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Speaker 1: What a beautiful song that is called Stacy. And we

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have the writer and composer and singer and guitarist and

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from Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio.

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We get that mic up, Hello, Eric, Hey, how are

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we doing?

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Speaker 2: Let's see how do I sound good?

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna boosome that volume a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Heard.

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Speaker 1: Eric's gonna play live for us this morning, So I

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want to make sure we can hear you. Okay, I

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think we're I think we're good. Yeah, congratulations, that just

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came out Stacy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Stacy's song has been out since today, and yeah,

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it's the series of probably several singles that are gonna

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be coming in the near future. So I have like

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at least seven or eight more.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So has this been played on the radio before

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today World Radio Premiere? We have it excellent, excellent. So

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when you say it's out today, so it's on all

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the streaming platform platform.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I have a video an official video

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that uh I handa B Photography and I filmed together

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that I'm going to be releasing soon too.

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Speaker 1: Very good. Well, like how soon, like within the next

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couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: So you would think with someone who's passionate, they would

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have a date set, but I haven't. I haven't put it.

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We we kind of created that video so extemporaneously and

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very last minute. So it's done and it's ready. I

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could release it now, but I don't know when I

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want to do it right right?

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Speaker 1: No, it makes sense. Yeah, you want to wait till

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the time is right? Yeah, absolutely absolutely. And so you said,

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so you're releasing a series of singles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm doing you You ever heard the Waterfall Effect? Yes, yes,

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I've heard. I don't really want to do it because

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I don't like the idea of it, but it seems

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to everyone's just telling me to do it. So I'm like,

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why don't I do it this time around and then

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the next album I can do it the way I

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want to do it. Yeah. So yeah, I'm releasing probably

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every other month, I'm going to release a song.

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Speaker 1: You're a previous because you have the album Schema, which

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we've played songs from before. So but this time so

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will the singles that you're releasing will they eventually?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually it's going to release. The album is gonna

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be called Case Studies. And you had the artists who

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did the artwork for it on the show Kira Curtis.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that's right, we talked about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she did the final album artwork, and then for

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all the singles, I want to get local artists to

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kind of create the what what would you call it,

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the Spotify single template for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, very cool,

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very cool are these? Uh So Schema obviously kind of

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has a theme.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now I took that out this time.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it's in there because I think

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in that kind of way, but in terms of titles

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and overall concept, I just wanted to kind of rein free.

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like there's only you know, you play guitar or correct. Yeah,

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so there's only like certain shapes that I restricted myself

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to to create songs with. For this time around, I

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was like, let me experiment more of harmony and let

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me experiment more with just I just wanted to be

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completely and I even went to like a studio this

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time around to like record them and act in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So that's where Stacey was recorded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and well Spring sounds okay. Josh is awesome. I

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Speaker 1: Now how did you connect with him and why did

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you decide to work with him?

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Speaker 2: I was looking at places that offered tape recording because

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I was because you know, why not and they don't

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Speaker 1: So so you were looking for so when you say

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tape recording, so you were looking for that.

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Speaker 2: I was looking for like real to real that wow,

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and it's it's possible. It's just then I started I

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get really in my head about these things. It's like

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would that be a cliche? Would that be a little

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bit of a gimmick? And so then I found them

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a try? And Josh, what's cool is I'm a big

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Elliott Smith fan. And they have the original microphones that

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like the mike, it's a Newman something. I forget what

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they're called, but kay, So just I got to record

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the whole album with those microphones.

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Speaker 1: So oh, very cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. I mean it meant a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am curious. Were you able to find I

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assume not in the area. Were you able to find

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a studio that does reel to real when you were

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friend Josh, he actually has like a four track set recorder,

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and I was thinking about doing something like that. But

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just thinking about this. I kind of want to make

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an album and I know saying this live on the air,

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like it's silly, but I want to create album where

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I just record right on my iPhone because to me,

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the iPhone voicemail app seems to be like the new

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Nick Drake like and like do a lot of fingerpicking

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and vocal intimate stuff and like it won't sound like

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high professional, but that's like that's the point, yeah, right right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love when it sounds like you're there, you know,

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when it's not like. I love the room noise. I

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love everything about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love the mistakes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did I know we talked about this before?

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But how How was Schema recorded.

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Speaker 2: In my in my farmhouse just with like a simple

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microphone and a Logic Pro and a laptop that couldn't

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handle Logic Pro. And then I just kind of figured

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it by ear. I don't really know how to do

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compression or mike. You know EQ and you know it shows.

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But I'm really happy. I'm really proud of that album.

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Speaker 1: Like this, Yeah, yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 2: That hasn't happened before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Really? Yeah? Have you been self critical in the

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past of some of.

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Speaker 2: Your pre prozac Yeah that makes sense, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: You want to play something a lot? For sure?

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Speaker 2: Could I play an Elliot Smith song?

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Speaker 1: You can play anything you'd like?

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Speaker 2: All right, this is an Elliott Smith song. It's called Angelus.

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Speaker 4: Someone's always coming around here trailing some nucule.

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Speaker 3: Soles seeing your picture on a hundred ta game of

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chance to you in the swan.

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Speaker 5: Of real skill. So glad to meet you and pick

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it up.

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Speaker 4: The ticket showstairs, money to be me, go on loose

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that gamble.

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Speaker 6: That stuff history you have the trade? Did you add

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up all the cards left to play.

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Speaker 4: Zero.

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Speaker 5: Sign up with Evil Edge Loss.

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Speaker 7: Don't start me try now, uh huh uh huh ahhah uh,

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because I'm all over it, ed.

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Speaker 4: I can make you satisfied with everything you do. All

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your secret wishes could right now come back to.

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Speaker 5: You BeForever with fire poison arms around you. No one's

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gone a fool around first. No one's going a fool

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to mean you andless.

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Speaker 1: Very cool.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: What's that called Angelus by Elliot Smith?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I like it. I don't think I've ever heard that before.

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Speaker 2: That's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've always been aware of Elliott Smith and

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somewhat familiar, but I don't Uh yeah, I don't know

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that song. But no, I really like it.

