Speaker 1: It's daily beloved. We are gathered here today to get
through this thing called but surely you can't be serious podcast.
We are so excited today we are going to do
two gigantic projects from nineteen eighty four. We are going
to look at Princess Purple Rain movie versus the Footloose movie.
Speaker 2: And then we're gonna look at the Footloose soundtrack and
the Purple Rain Altum.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little bit tricky because we're going
to try and stay distinct between all the projects.
Speaker 2: In other words, we're gonna want to talk about the
music really really bad. We're talking about the movies, but
we are going to try our best to wait until
it's album time to talk about the music. But since
these movies are both so music centric, it's gonna be hard.
It's gonna be hard, right, Okay.
Speaker 1: Our executive producer today is one of my best friends
in the entire world, mister Chris Bauer.
Speaker 2: Chris Bauer, thank you so much for subscribing through Patreon.
We appreciate you and your wonderful idea is He's given
us some stuff that I'm like, oh, we need to
try to do that.
Speaker 1: Still, the funniest guy I've ever met in my entire life.
We used to call him Bomber in high school.
Speaker 2: So thank you, Bomber, executive producer for the show, Bomber Bomber,
Thanks buddy. So remember that this is the Summer of
nineteen eighty four series, and as a reminder, these two
albums were among the only five albums of the year
to be a number one spot. Like we had, Thriller
got knocked out of its place by Footloose the soundtrack,
and then along came Huey Lewis and knocked it out,
which we've covered just recently, which was then knocked out
by Bruce Springsteen born in the USA, we compared to
Huey Lewis, and then of course Bruce Springsteen was ultimately
knocked out by Purple Rain. Now I've already done it,
I've already started talking albums. But it's important to know
that these albums wouldn't be the same without the movies.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. And before we go too far down the road, yeah,
you mentioned all the number one albums of nineteen eighty four. Yes,
Proper Rain took over in August and Reign Supreme through
the end of the year. Yes, do you know the
album that knocked it out of its number one spot? No?
What was it? It was born in the USA by
Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 2: Oh he made it comeback nice. Well, let's get into
the movie, shall we Yes?
Speaker 1: Kick off your Sunday shoes and.
Speaker 2: Here we go. You could fly if you'd only cut loose.
Speaker 1: Let's go footloose.
Speaker 2: Okay, So our story on Footloose starts back in the
nineteenth century.
Speaker 1: I know, right, this is amazing.
Speaker 2: So we have a unique circumstance. Here we are guys
who are recording from Oklahoma and Elmore City was the
inspiration for this movie Footloose.
Speaker 1: Elmore City, Oklahoma is a small town. My son's high
school football team has played Elmore City.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when I was when I first started in
the DA's office, Elmore City is in Garvin County, which
is where I was, so I was very familiar with
Elmore City. It was one of the cities that I
had and I didn't know until pretty far on in
my career that, oh hey, Elmore City is the inspiration
for the movie. Footloose. Had a girl who worked in
the office, Chryl god Rest her soul. She was from
Elmore City. And then another guy that I've brought up
several times who's been my friend for years now, mister
Arlin Bullard, also grew up in Elmore City.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Okay. So Elmore City was founded back in eighteen ninety eight,
and that is when they put the law into effect
that there was no public dancing allowed in the city.
It was religious based. You'd still hear talk back in
the seventies of you know, if this is the Bible belt,
Elmore City is the buckle, sure, right. And so in
the late seventies, some high schoolers like who they were
freshmen at the time, they started saying, hey, you know,
we don't want to just have a banquet, We want
to have a prom. But you couldn't have a prom
because public dancing was outlawed, right right. And so what
they did was they did like a lawyer would do,
and they worked their way around the law. It was
this moment in the city council that there was some
magic that was worked. But I can tell you this.
The trick was the wording of the law said you
couldn't have public dancing. So what they said was, well,
how about we have a private dance and the only
way that they could do that was to go through
the school. So the city council said, hey, if it's private,
it's not against the law. Do what you want to do. So,
unlike the movie where they had to go and fight
the city council on this, what they had to do
in real Elmore City was they had to fight the
school board. The school board did not want to have
a private dance. The religious feelings were still strong in
the seventies and dancing could lead to you know, sex
is lusty desires, absolutely right. So there were a couple
of people, Mary Temple Lee whose dad was actually on
the school board, and a guy named Leonard Coffee who
still works down at the Rural Electric and Lindsay, which
is a town near Elmore City. And another guy named
Rex Kennedy. And the character Wren is a combination of
Rex and Leonard. It's those two guys. That's fantastic, right,
And then Mary Temple was kind of because her dad
was on the school board, She's kind of that inspiration
for the aerial character.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait, wait wait ahead. Rex and Leonard
became Wren. Yes, because I was thinking to myself, I'm
watching Footlosers. So I'm like, Wren, cool name. I never
met any one in my life name.
Speaker 2: Wren other than the partner of Stempy.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's fantastic. Okay, Rex and Leonard keep going Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is the information that I got from Arlen.
All Right, So they actually started petitioning the school board
a couple of years, like in like nineteen seventy eight,
when they were freshmen. The way it works is the
juniors were the ones that would host the prom for
the seniors, but we wanted to be in by the
time we are seniors. And so this is the story
that Arln told me. His dad is a member of
the school board. It's a five person school board.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so his dad is a member of the
school board. And he says the first year that they
came and petitioned, it was like unanimous, No, you cannot
have a dance. They were not deterred. Next year they
came back, okay, and it was like okay. One guy
finally was like, okay, you know what, I don't care.
They can have it, right. But the way it works
is a five person board and the like the head,
the guy who is Mary Temple's father. He doesn't vote
unless he has to be there for a tiebreak. And
so second year three to one, Yeah, no dance that year.
Third year comes along and another guy falls off and says,
you know what, I'm going to say that it's okay
that they have a dance. And so Arlen has this
wonderful story of his dad being one of the only
two holdouts to say, heck no, I don't want to
let him go dance. So they have a two to
two matchup, right to have voted yes let him dance
to have voted no. And who is the tiebreaker. It's
Mary Temple's father, Raymond Temple Lee, and he says, let
him dance.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a boy. That's all right, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2: So there's a great news story that came out in
nineteen eighty and that spawned so much interest that there
ended up being a People magazine article. It was in
se different magazines just this, Hey, this, you know, pick
Town finally said let the kids dance, and so it
made a lot of national news and that is what
inspired our dear friend, mister mister Dean Pitchford to write
a movie.
