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the end of the last hour, I read from the

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Network Contagion Research Institute the NCRI. It's out of Rutgers

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University Social Perception Lab, and the name of the research

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piece was called assassination culture. How burning tesla's and killing

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billionaires became a meme esthetic for political violence. And in

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the report it talks about how so left leaning, ideological

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young people, highly online younger and ideologically left aligned users

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have embraced violence. And here are some of the stats.

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Murder justification. Thirty one percent and thirty eight percent of

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respondents said it would be at least somewhat justified to

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murder Musk and Trump, respectively, So thirty one percent said, yeah,

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you could. You can assassinate Musk and thirty eight percent

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yes for the president. These effects were largely driven by

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respondents that self identified as left of center, with forty

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eight percent and fifty five percent, So forty eight percent

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justifying murdering Musk and fifty five percent Trump. These are

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young people left or sorry, these are left of center

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cohorts okay, So just the left of center has a

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much higher rate, a higher chunk of the left leaning

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people say it's okay. Property destruction forty percent stated it

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is at least somewhat acceptable to destroy a Tesla dealership

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in protest. Again, support for violence is part of a

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broader assassination culture underpinned by psychological and ideological factors. Regarding

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the psychological, you know who Jordan Peterson is. I've played

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clips of him. I've watched his stuff for years. I've

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watched so Jordan Peterson, I'll start at the beginning. He

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was a university professor up in Toronto, and he taught psychiatry.

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And he was a clinical psychiatrist, which means that he

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also has a practice. And he would see clients and

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he would deal with like some really dark personality types

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with serious problems and such, and what he started doing

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was putting his lectures up onto YouTube, just his classroom lectures.

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He would put them on YouTube, and I've watched many

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of those lectures just to you know, learn what I

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could from this psychiatrist. And he then made news when

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he refused to use the pronouns of his students who

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were transgender, and Canada tried to pass the law that

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said he had to do it, and he was like,

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I'm not doing that. I'm a psychiatrist and everybody in

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my field knows that you do not placate and indulge

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the fantasies of your patients. You don't do that. The

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only way for the patient to overcome the dysphoria is

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to tell them that this is not true, and then

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let's look at why you think it is. But about

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I don't know, two seconds ago, as a society, everybody

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decided to just throw all of that information out the

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window because it served some other purpose, you know, much

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like wearing masks to combat the respiratory virus. Right. So

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that's what landed him sort of in the public eye

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and people. He was one of the first people you

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can call it cancel culture or you know, opening shots

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in the culture war. Or whatever. But he was fighting

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against the Canadian government which went full authoritarian. He was

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fighting against the university and the Canadian government regarding the

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pronoun issue. And this was after the HB TOO debate

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down here in North Carolina. So this story blows up.

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I believe that people really became a more people became

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really aware of him when he went on the Joe

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Rogan podcast Joe Rogan, if you don't know, he was

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the former host of Fear Factor. He's a MMA fighter

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MC right, so he's like the guy who calls the

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matches and stuff. But he started doing this podcast a

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long time ago, like I don't know, ten years ago

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or something, and it was just him talking to people

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that he thought were interesting, and the podcast blew up.

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It was like it still is, like a three hour

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podcast and people just sit around. You know the famous

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images of Elon Musk smoking weed that you see on

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the Twitter and Facebook, the little meme you know Elon

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Musk like hmm, this isn't so bad, like with the

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arched eyebrow look that came from the Joe Rogan show. Okay,

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because that's what he would do. He would sit around,

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he would drink, he would have you know coffee, you

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would smoke weed and they would just have conversations for

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three hours in the podcast explodes and it is like

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the number one podcast in the world. And Jordan Peterson

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went on that podcast, and I think that sort of

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like launched him into what I think a lot of

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people would sort of identify as like the right wing ecosystem.

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Right people now became more aware of who this guy is,

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and Jordan Peterson has since become even more famous. He

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no longer is at the University of Toronto. He now

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he does. And I saw him when he came to Charlotte.

