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Speaker 3: Oh, oh, okay, we we can. Let's do that one

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more time. This is Jesse Rutstein and Caleb Dyer. Oh crap,

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hold on, what do you want me to say?

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Speaker 3: From Hatchet act from and then I'll say, you're listening right?

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Speaker 3: Caleb Dyer from Hatchet Axon Saw Records.

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Speaker 4: Actually, what did I say?

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Speaker 2: This is Jesse Rutstein and Caleb Dyer from Hatchet Axon

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Saw Records. You are listening to Matt Connorton Unleashed on

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ninety five three w NA. Dude, this is Jesse Rutstein.

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Speaker 3: And Caleb Dyer from Hatchet ax and Saw Records.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Matt Connorton Unleashed on ninety five

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point three wm nh FM.

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Speaker 5: What Matts wakes up in the morning?

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Speaker 6: He gets into the shower and to the top of

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his lungs, he sings.

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Speaker 5: All right Bank the radio show now all the best

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and Jammy, thanks Jerry, Welcome back everybody. We have entered

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our number two numerow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed. We

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are live from the studios of wm NH ninety five

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point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Today is Saturday,

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August twenty third, twenty twenty five. Jenny is here at

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the news table, President and accounted for and joining us

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online right now. Charles Richardson from the Charles Richardson Show.

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Charles are you there?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Also President accounted for, Yes.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Wow, you brought a crowd. I love it. A

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studio audience. How are you, man? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely this has been this is being recorded in front

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of a live studio audience.

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Speaker 5: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: But not really.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: I'm listening to I was, I was listening to the intro.

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I was just coming out and said, listen. Even Will

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Ferrell's movies have a only a significant number of outtakes.

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I mean, that was just that was that was brutal.

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So I'm glad. I think, get done.

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Speaker 1: So now things are right down here. It's not ninety

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eight and sweating, so but it is what it is

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in Florida.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I always get a little bit, you know,

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because here, you know, you get to this point in

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August it starts to cool off, and I get a

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little melancholy about it because summer is my favorite time

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of year. I love summer, and when it starts slipping away,

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it's like I don't like it. I don't mind the heat,

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you know, so, but it's humid where you.

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fan of winter. So whenever it starts to feel too

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hot to me, I just think about winter and how

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much I don't like the cold, and then I'm fine

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Get back up there to my mine down here where

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where you're comfortable.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, so uh now.

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Speaker 1: How would how would Jenny? How would Jenny treat the

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nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

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definitely ramps up symptoms. So I end up stuck in

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not not bad. But yeah, when it gets up above ninety, yeah,

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then Jenny's usually ready for the air conditioning. But so, now,

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do you want to give us any before we I

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know we're going to talk some wrestling and and I

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podcast Eric Pilter and I do. And by the way,

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but I know with his schedule it might not be

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possible for him. So but if not, he'll hear this later.

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for because longtime listeners of this program are familiar with

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newer listeners might not know. So for the uninitiated, do

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you want to tell us about about your show?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, it's a it's a very lame comparison to

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your show. Interviews we don't do. So it is basically

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a hodgepodge of topics that were just throwing together. Uh,

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some humorous, some serious. Uh. Me and my wife usually

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to a formula where it's gonna be more fun. We uh,

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last Wednesday show. We had everybody join us. So with

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able to run Jeopardy. Uh So it was actually it

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was actually be cool the first time I had a

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game on oh in so long, and it was so

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much fun it and time flow. It was just like, man,

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we gotta go already. Yeah, So it was a lot

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of fun to have a whole bunch of people on.

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the show. When are you on?

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ten pm Eastern Time. And we're on primarily Facebook and YouTube.

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competitive to yours. It's called Power one Radio. It's the

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number one and we primarily played twenty four to seven,

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with the exception of the show eighties and nineties dancing.

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that that that's awesome and Christian. If you still want

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to DJ, you're welcome to if you.

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Speaker 5: Want oh interesting, interesting? What are are they looking for

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much involvement you have in that station, Like, is the

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station looking for DJs?

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's my it's my personal creation and.

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involvement right now. I'm just kind of overshadowing. I'm like

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pretty interactive back then. But eventually, when I go ahead

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, yeah, And of course people can google it

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always necessarily being consistent with with when it's on. I've

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been having conversations with people recently about because you know, obviously,

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political podcast that I'm doing now called Hanging Left with

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of this show for you know, conversations and things that

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we want to do that are not that do not

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but we haven't been doing those. None of the podcasts

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that I'm currently doing are on any particular schedule because

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political streamers now, like the ones you see, especially the

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media accounts, They get as many people as they can

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notifications and they either join the show or they just

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that's who I want to be. I want to do

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that that. I want to be heard on multiple stations

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all over the country. Ye I want to be that.

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dude in Miami. But that's who I want to be. Yeah,

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and ever since then, that's kind of what I have

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this show done for. It's yes, I'm not making any

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money on it. I don't. I do it for the

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for thirty plus years. I'm still I'm still gunning with

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a microphone. Hell, transform in my garage now we're actually

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finally got the money, transform it, building it into a

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studio slash art area for my wife. And this this

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to be now my kids play area. But still with

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the idea of doing a show, expanding it, not making

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any money on it. That just shows you, like kind

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of like in depth of how I want to be.

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I want to keep that type of schedule because I

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podcast is like I mean, it's a certain niche for

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The wrestling podcast.

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Speaker 1: So the podcast is the podcast that's called the Josh

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Zodiac Podcast. It stars him his brother called the Psycho Nerd.

