Speaker 1: What a beautiful song that is called Stacy. And we
have the writer and composer and singer and guitarist and
from Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio.
We get that mic up, Hello, Eric, Hey, how are
we doing?
Speaker 2: Let's see how do I sound good?
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna boosome that volume a little bit.
Speaker 3: Heard.
Speaker 1: Eric's gonna play live for us this morning, So I
want to make sure we can hear you. Okay, I
think we're I think we're good. Yeah, congratulations, that just
came out Stacy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Stacy's song has been out since today, and yeah,
it's the series of probably several singles that are gonna
be coming in the near future. So I have like
at least seven or eight more.
Speaker 1: Okay, So has this been played on the radio before
today World Radio Premiere? We have it excellent, excellent. So
when you say it's out today, so it's on all
the streaming platform platform.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I have a video an official video
that uh I handa B Photography and I filmed together
that I'm going to be releasing soon too.
Speaker 1: Very good. Well, like how soon, like within the next
couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: So you would think with someone who's passionate, they would
have a date set, but I haven't. I haven't put it.
We we kind of created that video so extemporaneously and
very last minute. So it's done and it's ready. I
could release it now, but I don't know when I
want to do it right right?
Speaker 1: No, it makes sense. Yeah, you want to wait till
the time is right? Yeah, absolutely absolutely. And so you said,
so you're releasing a series of singles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm doing you You ever heard the Waterfall Effect? Yes, yes,
I've heard. I don't really want to do it because
I don't like the idea of it, but it seems
to everyone's just telling me to do it. So I'm like,
why don't I do it this time around and then
the next album I can do it the way I
want to do it. Yeah. So yeah, I'm releasing probably
every other month, I'm going to release a song.
Speaker 1: You're a previous because you have the album Schema, which
we've played songs from before. So but this time so
will the singles that you're releasing will they eventually?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually it's going to release. The album is gonna
be called Case Studies. And you had the artists who
did the artwork for it on the show Kira Curtis.
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that's right, we talked about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did the final album artwork, and then for
all the singles, I want to get local artists to
kind of create the what what would you call it,
the Spotify single template for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, very cool,
very cool are these? Uh So Schema obviously kind of
has a theme.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I took that out this time.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it's in there because I think
in that kind of way, but in terms of titles
and overall concept, I just wanted to kind of rein free.
There was I put a lot of restrictions on Schema,
like there's only you know, you play guitar or correct. Yeah,
so there's only like certain shapes that I restricted myself
to to create songs with. For this time around, I
was like, let me experiment more of harmony and let
me experiment more with just I just wanted to be
completely and I even went to like a studio this
time around to like record them and act in Massachusetts.
So I just wanted to try something new.
Speaker 1: Okay. So that's where Stacey was recorded.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and well Spring sounds okay. Josh is awesome. I
love the guy.
Speaker 1: Now how did you connect with him and why did
you decide to work with him?
Speaker 2: I was looking at places that offered tape recording because
I was because you know, why not and they don't
do that? But they came up and I saw their
rates and I was like, that's affordable.
Speaker 1: So so you were looking for so when you say
tape recording, so you were looking for that.
Speaker 2: I was looking for like real to real that wow,
and it's it's possible. It's just then I started I
get really in my head about these things. It's like
would that be a cliche? Would that be a little
bit of a gimmick? And so then I found them
and I was like, why don't I just give this
a try? And Josh, what's cool is I'm a big
Elliott Smith fan. And they have the original microphones that
Elliott Smith used on his Lucky three documentary, which is
like the mike, it's a Newman something. I forget what
they're called, but kay, So just I got to record
the whole album with those microphones.
Speaker 1: So oh, very cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. I mean it meant a lot
to me, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am curious. Were you able to find I
assume not in the area. Were you able to find
a studio that does reel to real when you were
looking online?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah absolutely. And I had a friend, my
friend Josh, he actually has like a four track set recorder,
and I was thinking about doing something like that. But
I don't know, it's so funny you because I was
just thinking about this. I kind of want to make
an album and I know saying this live on the air,
like it's silly, but I want to create album where
I just record right on my iPhone because to me,
the iPhone voicemail app seems to be like the new
Lo Fi. And I would like, what can I do
with that? And maybe I could do something kind of
Nick Drake like and like do a lot of fingerpicking
and vocal intimate stuff and like it won't sound like
high professional, but that's like that's the point, yeah, right right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love when it sounds like you're there, you know,
when it's not like. I love the room noise. I
love everything about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love the mistakes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did I know we talked about this before?
But how How was Schema recorded.
Speaker 2: In my in my farmhouse just with like a simple
microphone and a Logic Pro and a laptop that couldn't
handle Logic Pro. And then I just kind of figured
it out. I mixed it myself, so I just did
it by ear. I don't really know how to do
compression or mike. You know EQ and you know it shows.
But I'm really happy. I'm really proud of that album.
Every time I listen to it, I'm always like, oh
I still.
Speaker 1: Like this, Yeah, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: That hasn't happened before.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Really? Yeah? Have you been self critical in the
past of some of.
