Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great America.
Speaker 2: Welcome this war is but maybe raining Monday afternoon in
Speaker 2: the tristild What a weekend it was in the Tri State.
Speaker 2: But the music festival was fabulous, and of course the
Speaker 2: years at Getafest was unbelievable. In Newport, I went to
Speaker 2: a great event in the war in the end. I'll
Speaker 2: talk about that in a few minutes. Plus. Thank god
Speaker 2: the Reds are back having somehow this is I'm not
Speaker 2: sure I might ask Brian Hamrick this question. It is
Speaker 2: the bottom of the eighth inning. The Reds are winning
Speaker 2: one zip. If somebody had told you at the end
Speaker 2: of the bottom of the eighth inning that the Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay Club would score two runs and now one ball
Speaker 2: was hit out of the infield and they ended up
Speaker 2: the inning with two runs across the plate and the
Speaker 2: base is still loaded, you wouldn't have believed it. But
Speaker 2: that's Reds baseball. Brian Hammrick, welcome again to the Bill
Speaker 2: Cunningham Show. And Brian, how are you.
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 4: Thanks again, mister cunning Am.
Speaker 1: So many issues, so little time I see.
Speaker 2: The one story I want to us on a little
Speaker 2: bit is the behavior of some of our judges. Recently,
Speaker 2: we had the kid in Marymont High School who was
Speaker 2: charged and convicted of terrorist threats, threatening to kill students, teachers,
Speaker 2: and staff and do other nasty things to them, and
Speaker 2: Judge Judge Bloom uh in juvenile court actually put him
Speaker 2: in juvenile prison for about a year and a half.
Speaker 2: Then we also had the case of Benjamin Addison who
Speaker 2: was murdered UC student. He thought his car was maybe
Speaker 2: being broken into, goes out and he's murdered, and she
Speaker 2: tried she put that case into adult court, which is
Speaker 2: what Melissa Powers wanted to happen.
Speaker 1: This is out of character for Judge Bloom.
Speaker 2: Do you think possibly that juvenile court might be getting
Speaker 2: the message that the community doesn't want this soft approach
Speaker 2: to law enforcement. When you kill somebody or threaten to
Speaker 2: blow up Merrymont High School, you might have consequences.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were just in there for Jaden Shaw, who
Speaker 4: was well Daydon Shaw was in a different court room.
Speaker 4: He was the kid who had been in you saw
Speaker 4: those group attacks downtown. Then he was in another he
Speaker 4: was Judge Shrigg's court room. And and oh, Judge Dragg
Speaker 4: was not happy with this kid at all. He was
Speaker 4: one of those that you saw in the group that
Speaker 4: attacked the guy unprovoked from behind and beat the guy up,
Speaker 4: left him with a bust that eye, his knees were
Speaker 4: u injured, he had a rib.
Speaker 3: You know, he was just beaten and pummeled.
Speaker 4: And uh he was. He had just turned eighteen. Jaden
Speaker 4: Shaw had just turned eighteen, and they so he's an adult.
Speaker 4: It's in adult court. Well, the judge gave him, uh,
Speaker 4: I think judge Allen Dragg's, and he gave him a chance.
Speaker 4: He said, hey, look, if you get a job, graduate
Speaker 4: from school, and you uh, you know, do what we
Speaker 4: ask of you, then.
Speaker 3: You might have a chance. Well, while he was out,
Speaker 3: he tried to cut the ankle.
Speaker 4: Monitor off perfect that did not go well.
Speaker 3: He sentenced him.
Speaker 4: He had pleaded this thing out, and he pleated it
Speaker 4: down from like aggravated robbery.
Speaker 3: I don't know why it wasn't.