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Don't even ask me and and myself. So, and there's

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a there's another co host that he's that he's brought

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on and she's pretty good too. She's very knowledgeable. And

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when we were doing the live pls, I do the

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live recording. He does the podcast. Okay, So when there's

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one that does it through my channel and he joins

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in with with everybody and you know we cover the matches. Yeah,

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but but he does this, it's like an hour. It's

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it's an hour podcast and discuss various different topics, usually

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about Ross SmackDown and what's going on with the next

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about Hogan, we talked about Carrying Cross and Scarlett not

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So it's like, you know, we don't discuss because I know,

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Tough Bumps you focus on one topic and you guys

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go on it for for however long the show is

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maybe two. Not well you talk about several topics.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, we actually do. We actually do several topics

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on Tough Bumps. What we do is so we have

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the main event. Every week, we pick a subject that

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we're going to cover and and then but we also

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we have briefer conversations about leading up to the main event.

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of the history of ae W, so we kind of

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we kind of do it that way. But I mean

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that's but that's another great thing about podcasting too, is

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you know you can do it anyway you want to.

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it can devolve, it can you know, however you want to,

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however you want to do it. I feel like you've

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have you worked with Josh Zodiac before. The reason I

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ask is I've heard that name and I think I've

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heard you mentioned the name before Josh Zodiac.

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Speaker 1: No, I've actually just recently come on to his uh

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podcast U as an official co host. J He had

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me on a guest a couple of times. But it's like, hey, listen,

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you're really good. I like you the interaction that we have.

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sure if you want, absolutely, So Okay, usually every Saturday

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but no, it's it's only been for a few months now.

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Speaker 5: Oh cool, Okay, I may I may have heard of

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him elsewhere, then I might have U I might have

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seen something of Eric, might even know him. I don't know. No,

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that's very cool. That's very cool. And and and then

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so when of the wheer the new episodes come out?

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When should people look for him?

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Speaker 1: Is it two a week Sunday? Usually it's it's just

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it's just one a week. Usually they drop on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Okay, he is.

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Speaker 1: We're taking September off and then we're gonna ramp up

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afterwards to get ready for or after Survivor series, and

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then we'll go ahead and jump back into it. But

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I may I may do Survivor series on my end,

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because I know, I think what that's two nights now again.

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Speaker 5: The Survivor series two nights?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think they're all going to

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two nights. Crying out loud. That's what WW is all

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about right now, is that they're all about making money.

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And it's just really sad of how how downtry it

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is with the new ESPN deal going on. It's like, gee, whiz, guys,

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I mean, listen, you're already you're already firing up and everything.

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How about giving the fans a break.

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Speaker 5: Huh, yeah it is.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's just crazy.

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Speaker 6: I am not buying ESPN. No, I am not buying it.

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They can pound sand.

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Speaker 5: I'm done.

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Speaker 4: Well, I already have I got.

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Speaker 6: I got Netflix to watch raw, I got Peacock to

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watch PL's, I got you know, I gotta go to

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empty different places to watch stuff to begin with.

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Speaker 4: I'm done. I'm not chasing them to ESPN can pound sand.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: So I heard that if you already subscribe to ESPN,

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do your linear cable subscription. I think you're covered. Yeah,

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I have to go.

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Speaker 4: I don't do cable.

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Speaker 5: We got the we got the court a long time ago. Yeah,

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we don't have cable. We got the corn long time ago.

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Speaker 4: Ridiculous costs. It won't do it.

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Speaker 5: It's so expensive for But now, in terms of though,

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and this is a conversation that I had with Eric

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on Tough Bumps, the easy workaround is you just get

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a you know, you can get a VPN for like

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six bucks a month and connect to it because the

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pols will still be available internationally on Netflix, just not

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in the US. So you just get a you just

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get a VPN. Netflix doesn't know where you're connecting from.

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You can have access to everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean really or just or just or just contact

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me after the show and I'll go ahead and give

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you information about you know, adding you on to my

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family subscription on YouTube TV.

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Speaker 6: Ooh, well, I I agree with what you were saying before,

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and now it just went out of my head.

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Speaker 5: Oh about it it being so expensive now to be

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a fan?

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Speaker 6: Yeah right, it's really It really gives something back to

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the fans.

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Speaker 7: High.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we spend enough money buying, emptying different subscriptions

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to watch jumpting different things. And you know, but I

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agree with you one hundred percent, and I hate the

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direction they're going going in. I don't like the way

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they're treating talent, especially truth that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, I think talent's being treated a lot better

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than they were with Vince. To be honest with you,

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there may be some one offs, yes, for for talent

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that I think. I think Truth was brought back based

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on fan pressure, which if you think about it, wouldn't

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have not affected Vince one bit. But because the fans

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are calling out for names, Triple H is listening to

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the fans. So I think the talent is treated a

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lot better nowadays.

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Speaker 4: Agree, Well, maybe a little bit in that regard.

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Speaker 6: But to drop somebody with no notice, no nothing, just ah, yeah,

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we've been with us for decades, but goodbye, see it

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hour get out. That's the way that they've dropped people, Uh,

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you know, is awful. They don't have discussions with them.

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They just wait till the end and then go oh

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yeah you're gone. And people have been with them, their

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lives are invested. Yeah, that's how you treat people.

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Speaker 1: For Jenny, they da've they've they've done massive cuts before

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just to save They've done that way before. The truth. Yeah,

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it's just the fact of the matter that truth is

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such a such is so beloved. Yeah, it's such a

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he's basically I guarantee you when he retires, he finally

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hangs up his boots, I guarantee you he's going to

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be an ambassador.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he'll always have some sort of a connection

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to the company. I'm sure. Yeah, regardless, But uh not.

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Speaker 6: The only one though that they just drop like that. Well, yeah,

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I been around forever and it's just you're gone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do think.

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Speaker 5: I do think though, with with some people. I mean,

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if you reach a point where you don't think you can,

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you know, then.

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Speaker 6: Have a discussion with him, be honest, don't be like

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Cross all.

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Speaker 5: The well, the carrying Cross thing seems like a unique situation.