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He did a presentation in Charlotte at the time Warner

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Sorry Spectrum Arena. And he also wrote a book called

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Twelve Rules for Life, and his whole purpose has been

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dedicated to getting people, predominantly, as it turns out, young men,

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to understand the importance and the value of responsibility and

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that's really where you find meaning in your life. And

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for example, one of the rules in his book Twelve

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Rules for Life was before you change the world, pick

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up your room, which makes sense. How can you possibly

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order an entire globe or a society if you cannot

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even order this tiny little corner of the world that

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you have total control over. You can do what you

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want in this room and if you want to. He

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talks about, you know, the importance of that kind of order.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: He says like, there are people who are too rigid

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in their order, and he has treated patients that are

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too far there, and one of the things he always

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tells them is, go get a dog. Right, people who

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are too ordered, too rigid, get a dog. It will

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introduce chaos. But on the other end of the spectrum

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is chaos. And you don't want to be a disordered

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or chaotic mind either, because then you know you're flighty.

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You can't commit to stuff, and you know you get

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overwhelmed with all of the things and you cannot be

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counted on. And so he is. And so that's sort

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of a I know, it's probably not even I have

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not pulled his official bio or anything like that, but

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he's written several books, he does lectures, he's part of

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the Daily Wire operation. They brought him in house. He

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does a podcast too, So he's now become very big

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as well. I and I can only speak for myself.

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I find him to be brilliant. I can't understand some

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of the stuff that he talks about without like going

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line by line and looking up the words he's using

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and researching what it is that he's talking about. He

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did an entire series on Exodus from the Bible. He

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is now I've noticed over the last I don't know

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two years, talks a lot more about the Biblical lessons.

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Like he he strips away the metaphysical, the miracles and

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that stuff, and he talks about the meaning of these

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stories and why they are still true and why they

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are so important to understand, and these truths that are

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revealed to people over the course of you know, millennia,

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that they have that they have value, and that is

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why they have persisted, and woe unto us who forget

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these things. And then there's another guy named James Lindsay.

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I have also quoted him. I have read a lot

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of the stuff he has written. He does a podcast

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as well. He he speaks in even deeper academic philosophical

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language that I struggle to understand some of THEFF A

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lot of the stuff that he does too. But this

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was one of the guys that started ripping down wokeism

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before anybody else. He, along with Helen Pluckrose and Peter Bargosian.

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They wrote a series of fake academic papers essentially mocking wokeism,

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and then got them published in these supposedly peer reviewed

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academic journals in the soft sciences, so like, you know,

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soft sciences, like not chemistry, not biology, stuff like you know,

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women's hut, not literature. I keep thinking of women's lit.

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But it's not that, but like women's studies, gender studies,

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queer studies, like that kind of stuff in these supposedly

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peer reviewed publications that were doing you know, serious academic research,

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and they submitted these stories, these fake papers, and got

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them published in order to prove that it's a fraud.

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This stuff is all fraudulent. As long as you come

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to a conclusion that the publishers want to see replicated

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or want to see published, that's it. That's all that matters.

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And after that he lost his position as a professor.

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He was a math teacher, he is a math professor.

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And it finally was exposed and he has now launched

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his whole career. He's been battling wocism and all of this,

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which brings us to the woke right, because wokism is

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understood to be of the left right, and what he

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identified about two years ago was this bubbling up of

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the similar tactics and psychology among people on the right,

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and it has now grown into darn near all out

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battle inside the right wing ecosystem podcasts and blogs and stuff.

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And yesterday Jordan Peterson went back onto the Joe Rogan podcast.

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I watched it, and Peterson addresses some of this woke

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rite stuff on that podcast. I'll let you hear a

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more transparent. This is an AI generated definition of woke right. Okay,

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what does woke right mean? In my AI voice, it

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refers to a faction. No, it probably wouldn't sound like that.