Speaker 4: Assault but aggravated robbery to like aggravated riot. But anyway,
Speaker 4: eighteen months was the most he gave him. And he
Speaker 4: gave him that, and he let him know he was
Speaker 4: he was not happy, and that at any time they
Speaker 4: can keep him in there if they want to for longer,
Speaker 4: if if he doesn't, you know, do what he's supposed
Speaker 4: to do while he's in jail. But they could have
Speaker 4: put him on work release, and that's what the judge
Speaker 4: said he was gonna do, allow him to, you know,
Speaker 4: work it out, because he had no juvenile record, no
Speaker 4: pass anything like that. But it looks like this kid
Speaker 4: was taking a wrong turn, and this judge got in
Speaker 4: there and decided to, you know, turn the screws a
Speaker 4: little harder now instead of waiting for him to get
Speaker 4: out and do something else.
Speaker 2: So John Jellen Trace is somewhat moderate judge, he's not
Speaker 2: a left winger, and he kind of said, look, I
Speaker 2: want to take you.
Speaker 1: You've led a tough life and you're eighteen years old.
Speaker 2: Now, Greg, you just do boot camp, get out of
Speaker 2: high school, don't come in any more crimes. Maybe get
Speaker 2: a job, show your functional come back. Put on the
Speaker 2: ankle monitor so we kind of know where you're going.
Speaker 2: And this kid cuts off the ankle monitor and then says,
Speaker 2: you know what, hey, Judge, I'm sorry about that too.
Speaker 2: I want to compliment Judge Triggs for doing that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right right, No, I mean it was a it
Speaker 4: was he didn't and he didn't mince any words with
Speaker 4: the kid either he told him exactly what he thought
Speaker 4: he you know, and so you've got maybe a little
Speaker 4: bit more I think there becomes a little more focus
Speaker 4: on it, you know, and uh, you know, just people
Speaker 4: talking about it. You know, it's it's the prosecutor's been
Speaker 4: talking about him.
Speaker 3: Melissa Powers has been you know, all over the thing.
Speaker 4: She's been really upset with some of the things that
Speaker 4: have happened in juvenile court especially, and we I think
Speaker 4: we have seen some things. And I don't know whether
Speaker 4: it's just coincidental or whether if we weren't watching it
Speaker 4: to be the same, you know, but whatever it is,
Speaker 4: I think we've seen some of these cases where that
Speaker 4: they have sent these kids and sentenced him a little
Speaker 4: harder than some of the things we had seen, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe in the previous year or so.
Speaker 2: And the other thing in your report on Channel five,
Speaker 2: you had the twenty five second argument. Can you tell
Speaker 2: the American people this Monday afternoon about the twenty five
Speaker 2: second argument council tried to use to no avail.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was it was Jaden Shaw's you know, attorney,
Speaker 4: and he was trying to give some mitigation on why
Speaker 4: this you know, attack wasn't so bad, and he was
Speaker 4: trying to put it. He said, it was like twenty
Speaker 4: five seconds. This this, you know, was twenty five seconds
Speaker 4: of this kid's life and all that. But you know,
Speaker 4: it takes the fraction of a second to pull a trigger.
Speaker 4: And so the twenty five second argument, I don't know
Speaker 4: how well that went over with the judge, because it
Speaker 4: was twenty five seconds of terror for the for the
Speaker 4: gentleman who was being pummeled by all these kids. He
Speaker 4: didn't know if they were going to stop, if they
Speaker 4: were going to kill him, what they were going to
Speaker 4: do that he had no idea. This just comes on
Speaker 4: and he's walking downtown near Fountain Square up there by
Speaker 4: like brew Berger's or whatever that is on sixth Street,
Speaker 4: and out of nowhere, you know, and this is the
Speaker 4: guy who is here. He didn't even speak English. He
Speaker 4: had to have an interpreter for his the person that
Speaker 4: was in court when he was trying to tell what
Speaker 4: was happening, he has.
Speaker 3: No idea what's going on.
Speaker 4: These people are just attacking him for no reason whatsoever.
Speaker 4: And they asked this Jaden Shaw, you know, well why.
Speaker 3: Did you do it?
