WEBVTT 1 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:34.799 Welcome to episode five fifty five of five and five. 2 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:38.200 It is Thursday, June eighteenth. I am your host, Greig Coldstein, 3 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:42.320 joined as usual by Patrick Tabuk and Jeffrey patron Ostro. 4 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:47.920 How's everyone doing today? Okay, just taking a long drink 5 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:52.039 of water. Patrick's nodding silently. Everything's going really good. 6 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:54.200 Very lime Seltzer, craig o. 7 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:56.119 Water. 8 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.880 I mean the kid calls it spicy water. 9 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.880 Yeah, that's a kind of water. Yeah, Seltzer is a 10 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.640 kind of water. I think I'm allowed to to say that. 11 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:09.079 Yeah. It was the last day of school to day, 12 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:11.959 which means I've spent the last two days driving back 13 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.239 and forth to school like ten times. Yeah. 14 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:19.879 Yeah, that's for the two of you spending time, yeah, 15 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:25.439 seven lone time in the car, you know, really, you know, 16 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:28.760 ultimately comes down to which audiobook I'm reading while I'm 17 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:30.519 driving for fifteen minutes at a time in the car, 18 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.000 and I didn't pick a great audiobook? 19 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:35.079 What are you? 20 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:35.959 What are you going to trash? 21 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.680 Now? It's actually a good book. It's a sports writer 22 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:43.319 by Richard Ford. Okay, it is just I am not 23 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:48.319 in the right place for a miserable divorced dad lying 24 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:51.640 to me about how miserable and divorced he is. And 25 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:57.879 it's fourteen hours long of that. It's a lot. And 26 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.719 that's that is my entire review of that book. It's funny, 27 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:04.640 like nothing has happened in the book. I'm about a 28 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:09.000 quarter the way through nowadays, I know when I keep 29 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:10.840 thinking about this, like when I was when I was 30 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:13.319 thinking about writing a novel when I was younger, thinking 31 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:15.520 I had to. One of the things that stopped me 32 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:16.639 is that I can't think. 33 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:20.560 Of plot, and I thought, you know, disqualifying. 34 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.000 It would be disqualifying. You think that something would have 35 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:25.840 to happen in the story, and as it turns out, no, 36 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:27.439 I just I'm never wrong. 37 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:28.680 Yeah, just early. 38 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.919 Uh, I have Finally, I've struggled to pick up a book. 39 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:37.680 I've been reading The Future, which I started a long 40 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:40.960 time It's by Naomi Alderman. I started a long time 41 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.560 ago and then put down. I don't even remember why. 42 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.000 But it's good. It's good the whole time. Things are happening. 43 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:49.680 Even early in the book. I would say, I'm not 44 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:52.520 quite halfway through, but I'm enjoying it. It is not 45 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:57.840 uplifting in the sense that it is about like it's a. 46 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:00.680 It's very much a commentary on the current age and 47 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:05.599 time and communication methods and like social media and society. 48 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:10.120 And it's good, though I don't know I would recommend 49 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:12.360 it thus far. I'll follow up when I actually finish 50 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:13.599 a book, which might be the end of the year 51 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:17.120 at this rate, but we'll see, Jeff. Anything you want 52 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:20.800 to oh, I will say, Patrick, one of the reasons 53 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:22.400 you said it was the last day of school. I know, 54 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:25.000 not to blow up your spot here, but you had 55 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:30.159 to participate in setting up for an eighth grade graduate school. 56 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:31.759 And I just want to take that as a springboard 57 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:35.319 for myself to reiterate my point, which is, I think 58 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:41.080 unless you're getting a degree, if you're getting some sort 59 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:45.120 of diploma, I don't think that there should be like 60 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:49.479 a parent involved ceremony. I think you should be honored. 61 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:54.639 I am all for celebrating and honoring the students at 62 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:58.479 any juncture, Honestly, I just don't think it needs to 63 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.719 be I don't think there needs to be Like you 64 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:05.280 said it was at night. It's what's that night is 65 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:09.400 is actual. That's like high school and college graduations are 66 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:10.439 are so. 67 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:12.159 Craig. 