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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Bobby Brown and welcome to another fucking podcast.

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Speaker 2: Kids with your loud music and your Dan Fogelberg, your Zeema,

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hula hoops and pac Man video games.

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Speaker 3: Don't you see? People today have attention spans that can

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only be measured in namos, seconds, old legends.

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Speaker 2: They just do great like a legend and an Adam

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work from with a lot of like.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hello Las Vegas, Hello world, Hello, my loyal minions.

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Speaker 3: It is good to see you. It is always good

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to be seeing. I'm Mizzie Presley, the host of the program.

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It's called Another Referent Podcast. And if you're new, welcome.

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If you're not welcome, it's good to see you. Guys,

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got a great show for you this week. My good

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friend Keith Roth from Sirius xm hair Nation and Ozzie's

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Boneyard is going to join the show in a little bit.

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His brand new record is called The Law of Diminished Returns.

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It is right here. It is available right now, and

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you'll see the link down there along with all the

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other links you guys should click and check out and

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buy stuff from and support because that's what we do. Also,

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got a got the return of that's right dating tips

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with porn stars taking from the a v NS in

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January here in Las Vegas, Nevada. I have Nicky Viscious

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and Michelle Danielle and they're in the trans one. They're

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the trans category. A couple of beautiful gals and very

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insightful and entertaining. That's gonna be coming up in here

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just in a little bit. Make sure you guys do

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check out the Las Vegas Guitar Trade Show that is

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coming up in the end of May into the beginning

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of June. That weekend is going to be great. I'm

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hosting that. I'll be hosting on the on the Blue Cruise,

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which is in August the end of August twenty second

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through the twenty ninth, leaving out of Boston and going

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nort and then next week I will be on Cruise

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to the Edge, which is the prog cruise. Excited about

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that as I do every year, along with my good

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friend Brian Ot DJ Beef himself or as I called

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him Brian from Sheboygan when he came up to play

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on the Monsters Cruise with us. I'm hosting karaoke and

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doing all the hosting stuff along with my good brother

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mister Mike Dawson, make sure you guys do hit up

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that Patreon. If you are the Patreon, you're getting this

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right now ad free. If you're not on the Patreon,

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you're getting this on Saturday. That's how it works. But

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if you're listening to it, you get ads unless you're

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on the Patreon. Patreon, dot com slash real Izzy Presley,

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it's only five dollars a month. Get on that. It's cheap,

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extra bonus content. You get the shows before everybody else.

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You get shows that nobody else gets. Only the Patreon folks,

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come on, join the show. It would be glorious of you.

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Welcome to the family. That's right. I am currently working

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on the Hall of Fame show. I'm reaching out to

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a couple of people that are going to be inducted

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in this first class Yes, full disclosure. Stealing this idea

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from my good pals Tom and Zeus over on the

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Shout It Out Loudcast. I've actually been thinking about this

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for a long time and hearing them do their Hall

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of Fame episode, it was like, ah, fuck it, it's time.

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I'm gonna do it. I'm inducting five people I've been

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who they are going to be going to start working

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on that as soon as you get back from the

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on the Blue from a Cruise of the Edge. So

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I'll be gone from the second to the ninth and

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try to get some Patreon content for you guys, because

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you guys are not going to be on Cruise of

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the Edge. A lot of you guys are on Monsters,

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so it's like, yeah, what's the point you guys are there?

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behind the scenes stuff to do. I was so fucking busy,

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so busy on Monsters, but I love it. You know,

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five shows, karaoke, two comedy shows, my two fucking cruiser jams,

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all the hosting stuff, introducing bands. I went out and

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married a couple on the beach. It wasn't real because

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the cruise ship owns the beach, so the captain has

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to do it if they want to be legal. So

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maybe they'll come out in Vegas and no, I we'll

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do it for real. So there is that. What else

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do we got? Make sure you guys hit up all

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the socials real? Is he presley? Although okay, all the

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way across the board Twitter, Instamment, Facebook, and of course

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that is the same as the Venmo. All that information

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is down underneath. And of course, well it's on cameo too.

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on the website. Is he Presley dot com And shout

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did that website for me. So thank you very much, Steven.

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I actually haven't looked at it lately, which I should

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putting blogs and news stories and stuff like that. So

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we're gonna do a lot of that kind of fun

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stuff now. Obviously, earlier this week there was a show

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where I vented about kiss and joked at the same time. Now,

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let me get this straight. I fucking love kiss. Kiss

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is the reason I do what I do. It all

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comes back to fucking kiss. Sometimes you have to, you know,

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call it as you see it. And don't get me wrong,

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I would love to go that would be fucking fun,

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But the fucking packages came out cheapest one, starting at

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nine hundred and ninety nine, so basically a thousand bucks

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a person, and well it's just you know, a thousand

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person I'm sorry, eleven nine starting at that comes that

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lose your fees and taxes. Oh but wait, there's more

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three hundred and twenty nine dollars per person per night.

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you're still both paying three hundred and thirty bucks a night.

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next one, the next one twelve hundred and sixty nine

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a month or a month per person, so thirteen twenty

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nine or thirteen eighty nine I'm sorry, plus four hundred

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and nineteen per person per night. Oh but you get

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round trip shuttled to and from the airport with that one,

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so there's that. Oh, then it kicks up another thousand

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dollars thirteen hundred dollars actually twenty six to fifty nine

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plus is that say, eight hundred and eighty nine dollars

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a night per person? Oh yes, it does, so twenty

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eight twenty nine total with fees and taxes, plus another

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nine hundred dollars per person per night. Oh but wait,

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there's more forty nine oh nine, which is really fifty

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one forty nine with taxes and fees, plus an extra

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sixteen one hundred and thirty nine dollars a month. A month,

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sixteen hundred and thirty dollars thirty nine dollars a night

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per person. So yeah, I guess who's not going to

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see Kiss? And I'm not gonna lie as if you

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listen to the show earlier this week, I pretty much

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talk myself into wanting to go. But there's no fucking way.

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There is no fucking way. How do they expect people

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to afford this? This is ricoculous. Of course, you're talking

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to a broke guy. You're not talking to somebody with money.

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If you have money, man, have fun. I'm not saying

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don't go. You got the fucking money, go. It's just

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like the cruises. Yeah, they're fucking expensive. Are they worth it?

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Your goddamn right they are. And this is basically a

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Kiss cruise on land and they haven't even announced who's

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all playing, if there's gonna be more bands, I don't

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fucking know. I'm sure many of you will correct me

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on that. So but look, if you want to go, man,

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go have fun, have a blast. It's fucking kiss You'll

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be surrounded by fellow kiss tards. It'll be fucking great.

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I am one. I'm more of a geek than a tard.

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But whatever, what can you do. I also came across

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this news story has to do with soccer. I know,

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I know a lot of you are falling asleep just

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with the word soccer. It's the only thing American sports

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fans care less about than the WNBA. But this has

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to do with hot trim Argentina fan who went topless

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at the World Cup final escapes punishment in qatars. So

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of course, you know women can't be naked and qatar

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in public. Oh it was her and her friend. They're

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both Argentinian and they're both hot, and they're fucking hot.

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And I can't find any fucking pictures of it unblurred,

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which really pisses me off. Then I dug a little

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bit more into the article. Oh they've got their fucking

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uh you know, they're posing topless posting the pictures, but

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they're blurred because they're on Instagram, so they have their

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Instagram handles, and I'm like, oh, let's check these brods

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out private accounts. Of course, you know these brods are

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fucking OnlyFans girls, you know they are good for them,

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good for them. God damn, they're fucking hot too. Jesus Christ,

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Jesus Christ, Ladies and gentlemen, it is true. I can

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finally say something positive about soccer, and it has to

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do with naked hot brods. God bless naked hot broads.

