Speaker 1: You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the
Speaker 1: Max is episode four hundred and thirty eight of the show.
Speaker 1: And with me, I am your host, Sean Government, with
Speaker 1: me as usual as mister Mark Morrison. Howdy and well,
Speaker 1: we do have some things to talk about today. I
Speaker 1: have beaten South at midnight, so I'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: Mark is continuing with Assassin's Creed Shadows. We've got some
Speaker 1: discussion on Marathon and it's presumed price and talk about
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that they showed in the game
Speaker 1: or about the game. And then also Nintendo's switch to
Speaker 1: stuff continues to come out about you know, pricing with games,
Speaker 1: what's going to be in certain games, and switch to
Speaker 1: editions or the switch to editions actually on the cart
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Xbox a summer showcase state has
Speaker 1: been revealed. We'll talk about maybe some games that they're
Speaker 1: going to show on that thing and a few more things.
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Speaker 1: Start out with I guess Mark, how goes your Assassis
Speaker 1: Crea Shadows Journey?
Speaker 2: I finally hit chapter chapter three?
Speaker 1: Finally hit chapter three. So how many chapters are.
Speaker 3: In the Probably forty eight or something? No, no, what
Speaker 3: that's three or four? I mean probably four, cause I
Speaker 3: assuming we hooked four be like, you know, the epilogue
Speaker 3: or you know, we're just jumping back into the world.
Speaker 2: I am still continuing to kill guys from there.
Speaker 1: Fourteenth chapters Assassin Cree Really, yes, that's that's incredibly depressing
Speaker 1: to me. Eighty seven main quests.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. And we had this game for
Speaker 2: two months.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I'm not kidding, Like I killed this guy
Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, you killed all the the middle
Speaker 3: ring guys. This is the end of chapter two. No cool,
Speaker 3: And then it's like, oh god, there's twelve more.
Speaker 1: So does that mean that the side quests have been
Speaker 1: enticing you to keep going on that?
Speaker 3: I mean side questions a kind of content, and it's
Speaker 3: kind of repeated. You know, go clear up this camp
Speaker 3: or this castle, or go find these amazine pages that
Speaker 3: don't actually matter at all, or stuff like that. But
Speaker 3: you know, it's really the game design. The game world
Speaker 3: is really well designed, because ever like two to three
Speaker 3: dard meters or something else to you to go do.
Speaker 3: So you just got on like this, like kick or this,
Speaker 3: you know, just keep heading northwest, I guess until these
Speaker 3: question marks run out and I go do something else. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm continuing to kill guys in that game, and
Speaker 3: it's like I killed this guy and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: here's a part of this other hidden you know, faction.
Speaker 2: Or you know, I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Like the quest system or you know, like the target
Speaker 3: system is like I have like, you know, twenty three
Speaker 3: of these circles.
Speaker 2: In my on my map or you know, on my
Speaker 2: in my menu.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what half of these are because
Speaker 3: it's just like, oh, you just kill this guy and
Speaker 3: he's part of some secret organization.
Speaker 2: They didn't even know what it is.
Speaker 3: I'm all right, sure, yeah, I'm actually taking the screenshots
Speaker 3: because it doesn't even fill one screen, it has to
Speaker 3: fill two different screens. Yeah, So yeah, I have told it.
Speaker 3: I still got an embargered game I can't talk about
Speaker 3: until next week hopefully. All right, And I got a
Speaker 3: I thought, well I didn't. I traded it in for
Speaker 3: it I got. I got a boxed Super game Boy.
Speaker 1: Oh nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've already had a Super game Boy a loose one,
Speaker 3: but this is like the Box ten one. So that's cool.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's that's always cool to get. Any Are you
Speaker 1: getting the Lunar Collection remaster?
Speaker 2: I'm hoping to. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I probably could get it quite when I when it
Speaker 3: comes out, but I I like that game where I
Speaker 3: close games, so I hope I hope you get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope. I'm gonna probably since I don't have
Speaker 1: to buy uh it was it clear obscure because that's
Speaker 1: on game Pass, I probably will buy Lunar. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: you know, support them remad during two RPG classics like
Speaker 1: that kind of similar to what I did was Sweaking
Speaker 1: in one and two. Even though I did have an
Speaker 1: intention of playing those on my vacation, it just didn't happen.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. I mean, I do have that week
Speaker 1: where before Claire of Scare comes out, so I might
Speaker 1: actually delve into some Lunar and talk about it next
Speaker 1: week for sure, so that'll be what I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to there. But as far as this, I mean, anything
Speaker 1: else for this.
Speaker 2: Week, aheah, not really.
Speaker 3: I played more Split Fixtion with the ends and you know,
Speaker 3: still good. I think we're kind of nearing the end,
Speaker 3: but probably got like one or two more game sessions
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 1: That's that's good at least still with that there. Yep,
Speaker 1: all right, well I did finish out South of Midnight,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's uh. It has a fantastic story. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of sad again that it gets bogged down
Speaker 1: by the combat, which is extremely repetitive and one note
Speaker 1: they fill these arenas with monsters. It can cause you
Speaker 1: to die. It's not like it doesn't get like it's
Speaker 1: not challenging, I would say, just like there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on, so you kind of have to keep track
Speaker 1: of all these pints that are in the arena that
Speaker 1: you're in. And then some of these arenas are really small,
Speaker 1: but they all kind of look similar until you get
Speaker 1: to the last three chapters of the game are fantastic
Speaker 1: because you're sent to this different world that is away
Speaker 1: from the rest of the game, because it's like in
Speaker 1: this stream world sort of in New York City. No No,
Speaker 1: but it's like you're supposed to be like in The
Speaker 1: Worm of the Dead or whatever, and it's like this
Speaker 1: kind of like chatteristic London almost with like a lot
Speaker 1: of like you're going in and like a clock tower
Speaker 1: and going up the clock tower, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of platforming in this section, and you just have to
Speaker 1: keep going up and up, and then there's sections where
Speaker 1: like there's just nothing there and you're having a wall
Speaker 1: run and do all this and like, man, that was
Speaker 1: really cool and I love that part to get to there,
Speaker 1: And then of course the story ramps up as well,
Speaker 1: do a great job of kind of like wrapping it
Speaker 1: up or getting you to the like where they ramp up,
Speaker 1: and then unfortunately the story just abruptly ends. It's like
Speaker 1: there's no true like Okay, yeah, we kind of know
Speaker 1: they're fine, right, Like the tribulations that they went through
Speaker 1: are over quote unquote right, but like there's no connective
Speaker 1: tissue with the characters that you meet in the game,
Speaker 1: and there's like, you know, I'm expecting, like for the
Speaker 1: lack of a better thing that I can think of,
Speaker 1: right now. Like you know, those moments in Fast and
Speaker 1: the Furious at the end of the movie is where
Speaker 1: like they all kind of sit down at the table
Speaker 1: or they all have something together, you know, like you
Speaker 1: don't get here the diesel. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: A giant frog actually, so.
Speaker 1: Maybe that is true then that you know, it's also
Speaker 1: kind of weird that the uh, that character that they
Speaker 1: showed in the initial trailer only has a really small
Speaker 1: part in this Yeah, so that was was kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: What his job is it is also interesting, but it's
Speaker 1: just like, wow, they they showed him off to only
Speaker 1: have him be in like five minutes of the game, Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh as a consequence of they cut content or it
Speaker 2: just really.
Speaker 1: Feels like, I want to know, I hope that if
Speaker 1: you're gonna do a thirty minute documentary on this game,
Speaker 1: please tell me that you're gonna eventually do some kind
Speaker 1: of thing where you explain somebody is allowed to explain
Speaker 1: what happened here, because the way the game ends just
Speaker 1: feels like so but he said, Okay, whatever y'all are doing,
Speaker 1: y'all got to get to a stocking point. Wrap it up.
Speaker 1: This game has to come out April eighth, there is
Speaker 1: no more letting this game simmer and come out in
Speaker 1: July or whatever it was. This game is coming out
Speaker 1: April eighth, whatever y'all get to. That's it, you know.
Speaker 1: And it does feel like there are things in the
Speaker 1: combat that could have been more fleshed out. There are
Speaker 1: things that the skill tree feels like you're not gonna get.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a way for you to, I
Speaker 1: mean unless you just explore. There's maybe I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of the little readable things I didn't get.
Speaker 1: There's at least fifty of those that I didn't find.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many more flufs are around that
Speaker 1: I didn't find, because I scored quite a bit. It
Speaker 1: also makes it really easy because it has that thing
Speaker 1: where you follow the path and if you go the
Speaker 1: opposite way, you're most likely going to find the little
Speaker 1: fluf to get the your currency for the skull tree.
