Speaker 1: So this has been a week of improvements. Here at
Speaker 1: the inside of the Paint podcast. We've taken out a
Speaker 1: lot of trash. First off, there is the I want
Speaker 1: to hear I find. I finally muted the imassage on
Speaker 1: my laptop, so every time that I get a notification,
Speaker 1: you won't hear being really loud in your ear.
Speaker 2: Oh so that's all it took.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was. I'm ashamed to tell you
Speaker 1: how long.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. How to do that? Yeah that was.
Speaker 1: I'm sure his ears are happier now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't care enough to like bring it up,
Speaker 2: but I just assumed that it was something that was
Speaker 2: not fixable. But the fact it was just a simple notification,
Speaker 2: said he was pretty pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, because I use I could for the soundboard.
Speaker 1: I could just use that and put it right in
Speaker 1: a garage band where I push a button and that
Speaker 1: sound effect goes into the recording. But then you guys
Speaker 1: wouldn't hear it, and you guys kind of have to
Speaker 1: hear what's going on. So to do it, I play
Speaker 1: the sound effects out an external speaker. The downside is
Speaker 1: everything else that plays through the computers externally. You also hear.
Speaker 1: So when I go to an ESPN page and it
Speaker 1: auto plays a really loud highlight or an ad, everybody
Speaker 1: gets that magic.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: Overall though we fixed that. That's that's much better point
Speaker 1: for us.
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny the experience that I have listening
Speaker 2: to this podcast, and yes, I care enough to listen
Speaker 2: back to it when we you know, make sure that
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything they'll get me fired, anything that
Speaker 2: was too over the top. I'll re listen to the
Speaker 2: show we did, and in that timeframe, I always hear
Speaker 2: a notification going off and I'm like, wow, people actually
Speaker 2: care about me. So then I go look at my
Speaker 2: phone and I'm like, oh no, that cares about me
Speaker 2: a context. So yeah, thang, thanks to Ryan for that one.
Speaker 1: That is exactly what it is. And I have listened
Speaker 1: to it over and over again and not known if
Speaker 1: it's my phone or just the podcast. Whenever you hear
Speaker 1: in Kansas beat Iowa state by twenty five points and
Speaker 1: thirty times now out of the last thirty three, they
Speaker 1: have one that's all you hear in your ear over
Speaker 1: and over.
Speaker 2: Like like, yes, I wasn't that bad.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it. It was it was. It had its moment.
Speaker 1: So we fixed that. Uh, and we also fired Landon.
Speaker 1: That that happened over the week. Landon is no longer
Speaker 1: on inside the Paint. We finally decided, you know what,
Speaker 1: a ninety percent attendance rate for a show wherever you're
Speaker 1: not making any money, it's just.
Speaker 2: Not good enough. It's not you know.
Speaker 1: We had to sit down and unfortunately we had to
Speaker 1: deliver the hard news that, well, uh, you suck ass.
Speaker 1: It's okay. So your thoughts on this being just a
Speaker 1: two person show now.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you know it's a big honor this, Uh,
Speaker 2: the fact that it's a two person show. Now, this
Speaker 2: is the highlight of my career, my professional career, which
Speaker 2: should tell you a lot about how my professional career
Speaker 2: is going.
Speaker 1: Not great, bad, sad, loss, very sad.
Speaker 2: It's quite sad. But uh yeah, Landon actually died. We
Speaker 2: didn't fire him. He watched a Matt Nagy coach Chief's
Speaker 2: Offense yesterday, had a heart attack, and then simultaneously killed himself.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, that was that was so loud.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go in and fix that. Apparently
Speaker 1: the you click the bagpipe sound effect and it kind
Speaker 1: of it kind of hit you, like like like Oakland
Speaker 1: did when they came into Uh, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: seeing what you typed in the notes there Landon's actual
Speaker 1: cause of death. No, Landon will be back next week,
Speaker 1: he's he's he's just out for a week or so.
Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, we'll we'll get there. But in the meantime,
Speaker 1: you get this, the two of us to recap Oakland,
Speaker 1: Cam you're alma mater to not do you proud? They
Speaker 1: went into Alan Field House and they got curb stopped
Speaker 1: by the Jayhawks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. Uh, it's pretty much what we expected.
Speaker 2: Just introduce myself. I I am a man who has
Speaker 2: the heart of Barry Sanders and the legs of Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1: That is fantastic resident Lions fan who you've been holding
Speaker 1: on hope since Barry Sanders and now maybe have something
Speaker 1: to be excited about.
Speaker 2: So much hope and so much room to be very
Speaker 2: disappointed in early February. So we're we're bracing for that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, camp guys, I see no path possible to
Speaker 1: them losing on a horrendously controversial pass Inafferance call to
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's chiefs in the Super Bowl after blowing at
Speaker 1: ten point lead in the final ten minutes. I have
Speaker 1: the lot of idea, so funny. All right, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about Kansas beating Oakland and then the other
Speaker 1: games segment this week is pretty funny, not because there
Speaker 1: was a lot of interesting things, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stupid stuff we'll get to. And then in case
Speaker 1: that game wasn't exciting enough, they're gonna play an even
Speaker 1: less exciting game when you n. C. Wilmington comes in here,
Speaker 1: and the game will probably look about like the one
Speaker 1: we just watched, just with different jerseys.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, pretty much, big big games on the docket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by big games you mean but that's okay
Speaker 1: because you have to get through them. They can get
Speaker 1: to the big ones. All right, let's talk about it inside.
Speaker 1: Let's said, let's talk about inside the paint. This is
Speaker 1: inside the paint. I am missing land in fields.
Speaker 2: And I am not landed fields.
Speaker 1: Okay, So before we talk about Kansas camp, I want
Speaker 1: you and a I want you to explain one because
Speaker 1: the listeners probably want to know, and two because I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm having a hard time keeping track. You
Speaker 1: are in Detroit, set to move to Chicago. Are you
Speaker 1: what's the timeline on that? How is that going?
Speaker 2: By the way, So I shouldn't I shouldn't claim Detroit.
Speaker 2: I'm actually like two hours north of Detroit. I am
Speaker 2: in the most Caucasian town in the United States. It's
Speaker 2: called Midland. It's a very small town in mid Michigan.
Speaker 2: But I have a girlfriend down yeah, cue of music.
Speaker 2: I have a girlfriend down near Detroit, so I spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time down there. I'm actually moving to
Speaker 2: Chicago for a new job in the next week and
Speaker 2: a half, so getting ready to maybe become a part
Speaker 2: time Bears fan. I'm not sure if I have that
Speaker 2: self esteem, but we're gonna find out when I move.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's pretty much it. But now we're up
Speaker 2: here in the Mitten and moving permanently here within the
Speaker 2: next week. So crazy times.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were two hours away. Also jump
Speaker 1: from Detroit. Also jump you know that the video of
Speaker 1: the people rescuing the billy goat that was stuck in
Speaker 1: like the crack and he immediately wants free then jumps
Speaker 1: right back in. That would be you going from Lions
Speaker 1: vandam the Bears fandom, sir. That's just unbearable trade off,
Speaker 1: especially now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lions are the Lions are surging, and the
Speaker 2: Bears of Caleb Williams in a non functional offense. Caleb Williams,
Speaker 2: by the way, not to get off to a hot
Speaker 2: football start here. But I don't think Caleb Williams is
Speaker 2: necessarily the problem. That coaching staff is a dumpster fire,
Speaker 2: and oh I feel bad for anyone that goes to
Speaker 2: place quarterback there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bears try did the let's reboot the whole
Speaker 1: franchise and take a new quarterback and all that, but
Speaker 1: let's keep our coach. I'm sure that'll be fine, and
Speaker 1: it's going exactly the way that you thought. They just
Speaker 1: need to do a hard reboot on that thing. But
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams hasn't thrown a touchdown pass sense before Plate
Speaker 1: Knight and the Fog, so it's been a little while.
Speaker 1: But hey, you know what, you know who has thrown
Speaker 1: lots of I don't know, there's no touchdown passive best
Speaker 1: whatever ever? Number one Kansas seventy eight, Oakland fifty seven.
Speaker 1: You know, I usually like to write something interesting or humorous.
Speaker 2: Here, but there was nothing interesting.
Speaker 1: No, not Whenever they play a team like this every year.
Speaker 1: They have a handful of games where they win easily
Speaker 1: and there's not a lot of takeaway from it, even
Speaker 1: though we're gonna try for about twenty minutes. This feels
Speaker 1: like one of those games. They dominated the first half,
Speaker 1: they played about even after that, coasted to an easy
Speaker 1: win over the Grizzlies. Not the Golden Grizzlies, right, am,
Speaker 1: I They're just the Grizzlies.
Speaker 2: No, they are the Golden Grizzlies. You did missput that.
Speaker 2: You did miss miss state that they're the Golden Grizzlies.
Speaker 1: But also, like Oakland, you think California when you hear Oakland,
Speaker 1: and the golden term is kind of for California. So
Speaker 1: I assumed that that would not be associated with anything
Speaker 1: in hell has frozen over Michigan in this time of year. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, it's apparently all right. Gold Why are they gold?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they're about the furthest thing from
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors, except for when they play Kentucky
Speaker 2: in the first round of the NCAA Tournament. And that
Speaker 2: is just because to the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 1: That was just because of that one dude who made
Speaker 1: what ten was it like ten of Yeah, Golki, Yeah,
Speaker 1: legend they have to retire as Jersey just for that win.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah, one hundred percent. By the way,
Speaker 2: when I talked about David Koy's hairline, Golkies hairline committed
Speaker 2: like five felonies. Yeah. I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 2: The guy had a forehead where you could put an
Speaker 2: entire Continental USA map across it. You still have room.
Speaker 1: I do remember that. Yeah, And which makes sense because
Speaker 1: he is at least forty five years old and married
Speaker 1: with three teammates I've seen, like I watched him play.
Speaker 1: There's no way he's twenty twenty something. That's just not possible.
Speaker 1: They're like, absolutely not. Tyane grand Foster is about to
Speaker 1: be twenty five years old. I'm struggling to find anyone
Speaker 1: who's older. And we on this show, by law, are
Speaker 1: not allowed to make jokes about that because our favorite
Speaker 1: basketball team employees the services of thirty six year old
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson.
Speaker 2: Yeah hundred Dickinson has been around for quite a while,
Speaker 2: some say since the Clinton administration.
Speaker 1: Still has a decent hairline, though, so he at least
Speaker 1: could keep getting away with. Kansas's best player was Store,
Speaker 1: which is not a sentence I expected to type, but
Speaker 1: it was. He was efficient, productive in all aspects in
Speaker 1: this game. He scored sixteen points off the bench in
Speaker 1: nineteen minutes, made a couple of threes, two of three
Speaker 1: from three, was seven for nine from the floor. Highly
Speaker 1: effective player. Are we starting to kind of see a
Speaker 1: four ish games end of this season? Maybe you're starting
Speaker 1: to see one of the most important pieces for Kansas
Speaker 1: get a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think it'll I think we'll
Speaker 2: know a little bit more, not necessarily when they play
Speaker 2: UNC Wilmington or whoever, but after the Duke game. I
Speaker 2: think that'll be a little bit more telling. I think
Speaker 2: he's just getting comfortable, to be honest, I mean, he
Speaker 2: looks more like he's playing within the flow of the offense.
Speaker 2: And if you remember back before the season started, Bill
Speaker 2: self basically admitted that he confused him with how he
Speaker 2: wanted him to play. So I think it's just a
Speaker 2: time even right, getting used to the system. Yeah, shout
Speaker 2: out to Bill. But yeah, he looked awesome. I will
Speaker 2: say this game was so boring that in our group chat,
Speaker 2: I I'm the most non observant person that's ever lived
Speaker 2: and at one point during this game, I said, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this. Currently in the
Speaker 2: Kansas lineup they're Jersey numbers one, two, three, and five
Speaker 2: and the only person to ruin that stretch was kJ Adams.
Speaker 2: So that's how exciting this game was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's something that I always like. I feel
Speaker 1: like we never have that perfect I have noticed like
Speaker 1: times where it's been close, but as you said, I
Speaker 1: didn't realize it was that close because as despite how
Speaker 1: unobservant you are, and still notice that, I was even
Speaker 1: less observant because it can't put me to sleep. I
Speaker 1: think that I have the aj storrecomp and I'm curious
Speaker 1: if it's accurate. He's one of the most unique players
Speaker 1: that we've seen at Kansas. I think Kelly you Bray
Speaker 1: is the best name I can come up with. They're
Speaker 1: the same size, they both have similar slashing, slasher first
Speaker 1: kind of games. Neither one of them is that huge
Speaker 1: of a three point threat, but they're so much more
Speaker 1: effective whenever they can make one on occasion. And you know,
Speaker 1: in Ubery's case, he was a freshman that quickly got
Speaker 1: better and by around the Christmas time, Mark. He worked
Speaker 1: his way into the starting lineup and was an important piece.
Speaker 1: Store maybe on a similar trajectory. Is that the worst
Speaker 1: comp you've ever heard?
