Speaker 1: Hell everybody through the facilities of the iHeartMedia Megaplex. This
Speaker 1: is Dick Gabriel. This is the state wide edition of
Speaker 1: the Big Booon Sider. You've heard comments from Mark Stoops,
Speaker 1: from Jack Gibbons, and now we will add Billy Rutledge
Speaker 1: to Aaron Gershaan or our menu tonight as we'll talk
Speaker 1: Kentucky football and basketball.
Speaker 2: Also Jeff Piicoro.
Speaker 1: The UK Sports Network will join us here on the
Speaker 1: state wide BBN Border to border. It is the stay
Speaker 1: wide Big Boo Insider. Dick Gabriel, Aaron Gersham, Billy Rutlie
Speaker 1: is going to open up tonight with basketball. We'll get
Speaker 1: the football and kind of slide out of that segment
Speaker 1: into our conversation with Hippocorol. But way, way, way too early,
Speaker 1: almost as premature, Aaron, as the top twenty five polls
Speaker 1: that come out in like June, you know, because we've
Speaker 1: seen two exhibitions and we've seen an overmatch Wright State team.
Speaker 1: But we've got a pretty good idea now of style
Speaker 1: of play. Who will do what? Has anything surprised you yet?
Speaker 3: No, I nothing crazy. I've loved the style of basketball
Speaker 3: we're watching. It's a lot more fun it's refreshing. I love. Look,
Speaker 3: they came out of the opening tip and drew up
Speaker 3: a play what what like? They didn't just say run
Speaker 3: the go go offense like they they It was a
Speaker 3: schematic play where they found They got them all to
Speaker 3: Amari Williams, I forget if he was behind the three
Speaker 3: point line, are kind of in the eighteen foot area,
Speaker 3: and they lobbed it up to Andrew krr dunk. They're
Speaker 3: running inbound plays like. It's a fun style of basketball.
Speaker 3: It's refreshing to see more that it's focused on scheme
Speaker 3: and guys that fit the scheme rather than just raw talent.
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, it's yeah, you you
Speaker 1: mentioned it raw talent, and it's young raw talent. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the previous administration. So so often on a
Speaker 1: given night, raw talent's going to get you home. Sure,
Speaker 1: you know, with guys with with three or four guys
Speaker 1: on the floor who are going to be first round
Speaker 1: draft picks. But so in other words, the guys they
Speaker 1: have now they they've got to do it that way.
Speaker 3: Yes, and they have some raw There is some raw tality.
Speaker 3: Thats not to say, you know, this.
Speaker 2: Is not a much a church league guy.
Speaker 3: And this is not a team full of scrull No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: No no.
Speaker 1: These are guys who almost all of them were obviously
Speaker 1: starters or a famous six man right and and all
Speaker 1: star guys at previous stop.
Speaker 3: There's just probably there may not be a lottery pick
Speaker 3: on this team, and that's okay. But they fit what
Speaker 3: Mark Pope wants to do and he has a plan
Speaker 3: for them, and you saw it with several different plays.
Speaker 3: You saw it just I mean the big thing that
Speaker 3: stood out for me. I mean there are a couple
Speaker 3: guys individually, but Amari Williams, first of all, even playing
Speaker 3: I didn't think he was gonna play, and you get
Speaker 3: I think second possession, he grabs a rebound, he as
Speaker 3: a seven foot or two sixty two, He brings it
Speaker 3: all the way up the floor and then puts a
Speaker 3: perfect little shovel pass to Otega for a dunk like
Speaker 3: wall like that. I don't care who you're playing against.
Speaker 3: That's impressive. So there was a lot to like and
Speaker 3: you know, stuff to clean up. I think the rebounding
Speaker 3: needs to be better off. Satively, the only grabbed I
Speaker 3: think seven uh and eleven for Right State in that category.
Speaker 3: So that's something I know. Mark Pope is a six
Speaker 3: to ten guy when he was playing, probably doesn't love
Speaker 3: to see, but a lot to be excited about it.
Speaker 1: You know what, though, I bet he did because he
Speaker 1: knows what he's true.
Speaker 3: There's something. Yeah, you don't want it to all be
Speaker 3: sunst said.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do that, but this kid could sure, And
Speaker 1: I flashed. For some of you who've watched the program
Speaker 1: for a while, I flashed on one of the Tubby
Speaker 1: Smith teams in the mid auts that had both Eric
Speaker 1: Daniels and Chuck Hayes on the front line. Eric was
Speaker 1: a low post guy and really good at it, but
Speaker 1: he had been one of those guys who was a
Speaker 1: guard for for his entire career and had a growth
Speaker 1: spurt so he became a big guy who could handle it.
Speaker 2: Chuck Hayes was was a front liner. I mean, he
Speaker 2: was a tough guy.
Speaker 1: But he had a good handle as well. So that
Speaker 1: particular team for most games had five guys on the
Speaker 1: floor who could lead the fast break and often did.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying a Mario Williams is going to
Speaker 1: do that all the time. Bill, I know you peak
Speaker 1: at the TV while you're producing the radio broadcast.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, what struck you as.
Speaker 4: Being I don't know if it was surprising or well pleasant,
Speaker 4: pleasant would be like the first five minutes of the game,
Speaker 4: just the way that they played with emotion and being
Speaker 4: intentional about what they were doing, whether it be the
Speaker 4: plays off of the very first thing or just I
Speaker 4: don't know, the extra pass.
Speaker 5: That's just really refreshing to see. Surprises, Otega Oway.
Speaker 2: Last year, to be fair, last year that team lived
Speaker 2: on the extra pass.
Speaker 3: They did, they did well, Yeah, they were almost were
Speaker 3: not aggressive enough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but surprises otega Away. Yeah, I mean to the
Speaker 5: point where Kobe Braa may be the sixth man, not
Speaker 5: even in the starting lineup. He's been so good and
Speaker 5: I did not expect that at all. And the fact
Speaker 5: that the two Kentucky kids aren't going to see a
Speaker 5: lot of playing time, I don't think early on, because
Speaker 5: these guys are healthy, they're solid, and I agree with
Speaker 5: the approach that you've got to get them as much
Speaker 5: playing time as possible together before Duke coming up. So
Speaker 5: I understood while the Kentucky guys didn't play that much.
Speaker 5: But sports talk radio talk, please, let's.
Speaker 2: Not get into it. Somebody told me that's.
Speaker 3: The news, is Richie. It already is going to start.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it shouldn't be. Yeah, I mean, anybody knows
Speaker 1: anything should realize, especially if you listen to Mark Pope
Speaker 1: who talks about this offense that you guys both mentioned. Uh,
Speaker 1: if it's just out there looking for.