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Did you watch did you watch him? Excuse me, I'm

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losing my voice, Charles. Did you watch? Jenny? And I

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watched both the documentary The Killer Cross Part two slash

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My Contract just ended or whatever it's called. And we

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watched the Ariel Helwane interview where carrying Cross to me

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comes across no pun intended really well. And in the

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documentary both he and Scarlett come across really well, and

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it's it's easy to have a lot of sympathy for them.

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Did you watch either of those or both of those?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately I can't say I have. Yeah, but here's my

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take on Carrion's bro I'm gonna be honest with you,

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and this is just what I see. Either Creative has

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dropped the ball massively, yes, or Carrion just does not

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get over with the fans at all. I mean he

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number one. If you take a look at in ring work,

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I can see why the guy only wrestles one time

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a year. The guy is dangerous, you.

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Speaker 5: Think so that that match?

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Speaker 1: That match is dammy? Zaye, Literally are one or two

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inches where he could be paralyzed. The Yeah, it was.

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It was some scary stuff. Me, me and Joshua, We're

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talking about that match, and it's like, yeah, he is unsafe.

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He is unsafe. It's it's not a good performance at all.

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His character is lackluster at best. I loved it when

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he was with AOP and had the Final Testament, the Testament.

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That was where he That is where I think he should.

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He needs to be surrounded by talent. He cannot hold

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himself with his character. He cannot. So either creative is

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dropping the ball finding nothing legitimate that he can do well,

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or he just excuse my French sucks and he just

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needs to go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would definitely put it on creative because you know,

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just hearing the guy talk, even in see I've always

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been impressed with him in uh in interviews, various podcast

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interviews I've seen with him over the years and whatnot.

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He's so articulate and so interesting. It's like, how do

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you not find something to do with this guy? And

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then in recent days when he did that that promo

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that was like a worked shoot where you know he

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did he did that that promo after WrestleMania where he

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was complaining about not being on the show and and

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he threw down the microphone and said that's Killer Cross

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and everything, and then people really got behind him after that,

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and apparently his merchandise sales through WWE dot com spiked massively,

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and his book, his new book that just came out,

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Life Is Fighting, is doing very well. So there's clearly

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the fans want him, they want to get behind him.

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I put it all on creative how do you not

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make money with this guy? And I've always felt that

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like they they they did well with him in NXT

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when Triple H was running NXT, but then you know,

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they brought them up to the main roster. Vince was

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still in charge, so Vince immediately ruined him. They released him,

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they brought him back, and then the it's like they

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can't figure out what to do with them, and it's like,

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how do you not find something for this guy to do?

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You know, I don't know, not.

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Speaker 1: Not every n XT champion or or somebody that's rising

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up from NXT goes to the main roster and succeeds.

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It's just not that. And also there may be other

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works behind the scenes. There could be some back back,

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there could be some drama going on backstage, there could

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be some obviously creative differences, I'm sure backstage. But the

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thing is, though, just just seeing what I've seen on camera,

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it's very bland. It's it's it's not it's not entertaining

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for me at least. I mean again, it sounds like

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you and Jenny Field differently, but it's not entertaining for me.

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And and I find his wrestling style is very dangerous.

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Speaker 5: I will say I don't think his ring work. I've

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never noticed the dangerous aspect of that, but I would

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be curious, Like Jenny said, you know, maybe we'll go

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back and watch that match. But I will say I've

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never found his ringwork to be particularly spectacular. Like I

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don't expect to hear this is awesome chant during a

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Carrion cross match. No, but but again.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's far but it's it's far from spectacularly,

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it's down it's downright bad. It really is the the

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I don't know because listen, when you take a look

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and you're inside that ring, you are dancing with your

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dance partner. I mean, yes, it's kind of sad to say,

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because they're wearing tight, tight shorts and everything like that,

472
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,079
and you know, it's just you just think about that.

473
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,039
It's just like, Okay, you're dancing with a dude, all right, whatever, Sure,

474
00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:57,000
but they're dancing and your dance partner. Somebody has to lead,

475
00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:00,599
somebody has to Communication is always a spot mm hmmm.

476
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:05,960
Sammy Zain, whether it be with Jay Usso, whether it

477
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,680
be with the Bloodline, whether it be with Kevin Owens,

478
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,839
Sammy Zaine's beautiful, he's he he twinkled toes around that

479
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,759
ring like nobody ever. Sure, great, I seem carrying crossing

480
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,279
and I'm almost ready to cry because there is no

481
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,400
twinkle toes. Something's off and it's can't be Sammy, because

482
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,480
I've seen Sammy interact with other wrestlers and he is

483
00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:35,039
just beautiful. It's great. It's artwork. It's not art, it's

484
00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:38,799
it's just it's maybe it's not dangerous, but it's just

485
00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:39,359
not good.

486
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 5: I do think they had a good match at SummerSlam.

487
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,759
I thought it was I thought it was very good.

488
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,400
I mean, I you know, I didn't have any complaints

489
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,599
about it, certainly, but I think.

490
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Speaker 1: The I think the drama and the interaction, the interference

491
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,400
with scarlet with the bar. Yeah, I like that, but

492
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,400
there was a couple of bumps there where I was like,

493
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,119
please get up, Sammy, please get up. Please don't do

494
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,000
the referee, don't do the x.

495
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:06,839
Speaker 7: Uh.

496
00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:09,039
Speaker 1: It's just it's there's there's some of the bumps that

497
00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:12,200
I just SAWD like, I mean, okay, that didn't look

498
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,240
that didn't look good.

499
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:15,559
Speaker 5: I do have to acknowledge my favorite part of any

500
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:17,720
carrying cross match has always been the entrance. I think

501
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:21,240
the entrance is incredible. I think I think that I

502
00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:24,559
think that's the whole thing is really good. But but

503
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,599
he also said.

504
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,519
Speaker 1: It is the best part of carrying a cross is

505
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:30,000
the entrance. You're absolutely right.