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Speaker 2: He's my hero.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what is it about him?

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Speaker 2: Is it is?

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Speaker 1: That's a great song? Is it a songwriting?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's definitely the songwriting. When I was in my

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senior year of high school, this really cool guy did

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a English project and we had to choose a song

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and like talk about how it has symbolic meaning. And

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he did a song called Between the Bars and I

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just watched it and it was like everything I wanted

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to be yeah, and then that It's so funny because

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it was just coincidence. I watched Goodwill Hunting and he

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did the music for Goodwill Hunting.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, and I was watching.

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Speaker 2: I was listening to it. I was like, wow, this

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up at was Elliot Smith And it actually is the

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reason I got into psychology that movie. So really yeah,

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so he just I don't know, his playing blows my mind,

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his songwriting, his voice blows mine and I love it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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but so Goodwill Hunting is what inspired you to get

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into psychology.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this. There's a great scene in that movie

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where Robin Williams is talking to Matt Damon about laying bricks,

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and Matt Damon's like making the argument like why are

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we looking at laying bricks like it's a bad job.

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That's a noble job. There's honor in that, And it

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and seeing then Matt have a kind of breakthrough. It

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was like I want to I want to experience that

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in my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, the uh if this sounds familiar to you.

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Then we did talk about this before, But my dad

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has told me that people have told him that the

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Robin Williams character reminds that reminds them of him.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, I know you're a hypnotist, correct, Yes?

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Speaker 7: Have you?

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Speaker 2: Do you find that? Because hypnotism can create incredible change

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in a person, is there like a breakthrough moment? Would

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you say, like, can a person realize there I don't

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like using the word cured, but when they realize that

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a problem can maybe get diminished or fixed. Do you

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experience that yourself or is it more outside the office

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this, it's a great question because

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sometimes during a session, at the end of it, they're different, Like,

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not everybody, but sometimes they are, Like I can see

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the subtle differences even in just how they like their

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facial expressions, Like they exude a confidence, in a sense

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of empowerment that clearly was not there before the sets. Well, yeah,

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and it is. I do love that. I guess such

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a rush for that's you know. I like to think

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I have certain skill sets. I'm good at something. I

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think I'm okay at hosting a talk show, I'm good.

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I'm good at that. But the one thing I really

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love is hypnotherapy.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's cool about hitting the therapy too

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is and people don't talk about this, but hypnotherapy is

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the reason why psychoanalysis and therapy exists because Freud saw

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hypnotherapy and was fascinated by it. Yeah, so, like it's

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such an important part of mental health that we don't

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talk about a lot. Yeah, it's diminished a little bit,

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it's coming back and it's diminished, it goes in waves.

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it's not just that it's it's a form of behavioral therapy,

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right yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely absolutely, No, I love I love helping

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they're in a state of hypnosis where I have them

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imagine they're the ideal version of themselves, the version of

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themselves that they most want to be. Oh wow, and

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uh yeah, people seem to really get a lot out

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of that, you know. But yeah, and so you now

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are you where are you in your career with with

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uh psycho psychology.

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but uh, I'm really looking forward to internship because I

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want to be in the office and you know, just

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reading up on Yaalam and reading up on Carl Rogers.

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is Rogarian therapy and like existential therapy. So I'm still

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trying to and a little bit of solution focused. There's

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some that's in there. But yeah, I just I'm I

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got about another year and a half until I am

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That's like part of my life. Yeah, cool, very exciting,

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Canton down the days, That's that's excellent.

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Speaker 1: Do you think do you think your music will change

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when you when you get to that point? How so,

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like I don't know, Like do you think because obviously

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you know you have these things in mind, like with schema,

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you have these things in mind as you're writing these songs.

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I mean, do you think it'll do you think it'll

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change your perspective at all in terms of how you

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actually approach your music.

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Speaker 2: I think where I get my most happiness from is

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playing live, And I mean I've been busy with the

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music stuff and it's been like two three hour shows

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playing at bars, playing like you know, can't help falling

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in love with Elves or hay Jude by the Beatles,

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I don't I think the image that I'm kind of

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portraying right in front of you right now is kind

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of what I want to continue doing.

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Speaker 2: See, at one point I was thinking about do I

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want a band or nine? That's like that sounds so expensive,

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I think I want to find a healthy balance like

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and sounds silly, but almost like the Batman thing, you know.

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By day I do I see patients and I see

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clients and I help the best I can, and I

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grow and build relationships. And at night I played music

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and I grow and build relationships. So yeah, that's and

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then you know, somewhere in between that also, I'm a

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happy husband and father, So to me that sounds like

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the ideal life for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you think people overlook the benefit the psychological benefits

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of music? Like do you think the it's funny because

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but as we're talking to a personally, like, you know,

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music in and of itself is such great therapy, even

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just listening to it, you know, it can really affect

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how you feel. And but sometimes I wonder if people don't.

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just don't realize it necessarily consciously. But I think music

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itself is kind of overlooked in that it can so

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so much influence how we feel, how we feel about ourselves,

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and and but it can also be sabotaging I feel.

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Speaker 2: Too, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, something I've never understood about people is why. I mean,

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I do get it, but I but I it's not

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my instinct to do this when someone is sad and

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they want to listen to sad songs because they feel sad.

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And I've always been from my entire from when I

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was a kid, when I was a little kid. If

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I'm sad, the last thing I want to do is

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listen to sad music. I want to listen to something

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that's going to change my state of mind.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that is actually maybe maybe not

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maybe I'm getting a tangential, but the thing that's more

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interesting to me is music you can develop an identity with.

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You know, if there's a banana across the room, I'm

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not going to have an identity with that banana. I'm

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not gonna go like, oh, yeah, that's my favorite type

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of banana. It's from New Zealand or something like that.