Speaker 2: The open man. Yeah, those those kids. It wouldn't matter if.
Speaker 1: If, if the two Kentucky kids played. But it's complicated
Speaker 1: and it's like he has said, they're quick studies, but
Speaker 1: they're still learning.
Speaker 3: And that's what you want, no doubt.
Speaker 5: And you were getting the right combinations on the floor
Speaker 5: while the guys last year got the extra pass like
Speaker 5: you were saying, you know, we just didn't see the
Speaker 5: right guys on the floor together Antonio Reeves, Reed Shepherd,
Speaker 5: Rob Dillingham. They didn't play together and that was part
Speaker 5: of the problem because a guy like Justin Edwards was
Speaker 5: promised men and we had to go halfway through the
Speaker 5: year before the guy could score sixteen points in a game.
Speaker 5: Give me a break with the roster management over the
Speaker 5: last five years. But just like you know, I don't
Speaker 5: know if you heard Mark Pope talking about like the
Speaker 5: frontal cortex and like the difference between.
Speaker 3: The that was a little different than not machines, not robots.
Speaker 3: It was just it's a different way of looking at things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it really is refreshing, is the word that
Speaker 5: we we've used too often, but at the same time
Speaker 5: also encouraging.
Speaker 2: One of the I didn't mean no, you're fine after
Speaker 2: one of the exhibitions.
Speaker 1: I was at the women's game on Monday, and then
Speaker 1: I listened to Jack and Tom for the and watched
Speaker 1: for the men's game. But one of the exhibitions, I'm
Speaker 1: in the media room. I don't remember what I was
Speaker 1: sitting next to, and I turned to him halfway to
Speaker 1: you know, and.
Speaker 2: He's answering the question. He's answering their work question. The
Speaker 2: guy goes, yeah, I know, I said, I don't know
Speaker 2: what to do.
Speaker 3: We have a weekly press conference with him.
Speaker 1: And he shows up in a weekly press conference with
Speaker 1: cant Perry, but he didn't show the game, right, Chuck
Speaker 1: Martin or something special guest star fill in the blanket Arkansas.
Speaker 3: Already they've had two pregame press conferences and they've been
Speaker 3: Kenny painting Chuck Martin. So they're they're and you know
Speaker 3: what it's eight eight in that game. First media time out,
Speaker 3: just saying, but.
Speaker 2: In all fairness, after a while, we preferred Kenny because
Speaker 2: we got directed to the questions.
Speaker 3: It's just refreshing all the way around. Look at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, is it going to be better
Speaker 3: or worse? Who knows, right, But it's something different. I
Speaker 3: think the fan base was ready for something different, and
Speaker 3: it's just it's a fun style of play. Again, you
Speaker 3: said it right off the top. It was an overmatched
Speaker 3: Right State team, There's no question about it. Bucknell played
Speaker 3: a really good game against Delaware and then they'll play
Speaker 3: Southern Indiana. Maybe they're better than Right State. Who knows,
Speaker 3: but either way, you know, it's like Billy said, trying
Speaker 3: to figure out some of the right combinations for this
Speaker 3: game against Duke, because look, I if they lose the
Speaker 3: Duke game, it's not into the world. But that's how
Speaker 3: the fan base is there. They haven't want to. Kentucky
Speaker 3: hasn't won a Champions Classic since twenty nineteen. It's been
Speaker 3: a long time, and the fans are devastate. Yes, the
Speaker 3: Tyres MAXI game am aschief, So the fans are circling
Speaker 3: this game as Pope's first big moment. Duke is a
Speaker 3: young team. They're really talented. They're kind of that raw
Speaker 3: talent and they have a ton of it, including the
Speaker 3: guy who's probably the number one picking next to your
Speaker 3: draft and Cooper Flag. But Kentucky's experience, they're not going
Speaker 3: to be afraid, and this fan basic expects to win
Speaker 3: and that some of that honeymoon phase will die down
Speaker 3: just a little if they get beat down.
Speaker 2: There I will and that's just all part of natural.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, again, not the end of the world.
Speaker 5: Well, if you think they're going to live and die
Speaker 5: by the three, look at the first game of the
Speaker 5: year where they had eleven threes but still scored one
Speaker 5: hundred and three points, Like, that's not you know necessary,
Speaker 5: only shot in nine.
Speaker 3: Threes in the first half.
Speaker 5: That's what stood out to that's impressive. That's that's not
Speaker 5: just you know, three and looking at numbers. That's like
Speaker 5: a modern basketball. That's what Natoate's evolved to to get
Speaker 5: his team to the Final four. It wasn't just threes. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it wasn't just threes. He figured it out. So I
Speaker 5: think that's really it's reassuring.
Speaker 1: That's a great point because Alabama firing up all those threes,
Speaker 1: got everybody excited, and then he lost early in the.
Speaker 2: NSA tournament and oh, that's just a gimmick, you know. Well,
Speaker 2: they went back to work and realized we got to
Speaker 2: add some inside.
Speaker 1: Game to our attack and did that and became a
Speaker 1: Final four team. And I don't know that this Kentucky
Speaker 1: team is as good as that Alabama team.
Speaker 2: But we've talked already. What time you got there, Billy.
Speaker 3: We're good on time.
Speaker 2: No, just tell me what time it is.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's eight thirteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've talked thirteen minutes. We haven't mentioned defense.
Speaker 1: And they were, well, yeah, But the reason I bring
Speaker 1: that is that's that's the bedrock of this team. And
Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. That's how Pope built this roster,
Speaker 1: beginning with defense. Now they haven't really needed shut down
Speaker 1: defense yet, they haven't needed possessions where man, we got
Speaker 1: to stop these guys. We need to stop here to
Speaker 1: either turn this thing around or go get you know,
Speaker 1: because they haven't. They haven't knew if they played, but
Speaker 1: when they played Duke, that will come into play.
Speaker 2: So yeah, now we've seen it on display.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, Butler destroying different point guards.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's a monster. Yeah, Oteg is a really good defender. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's where I was talking about earlier. That's not
Speaker 3: fun to talk about now, but that's why I was
Speaker 3: talking about closing possessions. They have to improve that before well,
Speaker 3: hopefully starting.
Speaker 2: They got bored in the second.
Speaker 3: Yeah a little bit, Yeah, probably probably, But eleven offense,
Speaker 3: three bounds a lot, That's that's more than you want
Speaker 3: to go. Yeah, and they only got seven themselves. So
Speaker 3: you know, I think he's exactly paraphrasing here, but he
Speaker 3: said after the game that you know, we have to
Speaker 3: we haven't even reached gotten close to where we need
Speaker 3: to be rim protecting one. Right, they only blocked four
Speaker 3: shots and they didn't close as many possessions. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that's all part of the matter.