68 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.240 My college one was during the day. My high school 69 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:15.960 one wasn't night. 70 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.160 Craig is formally announcing that he doesn't think you should 71 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:22.680 go to your kids recorded recital. 72 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:24.120 Yeah, that's right. 73 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:27.319 That's what I asked if I could not, and I 74 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:29.720 want people to understand this, I asked not to go 75 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:31.040 to my college graduation. 76 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:33.360 I did, like I didn't go to my undergrad one. 77 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:33.720 I went. 78 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:34.600 I tried not to. 79 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:38.040 I went to my and then regretted it. 80 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:40.319 I went. I went to my I went to my 81 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:43.319 undergrad one, and my mom made me go. I said, 82 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:45.399 can we just skip this? I went to just some people. 83 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:49.639 I went to UMass Amherst, the large school. There was 84 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:52.120 no walking across the stage. 85 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:54.600 You do in the field house there that we were. 86 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:59.399 In the football stadium, and we were told as a school, 87 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:03.360 I in the school of management, and as a school 88 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:08.040 we were told stand up, yeah, congratulate, you know, switch 89 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:13.399 your tassel, sit down, and we after leaving that, my 90 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:17.560 mom like, we exit the state and whatever. My mom goes, yeah, 91 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:18.759 you're right. We didn't need to do this. 92 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:21.560 No, I mean, although the best part was probably when 93 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:25.160 somebody came up and gave a speech twenty years in 94 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:27.480 advance about how there's this going to be the thing 95 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:29.000 called AI and you'd better welcome it. 96 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:33.560 We we did not have a commencement speaker, so we 97 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.079 had we had like a student speaker. I would also 98 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:40.800 know Bill Murray. No, not Bill Murray. Bill, Why am 99 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.560 I Bill? Is it Packsing or Pullman? 100 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:43.759 Now? 101 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:51.120 I said Murray, back, it's the guy from from Independence 102 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:57.199 Day who gives this speech. Billah, yeah, okay, So a 103 00:05:57.199 --> 00:05:59.920 guy named Bill was up there, Bill Bill Pullman was 104 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:04.439 receiving an honorary degree. That yeah, and which was fine. 105 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:07.120 I don't care. But he was receiving an honorary degree, 106 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.360 and I thought, we don't have a like a like 107 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:13.279 a celebrity or even like a business person like commencement speaker. 108 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.399 You can't just get him up there to do theendancy. 109 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.319 I know people are against snary degrees, but like the 110 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:24.600 man did say the world no absolutely. 111 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:27.879 I look, I was thrilled to to celebrate with him. 112 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:31.399 What is he there? What is he getting an honorary 113 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.279 degree there for? If not to give a little speech. 114 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:36.319 At some point to say they gave him an honorary degree. 115 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:36.839 I don't even know. 116 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:41.439 Yeah, yess I don't anyway, Yeah, I am again I'm 117 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:43.600 against all of it and don't don't. 118 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.000 Don't go to the s And now we conclude the 119 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:47.480 single happiest segment of this. 120 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:51.319 Podcast, Craig saying, don't spend more time with your kids? 121 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:53.920 Are you with them? 122 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:54.439 Well? 123 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:54.920 Fair enough? 124 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:56.879 I guess every day could be a record of recital. 125 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:00.959 They have to fract You've heard it before, trust me, 126 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:03.959 all right? Our first segment, Natty. 127 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:07.000 Bow No, in a while I would bring it back. 128 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:11.160 Yeah. I wouldn't say my Raise take is aging that badly, 129 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.519 but in conjunction with my Orioles take, I wouldn't say 130 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:22.879 it's going well right. The Orioles are struggling. There are 131 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:25.199 four and six in their last ten, as are the Rays, 132 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:27.560 but they're not capitalizing on it. They are five under 133 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.360 five hundred. Still, they are a mere one and a 134 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:35.639 half games out of the wilds card. Of course, it's 135 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.480 not going great though. Nodbe Mayo was briefly hitting three 136 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.040 yrun homers every few games. He's since lost a lot 137 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:47.879 of playing time to Blaze Alexander, who in the Orioles defense, 138 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.720 and I guess somewhat a defense of Kobe Mayo, Blaize 139 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:59.399 Alexander has been absolutely incendiary. His line in seventeen games 140 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:04.639 since twenty seventh, four seventy seven, five, twenty seven point fifty. 