Speaker 1: I didn't match it out completely, but I got to
Speaker 1: the end of it, and then basically all that was
Speaker 1: left was some upgrades for the individual powers that you
Speaker 1: know you don't really need, because again, the game is not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of that, Shadows gives you so many skill
Speaker 3: points that it becomes almost like a farce.
Speaker 1: Oh, you definitely go through the skill tree fast.
Speaker 2: I mean I haven't gone through at all because of it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like oh, individual weapons or weapon types
Speaker 3: of skill tree. So it's like I don't care about
Speaker 3: like the big gun that yaske can have, but like
Speaker 3: when you when you're going through the castle, you gotta
Speaker 3: kill you samurais. When you kill one of those, you
Speaker 3: get a skill point, and then you get skill points
Speaker 3: for doing some quests as well and other stuff. So
Speaker 3: like I play as not way most of the time,
Speaker 3: but when I switched to him, it's like, oh, now
Speaker 3: I have ninety four skill points to distribute, great two
Speaker 3: vedicantors automate this or you know what. Going back to
Speaker 3: what you said, do you think that like that's kind
Speaker 3: of been a problem of Microsoft games. I wouldn't say lately,
Speaker 3: but as a general rule, like them not finishing well
Speaker 3: or just kind of finishing abruptly or like seemingly like
Speaker 3: not ending correctly, like uh, recor remember that thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or I mean that that's a while ago.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, but still, I mean it's emblematic or
Speaker 3: well then as a mounts it kind of like ended funky.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean the thing is they do I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's like a money problem, but I
Speaker 3: think it's really it really is a good time, Like
Speaker 3: they don't like certain studios have don'e on that man
Speaker 3: as your time correctly or.
Speaker 1: Like I think it's it's it feels like it's uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, because remember that until Redfall, they had
Speaker 1: that like really hands off approach, right, So this is
Speaker 1: they're part of that twenty eighteen class that also includes
Speaker 1: Obsidian and whatever, and so like this is one of
Speaker 1: those games that they were just letting cook until I
Speaker 1: guess now they decided that they needed to like get
Speaker 1: involved more and kind of be like, okay, where you're
Speaker 1: all at, where's this game coming out? Kind of thing?
Speaker 1: We need to start like having a rollout for this year.
Speaker 1: And they probably felt like, Okay, this game is is gone,
Speaker 1: you know, going on long enough that like that that's
Speaker 1: enough that you don't need anymore, Like it doesn't need
Speaker 1: to go much further. It just sucks that. It feels like,
Speaker 1: why didn't you guys let them have an ending?
Speaker 2: Yeah you later?
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe they they were hoping it
Speaker 1: would do well enough on game Pass or in purchases
Speaker 1: that they could sell you a DLC later. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's gonna happen with this game,
Speaker 1: because sadly when I beat it. Now, to be fair,
Speaker 1: the game has only officially been out for less than
Speaker 1: a week. I got the early access version because it
Speaker 1: was nine bucks and I needed to also talk about
Speaker 1: it on the the other podcast that I guessed it
Speaker 1: on last week, so we'll talk about in a second.
Speaker 1: But it just it just feels like there's part of
Speaker 1: it that was just I just want to know what
Speaker 1: the story is with what is this your intended ending,
Speaker 1: because it feels like it's not and that kind of sucks.
Speaker 1: And then also it's just like, was that combat always
Speaker 1: supposed to be Like like the comment's fine, right, but
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, it's getting compared a lot to Keena
Speaker 1: Bridge of Spirits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Keener Bridge of.
Speaker 1: Spirits had really good combat, and that game gets hard
Speaker 1: at certain points, right, Like there's an answer to each
Speaker 1: one of those enemies in that game. There's not any
Speaker 1: of that here. You're doing the exact same thing in
Speaker 1: combat every single time in this game, and it's fine.
Speaker 1: You can even turn it off if you want and
Speaker 1: you want to this experience the story, and maybe that's
Speaker 1: what Compulsion is going for, is they were like, well,
Speaker 1: if this gets annoying people, they can just turn it off.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, that's a big piece of the
Speaker 1: gameplay that you're telling people, Yeah, you can just turn
Speaker 1: that off.
Speaker 3: I mean at that point, did you just sell the
Speaker 3: game or saw like a physical version with like a
Speaker 3: YouTube look and so I can like you watch it,
Speaker 3: you know, or you know, just sell the Blu Ray.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: That is the kind of like interesting that they did that.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of like, okay, you know, weird
Speaker 1: decision there. But I think the platforming is fine enough.
Speaker 1: I know there's people that like apparently also hate the
Speaker 1: platforming as well, but I think that that gets more
Speaker 1: of a bad rap because it's fine for what it is.
Speaker 1: It's just it's meant to be all that seems to
Speaker 1: be meant to be a vehicle to get you to
Speaker 1: experience the story, which is really well written and really
Speaker 1: well done. And I got to get them credit for that, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, Polson delivered on the story this time. I
Speaker 1: think that they didn't deliver with contrast, or we have
Speaker 1: a few I feel like and but again, it's also
Speaker 1: emblematic of their other games that I talked about last
Speaker 1: week of they want to tell you something about the game,
Speaker 1: and then they don't. The gameplay is not fleshed out
Speaker 1: that much at all. This is definitely the best game,
Speaker 1: hopefully from here. Whether it's a South of Midnight too,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 1: that unless Microsoft just green lights it anyway, but this
Speaker 1: this is definitely not gonna The only thing I could
Speaker 1: see them getting a two is if this game was
Speaker 1: definitely made to get awards. Very much like hel Blade two,
Speaker 1: this thing is probably gonna get musical, you know, a
Speaker 1: soundtrack nomination, our Style nomination, maybe a narrative nomination, or
Speaker 1: a Games for Impact nomination. If it wins things, maybe
Speaker 1: that pushes Microsoft. Considering we're talking about game pass here,
Speaker 1: this is a you know, a game pass game. It's
Speaker 1: it's very well, you know, as far as a game
Speaker 1: pass get a game pass game, this is perfect for that.
Speaker 1: I would not tell you to go buy this even
Speaker 1: though it's forty dollars. This is perfect for get a
Speaker 1: subscribe for a month on game pass. Maybe wait till
Speaker 1: you know. If you're interested in Claar Obscure as well,
Speaker 1: which comes out the twenty fourth, get both, you know,
Speaker 1: subscribing the twenty fourth, you can play both games for
Speaker 1: a month and you'll be good. You know, Hey, what's up? Cute?
Speaker 1: How you doing?
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Speaker 1: check those out when I get done recording here. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it for me playing this week. Now I'm done
Speaker 1: without the Midnight and I'm waiting around. Like I said,
Speaker 1: probably play Lunar. Get back that it's unblady Chronicles talk
Speaker 1: about that next week. So yeah, but all right, I
Speaker 1: guess since we're talking about games, I know you didn't
Speaker 1: really watch any of this. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: did since I talked to you, since it wasn't a
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like these videos that they had
Speaker 1: were super long. Wo No, but Bunchie did reveal marathon
Speaker 1: that they said they would do on Saturday. Honestly, the
Speaker 1: way they revealed this thing, and the way they've cut
Speaker 1: up videos for it, it's like, I don't understand why
Speaker 1: they didn't just make this a thirty minute showcase with
Speaker 1: somebody talking through it or something, because it's like they
Speaker 1: did a trailer, they did an eight minute story thing
Speaker 1: that where they try to be like really kind of
Speaker 1: cryptic about what they're doing. They try to it does
Speaker 1: seem really cool, like Bunchie has its way of telling
Speaker 1: stories that make the premise seem very cool, like very interesting.
Speaker 1: And then and the problem is that the way they
Speaker 1: end up telling the story is not always great when
Speaker 1: you get to the actual game. I think that that's
Speaker 1: gonna be another thing here as well. It's like this
Speaker 1: this city that's like magically vanished and you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be trying to find out what's going on with them,
Speaker 1: but the like the situation is that the government doesn't
Speaker 1: want them to find out, so you're kind of trying
Speaker 1: to find out at the same time. And then you know,
Speaker 1: it's it was interesting the way they dropped it, at
Speaker 1: least for that. The game is a PvP extraction shooter.