Speaker 2: Is expect that in November, right.
Speaker 3: I think they might have practic this defense to Skun.
Speaker 5: Actually a cal had even talked about defense with Arkansas.
Speaker 5: Yet they're just done a whole different thing, team bonding.
Speaker 3: Team bonding. They're losing right now.
Speaker 1: Look at his roster, I mean, look at all the
Speaker 1: young guys. I mean, that's if you're going to recruit
Speaker 1: that way. That has to be the way it is.
Speaker 1: But why worry about that? One of you mentioned Oway,
Speaker 1: and I have to admit that, having watched this team
Speaker 1: practice a couple of times, having watched Pro Day, having
Speaker 1: watched three games, he is to me the biggest surprise, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was watching him in practice and I wondered, right,
Speaker 1: where does this guy It was easy to figure out
Speaker 1: and pretty obvious with some of the other guys when
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, who is this guy?
Speaker 2: What is he going to do? What does he bring?
Speaker 2: And the answer is everything?
Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, that is the answers. I mean, well, I
Speaker 3: think it was eight for nine for He's been almost
Speaker 3: perfect from the floor counting the preseason games, but he's
Speaker 3: eight for nine the other night, three for three from three.
Speaker 3: He it's so funny because his three is not pretty,
Speaker 3: like his jump shot is not esthetically pleasing, but it works.
Speaker 3: He's making shots. He gets to the rim. He's really
Speaker 3: physical and defensively. You know, we obviously the mont Butler
Speaker 3: gets a lot of the headlines rightfully so, but that
Speaker 3: guy as an on ball defender is probably the second
Speaker 3: best they've got. Yeah, so really impressed with him.
Speaker 1: Gets to the rim. I mean yeah, you know, people
Speaker 1: wonder about that, but.
Speaker 5: Now he's been a pleasant surprise and kind of like
Speaker 5: I alluded to earlier, I mean, you have an abundance
Speaker 5: of riches now at the two spot. Kobe Brea can
Speaker 5: come off the bench. I was a little worried where
Speaker 5: he would be, but then he came in and lit
Speaker 5: it lit it up when he came in.
Speaker 3: So you talk about it pretty and yeah, how about
Speaker 3: that with Kobe too. I mean, yes, he hit four
Speaker 3: threes and that was pretty, but he had made three
Speaker 3: shots at the rim as well. Yeah, like he he
Speaker 3: talked after the game that that's been something he wanted
Speaker 3: to add to his bag over the offseason, and it
Speaker 3: came to fruition a little bit right away.
Speaker 5: Now, if we can get Lamont to just make layups,
Speaker 5: I think we'll Yeah, and that.
Speaker 3: Was yeah, and that was something that Pope said after
Speaker 3: the game. We talked about making last year they made
Speaker 3: some extra passes. They did in this game too, because
Speaker 3: they are very, very unselfish. And then Lamote misses two
Speaker 3: dunks instead of just putting in the bunnies like they
Speaker 3: tried for the home run plays a little I'm sure
Speaker 3: as part of that is first regular season game so
Speaker 3: close to credit to the fans. I mean, that was
Speaker 3: pretty darn close to being full for Right State. So
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some showing off they wanted to do,
Speaker 3: but yeah, they got to clean that up.
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of last year's team and Dylan
Speaker 1: am who I will maintain after twenty minutes on the floor,
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have played more than twenty last year because
Speaker 1: his productivity went.
Speaker 2: Down a drink a little bit. But his debut in
Speaker 2: the NBA very impressive.
Speaker 1: Now, you and I we have an unofficial bet, but
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the stakes are. You've told me
Speaker 1: he'll be an immediate All Star and I said, no,
Speaker 1: he won't.
Speaker 5: Well, he got in graded on draft night to a
Speaker 5: team that didn't need him to start, so unfortunately, he's
Speaker 5: not going to be the All Star this year.
Speaker 2: Need to know how to bet? No, I understand that,
Speaker 2: but I think he'll be an exciting player. I just
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: My whole thing with him will be the same thing here.
Speaker 1: Who's he going to guard?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you got a guard in the NBA. I
Speaker 2: don't care what people say. But anyhow, in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: well yeah, but all year long, as well any night,
Speaker 2: but All Star Night.
Speaker 5: Well, Reid's not playing much either right now, He's not,
Speaker 5: but you got to learn. But I think that's normal,
Speaker 5: just rookies not playing on the rookie.
Speaker 3: They also, I mean, Houston had a really like I know,
Speaker 3: they ended up with a third pick, but I think
Speaker 3: they got that pick via trade. They ended up being
Speaker 3: a forty one to forty one team last year, so
Speaker 3: there's probably some better personnel than a typical.
Speaker 2: You know, they're always there.
Speaker 1: Ever since the Hackem days and the Yoming days, just
Speaker 1: seems like Houston is always one of those teams.
Speaker 2: It's in the middle somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Yeah, they had a couple of really
Speaker 3: rough years after they traded Harden, but they you know,
Speaker 3: I think there was that might have been the net
Speaker 3: pick that was third that they got.
Speaker 1: I'm not huge any team that takes Harden, you're committing
Speaker 1: to letting him handle the ball forty percent of the time,
Speaker 1: so you're probably going to be a five hundred team.
Speaker 3: Right Well, there's a reason he hasn't, I don't. I
Speaker 3: think the only fine we'll see if ever even played
Speaker 3: and was the one who had Katie and Westbroog with
Speaker 3: him and Westbrook Crystal really good at that time.
Speaker 5: You didn't enjoy the Yao Ming era, and well.
Speaker 1: I did because Chuck Hayes was on that team. And
Speaker 1: when Yao Ming was injured, Chuck Hayes started at center
Speaker 1: for the Rockets, and they looked up his official size,
Speaker 1: which was like six four and a half. He was
Speaker 1: listed to six six, of course, and so many did
Speaker 1: the research. He was the shortest starting center in the
Speaker 1: history of the NBA. So they go from a seven
Speaker 1: to five guy.
Speaker 2: To the shortest center ever and honestly it didn't hurt
Speaker 2: the team that much. So anyhow, that's just we.
Speaker 1: Have Koreemed away from UK and over to the NBA.
Speaker 1: But there's been an inextricable link for so many years,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's interesting to me, is Mark Pope
Speaker 1: is already recruiting guys who have Kentucky right back in
Speaker 1: the top five, if not.