141 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:09.720 I guess it's fair to lose playing time to that guy. Sure, 142 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:12.920 it's not helping them win enough games, so no, which 143 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:15.480 has led h There was an article at the Athletic 144 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:19.000 UH to Cal Ripken getting more involved on the field. 145 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:20.360 I did not get a chance to read this, so 146 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:21.759 I'm going to turn this over to Jeff. 147 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:25.199 Every organization needs their own Jeff Bagwell or Buster Posey, 148 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:28.279 and cal Ripkin is here to help with the fundamentals 149 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.559 because they don't focus enough on the fundamentals. There were 150 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.080 some players quoting Chris Bassett says they're not mean enough 151 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:36.159 to young players. 152 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:39.600 I'm sry, like specifically said they're not mean enough. 153 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.440 I mean that was the implication. I don't want to say. 154 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.080 I like that. The article does say, does go out? 155 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.519 I would says Bassett acknowledged his five point two seventy 156 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:52.559 RA as a factor. 157 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:54.639 Also, he was never a young player who was up 158 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:59.919 at like he didn't establish himself with Yeah, and then 159 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:04.960 Pete Alonzo had had a saying that it's too easy 160 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.559 for the minor leaguers nowadays because they play six games 161 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:10.279 and then have a day off. And it wasn't like 162 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:15.480 when he was there in twenty eighteen. You know, it 163 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.120 was the men were men and whatnot, and you really 164 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:21.159 had to grind and earned it, which led to a great, 165 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.519 great line in the Frog Kids discord. Remember who was 166 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:26.960 from saying I didn't know that old player skills included 167 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:34.440 takes and wass There's stuff in the background going on 168 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.240 with Sampasio and how injured he is or isn't. 169 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:39.840 They keep playing right? 170 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.120 Yes, yeah, but he sort of keep playing him. 171 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.799 Yeah, right, he's getting days off, but then they play 172 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:47.840 him even. 173 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:49.960 They're claiming he should be playing more. 174 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:51.440 At the end they go to give him a three 175 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:54.519 three day break to make sure he understand he needed 176 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:55.320 to play more often. 177 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:02.679 Yeah, I mean, what is it? 178 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:04.440 Is it good for all of this to be happening 179 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:05.799 under a first year manager? 180 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.200 Honestly, I mean, compared to the first year manager we'll 181 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:13.080 be talking about it a bit at least, this one 182 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:15.840 seems like he's kind of trying to figure out what's 183 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:16.399 going on. 184 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.559 Yeah, I just I mean, this was this is a 185 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:21.879 flawed team coming into the season. Obviously we've talked about. 186 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:25.559 I'm also paying and yeah, I just. 187 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:27.360 Want to say this in regards to Misiah, like they 188 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:29.799 want him to play more. His last twenty eight days 189 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:32.519 he has a just under seven hundred ops. Yeah, his 190 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:34.639 last fourteen days it's five forty two. 191 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:37.399 He might be playing through something, but she means they 192 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.360 basically said he's playing through something. 193 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:42.559 Which certainly has never happened with Orioles Catchers within like 194 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:43.720 the last two years before. 195 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:46.000 Madley Rashman is also a little bit beat up, and 196 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:47.519 he's come back to earth too. 197 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.759 I also likes, as I said, all off season looking 198 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:53.519 at Elie de la Cruz, and there was someone else 199 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:58.200 who I'm forgetting, but like, stop stop playing through this stuff. 