506
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Speaker 5: He did say during the uh the Ariel hill Wana

507
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:37,200
interview too that uh they so you said you didn't

508
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,920
watch it, correct, He said that, uh. He said that

509
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,880
it's it's really it's really good. But he said that

510
00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:47,880
they they did make him an offer. It's not that

511
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,359
they didn't make him an offer. They did make him

512
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an offer, but there were two things that there were

513
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,839
a problem. One is he wanted to know how they

514
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,519
arrived at that number, So I assume it was a

515
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:59,960
low number, because he again, there's been a just recent

516
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,480
there was a pretty big spike in his merchandise sales apparently,

517
00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:04,680
so they wanted to know how they arrived at number

518
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,920
at that number. He didn't say no, He just said,

519
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,039
you know, let's continue the conversation. And the other sticking

520
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,799
point was they did not offer her Scarlet anything. They

521
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:14,200
offered him a new deal. They did not offer Scarlet

522
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,720
a new deal. And he says that what they told

523
00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:21,119
him was that they would sign him, let's get your

524
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,519
deal locked in, and then we'll we'll figure out Scarlet,

525
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:28,359
which I can understand him being very concerned about that

526
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,720
for two reasons. Number One, she's a huge part of

527
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,680
the act. You know, it's hard to imagine him without her.

528
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,119
But also I would be worried about Okay, so you

529
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,319
want to sign me, You want me to hurry up

530
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:42,640
and sign this deal and then we'll and then we'll

531
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,079
deal with Scarlett afterward. I'm worried that there's not going

532
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,680
to be a follow through there. Okay, I'm going to

533
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000
sign this deal that you, for some reason, are in

534
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:51,640
such a hurry for me to go ahead and sign,

535
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,240
because you're telling me if I don't sign it, in

536
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,160
twenty four hours, you're rescinding the offer, no ongoing contract negotiations.

537
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,680
I either sign this or you resined, and then I'm

538
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,960
suppose to just trust you that then you're going to

539
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,799
talk to Scarlet or we're going to sit down and

540
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:09,720
negotiate something for Scarlett as well. That that is. That

541
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:12,880
sounded pretty sketchy to me. So I don't blame him

542
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,440
for saying no.

543
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that, because listen, what does my

544
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,319
deal have to do with Scarlett? Scarlett has her own deal.

545
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:25,039
How about we get Scarlett on board first and then

546
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:27,519
talk to me. I think, honestly it's a way to

547
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:29,519
go ahead and break this two apart. Because number one,

548
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,160
Scarlet's not a wrestler. She has not wrestled. She is

549
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,079
a valet. I think she hasn't she has Unfortunately, I think,

550
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,839
you know, I thought she had wrestled in the to

551
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,480
my recollection, if she had had a long time.

552
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, probably been a long time. But I mean I

553
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,359
know she takes bumps and everything. I thought she had

554
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:49,200
wrestled at one time. I'm looking it up now.

555
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: Yes, she she probably has trained before, Yeah, definitely look

556
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,920
it up. Yeah, but she's probably trained before to go

557
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,480
ahead and said bumps. But she's primarily a LA. And

558
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:04,039
I don't think WWE, especially with them cracking down on

559
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,759
salary and everything like that, I don't think they're gonna

560
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:09,319
go ahead and pay a LA, which is weird. You're

561
00:29:09,319 --> 00:29:12,519
going ahead and bumping up to ESPN for thirty dollars

562
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:15,440
a month. You're already telling people to pay for Netflix

563
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:20,240
for raw and you're cutting salary really okay, I mean,

564
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:22,279
I you know, I don't get it.

565
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking on Wikipedia.

566
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,359
Speaker 4: It looks like a peacock for the ples.

567
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:31,559
Speaker 5: Yeah and US.

568
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,119
Speaker 1: And they're also bumping up because they said when they

569
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,920
signed this deal with ESPN that their first pl E

570
00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:42,680
was gonna be wrestle Mania next year. They're bumping it

571
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:46,440
up to ye something called Russell Polluta yep for in

572
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September yep y she with.

573
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Speaker 4: I think their money. I think they're greedy as heck.

574
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 6: They got that company's got so much money now then

575
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:02,160
Nicol and Dive in the R artists who are contracted,

576
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,799
they don't get healthcare. They got to pay their own

577
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:07,440
healthcare everything else, right, That's why I think people don't

578
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:10,000
understand that sometimes too, because they think they're employees. Right,

579
00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:15,519
they're non employees. They're they're independent contract Yep. They got

580
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:19,400
to work around from the government basically, and it stuck.

581
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: They Yeah, they're I mean, obviously there's there's another wrestling

582
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:27,599
promotion out there. If you don't wake it a WWE

583
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,359
go over to the AWE. What they can do? You got

584
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,799
full creative control. You have another con and debt that

585
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,960
didn't charge. So you go from Tony to Neck or

586
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:39,359
Nick to Tony. I don't know, I forget whose con

587
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:43,640
is open. They're both cons.

588
00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 5: Sorry, I had to do it.

589
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: God, I can't go over to the aw there. You

590
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:55,160
know they you know they're they're thriving as well. I mean,

591
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,519
look how awesome they are. I mean, look, I mean

592
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,200
just just think about it. Chris Jericho went from w

593
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,279
w E to aw possibly back to WWE most likely.

594
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:04,799
Speaker 4: I thought that.

595
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:10,359
Speaker 1: Come on, now, Tody Rhoades goes ahead and flicks off WWE.

596
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,440
When he goes to aw it's back to WWE. Yeah,

597
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,400
what's going on? How come eight you can't keep their talent,

598
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,200
talent that they take from WWE. Well, it's not working out.

599
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:23,759
Next thing, you know, we're getting Dean Ambrose back, right,

600
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,400
is that what's gonna happen next? Oh?

