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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the Great America.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome this war is but maybe raining Monday afternoon in

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<v Speaker 2>the tristild What a weekend it was in the Tri State.

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<v Speaker 2>But the music festival was fabulous, and of course the

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<v Speaker 2>years at Getafest was unbelievable. In Newport, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>a great event in the war in the end. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that in a few minutes. Plus. Thank god

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<v Speaker 2>the Reds are back having somehow this is I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure I might ask Brian Hamrick this question. It is

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the eighth inning. The Reds are winning

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<v Speaker 2>one zip. If somebody had told you at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the bottom of the eighth inning that the Tampa

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Club would score two runs and now one ball

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<v Speaker 2>was hit out of the infield and they ended up

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<v Speaker 2>the inning with two runs across the plate and the

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<v Speaker 2>base is still loaded, you wouldn't have believed it. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's Reds baseball. Brian Hammrick, welcome again to the Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Cunningham Show. And Brian, how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks again, mister cunning Am.

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<v Speaker 1>So many issues, so little time I see.

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<v Speaker 2>The one story I want to us on a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit is the behavior of some of our judges. Recently,

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<v Speaker 2>we had the kid in Marymont High School who was

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<v Speaker 2>charged and convicted of terrorist threats, threatening to kill students, teachers,

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<v Speaker 2>and staff and do other nasty things to them, and

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<v Speaker 2>Judge Judge Bloom uh in juvenile court actually put him

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<v Speaker 2>in juvenile prison for about a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we also had the case of Benjamin Addison who

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<v Speaker 2>was murdered UC student. He thought his car was maybe

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<v Speaker 2>being broken into, goes out and he's murdered, and she

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<v Speaker 2>tried she put that case into adult court, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what Melissa Powers wanted to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is out of character for Judge Bloom.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think possibly that juvenile court might be getting

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<v Speaker 2>the message that the community doesn't want this soft approach

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<v Speaker 2>to law enforcement. When you kill somebody or threaten to

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<v Speaker 2>blow up Merrymont High School, you might have consequences.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we were just in there for Jaden Shaw, who

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<v Speaker 4>was well Daydon Shaw was in a different court room.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the kid who had been in you saw

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<v Speaker 4>those group attacks downtown. Then he was in another he

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<v Speaker 4>was Judge Shrigg's court room. And and oh, Judge Dragg

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<v Speaker 4>was not happy with this kid at all. He was

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<v Speaker 4>one of those that you saw in the group that

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<v Speaker 4>attacked the guy unprovoked from behind and beat the guy up,

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<v Speaker 4>left him with a bust that eye, his knees were

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<v Speaker 4>u injured, he had a rib.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he was just beaten and pummeled.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh he was. He had just turned eighteen. Jaden

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<v Speaker 4>Shaw had just turned eighteen, and they so he's an adult.

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<v Speaker 4>It's in adult court. Well, the judge gave him, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I think judge Allen Dragg's, and he gave him a chance.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, hey, look, if you get a job, graduate

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<v Speaker 4>from school, and you uh, you know, do what we

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<v Speaker 4>ask of you, then.

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<v Speaker 3>You might have a chance. Well, while he was out,

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<v Speaker 3>he tried to cut the ankle.

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<v Speaker 4>Monitor off perfect that did not go well.

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<v Speaker 3>He sentenced him.

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<v Speaker 4>He had pleaded this thing out, and he pleated it

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<v Speaker 4>down from like aggravated robbery.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Assault but aggravated robbery to like aggravated riot. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen months was the most he gave him. And he

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<v Speaker 4>gave him that, and he let him know he was

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<v Speaker 4>he was not happy, and that at any time they

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<v Speaker 4>can keep him in there if they want to for longer,

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<v Speaker 4>if if he doesn't, you know, do what he's supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to do while he's in jail. But they could have

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<v Speaker 4>put him on work release, and that's what the judge

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<v Speaker 4>said he was gonna do, allow him to, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>work it out, because he had no juvenile record, no

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<v Speaker 4>pass anything like that. But it looks like this kid

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<v Speaker 4>was taking a wrong turn, and this judge got in

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<v Speaker 4>there and decided to, you know, turn the screws a

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<v Speaker 4>little harder now instead of waiting for him to get

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<v Speaker 4>out and do something else.

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<v Speaker 2>So John Jellen Trace is somewhat moderate judge, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>a left winger, and he kind of said, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to take you.

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<v Speaker 1>You've led a tough life and you're eighteen years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Greg, you just do boot camp, get out of

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<v Speaker 2>high school, don't come in any more crimes. Maybe get

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<v Speaker 2>a job, show your functional come back. Put on the

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<v Speaker 2>ankle monitor so we kind of know where you're going.