200 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:02.440 It's not good, Like it is not actually helping. And 201 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:06.360 I know that the Orioles are not deep exactly, so 202 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.480 their other options aren't great. But like the best thing 203 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.440 that they can do is get psio. 204 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:15.840 But they also have to teach him how to play, 205 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:17.480 to be tough, and like if he if he plays 206 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:19.639 through enough injuries now he won't get hurt. 207 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:22.120 Like I mean, Jim Palmer, who you would think would 208 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.759 be a crotchety old man, I love this as he 209 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:26.759 is a crotchety old man generally he is. 210 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:29.480 But but he was like they're insightful. 211 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:32.519 Yeah, He's like they're not handling this well, like I 212 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:34.320 don't know what message they're trying to send. 213 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:38.639 Like, but in defense of Albertnaz, this far more than 214 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:41.279 what's going on later. This seems like it is being 215 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:44.639 handed down to Albernaz rather than Alburnaz being the one 216 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:48.120 trying to establish all this stuff. He's he is. 217 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:51.480 Winning with right. If you want more insight into this, 218 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:53.960 I'm reliably informed that the owner is working on a 219 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:55.720 book about leadership. 220 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:59.679 Yes you have that to read, yes, well, and also 221 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.120 likessons in baseball, like you've been the owner for like 222 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:05.480 two years? Two yeah, one to two years? Like what 223 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:08.960 are what? Mostly not done anything? 224 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:11.399 I'm actually in the middle. 225 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:15.720 Of trade taught me about business to business sales. 226 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:21.159 I didn't finish my article for today, but one of 227 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:22.960 the things I want I wrote about was that, uh, 228 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:26.759 you know, basalad Basio has been fine, Yes, like he 229 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:27.480 has a. 230 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:30.039 Bad start and a RC plus really hot and then 231 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:32.360 he's cooled off because he's been heard. 232 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:35.759 But also one fourteen dr C plus for a you 233 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.039 know essentially or is he still I think he's still 234 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:40.279 rookie eligible he had like one hundred and eighteen played 235 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:43.759 experiances Like that's good. Like in any other year it'd 236 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.919 be great. In this year, there are just a ton 237 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:48.919 of good rookies right now, and. 238 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:52.639 He's got he's got a better line than JJ weatherhole right, 239 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:54.919 defensive second base. 240 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:57.200 To be clear, it's not just d r C. Plus 241 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:01.480 he has a one nineteen ops like it matches, right, Yeah, 242 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:06.039 it's not like underperforming with good good peripherals, right, It's 243 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:07.799 just he's just been good. 244 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:08.639 He's twenty one. 245 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:11.759 Yeah, he's twenty one. 246 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:13.320 You enjoy it last. 247 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:15.559 You'll never see a twenty one year old Major leaguer again. 248 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:20.399 Oh god, we'll get there, please the entire There's going 249 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:26.399 to be threads, tendrils snaking, and other topics. Yeah. I 250 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:30.639 think the very funniest thing about this article. At one point, 251 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.840 who's the author is and girling. At one point they 252 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.320 were like, if there were a metric, I'm trying to 253 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:42.360 find where they said it. If a metric existed for 254 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:46.639 teams that routinely beat themselves, call it botched plays above average. 255 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:49.120 The more recent verses, the Royals are probably among the 256 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:52.919 league leaders. Guys, all right, so I understand that we're VP. 257 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:56.720 They're not that bad that they're not that bad defencively, 258 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:57.559 they're they're not. 259 00:13:57.639 --> 00:13:59.679 First of all, yes, they're not that bad defensively. Part 260 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:01.919 of it is Rutchman, but like there we have them 261 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:02.799 nineteenth and DRP. 262 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.360 It's it's around average and d But even if you 263 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:11.240 go to like basic basic stats like feeling percentage errors, 264 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.919 they're below average but not so so. 265 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:15.639 Again, I didn't get to see it, but is it? 266 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:19.519 Is it stuff like allowing runners to advance or like 267 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:21.320 throwing on the wrong base or like. 268 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:26.120 That's the thing man, if if there were consider going 269 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:26.320 to be. 270 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.360 A stat where you have the high profile how. 271 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:35.279 Many times you made mistakes by errors, They're fine, they're 272 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:35.840 not that bad. 273 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:39.240 It has good fielding plays and bad fielding plays. 