Speaker 1: Oh bed of Fessor, Hello and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is
Speaker 2: Jonathan and Jacob and today we bring back your boy,
Speaker 2: Christopher Bowling. What's up, my good sir? All right, good
Speaker 2: to be with you, hey man. We are excited to
Speaker 2: have you back. We had John last year, and we
Speaker 2: figure tis the season for nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: So I mean, look, well let's let's get all the
Speaker 3: way into it.
Speaker 2: And for anybody that you know, maybe didn't listen to
Speaker 2: that episode the last time you were on here, could
Speaker 2: uh could you let our good cult members know who
Speaker 2: you are and how did you stumble across this information?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm I'm a journalist. I was a journalist for
Speaker 4: an American Free Press in Washington, d C. When nine
Speaker 4: to eleven happened, and it fell right into my my lap.
Speaker 4: As the kind of things that I was specialized in
Speaker 4: was government cover ups and terrorism, acts of false flag terrorism,
Speaker 4: especially when when something is done and blamed on another entity.
Speaker 4: And in this case, it was very it was very
Speaker 4: clear that the official narrative was going to blame or
Speaker 4: something bin Laden and the people that were pushing the
Speaker 4: official narrative were Israeli liquid niks who are running Israel
Speaker 4: today and we're running Israel then and have brought us
Speaker 4: to the point where we are now in the Middle
Speaker 4: East with uh Gaza genocide and and all that, and
Speaker 4: that has that has done a lot to sharpen people's
Speaker 4: minds as to the real, the real power structure in
Speaker 4: the Middle East.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, so you just to give the brief overview of that.
Speaker 5: You were working as a journalist in Washington, d C.
Speaker 5: And you through your work, you just happen to stumble
Speaker 5: upon this information that there was going to be some
Speaker 5: sort of a big event. Did you know it was
Speaker 5: going to be the Twin Towers or did you just
Speaker 5: know it was going to be some type of big
Speaker 5: mass casualty event where Solom bin Lam was going to
Speaker 5: get implemented.
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't. I didn't know about any big event
Speaker 4: coming up. But but everything that happened in those that
Speaker 4: time in the late nineties early two thousand, everything that
Speaker 4: happened was blamed on Osam bin Laden. He was the
Speaker 4: fall guy for everything. And there were people like William
Speaker 4: Cooper and others who predicted that it was going to happen.
Speaker 4: Even Alex Jones I think to some degree talked about
Speaker 4: it a big e ain't going to happen.
Speaker 2: William Cooper specifically called out Osama bin Lawden.
Speaker 5: We gave Alex Jones, and if I'm not mistaken, he
Speaker 5: also called out that it was going to be a
Speaker 5: twin the twin towers are going to get hit. I
Speaker 5: don't know if he knew it was going to be
Speaker 5: planes or if it was going to be a bomb
Speaker 5: type of situation like it was in the early nineties
Speaker 5: in the World Trade Center or what, but I remember
Speaker 5: hearing the clip where he said, soon the World Trade
Speaker 5: Center is going to be attacked and Osam bin Lan
Speaker 5: is going to be blamed.
Speaker 4: It was a whole thing, and we had we had
Speaker 4: Benajam Netta Yahoo writing books in the in the early
Speaker 4: nineties predicting. In nineteen ninety five his book, he wrote
Speaker 4: that Arabs would put a nuclear bomb in the basement
Speaker 4: of the World Trade Center and blow it up. I
Speaker 4: mean this, there's an idiation going on when they were
Speaker 4: putting the idea into the mind of the public that
Speaker 4: this was going to happen, and they even made.
Speaker 2: What do you think the reason is that they almost
Speaker 2: say it before it happens. Is it part of the ritual?
Speaker 2: I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: That's a very good question. You know. They went so
Speaker 4: far as to make television shows. One was called The
Speaker 4: Lone Gunmen YEP where it came out in March of
Speaker 4: two thousand and one. It aired six months before the attacks,
Speaker 4: and the person behind the idea promoting the idea was
Speaker 4: a man named Arnad Milchhan. Some people say arn On Milshan.
Speaker 4: He's a He's a producer in Hollywood Israeli Israelly Mozart
Speaker 4: agent who seems to have endless amounts of cash to
Speaker 4: produce movies. He made JFK, for example, and films like that.
Speaker 4: He made. His first film he ever made was in
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy he ate and it's called The Medusa Touch
Speaker 4: with Richard Burton. And in The Medusa Touch, it's it's
Speaker 4: the Richard Burton has this power telekinesis to make things move,
Speaker 4: make things happen by simply thinking about them. And he
Speaker 4: and the climax of the movie is that he dreams
Speaker 4: or he thinks of a plane flying into the World
Speaker 4: Trade into the World Trade Center. The building they used
Speaker 4: it for that movie was not the World Trade Center.
Speaker 4: They used the PanAm building I believe, mhm. But they
Speaker 4: they put it on film, and the film didn't go
Speaker 4: very far and was bought very quickly by a by
Speaker 4: a British Jewish fella named I forgot his name. But
Speaker 4: they they put the idea out there in the public,
Speaker 4: in the mind. And why they do this. Some people
Speaker 4: say it's to reduce their karmic load, or it's part
Speaker 4: of the ritual. I don't know, but it's clearly part
Speaker 4: of the planning. Because people that are able to visualize
Speaker 4: and to manipulate, you know, things to to to to
Speaker 4: happen like that, and I certainly have the power to
Speaker 4: to bring the idea into the public's mind.
Speaker 2: It almost makes me wonder, are they are there certain
Speaker 2: people within the know that can't say anything, but they
Speaker 2: maybe they can through their their art or through.
Speaker 3: Their music or through their movies.
Speaker 2: Could it be some kind of and I'm just going
Speaker 2: all the way out of left field right here, but
Speaker 2: it could it be some kind of empathetic.
Speaker 3: Move that they're doing it, or there's no way that
Speaker 3: that could be.
Speaker 4: I don't think these people had any empathy for anybody
Speaker 4: one one very peculiar character in this whole thing is
Speaker 4: the first suspect would be the owner of the properties,
Speaker 4: the person who benefited from the insurance policies on on
Speaker 4: on the Wild Trade Center. And that's Larry Silverstein.
Speaker 5: Who wouldn't it just six months prior had put tear
Speaker 5: risk insurance on these buildings for the first time in history.
Speaker 5: And it's like bro six six weeks, six weeks weeks
Speaker 5: excuse six weeks prior.
Speaker 4: Right. And the thing is that he was speaking in Israel.
Speaker 4: He goes to Israel often. He was speaking in Israel
Speaker 4: in English to a group of students or something, and
Speaker 4: he talked about how he very carefully pondered his every
Speaker 4: word was very carefully. He said, in April, April of
Speaker 4: two thousand, he met with the architects and they planned
Speaker 4: the building of the new World Trade Center step number seven.
Speaker 4: Now this is what a year and four months before
Speaker 4: nine to one one occurred. He's telling the public in Israel,
Speaker 4: where he feels more free, perhaps that he met with
Speaker 4: architects and they began planning the new World Trade Center
Speaker 4: number seven. That's that's uh, you know that kind of thing. Also,
Speaker 4: the way Al Franken the congressman or this congressman from Minnesota.
Speaker 4: He said that he got a call, the Jew call.
Speaker 4: He called it from.
Speaker 6: Call.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's what he called it in his
Speaker 4: book The Liars, Damn Liars and something like that, liars
Speaker 4: and damn liars and and he and and he said
Speaker 4: that he got the call and the call told him
Speaker 4: to to not go to the World Trade Center on
Speaker 4: the twenty third of Elulu Hebrew. I think it was.
Speaker 4: That was the date with in the Hebrew calendar. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it was. The date was September eleventh. And he
Speaker 4: and he publishes a book any any any and you
Speaker 4: know when the when the when the wound was still
Speaker 4: sore in the American body politic, he's putting out in
Speaker 4: a book that that he was warned about an attack.
Speaker 4: And he's not joking. And and that's that's that's that
Speaker 4: that that may be some sort of empathetic, empathetic warning.
Speaker 4: But I mean, there were there were quite a few
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 5: I think that, especially when we're talking about The Loan Gunman,
Speaker 5: which if you haven't seen the series, I would recommend
Speaker 5: you check it out. It's worth it's worth a gander. Right,
Speaker 5: It's a borderline side fi conspiracy esque thriller from this timeframe,
Speaker 5: and it was actually from not mistake. It meant to
Speaker 5: be sort of a spin off of the X Files,
Speaker 5: not directly, but sort of because there was a lot
Speaker 5: of characters from the X Files that made guest appearances
Speaker 5: on The Loan Gunman. And I think that that kind
Speaker 5: of to your point, Jonathan, it's like they were kind
Speaker 5: of soft launching certain ideas, right the X Files, if
Speaker 5: we're talking about the old school X Files or the
Speaker 5: revamp that was in the nineties, it kind of got people.
Speaker 5: It was a good way to test the waters, if
Speaker 5: you will, to see is there a market for this?
Speaker 5: Are people actually interested in looking at certain situations through
Speaker 5: a different lens, from a different perspective, going against the
Speaker 5: official narrative, maybe some out of the box type of thinking.
Speaker 5: And it was a hit. It was an absolute hit.
Speaker 5: The X Files back in the day was a hit.
Speaker 5: The X Files in the nineties was a hit all
Speaker 5: the way through Savage love that absolutely. Then The Loan
Speaker 5: Gunman was more of the not so much the uh
Speaker 5: the for lack of better words, the alien or even
Speaker 5: the spiritual side of things. It was more of the
Speaker 5: government conspiratorial side of things, which the X Files did
Speaker 5: make mention enough from time to time, and they saw that, yes,
Speaker 5: there absolutely was a market in this entire genre. That
Speaker 5: being said that, I just looked it up here. That
Speaker 5: show aired in June of two thousand and one, So
Speaker 5: it's almost like they were soft launching and getting the
Speaker 5: public already thinking these things then nine to eleven happens.
Speaker 5: But the official narrative that went out was to pull
Speaker 5: on the heartstrings of America. Everybody doesn't matter if you
Speaker 5: were whatever religion, whatever race, whatever political affiliation, whatever socioeconomic class,
Speaker 5: it did not matter. As soon as those towers got hit,
Speaker 5: everyone unanimously agreed, we gotta go and we got we
Speaker 5: gotta go fight these people. Now, it was a unifying event,
Speaker 5: if you will. It was only years later when more
Speaker 5: of the public really started to look at it more critically.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was. It was the pilot episode
Speaker 4: of The Lone Gunmen and it was made by Upert
Speaker 4: Murdochs of Fox Television, which was partners they were They
Speaker 4: were working with arn On Milkhan in Hollywood. And uh So,
Speaker 4: the question is, in my mind is who put the
Speaker 4: idea of flying planes into buildings, into into the the idea,
Speaker 4: the thinking of the world. And we have this are
Speaker 4: On Milkan guy who is happens to be one of
Speaker 4: the one of the people involved in the current trial
Speaker 4: with nata yahunata Yahu is being charged with all kinds
Speaker 4: of bribery and scandals of that of that sort political.
Speaker 4: But the character who.
Speaker 7: Who who gave the gifts to Netanyahu is an On Milkhan,
Speaker 7: and Milkan Milkhon was is considered to be like the.
Speaker 4: Number one Israeli Mosart agent. He's the guy that got
Speaker 4: the nuclear triggers for Israel. He's the guy that smuggled uranium.
Speaker 4: He's when they need something done, like for their nuclear program.
Speaker 4: And I'm Milkon was the one who did it.
Speaker 5: And so is this research and information that you found
Speaker 5: in your work as a journalist or because you are
Speaker 5: you still a journalist, or you've retired since then.
Speaker 4: I don't do that much writing right now, but I
Speaker 4: do a lot of thinking about this, And you know
Speaker 4: I haven't written. I've written all my work on nine
Speaker 4: to elevens in two books called Solving nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: The big book is the original Articles, which has all
Speaker 4: the articles that I wrote over time from two thousand
Speaker 4: and one through to twenty twelve. Then there's a small
Speaker 4: section of articles that came after that.
Speaker 2: Okay, so get into like symbolism or numerology or the
Speaker 2: occult in general as far as this stuff kind of goes,
Speaker 2: because we've heard it mentioned that it was some kind
Speaker 2: of mass occult ritual, and you know, just with the
Speaker 2: stuff that I've been learning, I've been learning about, like,
Speaker 2: you know, the meanings of specific numbers and everything whenever
Speaker 2: you pop up on you know, the news or TV shows,
Speaker 2: because it's almost like subconsciously programming you. From what I found,
Speaker 2: the number nine usually means the end of a cycle
Speaker 2: or the coming to the end of a cycle, and eleven,
Speaker 2: you know, it means a couple of different ways.
Speaker 3: Actually.
Speaker 2: Alistair Crowley said that the number eleven is the most
Speaker 2: evil number in the world because he believed that God
Speaker 2: represented ten, because it's the it's the beginning of a
Speaker 2: cycle and the end of a cycle all the way through.
Speaker 2: He said that eleven was the most evil number ever
Speaker 2: created because it.
Speaker 3: Was it meant one more than God.
Speaker 2: And then if you look at eleven from another angle,
Speaker 2: eleven could be the representation of the two pillars right
Speaker 2: of initiate.
Speaker 3: So usually the initiate has to.
Speaker 2: Walk through two pillars and that person And this is
Speaker 2: you know, within Freemasonry, and I think even within Cobbylism
Speaker 2: and stuff like that too, But usually that's that's, uh,
Speaker 2: that initiation, you have to walk through those two pillars.
Speaker 3: Have you ever looked at anything like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, you know, just the two pillars, the
Speaker 4: twin pillars is a is a strong Masonic symbol and
Speaker 4: numerology and the use of numbers to convey messages is
Speaker 4: very common in Israel. They use it for everything they write.
Speaker 4: They write numbers in alphabetical form, you know, by letters
Speaker 4: and and so you know, I've seen them how they
Speaker 4: do this. They do it to conceal. They do it
Speaker 4: to conceal from the customer or they the fool who
Speaker 4: they're trying to who they're trying to beguile, that the
Speaker 4: real price is written in Hebrew letters and that's the
Speaker 4: lowest price they'll go to. So when the negotiating, they
Speaker 4: know they know how low they can go, but the
Speaker 4: client has no idea what that means. But I mean,
Speaker 4: it's it's it's very very common in Israel to use
Speaker 4: numbers as symbols. It's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. We're
Speaker 4: not we don't think like that unless unless you do
Speaker 4: a lot of cabalistic training and and you know, interpretation
Speaker 4: of Hebrew texts. But it's a big thing for them.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, it seems like it.
Speaker 2: It's just so crazy and that's and maybe that's just
Speaker 2: because that's where my mind tends to go, is looking
Speaker 2: at the symbolism of stuff like of stuff like this.
Speaker 2: But my thing is is that why was it represented
Speaker 2: in so many TV shows and so many movies beforehand?