Speaker 2: The top three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the number two right now and the recruiting clash
Speaker 3: number two behind you.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, I didn't realize.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know they got a big commitment just recently,
Speaker 5: right Lewis, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, high four star guy. And then they're I
Speaker 3: think they're in a good spot to close with Kayleb Wilson,
Speaker 3: who's the number eight prospect in the country. So that's
Speaker 3: probably that's a four man class.
Speaker 1: When you when you read about on your site and
Speaker 1: in your magazine and others, the lens Mark Pope has
Speaker 1: gone to to.
Speaker 2: Recruit these kids.
Speaker 1: You know, he's doing what every recruiter in America does,
Speaker 1: showing up at all these of it. But now he's
Speaker 1: got a K on his jacket and not a b YU.
Speaker 1: All right, so odds.
Speaker 2: Are much better for him.
Speaker 1: I would say, all right, when we come back, we
Speaker 1: will shift to football a little bit later.
Speaker 2: Jeppikoro.
Speaker 1: If he's got his phone on and we don't get
Speaker 1: our hopes up here in the control room anymore, do we, guys,
Speaker 1: we'll join us. We hope here on a state wide
Speaker 1: BBI Border to border Pikeville two Predicula. It is the
Speaker 1: big Blue and Sider Dickabe real Billy Rutled Jaron Gershawan.
Speaker 1: You heard comments earlier tonight from Mark Stoops. He sounds exhausted,
Speaker 1: doesn't he.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've can't him. No, I can't either. I mean
Speaker 3: he's going well, one, he's going through a ton personally,
Speaker 3: I'm sure. And then the season has been terrible. Let's
Speaker 3: just call it what it is. It's not been a
Speaker 3: good season. They haven't scored more than twenty points in
Speaker 3: the SEC game. Uh, they lost all their SEC home
Speaker 3: games like that. That weighs on you. And I'm sure
Speaker 3: you know he coaches and he says all the time,
Speaker 3: Oh well, I don't read anything. He sees it. He
Speaker 3: knows the fings, right, That's what I'm saying. He knows,
Speaker 3: He's not He's not oblivious.
Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to be a fool, not right now.
Speaker 3: And it weighs on these guys. They're humans. Given all the.
Speaker 2: Success that that he's had, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, even when his teams early weren't winning, they
Speaker 1: were building right toward winning and then they got where
Speaker 1: they got, but then of late not so much. But
Speaker 1: I will freely and openly admit Billy and I talked
Speaker 1: about this before one on the air. I expected just
Speaker 1: because Kentucky was so beat up and having watched a
Speaker 1: couple of Tennessee games, and I think you felt the
Speaker 1: same way. Yeah, I went into that and I've covered
Speaker 1: many a game down in Knoxville, and it comes with
Speaker 1: the job. Sometimes you've just got to cover games like that.
Speaker 2: Not at home.
Speaker 1: Man, just were go rough and I was amazed and
Speaker 1: how competitive Kentucky was. And yeah, they missed three field
Speaker 1: goals to Tennessee, but the defense stopped the drives and forced.
Speaker 2: Them to kick field goals.
Speaker 1: But I thought they're favored by seventeen, they're gonna win
Speaker 1: by more than that, and Kentucky made them.
Speaker 2: Work for it.
Speaker 5: I thought, yeah, well, you got to give them credit
Speaker 5: for their effort, There's no doubt about that. But there
Speaker 5: is also a difference between playing hard and playing well.
Speaker 5: And I don't think we've seen Kentucky play well in
Speaker 5: quite a while.
Speaker 2: I mean, we looked at it enough.
Speaker 5: We saw a three game stretch that we thought Kentucky
Speaker 5: could win all of them, yep, to set up a
Speaker 5: very good or very big Tennessee game.
Speaker 2: They lost all of them.
Speaker 5: Lost the game versus Tennessee because, as Aaron has pointed out,
Speaker 5: you know, three missed field goals, two drop touchdowns. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, I do want to give those guys credit
Speaker 5: for playing hard in a season that looks lost, But
Speaker 5: you have risen the standard to where moral victories like
Speaker 5: that isn't something that you should come away with.
Speaker 3: I think one more more of that goes to the
Speaker 3: defense than the offense, because, like you said, the defense
Speaker 3: did force some field goal attempts. They were down to
Speaker 3: three dbs or cornerback I mean that's and really two
Speaker 3: because j Q was in an outoholl game, so you're
Speaker 3: down to two cornerbacks and Ryan Nichols making his first
Speaker 3: career start and then the seer Addison virtually his first
Speaker 3: career start.
Speaker 1: I looked at there like what is he doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and Tennessee is the number two or
Speaker 3: three rushing attack in the country. And until the fourth quarter,
Speaker 3: like they held, they had a fumble, and they held
Speaker 3: Dylan Sampson, who's the best back in this league, and
Speaker 3: check most of the game until he you know, did
Speaker 3: Dylan Sampson things at the end offensively though, I'm with you, Billy,
Speaker 3: Like to me, I thought Rock vandergriff was playing okay
Speaker 3: until he got hurt. I'll give him that, I got.
Speaker 3: But like they scored eighteen points and they had It's
Speaker 3: not like they didn't have opportunities. They got to the
Speaker 3: five yard line on the thing, driving the game zero points,
Speaker 3: they got the ball back down three in the fourth
Speaker 3: quarter after a really nice drive their drive before that that.
Speaker 3: You know, they scored the touchdown. Nothing like. It's not
Speaker 3: like they didn't have chances. And they had so many
Speaker 3: penalties that killed them. I want to say, all their
Speaker 3: penalties in this game, off the top of my head,
Speaker 3: were on offense. I can't think of one defensively.
Speaker 5: And Stubs had a funny moment tonight. He was like,
Speaker 5: we it was like a timeout or a stoppager play.
Speaker 5: He's telling the guys we're gonna go on to yeah,
Speaker 5: and they come out and they fall start.
Speaker 2: Can you go on to? Are you good with that? Dylan?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: False? I'm not trying to call guys out, but he
Speaker 3: fall started on two strat plays. At one point. It
Speaker 3: was like, guys, it's just self destructing. I mean they
Speaker 3: had to hold in a false start back to back.
Speaker 3: The offense I can't give as much credit to, but
Speaker 3: the defense, Yeah, they were warriors in this game. I
Speaker 3: give him a lot of credit.
Speaker 1: I was a little confused, I will say when they
Speaker 1: I honestly, I was good. Was going for the touchdown
Speaker 1: and we talked about it on the air. Look, you're
Speaker 1: in Knox, but you're trying to steal this game. You
Speaker 1: gotta try it that early in the game. Go for seven.
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. Wasn't crazy about the play call.