274 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:41.480 Right, Yeah, we don't. 275 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:45.440 It's just so nebulous, and at a time when they 276 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:49.120 are like twenty fifth and d RA, which is not 277 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:52.320 as nebulous. Right, they're an average hitting team and a 278 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:54.799 below average pitching team, and boy, it's sure is those 279 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:56.080 extra couple of outs they give? 280 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:59.080 Yeah, Pete Alonzo plays every day, so congratulations, you have 281 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:03.759 above average first basement. I will say he's going to 282 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:06.320 be a three win first basement. Again, that's fine, but 283 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:08.519 like he wasn't solving this. 284 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:10.200 Alonso is not the problem. 285 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:12.840 No, bet Alonso was not the problem. Pet Alonzo was 286 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:15.519 also not the solution, right, Like. 287 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:23.600 They needed some hitting. Sure, right, I think I take 288 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:26.840 your point, and I'm not trying to defend tel Ripkin 289 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:31.159 or the article necessarily. But but when you're pitching is 290 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:37.840 twenty twenty six, Kevin, I can't talk today. Trevor Rogers, Yeah, 291 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:42.960 like and and Chris Bassett, Yes, giving up those extra 292 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:44.799 outs probably does hurt quite a bit. 293 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.679 Sure they could just pitch better. 294 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:51.279 No, no, Patrick, they can't. 295 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:53.679 Brandon Young is doing everything he can. 296 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.840 Brandon well, notice I didn't say Brandon Young brand and 297 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:58.200 Young is doing everything he can. 298 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.399 Yes, it's they can. 299 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:02.519 Chris Bassett cannot pitch better. 300 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:06.759 Actually, no, we can't. It's just Shane Boz and Kyle 301 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:08.480 Bradish are too, right, but. 302 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.320 Bos has been Brandish and boss have both been better 303 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:12.159 of late. 304 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:16.120 Yeah, to me, in this article, it really has a 305 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:18.279 we're all just trying not to find out the guy 306 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:21.799 who did this, right, this is all Please don't look 307 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:24.240 at the basic problem here, which is that you had 308 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:27.320 a rebuilding club that didn't build anyth you know, didn't 309 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:27.879 build enough. 310 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.919 Yes, that is right. This this is ultimately I think 311 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:34.919 we would all agree. The Orioles would probably not all agree, 312 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:36.759 but we would all agree that this is a Michael 313 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:37.519 Lias problem. 314 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:39.679 Yes, and he has a first year manager, so he's 315 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:42.360 already gotten rid of his last manager. Like at a 316 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:46.080 certain point the magnifying glass does turned. 317 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:48.919 Yeah, I mean I would. I would say just looking back, 318 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:52.159 like the last twenty eight days are four starts, Boz 319 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.200 has a two point two ers. They have they have 320 00:16:56.320 --> 00:17:00.360 pitched better. British has been a little more up down. 321 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:02.240 He was looking very good, had back to back five 322 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:05.079 runs starts. But I mean, but in general, I think. 323 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.799 This has not been a bad offense. But also like 324 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:09.640 the best ops on this team is eight oh three 325 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:13.119 and it's Pee Alonso, your first baseman. Right, It's just 326 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:16.359 not like they have like a bit of the Cubs 327 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:17.480 problem where there's no. 328 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.079 It's also like Taylor Ward is both a one to 329 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:26.039 fourteen ops plus and also uh slugging three fifty two. 330 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:27.440 Right, And like, I mean, the big problem here is 331 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.319 Gunner Henderson has not been good. Like Gunnar Henderson should 332 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.839 be the guy that is carrying this lineup with Alonso 333 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:38.240 and Besaio and Rushman as the supporting players, right, and 334 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:39.319 he's been a blowion. 