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They are a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful thing. God bless

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hot trim. I'm looking at all these pictures there, they

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are there, they are blurred, so dumb, it's so I

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wonder if I just did a little so fema crash

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nude blurred, covered, blurred, blurred. This is horseshit. Look at

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those things. They're fucking tremendous. Oh wait a minute, hold on, now,

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this is okay, Miss is bullshit because they have pasties

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on They are not fucking okay. Now I'm pissed. I

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got all worked up, all excited. They have fucking pasties

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on their nipples. Pasties, Oh hold on, yeah, pasties tape

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covering their fucking This is so fucking misleading. This is horseshit,

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fock soccer, so dumb. It's so you tease me with

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topless hot chicks. You tease me. I love boobs, We

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all love boobs. Boobs are unbelievable. But no, gotta have

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tape over there. It's not topless. Yes, the boobs are

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flopping all over the place. Well, actually no, those are

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pretty fakes and they're probably not very floppy. But they're

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covered up. Why they're all covered up? So dumb. Jesus Christ.

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Not only am I hungover, Not only do I have

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to poop. Now I'm bummed. I'm depressed because you can't

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actually see the boobs. It's a tease. It's all a

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fucking tease. It's horseshit, so dumb. Stop if you're gonna

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show the boobs, show the boobs, like Edmonton Oiler's Gal

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last year in the playoffs showed her boobs. You can

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see those, you can find those. This is dumb, stupid, horseshit.

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I'm still looking at them, and now I'm getting even

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more mad. Now I'm getting even more pissed. I mean,

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look at those things. I want to see those taunting

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me with the thought about being able to see boobs,

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and then you can't see boobs. So dumb, so dumb.

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I don't know what to say. I don't know. I'm

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at a loss for words. It's brutal. Why would you

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do that? So dumb? And now I keep going back

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and looking at him, and I'm getting more pissed. It's

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just not right. It's just not right, your argentine in

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show them. It's not that big of a deal there.

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It's boobes. It's fucking boobes. Don't tease me with boobs.

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I could keep this going for hours, but I'm not

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going to. But speaking of boobs, no you're not going

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to see boobs in the show. But I'm going to

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give you two gals with boobs. It is time for

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you guessed it? Dating tips from porn stars and these

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are Nicky Vicious and Michelle Danielle. We do not discriminate here,

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so I figured why not have a couple transcals do

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it who are both fucking gorgeous to so whatever. Here

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it is dating tips of porn stars. Nicky Vicious, Michelle

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Danielle and we will be right back right after that

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with Keith Roth, Serious XM, Ozzie's Boneyard Hair Nation, The Dictators,

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David Johansson. Dude's got a great musical history. We get

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into a lot of that. We get into pizza, we

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get into sports, we get into a lot of stuff.

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It's a fun conversation by his new record, The Law

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of Dimensional Returns. This is another fucking podcast, and it's

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time for.

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Speaker 1: And now it's time for dating Tips from porn Stars.

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Speaker 3: Another reform podcasts, Dating Tips from corn Stars. We got

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nicky dishes and all right, we all know confidences cakes,

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We're taking that off the table. What's more important? Looks?

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Money or humor? Humor? All right? Is it important for

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the guy to make the first move? Is it important

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for the guy to make the first move? Not necessarily?

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Speaker 2: Not enough?

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Speaker 3: Well do you think that's because guys aren't as straightforward anymore?

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Speaker 3: I think curls are a little more and like, fuck,

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we're a little nothing wrong with that. Can you smell desperation?

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I don't know, can you smell me?

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Speaker 2: That's my law?

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Speaker 3: Text?

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Speaker 2: Re call?

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Speaker 3: Oh text, you prefer the phone call? A little more

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old school all right, how long do you wait to

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tell a guy or what you do? Guys? I'm very

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honest right away the throug ho ut all right, and

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people want to find you guys. Where I going to

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find you? Socials all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: I guess whatever, the fucking.

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Speaker 3: Bird website, thank you Vicious x xx, or you know,

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just google me uping around.

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Speaker 2: A long time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, by Google, you'll find me out many dads, holy pads, fastly,

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royal pads, pretty much everywhere. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: That was Dating Tips from Porn Stars. Now back to

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another FN podcast with Izzy Presley.

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Speaker 3: All right, we are back in That, of course, was

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another edition of Dating Tips with porn stars from the

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avans Nicky Vicious and Michelle Danielle. Uh. Keith Roth is

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with us from Serious XM and of course the Dictators,

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and he's got a brand new album which is out

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now right.

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Speaker 2: It's out in the universe, man.

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Speaker 3: It's in the universe. Yeah, it's fucking It is called,

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uh the Law of Diminished Returns. And before we get

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into that, Nicky Vicious, by the way, she's like a

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punk metal girl and that's how I know her through Twitter.

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I expect mutual fucking musical interest, you know. It was.

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It was like, Oh, this is fucking wild.

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Speaker 2: What's the what's the background of nicky Canadian Canadians?

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Speaker 3: Yep cock probably bigger than mine, is Uh she, like

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I said, she is of the trans unit. However the

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fuck you say that?

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Speaker 2: Well, we should be in your hometown, I mean Minnesota,

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and we should go to the Gay nineties.

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Speaker 3: That's still open, right, yeah it is, it is, But

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I mean West Hollywood's closer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. That's true. I'm gonna go there and

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visit you in Dawson and do that whole casey caseum.

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Speaker 3: I mean you guys had isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, oh man? That was great. I mean I

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had to pull out my Wilson picket right on record

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after that. I was like, you guys brought me back

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in time and Dog and Dawson together are great.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Hold on, let me

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take a sip of my Seltzer water here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Trader Joe's water, right.

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Speaker 3: Ah, Kroger, Kroger, it's the cranberry lime. It is quite delicious.

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Uh So, Keith and I just got off of the

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mosses of Rock cruise and finally detox. Finally all all

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everything is out of my body that we put in

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at the buffet. How are you feeling? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I mean that was a great cruise, man, that was

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great cruise. You know, I didn't really officially jump on

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to like about a month out, but I'm so glad

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I went on there. I keep my record now five

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years in a row. I know you've been on it,

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what twelve thirteen times or any everyone everyone, They've all

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been great, but I don't know about this last one.

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It was just the best one for me. I don't

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know why. They've all been phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: Well, one you had Rose tattoo. Yep, and that's fucking

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rose tattoo. And where else are you going to get?

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Chris Holmes and everyone Keith Jeff Keith from Tesla singing

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Neil fucking Neil Young, No, Neil Young rocking in the

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Free World together on karaoke.

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Speaker 2: You know I missed that. Where was I that night?

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Speaker 3: I was the last night?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I was after the hardest party and yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I think I fell asleep in the chair in that

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and we're with the Q Steakhouse at the end. Yeah,

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they woke up packed and got au. Jeff Keith was

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interesting though, because every time I saw, or at least twice,

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he had like this grape stem and he's pretending to

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smoke reefer and he keeps passing it to me, and

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I played along. I don't know what he was doing,

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but I played along, like, you know, smoking the grape

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stems with him. And Chris Holmes was hysterical, I mean,

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and Michael Monroe had such a great time with those. Yeah,

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Rose Tattoo, always delivering the goods. La Guns just a

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great you know, a great voyage, another one in the books.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you are going to be on the next

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one that we are doing together, because I have Cruise

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at the Edge next week and then the end of May,

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I mean the end of August we have on the Blue, and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be back on the Blue. I love that

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cruise and we've got some really great fun.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: The cool thing about that is me and you really

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get to hang because, like you know, Mons is a

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rocket's you know, it's crazy, man. We have a lot

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of fun, but we're working. And then and on the

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Blue we have those pockets where we get drunk together, which.

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Speaker 3: Is yeah, exactly, and I like those pockets. I mean

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getting drunk part hey, I enjoy that, you know.

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Speaker 2: Geting drunk with Izzy Presley is always one of the highlights.

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Speaker 3: And Dawson and he's the best. So let me we

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the reason you're here is to talk about the record.

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We're going to get into your past, your history and

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all that kind of fun stuff. The record is out now,

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and how long you've been working on this?

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Speaker 2: Keith chipping away for about two years maybe two and

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a half years. Actually, you know what the funniest thing is,

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I finished the first mixes when we left for the

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Alice Cooper Cruise, because I remember finishing those mixes and

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literally going right to the airport. So that was the first, uh,

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the first start of the law of Diministry.

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Speaker 3: That was last year was or was that two years ago?

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I think that was two years ago.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Was it twenty two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That was h Yeah, it's all they all fucking blow together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I remember that clear as day, finishing

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that and then jumping on with you guys. So, I mean,

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initially it was supposed to be a Frankenstein three thousand record,

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you know, it was time to make a new one.