Speaker 2: You know, you see it's uh, it was almost and
Speaker 2: people would say that this might be subjective, but you
Speaker 2: can almost see it in one of the magazines in
Speaker 2: the Simpsons, right, like I think part there was a
Speaker 2: whole up the Twin Towers magazine or something like that,
Speaker 2: and it showed like an airplane crashing into it. And
Speaker 2: then there could have possibly been and in the.
Speaker 5: Future with the Twin Pines mall and all these things, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, and those are just a couple just
Speaker 2: to name a few. But I just I wonder if
Speaker 2: this was part of the ritual in general, and if
Speaker 2: it was part of the ritual.
Speaker 3: Why go Why does it have to be a ritual?
Speaker 2: Like, do you need to have a ritual to to
Speaker 2: send a plane into towers?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Like I'm having trouble understanding that part because I feel
Speaker 2: like they don't need a ritual in order to send
Speaker 2: an airplane into a couple of towers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know what you're saying. But you know, these people,
Speaker 4: like I said, use ritual, use symbols, use names. I
Speaker 4: think that the towers have We're named the twin Towers
Speaker 4: and are called Boaz and I don't know who the
Speaker 4: other one is, but Jophis or something. But they give
Speaker 4: names on the on the twin towers.
Speaker 5: And now that's interesting because bo As was the was
Speaker 5: it the great grandfather of David? I'm not mistaken. He's
Speaker 5: the one that married the Mobite woman Ruth later on.
Speaker 5: That's in the Book of Ruth if I'm not that's
Speaker 5: the story of Naomi and Ruth and all that. And
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of the other tower.
Speaker 3: I got it ready here, hold.
Speaker 5: Up, interesting, this is interesting. I've never heard this before.
Speaker 2: The names of the twin towers. Uh, well, these are
Speaker 2: the names of the of the Twin Pillars. So the
Speaker 2: name twin Pillars at the entrance of Solomon's Temple are
Speaker 2: Boaz and Joschin. Josh means in him is strength, while
Speaker 2: joshin means he will establish.
Speaker 5: They could be wrong, but I think that's a Joan
Speaker 5: right because it's a two and C where you got
Speaker 5: to throw the flem in there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so damn I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, is that said to be also the name
Speaker 2: of the Twin Towers as well?
Speaker 3: I mean, why wouldn't it be.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got all of DC set up like
Speaker 2: a full on Masonic you know, Square and Compass and
Speaker 2: and all that shit.
Speaker 5: So this is New York City. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 5: saying that this wasn't the names given to these towers.
Speaker 5: This is just this is the first I've ever heard
Speaker 5: of this.
Speaker 2: Only only reason I say this because they're federal buildings,
Speaker 2: you know, and I think of DC whenever I think
Speaker 2: of federal buildings personally, And these.
Speaker 5: Were more than just federal. These were international buildings. This
Speaker 5: wasn't just the American Trade centers, this was the world
Speaker 5: trade centers. They had representatives from all over the world,
Speaker 5: that did business here. Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5: That being said, free Masonry is a worldwide organization. So
Speaker 5: although we are reading what the Freemasons call their two pillars,
Speaker 5: the Freemasons in France and Russia and Israel and America,
Speaker 5: doesn't matter, they all refer to their twin pillars as
Speaker 5: these names. So to your point, there may be a
Speaker 5: little bit more of an occult residence here than what
Speaker 5: originally has seen.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: Right? I agree? I mean I think that a lot
Speaker 4: of a lot of it is symbolism and the Masonic
Speaker 4: or the secret society behind this, the whole endeavor has
Speaker 4: to be has to be acknowledged, because you ask yourself,
Speaker 4: when this happened, it's the worst terror attack in US history,
Speaker 4: worst crime in New York City. We got a official
Speaker 4: narrative that was prepared by the media given to US
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven, and there was no investigation at all.
Speaker 4: There was no tendency, there was no there was nobody
Speaker 4: was Nobody was even calling for an investigation. It took
Speaker 4: it took like a half a year for them for
Speaker 4: the relatives to get themselves to Washington, d seated demand
Speaker 4: investigation because the so you have to ask yourself, why
Speaker 4: what is the connecting force between the all the media networks,
Speaker 4: all the outlets in media, and the authorities to agree
Speaker 4: that they will not be a call for an investigation.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, when something like this happens, the first
Speaker 4: thing you need to do is an investigation. And clearly
Speaker 4: the first the prime suspect was Larry Larry Silverstein. I mean,
Speaker 4: he owned the towers, He ensured the towers, and he
Speaker 4: watched them come down. He didn't he didn't go to
Speaker 4: work that day because his wife said he had to
Speaker 4: go to the dramatologist or something like that. But his
Speaker 4: children avoided calamity. He avoided calamity, and he collected double double,
Speaker 4: double double pay for the loss of the twin towers.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the very first Yeah, and he owned Building seven.
Speaker 4: The very first suspect in such a crime is the
Speaker 4: is the owner. In Chicago, they tend to call such
Speaker 4: such things Jewish lightning, that that a person buys a property,
Speaker 4: ensures it, and then it burns down.
Speaker 5: I mean in the mafia, they've been doing that for years, right,
Speaker 5: I've never heard of it called Jewish lightning before, but
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, that's what you do, right. You have
Speaker 5: a storefront of some type, you use it as a
Speaker 5: money laundering operation and just you know, illegal things come
Speaker 5: in the back, or come in the front, get sold
Speaker 5: out the back at ridiculous rates. And then whenever the
Speaker 5: heat gets onto you and you've made as much money
Speaker 5: as you can out of the establishment, you make sure
Speaker 5: your fire insurance is up and you torch the place.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually just found something really interesting. I want to
Speaker 2: see what your thoughts are on it. There was this guy,
Speaker 2: professor Ili Yahoo Rips. He discovered a code within the
Speaker 2: Bible that if you punch things in from the outside world,
Speaker 2: that the Bible will be able to.
Speaker 3: Almost like interpret it in a weird way. But he said.
Speaker 2: This code was discovered by Professor il Yahoo Rips the
Speaker 2: evening after the disaster which stunned the whole world occurred
Speaker 2: in New York City. This code contains a series of
Speaker 2: terms which are chillingly connected to the terrifying catastrophe. To
Speaker 2: check if events or incidents are hinted to in the Bible,
Speaker 2: the computer is programmed to look where the shortest sequence
Speaker 2: of two words cross each other's path. First, the terms
Speaker 2: twins and towers in Hebrew were fed to the computer,
Speaker 2: and it scanned the Bible and found the shortest sequence
Speaker 2: where both words appear in the Torah. The table before
Speaker 2: you shows where the words crossed. This meeting also contains
Speaker 2: the shortest sequence of the word twins anywhere in the Torah.
Speaker 2: So the shortest sequence in quotes meaning means the shortest
Speaker 2: interval of letters that appear between each other in the word.
Speaker 2: The shortest sequence of the word to you mim, which
Speaker 2: means twins, appears with a sequence of thirty six letters
Speaker 2: between each letter of the word. After finding the shortest sequence,
Speaker 2: the computer then shifts the letters to shifts the letters
Speaker 2: of the text to create a table with thirty six
Speaker 2: letters on each line, so that the searched word appears
Speaker 2: in a straight vertical line.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting way, it says.
Speaker 2: The shortest sequence of the word mick delay, which is
Speaker 2: towers in Hebrew, I think is seventy one letters, So
Speaker 2: it says thirty six letters times two minus one would
Speaker 2: equal seventy one. We find this word in the above
Speaker 2: table with each of its letters appearing every other line,
Speaker 2: while regressing a letter each line. Now that we have
Speaker 2: the table set up, we can start searching for other
Speaker 2: words related to what happened to the twin towers. Astonishingly
Speaker 2: we hit the bullseye. We discover a bounty of information
Speaker 2: about this event. A letter from the word towers occurs
Speaker 2: in the Biblical text to die there. One word that
Speaker 2: shares a letter from both terms twin and towers is oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna How would you even say that word?
Speaker 2: Elani heim elani heeme something don't speak the Hebrew, but sure,
Speaker 2: but that word translates to before their eyes. So when
Speaker 2: this disaster occurred, the eyes of all Americans and the
Speaker 2: entire world was watching it in real time from their
Speaker 2: TV screams. So in the Bible, the way he decoded
Speaker 2: it was that the twin towers literally translates to using
Speaker 2: this process to.
Speaker 3: Die there before their eyes. Isn't that wild? Whoa it says.
Speaker 2: There's more the word matos, which is plain in hip eel,
Speaker 2: which is toppled cross each other, while underneath them is
Speaker 2: the word pama yim, which is twice. There were two
Speaker 2: planes and two buildings. It should be emphasized that the
Speaker 2: word the twins found in this place is the minimal
Speaker 2: sequence that can be found in the Bible, and it
Speaker 2: appears in the Book of Numbers. The word towers is
Speaker 2: the eighth minimal sequence in the Torah and the second
Speaker 2: minimal sequence that appears in the Book of Numbers. The
Speaker 2: word plane is the seventh minimal sequence in the entire
Speaker 2: Torah and the second minimal sequence in the Book of Numbers.
Speaker 2: The word toppled is far from being the minimal sequence,
Speaker 2: but it is highly relevant to the text. Statistical calculations
Speaker 2: show that the likelihood of the words towers converging with
Speaker 2: the twins in the Book of Numbers is one to
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five, between planes and towers about
Speaker 2: one to forty, and between plane and the twins one
Speaker 2: to five hundred. So anyway, I just thought that that
Speaker 2: was interesting. Maybe it's just a weird coincidence that you
Speaker 2: would have, you know, you would have this mathematical equation
Speaker 2: that this guy figured out, and it being like, what
Speaker 2: was it the people dying before their eyes?
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's me. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's just a coincidental kind of thing,
Speaker 2: but I thought, Hey, if we're getting a called up
Speaker 2: in here, let's start piecing some things together.
Speaker 5: There's absolutely a lot of symbolism and potentially occult things
Speaker 5: about nine to eleven. Don't get me wrong, but Chris,
Speaker 5: it correct me from wrong. In the realm of journalism
Speaker 5: that you were mostly involved with it, it was more
Speaker 5: of the geopolitical, or at least the not even geopolitical,
Speaker 5: but even the American political world. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 5: what kind of fallout, especially now looking at things twenty
Speaker 5: years twenty five years past tense, what kind of geopolitical
Speaker 5: fallout can you really all point back to nine to eleven?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: So, obviously the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan got that
Speaker 5: one hundred percent, but there was a lot more fallout
Speaker 5: in ways that I feel like a lot of the
Speaker 5: public don't really recognize.
Speaker 4: Well, the main point of the exercise, the spectacle of
Speaker 4: nine to eleven was to was to get Americans enraged
Speaker 4: with is the Islamic world, and to blame the Muslims
Speaker 4: for the attacks on the World Trade Center first, and
Speaker 4: then to wage war against them, and to you know,
Speaker 4: continue to wage war, to bring the US military into
Speaker 4: the Middle East on a permanent basis, and get it
Speaker 4: to wage war against anybody who was seen to be
Speaker 4: challenging Israel. And we have that now in spades, you know,
Speaker 4: with the every day we read about another American bombing
Speaker 4: of Iran or uh yeahmen, particularly now Syria. You know,
Speaker 4: we we have we have troops occupying countries like Syria
Speaker 4: that we don't even know about. American people don't even
Speaker 4: know about it. It's it's uh there. There are entire
Speaker 4: regions of the of Syria that are just like like
Speaker 4: a circle drawn and said, this is the American zone.
Speaker 4: Nobody goes near there except the Americans, and and and
Speaker 4: this is this is what they've they wanted to get,
Speaker 4: and this is what they succeeded in getting.
Speaker 5: Go a little deeper on that, because Syria is still
Speaker 5: within the realm of uh someone called an open air
Speaker 5: civil war. You know, I'm not exactly a big fan
Speaker 5: of Asad or his regime. I think that he kept
Speaker 5: control his people, but I mean that's not necessarily a
Speaker 5: good thing. And you do have the two Russian massive
Speaker 5: bases that are stationed there, because that's their biggest naval
Speaker 5: port and air base for the entirety of the Mediterranean Sea.
Speaker 5: And I mean, don't get me wrong, got the Kurds
Speaker 5: in the Far East that are trying to, you know,
Speaker 5: start a Kurdistan kind of conversation. But where what do
Speaker 5: you mean as far as American forces in Syria right now?
Speaker 4: Well, there's the junction of the where Jordan Syria and
Speaker 4: let's see what they come together, Iraq, these three countries
Speaker 4: come together in a point on the southern border of
Speaker 4: It's called altant It's and this they've drawn a fifty
Speaker 4: to fifty five kilometer mile radius from the center of
Speaker 4: Al Tanf and made a circle. And that that that
Speaker 4: zone in southern in southern Syria is US controlled zone
Speaker 4: apart from the northeast what you're talking about the Curtis
Speaker 4: zone there. And and the thing is what's what's what's
Speaker 4: peculiar about the whole Syrian thing is that the the
Speaker 4: guy that's running Syria right now, al Jiulani, who was, yeah,
Speaker 4: mister the Goldlani guy. He he was, he was the
Speaker 4: person who brought al Qaeda to Syria. Yeah, And when
Speaker 4: when al Qaida came to Syria, it was interesting that
Speaker 4: they were they they they came in in large numbers
Speaker 4: in these these convoys and at the back of the
Speaker 4: convoy there was an American Apastre helicopter bringing up the
Speaker 4: rear because Isis in these various Islamic groups that were
Speaker 4: fighting against the government to Syria. The Aside Family were
Speaker 4: created by Israel and the United States, and they were
Speaker 4: they were like very much like what they tried to
Speaker 4: do with Hamas that they they created the groups to
Speaker 4: be uh an attack dog for them to provoke wars,
Speaker 4: to to to take down the Assad family. And they're
Speaker 4: still serving, they're still serving the purpose now that the
Speaker 4: big plan, the big plan in the Middle East is
Speaker 4: something called the Greater Israel Plan, and the Greater Israel
Speaker 4: Plan calls for Israel to to occupy this is This
Speaker 4: is from the religious Messianic people in Israel, the right wing.
Speaker 4: They want to re establish the biblical borders of Israel,
Speaker 4: basically from the Euphrates River in in Iraq to the
Speaker 4: Nile River in Egypt, and that that will be the
Speaker 4: that will be the new Israel. And in order to
Speaker 4: do that, they create they they even created Isis and
Speaker 4: they now in the Isis, they created al Qaeda. Al
Speaker 4: Qaeda was created in in Pakistan with Israeli intelligent military
Speaker 4: intelligence training, the training the Arabs. There were there were
Speaker 4: two groups of people in this in this group that
Speaker 4: they were training. There were the Afghan the Pashtuns, the Afghans,
Speaker 4: and there were the they called the Afghan Arabs, who
Speaker 4: were like people like Osam bin Laden. Right, And there's
Speaker 4: there's a book of Charlie Charlie Wilson's War that goes
Speaker 4: into some detail about this, and it's that the Israelis
Speaker 4: were were hired to arm and train these people in
Speaker 4: the in fighting against the Soviets. And that's what they did.
