Speaker 1: Hey, guys, before we get started, I just want to
Speaker 1: warn you. This episode's gonna gettain some talk of sexual
Speaker 1: assault and child death, and if any of this would
Speaker 1: make this heart listen for you, I'll suggest you don't
Speaker 1: listen to it. I'll see you on the next one later. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: Princess here, Welcome to another episode by Pumpkin. I don't
Speaker 1: know this is the main feed, but we're out of
Speaker 1: our season, so I guess this is a palette cleanser. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the vampire less stat I have been
Speaker 1: you know, I got a question like in AMA, which
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do another AMA soon. I got a question
Speaker 1: at AMA and that said, do you watch interview at
Speaker 1: the Vampire? And I remember answering being like, this feels
Speaker 1: like a troll because I feel like it's most of
Speaker 1: what I talk about. This is my whole personality. And
Speaker 1: on threads, you know, I was posting about the vampireless
Speaker 1: stat which is I'll get into it, but someone said, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I didn't know you watched this show,
Speaker 1: and it was like, how it's my entire personality, Like
Speaker 1: if you talk to me even a little bit, like
Speaker 1: a friend who I never thought I was watching this
Speaker 1: sent me a text that said, justice for Antoinette. And
Speaker 1: I mean, if you watch the show, it's one of
Speaker 1: the funniest lines. I don't think wants it's it's mostly
Speaker 1: his accent. I'm talking about like a really old fucking vampire.
Speaker 1: Justice for Antoinette. Anyway, she she just text me that
Speaker 1: because she knows. She knows i'd be watching this shit.
Speaker 1: If you're unfamiliar, an Rice prolific writer wrote a series
Speaker 1: of books in the Vampire Chronicles. I think it's like
Speaker 1: twelve or seven. It's a lot of books. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of books in the Vampire Chronicles. I have not
Speaker 1: read all of them. These books came out in like
Speaker 1: the eighties, right. I remember reading them when I was
Speaker 1: a kid. It starts with the interview with the vampire,
Speaker 1: the vampire Lesstette, and then it's the Vampire and then
Speaker 1: Queen of the Night. Hold on one second, I'll just
Speaker 1: double check that it's been such a long time since
Speaker 1: I've read these books. Actually, somebody on Threats was asking me,
Speaker 1: not asking me. She was She wasn't asking me, uh specifically,
Speaker 1: she was asking should she read the books that she
Speaker 1: really likes the adaptations, and there have been several adaptations,
Speaker 1: by the way, And I said no. I said no,
Speaker 1: because if if like, unless you were like literally twelve
Speaker 1: years old right now, these books have been famous for
Speaker 1: really these are very popular books, and they were written
Speaker 1: in the eighties, guys, so like, if you haven't found
Speaker 1: these books by now, these aren't your type of books.
Speaker 1: They're flowery, sometimes ornate kind of writing. Ann Rice does
Speaker 1: go on, she does go on, And they're nothing like
Speaker 1: the series adaptation. Here I found it. It is okay,
Speaker 1: so oh okay. They're even older than I thought. It
Speaker 1: looks like there are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
Speaker 1: Looks like there's twelve of them thirteen maybe so. Interview
Speaker 1: with the Vampires in nineteen seventy six, The Vampire List
Speaker 1: that nineteen eighty five. God, that was a long time
Speaker 1: between those, The Queen of the damn nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 1: The Tail of the Body Thief that's ninety two. Midnock, Mimnock, Midnock,
Speaker 1: the Devil, the Vampire armand so Midnock the Devil ninety five,
Speaker 1: The Vampire armand in ninety eight American two thousand, I
Speaker 1: don't believe I've read Merrick. I A lot of people
Speaker 1: have really loved that book. I think I'm gonna move
Speaker 1: to it because I really did like there's a sister series,
Speaker 1: kind of like in the same world, The Mayfair Witches.
