WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.280 It's time for coffee and company fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:06.080 Sports Talk seven ninety. 3 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:07.599 Holy crap, I don't know. 4 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:09.919 Who the hell we think when we are get off 5 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:11.560 our show, idiot. 6 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:14.320 The kids are playing to tailt countries. 7 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:16.839 Are screwing it up. Gold play Inner Murals, Brother, gold 8 00:00:16.879 --> 00:00:18.079 Play Inner Murals. 9 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:21.199 They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 10 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:22.960 Who's the kid here? 11 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:24.839 Who's the kid here? 12 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:25.800 Are you kidding me? 13 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:26.719 Now? 14 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:35.960 Here's Nick Coffee? 15 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:41.000 All right, Happy Friday, everybody, welcome in coffee and company 16 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:44.920 fuel Bututh Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick Coffee, 17 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:50.479 the travel chief himself, Austin Montgomery alongside as we will 18 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:52.759 take you up till six o'clock on day two of 19 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:55.200 the two day stretch that I believe is the best 20 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:58.240 two days in all of sports. And I am here 21 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:02.640 to tell you at three oh one that despite yesterday's emotional, 22 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:07.000 really celebration of life for that team that we love 23 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:08.359 so much, that came to an end. 24 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:09.920 You know, that was a bummer. 25 00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:14.319 But I'm feeling really good today. And I don't know, 26 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:17.079 and we'll never know, I guess, and I'm sure a lot. 27 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:20.719 Of you don't give a damn. But I have. 28 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:26.040 Already kind of processed what played out yesterday, and I mean, 29 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.680 I still I'm not happy that it happened, but I 30 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:31.480 just have a feeling about this team in this season 31 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.120 that even though it did fall short of what a 32 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.599 lot of people expected, and even though you know, the 33 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:42.359 seed line was certainly questionable, even who you played, their 34 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:46.319 seed line was certainly questionable. I just I think that 35 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:50.879 it being such a nice jolt of life for us 36 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:55.040 as Louisville basketball fans as well as just even though 37 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.760 they did fall short and didn't play great and could 38 00:01:57.760 --> 00:01:59.719 have played better, but I think we all know deep 39 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:03.599 down Creighton was better, and to look at this season 40 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:07.599 and this team specifically, even yesterday's game alone, it's just 41 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:10.199 hard for me to have those feelings of, Man, I'm 42 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:13.520 so disappointed. I mean, I'm disappointed in the result and 43 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:16.400 that it's over, but I don't I still feel nothing 44 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:19.240 but love for this team overall. And we went on 45 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:22.039 the airs shortly after the game ended. I mean it 46 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.599 was basically almost right after it ended. So I played 47 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:28.159 some sound for you yesterday. Pat Kelsey talking about his 48 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:31.919 technical foul as well as Terrence Edward Junior just talking 49 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:34.240 about kind of what this season meant for him in 50 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:36.919 his one year at Louisville, and then you know, I 51 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:39.120 got to hear a lot more of it after the fact, 52 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:44.599 and it just it just solidified what I thought what happened, meaning, 53 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.439 no matter what happens in the tournament, gonna be hard 54 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:50.319 for me to not have a great appreciation for the 55 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:55.159 season as well as these guys who not only helped 56 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:58.400 us come back to life and put together a successful season. 57 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:00.479 And look, you could talk about, well, what did it mean? 58 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.439 The ACC stinks, you know, and you're right, the ACC 59 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:06.680 does stink, but it also kind of worked out well 60 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:10.759 for us because we won a lot of games. A 61 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.759 lot of games. I mean in twenty twenty five, Louisville 62 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:19.280 went I mean they lost one game. I mean when 63 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:23.280 January started, Louisville lost to Georgia Tech to Duke, and 64 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:25.000 then I guess the third game would have been yesterday. 