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<v Speaker 2>And this kid cuts off the ankle monitor and then says,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, hey, Judge, I'm sorry about that too.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to compliment Judge Triggs for doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right right, No, I mean it was a it

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<v Speaker 4>was he didn't and he didn't mince any words with

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<v Speaker 4>the kid either he told him exactly what he thought

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<v Speaker 4>he you know, and so you've got maybe a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more I think there becomes a little more focus

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<v Speaker 4>on it, you know, and uh, you know, just people

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<v Speaker 4>talking about it. You know, it's it's the prosecutor's been

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<v Speaker 4>talking about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Melissa Powers has been you know, all over the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>She's been really upset with some of the things that

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<v Speaker 4>have happened in juvenile court especially, and we I think

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<v Speaker 4>we have seen some things. And I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's just coincidental or whether if we weren't watching it

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<v Speaker 4>to be the same, you know, but whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we've seen some of these cases where that

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<v Speaker 4>they have sent these kids and sentenced him a little

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<v Speaker 4>harder than some of the things we had seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe in the previous year or so.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing in your report on Channel five,

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<v Speaker 2>you had the twenty five second argument. Can you tell

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<v Speaker 2>the American people this Monday afternoon about the twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>second argument council tried to use to no avail.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well it was it was Jaden Shaw's you know, attorney,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was trying to give some mitigation on why

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<v Speaker 4>this you know, attack wasn't so bad, and he was

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<v Speaker 4>trying to put it. He said, it was like twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five seconds. This this, you know, was twenty five seconds

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<v Speaker 4>of this kid's life and all that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it takes the fraction of a second to pull a trigger.

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<v Speaker 4>And so the twenty five second argument, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how well that went over with the judge, because it

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<v Speaker 4>was twenty five seconds of terror for the for the

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<v Speaker 4>gentleman who was being pummeled by all these kids. He

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know if they were going to stop, if they

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<v Speaker 4>were going to kill him, what they were going to

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<v Speaker 4>do that he had no idea. This just comes on

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<v Speaker 4>and he's walking downtown near Fountain Square up there by

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<v Speaker 4>like brew Berger's or whatever that is on sixth Street,

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<v Speaker 4>and out of nowhere, you know, and this is the

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<v Speaker 4>guy who is here. He didn't even speak English. He

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<v Speaker 4>had to have an interpreter for his the person that

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<v Speaker 4>was in court when he was trying to tell what

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<v Speaker 4>was happening, he has.

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<v Speaker 3>No idea what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>These people are just attacking him for no reason whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>And they asked this Jaden Shaw, you know, well why.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you do it?

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<v Speaker 4>And he just he just had no he couldn't, are

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<v Speaker 4>chick any kind of an excuse, like, man, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know what I was doing. I was caught up

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<v Speaker 3>in a frenzy. And my buddy, if he couldn't this

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm thinking, if you don't know why you did it,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it's gonna happen again. Maybe you have a gun

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<v Speaker 4>next time, you know. So I think that's what the

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<v Speaker 4>judge thought, was like, this is not this is not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go. So twenty five seconds turned into a year

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<v Speaker 4>and a half in prison for Jaydenshaw.

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<v Speaker 2>Another the most liberal judge we've had recently is Judge

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<v Speaker 2>Kerrie Bloom of Hamiliny County Juvenile Court. And she had

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<v Speaker 2>before her about a week ago at the Marymont High

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<v Speaker 2>School kid that threatened to kill I had a list

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<v Speaker 2>of those who wanted to kill fellow students at Marymount

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<v Speaker 2>High School, teacher's staff and do disgusting things to the women,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And I thought, based upon her history, she

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<v Speaker 2>would say, you know what, put on an ankle monitor

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<v Speaker 2>the kid. Certainly it was a special needs kid, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have a great empathy for that, but let's face

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<v Speaker 2>let's deal with your behavior, not your status, and she

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<v Speaker 2>gave him like fifteen to sixteen months in juvenile jail

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<v Speaker 2>because of the stretch to kill a bunch of students,

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<v Speaker 2>and for Judge Kerrie Bloom, that was out of character.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she's getting the message.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, it could be that. I was in

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<v Speaker 4>the courtroom for that. I was a little surprised too,

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<v Speaker 4>because that was another one where they could have given him.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they could have just said, here, you've.

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<v Speaker 4>Got this service where you can go. And he actually

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to go to a hospital somewhere for mental treatment.

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<v Speaker 3>And they could have done that.

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<v Speaker 4>There were places they could have done. But she also

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<v Speaker 4>felt like he could get the services that he needs and.