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And then as I started, you know, laying down some

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you know, recording some tracks, people were you know, they

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were mostly demos at that point, people were like, this

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is a little out of the box for Frankenstein and

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then you know, submitting stuff to the dictators, and I

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just felt it was really personal. It was my buddy

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Danny from the Ban Angel said, you know, dude, people

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know you from radio and people know you from music.

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Why don't you just bring the two worlds together and

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just call it Keith Roth and make it simple. And

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since these these songs are different than a little bit

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different than what you've been doing, make a solo record.

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And he's the one that kind of you know, planted

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that seat in my head.

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Speaker 3: So the vibe that I got because I'm not gonna lie,

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I'm not very familiar with your band's music, and straight

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up and fucking honest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'd expect nothing less from you, man.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly exactly you to be a man, exactly. And

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so I mean I got a a lot of like

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early seventies like Bowie type space vibe. That is that

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is that a fair way to assess it? Okay? Oh yeah,

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there you go.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you remember the band Space Panther. I

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gave you that record, Yes, yes, yes, It's like, you know,

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I grew up. You know, my brother's you know, my

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middle brother's twelve years older than me. So when around

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my house man you'd hear the Who's Zeppelin, the Stooges,

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MC five. No one knew who these bands really were

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at that point, you know, Curtis Mayfield. And then around

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nineteen eighty seven eighty eight, to me, music got so

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homogenized that I just went reverted back to everything that

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I grew up on. And that's been ever since, to

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be honest with you, I mean, it's been some great.

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Speaker 3: Great wild that isn't a wild that the older we get.

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That's kind of what we do. Yeah, you know, I mean,

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because it's like, you know, in the eighties, I was

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all about the eighties. Fucking I'm not even gonna say

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the word, but the eighties glam rock is like I

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call it. I hate the fucking term hair metal. It's

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just I know it's I know it's eternally accepted now,

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but whatever, I just don't like it. I think it's

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a slap in the face.

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Speaker 2: It is it's disrespectful because you know, I mean to

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be honest. You know, I loved I always loved Faster

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pussy Cat and La Guns and Guns N' Roses. But

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when I got on Hair Nation, I really didn't know

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Slaughter or Firehouse. And then you meet these guys and

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they're incredible musicians, they're incredible people. And then you go

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on these cruises and the fan base is so loyal

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and it's so lovable that it was like it was

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a second you know, I caught it after the fact.

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And then I remember my band, Frankenstime. We did some

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stuff with Cinderella, and I was like, what an incredible band,

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And I was thinking of my sode, you know. And

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at that point, the Stones were having issues with Ronnie Wood,

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and I'm watching Tom Keefer side stage. I'm like, there's

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your guy. There's your guy that you know. This guy

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plays piano, he plays guitar, he sings like a motherfucker.

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There's your replacement for Ronnie Wood right there. You know.

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So it's cool that I got to experience a lot

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of this stuff after the fact, which makes it even

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more kind of fun and exciting.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, absolutely, But like you know, back to the

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point is how we revert back to the older stuff,

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because like when like even when I'm at Goodwill and

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I'm digging through the vinyl, I get excited about finding

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a Wilson Pickett record. I get excited, you know, about

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that kind of stuff. And yeah, I get excited. I mean,

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actually I get a boner when I find like an

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eighties rock record, because you never see those. I mean,

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it's like when I pulled out the fucking Meet the Beatles,

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you know, from Goodwill.

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Speaker 2: That's the best.

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Speaker 3: It's like, what are you You're never gonna find this,

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but there's just gems and it just more. I listened

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to that sixties and seventies music, It's like, oh fuck,

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it's just and then like it as you heard in

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when you were listening to me in Dawson, which you

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can only get on the Patreon by the way, patreon

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dot com slash real Izzie Presley highly recommended, highly recommend it.

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Yes is the bass playing, oh my god, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: You know I heard you bring that up last night,

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and Antley she started thinking of guys like Parkish John

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who played with like Lou Reed rock and roll Animal,

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and you know, obviously Jamison. You know these guys they

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played base. They're bass players. They're not guitar players that

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you know played bass because by demotion, you know what

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I mean. I mean these guys is really you know,

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Dennis Dunaway, these guys really are bass players. And you're

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bringing that up with such a great point because it's

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so true. You know, the way they make they make

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the rumble, the groove, the lines that they.

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Speaker 3: Come up with is duck Dunn. I mean, here, come on, now, were.

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Speaker 2: You kidding me? One of the greatest of all time?

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Speaker 3: I mean, right exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's why you know I love Curtis Mayfield Records and

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all the Parliament Funkadelic, you know, Funkadelic in general. I'm

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you know, I've got Bootsy. I mean, there's so many

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Geddy Lee He's you know, he's a he's a phenomenal

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bass player. But but but you where you're talking about

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with the grooves of Wilson Pickett and all that stuff, Yeah,

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no one really does that anymore or knows.

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Speaker 3: How to do it. Dude, Even those early Kiss records,

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Gene was a monster fucking player, and he doesn't get

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the credit. I mean, Kiss never gets credit. Anyways for

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you know, for being musical, which is bullshakes. It's almost

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like Caveman Prague those first three records, it's like, what

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the fuck are you doing?

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Speaker 2: And that's pretty much Prague is. It's like, what the

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fuck are you doing? Yeah, that's exactly it. It's guys

464
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,160
that grew up in the garage together that didn't know

465
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,920
what they were doing and turned it into something where

466
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,480
nobody could do what they're doing is really what it became.

467
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:10,920
You know. It's funny you mentioned kissed them. I read

468
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,000
an old interview with Mike Bloomfield, one of the greatest

469
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,200
guitar players ever Electric Flag, and he was saying like, well,

470
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,960
who do you dig? And this was like in the

471
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:21,440
mid seventies, and he's like, Ace Freely is like one

472
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,759
of the greatest, you know, new guitar and that's coming

473
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:26,839
from Mike Bloomfield and guitar players like when they you know,

474
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,480
they bow down to Mike Bloomfield. So he was able

475
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,559
to recognize all the great stuff that Ace was doing,

476
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,240
you know.

477
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: Back then, right right, I mean, like Ace, especially in

478
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,039
the seventies, like yeah, seventy five, seventy six, he was

479
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:44,559
unfucking touchable I mean, you listen to that live version

480
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:48,000
one hundred thousand years that I don't. There's something about

481
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,599
what he plays.

482
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,599
Speaker 2: I call him the middle step because there was Jimmy

483
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,319
was so influential, and then there was Ace, and then

484
00:29:57,319 --> 00:30:00,640
there was Edward. I mean, really, that's the three guys

485
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,440
to me that influenced everybody. Everybody, And of course there's

486
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,720
a lot of great ones. There's zillion guitar players and

487
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,920
so many are great, but those are the three steps

488
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,400
to iconic influential guitar players. Jimmy Ace and uh well

489
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,279
you can throw Jimmy Page in there as well too,

490
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,960
and Jeff Beck. But you're talking about a whole masses

491
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:21,279
of people. Those three are the ones that got to

492
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:21,880
the masses.

493
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,359
Speaker 3: Yep. And it all starts with Scotty Moore.

494
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. And I'm sure he got it

495
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,559
from somebody as well, right.

496
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: Oh, no, exactly exactly. But so the record is out now,

497
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:34,680
where can people find the record?

498
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: The Keith anywhere? Anywhere to buy records at? You know, obviously,

499
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:40,680
I know I did this really cool thing on Talk

500
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,920
Shop Live, which such a great show, and they got

501
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,519
some signed copies. They're Amazon, you know, a lot of

502
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:50,599
record stores, brick and mortar places have it, Deco Entertainment,

503
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:53,720
dot com. You know, so it's out there. The vinyl

504
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,680
has have come out until April twenty fifth. The CD

505
00:30:56,759 --> 00:30:59,160
and digital stuff is out there now, which is cool and.

506
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:01,279
Speaker 3: Well, it's good to know that they're catching up with

507
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,160
the vinyl because there was a long time where it's

508
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,920
like the CD would come out, then a year later

509
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,000
the vinyl would come out.