Speaker 2: Your pre prozac Yeah that makes sense, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: You want to play something a lot? For sure?
Speaker 2: Could I play an Elliot Smith song?
Speaker 1: You can play anything you'd like?
Speaker 2: All right, this is an Elliott Smith song. It's called Angelus.
Speaker 4: Someone's always coming around here trailing some nucule.
Speaker 3: Soles seeing your picture on a hundred ta game of
chance to you in the swan.
Speaker 5: Of real skill. So glad to meet you and pick
it up.
Speaker 4: The ticket showstairs, money to be me, go on loose
that gamble.
Speaker 6: That stuff history you have the trade? Did you add
up all the cards left to play.
Speaker 4: Zero.
Speaker 5: Sign up with Evil Edge Loss.
Speaker 7: Don't start me try now, uh huh uh huh ahhah uh,
because I'm all over it, ed.
Speaker 4: I can make you satisfied with everything you do. All
your secret wishes could right now come back to.
Speaker 5: You BeForever with fire poison arms around you. No one's
gone a fool around first. No one's going a fool
to mean you andless.
Speaker 1: Very cool.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: What's that called Angelus by Elliot Smith?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like it. I don't think I've ever heard that before.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always been aware of Elliott Smith and
somewhat familiar, but I don't Uh yeah, I don't know
that song. But no, I really like it.
Speaker 2: He's my hero.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what is it about him?
Speaker 2: Is it is?
Speaker 1: That's a great song? Is it a songwriting?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's definitely the songwriting. When I was in my
senior year of high school, this really cool guy did
a English project and we had to choose a song
and like talk about how it has symbolic meaning. And
he did a song called Between the Bars and I
just watched it and it was like everything I wanted
to be yeah, and then that It's so funny because
it was just coincidence. I watched Goodwill Hunting and he
did the music for Goodwill Hunting.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, and I was watching.
Speaker 2: I was listening to it. I was like, wow, this
is really good. Who is it? And I looked it
up at was Elliot Smith And it actually is the
reason I got into psychology that movie. So really yeah,
so he just I don't know, his playing blows my mind,
his songwriting, his voice blows mine and I love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember if we talked about this before,
but so Goodwill Hunting is what inspired you to get
into psychology.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this. There's a great scene in that movie
where Robin Williams is talking to Matt Damon about laying bricks,
and Matt Damon's like making the argument like why are
we looking at laying bricks like it's a bad job.
That's a noble job. There's honor in that, And it
like blew my mind hearing that for the first time
and seeing then Matt have a kind of breakthrough. It
was like I want to I want to experience that
in my lifetime.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, the uh if this sounds familiar to you.
Then we did talk about this before, But my dad
has told me that people have told him that the
Robin Williams character reminds that reminds them of him.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, I know you're a hypnotist, correct, Yes?
Speaker 7: Have you?
Speaker 2: Do you find that? Because hypnotism can create incredible change
in a person, is there like a breakthrough moment? Would
you say, like, can a person realize there I don't
like using the word cured, but when they realize that
a problem can maybe get diminished or fixed. Do you
experience that yourself or is it more outside the office
where they notice that.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this, it's a great question because
sometimes during a session, at the end of it, they're different, Like,
not everybody, but sometimes they are, Like I can see
the subtle differences even in just how they like their
facial expressions, Like they exude a confidence, in a sense
of empowerment that clearly was not there before the sets. Well, yeah,
and it is. I do love that. I guess such
a rush for that's you know. I like to think
I have certain skill sets. I'm good at something. I
think I'm okay at hosting a talk show, I'm good.
I'm good at that. But the one thing I really
love is hypnotherapy.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's cool about hitting the therapy too
is and people don't talk about this, but hypnotherapy is
the reason why psychoanalysis and therapy exists because Freud saw
hypnotherapy and was fascinated by it. Yeah, so, like it's
such an important part of mental health that we don't
talk about a lot. Yeah, it's diminished a little bit,
it's coming back and it's diminished, it goes in waves.
Sometimes it's used as a party trick, and it's like
it's not just that it's it's a form of behavioral therapy,
right yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely absolutely, No, I love I love helping
people with it. I do I do a visualization while
they're in a state of hypnosis where I have them
imagine they're the ideal version of themselves, the version of
themselves that they most want to be. Oh wow, and
uh yeah, people seem to really get a lot out
of that, you know. But yeah, and so you now
are you where are you in your career with with
uh psycho psychology.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in my third semester of grad school. Excellent
I'm actually in my counseling skills class that I adore.
I I've been a case manager since the beginning, but
I'm really looking forward to internship. I love case management,
but uh, I'm really looking forward to internship because I
want to be in the office and you know, just
reading up on Yaalam and reading up on Carl Rogers.
I think the therapy that I'm interested in the most
is Rogarian therapy and like existential therapy. So I'm still
trying to and a little bit of solution focused. There's
some that's in there. But yeah, I just I'm I
got about another year and a half until I am
That's like part of my life. Yeah, cool, very exciting,
Canton down the days, That's that's excellent.