Speaker 2: I have to be honest. Some of these things really
Speaker 2: passing me.
Speaker 1: And there was a call in the second half where
Speaker 1: I think it might have been on fourth down where
Speaker 1: I can't exactly remember what. We can ask Jeff, he'll remember,
Speaker 1: but I kind of scratched my head. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not out there reading the defense. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on.
Speaker 3: And I will say this, but the other thing to recall,
Speaker 3: uh huh, you lose Barry and Brown. I was That's
Speaker 3: where I was going. I will say this. I thought
Speaker 3: going in and early in this game, Bush Hampden was
Speaker 3: calling some pretty good things we've seen all year, and
Speaker 3: I think a big part of their game plan in
Speaker 3: this one was let's feed number seven. Yes, and he
Speaker 3: was playing well. He rose to that. He made tough catches.
Speaker 3: He had that fourteen on the play got hurt. Was
Speaker 3: on fourteen yard play that got him outside of their
Speaker 3: own tent. Like it looked like it was he was
Speaker 3: going to have maybe his best game of the year.
Speaker 2: That happened right in front of he fell on the
Speaker 2: ball man.
Speaker 3: And you know they spread it out, you know, nine
Speaker 3: different receivers with a catch like there were some things
Speaker 3: to like. But again, when you self destruct and and
Speaker 3: you have your opportunities, I can't give you too much credit.
Speaker 3: But defense, I will I give credit for just not
Speaker 3: that's an easy one to lay an egg on, and
Speaker 3: they laid it. Look, the defense kind of gave up
Speaker 3: at the end of the floor. In the Auburn games.
Speaker 3: They did not in this one. They fought all four quarters.
Speaker 2: I agree, gave up, if not emotionally, physically.
Speaker 3: Everything it was just even outstanding.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Well, if he's not got his phone locked up in
Speaker 1: his briefcase, or may we may hear from Jeff maybe
Speaker 1: coming up after the break, or if he's not in
Speaker 1: a loud restaurant, let's me use that one night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you did. Yeah, border to order.
Speaker 1: It is the big Blue insider joining us now. His
Speaker 1: phone was on, was in reach, mister Jeppikoro of the
Speaker 1: UK Sports Network, Jeffroy, you survived another trip to Knoxville,
Speaker 1: the place that you hate. You saw that color that
Speaker 1: you hate, the team that you hate.
Speaker 2: It was a game, though, wasn't it.
Speaker 6: It was, it was. It was a fun game, especially
Speaker 6: for the first half. I mean the you know, the
Speaker 6: the offense.
Speaker 2: Looked competition better.
Speaker 6: Their offense looked like a real offense. It didn't sputter
Speaker 6: and spit and make mistakes. And then after the first
Speaker 6: two drives it became the old offense again.
Speaker 1: Interesting Stoops talk tonight about and you know he kicks
Speaker 1: himself all the time when he makes a decision and
Speaker 1: at backfires and he'll stay you know, on hindsight, I
Speaker 1: wish I had X y Z sure And now he
Speaker 1: says he wished he'd taken a three point well, of course,
Speaker 1: because he came away with nothing. But I've told these
Speaker 1: two guys, you like the call on and off the
Speaker 1: air to go for seven. I did too, because in
Speaker 1: a game like that, you got to take some shots, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Look, here's the thing. You're not gonna win kicking
Speaker 6: field goals. Not against Tennessee. They can score, They could
Speaker 6: score in bunches. I thought the defense played fantastic. You've
Speaker 6: got to get sevens, and they did. But you know
Speaker 6: that it's tough to walk away from that with nothing.
Speaker 6: But then it in when you watch that play. If
Speaker 6: you go back and look at the play. There's a
Speaker 6: guy open in the corner of the end zone. You
Speaker 6: just you know, I'm look, I hope and I said
Speaker 6: this during the game and after the game with you.
Speaker 6: I hope Brock goes out and throws her four hundred
Speaker 6: yards every game because you know, I'm for UK and
Speaker 6: UK doing great, but they have to get better at
Speaker 6: quarterback play. I mean, he had a guy open. He
Speaker 6: locked on dan Key, and you just you cannot do
Speaker 6: that in the sec. If you lock on, you're gonna
Speaker 6: get killed.
Speaker 1: Think he is so good in a way, I can't
Speaker 1: blame any quarterback for making him my security blanket, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But you gotta you gotta take what they give you, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know. And here's this is just an example. And
Speaker 6: it just because I just watched this this afternoon. I
Speaker 6: was rewatching some of the plays in the game and
Speaker 6: I came across the Bowlie interception and he's at the
Speaker 6: far left hash Mark Okay. When he takes the snap,
Speaker 6: they're in man across the board and they have a
Speaker 6: single high safety, so that means everybody's in man and
Speaker 6: you have one safety sitting in the center of the field.
Speaker 6: When the snap comes, Bowley immediately looks to his right
Speaker 6: and that's where Dame Ke is running an out pattern.
Speaker 6: And there's there's a second receiver on the inside that's
Speaker 6: running a scene pattern. I mean he's going straight up
Speaker 6: the hill or straight up the middle of the field.
Speaker 6: The safety jumps that with the other guy, so the
Speaker 6: whole middles open. The backside inside receiver for Kentucky has
Speaker 6: got his man beat, he's got a step on him already,
Speaker 6: and the whole middles open. All Cutter has to do
Speaker 6: is lay it out in the middle. Instead, he throws
Speaker 6: the ball forty five yards across the field on a
Speaker 6: ten yard out pattern against an SEC defensive back. That
Speaker 6: ain't gonna work, nope.
Speaker 1: I you and I talked about this a little bit
Speaker 1: post game, but I want to get a little deeper
Speaker 1: into this because Aaron brought up the fact that they
Speaker 1: were so thin at defensive back, specifically cornerback. Tennessee made
Speaker 1: a living, as it often does, on two step two
Speaker 1: and a half, three step drop fire, a pass out
Speaker 1: to the wing and or whatever you want to call that,
Speaker 1: and then they run for five, six, seven yards. And
Speaker 1: you know, the Kentucky corners did a nice job tackling,
Speaker 1: missed some tackles, but I just felt like they were
Speaker 1: playing soft all night. And I'm figuring, Jeff, they were
Speaker 1: just trying to protect those young dbs.
Speaker 2: Is that the way you saw it?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, Look, you got to Ryan Nichols out there,
Speaker 6: and this young man is what is he eighteen years old?
Speaker 6: And yeah, he's a true freshman. And the tennis you
Speaker 6: gotta remember this too. The tennis sheiver receivers are all
Speaker 6: like track stars, right, they all run four three four
Speaker 6: four forties. So you're scared to death for a double move.
