WEBVTT

1
00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

2
00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Poker Go Podcast.

3
00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:17.359
<v Speaker 2>My name is Donnie Peters.

4
00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:22.960
<v Speaker 1>It is Tuesday, June twenty third, twelve forty four am.

5
00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:25.920
<v Speaker 1>The plan for today's show is I'm not really going

6
00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:28.760
<v Speaker 1>to touch on what happened at the World Series of

7
00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Poker today. Once again, got onto my computer a little

8
00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:35.799
<v Speaker 1>bit after midnight. I started looking around the tournaments and

9
00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:40.079
<v Speaker 1>stuff is still happening. Like the Milli Maker, I think

10
00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it's done for the day in real time, but because

11
00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:47.320
<v Speaker 1>they're on a delay due to the streaming, it's not

12
00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:50.399
<v Speaker 1>really being reported on in real time, of course, so

13
00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:53.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what's happening there. You got the

14
00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:56.799
<v Speaker 1>fifty KPPC is still playing out, This twenty five hundred

15
00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:59.119
<v Speaker 1>dollars tournament still playing out, The one KPLO is still

16
00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:01.200
<v Speaker 1>playing out, so you know, all this stuff is still

17
00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:03.679
<v Speaker 1>playing out. I'm not going to stay up much later

18
00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:06.959
<v Speaker 1>then getting this podcast out of the way and then

19
00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:08.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to get some sleep. So what we're gonna do

20
00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:11.920
<v Speaker 1>on this episode is I'm going to go through the

21
00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:14.599
<v Speaker 1>numbers through the first fifty events. Told you guys, I

22
00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:17.680
<v Speaker 1>had been tracking things. I went through some of the

23
00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:21.239
<v Speaker 1>stuff this evening and kind of put some thoughts together

24
00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:24.439
<v Speaker 1>some maybe I'll formulate it in real time as we

25
00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:27.200
<v Speaker 1>go through them, but I'll touch on the numbers through

26
00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the first fifty events. Remember the w SIP this year

27
00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:35.480
<v Speaker 1>is one hundred live poker tournaments, so fifty is exactly

28
00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the halfway point. Event Number fifty on the schedule was

29
00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the fifteen hundred dollars buy in Millionaire Maker that I

30
00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.640
<v Speaker 1>made a little bit of a run in made day

31
00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:48.480
<v Speaker 1>three today ultimately busted. And then I got some mailbag

32
00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:50.519
<v Speaker 1>stuff that I promised you guys I would get to,

33
00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:53.239
<v Speaker 1>So we'll get to that on this episode as well.

34
00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:57.560
<v Speaker 1>If you guys haven't done so already, I would really,

35
00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:00.560
<v Speaker 1>really really encourage y'all to go back to the last

36
00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:04.959
<v Speaker 1>episode on this podcast feed or head to the Poker

37
00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Goro YouTube channel and check out our first episode of

38
00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the newly launched Face the Ace podcast. My coworker Remco

39
00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:17.759
<v Speaker 1>rinkim longtime colleague and friend of mine. He is the

40
00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:20.960
<v Speaker 1>host of that show. The first guest was the one

41
00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:25.719
<v Speaker 1>and only Jeremy Becker. This is a long form sit

42
00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:29.599
<v Speaker 1>down podcast, one on one, hence the name Face the Ace.

43
00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Remco sits down with somebody from the poker industry and

44
00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:37.000
<v Speaker 1>just tries to dive into you know, who they are,

45
00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:40.439
<v Speaker 1>what makes them tick, how they got started, a little

46
00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:43.199
<v Speaker 1>bit in poker, their story, all that sort of stuff.

47
00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:47.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a really, really, really good podcast. I listened to

48
00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy's when they recorded it. I listened to it again

49
00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:54.120
<v Speaker 1>today and I love it, and listen. I'll be completely

50
00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:58.080
<v Speaker 1>honest with you guys, I am partial to Remco's interviewing ability.

51
00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I've always thought he's one of the absolute best, not

52
00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:03.400
<v Speaker 1>only in poker, but in that type of format. You know,

53
00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:07.280
<v Speaker 1>he asked the right questions. He's not shy to follow

54
00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:10.400
<v Speaker 1>up with things. He's inquisitive, so, you know, through it all,

55
00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I think Remco did a really good job. You know,

56
00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy talks about a little bit about his background and

57
00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.759
<v Speaker 1>how he got into the game. He talks about instinct, observation,

58
00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.120
<v Speaker 1>feeling the energy at the table. You know, he really

59
00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:26.120
<v Speaker 1>talks a lot about how he doesn't use solvers. He's

60
00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:28.599
<v Speaker 1>more of an experienced guy and in the moment guy,

61
00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:32.319
<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff. You know, all of his poker success,

62
00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:36.479
<v Speaker 1>working with Daniel mcgroney, with Josh Are who are his backers,

63
00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:37.479
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of stuff.

64
00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:37.680
<v Speaker 2>You know.

65
00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I won't say too much more on it, but just

66
00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:41.599
<v Speaker 1>just highly encourage you guys to go out there. It

67
00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is available in audio and video format, so either on

68
00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:48.719
<v Speaker 1>this feed or on the Poker Go YouTube channel. We

69
00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:52.599
<v Speaker 1>have another episode coming hopefully next week from Andrew Lucky

70
00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.639
<v Speaker 1>Chewiye Lichtenberger, and then hopefully we'll be rolling those out

71
00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:58.719
<v Speaker 1>just about every week that we can. We can get

72
00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.240
<v Speaker 1>a good guest and Remka' is gonna deep dive with them,

73
00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:03.479
<v Speaker 1>So go check that out. That's the Face the Ace

74
00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:06.680
<v Speaker 1>podcast on the Poker Gol podcast feet So I guess

75
00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:08.919
<v Speaker 1>first things first, before I dive into these numbers, just

76
00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:12.800
<v Speaker 1>let me quickly tie a bow on my million maker

77
00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.360
<v Speaker 1>run more than eleven thousand entries in the field. I

78
00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:19.639
<v Speaker 1>made Day three that took place on Monday. I came

79
00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:24.399
<v Speaker 1>in with a little bit over thirty bigs, kind of

80
00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.839
<v Speaker 1>a not so hot start to the day, got down

81
00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.879
<v Speaker 1>to a little bit over three hundred k, and ended

82
00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:34.319
<v Speaker 1>up doubling up with pocket fives versus ace Queen. My

83
00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:37.360
<v Speaker 1>opponent hit an ace on the flop. I rivet a five, baby,

84
00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:40.120
<v Speaker 1>because that's how we do a little bit of chaos

85
00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:42.600
<v Speaker 1>in the hand with me going all in over a

86
00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.600
<v Speaker 1>raised guy making the call, dealer dropping the deck, pushing

87
00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:47.879
<v Speaker 1>him the pod. Was a little bit of a frantic

88
00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.319
<v Speaker 1>moment for a second there, but we got it all

89
00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:53.879
<v Speaker 1>squared away, and yeah, so I doubled up there, ended

90
00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.439
<v Speaker 1>up building up to around nine hundred K.

91
00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:58.839
<v Speaker 2>Lost a couple pots back.