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think your music will change
when you when you get to that point? How so,
like I don't know, Like do you think because obviously
you know you have these things in mind, like with schema,
you have these things in mind as you're writing these songs.
I mean, do you think it'll do you think it'll
change your perspective at all in terms of how you
actually approach your music.
Speaker 2: I think where I get my most happiness from is
playing live, And I mean I've been busy with the
music stuff and it's been like two three hour shows
playing at bars, playing like you know, can't help falling
in love with Elves or hay Jude by the Beatles,
And I find a lot of arcists in that, and
I don't I think the image that I'm kind of
portraying right in front of you right now is kind
of what I want to continue doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, at one point I was thinking about do I
want a band or nine? That's like that sounds so expensive,
right right, So in a lot of ways, yeah, yeah,
I think I want to find a healthy balance like
and sounds silly, but almost like the Batman thing, you know.
By day I do I see patients and I see
clients and I help the best I can, and I
grow and build relationships. And at night I played music
and I grow and build relationships. So yeah, that's and
then you know, somewhere in between that also, I'm a
happy husband and father, So to me that sounds like
the ideal life for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think people overlook the benefit the psychological benefits
of music? Like do you think the it's funny because
I've never really thought about it before from this angle,
but as we're talking to a personally, like, you know,
music in and of itself is such great therapy, even
just listening to it, you know, it can really affect
how you feel. And but sometimes I wonder if people don't.
I mean a lot of people do, even if they
just don't realize it necessarily consciously. But I think music
itself is kind of overlooked in that it can so
so much influence how we feel, how we feel about ourselves,
and and but it can also be sabotaging I feel.
Speaker 2: Too, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something I've never understood about people is why. I mean,
I do get it, but I but I it's not
my instinct to do this when someone is sad and
they want to listen to sad songs because they feel sad.
And I've always been from my entire from when I
was a kid, when I was a little kid. If
I'm sad, the last thing I want to do is
listen to sad music. I want to listen to something
that's going to change my state of mind.
Speaker 2: I think the thing that is actually maybe maybe not
maybe I'm getting a tangential, but the thing that's more
interesting to me is music you can develop an identity with.
You know, if there's a banana across the room, I'm
not going to have an identity with that banana. I'm
not gonna go like, oh, yeah, that's my favorite type
of banana. It's from New Zealand or something like that.
You know, I don't know if New Zealand grows bananas,
but yeah, you know, with music, it can get really
idiolating because there can be times where I've had moments
where music is my best friend on certain days, and
there's certain days where it's just like, oh my god,
I've listened to Room for Squares by John Mayer NonStop
for a week and then I have an identity crisis. Yeah,
so that part doesn't get talked bad enough, where, especially
if you're into the arts and you pursue the arts,
you have moments of imposter syndrome and identity crisis. And yes,
music can be your best friend at the end of
the day. And I think Smells Like Teen Spirit is
one of the greatest songs of all time, but after
listening to it two thousand times, when I listen to
it now, it's like, I know what happens on second
forty five. I can't listen to that song anymore, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's a it's a balance, and I'm always trying.
The other hard thing I want to say is discovering
new music for me is really difficult. I try really hard.
I look for stuff and it's just there's something going
on where my brain's like, nah, keep going. And when
I do find somebody, like right now it's been hip hop,
I'm like obsessed with just like we were talking about
before the show making, like beat making.
Speaker 1: And stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. It's like, finally here's that energetic high
I've been looking for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: So you but so you.
Speaker 1: So you have a hard time though, finding new music
that you.
Speaker 2: Like, especially with acoustic music, because usually when people recommend
me acoustic stuff that it would make sense that I
should like it, but it just doesn't hit me. Like
a good example is Bonaver, very talented musician. People who
love Bonaver. You have great taste. I'm not here to
try and question that, And then when it comes to
my ears and I process it, it's like this isn't
for me. It's just not hitting it. I've I don't.
Maybe the maybe the problem is I don't actually know
what I want. Yeah, yeah, I don't actually have my
taste well defined yet in my head?
Speaker 1: Well does it? Is it also possible that the production
is bothering you because because yeah, because you know, you're
a low five guy.
Speaker 2: But I love again, I love smells like teen Spirit,
which is the exact opposite of that. So it's like
it depends on the context of the music itself, but.
Speaker 1: Even smells like teen Spirit, the production is different than
what like now, everything is so compressed. Yes, yeah, the
only people I feel really get it right is uh.
I'm not a big country guy, but I gotta say
from a production standpoint, Nashville has it down. Oh yeah, yeah,
the drums always sound great.
Speaker 2: You know. This is where it sounds like I almost
don't want to come across as like a double like
I'm here I making double standards, but like, yeah, for example,
like my friend sent me a song by an artist
called Dare the songs called girls Don't Play It. It's
very raunchy. I love that song. Yeah, it's awesome. I
love I love when that stuff is incorporated into like
dance music and stuff like that it's like, yes, but
when it's incorporated, it's like the acoustic guitar. When I
hear an acoustic guitar, especially like like maybe controversible, when
I hear guitar that has like elixir strings on it.