Speaker 1: I really liked those books. I didn't get too far
Speaker 1: into them. Blooding Gold In two thousand and one, Blackwood
Speaker 1: Farm to Blood Canticle two thousand and three, prince Less
Speaker 1: Stat twenty fourteen, Princeless Stat in the Reams of In
Speaker 1: the Rooms of Atlantis twenty sixteen, Blood Communion of Tail
Speaker 1: of Princeless Stat twenty eighteen. I believe I got through
Speaker 1: The Queen of the Damned. There was just a couple
Speaker 1: of things that I were like a little too silly
Speaker 1: for me, and I just had so many books I
Speaker 1: under eh, guys, guys. So I had to go to
Speaker 1: the Apple Store in Virginia Beach and for me to
Speaker 1: get into the I brought my phone. Okay, on my
Speaker 1: trip to Texas, I dropped my phone getting out of
Speaker 1: an uber. I dropped my phone and my Lenovo think Pad,
Speaker 1: which is my workshit. It was raining, it was on concrete.
Speaker 1: I was getting into Uber not getting out and baby
Speaker 1: my phone cracked and my think pad did nothing, not
Speaker 1: a scratch on the bitch in the rain in the water.
Speaker 1: What did they say, You got a think pad, You
Speaker 1: got you jo, you got job security. And also your
Speaker 1: phone will be on ninety eight percent when you leave work.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of true. Both things are kind of
Speaker 1: true about my job. But I cracked my phone. I
Speaker 1: paid for Apple Care, so I just went I was
Speaker 1: gonna go to the store. So here's the thing, goods,
Speaker 1: I don't really I usually don't have the newest phone, right.
Speaker 1: I tried to keep a phone in the back pocket.
Speaker 1: I had an iPad, I had an iPhone thirteen. The
Speaker 1: seventeen came out this year. I was not getting a
Speaker 1: new phone. I was not getting a new phone. And
Speaker 1: then I noticed that my phone would start was starting
Speaker 1: to like heat up, like I was a suicide bomber. Okay,
Speaker 1: that bitch was heating the fuck up, starting to scare,
Speaker 1: used to burn my hand. And it's because I updated, right,
Speaker 1: updated to the new operating system. Like if you gotta
Speaker 1: keep an old phone, you don't update, okay, And I
Speaker 1: made a mistake and I fucking updated, and my phone
Speaker 1: was like, you're in danger. Girl. So I got a
Speaker 1: new phone, and I intended to get a fourteen, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm obviously not gonna get the newest phone.
Speaker 1: I don'tant to buy shit from Apple. And also like
Speaker 1: I don't want to be on that marrig around where
Speaker 1: you gotta get a new phone because I don't. Uh.
Speaker 1: My Apple Watch for a long time was like a
Speaker 1: series I want to say it was like a series five,
Speaker 1: and like people were like, well, I'd be in the store,
Speaker 1: not buying anything obviously, and I'd be in the store
Speaker 1: and people be like, oh, maybe you know, do you
Speaker 1: are you gonna move for are you in the are
Speaker 1: you looking for a new Apple? Actually? Like you know,
Speaker 1: I got this series five. And they'd be like, I
Speaker 1: don't even know which fucking series they're on. But I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this shit works, so leave me alone. I'm not getting
Speaker 1: new anything. I'm not getting a new anything. So I
Speaker 1: ended up with to seventeen. So here's the issue. I
Speaker 1: always pay for Apple Care because I want my shit fixed,
Speaker 1: and normally I get an old phone. Right, So what
Speaker 1: happens normally is I walk into Apple and they just
Speaker 1: give me a new phone because it's not fucking worth
Speaker 1: it because I got an old phone. And the main
Speaker 1: reason I didn't take my thirteen because I had a
Speaker 1: thirteen in the like the I don't forget the name
Speaker 1: of color where hunter green is my favorite color, and
Speaker 1: like just most people didn't have that color and they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had it to give it to me, So
Speaker 1: I forgot bitch, I got a new phone. So they
Speaker 1: were like, uh huh, so we'll hold it here and
Speaker 1: we'll give you a new screen. I was like, what
Speaker 1: happened to y'all? Just give me a new phone. They
Speaker 1: was like, not only seventeens, bitch. She didn't he didn't
Speaker 1: say it like that, but that's what he meant, not
Speaker 1: only seventeen's bitch. So I had to leave it there anyway.