Speaker 4: And and the person who was in charge of this
Speaker 4: training was Ahood Barack. It started in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 5: Yeah, people thought that he was like I heard stories
Speaker 5: that people thought that he was supposed to be the
Speaker 5: Messiah or the coming of Christ and all these things.
Speaker 5: It was. He had a damn near cult following off
Speaker 5: of him.
Speaker 4: Osama Bin Laden, Aho Barack, a Hood Barack, Yeah, Ahood Barrock.
Speaker 4: Ahood Barack plays a big role in all this. He was,
Speaker 4: he was he seems to have been the handler for
Speaker 4: Michael Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein. He visited jeff Epstein's townhouse. He
Speaker 4: was filmed going in and out.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, I'm sorry, I'm getting mixed up.
Speaker 5: Aho Barock was the Prime Minister of Israel. That's right, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of a god. There was another
Speaker 5: guy in the nineties that he was really good friends
Speaker 5: with net and Yahoo, and he was like the rabbi
Speaker 5: of all rabbis, and people thought that he was the
Speaker 5: second coming. I'm mixing up my people. Okay, yeah, no,
Speaker 5: Aho Barock. Yeah, there was pictures of him wearing a
Speaker 5: mask could to try to conceal who he was going
Speaker 5: into and out of Epstein's New York apartment. And it's like, bro,
Speaker 5: you're not gonna You're not gonna hide your identity like that,
Speaker 5: especially after it was understood that he was a pedophile.
Speaker 8: But yeah, yeah, And the strain thing about Awood Barrock
Speaker 8: is that when when he lost the election in early
Speaker 8: two thousand January February two thousand, he lost the election,
Speaker 8: Ario Sharon won.
Speaker 4: Ahood Brock did stay in Israel. He came to America
Speaker 4: and he began working with a company that makes uh
Speaker 4: nanoparticles of metals. Yeah, and and a metal urg in
Speaker 4: in Wayne, Pennsylvania. And he he he this is very
Speaker 4: peculiar that that that a guy would come over and
Speaker 4: start working with metals in the United States. But the
Speaker 4: when you understand nine to eleven, it was the it
Speaker 4: was the most spectacular use of thermatic thermite, nano thermite
Speaker 4: in particular explosives that's ever been seen.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: They they the towers were pulverized with this extremely powerful
Speaker 4: explosive that is is so powerful it's it takes very
Speaker 4: very small amounts of it to have an effect mm hmm.
Speaker 4: And and this is what you know there was they
Speaker 4: also used normal thermite. We we we saw we saw
Speaker 4: in the World Trade Center Building two South tower before
Speaker 4: it fell, for like seven minutes before fell, it was
Speaker 4: a very white hot metal was pouring off the eighty
Speaker 4: second floor at the southeast corner of the building, and
Speaker 4: it's just it just continued to cascade down, the huge
Speaker 4: amounts of metal. And the official report can't really explain it,
Speaker 4: so they call it. They referred to it as aluminum,
Speaker 4: saying that it was the plane had melted up there
Speaker 4: and it was pouring off the building right right. But
Speaker 4: but the thing is is that molten aluminium at that
Speaker 4: temperature has appears to be silverish. The color aluminum is
Speaker 4: usually thought of because of the missive emisific massivity of it. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's not it's not white hot or or yellow hot,
Speaker 4: which this stuff was. Now that what created that? That
Speaker 4: that that's the whole new question, that that was created
Speaker 4: by something some form of that was presumably iron, and
Speaker 4: it was and it was iron, and it was coming
Speaker 4: from massive amounts of thermite. They were on the eighty
Speaker 4: second floor. And you know, it led to me wondering,
Speaker 4: how did this how did this thermite in such large
Speaker 4: amounts if we're talking about regular thermite it's like powder form,
Speaker 4: How did it get on the eighty second floor? And
Speaker 4: I found a guy who worked for the Fuji Bank,
Speaker 4: and Fuji Bank had had its had its computer floor
Speaker 4: on that on that level, and they had received huge batteries,
Speaker 4: huge big black batteries the year before nine to eleven,
Speaker 4: some before nine to eleven, and they said that they
Speaker 4: said the weird thing was they were never plugged in.
Speaker 4: And they weren't plugged in because I, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: this was probably what the where the thermite was being held.
Speaker 5: I'm glad you're bringing this up, and you've done an
Speaker 5: extensive amount of research about the twin towers, the before,
Speaker 5: the after and all the things. I want to bounce
Speaker 5: something off of you and tell me if this holds
Speaker 5: any weight. Right, there is a story that has been
Speaker 5: perpetuated for a while now to say that weeks and
Speaker 5: months leading up to nine to eleven, there was actually
Speaker 5: some bomb threats and some bomb drills, if you will,
Speaker 5: that were being conducted at the World Trade Center where
Speaker 5: they evacuated the building, and they had guys go in
Speaker 5: with dogs and big duffle bags full of stuff. No
Speaker 5: nobody knows what the stuff is, but these were obviously
Speaker 5: you know, officials and bomb squad and whatever, and they
Speaker 5: would have to clear out for the rest of the day.
Speaker 5: And when they were leaving you could see the double
Speaker 5: bags were clearly empty. Right. The theory is that they
Speaker 5: were slowly but surely putting very specific charges at very
Speaker 5: specific parts of the building in the weeks and months
Speaker 5: leading up to nine to eleven. Now, I'm not negating
Speaker 5: the battery conversation, but have you heard anything about these
Speaker 5: bomb threats in the weeks and months leading.
Speaker 4: Up, Not specifically, but I there's been numerous kinds of
Speaker 4: reports like that, like that of you know, energy being
Speaker 4: turned off on the towers on the weekend before for example,
Speaker 4: And and you know another thing is that there. The
Speaker 4: amount of thermite that was needed to be brought into
Speaker 4: the building and the amount of plant regular explosives that
Speaker 4: had to be brought into the building was very large
Speaker 4: and had to be done by a team of men.
Speaker 4: And it would would much of it would be done
Speaker 4: under the cover of night some cases. In some cases
Speaker 4: it was done on empty floors, floors were not occupied
Speaker 4: at the time, like Willie Willie Rodriguez tells us about.
Speaker 4: In other cases it was brought in at night. And
Speaker 4: and this is where we need to have access to
Speaker 4: the files of the of the security cameras on the
Speaker 4: loading dock because because there was you know, the World
Speaker 4: Trade Center was also a huge heightst operation. There was
Speaker 4: massive amounts of gold that were taken out of the
Speaker 4: World Trade Center. One on convoy of trucks was found
Speaker 4: between Building four and five with with gold stacked in
Speaker 4: it in in the in the in the back. But
Speaker 4: they had they had, you know, they had run away,
Speaker 4: They had the people that were driving the trucks had
Speaker 4: had escaped, leaving the trucks stuck there. But in other cases,
Speaker 4: in other cases there were there were there were huge
Speaker 4: amounts of gold that were absconded with.
Speaker 5: So why was there gold at the World Trade Center
Speaker 5: is my question? This, from what I was understood, was
Speaker 5: a place of international business, right, big offices and and
Speaker 5: you know, international corporate level business was being conducted. Why
Speaker 5: would they have a stockpile of gold here.
Speaker 4: To balance trades? You know they in such such a
Speaker 4: world trade center you have to sometimes you know, uh,
Speaker 4: make good on a on a on a on a
Speaker 4: promise or something like that. And and there were there
Speaker 4: were various entities there that kept gold there. There was
Speaker 4: also banks, there were also uh company is that that
Speaker 4: had had all kinds of valuable things there. Then there
Speaker 4: was evidence a lot of evidence from from big big
Speaker 4: financial crimes that were being prosecuted in the and the
Speaker 4: the federal government in building seven, which was the main
Speaker 4: client of c I A FBI. Sure, you know, various
Speaker 4: various senseities like that.
Speaker 5: I couldn't see them seven doing like a legal actions
Speaker 5: against some laundering operations and things like that.
Speaker 4: But they had they had they had no basement in
Speaker 4: buildings in Building seven was not had no basement because
Speaker 4: they had no lower structure. The first two floors were
Speaker 4: so it used building six across the street. And Building
Speaker 4: six was the US Customs Customs building, and they had
Speaker 4: a lot of gold in the basement, and they had
Speaker 4: a lot of evidence in the basement. And what we
Speaker 4: what we learned from the from the Argentinian video videographer
Speaker 4: who went down there. He was given permission by FEMA
Speaker 4: to go everywhere on the site and he went down
Speaker 4: in the basement of building Building six, which was destroyed.
Speaker 4: Building six was blown up. There was a there was
Speaker 4: a crater in the basement that went up through the
Speaker 4: entire six stores of the building. And what he found
Speaker 4: was that the door the vault had been busted, had
Speaker 4: been cracked open, and the he looked inside and the
Speaker 4: vault was empty. So I said, as I said, it
Speaker 4: was a huge heist. It was. It was a crime
Speaker 4: within a crime within a crime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm seeing right here that the tower one of
Speaker 2: the World Trade Center was it had Bank of America
Speaker 2: inside of it, and then Tower two had Morgan Stanley
Speaker 2: inside of it.
Speaker 5: So whenever I'm thinking of Building six, I'm thinking of
Speaker 5: just the two towers and Building seven that went down.
Speaker 5: Building six was also a part of this.
Speaker 4: Building six is a very big part of it. And
Speaker 4: what's what's interesting is that it's you see what happened.
Speaker 4: Was it about the At the very same time that
Speaker 4: Building six was Building two was hit. The second tower
Speaker 4: was hit by the plane. There was at at the
Speaker 4: exact same time, there was an explosion in the basement
Speaker 4: of Buildings six. And this is this is where Donald
Speaker 4: Trump was very it was correct when he said that.
Speaker 4: It appears he said that there were explosives in the
Speaker 4: buildings that were time to go off exactly when the
Speaker 4: building when the planes were hit, when the planes hit,
Speaker 4: And he was right about that. But he hasn't he
Speaker 4: hasn't come, He hasn't talk spoken about it since.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hasn't spoken about a lot of things since, uh,
Speaker 2: since he got re elected.
Speaker 3: This time.
Speaker 2: It almost seems like, I don't know, is it a
Speaker 2: different person? Has he been controlled? It was this the
Speaker 2: plan all along to make us, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: like him, especially those of us within the conspiratorial realm
Speaker 2: that are looking at the world for what it is
Speaker 2: and our government lying to us and all these things,
Speaker 2: like was it all part of the plan or did
Speaker 2: they get them?
Speaker 4: What do you thought? That's that's the whole that's a
Speaker 4: whole nother subject. But what what you know? I think
Speaker 4: like I said before, Epstein is connected with ahood Brock.
Speaker 4: Ayhood Brock is connected with thermite. A wood Brock is
Speaker 4: connecting with nine to one one a hood Brock. You
Speaker 4: know these people, there's a there's a small group of
Speaker 4: Israeli players at the top, most of who have been
Speaker 4: mentioned already Aril Sharon and and and Uh are not Milkhan,
Speaker 4: ayhood Brock and bb Natanyahu. These people are are are
Speaker 4: play key roles and the whole thing. But there are
Speaker 4: other there are many other Israelis involved that that appear
Speaker 4: to have played a key role. For example, if you
Speaker 4: if you're gonna rob the World Trade Center, if you're
Speaker 4: gonna plunder the vaults, that requires many trucks, I mean
Speaker 4: a whole convoy of trucks, right and and and one
Speaker 4: of the things that they stold was evidence. One of
Speaker 4: the things they got out of that building six was
Speaker 4: evidence from from crimes and from huge financial shananigans of
Speaker 4: the George Bush administration to bankrupt Russia. But all this
Speaker 4: had to go someplace. And right across the Hudson River
Speaker 4: from from the World Trade Center, there's an entire city
Speaker 4: block that is is is is moistus moving and Moses
Speaker 4: Moistus storage and Moisha is an Israeli Mosat guy who
Speaker 4: has an entire city block where he stores and moves
Speaker 4: things around. And I believe that that they simply they
Speaker 4: were they were going to just take the tunnel tunnel
Speaker 4: through and come up out of the tunnel and and
Speaker 4: go right into Moises moving. And this guy is now
Speaker 4: he's he's very close with with Nat Yahou and he's
Speaker 4: now Mana. His name is is Mana. He is the
Speaker 4: head of Moisha Moishes. He now is relocated to Miami,
Speaker 4: Florida and is a big, a big player down there
Speaker 4: in the real estate. Well where did where did all
Speaker 4: the money come from? He got it from? From the
Speaker 4: nine to eleven heist, That's my opinion. That's my opinion.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude.
Speaker 2: It just seems like so many people made out on
Speaker 2: this because there was a couple of names that like
Speaker 2: knew that they weren't supposed to be there. Maybe they
Speaker 2: got a message from somebody, or they were supposed to
Speaker 2: be there that day and they decided not to show
Speaker 2: up because maybe they were sick or something like that.
Speaker 4: Well were there were all kinds of people, and in particular,
Speaker 4: there were a lot of Israelis who who used this
Speaker 4: platform called Odigo. Odigo which means in Greek means something
Speaker 4: like I drive. And these these this this this application
Speaker 4: was on their phones and it would it. What happened
Speaker 4: on nine to eleven is that a couple of hours
Speaker 4: before nine eleven happened, before the first plane struck, a
Speaker 4: message went out on the Odigo to all users of
Speaker 4: Odigo not to go to the World Trade Center of
Speaker 4: that day there would be a catastrophe occur and it
Speaker 4: would happen at eight forty five. And the warning was
Speaker 4: specific to the minute. And this was reported in is
Speaker 4: Ready newspapers and American newspapers at the time, but it
Speaker 4: was usually only reported once and not reported again. But
Speaker 4: this is how many people avoided catastrophe that day by
Speaker 4: not going to work.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've never heard that.
Speaker 5: So I had to look this up real quick because
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think back in two thousand and one,
Speaker 5: your cell phones were a thing, absolutely, but not a
Speaker 5: lot of them were. I mean, you had still half
Speaker 5: and half people using like the Nokia brick, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, And like cell phone technology wasn't as
Speaker 5: as prevalent as it was now, but when you said
Speaker 5: it was an application, I'm thinking not many phones had
Speaker 5: apps at that time. However, especially within the business sector,
Speaker 5: Blackberries were all the rage that if you were somebody
Speaker 5: in the business world you had a BlackBerry phone, Blackberries
Speaker 5: absolutely had apps. And I just had to look this up.
Speaker 5: The Odgo Instant Message app was first released December nineteen
Speaker 5: ninety nine by Converse Technology. It was shut down in
Speaker 5: two thousand and four after being acquired by Zero, which,
Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, his a Chinese company. But either way,
Speaker 5: so it was a messaging app that was being used
Speaker 5: at that time. This is before Honestly, even within my
Speaker 5: own recollection, phones didn't really have apps and things like
Speaker 5: that unless it was a phone that was geared to
Speaker 5: do that. And if you think back, BlackBerry's absolutely had that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it says Odego Messenger allowed members to connect to
Speaker 2: other im networks such as ICQ, DAMN Blast from the
Speaker 2: Past with that one, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, and
Speaker 2: AOL Instant Messenger. Odigo was purchased for an estimated twenty
Speaker 2: million twenty million dollars by the Israeli company Converse Wow
Speaker 2: Yeah in two thousand two.
