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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You Were

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Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of The Federalist

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and David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. Just

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as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show,

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please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. Malli,

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did you see the Pulitzer Prizes are out?

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Speaker 2: Did I wait every year with excitement to see what

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excellent journalism is out there?

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Speaker 1: Well, you'll be happy to know that this year the

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Pulitzer Prize in Public Service went to Pro Publica for

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exposing the fatal consequences of abortion bands. I'm surprised they

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didn't win another one for smearing Supreme Court justices. That

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was probably within the last year.

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Speaker 2: I think they did win one, but that was the

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previous year. It could be wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, they've won a few. This one listen. This one

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centers around a few stories that do with just complete

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and utter lie about abortion bands in Georgia. Specifically, it

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was the case of Amber Thurman, who was a twenty

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eight year old North Carolina woman who checked herself into

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a suburban Atlanta hospital and died there from infections caused

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after she took abortion pills to aboard her twins. The

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story is just transparently a lie, so easy to debunk

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by any kind of by any intelligent person. One has

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to go down to the fifty seventh paragraph of this

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three thy five hundred word story to get to the

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line that says, it is not clear from the records

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available why doctors waited to provide, you know, the help.

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So also, the reporters who worked on the story did

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not quote, don't have a single source witness anyone having

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anything to do with this case on the record saying

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it had anything to do with his abortion law. Every

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time you get to the part where a normal reporter

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would say, we're going to corroborate what we've said, or

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we're going to, you know, talk to someone who was there,

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they talked to some unnamed uh, you know, abortion activist

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or an abortion activist on the record somewhere else. So anyway,

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it's the one of the most sleazy, poorly done stories.

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It was clearly meant just to give oppo to politicians.

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Kamala Harris mentioned that this story, as did Senate Republic

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Senate Democrats. So anyway, well that's why.

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Speaker 2: That's why they won They won because they did the

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job that they were supposed to do, which was pushed

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Democrat propaganda with a veneer of journalism around it. There

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are ways that the entire quote unquote journalism industry operate

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on behalf of or even you might say they direct

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the Democrat Party. Pro Publica as is the investigative arm

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of it, And it's fine and good to complain about it.

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That you should. It's egregiously shoddy work in the service

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of political aims at the expense of the truth. But

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it's also interesting to just knowe what's going on there.

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Major Democrat donors and Pro Publica was started by a

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major Democrat donor, but also gets funding from other big

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foundations and billionaires. They brought in in twenty twenty three

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fifty seven million dollars I think it was, which is

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a lot of money. Democrat donors gave that money because

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they wanted stories like the one that they were rewarded

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with a Pulitzer for if you think about what the

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Democrat agenda was in twenty twenty three. In twenty twenty four,

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they were upset that the unconstitutional Roe v. Wade had

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finally been overturned fifty years after it never should have

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even been authored and handed down. And their claim, and

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Hillary Clinton said this that year, was that women would die.

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Their problem was that no women died, and so they

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had to invent some. And so, even though this is

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a story about the dangerous abortion drug, which is very dangerous,

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which the media lie to you about because they serve

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Democrat talking points, followed up by incompetent medical care, they

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tried to make it a story about laws protecting women

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and children from abortion and it just was not accurate,

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but they didn't care. They just pushed it anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, in the business, in the journalism business,

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we have a sain called bearing the lead. Right, the

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lead is buried in the fifty seventh paragraph of this story.

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The only indisputable fact in this whole story is that

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the abortion pill caused complications that ended up killing this woman.

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That is, you cannot argue that fact. Everything else is shaded.

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Now we should also mention how this works. I think

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it anyway. You know, pro public. So there's some activist

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has this story and he starts pitching it or she

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starts pitching it to media. They start with the New

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York Times, and they work their way all the way

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down and at the very very very bottom is Pro

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public or maybe close to the bottom, because the New

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York Times mentions it as reported. Then the columnists that

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the New York Times, which I looked up, start talking

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about it. Then I see Axios mentions it and starts

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talking about how senators are going to have a blitz

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on emergency abortion care this week after the Pro public

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of reporting on the death of a Georgia woman, you know,

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and stuff like that. Kamala Harris mentions it in speeches.

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So that's the little game they play here. They did

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this often with Brett Kavanosmears as well. Someone would report

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something maybe I forget, you know, some lesser place. They're

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will lesser right now to me, but and then everyone

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else reports it. So and that's the little game they

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Speaker 2: Well done, well done, Yeah, yes and no, yes, that

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is the game that's played. But also Pro Publica brought

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in fifty seven million dollars in twenty twenty three. That's

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a lot of money to run your own operations. They

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don't publish that many stories in their twenty twenty three

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nine ninety. We don't have the one for twenty twenty

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four yet. I don't think they said that they spent

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their fifty seven million dollars, that thirty six million dollars

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went to their attacks. They're grossly unfair attacks on Justice

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Thomas and Justice Alito. By their own admission, they spent

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thirty six million dollars. David, if you had thirty six

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million dollars to go after two people, even two people

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as sort of incorruptible and nice, not that anyone's incruptible,

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but you know.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: Whistley clean as Alito and Thomas, imagine what you could

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do with that amount of money. You could pay reporters

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and editors an obscene amount of money, so you get

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like a higher quality of propaganda. You have research teams

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that can fan out all across the nation. I think

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the really interesting story about this pro public award for

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lying about abortion is that with the amount of money

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they had and the need to come up with just

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like three good stories about how Samuel Alito was killing

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people by properly stating the fact that the Constitution does

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not mention abortion and that therefore Roe v. Wade was

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illegitimate law, and they couldn't come up with one. They

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had to invent the one that they came up with.