65 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:26.960 So it's not even about like, you know, how good 66 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:31.000 was Louisville Really, I honestly don't care, because we took 67 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:34.000 advantage of the league being what it was, and who knows, 68 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:35.800 maybe if the league was better, Louisville still would have 69 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:38.960 had the same record. We'll never know, but I think 70 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:43.439 it's two things. One, just the circumstance surrounding like our 71 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.159 whole last three four years for Louisville. But I think 72 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.560 the reason I'm here twenty four hours removed from devastation 73 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:52.319 and feeling good. I mean, there's a lot of things. One, 74 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:54.960 I love the NTAA Tournament, but also you know, like 75 00:03:55.800 --> 00:04:00.120 I had to learn how to enjoy these two days 76 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:03.680 without a team even in the field for six straight years. 77 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:08.080 And I guess in twenty seventeen Louisville did enter the 78 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:09.599 Big Dance with expectation. 79 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:10.599 You were a two seed, had. 80 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.960 Donovan, Mitchell, Ray Spaulding, Ding Adel q Snyder. I mean 81 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:16.399 that Jalen Johnson, that team should have gone further, to 82 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:20.240 be honest with you. But nonetheless, like the six year drought, 83 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.120 I didn't even know this until yesterday, Louisville missing the 84 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:27.959 tournament six straight years. It matched the longest drought they've 85 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:31.759 ever had with the tournament appearance. And I think the 86 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:33.839 last time they did it was in the fifties, and 87 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.800 then they only put sixteen teams in the field, So 88 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.399 like making the tournament wasn't any I mean, it was 89 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:46.000 they put sixteen teams in so without really fully realizing 90 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.519 it in the moment, I just we had to get 91 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:51.800 used to just enjoying an experience. Maybe enjoying is not 92 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:56.199 the same thing, but like experiencing college Basketball's tournament without 93 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:59.519 Louisville in it, like it or not, it six years 94 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:01.279 without it all make you just at least get used 95 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:03.720 to not having it. So everything that led up to 96 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:06.600 yesterday was great. The result, of course, was not. But 97 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:09.839 I still think I mean, I mean, it's nice to 98 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:12.360 be able to know that despite it being over, you 99 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.959 clearly we're ahead of sched you are ahead of schedule, 100 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:18.839 and there's a lot of reason to be optimistic and 101 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:22.279 excited about the future of Louisville basketball. 102 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:23.600 All right again, it's coffee and company. 103 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:26.439 Feel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety What 104 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:31.279 a day we have had thus far and yesterday overall. 105 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:34.240 I mean, I think right now, the biggest takeaway I 106 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:38.480 have as we speak at three to oh six is 107 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:40.959 that we are roughly I mean, there's still many games 108 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:44.279 to take place later today. I mean, we've got so 109 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:48.199 first days in the books. You've had three games. I 110 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:51.920 guess only only two games have concluded, it looks like, 111 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:54.600 why are they not showing the bag? 112 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:55.079 Yeah, so. 113 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.600 One game is over and that's Baylor Mississippi State and 114 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:04.360 Alabama just won, and then you've got other games that 115 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:07.279 are you know, ongoing. You know, we're about to start. 116 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.720 So we're at least like sixty to sixty five percent 117 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:14.480 of the way through the round of sixty four and 118 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:18.000 we have no Cinderella yet. And that's not a bad thing, 119 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:20.560 I don't think. But I'm looking at the rest of 120 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:24.000 this of the these you know, of the of the day, 121 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:27.439 and I don't know if we're going to get it all. Still, 122 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:29.399 let me ask you this, what would you classify as 123 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:30.120 a Cinderella? 124 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.199 Like what would you say? Is like, oh, can you 125 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:33.600 believe it? 126 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:35.079 Because I feel like it's got to be like a 127 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:38.319 fourteen seed thirteen. 128 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:40.560 To sixteen, right, you know. I was going to ask, like, well, 129 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:43.519 what do you consider Cinderella? But like, are we really considering, 130 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:47.439 like these states a twelve seeds really a Cinderella anymore? 131 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:49.279 Maybe if they go like to the eight seed. But 132 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:52.720 I think the term Cinderella has been overused to where 133 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:56.000 it now has to be a fourteen or above to 134 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:58.560 really shock you, because no one's shocked by the thirteen 135 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:02.360 or or maybe even the twelve winning, so Queens will 136 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:05.160 get to the fourteens. And McNeice is a good is 137 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:06.759 a good I think. 