92
00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I played okay in some spots, you know, definitely,

93
00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:07.120
<v Speaker 1>as you always do. You know, you have some some

94
00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:09.279
<v Speaker 1>questions after things, so I'm gonna have to look at

95
00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:12.319
<v Speaker 1>some stuff. My My last hand was just a pretty

96
00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:16.160
<v Speaker 1>standard aid as king preflap. Razor had two nines. We

97
00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:19.040
<v Speaker 1>get the money in pre his nines held and that

98
00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:22.160
<v Speaker 1>was that two hundred and seventieth place out of you know,

99
00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.639
<v Speaker 1>almost twelve thousand entries in this thing, eleven seven hundred

100
00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.879
<v Speaker 1>and something. So turned to my uh, well, I guess

101
00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.240
<v Speaker 1>three K because I was in in twice to this thing.

102
00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:35.199
<v Speaker 1>So turned three K into eighty one hundred dollars. Pretty

103
00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:39.319
<v Speaker 1>good run, you know, just hopefully you can just keep

104
00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.399
<v Speaker 1>stringing together playing well. I thought I played, at least

105
00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.920
<v Speaker 1>for what I think my pokerability is. Thought I played

106
00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.199
<v Speaker 1>the lights out on day two A couple of things.

107
00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't happy with very slight things, but overall thought

108
00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I played really really well, probably some of the best

109
00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:58.800
<v Speaker 1>poker I've ever played in my life today felt really

110
00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:02.199
<v Speaker 1>good as well. Didn't get to play like super long,

111
00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:05.839
<v Speaker 1>lasted I think two and a half hours or something

112
00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:09.319
<v Speaker 1>like that, maybe three hours before I busted, So you know,

113
00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just lost a couple of pots here,

114
00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.120
<v Speaker 1>ended up losing that big hand with the Ace King

115
00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:17.800
<v Speaker 1>to bust, and that was just that.

116
00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:19.839
<v Speaker 2>So it's not really that big of a deal, all.

117
00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Right, let's get into these WSOP numbers. So again, I

118
00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:27.160
<v Speaker 1>just looked through the first fifty events. I know we're

119
00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:29.399
<v Speaker 1>a bit past fifty because the Millionaire Maker is a

120
00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.199
<v Speaker 1>multi day event and that whole thing, But we're going

121
00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:33.879
<v Speaker 1>through the numbers one through fifty.

122
00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Am I going to go through every single one. I'm

123
00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:35.759
<v Speaker 2>just going to hit.

124
00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:38.959
<v Speaker 1>On some top line things here. The first thing that

125
00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I noticed is the headliner events, and I put headliners

126
00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:47.759
<v Speaker 1>in quotes on my little rundown of notes here. Those

127
00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:52.160
<v Speaker 1>events remained big, and by headliner events, I mean the

128
00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Monster Stack, the Colossus, the Millionaire Maker. I would throw

129
00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.319
<v Speaker 1>the Mini Mystery Millions into this one as well. You know,

130
00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:04.519
<v Speaker 1>those are the headlining events. I guess you could also

131
00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:08.839
<v Speaker 1>include this seventeen hundred dollars US Circuit Championship in there,

132
00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.160
<v Speaker 1>But the problem is with that one is you can't

133
00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:13.120
<v Speaker 1>really compare it to past years because this is a

134
00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:16.360
<v Speaker 1>brand new event on the schedule for this year. Same

135
00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.000
<v Speaker 1>with the ten k Gigi Millions high Roller. Basically, headliner

136
00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:22.639
<v Speaker 1>events is like anything that puts something special in the

137
00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.560
<v Speaker 1>name that then transfers over into the structure that hopes

138
00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:28.519
<v Speaker 1>to draw people in. You know, all those events, though

139
00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:31.920
<v Speaker 1>they did pretty well. You had more than twenty thousand

140
00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:35.120
<v Speaker 1>entries in the Mini Mystery, Millions, you had almost twelve

141
00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:38.639
<v Speaker 1>k in the Monster Stack, and in the Million Millionaire

142
00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Maker you had the Colossus had over sixteen thousand entries.

143
00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:45.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, Monster Stack was up, you.

144
00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Know, about two thousand entries or so from twenty twenty five.

145
00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:52.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know, there was some finagle into the structure here,

146
00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:53.759
<v Speaker 1>which is going to kind of be a theme through

147
00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:57.319
<v Speaker 1>some of this stuff. Millionaire Maker, you know, slightly slightly

148
00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:00.600
<v Speaker 1>down about about two hundred and thirty entries are so

149
00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.639
<v Speaker 1>down from last year, so they're they're kind of just

150
00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.079
<v Speaker 1>on part I mean, overall, those numbers they all draw.

151
00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:07.959
<v Speaker 1>Are those events, I should say, so they all draw

152
00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:12.040
<v Speaker 1>really well. I guess it's a question is are they

153
00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:15.319
<v Speaker 1>holding up because of the changes to the structures? You know,

154
00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the Monster Sacked, the Colossus, the Millionaire Maker, those all

155
00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:23.839
<v Speaker 1>those events all had multiple starting flights, so multiple day ones,

156
00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.959
<v Speaker 1>and then each starting flight had its own Day two,

157
00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.959
<v Speaker 1>so it allowed you to make a Day two play

158
00:08:29.959 --> 00:08:33.279
<v Speaker 1>a bit longer into the structure, bust, you know, get

159
00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:36.159
<v Speaker 1>back into another Day one if it was available, and

160
00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.399
<v Speaker 1>go from there. So did those maybe pump the numbers

161
00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:40.000
<v Speaker 1>up a little bit?

162
00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:40.600
<v Speaker 2>You know?

163
00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess you would want to look at the data

164
00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.320
<v Speaker 1>that we don't have, which is you'd want to look

165
00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.320
<v Speaker 1>at unique entries and see how those compare year over

166
00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:50.759
<v Speaker 1>year and if the unique entries are in fact growing

167
00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:53.360
<v Speaker 1>up or growing up or staying the same or whatever.

168
00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Next thing that I noticed, you know, looking at the

169
00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:01.039
<v Speaker 1>numbers here mixed games, they seem to be having a moment.

170
00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Here they seem to be performing pretty well. You know,

171
00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:05.840
<v Speaker 1>this is one of the one of the trends that

172
00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:08.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of pops out the most. You've got some pretty

173
00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:11.759
<v Speaker 1>healthy gains across the board, I know we touched on

174
00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:14.559
<v Speaker 1>a couple of these in the various episodes and we

175
00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:16.279
<v Speaker 1>talked about the events. But you know, you have the

176
00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:19.039
<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred dollars no limitduce to seven single draw was

177
00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:23.200
<v Speaker 1>up eighteen percent, dealer's choice fifteen ars, dealer's choice was

178
00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:26.759
<v Speaker 1>up ten percent. The Big O had a huge jump

179
00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:28.480
<v Speaker 1>up forty three percent. I don't know if that one

180
00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:30.480
<v Speaker 1>might have had two starting flights or not, but either way,

181
00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:33.919
<v Speaker 1>still big jump there in entries. Even you know, even

182
00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.519
<v Speaker 1>if it has two starting flights versus one, it still

183
00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:39.360
<v Speaker 1>shows that there's demand to be able to uphold having

184
00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.519
<v Speaker 1>two starting flights in an event like that ten k

185
00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Big O. Nice jump there, thirteen percent. Raz got a

186
00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.559
<v Speaker 1>nice boozt ten k Raz even that one jumped up

187
00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.240
<v Speaker 1>sixteen percent. So you know, there's a lot of jumps

188
00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.320
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of these these mix game tournaments, and

189
00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:56.919
<v Speaker 1>that's that's good to see, you know. I think I

190
00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.759
<v Speaker 1>think that for some time there was this kind of

191
00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.559
<v Speaker 1>underlying current with things that mixed games might be dying