Speaker 2: No, definitely not. I think it's interesting. Actually, I think
Speaker 2: back to uber Becazubery actually had a really really good
Speaker 2: freshman season but was not a very forgettable team. Hopefully
Speaker 2: that's not the case for Aj Store. But no, I
Speaker 2: think you're right. I mean, both really good drivers of
Speaker 2: the ball. I think aj Storre has a higher ceiling
Speaker 2: for shooting the three than Kelly Ubery did as a freshman.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what his percentage looked like. I don't
Speaker 2: remember him hitting a high percentage. But honestly, out of
Speaker 2: all the crazy takes that I've heard you have, that's
Speaker 2: not bad.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys kicker just made a sixty four yard field
Speaker 1: goal and it cleared the net by like ten yards.
Speaker 1: Like do you remember when cackers used to suck like
Speaker 1: Caers couldn't make anything inside of fifty and now they're ridiculous.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a crazy life fact that I haven't
Speaker 2: shared on this podcast, and I'd have no reason to
Speaker 2: share it with on this podcast until now. I've had beverages.
Speaker 2: No I'm not a kick. I've had beverages, adult beverages
Speaker 2: with Cooper Rush's grandpa.
Speaker 1: Really. Okay, well, Cooper, he's he's playing right now. He's
Speaker 1: not a horrible backup through a horrible interception earlier. But
Speaker 1: you know he's hanging in there against the first place team.
Speaker 2: His grandpa's like eighty five and just slings old fashions
Speaker 2: like he's twenty four. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Have you met Cooper Rush before?
Speaker 2: No, I actually played college golf with his brother though.
Speaker 1: Oh and there's a there's a personal foul on the kick.
Speaker 1: So he made a sixty four yard kick and they
Speaker 1: took it off the board because the guy tried to
Speaker 1: leap that.
Speaker 2: What's it? What's the NFL record for length? Now, well, sir, you.
Speaker 1: As a Lions fan, should remember it because it happened
Speaker 1: against your team. It was a sixty six year oldfield
Speaker 1: right at the horn by Travis Kelsey's bitch, Justin Tucker.
Speaker 1: That happened a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Oh yep, now I remember it.
Speaker 1: That was you know, the Lions. I've had a lot
Speaker 1: of yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I'm on. So okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the scoring difference here for Kansas, because
Speaker 1: through four games, the Jayhawks are plus seventy on their opponents.
Speaker 1: In the first half, they just race out of the
Speaker 1: gates North Carolina. I use a sound effect and it's betting.
Speaker 1: They just roll right out of the shoot and then
Speaker 1: they take a lot off in the second half, as
Speaker 1: they were a outscored by one in this game, which
Speaker 1: brings their season total to minus eighteen in the second
Speaker 1: half of games. Do you think that's a troubling trend
Speaker 1: or are we just seeing a four games size sample whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of think it's a non worry right
Speaker 2: now because in at least two of these games they
Speaker 2: were blowout so you have you know, obviously walk ons
Speaker 2: coming in and I kind of feel like, second half,
Speaker 2: you're up by I don't know, fifteen points, right like
Speaker 2: you're gonna be trying different lineup combinations, just a little
Speaker 2: bit more blacks. I will say, if Ku gets out
Speaker 2: to who can start against Duke and then blows the
Speaker 2: second half lead, maybe, but for right now, I'm not
Speaker 2: too worried. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: No, I think you're completely right. I think that the
Speaker 1: two blowouts were and also that's the way that this
Speaker 1: works more often than in the bye games. You have
Speaker 1: these masterful first halfs where they raced this huge lead,
Speaker 1: and then the second half they may be outscoring these
Speaker 1: teams by ten or twelve until the walk Ons go
Speaker 1: in and then a bad stretch there and it looks
Speaker 1: like they played even the whole half.
Speaker 2: That's not uncommon.
Speaker 1: The North Carolina stretch is the one that's bothering people.
Speaker 1: Michigan State they I think Kansas played better in the
Speaker 1: second half than they did in the first half in
Speaker 1: that game. Uh but and against North Carolina you saw
Speaker 1: the tar Heels start hitting shots and that's what's got
Speaker 1: people troubled. So no, I don't think it's a I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a concern. But several people on Twitter
Speaker 1: were talking about, how you know that this team gets
Speaker 1: a lot more in the second half. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's It's not Kansas football. It's okay.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I didn't even think about that game.
Speaker 2: By the way, did you watch the Kansas BYU game?
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very late, which is that's music to
Speaker 1: my ears. Yep, the late night games. It was awesome
Speaker 1: and also like in a weird way, I almost was
Speaker 1: bitter watching the ending because it made you feel like
Speaker 1: what could have been?
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that team is so much better than the record, right,
Speaker 2: I mean that it has to be. This has to
Speaker 2: be the flukiest season of Kansas football of all time.
Speaker 1: Well, and in all likelihood, as fun as it would
Speaker 1: see them be to beat Colorado and then to go
Speaker 1: on the road at Baylor and win, it's probably less
Speaker 1: than fifty percent that you're winning both of those games,
Speaker 1: but for sure if they but I mean they obviously could,
Speaker 1: but assuming they don't, the thing that's going to just
Speaker 1: make people so sad is they were right there with
Speaker 1: UNLV in a winnable game and lost that. If you
Speaker 1: win the UNLV game, you're five and five right now,
Speaker 1: and you're almost definitely getting a bowl game because you're
Speaker 1: probably not getting swept in these last two games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean at West Virginia too. I was at
Speaker 2: my dad's house watching the West Virginia game with him,
Speaker 2: and he didn't know that I allegedly put maybe some
Speaker 2: money on Kansas money and went live Sherlock and that lost.
Speaker 2: And he was like, why are you so upset? Don't
Speaker 2: worry about it. I just care about the steep well.
Speaker 1: And then k State. They outplayed him out there and
Speaker 1: looked like they were in position to go kick the
Speaker 1: winning field goal and fumbled. I mean, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think what were the other ones too?
Speaker 2: There was another one Illinois was a brutal illinoy. Is
Speaker 2: that good either?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, they outplayed Illinois well and just had nothing
Speaker 1: to show for it. They've had five times this year
Speaker 1: where they've led in the fourth quarter and lost lost
Speaker 1: it Like they're eight and one if you count games
Speaker 1: over after fifty minutes. I mean, it truly is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm happy for him to see him beat BYU.
Speaker 1: I think you can argue it's the biggest win in
Speaker 1: the program since Mangino, beating a top six team on
Speaker 1: the road and uncompletely even though we knew that the
Speaker 1: BYU wasn't as good as their record indicated. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was great and we'll see. You know,
Speaker 1: they have a lot of juice behind them going in
Speaker 1: the senior day. Devin Neil's Senior Day probably the last
Speaker 1: Jalen Daniels game at Arrowhead against the Colorado team that
Speaker 1: feels like they have a I don't know what's Colorado
Speaker 1: like three better than Kansas. That's that's not really accurate
Speaker 1: of the gap between those teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Colorado still has an outside shot, I would assume
Speaker 2: at the College Football Playoff. Correct me if I'm wrong there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I mean I don't think the talent
Speaker 2: gap is that much difference different between the two teams,
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny how Colorado has the best two
Speaker 1: players in the Big twelve and everybody kind of talks
Speaker 1: about them like they're all right, like the six best tame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, their head coach also has like five toes, so
Speaker 2: it doesn't really.
Speaker 1: Matter there, go out, man, their head coach is going
Speaker 1: to do some very interesting things, as if he hasn't already.
Speaker 1: All right, tell me about Like I just kind of
Speaker 1: grouped all these these wings into the same paragraph. I
Speaker 1: feel like we've already done that a couple of times
Speaker 1: this year, but like they're just really I don't think
Speaker 1: is a whole lot with any of them.
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think this? And I kind
Speaker 2: of made this point during the game in the group chat.
Speaker 2: This team, to me feels like we're gonna have multiple
Speaker 2: guys averaging between ten to thirteen points and it might
Speaker 2: be one of the more balanced teams in terms of scoring.
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? Take?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. I mean I think kJ, Zeke, AJ
Speaker 1: and Dewa and are all going to be in that
Speaker 1: kind of ten to thirteen range right out of the gate.
Speaker 1: And you have a couple of other options off the
Speaker 1: bench as well. All of these guys that you're about
Speaker 1: to read about have somewhat interchangeable stats. Through four games
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 2: This year, for sure, we saw Ryland Griffin make three
Speaker 2: first half threes he only missed one, finishing with eleven
Speaker 2: points and three assists in twenty minutes. Zeke Mayo had
Speaker 2: seven points and five rebounds in twenty six minutes. David Koit,
Speaker 2: whose hairline is back in the nineteen sixties, made three
Speaker 2: and nineteen minutes. Dewana Harris did not score, but was
Speaker 2: otherwise busy doing Dewan Harris things such as two points,
Speaker 2: six assists, four steals and a head band in twenty
Speaker 2: three minutes. Anything else to analyze here?
Speaker 1: Ryland Griffin is awesome. He ran like a Grady Dick
Speaker 1: sort of play where he was like falling out of
Speaker 1: balance on that catch and shoot right at the half
Speaker 1: just a terrific player. And I posted a gift of
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's smiling real big saying this Saturady Dewan Harris,
Speaker 1: with all these shooters to finally pass it to there
Speaker 1: were Dwan. Harris's assist numbers last year are so misleading
Speaker 1: because he should have had three more per game considering
Speaker 1: how many such he threw to people who just bricked
Speaker 1: threes This year, not so much. Griffin's the best shooter
Speaker 1: that they've had since Grady Dick. I said, originally since
Speaker 1: Fee and I one, I forgot about Grady Dick when
Speaker 1: I tweeted that two Grady Dick shot thirty two percent
Speaker 1: in Big twelve play. He was much better in the
Speaker 1: first half of the year than the second, which is
Speaker 1: I think plague due to an experience and Ryland Griffin
Speaker 1: is an upperclassman that I expect to shoot a lot
Speaker 1: better in Big twelve play than Grady Dick did. So
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I think Griffin's a monster. I love how
Speaker 1: we were kind of skeptical about wood Bill cell start
Speaker 1: him considering his best trait is shooting threes, and we
Speaker 1: didn't know how things like the defense would work out,
Speaker 1: and self has stuck with him and has started him
Speaker 1: regardless absolutely as the right move. He's one of the
Speaker 1: best shooters in the in the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also think the cool thing about Ryland
Speaker 2: Griffin is he can do more than shoot. He's actually
Speaker 2: pretty pretty good at driving to the lane. He's really
Speaker 2: good in transition as well. He's really he has a
Speaker 2: lot of length as well, so he's more than just
Speaker 2: a spot up shooter. He might be the best pro
Speaker 2: prospect on this team.
Speaker 1: I think he is the best prospect on this team.
Speaker 1: I don't I think. I mean, I think it's him
Speaker 1: and Floria Badonga. I think those are the two best ones.
Speaker 1: And as of right now, Griffin is the most likely
Speaker 1: I think of all of them to play in the pros. Yeah, koit,
Speaker 1: I don't really know what the role is gonna be there.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get minutes, and I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna play if he's effective, and if he's not, then
Speaker 1: so be it. Zeke Mayo continues to do things second
Speaker 1: game in a row. The shot wasn't falling. He had
Speaker 1: some good looks. They really weren't that close in the
Speaker 1: Michigan State game. A lot of them these a lot
Speaker 1: of them went in and out, but still is able
Speaker 1: to contribute with with other things in the on the
Speaker 1: stat report. I love how he and the One play together.
Speaker 1: They able to have the Frank Mason Devonte Graham kind
Speaker 1: of two point guardish offense that we saw him around
Speaker 1: that year. And Zeke is, for my money, the smartest
Speaker 1: player right there with the one Harris on this team.
Speaker 1: That helps. Just having a guy with vision like that,
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of my assessment of those guys. I
Speaker 1: think that Bill self's gonna have his hands full with
Speaker 1: mouths to feed, and it'll be up to him to
Speaker 1: figure out who exactly to play and how much. But
Speaker 1: I think they're all going to get a comfortable amount
Speaker 1: of minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Agree. I also think David quite going back to
Speaker 2: his role. I think he's just gonna be more of
Speaker 2: a spark plug and there will be games where he's
Speaker 2: going to be very helpful. But again, I mean, this
Speaker 2: team is so deep, it's not a real pressing issue.
Speaker 1: Well, there's four games. We've only seen four games, but
Speaker 1: we know that Dewan, Zeke, rylan kJ and Hunter are
Speaker 1: gonna play a lot of minutes. They are at the
Speaker 1: front of the rotation. The next tier. You have David Quoit.
Speaker 1: I'll save him, I'll come back to him. You have
Speaker 1: Floria Badonga who's going to get regular minutes as the
Speaker 1: backup five. You have aj Store who appears to get
Speaker 1: plenty of minutes. That's seven guys. Then it gets a
Speaker 1: little bit interesting after that, Quit I think, is going
Speaker 1: to play. But you have Shaq Moore, who we saw
Speaker 1: for the first time, and people kind of forget that
Speaker 1: Shack Moore isn't just this like transfer that didn't play much.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a starter on a Power five
Speaker 1: team last year in the SEC like he's a senior.