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I mean, that's pretty interesting to me. I would have

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assumed they could have found something to spin better than

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the Amber Thurman story.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like, if your starting point is here's you know,

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let's find the here's the person or people were after,

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a difficult hill to climb. But I will say this also,

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just you can have an ideological point of view. I do,

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and still and you do, and a lot of people

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do and still be honest about your reporting. I just

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want to take credit. I don't usually take credit for things,

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but I did have this position. I think you had

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the same position. When Dobbs happened, Virtually every political expert

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told us that this abortion stuff was going to sink

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the GOP for a generation. It was going to destroy them.

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The presidency couldn't be one. Nothing could happen. They tried to,

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you know. I mean, and he deserves credit. Donald Trump

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deserves credit for putting judges in the right place and

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putting good judges in the right place, and that didn't happen.

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I mean, where's the Democratic Party now? Who's even talking

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about abortion anymore? You know? And people were just so

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mad at me for even daring to say that. I

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just don't think this is like the most important issue

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for people. Most people aren't one issue voters, right, And

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these stories they failed. They failed not just because they

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were poorly written, but because everyone knows that these laws

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aren't as draconian, and everyone says the Georgia law is

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a first trimester most most if you look at Poles

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and ask people by trimester trimester, most of them believe

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that abortion should be I believe nine hundred percent sure

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on this. So I think most people want restrictions after then,

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and that's what the Georgia law does. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So I think part of the problems for Democrats and

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their media. I think part of the problem was that

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they claimed that the Dobbs decision, rather than being just

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a master and constitutional jurisprudence, they said it was going

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to be an abortion nationwide. They presented that even after

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and so it's a classic case of crying wolf, I

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think where they overstated what was done. Now having said that,

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I wish people cared much more about abortion. The killing

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of unborn children is bad for obviously they're them, but

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also for their mothers and for family formation. And people

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are just kind of happy to just have the dab's

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decision and move on. But we should be working much

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harder to protect women and children from the violence of

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abortion and also helping create a society where that's not

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even like a thinkable option because women are so cared

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for by the men in their lives, and so you're

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right that it hasn't had huge political effects. But on

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the other hand, you know, just this week Trump, the

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Trump DOJ said that they were going to stick with

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the Biden DJs appro to all these challenges to related

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to the abortion drug that have been filed in Northern

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District of Texas and Missouri and other states. And so

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the Trump White House is acting as if it's a

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losing issue and not showing actually, the Trump DOJ and

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they're not doing what they should be doing properly to

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the abortion drug. So another win for Pro PUBLICA.

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Speaker 1: Well, this story is a good example of the dangers

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of that drug. You know, she had no not thousand

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had no supervision from a doctor, and this happened. And

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this is this is, you know, a dangerous thing. What

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is the organization called again, the e PPC.

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Speaker 2: EPPC, Yeah, they did, they some public policy center.

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Speaker 1: Right, they did this big, big investigation, this big study.

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room something like that. But it was it was not

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a nothing number and much.

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Speaker 2: Much higher than has been previously realized.

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Speaker 1: The Pro public Astore on numerous occasions stresses that there

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are rarely complications. It's very rare one point, extremely rare,

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but not as rare as they say, And that seems

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to be a bigger topic than this lie that doctors.

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saddest part about this piece. They claim that doctors didn't

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move forward because they were confused about the ambiguity of

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the abortion law, or they you know, they didn't want

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to get in trouble. The babies were already dead. There

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if you're actually reporting. So anyway, it was. It was

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a crappy story, sleazy story, because they use this woman,

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this poor woman's death to score a political point.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, David, I think that there's a time in

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people's lives when they think the Pulitzer is a prize

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given for good journalism, and then they grow up and

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they realize the Pulitzer is the prize given for propaganda. Occasionally,

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some other stuff slips through there to give it a

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veneer of credibility, but it's rare. And if you understand

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that the entire entity is for the purpose of pushing

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propaganda and doing bad journalism, you just view the recipients

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of the award very differently. You know, we should remember

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the people who uncritically pushed the Russia collusion hoax, while

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you and I were braving everybody to fight against it.