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They got the inflection down better. The woke right refers

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to a faction within conservative circles that adopts identity politics

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and social justice rhetoric similar to the woke left, often

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framing issues around race, gender, and depression. From a right

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wing perspective, This movement has emerged as a response to

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what they perceive as the excesses of leftist identity politics,

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creating a parallel discourse that emphasizes grievances of white, Christian

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and male identities. Right, so this is a reaction to

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quote woke right, that this is essentially designed to gut

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the rise of populism, the rise of conservatism. In other words,

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it's sort of a you know, an insider oppositional group,

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all right. So, and I'm just trying to lay the

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groundwork here because like this term woke right, there's debate

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about whether or not this is the appropriate term or not.

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who see it and say they are trying to fight

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against it, they don't like the term. But whatever. James Lindsay, basically,

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watching him on Twitter for the last year or so,

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and he has been I've seen him talk about like

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what should this thing be called? Now? Jordan Peterson, who

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He's a psychologist. That's different. So he went on to

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Twitter after his Joe Rogan appearance went up live yesterday

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and he wrote, it's not woke right and woke left allah.

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James lindsay, although his diagnosis is not far off, he's

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off target because it's not political. The problem is deeper

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than the political, it's nearer the psychological, And he says,

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bordering on the metaphysical. It's not right versus left, or

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red versus blue, or Republican versus democrat, or conservative versus liberal.

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Its cluster b psychopaths, dark tech, trad personalities against everyone

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including themselves, manipulative language aimed at self serving ends, narcissism,

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the desire to gain reputational status without competence or effort.

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The desire to gain reputational status without competence or effort.

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And then he talks about how predatory parasitism otherwise known

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as psychopathy and sadism positive delight in the unnecessary suffering

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of others. What Peterson asserts and does so in this

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interview with Joe Rogan is that there is a certain

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percentage of the population at all times, really four to

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five percent, that are psychopathic in some way. And those

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types of people will always be attracted to positions of power.

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And it's not that they agree with whatever that power

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structure advocates. It's not that they are ideological. They simply

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use the ideology to advance what their psychological needs are. Right,

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they are the wolf in sheep's clothing. They talk like you,

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they act like you. They say they agree with you,

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they say stuff they make you rally around them, but

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they don't believe it. They don't care about any of that.

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It doesn't matter to them. What matters is the power,

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the reputational status, or the sadism. He goes through the

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ten markers of what he calls political psycho pathology, and

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the first one, well, ten markers. I will go through

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I was going to read these before, but I'll read

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them now because I ran out of time. Obviously. The

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ten markers of political psychopathology self positioning at the extreme

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edge of a group or ideological identity, right, so positioning

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yourself at the fringe of a particular ideology. Two repeated

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public claims of ideological or religious identity, and purity to

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garner attention and increase social rank. I am this. I

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am on the fringe. I'm much more leftist or righty

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than you are. I'm a bigger maga than you. Right

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and purity tests. You disagree with me on one thing,

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and that's it. You're a traitor. You are not you know,

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you're not part of the movement or whatever. Three a

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pattern of repeated public protests. Four false cries of victimization.

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I've talked about this before, the tendency for interpersonal victimization TIV.

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When you see yourself as a victim, it becomes almost

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impossible to ever break out of that way of thinking.

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People who are actual victims of crime, violence, and the like, right,

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they work through this stuff with therapy, so they are

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no longer seeing themselves primarily as an identity of a victim.

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host of problems that come with it. Next, aggressive calls

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for reparation or vengeance. Well, we just turned an example

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of that with that George Mason University econ student right,

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absence of remorse, guilt or empathy, dramatic theatrical behavior, and

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extreme emotional variability, reputation, savaging, social exclusion, and mobbing, particularly

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when you're anonymous, right, whipping up mobs against people, and

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you're an anonymous account online. He's talking about political psychopathology

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and particularly how it occurs in the virtual space online,

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extreme entitlement and self aggrandizement, heightened instability in and fragility

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of interpersonal and social relationships. In other words, he says,

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the beliefs or convictions held by the politically psycho pathological

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are not beliefs or convictions at all. They are instead

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the sheep's clothing of the eternal wolves, the tools used

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to manipulate the unwitting, naive and insufficiently discriminating. This when

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I heard him talk about this on the Joe Rogan podcast,

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he also appeared. Peterson also appeared on Hannity Show and

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talked a little bit about it with Hannity. This to me,

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is not new. He put it in a way in

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a psychological framing that I had not heard before. But

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the concept, to me, is not new. I identified this

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during the Bush era, the George W. Bush era, when

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Republicans were ascended and they had taken control over you know,

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the White House, they had the House and Senate. They

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they were the party in charge, and there were a

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lot of people that glombed on to the Republican Party.