Speaker 6: You're scared to death out I'm just taking off. So
Speaker 6: you've got to give him a little bit of cushion. Now,
Speaker 6: if you have the skills of Andrew Phillips, if you
Speaker 6: have the skills of Maxwell Harriston, who's an upperclassman, you
Speaker 6: can get up there, jam him on the line and
Speaker 6: still get back in pass coverage. But to ask a
Speaker 6: freshman to try to do that, that's awful. Tough man, now,
Speaker 6: the only thing I said instead of being and again,
Speaker 6: I don't know what Bifano wants out of them. I
Speaker 6: don't know how he's trying to coach that. If he
Speaker 6: wants the eight or ten yard cushion. To me, five
Speaker 6: is plenty because that's that's at top speed. That's two steps.
Speaker 6: So I think I could be if I'm a you know,
Speaker 6: a four to four corner that most of these guys
Speaker 6: are full four four five at worst. That's you know,
Speaker 6: two steps is enough for me to get to full
Speaker 6: speed and and you know, not lose my guy. So
Speaker 6: the eight yards is a little much. I would have
Speaker 6: taken a step or two up. But again we're asking
Speaker 6: freshmen to do a whole lot in that situation, and again,
Speaker 6: they just don't want to get beat deep Jeff.
Speaker 3: Going back to the offense side of the ball, Obviously
Speaker 3: you don't want to give them too much credit because
Speaker 3: they only scored eighteen points, But it seemed like early
Speaker 3: in the game they had a pretty good game plan going,
Speaker 3: and I think a big part of that was feed
Speaker 3: number seven. And he was actually barry on Brown, I
Speaker 3: thought on track with some of the plays he was
Speaker 3: making to have one of his better games of the year.
Speaker 3: Do you think him getting hurt changed kind of the trajectory.
Speaker 3: I know that drive basically stalled as soon as he
Speaker 3: came off the field, and they really just didn't have
Speaker 3: the same game after that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because the other thing that he does, even if
Speaker 6: they're not going to him, he's the guy that takes
Speaker 6: the top off the defense, you know, he's the guy
Speaker 6: that loosens the safeties up. Without him in there, you
Speaker 6: basically have three guys and because Anthony Brown Stevens can
Speaker 6: has got some quickness to him, but the other three
Speaker 6: guys are more inside receivers, right, They're not the burners
Speaker 6: that are going to go downfield on you. So Tennessee's
Speaker 6: able to come up a little bit. So those extra
Speaker 6: two steps by the safety is really helping the running game.
Speaker 6: Remember at the start of the game too, they ran
Speaker 6: it really well, right, I mean, will Cox looked good
Speaker 6: running the ball, just had a better scheme going early
Speaker 6: in the game. But again, once you get somebody banged up,
Speaker 6: that's one of the keys to your game. That really
Speaker 6: hurts me. Look at and again I'm not trying to
Speaker 6: compare this, but look at the Bengals. They had their
Speaker 6: a lot of their offense wrapped around the kid from Alabama, right,
Speaker 6: the receiver. He doesn't show up the practice on Saturday,
Speaker 6: so they have to bench into the game and they
Speaker 6: have to change their whole game plan overnight. This happened
Speaker 6: once before the Bengals, before the Super Bowl. They had
Speaker 6: a lot riding on and his name just just me
Speaker 6: and I'm sorry about Higgins.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no.
Speaker 6: In the Super Bowl, yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I remember, the other guy was messing around
Speaker 1: with drugs.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, lock himself in his room, and and uh yeah,
Speaker 6: and then and and Boomer and them just couldn't you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, overnight, it just kills you. And so to
Speaker 6: lose a player of actually if he's because you put
Speaker 6: him back on returns. It killed the kickoff game because
Speaker 6: there were a couple of kickoffs that there was a
Speaker 6: hole there. But you don't have that burner back there
Speaker 6: returning the kicks man, and that's a huge difference maker. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I think it affected the game a lot well.
Speaker 5: Due to the injury of Brown, we got to see
Speaker 5: Macklin have some success late in this game, and Jeff,
Speaker 5: it's hard not to feel like we've wasted him this year.
Speaker 6: I think that they've wasted a lot of receivers this year,
Speaker 6: not just him. I mean, you look at you, just
Speaker 6: look at it. This is what I've always heard from
Speaker 6: from guys when they get to the professional level, they say,
Speaker 6: you know how good a guy is. All I have
Speaker 6: to do is look at the back of his baseball card.
Speaker 6: It tells you everything on there. Right. You got a
Speaker 6: receiver coming off of a seventy three catch over a
Speaker 6: thousand yards, one of what eleven in the NCAA coming back,
Speaker 6: and he's only caught a handful of passes. There's something wrong,
Speaker 6: you know, And obviously we know all the problems they're
Speaker 6: not They're not giving them time to go off. You know,
Speaker 6: your your primary receiver. The quarterbacks that they do have
Speaker 6: when they do have time, aren't real good at going
Speaker 6: through all of their progressions. So that makes it tough
Speaker 6: on a receiver. Man, he's out there trying every play
Speaker 6: and you'll still playing hard. And he made two great catches.
Speaker 6: Actually the touchdown, I have the two point diversion work.
Speaker 2: But maclin Ca.
Speaker 1: Macln lines up in the slot, and I really thought,
Speaker 1: and yeah, what do I know, because I'm still waiting
Speaker 1: for a chance to play quarterback in a college game.
Speaker 1: But I would think, Jeff correct me, and I know
Speaker 1: you will if I'm wrong. That might be a more
Speaker 1: manageable pass for a young quarterback, and not a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: but a raw quarterback like like Vander GRIFFI just hasn't
Speaker 1: played that much with an O line.
Speaker 2: That's a little questionable.
Speaker 1: Is a slot receiver not more of a of a
Speaker 1: desirable target?
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on what the defense is doing. Right.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, But the answer to your question is yes.
Speaker 6: You you see them across the board. Guys that are
Speaker 6: the inside receivers or the slot receivers are the ones
Speaker 6: that run the little six yard hook.
Speaker 2: And they they don't get jammed around.
Speaker 6: They come right because they're off the ball. They're off
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. So you see them go in motion.
Speaker 6: A lot of teams that I've always wondered this, and
Speaker 6: I've I've not asked yet why they don't do this,
Speaker 6: but a lot of teams, when you have a great receiver,
Speaker 6: will put and then so what the other team does
Speaker 6: is they put their best defensive back on him. And
Speaker 6: so what you do is you put him in motion,
Speaker 6: you snap the ball right when he gets to like
Speaker 6: where the tight end is on the other side, and
Speaker 6: he just runs a little just a little up and
Speaker 6: out pattern and you just toss the ball to him.
