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Speaker 2: a two or three, maybe even four well deserved nights off. Now,
Speaker 2: before we get started, let me just make note of
Speaker 2: a very simple fact. My name's Dan Rayam, the host
Speaker 2: of the show, by the way, But the fact I
Speaker 2: want to make everybody aware of is today is Nurse
Speaker 2: Appreciation Day. And if this any group of people who
Speaker 2: all of us should appreciate without exception, nurses. Nurses are
Speaker 2: the Florence nightingales that are at with us at the
Speaker 2: most difficult moments of our lives. They are there when
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Speaker 2: They're there when we deal with any form of illness
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Speaker 2: them not only as a friend, but for what they do.
Speaker 2: It is a profession, it is a vocation. And some
Speaker 2: of the most incredible people I know, and some of
Speaker 2: the nicest people I know, aren't nurses, men and women
Speaker 2: who devote their time to caring for patients. Doctors are important,
Speaker 2: no question about that, but I would much prefer to
Speaker 2: have a nurse at bedside to help in whatever set
Speaker 2: of circumstances one needed to be helped with than a doctor.
Speaker 2: Doctors are great, don't get me wrong. Okay, I get it,
Speaker 2: And in the pecking order, doctors are above nurses, I
Speaker 2: get it, But not in my pecking order, nurses are
Speaker 2: at the top of the heap. Having said that, we
Speaker 2: are going to now move in to our four guests
Speaker 2: during this hour of the Nightside News Update, and we
Speaker 2: are going to talk about the early onset of puberty.
Speaker 2: Kids are experiencing puberty a little earlier perhaps than prior generations,
Speaker 2: which I think doesn't make it any easier for parents
Speaker 2: of kids who are either going through or about to
Speaker 2: go through puberty with us as Doctor Ryl Gonzalez Ziegler,
Speaker 2: she's a psychologist, wrote the book The Crucial Years, The
Speaker 2: Essential Guide to Mental Health and Modern Puberty in Middle Childhood.
Speaker 2: Really interesting title, Doctor Gonzalez Ziegler, welcome tonight's side. How
Speaker 2: are you.
Speaker 3: I'm good, How are you? Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume that going through puberty is not the
Speaker 2: easiest time of most of our lives. Lots of questions
Speaker 2: pretty much like, what the hell's going on with me?
Speaker 2: How can you make it a little easier on people
Speaker 2: who are passing through that transition from a child to
Speaker 2: a teenager or an adolescent, And how can you make
Speaker 2: it easier on the parents who have to also once
Speaker 2: again make that trek that they themselves had made maybe
Speaker 2: twenty or thirty years prior.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you raised a really good point. We all
Speaker 3: went through it. If we're still here and alive, we
Speaker 3: went through it ourselves. But the difference is we were
Speaker 3: probably older, we didn't have social media, we didn't have
Speaker 3: the level of stress that we're today's kids being exposed to,
Speaker 3: so it's like a very similar process but also in
Speaker 3: a really different time. So I think one of the
Speaker 3: things to start with is for parents to really understand
Speaker 3: just how much younger kids are going through puberty. On average,
Speaker 3: Since the nineteen eighties, it's dropped three months per decade,
Speaker 3: so we're really talking about, in some cases, three to
Speaker 3: five years earlier. And we are talking about parents who
Speaker 3: are also themselves under a tremendous amount of stress, the
Speaker 3: most stressed outparenting generation that's ever been studied. So we
Speaker 3: have kids who are going through puberty when they should
Speaker 3: still be in this middle childhood phase and not adolescents,
Speaker 3: and then we also have parents who have a lot
Speaker 3: of stress, and the combination is something that I'm really
Speaker 3: excited to start talking about.
Speaker 4: What to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what should we do? I mean, I'm assuming
Speaker 2: that's the topic of the book, The Crucial Years, The
Speaker 2: Essential Guide to Mental Health and Modern Puberty in middle Childhood.
Speaker 2: We're not going to be able to cover the book
Speaker 2: and the few minutes that we have, but give us
Speaker 2: some certainly a couple of pointers that maybe people might
Speaker 2: latch onto and perhaps can convince or persuade them that
Speaker 2: this is a book that they should get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of the things to understand is, yes,
Speaker 3: kids are going through puberty earlier. But the really key
Speaker 3: part as well is, I mean, sometimes people want to
Speaker 3: know why, and there's a couple of reasons that are
Speaker 3: thought to be why we have a childhood obesity epidemic.
Speaker 3: We have children under stress and stress appears to trigger puberty.
Speaker 3: And we have environmental toxins and hormones in the foods
Speaker 3: that the kids are eating that are endocrine disruptors. So
Speaker 3: there are reasons, but those are not things we're going
Speaker 3: to probably solve overnight. So I think that one of
Speaker 3: the things that's really helpful for parents to understand is
Speaker 3: that the developmental stage of middle childhood is actually meant
Speaker 3: to help a kid become capable and confident. It's called
Speaker 3: industry versus in inferiority, which in today's terms just basically
Speaker 3: means a kid gets to be about twelve or thirteen
Speaker 3: and they should leave this stage and go on to
Speaker 3: the teen years being confident, knowing what they're capable of.