For those who know what Elexa strings are, they're coded strings.
It's like an immediate turnoff from my ears. Oh yeah,
I don't like it. It sounds too clean. Yeah, And
I want to make it clear, like I don't think
that this should be the standard for anyone by any means,
like because I'm not the best guitar player of all time.
I'm not the best songwriter of all time.
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 2: It's nothing like that. It's just for what I look
for to help me grow as a musician. I put
these kind of things on a pedestal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense. If
you are just joining us, Temple Mountain is here with
us alive in studio, and you want.
Speaker 2: To play another one, Sure, I'll actually play. Because you
played Stacy song earlier, I played the next single I'm
probably gonna release after that. Oh cool, and I'm probably
gonna mess it up, So that's okay. We're only live.
Speaker 1: It's an original and we won't know.
Speaker 5: Very good.
Speaker 2: It's called grateful, all right.
Speaker 4: Choice of girls so profound, different shades of black and gray.
And you're saying the world is round, But i'd seen
in different ways, and I've noticed you're holding my soul
what tight with a breath that is.
Speaker 5: Only one way. Oh, it's all right to say that
I need you so grateful that meant you.
Speaker 4: This way, waiting for the moon to bloom, watch the
way the stars dictating.
Speaker 5: My heart is only sat on you.
Speaker 4: So now I thank you for today. And remember you
told me the whole tight, for the world can be a.
Speaker 5: Dif friend each day.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's all right to say that I need you
so grateful. The met you sway stand by heard again
backs our face and then with voices all around, but
we never made a sound. All your story is so profound.
Now you choose to live each day and it's never
up or down. It's not a side that leans your way.
And remember you told me to say, for the world
has asked you that say. Oh, it's all right to
say that I need you so grateful the met you sway.
Oh it's all right to say that I need you
so grateful to met you today.
Speaker 1: Beautiful beautiful Temple Mountain live in studio. Well that's so
that's gonna be the next single?
Speaker 2: Yeah I think so. Yeah, yeah, probably in like December.
Very good, very good? Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it difficult to choose what to what to go
with next because obviously you've written a lot of songs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and no, I just kind of do it,
but yeah, I don't put too much thought into it.
Like the this sounds silly, but like I'm just so,
I know social media is important. I don't even think
you were just talking about that with the last artist,
how important it is on so or maybe that was yesterday.
The social media is just so important to do as
an artist, But I just don't see it as important.
You know, if I wanted to, I can pay twenty
bucks and get like fifty fake likes on my Facebook account, right,
so like it's artificial, like it's all controlled. Like it's
not the same as when I go live and I
play a song with someone and connect with them and
they come up to me after the show and say, hey,
that was really cool. Even if it's just one person,
that means way more to me. So yeah, I don't
put too much thought. I do allow the releasing and
stuff like that just so I can get gigs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Jenny was just reminding me
too online. Do you teach now, Oh you don't teach music. Yeah,
I think that's what she meant.
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, I'm not much of a teacher. It's
unfortunately thinking of somebody else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you uh, you did mention earlier. Sometimes you
think about, you know, playing in a band or getting
a band together. I mean, how how, how seriously do
you do you think about that? Is it possible in
the future or is it something that you kind of
dismissed when it pops into your head?
Speaker 2: Or I got a telecaster recently, so oh yeah, telecasts
and a jazz coort samp because I really like the
sound of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think about it.
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know. I don't know how to
do it. If if I don't think, I would want
to search for it like I would if it happens naturally.
That's how I'd be down for it, because I don't
want to have like Temple Mountain, then I control the
music and everything like that. I want it would be
cool if it was something like Queen where it's like
I write songs, bass player right songs, and drummer writes
songs and we just appreciate each other's songwriting together and
we could all sing. That would be awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Were you in a band before.
Speaker 2: Growing up? I was in a death metal band called
the Story of Anatomy in New York, but we didn't
do anything. Yeah, and then I played I was Eric
Phillip in New York City and then because that's my
middle name, and that just didn't go very well. And
then this this has been really taking off. It's been crazy,
and it tell us again, how did you become Temple Mountain? Well,
I live in Peterborough, which is right off and I
live off a temple mountain. And then, you know, when
you're starting to be a licensed therapist, you you learn
a lot about both boundaries and confidentiality, and I think
it's important that you know. I want to keep this
life separate. So it's it's like I said earlier, it's
kind of like my batman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense. And uh,
by the way, are you married now?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Not yet?
Speaker 1: Oh not yet?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, very good wait very good?
Speaker 1: Is uh Stacy's song? Is that about your It is early? Yeah, excellent? Yeah,
I think I think she was in the chat room
last time you were on with us. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She she works for Kobe Sawyer and today is homecoming,
so she had to leave work for work today at
like six am. She's doing a lot of stuff. So yeah,
we're not going to be seeing each other until tomorrow.
Probably not in the chat room today, and she is,
then Kobe Sawyer should think about that because she's not
doing her job.