192
00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.360
<v Speaker 1>and no one cares, and people just want to play

193
00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:07.080
<v Speaker 1>nolam at hold them, and then secondary to that, they

194
00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:09.559
<v Speaker 1>want to play PLO. But I mean, I think it's

195
00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:12.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty clear looking at the numbers this year that mixed

196
00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:15.720
<v Speaker 1>games are healthy. You know, they seem pretty good. The

197
00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:20.960
<v Speaker 1>participation is on par with past years and if not

198
00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:23.679
<v Speaker 1>up you know, so that's that's great to see. And

199
00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:26.759
<v Speaker 1>if you do want to loop in or lump in

200
00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:30.039
<v Speaker 1>the PLO stuff into the mix game, so basically anything

201
00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:32.960
<v Speaker 1>non no limit hold them, then I think it bodes

202
00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.639
<v Speaker 1>really well for that sector of variants that are available

203
00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:45.559
<v Speaker 1>out in the World Series of Open. You can also

204
00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:49.080
<v Speaker 1>see from the numbers that pot limit Omaha does very,

205
00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:52.679
<v Speaker 1>very very well. This is impossible to mix now some

206
00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:55.080
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff, I think, if I remember correctly, might

207
00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:58.080
<v Speaker 1>have an additional starting flight or two in there. But

208
00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:02.519
<v Speaker 1>either way, you know, these events potlomon Omaha is definitely thriving.

209
00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:05.600
<v Speaker 1>People love to play it, even even just some of

210
00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the anecdotal stuff of like walking around the World Series

211
00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:11.159
<v Speaker 1>of Poker and talking to people and talking to people

212
00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.559
<v Speaker 1>who you know, I know play poker and they want

213
00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:17.240
<v Speaker 1>to play poker and whatever, and they want to get

214
00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:20.919
<v Speaker 1>into or they already are into pot limon Omaha much more.

215
00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:25.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's definitely booming, you know, I know, Joey

216
00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.679
<v Speaker 1>Ingram shout out to Poppy out there, you know, made

217
00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a big thing for many years like this is the

218
00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:32.519
<v Speaker 1>great game of potlm and Omaha. And he might have

219
00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:34.600
<v Speaker 1>been a little bit ahead of his time, you know,

220
00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:37.039
<v Speaker 1>not that potlomon Omaha wasn't growing at the time when

221
00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.559
<v Speaker 1>Joey was championing that message. But now it really does

222
00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:45.120
<v Speaker 1>seem like PLO is absolutely crushing, and you know, it's

223
00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:47.799
<v Speaker 1>gotten to the point where I'm I'm starting to just

224
00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:51.759
<v Speaker 1>wonder if the WASIP really needs to take a hard

225
00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:59.120
<v Speaker 1>look at Pot limit Omaha, specifically in terms of increasing

226
00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.679
<v Speaker 1>the amount of events they have on their schedule, you know,

227
00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.679
<v Speaker 1>for next year and beyond and and maybe even you

228
00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.159
<v Speaker 1>do some some gimmick style things on the side where

229
00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.559
<v Speaker 1>you do like a Pot limit Omaha Player of the

230
00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:13.879
<v Speaker 1>Year or or something, you know, where it's just the

231
00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:16.480
<v Speaker 1>pot limit Omaha events. I don't know, I'm I don't

232
00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:18.240
<v Speaker 1>know if any of those things are right or wrong,

233
00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just I'm just throwing out ideas because

234
00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I see the numbers and I see how many people

235
00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:27.759
<v Speaker 1>really want to be playing pot limit Omaha. Like can

236
00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you do a I don't know, can you do a

237
00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:35.759
<v Speaker 1>pot limit Omaha Mystery Millions tournament. You know, yes they

238
00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:38.399
<v Speaker 1>have a potlamit Omaha Mystery Bounty, but can you I

239
00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:39.960
<v Speaker 1>think they have one of those, but you know, if

240
00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:41.720
<v Speaker 1>they don't, forgive me, but could you do like a

241
00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:44.399
<v Speaker 1>one with a million dollar prize pool guarantee? Like, can

242
00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:47.519
<v Speaker 1>you just start doing crazy stuff with pot limit Omaha?

243
00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:49.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, once upon a time it was like, can

244
00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:51.840
<v Speaker 1>we start doing crazy stuff with the nola at hold them?

245
00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Right?

246
00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:54.679
<v Speaker 1>I remember when they did the first one K nolanan

247
00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:57.799
<v Speaker 1>hold event Like that shit was bananas at the time,

248
00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:00.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then you started thinking of all all

249
00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:01.879
<v Speaker 1>these kind of crazy things that you could do with

250
00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:04.480
<v Speaker 1>these big field Nolam and Holdham tournaments. Could you start

251
00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:07.440
<v Speaker 1>doing some of that sort of stuff with Potlam and Omaha.

252
00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

253
00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean I feel like with the health that it's

254
00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:14.840
<v Speaker 1>showing from this variance, then yeah, maybe we could start

255
00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:17.639
<v Speaker 1>exploring that. I mean, I wouldn't go slapping out five

256
00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to ten events like that on the schedule, but maybe

257
00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:21.879
<v Speaker 1>you just put one out there and you make it

258
00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:24.559
<v Speaker 1>a huge, big ordeal and make it a huge thing.

259
00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I really feel like if you were

260
00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:29.720
<v Speaker 1>going to be all in on potlam and Omaha as

261
00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the World Series of Poker. This might be the time,

262
00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Like this definitely might be the time. And I think,

263
00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Tim Duckworth and I have been kind of

264
00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about this, you know, for maybe a year year

265
00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:43.279
<v Speaker 1>and a half or so, spawning the fact that you know,

266
00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.840
<v Speaker 1>we were doing the PGT PLO series that always did

267
00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:49.600
<v Speaker 1>really well. I know some polo events that have done

268
00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:53.320
<v Speaker 1>well elsewhere. We did the Texas PLO roundup that always

269
00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:56.720
<v Speaker 1>did really well down at Champions Club in Texas.

270
00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:58.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, you just you.

271
00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Could see, you could see it, you could here, you

272
00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.720
<v Speaker 1>could feel it, like so Potlomon Omaha is here, and

273
00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:06.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's probably more of it to be had

274
00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.519
<v Speaker 1>if the WSP wants to get out there and get

275
00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:12.080
<v Speaker 1>after it. On the other side of things, things that

276
00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:15.639
<v Speaker 1>might not be looking so hot, it's these mid stakes

277
00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Nolanman hold them events, you know, that's where it seems

278
00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:23.039
<v Speaker 1>like we're getting the biggest hits. You know, we got

279
00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the two K no limit was down I think forty percent,

280
00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe slightly more. The three K Nolan hold Them

281
00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:32.200
<v Speaker 1>was down right around the same a little bit more

282
00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.720
<v Speaker 1>than forty percent, The five K eight handed was down

283
00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:38.879
<v Speaker 1>eighteen percent. You had a five hundred dollars freeze out

284
00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:40.840
<v Speaker 1>event that was down six hundred. Our Deep Stack that

285
00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.960
<v Speaker 1>was down for this section though, like the two K

286
00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to three K and the five K, those events being

287
00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.000
<v Speaker 1>down as large as they are, you know, maybe it's

288
00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:52.240
<v Speaker 1>just that, and then coupled with, you know, some of

289
00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:55.440
<v Speaker 1>those smaller buying events which are less gimmicky than those

290
00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:58.879
<v Speaker 1>headlining events that I talked about at the start. Maybe

291
00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:01.519
<v Speaker 1>it's just that. Listen, here's a people are picking. They're

292
00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:07.919
<v Speaker 1>picking the big headlining events, the giant field marquee events. Again,

293
00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:11.240
<v Speaker 1>that's Monsters Stack, that's Millionaire Maker, that's Colossus.