Speaker 1: If you didn't know that already. Straight up, they're trying
Speaker 1: to make this. Yeah, they're definitely trying to make this,
Speaker 1: you know, their version of Escape from Tarkov, like try
Speaker 1: to see if they can have that like kind of
Speaker 1: futuristic looking art style, which I do think that that
Speaker 1: also is a little bit lack gravitated me a bit
Speaker 1: towards at least wanting to watch some of it. I
Speaker 1: like that the ar style that it uses. The problem
Speaker 1: is that it's a PvP distractor shooter. It does have
Speaker 1: PV in it. They have AI bots that are also
Speaker 1: they're bothering you along with the the different like groups
Speaker 1: of actual control players that are playing it. It's meant
Speaker 1: to be played three v three, but you can play
Speaker 1: by yourself, so if you want to play solo, you can.
Speaker 1: There aren't any like creatible characters, so they're all like
Speaker 1: sort of like character classes that you can choose. There
Speaker 1: is some customizable elements with it. The story is going
Speaker 1: to be kind of like Lord drops, so don't expect
Speaker 1: outside I think of the initial whatever cut scene or
Speaker 1: blah blah blah they have. Don't expect anything like crazy.
Speaker 2: But that you don't respect anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my issue with it is that from
Speaker 1: all the other like you know, skill up went and
Speaker 1: played it. GameSpot had tw more who say go play
Speaker 1: it ig and had somebody kind of funny had Paris
Speaker 1: and a few other people playing it that we're invited
Speaker 1: by Bungie to go. And then apparently Paris and some
Speaker 1: other people like doctor Luco have been like in the
Speaker 1: creator program for this for like two or three years
Speaker 1: now or even further on, because obviously this was originally
Speaker 1: a nineties Mac trio of games that they then decided
Speaker 1: to like redo to turn into an extraction shooter. So
Speaker 1: like they've been kind of taking tips with that, and
Speaker 1: everybody's been saying this feels like destiny won Like there's
Speaker 1: not a hook to this. They're kind of just hoping
Speaker 1: that we make good shooter and people will come and
Speaker 1: play because we're Bungie. And the problem is, and I
Speaker 1: guess this is where we can actually have a discussion
Speaker 1: on this, is that they're not backing down from the
Speaker 1: rumor that it has existed for at least a year
Speaker 1: now that this is going to be a forty dollars game.
Speaker 1: This is not going to be free to play, and
Speaker 1: there was some pointing that this was gonna be a
Speaker 1: full price game, and then they came out and be like, no,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a premium game, so it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be seventy, but forty ain't that cheap either, when
Speaker 1: you're talking about a game that who knows how much
Speaker 1: shelf life it's gonna happen, right none.
Speaker 3: I I'm gonna be the festinist, but I think this
Speaker 3: thing is gonna crash out. Maybe not as quickly as Concord,
Speaker 3: but two months.
Speaker 1: I will give it more. I'll give it at least.
Speaker 1: They're gonna last at least a year before they figure
Speaker 1: out we've really got to put this under the hood.
Speaker 3: And yeah, you'll give it a year before it goes
Speaker 3: free to play because the player counts likes eight hundred
Speaker 3: people or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just because it's Bungee. They have fans that are
Speaker 1: innately gonna buy this thing. That will they want to
Speaker 1: play the next thing Bungee is gonna make. That's not destiny.
Speaker 1: They can start from the beginning, you know.
Speaker 3: And but it's not like it's not what Cann's of
Speaker 3: Bungee you want like they I mean, if you asked
Speaker 3: of Bungee, like, hey, what do you want, I can
Speaker 3: say an extraction shooter with light story content.
Speaker 2: Oh definitely not.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people complaining that they just wish
Speaker 1: they would make a single player a game. Again, that's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And tell you that right the way
Speaker 1: that that company's built, they're built to be a live
Speaker 1: service and that's why Sony bought them. So unfortunately, whether
Speaker 1: you want to or not, they have this has to hit.
Speaker 1: This has to be a big deal. If not, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Man, uh, Bungee will still be around, but
Speaker 1: they will definitely have a lot less weight as far
Speaker 1: as being a Sony studio, Like they will become a
Speaker 1: Sony studio for sure.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but that's not I mean, it's the same
Speaker 2: thing I've always said, like fans tell you what you want.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it doesn't matter that Sony bought them to
Speaker 3: be you know, Destiny to content maker forever like even
Speaker 3: Destiny two fans there, it's not like a growing segment.
Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, they also brought them to be
Speaker 1: the the people that we're gonna tell the other studios
Speaker 1: how to make their life amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, look how well that worked out?
Speaker 1: I mean obviously it didn't. It didn't work out.
Speaker 3: I think I think the problem is is like they
Speaker 3: they want somebody wants to you know, I have this
Speaker 3: mentality that like, oh, we we have these people making
Speaker 3: live service game be able to have all the right
Speaker 3: ingredients so they can they can knock out twelve games
Speaker 3: no problem. And they say, yo, the audience is fickle,
Speaker 3: Like I don't think anyone it's expected hell divers to
Speaker 3: to do that. Well, but like you know, audiences change
Speaker 3: and audiences want what they want. It's not like you
Speaker 3: can't like force feed us or force feed people like, hey,
Speaker 3: you got a new live service game. It's based on
Speaker 3: an old ip that barely anyone knows or cares about anymore,
Speaker 3: especially the people who played it back then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 3: And it's it's like, oh, it's only in you know
Speaker 3: name only it doesn't any of the old bullshit that
Speaker 3: Marathon used to have. So go eat it up, Go
Speaker 3: spend forty bucks on an untested franchise.
Speaker 1: That they're hoping it's a franchise, right.
Speaker 3: Well, an untested ip that like you know good, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just insanity. Like they they want live service money,
Speaker 3: but it's like, well none of those hit correctly, are
Speaker 3: very few of them, And the amount of money you're
Speaker 3: wasting on this crap you could have making single player
Speaker 3: games that would have you would have actually got a
Speaker 3: good returning investment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what I wonder if Sony being
Speaker 1: a single player mostly. I mean, they've for the most
Speaker 1: part everything that they've done multiplayer wise, outside of Hell
Speaker 1: Divers too, they've already canceled everything we've seen or heard from.
Speaker 1: They already delayed fair Games yea, which is the other
Speaker 1: one that's kind of like, I don't know what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with that. Does that studio wind up getting act
Speaker 1: if that doesn't do right? And it's like, if this fails,
Speaker 1: does that mean that Sony is is done because this
Speaker 1: is your studio that you bought to be the showcase
Speaker 1: for this kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, hopefully.
Speaker 3: I don't have any ill will against the Gham necessarily,
Speaker 3: but if this thing comes out bombed, hopefully that is
Speaker 3: the last nail in the coffin for this type of
Speaker 3: live service crap. And it's not like I would like.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a fan of it. But if
Speaker 3: Sony wants to make a new so Calm or a
Speaker 3: new Kills one or something, sure go for it, but
Speaker 3: don't make it some live service nightmare that you know
Speaker 3: it has seasons and has all this like you battle
Speaker 3: pass and yeah, stuff like that. Like it's a no,
Speaker 3: this makes makes something good period.
Speaker 1: Do you think it'd be a better have better reception
Speaker 1: if it did have Let's let's say they decided to
Speaker 1: do you know, Halo, but it's Marathon, right, They has
Speaker 1: a single player component. You can play the multiplayer if
Speaker 1: you want, right.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I'd be more interested for damn sure
Speaker 3: if this if they were like, hey, I mean they
Speaker 3: would never say this, but if they were like, hey,
Speaker 3: the original the original guys making Halo are making this thing.
Speaker 3: It's going to have an online shooter component like a multiplayer,
Speaker 3: you know, but it's not going to have you know,
Speaker 3: that six to eight hour story. Uh, that's good, and
Speaker 3: then introduce you to Marathon and you know all this
Speaker 3: other stuff. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that would do it for me as well,
Speaker 1: right Right. The thing is that you're wanting people to
Speaker 1: invest forty dollars in this game, right, and you're trying
Speaker 1: to also get people to get to pull them away
Speaker 1: from the game that they're already playing, which a lot
Speaker 1: of Times is free.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like how they how can they compete against
Speaker 3: the game I saw this compared to most was Apex Legends,
Speaker 3: and it's like, how can they compete against that that
Speaker 3: that's free and that has a somewhat built in fan baise,
Speaker 3: you know, like a relationship with you know, titan Fall
Speaker 3: and good Luck because it's you know, it's already been
Speaker 3: five or ten years or I think it's like seven
Speaker 3: years or something that that game's been around.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean not.
Speaker 1: To mention the fortnites and the other things that are
Speaker 1: around that take up people's time, you know, right it
Speaker 1: do you mentioned the aforementioned Escape from Tarcraft that people
Speaker 1: are already playing, like Hunt Showdown is there as well.