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They won Pulitzers, And even after the hoax was completely

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exposed as a hoax and everyone who helped push it

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was held up for ridicule, the Pulitzer board said, we

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relooked at their work, and we just think there's just

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nothing but good stuff there. And so if you take

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the Pulitzer Prize as meaning anything other than an award

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for Russia collusion hoax level propaganda, you're an idiot.

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Speaker 1: I think. Well, a few years back, a reporter named

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Pulitzer Prize and how often it was given to people

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who essentially submitted fraudulent journalism or fake news story or

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things that have been debunked later. I don't think, and

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any of those. The sixteen to nineteen Project one coverage

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of the COVID nineteen pandemic. I'm sure it's some kind

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of Russia collusion stuff also one, right, so it's obviously

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not anything like when I was young. Yeah, Pulitzer sounded

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really impressive, and maybe it was. I don't know, and

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obviously it's the opposite of that. Now, even though these

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you know, they love to congratulate themselves and have a

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little parties, but in reality, I don't think any I

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think they're just killing them their credibility, which eat with

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, David, you just mentioned Mark Hemingway and then

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you also just said you thought maybe the Russia coclusion

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hoax won a Pulitzer after I'd spent like five minutes

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talking about how the Russia coclusion hoaks went after And

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I just have to mention something. I love that men

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do this, and I think my husband is the greatest

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example of it. This week, we were going through the

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calendar for the summer, and I handle logistics because I'm

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a woman, and I think normally that's how it works,

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but like there's so much to juggle with the kids

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I was going through all of it and asking questions

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as we went, and after every single thing I said,

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Mark would be like, did you think about this? And

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it would be the thing I had just said. And

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and I wasn't even mad because it was so funny,

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Speaker 1: Let me explain something to you that just happened. First

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of all, I do that too, one hundred percent. Sometimes

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my wife is talking to me, and my mind is

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say that sometimes. And you do it too. I'm sure

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when the other is speaking, you try to find you

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could surprise you by lift your spirits, as it were,

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by mentioning your husband's name on the show. Oh, I

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love it. I apologize for that. Yeah, I'm going to

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leave this all in the show just because I did it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I hope.

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Speaker 1: So. Yeah, I deserve. I deserve all the emails that

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Speaker 2: So, speaking of left wing journalism and propaganda, are you

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upset about Trump trying to defund PBS and NPR. They

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get a little bit of their massive budgets. Some of

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it is given by taxpayers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, around eight to ten percent I think goes through

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some kind of taxpayer. It is called corporate Broadcasting Bill. No.

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I've been arguing for this for a long time, but

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for bringing it up. I think it's deeper than just bias.

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Like I get that the Executive Order focuses on bias,

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and I one hundred percent agree. Is obvious since it

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was formed that Democrats built this thing, Democrats run this thing,

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and it is The PBS and NPR basically been mouthpieces

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for like the mainstream left wing opinion in this country

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for a long time. Normalizing that kind of opinion and

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pushing it. That's fine. But even besides that, obviously it's

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an antiquated model. Right, we have a million choices. When

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mister Rogers gave his famous testimony in nineteen sixty nine

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to keep money going to PBS, you know, there were

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three stations in most places, maybe five. I grew up

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Speaker 2: And stuff like that television there, Yes.

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Speaker 1: It was, But Mike, by the time I had kids,

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you know, there were like three four stations just for

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kids that had well in this educational programming all over

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the place. So it's antiquated in that sense. But even

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more than that, I wrote this down somewhere. NPR right

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has twenty six million listeners every I guess month, a

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thousand stations. If they privatize and monetize themselves it'd be

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one of the biggest radio you know, and podcasting platforms

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in existence. Indeed, I think many of their podcasts are

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actually quite good and well produced and interesting. So there's

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no reason though that taxpayers should have to fund a

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company that's bigger than one I think radio you know, franchise.

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NPR's viewer, MPRS listeners, and PBS's viewers are largely upper

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middle class folks who have plenty of money to spend

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on these things themselves. There's no reason a poorer person

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or any kind of middle class version should have to

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pay so that someone doesn't have to, you know, pollute

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their eyeballs with a fast food commercial while they're watching

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sort of crusty British you know, melodramas or whatever. There's

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just no reason for it. So I think there's a

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bad case to be made for it.

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Speaker 2: There wouldn't be reason for it even if it provided.

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I mean, you just praised their podcasts and whatnot. But well,

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there has been some good radio programming or public television programming,

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a lot of it. The vast, vast fast Man right

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of it is pushing far left wing ideology that is

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antithetical to American founding ideas. I mean, you had the

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thing even where they put a trigger warning ahead of

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their reading of the Declaration of Independence, so they can't

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even read Founding documents without trashing them. They famously said

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that they wouldn't cover the Hunter Biden laptop because they

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didn't have time to waste on fake news. Of course

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that was not fake news, it was one hundred percent true.

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They're just Democrat propaganda. So it's bad enough. Yes, there's

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no reason for any media to be funded by the

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government right, particularly if it's left wing media. Though that

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is fighting the country and fighting the country's ideals, allis.