Speaker 1: So that means I had to go to the mall
Speaker 1: twice that day, wants to go and then once to
Speaker 1: go back and get the phone. By the way, not
Speaker 1: having a phone for four hours, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to get nowhere. My kids couldn't
Speaker 1: contact me. I'm texting them from dad's phone. They're like,
Speaker 1: fuck it, we don't listen to Dad whatever, And I
Speaker 1: have to be like, it's mom be like, oh, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: never mind. I well could I couldn't read because I
Speaker 1: cause I didn't have my my my kindle with me,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't just open my kindle app there were
Speaker 1: some things I wanted to look up. Couldn't look that up.
Speaker 1: It was just a lie stuff. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I can't be phoneless. I got home and I just
Speaker 1: poured it my number to my old phone, the thirteen
Speaker 1: I was talking about in that pitch. It was hot,
Speaker 1: so as I turned it out, I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: you're back. It's like that, damn it. It was just
Speaker 1: basically like a little fire emoji. I was like, okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: So the whole I'm talking about this because I went
Speaker 1: to Barnes and Noble, another place I don't normally go.
Speaker 1: I've been a few times. I took my kids once
Speaker 1: because we were looking for some books or whatever, and
Speaker 1: they thought it was a fucking library. Every now and
Speaker 1: then they're like, you're you gonna take this back to
Speaker 1: the big library. I'm like, would you be Central Library?
Speaker 1: And they're like, no, you know the one with all
Speaker 1: the Barnes and Noble. That's the fucking library. Guys. That
Speaker 1: shit wasn't free. So so I never go to Barnes
Speaker 1: and Noble. I used to love to be in there.
Speaker 1: I used to haunt a fucking Barnes and Noble and like,
Speaker 1: so I went in. It's it's the interest where I
Speaker 1: go in to go to Zapple store. It's the quickest
Speaker 1: way in there. So I went in there, and mister
Speaker 1: Curtis was looking in stuff. He was looking at D
Speaker 1: and D stuff. So I'm just usually just walk straight through,
Speaker 1: but I'm just looking around and obviously what happens. Book?
Speaker 1: I need that book. I need that book. I need
Speaker 1: that book. That's a book I need to read. I
Speaker 1: haven't thought about reading that book, but I should think
Speaker 1: about reading that book. Oh what's this? What's that? What's this?
Speaker 1: What's that? What's this? So many fucking books in there.
Speaker 1: I just took a bunch of pictures. I did not
Speaker 1: spend three hundred dollars on books. I took a bunch
Speaker 1: of pictures of the books I borrowed a bunch of
Speaker 1: from the library. Any others I bought on Apple books,
Speaker 1: which I know people like, why would you buy a
Speaker 1: book on Apple books? Because if I buy a book
Speaker 1: on Apple books, I can share it with my entire family, no,
Speaker 1: no question about anything. I can share it with my
Speaker 1: entire fucking family. If I buy a book on and
Speaker 1: I can read it on an iPad. If I buy
Speaker 1: a book on Amazon, any book on Amazon, I can
Speaker 1: only read it with my Kindle. And people are like,
Speaker 1: you have to diverse from Amazon. I agree, but I
Speaker 1: can't do it with the books. I owned too many
Speaker 1: books from there. I'm sorry. I do? I do? I do?
Speaker 1: I do? They're like, you should get a Cobo. I
Speaker 1: don't want to fucking kobol. If I wanted a Cobo,
Speaker 1: I would have had one by now. Do you understand that?
Speaker 1: Like when people say, well, how come you don't have
Speaker 1: a Cobo, booknook, or whatever the fuck they call it?