Speaker 1: That is great story great story.
Speaker 2: So tell me about Dean Pittford.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so here's what I know about Dean Pittford.
Dean Pittford is a guy who was born in Hawaii.
You know, he was an actor, a singer, dancer. In
nineteen seventy one, he was cast in a play called
Godspell in New York City.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And so he goes to New York City and he
starts to kind of rise in the rinks right there.
Speaker 2: Yep. He actually got caught cast by Bob Fosse, who
we've talked about before.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was cast as Pippen in the Broadway
production of Pippen by Bob Fosse.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Well this is the guy. He's been in
tons of commercials, right, like mainstream commercials, yeah, like Doctor
Pepper and emin M's and like laized potato chips McDonald's. Okay,
So he was kind of the upcoming star, right.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he was in the singing McDonald's commercial
with John.
Speaker 1: Amos, that would be fantastic.
Speaker 2: Mop in a bucket baby.
Speaker 1: So he starts working with other songwriters and he gets
invited to help sort of write these songs for this movie.
Called Fame.
Speaker 2: I'm on a lift.
Speaker 1: That's his. So he writes three songs. He he and
this other guy whose name I didn't write now, Michael guy.
Speaker 2: His name is Michael Gore.
Speaker 1: Okay, So he and Michael Gore they collaborate on three
songs for the movie Fame Now. One of them is
called red Light, one of them is I Sing the
Body Electric, and one of them is Fame, the song
that everyone knows from Irene care Let's do it right here.
Speaker 2: That song won him a gram it won him a Oscar,
and it won him a Golden Globe. So not bad. Yeah,
So he gets together with a guy named Kenny Loggins
and another guy named Steve Perry.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait wait, Kenny Loggins and Steve Perry.
Speaker 2: Yes together again for the first time. Not Logins and Mestina,
just Kenny by himself and not Journey, but Steve Perry
by himself, and they write a song called Don't Fight It,
which ends up being a top twenty hit, also Grammy nominated,
and he co wrote the theme song for Solid Gold.
Speaker 1: Solid Gold was the TV show I used to watch.
Oh yeah, I mean it's kind of like a b
substitute for MTV. You know right, hey, you know he
wrote a song for Melissa Manchester. People have kind of
forgotten this one over. It's kind of been buried in
the course of time, huh. But it was a big
hitting's one I know very well. It's called you should
hear how she talks about me? Yeah, for me, that's
a little kid, top down turned up song.
Speaker 2: Awesome. So he reads the story about Elmore City, Oklahoma
and the People magazine. He goes down and he talks
to some of the folks down there and gets this
idea for a script. And so what Arlen told me
is that he believes that the character of Preacher was
inspired by this guy named Larry Kern. And Arlan said,
Larry was just the nicest guy in the world, Like
he wanted to take care of everybody, was looking out
for everybody. Just the best guy. But he was somebody
who was preaching against dancing from the pulpit, right like
that every preacher in town was at that point. And
he said, he said that his wife was even nicer
than he was, like she would just love on every
human being like it was her own child. They had
this kid. It was kind of close to Arlen's age.
That had a pig in the in the four age competition,
and they would they called the pig Chip because they
would feed Chip chocolate chip cookies. And Chip did fantastic
in the four age and then poor missus Larry Kern
cried her eyes out when the competition was over and
Chip became picking.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, hey, listen, one thing we want to
be real clear and real gentle about. These are salt
of the earth people. I think the movie does a
really good job of respectfully talking about these are solid
people with morals, not against people that don't have morals.
But these are two people with differing philosophies. Yeah, but
they're both good people. You know, they're all good people.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, let's I mean to be frank. When
I watched this movie when I was a kid, I
despised thought, I despised the reverend leader. I did not
like John Lythgow's character as a grown man, and I'm
not you know, I certainly don't mind dancing, but as
a grown man watching this, I'm like, he actually was
really trying to do what he thought was best for
these people. He wasn't like, he wasn't this mustache twirling villain.
He was somebody who was trying to do what was
right and was moved by a very impactful moment in
his life. So we can get into that here in
a little bit. But it's important to note that, yes,
this story was based on real people, and those real
people were not bad people.
Speaker 1: No, No, absolutely not. So.
Speaker 2: Pitchford writes the screenplay for the movie that will become Footloose.
He collaborates on nine songs with Kenny Loggins, Eric Carmon,
Jim Steinman, Sammy Hagar.
Speaker 1: We have talked about nearly all of these guys.
Speaker 2: I believe we have talked about every single one of them. Yes,
maybe not Eric Carmon, but yeah.
Speaker 1: One of these days when we talk about dirty dancing,
his name's gonna come up, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's an interesting point, you know. We when we
originally talked about doing Footloose, we talked about comparing it
to dirty Dancing because it's kind of the guy girl
perspective on these two, you know, forbidden dance movies. But
I really like the way that we fell out and
landed on this versus purple ring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: So he writes the script and the film lands with
film director herb Ross. Now we talked about the fact
that Dean Pitchford was a song and dance man. I
mean he was singing and dancing and acting. Herb Ross
also started off as a dancer turned choreographer turned Broadway
director turned film directory. He directed a bunch of Neil
Simon stuff Iota be in Pictures. He directed Pennies from
Heaven had Steve Martin in it. He directed Max Dugan Returns,
which we talked about.
Speaker 1: Matthew brodricks first movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then he has his first really huge hit
with Footloose.
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the deal with Herbert Ross. So he's
directed Footloose. He's in charge, and he's getting it ready,
and he's picking locations and he's involved in the casting
and everything's happening. Well, he gets a call from Warren Batty,
and Warren Batty says, hey, I like what you've done.
Why don't you come and direct my movie called Mermaid?