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Speaker 1: I mean other people might see that differently, but here's

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Speaker 2: Wait do you think I'm sorry? I just give the

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example of the declaration. How can you defend trash the

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Declaration of Independence as a pro American thing?

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Speaker 1: I don't, But I'm just saying that even if someone

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disagrees with you about the specifics, and I agree with

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you on this specific I think there are I think

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many of their the ideas they push are not an

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American and I have not that I listen all the time.

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Donald Trump didn't like and then Donald Trump threatened them

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or any president threaten to take away their funding, and

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then they acquiesced to that to modify that president, that's

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bad too. I don't want media involved with government. I

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don't want government being able to pressure media. I don't

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want media listening to government at all, just like I

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don't want censorship. And I'm just quickly back to NPR.

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You remember Uri Berliner I think was his name, as.

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Speaker 2: A reporter, like the editor who's like everybody else is

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even further left than I am.

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Speaker 1: He said there were eighty I think eighty registered Democrats

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on staff of the news staff of NPR and zero Republicans. Now,

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you're not going to get honest, good coverage if everyone

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agrees in a newsroom on everything. But that's their business,

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if their private it's not their business when we help

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pay for it. And part of the problem there is

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it keeps saying it's not a lot of money, but

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yet also we need the money. If it's not a

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lot of money, then why do we need to give

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it to you? Now? I don't know if Trump can

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do this through executive order. In the end, it is

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a bill, and at the end, as usual, Congress needs

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to do it. Who knows how we're going to do it.

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Speaker 2: Competent do you have to be as a member of

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Congress to not have taken care of this fifty years ago?

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It's just.

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Speaker 1: It's nowhere. They do nothing. There's not going to be

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any cuts in this budget. It's going to continue to grow.

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Speaker 2: Actually even on that. So one of the proposals in

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the Trump budget is about reforming Medicaid, which is a

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notoriously corrupt program that was massively bumped up under both

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Obama and Biden. It's not an entitlement program, and it's

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this major way that states and individuals kind of game

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programs for massive transfers of wealth. We have more transfers

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of wealth than like France does, you know. And we

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like to think of them as socialists.

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Speaker 1: And us not.

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Speaker 2: But like, the Republicans can't even handle that one. And

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you don't even have to do that much to save

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massive amounts of money. And all these Republicans who have

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claimed for so long that they are so good on

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financial issues even if they can't be trusted on anything else.

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That matters. They're like a wall on even just that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there are a wall on basically everything

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right now. And you know, I listen. I know there's

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a very slim majority in the House, right I get that,

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but at least push things so we can debate them

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and you know, bring it to the public's attention. Everything

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is just I mean I say this every episode. I mean,

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this is not how we envision governance, having the president

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do everything. And again, I think it's been an accumulation

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over numerous administrations, but that you know that we've gotten

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to this place, but it still shouldn't be this way.

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One last story on the media, or maybe we have more.

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I don't even know, but did you see this New

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Yorker piece on John Fetterman and how all the people

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around him are very, very concerned and upset about his

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mental health? Which is weird because many of those same

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people in that very story had vouch for his mental

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health right after he had a stroke and could barely

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cobble together a sentence. What do you think that's about?

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Speaker 2: Well, just as a casual observer of John Fetterman, what

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I mostly remember is when he was campaigning and he

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had the stroke, after he won the nomination, but before

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he won the Senate seat, a reporter came out and said, like,

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by the way, he can't talk, and everybody was livid

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with her for just saying the fact that this was

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like in the early days of the stroke, when he

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had people seen what was going on there, he would

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not have won the Senate seat. And they were so

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livid with her. And now he actually seems to be

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doing really, really well, Like when you encounter him on

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the hill or you see him on his interviews, he's

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he's certainly doing a much better job of communicating. And

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that's that's actually the problem, because what he's communicating is

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his belief that the Democrat Party is getting extreme. He

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thinks their views on Israel and the Palestinian conflict are horrific,

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and he even thought he might support Trump nominees in

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the way that Democrats used to like twenty years ago.

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And so they say that this is evidence that he's

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mentally unfit, and it's, you know, it's very interesting to read.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's it's weird. He's like from a faction of

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old time progressive before it became all race obsessed and

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stuff like that. So he's pro Israel. That seems to

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be I think Israel's mentioned twelve times. But also he's

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got a kind of populist sensibility from Pennsylvania where that

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matches up with Trump on some stuff. I mean, so

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he doesn't feel the need to constantly be anti Trump.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, you said it was New Yorker.

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It's New York Magazine.

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Speaker 1: New York Magazine, CIRN. Yeah, New York Magazine.

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Speaker 2: So there was one more thing I wanted to say

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about the Fetterman story. It begins with an anecdote from

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the chief of staff, the former chief of staff. By

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the way, the former chief of staff worked for Harry Reid.

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He never went public with anything bad about Harry Reid,

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even when Harry Reid knowingly lied and falsely claimed Mitt

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Romney had not paid taxes. It was a lie. He

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knew it was a lie, and later when he was

477
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confronted on it, he said, well, it worked, didn't it.