294
00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:11.759
<v Speaker 2>You know.

295
00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:14.840
<v Speaker 1>We have about to start is the Mystery Millions. We

296
00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.240
<v Speaker 1>had the Mini Mystery Millions back at the beginning. I know,

297
00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:19.039
<v Speaker 1>a new event for this year, but still one of

298
00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:22.120
<v Speaker 1>those headlining events. And we're still going to have the

299
00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Gladiators of Poker coming up, you know, we have the

300
00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.120
<v Speaker 1>mini main events coming up. You know, So maybe it's

301
00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:30.039
<v Speaker 1>all those events that if somebody's going to pick something

302
00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:32.879
<v Speaker 1>to play, that's where these people are going to gravitate towards.

303
00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, heck, that's what I gravitate towards right, like

304
00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:36.039
<v Speaker 1>that that's what I like to play.

305
00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Now.

306
00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to play the Mystery Bounty tournaments. I'm

307
00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:42.200
<v Speaker 1>just not a fan of that format personally, so I

308
00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:45.600
<v Speaker 1>tend to skip those in the live realm. But you know,

309
00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll definitely make a point to play the Monsters Stack

310
00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.919
<v Speaker 1>the Million Maker. You know, I didn't play the Colosses

311
00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:54.399
<v Speaker 1>this year just because I couldn't fit it into the schedule.

312
00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.919
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I love the Colossus tournaments, you know,

313
00:15:57.039 --> 00:15:58.399
<v Speaker 1>so stuff like that, and I think a lot of

314
00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:00.759
<v Speaker 1>people are just they're they're just drawn to those events.

315
00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:04.320
<v Speaker 1>So the recreational players that come out, even the serious

316
00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.720
<v Speaker 1>recreational players, you know, they love the Giant Field Marquee events,

317
00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:11.159
<v Speaker 1>and then that stuff in the middle, and it's and

318
00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that stuff in the middle also a two K, a

319
00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:14.879
<v Speaker 1>three K, a five K, like that's also the stuff

320
00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:16.799
<v Speaker 1>that's it probably feels a bit.

321
00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Harder, right Like.

322
00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:24.039
<v Speaker 1>If you're somebody who's not a serious pro, I would

323
00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:26.240
<v Speaker 1>put myself into that category, Like I'm more of a

324
00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:28.039
<v Speaker 1>serious recreational I have a real job.

325
00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I play for fun.

326
00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I take it extremely seriously, but you know, I

327
00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:33.480
<v Speaker 1>still do it on the side. I'm not a professional

328
00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.120
<v Speaker 1>poker player. I'm gonna go after the events where I

329
00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:40.519
<v Speaker 1>think I have a better shot, and those tends to

330
00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:42.759
<v Speaker 1>be the one where I find more value in the field.

331
00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:44.799
<v Speaker 1>And that's going to be a million maker, that's gonna

332
00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:46.919
<v Speaker 1>be a colossus, that's gonna be a monster stack.

333
00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:47.200
<v Speaker 2>You know.

334
00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I might find some time to play a two

335
00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:52.159
<v Speaker 1>K or a three K if if I can swing

336
00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it and if I can feel comfortable and that sort

337
00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:55.360
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, But I'm not going to go out of

338
00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:58.039
<v Speaker 1>my way to play those events. You know, those are

339
00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:01.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of more of the the hardened pros are going

340
00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:04.359
<v Speaker 1>to be making up the large percentages of those fields.

341
00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:06.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, I look around a three K, I look

342
00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:08.920
<v Speaker 1>around a twenty five hundred dollars. I look around a

343
00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:11.400
<v Speaker 1>two K or a five K, and the tables do

344
00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.000
<v Speaker 1>seem pretty tough, you know, Versus you look around these

345
00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:16.319
<v Speaker 1>these millionaire makers and these monsters actually.

346
00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Like what's going on.

347
00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:19.119
<v Speaker 1>This is the greatest tournament in the world, you know.

348
00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:22.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's where people are just generally gravitating towards.

349
00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.359
<v Speaker 1>You could also have you know, some effect here of

350
00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:29.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, like what I was talking about when I

351
00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:30.920
<v Speaker 1>was talking about Potlam and Omaha, where a lot of

352
00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.359
<v Speaker 1>players these days are saying, you know, hm, I'm going

353
00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to be getting into Potlam and Omaha more, or maybe

354
00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:36.680
<v Speaker 1>they've already gotten.

355
00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Into Potlam and Omaha more.

356
00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Just with everything that's going on, maybe they're opting to

357
00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:43.480
<v Speaker 1>play a PLO event versus you know, playing a five

358
00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:45.279
<v Speaker 1>K or a three K, you know, depending on how

359
00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that schedule breaks up. And then as it pertains to

360
00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the schedule, there's just a lot of crap going on

361
00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.119
<v Speaker 1>at the World Series. There's a lot of stuff that's

362
00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:55.960
<v Speaker 1>number one, number two, Like there's a lot of stuff

363
00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.440
<v Speaker 1>going around in Vegas. So maybe there's just some congestion everywhere.

364
00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there is congestion everywhere for sure. I think

365
00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:05.400
<v Speaker 1>that's undeniable. So you know, it's just it's harder to

366
00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.759
<v Speaker 1>get all these numbers, you know, just booming, booming, booming again.

367
00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I think the numbers are holding kind of overall. But yeah, yeah,

368
00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's kind of where we're at. If

369
00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.400
<v Speaker 1>we are seeing a squeeze, it's definitely with these these

370
00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:21.319
<v Speaker 1>mid stakes. Nolan had hold them events specifically as for

371
00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:24.839
<v Speaker 1>the high roller stuff, So we're talking twenty five K,

372
00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:27.039
<v Speaker 1>fifty K hunter K. I mean even the two hundred

373
00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:30.519
<v Speaker 1>and fifty K Super high Roller happened already did see

374
00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:33.039
<v Speaker 1>some declines here. Twenty five K high Roller went down

375
00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:36.079
<v Speaker 1>about fifty players or fifty entries, twenty five K six

376
00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:40.720
<v Speaker 1>MacX down around ninety entries. The fifty K took a

377
00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:44.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty big hit down around ninety entries. Two hundred and

378
00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:46.319
<v Speaker 1>fifty K Super high Roller was down. Now the hunter

379
00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:47.319
<v Speaker 1>K high.

380
00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Roller, that one was up.

381
00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess you should also loop in the twenty five

382
00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:53.599
<v Speaker 1>K Heads Up Championship because it is similarly priced. You

383
00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:56.480
<v Speaker 1>know that field size did double, and I know that

384
00:18:56.799 --> 00:18:59.039
<v Speaker 1>part of that is structural because they did expand the

385
00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:01.359
<v Speaker 1>bracket from capping at sixty four to capping it at

386
00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:04.319
<v Speaker 1>one to twenty eight, and they did allow if you

387
00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.200
<v Speaker 1>played one A and you didn't make it through, you

388
00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.680
<v Speaker 1>could play one B. But still that that does demonstrate

389
00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:11.519
<v Speaker 1>that there is demand for a twenty five K heads

390
00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.319
<v Speaker 1>of poker turn That demand is there, and they got

391
00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:16.759
<v Speaker 1>there ultimately with having one hundred and twenty eight entries

392
00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in a twenty five K heads up tournament. So I mean,

393
00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:21.720
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a feather in their cap to be.