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<v Speaker 3>Be in jail. I think like maybe he was.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, when you see him, he communicates and all this,

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<v Speaker 4>but they say he has a real difficult time, that

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't process things well, and they kind of got

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<v Speaker 4>into some of the you know, kind of mental challenges

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<v Speaker 4>that he faces. But she felt like that basically jail

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<v Speaker 4>for juveniles was the best place for him. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>what she did with him, and and and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was funny because the family even said, hey, look

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<v Speaker 4>we're moving out of Marymont. He won't be near any

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<v Speaker 4>of these folks.

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<v Speaker 3>He won't go near him.

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<v Speaker 4>And they had they had protective orders against all the

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<v Speaker 4>people that were on the hit list or like a

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<v Speaker 4>dozen people on the hit list, and uh, and from

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<v Speaker 4>the school. He can't go there, he can't be at

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<v Speaker 4>any other kind of functions of any sort. And the

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<v Speaker 4>family's willing to help, you know, they know they've got

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with all of this, and so they're in

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, tough position. They're trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>get through and have a kid with these kind of

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<v Speaker 4>challenges and so but anyway, he ends up going to jail,

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<v Speaker 4>and and he'll be there for you know, about a

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<v Speaker 4>year and a half or so. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Another issue is Lula Lemon. I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't spend much time with Lulu Lemon. I

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<v Speaker 2>know my producer Dave loves Lululemon. I guess you do too.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been in a Lululemon. I guess they sell

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<v Speaker 2>stretch pants or something. But I'm ritting This story on

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<v Speaker 2>Channel five website about the Lululemon in Hyde Park has

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<v Speaker 2>been hit at least twice. Massive thefts are going on.

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<v Speaker 2>One time was thirty thousand dollars stolen by two women.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time was two males stole eleven thousand dollars. That's

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<v Speaker 2>forty thousand dollars worth of merchandise. And every now and

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<v Speaker 2>then I check in with the prosecutor's office about Louis

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<v Speaker 2>Vatan and Kenwood Center, ken Wood shopping center there and

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<v Speaker 2>they were looted about two years ago of hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of dollars worth of stuff. So when I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to law enforcement Brian Henry, this is what they tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>On the scales on what we spend our time on.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't spend time on Lululemon, they don't spend time

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<v Speaker 2>in Louis Vaton. They spend time on the four to

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred people shot in the city of Cincinnati, about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred murder. They spend time on gang violence. They

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<v Speaker 2>spend time on drugs. They spend time on burglaries, rapes

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<v Speaker 2>and ours and thefts of stretch pants from Lululemons.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So what it does do and the and the thieves

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<v Speaker 2>got away in a Kia, which I guarantee you was stolen.

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<v Speaker 2>A Kia and a Hundai are very easy to steal

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<v Speaker 2>then use that to commit robberies, wear a mask and

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<v Speaker 2>where you go. But there's there's little or no law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement on these massive looting of high end stores. And

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of money involved is great, the benefits are wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>The loss is assumed, and then these businesses, like in

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<v Speaker 2>downtown San Francisco, simply leave. I saw on YouTube someone

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<v Speaker 2>drove around the streets of San Francisco and all the

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<v Speaker 2>businesses are shut down. They can't stay in business. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the margins are. Lululemon are probably under

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<v Speaker 2>five percent. But when you lose forty to sixty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in merchandise, that equals about a million dollars worth

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<v Speaker 2>of sales. And they can't afford it. So why don't

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<v Speaker 2>the coppers? I guess they can't. They're limited, they have

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<v Speaker 2>limited time that they can't go into Lululemon and Louis Vatona.

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<v Speaker 2>Take it seriously. No one's using guns in these stores.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no assaults of any times. They're careful to make

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<v Speaker 2>it only a grand theft and a way you go.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the butcher's misbehavior that tears down American

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well it's you know, in Lululemon, you know, forty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars, that's like a pair of shorts and a

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<v Speaker 4>pair of socks. So they really find what they got

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<v Speaker 4>had something expensive in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It's you know, it's the thing is you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>when they were kind of at the peak of this

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<v Speaker 4>and I was walking down the street. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 4>just randomly and somebody had busted the windows of a

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<v Speaker 4>hat store and they were going in and getting hats.

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<v Speaker 4>It's sort of like, well, you know, I mean I thought, man,

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<v Speaker 4>if I was gonna waste trying to get arrested, it

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be over it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a cubs hat.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, what what what are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that showed though that there was no

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<v Speaker 4>concern about being arrested.

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<v Speaker 3>Had this area, I can't remember. It was not in

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<v Speaker 4>It was down in another area of San Francisco, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was a real nice, you know area where they

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<v Speaker 4>had it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a three level sort.