138 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:09.120 I mean, they're clearly the biggest upset as far as 139 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:12.000 seed line thus far in the tournament, but they're not. 140 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:14.399 I mean, they're they're They're coached by Will Wade, who 141 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.240 built his team with a lot of guys who've already 142 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.240 played either in a tournament game or for a power program. 143 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:21.959 So technically they're. 144 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.399 The biggest upset, but I don't think they like the 145 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:26.920 fact that they've been on the radar for the last 146 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:29.839 couple of years because of the Will Wade situation. Certainly, 147 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:32.399 they pulled off a big win, and they are the 148 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:34.959 biggest upset thus far, but I don't feel like I mean, 149 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.720 I didn't see a ton of people predicting Clemson to 150 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:39.680 lose that game, But I don't believe it's because they 151 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:41.399 were confident in Clemson. I think it was because they 152 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:43.879 just assumed, well, this guy's already taken a job elsewhere, 153 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.720 so they're gonna, you know, mail it in. But as 154 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:48.759 I expected yesterday, I mean, I don't know if I 155 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:51.800 mentioned yesterday the day before, I think that the Will 156 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:56.199 Wade situation, it played out well for these guys because 157 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.720 with where we are now in college basketball, Will Wade, 158 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:01.720 like he actually has said it, he's done a lot 159 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:03.399 of interviews and he's been made it clear like he's 160 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:05.959 leaving McNeese State. Clearly they know that by now. But 161 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:08.720 as far as the players, it's not a level of devastation. 162 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.079 I can't believe this guy's bailing on us. He sold 163 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:14.920 them on this, He sold his guys come here show, 164 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.319 and you know, if I don't leave, you're gonna do 165 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:19.879 well enough where you can go to a Power five. 166 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:22.920 If I do well enough, we'll ride together. And you 167 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:25.160 can tell that like that's the like, there's not any 168 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:28.720 level of distraction or sadness from the program. Now the fans, 169 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:30.199 it's a different story. And I don't even know how 170 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:33.360 many McNeese State fans are out there, but I'm just saying, like, with. 171 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:35.440 All that said that that is. 172 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:38.559 The biggest upset, but also feel like there are reasons 173 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:41.720 for it being different. I think had McNee State been 174 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:43.840 who they are and they and there wasn't the component, 175 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:45.320 which I guess that would kind of take it away. 176 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:47.440 They were the popular pick, though I've heard a lot 177 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:47.559 of it. 178 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:48.279 Yeah, they were. 179 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.279 And the reason that it didn't didn't get as much 180 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:52.000 hype as you would have expected is because there were 181 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.200 people thinking, well, hey, this team has nothing to play for. 182 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:57.679 Their coach is already gone. But again, when you and 183 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:00.639 that's what you mean, if you are coaching in a 184 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:07.360 lower level conference, I mean maybe even like true mid major, right, 185 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:12.159 like mid major is Dayton and the mid majors that 186 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:16.480 have had success, are their coaches comfortable enough to sell 187 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:21.919 come here, use us to go higher because you've done 188 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:25.480 enough in your history as a program to where those 189 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.000 things can happen with you, right like Dayton's made Elite 190 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.879 eight Sweet sixteen's Saint Mary's. I don't really know how 191 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:34.360 far they've gone on the tournament, but they've been successful, right, 192 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.919 I mean, I just think that if you were, you know, 193 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:42.600 if you just if you're just trying to sell a 194 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:44.240 kid on why they should come to you at a 195 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:48.200 high school, it should be hey, you're going to get 196 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.200 opportunity here and where you think you can play. Right now, 197 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.200 they're not going to give a freshman an opportunity because 198 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:57.799 you're not a McDonald's American, So come here and you 199 00:09:57.879 --> 00:10:00.240 will use this as a platform to go off for 200 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.799 seventeen a night and then you'll get that interest like 201 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:04.919 that would be a wise thing to do. But then again, 202 