394
00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Able to achieve that, So, you know, I.

395
00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Don't know when it comes to these these high roller events.

396
00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:30.640
<v Speaker 1>My thought here is that this is probably where you're

397
00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:35.200
<v Speaker 1>seeing the effects of two things happening. One, I think

398
00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:37.920
<v Speaker 1>this is probably where you're getting the biggest effect from

399
00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:40.279
<v Speaker 1>the new tax law, the ninety percent rule with the

400
00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:46.160
<v Speaker 1>tax law probably here. Two something like bitcoin being down.

401
00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I think these are the players that would be affected

402
00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:51.720
<v Speaker 1>the most, Like, like, those are the two things that

403
00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:55.519
<v Speaker 1>I think pertain here. You know, I just feel like

404
00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that community is more into the tax stuff, They're more

405
00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.200
<v Speaker 1>invested in bitcoin. So that's kind of where I am

406
00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:05.559
<v Speaker 1>with the high roller stuff. I think the high roller

407
00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:08.400
<v Speaker 1>schedule at the WSP is still very good, and they

408
00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:11.279
<v Speaker 1>offer kind of the right amount of stuff. So you know,

409
00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:14.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe these numbers showing the decline that they did, maybe

410
00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:16.440
<v Speaker 1>it just means that, you know, next year, you're.

411
00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Not looking to increase them. You're just going to stay

412
00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:20.160
<v Speaker 2>packed with everything.

413
00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, So just some overall stuff here. Once again, I

414
00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.599
<v Speaker 1>don't think poker is necessarily shrinking, you know, I think

415
00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you got those big headlining events. Monster Stack gets nearly

416
00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:43.359
<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand, the Millionaire Maker almost twelve thousand, Colossus got

417
00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:45.480
<v Speaker 1>up over sixteen thousand. I believe it is now the

418
00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:50.680
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth largest live poker tournament in history. The Mini Mystery

419
00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Millions drew very well, of course, more than twenty thousand

420
00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:57.400
<v Speaker 1>entries there so, and if you know, I talked about

421
00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.720
<v Speaker 1>how I possibly want to compare them not only to

422
00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:02.759
<v Speaker 1>last year, but to a previous year, and that year

423
00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:06.920
<v Speaker 1>was twenty nineteen. And shout out to my friend Jeff

424
00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Walsh for putting this on my radar, because twenty nineteen

425
00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that was the last pre COVID year. So I guess

426
00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.319
<v Speaker 1>if you were to like map a momentum of or

427
00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:21.279
<v Speaker 1>map the trend of poker field size is like it's

428
00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:25.400
<v Speaker 1>going kind of one direction from you know, two thousand

429
00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and six, seven eight, and then it's building and then

430
00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:31.960
<v Speaker 1>it drops off because of you know, black frighting and

431
00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:33.400
<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff, and it starts kind of

432
00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:34.880
<v Speaker 1>building back and then all of a sudden we get

433
00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:37.319
<v Speaker 1>smashed with this pandemic and just like kind of everything

434
00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:40.359
<v Speaker 1>falls off the cliff. Twenty twenty WSP doesn't really happen.

435
00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:43.720
<v Speaker 1>They do the main event, but it's like the online

436
00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:46.599
<v Speaker 1>to live hybrid, like it's just not the same and

437
00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:49.039
<v Speaker 1>then twenty twenty one comes around, you got to do

438
00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the whole vaccine card masks, like the whole thing, and

439
00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:55.559
<v Speaker 1>then you know, we're kind of like building back building,

440
00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:57.960
<v Speaker 1>back building back so it like really threw everything off.

441
00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:01.200
<v Speaker 1>So like, where are we now compared to where we

442
00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:06.559
<v Speaker 1>were before that crazy pandemic happened? Right, and the numbers

443
00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:09.960
<v Speaker 1>look really good. I mean I have my spreadsheet color

444
00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:14.000
<v Speaker 1>coded in terms of like if this event happened in

445
00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:16.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen and if it happened in twenty twenty six,

446
00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:19.960
<v Speaker 1>is the trend? You know, if it's up, it's green,

447
00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:22.440
<v Speaker 1>if it's down, it's red. And I see a whole

448
00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.200
<v Speaker 1>heck of a lot of green. In fact, I only

449
00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>see one, two, three, four red. Now there's a bunch

450
00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:32.240
<v Speaker 1>of yellow, meaning that event didn't happen in the two years,

451
00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:37.119
<v Speaker 1>so you can't really compare it, but it's overwhelmingly it's

452
00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.839
<v Speaker 1>like twenty might be thirty, maybe thirty are green or so,

453
00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:45.000
<v Speaker 1>so it's like compared to twenty nineteen, like things are

454
00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.799
<v Speaker 1>up now. Of course, that comes with the fact that

455
00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:50.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that has to do with structures have changed.

456
00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:53.960
<v Speaker 1>They might have added starting flights, they might have added

457
00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:57.519
<v Speaker 1>re entry rules and stuff like that. But I still

458
00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>think that at least as it pertains to these headline

459
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:04.160
<v Speaker 1>any name brand events again, Monster Stack, Colossus, Million Maker,

460
00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:08.039
<v Speaker 1>you know those events, they still do draw the poker

461
00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:09.759
<v Speaker 1>population incredibly well.

462
00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:10.559
<v Speaker 2>That they do.

463
00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's I think that's pretty safe to say,

464
00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:17.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think the players in those events they

465
00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>like reasonable buy ins. So on the low end, you

466
00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:23.160
<v Speaker 1>have the Colossus five hundred dollars. On the higher end

467
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.599
<v Speaker 1>of that sort of event, you've got fifteen hundred dollars

468
00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:28.279
<v Speaker 1>for the Millionmaker and the Monster Stack. So those are

469
00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:32.559
<v Speaker 1>pretty reasonable price points, right. They offer huge prize pools,

470
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Like people know that when you're playing one of those events,

471
00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you're going to get a huge prize pool. It's there

472
00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't a guarantee on the event, but it's basically guarantee.

473
00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Right.

474
00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:45.279
<v Speaker 1>You're getting big fields, you can you can win life

475
00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:49.680
<v Speaker 1>changing money, and it's not only just first prize. It's

476
00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:53.039
<v Speaker 1>like you make the final two tables or though for

477
00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:56.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people winning thirty k is going to

478
00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of really good things in their life,

479
00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and you can do that in these tournaments when these

480
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>fields are so so so big. I think the players

481
00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that that gravitates towards those events. You know, I feel

482
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>like they want to feel like they have a shot.

483
00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:14.640
<v Speaker 1>And if you're the more recreationally player you are, the

484
00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:16.599
<v Speaker 1>more you're going to gravitate towards an event where you

485
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>feel like you have a shot. So if it's a

486
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:22.279
<v Speaker 1>choice between let's say, putting two bullets in the Monster

487
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Stack for fifteen hundred dollars each, are going to play

488
00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:27.599
<v Speaker 1>the two thousand dollars Nolan hold them or the three

489
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:30.559
<v Speaker 1>k Nolan hold them? I think you feel, without a doubt,

490
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.519
<v Speaker 1>coupled with all those other things that I mentioned, you

491
00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>have better shot to win more money at a more

492
00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:40.240
<v Speaker 1>palatable price point in something like the Monster Stack or

493
00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:44.039
<v Speaker 1>the Millionmaker. So that's why you know those draw very well.