Speaker 3: That's the positive outcome if they go through these years
Speaker 3: and they feel like they don't know what they're confident
Speaker 3: and they don't know what they're good at. Then they
Speaker 3: leave feeling what we call having low self esteem. And
Speaker 3: so I think the key for this is what parents
Speaker 3: can do is allow your kid to go ahead and
Speaker 3: take risks, to allow them to try things they're going
Speaker 3: to fail at. To keep space and hold space for
Speaker 3: play and just spending time outside and really watching the
Speaker 3: screen time. Because what we see is now we have
Speaker 3: kids who are nine and ten years old, they're still
Speaker 3: in elementary school, they're going through puberty, and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, the world looks at them like they're
Speaker 3: older and they treat them older, which inevitably kind of that,
Speaker 3: you know, shortens their childhood in a sense.
Speaker 2: You've raised so many good points I couldn't even begin
Speaker 2: to respond to them. I guess the one question I'm
Speaker 2: going to ask this is a broad question, and it's probably,
Speaker 2: I don't know, sort of a devil's advocate question, and
Speaker 2: we all thinking this.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you asked me that devil's advocate question. No
Speaker 3: one else has asked me that today. Are we overthinking it?
Speaker 3: We're not. I mean, we have one in five kids
Speaker 3: that have a diagnosable mental health condition. We have kids
Speaker 3: who are developing. Their bodies are developing, you know, starting
Speaker 3: for girls nine years old and for boys ten years old,
Speaker 3: and so when we look at okay, so maybe they are.
Speaker 3: Is that really a big deal? I have a long
Speaker 3: list that if I read it all, it would be
Speaker 3: really scary, I think to parents. But earlier puberty has
Speaker 3: I'll just tell you some of the negative outcomes. Increase
Speaker 3: risk of depression, increased anxiety, increased substance use and abuse,
Speaker 3: increased eating disorders, embody dissatisfaction. There's actually a lot of
Speaker 3: really negative outcomes that are studied when we look at
Speaker 3: what happens to kids who go through earlier puberty. So
Speaker 3: it's a great question, But the truth is we have
Speaker 3: a youth mental health crisis that actually is starting in
Speaker 3: middle childhood and just doesn't get the attention until they're teenagers.
Speaker 3: And that's really the spirit of the book is to say,
Speaker 3: I think that we can prevent a lot of the
Speaker 3: things that we're seeing in our teens right now by
Speaker 3: really focusing on the stage right before when the parents
Speaker 3: actually have the most amount of influence and can instill
Speaker 3: their values onto their kids, and the kid still wants
Speaker 3: to be with you, They still want to cuddle whole hands,
Speaker 3: watch movies. You've got like six to twelve to actually
Speaker 3: get to talk to your kid and do that before
Speaker 3: they become an adolescent. Anytime thirteen fourteen years old where
Speaker 3: they rest start separating from you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's when that's when you start to think
Speaker 2: back and wish they were back in the terrible twos.
Speaker 2: Doctor Cheryl Gonzaleziegeler, thank you very much the book The
Speaker 2: Crucial Years, The Essential Guide to Mental health and modern
Speaker 2: puberty in middle childhood. Thanks so much for being with us.
Speaker 2: This probably deserves a longer conversation, but that's all the
Speaker 2: time we have for tonight. I assume this book is
Speaker 2: now out available Amazon dot com probably the easiest place
Speaker 2: to procure the book.
Speaker 3: Correct, that's right, anywhere books are sold. It's out today.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, perfect timing, doctor Cheryl Gonzales Ziegler. Appreciate your
Speaker 2: time tonight, your great interview. And I'd like to ask
Speaker 2: devil devilish questions. Okay, that's that's what I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I think outside the box. I'm
Speaker 2: an outside the box sort of guy. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll be back and we're gonna tell you
Speaker 2: what US News and World Reports thinks are the best
Speaker 2: states in America. Massachusetts is not number one. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what number two is, New Hampshire. That's the teas.
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Nightside right after this very quick break.
Speaker 1: Right after this, it's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's
Speaker 1: news Radio.
Speaker 2: All Right, US World News Reports they love to do
Speaker 2: different rankings, and they have ranked the best states for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five with US as Joscelyn Jeffrey Wilynsky. She's
Speaker 2: the US News Senior data editor, Jocelin. Welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 5: Hi, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Well, I notice, by the way, do you do this
Speaker 2: every year?
Speaker 5: US News does this every year? Full disclosure, this is
Speaker 5: my first year.
Speaker 2: Well, this is probably the best year it's ever done that.
Speaker 2: So that's why I asked the question.
Speaker 5: Yes, obviously, clearly, clearly.