Speaker 5: Then it was sold in two thousand and four to
Speaker 5: z Xenu, where the fuck I just looked up. But yeah, yeah, wow, okay.
Speaker 2: I feel like every single year we're just learning new
Speaker 2: things about this whole nine to eleven thing, and.
Speaker 3: It's there are oh many pieces to this.
Speaker 5: And that will also make sense that they would sell
Speaker 5: it too, because once you sell the app, you also
Speaker 5: sell the servers, which means that you wipe it clean,
Speaker 5: you wash your hands of it. And there's no record
Speaker 5: of any message being sent out the day of September eleventh,
Speaker 5: or at least if there is, it's not associated with
Speaker 5: you anymore. It's from this other company, this other subsidiary,
Speaker 5: whatever else. So that makes sense that they would start
Speaker 5: using it and then get rid of it so quick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was there was some there was some discussion
Speaker 4: in the US media about who sent the message and
Speaker 4: that the FBI went to went to the offices in
Speaker 4: Israel and tried to find that out. But that's the
Speaker 4: and that's that's why we ever heard about Odigo, and
Speaker 4: we didn't hear anything anymore from from about Odigo since then.
Speaker 4: And you know, this was this was clearly how many
Speaker 4: there were there were thousands of Israelis who were expected
Speaker 4: to be at work that day at the World Trade Center,
Speaker 4: and very few died. Something like four people died for
Speaker 4: Israelis died.
Speaker 5: Wow. Which it's also crazy when you think of just
Speaker 5: the amount of Israelis that are living in New York,
Speaker 5: just like on mass that would be affiliated or working
Speaker 5: in and around the World Trade Center, and only four
Speaker 5: of them died. That's that's kind of a red flag
Speaker 5: in and of itself.
Speaker 4: Honestly, well, Odi Goo saved the day for them, so
Speaker 4: I wrote. I wrote extensively about it at the time,
Speaker 4: and then I later wrote a lot about Converse. What
Speaker 4: you're talking about there, the Converse company. Yeah, there, it's
Speaker 4: all it's all tied to Israeli intelligence. It all goes
Speaker 4: back to Unit eight two zero zero in the Negev Desert.
Speaker 4: It's it's you know. And and they they are very good,
Speaker 4: is very good at crafting technology or using technology to
Speaker 4: achieve their ends, like what they did in Lebanon with
Speaker 4: the with the exploding peepers beepers, this was they killed,
Speaker 4: they injured something like they badly injured with thirty five
Speaker 4: hundred black.
Speaker 5: Eyes, which I have to say, like Israel hate Israel,
Speaker 5: whatever you want to say, even if this was Nation
Speaker 5: A against Group B whatever, that in my from my
Speaker 5: research is probably the most successful operation as far as
Speaker 5: UH pinpoint precision strikes on targets I think ever conducted,
Speaker 5: because it wasn't just the bombs. These dudes were using
Speaker 5: those pagers for three or four or five years. They
Speaker 5: were tapped into them, they got all the communications, they
Speaker 5: had trackers on them, they got all the intel they
Speaker 5: needed from them, and these pagers had bombs planted that
Speaker 5: entire time. And then when the time came, hit the
Speaker 5: button and they all went like, I don't think there's
Speaker 5: another spy network on Earth that could even pull that
Speaker 5: kind of operation off.
Speaker 4: No, that's right, that's that's their specialty. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And and the it's the unit that specializes in that
Speaker 4: kind of technology is Unit eight two zero zero. And
Speaker 4: many of the people from A two zero zero, when
Speaker 4: they graduate from their military service there, they come to
Speaker 4: the United States and work with American technology firms in
Speaker 4: Silicon Valley and what have you. And and there's this exchange,
Speaker 4: free exchange of technology between the two countries, often not
Speaker 4: not to our benefit.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Pallenteer.
Speaker 2: You know, we always bring this up with Peter Thiel
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe his hand and getting JD. Vance
Speaker 2: in office, and you know, the whole technology and AI
Speaker 2: center that is exploding obviously, do you think that him
Speaker 2: or that company or anything at all stood to benefit
Speaker 2: from any of this at all.
Speaker 3: I just feel like there's such.
Speaker 2: A wild connection going on between the technological.
Speaker 3: World with AI and the world that's to come.
Speaker 2: But I almost want under if like maybe nine to
Speaker 2: eleven set that off and it set us in that direction,
Speaker 2: you know, just with you know, what was it the
Speaker 2: Patriot Act, which was allowing basically our world or our
Speaker 2: country to spy on us everything that was going on
Speaker 2: with the airports, which by the way, they just said
Speaker 2: that you don't have to take your shoes off at
Speaker 2: airports anymore.
Speaker 3: So that's pretty cool. Uh good?
Speaker 2: But you know, what are what are your thoughts on
Speaker 2: that as far as just surveillance goes. Do you think
Speaker 2: that this was kind of like a setup for this
Speaker 2: world to come?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, I don't I don't know about that,
Speaker 4: but I do know that the drone technology that was
Speaker 4: used on nine to eleven was very uh pioneering. You know,
Speaker 4: it was a pioneering use of drones to to to
Speaker 4: fly tanker aircraft seven sixty sevens what have you into
Speaker 4: the World Trade Center and you believe.
Speaker 5: They were drone pilot and not pilot by the quote
Speaker 5: unquote guilty parties.
Speaker 4: No they were I believe they were drone aircraft. Okay,
Speaker 4: And now we see entire wars being fought by drones,
Speaker 4: like in Ukraine.
Speaker 5: We were just talking about this last night. As a
Speaker 5: matter of fact, the drone technology, like for instance, the
Speaker 5: Predator drone, which especially in the Gwatt era wars, that
Speaker 5: was seen as at least to what we were willing
Speaker 5: to disclose the public, the pinnacle of drone technology at
Speaker 5: the time. These things were shaped like planes. They weren't
Speaker 5: the size of full sized planes or anything. But you know,
Speaker 5: it could be the eye in the sky, maybe they
Speaker 5: could drop some ordnance, whatever the case was. As time progressed,
Speaker 5: they got better at these things. Yes, but the style
Speaker 5: of drones that are primarily being used in Ukraine and
Speaker 5: around the world right now is a far cry away
Speaker 5: from the predator drones that we had in the early
Speaker 5: two thousands. But that being said, that Predator drone was
Speaker 5: test flown and all these things in the mid nineties,
Speaker 5: so by the late nineties they had a very good
Speaker 5: working understanding of how to make a drone do what
Speaker 5: they wanted one hundred percent right.
Speaker 4: They also had Global Hawk, which was based in Right
Speaker 4: Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. And I remember when
Speaker 4: I was doing this research because there was a piece
Speaker 4: of a jet engine that was found at the Pentagon.
Speaker 4: Yeah that was not which was about about three feet
Speaker 4: in diameter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know how many people have seen how
Speaker 5: many people listening have ever flown on a Boeing plane
Speaker 5: before and seen the size of these turbanes. But then
Speaker 5: look at the size of those turbans, you could probably
Speaker 5: much stand up inside of it a full grown man.
Speaker 5: Then go back and look at the turbine fan that
Speaker 5: they found outside of the Pentagon. It's possibly the size
Speaker 5: of the rim of your car. It's not even a Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's ridiculous yoke.
Speaker 4: Right. So I was wondering if it was a Global
Speaker 4: Hawk because I was kind of fascinated by Global Hawk technology.
Speaker 4: And I called the people that made the Global Hawk
Speaker 4: and that operated it, and they told me that the
Speaker 4: numbers that they had and they said that there were
Speaker 4: two were missing. Two have gone missing, and they couldn't
Speaker 4: tell me where those two went missing. But those two
Speaker 4: may have gone missing on nine to eleven because the
Speaker 4: plane that struck the Pentagon was clearly not a not
Speaker 4: a Boeing seven sixty seven. And what happened in Pennsylvania
Speaker 4: is very odd. But we don't find any evidence of
Speaker 4: a BOT six seven in Pennsylvania either, So those might
Speaker 4: have been those might have been operations done by with
Speaker 4: a Global Hawk or some other some other form of
Speaker 4: drone technology whow missing. But but but the one of
Speaker 4: the one of the things that's very very clear anybody
Speaker 4: can see with their own eyes is that when the
Speaker 4: planes struck North Tower and South Tower, there was a
Speaker 4: flash just before the plane struck the tower. There was
Speaker 4: a flash in both cases, and Building two. South Tower
Speaker 4: was much clearer because there are more cameras trained on
Speaker 4: the on the tower, that something on the bottom of
Speaker 4: the plane was projected a white flash, flashing object flash
Speaker 4: flashed from beneath the bottom of the plane and went
Speaker 4: and went faster than the plane into the building. And
Speaker 4: there's photographs from the Deutsche I think it's from the
Speaker 4: Deutsche Deutsche Deutsche Bella or whatever. The German the German
Speaker 4: news agency has very good footage and shows that that
Speaker 4: the bottom of the thing, that the white thing on
Speaker 4: the bottom of the plane, just as it hit the
Speaker 4: just as it hit the wall of the south tower,
Speaker 4: it illuminated it. It was illuminated the entirely a huge,
Speaker 4: a huge like twenty foot wide, twenty foot diameter circle.
Speaker 4: And and you can see that the nose of the
Speaker 4: plane has not yet touched touched the building. So what
Speaker 4: I think is this is getting a little bit technical,
Speaker 4: but I think it was the plasma from a from
Speaker 4: a missile was fired. A missile was fired from the
Speaker 4: from a from a pendent a pod on the bottom
Speaker 4: of the plane, and the purpose of these of these
Speaker 4: missiles were to hit the building where to open a
Speaker 4: hole in the building. Because the cell power was very
Speaker 4: very strongly built, even the exterior walls were very strongly built.
Speaker 4: They had they had these on two foot center, they
Speaker 4: had they had these these steel beams, and they had
Speaker 4: concrete floors. Obviously, and it would a normal plane striking
Speaker 4: such a dense construction would would demolish something on the outside.
Speaker 4: But we don't see this. We see the plane entering
Speaker 4: the building because these these these missiles opened up a
Speaker 4: hole allowing the fuselage to enter with no problem because
Speaker 4: the hole was open, and it was it was I said, well,
Speaker 4: I said, well, if this is like like Davon Klisse
Speaker 4: in Plain Sight video, he talks about this this object,
Speaker 4: this missile seen on the bottom of the plane, And
Speaker 4: I said, well, if if a missile hit the if
Speaker 4: a missile hit the hit the it must have come
Speaker 4: out the other side, because it would be something like
Speaker 4: a depleted uranium warhead or tungsten warhead. And sure enough,
Speaker 4: if you look at the South tower being hit, you'll
Speaker 4: see coming out faster on the on the far side
Speaker 4: of the building, faster than the plane is coming out.
Speaker 4: You see this white hot object, white hot burning object,
Speaker 4: leaving behind a dark black, dark sooty smoke. That's what
Speaker 4: that's what that's what depleted uranium does. My burns. And
Speaker 4: so that's what I think happened, is that that the
Speaker 4: planes were drone technology, and that missiles were used to
Speaker 4: open a hole. And and when when when depleted uranium
Speaker 4: hits the air, it's pyrophoric, it burns in air, and
Speaker 4: it's extremely hot. There's like four thousand degrees celsia something
Speaker 4: like that. It's burning white hot, and so that on
Speaker 4: that floor, for example, where Fuji Bank had, it's all
Speaker 4: those computer batteries stored. When when that missile goes through
Speaker 4: that floor, it will it will ignite all those combustibles
Speaker 4: that have been placed on the floor before. And that's
Speaker 4: where we get this very strange explosions. If you look
Speaker 4: at the explosions of Building one and Building two, North
Speaker 4: Town or South Tower, you see a huge explosion coming
Speaker 4: out of the south face when the plane struck, explosion
Speaker 4: coming out from that side, and a great deal of
Speaker 4: white smoke. These are all indicative of explosions, and in
Speaker 4: particular uranium and thermite.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: And I mean, of course, the official narrative would be that, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, that was just the blast from the jet
Speaker 5: fuel igniting blasting out the other side of the building.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is, the thing is that you can
Speaker 4: see the jet fuel igniting, for example, in the South Tower,
Speaker 4: it comes out, it comes out the it comes out
Speaker 4: of the three o'clock side and at one o'clock and
Speaker 4: and it's burning, it's burning yellow, deep yellow, with leaving
Speaker 4: black smoke. Right, This is this is what you get
Speaker 4: when you when you when you burn massive amounts of
Speaker 4: kerosene are ignited when jet fuel burns in a yet
Speaker 4: large amount. And and but on the other side of
Speaker 4: the building, you see, for example, on the North tower
Speaker 4: on the at the at the the plane is coming
Speaker 4: in at about the eleven o'clock ten o'clock, you get
Speaker 4: this huge burst of white, bright, white smoke coming out.
Speaker 4: And that is not that's not concrete, that's not gypsum,
Speaker 4: that's not that's not that that that that it must
Speaker 4: be some thermite that's going off leaving behind the white smoke.
Speaker 4: Because when thermite, when thermite burns, it leaves very very
Speaker 4: dependable characteristics. It leaves behind it oxidizes the metal. So
Speaker 4: the metal that was used, like in this case is
Speaker 4: is ferrous oxide. It leaves behind metal iron or steel iron,
Speaker 4: and the aluminum turns into aluminoxide. And it's a smoke.
Speaker 4: It's a white smoke. And that's what we see. And
Speaker 4: they people talk about how that these explosions that occurred
Speaker 4: when the planes struck the North Tower or South Tower
Speaker 4: have never been analyzed. Nothing was analyzed. We know nothing
Speaker 4: with analyzed by and by Nister any other people they said,
Speaker 4: they lied to their teeth and they got away with it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately that's with the powers that be.
Speaker 2: Of course, there's not going to be a whole lot
Speaker 2: of looking into something because they were the ones that
Speaker 2: set it up. Anyway, at least they could give us
Speaker 2: the facade that they're looking into it and not make
Speaker 2: it seem that they're so damn guilty.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's the same with the Epstein files, right like,
Speaker 5: at least make it seem like you're trying to do
Speaker 5: your due diligence, not just come out and say, up,
Speaker 5: it's all a big liberal hoax. And there is no files,
Speaker 5: There is no flight logs. He didn't even he didn't
Speaker 5: even have a plane. Did he even have an island?