510
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pressing plants are they're more and more popping

511
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,240
up and uh, you know, yeah, they're moving the turnarounds

512
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,319
a lot quicker too, which and you know that. Listen,

513
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:17,160
the kids that I talk to, and I talk to

514
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,559
a lot of kids the next generation, like if they don't,

515
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,160
they'll use streaming to decide if they're going to buy

516
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,880
the record. Right, buying the record means vinyl. It's like

517
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,720
when we were kids again. It's like, you know, if

518
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,440
you walk through my neighborhood right now, it's like that

519
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:31,799
seventies show. You know, they got the long hair of

520
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:34,440
the flannel shirts. They're wearing discipline of pink floyd shirts

521
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,519
and they're listening to the same shit that we grew

522
00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:38,559
up on, that we smoked, you know, Weoul getting high

523
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:40,200
in the woods with. I mean, it's the same thing.

524
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,880
They love the Who And it's funny what the new

525
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,359
gets old much faster than the old gets older.

526
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: And speaking of that seventieshow I mean, look at this

527
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:54,440
fucking covers. That's space tight eye you know, wrapped up

528
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,839
into one big donut of course the back cover. Yeah,

529
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,839
just fucking great. What was the inspiration?

530
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,079
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of an autobiographical record, even though

531
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:05,880
I didn't realize it. Like there's a couple of covers

532
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,839
on there, like Curtis Mayfield, Superfly and straw Man with

533
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:13,160
Roster Boss playing on it. But you know, I mean

534
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,079
all of it is you know, from you know, stories

535
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,680
on my youth and my youth the stories of friends

536
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,240
of mine went through. It's just a real honest record,

537
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,480
you know, some of the all the lyrics come from

538
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:27,279
a real honest point of view. And obviously, as you know,

539
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:31,880
my inspirations are you know, t Rex Bowie. Yeah, if

540
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,160
you want to get modern, maybe Elliott Smith and people

541
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,400
like that. But it's, uh, you know, I don't lie

542
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,119
about it. I do what I do and that's it.

543
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:40,000
You know, if you like it, cool, if not, you know,

544
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:42,200
what can I tell you? You know, you listen?

545
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:46,599
Speaker 3: Is he there? You go listen to Izzy. I'll say,

546
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:48,599
other than being an East are you, are you an

547
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,880
East Coast pizza snob?

548
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,119
Speaker 2: No? Not really. I mean I love New York PiZZ

549
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,400
It's the greatest peace in the world. Brooklyn p I mean,

550
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,400
but you know, New Jersey has really become. You know,

551
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,319
it's a suburb of New York City. If you google

552
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:03,440
my town, it says suburb of New York City. So

553
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,400
a lot of the pizza guys came down here. So

554
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,759
I think the pizza is the best. But I'm not

555
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:09,839
a snob. I've had great pizza in Minnesota.

556
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: I've had oh oh do that Midwestern tavern style with

557
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,720
the fucking square cuts. I mean, to me, that's where

558
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,839
it's at because that's what I grew up on. But

559
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,119
I can still appreciate other fucking styles of pizza.

560
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

561
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,039
Speaker 3: What I mean. I hate these guys like, oh, there's

562
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:27,079
no good pizza anywhere, But no, fuck you, there's good

563
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:28,039
pizza everywhere.

564
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:30,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I prefer New York pizza over Chicago. But

565
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:33,079
if I was born in Chicago, I may think differently.

566
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: That's what I'm like here, here's the Here's the thing though,

567
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:41,039
is Chicagan's don't eat that fucking deep dish lazagna. They

568
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:44,759
eat the thin crust tavern style. It's that's the tourist

569
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,720
thing is they have to get the fucking lasagna, which

570
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:49,119
I can get round lasagna.

571
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,359
Speaker 2: Well, I guess with everybody when they go to Chicago,

572
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,559
the first couple of times they you know, they got

573
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:57,720
like the same thing in Philadelphia. You know, at cheese steaks.

574
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:00,400
There's so many great places, but people go to the

575
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,759
two obvious places, which are phenomenal, but there's you can't

576
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:06,400
get a bad cheese steak anywhere in Philadelphia And.

577
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: Oh, you can't get a bad cheese steak anywhere. Well,

578
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,960
that's true, it's true. I mean, it's a fucking cheese steak. Oh,

579
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,480
it's the bread of the fuck off. Fuck off.

580
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,679
Speaker 2: There is something magical about New York bread though I

581
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,360
don't know the water or the Yeah, there's something real

582
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,079
special to that.

583
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 3: It's it's the piss in the water that gives it

584
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,000
that favor.

585
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: Yes, the water, rat uh, defecation and all that stuff.

586
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,519
It's intertwined in there, but there is something good about it.

587
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,119
Speaker 3: No, kay, This is your third time on the show,

588
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:42,159
and we've never really delved into your history because the

589
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,719
first time it was was it. It was the Drunken Summit.

590
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: I believe, I believe that was it.

591
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the next one was with Flip.

592
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was really cool, and I thank you for

593
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,920
Like I said, there's always these bands that come through

594
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,000
the cracks. You know, I fancy myself as a music college,

595
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,559
but there's always so much stuff to learn. And then

596
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:04,400
you got me in a flip a couple of years ago.

597
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,800
Loved the band Great Records, and you know, so that

598
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,880
was really cool being a part of it. And that's

599
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,079
ironically that CD I sent you. You know, my band

600
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,679
Frankenstein was on a Dolls tribute with the late great

601
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,239
David Johansson and I'm I was looking for ten inch

602
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,079
poly bags. There you go, you go. I had to

603
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:28,440
send that to you because I was looking. I appreciate

604
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,079
it because I have OCD. I found some ten inches

605
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,400
that aren't poly bag, so I went to the storage

606
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:36,320
and I grabbed them, and behind it there was a

607
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,239
couple of CDs. I'm like, oh my god, I remember this,

608
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,440
and they were signed and then I flip over. I'm

609
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,239
like Flip is on this record with Steve Jones and

610
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,280
they're signed by David. I'm like, I got to send

611
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,360
this to Izzy like it was meant and I meant

612
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,159
to bring it on the cruise and it was on

613
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,480
my mantle. But now at least I got to mal

614
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:51,800
it to it.

615
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, and it's appreciated. And you know, the first

616
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,480
two times you were on it, I didn't know that

617
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,079
you played with David Johansson. How did how did you

618
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:05,400
get in that in that circle? How did you get

619
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,880
in in Dave's radar?

620
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: You know, I played with a lot of people before that.

621
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,440
Me and David started working together at Sirius. We were friends,

622
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:20,880
you know, Okay, we we Frankenstein opened up a couple

623
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,199
of shows for him, and we always got along really good.

624
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:25,559
And then Meg Griffin thought I'd be a you know,

625
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,480
a great producer because the way we hit it off.

626
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:31,360
And then one night we were playing Don Hill's Frankets

627
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,920
and David came out with Marin. He's like, dude, I

628
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,679
didn't know you were you know, I love your band

629
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,760
so much. He goes, and that's probably a bad thing

630
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,079
because I told the Ramones to get day jobs. But

631
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:45,679
he goes, but you know, musically, and then you know,

632
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,039
we started doing some Johansson group stuff and he made

633
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:50,880
me his musical director for those gigs and I went

634
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,559
in the studio with him and as a matter of fact,

635
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,559
that track that's on that record, when they asked us

636
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:57,119
to be on it, I said to him, as a joke,

637
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:58,880
I'm like, hey, they asked us to be on this

638
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,280
Dolls tribute. I mean you would want to sing with us?

639
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,360
And he's like, what song you're doing and he goes, well, maybe,

640
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,440
And then when we cut the bedtrack, he's like, yeah,

641
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,519
I'll sing on that track, and he goes, do me

642
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,079
a favor, and we scheduled when he was going to

643
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,199
come to the studio and do it, and he said,

644
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:17,960
bring the lyrics. And I'm like, you wrote these lyrics.

645
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,039
What do you tell you? He goes, well, if you

646
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:23,079
go on the internet, they're close enough. Just bring it.