478
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And that chief of staff never said word one. He

479
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,720
goes running to New York Magazine and he doesn't just say, like,

480
00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:08,000
I'm concerned about Fetterman because he's too pro Israeli. He says,

481
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,519
he shares an email that he wrote to Fetterman's doctor

482
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,599
who was treating him for his severe depression. So do

483
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,920
you remember when Fetterman was hospitalized at Walter Reid for

484
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,279
severe depression? And it just goes through all these like,

485
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,599
you know, kind of embarrassing details, and to me that

486
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,440
is unseemly. I don't care if you don't like the person,

487
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,839
if you disagree with him politically, if you don't want

488
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:34,599
to work for them anymore. It's still, to me is

489
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private and I would not be able to live with myself.

490
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Speaker 1: You know.

491
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Speaker 2: I've worked with people where you do learn some things,

492
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,559
you know, and I just think that's that would be

493
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,640
so gross and low of me to go public like,

494
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particularly without good reason.

495
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also the whole part with his wife, essentially it

496
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,240
seems to me like she was the only person who

497
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,720
can actually tell this story. By the way, so she

498
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,759
is in a story. I don't know that for sure,

499
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:05,720
but it just seems to me that she would be

500
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able to tell the story about going behind her husband's

501
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:14,319
back to assure Aids that you know, he's essentially not

502
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,839
that well and that he doesn't really know what he's

503
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:19,000
talking about. When it comes to Israel. My favorite line

504
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:22,559
was that she's described by the reporter as a kind

505
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,400
hearted philanthropist. I would be upset, and I know it

506
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,559
would never happen if there was a story about me

507
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,759
and my wife's on there, you know, bad mouthing me

508
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,279
basically or undermining me.

509
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: I mean that even the story itself is about how

510
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,359
she publicly or you know, in a non private way.

511
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,759
You can imagine what Mark Hemingway has to deal with

512
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,200
being married to me and how much he has disagreed

513
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,039
with me at times. And he would never say something

514
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:56,119
publicly because he values our or even like privately to

515
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,839
people who shouldn't know or you know whatever, like even

516
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,279
you know, and I've worked with him, We've been in

517
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:07,160
social settings where I know he's not, you know, loving

518
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,319
something I'm saying. He'll just mention later, like hey, I

519
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:11,000
think you got out over your skis a little bit

520
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,759
too much there or something. Because he loves me, cares

521
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,960
for what's good, husband, and it's horrifying to see that

522
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,079
she went to his office screams at him because he

523
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,480
says that it's propaganda that Israel Is wantonly bombing refugee camps.

524
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:34,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It is. Loyalty is a huge part

525
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,480
of a marriage too. It's you know, like I mean,

526
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:41,000
it's the you know, I just I can't even fathom it.

527
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:44,680
That's the truth. I have something else that just popped

528
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,519
into my head, and maybe we discussed for a second.

529
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,000
Brian Stelter, or good friend at CNN, left and came back.

530
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:56,920
Did you see his post on the Constitution? Yes, so

531
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,359
he posts this piece and I'll just give you a

532
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,599
quick quote. Right now, newsrooms need to do a better

533
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,039
job of incorporating Constitution one and one into their news coverage.

534
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,319
And while we're at it, maybe school House Rocks needs

535
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:16,839
to make a comeback now for younger people's. Schoolhouse Rocks

536
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:19,039
were these I believe it was on ABC, but they

537
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:20,880
were these cartoons that taught you about the Bill of

538
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,720
Rights and how the government worked and all of this stuff. Now,

539
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:28,240
can you imagine the gall the gall of people who

540
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:33,920
spend years delegitimizing the Supreme Court that followed the Constitution,

541
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:42,519
sort of celebrating the executive abuses of both Obama and Biden,

542
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:49,000
just destroying the idea of separation of powers, you know,

543
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:53,640
celebrating the popular vote and majoritarianism and all these things

544
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,839
that are in America lecturing people at the Constitution. I

545
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,720
mentioned this online and people are like, oh, yeah, what

546
00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:02,240
about is? What about? No, it is completely legitimate to

547
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:05,279
hold people Listen. I don't forget, as you know, I

548
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,359
don't forgive anyone if I think they're undermining the Constitution,

549
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,359
and it's completely legitimate to hold people responsible for their opinions.

550
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,279
You can't keep going back and forth like this. It

551
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:15,960
doesn't work. And I don't believe for a second that

552
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:18,440
this guy or any of these people believe in the Constitution.

553
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,160
They've abdicated their responsibility as journalists to uphold the First Amendment. Oh,

554
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,920
I forgot, and they are pro censorship, so please leave.

555
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,440
You know, I'm losing it.