Speaker 1: Well do you want to?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got time you play another one for sure.
Sure if you are just joining us, A Temple Mountain
is here with us, live in studio, and we should
tell people too. Last night you were on Granted State
of Mind with Rob as a veto. Yeah, so if
you want to check that out too, that is of
course up on the site.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Rob.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Rob doing amazing things. You've You've played at
Pembroke City Limits.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I played the Nirvana night there.
Speaker 1: Oh did you Yeah?
Speaker 2: It was incredible.
Speaker 1: What song did you do?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Uh, I think I played I'm on a Plane. Oh okay,
yeah that's yeah, Yeah, I did that, and then I
played something in the way I meant. So what happened
was I went in there going to play something in
the way, and then like the day before, he asked
me if I could play I think it was I'm
on a plane.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I was just like yeah, okay, and so I had
to kind of figure it out. Yeah, And I remember
I drove there like two hours early. I learned the
song like two hours before the show, and oh no kidding, Yeah,
I was so nervous and it kept blanking because I
kept going through the lyrics in my head. And then
when you're on stage, something just kind of happens, yeah,
and it all comes back to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I got lucky. It was a good shime and
I met so many cool people that night. That was
the best part about that show. Yeah, because here you
just playing bar gigs. You're always by yourself. You don't
get to really see other artists because you're always overlapping.
Rob did him in gret where he got all these
people coming together.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, for those who don't know what we're talking about.
So it was a show where everybody, everybody played just one, right,
just one Nirvana so two yeah, yeah, do you know
how many performers there were that night?
Speaker 2: Total must have been close to seven or eight.
Speaker 1: No kidding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I met Ben. Do you know Ben Harris? No?
Speaker 1: I heard him on Rob's show a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, such a nice guy. So we met. We were
speaking online already, and then we met from the show,
and then he invited me to play at Panucci's Conquered,
So like, we need more shows like that. Yeah, it's
a great artist like to help artists. So yes, I
really appreciate Rob.
Speaker 7: For doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's awesome. Yeah, check out Pembroke City
Limits if you haven't been there, it's a great place.
Rob's doing great things there. And uh, all right, you
were gonna play and I totally derailed you.
Speaker 2: No, you're fine, but.
Speaker 1: Devile Mountain is here with us, live in studio, and
what are you gonna play for us?
Speaker 2: This is a song off Schema. It's called Stages of
Attachment and with a name like that, you would never guess,
but it's about my cat. Oh yeah, all right, very good.
So let's see.
Speaker 5: You try to wake me up, assuming I should rise, So.
Speaker 4: Pull my blank kid and stay here for Oh how well,
just fell for you, and simple life you you could
break all the rules.
Speaker 3: Love you all the time.
Speaker 5: It's just a little thing sheltered by these walls.
Speaker 4: Seas like your gaunt eyes, little ginger bards.
Speaker 5: It's just a little thing. Your heart is pure and true.
Bring love to you all.
Speaker 4: You mean everything you do. I remember the day, all
the morning drive seven are in the room and you
with the sick guy. How your well just came.
Speaker 5: To me and famild rise.
Speaker 4: And home you fell asleep, founder powder cried.
Speaker 5: It just ole thing sheltered by these walks, seems.
Speaker 4: Like through gold and eyes a little ginger parts.
Speaker 5: You're just a little thing. Your heart is pure and true.
Bring in love to you all. You mean everything you do.
And when I get home, it's hello, not goodbye. And
when I leave tomorrow you'll always try and cry. You
walk your.
Speaker 4: Sister up zom and she will play, but you know
when she's fed up with all your silly games.
Speaker 5: And the world around.
Speaker 4: You know how it makes me want to cry, but
you know I'll never frown as.
Speaker 5: You lay by my side. You're just a little thing too,
about these walls. You see his life real gold eyes,
little ginger boss, You're just a little thing.
Speaker 8: Your heart is pure and true, bringing love to all
you mean, everything you do, bringing love too all you
mean and everything you too.
Speaker 1: Very cool, Thank you.
Speaker 2: What's that called stages of attachment?
Speaker 1: Stages of attachment? Yes, yes, Jenny and I have two
cats and we love them very much. So I find
that song very relatable.
Speaker 2: Oh I appreciate that. Yeah you don't do you know
Dylan Patrick Ward? Does that name sound familiar?
Speaker 1: Sounds familiar.
Speaker 2: It's a local songwriter from Vermont. He has a song
called the Cat's Song, and when I heard it, I
was like, oh, you can write about your cats. That
was the inspiration we.
Speaker 1: Had recently, well a couple months ago, we had the
band Turbo Cats.
Speaker 2: I played with them. Oh okay, yeah I played with
that show at Terminus. Oh right, so funny. Oh yeah yeah,
god they cracked like in a great way. Yeah awesome,
And it was just like they were so seriously like
this next song is called licking your leg or something
like that. It was brilliant.
Speaker 1: They have that song I Senior Lady Cat, which because
we have a female cat that's you know, getting up there,
so we could relate to that.