So he leaves Buttloose. When Herbert Ross gets to the
set of Mermaid, he realizes that he's not really wanted
to be the director. Warren Batty wants to direct the movie, okay,
and so it's one of those where there's too many
chiefs and you know, and he realizes that, man, this
is not good. And in the meantime, Footloose hires a
guy named Michael Semino. And when he comes on board,
this is the guy who directed the Deer Hunter in
Heaven's Gate. So, but he takes over, he starts to
try to take it down a darker path, and he
wants to change it all up, rewrite the entire script.
And so they said, listen, this is not working out,
so they let him go. Well, in the meantime, Herbert
Ross leaves Mermaid Mermaid, not the Little Mermaid Mermaid right,
different area, different area. Good, that's funny. So he calls
being pitch for and he says, listen, I want to
come back, and they're like, come on back.
Speaker 2: Good timing. We just fire the other guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Herbert Ross comes back and takes over Footless. Right,
let's flip over to the inspiration and the beginnings of
Purple Rang.
Speaker 2: Okay, now, if you haven't caught our Sign of the
Times episode, we do some history on Prince. Yeah, we're
not going to go revisit that. If you want to
hear it, go listen to that episode. It's pretty darn good,
if I do say so myself. But I got to
dive a little bit deeper. I read a couple of
books on Prince. One called The Beautiful Ones, which I
encourage everybody to take out, a guy who basically had
no qualification to write a book that Prince handpicked to
write a book. Unfortunately he picked him about three months
before he passed away tragically. So that's an interesting one.
It's called The Beautiful Ones. And then a book called
What's Crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I read Let's Go Crazy. It's written by a
guy named Elan Light. Yeah, and lots of inside information,
lots of tidbits. If you're a Prince fan, you definitely
want to pick this one up.
Speaker 2: So in our old episode on Sign of the Times,
I talked a little bit about Prince being inspired by
getting to see James Brown on stage. Right.
Speaker 1: Yes, so I think his stepdad, I think took yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's three. There's like those three imprint moments
that people have in their lives sometimes, and so first
imprint moment for Prince is seeing his dad, Prince Rogers Nels,
that was his stage name. See seeing his dad in
a recording studio where it's got all these chairs and
the lights are on him, and he's got these beautiful
girls dancing behind him. That's inspiration point number one. Inspiration
point number two is after his parents end up divorced
and his mom remarries, his stepdad takes him to see
James Brown. Is rumored that he actually got went to
go and dance on stage a little bit, which is
how he got to see stuff going on backstage with
the again pretty girls. Right. And then this is a
fascinating one for me. He and his father did not
get along especially well, but he got along better with
his dad than he did with his mom once they
had been divorced, Okay, And so at some point he
says to mom, Hey, I'm going to go live with dad.
I can't handle stepdad anymore. I can't handle you anymore.
I'm gonna go live with him. And so he's living
with him, and at some point he says, they're having
woodstock and I really want to go, and his dad says,
I'll take it really yes, wow, And so it's you know,
they but his dad. One of the things that you
got to know about his dad is that he's hyper religious. Right.
That was the big conflict between Prince's mom and his
dad is that his mom wanted to go out and
have a good time and party and do crazy stuff.
She wanted to go crazy, and his dad wanted her
to be there and taking care of things and not
live in this wild, crazy lifestyle, and that led to
their abusive relationship.
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is he's a little bit like
his mother, she's never satisfied, and he's a little bit
like his father too bold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. That bomb nugga, Well that was
what I was leading up to you.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, Sorry, I keep going.
Speaker 2: And so he can still you know, Sorry, I lost
my train. Sorry sorry, that's right. So his dad, being
this ultra religious guy, they got to go to church
on Sunday like, and the concerts over the weekend. So
he's like no, and he's I'm only going to get
to go to the last day. And so he's like,
why is church taking so long today? You know it's
long anyway, right, If you went to church in the sixties,
seventies or eighties, you know that church went way longer
than it ever should, right, And so it's taken an
extra long time today. And then they have to go
home and change clothes, and he's just you know, jumping
up and down next to the car. But his dad
takes him out there and he gets to see Jimmy
Hendrix and Wowstone and third imprint moment of his life.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's fantastic Pool.
Speaker 2: By the way, on the Jimmy Hendrix note, Jimmy hendricks
most famous song the Purple One.
Speaker 1: The Purple One, There You Go, which also appears in
the end of I Want a New Drug. Yeah, flashback
here you lose yep, yep. Okay. So junior high and
high school come around for Prince. He grows up in
Minneapolis and he forms his own band. This band is
called Grand Central. Okay, Prince is out front, He's got
this drummer behind him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: His name is Morse Day.
Speaker 2: I've heard of that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They were a cover band. Later on he changed
up the band. They started doing original stuff. But yes,
it's interesting to note Morris Day was the original drummer
for Prince's very first band.
Speaker 1: Like their high school band. Of course I could play
drummer with Prince, and you know you could. Okay, let's
give that Okay.
Speaker 2: So he he obviously goes on We talked about this
in our past episode. He gets himself a record deal,
he makes sure that he's producing. He demonstrates that he's
got the chops to play all the instruments and produce.
And his first album doesn't really do that great right.
But one of the singles off of that first album
is Soft and Wet.
Speaker 1: Yes, which he releases on his twentieth birthday.
Speaker 2: So that song made an imprint for a couple of
other folks. One of them's name is Wendy Melbourne, Whndy
was thirteen. She said, I can remember the day I'm thirteen.
I'm underage in this dance club in La and i
hear this song Soft and Wet start playing and I'm like,
oh my gosh, and I run over to the DJ
and I'm like, who is this girl? Who is this girl?
She's like that moment is a vivid memory for me,
and I became a huge Prince fan. This is long,
long before they ever meet, but that seed is planted
and impactful in her life. The other person that had
imprinted was Susan Rogers, who was also She was in
West Hollywood. She's on a bus and she hears this
boombox coming from the back seeing some kid in the
back of the bus as his boombox playing soft and wet,
and she's like, I got to know more about who
this guy is. And of course she goes on to
be the producer of a huge body of his work. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We talked about her in our Sign of the Times
episode Yep. Okay.