Speaker 1: They I am a self identified reader. I haven't reading
Speaker 1: since I was three fucking years old. I books are
Speaker 1: my friends. It's how I disassociated from life for much
Speaker 1: of my adolescence and some of my adulthood. That's why
Speaker 1: I read so many fucking books last year. I was
Speaker 1: trying to pretend like I wasn't in this fucking simulation. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I if you think there is a book thing
Speaker 1: that I don't fucking know about you're crazy. If I
Speaker 1: wanted it, I would have it. But I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be tied to Cobo either, obviously, if
Speaker 1: I obviously, I I think that the fact that these
Speaker 1: e books are tied to a system are bad. Right,
Speaker 1: So drm free books are the way to go, But
Speaker 1: that's just not as easy to access as you would
Speaker 1: think it would be. And so if I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: tied to a system, it's gonna be Amazon. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna be Barnes and Noble, because I have loved many
Speaker 1: a bookstore, yeah, and a Bunchhels but just went out
Speaker 1: of business. So I can't imagine owning hundreds of Cobo
Speaker 1: e books and then not being able to read them. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the real solutions to buy physical books, sure, right, Physical
Speaker 1: books are expensive, they are they you have to find
Speaker 1: the space for them. I had owned so many books,
Speaker 1: and when I was younger, I used to work with
Speaker 1: this librarian I used to do. I used to do
Speaker 1: library in turn work. This is back when I thought
Speaker 1: librarians just sat around reading books, which is the stupidest
Speaker 1: thing I've ever Okay, so I was the one who
Speaker 1: said it, but it was the stupidest thing I've ever
Speaker 1: heard of in my life, because now that I think
Speaker 1: about it, I've never been in a library and just
Speaker 1: saw a library and sitting there reading books. Why would
Speaker 1: I think that that's what they do. But she really
Speaker 1: like instilled in me that, like, to love a book
Speaker 1: is to pass it on, right especially, I mean, you
Speaker 1: keep a few that you really love and then are
Speaker 1: like really like you know, formative to you. But to
Speaker 1: love a book is to give it to somebody else
Speaker 1: to read it. And so for a long time I
Speaker 1: didn't really keep books. I used to sell them back
Speaker 1: to the stores. I used to give them to people.
Speaker 1: I used to leave them in public spaces where people
Speaker 1: were reading some people could have them, somebody else could
Speaker 1: pick it up and maybe enjoy it, like you know,
Speaker 1: we're like a pile of magazines would be like in
Speaker 1: an office or something, or in a waiting room, I
Speaker 1: leave a book there. But I guess I really stopped
Speaker 1: doing that a while ago. So yeah, at the moment,
Speaker 1: I'm doing what I can. I'm not gonna lose access
Speaker 1: to all the books I've bought through Amazon back. I mean,
Speaker 1: the first time I used fucking Amazon was when I
Speaker 1: was in that argument with that evil librarian who was
Speaker 1: like trying to get me to pay for a book
Speaker 1: on Maltese breeding Maltese puppies that I checked out like
Speaker 1: as a teenager because I was on a pet. My
Speaker 1: parents never let me have a pet, so like check
Speaker 1: out books on pets like I'd be like, I check
Speaker 1: out a book on owning hedgehogs and like read all
Speaker 1: about it and spout all these facts and shit, the
Speaker 1: absolute wrong way to go. But I didn't know. I
Speaker 1: was a fucking kid, like a teenager, so I checked
Speaker 1: it out and never brought it back, and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be eighty five dollars. I was like, eighty
Speaker 1: five fucking It was some he can't remember the mount
Speaker 1: but eighty five dollars shows about right to me, some
Speaker 1: like ridiculous amount that. I was like, there's no way
Speaker 1: that book colls eighty five fucking dollars. And she was like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess you can find a use and it's out
Speaker 1: of print. I guess you can find an used copy
Speaker 1: on Amazon. And I was like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: what that is. And she told me that's the first
Speaker 1: time I went to Amazon. Bolling anything, and like, obviously,
Speaker 1: if I could go back, I wouldn't bought anything on Amazon.
Speaker 1: I would have like kept that shit on my life.
Speaker 1: I would not have I would have not tied myself
Speaker 1: to the Kindle system at all. Right, but you know,
Speaker 1: hindsight's twenty twenty, and at this point, all I can
Speaker 1: do is try to spread my books, my ebooks out
Speaker 1: over various little you know, various systems, and mostly used
Speaker 1: the library, you know, until I figure something else out.
Speaker 1: Why am I talking about this? Oh? Because it like
Speaker 1: going to the Barnes and Noble twice in one day,
Speaker 1: really like and then like the second time, mister Curtis
Speaker 1: had to go to a restrooms, so he left me
Speaker 1: around all these fucking books. Jeez, and I didn't have
Speaker 1: a phone. I had to use his phone and take
Speaker 1: pictures of the books. So it added my TBR list
Speaker 1: like is out of fucking control. My TVR list is
Speaker 1: always out of control. There's always some books that could
Speaker 1: be reading. And so that's probably why I didn't finish
Speaker 1: all the books in you know, the Vampire Chronicles. That said,
Speaker 1: and Rice can be a little difficult, to be honest,
Speaker 1: and the amount of years in between those books which
Speaker 1: is how publishing used to work. Amount of years between
Speaker 1: those books probably is the other thing that kept me
Speaker 1: from reading them all. But I am a book reader.