647
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,920
So we finished the session and he absolutely hit it

648
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,639
out of park because I had seen him, you know,

649
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:29,400
he was doing the Harry Smith stuff and he was

650
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,480
singing more of the folky stuff. He hasn't rocked like that,

651
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:34,519
and he just crushed it. And then he told me

652
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:37,119
right after he goes that Morrissey is doing this event

653
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:39,639
in London and he was the president of the New

654
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,960
York Dolls fan club and it was his dream to

655
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,800
get the Dolls back together. And Marris he it was

656
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,760
only supposed to be a show or two is He

657
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,480
Stradlin was supposed to play guitar, But while they're over there,

658
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:52,760
they wound up booking like eight or ten gigs and

659
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,599
then is He's like, well, it's too much. And then

660
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,800
they wound up doing that for fourteen years, and you

661
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,519
know so but and then after that, you know, me

662
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,360
and David, you know, we did a bunch of those

663
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,239
Johanson Group shows and such a blast, you know, doing

664
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,239
the Dolls records in the first two solo records, The

665
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,039
Hell of a Band too. Man, it was a lot

666
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:10,400
of fun.

667
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,119
Speaker 3: But did you get to play Buster Poindex for Hot

668
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:14,920
Hot Hot as.

669
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,039
Speaker 2: He would call it his smash shit?

670
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? Was he not a fan of it?

671
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he's like me and you. He's

672
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,599
a musicologist, you know, he does a lot of Latin music,

673
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,480
and he found that song and he kind of put

674
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,199
his twist on it, and he think they would be

675
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:30,599
a hit. He thought would be a cool for the

676
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,559
record and it exploded. And I remember one time we

677
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:37,599
were walking on Broadway or somewhere in midtown. Somebody came

678
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:39,199
up and he's like, oh, David, I just heard your

679
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:41,320
stuff at a bar mitzfit the other day. And he goes,

680
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,440
He puts his hand on the guy's shoulder and goes,

681
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,079
I am so so sorry I ever recorded that. He goes,

682
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:50,239
I do apologize, you know, I mean, you know so,

683
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:52,719
I mean, yeah, it made him a household name, but

684
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,679
you know, he's iconic for the dolls and for the movies,

685
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,119
and yeah, I really missed the guy man, you know,

686
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:00,960
you know, I mean, if you listen to the tribute

687
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,199
that me and Meg Griffin did a couple of weeks ago,

688
00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:06,079
there's a lot of funny stories, a lot of personal

689
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:08,599
stories that we shared and played some of our favorite tunes.

690
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:10,960
But you know, I worked with the guy religiously for

691
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,960
twenty three years and it was great, you know, playing

692
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,639
in his band and recording songs and producing the show.

693
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,519
So that was one of the highlights, you know, one

694
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:21,559
of the absolutely one of the good guys. Man.

695
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, obviously I never had the opportunity to meet him,

696
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,079
but just one of those fucking iconic figures, you know

697
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:32,480
what I mean, no doubt, no doubt. Were you just

698
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,559
on tour with fucking Manitoba's Wild Kingdom?

699
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,519
Speaker 2: No, you see, that's a whole different entity. But Manitoba

700
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,719
used to be in The Dictators and I okay, okay,

701
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,760
so I'm not. I'm in the Dictators with the originally

702
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,199
founding members Andy Schernoff and Ross the Boss and Albert

703
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:52,920
Bischard from bloe Oyster Coult, the guy that took the

704
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,000
cow bell to a whole different level, with the richest

705
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:59,079
guy in the band. He's playing drums, so you know.

706
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,920
But no, it's a differ. I used to play with Manitoba,

707
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,320
playing a few of his bands, but obviously being in

708
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,320
the Dictators, that probably wouldn't work right now.

709
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: Oh got you guy, I could have swore that you were.

710
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:11,760
I don't know.

711
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: But the weird thing is my middle brother, my middle

712
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,159
brother went to kindergarten with Richard and Scott top ten Kepner,

713
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:21,239
And I mean I remember those guys from the neighborhood

714
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,519
because they're all like twelve thirteen years older than me.

715
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,199
So the first record I bought with my own money

716
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,480
was The Dictators Go go crazy at Alexander's and you know,

717
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:33,199
these are the guys from the neighborhood. It's pro wrestling,

718
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,280
it's punk rock, it's heavy metal, it's everything, just infectious songs.

719
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:40,320
So you know, I've been a fan for a million years.

720
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: Right. Have you ever seen Dick Manitoba, Rob Zombie, and

721
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,880
Al Jorgenson in the same room together? No, I think

722
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,079
they might be the same person.

723
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: Let's say that again, Manitoba, Rob Zombie, and I've met

724
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,960
them all, but I've never seen it all together.

725
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,159
Speaker 3: Yeah see see No I thought of that because my

726
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,800
first band was called Mattias Black and Love that first

727
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,239
the first song we ever played live was the Party

728
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,280
Starts Now.

729
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: Song.

730
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,599
Speaker 3: Oh it's fucking great. It's cheesy as fuck, but it's awesome.

731
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,920
That's what makes it fucking great. Stop that whining because

732
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,719
bad day. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

733
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: That's funny. We may start doing that one we do

734
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,360
really yeah, we do New York, New York from a

735
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,000
Wild Kingdom, and I think we do one other one

736
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:37,760
that's a great album. That was really like the fourth

737
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,599
Dictators record, even though it wasn't called the Dictators. But yeah,

738
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,800
I would you have any video of you guys doing

739
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,079
the party starts.

740
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: Now, Uh, there is, but I can't find it. It's

741
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,880
on a DVD and it's on a VHS. I have

742
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,199
the VHS. I do not have the DVD. I have

743
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,920
to get a pet put back onto DVD somehow. But uh,

744
00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:58,599
it's it was something.

745
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell you great song too.

746
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: Right right right? How did you get how did you

747
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,440
get lined up with the Dictators?

748
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've known them for years. I mean

749
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:11,679
Frankenstein three thousand played with them many times. As a

750
00:42:11,679 --> 00:42:14,000
matter of fact, we had an eight year tradition of

751
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:18,119
doing this one particular show every summer. And ironically, when

752
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:22,039
they had Manitoba's version of The Dictators, the bass player

753
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:25,000
Dean Rispler couldn't do one gig. He was in Seattle,

754
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,239
and Manitoba said, well, you know, and they wanted us

755
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,199
to do. They wanted them to do the gold Girl

756
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,719
Crazy record in its entirety around on New Year's Eve

757
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,079
or New Year's Eve eve, and Manitoba's like, listen, Keith

758
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:40,079
could do this and it was like a week's notice.

759
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:42,880
And I was playing bass and I learned it. We

760
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,159
crushed it. We made a shitload of money, the most

761
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,119
money ever made for one gig in my life, to

762
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:49,719
be honest with you, and we had a lot of fun.

763
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,039
And then when Andy wanted to get the band back

764
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:58,000
together with Ross, they and Albert. Albert's been a part

765
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:01,800
of the Dictator's history forever, Bloy Cult Dictators, They've always

766
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,239
had same management, you know, say you know, so they

767
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,199
knew that they wanted Albert. Albert wanted to be in

768
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,840
the Dictators, but Scott was with them and he was

769
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,639
involved in the first two singles they recorded, and they

770
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:15,280
realized shortly that afterwards that Scott wasn't going to be

771
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,639
able to do it because Scott, you know, had dementia

772
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:20,679
and it was becoming obvious that he couldn't, you know,

773
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,800
deal with the day to day stuff. So Albert had said,

774
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,599
what about Keith Roth, And Ross said, you know, that's

775
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:28,559
a pretty good idea. I think he could do it.

776
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:30,559
And Andy's like, I didn't even know he was a musician.

777
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:32,840
I knew him as a DJ. And I went down

778
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:36,920
one afternoon in Midtown and played with them at Smash

779
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,880
and we wound up having a good time playing all

780
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,400
the old songs. And afterwards Andy's like, you want to

781
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,880
do this? And I said yeah, and you know, we

782
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,719
made the first record in twenty three years. We've done

783
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,199
five tours already and we're having a good time. We're

784
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:51,360
getting We're going to be on the Little Stevens Underground

785
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,400
Garage Cruise next month too, So.

786
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, fuck yeah, dude, that's great. How long

787
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,440
have you been in radio? Then?

788
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,079
Speaker 2: Radio?

789
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: Okay?