Speaker 1: He compliments Towan Harris real well, I think those guys
Speaker 1: are kind of vying for that eight and nine spot.
Speaker 1: And then after that you have Zach Clemens and Ricky's
Speaker 1: passmore at the at the ten and eleven guys, and
Speaker 1: you're just not going to see those guys very much.
Speaker 1: Is that an accurate assessment of their of their rotation
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's pretty spot on. I'd also like
Speaker 2: to point out the fact that on the last show
Speaker 2: I claimed that Zach Clemens would score five plus points
Speaker 2: in this game, and I encourage people I believed about
Speaker 2: on that or I said that I might, and I
Speaker 2: don't believe that he sniffed a point.
Speaker 1: Survey says correct, Yeah he had no points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Yeah, I don't think the two three pointer
Speaker 2: bets gonna hit either.
Speaker 1: For the same you'd be surprised. He's gonna make at
Speaker 1: least one. It's gonna be out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be on like Senior night. Though.
Speaker 1: These these are big.
Speaker 2: She probably won't.
Speaker 1: This game is big coming up with the yeah, whoever
Speaker 1: the hell they're playing with the Seahawks or yeah, the
Speaker 1: Wilmington Seahawks. That and Furman this month. Those are big
Speaker 1: ones for your Zach Clemens and walk On that get
Speaker 1: you gotta get a couple in these next couple of games,
Speaker 1: because walk Ons did score in this game, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't Zach Clemens, who kind of doesn't count, okay the
Speaker 1: three pointers. Kansas has made more threes than their opponents
Speaker 1: in all four games this year. Two of them are
Speaker 1: by games, and two of them North Carolina counts, but
Speaker 1: they didn't shoot it real well in that game either.
Speaker 1: Michigan State Nobody could shoot in that game, so they
Speaker 1: haven't had the eleven for twenty three game yet where
Speaker 1: they have just burned someone from behind the arc. But
Speaker 1: eight for twenty in this game is good. Remember in
Speaker 1: their final twenty one games last year, they only made
Speaker 1: more threes in their opponent one time. Are you convinced
Speaker 1: that the three point shooting is I don't really care.
Speaker 1: If it's a strength, it just can't be a liability,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely not gonna be a liability. I think
Speaker 2: they'll be at the minimum functional. They're going to have
Speaker 2: multiple games during Big twelve play just over the course
Speaker 2: of the season where they don't shoot it well, but
Speaker 2: they have so many other ways they can win games.
Speaker 2: And the team is so deep that if you have
Speaker 2: one or two guys that aren't making shots, you can
Speaker 2: sub someone else in and get some shots up and
Speaker 2: hopefully see some fall. I really don't think it's going
Speaker 2: to be an issue this season. Cue the music when
Speaker 2: they play in the Elite eight. Sure that will never
Speaker 2: burn me, But no, I actually really don't think it'll
Speaker 2: be an issue.
Speaker 1: Well, whenever you have Ryland Griffin and Zite Mayo, who
Speaker 1: are both career near forty percent shooters, that should give
Speaker 1: you a very high floor. And I know we said
Speaker 1: that about Timberlake last year, but last year they didn't
Speaker 1: have anybody besides timber Lake except for mccullor, who we
Speaker 1: kind of knew that would cool down, and then Timberlake,
Speaker 1: I think for who wasn't good Nick Timberlake didn't have
Speaker 1: a good season at Kansas, but he also had a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure to be the only one that could
Speaker 1: make threes on that team, and he just didn't do it.
Speaker 1: This year, there's a lot more people that can spread
Speaker 1: the ball around. There also is this guy who you
Speaker 1: know is not going to make any threes. Tell me
Speaker 1: about kJ Adams, because there's a few different ways we
Speaker 1: could take this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. kJ Adams, who I'd like to point out I
Speaker 2: actually do appreciate as a human being before my Twitter
Speaker 2: mentions get flooded by hateful comments, had twelve points, three rebounds,
Speaker 2: three assists in twenty four minutes. The game plan was
Speaker 2: clearly to get him involved, and they did. Bill self
Speaker 2: said he was a valuable, as valuable as any player
Speaker 2: they have ever had. His nose actually grew twelve inches
Speaker 2: when he said that. They're clearly trying to make this
Speaker 2: a thing. Are you sold.
Speaker 1: I mean Bill Self was talking about kJ Adams the
Speaker 1: way he talks about a player when he's aware that
Speaker 1: people are saying things on Twitter and questioning the role,
Speaker 1: and like, look, Kj's a great player. He's a very
Speaker 1: good basketball player. It's not that that we've questioned. It's
Speaker 1: the fact that we're concerned about the role and we're
Speaker 1: allowed to question that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have never said that we know more than
Speaker 2: Bill self because I would be the worst Power five
Speaker 2: basketball coach in history. I'd be worse than mister Neptune
Speaker 2: over at Villanova.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I would be be that the second worst maybe,
Speaker 1: but give yourself a little more credit than that.
Speaker 2: That's just right. I'd be worse in Roddy Terry. It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But you can have an opinion and say it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean we think that Bill Self sucks, although
Speaker 2: we do have a drop on the show for that oh.
Speaker 1: One exactly like that Will sucks.
Speaker 2: I missed that one. But no, kJ Adams is a
Speaker 2: really good player. But the role on this team is
Speaker 2: is it is kind of mind boggling at times.
Speaker 1: Well, and it's not just that. The thing that bugs
Speaker 1: me the most is when people act like it's an
Speaker 1: inevitability that Bill Self will get the best out of
Speaker 1: this team. Certainly he has the best chance of anybody involved.
Speaker 1: We think he's the best coach in the sport, at
Speaker 1: minimum one of the best. So you could do a
Speaker 1: lot worse than gambling on Bill Self figuring things out.
Speaker 1: But they make it sound like just because Bill Self
Speaker 1: says he's starting, that automatically means it's the correct answer.
Speaker 1: Bill Self has been wrong about stuff like this before.
Speaker 2: Bill self also claimed that Zach Clements was Wilt Chamberlain
Speaker 2: over the summer, so.
Speaker 1: Exactly, he said that Tyan Grant Foster was the best
Speaker 1: transfer he had ever gotten at that point in time.
Speaker 1: He misses things.
Speaker 2: Bobby Pettiford, that's right.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that he was for the one game
Speaker 1: speaking of Zach Clements and the misshot Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: Bobby Pettiford's Thanksgiving moment. But look, yep, with Bill Self,
Speaker 1: he's clearly giving kJ all the encouragement that he can.
Speaker 1: And my opinion, I might be wrong on this. I've
Speaker 1: had a lot more wrong opinions than Bill self. My
Speaker 1: opinion is that Bill self knows that kJ Adams in
Speaker 1: the starting lineup is not Kansas's best starting lineup. I
Speaker 1: think eventually you will see a change get made. I
Speaker 1: think eventually you will see aj Store start at the
Speaker 1: four just because I think Bill knows that a lot
Speaker 1: of people on Twitter think it. There's a good chance
Speaker 1: Bill self has thought about it and kJ. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's the stat through four games. kJ is one minute
Speaker 1: shy of leading the team total time played, and he
Speaker 1: has just twelve rebounds in those four games. That is
Speaker 1: two more than David Koit and is fourth on the
Speaker 1: team the starting Yeah, the starting four man cannot be
Speaker 1: fourth and rebounds by a huge amount too. It's like
Speaker 1: Hunter zeke uh and then floor and then a huge
Speaker 1: gap before there's just a logjam of guys. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You can love what kJ does. Obviously Self is his
Speaker 1: biggest fan. That doesn't necessarily mean he's just gonna give
Speaker 1: him the starting role for the entire season. If aj
Speaker 1: Store continues to play like this, you cannot take aj
Speaker 1: Store and you cannot not start him. If he continues
Speaker 1: to go up like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely agree. And I also think that aj Store
Speaker 2: will have more performances like this, especially as he gets
Speaker 2: more comfortable, maybe into the early big twelve slate. But yeah,
Speaker 2: Bill Sophy, he's a Hall of Famer, He's won two titles.
Speaker 2: He knows what he's doing. I you have to think
Speaker 2: he knows that Aj Store provides more of an option
Speaker 2: for him, especially on this roster. I mean this team.
Speaker 2: He constructed this roster. I mean he went in the portal,
Speaker 2: he got Aj Storer, he got Ryland Griffin. I mean
Speaker 2: he did this himself. He knew what he was doing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I fully expect that Aj Storre is gonna
Speaker 2: have more of a role going forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like Store is a pivotal piece to this team,
Speaker 1: I think Store is better for Hunter Dickinson, who Bill
Speaker 1: self has played this team around. Like, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: eventually you're gonna see it because your fore man doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be a great rebounder. He doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be a great shooter, he doesn't have to be a
Speaker 1: great creator, or he doesn't have to be a great defender,
Speaker 1: all these things, but he can't be a liability. And
Speaker 1: as of right now, he is a total liability in
Speaker 1: a lot of these ways where you really need him
Speaker 1: to be better. And that's where I think you're Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see that too much get made eventually,
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I mean that being said, if if Bill pulls a
Speaker 2: tom Izzo and puts aj Store on the bench and
Speaker 2: round of third two loss to Syracuse, you will never
Speaker 2: hear me again on this podcast because I will be
Speaker 2: in a straight jacket walked away in guanzanam obey for
Speaker 2: making terroristic threats. So just it can't happen.
Speaker 1: No, and hopefully it won't, but we'll see, well, we'll
Speaker 1: see at some point. I do not think that self,
Speaker 1: who is very loyal to his seniors. He is, to
Speaker 1: his credit, that's why guys love playing for him. But
Speaker 1: Bill self is not going to legitimately at least I
Speaker 1: don't think he will when a change if it becomes,
Speaker 1: and it's not yet, I it's not glaring yet. But
Speaker 1: if aj Store continues to play well and kJ Adams
Speaker 1: continues to not rebound, I don't think Bill self is
Speaker 1: just gonna watch as a glaring change that is kind
Speaker 1: of obvious that needs to be made won't happen. I
Speaker 1: think you'll see that switch.
Speaker 2: Agree, Hey, Ryan, can I give you a random game
Speaker 2: update from college basketball? Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh boy? I love this. I love these.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is this is high quality podcasting, folks.
Speaker 2: So UMKC the ruse, they won a game.
Speaker 1: Sir, hold on on, whoa, whoa, whoa. If you scroll
Speaker 1: down to other games, I actually have, Oh you did.
Speaker 1: The very last thing in other games is a U
Speaker 1: And the tab that I have minimize right now is
Speaker 1: the box score of what umk C did tonight. Yes,
Speaker 1: we are absolutely gonna talk about what UMKC did and
Speaker 1: the powerhouse they played.
Speaker 2: Okay, never mind, I didn't research that. I got a
Speaker 2: text that came across the screen here from my body
Speaker 2: and I clicked on it and was like, that can't
Speaker 2: be real. So we'll say.
Speaker 1: That, Oh it's real. We'll talk all about it. Here's
Speaker 1: a hint. The team that UMKC played tonight scored fewer
Speaker 1: points than either of us are years old.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, for the team that UMKC might have played,
Speaker 2: Zach Clements in this game was completely useless and shot
Speaker 2: over two, including one of the most unathletic attempts at
Speaker 2: a put back that I have ever seen, and I've
Speaker 2: spent a lot of times in time in YMCA jims.
Speaker 1: I am really not trying to just dunk on Zach Clemens,
Speaker 1: because I am I could not do it if.
Speaker 2: You asked me to, no, I couldn't. I couldn't either.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing with Zach Clemens. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I think he might be the worst scholarship player I've
Speaker 1: seen play at Kansas, really, I and that's he's he's
Speaker 1: played for a couple of years like this is this
Speaker 1: is an experienced Zach Clements.
Speaker 2: Do you remember Matt Kleiman?
Speaker 1: I do, I do? The Red Rocket, the Red Rocket,
Speaker 1: the real Red Rocket.
Speaker 2: He was a lot better than Zach Lemons.
Speaker 1: He was a walk Yes, they've had walk Ons that
Speaker 1: are better than Zach Clemens. Clay Young was better, I
Speaker 1: must say. Eli Manning, Evan Manning was better. Speaking. Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to do a random take, here's mine. Eli
Speaker 1: Manning sucked.
Speaker 2: He kind of did. Actually, you know what, Ryan, that's
Speaker 2: not a crazy take. He had one season, I believe
Speaker 2: he had one season where he was elite.
Speaker 1: Yes, and he did, to his credit, beat Tom Brady
Speaker 1: twice with preposterously entertaining drives to win Super Bowls. But
Speaker 1: and sucks.
Speaker 2: Isn't fair.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he should be in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. That's that's my.
Speaker 2: One of his leading wide receivers also shot himself in
Speaker 2: the leg.