Speaker 2: So the other thing about that first album though, is
it was a part of a three record deal that
he had signed right right, and they had given him
one hundred and eighty thousand dollars to record those first
three albums and he spent one hundred and seventy of
it on the first album. Oh yeah, and so he's
not doing too well. You know. It wasn't as big
as success. Even though it influenced those girls, it wasn't
a big success for him. His management gets bought out
by these guys named Bob Cavallo and Joe Ruffalo by
it out for fifty thousand dollars. Cavallo and Ruffalo managed
Earthwind and Fire and Ray Parker Junior, who came up
last episode if you'll remember, Yep. And one of the
guys that had working for him was a guy named
Steve Farknoley and he was just an employee at the time,
but he had worked with Sly and the Family Stone,
which Prince was a huge fan of, and so they
hit it off, and so Steve Fagnoli became like Prince's
day to day business manager and eventually became partners with
Cavallo and Ruffalo. So this is early eighties by this time,
and we've almost reached a pinnacle point and that is
the album nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Okay, so most people were familiar with nineteen ninety nine.
He had had some success off of Dirty Month and Controversy,
but nineteen ninety nine is really where he came into
the mainstream, right, right, So he had the big hit
nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Well maybe like when it first got when it first
came out, right, it didn't really do that.
Speaker 1: Well, it's crazy. And then he puts out Little Red
Corvette and that blows up. Little Red Corvette blows up.
Speaker 2: And so they re released nineteen ninety nine and that's.
Speaker 1: When then that blows up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember sitting like riding my school bus to like
the yellow bus to school. I'll the short wind, the
long one right into school, hearing the song nineteen ninety
nine and going Wow. In the year two thousand, I'll
be you know, twenty seven, and.
Speaker 2: I think I've talked about it before, but I remember
very vividly seeing the video for Little Red Corvette. The
first time. It was when we were driving out to
California in nineteen eighty three. Yeah, yeah, to where I
watched all the Booby movies. But on on the hotel
stop along the way, the TV they had in the
hotel had MTV turned it on. There was Prince singing
Little Corvette, dancing his boots off over as Dickerson's guitar sower.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's had some success, yeah, but he's not
really like movie star material, right. But he comes to
the end of this three record deal and he goes
to Bob Cavallo and he says, I want you to
get me into a movie.
Speaker 2: Right. Bob Cavalla is like, we've made you, like we're
a big part of why you are successful in nineteen
ninety nine, and now you're going to give us ultimatums
like I've got to get you in a movie. Yeah yeah,
And he's like, yeah, not sign another deal until you
get me a movie. He's like, I don't want to
be one of your you know, mafia kind of deals.
He's like mafia. Listen, man, I owned a nightclub. I
went to Georgetown University.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not mafia. I read an article where Matt Fink,
doctor Fink, the keyboardist, is like talking to Prince saying,
are you sure we're big enough to do this?
Speaker 2: They're not.
Speaker 1: They're not, they are not.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at me back then it
doesn't make any sense other than Prince is Prince, and
he's just determined to do it. And so Prince had
this little notebook that he would write in and I've
seen it in The Beautiful Ones. If you want to
go check out that book, you can look at every
single notebook page where Prince has written out the story
of Purple Rain. So here's the first lines that he writes,
this is the story of the dreams and aspirations of
three individuals. And then he goes on to introduce Morse, Day,
Vanity and the kid. Yeah, you read the story, and
he's got the story mapped out. Now it is darker.
His story is darker. And one of the fantastic parts
about the darkness of the story is his parents are
already dead in a murder suicide, right, yes, and so
he will have these flashbacks to the fights that his
parents were having, and in his flashbacks, he is the
person playing the part of the father and the mother,
Like he sees himself as father and he sees himself
as mother. And yes, go ahead.
Speaker 1: So maybe he's just like his father, like two bold,
maybe he's just like his mother. She's never satisfied. Bob
Cavallo says, Okay, I'll see what I can do. Right,
So they bring in this guy named William Blynn. Yes,
he wrote for the TV show Fame. Yes, so both
of these movies have roots in Fame, correct, Yes, Okay,
all right, everybody, I just want to formally invite you
to come over and listen to our side project, the
podcast Bulletcrypt tonight with mister John Reid from the thirty
seventy movie podcast, and of course you.
Speaker 2: And me meanwhile at the Hull of Justice, we are
the super Friends.
Speaker 1: That's right. We cover the TV show Superman and Lois.
We go over every episode. We have a great time,
and John knows so much about Superman. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: If you love Superman, or even if you don't you
just want to learn more? Come check it out. And
if you haven't watched Superman and Lois yet, you need
to right now crawl out of your fortress of solitude
and turn the TV.
Speaker 1: On podcast Bull of Cryptodne. So William Blynn says, Okay,
I'll meet with him. We'll talk about some stuff. So
he sits down with Prince. Prince didn't talk very much.
He's naturally a very shy person, which is strange when
you see him on.
Speaker 2: Stage and he's sizing you up. If I've learned anything
on these first meetings that he has with people, he's
sizing them.
Speaker 1: Up well, and he does stuff to intentionally piss.
Speaker 2: You off and mess with you. Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1: So they tease out some stuff about the murder suicide
with his mom and dad. They just kind of get
an outline, and so William Blinn says, Okay, I'll go
away and I'll work on this. And he comes back.
So he keeps calling Prince saying, hey, I've got some
ideas we need to get together and write. And Prince
keeps like not just putting him off, but making appointments, canceling,
ghosting him, dodging him. So he finally gets him. He says, look,
we got to get together, and Prince says, okay, well
let's go see a movie. So he's like, fine, let's
go see a movie. So they go see a movie.
They sit down twenty minutes and Prince gets up and
walks out. So William Blinn is like, that's it. I'm out,
I'm done. I'm done with this. Well, Prince calls him
later and he's like, well, what's the problem, you know,
and he's like, man, what are you talking about? I
can't work this way, and so Prince says, look, I'm sorry,
basically talks him coming back, right. So William blank comes back.
He works on the screenplay and when he turns it
in it's called Dreams Dreams, Yeah, based on that first
sentence that he wrote on right.