790
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,199
Speaker 2: But actually I did know Andy as a musician way

791
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:06,719
before I did radio. I mean, listen to radio is something.

792
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:10,000
If you told me I started in October of ninety eight,

793
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,840
if you told me in September of ninety eight I'd

794
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,679
do radio, I'd be laughing at you. But I was

795
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,079
in a band in the nineties and this girl, Amy

796
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:19,639
came out and did press on my band. We had

797
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:22,159
a record coming out, and she was really cool. She

798
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,920
was a publicist for Charlie wattson Ronnie Wood through Continue

799
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,559
them Wow, and we hit it off really good. And

800
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,599
then she moved down to Jersey where I was living

801
00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:33,280
in Lawn Branch, and they started a radio station there

802
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,639
called the Rat, which is still there ninety five nine.

803
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,400
And she said, you know, I talked to the general

804
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,480
manager and I proposed a show, and I think you'd

805
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:42,320
be a good co host. And I'm like, and I

806
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,440
heard the rat and they're a great station, but I'm like,

807
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,440
I can't see myself. Hey, Memorial Day weekend, van halen

808
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,119
Port coming up. I'm like no. She's like no, we

809
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,159
could do our own show man and play whatever we

810
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:55,159
want as long as there's no cursing and between the

811
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:59,400
people we know. So I went to the meeting. My

812
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,639
hair was like up in the air, like a ubangy.

813
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,079
My daughter was like six months old. I dropped on

814
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:07,000
this big table. We handed a playlist and Dan's like,

815
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:09,239
I'm crazy enough to say, let's give this a shot.

816
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,039
And we started the show and within the first two

817
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,880
months we had Joey Ramone coming down and you know,

818
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:19,000
Johansson and John Paul Jones and it was sick man

819
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:21,079
the parties that used to it was, And sadly, I

820
00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,320
don't think radio is ever going to be like that again.

821
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,519
But that's how I got in the radio. And then

822
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:27,519
a couple of years into it, I get a call,

823
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:30,079
would you want to do a punk show on Sirius

824
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:33,519
because it wasn't serious XM at that point satellite radio,

825
00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:35,599
and I'm thinking, well, what is satellite radios? I like,

826
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:37,840
Wayne's World like I never I had no idea what

827
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,159
it was, and but the bread was worth it to

828
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:42,760
come into the city. I'm always there. And when I

829
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,960
walked through those glass doors in two thousand and two

830
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,360
and I saw, you know, I saw Pat Saint John

831
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,119
and Meg Griffin and Carol Miller like this is radio royalty.

832
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,800
I educated myself pretty quickly. So that's how I got

833
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,599
in the radio. Music led me to.

834
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:01,079
Speaker 3: Radio, dude. But I have the same I'm pretty much

835
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:03,480
the same story, except I came up with my show

836
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,039
and they put me on Sunday Mornings under the covers

837
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:09,800
with Izzy Presley, just playing fucking cover music, you know,

838
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,719
on a fucking rock station. And I did that show

839
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,519
until I left Minnesota. And during while I was doing

840
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:19,519
that show, I ended up being the afternoon drive guy,

841
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:23,400
you know, because I was there, the guy.

842
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: I bet your ratings were great?

843
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:31,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, yeah, And was I good? No, I've

844
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:32,239
gotten a lot better though.

845
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:34,599
Speaker 2: I think you're great, man. And I'm not saying that

846
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:36,440
because you know, we're doing the show together and I'm

847
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,239
supposed to smooth. But I've known you now a while.

848
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,000
It's definitely more than a minute. We've got some history there,

849
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:43,599
but you know, you're usually entertaining. You take a lot

850
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:46,320
of pride and respect and everything you do and you

851
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,679
give it and it's always fun. And when you came

852
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,119
out and did that, it wasn't this cruise. The other

853
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:53,719
cruise you did the Elvis thing. I'm trying to remember

854
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,760
what was it, Viva Las Vegas.

855
00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 3: Or what karaoke?

856
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: No, No, the cruisers jam are the oh the.

857
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 3: Cruiser jam yoh? Yeah, yeah, yeah we did. Uh we

858
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,199
opened up with c c ryder cer yep.

859
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: And I was one of the highlights of that cruise

860
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:13,159
for me, man, because you were you were awesome.

861
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: You know, well did you You didn't see the whole

862
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:15,960
show though.

863
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: Well, I had probably an event to due, but I

864
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,880
caught you doing that, and I think I did Aerosmith

865
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,119
with somebody after that, and.

866
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: Then right, that's right.

867
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:25,199
Speaker 2: I caught a couple of things. Those are fun though,

868
00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:28,199
because you get Brian Foreside and you know, chow fun

869
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,920
and everybody to jam and stuff. I didn't Hopefully you'll

870
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,360
consider me next year. I didn't get to do it.

871
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: You're always fucking well, dude. We had Michael Wilton this year.

872
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what did he do?

873
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: Walk? Because it was the rip jam. So we did

874
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,239
fucking Pantera, you know, which it was cool, you know,

875
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,159
because like, this is people, this is the reason I

876
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,320
do it. The guy that played drums and they don't

877
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,800
know who the the artist is until they get on

878
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,159
stage or they're getting ready to get on stage. And

879
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:58,760
when he found out it was fucking Michael Wilton. He's like,

880
00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:01,960
the queen strikes my fucking favorite band and I get

881
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,159
to play with her. That's what it's all about. Man,

882
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,639
A lifetime and memories in fucking five minutes right there

883
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,280
right there. But the year that we did the Elvis,

884
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,079
So we did Elvis and then we went into Eastbound

885
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:14,480
and Down.

886
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: Yes, that was that was That was amazing. You know.

887
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,599
I came home and I listened to my Smoking the

888
00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:23,320
Bandit soundtrack after that. That was fucking awesome.

889
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:25,519
Speaker 3: Did you know? Did you know what we closed with?

890
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: I probably wasn't there at that point.

891
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 3: No, you weren't there. Jenna from Paradise Kitty and myself

892
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:37,679
did fucking Paradise by the dashboard light, the full fucking

893
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:42,159
argument in the middle, the fucking whole nine yards, and

894
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:45,639
it was, as you know, it's unrehearsed. Yeah, yeah, fuck

895
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:48,480
it let's go. Man, know your part, so let's fucking roll.

896
00:48:48,519 --> 00:48:50,599
And we did it. Man, we pulled it off.

897
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:52,559
Speaker 2: Is that on YouTube?

898
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: I have video of it? Have you got to send

899
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:55,039
me that?

900
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like to see that. Also, mean you get

901
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,440
to do every year the charity thing for that James

902
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,800
Dio stand up and shout can fun And this year

903
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,159
we did it for the LA Uh you know people

904
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:08,480
that you know suffered the LA fires and stuff. We

905
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:10,599
raised a ton of money every year. That's one Hopeful

906
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:14,840
records too. We broke the record men. Is he those auctioneers? Man?

907
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,559
But we're raising money for great causes, which is another

908
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:19,599
highlight on that thing, which is super cool.

909
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And Keith, Before I let you go, we do

910
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,440
have to talk about your new podcast called Rockstrap with

911
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,599
our mutual close personal friend Don Jamison. When when did

912
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:35,239
when when did this idea come up? Because basically you

913
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,920
have musicians on, but you talk about sports, right.

914
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: And uh and and sports guys talk about music. I mean,

915
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,480
it's listen, It's an idea that I had twenty years ago.

916
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:48,639
Longer than that, there's even a pilot that we made

917
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:52,800
with myself, Dave the Snake Zabo from skid Row black

918
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,199
Jack McDowell the picture, you know, Jack McDowell.

919
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did a pilot.

920
00:49:57,159 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 2: Nobody picked it up or was just just I didn't

921
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,559
have the energy to really shop it. And then I

922
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:04,519
was talking to Don about it, and Don's like, well,

923
00:50:04,519 --> 00:50:07,119
you know, it's funny that metal show. We're thinking about

924
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:10,119
doing that sports show. Maybe we should revise it. We

925
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:12,000
kind of talked about it, We met with some people

926
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:14,920
throughout the years, and then you know, in early twenty

927
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,159
four Pantheon said that they were down to do it,

928
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,719
and we started doing it in July, so it's almost

929
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,960
a year. We probably did close to forty episodes, and

930
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:24,920
we've had everybody on there, from Jeremy Ronick to the

931
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,840
Dandy Warholes to guys from bon Jovi, and it's you

932
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,599
would be great on there too, because.