Speaker 5: Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Now, you just
Speaker 5: saw that all the survivors of Epstein and all of
Speaker 5: his shit have come together. They just met at the
Speaker 5: Capitol Building yesterday. They're compiling their own list. There is
Speaker 5: upwards there's a few hundred, but I've heard reports of
Speaker 5: close to one thousand women who were survivors of Epstein
Speaker 5: and Maxwell shit. And they have basically told the government, listen,
Speaker 5: if you're not going to release the list. We're going
Speaker 5: to compile our own list from our eyewitness testimonies and
Speaker 5: we'll release it and we'll just see where the chips
Speaker 5: fall on the involved this shit. I am so in
Speaker 5: favor of this, but that's the point. Well, could you
Speaker 5: at least make it appear like you give a shit
Speaker 5: about the people that were affected by this? But you know,
Speaker 5: the government, man, they gotta did not do, not deny
Speaker 5: and make counter accusations. Look over here and not over there.
Speaker 5: That's that's the old song and dance.
Speaker 4: You know. This is why this is why so many
Speaker 4: people in the government are so pro Israel. Even though
Speaker 4: they received maybe ten twenty thousand dollars from APEC. That's
Speaker 4: not a lot of money. That's not reason to sell yourself.
Speaker 4: But when when they.
Speaker 5: Had had in the lobbying world, it's not no way.
Speaker 5: Big tobacco pays out way more than that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the biggest recipients of a PAC money was recently
Speaker 4: is still Joe Biden. Joe Biden's got some of my
Speaker 4: four million or six million dollars from from APEX all.
Speaker 5: Keep him mind, he's been in politics for the better
Speaker 5: part of three decades. He had time to let that accrue,
Speaker 5: you know, but yes to that point.
Speaker 4: But the thing is that what the pictures they have,
Speaker 4: the information they have on these people, what they got
Speaker 4: these people to do is unspeakable. And and that's what
Speaker 4: that's what they're really afraid of, is having Beneficent should
Speaker 4: come out. And I'm sure that this was an Israeli operation.
Speaker 4: That's the only thing that explains. You know, one thing
Speaker 4: you have to understand about Epstein is that Epstein was
Speaker 4: using money that he got from a guy named less
Speaker 4: les Vexner. Yeah, let's leslie Vexner in Ohio.
Speaker 5: The founder of Victoria's Secret Yeah.
Speaker 4: Most notably Victoria's Secret Limited, you know, Beth bed Beyond whatever,
Speaker 4: some companies like that. But he, he, he, what he did,
Speaker 4: he turned over his entire egg basket, all of his
Speaker 4: money he turned over to Jeffrey Epstein to manage. And
Speaker 4: now what's what's peculiar about this is that Jeffrey les
Speaker 4: Wexner was the founder of something called Mega, not Mega, Mega,
Speaker 4: n Ega and Mega. I think they had this plan too.
Speaker 4: Mega was created by Israel during the time of Shamir
Speaker 4: just after the First Gulf War in nineteen nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 4: they had the first Golf War, and and then then
Speaker 4: they had this Madrid conference and there was Essak Shamir
Speaker 4: and Rio Charon and these characters were there, and Nata
Speaker 4: Yahu was there, was there their spokesman, their main guy, right,
Speaker 4: and and they decided that they needed help. And what
Speaker 4: happened was that George Bush, President George Bush, had had
Speaker 4: denied Israel ten billion dollars ten billion dollars in loan
Speaker 4: guarantees for settlements in the West Bank.
Speaker 5: We're talking about hw or W Papa Bush at early nineties, Yeah, gotcha, Yeah, And.
Speaker 4: He had turned down he had turned down Shamir's request
Speaker 4: for ten billion dollars in loan guarantees. And Shamir said,
Speaker 4: we need, we need to go around these people like
Speaker 4: the Bush. We need, we need our own power in America.
Speaker 4: And they created they created this thing called Mega being huge,
Speaker 4: using people like Ronfman, created by Les Exner and a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of people like that. Aren't louder? These these
Speaker 4: these Jewish billionaires who were willing to give their money
Speaker 4: to help Israel. And let's Les Vexner was the one
Speaker 4: who gave the money to Epstein. And this is where
Speaker 4: this is where you say that the Epstein operation was
Speaker 4: clearly Israeli into nobody else.
Speaker 5: Well, it also makes sense because Epstein was the money
Speaker 5: laundering kingpin of the wealthy elites of the world. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: it clearly ties to Wexner, clearly ties to I mean,
Speaker 5: name your fortune five hundred CEO of the past two decades.
Speaker 5: I promise you they had Epstein's number. Now, I'm not
Speaker 5: saying that they made their way to his island, every
Speaker 5: single one of them. But in the business world, if
Speaker 5: you needed two billion dollars to go off record and
Speaker 5: not get text on it, you call jeff That was
Speaker 5: an understood fact. So whenever you have these big corporate entities,
Speaker 5: big international entities that are trying to get that done
Speaker 5: as well, yeah, Jeffrey Epstein is absolutely your guy. And
Speaker 5: then you tie in all the Mussac connections through Maxwell
Speaker 5: and through her dad, and you can clearly see that
Speaker 5: this was Yes, it was a money laundering operation, and
Speaker 5: yes it was a blackmail operation, but this was it
Speaker 5: wasn't just one thing. It seemed to be an all encompassing,
Speaker 5: just grease ball of everything bad, of what's wrong with
Speaker 5: the world today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was it was it was Mega.
Speaker 4: It was Mega, Yeah, it was. There was a funding
Speaker 4: the funding arm of Mega, and and that's where they
Speaker 4: got their huge amounts of money to do the things
Speaker 4: that they did. And uh, that's that's where we are.
Speaker 5: Wow. So let me ask you this, as we're talking
Speaker 5: about the fallout of nine to eleven and the fallout
Speaker 5: of Epstein, the fallout of Mega and all these things,
Speaker 5: who do you think or what entity rather do you
Speaker 5: think is going to fill this power vacuum next? Because
Speaker 5: there's got to be somebody along under the money. There's
Speaker 5: got to be somebody to do the blackmail operations for
Speaker 5: the elites. And it's probably a name that most people
Speaker 5: on Earth right now have never heard of. The same
Speaker 5: way in twenty ten, nobody knew who Epstein was, or
Speaker 5: not the general public anyway. The wealthy elites and the
Speaker 5: ship bags of the world, they knew who he was.
Speaker 5: But if nobody else really knew anything about this guy,
Speaker 5: who or what group do you think is the new
Speaker 5: grease ball of the world as far as to this level.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know who's going to replace Epstein. I
Speaker 4: don't know if he's been replaced yet. I don't know
Speaker 4: if he's still around it, but well.
Speaker 5: I mean the needs of God to get met. Right.
Speaker 5: It's the same as if you take out a drug
Speaker 5: king pin, another one's gonna rise. The vacuum will get filled.
Speaker 5: That's what I mean by that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure who's going to
Speaker 4: replace it, but it'll certainly be an Israeli entity. I mean,
Speaker 4: what we're seeing now, it's alarming how Israel is committing
Speaker 4: major war crimes on a daily basis, and the Western
Speaker 4: world is unable to raise the slightest resistance to it.
Speaker 4: You know that what Israel is doing today, you know,
Speaker 4: it's they've done it before. I'm amazed how many people
Speaker 4: you know, don't remember Lebanon in eighty two, but I
Speaker 4: mean that's been a while. Yeah, they did. They did
Speaker 4: the exact same thing in Lebanon eighty two. They killed
Speaker 4: twenty thousand people in a few weeks. They committed massacres
Speaker 4: in Sabaran Schatila that were horrible. They were they they
Speaker 4: they destroyed and the one one probability they destroyed high
Speaker 4: rise tower with five hundred, five hundred units in it.
Speaker 4: They destroyed the entire thing because one one office was
Speaker 4: rented by ploy So this is this is, this is
Speaker 4: and and you know the thing is is that people
Speaker 4: when when when this thing happened on October October seventh,
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, the first question Israeli question questions
Speaker 4: would ask was do you do you condemn Hamas? Do
Speaker 4: you condemn Hammas? Because if you, if you, if you
Speaker 4: agreed to that, then if you agreed to the next
Speaker 4: step that Israe has right to self defense, then you
Speaker 4: were lost. You had no no, nothing to argue anymore.
Speaker 4: But there's a couple important things to notice about this
Speaker 4: is that first of all, Israel has no right of
Speaker 4: self defense and occupied territory, that's international law. The occupying
Speaker 4: power has no right of self's defense, cannot expect self defense,
Speaker 4: and the Palestinians who are occupied for decades and decades
Speaker 4: have the right to resist using military force. And then thirdly,
Speaker 4: we know that Hamas has been funded by Israel for
Speaker 4: a long time. Natayau specifically billions of dollars were to
Speaker 4: is given to Hamas.
Speaker 5: But they've also been funded by Iran for a long
Speaker 5: time as well. It's not like they were just taking
Speaker 5: handouts from one group. They were taking handouts from anybody
Speaker 5: who would give them.
Speaker 4: Well, they got a lot of money from Israel, and
Speaker 4: that was done for specific purpose, because they wanted to
Speaker 4: weaken the power of the palicitian authority on the West Bank.
Speaker 4: So they wanted to create this, They wanted to create
Speaker 4: this antithesis between between Hamas, and it worked very well,
Speaker 4: and so that that gives them a reason to wage war.
Speaker 4: And so that when when you when you have this
Speaker 4: nasty group like ISIS or al Qaeda or in this
Speaker 4: case Hamas, and they do something outrageous, then then Israel
Speaker 4: takes by itself the rights, go in and wipe them
Speaker 4: all out, which is.
Speaker 5: What they're which is what they're doing, which is essentially
Speaker 5: what we did with al Qaeda. I mean, we created them.
Speaker 5: But back when we did, they called themselves the muja Hadeen,
Speaker 5: and we were using them to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan,
Speaker 5: and our Cia asset, tim Osman that we would now
Speaker 5: call Osama bin Laden was our point of contact over there,
Speaker 5: and then we created our own boogeyman so that we
Speaker 5: could find a reason to go back over there for
Speaker 5: our own purposes. To your point, Obama did the exact
Speaker 5: same thing he created isol which now we would call ISIS,
Speaker 5: which another reason why America started working with al Qaeda
Speaker 5: was because ISIS and al Qaeda we're on opposite ends
Speaker 5: of the lack of better words, it's called the terrorist spectrum. Yes,
Speaker 5: they are both of the Islamic faith, but on very
Speaker 5: different sects and beliefs of it. So then again it
Speaker 5: became the enemy of my enemy conversation. It's it's a
Speaker 5: tried and true tactic that multiple leaders around the world
Speaker 5: have done for quite some time.
Speaker 4: And a lot of these characters that come to head
Speaker 4: these units ISIS and of Julani, for example, spent years
Speaker 4: in American prisons in Iraq or elsewhere. Where they were
Speaker 4: where they were where they were cultivated and trained, you know,
Speaker 4: to to to do what they do. And that's why
Speaker 4: we see the situation in Syria, for example, looking working
Speaker 4: out to be a situation where Israel is occupying the
Speaker 4: southern part and it will soon occupy all of southern
Speaker 4: leban southern Syria from Damascus south to the border.
Speaker 5: Do you think that that's what they're going to push for.
Speaker 5: I've heard conflicting reports. Not got to be honest, I
Speaker 5: don't know how to feel on it. I don't know
Speaker 5: what the overarching theme is. I've heard some say that
Speaker 5: they were sending rockets to Damascus to dissuade potential threats
Speaker 5: from making its way into Israel because of all the conflicts.
Speaker 5: Then I've heard some say that they are absolutely about
Speaker 5: to invade and take Damascus. You believe, from what you
Speaker 5: just said, from understanding you right, you believe that Israel
Speaker 5: is about to invade Syria and take all the way
Speaker 5: to Damascus.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think they up to Damascus. I don't
Speaker 4: think they would try to take Damascus at this point.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: What what they're what they're certainly very interested in is
Speaker 4: the water.
Speaker 5: They were talking about this big buffer zone that they
Speaker 5: were going to put up there. It was a few,
Speaker 5: it was a ten kilometers or something, but then I've
Speaker 5: heard fifty, and then I've heard you hear these numbers
Speaker 5: get thrown out arbitrarily.
Speaker 4: But the main zone they want to occupy and control
Speaker 4: is South Lebanon up until the La Tiny River because
Speaker 4: they want to get the water from Latini River. Because
Speaker 4: the main, the main cause of conflict in Belicese has
Speaker 4: always been water. So if they can, if they can
Speaker 4: get the Latini River, even have to go a little
Speaker 4: higher to the river further north. They will, they will
Speaker 4: take care of a lot of their water problems. And
Speaker 4: but they will, they will deprive their enemy of water
Speaker 4: and soft Lebanon.
Speaker 5: It kills me how easy it is to make a
Speaker 5: desalinization plant and just take the Mediterranean sea water and
Speaker 5: desultify it, for lack of better words, and then make
Speaker 5: it clean drinking water. That would alleviate all of these things.
Speaker 5: We have the technology osmosis technology has been around for
Speaker 5: quite some time. It's used in heavy industry to scale.
Speaker 5: They could just do that and solve it all. But
Speaker 5: somehow this is clearly the better option. I guess I don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah anyway, Yeah, well, they they want, they want to
Speaker 4: they want more land, they want southern Lebanon, they want
Speaker 4: southern Syria and Damascus would be a very large fish
Speaker 4: to swallow. But I would put anything past what these
Speaker 4: guys are doing in the Israeli government. Now. The Natanyahu
Speaker 4: is a fanatic. He's a messianic fanatic, and he uses
Speaker 4: he uses these other two characters, Bengavir and Smote Rich
Speaker 4: as foils. They're the ones who get the lightning because
Speaker 4: it's they are only saying what he believes himself.
Speaker 5: Now, let me ask you this, you still stay pretty
Speaker 5: well with your finger on the pulse of the situation.
Speaker 5: From what I can tell, I have heard reports, and
Speaker 5: it depends on which source you read, right, it's the
Speaker 5: same in America. Is Trump doing well in the polls
Speaker 5: right now with his current policy? One news source will
Speaker 5: tell you he is the most loved president ever, and
Speaker 5: the other source will tell you that the people are
Speaker 5: on the verge of revolts right Net and Yahoo. From
Speaker 5: what you've heard, I have heard conflicting reports. There are
Speaker 5: those that are glorifying him as like the Supreme Leader
Speaker 5: and like because of them, Israel is going to enter
Speaker 5: a new golden age. I've also heard reports saying that
Speaker 5: the Israeli people are on the verge of an absolute
Speaker 5: revolt and a possible coup if he continues in the
Speaker 5: way that he's doing. What have you heard on your
Speaker 5: side of things?
Speaker 4: Well, I think that uh, he has he has most
Speaker 4: most Israelis are behind him.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: The thing is that is the Israel has changed great deal.