Speaker 1: So yes, and and I was one of the many
Speaker 1: people that made my fantasy football team. Pleccidentally shot myself
Speaker 1: whenever I was like ten years old. I thought it
Speaker 1: was so didn't understand what exactly happened, like what was
Speaker 1: probably going to happen if he didn't shoot himself, he
Speaker 1: was probably going to shoot somebody else, Which.
Speaker 2: That's an amazing thing for it that is so ridiculous. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Whenever sports are when sports are your first love
Speaker 1: as a kid, and the age of the Internet is
Speaker 1: becoming a thing, oh boy, you find out things that's awesome.
Speaker 1: You find out way more of your childhood heroes have
Speaker 1: a controversies and incidents segment on their Wikipedia page, and
Speaker 1: it just really changes everything. It's just a big deal.
Speaker 2: My favorite players to Shan Watson.
Speaker 1: Very very very steep airhorn out of that. Hunter Dickinson
Speaker 1: had ten points, nine rebounds, four blocks, and played twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes as expected, a little bit lesser of a
Speaker 1: stat line because they didn't need to use him as much.
Speaker 1: He was five for ten from the floor. Flori, but
Speaker 1: doing guys, he will do to these lesser opponents, just
Speaker 1: overwhelmed them in his limited time nine to four and
Speaker 1: fourteen minutes. As expected, the Kansas BIG's were just unmerciful
Speaker 1: to a helpless Oakland front court. Even Zach Clemens scored
Speaker 1: just kidding, we talked about that. Nope, he didn't. He
Speaker 1: went over too. Yeah, he couldn't even score against against Oakland.
Speaker 1: Not good, not great. And as you said, there were attempts.
Speaker 1: Attempts were made. They weren't good.
Speaker 2: There were there were. In other news, Shaq Moore made
Speaker 2: his season debut and had a bucket and an assist
Speaker 2: in five minutes, which was his limit per Bill self.
Speaker 2: Rickie's passmore had four points and nine minutes. Enjoy him
Speaker 2: in these last couple of games before he is exiled
Speaker 2: to Siberia, which may be where Landing is. The walk
Speaker 2: Ons got two points on the Trust and Cross bucket,
Speaker 2: bringing the total to five this year. Sidebar here Justin Cross.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's actually a decent basketball player, just
Speaker 2: from what I saw him late night in the fog.
Speaker 2: And yeah, the nice smooth jumper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin Cross and Dylan will Hyde are the two
Speaker 1: that you want if you really have to pick a
Speaker 1: fighter in this battle. But yeah, justin cross and the
Speaker 1: name Noah Shelby is a thing. Is he redshirting?
Speaker 2: Because he was like a legit Shelby.
Speaker 1: He was like a legit player that is a walk
Speaker 1: Is he walking on here? According to Yeah, hey, he
Speaker 1: played at Rice, which I mean Rice is not gonna
Speaker 1: get mixed up with Duke. But whenever you play in
Speaker 1: every game for Rice, an average about five points a game.
Speaker 1: Like that's better than the walk Ons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I Noah Shelby sounds like a guy that gets
Speaker 2: invited to a West Virginian family reunion. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's a high quality basketball player, but I will say
Speaker 2: I did play Rice in the college football earlier. I
Speaker 2: won forty nine to seven in an online versus game,
Speaker 2: so I'm not convinced this real school.
Speaker 1: Very nice And also I assume that means that your
Speaker 1: record is now better than the average tom Izzo season.
Speaker 2: It's it's right on pace.
Speaker 1: According to Twitter, Noah Shelby is hurt. That's why he
Speaker 1: hasn't been playing. He is indeed a walk on, which
Speaker 1: is which is quite interesting. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah he would didn't either.
Speaker 1: That's that now we know if you look up Noah
Speaker 1: Shelby kub ball on on Twitter, you will find out
Speaker 1: that nobody has tweeted those three words together is June fifth,
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of x accounts out there are
Speaker 1: not a single one of them.
Speaker 2: It's such a rabid fan based where people are actually
Speaker 2: tweeting at any point time about Noah Shelby.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, well the internet. You know how the
Speaker 1: Internet works, and you know how people have a whole
Speaker 1: lot of nothing to do sometimes just like yes, because
Speaker 1: we watch this game, Kansas fifty seven percent from the four,
Speaker 1: forty percent from three, and then you had fifty four
Speaker 1: percent free throw mark, which isn't great, but there were
Speaker 1: it was only like like six for eleven or something
Speaker 1: like that, and only eight turnovers overall. It was fine,
Speaker 1: like like they played well and.
Speaker 2: And yeah, pretty nondescript good game.
Speaker 1: And can we normally we stopped the recording to pause
Speaker 1: for our halftime update after this, but let's keep it
Speaker 1: going for a part two of Kansas recap because there's
Speaker 1: a little bit more that's that's come out. I realize
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about it. We don't have to say
Speaker 1: much about it, but it is worth noting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, play cash register. Oh woof play cash register? Cha
Speaker 2: ching dot Jeff sound Bill self with his elite I
Speaker 2: can't believe you have a drop for that. I didn't
Speaker 2: know you had a drop for that.
Speaker 1: I was just being I have everything. Wow, you know,
Speaker 1: you know everything about ITV and you've never heard the drop.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the that's the John Kellow drop.
Speaker 2: It is, But I guess I hadn't heard it in
Speaker 2: so long. I just was being sarcastic because Bill self
Speaker 2: was buddies with TJ gasnolet. But speaking of which, Bill
Speaker 2: self cannot stop scoring elite recruits. Darren Peterson ranked number three,
Speaker 2: Bryson Tiller not the rapper, number twenty and twenty year
Speaker 2: old dual sport athlete Ms Calderon. I think are all signed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill self has had that. You know, I was
Speaker 1: kind of thinking the other day he's kind of in
Speaker 1: the golden years of coaching. We saw he's around the
Speaker 1: age that Roy Williams was when he started winning titles.
Speaker 1: He's around the age that coach k was when he
Speaker 1: won three in like a ten year SPURTU And you
Speaker 1: saw Jay Wright whenever he entered his sixties. That was
Speaker 1: whenever he won his two and four years. Like overall,
Speaker 1: it's he's at the point now where he's patient, he's
Speaker 1: experienced ever, he's he's undoubtedly a Hall of Famer, and
Speaker 1: now it's just like just doing this for fun, no pressure.
Speaker 1: He's got his second ring. He's the winningest coach in
Speaker 1: the history of the school. Scam is adding tom Izzo
Speaker 1: is seven hundred and forty five years old and is
Speaker 1: not in a golden year because he's in his just
Speaker 1: not good years. We'll talk about tom Izzo, by the way,
Speaker 1: who is going the That is interesting. He's the He's
Speaker 1: the anti to this point really is about how all
Speaker 1: the coaches get better with age. Yeah, Bill self is
Speaker 1: just on fun. I think a lot of coaches flat
Speaker 1: out hate the Portal. We hear him all complain about it.
Speaker 1: I think Bill self likes it. He said he was
Speaker 1: on a ten the other day and he's like, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? I hate whenever I have to go
Speaker 1: recruit for a kid that's four years away from graduating,
Speaker 1: But Portal I can go out and get a kid
Speaker 1: that's immediately within the next week looking to go somewhere.
Speaker 1: I love that he has like he has embraced this
Speaker 1: new era of college basketball, and I think titles will follow.
Speaker 2: I completely agree. And actually, for all of the crazy
Speaker 2: takes you've had over the years on the show, one
Speaker 2: that sticks out to me that I think is correct
Speaker 2: is you talked about and this is probably several seasons back,
Speaker 2: but you mentioned, you know, Bill Solf has been on
Speaker 2: the wrong end of some luck in the NCAA tournament
Speaker 2: from shifting back to the VCU loss Northern Iowa Oregon
Speaker 2: Elite eight. At some point the pendulum is gonna swing
Speaker 2: towards good fortune. On top of the fact that he
Speaker 2: is getting these recruits, he's adapting to the nil era.
Speaker 2: He's not lazy like a Tom Izzo who doesn't want
Speaker 2: to go into the portal. Yeah. I think he's entering
Speaker 2: the prime of his career, which is pretty amazing seeing
Speaker 2: he's what.
Speaker 1: Sixty yeah, sixty two or something like that.
Speaker 2: I sixty two, yeah, yeah, and his hair is still
Speaker 2: forty five.
Speaker 1: Well, his hair is fake. I I I'm definitely that
Speaker 1: was a big Yeah. Allegedly it's true on that one
Speaker 1: because there was a scratch wherever you were either team
Speaker 1: to pay or team not.
Speaker 2: I am it's a rug. It's one hundred percent fake.
Speaker 1: It looks good, it's a good look at it, as
Speaker 1: you'd expect when you have money like him, but it's
Speaker 1: it's definitely a rug. I would I would if I
Speaker 1: was in Bill Self's position, I would have a rug too.
Speaker 2: And I think I think one of the biggest assets
Speaker 2: to Bill's self and it's something that I, along with
Speaker 2: many fans, criticized him over along. You know, early in
Speaker 2: his career was he was not willing to adapt. He
Speaker 2: was super stubborn Bill Self. You stubborn?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I got that one. That's an easy one.
Speaker 1: That's that's right at the top of the Board's.
Speaker 2: Bill Self's stubborn ass. Yeah, and he's actually been willing
Speaker 2: to adapt. I mean, the nil era is a lot
Speaker 2: different than prior times in college basketball. Tom Izzo, on
Speaker 2: the other hand, does not want to get people from
Speaker 2: the portal because he believes they need before your players.
Speaker 2: And it has not translated to a title since two thousand.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the thing with Bill Self, you know, I
Speaker 1: always did feel like that the luck would turn itself around,
Speaker 1: and it's not guaranteed, but the statistics show over the
Speaker 1: course of time if you keep getting ones and twos
Speaker 1: in the NCAA tournament, you're eventually going to win titles.
Speaker 1: And we saw a little bit of that luck flip
Speaker 1: back around in twenty twenty two when he got to
Speaker 1: play an eight seed in the title. Remember we always
Speaker 1: were like, he always gets the juggernauts and doesn't get
Speaker 1: a lot of scheduling breaks. He's played a one to
Speaker 1: one and a two in his three final fours before that,
Speaker 1: and then he gets to go out there and plays
Speaker 1: against the eight seed. You get a little bit of
Speaker 1: a break a team that probably shouldn't have been there,
Speaker 1: and they want it, like, maybe you see that happen
Speaker 1: again going forth Bill's self. I think as long as
Speaker 1: he continues to recruit at the top of his game,
Speaker 1: which he is, I think he's actually better as a
Speaker 1: recruiter now than he's ever been because of the portal. Yes,
Speaker 1: wins will follow, and I think his career was really
Speaker 1: out of crossroads a year and a half ago. Whenever
Speaker 1: he unexpectedly had to bow out of coaching. Probably cost
Speaker 1: that team a couple more wins that year without their coach,
Speaker 1: And we didn't know at that point he had had
Speaker 1: a serious heart condition. It could have Nobody here would
Speaker 1: have been necessarily stunned if he had said, I'm the
Speaker 1: doctors told me with the way I coach my style,
Speaker 1: it's just not good for me, I'm gonna walk away,
Speaker 1: and nobody would have criticized that. Instead, you see a healthier, looking,
Speaker 1: different demeanor Bill self that clearly said no, I do
Speaker 1: want to coach longer than I originally thought. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make the changes to do what I need to do.
Speaker 1: You reference the changes with his style, and I'm referencing
Speaker 1: the changes with his health. You're seeing the combine those
Speaker 1: things combined to just make a I think it's him
Speaker 1: and Bobby Hurley, or it's him and Dan Hurley considered
Speaker 1: the best two sport coaches in the sport by a
Speaker 1: decent clip.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. He's also spending a lot less time at
Speaker 2: the Salty Iguana. Yeah, you have seen his stature.
Speaker 1: So oh and now also because the salty iguanas are
Speaker 1: closing everywhere, sir, the one in Johnson County.
Speaker 2: They really knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is really sad. I'm this It's still going
Speaker 1: on at Lawrence because brilliant handy he goes and does
Speaker 1: hot talk every single week, which boy is the equivalent
Speaker 1: of listening to for an hour straight. At least he
Speaker 1: doesn't read his poems. As for the actual players that
Speaker 1: Self has signed here, Peterson is the best high school
Speaker 1: player they have signed since Josh Jackson. It will likely
Speaker 1: be in the Jackson and Wiggins trio for the best
Speaker 1: three high school scorers. Self has had do it all
Speaker 1: kind of combo guard. He's a top five recruit, bluest
Speaker 1: of the blue chips that you can get in this class.
Speaker 1: He is going to be a lottery pick it all
Speaker 1: likelihood after his one season at Kansas, he will be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I predict right now for we're
Speaker 1: going to get this out on the very first time
Speaker 1: we talk about Darren Peterson. He breaks Andrew Wiggins freshman
Speaker 1: scoring record. He's going to score lot It's what he
Speaker 1: does naturally. Bryson Tiller is a guy who was in
Speaker 1: the top ten and is now a Friend's top twenty prospect,
Speaker 1: but still a power forward, a six to nine guys.