Speaker 2: So they've got the writer, but they don't have a director, right,
and Cavallo is like, he's got at least a little
bit of experience, and you know, he's done some movie
work in the past, but not much, right, But he
keeps sending it to director after director and they keep
turning him down and he's getting frustrated, and so he
ends up going to screen this movie of maybe a
potential director, and the movie is called Reckless. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he sits down to watch this movie, Reckless. It
has Aiden Quinn and Daryl Hannah. It's this kind of
James Dean type of film noir movie from the early eighties.
Speaker 2: By the way, Daryl Hannah was one of the potential
aerial possibilities.
Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, So he sits down to watch this movie.
He's the only one in the theater. He watches Reckless
just to take a break, gets up and as he's
walking out, this young guy comes up to him and says, well,
what do you think? And he's like, you know, I
mean it's okay. I mean it was you know, it
was edited well, I mean it was all right, you know,
and the kids like I did that. That was me.
I'm the editor, right right. So the kid's name is
Albert Magnoli. Right, So this guy is.
Speaker 2: Fresh out of US film school. Yeah, he had he
had done well, like he had, he had directed a
short film that actually won a student oscar whatever that is.
But he literally is wet behind the ears as far
as the film industry goes. This is his first experience
in film and he was the editor and the movie's
not that great.
Speaker 1: Right, right, So Cavalli's talking to him, He's like, well
it was edited, well, it seems pretty impressive. How would
you like to be associated with Prince's most picture project? Yeah,
and he's like, fantastic.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 1: I would love to be involved the director of Reckless.
He would love to direct and will edit and it'd
be fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fully James Fully. James Fully was the director. By
the way, side note written by Chris Columbus.
Speaker 1: Get out.
Speaker 2: Nope, I'm serious, like it was. It came out just
before Grimlins, so it technically was Chris Columbus's first producer
wow script. But anyway, Yes, So James Foley, He's like,
I'm excited to work with James Foley again. So he
calls up James Foley to go, hey, I've got this
guy who wants to put us on the Prince movie.
Speaker 1: And James Foley's like, who's Prince? Making a movie about
a guy where directors are saying who's Prince?
Speaker 2: That tells you what's going on. I mean, James Foley'
is an old guy, right, He's been directing a lot
of movies that were much older than this. But he's like, okay,
let me just you know, let me get the script
for you and you can read it. And so he
gets the script, he sends it over to James Foley.
James Foley calls him back the next day. He's like,
have you read this? This is terrible. I am not
going to make this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Albert Magnoli goes back and conveys this information to
Bob Cavallo, and Bob like throws a fett. He's like,
what the heck? You know what am I doing wrong?
I you know, it's just reject after rejection. Yeah, I
think I know what I'm doing. And he's like, well,
you know, I can take a look at it, and yeah,
how about me loongo bango? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Good for him.
Speaker 2: And so he comes back and there's a couple it's
the story is varied here. But he's like, hey, you know,
i'll pay you seventy five thousand dollars to direct this movie.
And Albert Magnall's like nope. He's like, are you freaking kidding? Yeah,
He's like, are you serious right now? He's like, okay, well,
I'm not going to direct it the way that it's
written here's my idea, and he says, what the way
he puts it is, remember the end scene of The Godfather, Yeah,
and it's not really the end scene. It's a mid scene,
but the baptism scene for those Godfather fans out there,
where you're seeing Michael Corleone getting his child baptized, and
while all that's happening, hits are happening from person to person.
And he says, it's going to be that kind of
same like musical underlying thing, which, by the way, that
was what tied that scene together, Like Francis fort Gobbel
about to kick that scene, but the music, I was like,
why don't you put in like organ music over the
top of all of this, And that's what made this
scene such an impactful scene. And so he says, what
we're going to do for the intro to Purple Rain
is that same idea. We're starting with the song, and
the song is going on while we're introducing all of
our characters. In these shot by shot presentations, we see
Morris Day pimping up and getting ready to come out
of his house. We see Prince on stage lighting up
the crowd, and we see Apollonia coming out of the
taxi fresh into the city and sneaking carefully into the nightclub.
Speaker 1: She bails on the cab driver and races off to
go try to get in first out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he won't let her. He's like, She's like,
I have a meeting with the manager, and he's like,
the manager doesn't have meetings. You're fuller. Yeah, and she's like, oh.
And he gets distracted and she runs.
Speaker 1: A store bolts in beautiful and it's great.
Speaker 2: It's a great and.
Speaker 1: That opening scene is fantastic. I mean, you're right. You
get introduced to all three characters, you know who they are,
you know what they're doing, and the song is phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but we can't get into it yet.
Speaker 1: Let's not talk about that.
Speaker 2: Before all of this happens. Obviously, while they're still preparing,
they bring Albert Magnoli over to talk to Prince for
the first time. And as far as Prince knows, like
the idea is, this is a new director and so
he's not going to be any trouble and he's going
to shoot the script the way that the script is written.
And so when they sit down to dinner for the
very first time, Prince is like, so, what do you
think about the script? And Albert Magnoli's like, I hate it.
I don't want to shoot that movie. I would like
to shoot a different movie. And he's a very excited,
like animated guy, and he launches into what his story
idea is for the movie and goes through all of it,
and Prince is like, everybody leave and it's like, oh crap,
and so like everybody leaves and he's like, you come
with me and they get in the car and Prince
is driving silently with Magnoli in the car and he's
just like, what's going on here? And then they take
this exit like into this pitch black you know, middle
of the downtown. You know, who knows what's going on?
Prince Park's the car and he's like, what do you
know about me? And he's like what. He goes, what
have you learned about me? And he's like, I don't
know what you're talking about. He goes, listen, you just
told my life story in ten minutes, and I want
to know how you know it. And Alvin Mangulin was like,
it's just the story that I had. And that is
how he became the for sure director of this movie.
Speaker 1: I thought you were getting ready to tell me that
he made him purify himself and the otters in lake Manattaka.
Probably that's a fantastic story. So I've got this funny
little nugget. This is so cringe worthy I can barely
get it out of my mouth.
Speaker 2: Okay, So when.