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but yeah, you know, with music, it can get really

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idiolating because there can be times where I've had moments

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where music is my best friend on certain days, and

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there's certain days where it's just like, oh my god,

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I've listened to Room for Squares by John Mayer NonStop

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for a week and then I have an identity crisis. Yeah,

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so that part doesn't get talked bad enough, where, especially

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if you're into the arts and you pursue the arts,

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you have moments of imposter syndrome and identity crisis. And yes,

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music can be your best friend at the end of

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the day. And I think Smells Like Teen Spirit is

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one of the greatest songs of all time, but after

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listening to it two thousand times, when I listen to

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it now, it's like, I know what happens on second

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forty five. I can't listen to that song anymore, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So it's a it's a balance, and I'm always trying.

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The other hard thing I want to say is discovering

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new music for me is really difficult. I try really hard.

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I look for stuff and it's just there's something going

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on where my brain's like, nah, keep going. And when

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I do find somebody, like right now it's been hip hop,

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I'm like obsessed with just like we were talking about

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before the show making, like beat making.

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Speaker 1: And stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. It's like, finally here's that energetic high

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I've been looking for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: So you but so you.

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Speaker 1: So you have a hard time though, finding new music

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that you.

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Speaker 2: Like, especially with acoustic music, because usually when people recommend

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me acoustic stuff that it would make sense that I

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should like it, but it just doesn't hit me. Like

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a good example is Bonaver, very talented musician. People who

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love Bonaver. You have great taste. I'm not here to

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try and question that, And then when it comes to

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my ears and I process it, it's like this isn't

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for me. It's just not hitting it. I've I don't.

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Maybe the maybe the problem is I don't actually know

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what I want. Yeah, yeah, I don't actually have my

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taste well defined yet in my head?

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Speaker 1: Well does it? Is it also possible that the production

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is bothering you because because yeah, because you know, you're

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a low five guy.

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Speaker 2: But I love again, I love smells like teen Spirit,

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which is the exact opposite of that. So it's like

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it depends on the context of the music itself, but.

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Speaker 1: Even smells like teen Spirit, the production is different than

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what like now, everything is so compressed. Yes, yeah, the

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only people I feel really get it right is uh.

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I'm not a big country guy, but I gotta say

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from a production standpoint, Nashville has it down. Oh yeah, yeah,

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the drums always sound great.

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Speaker 2: You know. This is where it sounds like I almost

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don't want to come across as like a double like

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I'm here I making double standards, but like, yeah, for example,

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like my friend sent me a song by an artist

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called Dare the songs called girls Don't Play It. It's

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very raunchy. I love that song. Yeah, it's awesome. I

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love I love when that stuff is incorporated into like

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dance music and stuff like that it's like, yes, but

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when it's incorporated, it's like the acoustic guitar. When I

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hear an acoustic guitar, especially like like maybe controversible, when

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I hear guitar that has like elixir strings on it.

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For those who know what Elexa strings are, they're coded strings.

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It's like an immediate turnoff from my ears. Oh yeah,

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I don't like it. It sounds too clean. Yeah, And

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I want to make it clear, like I don't think

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that this should be the standard for anyone by any means,

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like because I'm not the best guitar player of all time.

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I'm not the best songwriter of all time.

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Speaker 7: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing like that. It's just for what I look

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for to help me grow as a musician. I put

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these kind of things on a pedestal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense. If

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you are just joining us, Temple Mountain is here with

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us alive in studio, and you want.

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Speaker 2: To play another one, Sure, I'll actually play. Because you

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played Stacy song earlier, I played the next single I'm

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probably gonna release after that. Oh cool, and I'm probably

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gonna mess it up, So that's okay. We're only live.

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Speaker 1: It's an original and we won't know.

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Speaker 5: Very good.

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Speaker 2: It's called grateful, all right.

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Speaker 4: Choice of girls so profound, different shades of black and gray.

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And you're saying the world is round, But i'd seen

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in different ways, and I've noticed you're holding my soul

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what tight with a breath that is.

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Speaker 5: Only one way. Oh, it's all right to say that

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I need you so grateful that meant you.

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Speaker 4: This way, waiting for the moon to bloom, watch the

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way the stars dictating.

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Speaker 5: My heart is only sat on you.

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Speaker 4: So now I thank you for today. And remember you

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told me the whole tight, for the world can be a.

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Speaker 5: Dif friend each day.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's all right to say that I need you

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so grateful. The met you sway stand by heard again

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backs our face and then with voices all around, but

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we never made a sound. All your story is so profound.

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Now you choose to live each day and it's never

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up or down. It's not a side that leans your way.

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And remember you told me to say, for the world

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has asked you that say. Oh, it's all right to

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say that I need you so grateful the met you sway.

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Oh it's all right to say that I need you

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so grateful to met you today.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful beautiful Temple Mountain live in studio. Well that's so

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that's gonna be the next single?

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Speaker 2: Yeah I think so. Yeah, yeah, probably in like December.

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Very good, very good? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it difficult to choose what to what to go

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with next because obviously you've written a lot of songs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and no, I just kind of do it,

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but yeah, I don't put too much thought into it.

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Like the this sounds silly, but like I'm just so,

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I know social media is important. I don't even think

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you were just talking about that with the last artist,

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how important it is on so or maybe that was yesterday.

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The social media is just so important to do as

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an artist, But I just don't see it as important.

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You know, if I wanted to, I can pay twenty

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bucks and get like fifty fake likes on my Facebook account, right,

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so like it's artificial, like it's all controlled. Like it's

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not the same as when I go live and I

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play a song with someone and connect with them and

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they come up to me after the show and say, hey,

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that was really cool. Even if it's just one person,

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that means way more to me. So yeah, I don't

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put too much thought. I do allow the releasing and

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stuff like that just so I can get gigs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Jenny was just reminding me

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too online. Do you teach now, Oh you don't teach music. Yeah,

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I think that's what she meant.

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Speaker 2: No, no, okay, I'm not much of a teacher. It's

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unfortunately thinking of somebody else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now you uh, you did mention earlier. Sometimes you

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think about, you know, playing in a band or getting

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a band together. I mean, how how, how seriously do

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you do you think about that? Is it possible in

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the future or is it something that you kind of

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dismissed when it pops into your head?