601
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: I hope, so, I hope. So that was something that

602
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:30,359
Eric and I talked about too on Tough Bumps. So,

603
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:31,680
by the way, if you're just joining us, we have

604
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:34,640
Charles Richardson from the Charles Richardson Show on the line

605
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,480
with us, and and uh oh, and of course the

606
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,240
pot what's the name of the wrestling podcast? Is it

607
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:46,240
the Josh Zodiac Show? Yes, the Josh Zodiac Podcast, the

608
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:47,960
Josh Sodiac Podcast. I want to make sure I get

609
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,519
it right. When uh? When when we did?

610
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Speaker 2: Uh?

611
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Speaker 5: Yeah, this past Sunday on the newest edition of Tough Bumps,

612
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,559
it was a history of a W and Eric and

613
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I talked a lot about how the worst thing that

614
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:04,039
happened to AEW was And Eric and I disagree on

615
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:05,599
a lot of things, but on this I think we

616
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,680
agreed is that when when Vince ended up having to

617
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permanently leave WWE because with Triple H in charge of

618
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,359
creative Because the whole reason that a w was so

619
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,000
successful in the beginning and to a large extent still

620
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:24,720
is I mean, doing thirty thousand people in a stadium

621
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,599
in Texas is pretty impressive, but the reason they were

622
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,240
so successful initially was because they were offering an alternative

623
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:34,000
to what had become very very stale, a very stale

624
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:37,240
product under Vince. I was saying to Eric, you know,

625
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,720
for years, I didn't even sit down. I wouldn't even

626
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,240
sit down and sit through an episode of Raw or SmackDown.

627
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,720
I would just go on YouTube and find find out

628
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,720
whatever happened and just watch whatever clips looked interesting to me.

629
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And that was it. So I never fully disengaged from

630
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,640
the product. But so, you know, so AW was filling

631
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,720
that void. And then of course Triple H, who I

632
00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:01,279
wasn't surprised because I was watching that X because when

633
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,000
Triple H was in charge of NXT, NX was phenomenal.

634
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And uh, you know, so when Triple H got to

635
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,680
take over full creative, on the full roster, on the

636
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,359
main roster, you know, that was all of a sudden

637
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,240
ae W. It's kind of like, don't really need it

638
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:19,559
after all now that WWE is running on all cylinders

639
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,799
again for the first time in a long time. But

640
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,519
that's but I do think that ae W is a

641
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,519
net positive for the business. I think that the wrestling

642
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,640
business always thrives when you have competitive forces within it.

643
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,599
The more promotions that are successful, the better because a

644
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,200
high tide raises all ships interests in wrestling. You know,

645
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,680
it's it's so strong right now. Even TNA Jenny and

646
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:44,559
I were watching a little bit of Slammiversary. Uh they

647
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:48,880
were that was their biggest North American crowd for Slammiversary,

648
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,960
almost eight thousand people. I think their partnership with WWE

649
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,039
helps drive that. But I do think AEW holds an

650
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:57,559
important place in the market, and I think there I

651
00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:59,359
think it's a net positive that they're around.

652
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's definitely going to be a net positive

653
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:06,960
for AW no matter what, because it's an alternative. And

654
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,519
when you can go ahead and finally get your creative

655
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:15,280
brains intact and actually bump heads literally sometimes and you

656
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,039
go ahead and get Edge and Christian back together, that's

657
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:22,519
going to generate some interest. Like, hmm, how is this

658
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,599
rated R superstar Adam Copeland gonna do with Christian Cage

659
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:32,679
now that they're reunited. M interesting storyline. It drove me

660
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,800
interest in AEW because I want to see what these

661
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,920
two are gonna go at, right, And that was the

662
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,400
first time I heard of Spike apparently with that bat

663
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:50,000
just oh gruesome. Yeah. Anyway, I'm like, I'm like, you

664
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,960
know what, let's see what happens. Let's see where they

665
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,840
go from here, because they're taking a definite tag team,

666
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,679
a formidable tag team, a feme tag team, and they're

667
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:06,000
bringing it to their forefront. Now let's see how they do.

668
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think, uh so, we don't. We don't

669
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:13,320
watch much a w uh Basically, if there's a you know,

670
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,039
if they have a a big event or something, there's

671
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:19,039
a website Toki video dot com that posts uh, the

672
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:21,880
individual matches from their pay per views, you know, usually

673
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,199
a week or two after they happen. But but yeah,

674
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I think I think, you know.

675
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Speaker 1: Are they not? Are they not? Are they not streaming

676
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,800
on Max? There are there there pay per views? I

677
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,559
know they're streaming like Dynamite in oh yeah Vision on

678
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:34,719
Max Max.

679
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we have Max Max. We've we've actually watched one

680
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,039
of the shows on Max. We've never watched any of

681
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:42,559
their p l E s on Max. But I think

682
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:45,920
you're right. Yeah, with all the streaming services, it gets confusing.

683
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,079
It's hard to keep up with it all.

684
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,559
Speaker 4: I'm ready to dump some.

685
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 5: But but part part of why.

686
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Speaker 1: It's amazing, it's it's it's amazing. Matt. Cut the chord. Yeah,

687
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,559
cut the cord. Everybody. Cut the streaming. You're spending more

688
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:06,599
now on streaming than you did.

689
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Speaker 4: I'm not.

690
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Speaker 6: I'm actually not spending more on streaming than I was

691
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:11,559
paying the cable because it was.

692
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Speaker 4: Expensive.

693
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Speaker 1: People are though, Oh yeah, a lot of people are

694
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:17,760
though cable.

695
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Speaker 5: Cable is far from dead, that's for sure. Yeah, I Uh.