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And this was understood. This everybody understand I thought everybody

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understood this phenomenon. I never attached any kind of, you know,

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psychological diagnosis to it or anything. I just knew that

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people who seek power are going to glom onto the vehicles.

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They're going to get into the vehicle that gets them

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to the power. And when Republicans ascended to power, then

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you had people that were not conserved vatives. You had

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people who did not agree with the Republican platform and

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they saw it as a vehicle to be closer to power,

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and so they joined up with the Republicans, right, I mean,

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that's obvious. And when we were going through the debate

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about the Iraq War and the neo cons and all

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of this stuff, it was it was pretty clear, right,

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you had people who had differing views about things that

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were now somehow part of the Republican Party but didn't

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really have any kind of a historical record of being

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a conservative. Yet here they are, Peterson says. The politically

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psychopathological are those who we are are those we are

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warned about in the commandment thou shalt not take the

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name of the Lord, thy God in vain because the

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politically psychopathological are the pharisees, the false quote unquote religious

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leaders who don the clothing of the righteous while pursuing

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their own narrowly self serving and even purposefully destructive ends.

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In the mythic world, they are the allies of pride,

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the enemies of the true quest, and the servants of

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the Prince of lies. Okay, so Peterson is approaching this

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from a psychological, clinical psychologist posture. Right, he is identifying

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the similar traits that people on the quote unquote woke

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right have and the similarities they have with the people

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on the woke left, and they are similar. And what

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James Lindsay is identifying is like this thread of communism. Now,

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I think the threads are are intertwined because I look

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at communism as a religion, and I look at communism

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as a religion born of Satan, like I don't know

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any other system that you would create in order to

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end up with the body count of communism like that

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ideology is responsible for untold suffering and death and destruction.

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So if you were Satan and you wanted to make

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a political or economic philosophy like this is the way

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you would do it. So to me it makes sense

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that these the hallmarks of communism, and James Lindsay, self

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described anti communist, like this is the like to me,

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this is the overlap in the then diagram. To put

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it in a term that Kamala Harris might understand better.

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of laid out sort of the background save for one element.

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The one element is a couple of weeks ago, an

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author cultural commentator guy British dude named Douglas Murray. Douglas

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Murray appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast because he has

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a new book out and it's about the Israeli Hamas

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conflict and Peterson or Douglas Murray is I think fair

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to say pro Israel in that conflict. And he was

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invited to be on the Joe Rogan podcast. He had

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been on the Joe Rogan podcast several times before, but

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this time apparently it was insisted by Rogan. According to

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the reports I have seen that Rogan would not have

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Douglas Murray on the show alone, as he had on

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all previous occasions, but to talk about this topic, he

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brought on a guy by the name of Dave Smith,

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who is a friend of Joe Rogan's has his own podcast,

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is a stand up comedian guy. From what I understand,

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I've never seen any of his work. And Dave Smith

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is a libertarian, and I don't want to say he's

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pro Hamas because he doesn't ever say that, but he

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says he's anti war. He's against the bombing of the children,

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and that's his whole thing. And so Rogan brought Dave

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Smith on in order to create this debate between the two. Now,

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none of that was made public beforehand. So Murray and

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Smith have this debate. You can go back and watch it.

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You can make your own conclusions about who won, who lost,

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or whatever. But that's typically not the format that Rogan uses.

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He has, don't get me wrong, he has, but usually

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it's him talking to one person and it's just a conversation.