Speaker 6: So he's got it in in, you know, and he's
Speaker 6: got some space to move right. They don't. Kentucky doesn't
Speaker 6: do that. I've always don't.
Speaker 1: Know why with Wandale.
Speaker 6: Yes, Wandell was a perfect example of that. And and
Speaker 6: again that excuse me. You see NFL teams do that
Speaker 6: a lot. And that's why because you but when want
Speaker 6: Dell was here, you had an NFL play college, you know,
Speaker 6: call it excuse me.
Speaker 3: The plays Jeff. Obviously by week, this week always means
Speaker 3: a lot of young guys getting reps. Cutter Bowlie's probably
Speaker 3: playing a ton but going just looking ahead a little bit.
Speaker 3: You play Murray State this next game. Obviously there FCS
Speaker 3: one and eight. Do you consider with all the injuries,
Speaker 3: like going all in on a game where you play
Speaker 3: like a lot of young guys. I know, bush Hamden
Speaker 3: was asked about Cutter playing significantly in this game, and
Speaker 3: you said it was something they had to take a
Speaker 3: look at. Like how would you if you're going into
Speaker 3: this game as Kentucky, how would you approach it? Knowing
Speaker 3: it's a game you should be able to handle your business?
Speaker 3: Did no matter what?
Speaker 6: Well eron, There's two questions you have to ask the
Speaker 6: first one, and I think this is the most important one, Okay,
Speaker 6: is who is your quarterback going forward? Okay? Is Brock
Speaker 6: gonna be here next year? Okay? That's that's their big
Speaker 6: question you have. You really have to ask, right if
Speaker 6: he's your quarterback? Okay, and you're dead set on he's
Speaker 6: the guy that's gonna bring this team to glory next season. Right.
Speaker 6: They said he was gonna do it this year. He hasn't.
Speaker 6: So do you stick with him or I want or
Speaker 6: do you say, Okay, I think it's time to put
Speaker 6: Cutter Bully in there. For two reasons. One, Rock's probably
Speaker 6: not gonna be here next year, so we want you
Speaker 6: to get some experience, and you're gonna get it against
Speaker 6: a level that you should be able to succeed at.
Speaker 6: And the one thing you don't want is to put
Speaker 6: Cutter in or have him start the game and he
Speaker 6: does what he did at Florida, throws a bad pass
Speaker 6: and gets intercepted. He goes two of eleven for seventeen yards.
Speaker 6: You know you can't have that. But to me, if
Speaker 6: I'm the coach, look are you gonna beat this team? Yes?
Speaker 6: And then the next week, can you beat Texas? Possibly,
Speaker 6: but you got to play your best game of the year.
Speaker 6: Then can you beat Louisville again? Possibly, But you gotta
Speaker 6: play like you did against Ole miss Right. If you
Speaker 6: think you can do that, then you have to play
Speaker 6: to win this game. If you're going for the future,
Speaker 6: you put Cutter Bowley in there. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 6: the bottom line.
Speaker 5: Speaking of young guys, Jeff, A lot of people scratch
Speaker 5: their heads when Bush Hampden in the postgame press conference
Speaker 5: admitted that it took UK a week or two too
Speaker 5: long to force Jamaran Willcox the ball. I mean, that's
Speaker 5: that's bizarre thing to say. But isn't he the guy
Speaker 5: that decides who gets the ball?
Speaker 2: Jeff? What did you make of those come?
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's it is kind of bizarre to
Speaker 6: hear that. I think it's one of the things where
Speaker 6: I think, and again I'm just thinking off the top
Speaker 6: of my head. Here, Chip Training was going to be
Speaker 6: their guy, right, I mean, he was the number one
Speaker 6: running back. And again I think all of us who
Speaker 6: saw the practices, the open practices, Chip can run. He's
Speaker 6: you know, he's a four to four, maybe even a
Speaker 6: little under four to four. He's built like you know,
Speaker 6: a Greek guy, so he can take the hits and stuff.
Speaker 6: But he breaks his wrist a week before the season,
Speaker 6: So now you're like, okay, Demi. He loves Demi because Demi,
Speaker 6: to him is the Swiss army knife that he's always had.
Speaker 6: If you look back at some of the teams that
Speaker 6: he's coached, he's always had that running back, that Christian McCafferty,
Speaker 6: and there's only one of him, but that type of
Speaker 6: guy that you can put it a slot, you can
Speaker 6: put he can pick up on blitz pick up, he
Speaker 6: can catch the ball out of the backfield, he can
Speaker 6: run between the tackles. I think that they he really
Speaker 6: likes that kind of back in his offense. And then
Speaker 6: he's saying, okay, I got three freshmen. If you put
Speaker 6: Micell in there with those guys at Patterson and him
Speaker 6: and those guys were going to be emergency youth type guys.
Speaker 6: And then you're five days before the first game and
Speaker 6: now you're told your number one tailback's done. Demi's gonna
Speaker 6: be your number one guy. We got to get these
Speaker 6: guys ready. And at that point, you gotta remember this
Speaker 6: chips learning a whole new offense, he wasn't here, right,
Speaker 6: so he's getting all the reps, and the reps he's
Speaker 6: not getting Demi's getting.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 6: So now you've got a fourth feed, and that's why
Speaker 6: you're hearing and we're in week what ten, and you're
Speaker 6: hearing him say, we're telling them before the game, these
Speaker 6: are the plays we're gonna use you on. See, so
Speaker 6: they're trying to put in his head from Patterson and Wilcox.
Speaker 6: You're gonna go in and this is what we're going
Speaker 6: to run.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, here's your little the six or seven plays we're
Speaker 6: gonna run with you in the game. Okay, go in there.
Speaker 6: And if you watch the game and you look at
Speaker 6: what ja Marian did, it's the you know, it's the
Speaker 6: same five six seven plays. They just did it two
Speaker 6: or three times with him and.
Speaker 1: Got Jeff, it's a few minutes left. Put your hat
Speaker 1: on now as a sports director and talk to us
Speaker 1: a little bit about basketball.
Speaker 2: It used to be you would sit.
Speaker 1: Up in your in your seats behind me in the
Speaker 1: in the press box as a fan, and now you
Speaker 1: have to work these games, or you get to work
Speaker 1: these games. But Billionaireon and I were just talking about
Speaker 1: that was kind of fun to see a veteran team
Speaker 1: running offense.
Speaker 2: Isn't it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. You can actually go and watch and
Speaker 6: see plays develop and see what they're trying to do.