Speaker 2: Okay, So does the rank change much from year to
Speaker 2: year or no? I know that obviously you want to
Speaker 2: do it on an annual basis, But before we get
Speaker 2: to the ranking this year, is it fundamentally the same
Speaker 2: as the last few years.
Speaker 5: I will say for almost all the states, the rankings
Speaker 5: stay pretty stable from year to year, and we try
Speaker 5: to keep the methodology is really consistent and just updating
Speaker 5: the data. There are a few exceptions, but certainly when
Speaker 5: it came to Massachusetts, it's been kind of in this
Speaker 5: upper echelon for a long time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, that I would expect that. But I'm
Speaker 2: surprised that we're not number one. We're number seven or
Speaker 2: number nine. I guess we're number nine, excuse me, nine
Speaker 2: ninut of fifty. That's not bad. But you know, when
Speaker 2: you think about it, it's probably like an eighty two
Speaker 2: score off of one hundred. You taught is number one.
Speaker 2: So what makes the big difference between you taught and Massachusetts?
Speaker 2: I mean, Romney was governor here, he's just resigned or
Speaker 2: he's just retired as a senator from Utah, we have
Speaker 2: better sports teams here. How does Utah jump eight points
Speaker 2: ahead of Massachusetts. I know it's easier to spell, I
Speaker 2: get that, but give us but we always assume we
Speaker 2: have the best medical, we have the best educational, we
Speaker 2: have the best sports teams. Is how would you distinguish
Speaker 2: between Utah number one in Massachusetts number nine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the thing and Utah people are always it's a
Speaker 5: pretty controversial finding. It's the third year in a row
Speaker 5: that Utah has been the top state. And what I
Speaker 5: like to say is Utah's main advantage is consistency. You know,
Speaker 5: there are some categories where Massachusetts outperformed it, for sure,
Speaker 5: but there are also categories where Massachusetts was ranked much lower,
Speaker 5: and Utah was just good enough in every category except
Speaker 5: for one for environment to push it to that number
Speaker 5: one rank. Now you're spot on in Massachusetts is very
Speaker 5: highly ranked for healthcare, education, environment, and a few others,
Speaker 5: but that's sort of balanced out by pretty low rankings
Speaker 5: in some other areas.
Speaker 2: What are our low rankings in Massachusetts? We have to
Speaker 2: look at the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, you and listeners probably won't be too surprised to
Speaker 5: find out that most of them come down to affordability.
Speaker 5: Massachusetts is I think the third worst for affordability. It's
Speaker 5: also the third worst for the Jinny Index, which is
Speaker 5: a measure of income inequality, as well as the second
Speaker 5: worst for debt at graduation. So you're just kind of
Speaker 5: seeing throughout the rankings spread across the different categories. This
Speaker 5: evidence of the affordability crisis manifesting itself.
Speaker 2: We're also a very high tax state. I'm sure you
Speaker 2: realize that we've just changed our constitution, so we're going
Speaker 2: to drive millionaires out of Massachusetts because we're now whacking
Speaker 2: people penalizing people who are more successful. The number two
Speaker 2: state was one of my favorite states, New Hampshire, which
Speaker 2: is just to our northern border. New Hampshire, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if you take this and get us consideration.
Speaker 2: They're north of us, and they have much better roads
Speaker 2: than we do, and they maintained their roads at about
Speaker 2: twenty five percent the cost on a per mile basis
Speaker 2: as we do here in Massachusetts. And it's and governors
Speaker 2: sooner when I used to talk about this all the time.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much money that we spend in
Speaker 2: Massachusetts on things like infrastructure, and at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, we leave the league in potholes. So I
Speaker 2: think you're giving Massachusetts an inflated rate. Really, as someone's
Speaker 2: living in my entire life.
Speaker 5: So well, I will say, oh, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2: And then the other thing is we have a one
Speaker 2: party state in Massachusetts. We don't have any legitimate political
Speaker 2: goal competition like they have in Utah and they have
Speaker 2: in New Hampshire. So yeah, yeah, you should. You might
Speaker 2: want to put that one in because I think that
Speaker 2: a lot of states that are one party states, they
Speaker 2: get a little overconfident. And I know that there's some
Speaker 2: states that are overwhelming the one party states at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the listing as well. But you know, I
Speaker 2: just I'm having a little bit of fun with you here.
Speaker 2: Uh but I love you know. I loved reading US
Speaker 2: News and World Report when it was a magazine, and
Speaker 2: I love what you guys are doing digitally now as well.
Speaker 2: Do you want to run down the top states? So
Speaker 2: we we're heard in the eastern half of the United States,
Speaker 2: let's we should we should be able to give you
Speaker 2: a drum roll here, but let's let's run down the
Speaker 2: states so that everybody knows if they know your your
Speaker 2: website's not letting me in here. So you must have
Speaker 2: the ten give us one one through ten.
