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Speaker 2: How's it going?

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Speaker 1: Fantastic? Is this Anna?

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Speaker 2: This is Anna?

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Speaker 1: Anna. I want to step inside your creative imagination because

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you've got a way with words, and I want to

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know how you were able to find the confidence and

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the courage to design it like this.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to

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talk about it.

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Speaker 1: What seriously I mean as writers, because you know how

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it is. You and I both had the courage to

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set our stuff free. But what about those that are

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currently sitting inside their homes. They're stuffing it inside boxes,

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putting it underneath their bed or up in the attic.

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But yet, when you've got a book like this one

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Weathersfield Road, Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's it's a really scary thing to

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kind of put yourself out there like that. My book

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Weathersfield Road is semi autobiographical, and so it is a

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lot about my own journey getting sober and healing from

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mental illness, and so the idea of putting that out

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in the world is really really terrifying. I don't think

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it's supposed to not be scary. I think it's about

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doing it anyway.

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Speaker 1: So when you talk about going sober, where did you

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learn that step to pick up a writing instrument and

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even start writing? Because I mean, I mean, you've got

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Julia Cameron's The Artist Way, which has always served as

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a great tool for many people.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, you know, I actually started writing this book

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as a therapeutic exercise, kind of like narrative therapy, like

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rewriting some of the stuff that I wanted to be different,

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or just expressing some of the thoughts and feelings that

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felt too dark to let out at the time that

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they were happening. And then it just kind of became

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this therapeutic narrative that I hoped would be like a

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showing others how I did it myself so that maybe

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they could do it in their own lives.

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Speaker 1: Stepping into the shoes of Amelia. I mean, you said

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that it's based on your true life. Did you have

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to change the name to protect the innocent?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, every name was changed except for the horse and

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the book. I could not change her name because her

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name was Hope and it was too perfect.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, then as that writing instrument put those

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words on the page, what was that like for you

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to release it? Because you know, once again back to

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Julia Cameron, she says, you got to clean out your closet,

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and that's pretty much what you might be doing here,

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is that you're cleaning out the closet so that we

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can move on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think Brene Brown has a term

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that I really love. She calls it a vulnerability hangover,

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and I absolutely felt that upon releasing this book, it

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felt like taking the most tender part of myself and

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kind of turning it inside out for the world and

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then just being like, first, I.

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Speaker 2: Hope you read it. But even if you read it

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and I hope you like it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's more than just to read. I

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really do think it's one of those situations where it's

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going to become the conversation piece and then somebody's going

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to be strolling through their own personal journey. They're going

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to go you know Anna was onto something. Maybe I

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need to go take a step into that direction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that would be the dream. You know,

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I've had a lot of women either my age or

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felt like that until I read Amelia's Inner Dialogue, and

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that let me know I was doing my job.

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how did it come into being?

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notebook or right on my laptop, just like really dark

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Speaker 1: So no, now here's the thing though, when when you

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speak of Amelia and you're putting these thoughts into a book,

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transfer that into a storyline? Because are you using what

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but you don't want to weigh things down, so therefore

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you use creative writing in order to get the point

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across but not so sharp.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you know there's so much in the book

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the beauty of making it fiction is that I can

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you know, bend the bend the facts to get to

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the more emotional truth of the matter.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Anna binder Reardon

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coming up next the name of a book, Weathersfield Road.

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We are back with author Anna binder Rudin. Are we

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crazy people to think that what we put on paper

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or inside a computer really does have the power to

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help somebody out? Because I mean, I've been a daily

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writer since July of nineteen ninety four. The majority of

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what I do comes from my journals and then here

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you are, and it's the same.

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Speaker 4: Thing, absolutely absolutely, And you know, I think it's like

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what I tell myself is that, you know, maybe it

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could change the world, but if it could change the

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world for one person, it will have been worth it.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, I read once thatt One in

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four people will be profoundly affected by addiction within their lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the thing about it. What is addiction

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to so many people? It could be your smartphone, it

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could be something as simple as a you know, a

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propel every day. Oh my god, I got to have

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my propel or my ready. I mean, it's crazy what

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addiction has become.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are a very addicted society. And I think

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it's because you know, we have a lot of cane.