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:08.440 coaches are basically realizing I'm renting players. But you also 203 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:10.759 have to realize where you stand on the food chain, 204 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:14.080 so you know, overall, I just think McNeese State is 205 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:16.840 a good example of like where we are right now in. 206 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:20.519 College basketball, because well, Wade, he'd be a fraud to try. 207 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:23.120 To act like it to his team that he's not 208 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:24.399 going to get out of there as soon as he 209 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:26.399 can for a good job, and it sounds as if 210 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:28.559 it's already done. He's going to den Cea State, And 211 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.360 I wouldn't be shocked if a handful of those players, 212 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.679 maybe more than a handful, end up following him de 213 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.039 NC State, which same thing happened like last night Drake 214 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:41.080 beat Missouri. Missouri never led in that game, really never 215 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.000 felt like they were gonna win, like they trailed the 216 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.559 whole time. And Drake is built off of Ben McCollum's 217 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.799 D two team. They're four starters. Four of their five 218 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:52.000 starters are guys who started for him at the D 219 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:55.679 two level last year, and I mean, we're seeing it 220 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:58.080 right before our eyes. Drake's an example, and I think 221 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.039 McNeice is an example of Look, if you want to 222 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:04.879 at least get there and have a chan because coaches 223 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:06.960 can use this too, right, like if you are building 224 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.840 your roster with like because here's the thing. 225 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:11.720 If you are able. 226 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:16.519 To sort of I guess, exist and thrive in this 227 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:19.320 world where you have a good player at the mid major, 228 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:22.600 they're leaving right because they're gonna get more money. If 229 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.759 you can just at least accept that and embrace kind 230 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:27.480 of where you stand in the mix of it to 231 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.080 where hey, I'm gonna turn over my roster more than 232 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:32.480 anybody because we're gonna have good players. We're gonna be 233 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:33.320 good and they're gonna leave. 234 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:33.879 Well. 235 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:35.960 I feel like you being able to showcase that you 236 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:38.840 are able to do that and still succeed that would 237 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.480 make I think a higher level job be more attracted 238 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:43.600 to you as a coach because they realize, Hey, in 239 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:47.799 this ever changing landscape, this guy's already he's already had 240 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:49.600 to deal with it and he's still succeeding. 241 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:50.679 And who knows. 242 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:53.159 You know, if you're at Akron and you're losing your 243 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:57.000 best player to a high level program via the transfer portal, 244 00:11:57.159 --> 00:12:00.000 makes total sense. Well, if that same players is played 245 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.240 for that coach at a Power five job, there's going 246 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.960 to be more resources to where they're they're more inclined 247 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:09.360 to stay. So I don't know, that's an observation I've 248 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:12.080 made within the first day, and some change of the 249 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:14.440 tournament that you know just stands out to wear it. 250 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:17.559 Because again, in any other situation, had will Wade not 251 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:20.679 been the Will Wade we knew from his previous stints 252 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:23.879 at bcun LSU and as well as you know him 253 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:26.399 in those strong ass offers, if he was just some 254 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:29.039 up and comer, I think it would have been devastating 255 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:31.759 to those guys that play for Nicknice because they'd be thinking, 256 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:36.360 oh man, he sold us on us and the dream, 257 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:39.480 and now he's leaving us. The guys who were playing 258 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.799 for Will Wade, who had a thirty one to thirteen 259 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:46.159 lead against Clemson yesterday, they came there knowing the situation. 260 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:49.200 They were well aware of what was going on. 261 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:53.200 Right other than that, I mean outside of I mean, 262 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:57.919 if you look at yesterday's results, I mean I get 263 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:02.639 I mean Michigan had a close call against UC San Diego, 264 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:06.759 but they pulled it out Texas Tech. They won by 265 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:11.279 double digits. I mean, I think, honestly the biggest. I mean, 266 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:14.159 I guess technically eleven over six as an upset, but 267 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:15.919 like I picked, I picked Drake to go to the 268 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:20.600 Sweet sixteen because Missouri, among a few other teams that 269 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:23.679 have already lost, I can't say they didn't belong in 270 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:26.320 the tournament because the resume is what it is. But 271 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:28.399 I mean I talked about it for at least the 272 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.840 last couple of weeks. The SEC is the best league, 273 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.240 the deepest league, deserved the most teams in the tournament. 