Speaker 1: The executives are getting together to discuss the production of
Purple Rain, there's this guy named Mark Kenton, who is
a Warner Brothers executive VP at the time, and he's
sitting in this meeting and he makes the comment that,
you know, I kind of can get behind this movie
Purple Rain. I don't think Prince is big enough. How
about John Volta.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, Yeah, they bail. They're like, this is
exactly why we didn't want to do this in Hollywood.
Knew this crap would happen. And he they bail, and
they call him back and be like, we're sorry, come back,
will will be good, we promise, and so, but it was.
It's something. It's interesting that at that point, despite the
fact that they had all kinds of odds against them,
I mean, not that famous yet, shooting in Minneapolis of
all places, no veteran actors in the winter. Yeah, no
veteran actors in the movie and a pretty thin script
and a brand new director. This movie should not have seen.
Speaker 1: The light of day, and if it did see the
light of day, it should not have been a success.
Speaker 2: But it was.
Speaker 1: Well it's because we all didn't realize who Prince was
until yeah, Purple Rain. Yeah, okay, So at this point,
let's plip back to Footloose and talk about casting.
Speaker 2: That's great, Okay.
Speaker 1: Before we do that, though, I wanted to make mention
Footloose was originally called cheek to cheek.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like an old forties like fred Astaire
gender rock cheek.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kick off your Sunday shoes. No, I don't think
so either, But I mean really that was just kind
of a working title until they came up with footloose
and fancy free, right, and then they just you know,
shortened it down to footloose and it's perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So casting, okay, So they almost got Tom Cruise as
Ray McCormick.
Speaker 2: And if you're forgetting that scene from Risky Business that
we all watched in nineteen eighty three where he dances
in his underwear, he might have been a phenomenal rent.
Speaker 1: I think he could have been great. I mean, Tom Cruise,
one of the biggest movie stars of all died.
Speaker 2: But he's almost too pretty for the partner right, and
you know who else was also pretty almost the guy too,
Rob Low, Rob Low. Rob Low pulled something like injured
himself and couldn't do the dances.
Speaker 1: In his ACL so listen to this, So they bring
in Tom Cruise. He convinces them I can do this dancing,
which I'm not sure that Tom Cruise could do the dancing,
but you know, good enough, I guess. So Tom Cruise
was shooting all the right moves. He had bulked up
to play a football player, and there was some you know,
additional scenes that they had to shoot and stuff like
that and would have delayed production on Footloose. They only
had a small window of time, so even though they
wanted Tom Cruise, they couldn't really take the chance on
the movie not getting made at all. So they bring
in Rob Low and he shows off and looks good,
of course and hugely charismatic actor of our time. And
he hurts his ACL injures it where he can't dance,
can't do it, So they carry him off and they're
like he's out right, So they start looking around. Christopher Adkins,
the guy from the Blue Lagoon, almost got the part,
and some say he did get the part, but he
showed up high on the set one day, and so
they said, I don't think that's a good idea. So
they're bouncing around on who to play Red. They go
to a screening of the movie Diner Right, which stars
Kevin Bacon.
Speaker 2: Now, Kevin Bacon we've talked about before because like one
of the first things we wanted to do was do
the you know, six degrees of Kevin Bacon, because he's
become that guy. But back in nineteen eighty three when
they're putting this movie together, he really hadn't been in much.
He was in National Lampoon's Animal House, but that was
seventy eight, yeah, and so he hadn't done a whole
lot since then. In eighty he was in Friday the Thirteenth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets a spear through the throat, right right.
Speaker 2: He was doing some stage work, and in eighty two
he ended up winning an Obie Award for forty deuce
and was in a Broadway play called Slab Boys with
a couple of guys who were unknown at that time
as well, named Sean Penn and Val Kilmer. Wow, right,
that's pretty cool. And so he ends up from that
getting this part in Barry Levinson's Diner, and he's acting
with Steve Gutenberg, Daniel Stern, Tim Day, and Ellen Barkin.
Speaker 1: So they go see the movie and they like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They think he's got the right charisma, the good sort
of all Americans, sort of neutral, look what they're looking for, right,
And they're like, well, great, let's find out if he
can dance. So they call his agent and they say
can he dance?
Speaker 2: She says no.
Speaker 1: She says no, what kind of agent are you?
Speaker 2: You're supposed to get me jobs?
Speaker 1: The answer is yes, whatever it is, it's yes. So
she says no, and they say, well, not even a little,
Like can we teach him? And they're like, no, he
can't dance at all. So they're like, man, back to
the drawing board. So they're they're fretting and thinking and
looking around. I can't find w Rent. And Dean Pittford
has a conversation with somebody who's like, I just can't
find Rent. And the person says, independently without this knowledge, says, well,
have you thought about Kevin Macon and he says, well, yeah,
well we thought about it, but he can't dance. He's like,
what do you talk about? I was at a party
last night. He's dancing his rear rock the whole time,
and he's like, what are you kidding me? Yeah, So
they go and they rekindle those conversations with Kevin Bacon. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the only problem is, at this point, Kevin Bacon
gets cast as the lead role in Christine the Stephen
King Car Movie, Car Movie. Yes, And so he gets
this lead role and then they offer him a screen
test for Footloose. So the producers have to convince him
it's smarter to turn down this sure thing lead role
just to be in an audition for our maybe movie
that's remarkable. Yeah, And so he does it and thirty
seconds into the audition they said, you're our guy. And
the only problem is one of the studio producers for Paramount,
Sherry Lansing, who is an She's an icon as far
as producers go, like first woman to do one hundred
thousand things in Hollywood. But she's like, he's not sexy.
I'm not putting him in this movie. And they're like
what we just convinced him to drop a sure thing
role he's our guy, and she's like, nope, not doing it.
Not sexy. So herb ross for like weeks has to
convince her that he's sexy, and so he does screen
test for screen tester s free test and finally she's.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, fine, so the screen test, Okay, yeah, let's
talk about that for a second. I thought this was remarkable.
So they go and they get him some high fashion
nineteen eighty four clothing, they dress him up, they gave
him a fifteen hundred dollars haircut. Kevin Bacan's like, what, well,
what fifteen hundred bucks in nineteen eighty three, they get
the guy that's like haircut guy of the Stars, right,
and they want to make him look like Sting.