Speaker 1: Like it's just there's a lot of extraction shooters that
Speaker 1: are out there already that people are putting their time into.
Speaker 1: And then what it You know, the people you're trying
Speaker 1: to get are new people also, and if they don't
Speaker 1: even have the console that this thing is on, it's
Speaker 1: like it's not even like, Okay, I wanted to buy
Speaker 1: the console, whether it's a PS five or Xbox or
Speaker 1: whatever for other games games, and then it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: then I gotta spend forty bucks on this thing just
Speaker 1: to play it. It's like, eh, I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a steep It's not as steep as you know,
Speaker 1: Asking seventy, but it's still a steep ask when that
Speaker 1: was one of the problems with Concord. I'm sure they
Speaker 1: will allow this to go free to play, because again,
Speaker 1: it's bungeee and they're not going to just kill it
Speaker 1: on the vine like that. But man, it just it
Speaker 1: if it is not a roaring success. Uh. And look
Speaker 1: what happened with Hell Divers two, where it grabbed the
Speaker 1: zeitgeist and became the game for like four or five
Speaker 1: months before Sony kind of killed the ill will with
Speaker 1: it with the stupid PSN deal. And then also I
Speaker 1: think like content was starting to slow down and and
Speaker 1: things like that. That's really hard to do. So expecting
Speaker 1: expecting this game to do that already is is a
Speaker 1: bit much. But that also had an established thing with
Speaker 1: it also, and then it just has a different type
Speaker 1: of game that's not out there as much as the
Speaker 1: extraction shooter.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's more cooperative and it's you know, it's
Speaker 3: not quite as in your face about buying the battle
Speaker 3: path or you know, it's also.
Speaker 1: Just screams like fun, what do you get most out
Speaker 1: of its people just doing random ship and getting killed
Speaker 1: by bugs, I mean like you know, and then they
Speaker 1: had the most insane, ridiculous premise of democracy, democracy and
Speaker 1: all that other like making jokes and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: so like it just felt fun, whereas this feels like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're trying to be cool and our style is kind
Speaker 1: of neat or whatever, but it's just like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have that thing that makes you go, man, okay,
Speaker 1: I need to play this over something else.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean it feels like hell Divers almost
Speaker 3: seemed more like an accident. This seems more deliberately Forrest,
Speaker 3: like we're trying to be cool and edgy, but it's like, yo,
Speaker 3: you're just coming off as being like a poser, you know,
Speaker 3: like sing somewhat.
Speaker 1: I think it will do it well initially because it'll
Speaker 1: get hyped. It's bungeee. They do have time to alpha
Speaker 1: test this thing, which is something that they didn't do
Speaker 1: with Concord.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You had people, You have people that are kind of
Speaker 1: most of the people that I've seen talk about this,
Speaker 1: which I've watched like four or five different people that
Speaker 1: went and played it. They all have the same thought of,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm supposed to be excited about
Speaker 1: with this, But if you like Destiny One and you
Speaker 1: like the way that that was when it first started,
Speaker 1: this feels a lot like that where they could eventually
Speaker 1: get to the point where this is gonna be okay.
Speaker 3: The problem, yeah, there's two problems what you just said,
Speaker 3: I don't know. The first is I don't know why
Speaker 3: people would be or what was the first part.
Speaker 1: The Destiny one where it's.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that was the second one, but I don't
Speaker 2: know why.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have the hook right the hook?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's one problem. But the second problem is, yeah,
Speaker 3: this game shouldn't be like Destiny one because that game
Speaker 3: was a a disaster when it came content. Wasn't there,
Speaker 3: the story basically wasn't there, you know, just offloaded it
Speaker 3: to scra the.
Speaker 1: Grim War cards that Yeah, you had to go outside
Speaker 1: of the game to figure.
Speaker 3: Out that's what I mean. Yeah, like loosn website. You know,
Speaker 3: Peter Dinklice, given his career performance of the of the Decade.
Speaker 2: And act thing.
Speaker 1: Just replaced him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you.
Speaker 3: Know, gameplay very you know, the shooting was okay or good,
Speaker 3: but like it had like one mission type. It's just
Speaker 3: like go to this base or go to you know,
Speaker 3: run to this level, hit hit ghosts, and then you know,
Speaker 3: defend him for five minutes.
Speaker 1: And they did say the missions are going to be
Speaker 1: based off a menu as well, so it's not like
Speaker 1: even you're not finding it on the map or whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's extremely hard to get into now, I think,
Speaker 3: but like, why would you play this, Like if I
Speaker 3: was going to play something like this, I'd just play
Speaker 3: like Warf RAMEO. Okay, at least that's been running out
Speaker 3: running for six or in took decades or whatever and
Speaker 3: has all the content.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, that's another thing that makes so hard. There
Speaker 1: are so many games that already have so many years
Speaker 1: of content you can go through if you're looking into
Speaker 1: get into something like that, whereas this is starting out
Speaker 1: and okay, you get the full the cool thing of like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm on the ground floor. But if the county people
Speaker 1: are going to stick around after the first couple of
Speaker 1: weeks a month or whatever and stop, right, so yeah,
Speaker 1: well obviously we'll have to see. It's all the way
Speaker 1: till September twenty third, when it comes out my brother's birthday,
Speaker 1: shout out to him, but he actually he's streams escaped
Speaker 1: from Tarkov, so I actually need to ask him what
Speaker 1: he if he's been looking at this at all on
Speaker 1: money things.
Speaker 2: He's one of those people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, yeah, exactly, but he's he's kind of that
Speaker 1: target on his all. Right, you're trying to get people
Speaker 1: from that game to move over to this game, and
Speaker 1: it's like, I wonder that's so established ingrained in people.
Speaker 1: They don't know what they're going to go over the
Speaker 1: way you want them to. Also, it's my daughter's birthday,
Speaker 1: having birthday to night. She's fourteen today, so crazy, we're
Speaker 1: getting up to the high school age already next yek goodness.
Speaker 2: But yeah, not for real.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm already freaking out just thinking about, like, man,
Speaker 1: how many years we've been doing this show, and then
Speaker 1: you know, just that whole time frame of her growing
Speaker 1: up with that, and it's just like man, how time flies? Right?
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's kind of the the gist of it.
Speaker 1: You know, if you have thoughts on Marathon, what you
Speaker 1: think it's going to do if you care about this
Speaker 1: at all. Normally we don't talk about these kind of
Speaker 1: games that much. But since you know, people were talking
Speaker 1: about prices all the time now with Nintendo switch and
Speaker 1: I switched to and all that stuff, might as well
Speaker 1: have brought it up here with Sony and Marathon, I
Speaker 1: am speaking of Sony. They did raise the price of
Speaker 1: the digital PS five and regions due to inflation, because
Speaker 1: you know, we're overdy on the Sony kick here. It's
Speaker 1: going up an increase of fifty euros in Europe, so
Speaker 1: now the digital edition costs almost just as much as
Speaker 1: the regular edition. In the UK, it's going up forty
Speaker 1: pounds to four twenty nine ninety nine from three eighty nine.
Speaker 1: And you remember they did a price change in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, so this is the second time that you've
Speaker 1: done a price increase, not a price drive, a price
Speaker 1: increase in the five years that this almost five years
Speaker 1: and system has been around. I don't know if I'm sure,
Speaker 1: maybe or maybe not. Xbox will follow suit at some point,
Speaker 1: although Australia went up as well. Uh So, any thoughts
Speaker 1: on this at all?
Speaker 3: I mean it shows that like the market is still
Speaker 3: very in flux because you know, by this time the
Speaker 3: things should be going down price, not up.
Speaker 1: But I mean the Swiss never went that never went up,
Speaker 1: but it also didn't go down either, so whereas p
Speaker 1: s and Xbox have both gone up.
Speaker 3: Uh so, yeah, I mean it's a consequence that increase
Speaker 3: material and the you know, the system being too very
Speaker 3: complex and even like when they make a revision, it's
Speaker 3: not like, oh no it's tune or all is cheaper,
Speaker 3: like it's like, no, it's the same price, not just
Speaker 3: it's in a smaller box.