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Speaker 2: Or I got a telecaster recently, so oh yeah, telecasts

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and a jazz coort samp because I really like the

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sound of it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think about it.

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Speaker 2: It's just I don't know. I don't know how to

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do it. If if I don't think, I would want

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to search for it like I would if it happens naturally.

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That's how I'd be down for it, because I don't

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want to have like Temple Mountain, then I control the

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music and everything like that. I want it would be

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cool if it was something like Queen where it's like

477
00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:22,799
I write songs, bass player right songs, and drummer writes

478
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:26,559
songs and we just appreciate each other's songwriting together and

479
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,640
we could all sing. That would be awesome.

480
00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:29,039
Speaker 1: Yeah.

481
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

482
00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: Were you in a band before.

483
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: Growing up? I was in a death metal band called

484
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,799
the Story of Anatomy in New York, but we didn't

485
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:42,920
do anything. Yeah, and then I played I was Eric

486
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,519
Phillip in New York City and then because that's my

487
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:49,680
middle name, and that just didn't go very well. And

488
00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:52,359
then this this has been really taking off. It's been crazy,

489
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,200
and it tell us again, how did you become Temple Mountain? Well,

490
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,680
I live in Peterborough, which is right off and I

491
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:01,279
live off a temple mountain. And then, you know, when

492
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:04,720
you're starting to be a licensed therapist, you you learn

493
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,559
a lot about both boundaries and confidentiality, and I think

494
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:10,880
it's important that you know. I want to keep this

495
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:13,759
life separate. So it's it's like I said earlier, it's

496
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:14,599
kind of like my batman.

497
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense. And uh,

498
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,079
by the way, are you married now?

499
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 4: No?

500
00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: Not yet?

501
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: Oh not yet?

502
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:21,559
Speaker 4: No?

503
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 5: There?

504
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,279
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, very good wait very good?

505
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,559
Speaker 1: Is uh Stacy's song? Is that about your It is early? Yeah, excellent? Yeah,

506
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:34,000
I think I think she was in the chat room

507
00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:35,440
last time you were on with us. Yeah.

508
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,079
Speaker 2: She she works for Kobe Sawyer and today is homecoming,

509
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:43,640
so she had to leave work for work today at

510
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,119
like six am. She's doing a lot of stuff. So yeah,

511
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,000
we're not going to be seeing each other until tomorrow.

512
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,160
Probably not in the chat room today, and she is,

513
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,960
then Kobe Sawyer should think about that because she's not

514
00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:54,680
doing her job.

515
00:26:57,759 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: Well do you want to?

516
00:26:58,519 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 4: Uh?

517
00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got time you play another one for sure.

518
00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:04,079
Sure if you are just joining us, A Temple Mountain

519
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:07,279
is here with us, live in studio, and we should

520
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:08,960
tell people too. Last night you were on Granted State

521
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,039
of Mind with Rob as a veto. Yeah, so if

522
00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:13,079
you want to check that out too, that is of

523
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,400
course up on the site.

524
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:15,799
Speaker 2: Shout out to Rob.

525
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Rob doing amazing things. You've You've played at

526
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,599
Pembroke City Limits.

527
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, I played the Nirvana night there.

528
00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:22,039
Speaker 1: Oh did you Yeah?

529
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: It was incredible.

530
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: What song did you do?

531
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 4: Oh?

532
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,559
Speaker 2: Uh, I think I played I'm on a Plane. Oh okay,

533
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,880
yeah that's yeah, Yeah, I did that, and then I

534
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,079
played something in the way I meant. So what happened

535
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,039
was I went in there going to play something in

536
00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:39,519
the way, and then like the day before, he asked

537
00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:41,240
me if I could play I think it was I'm

538
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:41,759
on a plane.

539
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: Oh.

540
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: I was just like yeah, okay, and so I had

541
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,440
to kind of figure it out. Yeah, And I remember

542
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:52,440
I drove there like two hours early. I learned the

543
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:54,640
song like two hours before the show, and oh no kidding, Yeah,

544
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,680
I was so nervous and it kept blanking because I

545
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,000
kept going through the lyrics in my head. And then

546
00:27:58,039 --> 00:28:00,279
when you're on stage, something just kind of happens, yeah,

547
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:01,359
and it all comes back to you.

548
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

549
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: So I got lucky. It was a good shime and

550
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:06,039
I met so many cool people that night. That was

551
00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:08,799
the best part about that show. Yeah, because here you

552
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
just playing bar gigs. You're always by yourself. You don't

553
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,240
get to really see other artists because you're always overlapping.

554
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Rob did him in gret where he got all these

555
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:16,240
people coming together.

556
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, for those who don't know what we're talking about.

557
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,680
So it was a show where everybody, everybody played just one, right,

558
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:27,000
just one Nirvana so two yeah, yeah, do you know

559
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,680
how many performers there were that night?

560
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:32,799
Speaker 2: Total must have been close to seven or eight.

561
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: No kidding.

562
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I met Ben. Do you know Ben Harris? No?

563
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,759
Speaker 1: I heard him on Rob's show a couple of weeks ago.

564
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, such a nice guy. So we met. We were

565
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,079
speaking online already, and then we met from the show,

566
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:47,000
and then he invited me to play at Panucci's Conquered,

567
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:50,279
So like, we need more shows like that. Yeah, it's

568
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:53,880
a great artist like to help artists. So yes, I

569
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,279
really appreciate Rob.

570
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,559
Speaker 7: For doing that.

571
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's awesome. Yeah, check out Pembroke City

572
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,559
Limits if you haven't been there, it's a great place.

573
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:04,160
Rob's doing great things there. And uh, all right, you

574
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,160
were gonna play and I totally derailed you.

575
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: No, you're fine, but.

576
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:10,559
Speaker 1: Devile Mountain is here with us, live in studio, and

577
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:12,039
what are you gonna play for us?

578
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:15,559
Speaker 2: This is a song off Schema. It's called Stages of

579
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:18,279
Attachment and with a name like that, you would never guess,

580
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:22,039
but it's about my cat. Oh yeah, all right, very good.