494
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I also think that PLO it's no longer a side show.

495
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:50.319
<v Speaker 1>It is right there. It is booming, it is growing.

496
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I talked about how there should possibly

497
00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>be more PLO or you know, maybe starting to dip

498
00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:59.880
<v Speaker 1>into the gimmick side of PLO a little bit more

499
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>so that that can definitely happen mixed games. Yes, they

500
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>are still a distant third to nolanm at hold them

501
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>in poo, Yes, but those seem incredibly healthy, incredibly healthy,

502
00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:15.119
<v Speaker 1>so traditional midstakes Nolan at hold them events those took

503
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a hit. So that's the two K, the three K,

504
00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:20.599
<v Speaker 1>and the five K. Those are some rather significant declines.

505
00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's it's not like where I should

506
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>think you need to remove those events from the schedule,

507
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:28.440
<v Speaker 1>because you know, the two K got nine hund and

508
00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:30.519
<v Speaker 1>sixty eight, the three K got thirteen hundred, the five

509
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.039
<v Speaker 1>K got five seventy, like those are still fine numbers, right,

510
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's probably you probably don't want to add multiple

511
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:38.079
<v Speaker 1>of those events, right. You're probably just fine with the

512
00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:40.160
<v Speaker 1>ones that you have, and that's what you're gonna keep

513
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:44.279
<v Speaker 1>doing every single year. So I think also we might

514
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:46.759
<v Speaker 1>be seeing the player pool being split a little bit more,

515
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.839
<v Speaker 1>and that comes, you know, both in the variants that

516
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>they're opting to focus on. I talked about how some

517
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of those players might be choosing to you know, maybe

518
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:55.920
<v Speaker 1>they skip and Nolan and Hold them event to play

519
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.079
<v Speaker 1>a PLO event. Maybe there's people a heck that are

520
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>skipping Nolan hold events to play mixed game events, right,

521
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.759
<v Speaker 1>that could be happening. There's also a lot of venues

522
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.279
<v Speaker 1>right here in Las Vegas that are doing big things.

523
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>You got stuff at Aria in partnership with bet MGM,

524
00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 1>you got the Win running big stuff. You got Venetian

525
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>running big stuff. Of course, everything that's happening at the

526
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 1>World Series of Pover is you know, going all summer

527
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>every single day. You know, there's just there's stuff freaking everywhere.

528
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 1>You got the even the kind of on the smaller side,

529
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 1>you got stuff at the Orleans. I think you have

530
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff at the Golden Nuggets. So it's just there's just

531
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:32.799
<v Speaker 1>there's stuff everywhere. There is so much stuff to play.

532
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, you never know on schedule timing,

533
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go through this,

534
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, with with with such a fine comb that

535
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that I'm just I'm picking every little thing apart, like,

536
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>oh well, this one was shifted by seven days here,

537
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and this one's off by you know, a whole month

538
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:52.319
<v Speaker 1>in the schedule, and then everything that goes around and

539
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing all of that. So everything that I

540
00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>say isn't exactly apples to apples. I'm just trying to

541
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.519
<v Speaker 1>paint a bigger picture. I know there's been a lot

542
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:03.559
<v Speaker 1>of conversation about oh, the numbers are down. The numbers

543
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 1>are down. The numbers are down. I mean, yes, but.

544
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm hitting you guys with it.

545
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah, but I don't know, I kind of

546
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:16.839
<v Speaker 1>feel like they're not as bad as we might be

547
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 1>making out to seem. Like, yeah, the mid stakes Nolman

548
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 1>hold them stuff. Those are taking big hits. The high rollers,

549
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:25.799
<v Speaker 1>those are down, but the mixed games are up. The

550
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>PLO is pretty much crushing. I mean, if you just

551
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:32.440
<v Speaker 1>want to look at the first fifty events this year

552
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>by number versus the first fifty events from last year,

553
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.039
<v Speaker 1>this year's got one hundred and sixteen thousand plus entries.

554
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Last year had one hundred and four eight hundred, So

555
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>you're up in total entries, right of course, you know

556
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 1>that can be what I'm saying with It's not exactly

557
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Apple's taples. It depends where certain things following the schedule

558
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 1>and whatever. But you know, overall, I think poker's okay.

559
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I think it's okay. I think you just we're

560
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.160
<v Speaker 1>at the time in the industry when when people just

561
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.519
<v Speaker 1>don't need to be, you know, tripping over the front

562
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 1>of their skis with giant guarantees and tons of events

563
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and all this crazy stuff because it just the demand

564
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:15.839
<v Speaker 1>might not be there yet, so don't go too crazy

565
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 1>with the supply. That's just where I'm getting at with this.

566
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I do also need to say that I do not

567
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.519
<v Speaker 1>know fully how untouched these numbers are. And what I

568
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>mean by untouched is like we know the day one

569
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.559
<v Speaker 1>plus the day two situation, some of the re entry stuff.

570
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's kind of pumping up these numbers a little

571
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.839
<v Speaker 1>bit in some of these events, you know, Yes, I mean,

572
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I have this good feeling, I think that things are okay,

573
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:50.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just don't. I don't know fully if

574
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>all the positive things that I am seeing are more

575
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of a result of structural manipulation than anything else. And

576
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>it's not to say that some of these structural changes

577
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>can't be absorbed by the community, because I think they

578
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>certainly can't. It's more about there's definitely a sense out there,

579
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:10.559
<v Speaker 1>and you can see it on social media a lot,

580
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 1>that there's a large portion and a growing portion of

581
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 1>the community that is feeling a bit squeezed by the

582
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.839
<v Speaker 1>late registration and how lengthy that is the individual Day

583
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>two is and how it kind of can seem like

584
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:26.279
<v Speaker 1>a trap at times that you just get sucked into

585
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.599
<v Speaker 1>these tournaments. So it's a lot, and I just I

586
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>don't want us to get too far ahead, that we're

587
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 1>so far ahead and then all of a sudden something

588
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>falls off a cliff. Because I think poker is generally,

589
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 1>overall in a pretty healthy place. I think these numbers

590
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 1>do bear out that things are healthy. But let's just

591
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.559
<v Speaker 1>not go too buck wild with things. You know, everything's

592
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>got its own it's you know, three day ones and

593
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 1>their own day two's, and late registration for so much

594
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.039
<v Speaker 1>time and like all this sort of stuff. Let's not

595
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>just go too crazy with it.

596
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Right.

597
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so overall I think it's okay. You know,

598
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's bad. I don't think it's overwhelmingly

599
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.839
<v Speaker 1>awesome like everything's up, like money's falling from the sky.

600
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>It's great whatever, you know. But you know, I think

601
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the big field no limits stuff, the stuff that attracts

602
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the recreational players, that's pretty good. There's a lot of

603
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>value still to be had there. Those numbers look like

604
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>they're holding strong. Mixed games are doing well, Potlam and

605
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.599
<v Speaker 1>Omaha is doing well. Yeah, we see some pullback on

606
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.079
<v Speaker 1>the high rollers. Yeah, we see some pullback on the

607
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>mid steak stuff, and maybe some of that mid steak

608
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 1>stuff we kind of maybe see throughout the rest of

609
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the year.

610
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Like the most notable.

611
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Stuff would be World Poker Tour stuff, just because they

612
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 1>operate in that price plint of like the thirty five

613
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred to five K range most often, So we'll have

614
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 1>to keep an eye on that and see how they go.