Speaker 1: They're obviously going to lose kJ and Hunter after this season,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to restock your bigs. Tiller is
Speaker 1: exactly who you want a long athletic, a hybrid four
Speaker 1: man who can shoot a little bit but is also
Speaker 1: a bruising physical force of the basket. And then Calderon,
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about you mentioned he's twenty.
Speaker 1: They asked Bill self about that. Could you use his experiences? Like,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna matter because the guys don't stay long
Speaker 1: enough to really take advantage of that now. And he
Speaker 1: wants to play football here too, as Camus pointy out,
Speaker 1: hopefully doesn't get CTE from dealing with Lance Leipold in
Speaker 1: practice every day. But you gotta figure a guy that's
Speaker 1: playing football. I would assume he's a bruising enough body
Speaker 1: to be able to help with the physicality that Bill
Speaker 1: self demands from some of his rotations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exciting times for Kansas. Get to see Bill self
Speaker 2: getting high rank for players. I'm very curious to see
Speaker 2: how the dual sport athlete aspect will work out for
Speaker 2: Calderon and if he'll continue to do that past his
Speaker 2: freshman year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it never really the guys really don't stick with that,
Speaker 1: Like it's.
Speaker 2: Something I feel like that never pans out.
Speaker 1: No, a lot of people try it and and then
Speaker 1: they they come to the camp or they come to
Speaker 1: school and they realize, Oh, it's just not as straightforward
Speaker 1: you mentioned. I don't know how they do one sport
Speaker 1: and keep up with it.
Speaker 2: College athletics are so strenuous even if you're playing one sport.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're traveling all the time, you're it's insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. They do an amazing job and excited
Speaker 1: to see this next group. They already have a top
Speaker 1: three recruiting class. Maybe they add one more. We talked
Speaker 1: about how next year's team is going to lose a lot. Dwan, Harris, Hunter, Dickinson,
Speaker 1: kJ Adams, who else is for sure gone? Shack Moore's
Speaker 1: for sure gone. I think Ryland Griffin and aj Store
Speaker 1: are the two that could come back for a fourth
Speaker 1: year if they want, but neither one.
Speaker 2: Of them they could, but they want to go, I believe, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you get Flory back if he doesn't do oh,
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo is also done after this year. So they're
Speaker 1: losing and David koits gone. They're losing a lot after
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, what at this point you're looking
Speaker 1: at Peterson, Tiller and Flory probably being starters, and you
Speaker 1: need a point guard and you need to I guess
Speaker 1: Ricky's passmore. Maybe you'll be involved at that point. Le
Speaker 1: Baron who was in h what what was that dude's
Speaker 1: name that left for Alabama? Le Baron filla On Laon
Speaker 1: or something. He was Alabama's leading scorer in the game
Speaker 1: in Purdue the other night. So he's playing. We'll be
Speaker 1: nice to have him. But with the portal these days,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll look for a high, high end point guard.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll enjoy this team before we start
Speaker 1: worry about next year. But yeah, Bill self good, here's
Speaker 1: the rap for Relf And now we get to finally
Speaker 1: talk about those hilarious other games Big twelve games. I'm
Speaker 1: actually like, we actually have some Big twelve games this week.
Speaker 1: A recap eight was a recap for the Big twelve.
Speaker 1: The week in general was very very bad, very bad
Speaker 1: and good, not good, terrible, sad, sad Lossy's lots of sad,
Speaker 1: sad losses. So just to recap, Arizona lost by double
Speaker 1: digits to Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: Kansas States.
Speaker 1: Yeah, except for in this game when they just became
Speaker 1: the freaking globetrotters for forty minutes.
Speaker 2: Kansas State.
Speaker 1: Kansas State lost by double digits to LSU. TCU lost
Speaker 1: by dogs. He did, We'll talk all about Coleman Hawkins.
Speaker 1: TCU lost to your Michigan Like, does that make you
Speaker 1: proud to be from Michigan?
Speaker 2: No, I can, okay, Michigan. Michigan basketball died to me
Speaker 2: in a spring day in twenty thirteen when Trey Burke
Speaker 2: decided to shoot from the county line and I had
Speaker 2: to listen to that. You know what, I don't think
Speaker 2: I actually think that was worse than dealing with Michigan
Speaker 2: State fans throughout my childhood. That moment was horrible. I
Speaker 2: had to hear about. I still hear about that, yeah,
Speaker 2: to this day. And they didn't even win a title
Speaker 2: that year.
Speaker 1: That was a big time because oh yeah, that that
Speaker 1: game was that, that game was over, That game was
Speaker 1: over over.
Speaker 2: Was it was it Elijah Johnson that punched Mitch Bagarium
Speaker 2: the nuts?
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, if they would have ejected him, Kansas wins
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then there was a moving screen on the
Speaker 2: tree Burke shop that wasn't called but no one wants
Speaker 2: to talk about that, but I do.
Speaker 1: Big time movie screen on that one. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: many misfree throws, so many miss Bunnies. Yeah, but Michigan
Speaker 1: just like to beat Kansas. They beat TCU, and shockingly
Speaker 1: it was by yep, double digits. West Virginia, our favorite
Speaker 1: West Virginia shoot me on the forehead, lost by you guess,
Speaker 1: did double digits to Pittsburgh, who's at the Powerhouse.
Speaker 2: That's a rivalry game, by the way.
Speaker 1: It is, and they never win it. And every year
Speaker 1: West Virginia loses the pitt And I gets on the
Speaker 1: podcast and I say, up, looks like they're gonna suck
Speaker 1: this year. And then whenever Bill goes up there, the
Speaker 1: final horn sounds and you hear over the last.
Speaker 2: Last year sent me into like a three day spiral
Speaker 2: of depression.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was bad. That was the moment. There was
Speaker 1: a moment every year where we go, oh, they just
Speaker 1: might not be as good as we thought they were
Speaker 1: gonna be. And that was the moment that year.
Speaker 2: No, no, Ryan, It's completely normal to lose to an
Speaker 2: interim coach at West Virginia, and when they have five
Speaker 2: scholarship players.
Speaker 1: That's what happened.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And Oklahoma State the only game last year that Kansas
Speaker 1: won on the road. I believe in Big twelve play right,
Speaker 1: wasn't that they're only Big twelve roads? Yeah? Yeah, they
Speaker 1: and that game they Oklahoma State is not good and
Speaker 1: they only beat Eastern Illinois at home by seven points.
Speaker 2: That is atrocious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we might have some problems. We might have some
Speaker 1: problems and the Big twelve, but it'll still cannibalize each other.
Speaker 1: Here come a few more weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and our buddies down the road at Kansas State
Speaker 2: were blown out at home by LSU as an eight
Speaker 2: point favorite, losing seventy six to sixty five. As old
Speaker 2: friend Cam Carter, who is now a foe after the
Speaker 2: game and mid game scored twenty points for the Tigers.
Speaker 2: Coleman Hawkins, who Kansas State decided to give five acres
Speaker 2: of farmland a million dollars and a lifetime subscription to
Speaker 2: esp In the magazine, committed felony assault on Cam Carter
Speaker 2: by elbowing him and starting a little pushing and shoving
Speaker 2: as the team's jogged off the court. Amazingly, Ryan's favorite people.
Speaker 2: The refs called that and off a foul on Cam Carter,
Speaker 2: which I don't know how that's possible. I watched this
Speaker 2: like ten times. There is no way that that is
Speaker 2: a foul on Camp Carter.
Speaker 1: They don't know anything. They're so bad.
Speaker 2: Coleman Hawkins got a running start, you know how, like
Speaker 2: a ghosts back up before they like rammed things that
Speaker 2: Colan Hawkins like backed up and ran into Camp Carter
Speaker 2: like a like a ram and a cartsoon and the
Speaker 2: reps are like blocking foul going the other way.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened and not a good look for Hawkins.
Speaker 1: And and you know, you'll remember the whole thing that
Speaker 1: happened with Nakuon Tomlin last year, which about being at
Speaker 1: an off the court domestic situation and Jerome Tang was
Speaker 1: real big saying no, he's not gonna play. We don't
Speaker 1: have tolerance for bad character here at canas crazy faith
Speaker 1: whenever this happens. And Coleman Hawkins three games into your season,
Speaker 1: just gets pissed and decides he's gonna as you said,
Speaker 1: kind of charging ram going back into somebody like I
Speaker 1: don't know why you do that. I think you should
Speaker 1: be suspended. He won't be, but I think you should be.
Speaker 2: They call the free safety blitz and Coleman Hawkins charged
Speaker 2: the a gap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's interesting, you know Kansas State needs
Speaker 1: little bit of They definitely and for my money, need
Speaker 1: a little bit of attitude. They need some flare on
Speaker 1: that team. Well, well, Coleman Hawkins will give it to you.
Speaker 1: It just may not be that kind of flare.
Speaker 2: I don't think Coleman Hawkins is a really good basketball player.
Speaker 2: But I Kansas State fans have harped on Kansas for
Speaker 2: giving Hunter Dinkinson like two million dollars of an eyele money.
Speaker 2: I think they did something similar with Coleman Hawkins. And
Speaker 2: Coleman Hawkins is now the statiscal leader and felony assaults
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve. Hunter Dickinson doesn't have one yet,
Speaker 2: Josh Jackson had several. Carlton Bragg made a nice dent
Speaker 2: in the stat sheet there as well. But yeah, Coleman
Speaker 2: Hawkins not a great investment so far.
Speaker 1: No, definitely not. As I'm watching the I have the
Speaker 1: Monday night football game on and it's a three score
Speaker 1: game with three minutes left, and the refs are just
Speaker 1: going crazy. There are five damn flags on the field.
Speaker 1: They're showing the field where there were just the Texans
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys had a little pushing and shoving after
Speaker 1: the play there are five handkerchiefs on the field. There
Speaker 1: are five officials NFL game, and they all have one flag.
Speaker 1: So every single one of these worthless individuals yeaeded their
Speaker 1: flag onto the field on the same way. How how
Speaker 1: how how how.
Speaker 2: How how And I don't know there was a there
Speaker 2: was a I feel like there has to be flags
Speaker 2: being thrown just because Dalla shouldn't be allowed to play football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're on their way to losing their fifth home
Speaker 1: game and five tries by at least three scores or
Speaker 1: something like that. Truly unbelievable. There's just there's just escorting
Speaker 1: people off the field. There's ejections everywhere and all of it,
Speaker 1: and off sets. Of course, refs are out of control,
Speaker 1: especially the ones that yeah called Coleman Hawkins. That called
Speaker 1: Colemanhawkins is on as a benefit of cap.
Speaker 2: It was so crazy.
Speaker 1: B YU beat Idaho on Saturday in basketball, and I
Speaker 1: believe I'll have to check, but surely that was the
Speaker 1: most noteworthy thing involving BYU athletics on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Night, right, Yeah, I was waiting for a drop.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's Tuesday.
Speaker 2: All forty thousand BYU students who were in attendance had
Speaker 2: to clutch onto their diet cokes as they watch their
Speaker 2: BYU Cougars lose to the Kansas Jayhawks and football because
Speaker 2: they're not allowed to have fun at BYU.
Speaker 1: Yep, it is. It is a really really hard selling
Speaker 1: point for just about anything BYU related. I don't know
Speaker 1: how they managed to do what they do every single
Speaker 1: time like they because they they always do have competitive
Speaker 1: athletic programs. Despite I would think for sure it being
Speaker 1: pretty hard to draw the people. Anybody who wants to
Speaker 1: go to college and you know, have like wild parties
Speaker 1: and you know, do things that college kids do. Only
Speaker 1: at BYU you cannot do those things.
Speaker 2: Correct. Arizona State took down Grand Canyon by eleven at
Speaker 2: home our takeaway at the official inside the Paint takeaway,
Speaker 2: here is a time on Grant Foster's still playing for
Speaker 2: the Lopes. He will be twenty five years old before
Speaker 2: selection Sunday this year. This is his twenty seventh year
Speaker 2: of college, which makes him only four hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: eight years younger than Tom Izzo.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Yeah, they've been in they've been They've
Speaker 1: done this for about the same amount of time. If
Speaker 1: we're being totally honest. I can't believe Tian grand Foster
Speaker 1: is still here. What was that? You had two juco years,
Speaker 1: a year at Kansas where he was a junior, five
Speaker 1: years against US.
Speaker 2: I can't even remember it was five years against twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty twenty one, So four years ago
Speaker 1: he was a junior, where usually that means you have
Speaker 1: one year left. He was a junior four years ago
Speaker 1: and then transferred out of Kansas, went to DePaul, had
Speaker 1: a medical red shirt. Then the next year went to
Speaker 1: what then we're in the twenty two to twenty three
Speaker 1: went to Grand Canyon, utilized this COVID red shirt. Last
Speaker 1: year utilized his actual junior year because he was now
Speaker 1: getting a fifth year, a fourth year junior. And then
Speaker 1: this year is I believe finally and it's impossible. I
Speaker 1: didn't know it was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was a real thing. But yeap not an entertaining
Speaker 1: week for the Big twelve, but still won. That happened
Speaker 1: other games. The best matchup of the week went down
Speaker 1: in East Lafayette as number thirteen Perdue scored a great
Speaker 1: win against number two Alabama eighty seven to seventy eight.