274 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.960 But there were teams that, you know, got a seed 275 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:39.679 that was that was influenced by their affiliation with the league. 276 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:41.519 And I'm not even saying it's because of like, hey, 277 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:43.240 we're just gonna give them the benefit of the doubt, 278 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.960 because of the of their league. The formulas, the numbers 279 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:50.320 gave them the benefit of the doubt because they just 280 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:53.519 simply had You know, if you have no bad losses 281 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:55.799 and you did steal some wins against the really good teams, 282 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:58.960 you're gonna be fine. But the SECS, in my opinion 283 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:02.159 right now, the teams that are the most dangerous in 284 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:05.879 the NCAA Tournament from the SEC, it's Florida number one. 285 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:10.159 I'm still including Auburn, and I would say Tennessee just 286 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:13.639 based off of their pedigree, but they've also proven to 287 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.039 be vulnerable everybody else outside of that, like, any loss 288 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:22.120 wouldn't shock me for them. I mean, Missouri down. They 289 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:27.399 never had a lead against Drake Baylor, played with their 290 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:30.159 food a little bit and made it closer than it 291 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:34.039 needed to be, but they beat Mississippi State, Texas lost 292 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:37.159 in the first four. Who else is it? I feel 293 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:41.639 like there's another the SEC is of now it looks 294 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:44.519 like it's four and four. I don't know where the 295 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:46.080 other losses are, and we got time to. 296 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:47.240 Get through it throughout the day. 297 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:49.840 But in no way am I saying the SEC was 298 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:53.519 a fraud and completely overrated. But there were big differences 299 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:56.360 in all of the of the fourteen that got in, 300 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:58.519 and I think there were wide gaps as well. 301 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.159 So let's do this. 302 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:05.120 Let's get to our first break a little earlier than usual, 303 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:08.080 because one, I do need to do a better job 304 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:13.440 of clock management right keeping us on track. Also clock management, okay, 305 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:15.919 but also I gotta get a bed in real quick 306 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:20.679 before before oh before I lose I lose the ability 307 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:23.759 to lock in at what we're getting. So that's that's 308 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:27.080 really the biggest series. Yeah, all right, stick with us. 309 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:30.080 We'll take you up till six o'clock and we're enjoying 310 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:33.039 day two here of the round of sixty four. It's 311 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:44.480 Coffee and Company fuel about Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. 312 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:43.720 I'm knocking my door. I'm going this fool in the club. 313 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.279 I don't see it before Freedom. 314 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.519 Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 315 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:53.120 Sports Talk seven nine day. 316 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.720 I don't know this song, but is that John Cena? 317 00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:01.759 It sure is the hell seen a spit bars Sons 318 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:04.879 just like New Old what he actually came out with 319 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:07.159 like a rap album back in like two thousand and 320 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.799 six seven when he got like his first big push, 321 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:11.679 and this is on there always of course you know. 322 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:13.320 Your boy, but what reminds you this song? 323 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.759 Uh, it kind of just started making waves a little bit, 324 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:20.399 like in the wrestling community because apparently someone that was 325 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:23.399 really close to John Cena's like friend the producer on 326 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:27.120 this whole album, the trademark was said that someone had 327 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:30.600 pulled up to him because he uh put it put 328 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.720 held him at endpoint because they were he was sleeping 329 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:34.240 with his. 330 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.240 With that dude's ex. Yeah, that'll do it. 331 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:39.200 And that ax happened to be an old ov w 332 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:41.960 alum and someone that's really big in the wrestling. 