Speaker 1: Well, and also probably has to do with the the
Speaker 1: volatile nature of this crazy trade war that's going on
Speaker 1: and the stuff with China and the US doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to be going away, right, and most of these systems
Speaker 1: are being made in China because of the materials. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, we'll see, uh how that goes. Because
Speaker 1: Nintendo is still waiting. They supposedly now they they have
Speaker 1: revealed when on my Nintendo you can possibly get a
Speaker 1: chance at a pre order right for the switch to
Speaker 1: and that's May eighth in the US and Canada, But
Speaker 1: we don't know when the retailers are going to get
Speaker 1: a shot at doing the pre orders quite yet. We'll
Speaker 1: see if we we do at this Mario Kart World
Speaker 1: Direct that is happening on Thursday. So I'd be very
Speaker 1: surprised that we get done with that Mario Kart World
Speaker 1: Direct and we don't have any announcement of get the
Speaker 1: Mario Kart World Bundle. Pre orders are this day. You know, like, man,
Speaker 1: if we're still going another week where we're waiting to
Speaker 1: see what's gonna happen, I mean, yeah, Nintendo can wait,
Speaker 1: no doubt he will pre order this thing. I mean
Speaker 1: if it's June fourth, right, But still it's like you
Speaker 1: got to get some people time.
Speaker 2: To yeah, get money together, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, figure out if they're gonna they're gonna have that
Speaker 1: home loan. I mean, it looks like so far, because
Speaker 1: they've shipped so many units the United States and other
Speaker 1: countries already that it's probably going to stay at four
Speaker 1: fifty because uh, you know, the president that's there in
Speaker 1: the United States did drop our pause all the terrorists
Speaker 1: except for the ones to China for ninety days, and
Speaker 1: everybody else except China is getting a ten percent terriff.
Speaker 1: So according to nie K and some other outlets that
Speaker 1: apparently this may cause Nintendo to just go ahead and
Speaker 1: go out there with the four to fifty price, and
Speaker 1: then I guess they will once they run out of
Speaker 1: the stock.
Speaker 2: That I said last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then also there's still that thought of what
Speaker 1: if they just don't release it in the United States?
Speaker 2: You know, I know, it never happened.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they would either, just because
Speaker 1: the US is such a huge market. No way, right,
Speaker 1: Like as far as like game purchases and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: it's I cannot believe. You know, we're going to be
Speaker 1: having that. It's going on Crafty you good to see
Speaker 1: you as well. Also, Crafty has his own podcast, video
Speaker 1: Game Happy Hour, which we're going to talk about having
Speaker 1: Crafty on the show here to be on with us,
Speaker 1: and maybe myself or both of us could be on
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. We'll talk about that on another outside of
Speaker 1: the show. But you know, the thing is, it's just
Speaker 1: interesting to me, like Nintendo definitely doesn't want to be
Speaker 1: dealing with this. We already see what Sony's having to
Speaker 1: do with increasing prices, Like can you imagine they put
Speaker 1: out this four P fifty for the switch to and
Speaker 1: then in like three months they're going, oh, sorry, we
Speaker 1: got to raise the price some more, like could you
Speaker 1: see them doing that?
Speaker 2: That's exactly what they're gonna do. I have no doubt
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: Man, you know how bad pr that's gonna be.
Speaker 2: No, it's gonna do.
Speaker 3: They're gonna sell it the four to fifty a lotment,
Speaker 3: and then once they sell that, go like, now it's
Speaker 3: six hundred dollars. You can can't trump for that, and
Speaker 3: then that's the end.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. I just feel like they're gonna
Speaker 1: meet in the middle and at some point they're just
Speaker 1: gonna be like, Okay, the price is five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: It's not moving and like and then you get to
Speaker 1: the holidays, because yeah, one other thing that we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about yet is that such a weird thing right
Speaker 1: there is this intentional Is it just because the administration
Speaker 1: doesn't know what video game consoles are? Is it like
Speaker 1: they don't think the consoles are important? Like they have
Speaker 1: hold on giving one. They've exempted smartphones, flat screen TVs,
Speaker 1: and uh computers, but not video game stuff. It's like, really,
Speaker 1: that's electronics. Like at first there was electronics, then they
Speaker 1: narrowed it down to those three things and it's like,
Speaker 1: why not video games?
Speaker 3: It's been pretty much uh said that, like Trump pats
Speaker 3: video games. So I can completely buy him being petty
Speaker 3: enough for the bullshit be happening. I mean he sees
Speaker 3: it as you know, you probably use it like you know,
Speaker 3: this is why we don't live and leave to beaver
Speaker 3: Land or whatever. It's his you know, GTA six exists
Speaker 3: or you know, video games or correct, right.
Speaker 1: I mean he he There was lack of reports of
Speaker 1: him wanting to do something against video games or violent
Speaker 1: video games or whatever it was at one point. But
Speaker 1: I mean, just like everything else with him, he has
Speaker 1: a fielding one moment, and then another moment he has
Speaker 1: another feeling and then you know, again we're talking about
Speaker 1: something that next week all the tariffs could be gone
Speaker 1: or something like. It's just something that's been changing literally daily. Man,
Speaker 1: we have no idea what's going on with this, but
Speaker 1: it's just insane that you are, you're doing this, and
Speaker 1: then it's like you go the extra malll of exempting
Speaker 1: things and then man, the switch to getting delayed was
Speaker 1: on the news that I watched every night. I mean,
Speaker 1: like this is this is national news. Is now that
Speaker 1: the switch to pre orders have been delayed the United States. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you think that somewhere somebody would be talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe we should exempt this as well
Speaker 1: for ninety days or whatever. Let the switch to come
Speaker 1: out at their price that they wanted to come out at,
Speaker 1: and then whenever they decide to do and after that,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. It's just it's volatile all the time.
Speaker 1: Will be interesting to see if Nintendo dares during that
Speaker 1: Mario Kart World direct to put out a price or
Speaker 1: put out some kind of okay, pre orders are going up,
Speaker 1: for sure, we'll see what happens, you know. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's that's why, Like you know, people were talking about
Speaker 1: why didn't you put the press in the direct? This
Speaker 1: is exactly why, because can you imagine them going back
Speaker 1: to that direct and it says, oh, switch is four
Speaker 1: hundred fifty dollars and then people go, what why am
Speaker 1: I paying five fifty at checkout for them?
Speaker 3: Again, that's the terrify bonus. They should they should reput
Speaker 3: out the direct and they have the priceis.
Speaker 2: Be tv A Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: And you know the other funny thing is, you know
Speaker 3: the common joke, one of the more common sexes jokes
Speaker 3: was in the past, was like, you know, a woman
Speaker 3: can't be president because you'll be so unpredictable about her
Speaker 3: time in the month. And it's like what as compared
Speaker 3: to Trump, Like yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean guys walking walking up predictability.
Speaker 3: So so I'd rather a woman be you know, unpredictable
Speaker 3: or a little chaotic one time of the month and
Speaker 3: not yeah a day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, look this guy whatever, whatever that
Speaker 1: happens with that. Ultimately, uh, so far Nintendo is still
Speaker 1: having this system come out on June fifth. We'll see,
Speaker 1: maybe they end up delaying it for the United States
Speaker 1: and it just comes out on in other regions as
Speaker 1: almost like a hey, stop messing around and.
Speaker 2: I'm going to Canada real quick, you know.
Speaker 1: Like I wonder if Nzinenda would dare do that, right, like,
Speaker 1: just okay, we're gonna release this in other regions and
Speaker 1: because you guys can't get your crap together, we're just
Speaker 1: not you know, we're just not gonna deal with this
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: You know, it'd be funny, it would.
Speaker 1: Be it would be interesting if they decided to go
Speaker 1: that route. I don't think they will, but right, but
Speaker 1: speaking of prices, a lot has also been made about
Speaker 1: these switch To edition key cards and whether they had
Speaker 1: the entire game on the on the the actual cartridge
Speaker 1: or not, which means could you resell them. Nintendo did
Speaker 1: come out and officially announced that the switch To editions
Speaker 1: have the actual game on the key card and the upgrade,
Speaker 1: so you can resell them, and also you can resell
Speaker 1: these key cards for the third party games that use
Speaker 1: them because it's not tied to your Nintendo account, it
Speaker 1: is tied to the actual game. So even though it's
Speaker 1: a it'essentially just a license to download the game, that
Speaker 1: license will always be on that cartridge, so you can
Speaker 1: resell the game, which is good for people that you
Speaker 1: know still buying physical. Nintendo has not officially There's a
Speaker 1: lot of misinformation out there about the whole what is
Speaker 1: the Nintendo Switch physical price? Nintendo themselves has not said
Speaker 1: a lip of anything about this. So therefore, until Nintendo
Speaker 1: themselves says something, I don't want to go down that
Speaker 1: road about is physical going to be ten more dollars
Speaker 1: or five more dollars or whatever? Right now we know
Speaker 1: marri Car World is eighty dollars, Knackong seventy. The Switch
Speaker 1: To editions vary between seventy and eighty, depending on if
Speaker 1: they include extra content like Kirby, or you don't include
Speaker 1: content like the Breath of the Wild switch To edition,
Speaker 1: which does not include the DC So that makes that
Speaker 1: game ninety dollars if you choose to buy the DLC
Speaker 1: separately from the switch To edition, which has already got
Speaker 1: that ten dollars upgrade. What do you do you think Nintendo?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Nintendo doesn't care about what you pay.