Speaker 2: Sting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, flashback to our synchronousit the episode and they set
the screen test to beat it by Michael Jackson. So
he's dancing around with the Sting haircut with his high
fashion clothes and that's when they're like, okay, yeah, he's
it was he wearing a skinny tie probably, And here's
the deal. They had already agreed that if they don't
cast Kevin Bacon. We are not making this movie. Oh wow,
it was a do or die.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Everything was on the line all in.
Speaker 2: So we've got our male lead. Now we need our engenoue, right,
we need our young Ariel.
Speaker 1: Yes, so Lurie Singer is the person that ended up
getting the role. Madonna auditioned for this. Daryl Hannah was she.
Speaker 2: In that Mermaid movie that you're talking about earlier?
Speaker 1: Yes, it was not that Mermaid. She's in a different
Mermaid movie called Splash. Daryl Hannah almost got the part.
Jennifer Jason Lee almost got this part. Havelan Morris, if
you've ever seen sixteen Candles, Elizabeth McGovern, Melanie Griffith was interested,
Michelle Pfeiffer was interested. Nice Jamie Lee, Curtis, Meg Tilley,
Heather locklear Brookshields, Diane Lane, Lori Laughlin, Phoebe Kates all considered.
Speaker 2: So Lurie Singer her dad was a conductor and she
was a musical prodigy. She debuted as a cellist with
the Oregon Symphony when she was thirteen years old, and
then got accepted to Juilliard, where she became, like her
the youngest graduate from Juilliard and then she decides, Hey,
I'm going to do some modeling, and the modeling turns
into getting cast in this TV series that we just
mentioned a couple times called Fame.
Speaker 1: It all goes back to Fame.
Speaker 2: She plays the part of Julie Miller, who is a
teenage dancer and cellist from nineteen eighty two to nineteen
eighty three, and that is what gets her in front
of them to be our aerial fantastic.
Speaker 1: Okay, you mentioned Sean Penn earlier. Yep, the part of
Willard goes to chris Pin Shawn Friend's brother.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: The funny thing about this he cannot dance, not at all,
not a lick, not a bit like Kevin Bacon was
said not to dance. He really can't dance like Kevin
Bacon said that. He showed up to the dancing class
with a cigarette in one hand and a Pepsi in
the other, was trying to do the dances, and they're like,
could you put that out?
Speaker 2: She was seventeen, Wow.
Speaker 1: Seventeen, which, by the way, I think Kevin Bacon was
twenty four when he did this.
Speaker 2: Right, in seventy eight, he's playing a college kid and
in eighty four, or he's playing a high school The
fact that he couldn't dance was made a part of
the movie. That's great, and it's possibly the best part
of the movie. I mean, it's iconic that time that
they're training him, the montage scene where they're teaching him
how to dance. I mean, that's huge. That's a huge
part of the whole storyline.
Speaker 1: And I think it's huge because for guys like me
who can't dance, Yeah, there's somebody in the movie that
I can relate to and be a part of and
take the ride with.
Speaker 2: Yep. Okay, so we've got our male lead, we've got
our female lead, we've got our best friend, and now
we need our quotation Mark's villain. And so for that
part we have John Lithgow. Here's what I know about
that part. Okay.
Speaker 1: So Dean Pitchford went and saw this play on Broadway
called Beyond Therapy, Okay, and that starred John Lithgow and
Diane Weist, and Dean Pitchford loved their chemistry on stage together,
and he's like, I got a perfect thing. We'll get
both of those as the preacher and his wife.
Speaker 2: Brilliant And I didn't realize what a stud John Lithgow is.
I mean beyond the fact that you know Harry and
the Henderson's and Third Rock from the Sun and yeah,
I mean all of those movies obviously. But he graduated
from Harvard with an abe Macna Coomb Laudie what. He
got a full Bright scholarship and he had a chance
to go to the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art.
From there he went to train in New York stage,
beginning a distinguished career on Broadway. In seventy three he
got his first Tony Award, and then in seventy nine
he was cast in one of his earliest screen roles,
All That Jazz by our friend Bob Fosse.
Speaker 1: Real quick on Diane Weist. Yes, she does a wonderful
job of being strong but sort of in the background,
supporting her husband, supporting her daughter and doing what's right.
Diane Weist flashback to Our Lost Boys episode Ye all
most unrecognizable Preacher's wife. Okay, one more quick, one I
want to talk about real quick before we move on.
Sarah Jessica Parker plays the part of Rusty. You met
a woman named Rusty? No, I haven't either okay, but
that part originally went to Tracy Nelson, who was her
co star on the show Square Pegs. Oh yeah, okay.
Apparently Tracy Nelson had some sort of family difficulties back home,
and when they got on set, they realized pretty quickly
she needs to be back home. They called Sarah Jessica
Parker and she said, great, all right, let's flip back
to Purple Rain and talk about casting for Purple Rain.
Speaker 2: Right, So, the part of the kid was to be
played by Prince now John Travolta, not John Travolta, you guys,
I'm going home. So and the part of Morris Day
they found it with the exact same name who happened
to know Prince, So that was lucky. Yep. Yes, And
then the part of Apollonia was supposed to be played
by Vanity.
Speaker 1: Vanity was Princess's girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: She had been involved in his rock group called Vanity six,
who had a couple of hits, and.
Speaker 2: We talked about her in a little bit of detail
on our Motley Cruz did do a good episode right
there's she plays a prominent part in Nicky Six's Heroin Diaries.
By the way didn't occur to me the whole time
that I read that book. They were engaged. Had she
married Nicky six, she would have become Vanity six.
Speaker 1: That would have been pretty cool.
Speaker 2: That had been a little weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, like you said, the miraculous journey that Purple
Rain makes from paper to screen, it's really amazing because
you finally convinced a writer to come up for yep,
you finally convinced somebody to produce this thing. Prince is like,
I want to be a movie star, and they're like okay.
And then as soon as you get like the plane
is coming off the ground and we're actually going to
do this, the leading lady quits.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She and Prince were obviously having a fallen out,
which was a part of it. But she had had
acting experience, right, she had been in a few movies.