333 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:42.960 What's her name? 334 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:47.600 It's Victoria, Oh, Lisa Marie. I think I think it's 335 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:50.320 so yeah, Victoria is really really huge. And that's just 336 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:52.799 like speculation. I don't know if it's true, but it 337 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:54.679 seems like it all played back that I guess that 338 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:55.360 guy just went. 339 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:57.600 On and that's and that's how that world works is 340 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:00.759 when you truly can see both sides of it potentially 341 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.759 being a work or it being not sure. 342 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:06.000 That's what gets every side. 343 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:08.079 So it gets all sides, you know, kind of thinking, 344 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:10.400 you know, interested to kind of because they want to know, 345 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:12.480 like I'm intrigued is this? You know? 346 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:16.000 So anyways, good stuff. I love when you play. 347 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:19.839 Songs that like nobody knows what it is or a 348 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:21.960 lot of people wouldn't because then because people are like 349 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:24.200 wait a second, like I kind of you know. The 350 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.160 one thing that really really sucks for us is that 351 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:30.559 we can't have any music on the podcast, Yes, because that. 352 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.200 Like hate character on the show. 353 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:37.880 Yes, yes, And I hate to act as if you know, 354 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:42.400 the show is dependent upon the thirty seconds of audio 355 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.079 you hear when we come back from break, but it, 356 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.039 you know, sometimes it leads a segment, which that's what 357 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:50.839 I think is the best I mean at best radio. 358 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:53.920 Well, and that's and that's where Talk radio Live is. 359 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:58.400 In a different realm than what you get from a podcast, 360 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:02.079 is that there's at least element of you know, I 361 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.200 shouldn't say better or worse, but when you are live 362 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:07.279 like there, it's there's it's a different listen I. 363 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:08.359 Think, you know what I mean. 364 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:11.920 So oh absolutely, So with that said, when we do 365 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:14.240 end up kind of you know, taking conversations in a 366 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.880 certain direction for the most part, you know, you could 367 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:22.240 be a podcast listener and here hear our conversation and 368 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.240 and and be totally you know, know what we're talking about, right, 369 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:27.200 like you don't have to necessarily hear it. But then like, 370 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.559 as I'm just thinking about podcast listeners right now. 371 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:32.160 Who who are thinking? 372 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:34.240 Okay, well he talked about a John Cena song but 373 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:36.559 I didn't hear it. But anyways, it's coffee and company. 374 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:38.680 We're feel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety 375 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:41.279 and at coffee that's me. We've got the travel chief 376 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:45.319 in the house as always, and we've got a close 377 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.359 game here between Memphis and Colorado State. So I have 378 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.519 a three leg parlay riding. First two legs are complete. 379 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:55.720 I had Baylor money line as an underdog, slight underdog. 380 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:57.960 I had Ioways State to cover. I didn't take the 381 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:01.519 I just I looked at the Atlantic which is where 382 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:04.839 Lipscom played, and they were I mean, they're a good team. 383 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:08.920 They were competitive early. But even though they you know, 384 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:11.440 they got four guys that shoot it right around forty 385 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:16.680 percent from three, the analytics did say that the best 386 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:19.039 play would have been to take them to cover plus 387 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:20.000 fourteen and a half. 388 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:22.519 There's just a different world. 389 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:25.200 In the Big twelve in the Atlantic Sun, and I 390 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:27.200 just think the Atlantic Sun, to be honest with you, 391 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:31.680 ever getting anything better than a fifteen seed is probably 392 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:35.759 an injustice to them, because that's just again, they are 393 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:38.799 one of maybe three or four Division one leagues in 394 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:43.960 basketball that lose members to go to a better conference. 395 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:46.960 So then they're bringing in I mean, that's where Bellman plays. 396 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:50.480 They bring in Division two programs. So you know, I 397 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:52.200 didn't love it, but I just felt like I can't. 398 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:54.960 I just think that there's clearly a different world to 399 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:57.440 these two teams. And I always state did not finish 400 00:19:57.480 --> 00:19:59.400 strong the Big twelve. I don't think they've looked great 401 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:02.400