581
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,720
So let's see.

582
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:44,799
Speaker 5: You try to wake me up, assuming I should rise, So.

583
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:51,519
Speaker 4: Pull my blank kid and stay here for Oh how well,

584
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:58,039
just fell for you, and simple life you you could

585
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,680
break all the rules.

586
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:02,039
Speaker 3: Love you all the time.

587
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,559
Speaker 5: It's just a little thing sheltered by these walls.

588
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 4: Seas like your gaunt eyes, little ginger bards.

589
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 5: It's just a little thing. Your heart is pure and true.

590
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:26,519
Bring love to you all.

591
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 4: You mean everything you do. I remember the day, all

592
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:41,039
the morning drive seven are in the room and you

593
00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:46,400
with the sick guy. How your well just came.

594
00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 5: To me and famild rise.

595
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: And home you fell asleep, founder powder cried.

596
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 5: It just ole thing sheltered by these walks, seems.

597
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:10,759
Speaker 4: Like through gold and eyes a little ginger parts.

598
00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 5: You're just a little thing. Your heart is pure and true.

599
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,119
Bring in love to you all. You mean everything you do.

600
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:31,640
And when I get home, it's hello, not goodbye. And

601
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:38,440
when I leave tomorrow you'll always try and cry. You

602
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:39,240
walk your.

603
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:45,119
Speaker 4: Sister up zom and she will play, but you know

604
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:50,000
when she's fed up with all your silly games.

605
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 5: And the world around.

606
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: You know how it makes me want to cry, but

607
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:00,599
you know I'll never frown as.

608
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:09,079
Speaker 5: You lay by my side. You're just a little thing too,

609
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,519
about these walls. You see his life real gold eyes,

610
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,000
little ginger boss, You're just a little thing.

611
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,599
Speaker 8: Your heart is pure and true, bringing love to all

612
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:33,359
you mean, everything you do, bringing love too all you

613
00:32:33,559 --> 00:32:36,119
mean and everything you too.

614
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: Very cool, Thank you.

615
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:51,799
Speaker 2: What's that called stages of attachment?

616
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: Stages of attachment? Yes, yes, Jenny and I have two

617
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,680
cats and we love them very much. So I find

618
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,759
that song very relatable.

619
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,559
Speaker 2: Oh I appreciate that. Yeah you don't do you know

620
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,480
Dylan Patrick Ward? Does that name sound familiar?

621
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: Sounds familiar.

622
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: It's a local songwriter from Vermont. He has a song

623
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,200
called the Cat's Song, and when I heard it, I

624
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:12,319
was like, oh, you can write about your cats. That

625
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:13,839
was the inspiration we.

626
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: Had recently, well a couple months ago, we had the

627
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:17,079
band Turbo Cats.

628
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: I played with them. Oh okay, yeah I played with

629
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:23,039
that show at Terminus. Oh right, so funny. Oh yeah yeah,

630
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,039
god they cracked like in a great way. Yeah awesome,

631
00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:28,359
And it was just like they were so seriously like

632
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,720
this next song is called licking your leg or something

633
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:33,640
like that. It was brilliant.

634
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:37,559
Speaker 1: They have that song I Senior Lady Cat, which because

635
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,119
we have a female cat that's you know, getting up there,

636
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,119
so we could relate to that.

637
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: It's really trendy. Right now to sing about your cat.

638
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's a great thing. Some people

639
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,200
really don't like cats, and yeah, I don't get that.

640
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,759
I think I think those people have some sort of

641
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:56,519
psychological issue. Yeah, you could not love cats?

642
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,759
Speaker 2: Well, just how can you not love any animal? Right,

643
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,920
besides a wasp because they hurt?

644
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:03,079
Speaker 1: Well, it's not an animal, right, that's an insect?

645
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:04,799
Speaker 2: Is an insect? Non animal?

646
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:06,119
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

647
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:09,519
Speaker 2: But then, but then we were talking about this on

648
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:11,960
a on a Friday night on a cereal of soup.

649
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm a co host on Retrospect Radio with poly c

650
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,599
and Paul was saying that ants actually technically are animals,

651
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,760
not insects. And it freaked me out because when I

652
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,960
was a kid, my friends and I would light ants

653
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:26,119
on fire in the summertime with the lighter and uh,

654
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:28,800
now I feel terrible about I didn't care when I

655
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,679
thought they were insects.

656
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: You know, they're pre their their pre the size of

657
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,480
their brains alone for the for who what the size

658
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:39,760
of them as an animal is alone, like enough to

659
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,639
be like, wow, these are very impressive creatures. Cats are ants,

660
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,960
cortexes are he really?

661
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,199
Speaker 1: Is that true? See? Now I feel really bad. Yeah.

662
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wow, how old are you? Oh I was

663
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,360
probably like ten oh yeah times past. Yeah, yeah, I

664
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,199
mean I would probably done way worse since then.

665
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,159
Speaker 1: Oh definitely. Oh yeah, you have no idea of course

666
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,320
if you are just joining us on this Saturday morning,

667
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:07,639
Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio. Are

668
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,719
you playing a lot? You're playing pretty consistently.

669
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a showed later today, and then this

670
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,039
month I was playing a lot. September I played probably

671
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:18,480
like close to twenty shows. Ohkid, yeah, next month I

672
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:21,599
have probably I think I'm at fifteen right now. I'm

673
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:25,559
trying to get more. So yeah, it's gonna taper down

674
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:29,239
by the new year, but it's slowly growing back. And yeah,

675
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,800
I love I have. Two weeks ago, I played three

676
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:36,239
three hour shows in one day, and wow, that was

677
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,519
an incredible accomplishment on my end that I was really

678
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:41,639
proud of and I always wanted to because Billy Shean

679
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,199
of the ban Talis said that he once did three

680
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,800
shows and one day. I was like, I could do that. Yeah,

681
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,280
So it was it was a nice kind of Yeah

682
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,559
the Farsis three three hour shows. Yeah, I couldn't sing

683
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:55,480
for a little bit after that one that was at

684
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:55,920
a great time.