This is kind of this weird situation where this kind
of bit part player is the one with the most
experience of pety that they got that they've got there,
and so she was like, I need more money than
you guys are offering me, and they're like you're not
that good, right, And there's talk that she was supposed
to play Mary Magdalen in the Last Temptation of Christ,
which I mean, yes, if you're going to go work
with Martin Scorsese as opposed to the first time director
out of USC college. Yeah, yes, you would go do that,
but I think it was just kind of talks and
then that didn't happen. So yeah, so she missed out. Yes,
and let's not forget she was also drug out, little crazy.
Here's her quote regarding Prince in Purple Rain. Yeah, I
needed one person to love me, and he needed more.
So now they're on the look.
Speaker 1: For who's going to play the leading lady. Yeah, right,
So they audition up to five hundred actresses. But this
includes people like Jennifer bils From who had done the
movie Flash Dance, right Nia, people's Gina Gersham.
Speaker 2: All of these people look very similar, dark hair, dark eyes, well,
Gina Gershon. Gina Gershon wasn't anything at that point either.
Speaker 1: No, she's Meg Hut.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She still couldn't save Showgirls though, No.
Speaker 1: She couldn't know, No, she could. So they auditioned this
girl named Patricia Kotero, who had been a La Rams cheerleader.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd been in a couple of movies and again
bit Parts was married at the time, but was also
having a pretty interesting romance with our friend David Lee.
Speaker 1: Roth flashback to our Van Halen episodes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so she was bound and determined to become
a movie star. But for this part, unlike everyone else
who showed up in you know, eighteen inch heels and
skin tight leather, she showed up in jogging pants and no, mago.
Speaker 1: I don't really understand that.
Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, but they're like, okay, this is different
and looks good, and so let's have her meet Prince.
Her parents are both immigrants from Mexico, so she's fluent
in Spanish.
Speaker 1: So after her audition, Prince likes her and they fly
her out to Minneapolis. Well, his bodyguard's name is Chick.
He's a big guy. He's actually in purple rain. You
can see him a couple times. And he goes to
her and he says he likes her, like he really
likes you, and she's like, wow, you really think, I mean,
is this gonna happen? And he's like, well, he wants
to take you out. So they go out and go
dinner and dancing, and so they go to First Avenue
uh huh. And when they get there, I guess who's there? Vanity? Yeah,
She's like, oh crap, Vanity's here. What's gonna happen? Is
she gonna freak out go crazy?
Speaker 2: And No just stood there glaring from the side.
Speaker 1: So Prince was wanting to see how she was going
to react, probably messing with Vanity as well. After that
night out, He's like, this is my girl. I can
work with this girl.
Speaker 2: Sidebar, sidebar. So she ends up seeking out Vanity to
make friends with her, right, and they become friends and
at some point they get together for lunch and Vanity
is like, so, you know, are you doing any more movies?
What have you got going on? And she's and Apollonia
is like, oh yeah, I got the female part in
this movie called The Last Dragon. And Vanity's like, it's up.
What walks over to the phone and she's like she
could hear her screaming at somebody on the phone, comes back,
sits down and as it turns out, she didn't have
that part because Ny got it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, we should back up. Her name is Patricia.
She would by Patty, Yeah, Patty Catero, not quite as
strong a stage name.
Speaker 2: As Apollonia, right, Apollonia again comes from Godfather. Godfather. Yeah,
the pretty Italian bride that Michael Corleone had unfortunately gets
blown up.
Speaker 1: So he goes to Patty Yeah, and he's like, I
see you more as a one name type of girl.
So last name gone, We're just gonna call you Apollonia.
She's like, whatever you say sounds good.
Speaker 2: Sounds good. Let's do this. So Appollonia's six initially had
this song that you might have heard of, called Manic Munda.
Speaker 1: Said it was just I can see that, you know,
I listened to it on the way here today.
Speaker 2: Yes, you listen to that version.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a demo, so it's not polished like it
should be. But the Bengals is way better for sure,
especially the bridge.
Speaker 2: In the middle. Well, she just did an interview last
month and for the first time she came out and said,
I helped Prince write the song Manic Monday. She's gotten
no writing credits, like, I never asked for it, never
wanted it. He was going to do things, he was
going to fix things. Just before he died. Who knows
I've gotten you know, It's it's suspicious, to say the least.
But it's interesting that in their interactions together she comes
up with this and that Apolonia six records a version
of it. But she also said she's the one that
turned Prince onto Susannah Hoffs for the first time. Yeah,
like she was a Susannah Hoffs fan, enjoyed her music.
And of course when he sees Suzannah Hoffs like in
the video, she's wearing like this made uniform or whatever,
and he's like, oh, yeah, I can work. So that
was that was how he took that song and gave
it to the Bangles. Oh yeah, there are a couple
more casting things that we need to talk about. So
the only actors that had acting experience in this movie Appollonia, Yes,
and the mom and the Dad. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say Apolloni was in a TV
show that I used to love as a kid that
I barely remember. But it's based on Raiders of the
Lost Ark. It's called Tales of a Gold Monkey. Do
you remember that show?
Speaker 2: No, So mom is played by Olga Carlatos, who really
hasn't been in much else but the dad. The dad
is Clarence Williams the Third who just last week passed away. Tragic.
But he was Link on the mod squad. He was
the cool guy on the mod squad, Lincoln whatever, his
last name was. Link. Yeah, he was just this just
cool dude. And I gotta say his performance in this
movie is Oscar worthy in my opinion. It's really he
does such a good job with this movie.
Speaker 1: He adds the depth and the emotion and the anger
and the rage that this really the crux of the
story depends on. Yeah, and the sea where he's slapping
the mom around, which as a kid, of course, I
saw it a thousand times because I watched the Wind
Doves Cry video a billion times. Right, he's like slapping
her around. Prince comes in and he shoves him to
the floor. At the time, I remember thinking, man, he's
really beating her up. You know, it's just very intense acting.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you can't actually beat the actors up. They
don't like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's it for this week's episode, Purple Rain
versus Footloose. Come back next week.
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Speaker 1: We only have three weeks left on our summer of
eighty four after this week. Next week we're going to
finish up the movie Comparison, and then we're going to
go track by track through both of these albums. It's
going to be fantastic, yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, joles
Speaker 1: Jo