Speaker 6: It's it's really interesting. And I'll tell you the thing
Speaker 6: that I like is to watch it on TV because
Speaker 6: you got guys that you know, know the game so
Speaker 6: much better than we do. And they're saying, well, look
Speaker 6: at they're doing, and you know, an X out and
Speaker 6: they're doing you know, they're doing. Watch this. He's coming
Speaker 6: off a double screen and you're like, you can actually
Speaker 6: see that, and I'm not look, I'm not knocking Cali.
Speaker 6: He had a great run here and the lot. But
Speaker 6: Cal was more NBA style, where it's just give the
Speaker 6: air and the ball and get out of the way.
Speaker 6: Give this guy the ball, get out of the way,
Speaker 6: get you know, dump it into Anthony and everybody run
Speaker 6: to the other end to play defense. You know, it's
Speaker 6: just such a different style. It's fun. I enjoy it.
Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what, guys, if you don't go
Speaker 6: see the women, you're missing out fun to watch it.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be yea.
Speaker 5: Jeff, we were talking about some of the biggest surprises
Speaker 5: of the UK basketball team. It's been a lot of
Speaker 5: sunshine and rainbows. But yeah, I mean, see, but what
Speaker 5: would be the reason why Kentucky would not have a
Speaker 5: successful season this year?
Speaker 6: You know, I disagreed with some people after I've seen
Speaker 6: them play a couple of times, they said they don't
Speaker 6: have any NBA talent. I think Jackson is a Jackson,
Speaker 6: Robinson is an NBA talent. I think Oway might be
Speaker 6: an NBA talent. I've got no problem with their big
Speaker 6: but yeah, I've got no problem with their bigs. You know,
Speaker 6: all three of them. I think, in the right situation,
Speaker 6: could could play in the NBA. So I you know,
Speaker 6: I think uh, I think they they said they have
Speaker 6: to figure out who the alpha is. I don't think
Speaker 6: they figure that out yet. There has to be that
Speaker 6: guy that's that at the end of the game. Is
Speaker 6: the John wall is the Antoine Walker? Is the guy
Speaker 6: that said Kenny Walker. Jamal Mashman gives me, you know,
Speaker 6: it's the Larry Bird. They break the huddle and he
Speaker 6: and you know, the coaches diagramming this play and they
Speaker 6: break the huddle. And if you've ever seen anything on
Speaker 6: Larry Bird, he said, you want to win the damn game.
Speaker 6: Give me the ball and they throw it into him
Speaker 6: and he makes it.
Speaker 1: You don't think Jackson Robinson. I mean, I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about that. He's got the attitude of bird. But in
Speaker 1: terms of who you want the ball to have, I
Speaker 1: got to think it's Jackson Robinson or Oway.
Speaker 2: He can he is.
Speaker 6: I like, I like him. He's he's got some thickness
Speaker 6: to him. Man, he can take those. You know, he
Speaker 6: looks like you know what you reminds me. He reminds
Speaker 6: me some of those Villanova guys. Remember they were always
Speaker 6: dick They look like running backs, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, before we let you go, you worked the
Speaker 1: women's game, and I think you've got tomorrow night's game
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 6: Tomorrow. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I had the same reaction. I was three or
Speaker 1: four seats down from you at the women's game and
Speaker 1: I'm watching them and I'm like, this is a different
Speaker 1: style of different and again not knocking kyra Elzy. Matthew
Speaker 1: Mitchell had a completely different style with that running and
Speaker 1: you know, mid court defense and all. But in terms
Speaker 1: of half court offense, plus a point guard who knows
Speaker 1: exactly what she's doing, yeah, that's a huge plus.
Speaker 6: Well, Dick. The other thing is the athleticism is no.
Speaker 6: I mean there there may not be a woman that
Speaker 6: played on last year's team that could play five minutes
Speaker 6: for this team, Mattie maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Other than that, I don't know. That's how much better
Speaker 6: the team is than last year. They just they weren't
Speaker 6: They really weren't that good last year. I mean they
Speaker 6: were at times were atrocious. This team has got great size.
Speaker 6: As you said, they got great. Here's the big thing
Speaker 6: that you just wished wouldn't have happened. The two girls
Speaker 6: that are missing the season because of the ACL and
Speaker 6: the Achilles injury. Both of them would have been playing
Speaker 6: twenty five to already minutes the game at both of
Speaker 6: them being huge contributors, and that that's really hurt his
Speaker 6: depth in the back court.
Speaker 1: Watch for Jeff of Coral here in lexing in on
Speaker 1: WTVQ and listen for him along with Tom Bleach as
Speaker 1: he calls the action of Wildcatch and Murray State A
Speaker 1: week from Saturday. Enjoy your weekend off, sir, and we'll
Speaker 1: see you down the road.
Speaker 6: Thanks guys. Going to Pete Roses Celebrational Life Sunday.
Speaker 2: Oh good for you.
Speaker 1: Let us know how that goes. We'll talk about that
Speaker 1: on next Monday and we'll come back with more. A right,
Speaker 1: g BBI, just a minute, stay with us, our thanks
Speaker 1: again to Jeffe Coral for being with us. Got him
Speaker 1: with on the third ring. That was pretty good. The
Speaker 1: third Ring UK men's basketball Saturdays.
Speaker 2: So I guess you're in here. You don't have your
Speaker 2: feet up watching football.
Speaker 3: They do that on the bye week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well and you gotta work, come as
Speaker 1: do I.
Speaker 2: Uh but uh yeah, poor Billy thought he'd be out
Speaker 2: of this, out of.
Speaker 1: This cocoon here.
Speaker 3: That's okay. It's not a bad gig.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. Plus the basketball days are not as
Speaker 2: long as that's right.
Speaker 3: This is very true all the way around.
Speaker 2: And you can you can watch football wire.
Speaker 5: I got twinkies over there, Dick, I got the games.
Speaker 5: I got all these big screen TVs.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 5: I'm talking to you.
Speaker 3: Half the it's awesome.
Speaker 2: Not there's no heavy lifting.
Speaker 3: No, no, it's awesome. Not it's not a must Every
Speaker 3: time you say it ends up being great football. But
Speaker 3: it's not a musty slate just looking through. I mean,
Speaker 3: if Georgia Ole Miss, that's pretty good. You have Alabama
Speaker 3: LSU at night. That'll be after the Kentucky game, so
Speaker 3: not missing too much.
Speaker 1: Lane Kevin said, there are two plays away.
Speaker 2: From being undefeated Old Miss.
Speaker 3: Should it just be a crappy I can think of one.
Speaker 2: Kentucky played superbly that day. That's gonna do it. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us. It's a good night
Speaker 2: from Lexington.