556
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,079
Speaker 2: No, that's what I wanted to focus on was CNN

557
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:40,359
has openly, proudly embraced attacks on the First Amendment. They

558
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:49,359
are like, insanely pro censorship. Brian Stelter's newsletter is a

559
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,839
pro censorship newsletter. It gets angry when people have the

560
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,799
freedom to that newsletter that's written by him. And then

561
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,119
he also had Oliver Darcy working for him, and then

562
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:01,160
Oliver Darcy took it over, and he's still praises Oliver Darcy,

563
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,960
who is a pro censorship radical. They support the entire

564
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,680
disinformation game. They want to suppress news and information and

565
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,039
debate from people who they don't agree with. And the

566
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,880
gall of this person to say, we should we should

567
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:22,440
have the media start caring about the Constitution. Please please

568
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,559
begin with the First Amendment, or begin with understanding what

569
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:27,839
the administrative state is. Do you remember it was CNN

570
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:30,480
before I worked at Fox. I was over at CNN

571
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:34,799
and had to explain to the panel something Trump had

572
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:38,599
said about taking on the administrative state in twenty seventeen

573
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,640
at the SEAPAC conference, and they were like, administrative state.

574
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,640
They thought it meant like secretaries. They literally did not

575
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:50,200
know what the term meant. So, yes, learn about the constitution.

576
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,000
Learn about how the administrative state is an unconstitutional fourth

577
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,720
branch of government. Learn about how you enabled them through

578
00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:59,480
your Russia collusion hoax and other things that you did

579
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,559
promoting the resistance, which is a resistance against the American

580
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:06,799
people and our constitutional order. But yeah, I would love

581
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:09,880
for the people at CNN to open up a Constitution

582
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:10,920
and try to read it.

583
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: It just hit me. I remember this years ago, writing

584
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,360
a piece about how CNN would put the term religious

585
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,440
freedom in quotation marks as it talked about a poor

586
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:26,320
baker in Colorado being destroyed by the state that didn't

587
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,239
like because he had committed a thought crime by being

588
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,039
a Christian. Basically, they are one of the worst offenders

589
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,280
in my view over the last whatever amount of years,

590
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,119
maybe a decade, you know, maybe more. Maybe since Obama

591
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:42,079
became president, who was who was the real norm breaker

592
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:46,639
of the past three presidents, he was the real norm break. Yeah,

593
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:52,000
I don't know. So CNN Ryan Stelter so annoying.

594
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:52,559
Speaker 4: You know.

595
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: The funny thing is we get all worked up and

596
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,239
no one really cares about CNN anymore. I mean, how

597
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,679
much sway do they really have? I mean, maybe we

598
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,800
need to keep the pressure on them, But how much

599
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,079
sway did they have with voters anymore? Probably very little.

600
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,519
Speaker 2: I was talking to someone who was preparing to go

601
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,079
on one of their programs and I was like, literally,

602
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:11,519
they have like one hundred thousand people watching. You don't

603
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:12,920
need to be nervous about this at all.

604
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,079
Speaker 1: Do we have anything else? Molly, what'd you think of

605
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,880
the idea of what'd you think of the idea of

606
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,639
Donald Trump to give a thousand dollars for any immigrant

607
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:26,239
legal immigrant that self deports I like it.

608
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: I said it on Special Report last night that Mitt

609
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,079
Romney did not have was not known for having many

610
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:36,320
good policy ideas, but self deportation was one of them.

611
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:39,920
And when you're dealing with tens of millions of illegal

612
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,440
immigrants in the country, and you think about how difficult

613
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:47,880
it is to seize an illegal immigrant and to put

614
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,039
them through the courts, when you've got these left wing

615
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,559
activist judges who were trying to do everything to thwart

616
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,239
the Trump agenda, or you could pay them a thousand

617
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,039
dollars and they leave on their own. To me, it's

618
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:02,960
just a great option. And there will be many things

619
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,719
that we have to do to get control of our

620
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,480
country and our borders. This is one of them, and

621
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:08,239
it's a good one.

622
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: So I liked it. Yeah, I'm always for policy solutions

623
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,440
that incentivize people to do things right. For money. I mean,

624
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:22,079
I think one thousand dollars probably saves you twenty thirty

625
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:25,639
one hundred thousand dollars of finding or a million. I

626
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:27,480
don't know how much cost to find in illegal Let's

627
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:28,119
amends leus.

628
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:30,159
Speaker 2: We pay for the flights, but even so, it's still

629
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,400
much cheaper. And I hope it is one of the

630
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,719
many things that works.

631
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: Hopefully people will many people will do it. It's better

632
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,559
for them not to be here illegally and have to

633
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,519
live with the fear of being deported in all these

634
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:47,519
things and just go back home. People. Yeah, people say

635
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:51,239
it's so fascistic and it's so immoral, and what would

636
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,039
Jesus say in this and that. I just I don't know.

637
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,119
I'm not a theologian, but I do know that we

638
00:36:57,199 --> 00:36:59,039
have to follow the laws. If we can't just choose

639
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:01,639
which laws we follow, that's just how it is.