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and you know, we all have ways that we cope

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Speaker 1: So did you go into the book knowing that? Okay,

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so I experienced this, But there's some taboo areas I'm

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not going to touch because I will do that. For instance,

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one of the places that I will never go back

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in and write about, even though it is featured in

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my second book are the events that took place just

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shortly before September eleventh and everything after. I had no

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idea what might or even remember what I went through

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after nine to eleven, and I one day I would

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we just compare notes here and then let's create a story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And you know there was there were

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definitely things that felt uncomfortable to touch. But I will

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and the gaps with my own, with my own kind

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of interpretation of what might have happened. And it was

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really healing because there's stuff that you know, the brain

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Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that Amelia has, she's got

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some vesties here that a lot of people can relate

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with and or some people will admit to a bottle

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and a bong. Now, one thing that I know is

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going to start showing up in stories. Somewhere along the

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we think of alcohol, we think of the bomb, but

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THHC infused drinks are coming in. I one day there's

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we're always looking for that. Next up, so is writing

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your addiction, because it's my addiction. I can't put the

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darn stuff away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. I look become an addiction

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Speaker 3: I'm just constantly thinking of things and just pulling out

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my phone, excuse me, and just like jotting down an

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Speaker 2: You know, it does become an addiction.

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Speaker 3: But but you know, I think the opposite of addiction

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is connection, and writing is connection. It's it's sharing ourselves

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with somebody and hoping they see themselves in it as well.

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you know she she's a drinker, but she smokes.

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Speaker 2: A lot of weed. And I smoked a lot of

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weed and I was one hundred percent addicted to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's so easy, even as writers, to come

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we're going to do this instead. No, I totally get it,

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because I mean, we all and it's not just one addiction.

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you're talking about crash, landings, domestic violence, drug induce shame.

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here and then we get to go live it through Mellia.

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it and we see ourselves. Therefore we can just That's

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what I like about it is that we can relate

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why I'm right in the very beginning when I said

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much.

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still just kind of euphoric feelings.

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much. And you know, it's been

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Speaker 1: Well, you've got something in this book that needs to

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be on a poster or it needs to be on

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a T shirt when it comes to marketing the book

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Weathersfield Road and that and that is is the crossfaded

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chaos Queen of Nobody's Dreams. I love that. That sounds

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like a Freddie Mercury song man.

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Speaker 2: It does sound like a Freddy Mercury song. That's the

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Speaker 1: I mean, where does something like that come from? And

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are you yourself shocked when something like that happens?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's we Me and my editor were

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sitting so yeah, I'm an independent author, and me and

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my editor sat down to write, like the blurb on

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the back of the book, and that phrase came to mind,

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Speaker 2: Like, is that too kitchy? But I love it now,

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Speaker 1: What did you learn from this? Because once again, I

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seven books from all of the writing. I can't wait

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until you hit your seventh book so I can see

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what your eyes look like and what your voice is

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doing as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's.

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Speaker 3: It. It's a I think that the second book is

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Speaker 3: And you know, I just I have to like trust

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my eye to point me towards what story needs to

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Speaker 1: Did they put you in the right category at Barnes

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and Noble and on Amazon because they totally screwed up

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what this book is about. Come on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was weird, like I would call it women's fiction,

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recovery fiction, and Amazon at one point had it under

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like parent life fiction.

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Speaker 2: Or like children and parents. I was like, children should

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not read this book.

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Speaker 1: See, and I think it should be under the hallmark

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because is it not love? I mean, seriously, when you

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dig deeper into the storyline, is this not a love story?

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Speaker 3: It is a love story, and you know it's a

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love story. Amelia refers to her love affair with the

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wind at one point in the book because she's just

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becoming aware of her five senses and being a human.

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Speaker 5: Being, and it's a love story between her and her horse,

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who actually ends up getting her sober because she rides

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under the influence and crashes and then that's like her

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big realization and she goes on to get sober.

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Speaker 2: And it's about, you know, going through those toxic relationships

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to learn how to be a better person and then

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finding the relationship that's actually healthy. So it absolutely, absolutely

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is a love story.

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Speaker 1: Wow, where can people go to find out more about

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you and start following you?

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Speaker 2: Anna?

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Speaker 1: Because I love your voice and I can't wait to

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continue growing with you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find me at Anna A n n

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A Dashwrights dot com. You can also follow me on

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Instagram at millennial author Anna.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you gotta explain that one to me here you

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said you said dash white right, because I've got Anna

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Binder Rearden weird in Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like the same domain. So if you

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go to Anna Reardon a n n A r e

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A R d o n dot com, it'll take you

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to the same place.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Please come back to this show anytime in the future.

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Speaker 3: Anna.

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Speaker 1: The door is always going to be open for you.

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And during this process, if you ever find yourself in

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a position of becoming the teacher, which I have a

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feeling you're going to, then just always know this door

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is always going to be open for you as well,

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because there are a lot of creative people that need

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guidance from people like yourself.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. That's the end of the game.

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It's finding really good mentors. So it's really nice to

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meet you.

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Speaker 1: Will you'd be brilliant today. Okay, you do.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much,