933
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 3: I would love it, man, I would love it because.

934
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 2: You know, man, as a music guy, which you are,

935
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,880
you know you talk to your buddies, Man, what do

936
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,840
you talk to you know, your music friends about sports?

937
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,079
You know, you know, you being from Minnesota, the Twins,

938
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,360
you know you're talking the Vikes or whatever teams you're into.

939
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,360
And that's the rule. If you're a sports guy, you

940
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,239
talk music and if you're a music guy. We had

941
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,480
Jeremy ronic on, you know, Jeremy Ronick.

942
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: Of course, of course the way he fires up the.

943
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: Team by putting on Iron Maiden and Zeppelin and you know,

944
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,800
hearing it from this hockey legend. And then he was

945
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,400
just sing the NHL Hall of Fame about not being in,

946
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,239
and literally the day after we recorded the episode, he

947
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,360
got in. So we edited nice. We edited for Jeremy.

948
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,920
But maybe we'll sell unedited editions soon. But yeah, I

949
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,400
mean it was fun. So me and Donn are having

950
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,719
a good time doing it. Yeah.

951
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: I love sports. I was a sports writer for a

952
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,280
few years, so I was in the press box. I

953
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,679
wasn't just one of these guys fucking at home blogging.

954
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:25,440
I was in the press box. I was on the field,

955
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,920
you know, And I missed that. I really fucking miss that,

956
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:31,920
you know, being in the locker rooms after the games.

957
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:38,199
And I was once in the Twins locker room with

958
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:41,760
the clubhouse as they call it in baseball. It was

959
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,360
after game one sixty three they played that extra game

960
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,559
against Detroit to see what I remember the offs because

961
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:50,719
they went to New York and got their asses handed

962
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:56,159
to them. You know next day, but being in a

963
00:51:56,199 --> 00:52:01,039
locker room during a celebration like that is like nothing

964
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:03,719
you've ever been around before in your life. I'm talking

965
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,960
to Mike redman alson, I get this fucking beer poured

966
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,039
over my head. I turn around with Joe Nathan. You know,

967
00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:14,000
I thought you remember Ron Komer of course, Well yeah, yeah,

968
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:17,239
yeah he was. He used to do a color commentary

969
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,239
on the radio for the Twins, right and sometimes on

970
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,079
TV I see him standing by the door, ringing beer

971
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,400
out of his tie into his mouth, the fucking most

972
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,280
glorious thing ever. So yeah, I have those stories. I

973
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,360
have those fucking memories.

974
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: Man. I know we're gonna have to get you on

975
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:37,000
for sure. I'm gonna make a point of it. Also,

976
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,519
we're talking to each other on Opening Day, which is amazing.

977
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,400
Right it's Opening day right now. I don't know when

978
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,639
people are gonna see this, but you know, my Yankees

979
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:47,719
are probably in the fourth inning right now. The Twins

980
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,880
are probably just getting the close to first pitch at

981
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:50,280
this point.

982
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should be. They should be in the first

983
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,679
ending about now. Because we always know Opening Day, the

984
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,760
opening ceremonies used to take about twenty minutes, twenty five minutes,

985
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,440
so it's one thirty five. Should be going right about now.

986
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: The joyous thing about Opening Day is every team's undefeated,

987
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,639
every team's in first place, and you know, the Yankees,

988
00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:10,559
they're picking us to win eighty games, maybe getting in

989
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:13,679
as a last wild card. I love that when there's

990
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:15,760
no pressure on them and all these you know, in

991
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,920
my neck of the woods, it's all Yankee, you're Met fans.

992
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,639
And what I'm hating is fellow Yankee fans jumping on

993
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:23,719
this Mets fan wagon and I'm like, you can't come back.

994
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,920
Remember that you've made the list. You're on the list.

995
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,039
Now you're and we've got you, and now you have

996
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:31,719
to got I'm sorry.

997
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:33,199
Speaker 3: No, I was just saying what I've noticed about New

998
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,760
York fans. It's like you're either you're either Yankees giants

999
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,519
or your Mets Jets.

1000
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: I'm Yankees Jets.

1001
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're one of the few. You're one of

1002
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,440
the few, and like Trunk is Mets Giants, right, But

1003
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,280
for the most part, that seems to be the algorithm.

1004
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, the Yankees and the Giants played

1005
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,639
at Yankee Stadium, and the Jets and the Mets played

1006
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:00,239
at Chase Stadium, so they kind of came in, came

1007
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,280
as a package, you know. And I don't know if

1008
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,559
you're in a basketball but I believe the blue and orange.

1009
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:06,960
I am a diehard New York Knicks fan. And uh,

1010
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:09,320
that trade that we made with Minnesota, you know, getting

1011
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,760
call Anthony Towns and you guys got Randall and de Vincenzo.

1012
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,960
I mean, we'll see what shakes out, you know. I'd

1013
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,039
love to get I missed Dante though not at the

1014
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:19,760
playoffser coming. I wish he was on the Knicks right now.

1015
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a basketball guy until I covered it,

1016
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:28,760
really and when you see timbrels are terrible. And it

1017
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,800
was the last game of the season. There was the rookie.

1018
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,840
One of the rookies was walking around getting his shoe

1019
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,800
signed by everybody on the team because it's his rookie season,

1020
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,559
right right, went up to Marcus Blunt. Marcus Blunt looked him,

1021
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:44,519
went and walked away, like there it is. There's the NBA.

1022
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,719
That's basketball right there. That's how it is. What year

1023
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,960
was that, Oh, god, that was pra it was it

1024
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,400
was after the Garnet trade. Okay, there was some thin years.

1025
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 2: Well there are some bad guys in all sports.

1026
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 3: You know, no, I get it. But it's like basketball

1027
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,440
is all about the name on the back and not

1028
00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:08,119
about the crest on the front. And that's why I

1029
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:10,840
love hockey. It's all about the team, you know, it's

1030
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,840
all about fucking well. I can barely walk, but you

1031
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,039
just fucked up, my dude. I'm gonna fuck you up

1032
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:17,519
now too.

1033
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,679
Speaker 2: You know that is the beauty of hockey. I mean,

1034
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,760
and I listen, I think they're the most physical, physically

1035
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,800
fit out of all I mean, you know, you know

1036
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,360
what it's like to skate. You know, you grew up

1037
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,280
in Minnesota, so I mean, you know, doing some of

1038
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,920
those shifts and the play. I mean, I guess, well,

1039
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,480
who is your allegiance to now you're in Vegas now right?

1040
00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Fuck the fuck the Golden Knights.

1041
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you know how that upsets me. They come

1042
00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:41,159
in the first year, they go to the finals and

1043
00:55:41,199 --> 00:55:43,320
they win a cup. I'm a Ranger fan. I saw

1044
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,039
one in my lifetime. Thank god. My dad got to

1045
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:48,119
see ninety four because he never thought he'd see that,

1046
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,800
which he did, but he did. He made he got it.

1047
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,920
He got he got that.

1048
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 3: I tell you what it drives me fucking crazy. They

1049
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,519
come in, they go to the final the first year,

1050
00:55:57,159 --> 00:55:59,960
thankfully lost, you know, but they still want a cop,

1051
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:04,559
you know in their sixth season. We had as Minnesota

1052
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:07,800
sports fans, we had the north Stars go in eighty

1053
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,719
one and ninety one lost both Islanders, Penguins, fuck Mario

1054
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,360
mu God damn it still pissed off. Then we lost

1055
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:23,159
our fucking team went to one final or one conference

1056
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:26,719
final with the Wild and nothing ever since. And these

1057
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,920
fucking cocksuckers come in and go to the final the

1058
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,519
first year. Fuck you fuck you.

1059
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:33,639
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad to say that you didn't jump on

1060
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:36,719
the bandwagon because that's probably the fuck no, And that's

1061
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,400
probably the team you have the most access to.

1062
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:41,039
Speaker 3: Right Oh, I could, I could walk to the arena.

1063
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, I'm a diehard Raiders fan.

1064
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,320
I love the Raid. My whole family was Oakland Raiders fans.