Speaker 4: Demographics of Israel changed great deal in the last few
Speaker 4: a few decades. Sure, and it's it's become, it's become
Speaker 4: much more right wing. For the first thirty years or
Speaker 4: so of Israel's history, it was a labor government all
Speaker 4: the time. In nineties, in nineteen seventy seven, Rabin I
Speaker 4: mean began, Menica began won, the Liquid Party won. And
Speaker 4: what what what Americans don't understand enough is that the
Speaker 4: party that that Menica began and Natanya, who come from
Speaker 4: the Liquid Party, was created by You're Gunn. You're Gunn
Speaker 4: was a militia, a terrorist gang. They created did things
Speaker 4: like bomb the King David Hotel and the When these
Speaker 4: people came to power in nineteen seventy seven, the first
Speaker 4: thing that they did was planning on taking South Lebanon
Speaker 4: because the mission, the mission of the ear Gun and
Speaker 4: the Liquid is greater Israel. It's one of their emblems
Speaker 4: is this outline of the map of the Middle East
Speaker 4: with all these territories occupied. So this occupation of South
Speaker 4: Lebanon and even even Cyprus and Syria, this is the
Speaker 4: game plan. And if you understand that, then you can
Speaker 4: understand why Natanyahu has no interest at all in getting
Speaker 4: peace with the Palestinians. He's hell bent on kicking him
Speaker 4: all out.
Speaker 5: There's still pockets of like far left and liberal now
Speaker 5: I want to say left right, but yeah, like far
Speaker 5: liberal ideas. I mean, you still have Tel Aviv right,
Speaker 5: you still have the big cities where it's absolutely more
Speaker 5: of the left leaning in liberal ideologies. But yeah, to
Speaker 5: your point, I would say that the far right, if
Speaker 5: not just all all encompassing right side of things, have
Speaker 5: ran Israel for quite some time. But I mean that's
Speaker 5: not just because a militia guy rises to or a
Speaker 5: former militia guy excuse me, rises to the political party
Speaker 5: that takes power, that doesn't necessarily mean that it goes
Speaker 5: into a far right kind of state. I mean, look
Speaker 5: at Ireland. Right, you have the IRA that was the
Speaker 5: fanatics and the terrorist group by some they are now
Speaker 5: called shin Fein, and they are becoming more and more
Speaker 5: popular on the political side of things, but they're going
Speaker 5: more liberal and socialists by their ideologies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there were there were three militias that were
Speaker 4: fighting in Palestine in the in the early forties. It
Speaker 4: was the Haganah, Lehi Stengang and the ear Glenn. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and when when Israel, when Israel became a state, there
Speaker 4: these three entities were folded into the entity became known
Speaker 4: as that Israel Defense Forces. Yeah, the idea they became,
Speaker 4: they became the idef and and their their ideology went
Speaker 4: with them. They did, you know it, the the idea
Speaker 4: that Israel has been would be a more mellow place,
Speaker 4: a more kind place, if the Labor Party was in power.
Speaker 4: The evidence doesn't beare that out when they've been when
Speaker 4: they've been in power, they're they're somewhat more amenable to
Speaker 4: negotiations and peace with the carousecenes. But they did terrible
Speaker 4: things too well.
Speaker 5: I mean, Israel's been attacked how many times by their neighbors.
Speaker 5: I mean, hell, look at the Sixth Day War that
Speaker 5: this took place. And then, yeah, I think that a
Speaker 5: lot of those leftist ideologies kind of went by the wayside,
Speaker 5: and they realized that they needed to become a military
Speaker 5: powerhouse because they're surrounded on all sides by people who
Speaker 5: want them exterminated. So it would make sense that you
Speaker 5: would have fanatics, for lack of better words, take over
Speaker 5: their military side.
Speaker 4: You have to do a careful reading of the Sixth
Speaker 4: Day War to understand that the real causation of the
Speaker 4: conflict and who and who, and who bombed who first,
Speaker 4: and who wiped out, who's the air force first, and whatnot.
Speaker 4: It's not as simple as the Arabs attacking Israel in
Speaker 4: sixty seven, for sure, not in seventy three. In seventy
Speaker 4: three there was that that was the kind of ward
Speaker 4: they were fighting, but that's fair. Yeah, in sixty seven,
Speaker 4: there's there's one incident that's very particular is the attack
Speaker 4: on the USS Celebrity in June of sixty seven, when
Speaker 4: these American spy vessel was in international water, very much
Speaker 4: like these flotilla's going to Gaza now. It was an
Speaker 4: international water off the coast, off the coast of Egypt,
Speaker 4: and it was attacked by Israeli Israeli warplanes that were disguised,
Speaker 4: and they killed thirty four Americans and injured somewhere one
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy three Americans. They intended for the ship
Speaker 4: to be sunk to and put down a bomb of
Speaker 4: the ocean. But what's most important is that rather recently
Speaker 4: it's been proven that the Israelis knew full well that
Speaker 4: it was in his American ship, and we're told to
Speaker 4: go ahead and to sink it. This was meant to
Speaker 4: be done as a as a false flag attack probably,
Speaker 4: and then blame would have gone to Egypt and they
Speaker 4: would have brought they would have brought America into the
Speaker 4: into the war fighting against Egypt, which is what Israel wanted.
Speaker 4: But that didn't happen because of the because of Johnson
Speaker 4: called the ship, called the planes back, and and it's
Speaker 4: a very interesting history there that who Johnson was spending
Speaker 4: the night with the night before that attack happened. He
Speaker 4: was was the wife of of an ear gun of
Speaker 4: a big, big shot ere gun guy, and she she
Speaker 4: was the handler for LBJ.
Speaker 5: I think that also if because America was still involved
Speaker 5: in the Vietnam War at that time and we had
Speaker 5: an entire warfront going on in Southeast Asia, it would
Speaker 5: have been which was not a popular war at that time. Either.
Speaker 5: I should mention the American public were sick of sending
Speaker 5: their their sons to go and die in a jungle
Speaker 5: that we had no business being in. I think it
Speaker 5: would have been a very very tough sale for LBJ
Speaker 5: to also say, Hey, not only we're going to fight
Speaker 5: in Vietnam, we're also going to go fight in Egypt.
Speaker 5: I feel like the people might have actually shit a
Speaker 5: live chicken. If he would have tried to say that
Speaker 5: on the mic, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, he had no intention of doing that, but
Speaker 4: it was, it was. It was. Another example is a
Speaker 4: good example of an Israeli false flag attack on us,
Speaker 4: on US military in this case, in order to achieve
Speaker 4: a strategic goal. And and so that nine one one
Speaker 4: is not is not unexpected from such an enemy. In fact,
Speaker 4: it was. It was a couple of days before nine
Speaker 4: to eleven that the American military came out with a
Speaker 4: warning about the capabilities of Mossad, saying that the Israelis
Speaker 4: were very cunning and this and that, and they were
Speaker 4: they were they were capable of carrying out an attack
Speaker 4: against US military.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they absolutely are. I've had to have this
Speaker 5: conversation with so many people when it comes to the
Speaker 5: UH was October sixth? Is that the date that lives
Speaker 5: in infamy? There?
Speaker 4: October seventh, seventh?
Speaker 5: Excuse me, I forget the day, but yeah, the day
Speaker 5: where Hamas took all the hostages and all the things
Speaker 5: that kickstarted this whole situation. I have had to have
Speaker 5: this conversation with people that all right, is Moussad the
Speaker 5: best intelligence agency on Earth or not, like just flat out,
Speaker 5: let's just have that conversation. And anybody who knows how
Speaker 5: this world works will tell you that if Moussad is
Speaker 5: not the best on Earth, then they are like it's
Speaker 5: a tie for first between them and another party or something.
Speaker 5: And that's it's clear.
Speaker 4: It's clear. It's clear that the Israeli military had warnings
Speaker 4: from their from their advanced advanced scouts that the Hamas
Speaker 4: is planning to do such an attack.
Speaker 5: There's no way they missed it. There's no possible way
Speaker 5: that they missed. The amassing of troops and weapons and
Speaker 5: resources and all these things for weeks and weeks leading
Speaker 5: up to the attack, and on the day it was
Speaker 5: to go down, they just missed their pants down.
Speaker 4: They let it happen on purpose, exactly. But but what
Speaker 4: what's what's most important to understand about that attack on
Speaker 4: October seventh is that a huge number of the of
Speaker 4: the of the casualties were caused by Israeli helicopters and tanks.
Speaker 4: Israeli helicopters were hovering over and firing missiles down and
Speaker 4: the cars Willie Nelly shooting every car that was going
Speaker 4: in the direction of Egypt of Gaza, and and they
Speaker 4: and they let they left these cars out in the
Speaker 4: field all piled up, and they had they all had
Speaker 4: neat holes right in the middle of the of the roof,
Speaker 4: and and you know, there was there was an Israeli
Speaker 4: woman who was was a survivor who talked about on
Speaker 4: with Israeli radio and Hebrew about what happened. And she
Speaker 4: said that, you know, we were inside the house and
Speaker 4: and Israeli tank came along and and fired fired missus
Speaker 4: addison and the interrogator aster, you know, is really really
Speaker 4: fire And she said, she said, yes, one hundred percent,
Speaker 4: they shot They shot us all and it happened many
Speaker 4: many places, but this was not ever reported in the
Speaker 4: Western media. It's all part of Hannibal's doctrine and all
Speaker 4: this kind of strategy that they that they don't want
Speaker 4: prisoners to be taken hostage be taken because it results
Speaker 4: in problematic, you know, negotiations. They prefer that in a
Speaker 4: case like that, to kill them on the way out.
Speaker 4: And what happened with all those cars that were piled up,
Speaker 4: They sliced them into pieces and buried them. Now, why
Speaker 4: are they destroying evidence like that? This is just like
Speaker 4: nine to eleven. Why are they destroying evidence from from
Speaker 4: this crime that has not been investigated yet, because they
Speaker 4: it will show that most of the casualties on October
Speaker 4: seventh were in fact caused by the IS reel and military.
Speaker 4: Whow the the the Hamask guy's had light arms, you know,
Speaker 4: machine guns, and they came in on their gliders or
Speaker 4: something like that. But they didn't have the didn't have
Speaker 4: the capability of making cars burn. It burn up like
Speaker 4: a torch. They didn't have to put holes in cars
Speaker 4: like that to destroy, and they move bodies around. It's nasty,
Speaker 4: nasty stuff. But NATA who hasn't had an investigation yet,
Speaker 4: it's been what two years.
Speaker 5: Now, but they're trying to bring them in for international
Speaker 5: court now, but not about these things, about other stuff.
Speaker 5: But still I'm hoping it would be all incumbassable.
Speaker 4: Well, it's rarely. It's like the American people deserved. When
Speaker 4: something like this happens, the first thing that you should
Speaker 4: demand is an investigation to understand what happened, whether it's
Speaker 4: nine to eleven or October seventh, and that in both cases,
Speaker 4: that is exactly what they avoided as long as they
Speaker 4: possibly could yeah, you know, people were clamoring, people were
Speaker 4: climbing for an investigation in two thousand and one, two
Speaker 4: thousand and two, two thousand and three, and it never came.
Speaker 4: And when it didn't, when it did come, it came
Speaker 4: in the form of like a warrant commission report. Yeah,
Speaker 4: not even not even looking at important things like the
Speaker 4: explosions or the evidence of The first article I wrote
Speaker 4: about nine eleven was about explosions because it was reported
Speaker 4: in numerous media outlets like People magazine with eyewitnesses there
Speaker 4: saw explosions, felt explosions, hurt explosions, and and and and
Speaker 4: not not to investigate explosions in the in the detonation,
Speaker 4: the destruction of towers is inexcusable. I talked to a
Speaker 4: man who led the investigation, Gene Corley. He was leading
Speaker 4: the technical investigation of the World Trade Center, and I
Speaker 4: asked him, have you tested the steel for evidence of explosions?
Speaker 4: He says, I'm not a metal guy. I'm a concrete guy,
Speaker 4: so I'm not a metal guy. So you shouldn't be
Speaker 4: doing that. You should be doing that job if you're
Speaker 4: if you don't understand how to test metal for explosions.
Speaker 5: Right, I mean there's a residue. It's not it's really
Speaker 5: not rocket science. It's you you test for a little
Speaker 5: bit of some specific type of some chemical deposits, a
Speaker 5: little bit of cordite and smell in the air. It's
Speaker 5: it's really not difficult.
Speaker 4: Or in the case of thermite, in the case of thermite,
Speaker 4: cutter charges it leaves, it leaves a flag, a slag
Speaker 4: kind of a molten molten molten left or harden molten's
Speaker 4: molten metal.
Speaker 5: It looks like buggers if you don't know what you're
Speaker 5: doing with welding, and it looks like those metal buggers
Speaker 5: that's on a really ship weld It's it's that.
Speaker 4: And I I contacted the the guys in in Air
Speaker 4: in in the they did the clean up as the
Speaker 4: World Trade Center and they're a demolition company from from
Speaker 4: Maryland mm hmm. And and I talked to them because
Speaker 4: they had they had seen eye witnesses has seen molten
Speaker 4: molten iron at the base of the World Trade Center.
Speaker 4: When they got down to the ground level, when they
Speaker 4: got down this six six or seven basements in the
Speaker 4: World Trade Center towers, when they got down to the bedrock,
Speaker 4: they found these pools of molten molten iron, and no
Speaker 4: could explain what what it was. But I I called
Speaker 4: up the demolition company and asked them, and they said, yeah,
Speaker 4: it was. It was you know, massive amounts of molten
Speaker 4: metal still in the molten state, still in the molten state.
Speaker 4: So what was used in the World Trade Center was
Speaker 4: was exotic weapons, exotic technologies, but also some very old
Speaker 4: fashioned thermite. It was using James Bond, James Bond books.
Speaker 3: Not just airplanes, is what you're saying, Not.
Speaker 4: Just airplanes, and not just not just nano thermite. For example,
Speaker 4: nano thermite. Nano thermite is a whole nother thing. Nano
Speaker 4: Thermite is when you use thermite, make thermite, but you
Speaker 4: make it on a nano level, a nanoscale, extremely extremely
Speaker 4: small particles and there and there, these these these particles
Speaker 4: are are a matrix next to each other, side by side,
Speaker 4: so you have maximum area of detonation. And and that's
Speaker 4: why you can have something like a one q centimeter
Speaker 4: of this stuff has immense power. And and that's nanotechnology
Speaker 4: that was not known when when when nine to eleven happened,
Speaker 4: nanotechnology was not known to most people. It's become known
Speaker 4: since then, but it was. It wasn't understood and the power,
Speaker 4: but the military knew. And that's why if we're talking
Speaker 4: about nanotechnology, we can we can limit the number of
Speaker 4: people that can make such a thing. Uh, on the
Speaker 4: on the fingers of one hand. Yeah, yeah, the main
Speaker 4: the main one. One of the main ones was UH
Speaker 4: Research Institute and I think it's in Stanford and uh
Speaker 4: they're the guy in charge of the thermite reactions there.
Speaker 4: Their nano thermite research was was an Israeli guy who's
Speaker 4: been there for like twenty five years. So the Israelis
Speaker 4: are have been. Israelis have been at the cutting edge
Speaker 4: of this technology, nano thermite since it was vers discovering.
Speaker 5: Wow, I've never I've never looked into nano thermite. I've
Speaker 5: made my own thermite at the house for you know,
Speaker 5: just dicking off purposes, you know, fun things in the backyard,
Speaker 5: country boy things. But I am going to do a
Speaker 5: deeper look into nano thermite. This sounds fascinating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna change. It changes
Speaker 4: the world. I mean because it's the power that it has.