Speaker 2: It's really trendy. Right now to sing about your cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's a great thing. Some people
really don't like cats, and yeah, I don't get that.
I think I think those people have some sort of
psychological issue. Yeah, you could not love cats?
Speaker 2: Well, just how can you not love any animal? Right,
besides a wasp because they hurt?
Speaker 1: Well, it's not an animal, right, that's an insect?
Speaker 2: Is an insect? Non animal?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: But then, but then we were talking about this on
a on a Friday night on a cereal of soup.
Speaker 1: I'm a co host on Retrospect Radio with poly c
and Paul was saying that ants actually technically are animals,
not insects. And it freaked me out because when I
was a kid, my friends and I would light ants
on fire in the summertime with the lighter and uh,
now I feel terrible about I didn't care when I
thought they were insects.
Speaker 2: You know, they're pre their their pre the size of
their brains alone for the for who what the size
of them as an animal is alone, like enough to
be like, wow, these are very impressive creatures. Cats are ants,
cortexes are he really?
Speaker 1: Is that true? See? Now I feel really bad. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wow, how old are you? Oh I was
probably like ten oh yeah times past. Yeah, yeah, I
mean I would probably done way worse since then.
Speaker 1: Oh definitely. Oh yeah, you have no idea of course
if you are just joining us on this Saturday morning,
Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio. Are
you playing a lot? You're playing pretty consistently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a showed later today, and then this
month I was playing a lot. September I played probably
like close to twenty shows. Ohkid, yeah, next month I
have probably I think I'm at fifteen right now. I'm
trying to get more. So yeah, it's gonna taper down
by the new year, but it's slowly growing back. And yeah,
I love I have. Two weeks ago, I played three
three hour shows in one day, and wow, that was
an incredible accomplishment on my end that I was really
proud of and I always wanted to because Billy Shean
of the ban Talis said that he once did three
shows and one day. I was like, I could do that. Yeah,
So it was it was a nice kind of Yeah
the Farsis three three hour shows. Yeah, I couldn't sing
for a little bit after that one that was at
a great time.
Speaker 1: How did that even happen? Like, how did you end?
On my own?
Speaker 2: It's my own stupidity. I just keep saying yes, yeah, yeah, yes,
and then I'll be like so that. That was a
crazy day too, because I had to go my first
gig was in Where's Beach and then I had to
drive to Manchester to play at Great North and then
I had to go to Foundry and play a Foundry
So and Great North was such a shout out to
Jesse by the way for that gig. Yes, and I'm
glad I brought that up because I want to apologize
to Jesse because Jesse asked me to like check if
my songs were gonna be a part of B M
I or something like that, and just didn't have time.
He did it for me. Yeah, it was very nice
of him, but like I had to change my whole
setlist around and it turned out it was a great show,
but it was it was so funny. I was like,
so can I I was gonna play like Dave Matthews,
Like you can't play Dave Matthews. That was such a
great gig though I had. I loved that place. Yeah,
and the beer was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, Jenny and I stopped in there recently
because it was Jesse's birthday. She's a proud mama.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and you know he's been on the show
a bunch of times too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sounding really good, wicked, talented, really good.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But that that's not something usually run into though,
right at a venue where they, you know, because of
the music rights where that kind of gets something. I mean,
if you run into that before.
Speaker 2: I did at not when I was playing music. I
used to be a butcher, and they took the music
there very seriously because they were worried. I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it is.
Speaker 2: It's it's not the venue's fault or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It's right.
Speaker 2: The way the music industry works is you gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I kind of like when stuff like that happens, Like
if you have like a two hour set or three
hour set and then all of a sudden you have
to remove twenty songs and figure it out. Like it's
kind of fun.
Speaker 1: It's a challenge.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Good, good attitude to
have about it, certainly. Yeah, Yeah, I've just over the years,
I've heard stories of like BMI and ASCAP, like actually
it's it sounds like you wouldn't think it would really happen,
but like sending undercover agents, yeah, into places to see
if they're.
Speaker 2: I remember when piracy was big, and like there was
like those stories of kids getting like sued because they
downloaded the Titanic, and that actually happened. Yeah, it sued
for lots of money. It's like these are kids, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's wild. It's wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And there used to be uh years ago, there was
a place in Conquerord called the Cafe Eclipse, and they
got into some kind of trouble and they just that's
a great name. Yeah, yeah, it was a cool place.
I played there a lot back in the day. But
they had to make a rule just no covers because
they had gotten in trouble and they'd been threatened by
I don't know if it was ASCAP, BMI, or it
might have been Sea Sack, because I remember the guy
telling me and I was like, oh, that's what I'm
not familiar with.
Speaker 2: I believe I'm playing a gig in March. It's a
place that I've been wanting to get it's hard to
get the gig. It's like a two year out gig.
It's called Stage thirty three. It's in Bellow Falls, Vermont. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure. That's part of the rules is I
can't play any covers because they don't have any licensing agreement.