335 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:41.640 He should be like you said, there's there's the Cubs problem, 336 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:43.319 but like there shouldn't be the Cubs. 337 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:44.799 There shouldn't be a Cub problem, right. 338 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.359 And like they they Yeah, I mean he's he's had 339 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:51.039 a very good week. He's in nine to seventy one 340 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:54.079 ops this week, but like, so you hope he's breaking out, 341 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:58.200 but sure, you can't be sure about it. Yeah, it's 342 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:02.759 it's been a rough go Baltimore. I do want. I 343 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:07.000 guess the question I would have in Baltimore is when 344 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:09.920 is the clock ticking on? Michael Lias? I mean I 345 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.519 think the clock is ticking now? When does it run out? 346 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:13.079 Right? 347 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:13.880 Legitimately? 348 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.079 Yeah. The second what's interesting about this article is that 349 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.039 the first half of it is about the fundamentals and 350 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:21.440 ripped and everything, and then as the story goes on, 351 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:24.519 it kind of morphs into a much more interesting and 352 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:27.079 difficult to answer question, which is why is the development 353 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:31.359 not working? And I think that as that question gets 354 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:33.200 ends up being the first half of the article, in 355 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.559 the next piece, right, and you start wondering, Okay, you tanked. 356 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:42.119 Why didn't it work? I don't think that Elias will 357 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.039 have any more ways to move the shells. 358 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.240 Around, right, I mean you look at what they well, 359 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:50.960 and frankly, the way he tanked isn't even really as 360 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:54.640 effective anymore. The measures that they've put in place for 361 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.920 draft penalties for picking multiple times, you know, for being 362 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:00.960 in the bottom six or whatever it. 363 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.440 Is, and they haven't They have not drafted well. They've 364 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:07.359 taken pretty big swings with like Van tone Cutt does. 365 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:10.640 Well, like they did briefly right, like they got well. 366 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:17.960 Did but like so Henderson's was I guess not injuries 367 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:20.480 causing that, but I mean, look getting him to the 368 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.359 majors and the way he's performing the majors went health 369 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:26.039 that is a win. But you look outside, like Elie 370 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:28.440 Rushman was the obvious one one that year. Yes, they 371 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:32.720 drafted him good. Uh you know, Jackson Holliday was there 372 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:36.279 other one one pick they have not really developed. 373 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:39.839 We'll see, Yeah, it's been it was very smooth and 374 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:40.319 that it was. 375 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:43.119 He does not look like an impact player in the majors. 376 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:45.519 There are other high picks like they got. They did 377 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:47.799 a lot of cost saving moves with Kowser and Karstad, 378 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:50.799 which is fine, and like Cowser was good for a bit. 379 00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:53.359 I think injuries have caught him up there. But also 380 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:57.359 like the guys for like the cost saving, the cost 381 00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:59.759 savings that they used later in the draft, like they 382 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:01.799 haven't they don't have the depth. They're going out and 383 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:04.200 having to get Jeremiah Jackson and Laoti Tavarius and Blaze 384 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.279 Alexander because those second and third round picks have not 385 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:08.039 really worked out. 386 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:09.599 Mm hmm. 387 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.240 You know, they haven't developed pitching really at all, like 388 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:18.880 k Povich and I guess they traded Bowmeister, but yeah, 389 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:20.400 Chase McDermot. 390 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:25.480 Chase mc dermott they picked up and then didn't didn't 391 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:26.079 do much. 392 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:28.440 With and like at a certain point like if you're 393 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:29.160 not if you're. 394 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.839 If they traded they traded five recent. 395 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.640 Yeah, high probably going to be on the mid season fifty. 396 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:40.839 Yeah, he's had anough. I mean like the pitching that 397 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:43.359 they did develop, right, Like Michael Forett, I don't know 398 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:47.960 if I'm saying that right, I apologize, like he was 399 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:50.359 a breakout arm and they trade them to the race 400 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:54.559 guess Bowmeister and and for it, right, and like there 401 00:20:54.559 --> 00:21:00.440