640
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 2: Well, everyone, everyone should be treated well. Yeah, but that

641
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,519
does not mean that everyone is allowed to like rape

642
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:10,559
and pillage a country.

643
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,559
Speaker 1: Like even those who come here for good reasons, they

644
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:15,639
still broke the law. I mean, I want to treat

645
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:16,320
them humanly.

646
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: But it's not just the breaking of the law, although

647
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,679
that is the massive, big thing. The violations of rule

648
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,039
of law through the illegal immigration complex that nearly everyone

649
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,800
in the elite levels of leadership have either pushed or

650
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,480
acquiesced to. That is massive. But it's also true that

651
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:38,719
we have communities to take care of each other. And

652
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,639
there is the issue of your nearest neighbor versus your

653
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:47,079
furthest neighbor. Like you have a home for you and

654
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:50,039
your wife and your kids. That does not mean that

655
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:52,559
you're rude to everyone who doesn't live with you. But

656
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:54,480
it also doesn't mean that you open up your home

657
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:56,960
to a bunch of people who don't live with you.

658
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,920
You know, and you want to be generous and kind,

659
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,480
but we also have laws for a reason of being

660
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:08,159
generous and kind to everyone. And it's not just like,

661
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,840
you know, it's not like everyone who's an illegal immigrant

662
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,039
is also a murderer, but it's still a burden on

663
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:19,679
the education system, the health system, the transportation system.

664
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 4: You know.

665
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,599
Speaker 2: People always like to talk about the benefits associated with

666
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,519
illegal immigration without at all thinking about the costs and

667
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,760
how they're born by local communities, and so there is

668
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,280
an order, and in Christianity we have an order to things,

669
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,519
and taking care of your closest neighbor and then moving

670
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:40,559
out from there is like the proper order that begins,

671
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:42,360
you know, from creation all the way on.

672
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: And if we destroy the system that we have that

673
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,519
has been so generous and letting people come here legally,

674
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:50,559
they're not going to be able to come anymore. And

675
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:53,039
that's going to be worse for more people. Right, it's

676
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:57,000
the same reason I think supporting Fifth columnists who love

677
00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:59,360
Hamas and hate and our bigots and hate their own

678
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,960
neighbors here or don't need to be here, because in

679
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,559
the end they're going to hurt people more than help.

680
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:09,559
So you know, it's just how we conduct and a society.

681
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:13,000
It's never been different for successful societies.

682
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: All right, culture, Sure I have ohm I going first, Okay, sure, yeah, yeah,

683
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,400
of course I don't have much. But I did go

684
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,920
see Divo this weekend, oh right, Yeah, And despite being

685
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,360
such a big fan of Divo for such a long time,

686
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:34,440
I'd never seen them perform. It was at the Anthem

687
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:37,360
in DC, and it was a great show. They put

688
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,559
on a great show, and they cannot be young, like

689
00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:43,559
it was the they called it the fiftieth anniversary thing,

690
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:47,760
I think, but they also kept putting like nineteen seventy

691
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,239
two to twenty twenty two or nineteen seventy three. I

692
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,000
think it was so there. It's more than fifty years,

693
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:57,960
so they've got to be in their late sixties or seventies.

694
00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:04,119
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, So it looks like Mark Mother's bile is

695
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:04,760
seventy four.

696
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:07,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean they had like a lot of

697
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,639
energy and it was a great visual show and fun,

698
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,679
and I did feel there's that thing when you go

699
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:17,320
to a show when it's a band you really like

700
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,360
or that you identify with, and then you realize that

701
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,880
you're with your people, but you don't necessarily like those

702
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,639
people or you know, it's just like it's.

703
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: All the people in the crowd, not the people you

704
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:28,239
went to the show with.

705
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were a lot of people who had

706
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:33,039
spent sixty dollars on flower pot hats and I was like, hmmm,

707
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:35,599
like I like it, but I don't like it.

708
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:40,079
Speaker 1: I don't know. People don't think about music this much, probably,

709
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:42,920
but I don't know if they realized how weird Divo

710
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,119
was in probably nineteen seventy five or six when they

711
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,599
first started like awarding music, yeah, because yeah, when the

712
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:52,199
new wave stuff hit, they probably fit in okay, but

713
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they were they predated that, and they were really weird.

714
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There's some interesting stuff online if you're really into music,

715
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where you can watch them performing in like seventy four

716
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and five and stuff, and they're so out of step

717
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and weird, you know what I mean. Yeah, I've always

718
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sort of been a fan, but.