So it's all gonna be originals for like, it's like
a forty minute set of original is fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if anything, it's refreshing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There's not many listening rooms. That's the It's not a
fault of New Hampshire, but it's the hardest thing in
New Hampshires. There's not many listening rooms.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, right, No, I agree. When you when you
play covers, do you mix in any originals?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Always Yeah, yeah, you gotta and uh they usually
you know, usually people want to hear it too. And
my covers very like I play John Mayor Dave Matthew Shirr,
but I also play Britney Spears, I play.
Speaker 7: I Do I Do.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: That was almost very u braggadocis I do a cover
of Cake by the Ocean that I really like. I
just I do things that I want to hear. Yeah,
I want to listen to you know what I mean,
and it's yeah, it's just so, then if you incorporate
those and I base my set lists on where I
have to place the capo, Oh that makes sense. Yeah, yeah,
like if I do all my like second fret capo
songs together, so it helps with tuning stability, and yeah,
so I incorporate my originals conclusion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well i'd imagine too, some of the covers you do,
like that Elliott Smith song, I didn't recognize. I'm sure.
I'm sure if you ever had anyone come up to
you and say, hey, I really like that song and
they have no idea that it's not an original. Does
that happen?
Speaker 2: The only covers I would say that I do that
people don't recognize are Elliott Smith and I have so
and which saddends me. But I do them just I
do them as like a kind of way of saying
thank you to Elliott.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, usually people like people pick up on things
like it's crazy you know you play you people wonder why,
Like somebody will be like, I'll never play Hate Jude
because it's such a cliche. But you play it at
a bar, you're gonna get a reaction. That's gonna give
you such an endorphin rush. That's It's incredible, the dopamine
high you get from playing Hate Youth Love. If I can't,
I recollect it to everyone, play Hey Jude Live, No Kidding? Yeah,
and played the Boxer by Paul by Something. Oh yeah,
that's a great one. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Are Do you have a favorite cover? Is there is
there one that you especially.
Speaker 2: That like I look forward to?
Speaker 1: I can.
Speaker 2: I play Neon by John Mayer and that's a bit
of a flex and that seems to be gaining me
some attention. So I like playing that one. Yeah yeah, yeah,
that's it's been fun. I also like playing Your Body
as a Wonderland.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that song.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah uh. And I also love playing I
Can't help falling in Love with You. Yeah, play Elvis
a lot. That's a great song. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would imagine that goes over pretty well. I can
I can see how.
Speaker 2: Just watching I've seen like moms bring their little kids
on stage up the front to dance.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah that's very cool, very cool.
Have you ever have you ever played any covers that
you had to ditch because you they weren't going over
well or.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Yeah, finly, I tried doing party
rock by LMFAO. That didn't work. I still do it sometimes,
but there's a line in it it's like half half black,
half white Domino and like, once I sung it out loud,
was like, oh yeah, I'm asi white male. So there
was that, and then there was also there's a song
called issues like I Got I Got Issues, you got too.
I don't know who actually does a song, but it
just didn't translate well to acoustic. But I'm working on
a version, you know, the song I Will Survive. I'm
working on that at the moment. That's like my latest thing.
I'm really excited. I think I want to actually like
put it on the album. I always want to have
a song, like a cover song on the album.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I might do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, spoiler alert, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Know, I think that would that would be pretty cool.
Now the singles that you're releasing, are these all being
recorded at the same studio or yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well I'll go in there and we'll spend
like three hours record like three songs because they're just
tract are very simple. It's still I like what I
like is it's not it's not low fi, but it's
like just the next step up. Yeah, and I just
want to keep polishing it up, you know, keep polishing
the turd if you will, until it's maybe where people
would consider it acceptable or something like that.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'll look forward to hearing the next one
when it's ready. That's for sure, that's for sure. Let's
see you want to play one more? Sure? Sure? Sure?
If you're just joining us, we have Temple Mountain here
with us alive in studio.
Speaker 2: Here's a random question. What are your thoughts on do
you know about New Haven's clam pizza?
Speaker 1: No, but I'm horrified, yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 2: As someone from New York, it's just like, there's no
way that works clam pizza.
Speaker 1: I have a rule because, uh, you know, pizza is
my favorite food and uh oh really and and if
somebody asked me, you know, Matt, why you know you
say certain types of pizza are gross and other types
are good. Here's here's how. This is what I tell people.
If you want your pizza to be delicious, you should
only choose delicious toppings. If you choose disgusting toppings, your
pizza will be disgusting and that's all you have to know.
Speaker 2: Now. With that said, you know pizza is hard to find.
Come around here there's good pizza and there's Sorry New Hampshire,
there's not. If you're from New York, you're not gonna
love the pizza, right. Have you been to Pellis in Peterborough?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, they're good, really, Yeaelli, they're only getting better too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They are very traditional in like New York style slices
and they still slices by the singles Monday through Friday,
eleven am to four pm.
Speaker 1: You being from New York, you you, I mean, you
wouldn't say that if it wasn't true.