685
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: How did that even happen? Like, how did you end?

686
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,679
On my own?

687
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: It's my own stupidity. I just keep saying yes, yeah, yeah, yes,

688
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:04,760
and then I'll be like so that. That was a

689
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,360
crazy day too, because I had to go my first

690
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,639
gig was in Where's Beach and then I had to

691
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,599
drive to Manchester to play at Great North and then

692
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:14,920
I had to go to Foundry and play a Foundry

693
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:17,559
So and Great North was such a shout out to

694
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:20,599
Jesse by the way for that gig. Yes, and I'm

695
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:22,800
glad I brought that up because I want to apologize

696
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,760
to Jesse because Jesse asked me to like check if

697
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,639
my songs were gonna be a part of B M

698
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,440
I or something like that, and just didn't have time.

699
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,800
He did it for me. Yeah, it was very nice

700
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,400
of him, but like I had to change my whole

701
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,320
setlist around and it turned out it was a great show,

702
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,360
but it was it was so funny. I was like,

703
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,239
so can I I was gonna play like Dave Matthews,

704
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,199
Like you can't play Dave Matthews. That was such a

705
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,920
great gig though I had. I loved that place. Yeah,

706
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,360
and the beer was amazing.

707
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:52,159
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, Jenny and I stopped in there recently

708
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:55,519
because it was Jesse's birthday. She's a proud mama.

709
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

710
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,679
Speaker 1: So yeah, and you know he's been on the show

711
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,400
a bunch of times too.

712
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:02,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sounding really good, wicked, talented, really good.

713
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:07,079
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But that that's not something usually run into though,

714
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:08,880
right at a venue where they, you know, because of

715
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:11,159
the music rights where that kind of gets something. I mean,

716
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:12,199
if you run into that before.

717
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: I did at not when I was playing music. I

718
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,719
used to be a butcher, and they took the music

719
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,840
there very seriously because they were worried. I get it.

720
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it is.

721
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: It's it's not the venue's fault or anything like that.

722
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: It's right.

723
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,639
Speaker 2: The way the music industry works is you gotta be careful.

724
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

725
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: I kind of like when stuff like that happens, Like

726
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,760
if you have like a two hour set or three

727
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,519
hour set and then all of a sudden you have

728
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:39,800
to remove twenty songs and figure it out. Like it's

729
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:40,320
kind of fun.

730
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,159
Speaker 1: It's a challenge.

731
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:41,559
Speaker 2: I love it.

732
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Good, good attitude to

733
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,320
have about it, certainly. Yeah, Yeah, I've just over the years,

734
00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:53,679
I've heard stories of like BMI and ASCAP, like actually

735
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,079
it's it sounds like you wouldn't think it would really happen,

736
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:02,880
but like sending undercover agents, yeah, into places to see

737
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,440
if they're.

738
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: I remember when piracy was big, and like there was

739
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:08,639
like those stories of kids getting like sued because they

740
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:11,519
downloaded the Titanic, and that actually happened. Yeah, it sued

741
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,920
for lots of money. It's like these are kids, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

742
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,280
it's wild. It's wild.

743
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,079
Speaker 4: Yeah.

744
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,159
Speaker 1: And there used to be uh years ago, there was

745
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,800
a place in Conquerord called the Cafe Eclipse, and they

746
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,920
got into some kind of trouble and they just that's

747
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,639
a great name. Yeah, yeah, it was a cool place.

748
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:30,800
I played there a lot back in the day. But

749
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,800
they had to make a rule just no covers because

750
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,840
they had gotten in trouble and they'd been threatened by

751
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,559
I don't know if it was ASCAP, BMI, or it

752
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:39,679
might have been Sea Sack, because I remember the guy

753
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,360
telling me and I was like, oh, that's what I'm

754
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,000
not familiar with.

755
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: I believe I'm playing a gig in March. It's a

756
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,159
place that I've been wanting to get it's hard to

757
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:48,679
get the gig. It's like a two year out gig.

758
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,639
It's called Stage thirty three. It's in Bellow Falls, Vermont. Yeah,

759
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,599
I'm pretty sure. That's part of the rules is I

760
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:56,760
can't play any covers because they don't have any licensing agreement.

761
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,719
So it's all gonna be originals for like, it's like

762
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,440
a forty minute set of original is fine.

763
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, to do that.

764
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, if anything, it's refreshing.

765
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

766
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,519
Speaker 2: There's not many listening rooms. That's the It's not a

767
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:08,559
fault of New Hampshire, but it's the hardest thing in

768
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,480
New Hampshires. There's not many listening rooms.

769
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, right, No, I agree. When you when you

770
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:17,719
play covers, do you mix in any originals?

771
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? Always Yeah, yeah, you gotta and uh they usually

772
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,159
you know, usually people want to hear it too. And

773
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,920
my covers very like I play John Mayor Dave Matthew Shirr,

774
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,840
but I also play Britney Spears, I play.

775
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,079
Speaker 7: I Do I Do.

776
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: Wow.

777
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: That was almost very u braggadocis I do a cover

778
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:42,239
of Cake by the Ocean that I really like. I

779
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,159
just I do things that I want to hear. Yeah,

780
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:46,440
I want to listen to you know what I mean,

781
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:50,079
and it's yeah, it's just so, then if you incorporate

782
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:52,239
those and I base my set lists on where I

783
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,199
have to place the capo, Oh that makes sense. Yeah, yeah,

784
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:59,119
like if I do all my like second fret capo

785
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:05,119
songs together, so it helps with tuning stability, and yeah,

786
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,920
so I incorporate my originals conclusion.

787
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well i'd imagine too, some of the covers you do,

788
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,800
like that Elliott Smith song, I didn't recognize. I'm sure.

789
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,840
I'm sure if you ever had anyone come up to

790
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,159
you and say, hey, I really like that song and

791
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,440
they have no idea that it's not an original. Does

792
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:20,920
that happen?