Speaker 1: Zach Edy replacement Trey Kaufman Wren, who's the new big
Speaker 1: man on campus, scored twenty six points and helped the
Speaker 1: boiler Makers pull away down the stretch almost at Arizona.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about them too. Alabama is still one of
Speaker 1: the best teams in college basketball and they undoubtedly will
Speaker 1: be just fine. However, really nice win for Purdue. They
Speaker 1: are better than I thought they'd be as they retool
Speaker 1: post Zach Edy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach Edy've ruined basketball. And good good pick up
Speaker 2: there for Ryan on pick him Wisconsin taking down number
Speaker 2: nine Arizona at all them one hundred and three to
Speaker 2: eighty eight in a game that had an unbelievable, inconceivable,
Speaker 2: impossible sixty three fouls in eighty seven free throw attempts.
Speaker 2: Oh my, eighty seven free throw attempts is only one
Speaker 2: less attempt from the floor than Caleb Love had, But yeah,
Speaker 2: that should be impossible.
Speaker 1: Seriously, I want to know, statistically, how many when the
Speaker 1: last time we had a regulation basketball game that had
Speaker 1: those numbers? Those are all mad numbers like that is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: How do we not start firing refs immediately? How whoever
Speaker 1: is in charge of reviewing official performances. How the hell
Speaker 1: are they not looking at this saying, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: what an outlier? What happened to your guys? Seriously? And
Speaker 1: I don't care. I had people on Twitter that were saying, well,
Speaker 1: maybe the team should stop failing. Don't call this many.
Speaker 1: This isn't good for anybody. It's not good for anybody
Speaker 1: to do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you ask a West Virginia fan,
Speaker 2: this happens every time they play at Allen Field House.
Speaker 2: But other than that, yeah, this should never happen. So frustrating.
Speaker 1: As for the game itself, the Wildcats got really unlucky.
Speaker 1: I still think of the better team. They just got
Speaker 1: blitz craigs By normally slog fest Wisconsin offense blow up
Speaker 1: for twelve threes and one hundred and three points, keyd
Speaker 1: By forty one from someone named John Tanye. Probably we'll
Speaker 1: go with that.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: Caleb Love was two for thirteen from the floor. They've
Speaker 1: actually put a microphone on the rim and it was
Speaker 1: just all night. He just kept yeating shots and none
Speaker 1: of them went in the basket.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Caleb Love did his part for Habitat for Humanity,
Speaker 2: building a village with all of his bricks. Other noteworthy results,
Speaker 2: Number fifteen Marquette here to prove that they totally won't
Speaker 2: lose to a seed five spots worse than them come
Speaker 2: this year's tournament. Shout out to Shaka Smart got a
Speaker 2: nice road win at Maryland seventy eight to seventy four.
Speaker 2: Also number twenty Florida one at Florida State and number
Speaker 2: twenty three Texas. A and M rolled twenty one Ohio
Speaker 2: State by fourteen at home. Because Ryan Day sucks massive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I have a balls drop, but
Speaker 1: I can say this, maybe that, maybeah accounts. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll go with that. Speaking of sucking ass, Tom is
Speaker 1: as Michigan State Spartans trailed Bowling Green for most of
Speaker 1: the night in East Lansing, only to end the game
Speaker 1: on a seventeen to nothing run and wind up winning
Speaker 1: by fourteen two touchdowns. For those keeping track at home,
Speaker 1: Bowling Green did not score for the final almost eight minutes.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's possible. I've never seen that
Speaker 1: happen in a game. I've never seen a close game
Speaker 1: where than one team. It's a one possession game for
Speaker 1: eighty percent of it, and then one team just doesn't
Speaker 1: score a point for the last eight minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last eight minutes suppost to have come in March.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was really really rough.
Speaker 2: The worst record in a power league belongs to Kyle
Speaker 2: Neptune's insert missus puff oh Neptune dot jiff Villanova Wildcasts
Speaker 2: as they are two and three after losing to Virginia
Speaker 2: in the worst matchup in the history of sports? How
Speaker 2: on earth did he get a job?
Speaker 1: Wasn't there a tournament a couple of years ago, or
Speaker 1: it was a handful of years ago at this point
Speaker 1: where Villanova and Virginia was like a super sexy matchup,
Speaker 1: and now it is just anything but Kyle Aptune getting
Speaker 1: a job. Great question. You got to stop hiring those assistants.
Speaker 1: It never works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible hire.
Speaker 1: Tell me you can. I'll let you take this next one,
Speaker 1: because then I have the UMKC nosub.
Speaker 2: All Right, The next time that we find ourselves wondering
Speaker 2: what the worst program in the country is other than Missouri,
Speaker 2: we need to remember that. On a Thursday night in November,
Speaker 2: the Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils. That's a mouthful. There
Speaker 2: lost one hundred and eleven to thirty nine to a
Speaker 2: terrible Missouri team. This team was one in thirty last
Speaker 2: year and they are one and two this year. You
Speaker 2: will never guess who they beat.
Speaker 1: So I want to see how much you remember here this.
Speaker 1: I looked this up and actually made an audible gasp
Speaker 1: because I couldn't believe this team came back around. It
Speaker 1: is a team we've talked about on the show before.
Speaker 1: They have the most hilarious name of any university we've
Speaker 1: ever dealt with, and they beat They are the one
Speaker 1: victory for this horrendous Mississippi Valley State team at plays
Speaker 1: came as a state this week. Shout out to Jerome
Speaker 1: Tank for scheduling tough. Uh do you know and and
Speaker 1: and do you know who this team is? We've talked
Speaker 1: about them several times on the show. One of the
Speaker 1: biggest jokes. Even their name doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: No, I was just gonna say Bishop Psychamore, but I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: They are the the one win for Mississippi Valley State.
Speaker 1: Delta Devils is the Mississippi university for women's men's basketball.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: would not have gotten met.
Speaker 1: That is the one that's they're dub that's amazing, They're
Speaker 1: like thirty five last year's And then there's wins right
Speaker 1: back to the sixties. And then there's this which sent
Speaker 1: basketball back to the sixties. You and case who is
Speaker 1: a D one team. They obviously play in the Summit League.
Speaker 1: They have They're a competent basketball team, certainly not Juggernaut,
Speaker 1: but they are a Division I program. They went out
Speaker 1: and played a game tonight on Tuesday night, Monday night.
Speaker 1: Shout out to a couple of people on Twitter were
Speaker 1: actually hagged me in this in this statu let me
Speaker 1: let me make sure I get the name right now.
Speaker 2: That's how you know this game was bad.
Speaker 1: Yes, whenever people want rock chalk blogs.
Speaker 2: Take on it like Ryan Landreth needs to see this.
Speaker 1: Yep. Shout out to at the Wheel Reel two, who
Speaker 1: is the same person that made me think that Doug
Speaker 1: McDaniel dropped out of smoke because he was stupid that guy.
Speaker 1: That guy pointed out and once our thoughts on should
Speaker 1: this game count? Kansas City played not D one, not
Speaker 1: D two, not D three, but National Christian College Association
Speaker 1: D two Naia School Calvary the other night or tonight
Speaker 1: and the final score of that game cam But you
Speaker 1: know what the final score of this game was.
Speaker 2: I can't remember off the top of my head. It
Speaker 2: was a lot too little.
Speaker 1: It was one hundred and nineteen to nineteen.
Speaker 2: You know what. In their in their defense, Ken Pomb
Speaker 2: will love that game.
Speaker 1: Ken Bom, well, like, that'll look really good in the metrics.
Speaker 2: It is unbelievable Reynald to come in with the facial
Speaker 2: expression of Viagra boner pills and give them a one seed.
Speaker 1: In case you want to know what a box scorer
Speaker 1: looks like. For a team that scored nineteen points in
Speaker 1: forty minutes, seven for fifty from the floor is an
Speaker 1: apocalyptic fourteen percent. They did somehow make five threes, which
Speaker 1: leaves two for thirty or two for twenty one on twos,
Speaker 1: and then you had an unbelievable zero Sero zilch free throws.
Speaker 1: They did not make a free throws.
Speaker 2: Clearly the refs were against them.
Speaker 1: They did assist on eighty three percent of their baskets
Speaker 1: though six assists on seven shots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so whenever we give those questions that are like, hey,
Speaker 2: how do you think you guys would do playing against
Speaker 2: the college basketball team. I think we forget that these
Speaker 2: teams exist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, UMKC can go out there and do this, then
Speaker 1: then UMKC would beat us by this margin problem.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, probably more impossible.
Speaker 1: And also, the leading scorer in this game, where Calvary
Speaker 1: had thirty four turnovers to seven baskets, their leading scorer
Speaker 1: was someone named Nathan yule Riches with four. Their leading
Speaker 1: scorer had four points.
Speaker 2: He gets all the chicks at that school for sure.
Speaker 1: Never seen it, and they love him because he made
Speaker 1: two baskets. I believe the only person in the entire
Speaker 1: roster that made multiple shots in this game. Truly unbelievable.
Speaker 2: They they play the game that James Nate Smith envisioned.
Speaker 1: To answer your question, the wheel reel two. No, this
Speaker 1: game should not count. This is a joke. There are jokes,
Speaker 1: and then there's this, like, what what is the point
Speaker 1: of scheduling this team? What does this do for you?
Speaker 2: I think, honestly, I don't. I'm assuming they just couldn't
Speaker 2: find anyone to put in their schedule at that point.
Speaker 1: I kind of think that it makes more sense at
Speaker 1: that point to just not play anyone scrimmage the White
Speaker 1: team put on like like not not that kind of
Speaker 1: white team like white and blue jerseys like Scrimma.
Speaker 2: You can go back with the sixties.
Speaker 1: And on that note, ask rock shock boy. Oh no,
Speaker 1: we have to do ranked teams to lose. Since the
Speaker 1: last show, there are three. Number two Alabama lost the
Speaker 1: good game to Purdue.
Speaker 2: Number nine Arizona, The Fighting Caleb Loves lost to Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: Fighting Caleb loves. The only thing Caleb Love fights is
Speaker 1: making shots. At number twenty State, Yeah, that's true. Number
Speaker 1: twenty one Ohio State lost to Texas A and M.
Speaker 1: That is your ranked team to lose since last show.
Speaker 1: I had like a sixty point lead in fantasy football
Speaker 1: and loss because it was going into Joe Mixon and
Speaker 1: whoever the hell the defense was that played Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: Next time you see his grandpa. Next time you see
Speaker 1: his grandpa, tell him that his grandson sucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout outs to Bill Bailey. I'm sure he listens, but.
Speaker 1: At Dick Underscore Taser listens and he asks he does.
Speaker 1: I'm a Bears fan, Oh, friends, is my friend is
Speaker 1: a Jets fan? Oh? We've decided there is no meaning
Speaker 1: life and are likely moving to North Korea to find
Speaker 1: a less painful existence, but we need an objective opinion.
Speaker 1: Who does the public perceive as currently and historically more
Speaker 1: pitiful Jets or Bears. It's hashtag fire eber flows.
Speaker 2: It's in my mind it's the Jets. And I'll go
Speaker 2: back to one reason. Hear the butt fumble. That's what
Speaker 2: it came to my mind right away. Yeah, the Bears
Speaker 2: had to run. They had Mike Ditka fill in the
Speaker 2: blank because I can't remember anything else.
Speaker 1: Jim McMahon, right, Jim McMahon, really cool, won a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl behind Singletary and and and Ditka and all those guys,
Speaker 1: and my William the refrigerator Perry, as I believe this day,
Speaker 1: the only defensive player that scored a rushing touchdown in
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. I think, yeah, that was a long
Speaker 1: time ago, forty years Okay, So in my head they're
Speaker 1: kind of equal. They both have one Super Bowl that
Speaker 1: happened as just a random o in an otherwise completely
Speaker 1: irrelevant sixty plus years in my lifetime. I'm twenty nine.
Speaker 1: The Jets currently have the longest playoff drought, but the
Speaker 1: Bears have been the worst team in my lifetime. The
Speaker 1: Jets had a few good seasons under Rex Ryan and
Speaker 1: there I feel like I watched them in primetime more so,
Speaker 1: I feel like they've they've been better than the Bears.
Speaker 1: But the Bears, I think have the brighter future. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Caleb Williams is gonna amount to a lot,
Speaker 1: but you at least have to be excited with him
Speaker 1: for at least a couple of years unless it just
Speaker 1: doesn't go well. My vote more currently pitiful, the Jets,
Speaker 1: more historically pitiful, probably the Bears. I think. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I trust Ryan's take on this because he remembers every
Speaker 2: single sporting event that's ever happened. Also, I do remember
Speaker 2: Chad Pennington from my childhood. I remember watching him playing
Speaker 2: for the Jets at one point I believe so yeah,
Speaker 2: he was pretty good.