Speaker 2: So it's now is it New York pizza? No? But
but there's something in the water, so it's the closes
probably so far. Yeah, I've heard think that people have
told me about Tilton's House of Pizza, and I need
to check out. Apparently I've had good pizza. I kind
of like bad pizza too. I just love pizza. Yeah,
I'm the same way. Yeah, it doesn't have to be
great exactly.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 2: Cumber Cumby's Farm's pizza makes me happy. Sure, I'm gonna
get all I hate for that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, seven eleven pizza isn't bad if like when
it's fresh, but it has to be fresh because once
it turns, it turns. Oh yeah, I fell into a
habit of you. I don't need seven eleven pizza anymore,
but I felt of eating it. But it had to
be like like I mean, like within the last five minutes.
Speaker 2: It had to have been put Yeah, Otherwise something happens
to cheese at.
Speaker 1: Minute six it turns into something horrible.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not stupid. I know it's not real.
I know it's yeah, yeah, I know that's not really.
That's not real. Right, that's not tomato, right right, making
me hungry?
Speaker 1: All right, Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio,
and what are you gonna play for us?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play a John Mayer song if that's okay, Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
I'll play your Body's of Wonderland me happy, all right,
very good.
Speaker 5: We got the afternoon. You got this room for two.
Speaker 4: One thing that's love to do, discovernment, discovering you one
mind to every inch of your skin like Parson Lamb,
one pair of cant lips and your buble gun too
and If you want love, make it swimming a deep
sea of blankets. Take your big plants and break up.
This is bound to be a wow.
Speaker 9: Your body is wanting land. Your body is a wonder
I'll use my hands. Your body is wanton land. Something
about the way the half falls in your face. I
love the shape you take when Crawnto honts belowcans.
Speaker 5: You tell me where to go, and the way might lead.
Found it and never let your head hit the bed.
Found my hand behind it. One off, Make it swim
in the deep sea plants. Take on your big plants
and break them.
Speaker 4: This is bound to be a wow.
Speaker 5: Your body is wanting lands.
Speaker 2: Your body is wandering.
Speaker 5: All you use my hands.
Speaker 10: Your body is wander les. Damn very man, you frustrate.
Speaker 5: May I know your mind, own mine, own mind. But
she looked so good it hurts.
Speaker 9: Sometimes body is wander lands. Your body is wandering All
you use my hands. Your body is wanting that.
Speaker 1: That's a long fade. But you know what's funny, I
was thinking about this as you were playing it. I
haven't heard you know his version, the original version, in
a long time. But speaking of fades, there's I always
thought it was kind of funny how the song kind
of tricks you a little bit in that it sounds
like it's over. There's a point where the song sounds
like it's over, where.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, and it goes to that like.
Speaker 1: You know exactly what I mean, which is not because
I've said this to other people and they don't know
what I'm talking about. Yeah, there's a point in the
song where it's like, if you haven't heard it before,
you're sure the fade out is right there, and then
it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: He does that. Actually a lot on Squares is a
song called My Stupid Mouth, and there's a part where
it just ends and then he goes one more thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was like, clarity, that's a a song
that I really like. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2: I don't know my whole schedule, but I'm all over
the place if you want to find out www dot
Temple Maso music dot com. I just updated the website too,
so oh, very good, very good.
Speaker 1: You do all that yourself, the yeah web web stuff, Yeah, yeah, excellent. Yeah, No,
it's a nice website.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a website nerd. I look at websites
and judge them.
Speaker 2: That's I don't know what I'm doing. So that means
a lot to me.
Speaker 1: Well, because a lot of a lot of our guests,
I look at their websites and it's like, oh, they're
so like you know, I'll have a band on It's like, oh,
there's such a great band and their website it's horrible.
Speaker 2: You know, invest put if you make money at gigs,
put money back into things. You know. I paid for
a graphic designer. Shout to Emily Perry for designing my
logo and ever since that, that was like a game changer,
Like I don't get so many gigs from that logo.
Speaker 1: Don kidding? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great that you say
that though, because that demonstrates that sometimes, you know, even
just tweaking one thing oh yeah, that most people might
not think would make a difference sometimes just just everything. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And learning how to talk to people is so important, yes,
you know, don't. Yeah, I have a real pet peeve
when I hear like, I know, we I go, but
when I hear an artist like almost like say something
condescending to like a person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like just be nice, right right, just do it? Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not hard. It's not hard, it doesn't cost anything. No,
it's not easy either sometimes, but yeah, make it easy,
find a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, and that's how you build relationships exactly. Yeah. Absolutely.
And then uh and Stacey the new single, which we'll
we'll play again to close out to a segment two
you because this is out today on all the streaming
platforms and there's a video coming soon and like a.
Speaker 2: Week, okay, yeah it might yeah, I'll probably release it
in a week.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, excellent, excellent, Well, thank you my friend.
This is always wonderful to see you. I think this
is your Is this your third time on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for always having me you guys, that's
really sweet.
Speaker 1: Absolutely no, we we love to have you on. And
I'll remind people too. Eric was also on Rob's show
Grantite State of Mind, so you can find that in
the archive as well. And we will close out the
segment once again with the brand new single out today.
It is called Stacey by Temple Mountain. Thanks again,