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<v Speaker 4>Of a mall like area, and I saw where they

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<v Speaker 4>had to close that down a while back. You can

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<v Speaker 4>only shop there by appointment, you know, So I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>how can you operate anything like that?

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<v Speaker 3>But I was in.

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<v Speaker 4>San Diego just last week and I noticed something and

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the stores was higher end things. I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 4>this is California, man, they don't they don't care, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but let people. A lot of those stores had their

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<v Speaker 4>own like hired cops, and some of them were like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like these rental outfits that you get, but

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<v Speaker 4>some of them were actual police officers. And we're not

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<v Speaker 4>talking about the Rolex store. We're talking about like surf

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<v Speaker 4>shops and places like that where they had a cop

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<v Speaker 4>there at the building.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it looks like some of the businesses. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you forget.

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<v Speaker 4>There are business owners in California, just like business owners.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, and they're tired of this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they don't want to see this, and they

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<v Speaker 4>can't afford to have people come in wipe them out,

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<v Speaker 4>walk down the street with no punishment, like a big

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<v Speaker 4>sign telling everybody, hey, it's free for anybody that wants

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<v Speaker 4>to come in and and and and can just grab

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<v Speaker 4>as much as they want and walk out the door.

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<v Speaker 3>Because nobody's gonna stop you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think you're starting to see, at least in

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit of pushback on.

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<v Speaker 4>That, because they've seen it happen in San Francisco, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>coming down the coast LA And I think San Diego

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<v Speaker 4>is like, you know what, let's see if.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't at least let people.

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<v Speaker 4>Know we aren't going to stand for you just come

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you we're in a one down in Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 2>it's happening, and it's below the radar because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>low priority among the police that are overwhelmed with other crime.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get that, But however, consumers have got to

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<v Speaker 2>understand everything you buy has built into the price that

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<v Speaker 2>you pay. The looting happening all over the city of

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<v Speaker 2>the county. On this looting, we all pay for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been to Lulu Lemons. I guess you go

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<v Speaker 2>there all the time, you know the price of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I may spend an afternoon to go to Lulu, Lemon

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<v Speaker 2>and Hyde Parks and see what the hell's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when individuals with bags filled with materials jump into

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<v Speaker 2>a car and get away, no there's no come up,

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<v Speaker 2>and so there's no penalty. And if you are caught

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<v Speaker 2>you can say, yep, I'm a grand theft. You get probation,

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<v Speaker 2>not even that. And the way you go and do

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<v Speaker 2>it some more, do it again. And these gangs are organized.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, many are legal aliens who are used because

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<v Speaker 2>after all, not much will happen to them anyway. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't do it, you got to pay your

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<v Speaker 2>transit to get here one way or another. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of young girls play with pay with their bodies, and

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<v Speaker 2>men pay by becoming thieves, and that's how they pay

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<v Speaker 2>back the traffickers. And it's happening in Cincinnati all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place, and it's said, but it's the way things are.

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<v Speaker 2>What we got any other topics Brian Hamrick, GI me

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<v Speaker 2>give me? Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, well the problem with that is, you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>get it happen at one place and another the word

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<v Speaker 4>gets out, you know that they're not going to do

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<v Speaker 4>anything to you. That's when you get to start having

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<v Speaker 4>these massive problems because then they're like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>you don't get on the first couple that do that,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to that's where your problems, like those wildfires.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, once they start and you realize that, then

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<v Speaker 4>you've got people from all over saying, hey, that seems.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty easy, and the consequences are.

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<v Speaker 4>Really it makes it a risk reward, and when you're

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<v Speaker 4>in the business of crime risk reward.

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<v Speaker 3>You start weighing that out and you start going, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>What, I can get away with this, what is It's

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<v Speaker 4>way more worth me doing that than having to go

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<v Speaker 4>get a job somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems like a drag, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm Brian Hamrick. I'm glad you're out there on

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<v Speaker 2>the main streets of Cincinnati checking things out. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad that Judge Kerry Bloom and Judge Alan Triggs are

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<v Speaker 2>showing some backbone, especially Bloom. But once again, Brian Hamrick,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>We've not touched Olympic drag.

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<v Speaker 2>Queen torchbearer, who mocked the Last Supper, responds to critics

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<v Speaker 2>will quote I will be more queer quote unquote, but

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<v Speaker 2>we'll save that for another day. But Brian Hamrick, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a great American.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks again, mister Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 2>And God bless you and God bless America. Let's continue

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<v Speaker 2>with more blind becomes available seven four nine, seven thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>My comments about the opening ceremony of the Olympics are

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