615
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think it's okay. You know, so

616
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 1>the sky is not falling, none freak out out there.

617
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the numbers are holding pretty strong. And the

618
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>one thing that I would say is that if there

619
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>was a time, I think I've said this before, but

620
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.559
<v Speaker 1>if there was a time to get into potlam and omah,

621
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>it feels like that time.

622
00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Now.

623
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into some of these mailbag questions, comments,

624
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>emails that were sent in that I owe you guys

625
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>got a handful of them here, so let's just get

626
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 1>right into it. Doug wrote in said in massive field tournaments,

627
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>our payoffs too heavily weighted to the top. If you're

628
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.599
<v Speaker 1>in a field of ten thousand players and finished one

629
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>hundredth meaning you outlasted ninety nine percent of them, it

630
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.359
<v Speaker 1>seems like you should make some pretty freaking big money,

631
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>but the five the top five to ten spots hog

632
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 1>such a huge chunk and there's not much left for

633
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>players to be ridiculously but fall short of the found

634
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>say well, I mean, I get it, but you know,

635
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 1>the money should be up top, Doug and into everyone

636
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.839
<v Speaker 1>out there. I will say that I'm not totally on

637
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>this trend of paying fifteen percent that I do a lot.

638
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I know they do a lot of at the WSIP.

639
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it should be more closer to twelve and

640
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a half percent. I'm just kind of over the fifteen

641
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>percent thing. I think you should be paying twelve and

642
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a half or twelve percent of the field and let's

643
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>just go from there, which you know, speaking to Doug here,

644
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.119
<v Speaker 1>that would then allow you to have some more money

645
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to put towards some of the other places.

646
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 2>I do like.

647
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Having, you know, having the money up top in poker tournaments.

648
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's part of the fun is playing for

649
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:18.559
<v Speaker 1>all the freaking damn money up top and chasing that goal.

650
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that they're they're too bad overall,

651
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I think it's I think it's fine,

652
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, because when you when you think of it,

653
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like in terms of buyings, I think it's still pretty good.

654
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I just finished two hundred and seventy out

655
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 1>of almost twelve thousand entries in this million Maker. You know,

656
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the buying was fifteen hundred. I got eighty eight hundred dollars.

657
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I think that's plenty fine. You know, I played for

658
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 1>two and a half days of poker, a little bit

659
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>less than two and a half days of poker, and

660
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I had a nice return on my money. And you

661
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>know it was almost what six buyons that that I

662
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>won back, and I thought it was you know, I

663
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>think it's a really good you know, I would have

664
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>loved to be playing for more a bit deeper in

665
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the tournament, but yeah, I think overall it's it's not

666
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the worst. And part of the you know, they always

667
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 1>say in tournaments, the money's up top. You know, the

668
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 1>money is in the first the top three spots or

669
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the top five spots or whatever, and that's why you

670
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 1>need to play accordingly to give yourself the best chance

671
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to not just hit these min cashes like you have

672
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>to be putting yourself in a position to you know,

673
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 1>be able to go on and make a final table

674
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 1>and make a top five or top three, or heck,

675
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>even win the damn thing, you know, because that's what's

676
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna pay the bills. And yes, some of that may

677
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:39.759
<v Speaker 1>mean you are busting before the money in some spots

678
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>because you're adding a little bit more risk into your game,

679
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>but that's just what you gotta do. Doug also said

680
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.039
<v Speaker 1>he said, kind of related, but should big tournaments allow

681
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.599
<v Speaker 1>players to discuss chopping at the final table? Yeah, I

682
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 1>mean I think so. Yes, I'm always down for chopping.

683
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.799
<v Speaker 1>I personally subscribe to the deals should be allowed. But

684
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you should also have to leave like a percentage to

685
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>play for, like call that five percent, call that ten percent,

686
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:07.039
<v Speaker 1>and call that twenty percent.

687
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Whatever that is. I always think that there should be

688
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>something to play for. I don't.

689
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I really do hate when players just say, yeah, let's

690
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>just chop it, shake hands and go home. You can

691
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>have the trophy whatever.

692
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>No, we do.

693
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that, you know, I like I think

694
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>they do it on the ept where it's the Hey,

695
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to set aside a certain amount to play

696
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:25.079
<v Speaker 1>for and you can do whatever you want with the

697
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>rest of the money. So it allows you to, you know,

698
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>reduce some variants. You know, if you're or lock up

699
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:33.800
<v Speaker 1>some more money, which is a good thing, of course,

700
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>but I like being able to ultimately play for it,

701
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>have a winner, and get a little bit more extra

702
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>in there. So I like that side of Nick Denny.

703
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Nick Denny for his kind words, but

704
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 1>he said you should have played the family pod jingle

705
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>with the cartoon puking song after the or with the

706
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:56.079
<v Speaker 1>with a cartoon puking song after pot just before telling

707
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>my sick kids story.

708
00:34:57.800 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I blew it. You know, what are you gonna do?

709
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>What are your top three spots walkable to get a

710
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 1>decent sit down dinner during dinner break?

711
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Good question.

712
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, first of all, a lot of the restaurants

713
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>in Paris I think are pretty good, So I mean

714
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.159
<v Speaker 1>I would start there. Now, obviously you're probably fighting with

715
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 1>some crowds there. I would probably I think, listen, I've

716
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.119
<v Speaker 1>never done this, but I've been told you can make

717
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 1>it to Aria, like you can walk there within fifteen minutes.

718
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.119
<v Speaker 1>So I would definitely say you can headlen over to Blaggio,

719
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you can headlen over to Aria, you can headlen over.

720
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 2>To plan in Hollywood, all that sort of stuff.

721
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I will always tell people that when you are trying

722
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to get dinner on a dinner break. It's always benefits

723
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>you to try and set up some sort of friend

724
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.280
<v Speaker 1>that goes there ahead of time. They can get the

725
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>dinner or get the table or whatever, and you can

726
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you can come back out, or you can join to

727
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:54.519
<v Speaker 1>meet them, and then maybe if you have to leave early,

728
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 1>you can go from there. Not too far from Horseshoe.

729
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's really walking. Plus it's outside,

730
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>but Naked City pizzas like kind of not too far away.

731
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.039
<v Speaker 1>If you're in for some pizza and some wings, I

732
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:10.800
<v Speaker 1>would check them out if.

733
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:11.679
<v Speaker 2>That's something you want to do.

734
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:13.519
<v Speaker 1>It's hard for me to really say this because listen,

735
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't eat dinner breaks and dinner. I hate dinner

736
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 1>breaks in Boger tournaments, and I don't like to eat

737
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 1>when I'm there. But you know, if you got some

738
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>money to spend, I would just say walk over to

739
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Blaggio and get a get a nice meal over there.

740
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Lars said my two cents, the dinner break will remain

741
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 1>a fixture in Poger tournaments. What else can you get

742
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:34.079
<v Speaker 1>a thousand gamblers one and a half hours to spend

743
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.360
<v Speaker 1>their hard earned money at a casino restaurants or a

744
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>machine called cash Inferno or something. Eliminate dinner break, eliminate

745
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 1>the built in capitalist opportunity. I agree, this is why

746
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I think venues do this. I disagree on the idea.

747
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I think there are other ways to get people to

748
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 1>spend the money in your casino while improving the overall

749
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:59.679
<v Speaker 1>experience of playing poker at your venue. I'm not a

750
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>dinner break eye. I think that they should be gone

751
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and you should be doing different things. If you're an operator.