Speaker 5: All right. So in first place we have Utah. In
Speaker 5: second place, we have your favorite state, New Hampshire, which
Speaker 5: you'll find it interesting to know, did far outrank Massachusetts
Speaker 5: on our infrastructure rating, which does include roads.
Speaker 2: So observation the cost, by the way, New Hampshire. That's
Speaker 2: the truth, by the way, on a perfile basis, Yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 5: Number three a bit of a dark horse, Idaho, number four, Minnesota,
Speaker 5: number five, Nebraska, number six. The only southern state to
Speaker 5: make it into the top ten Florida. And then we're
Speaker 5: back to the northeast with number seven for Vermont, rounding
Speaker 5: out with an interesting combination number eight South Dakota, number
Speaker 5: nine Massachusetts, and number ten in the Pacific Northwest Washington.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Those are really nice states, clean states. You have
Speaker 2: Republican states Idaho in there in South Dakota, and you
Speaker 2: have democratic states like Massachusetts. I think it's a pretty
Speaker 2: good ranking, to be honest with you. And I don't
Speaker 2: know why World US News and were we pulled it
Speaker 2: has now walked me out.
Speaker 6: Here, which is frustrating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's kind of
Speaker 6: a nasty trick. Someone must be someone from Massachusetts who
Speaker 6: works at US World Report.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jess, I love these sorts of interviews, and uh,
Speaker 2: we will leave the ten lower states and and hopefully
Speaker 2: they'll all do better next year and we'll look forward
Speaker 2: to talking to you next year or anything in between
Speaker 2: that you have that's interesting. I love US News and
Speaker 2: World Report. I loved it as a magazine and I
Speaker 2: loved it as a digital website, and it's it's fabulous information.
Speaker 2: You guys do great work. Thanks so much. Appreciated US
Speaker 2: News Senior Data editor. Thank you much. We'll talk again.
Speaker 2: I hope we'll talk often. Thanks.
Speaker 5: Thanks, Jocelyn, definitely thanks.
Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye. Here comes the news at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the hour, a minute or so late. We're going
Speaker 2: to talk to a defense attorney about the Shawan Diddy
Speaker 2: Combs federal trial. I had no idea who Sean Diddy
Speaker 2: Combs is except he's a heap of trouble and I
Speaker 2: guess he's a singer or an actor or something like that.
Speaker 2: But we're going to get all the lowdown on Sean
Speaker 2: Ditty Combs. I do know that he never got bail,
Speaker 2: which in a federal court, if you don't get bailed,
Speaker 2: that's not a good sign. I can tell you that
Speaker 2: as a member of the bar. We'll be back on
Speaker 2: night Side right after this.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure most of you have heard of Sean
Speaker 2: Diddy Comb's big rapper in the ninety eighties, nineties, two thousands,
Speaker 2: and currently under federal indictment. He is facing a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of big problems. One count of rico racketeering conspiracy,
Speaker 2: two counts of sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion
Speaker 2: that carries a maximum of life in prison, mandatory sentence
Speaker 2: fifteen years in prison. Two council transport transportation to engage
Speaker 2: in prostitution, which carries this dude's He's dealing with a
Speaker 2: lot of issues here, that is for sure, and he's
Speaker 2: gonna his trial is supposed to start this month. Hip
Speaker 2: hop mogul Sean Diddy combs with us as attorney Jeremy Rosenthal.
Speaker 2: Jeremy as a lawyer, I understand what the batting average
Speaker 2: is for federal prosecutors. It's about ninety at least up
Speaker 2: up in this district. It seems to me that in
Speaker 2: a case like this that that poor Seawan Diddy, he's
Speaker 2: he's got two chances slimming none and I think none
Speaker 2: might be leaving a courtroom. What do you think?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's the legal analysis. I mean, sometimes.
Speaker 2: Actually slim leave in the courtroom by mistaken it's slim.
Speaker 8: Walking up Yeah, no, you nailed it. I mean, look,
Speaker 8: there's the FEDS. They they play hardball. And what we
Speaker 8: tell our clients is, if they have an FB agent
Speaker 8: who's questioning him, you know what, they already know.
Speaker 7: They already know the answer, so you.
Speaker 8: Need to be honest with them. They they wire these
Speaker 8: things ten ways till Sunday, and they don't indict cases.
Speaker 7: Unless they think they're going to win them.
Speaker 8: More often than not, especially the high profile stuff they've got,
Speaker 8: you would think an army of witnesses that are going
Speaker 8: to come and testify, some of whom probably have their
Speaker 8: fingers bent back a little bit, some of whom are
Speaker 8: probably legitimately victims here. Yeah, no, he's up against it.
Speaker 8: He turned out a plea deal last week. We don't
Speaker 8: know what that was. We don't know what the offer was,
Speaker 8: what concessions the government was going to make, and did
Speaker 8: he wants to you know, he's going to roll the
Speaker 8: dice y.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that the Feds would even offer a plea
Speaker 2: deal in a case like this. Maybe it wasn't a
Speaker 2: particularly sweet plea deal deal. How old is this guy,
Speaker 2: He's like got to be pretty close to sixty. I'm
Speaker 2: assuming at this point or maybe just a little less.