793
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,039
Speaker 2: The only covers I would say that I do that

794
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,800
people don't recognize are Elliott Smith and I have so

795
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:32,159
and which saddends me. But I do them just I

796
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,280
do them as like a kind of way of saying

797
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,119
thank you to Elliott.

798
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:35,519
Speaker 6: Yeah.

799
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, usually people like people pick up on things

800
00:40:41,079 --> 00:40:45,679
like it's crazy you know you play you people wonder why,

801
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,679
Like somebody will be like, I'll never play Hate Jude

802
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,079
because it's such a cliche. But you play it at

803
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,880
a bar, you're gonna get a reaction. That's gonna give

804
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,519
you such an endorphin rush. That's It's incredible, the dopamine

805
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:00,599
high you get from playing Hate Youth Love. If I can't,

806
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,719
I recollect it to everyone, play Hey Jude Live, No Kidding? Yeah,

807
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,920
and played the Boxer by Paul by Something. Oh yeah,

808
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:08,400
that's a great one. Yeah yeah.

809
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,559
Speaker 1: Are Do you have a favorite cover? Is there is

810
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:13,199
there one that you especially.

811
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: That like I look forward to?

812
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: I can.

813
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,639
Speaker 2: I play Neon by John Mayer and that's a bit

814
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,679
of a flex and that seems to be gaining me

815
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,559
some attention. So I like playing that one. Yeah yeah, yeah,

816
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:28,000
that's it's been fun. I also like playing Your Body

817
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,679
as a Wonderland.

818
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that song.

819
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah uh. And I also love playing I

820
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:36,880
Can't help falling in Love with You. Yeah, play Elvis

821
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:38,519
a lot. That's a great song. Yeah.

822
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: I would imagine that goes over pretty well. I can

823
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:41,199
I can see how.

824
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,119
Speaker 2: Just watching I've seen like moms bring their little kids

825
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:46,360
on stage up the front to dance.

826
00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:50,119
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah that's very cool, very cool.

827
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,800
Have you ever have you ever played any covers that

828
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,599
you had to ditch because you they weren't going over

829
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:56,159
well or.

830
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Yeah, finly, I tried doing party

831
00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:08,079
rock by LMFAO. That didn't work. I still do it sometimes,

832
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,800
but there's a line in it it's like half half black,

833
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,039
half white Domino and like, once I sung it out loud,

834
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:18,360
was like, oh yeah, I'm asi white male. So there

835
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,639
was that, and then there was also there's a song

836
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,320
called issues like I Got I Got Issues, you got too.

837
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,920
I don't know who actually does a song, but it

838
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:32,159
just didn't translate well to acoustic. But I'm working on

839
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,840
a version, you know, the song I Will Survive. I'm

840
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,760
working on that at the moment. That's like my latest thing.

841
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,840
I'm really excited. I think I want to actually like

842
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,000
put it on the album. I always want to have

843
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:42,840
a song, like a cover song on the album.

844
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,079
Speaker 1: Okay, so I might do that.

845
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, spoiler alert, Yeah, I.

846
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,159
Speaker 1: Know, I think that would that would be pretty cool.

847
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:52,599
Now the singles that you're releasing, are these all being

848
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,119
recorded at the same studio or yeah, yeah.

849
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well I'll go in there and we'll spend

850
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,760
like three hours record like three songs because they're just

851
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:03,440
tract are very simple. It's still I like what I

852
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:05,679
like is it's not it's not low fi, but it's

853
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,760
like just the next step up. Yeah, and I just

854
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,679
want to keep polishing it up, you know, keep polishing

855
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:16,320
the turd if you will, until it's maybe where people

856
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,400
would consider it acceptable or something like that.

857
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'll look forward to hearing the next one

858
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,360
when it's ready. That's for sure, that's for sure. Let's

859
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,880
see you want to play one more? Sure? Sure? Sure?

860
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,400
If you're just joining us, we have Temple Mountain here

861
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,599
with us alive in studio.

862
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: Here's a random question. What are your thoughts on do

863
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,880
you know about New Haven's clam pizza?

864
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: No, but I'm horrified, yeah right, yeah.

865
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: As someone from New York, it's just like, there's no

866
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,920
way that works clam pizza.

867
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,559
Speaker 1: I have a rule because, uh, you know, pizza is

868
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:51,360
my favorite food and uh oh really and and if

869
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,599
somebody asked me, you know, Matt, why you know you

870
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,199
say certain types of pizza are gross and other types

871
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:59,119
are good. Here's here's how. This is what I tell people.

872
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,400
If you want your pizza to be delicious, you should

873
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,519
only choose delicious toppings. If you choose disgusting toppings, your

874
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:08,639
pizza will be disgusting and that's all you have to know.

875
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:11,559
Speaker 2: Now. With that said, you know pizza is hard to find.

876
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:15,280
Come around here there's good pizza and there's Sorry New Hampshire,

877
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:17,559
there's not. If you're from New York, you're not gonna

878
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,639
love the pizza, right. Have you been to Pellis in Peterborough?

879
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,039
Speaker 4: No?

880
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: No, they're good, really, Yeaelli, they're only getting better too.

881
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

882
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: They are very traditional in like New York style slices

883
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:32,440
and they still slices by the singles Monday through Friday,

884
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,000
eleven am to four pm.

885
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: You being from New York, you you, I mean, you

886
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,239
wouldn't say that if it wasn't true.

887
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,119
Speaker 2: So it's now is it New York pizza? No? But

888
00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:44,880
but there's something in the water, so it's the closes

889
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:49,000
probably so far. Yeah, I've heard think that people have

890
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:50,760
told me about Tilton's House of Pizza, and I need

891
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,920
to check out. Apparently I've had good pizza. I kind

892
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,119
of like bad pizza too. I just love pizza. Yeah,

893
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,360
I'm the same way. Yeah, it doesn't have to be

894
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,119
great exactly.

895
00:44:59,239 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: I love you.

896
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,679
Speaker 2: Cumber Cumby's Farm's pizza makes me happy. Sure, I'm gonna

897
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:04,519
get all I hate for that.