696
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,480
Part of why we were having that conversation on Tough

697
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,840
Bumps was Eric is. Eric is much more negative on

698
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,360
a W than I am. Like I said, I think,

699
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,960
I think Uh. I think Cody Rhads his return to

700
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,920
w W E UH would not have been nearly as

701
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,400
important and as big a deal had it not been

702
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,880
for a e W even CM Punk, you know, I mean,

703
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,519
it still would have been a big deal him returning

704
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:53,360
to w W E his surprise appearance at Survivor Series

705
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,519
UH when he returned, But again, had it had it

706
00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:59,320
not been for his UH, had it not been for

707
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,320
a double getting him back into the game first, I

708
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,119
don't think it would have meant as much. You know,

709
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,480
I think AW. I think AW has directly benefited WWE

710
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:09,800
in some ways. I really do.

711
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:16,639
Speaker 1: I agree. And then I disagree because Cody Rhodes developed

712
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:20,400
himself in the Indies beforeaw even took place. That was

713
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:26,599
Eric's reinventive. That the American Nightmare persona theme song and

714
00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:30,119
everything was before aw right, So he actually went ahead

715
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:33,280
and created himself before then he was able to make

716
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,920
a stage on AW So I agreed to that point.

717
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,840
I agreed to that point that Cody went ahead and

718
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,440
turned some heads like, Wow, this guy can actually perform.

719
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:45,280
You don't have to put him in a goofy gold

720
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,800
out and called Stardust, right, that's great, see them punk

721
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,360
on the other hand, seem punk. On the other hand,

722
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,920
he had to try another promotion because of his experience

723
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,679
with WWE, his negative experience with w W and at

724
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:03,800
the time, uh, he went to aw vincent Stone charge anyway,

725
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,360
so why would he go back to a toxic relationship

726
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,320
with that, right? And of course if you haven't seen Unreal,

727
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,880
we watch you to know that. Yeah, it's it's that.

728
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,559
That's freaking great, it really is. But that right there

729
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:23,159
not even unreal, just just a hole behind the scenes

730
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:25,559
of how Sam Punk got back. It was the last

731
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,000
minute deal. This thing wasn't like Etched and Stone before

732
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,519
a Survivor series hit. Nobody knew except three people, and

733
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:35,920
one of them was AJ So he he and he

734
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:40,559
was hidden behind everything. He got into Gorilla Formation and like, wow,

735
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:45,079
seampunk is here. Yep, yeah, it's just he literally signed

736
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:49,719
that contract like ten minutes before. So there was a

737
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,840
coming to Jesus moment with Triple H saying, listen, we

738
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,440
know we messed up. We know this happen, happened, we

739
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,639
know that happened. This is how it is now. We

740
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,679
know there's a lot of wrongs that have been righted

741
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:04,800
and and this is this is what we can offer you.

742
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,679
And I think sam Plunk came back, but I think

743
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:12,000
he had to try another promotion to see what exactly

744
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,039
what it's like outside of w W E before he came.

745
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 5: Back, right right. I also have a theory you know

746
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:23,599
that you know that show that CM Punk showed up at.

747
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:25,519
This was when he was on the outs with ae W.

748
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:28,679
He was still under contract, but he he was out

749
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,519
with his with his injury. Poor guy, He's had a

750
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:34,239
lot of injuries. But so he was he was away

751
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,440
from the promotion and and of course it was an

752
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,400
ongoing story that he was at odds with some of

753
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,880
the people there and like Jack Perry and his relationship

754
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,519
with Tony Cohn was pretty strained. And then there was

755
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:46,920
that WWE show that he showed up at just to

756
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,320
say hi to some people backstage, and yep, and and

757
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,360
Vince Scott went and Vince got wind of it and

758
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,519
kicked him out. And and by the way, Vin Vince

759
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:58,679
I think was probably right to do that, because Vince

760
00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,920
does not want to be sued or contract hampering, you know,

761
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:04,840
because if he's aware of the situation, he knows. Assuming

762
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,480
he was aware, he knew that cmpunk was still under

763
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,599
contract with AEW but having problems. So it's not necessarily

764
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:13,159
a great look that, you know, while still under contract

765
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,360
with AEW, cmpunk is just showing up at a show.

766
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:21,840
But that night, apparently before before Vince gave word that no,

767
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,519
you got to get him out of here. We can't

768
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:26,079
have him in the building. Kick him out, he did

769
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:30,440
have a brief interaction with Triple H. I just wonder

770
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,400
how that interaction went because I have this I have

771
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,960
a theory. It's just a theory, I you know, can't

772
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,239
base it on anything, But is it possible that part

773
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,079
of that introduction Apparently it was very very brief, just

774
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,480
kind of saying hello to each other. But I wonder

775
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:49,239
if Punk said something like, you know, to Triple H, hey,

776
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:52,679
you know, someday, when I'm not under contract somewhere else,

777
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,800
I might like to come back here, you know, just

778
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,440
kind of throwing that out there on Triple H may

779
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,679
have said something like, hey, you know, if you weren't

780
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,960
under contract, we'd love to have you back. Who knows

781
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,840
what the future, you know, just something, just a brief

782
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,880
interaction like that, and they'll know, And if that conversation

783
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,960
did take place, they'll never admit it. But I just know,

784
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:14,079
but I can't help, but wonder if it did. You know.

785
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: I have my own theory and it's it's it's definitely

786
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,199
not wrestling related. So my theory is, damn Punk walks

787
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,000
up to Triple H and it's like, hey, how are

788
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,199
you and Stephanie doing? Yeah, we're doing great? And mean

789
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:32,840
you're doing great? Won't get together and have a foursome?

790
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:43,639
Speaker 5: Really that's your theory? And yeah, so well, Charles, I mean,

791
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:46,000
you're definitely thinking outside the box, because I can honestly

792
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:50,239
tell you with all the sincerity, that never occurred to me.

793
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure.

794
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 5: Yeah. So Uh, what do you watch any a W

795
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,039
now or do you only watch WWE?