Speaker 8: I think that's right. He's in his fifties, is my understanding.
Speaker 8: And yeah, I mean sometimes when you're that that's one
Speaker 8: I guess downside, if you will to such heavy handed punishment,
Speaker 8: is you really put the defendant in a in a
Speaker 8: no lose situation or a no win situation, and in
Speaker 8: which case it's like, well we may as well go
Speaker 8: out fighting.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I practice in Texas, and no politician in Texas gets elected.
Speaker 7: On the platform up, I'm going to be easy on crime.
Speaker 8: Right, So so when when the prosecutor comes out and says, well,
Speaker 8: I'm going to put you in prison for fifty years
Speaker 8: and my clients forty eight years old, you feel like,
Speaker 8: you know, dying in prison at the age of ninety seven.
Speaker 7: No, let's you know, shoot les, let's go, let's take
Speaker 7: this first spin. So sometimes that's that is what you get.
Speaker 2: How did how did this case get Manhattan jurisdiction? And
Speaker 2: that I believe that a lot of the partying supposedly
Speaker 2: went on he at homes in California and Florida. I'm
Speaker 2: just curious from a jurisdictional point of view, how it
Speaker 2: ended up in New York City.
Speaker 8: I mean, when you have so many tentacles they don't have,
Speaker 8: it doesn't have to be much to get you to
Speaker 8: be within the federal jurisdiction. They just literally have to
Speaker 8: have one one thing that happened of all those things,
Speaker 8: and it could even be a money thing that happened there,
Speaker 8: and that's that's where they wanted to do it. So
Speaker 8: that's where they indicted. You see that a lot in
Speaker 8: with the federal government. I mean they will, they'll meet you,
Speaker 8: you know, in a big multi party drug conspiracy that
Speaker 8: involves people in other countries.
Speaker 7: You know, they're like, why am I in Missouri? Why
Speaker 7: are they trying this here?
Speaker 8: You know, well, you know, we're going to make you
Speaker 8: come to the quick trip just on the other side
Speaker 8: of you know, I forty and and okay, yeah, so
Speaker 8: they get you kind of where they want. But when
Speaker 8: when there's so many issues in moving parts to a
Speaker 8: case in a case like this that they don't need
Speaker 8: much to get you where they want, and that that's
Speaker 8: why they are there.
Speaker 2: Does see you have high profile defense attorneys, anyone that
Speaker 2: the public would know, or just the best defense attorneys
Speaker 2: he could find. I'm sure, I'm sure he's got the
Speaker 2: finances to hire a good company counsel.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: One of his lawyers is named Mark Agnifilo, who I
Speaker 8: don't know if he's related to uh the I don't
Speaker 8: know if he's related to Luigi Manngioni's attorney. Maybe there
Speaker 8: maybe their brother's sister, maybe their spouse. Maybe it's just
Speaker 8: two random Agnifilos, Yeah, last name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ok.
Speaker 7: Yeah, not not a lot of those guys running around.
Speaker 2: Not quite as common as Smith, that's for sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, not not not so much. But then uh,
Speaker 8: another one is I believe Mark Gerago's son is also.
Speaker 2: One of his Las Vegas well, well know big.
Speaker 7: And the lawyer. Uh. And I was going to say
Speaker 7: here one of.
Speaker 2: The questions, one of the questions, you know, some people say, well,
Speaker 2: here's this trial coming up in May of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: He became down last September. So it was the Biden
Speaker 2: Justice Department that brought the case. This is not a
Speaker 2: case that was brought by the newly installed administration. And
Speaker 2: I think that's that needs to be pointed out because
Speaker 2: obviously there it was investigated and the that was brought
Speaker 2: by the Biden Justice Department.
Speaker 7: You're absolutely right, And I think that's what.
Speaker 8: A lot of folks sort of loose track of is
Speaker 8: that our attention naturally goes to a lot of a
Speaker 8: big sexier pardon upon right, a lot of the big
Speaker 8: sexier you know, things that have to do with immigration
Speaker 8: and Abrego Garcia and you know, all the litigation over
Speaker 8: El Salvador and all of these things, and we tend
Speaker 8: to view these things with the political lens. The reality
Speaker 8: is it is ninety eight per cent of the Justice
Speaker 8: Department is doing really really meat and potatoes work. They're
Speaker 8: investing Medicare, They're investigating medicare and medicaid fraud, PPP loans
Speaker 8: that are fraud, H one B visas, and other types
Speaker 8: of immigration fraud. Those are things that were investigated very
Speaker 8: thoroughly by the Biden administration. And maybe there's an uptick
Speaker 8: with Trump, but you don't see a lot of changes
Speaker 8: in those things. They go after human trafficking, they go
Speaker 8: after drug rings, fentanyl, oxycon, they go after all of
Speaker 8: these things. So ninety five percent what they do just
Speaker 8: really hasn't changed. And I think that that's a good
Speaker 8: This is a good example of that. And one thing
Speaker 8: I was going to point out too kind of talking
Speaker 8: about the lawyers. James Comey, the former director of the FBI.