Speaker 4: And he just he just had no he couldn't, are
Speaker 4: chick any kind of an excuse, like, man, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know what I was doing. I was caught up
Speaker 3: in a frenzy. And my buddy, if he couldn't this
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, if you don't know why you did it,
Speaker 4: maybe it's gonna happen again. Maybe you have a gun
Speaker 4: next time, you know. So I think that's what the
Speaker 4: judge thought, was like, this is not this is not
Speaker 4: gonna go. So twenty five seconds turned into a year
Speaker 4: and a half in prison for Jaydenshaw.
Speaker 2: Another the most liberal judge we've had recently is Judge
Speaker 2: Kerrie Bloom of Hamiliny County Juvenile Court. And she had
Speaker 2: before her about a week ago at the Marymont High
Speaker 2: School kid that threatened to kill I had a list
Speaker 2: of those who wanted to kill fellow students at Marymount
Speaker 2: High School, teacher's staff and do disgusting things to the women,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And I thought, based upon her history, she
Speaker 2: would say, you know what, put on an ankle monitor
Speaker 2: the kid. Certainly it was a special needs kid, and
Speaker 2: I have a great empathy for that, but let's face
Speaker 2: let's deal with your behavior, not your status, and she
Speaker 2: gave him like fifteen to sixteen months in juvenile jail
Speaker 2: because of the stretch to kill a bunch of students,
Speaker 2: and for Judge Kerrie Bloom, that was out of character.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's getting the message.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it could be that. I was in
Speaker 4: the courtroom for that. I was a little surprised too,
Speaker 4: because that was another one where they could have given him.
Speaker 3: You know, they could have just said, here, you've.
Speaker 4: Got this service where you can go. And he actually
Speaker 4: wanted to go to a hospital somewhere for mental treatment.
Speaker 3: And they could have done that.
Speaker 4: There were places they could have done. But she also
Speaker 4: felt like he could get the services that he needs and.
Speaker 3: Be in jail. I think like maybe he was.
Speaker 4: You know, when you see him, he communicates and all this,
Speaker 4: but they say he has a real difficult time, that
Speaker 4: he doesn't process things well, and they kind of got
Speaker 4: into some of the you know, kind of mental challenges
Speaker 4: that he faces. But she felt like that basically jail
Speaker 4: for juveniles was the best place for him. So that's
Speaker 4: what she did with him, and and and you know,
Speaker 4: it was funny because the family even said, hey, look
Speaker 4: we're moving out of Marymont. He won't be near any
Speaker 4: of these folks.
Speaker 3: He won't go near him.
Speaker 4: And they had they had protective orders against all the
Speaker 4: people that were on the hit list or like a
Speaker 4: dozen people on the hit list, and uh, and from
Speaker 4: the school. He can't go there, he can't be at
Speaker 4: any other kind of functions of any sort. And the
Speaker 4: family's willing to help, you know, they know they've got
Speaker 4: to deal with all of this, and so they're in
Speaker 4: a you know, tough position. They're trying to you know,
Speaker 4: get through and have a kid with these kind of
Speaker 4: challenges and so but anyway, he ends up going to jail,
Speaker 4: and and he'll be there for you know, about a
Speaker 4: year and a half or so. Well.
Speaker 2: Another issue is Lula Lemon. I don't know about you,
Speaker 2: and I don't spend much time with Lulu Lemon. I
Speaker 2: know my producer Dave loves Lululemon. I guess you do too.
Speaker 2: I've never been in a Lululemon. I guess they sell
Speaker 2: stretch pants or something. But I'm ritting This story on
Speaker 2: Channel five website about the Lululemon in Hyde Park has
Speaker 2: been hit at least twice. Massive thefts are going on.
Speaker 2: One time was thirty thousand dollars stolen by two women.
Speaker 2: Next time was two males stole eleven thousand dollars. That's
Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars worth of merchandise. And every now and
Speaker 2: then I check in with the prosecutor's office about Louis
Speaker 2: Vatan and Kenwood Center, ken Wood shopping center there and
Speaker 2: they were looted about two years ago of hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars worth of stuff. So when I talked
Speaker 2: to law enforcement Brian Henry, this is what they tell me.