1065
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,559
Oh wow, you know the Stabler Belitna cough era. Yeah,

1066
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:51,719
I mean, and I love the Raiders when they won

1067
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,559
in seventy six against the Vikings, like I love the

1068
00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:58,559
Vikings like football is the only sport. Listen, It's Yankees,

1069
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:01,280
It's Nicks. It's Rangers. And I had an uncle that

1070
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,559
got me into the Islanders because he lived in Long Island,

1071
00:57:03,679 --> 00:57:06,079
took me. I met Bobby Nistrom and Bossy. I came

1072
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,719
home to DA I said, I think I like the Islanders.

1073
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,960
He said, get the fuck out of my house. Get out.

1074
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:15,119
I was eight years old. Get out, get out. But

1075
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:17,840
I you know, I meet these guys, they're cool, they

1076
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,320
win cups. But all right, so but I am a Ranger.

1077
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,800
But football it's Jets, and it's the Vikes, and it's

1078
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:26,320
the Raiders, and I will root for the Giants and

1079
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,760
I you know, all of them. But I mean with

1080
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,480
that Raiders team in seventy six, you know, with Stabler,

1081
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:34,199
and they would pluck it coming, you know, as he was,

1082
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,719
you know, written off, as he's done and comes back.

1083
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,280
But when they moved to Vegas, I'm trying to find

1084
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,719
the love for them in Vegas. I'm trying to find it.

1085
00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:44,280
I haven't found it yet.

1086
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: I haven't even been to the stadium. I drive by

1087
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,159
it every day, I mean, like literally try it because

1088
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:52,880
it's right across the fucking highway from me. But I

1089
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,159
don't know. Even when the Vikings were here, I didn't

1090
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:57,920
go to the game. I'd rather watch it. Yeah, even

1091
00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:00,719
I got I got spoiled by press box.

1092
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:03,639
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I could see that. You get here, Uh,

1093
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,079
I hear that from what I heard from a really

1094
00:58:06,119 --> 00:58:09,320
good source, though, a really good source, and he told

1095
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,000
me that the Jets were going to get Rogers. The

1096
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:14,440
same source told me that the Vikings are going to

1097
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,159
get Rogers.

1098
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 3: Well, that door is not closed, and I'm gonna go

1099
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:21,519
on record right now saying I'd be okay with it. Yeah,

1100
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:23,880
because the guy can still throw. He just was on

1101
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,880
a terrible fucking team and he's a head case. And

1102
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:27,840
I always say.

1103
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: You saw the last last five games of the season

1104
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:33,280
where they became respectable, and he almost knew if they

1105
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,119
had another eight games they probably would have made the playoffs.

1106
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:38,280
He looked amazing. I think he's got a good year

1107
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,079
left in the tank, and on Minnesota that could smell

1108
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:43,159
their first super Bowl to the first.

1109
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: I always say, because we all know that, you know,

1110
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:49,840
the Vikings got farv after going to the Jets for

1111
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:55,679
one year and as we called him, cheesus and you

1112
00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:00,480
bet you oh for sure. But when when when Rogers

1113
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:03,440
went to the Jets, I'm like, oh, it's gonna happen

1114
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,559
because he has jeesus envy. He because he's not Brett

1115
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:09,920
Farv and he will never be Brett Farav. He has

1116
00:59:10,039 --> 00:59:12,159
cheesus envy. So he wants to go to Minnesota to

1117
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:15,400
win a Super Bowl because Brett Farv could not. That's

1118
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,559
the only reason he wants to go to Minnesota. I

1119
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:18,079
know it.

1120
00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: But you'd be okay with that, right if they did

1121
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,000
win a Super Bowl, you'd be all right with that.

1122
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,239
Speaker 3: It would be tainted by a packer.

1123
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that, But so you would have felt

1124
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,320
the same way if Farv would have won you the

1125
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,400
Super Bowl. Yeah.

1126
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,119
Speaker 3: Farm is so endearing though, There's just so he's got

1127
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:40,519
an aura about him. It's just so when he came

1128
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,840
he was the most hated player in the league to us.

1129
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,519
But when he came to Minnesota, like they it was

1130
00:59:47,679 --> 00:59:50,039
on the new every news channel had their choppers in

1131
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:55,639
the sky following the fucking Vans from the airport to

1132
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,679
the performance center. It was just it was like it

1133
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:02,360
was like the fucking president was in town and everybody

1134
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:04,639
just fell in love with him instantly because he just

1135
01:00:04,679 --> 01:00:07,360
had this aura. But I got to cover one game

1136
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,639
when he was there, and being in that he didn't

1137
01:00:11,639 --> 01:00:13,679
do his He always did the press conference, he didn't

1138
01:00:13,719 --> 01:00:16,199
do the locker room thing, right, and just being in

1139
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:21,320
that press conference, there's Jesus and he's he just had

1140
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,639
this aura that sucked you in. It was just grit,

1141
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:26,159
you know.

1142
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean you kind of knew that

1143
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:31,960
was the plan, right, Like the deal was like, all right,

1144
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,599
you go to the Jets for a year, because there's

1145
01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:35,480
no way Green Bay is going to trade with Minett

1146
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:38,480
with with the Vikings, so you know, and the Jets

1147
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,079
were at a point where, like, you know, they could

1148
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:42,039
win the Super Bowl. They were right on the custom

1149
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:43,639
of that maybe he could take him over the time.

1150
01:00:43,679 --> 01:00:45,360
They knew it was a one year deal. And he

1151
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,840
played great for him, but then he messed up his shoulder. Yeah,

1152
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,280
and I think they were like ten and one at

1153
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,320
that point, and he played great feet. I mean, I

1154
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,400
remember watching that playoff game with disgust when they lost it.

1155
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,760
And but you know, as a Jet fan, and thank

1156
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,360
god I'm a Yankee fan because I saw a lot

1157
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,719
of titles, but as a Jet fan, they're gonna win

1158
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,320
the Super Bowl. Five plays the guy tears his a achilles, Yeah,

1159
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,039
and there you go. The Curse of the Jets. So

1160
01:01:07,679 --> 01:01:10,519
but I think he's built right now. If you got him,

1161
01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:11,679
you'd have a great year out of him.

1162
01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: And so I agree, I agree, I agree. So all right,

1163
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,960
let's wrap this up. I have to go try to

1164
01:01:17,039 --> 01:01:20,079
make some money. Let me hear the outro music and

1165
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,360
so maybe it'll fucking be on here, maybe it won't.

1166
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,679
Maybe I'll have to put it in. I don't know anyways.

1167
01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:30,079
Keith Rock The Dictators Serious exam Ozzie's Gonyard and hair

1168
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:35,159
Nation and his brand new album available right now. Hold on,

1169
01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:40,599
I'm digging it up. Calm the law of diminished returns.

1170
01:01:41,199 --> 01:01:41,639
Speaker 2: There you go.

1171
01:01:42,679 --> 01:01:46,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, he everywhere everywhere you can get fucking find it online,

1172
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,760
Google him, hit him up on the socials. He'll tell

1173
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:49,400
you how to get it.

1174
01:01:49,679 --> 01:01:53,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Deco Entertainment, dot Com, talk Shop, Live, Amazon,

1175
01:01:53,079 --> 01:01:55,719
wherever you get your records. The vinyl comes out April

1176
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,239
twenty fifth, And I appreciate you talking it up.

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01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 3: Is you know what it means a lot of time, dude,

1178
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,159
I appreciate it. I love just shooting the shit with you.

1179
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:07,000
Thank you to Nicky Viscious and Michelle Danielle trans Porn

1180
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:11,960
Stars and this edition of Dating Tips with Porn Stars.

1181
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,440
I will hopefully have a show for you guys next week.

1182
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,320
I leave on the second for the Cruise of the

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01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,800
Edge and watch people really geek out about music, because

1184
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,360
they really geek out about music, and God bless them.

1185
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,280
Flora Keith Roth hit him up and check him out

1186
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,000
a series exam Hair Nation, Ozzie's Born Yard, and by

1187
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:32,679
the goddamn record, my name is Izzie Presley. This has

1188
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:36,840
been another fucking podcast. And don't forget what I lack

1189
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,840
and talent I make up for in the cock