Speaker 8: His daughter is one of the federal prosecutors on the case.
Speaker 8: So the prosecution has kind of their star team at
Speaker 8: this as well.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: It'd be interesting to see how it works out. Have
Speaker 2: they anyone recommend to us suggested, as this is got
Speaker 2: to be probably a two or three month trial, I'm
Speaker 2: assuming if this is not a quick.
Speaker 7: One and done can't be Yeah.
Speaker 8: There they are only two thirds of the way through
Speaker 8: jury selection right now, and and I think opening statements
Speaker 8: are our scheduled for the twelfth. This thing, I want
Speaker 8: to say, six weeks is about right and uh and
Speaker 8: and in federal cases can go that long. I mean,
Speaker 8: you know it's hard because you want people to show
Speaker 8: up for jury duty. But then when when you know
Speaker 8: folks are listening to this and they say, what, I
Speaker 8: can go and be on the jury for six weeks? It, Yeah,
Speaker 8: it can be a pretty intensive thing when you when
Speaker 8: you have all of these when you have all of
Speaker 8: these charges, all of these witnesses, all of this evidence.
Speaker 8: I mean, can you imagine all the data that they
Speaker 8: must have here, all the cell phone data, computer data.
Speaker 8: It's quite an undertaking, and probably.
Speaker 2: If you're going to put those forensics in, obviously you
Speaker 2: got to have foundational witnesses to make sure that the
Speaker 2: jerry understands that these forensics are legitimate. And you know,
Speaker 2: you got to qualify the witnesses. You got to qualify
Speaker 2: their testimony. It's not just putting a guy or a
Speaker 2: woman up on the stand and say, FBI agent did this,
Speaker 2: you would look at this, I mean they do with
Speaker 2: It has to be done thoroughly.
Speaker 7: It has to be exactly exactly right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and and you know, just to to your point
Speaker 8: there too, that if if there was going to be
Speaker 8: a plea deal, that would be why right would be
Speaker 8: you know, if you spare us five weeks, if you
Speaker 8: give us five weeks or six weeks of our life back,
Speaker 8: you know, p Diddy, if you'll do that, then then
Speaker 8: then we'll give you ten years of your life back
Speaker 8: right on the plea deal. So if you were going
Speaker 8: to see plea deal, that would probably be why.
Speaker 2: Well, we will see Jeremy as always appreciate your time
Speaker 2: and your expertise, and uh, it's it's amazing. We have
Speaker 2: the Karen read trial going on up here, which is
Speaker 2: not a federal trial. He since state trial, but has
Speaker 2: generated a lot of national and international publicity for someone
Speaker 2: who before this was not known, not nearly as well
Speaker 2: known as a superstar rapper. So I can just imagine
Speaker 2: when this case really gets going and it's where everybody's
Speaker 2: going to understand it before it's over, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, counselor thank you so much.
Speaker 7: I have a great night you too.
Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to finish up with
Speaker 2: five foods that could damage your brain. Doctor Patrick Porter's
Speaker 2: been a guest before. He'll join us right after this
Speaker 2: break on Nightside. My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to dtor Patrick Porter. He's an expert in
Speaker 2: brain health and founder of brain Tap. We all could
Speaker 2: use a little brain tap, Doctor Porter, how are you tonight.
Speaker 4: I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Nightside. We're going to talk about five
Speaker 2: foods that damage your brain and increase your dementia risk.
Speaker 2: Every one of the times I read these articles, I
Speaker 2: get really depressed. It's like I think the only thing
Speaker 2: that's safe to eat now is tofu. What's going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're finding that the onset of all
Speaker 4: these people experiencing dementia, even as young as you know,
Speaker 4: they've had people as young as twenty seven years old
Speaker 4: and forty year old, is not an exception to the rule.
Speaker 4: And I think it is a lifestyle problem. I mean,
Speaker 4: the ultra processed foods there is probably the number one,
Speaker 4: because people eat things out of canbottles and wrappers all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we're talking ultra prep ultra processed foods,
Speaker 2: high levels of sugar, salt added as preservatives, artificial ingredients,
Speaker 2: unhealthy fats, and it just goes on and on and on.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that that look many years ago. Let's go
Speaker 2: back to like the nineteen sixties and seven these fifty
Speaker 2: years ago. Everybody who's eating fast food, they were going
Speaker 2: to McDonald's and Burger King. That stuff wasn't good for
Speaker 2: you back then, was it?