796
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,199
Speaker 1: It's it's mainly WWE. But you know, I kind of

797
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,480
keep tabs on stuff with ae W like I you know,

798
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:15,480
I wouldn't have known about edging Christian. I knew they

799
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,480
were feuding with with with each other. I think, yeah

800
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:21,559
there was one time Christian hug Edge until you know

801
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:27,000
f oh yeah, yeah and that's okay, wow, yeah, but

802
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,880
you know, no, I I kind of keep tabs like

803
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,760
you know, apparently they got something going now, which okay,

804
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,920
maybe I might tune in to see what's going on

805
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,360
if they're advertised, uh, and and see what's doing. But

806
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,920
I'm primarily w W.

807
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll watch any Will Osprey match.

808
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

809
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:47,039
Speaker 5: And he of course, you know an A W and

810
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:49,199
you know, a big fan of MJF. Haven't kept up,

811
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:52,320
haven't kept up with what they've been doing. But well

812
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,039
there's so much. There's just so much content now, I mean,

813
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:58,000
and WWE is pumping out more content than ever.

814
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: Is JF like part of the hurt cyndykit now with

815
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:05,880
lash Lee in the MVP.

816
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,679
Speaker 5: From what I saw online, he was but now he's out.

817
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,480
They kicked him out or something, So I don't know,

818
00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:15,519
I haven't, but that's you know, it's hard though. See

819
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:17,719
that's the other thing with AEW. And this is something

820
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,119
where I think Tony Kahn probably has something in common

821
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:24,039
with Vince McMahon that wanting to have full control over

822
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:27,559
creative to the point where you know nothing's being delegated

823
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:29,960
or if it is being well. Obviously in WW Evans

824
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,119
was delegating because he had a full writing team, but

825
00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:33,800
then you know he'd end up tearing up the script

826
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,599
and rewriting it himself anyway, And I think that you know,

827
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,159
what AW needs, what Tony Kahn needs, is somebody or

828
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:42,039
a team of people who can do what Triple H

829
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:46,239
has done, recommit to long term, logical storytelling where you

830
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,599
can get really invested in these characters, because that's the

831
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:52,159
most important thing. That's what makes w WE, in my opinion,

832
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,320
so successful. Now I've argued to Eric that to me,

833
00:43:56,679 --> 00:44:00,920
wrestling is better than it's ever been because there's more,

834
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,400
there's more of a focus on long term storytelling. There's surprises,

835
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,480
but everything is logical, but also character development. I can't

836
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:09,440
remember ever, and I've been watching since I was a kid.

837
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,079
I can't remember ever a time when there was as

838
00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:14,559
much character development as we see now and a willingness

839
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:17,880
to make these characters complex and you know they've got

840
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,199
levels to them. That's why now you'll see babyfaces fighting

841
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,559
with other babyfaces that used to be never a thing,

842
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,559
but now you know you can have that, or heels

843
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:29,800
fighting with other heels because the audience has been conditioned

844
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,519
to accept these are complex characters and not everything is

845
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:36,000
black and white, and people who are you know, good

846
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,400
guys can actually fight with other good guys, and bad

847
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,400
guys can actually fight with other bad guys because you

848
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,559
know sometimes in real life that happens, right, So I

849
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:49,400
think AW if Tony Kahn would just allow somebody who

850
00:44:49,519 --> 00:44:52,159
really has a good creative mind, who can do what

851
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:55,599
Triple H has done, come into AW and recommit to

852
00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:58,679
long term storytelling, I think they'd be a lot more successful.

853
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,079
And they're already pretty SUCCESSFU well, let's be honest, but

854
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:02,760
I think they'd be a lot more successful.

855
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they still have a long way to go. They're

856
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,039
still in the baby's, the the infant stages, maybe even

857
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:13,119
the Toddless stages, but definitely, definitely. I do have a

858
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,119
couple of questions because I know, we're running out of

859
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:16,519
time here, so I want to I have a couple

860
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:19,800
of questions. Number one, and please assume that I have

861
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,519
not heard this on Tough Bumps. Okay, but tell me

862
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,920
what was your reaction to Hogan's death.

863
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 5: So we tried on Tough Bumps, we tried to present

864
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,440
kind of a measured, fair assessment. I mean, I can

865
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,159
tell you my personal reaction. When I saw the news

866
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:38,920
alert on my phone, I was kind of numb. It

867
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,840
was like wow, you know because, on one hand, a

868
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,239
huge part of my childhood, and obviously Hogan a huge

869
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,960
part of professional wrestling, something that I'm I'm passionate about,

870
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:53,719
so so it was like, wow, it's kind of stunning.

871
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,159
But it's also hard to get past because I don't

872
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:01,480
think he ever effectively dealt with it. You know, his

873
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:05,480
racist comments that were recorded during that encounter with Bubba

874
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:09,280
the Love Sponges wife, which is still even weird to say,

875
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:16,400
but you know, the just objectively extraordinarily racist, shockingly racist

876
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:19,679
things that he said during that conversation that was recorded,

877
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,760
which yeah, he did the whole apology tour and everything,

878
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,320
but he never really dealt with the central His comments

879
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:31,639
were very specific and he never dealt with specifically what

880
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,199
he was wrestling with, no pun intended when expressing himself

881
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,559
during that conversation. He never dealt with that specifically, at

882
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:43,039
least not publicly, and a lot of people felt like

883
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,239
his apologies were half hearted and insufficient, and he never

884
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,800
fully recovered from that, obviously, So we tried to So

885
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,159
we tried to be very fair about it, well, and to.

886
00:46:55,679 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: Be honest with you, he was apparently, in his private

887
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:04,719
life a very manipulative person. Because Brooke Hogan, his daughter,

888
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,679
called in on Bubba and they haven't spoken in years

889
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,960
because of the fallout between Hogan and Bubba. Yeah, and

890
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:16,840
Brooke even said that, hey, my dad told me about

891
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,679
the tape and he knew you didn't have anything to

892
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:22,960
do with it. Even though Bubba lost his home, he

893
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:26,760
got fired, everything that laid down, Hogan never came to

894
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,880
his defense, even though he admitted to Brooke that, yeah,

895
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,599
I know Bubba had nothing to do with it, right, So,

896
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:39,519
just on that alone, I think he was not a

897
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:41,880
good human being. Let's put it that way. Now. Is

898
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,159
that is that justified to say, like, well, thank god

899
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:44,639
he's dead.