898
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:08,599
Speaker 1: But yeah, seven eleven pizza isn't bad if like when

899
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:12,000
it's fresh, but it has to be fresh because once

900
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:15,239
it turns, it turns. Oh yeah, I fell into a

901
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,320
habit of you. I don't need seven eleven pizza anymore,

902
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,280
but I felt of eating it. But it had to

903
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,920
be like like I mean, like within the last five minutes.

904
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: It had to have been put Yeah, Otherwise something happens

905
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,840
to cheese at.

906
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: Minute six it turns into something horrible.

907
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not stupid. I know it's not real.

908
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,320
I know it's yeah, yeah, I know that's not really.

909
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:37,400
That's not real. Right, that's not tomato, right right, making

910
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:37,880
me hungry?

911
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,159
Speaker 1: All right, Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio,

912
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,639
and what are you gonna play for us?

913
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play a John Mayer song if that's okay, Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

914
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,000
I'll play your Body's of Wonderland me happy, all right,

915
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:49,440
very good.

916
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 5: We got the afternoon. You got this room for two.

917
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 4: One thing that's love to do, discovernment, discovering you one

918
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:36,800
mind to every inch of your skin like Parson Lamb,

919
00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:43,840
one pair of cant lips and your buble gun too

920
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:52,360
and If you want love, make it swimming a deep

921
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:59,800
sea of blankets. Take your big plants and break up.

922
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,440
This is bound to be a wow.

923
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 9: Your body is wanting land. Your body is a wonder

924
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:21,480
I'll use my hands. Your body is wanton land. Something

925
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:25,639
about the way the half falls in your face. I

926
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,679
love the shape you take when Crawnto honts belowcans.

927
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:33,679
Speaker 5: You tell me where to go, and the way might lead.

928
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,880
Found it and never let your head hit the bed.

929
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:43,679
Found my hand behind it. One off, Make it swim

930
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:49,559
in the deep sea plants. Take on your big plants

931
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:51,519
and break them.

932
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,199
Speaker 4: This is bound to be a wow.

933
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,119
Speaker 5: Your body is wanting lands.

934
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,079
Speaker 2: Your body is wandering.

935
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 5: All you use my hands.

936
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 10: Your body is wander les. Damn very man, you frustrate.

937
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:27,559
Speaker 5: May I know your mind, own mine, own mind. But

938
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,360
she looked so good it hurts.

939
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 9: Sometimes body is wander lands. Your body is wandering All

940
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,000
you use my hands. Your body is wanting that.

941
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,639
Speaker 1: That's a long fade. But you know what's funny, I

942
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,280
was thinking about this as you were playing it. I

943
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,760
haven't heard you know his version, the original version, in

944
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,199
a long time. But speaking of fades, there's I always

945
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,679
thought it was kind of funny how the song kind

946
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:27,199
of tricks you a little bit in that it sounds

947
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,760
like it's over. There's a point where the song sounds

948
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,760
like it's over, where.

949
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, and it goes to that like.

950
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Speaker 1: You know exactly what I mean, which is not because

951
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I've said this to other people and they don't know

952
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what I'm talking about. Yeah, there's a point in the

953
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song where it's like, if you haven't heard it before,

954
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you're sure the fade out is right there, and then

955
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it doesn't happen.

956
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Speaker 2: He does that. Actually a lot on Squares is a

957
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song called My Stupid Mouth, and there's a part where

958
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it just ends and then he goes one more thing.

959
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was like, clarity, that's a a song

960
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that I really like. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one.

961
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Speaker 2: I don't know my whole schedule, but I'm all over

962
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the place if you want to find out www dot

963
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Temple Maso music dot com. I just updated the website too,

964
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so oh, very good, very good.

965
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Speaker 1: You do all that yourself, the yeah web web stuff, Yeah, yeah, excellent. Yeah, No,

966
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it's a nice website.

967
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

968
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of a website nerd. I look at websites

969
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and judge them.

970
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Speaker 2: That's I don't know what I'm doing. So that means

971
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a lot to me.

972
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Speaker 1: Well, because a lot of a lot of our guests,

973
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I look at their websites and it's like, oh, they're

974
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so like you know, I'll have a band on It's like, oh,

975
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there's such a great band and their website it's horrible.

976
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Speaker 2: You know, invest put if you make money at gigs,

977
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put money back into things. You know. I paid for

978
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a graphic designer. Shout to Emily Perry for designing my

979
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logo and ever since that, that was like a game changer,

980
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Like I don't get so many gigs from that logo.

981
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Speaker 1: Don kidding? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great that you say

982
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that though, because that demonstrates that sometimes, you know, even

983
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just tweaking one thing oh yeah, that most people might

984
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not think would make a difference sometimes just just everything. Yeah.

985
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And learning how to talk to people is so important, yes,

986
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you know, don't. Yeah, I have a real pet peeve

987
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when I hear like, I know, we I go, but

988
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when I hear an artist like almost like say something

989
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condescending to like a person.

990
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like just be nice, right right, just do it? Yeah.

991
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not hard. It's not hard, it doesn't cost anything. No,

992
00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:27,280
it's not easy either sometimes, but yeah, make it easy,

993
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:27,840
find a way.

994
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, and that's how you build relationships exactly. Yeah. Absolutely.

995
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And then uh and Stacey the new single, which we'll

996
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we'll play again to close out to a segment two

997
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,039
you because this is out today on all the streaming

998
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:42,199
platforms and there's a video coming soon and like a.

999
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Speaker 2: Week, okay, yeah it might yeah, I'll probably release it

1000
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in a week.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, excellent, excellent, Well, thank you my friend.

1002
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,639
This is always wonderful to see you. I think this

1003
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is your Is this your third time on the show.

1004
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for always having me you guys, that's

1005
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:55,159
really sweet.

1006
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,519
Speaker 1: Absolutely no, we we love to have you on. And

1007
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I'll remind people too. Eric was also on Rob's show

1008
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,320
Grantite State of Mind, so you can find that in

1009
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the archive as well. And we will close out the

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segment once again with the brand new single out today.

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It is called Stacey by Temple Mountain. Thanks again,