Speaker 1: They may charge you ten bucks for a freaking ad
Speaker 1: for the Nintendo switch to and welcome to her right,
Speaker 1: Where do you kind of land on this thing? Like, man,
Speaker 1: that game is eight years old? You can't include the DLC.
Speaker 3: I land on what I said last week when I said, like,
Speaker 3: Nintendo sem vics are becoming a lot more of like
Speaker 3: greedy or just you know, money driven, Like I don't
Speaker 3: think why I would have put up with this shit,
Speaker 3: And there's no one like I think Reggie, you know,
Speaker 3: he was like he was talking about standing up to
Speaker 3: like uh the Mario guy, MEI Moto, Yeah, Ammian Moto
Speaker 3: wanting to charge for wee sports, And Reggie's like, no,
Speaker 3: like give it away, like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the game that's going to get people
Speaker 1: to buy your console.
Speaker 3: It's it's like the only you know, one of the
Speaker 3: few only good things for the WED that like actually
Speaker 3: demonstrates this technology. Well, the surest fuck isn't Red Steel
Speaker 3: like get you know, and Memoto just Memota just being
Speaker 3: pissed about it even like now. And it's like there's
Speaker 3: like a fundamental not understanding of the market. And it's
Speaker 3: like I'm sure Mimoto he's really rooted in like the
Speaker 3: Japanese market, and like you know how they buy games.
Speaker 1: But oh when they lowered, they lowered the prices of
Speaker 1: the console for the Japanese, right, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's also like, yeah, go into any you know,
Speaker 3: Japanese game store, of the games are under like five bucks.
Speaker 3: Basically they can get them copy Mario World for Super
Speaker 3: Fam account for a dollar, you know, one hundred yen.
Speaker 3: That doesn't exist in America, right, I mean, if anything,
Speaker 3: it just keeps going up and up, you know with
Speaker 3: retro games and stuff. So I think that stipid demo
Speaker 3: thing whenever the coction, yeah, that should be free. That
Speaker 3: should be packing at least with the first round, you know,
Speaker 3: the initial people you know buying the thing, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it just seems like they're beginning like less used to
Speaker 3: feel like magical. It's same like Disney and Disney last
Speaker 3: had a long time ago.
Speaker 1: They're doing that more in other things, right, they're doing
Speaker 1: the Disney thing in Hey, come to our theme parks,
Speaker 1: you'll get your magic there. Come watch our movie.
Speaker 3: Right, No, come to our theme parks and spend thousands
Speaker 3: of dollars.
Speaker 1: Right, but you get that cool like moment of oh man,
Speaker 1: Nintendo love all this old stuff, and they're banking on
Speaker 1: that nostalgia to try to sell you this stuff. And
Speaker 1: it just feels like, man, it feels like Nintendo of
Speaker 1: old would have said, Okay, you know what, it's been
Speaker 1: long enough, we made our money on After the Wild DLC.
Speaker 1: Let's just give it to them all. Give it all
Speaker 1: to them for seventy right.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's an old game. It came out with the original
Speaker 1: Switch one, like you know.
Speaker 2: Uh and the and the we you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, we exactly it was the last right we.
Speaker 3: Still like you know, it's a two generation old game.
Speaker 3: Like imagine if I mean I'm not talking the online part,
Speaker 3: but imagine a g T A five had come out
Speaker 3: with the actual story DLC for PS three and for
Speaker 3: the p S five version.
Speaker 2: They're like, no, we're gonna make it still. You're gonna
Speaker 2: make you.
Speaker 3: Still buy its for you know, the epilogue to you know,
Speaker 3: uh Vincent or not Vincent, but uh, I forget to
Speaker 3: get any get any of the characters names to that thing.
Speaker 3: But you know it's been yeah, but yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: here here more like heist, like single player heist or something.
Speaker 1: But people be outrage, Oh for sure, it's just and
Speaker 1: there are people outrighted this. It's just it's that like
Speaker 1: fake outrage where you get mad, but it's like, you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna buy it anyway, so it kind of
Speaker 1: is what it is. Although to be fair, it's DLC,
Speaker 1: you don't have to buy it doesn't preclude you from
Speaker 1: buying the actual game or just getting the ten dollars
Speaker 1: upgrade to get a game you're with you own. But look,
Speaker 1: we'll see if they ever actually exercise the lower end
Speaker 1: of this variable pricing with games.
Speaker 2: My crystal ball saying no, but.
Speaker 1: You know, i'd imagine that they're gonna try to keep
Speaker 1: things in the seventy and eighty range because that's what
Speaker 1: they want. The game prices to be they want them
Speaker 1: to be at that price. And again, if I'm take
Speaker 1: two right now, I'm looking at GTA six and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: we can easily charge one hundred dollars for this thing,
Speaker 1: especially because they get to they get to just watch
Speaker 1: that system comes out June fifth, and people still buy
Speaker 1: these games and everything, even though apparently according to game Stop,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of systems, but there's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of physical games for you to buy.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna get a lot of games, but of
Speaker 1: course you don't need that many. You can just go
Speaker 1: buy them a little sword. So right, we'll see, uh
Speaker 1: one positive, I guess that they're gonna make this Zelda
Speaker 1: Notes app have even more to it. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour Lack reward that you can roll
Speaker 1: once a day, and one of those rewards is going
Speaker 1: to be a weapon repair reward. So the thing that
Speaker 1: you couldn't do at all in the Breath of the Wild,
Speaker 1: and then of course they did have it to where
Speaker 1: you could do it with certain enemies in Tiers of
Speaker 1: the Kingdom. Now the bane of a lot of people's existence,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to roll and get that reward
Speaker 1: on using the Zelda notesap. You think it's gonna get
Speaker 1: people to use that app?
Speaker 2: Down, No, you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna I don't, you know, I don't think people are.
Speaker 3: You know, new fans are going to care. And the
Speaker 3: people who already really care, they already have a strategy,
Speaker 3: they already build.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've already played the game. Yeah, I do think it,
Speaker 1: you know, looking prettier and all that, you are going
Speaker 1: to get people to go back and play this, because
Speaker 1: you know that was the problem with you know, Tears
Speaker 1: of the Kingdom especially was man there was parts of
Speaker 1: it where it just ran bad, right, and running better
Speaker 1: on a new system might get people would be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think I'll finally finish that game. Maybe people will
Speaker 1: check out the notesap for the GPS whatever. But hey, look,
Speaker 1: I'm down with Nintendo's trying to find different ways to
Speaker 1: use your phone besides giving us games that outside of
Speaker 1: firing them, I don't think anybody wants. So, you know,
Speaker 1: these apps are interesting. It's another way to make your
Speaker 1: Switch online thing worth it. Also, if you have switch online,
Speaker 1: you can get all these upgrades, at least for the
Speaker 1: Zelda games included, So I guess, I guess that's good
Speaker 1: to another just pretty much like the Animal Crossing DLC.
Speaker 1: Then they've done with other DLCs where they included in
Speaker 1: your Switch Online subscription, So right, you know, positive on
Speaker 1: that front, and it's really not it's not that expensive considering,
Speaker 1: you know, for one month of PS plus extra or
Speaker 1: sorry premium or one month of game Pass, you can
Speaker 1: get a whole year. Yeah, regular Switch Online, you know,
Speaker 1: think about that. Not that bad.
Speaker 2: Speaking of until they raise the price of that as well.
Speaker 1: I feel like that one. They'll wait as long as
Speaker 1: they need to because they're trying to make it such
Speaker 1: a worthwhile thing that now it's you have a whole
Speaker 1: button that you can't use if you're not subscribed to
Speaker 1: Switch Online, So you know, maybe maybe that will get
Speaker 1: people to subscribe because you want to use game chat.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Xbox, they did reveal their summer showcase date.
Speaker 1: It's going to be June eighth, so two days three
Speaker 1: days after the Switch to launches and two days after
Speaker 1: Summer Game Fest. As it's per usual, they usually have
Speaker 1: to be around summer game fests, so a lot of
Speaker 1: times it gets included in that whatever it will air
Speaker 1: at one pm Eastern and following that will be an
Speaker 1: Outer Worlds too direct. Kind of neat for Obsidian to
Speaker 1: have this time slot. They didn't give it to Call
Speaker 1: of Duty again. They gave it to Outer Worlds two here, so.