Speaker 2: On the scales on what we spend our time on.
Speaker 2: They don't spend time on Lululemon, they don't spend time
Speaker 2: in Louis Vaton. They spend time on the four to
Speaker 2: five hundred people shot in the city of Cincinnati, about
Speaker 2: one hundred murder. They spend time on gang violence. They
Speaker 2: spend time on drugs. They spend time on burglaries, rapes
Speaker 2: and ours and thefts of stretch pants from Lululemons.
Speaker 1: Not a big deal.
Speaker 2: So what it does do and the and the thieves
Speaker 2: got away in a Kia, which I guarantee you was stolen.
Speaker 2: A Kia and a Hundai are very easy to steal
Speaker 2: then use that to commit robberies, wear a mask and
Speaker 2: where you go. But there's there's little or no law
Speaker 2: enforcement on these massive looting of high end stores. And
Speaker 2: the amount of money involved is great, the benefits are wonderful.
Speaker 2: The loss is assumed, and then these businesses, like in
Speaker 2: downtown San Francisco, simply leave. I saw on YouTube someone
Speaker 2: drove around the streets of San Francisco and all the
Speaker 2: businesses are shut down. They can't stay in business. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the margins are. Lululemon are probably under
Speaker 2: five percent. But when you lose forty to sixty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars in merchandise, that equals about a million dollars worth
Speaker 2: of sales. And they can't afford it. So why don't
Speaker 2: the coppers? I guess they can't. They're limited, they have
Speaker 2: limited time that they can't go into Lululemon and Louis Vatona.
Speaker 2: Take it seriously. No one's using guns in these stores.
Speaker 2: There's no assaults of any times. They're careful to make
Speaker 2: it only a grand theft and a way you go.
Speaker 2: But this is the butcher's misbehavior that tears down American
Speaker 2: society and is very dangerous. Can you smell when I'm cooking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's you know, in Lululemon, you know, forty
Speaker 4: thousand dollars, that's like a pair of shorts and a
Speaker 4: pair of socks. So they really find what they got
Speaker 4: had something expensive in there.
Speaker 1: I gotta go check it out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's the thing is you know, I
Speaker 4: was out in San Francisco a couple of years ago
Speaker 4: when they were kind of at the peak of this
Speaker 4: and I was walking down the street. I mean it's
Speaker 4: just randomly and somebody had busted the windows of a
Speaker 4: hat store and they were going in and getting hats.
Speaker 4: It's sort of like, well, you know, I mean I thought, man,
Speaker 4: if I was gonna waste trying to get arrested, it
Speaker 4: wouldn't be over it.
Speaker 3: You know, a cubs hat.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, what what what are you thinking?
Speaker 4: But I think that showed though that there was no
Speaker 4: concern about being arrested.
Speaker 3: Had this area, I can't remember. It was not in
Speaker 3: the Wharf.
Speaker 4: It was down in another area of San Francisco, but
Speaker 4: it was a real nice, you know area where they
Speaker 4: had it was.
Speaker 3: Like a three level sort.
Speaker 4: Of a mall like area, and I saw where they
Speaker 4: had to close that down a while back. You can
Speaker 4: only shop there by appointment, you know, So I mean,
Speaker 4: how can you operate anything like that?
Speaker 3: But I was in.
Speaker 4: San Diego just last week and I noticed something and
Speaker 4: a lot of the stores was higher end things. I thought, well,
Speaker 4: this is California, man, they don't they don't care, you know,
Speaker 4: but let people. A lot of those stores had their
Speaker 4: own like hired cops, and some of them were like,
Speaker 4: you know, like these rental outfits that you get, but
Speaker 4: some of them were actual police officers. And we're not
Speaker 4: talking about the Rolex store. We're talking about like surf
Speaker 4: shops and places like that where they had a cop
Speaker 4: there at the building.