Speaker 4: It's used as a primer, a detonator, all kinds of things,
Speaker 4: but it wouldn't leave behind It wouldn't leave behind pools
Speaker 4: of steel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it wouldn't leig clumps of slag. It would be
Speaker 5: and not say microscopic, but it wouldn't. It wouldn't stand
Speaker 5: out if you didn't know exactly what to look for.
Speaker 4: And what happened was I when when I was doing
Speaker 4: this research about nine to eleven in two thousand and five,
Speaker 4: I think it was, I went at UC Davis and
Speaker 4: I luckily lucky I was in the science library. They
Speaker 4: happened to have a copy of the study. There was
Speaker 4: a study done of the dust of the World Trade
Speaker 4: Center and had a few pictures in it, and one
Speaker 4: of the micrographs, and one of the micrographs showed a
Speaker 4: perfectly round little sphere of steep of iron. I wondered,
Speaker 4: how did that happen? When I photographed this the contents
Speaker 4: of this book and brought them back with me to
Speaker 4: Utah and game to Stephen Jones, and and it led
Speaker 4: to the discovery of nano thermite because this this little
Speaker 4: tiny microspheres, microspheres of of of iron can only be
Speaker 4: produced by a n nano nano reaction, and reaction of
Speaker 4: nano thermite because the reaction is so small, it creates
Speaker 4: a very small, tiny ball, much more and much more
Speaker 4: than a millimeter, you know, we're talking about really really small.
Speaker 4: And this happens to be the signature characteristic of the
Speaker 4: dust in the World Trade Center. All any dust, any
Speaker 4: dust that you get from the World Trade Center, it's
Speaker 4: going to contain these little tiny balls to steel iron.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: Seeing here it says nano thermite was developed in the
Speaker 2: early nineteen nineties as part of a military research into
Speaker 2: nanosized materials. Its unique properties allow for much higher reaction
Speaker 2: rates compared to traditional thermites, right right.
Speaker 4: I mean that's the thing is that it it detonates
Speaker 4: it huge speeds, immense speeds, you know, faster than speed way,
Speaker 4: faster than the speed of sound. Just it's incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know when I when I was writing about this,
Speaker 4: I would get I would get keep back feedback from
Speaker 4: people that say, oh, you know what you're talking about,
Speaker 4: this is not possible. Is you're dreaming. But the scientific
Speaker 4: literature is out there, there's plenty of it that shows that.
Speaker 4: As you said, it was developed in the nineteen nineties
Speaker 4: and it was used at the World Trade Center.
Speaker 2: Well, there was the National Nanotech Technology Initiative, which happened
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety nine. Interesting time for that, DAP.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety nine, the United States government launched the
Speaker 2: National Nanotechnology Initiative, a coordinated effort to accelerate research and
Speaker 2: development in nanotechnology. This initiative aim to advance nanoscale science
Speaker 2: and engineering, foster collaboration among different sectors, and promote the
Speaker 2: responsible development of nanotechnology. Responsible They did that ninety nine
Speaker 2: and two years later, you know, and what.
Speaker 4: You need when you're making a nanotechnology like this in
Speaker 4: nanosermite in particular, is that you need powderized aluminum, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a pretty decent component of most thermite.
Speaker 5: I would think exactly.
Speaker 4: It is the it's the primary requirement. And what we
Speaker 4: find is that Ahood Brock, after you lost that election
Speaker 4: in nineteen two thousand, came to this company in Pennsylvania
Speaker 4: called metal Urg metal Urg like metal Metallurgy. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: and that company was specializing and creating powderized aluminum. And
Speaker 4: so I I wonder if if Barrock was responsible for
Speaker 4: mixing getting these getting these components together in a laboratory
Speaker 4: someplace and and creating the nano THERMITO was used the
Speaker 4: World Trade Center and then had to be applied. It
Speaker 4: had to be applied, and how would it how would
Speaker 4: be applied? It's it's kind of could be. It could
Speaker 4: be applied as a as a scream, as a kind
Speaker 4: of a spray. You can spray it on like like water,
Speaker 4: like like like fireproofing. Or it could be. It could be.
Speaker 4: I got various reports. One person told me that his
Speaker 4: mother worked in one of the towers and she was
Speaker 4: going down going down the corner elevator one day, or
Speaker 4: the stairway. She was in the stairway and there were
Speaker 4: these guys wrapping, wrapping the pipes with this foil like
Speaker 4: foiled and she said, what are you doing that for?
Speaker 4: And she they said, they keep this pipes from sweating.
Speaker 4: I mean, you get you get these kinds of reports
Speaker 4: like that. It may be indications of nanother might being applied.
Speaker 5: It's very possible. You wouldn't be wrapping a pipe in
Speaker 5: a metal sheathing to keep it from sweating. You'd be
Speaker 5: using some sort of insulating foam, right like like in
Speaker 5: the winter time, when you don't want your spict outside
Speaker 5: to freeze, you put some sort of a foam on it.
Speaker 5: First off, right, Second off, there's an argument to be said,
Speaker 5: like the Hindenburg for instance, that the reason why I
Speaker 5: went down so fast is because it was painted with
Speaker 5: materials that would have been used to make like a
Speaker 5: low gright, low grade thermite reaction. Right. So I could
Speaker 5: also see a realm where you could even have a
Speaker 5: spray paint can full of powderized aerosol, micro thermite or
Speaker 5: nano thermite, spray that on a couple of pieces of
Speaker 5: rebarb and all it needs is an ignition source to
Speaker 5: take off. Now, I mean then thermite's a very relatively
Speaker 5: slow burning thing. Uh I remember when we were playing
Speaker 5: around with it. I mean it took a few seconds
Speaker 5: to burn its way through an engine block. But I
Speaker 5: mean it's still burned its way through. Yeah, we're talking
Speaker 5: about way more heat at a way faster rate. So
Speaker 5: it's more of a it's more deliberate, if you.
Speaker 4: Will, quantum quantum levels of fast, because we're talking about
Speaker 4: detonations versus deflagration. You have. You know, when you burn
Speaker 4: throwing about like you did in the backyard, it's deflagration.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's moving very slowly through the material, or
Speaker 4: like a burning log exactly. But but detonation is when
Speaker 4: it gets beyond the speed of sound.
Speaker 5: So like, for instance, debt cord or detonation cord. For
Speaker 5: anybody who doesn't know, I have a little bit of
Speaker 5: experience that with this. Whenever I hooked up with the Assaultment,
Speaker 5: I was an infantry marine. So at one point I
Speaker 5: was hooked up with the Assaultmanent and we were playing
Speaker 5: around with C four and making our own clay more
Speaker 5: charges and things like that, and they were making debt cord,
Speaker 5: and they were showing us how to like tie certain
Speaker 5: knots to use in the place of blasting caps and
Speaker 5: all these things. Debt cord burns so fast. If you
Speaker 5: hypothetically were to have a continuous string of it going
Speaker 5: from LA to New York City and you lit one
Speaker 5: end of it, it would hit the other side in
Speaker 5: six seconds. That's how fast debt cord burns, right, And
Speaker 5: that's why whenever you make a specific knot of this,
Speaker 5: it's kind of like a slipknot. You can bring it
Speaker 5: up or down the cord to like wherever you want
Speaker 5: to put your blasting cap at. That's why it acts
Speaker 5: as a detonator in of itself. So to your point,
Speaker 5: nano thermite would be, like you said, more of a detonation,
Speaker 5: not a conflaglation. I forget the word you just used.
Speaker 5: But basically, instead of the welding like a cutting torch
Speaker 5: trying to cut through rebar, which will do the job,
Speaker 5: but it'll take a second, nano thermite would be almost instantaneous.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: Wow, that is insane.
Speaker 4: And think the thing is is that again, the Israelis
Speaker 4: use detonations like this every day right now. They're using
Speaker 4: robotic detonations in Gods of the city. They're they're they're
Speaker 4: using robots to deliver the debt, you know, packages of
Speaker 4: exposes to a building and blowing it up, and they're
Speaker 4: taking down they're taking down whole city blocks. Israel Is
Speaker 4: a very good a detonation because they do it a lot.
Speaker 4: They're very good at detonating concrete buildings. And there was
Speaker 4: there was this UH Drug Enforcement Agency had come across
Speaker 4: some Israeli agents in America prior to nine one one
Speaker 4: who were who were experts in detonation. They were they
Speaker 4: were from a detonation crew and Israeli army and they
Speaker 4: were they were fainning off to be there, pretending to
Speaker 4: be art students, and they were going around to DEA
Speaker 4: offices in America offering art art to the homeowner or
Speaker 4: whatever it was. And it turns out that these were
Speaker 4: all these Israeli units who were based in Florida, southern California, Texas,
Speaker 4: and and these people are it's it's it's thought that
Speaker 4: some of these people are were involved in the nine
Speaker 4: to eleven operation because many of them, many of them
Speaker 4: lived like a block away from the Arab suspects. I
Speaker 4: don't know if you've heard of a book called The
Speaker 4: Little Drummer Girl by John Lecarr John mccare a. I
Speaker 4: don't think I have Little Drummer Girls. It's a very
Speaker 4: good movie. It's about is how Israel does operations, how
Speaker 4: most does operations in Europe. And one of the things
Speaker 4: they do is that they they they steal identities. So
Speaker 4: what they do, what they did in Florida, for example,
Speaker 4: was that if you had Mohammed, and Mohammed was one
Speaker 4: of the suspects, one of the Arab suspects who you're
Speaker 4: who you're following, you see Mohammad, go to the d
Speaker 4: m V on Tuesday and get a new license. Then
Speaker 4: on Wednesday you write to you, write to the m
Speaker 4: V and your your your your Yosi Israel who's following
Speaker 4: this guy? And you're telling the d m V that
Speaker 4: I'm Mohammed, I lost my license. I need a new one.
Speaker 4: And in those days, Florida would just give you a
Speaker 4: new one with a new address on it. And and
Speaker 4: in this way, every every one of those Arab crews,
Speaker 4: those those four four man crews that were in the
Speaker 4: United very various places in the United States, had an
Speaker 4: Israeli shadow group following them everywhere they went. And and
Speaker 4: this is this is an old Israeli tactic. The the
Speaker 4: the book Little Drummer Girl was written in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 4: It was written by the information was given to by
Speaker 4: Mosad from the way they were doing operations in their route.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 4: So you see they steal identities so that so that
Speaker 4: you don't know who's who. One thing is very weird.
Speaker 4: If if if all nineteen of these Arab guys got
Speaker 4: on planes that day, where are the videos, where are
Speaker 4: the videos showing We only have two lousy pictures of
Speaker 4: them getting on a plane in May. I think it
Speaker 4: was uh, but but we don't have any any any
Speaker 4: really good video showing that these guys were on the plane.
Speaker 5: Wow, it's just I'm gonna have to check this out.
Speaker 5: I've never even heard of this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you look at the look at the it's
Speaker 4: a DA it's a DA report that they did. It's uh,
Speaker 4: it's it's available on the internet. It was available on
Speaker 4: internet for years, unredacted. And it gives the names of
Speaker 4: the gives the names of the Israelis and the Arabs
Speaker 4: that they were tracking. And it's very it's it's so
Speaker 4: so from the very beginning we knew we were we
Speaker 4: were dealing with an Israeli operation. And my, my, my
Speaker 4: biggest mistake was I think it was letting that known
Speaker 4: to too many people.
Speaker 5: When you say too many people, do you mean too
Speaker 5: many people in the United States government or too many
Speaker 5: people as far as the world stage is concerned to
Speaker 5: what love?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I I I spoke about it, probably
Speaker 4: two more than I should.
Speaker 5: You mean, when you were a journalist, you mean on
Speaker 5: this episode you know what I No, no, no.
Speaker 4: Not as episode, not as episode, but yeah, as a journalist, yeah,
Speaker 4: because it's it's you know, even if people the guy
Speaker 4: in bolthd In in Boston told me, you know, you're
Speaker 4: you're you're right, you might be right about it, but
Speaker 4: you shouldn't. You should shouldn't talk about the way you do.
Speaker 4: And I said, and I said, but but but if
Speaker 4: I'm right, I said, if it's true, why not? And
Speaker 4: he just said, you know, should't you shoudn't talk about it?
Speaker 5: And he was probably right, probably because and and I
Speaker 5: kind of especially with you being in journalism and you
Speaker 5: speaking about the things you were speaking about and writing
Speaker 5: these articles and all this. We may have talked about
Speaker 5: this when you came on our show last time, but
Speaker 5: just we keep hearing many people, especially in the conspiratorial realm,
Speaker 5: talking about how Israel controls all of our media, right,
Speaker 5: and of course it's you have the the ultra racist
Speaker 5: version that's like, yeah, you know, the Jews control the media. Okay, pause,
Speaker 5: Jews are not inherently what we mean by Israel. Yes,
Speaker 5: the two there is a connection there, but I don't
Speaker 5: think the two are systemically a part of it as
Speaker 5: far as that's concerned. But there are some that truly
Speaker 5: believe that the Israeli government, Moussad Apak, the actual powers
Speaker 5: that be as far as Israel's concerned, absolutely control and
Speaker 5: dominate our media. Right wing, left wing, doesn't matter, two
Speaker 5: wings of the same bird. In your time as a journalist,
Speaker 5: and especially writing about the things you were writing about,
Speaker 5: did you experience anything that would have told you that
Speaker 5: that was a true statement. Did you get pushed back,
Speaker 5: did you get shut down? Did you get fired for
Speaker 5: talking about certain things?
Speaker 4: Yeah? All of those things really. Yeah, And it's it's
Speaker 4: it's true that the difference between there's the huge difference
Speaker 4: between Jews as a people, yeah, and Israel. You can
Speaker 4: just take for example, the when when Israel can state
Speaker 4: they invited, they offered Albert Einstein to be the president
Speaker 4: of the country. Yeah, and he turned it down. He
Speaker 4: turned it down very vigorously, and he penned a letter
Speaker 4: to the New York Times with a few other Jewish
Speaker 4: people and he he he, he wasted no, no, no
Speaker 4: mercy on on the Israel, on the Israeli, your Glen people,
Speaker 4: the Leh people. He hated, he hated them, He hated
Speaker 4: them with a passion. He said they would lead to
Speaker 4: the destruction of Jewish people. I mean, what we're what
Speaker 4: we're dealing with in Israel today is very much like
Speaker 4: in biblical times. Are Kochba and and Masada. You have
Speaker 4: you have, you have this. You have zealots. You have
Speaker 4: Messianic Zealot zealotry. And like these people that are around
Speaker 4: and Natana himself, these zealots will will do anything to
Speaker 4: achieve what they want. So they will go up on
Speaker 4: the Temple mount and and start praying and you know,
Speaker 4: inflaming the whole Muslim world, and and they'll they'll say
Speaker 4: things like that we have to kill every single Palestinian
Speaker 4: and Kaza Strip and everyone in the West Bank. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's just like it's just outrageous.