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Speaker 2: Good backing band. And the other thing that Mark and

720
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I think is interesting is that it used to be

721
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you would go to a show, and first of all,

722
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the shows weren't that expensive because they were really a

723
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means by which you were drawn to music so that

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you would buy the albums because that's how they made

725
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all of their money. But now shows are super expensive,

726
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so they're only the only people whould tender old people,

727
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,320
and the merchandise is so expensive, and they also start

728
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promptly on time, and there's no opening act, which is

729
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,559
just so different. Like when we were kids would go

730
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and it would be like you'd learn about the opening

731
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act that you'd never heard heard of before, and it

732
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,519
would be really exciting, and there might be three opening

733
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acts and then the band would stumble on stage, you know,

734
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:58,599
three hours after the doors opened, and you know, blow

735
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:00,880
the roof off. That is not the case. And also

736
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because I think, like we just said, the people are

737
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getting old. Mark mothers Bo's seventy four. He does not

738
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:07,360
want to start the show at ten. He wants to

739
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be done by ten.

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Speaker 1: So that's nice, it's exciting.

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Speaker 2: Anything else, Well, let me think, but did you have

742
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you seen anything or done?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a double I have two shows or

744
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,719
one show one movie I watched. The movie I watch

745
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,159
is called Havoc and it stars Tom Hardy and Timothy Olephant,

746
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and I did not enjoy it. It's kind of like,

747
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,679
I don't know, almost like a martial arts movie about

748
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,880
the drug lords and stuff. And I just I have

749
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to say I'm a big Tom Hardy fan, but I

750
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don't particularly love when he does accents American accents. I

751
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think they're pretty pretty weak. Then on Paramount Plus, which

752
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:53,519
I've got for the first time and have all these

753
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:57,679
new shows, I watched mob Land with Tom Hardy, which

754
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I thought was excellent, which I think is excellent. I mean,

755
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,079
it's violent and all that. If you're not into that stuff,

756
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:05,679
don't watch it. But Pierce Brasnan is in it. He's

757
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,960
like the patriarch of the crime family. And his wife

758
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:12,760
is Helen Mirren, who's a psychopath in it. And it's

759
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,159
got a bunch of actors I like who I've seen

760
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:19,800
in other British shows I think do a real good job,

761
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and it is it's directed by the guy who did

762
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Guy Ritchie, who's really good at doing sort of British

763
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crime stuff, and so I enjoyed it. I recommend it. Okay,

764
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that's it for me.

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Speaker 4: Well, I remember my friend who said that listening to

766
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us talk about culture is like being with her parents

767
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when nobody knows the name of anything.

768
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Speaker 2: So I saw for the two hundredth time Ten Things

769
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,000
I Hate About You, which I think is a wonderful

770
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:58,440
Shakespearean adaptation.

771
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Speaker 1: A sequel to see that how, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know I'm talking about the heath Ledger Julia Stiles.

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Speaker 1: I could I could swear that I just saw in

774
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the news that they were making a sequel. I think

775
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,960
I read it in the New York Post.

776
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Speaker 2: But you know, okay, Well, I think it's a great adaptation,

777
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,679
although it's super like inappropriate in ways if you are

778
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:27,400
thinking about watching it with kids. But Julia styles it's

779
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,079
a Taming of the Shrew mm hm thing, and I

780
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:32,039
love it. And I think it's funny and stupid and

781
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,400
very nineties or early adds. I don't know, it's the

782
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:39,159
music is very stuck in that. But I enjoyed that.

783
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And then I can't remember if I mentioned this or

784
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,119
not what week this was, but Mark and I had

785
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:50,119
tried to start watching various TV shows that I kept

786
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:53,280
mixing but now I don't remember their names too so

787
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:57,440
except that one of them was your Friends and Neighbors

788
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:57,920
with John.

789
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Speaker 1: Oh. Yeah. I started watching that myself and.

790
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Speaker 2: It was just too like sexually explicit for me and stuff.

791
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Speaker 1: So I just was like, I didn't think it was

792
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,360
very good. I didn't think it was very funny. It

793
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:10,920
was going nowhere. I quit after like an episode and

794
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,320
a half.

795
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Speaker 2: Now there was one that we just started, but I

796
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,320
don't know the name of it at all, except that

797
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,119
it has Billy Bob Thornton in it.

798
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Speaker 1: Maybe the one on Amazon where he's like a private

799
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:21,960
eye kind of thing.

800
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Speaker 2: He's a lawyer. He's like an alcoholic lawyer in Santa Monica,

801
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:31,800
And I did kind of like it, although it has

802
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,400
all of the same problems Goliath.

803
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Speaker 1: Right, I watched some of that Goliath called Goliath.

804
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: I thought it was a newer show than Next that's

805
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,079
been around for a while.

806
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: Landman or Goliath. Those are the two. Oh, maybe it

807
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:45,880
was a newer one.

808
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,079
Speaker 2: I don't know what is Goliath about.

809
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: I think he's a lawyer in it. Maybe that's a

810
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,599
powerful lawyer plays one powerful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, okay cool? Now I know the name

812
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,320
had no idea it was that.

813
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: By the way, Ten Things I Hate About Dating is

814
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,119
in the works as a feature film. The director of

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Ten Things I Hate about You, Gil Younger, says, so

816
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I'm sure it's going to be Toto sounds terrible. Great.

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We'll both try to watch something this week or maybe

818
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go to a concert, so we'll have something to talk about.

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