752
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>For example, let's say this this million Maker that I

753
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>just played. You know there was a dinner break on

754
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:13.760
<v Speaker 1>day one and day two. What I think is a

755
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 1>better way to go about it is eliminate the dinner break. Okay,

756
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.639
<v Speaker 1>but instead if you get to a certain point, or

757
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>if if you're in the tournament, you get a voucher

758
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:27.760
<v Speaker 1>for X percentage off. Like let's say you're playing day

759
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the Millionaire Maker, right, they have the I

760
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>think it was a seventy five minute dinner break on

761
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>day one. Well, instead of having that seventy five minute

762
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.760
<v Speaker 1>dinner break, just have a regular fifteen minute break and

763
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.800
<v Speaker 1>then allow people to get out of there an hour earlier.

764
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 1>So let's say you get out there around nine o'clock,

765
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, just for argument's sake, but give them, you know,

766
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>a fifteen or twenty percent off voucher as part of

767
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>their buy in to this, And it's only good at

768
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>certain restaurants within your venue. Right now, those people are

769
00:37:55.800 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>financially incentivized to go spend money, which are You're probably

770
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>making a decent amount of margin on anyway, so the

771
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>fifteen or twenty percent off shouldn't really hurt you. So

772
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you can do stuff like that. You know,

773
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:09.199
<v Speaker 1>that's a better way that I.

774
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Go about it.

775
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>That way you have, I think you have a better

776
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 1>playing experience without having to deal with a dinner break.

777
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>You also have a better nighttime experience in the fact

778
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that you get out at a reasonable time, you can

779
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>set up a nice dinner with your friends, you can

780
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.920
<v Speaker 1>go there. You can of course take advantage of the

781
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>little discount that you're getting. So I mean, yes, there

782
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>are going to be some people that leave property and

783
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>go elsewhere, but there's people that leave property and go

784
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>elsewhere anyway on dinner breaks, so that doesn't matter, right,

785
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 1>I think that's going to be kind of a wash.

786
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 1>So that's how I would do something, because I believe

787
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that any operator in the space, the winning operator within

788
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>this space in the next five, ten, fifteen years, will

789
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>be the operator that focuses on experience first and above

790
00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:00.679
<v Speaker 1>all else. So how you can improve the experience of

791
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>going to play poker at your venue or at your

792
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>tour or at your series like that is how you

793
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>are ultimately gonna win. And this is my personal preference

794
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>on how you know, or at least one thing on

795
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.199
<v Speaker 1>how you would do that. Eugene wrote in doesn't really

796
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:17.599
<v Speaker 1>have a question, but he did want me to get

797
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>a message to Daniel on the ground. I don't know

798
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:21.559
<v Speaker 1>if Daniel's listening, if he is still hear it here.

799
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>If not, maybe I'll find him in person and I'll

800
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:27.039
<v Speaker 1>bug him about this. But Daniel, sorry. Eugene said that

801
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.159
<v Speaker 1>he got into mixed games. He was watching some of

802
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Daniel's kind of instructional videos that he put on his

803
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel, but they seem a little bit out of date,

804
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>so he's got to freshen him up. You know, some

805
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>of the stud rules and stuff might not really apply anymore.

806
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:44.199
<v Speaker 1>So all I'll say to Eugene is listen, I will

807
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.440
<v Speaker 1>see what I can do no promises here, but I

808
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:48.800
<v Speaker 1>will see what I can do. Justin Budd said, it

809
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 1>was a pleasure to meet you at the Monster Stack.

810
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the shout out. I did cash and busted

811
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 1>on a cooler the last level of day two. Well,

812
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>congrats on your cash. You did better than I did,

813
00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>he said, He enjoyed it. Definitely will play again next year.

814
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Luck in the main and all the other events you play. Justin,

815
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>it was a pleasure meeting you. Don't stop emailing in.

816
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.599
<v Speaker 1>It was a lot of fun. Also a shout out

817
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:11.119
<v Speaker 1>to Henry Toohey, thank you for the kind words. And

818
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>then I do have to get one thing out of

819
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:17.639
<v Speaker 1>the way because there was a few different messages about

820
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the streaming and the coverage and as it pertains to

821
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>poker Goro, so you know we I've seen them come

822
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>through the email inbox, They've been on social media as well.

823
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>So I do just want to present some clarity here,

824
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and that clarity is that poker go is no longer

825
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the rights holder or the group making the editorial and

826
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:41.119
<v Speaker 1>coverage decisions. So I know that's a bit of like

827
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 1>not really anything. You know, the w s AP is

828
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>running all those decisions directly. Our role for the summer

829
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.800
<v Speaker 1>is simply production support. A lot of the questions we

830
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.559
<v Speaker 1>just can't answer, Like, I'm sorry, guys, I don't have

831
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the answers for you. I know, my friend Jeff Platt

832
00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:00.119
<v Speaker 1>has been out there on social media, you know, just

833
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>answering every single question that that gets thrown his way.

834
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've seen them firsthand. He's NonStop grinding on

835
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Twitter answering questions. So you know, on one side of things,

836
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:13.719
<v Speaker 1>you guys can go back a few episodes. You can

837
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.320
<v Speaker 1>watch the podcast episode, the interview that I did with

838
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Platt when we talked about the streaming plans and

839
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 1>the coverage, and not to throw anything more on Jeff's plate,

840
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:26.119
<v Speaker 1>but he's very accessible on Twitter. He has been responding

841
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to everyone, So if you do have a question, you know,

842
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>throw it his way. But but that's really all I

843
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:33.880
<v Speaker 1>can say on that. I don't I feel like I

844
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>don't want to ignore the people that have been asking

845
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:37.760
<v Speaker 1>us questions, so I'll just say that, Listen, we don't

846
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>make those decisions anymore here at Poker Grow. We are

847
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:43.519
<v Speaker 1>partners with the World Series of Poker on the production

848
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>side of things, yes, but you know, the questions do

849
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:49.119
<v Speaker 1>have to be sent their way, so you know, hopefully

850
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.199
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't annoy you guys too much with with my

851
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 1>answer there, but you know, just full transparency there. I

852
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:58.039
<v Speaker 1>know we always do harp on transparency on this podcast,

853
00:41:58.079 --> 00:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>so just wanted to let you guys know unwhere the

854
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.679
<v Speaker 1>things stand. And no, we are not ignoring or at

855
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>least I'm not trying to ignore the questions that are

856
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>coming on social media, that are coming via email. But yeah,

857
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 1>but that's that. That's the podcast. As always, it was

858
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a pleasure to talk poker with you guys. Another day

859
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>at the World Series of Poker is done. Maybe I

860
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>have no idea. It's one thirty in the morning. I'm

861
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.320
<v Speaker 1>going to go to bed. Shout out to Rich Ryan

862
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.599
<v Speaker 1>producer Rich for getting this up in the morning. As always,

863
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>don't forget to check out that Jeremy Becker interview with

864
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Remco Rinkim on the Face the Ace podcast that just dropped.

865
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:34.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a good one.

866
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>We are going to have Andrew Lucky Chewy Liutenburger coming

867
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>out in a few days as well. We'll get back

868
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:43.679
<v Speaker 1>to recapping the WSOP stuff on the next episode. I

869
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>plan on plane the fifteen hundred dollars freeze out on Tuesday,

870
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 1>so wish me luck out there. My name is Donny

871
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Peters and I will talk to you guys next time.

872
00:42:57.159 --> 00:42:57.199
<v Speaker 1>J