Speaker 1: He was good for a little bit back before you
Speaker 1: really needed a more than a game manager. There have
Speaker 1: been a couple times where the Bears have almost made
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in my lifetime. They almost made it
Speaker 1: the year the Packers did and Jay Cutler got a
Speaker 1: booboo and pulled himself out of the game that didn't
Speaker 1: go great, and then they almost Then they were really good.
Speaker 1: A couple of years under Matt Naggy before jinking every
Speaker 1: field goal off the crossbar. Speaking of you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what, mister Wayne Kerr, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I'll fix all the Bears problems. You want to fire
Speaker 1: Matt Everfluce, that's fine. Kansas City Chiefs, right, they're a juggernaut.
Speaker 1: They win all these Super Bowls. You know who you
Speaker 1: want for their next head coach for your Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: How about the one the only Matt Naggy offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm telling you you cannot
Speaker 1: go wrong there, No sir.
Speaker 2: Reebob should hire Brian Borland.
Speaker 1: Just anybody. At this point, I would hire myself over
Speaker 1: Matt Naggy, And I don't know if that's fair or not.
Speaker 1: Wayne Kerr probably cares not to hear me complain about
Speaker 1: the Chiefs not winning in sexy enough fashion enough whenever
Speaker 1: you know you're a Bears fan, I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: At show me Hawk with a trio of questions. Here,
Speaker 1: tell me I'm wrong. The new Circus font isn't bad.
Speaker 1: I actually prefer the Trajan font.
Speaker 2: M I really, I'm a big Circus font fan.
Speaker 1: I like it, but I don't think it looks right.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the letters need to be bigger,
Speaker 1: Like you know, they made baseball jerseys, like the names
Speaker 1: on the jerseys are too small now kind of feel
Speaker 1: like that's what they're doing with the circus font here.
Speaker 2: I can see that a little bit. I'm just such
Speaker 2: a I'm such a socker for circus spunt in general.
Speaker 1: Yeah, circus font does look good, But I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I didn't hate the Trajan as much as everybody else did,
Speaker 1: just because I thought it looked kind of cool. That's
Speaker 1: how I grew up watching Kansas. They were seven years
Speaker 1: I was like seven or eight years old whenever they
Speaker 1: switched into the Trajan font, and that's been the way
Speaker 1: it is for most of my time watching. But I
Speaker 1: do like the Circus fund. I like how the court
Speaker 1: is has a circus fund. It looks more old school.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in Allen Fieldhouse for the first time
Speaker 1: this year, so I'm excited to check it out, see
Speaker 1: the upgrades and whatnot. But from what I've seen on TV,
Speaker 1: they've gone all in with the circus fund. Like the
Speaker 1: script all over the place is circus fund.
Speaker 2: Yeah, make sure you get some ice cream from the
Speaker 2: updated concourse.
Speaker 1: I will I'll report back on that. Shell Me Hawk
Speaker 1: also says Bucky McMillan needs to take the soon to
Speaker 1: be open Villanova job and renew the Kansas of Villanova
Speaker 1: rivalry for twenty six and beyond. I agree those two
Speaker 1: teams should be playing more. I think Kansas should be
Speaker 1: playing all these big teams, though not right now, because
Speaker 1: playing Villanova would not be any more entertaining than playing.
Speaker 2: You and C. Wilmington, Bugs, Buddy, No, dut Jeff and.
Speaker 1: The last one here. Is it too early to list
Speaker 1: the Chiefs offensive coordinator candidates? Yeah, probably a little too early.
Speaker 1: They are nine and one. Matt Naggey's gonna get a
Speaker 1: job somewhere, and then maybe Patrick Mahomes will be able
Speaker 1: to throw the ball more than three yards down the
Speaker 1: field per play. That'll happen. Happened at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care about the Chiefs, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cam rank, you're super ranked the sports you care
Speaker 1: the most about to the least about.
Speaker 2: The most, I would say college basketball number one two.
Speaker 2: I think it's as up between college football and the NFL.
Speaker 2: It used to be more and more college football. Now
Speaker 2: the Lions are relevance it's more fun. I care a
Speaker 2: lot about golf because that's my profession, but I don't
Speaker 2: really watch it anymore because I get bored of it.
Speaker 2: So I would I would say, that's like the top
Speaker 2: three and a half. Then the NBA come playoff times
Speaker 2: a little bit a little bit more fun to me,
Speaker 2: So yeah, that'd be that'd be it.
Speaker 1: Baseball, man, See, I love baseball. I love baseball now
Speaker 1: that they've made changes and made the game shorter. I
Speaker 1: like having a baseball game on in the background. I
Speaker 1: can't sit down and watch every pitch, right, you can't
Speaker 1: hang on pitch by Yeah, it's just too much. But
Speaker 1: I like having one on and it's a warmer weather. Sport.
Speaker 1: College basketball has been the most consistently good to me
Speaker 1: in my life being Kansas fan. I think the NFL
Speaker 1: is a sport I know the most about, but also
Speaker 1: uh and the NBA. If we ever get an NBA
Speaker 1: team in Kansas City, then that's gonna that'll that'll that better.
Speaker 2: You guys should have one.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Kansas basketball is kind of what's
Speaker 1: hurt at like Kansas basketball probably the following of of
Speaker 1: what an NBA team would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Kansas City's good market for it, though.
Speaker 2: I mean, we have the Pistons and they're not existing now,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean you have teams like I guess Memphis is probably
Speaker 1: a little bigger than I think, but you have yeah,
Speaker 1: Detroit and who are some of the other Utah has.
Speaker 2: An NBA team like Utah is crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean Kansas City with mahomes, bringing all these businesses,
Speaker 1: and I mean he got Whataburger here, he got a
Speaker 1: freaking women's soccer stadium here, the Royals, his ownership of
Speaker 1: the Royal. Eventually, I think you're gonna see an NBA
Speaker 1: and a w NBA team here. I care more about
Speaker 1: an NHL team I have basketball. Really would love to
Speaker 1: have an NHL team here. That'd be so fun.
Speaker 2: I didn't know you like hockey.
Speaker 1: I don't really like hockey. I don't really watch it
Speaker 1: very much. But if you put one, yeah, then I
Speaker 1: think it'd be real fun to get into you. That's
Speaker 1: kind of plenty in the time of year where, uh,
Speaker 1: the other sports aren't going as strong. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it'd be a lot of fun. We really don't talk
Speaker 1: at all about hockey here in Kansas City. There's just
Speaker 1: really no need to. But yeah, but if you put
Speaker 1: one in there, I think they would. Are you like
Speaker 1: you with Detroit? Detroit's gotta up to Troit c hockey team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michigan's a huge hockey state. I wasn't into hockey
Speaker 2: as a kid. I never played, so it was never
Speaker 2: really my thing. I actually went to a Red Wings
Speaker 2: game last year for the first time, which was really fun.
Speaker 2: But no, it's it's something I think we'd take for
Speaker 2: grainted up here.
Speaker 1: As for the rest of these questions here at eliot
Speaker 1: usent h a non ish basketball question. Which conferences are
Speaker 1: wall conferences make college sports what they are? If they
Speaker 1: were all actually to say screw the NCAA, would we
Speaker 1: see all teams, no conferences? Would we see just four
Speaker 1: or six big conferences? How do you think it would work.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a couple big conferences
Speaker 2: and then you'll have you know, like the lesser D
Speaker 2: one schools and kind of like subdivisions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you'd see it become like thirty to
Speaker 1: thirty five team super leagues that would say, oh, the
Speaker 1: NCAA is gone, We're gonna be the new boss. Then
Speaker 1: you'd have the SEC and their tournament there. If you
Speaker 1: have a conference get big enough where it's like the
Speaker 1: size of the whole NFL or the size of the whole,
Speaker 1: you know, NBA, then I think you're just gonna see
Speaker 1: like our thirty two teams will be in its own
Speaker 1: postseason tournament and that's it. There wouldn't be an NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And for what it's worth, I hope that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: For as much as the NCAA sucks, I don't think
Speaker 2: that would be good for like college sports in general.
Speaker 2: I think it kind of ruin everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really need more than that, like they I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to see. It would be
Speaker 1: very nice to see the NCAA piss off forever in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. But then whenever you think about
Speaker 1: what the fallout would be, there are other things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be like not having a Super Bowl and
Speaker 2: just having like the winner of the NFC and the
Speaker 2: AFC that is like the national title. Like, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what it would equate to me, And I think that
Speaker 2: would just ruin it.
Speaker 1: I think you're headed down the shoot of that though.
Speaker 1: I think why at some point you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: big ten Champ versus an SEC Champ and a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl sort of event.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That that that probably will happen, and Chris Reynolds
Speaker 2: will make all the decisions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that'll be interesting to see how Kansas will
Speaker 1: still be winning Big twelve titles when there's sixty teams
Speaker 1: in the conference at that point. We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1: At olheart Casey. If someone cursed you and told you
Speaker 1: that you can only blink one hundred more times and
Speaker 1: then you die, what would you do?
Speaker 2: Oh, I have been an answer to this. I read
Speaker 2: this earlier and I thought about it for like five minutes.
Speaker 2: I would actually invest all my money and eye drops.
Speaker 1: You have a very limited amount of time to do this, though,
Speaker 1: like by the.
Speaker 2: Time you went, Yeah, I would use my I'd use
Speaker 2: my insider stock trading, and I would invest in eye Drops.
Speaker 1: There you go, But could you could they come? Could
Speaker 1: they get to your door before you blink one hundred times?
Speaker 2: If you know the right people and you have Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, let's see here. How frequently do you blink?
Speaker 2: I mean, the realistic answer is you except you're gonna die.
Speaker 2: I think that's the answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Google says on average, most people blink fourteen
Speaker 1: to twenty times a minute, so you got about five
Speaker 1: to seven minutes to figure whatever you need out.
Speaker 2: That's enough time to watch the last five minutes of
Speaker 2: the National title game and go out on a bang.
Speaker 1: You better hope that you don't get something in your
Speaker 1: eye and you burn through twenty five blinks in three seconds,
Speaker 1: and oh dude, then it's over at that point, very quickly.
Speaker 1: Good question. I love, I love just just utterly impossible,
Speaker 1: unfeasible questions like that. That's what makes the show what
Speaker 1: it is. At the Wheel Reel too, Oh boy, thoughts
Speaker 1: on K football being two and oh and K State
Speaker 1: football being oh and two since Donald Trump got reelected, Well,
Speaker 1: we do have a we do have a Trump Trump
Speaker 1: drop on this show right now. So I mean, clearly
Speaker 1: that was the K football won't move until well ever,
Speaker 1: if I mean, we'll see, yeah, we'll see. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens next. That's funny. At Bentley Hunt fifteen, do
Speaker 1: we really think the Big twelve might be easier than
Speaker 1: we thought this year? Yeah?
Speaker 2: We need this every year.
Speaker 1: Every year we do this.
Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be a good league. I don't know
Speaker 2: for what it's worth I think the Big ten kind
Speaker 2: of sucks, though.
Speaker 1: It does suck. The Big ten sucks most years, but
Speaker 1: the Big ten definitely sucks right now. All right, So
Speaker 1: here's the thing on the Big twelve. Will it be
Speaker 1: less deep than we thought it would? Maybe the twelfth
Speaker 1: best team might not actually be vying for an NCAA
Speaker 1: tournament Berth. I'm not willing to say that yet, but
Speaker 1: that might be true. There's you could you there's a
Speaker 1: sliver of a chance that's correct. But does that mean
Speaker 1: necessarily that if the top nine teams are your tournament teams,
Speaker 1: that the conference is therefore quote easier than if the ten, eleven,
Speaker 1: and twelve best teams are still there. No, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Because the top four or five teams are still top
Speaker 1: fifteen squads nationally, which it doesn't even matter what everybody
Speaker 1: else does. That makes it by default as tough of
Speaker 1: a league as any.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still better than the Mountain West.
Speaker 1: At Mayo Zeke if Zach Clemens plays against Yuyoka as
Speaker 1: a bouquet and neither as a bouquet is not allowed
Speaker 1: to shoot from more than fifteen feet and they played
Speaker 1: a twenty one Wait a minute, Okay, hold on, I'm assuming.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that the question is as a bouquet is
Speaker 1: not allowed to shoot from less than fifteen feet, right, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so he has to take j's and Zach Clemens can
Speaker 1: do what he wants. How long does the game last?
Speaker 1: A long time? A very long time.
Speaker 2: I read this question at the gym and I almost
Speaker 2: picked up the dum dumbbells that I was using to
Speaker 2: throw them across the room trying to think about this.
Speaker 1: I think that I have to think Zach Clemens would
Speaker 1: get to twenty one before Doak makes what would that be?
Speaker 1: Twelve jumpers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I mean, yeah, fifteen. That might be
Speaker 2: one of the best hypotheticals that I've ever been asked,
Speaker 2: and it's the most just infuriating scenario to think about.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, since you're into hypotheticals, here's one that you've
Speaker 1: heard no doubt but have never answered. If you put
Speaker 1: Lebron James on the hundred best team in college basketball,
Speaker 1: would they go undefeated? No? Yeah, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1: How good would that team have to be before you'd
Speaker 1: say yes?