Speaker 2: Give it a worth while game.
Speaker 1: Well that's it. You don't need to sell Call of
Speaker 1: Duty on people. They already know. Like last year it
Speaker 1: made sense. Right, you're introducing game that it's gonna be
Speaker 1: on Game Pass all that stuff. You know, so cool
Speaker 1: that Outer Worlds two is going to get that moment. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know Xbox, if there's one thing they do right,
Speaker 1: these summer showcases, they nail it pretty well when it
Speaker 1: comes to these things for you, you know, an hour
Speaker 1: and a half show to watch, yeh.
Speaker 3: Share what you want about them. It helps Xbox at
Speaker 3: least has a dude or has a spokesman.
Speaker 2: You know they.
Speaker 1: Have three number they have three roads hitting spokesman spokespeople.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have one, right, yes.
Speaker 1: Phil is the main one. But Sarah, what do you
Speaker 1: do count a little bit?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: The we're all that Tony has is let's just say,
Speaker 3: not great or not charismatic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's good but not. Yeah, it doesn't jump out
Speaker 1: she's not Jack Tritten.
Speaker 2: Or Nintendo has a sound effect. So that's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah that, you know, they can have anybody there as
Speaker 1: long as they do the snap or the click or whatever.
Speaker 1: You're good. But yeah, so you're gonna, you know, we
Speaker 1: have this hour and a half show what games? Do
Speaker 1: you feel like they have to show at this thing
Speaker 1: in order for it to be another winner Perfect Dark?
Speaker 1: I think for sure you better. If you're gonna tell
Speaker 1: me that Fable got delayed, you better have something of
Speaker 1: the show for Fable more. Yeah, no, not pre off
Speaker 1: of it is even though that looked pretty good. Still,
Speaker 1: you know you need to have something to show there.
Speaker 1: It'd be interesting. And like if you show Perfect Dark
Speaker 1: last year, do you get Perfect Dark year off and
Speaker 1: show off you know, State of d K three which
Speaker 1: only got a trailer last year, which had no release dates?
Speaker 2: Interesting to the show off Silk Song.
Speaker 1: It's coming to game Pass, so you could, right, you
Speaker 1: can technically show off Silk Song. I feel like yours
Speaker 1: E Day has to have a big presence. Yes, if
Speaker 1: it's still supposed to be coming this year. Could ever Wild?
Speaker 1: You know, Phil technically addressed ever Wild? So will they
Speaker 1: have an ever while? Uh, two to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: this game is still happening, you know, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: It's still coming any other like, you know, I like
Speaker 1: to see a clockwor revolution, Like what's going on.
Speaker 2: With that Brute Force too?
Speaker 1: You think you think we'll get Blade and Speaks?
Speaker 2: I kind of forgot about it.
Speaker 3: Maybe it'd be funny though if they had, you know,
Speaker 3: the Ali voicing.
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention that the Marathon. Actually, they announced
Speaker 1: that it's coming on Xbox and it's still kind of
Speaker 1: weird that that's a Sony studio. But because of the
Speaker 1: deal that they sign with Bungie, Uh, it's coming to Xbox,
Speaker 1: so right, Yeah, interesting if that's eventually comes to switch
Speaker 1: to as well.
Speaker 2: It has to like they can't afford it on the Expert, right.
Speaker 1: They definitely got to give it all the chances they have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be interested to see what else Microsoft
Speaker 1: has cooking that. No, Like, it's are we going to
Speaker 1: get the next uh Double Find game? You know you've
Speaker 1: been asking for that, Like, what are they doing? Is
Speaker 1: Fall Fantasy seven remake going to finally show up with
Speaker 1: this thing now that Nintendo has uh broken the seal
Speaker 1: on the going to other platforms thing. I feel like
Speaker 1: this is the moment, right, It's probably gonna be the
Speaker 1: same kind of release window as Nintendo.
Speaker 3: It'd be fun if they're like, no, it's the Xbox,
Speaker 3: Isn't isn't powerful in the firm fount of fantasy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that Square has a decent
Speaker 1: presence here as well. You think we get any surprises
Speaker 1: from Sega Atlas maybe you know, they.
Speaker 3: Know may I mean maybe Sega maybe like some news
Speaker 3: tonic thing, but don't be won't be a Cuza. I
Speaker 3: don't damn frow won't be persona or metaphor you know
Speaker 3: anything like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they got to be working on whatever the
Speaker 1: next lack of dragon thing is right with Eachuban like, right,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're doing what is it that centric
Speaker 1: Project Century game? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: You know, that could be they do.
Speaker 3: It'll just be like a very quick teaser. It'll just
Speaker 3: be like if you've on in the streets of Hawaii again,
Speaker 3: or you know.
Speaker 1: Or whatever next city they go to, or Baltimore. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe crazy Taxi or jet jet set could be shown
Speaker 1: off here. Because they have that relationship with Xbox back.
Speaker 2: In the day.
Speaker 3: It would be great if they were like, Yo, we're
Speaker 3: gonna put jet Set Radio Future back out, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: cause I's like the one that that game never got
Speaker 3: a re release. Jet Set Radio did not Future and
Speaker 3: Future is a much better game.
Speaker 1: Just to throw the sentence if we're talking about maybe
Speaker 1: games tozer Bob did say when they talked with a
Speaker 1: Canadian guy, a content creator Paul Jahan, was on his
Speaker 1: channel talking about games they would love to make, and
Speaker 1: he mentions that they would love to make a Banjo KAZOOI.
Speaker 2: Sure they're not going to make it, so, you know
Speaker 2: I have been Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Rare is not going to make it. So if there's
Speaker 1: anybody that's qualified, man, I'd love Torster Bobbity making. You know,
Speaker 1: Nuts and Bolts is kind of like that game that
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like. There's some people that
Speaker 1: you like.
Speaker 3: I like nothing multifying, but it's not like the collecting
Speaker 3: puzzle pieces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Until or whatever her name is.
Speaker 1: You know, it's nice, it's not the experience that you want,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I'd love to see it. That
Speaker 1: would be a really cool surprise if that happens to
Speaker 1: get I mean, there's been rumors about they'll do a
Speaker 1: big drop with Call of Duty. Also, uh.
Speaker 2: Conquer.
Speaker 1: Finally, we have a friend that I'm sure would go
Speaker 1: crazy if there was a big announcement for that brought out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be interesting. Yeah, look, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: It's still a few months away. You know. We supposedly
Speaker 1: this Oblivion remake is going to get announced at any
Speaker 1: point during this month. I don't know, or do they
Speaker 1: wait till the Summer showcase to just be like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's out right now, but we'll see. We'll see if
Speaker 1: you get anything. But that's the wise because you know
Speaker 1: Doom Dark Ages, will it would have been out? Will
Speaker 1: they have anything else cooking anything? You know? Will they
Speaker 1: do something else with Starfield? Let's see.
Speaker 3: I could see them put them going like hey, Starfield's
Speaker 3: complete edition.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, you know, if Last of Us can have
Speaker 1: a complete edition, why not? Right just to throw this
Speaker 1: out there because I did the ride up for outter
Speaker 1: Haven on it, and also I'm supposed to get beta codes.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened with that. I did go
Speaker 1: ahead and preregister for rematches. This is that slow cap
Speaker 1: soccer game that they unveiled at the Game Awards that
Speaker 1: people were like, this is their next game, okay Rocket Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Rocket League's soccer game. It is only thirty bucks,
Speaker 1: but it is going to be on Game Pass Day one. Also,
Speaker 1: July nineteenth is when it launches on PC's Series X
Speaker 1: and PlayStation five. The new trailer they showed makes it
Speaker 1: sound like it's gonna be really fun. It's very Arcade influenced,
Speaker 1: but they also want to like have some simulation soccer
Speaker 1: elements to it. So I'm excited to finally get to
Speaker 1: play this, whether it's They're supposed to be doing a
Speaker 1: the first beta next week but on PC only. They
Speaker 1: did ask, you know, if I wanted on Xbox or
Speaker 1: PlayStation for whenever they do other betas, So it feels
Speaker 1: like they're gonna do a rollout of beta's several times
Speaker 1: before we get to July. So hopefully I'll get to
Speaker 1: play it at some point and talk about it. But
Speaker 1: it looks fun for everything I've seen from that, a
Speaker 1: game that yeah being yeah, let's see if they do
Speaker 1: actual people here, messy DLC or something. The album of
Speaker 1: four has a roaduemap of ten to twelve years as
Speaker 1: Rob ferguson uh They recently unveiled the you know, road
Speaker 1: maps of twenty twenty six, but Brod Ferguson was asked, like,
Speaker 1: how long do they think this is gonna go before
Speaker 1: there's a thought of Diablo five. We said ten to
Speaker 1: twelve years. That leave you with a good feelings you'll
Speaker 1: be playing Diablo four for a while, or.