900
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,599
Speaker 5: No, of course not.

901
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think the way he died. There's actually

902
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,960
a criminal investigation going on the that he may have

903
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,599
been murdered.

904
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 5: Jenny and I were talking about that earlier. There medical

905
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:03,000
medical malpractice. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah.

906
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: Question during a surgery.

907
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:08,559
Speaker 6: He had a surgery apparently recently, and there's question as

908
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:11,760
to whether or not his frontic nerve was damaged or

909
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,119
severed and restitched or something. And he also had a

910
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:18,079
fib so I guess the combo wasn't too good and

911
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:20,880
they think that might have actually been what caused his death,

912
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,239
in which case it would be a medical practice.

913
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: Okay. I don't know that there was a police investigation

914
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,719
going on. I think it's still going on.

915
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it's still it's still going on. It's still

916
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,159
going on. Yeah, could be wrongful death, who knows.

917
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,199
Speaker 1: Another question, Matt, how do you feel of Sina's so

918
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,280
called heel turn versus face turn? It Was that a

919
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,599
flop or is that do you think was successful?

920
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:56,199
Speaker 5: I so, I'm, I'm I know, I'm very much in

921
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,360
the minority when I say this. I loved, for of all,

922
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,920
the heel turn itself was amazing, and I think most

923
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,159
people would agree on that. The actual heel turn itself

924
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,719
was fantastic. It was so so, so well done. The

925
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,960
subsequent him as a heel, the heel version of John

926
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:15,480
Cena again, I know I'm in the minority. I was

927
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:19,239
really enjoying it. I understand why people didn't like that

928
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,239
he I think people a lot of people wanted him

929
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,280
to be more overtly evil and whatnot, where he actually

930
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:29,039
underplayed it. But I liked it. I thought it was cool.

931
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:32,079
I thought it was very intriguing. I really enjoyed it,

932
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:34,599
and I thought the face turn back seemed a little rushed.

933
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,119
What were you gonna saying? Packed out? Oh yeah, that

934
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:39,960
was so funny. Yeah, when he's like, I'm going to

935
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:41,199
ruin wrestling.

936
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: I loved that.

937
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,639
Speaker 5: I loved that too. I thought it was cool. I

938
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,960
really enjoyed heel John Cena. What did you think?

939
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I really enjoyed his promos, But it

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started to get a little repetitive, like he didn't have

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anything new coming out. It just kept saying the same

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thing over and over again. It's just it kind of

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got repetitive. So I think when Cody finally because you're right,

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it did feel rushed a little bit, but you saw

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bits and pieces of good Sena coming out the past

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few weeks before that, and I think I think they

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were trying to lead up to it, but obviously they

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wanted to take the belt off him and put on Cody. So, uh,

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mister Lesnar can go ahead a big introduction.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what do you think about that one coming back?

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Speaker 4: What do you think about Lesner coming back?

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Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. I know, I know

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it was basically it was basically John's wish to go

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ahead and wrestle Lesnar. That's why he's back. It's it

955
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has nothing to do with well, he's gonna draw big

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money and no, no, he'll he'll draw big money. But

957
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that was a request from Sina. Sina wants to get

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all of his his adversaries. Yes, it was reported Sena

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requested Lesno. Yeah, so he wants to fight Legend one more. Yeah,

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So this retirement tour is basically to get all If

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you ever seen Rocky five, where it's like, listen, I

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got to get the beast out of me. I can't

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hold on. He's trying to get the beast out of it.

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Literally in this case, he's trying to get the beast.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, she's take care of everybody that he

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needs one more time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense, which I

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don't agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't agree with Logan Paul. Why would

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he be on that list? I don't. I don't understand

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that that storyline one bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Charles, we are approaching the top of the hour,

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so we got to begin to wrap up. The time

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goes so quickly. But we should definitely do this more often,

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my friend, because uh, I always enjoy having you on

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and uh, you know, and anytime you want me to

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have be on your show, I'd love to do that

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as well. But I do want to make sure, so

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where should people go to find not only your show

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but also the show that you do with Josh Zodiac.

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I want to make sure everyone knows where to go

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to find your content.

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Speaker 1: So my show search the Charles Richardson Show on Facebook

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like my page. All my shows go live on that

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page from eight to ten pm Monday Wednesday, hopefully both

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and any interaction or possible topics I may be talking

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about will be listed there as well. That used as

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my reference sheet. Okay, YouTube, same thing, search search the

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Charles Richardson Show. I have a channel with so many subscribers. Kidding,

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but so many subscribers that you can go ahead and

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do it. It's free for now, but after that it's

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gonna be twenty nine ninety five. I'm launching my own

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app with competing against ESPN The Josh Zodiac Podcast. Same thing,

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Josh Zodiac podcast on all social media. He is available

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on podcast on the podcast on iHeartRadio, Apple podcasts, anywhere

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podcasts are done. You can search that that right there

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and boom it pops up.

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Speaker 5: Fantastic, fantastic. Well, Charles, thank you so much, my friend.

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Like I said, we must do this more often. And

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I really appreciate you. Appreciate you joining us today, and

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we'll talk again soon. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Just have Jenny getting contact with me. I'm able

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to do it, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, sounds great, All right, Charles, try to try to

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stay cool down there. I know it's hot, so and

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we'll talk to you all right. You got it? Thanks,

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take care all right. That was Charles Richardson from The

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Charles Richardson Show, and I always love talking to Charles.

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We got to take a quick break. We are approaching

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the top of the hour. We're gonna show some love

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to our amazing sponsors. And then when we come back

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in our number three for those of you listening live,

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