Speaker 3: I'm like, it looks like some of the businesses. I mean,
Speaker 3: you forget.
Speaker 4: There are business owners in California, just like business owners.
Speaker 3: Here, and they're tired of this.
Speaker 4: You know, they don't want to see this, and they
Speaker 4: can't afford to have people come in wipe them out,
Speaker 4: walk down the street with no punishment, like a big
Speaker 4: sign telling everybody, hey, it's free for anybody that wants
Speaker 4: to come in and and and and can just grab
Speaker 4: as much as they want and walk out the door.
Speaker 3: Because nobody's gonna stop you.
Speaker 4: Well, I think you're starting to see, at least in
Speaker 4: San Diego.
Speaker 3: A little bit of pushback on.
Speaker 4: That, because they've seen it happen in San Francisco, you know,
Speaker 4: coming down the coast LA And I think San Diego
Speaker 4: is like, you know what, let's see if.
Speaker 3: We can't at least let people.
Speaker 4: Know we aren't going to stand for you just come
Speaker 4: in and grabbing what you want and taking on.
Speaker 2: Tell you we're in a one down in Cincinnati and
Speaker 2: it's happening, and it's below the radar because it's a
Speaker 2: low priority among the police that are overwhelmed with other crime.
Speaker 2: And I get that, But however, consumers have got to
Speaker 2: understand everything you buy has built into the price that
Speaker 2: you pay. The looting happening all over the city of
Speaker 2: the county. On this looting, we all pay for it.
Speaker 2: I've never been to Lulu Lemons. I guess you go
Speaker 2: there all the time, you know the price of things.
Speaker 2: I may spend an afternoon to go to Lulu, Lemon
Speaker 2: and Hyde Parks and see what the hell's going on.
Speaker 2: Because when individuals with bags filled with materials jump into
Speaker 2: a car and get away, no there's no come up,
Speaker 2: and so there's no penalty. And if you are caught
Speaker 2: you can say, yep, I'm a grand theft. You get probation,
Speaker 2: not even that. And the way you go and do
Speaker 2: it some more, do it again. And these gangs are organized.
Speaker 2: In fact, many are legal aliens who are used because
Speaker 2: after all, not much will happen to them anyway. And
Speaker 2: if you don't do it, you got to pay your
Speaker 2: transit to get here one way or another. A lot
Speaker 2: of young girls play with pay with their bodies, and
Speaker 2: men pay by becoming thieves, and that's how they pay
Speaker 2: back the traffickers. And it's happening in Cincinnati all over
Speaker 2: the place, and it's said, but it's the way things are.
Speaker 2: What we got any other topics Brian Hamrick, GI me
Speaker 2: give me? Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well, well the problem with that is, you know, you
Speaker 4: get it happen at one place and another the word
Speaker 4: gets out, you know that they're not going to do
Speaker 4: anything to you. That's when you get to start having
Speaker 4: these massive problems because then they're like, you know, if
Speaker 4: you don't get on the first couple that do that,
Speaker 4: you've got to that's where your problems, like those wildfires.
Speaker 4: You know, once they start and you realize that, then
Speaker 4: you've got people from all over saying, hey, that seems.
Speaker 3: Pretty easy, and the consequences are.
Speaker 4: Really it makes it a risk reward, and when you're
Speaker 4: in the business of crime risk reward.
Speaker 3: You start weighing that out and you start going, you know.
Speaker 4: What, I can get away with this, what is It's
Speaker 4: way more worth me doing that than having to go
Speaker 4: get a job somewhere.
Speaker 3: That seems like a drag, you know.
Speaker 2: So I'm Brian Hamrick. I'm glad you're out there on
Speaker 2: the main streets of Cincinnati checking things out. And I'm
Speaker 2: glad that Judge Kerry Bloom and Judge Alan Triggs are
Speaker 2: showing some backbone, especially Bloom. But once again, Brian Hamrick,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
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