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But this was framed as more of a debate over

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the Israeli abbass war. And again I'm not going to

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go into any of what was said there, but that

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was sort of the flash point that lit the fuse.

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Because on the woke right, whatever you want to call it,

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in certain areas of the right wing ecosystem, there is

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this bubbling up dare I say boiling anti Semitism, and

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it is. It has broken through on occasion with some

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pretty big names in the right wing media podcast world.

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I think I heard it referred to as podcast is

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Stand or something like that. And so when when Peterson

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comes on, one of the things that he talks with

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Rogan about is essentially gatekeeping and how do you as

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the host ensure that you are not quote unquote platforming

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these various people. And if I said the names, depending

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on how deep you are into this ecosystem, you would

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not know them. But the guys like Ian Carol, Darryl

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Cooper who goes by the name Martyr Maid. I've actually

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read Martyr Maide's tweets on occasion. Martyr Maide aka Daryl

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Cooper was the one who said, you know, maybe Churchill

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wasn't the hero, he was the villain or whatever. And

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then people are like, that's out of context, and everything

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is a whole fight about that. So these these little

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skirmishes have been occurring over the last year. You also

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then have like the Andrew Tates uh was Dan Bulsarian

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or think it is his name right? And was the

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other one well, Tucker Carlson is part of that. There

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are there are other voices over in this area that

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have platformed on their own shows or have said themselves

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things that to be charitable, can be construed as anti semitism,

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not simply criticism of Israel, but anti semitism, okay, blaming

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the Jews for everything. So here is what. And so

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when Peterson comes on, he has he starts off talking

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and we're going to get into that in a bit,

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but the gatekeeping function. But then he also talks about

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what he was talking about in this piece about the

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psychopathy of people that glom on to movements. Right, these

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psychopaths who four to five percent of the population, attach

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themselves to powerful movements or institutions and they don't care

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about whatever it is the ideology is being expressed or

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why the institution exists.

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Speaker 1: I think that virtualization has enabled the psychopaths, without a doubt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: That's a terrible thing, because the psychopathic types, they're always

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the death of everything. Like I'm seeing this come up

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on the right now, So imagine imagine this. I've been

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working on a new a new theory of political psychopathology

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and I like it quite a lot. Is this where

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the term the woke right comes in. Yeah, well Lindsay

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is pointing at that, but he hasn't got he hasn't

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got the diagnosis exactly right. So it isn't woke. That's

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not the issue. It's not exactly one level talking about

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is like similar types of behavior. He is talking about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: Just lets you clarify in your head. Oh it's like that. Yeah,

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But the problem is absolutely But the problem is is

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that that argument is predicated on the claim that the

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ideas are the like the woke ideas for example, on

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the right or the left. But that's not the problem.

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The problem is that four to five percent of the

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population something like that is cluster b. That's the DSM

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five terms histrionic, narcissistic, antisocial, psychopathic, or they have and

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they have dark tetred traits, they're Machiavelian, they're sadistic. That's

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about four percent. Okay, So the question is how do

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these people maneuver And the answer is they go to

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where the power is and they adopt those ideas and

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they put themselves even on the forefront of that. But

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the ideas are completely irrelevant. All they're doing is they're

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the Pharisees. They're the modern version of the Pharisees. They're

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the people who use God's name in vain, right is

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They proclaim moral virtue doesn't matter whether it's right or left,

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or Christian or Jewish or Islam. They invade the idea

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of space, and then they use that those ideas as

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false weapons to a answer their narcissistic advantage. And so

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then you have the problem. And the Right's going to

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face this more and more, particularly because the Left had

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to face it when they were in powers. Yes, how

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do you identify the psychopathic parasites four percent of the

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population who are clothed in your clothing and waving your flags,

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but who are only in it for narcissistic benefit?

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Speaker 2: And I think this is the key question. People are

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this fight now is raging, But I think that's the question.

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How do you identify these kinds of people that are

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in your ranks when they seem to agree with you

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on things? How do you identify them? And then how

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do you get rid of them? How do you root

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them out? Right? That's the question. I believe. All right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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