Speaker 2: I think it have to be like a fringe NCAA
Speaker 2: tournament team. Like a team that can gets a.
Speaker 1: You put Lebron James on TCU, do they go undefeated?
Speaker 2: I don't think they do.
Speaker 1: Honestly, you gotta be better than that. Like, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. You put them on Michigan State, do they
Speaker 1: go undefeated?
Speaker 2: I still don't think they do. I think I think
Speaker 2: you have to maybe a top twenty five team.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm with you, because you're gonna have a game.
Speaker 1: Have you watched college refs? You're gonna have a game
Speaker 1: where Lebron James has three fouls in the first ten minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Bill self exiles him until the second half as
Speaker 1: a result, as all coaches do. Uh No, I don't
Speaker 1: think they win them all. I think they're they're the
Speaker 1: huge favorite to win the whole thing, But I don't
Speaker 1: think they win them all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I still I don't think they win it all.
Speaker 2: Even with Lebron. That really pans out really so if
Speaker 2: I well, think about like Duke with Zion. Okay, but
Speaker 2: that's different.
Speaker 1: But Okay, So who's the fifteenth best team right now? Marquette?
Speaker 1: We put Lebron James on Marquette, and I tell you
Speaker 1: them are the field to win the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Well, Shaka smart sucks so much that he would try
Speaker 2: to turn Lebron into a post player.
Speaker 1: It don't matter Lebron is the coach at that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I just I it's
Speaker 2: so much bigger than one player. I get. I get
Speaker 2: that he's arguably the best player of all time. But
Speaker 2: he's still gonna have a game where he gets in
Speaker 2: a foul trouble and then at that point the other teams.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think it's a guaranteed.
Speaker 1: I think he's smart enough to just flat out not foul.
Speaker 1: I think he just knows what to do in that case.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that that team, I think definitely a top
Speaker 1: fifteen team is winning at all with him. Definitely TC
Speaker 1: probably top favorite. All right, Well that I'm curious what
Speaker 1: everybody else thinks on that one. And then the last
Speaker 1: one is just a comment from at pers Presst and
Speaker 1: Skurstic do not have a question, Just wanting to say
Speaker 1: your willingness to answer all questions is always appreciated. You
Speaker 1: guys bring valuable insight and perspective to the discussions that
Speaker 1: are always great to hear. As always looking forward to
Speaker 1: the next episode. Presspreciated Press then actually typed that from
Speaker 1: the concussion word of whatever hospital is in the town,
Speaker 1: that he either that or he's listening to a different
Speaker 1: podcast with this valuable insight that you speak of. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure where that's coming from.
Speaker 2: He's he's in cell Block D of Guantanamo Bay where
Speaker 2: they forced him to type out something on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Man, at that point, if you're there inside the paint
Speaker 1: would just be a ray of sunshine. Then I don't
Speaker 1: know how to go at that point. Very much appreciated Press.
Speaker 1: Then comments like that make it feel all the worthwhile,
Speaker 1: and you can always count on us for both a
Speaker 1: little bit of insight and a whole lot of nonsense,
Speaker 1: just like we think this next game will bring. As always,
Speaker 1: if you ever have asked Arcb's texting the land and
Speaker 1: at nine to one three, I'll maybe his phone number
Speaker 1: off in the next show, Yeah, that'd be really you
Speaker 1: think it's dis Yeah, that would be really fun.
Speaker 2: I don't think it would.
Speaker 1: I don't think it would.
Speaker 2: I think Lana would get like twenty text messages and
Speaker 2: be like, I think I found a woman.
Speaker 1: That'd be really fun. Like if I had any guts.
Speaker 1: I would do that, but you know you and C
Speaker 1: Wilmington at number one Kansas on Tuesday, November the nineteenth,
Speaker 1: seven o'clock and it's back on ESPN plus everybody's.
Speaker 2: Favorite Lance Sprinks. Oh when Wayne simeon.
Speaker 1: Lance Lance Blanks. You've said Lance Briggs Banks, And speaking
Speaker 1: of the Bears, Lance Briggs was a very good linebacker
Speaker 1: for the Bears. That's where you're getting that.
Speaker 2: I thought it was no joke. I thought it was Brinks,
Speaker 2: like a Brinks truck.
Speaker 1: No, it is Lance. It is Lance. What I just
Speaker 1: say Now, I'm all mixed up?
Speaker 2: It's Blanks? You're you're right, it is Blanks.
Speaker 1: But had didn't he die?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he died last May? What? Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I feel like a horrible person.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Nick told me that, and I was shipped yes at
Speaker 1: right now. And he also scored three hundred points in
Speaker 1: his NBA career. I didn't know that either. I didn't
Speaker 1: know he played for the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 2: How the hell did you not know this? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: she did die? I feel terrible now?
Speaker 1: How did he die? Oh? He died? Okay, I'm now
Speaker 1: reading about how that happened. I didn't know that a CTE.
Speaker 1: That's very sad. He was not a good announcer. But
Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot more to life than that. So
Speaker 1: there are plenty of uh phil in the fill in
Speaker 1: the no pun intended blank who.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Bill Walton, he died too.
Speaker 2: I'm down.
Speaker 1: They're all it's too bad. It's it's because it's it's
Speaker 1: the ones that you don't want it to happen that
Speaker 1: it does.
Speaker 2: Welcome to inside the obituary, with cam Lippole and Rylanders quickly.
Speaker 1: Audibling out of that. The u n C Wilmington Seahawks,
Speaker 1: great name of the CAAA, are three and zero. They
Speaker 1: enter with wins over Georgia, Southern South Carolina, Upstate, and
Speaker 1: a Division two team. Safe to say they're gonna get
Speaker 1: their biggest test thus far.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Seahawks backcourt is led by point guard Joshua
Speaker 2: Corbin and two guard Downovan Neuby. Both are shooting forty
Speaker 2: percent from three so far the season, with Nuby is
Speaker 2: one of the Coastal Athletic one of the Coastal Athletics
Speaker 2: best players with twenty three points in almost a sixty
Speaker 2: percent shooting mark thus far this year.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to know if he's really that good
Speaker 1: or if they're just kicking the crap out of these
Speaker 1: bad teams, but yes, numbers good through three games. There
Speaker 1: isn't a lot of height to talk about with the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: but the front court is led by Kamari McGriff, who
Speaker 1: plays the five. He is six ' nine, so Hunter
Speaker 1: Dickinson will have a height advantage here, probably not an
Speaker 1: athletic one. He averages thirteen and six, but figures to
Speaker 1: score sixty in this game because he's playing against Dickinson,
Speaker 1: who is college basketball's worst defender in the history of
Speaker 1: the Earth. Noah Ross, Elijah Jamison, and McCoy Maper are
Speaker 1: the other names to note on UNC Wilmington's roster.
Speaker 2: Through three games, the Seahawks rank first nationally and free throws,
Speaker 2: free throw attempts, and points per game. Their pace has
Speaker 2: been very high, but the quality of competition likely has
Speaker 2: quite a bit to do with that. They also have
Speaker 2: great rebounding numbers because their awful opponents are missing so
Speaker 2: many shots. Similar to the UMKC game that we alluded
Speaker 2: to earlier, there's very little takeaway from their Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: very little takeaway from their numbers. So we'll just have
Speaker 2: to see what happens on Tuesday night.
Speaker 1: And these teams have never played. This is their first matchup.
Speaker 1: College Basketball Reference is usually quite good to me with
Speaker 1: the information in the past, and whenever you search on
Speaker 1: the Kansas history page and it says no results found,
Speaker 1: that's how you know they've never played. UNC Wilmington has
Speaker 1: made a couple of NCAA tournaments recently, though, Bill self's
Speaker 1: really good at figuring out these mid majors that Kansas
Speaker 1: should beat by fifteen to twenty points. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the year, when this team's a thirteen seed,
Speaker 1: they can be like, hey, Kansas beat another tournament team.
Speaker 1: They always like they're very strategic with their opponents. They
Speaker 1: choose here, but we don't know. I'm gonna say this
Speaker 1: game is more high scoring because the numbers say it
Speaker 1: will Kansas ninety eight, UNC Wilmington seventy four.
Speaker 2: Okay, give me Kansas eighty nine. UNC Wilmington's seventy five.
Speaker 1: And Landon says seventy nine sixty seven thinks it'll be
Speaker 1: a little bit closer than the two of us, which
Speaker 1: very well could be. This is a team that's played
Speaker 1: They played Virginia really close a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: in the NCAA Tournament. They've they've been in big games,
Speaker 1: their coach has been in big games. So I don't
Speaker 1: think they're the type of team that's just going to
Speaker 1: melt in the loudness of Allen Fieldhouse. But also they're
Speaker 1: playing the number one team in the country and are
Speaker 1: likely to be a pretty significant underdog. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: see if there is any sort of spread posted on
Speaker 1: this game, because Kansas was probably Kansas was a thirty
Speaker 1: point favorite against Oakland and did not cover. And Kansas
Speaker 1: was a twenty seven point favorite against Howard and did
Speaker 1: Looking at the schedule for tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And I guess, and it's like twenty four ish.
Speaker 1: Yep, Kansas by twenty three is the Is this?
Speaker 2: Wow? So there we go.
Speaker 1: Which side are you betting on, sir?
Speaker 2: I don't. I hopefully will not bet on that, hopefully.
Speaker 1: Also, Wisconsin beat Wisconsin beat ut Rio Grande Valley by
Speaker 1: three points at home tonight, So yeesh, Alabama not the best?
Speaker 2: Look, Yeah, Caleb Love is really good?
Speaker 1: All right? Other games pick up.
Speaker 2: It's a good week.
Speaker 1: Of basketball. Kansas will not play again until they play
Speaker 1: the Blue Devils in Vegas next week. But there's a
Speaker 1: there's a pretty good game every single night this week
Speaker 1: that that's worth watching. Beginning on Tuesday night, going on Wall,
Speaker 1: Kansas plays number six per Due. They're in the top ten.
Speaker 1: They hit the road to play number fifteen Marquette and
Speaker 1: a game between two teams that won big games last week.
Speaker 1: I will take the Golden Eagles at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually I will too. Give me, give me more cuet.
Speaker 1: I think Purdue is better than we thought they would
Speaker 1: be in landon things they win. However, I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're the number six team in the country and
Speaker 1: they're not gonna win all these these tough non conference games.
Speaker 1: Kudos to Matt Paynter for scheduling tough though. Take notes.
Speaker 1: Take notes, John Shire number twenty five Illinois at number
Speaker 1: eight Alabama. I think this is a blowout. I think
Speaker 1: the Crimson Tide get back on track.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bounce back game for Bama.
Speaker 1: Number thirteen Baylor goes on the road. They play number
Speaker 1: twenty two Saint John's. You know what, give me the
Speaker 1: fighting Rick Patinos, Yeah, give.
Speaker 2: Me the Rick Patinos with slick back hair and a
Speaker 2: little upset win.
Speaker 1: Rick Patino beat his son's new Mexico team last week,
Speaker 1: and now I think he beats Scott Drew though, another
Speaker 1: one that's gotten really good at coaching scheduling tough. Scott
Speaker 1: Drew a plus. And this a rematch of the game
Speaker 1: that Arizona won at Cameron last year to announce as
Speaker 1: themselves as a player early in the season. Return game
Speaker 1: being played on a big twelve court, number twelve Duke
Speaker 1: at number seventeen Arizona Duke. Actually all jokes aside does
Speaker 1: have a pretty tough non conference schedule, and I think
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things to do in college basketball
Speaker 1: usually when it's the same season, but it's not this time.
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna go with it. Whenever a good basketball
Speaker 1: team loses at home to another good basketball team, the
Speaker 1: real high quality ones go on the road in the
Speaker 1: rematch and get their revenge. I think Duke wins on
Speaker 1: the road in Tucson and takes down the Wildcats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just I was gonna say a little
Speaker 2: bounce back game for Duke.
Speaker 1: Give me Duke, it'll be a good's That's a great slate, though,
Speaker 1: Remember whenever the whole first month of the season used
Speaker 1: to be just terrible, and now there's good games for
Speaker 1: a lot of these schools except for.
Speaker 2: Iowa State and you and Casey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well unless you think Calvary Is it's gonna be
Speaker 1: their year. So Cam, you and I will be back
Speaker 1: on the next the next show, it's just you and
Speaker 1: I again, probably coming out early next week. We will
Speaker 1: preview the Duke game, and then we should get Landing
Speaker 1: back as a Thanksgiving present if we choose to withdraw
Speaker 1: our firing decision. All results are not always final on
Speaker 1: this podcast. I'll have to check with the HR office.
Speaker 1: But yeah, one more, one more two person show and hopefully, uh,
Speaker 1: you know you. You're off to an undefeated start on
Speaker 1: this show ever since you you picked up the co
Speaker 1: host Kansas four and oh how long will that last?
Speaker 2: Oh? I hopefully if through Duke, don't hold your breath.
Speaker 1: That'd be nice. This is the Inside the Paint podcast
Speaker 1: on Rock Chalk Blog.
Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Lantern and I'm Cam Lippole.
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week.
Speaker 2: Until then, behave bye Landing.