Speaker 3: I mean, the expansions are fine, but like I looked
Speaker 3: at the road map they announced like the rest of
Speaker 3: the year, and it's just disappointing as all hell.
Speaker 1: And I I read that there's nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like cosmetic.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kinds of out of mind cosmetics in theory,
Speaker 3: but like it's all the cosmetics in the game right now.
Speaker 3: Just and it's like I got money in the game
Speaker 3: because I got like the Premium edition, but it's like, well,
Speaker 3: I they spend any money in this crap.
Speaker 2: It's all just so basic.
Speaker 3: And and I think they announced like a partnership for
Speaker 3: like like you know, like a third party partnership for
Speaker 3: like let me said, yo, I want like I want
Speaker 3: to be riding like the Coca Cola Polar Bear or
Speaker 3: something cool like.
Speaker 1: That, you know, I mean, and that would be very
Speaker 1: not gonna.
Speaker 3: Len So I don't mind in theory, like if they
Speaker 3: make meaningful expansions, that's one thing. But I really dislike
Speaker 3: how they're focused on, like the seasonal content stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and because it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't it doesn't it really doesn't go back in like
Speaker 3: the main game. So it's like, why would it. Why
Speaker 3: would they keep up with seasonal content when you know,
Speaker 3: three after three months, the season's over and this character
Speaker 3: just get to drop kicked back to the main game.
Speaker 3: If any they're cool shit anymore, you know, Right, So
Speaker 3: that's my take on it.
Speaker 1: I mean it's good. I'm glad to hear that Rob
Speaker 1: Ferguson has a big, long road map for it. Hopefully
Speaker 1: you know a lot of it is better than what
Speaker 1: they've shown already for you and anybody else that could
Speaker 1: use to play that game or have a passing interest
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 2: I still play it every day.
Speaker 3: I got loaded up kill at the main boss or
Speaker 3: like a great quick dungeon run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, non none, But like.
Speaker 3: I already have a really good main character, so I
Speaker 3: don't want to create a bunch of alts either.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's another thing, right, Like they have you where
Speaker 1: you have to create the alts and stuff lastly here, Uh,
Speaker 1: we're not going to get the full like breakdown of
Speaker 1: it until next week on the nineteenth, and then furthermore
Speaker 1: on these you know, I'm sure like May the fourth,
Speaker 1: they might have something as well for Star Wars Zero Company.
Speaker 1: That's the name of the star that turn based strategy
Speaker 1: game that's being made over at EA. This guy announced
Speaker 1: along with it when they announced the Star Wars Jedi
Speaker 1: third Entry and then that shooter that they've now canceled.
Speaker 1: This is being made by bit React to the people
Speaker 1: that are you know, made from Fracis Games. Uh right,
Speaker 1: like kind of cast offs and stuff. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think a Star Wars turn based strategy game would
Speaker 1: be interesting, right.
Speaker 2: Like they've done before.
Speaker 1: Really, So yeah, we'll see if they what they have
Speaker 1: to show on the nineteenth, And you know that and
Speaker 1: Or Season two is coming pretty quick here as well.
Speaker 1: So they got a lot of Star Wars. I've watched
Speaker 1: like the first five episodes and then I forgot to
Speaker 1: go back, but I did like a lot of what
Speaker 1: I saw that show. Yeah, there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that love that show. So I'm glad that they gave
Speaker 1: it the the season two. I am sad that speaking
Speaker 1: of shows, Mythic Quests was canceled. At least they're doing.
Speaker 1: They're letting them have an ending. They're gonna like reshoot
Speaker 1: the ending, and then it's going to be out there
Speaker 1: next week or something. So it's crazy to think. Like
Speaker 1: when they first announced that, I think everybody was laughing
Speaker 1: about how it's going to be terrible and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and then they wound up last four seasons and right,
Speaker 1: very much like all of Apple stuff, It's like you'll
Speaker 1: have like the one breakout show and then they have
Speaker 1: all these other great things on there, and nobody knows
Speaker 1: that they're there because Apple doesn't promote their stuff at all.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I also don't have an iPhone, so
Speaker 1: maybe if you have an iPhone, they're constantly bombarding you
Speaker 1: with like Apple TV, Apple TV. But they did finally
Speaker 1: released an Android app not too long ago, so that's promising.
Speaker 1: But then they've also stopped doing the It felt like
Speaker 1: for a while everybody that I knew, on every device
Speaker 1: thing that I had, was doing a free three months
Speaker 1: of Apple TV, and then all of a sudden, it
Speaker 1: feels like this year they stopped doing them. Right, That's
Speaker 1: how I would check out content is that like my
Speaker 1: LGTV would give me three months free, then something else
Speaker 1: would give me for three months free. And it's like
Speaker 1: I think I had a whole year where I had
Speaker 1: three months free. So it's like, yeah, you know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: if that sucks, that metic pest getn't canceled, But I
Speaker 1: mean the fact that it lasted four years that's still
Speaker 1: a testament to them. So but all right, I guess
Speaker 1: we can just go ahead and end the show like
Speaker 1: we always do here talking about the oh go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I was gonna bring up speaking of TV
Speaker 3: crap you no, Black Mirror, find a game back?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Black Mirror. And then of course the last of
Speaker 1: US season two's came back yesterday.
Speaker 2: You didn't mention it or because I'm I don't even
Speaker 2: think you know what you no came back? But Doctor
Speaker 2: Who came Back?
Speaker 1: I did not. Now I have to go and watch that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they did such a poor job of letting
Speaker 3: people know, you know, it's like it's back.
Speaker 1: Like, to be honest, the only thing I watched like
Speaker 1: that's like live TV is sports. So if that does
Speaker 1: not come on a basketball game or soccer game commercial,
Speaker 1: I'm probably not seeing it. To be fair or it
Speaker 1: comes on Hulu when they do that, right, But you're right,
Speaker 1: like I feel like man Disney owns Hulu, Like you
Speaker 1: would think that they would be plastering Doctor Who commercials
Speaker 1: all over that thing.
Speaker 2: But it's not even it's not it's not on Hulu,
Speaker 2: it's on Disney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're all work together, like you know, like's
Speaker 1: they could they could you ads for? I mean maybe
Speaker 1: on Disney Play. I don't watch any like literally, I
Speaker 1: have that bundle and Disney Plus is the one that
Speaker 1: I don't want. So you know, well, we'll see. I
Speaker 1: guess all events, I will get to it now that
Speaker 1: I know that it's out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, catch up.
Speaker 1: But all right, uh, let's get into some of the
Speaker 1: games that are coming out for this week. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Repose, which is a cool looking indie game that's
Speaker 1: like done in black and white but also kind of
Speaker 1: looks like an old style like the three D games
Speaker 1: that people should If you like that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: go check that out for sure. Indiana Jones Are the
Speaker 1: Great Circle comes out the PlayStation five. We'll see if
Speaker 1: this does well. The pre orders are supposedly, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty good for this game, not as high as far
Speaker 1: as the Horizon five, I imagine, but they're supposed to be
Speaker 1: like neck and neck right up there on the PlayStation stores.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if people actually wind up and join
Speaker 1: the game, and uh see if it gets any kind
Speaker 1: of buzz on PlayStation the way they did on Xbox,
Speaker 1: with the of course game pess helping there. The lust
Speaker 1: Foil photography sim game that another one of those Aniprona
Speaker 1: games that is literally about photography, comes out on Xbox,
Speaker 1: Fishing in PC. The Monument Valley games come to Switch also,
Speaker 1: and then of course the Lunar Remaster collection that we
Speaker 1: talked about comes to everything. If you're a fan of
Speaker 1: old school RBG is definitely one to try to support
Speaker 1: if you can. Also, Tempopo is coming on a game pass.
Speaker 1: But that's that cool like puzzle game that looks like
Speaker 1: you're controlling like a mushroom or elephant looking thing and
Speaker 1: solving doing like platforming a puzzle platforming sort of. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some of the cool things, but that's
Speaker 1: kind of like the big highlights for this week right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then you know, we're looking at clar Obscure and some
Speaker 1: of the things like the next week after that. So
Speaker 1: but all right, thank you everybody for joining us, whether
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Speaker 2: What bye,