Speaker 4: Well? Back then, actually used to be. McDonald's only had
Speaker 4: three ingredients in their in their fries. Now they have
Speaker 4: over seventeen, so they've they've added things in. There's actually
Speaker 4: something called excitotoxins, and they've added them into the foods
Speaker 4: to get you to basically reset your appetite so you
Speaker 4: have to eat more.
Speaker 2: So is it you said they excito toxins? Is that
Speaker 2: what the.
Speaker 4: Words you used? Yeah, well, even salt and sugar is cytotoxin.
Speaker 4: But now they're chemically manual. They're mostly natural foods, but
Speaker 4: when they combine them with the food, you basically want
Speaker 4: to eat more. Well, I remember when quarter pounders. You
Speaker 4: remember when quarter pounders came out, people thought that was crazy.
Speaker 4: Who's gonna eat a quarter pound of beef? Now you
Speaker 4: can get a double quarter pounders, you know?
Speaker 2: So what about what you would think anything that is
Speaker 2: said something toxin that the food and drugmen and administration
Speaker 2: might say, not sure about that toxin?
Speaker 4: Thin?
Speaker 2: Can you explain that to us a little bit more?
Speaker 2: Wherever the regulators seriously?
Speaker 4: Wells, most food is not regulated like that. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's not going to kill you today, so it's okay,
Speaker 4: it's going to kill you over time. And what happens
Speaker 4: is the body creates an accumulation of these toxins, and
Speaker 4: that's what's causing the problem. These foods caused this. Basically,
Speaker 4: plaquing in the brain is what we're talking about, because
Speaker 4: it doesn't know what to do with these substances in
Speaker 4: the body.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's assume that tonight someone is listening and
Speaker 2: whatever age they are, or that they're twenty seven, forty
Speaker 2: sixty or eighty, and they say, what can I do?
Speaker 2: You know, however old you are, all this stuff that
Speaker 2: you've ingested over the years, is there some sort of
Speaker 2: an antidote that is out there that can eliminate this
Speaker 2: stuff or diminish it? Or is it really you are
Speaker 2: what you eat and it's however old you are, whatever
Speaker 2: you've eaten during life. Good luck.
Speaker 4: Oh no, you can clear it out. I mean the
Speaker 4: bodies that everybody's listening with right now, You and I,
Speaker 4: our bodies, the cells that make up our body are
Speaker 4: no more than two years old. Okay, it's matter of what.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so we're we can clear those out. The
Speaker 4: number one thing they need to do is substitute all
Speaker 4: their soda pops and other things that have carbonation and
Speaker 4: start drinking water, because that's going to be the one
Speaker 4: thing your body needs. Your brain is mostly fat in water.
Speaker 4: So most of the fats we eat, these trans fats
Speaker 4: and things like that, and especially fried foods. That's the problem. Really,
Speaker 4: so they need to start eating more is omega threes
Speaker 4: in omega six is like I think we've talked before
Speaker 4: about doing olive oil. But there's if you look at
Speaker 4: like eating more of avocados natural fats, because if we
Speaker 4: if we were to take all the water out of
Speaker 4: the brain, sixty percent of that brain would be fat.
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's here's my question. Here's my question. Okay,
Speaker 2: and this is the truth. Okay. And ten years ago,
Speaker 2: years ago, I changed my lifestyle a little bit. The
Speaker 2: biggest thing I did was I lost thirty five pounds
Speaker 2: through a program that I support called Awaken One to
Speaker 2: E And I've been able to keep that weight off.
Speaker 2: And one of the ways that I figured out I
Speaker 2: could lose the weight easily. And this was just me.
Speaker 2: I wasn't talking to you at the time. I wish
Speaker 2: I had, but all of a sudden it was brought
Speaker 2: to my attention. I was a big pepsi guy. If
Speaker 2: you and I went out to lunch, I would have
Speaker 2: eaten a burger, fries and two pepsis, forty one carbs
Speaker 2: in every pepsi. Now I don't drink colas anymore except
Speaker 2: an occasional rum coke, and I really do a lot
Speaker 2: of water by doing this show. I have to drink
Speaker 2: water at night just to stay you know, lubricated, and
Speaker 2: I drink water with meals. I got to feel it.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping you're going to tell me that even though
Speaker 2: I didn't do it for the intention that we're talking about,
Speaker 2: that inadvertently that helped me.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean those two sodas you were talking about,
Speaker 4: that's every five grams of sugar. I mean every five
Speaker 4: calories is a gram of is a gram of sugar,
Speaker 4: So I mean tablespoons of sugar. So think about that
Speaker 4: coke was you know, like eight tablespoons of sugar. That's
Speaker 4: the biggest cytotoxin. And the other thing that people don't
Speaker 4: realize about, even diet soda, is that when you drink
Speaker 4: one twelve ounce can you need three. You need thirty
Speaker 4: six ounces of water to flush it out of your system.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I know, I am so happy to hear this.