Speaker 5: And I hate how you can't be critical of net
Speaker 5: and Yahoo without being called an anti Semite. And it's
Speaker 5: like the two are not necessarily connected. You can say
Speaker 5: what Net and Yahoo is doing is horrible and also
Speaker 5: still be pro Jewish people like the two are not
Speaker 5: the same sentence, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, And there's no reason there's no reason to give
Speaker 4: ness on Yah who any sort of benefit of this
Speaker 4: doubt he has no you know, you know, there's there's
Speaker 4: this getting back to the Israeli identity and Jewish identity.
Speaker 4: They've done in the last few decades. They've done studies
Speaker 4: geneological studies where they whether they've gone to test the
Speaker 4: DNA of Israelis and they found they found that the
Speaker 4: majority of the people in in in Palestine, Palestinian people
Speaker 4: have the have the Canaanite marker the DNA or the
Speaker 4: ancient people of cana Kanan.
Speaker 5: Most of the time I've heard that the Palestinian DNA
Speaker 5: results show Jordanian and Lebanese and sometimes Egyptian DNA. And
Speaker 5: the Palestinians are pissed because there's no such thing as
Speaker 5: a ancient Palestinian people, because the nation of Palestine or
Speaker 5: the term for Palestine, only came about after the Romans
Speaker 5: destroyed the Temple after seventy a d and renamed Judea
Speaker 5: to Palestine. And they're pissed about that. They're like, we
Speaker 5: need our own DNA tests and this this is like no, no.
Speaker 5: But Palestinians are, like you said, the Canaanite markers, the Jordanian,
Speaker 5: the Lebanese, the Egyptian, it's not that's not their own thing.
Speaker 4: And and and the and the Ashkenazi Ashkenazi Jews from
Speaker 4: from from bel Russia and Russia and in Germany do
Speaker 4: not have that marker, do not have that the very, very,
Speaker 4: very few of them have that marker. Because if you've
Speaker 4: lived in Israel, have been in Israel, you know that
Speaker 4: Ashaganazi Jews do not marry Sephardic Jews do not marry Chews.
Speaker 4: They're not mary Kalestinians. Yeah, it's a very racial society.
Speaker 4: It's stratified in all kinds of ways. But the master
Speaker 4: main stratification is that you have the the Ashkenazi on
Speaker 4: top still to this day, and then you have Sofariiti
Speaker 4: down lower, the Oriental jew and then you have the
Speaker 4: mits Rahi, Misriyan, Egyptian Jews, and so on and so
Speaker 4: on and so forth.
Speaker 5: There's only one type that anybody really seems to have
Speaker 5: an issue with in the Arab world. They they don't
Speaker 5: have an issue with the Spartans, they have no beef
Speaker 5: with the Spartan Jews whatsoever. It's specifically Ashkenazi that the
Speaker 5: rest of the Middle East seems to really have an
Speaker 5: issue with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that gets into a whole nother conversation. That's fair, fair,
Speaker 4: but the the you know, the thing is that you
Speaker 4: still have, for example, hundreds of synagogues in in Iran,
Speaker 4: and and you have a Jewish population in Iran that
Speaker 4: it has chosen to stay in Iran and in other
Speaker 4: parts of the air world as well. But what they
Speaker 4: did is that when Israel was created, is that the
Speaker 4: massade went into action. The Mossad ali a Bett was
Speaker 4: created to bring Israeli Jewish people from around the world
Speaker 4: into Israel, and they often used terrorism for that too.
Speaker 4: For example, in Iraq, is Mossad put bombs in synagogues
Speaker 4: in order to in order to compel the Iraqi Jews
Speaker 4: to gone to Palestine. M So it's like terrorism. When
Speaker 4: terrorism is discussed, you have to understand who started terrorism.
Speaker 4: And a British journalist asked Manican began once he said,
Speaker 4: how does it feel to be the father of terrorism
Speaker 4: in the Middle East? And began said in the Middle East,
Speaker 4: he said, in the whole world, because he sees himself
Speaker 4: he saw himself as the father of terrorism in the
Speaker 4: whole world.
Speaker 5: I feel like that's a bit of a misnomer though,
Speaker 5: I mean, hell, we could even like you said, the
Speaker 5: zel from biblical times or the Hashachins from the Crusade era.
Speaker 5: There's been religious extremists that have carried out acts of
Speaker 5: violence to further political means. What we would now call
Speaker 5: terrorism for thousands and thousands of years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like yes, and and and some of
Speaker 4: the you know, for example, if you read if you
Speaker 4: read in the Rise of the American Empire, the Rise
Speaker 4: and Fall American knows it, what's it by by? Yeah, well,
Speaker 4: in history, in history, there was a post in seventeen
Speaker 4: seventy six about the Roman Empire. Yeah, there's a there's
Speaker 4: a little bit in there about the Jewish people. And
Speaker 4: one one instance is that he talks about the horrible
Speaker 4: massacres that were created by done by the Jews in
Speaker 4: Sirene and Sarenica those two places. One is Egypt one
Speaker 4: and when one is one is Libya the area around Tripoli.
Speaker 4: The other one is in Syrian in Cyprus. And and
Speaker 4: this is just in the year seventy or so. This
Speaker 4: is at the time of the wars of the Roman
Speaker 4: Wars with the with the Jews, the second second Roman Wars.
Speaker 5: You're talking about when the Maccabees were out and about
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 4: It was the Maccabees. It was, it was, it was
Speaker 4: after it was after Masada. It was it was after
Speaker 4: it was after it was after the second Fall of
Speaker 4: the second Destruction of the temple, so it was it
Speaker 4: was about seventy.
Speaker 5: A d yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: But what they did, what they did, for example, with
Speaker 4: to these in Cyprus, is that they did the Jews
Speaker 4: from Palestine came over and they killed two hundred thousand
Speaker 4: Cypriots and in in in Libya two hundred and twenty
Speaker 4: thousand Libyans. And this is a huge number of people
Speaker 4: to be killed at that time when you can center
Speaker 4: of the I mean, that's that's four times as many
Speaker 4: have been killed in Gaza in the past seven months
Speaker 4: or so, maybe twice a many. Yeah, But but they
Speaker 4: they used for example, they saw people in half. They
Speaker 4: this is where they made They made things out of
Speaker 4: their out of their skins, and things like that, those
Speaker 4: horror stories you hear about such things. And after that happened,
Speaker 4: the Cypriots, the Cypriots, the Cypriots in power said that
Speaker 4: we will ban Jews from Cypress, will never be allowed
Speaker 4: to come here again. And it lasted for a few
Speaker 4: thousand years. But now here we have again the Cypress
Speaker 4: are saying that the Israels are buying up all of Cypress.
Speaker 4: After after, after the two thousand years, they've forgotten what
Speaker 4: happened last time. But it was, it was horrible and
Speaker 4: and and it's like so people people often say, oh,
Speaker 4: that the Jews been kicked out of these countries, and
Speaker 4: as if the Jews had done nothing wrong, And you know,
Speaker 4: I point them to places that look at Cyprus, look
Speaker 4: at Libya, look at look at these look at what
Speaker 4: happened there, and and say, is there a reason why
Speaker 4: that people were banned from that country? Damn, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's a famous history was posted seventeen
Speaker 4: seventy six, the year of the US Revolution, and it's
Speaker 4: the rise and fall of the Roman Empire.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: And the guys the guy's name, I forgot his name,
Speaker 4: the author, but it's a it's a classic British work
Speaker 4: of history.
Speaker 5: Well if that, I'm still I mean not to detract,
Speaker 5: but also then why have the Gypsy's been kicked out
Speaker 5: of every single country they've ever lived in?
Speaker 4: The same thing. It gets to it gets to uh
Speaker 4: inability of a particular people. It's the Jews or Gypsies
Speaker 4: to live in peaceful terms with the host country. They
Speaker 4: if they, if they, if they practic just the things
Speaker 4: that they do, if they, if they, you know, like
Speaker 4: here in Europe, you have you have you have Roman
Speaker 4: Gypsies coming up to European countries. The business plan, business
Speaker 4: plan is to is to sit outside the store and
Speaker 4: collect money. And that's their business plan. Yeah, and the
Speaker 4: people in Germany and Scandinavia don't really like it, but
Speaker 4: they let it go because under European rules that's such
Speaker 4: a business plan can can be done. But people like
Speaker 4: like that, like the Israelis. You if, for example, if
Speaker 4: we have Ai coming up with conclusion that that Israel
Speaker 4: did nine one one, Yeah, you can imagine, you know
Speaker 4: what what what what would the blowback would be? You know?
Speaker 4: And it's it's said, it's that, it's that the media
Speaker 4: is the media hasn't been controlled by his Zionists for
Speaker 4: a long time. Hollywood was created by a Zionis and
Speaker 4: and so so that you have this this h layer
Speaker 4: of protection, you know, Rubert Murdoch, Fox TV, CNN, they protect,
Speaker 4: they protect a lot of criminals.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: The uh the author of that book, is it Edward Gibbon, Yes.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's gotcha.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And there's only if you do an index search,
Speaker 4: you find only about four or five places where Jews
Speaker 4: are mentioned but in I think chapter seven begins, Chapter seven,
Speaker 4: he talks about this and he you know, he writes
Speaker 4: about it as if as it was common knowledge at
Speaker 4: that time for the reader to know about these histories,
Speaker 4: the history of what happened in Sirreen and Sirencia. Yet
Speaker 4: you'd find very few people today who know anything about
Speaker 4: it in history in history department at the university.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, I mean that book's two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty years old, now, you know, you know.
Speaker 4: But the history we're talking about, the history we're talking about,
Speaker 4: is much older than that. But it you know, as
Speaker 4: you as you see now with Cyprus, Cyprus is cypress
Speaker 4: is on the drawing board part of the greater Israel.
Speaker 2: And yeah, is like a religious thing or is it
Speaker 2: more a political thing that is kind of under the
Speaker 2: guise of being religious.
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's first and foremost it's religious, but it's
Speaker 4: it's religious.
Speaker 5: In this say it could be both at the same time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But when when you when you when you when
Speaker 4: you talk about the characters that are pushing it forward today,
Speaker 4: you know, bengevir And and Smoke Rich and Nata Yahoo,
Speaker 4: you say, how how do these people, how do these
Speaker 4: people control a country of Israel. With Israel has a
Speaker 4: lot of smart people and a lot of very fair
Speaker 4: amounted people. How is it that these three characters are
Speaker 4: able to control so many people? And it has to
Speaker 4: do it has a lot to do with the power
Speaker 4: of the Rabbis, because it's it's messianic. They're Messianic Jews.
Speaker 4: They think that they think that certain things have to
Speaker 4: be accomplished before the Messiah will come back, and they're
Speaker 4: hell bent on doing it. And you know it's it's
Speaker 4: talking about numerology. It's the same reason why you said,
Speaker 4: you saw this number six million bandied about so many
Speaker 4: times in the media in the eighteen hundreds and nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 4: Here in Russia, six minione Jews died. Here, here in Latvia,
Speaker 4: six minutes jus died. And the reason, yeah, the reason why,
Speaker 4: the reason why they use this number six million so
Speaker 4: often because it's it has a significant meaning. It's a
Speaker 4: number of Jews that have to be martyred for the
Speaker 4: Messiah can come. So this number was used extensively until
Speaker 4: it wound up in World War Two, being attached to
Speaker 4: World War two to the number of Jewish Jewish Jewish
Speaker 4: deaths World War two.
Speaker 5: To his point, I think there's another reason why the
Speaker 5: group that just did the red heifer sacrifice, they weren't
Speaker 5: Orthodox Jews. They weren't the ones that are trying to
Speaker 5: rebuild the temple or any of that stuff. It was
Speaker 5: being done by Messianic Jews, the ones who acknowledged Jesus.
Speaker 5: That group is the group that did the red heifer
Speaker 5: sacrifice to collect the acid ashes for the purification and
Speaker 5: all these things. They are going about it trying to
Speaker 5: bring about the end of days and the return of Jesus.
Speaker 5: It's it's a whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. I saw the other day some religious
Speaker 4: religious Jews. You know, there are differences between religious Usummar
Speaker 4: Zionists wh are not Zionists. Some are anti Zionists.
Speaker 5: They got the Reform, you got the Orthodox, you got
Speaker 5: the yeah they got. They got their denominations in sex
Speaker 5: the same way that Christians have different denominations and sex.
Speaker 4: Get it. But I saw I saw a video of
Speaker 4: some some Orthodox Jews in a woods in Moncey, New York,
Speaker 4: and they had they had a burning. They had a
Speaker 4: carcass of a deer on a pallette and they were
Speaker 4: burning that. I was wondering what the heck are they
Speaker 4: burning a deer in the woods for. Hmm, But it's
Speaker 4: probably something to do with collecting ashes for something. I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 5: Uh, that might have been like an offering for atonement,
Speaker 5: because there's very strict rules set down in the Book
Speaker 5: of Leviticus as far as what has to be sacrificing
Speaker 5: for what purpose and what parts of the animals you're
Speaker 5: supposed to take in all of this. I was reading
Speaker 5: it just a couple of weeks ago. I didn't know
Speaker 5: that they had to use this part of the liver,
Speaker 5: like the long lobe of the liver, but not the
Speaker 5: entirety of it. And it was for this purpose, and
Speaker 5: for that purpose they got real specific of when Moses
Speaker 5: told Aaron how to do certain things. But all of
Speaker 5: that to be said, to my knowledge, there's no mention
Speaker 5: of a deer. But maybe you use what you have
Speaker 5: readily available per where you live.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, magic style baby, sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Chris, Look, man, this conversation was awesome. You had said
Speaker 2: that we were only going to get an hour out
Speaker 2: of you, and somehow we're always able to squeeze another
Speaker 2: extra out out of almost everybody that tells us that,
Speaker 2: but it's always just amazing conversations. And you are an
Speaker 2: encyclopedia of knowledge. That's why I was just like sitting
Speaker 2: back and soaking it in. Man, this was very very interesting.
Speaker 2: You know, certain points that were made that I had
Speaker 2: never heard before, you know, in regards to nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: And yeah, if you would, could you let all of
Speaker 2: our good cult members know where to find you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my website it's Bullin dot com b O L
Speaker 4: l O y N dot com and my books are
Speaker 4: called Solving nine to eleven The Deception has Changed the World,
Speaker 4: and the original articles and yeah, it's like in the
Speaker 4: original articles you'll find the background information of all that
Speaker 4: all that stuff that we talked about. Most of the
Speaker 4: stuff we talked about, except for the religious religious religious stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't talk about that too much, fair, but the
Speaker 4: n nine to eleven research is all there.
Speaker 3: Awesome, Thank you so much for spending some time with
Speaker 3: us today.
Speaker 4: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: It was great catching up with you. And uh, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, let's just turn this into an
Speaker 2: annual thing.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, bro, this could be on nine to eleven Annual Conversation.
Speaker 5: I'm here for it.
Speaker 4: Okay, oh, thank you very much, absolutely and.
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