Speaker 2: And for example, I was surprised. One of the things
Speaker 2: you're talking about high mercury fish and it looks like swordfish. Yes,
Speaker 2: so you're saying don't eat sword fish, but other fish
Speaker 2: are Okay, I'm just trying to make sure that we
Speaker 2: can dispense your information here as cleanly and as clearly
Speaker 2: as we can.
Speaker 4: Right, you want to eat fish have a short life,
Speaker 4: like salmon and sardines and trout and hearing these are
Speaker 4: rich in omega threes when I was talking about that,
Speaker 4: So when you think about these foods, the longer the
Speaker 4: fish lives because all the toxins that are in the
Speaker 4: water and all the mercury they eat other fish and
Speaker 4: it stores in their systems. So then we're eating these
Speaker 4: toxic fish, so okay, So what about we.
Speaker 2: Eat a lot of cod off the coast of New England.
Speaker 2: Is cod a long living fish or a short living fish?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know about cod. I think it's healthy.
Speaker 4: I think it's healthy because a white fish, you can
Speaker 4: tell where the toxins are because the usually ob silver
Speaker 4: or dark color. Sometimes the dark on the belly is fat, okay,
Speaker 4: and that's where the toxins are going to be stored.
Speaker 2: Okay. And then what about Obviously alcohol is a problem.
Speaker 2: We've already everybody said you you drink a lot of alcohol,
Speaker 2: and I think you've told me before that beer and
Speaker 2: wine is just as bad as hard liquor correct.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, if they've done studies for you,
Speaker 4: if you just drink one drink a night you're going
Speaker 4: to have you're gonna shrink your brain about three quarters
Speaker 4: of an inch. But the biggest problem is that they've
Speaker 4: actually found out that taking like fasting days, don't drink
Speaker 4: every day. You know, if you're gonna drink, also make
Speaker 4: sure you have fat, fiber, and protein with your meal.
Speaker 4: That's why when you usually go to a wine tasting
Speaker 4: or something, they have cheese there. Yeah, because they found
Speaker 4: out people were getting drunk too fast because it's just
Speaker 4: sugar's going right to your brain. So you want to
Speaker 4: slow down that sugar. So only you should only drink
Speaker 4: when you're eating, if possible, you know, I know sometimes
Speaker 4: it's not possible, but the thing is that you want
Speaker 4: to slow that down so it doesn't just go directly
Speaker 4: to your brain.
Speaker 2: All right. And then the other one here, And I
Speaker 2: know I'm pushing you tonight, but I really Aprea, because
Speaker 2: you're a great guest of artificial sweetness. I'm a coffee
Speaker 2: guy and I'll have splendor in my coffee. But after
Speaker 2: having read what you just said about artificial sweet sweetness.
Speaker 4: I got to get rid of that, right, Yeah you wanna,
Speaker 4: you want to? You could? What's even better if you
Speaker 4: you know, cane sugar is actually a fruit. Okay, so
Speaker 4: real cane sugar, A little bit of that would go
Speaker 4: a long way. And the artificial sweeteners even though they
Speaker 4: don't they don't have sweeteners, but your body doesn't know
Speaker 4: the difference. Your body treats them like you're eating two
Speaker 4: hundred times the sugar. Look you're reading, so.
Speaker 2: Where do you get Where do you get cane sugar?
Speaker 2: Does that sold the supermarkets?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah you can. You can just make sure you get
Speaker 4: cane sugar. That's raw cane sugar. Okay. They have a
Speaker 4: brand called Sugar and the Raw.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, doctor Porter, I love this these interviews.
Speaker 2: I thank you for your time. I want to have
Speaker 2: you back more often because I think we have to
Speaker 2: reinforce this in people's minds. I really do for people
Speaker 2: to develop better habits, and I really appreciate. Is there
Speaker 2: any book that you're taught that you could direct people
Speaker 2: to anything that would be helpful for them this you
Speaker 2: might have written.
Speaker 4: Well, that book, I'm ready my book that's coming out.
Speaker 4: We'll have a lot of it's coming out in October,
Speaker 4: though it's called the book.
Speaker 2: I promise you this, I promise you we'll we'll do
Speaker 2: stuff between now and then next time we have you on,
Speaker 2: let's talk about the effort to get that book done,
Speaker 2: and then we'll plug the book when it comes out,
Speaker 2: because I just think it's having that book in my
Speaker 2: kitchen is going to help me and my family, and
Speaker 2: I want other people that get that book as well.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Doctor Patrick Porter. You're the best. Appreciate You're so clear
Speaker 2: on this and so affirmative. It helps me and I
Speaker 2: hope it helps my audience. Thank you, sick again so
Speaker 2: much for your time tonight. Thanks doctor Patrick Porter. We'll
Speaker 2: have him back when we get back. We're going to
Speaker 2: talk about a couple of Massachusetts sheriffs. We got a
Speaker 2: lot to cover in the next hour, and I think
Speaker 2: it will be interesting and I also think it can
Speaker 2: be fun. We'll be back on the night's side right
Speaker 2: after the nine o'clock news