Speaker 1: The thing, oh, I was telling that person that, hey,
Speaker 1: if you have not run across these books, you probably
Speaker 1: don't need to read them. They're not any anything like
Speaker 1: the show that we've been watching. Speaking which let me
Speaker 1: go back. So this is an AMC show. It's called
Speaker 1: Interview with the Vampire, and they are going after the book.
Speaker 1: So the first season is called Interview with the Vampire
Speaker 1: Part one. The second season is called Interview with the
Speaker 1: Vampire Part two. The third season is The Vampire Less Detta.
Speaker 1: I think it's aid part one. I think the second
Speaker 1: season is gonna be part two. Although I can't exactly
Speaker 1: remember everything that happened to the Vampire less that we
Speaker 1: might be going straight to the Queen of the Damn.
Speaker 1: I want to think about it. We did meet Akasha
Speaker 1: in this season. It's on AMC. I started watching it
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime. That's where I first saw I think
Speaker 1: I saw some some edits on TikTok and that's how
Speaker 1: I started watching it. I started watching it when season
Speaker 1: two was about to come out, so I finished season one,
Speaker 1: went straight into the season two, and then I had
Speaker 1: to wait a year's I had to wait for the
Speaker 1: fucking season three, like I was waiting for a soldier
Speaker 1: to come home from the war. It was so fucking annoying.
Speaker 1: And also, this is AMC, so the model is not
Speaker 1: drop at all. Is drop one a week? Super annoying?
Speaker 1: There are only eight episodes a season, also very annoying.
Speaker 1: But it's a very good show, and when you have
Speaker 1: a very good show, it can survive a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff like this. Going back to the books, I want
Speaker 1: to say something. I'm gonna talk about this show. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna really be talking about the books. As a
Speaker 1: person that has read a few of these books, that
Speaker 1: has read quite a bit of what Anaris has written.
Speaker 1: The The Mayfair Witches Are is a better series. My
Speaker 1: understanding is the TV show is bullshit and I haven't
Speaker 1: watched it at all. It's got that girl with the
Speaker 1: two blue eye with the eyes that are way too blue.
Speaker 1: I think she was on the White Lotus the first season.
Speaker 1: Her eyes are just entirely too blue. But everyone says
Speaker 1: the acting is terrible. That said I might, I might
Speaker 1: pick it up. Uh, I'm known to love terrible things.
Speaker 1: When we get to let's test music, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. And I've had this argument with
Speaker 1: lots of people because lots of things are being adapted,
Speaker 1: and adaptation must stand alone. Okay, the source material, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it doesn't exist. It does, but it cannot
Speaker 1: add context to the adaptation. If the adaptation can't stand alone,
Speaker 1: it's bullshit. Okay. So when people are coming into the
Speaker 1: comments of shows, like people are talking about pretty Little
Speaker 1: Liars or rewatching it, and so someone will be like, well,
Speaker 1: the book's okay, but the books is not the show.
Speaker 1: If I have to read the book to understand the show,
Speaker 1: the show is not very good. And the same goes
Speaker 1: with the Summer I turned Pretty It's a horrible fucking series.
Speaker 1: I had to watch you with Bunny. That girl should
Speaker 1: leave that family alone. She really should. I know, I
Speaker 1: know it's my mother's. You should leave that fucking family alone.
Speaker 1: Stop dick hopping. Really, their lives are all fucked up,
Speaker 1: and you overhear stop stop Belly, just stop like there
Speaker 1: are more than these two people in the world. You're
Speaker 1: ruining their families, touf. But the same thing like people
Speaker 1: who read the books are like, well, okay, but that's
Speaker 1: the book, And the same goes for the movies. The
Speaker 1: same goes for any adaptation, and I'm a person that
Speaker 1: loves to read the book rather than watch. Usually adaptation
Speaker 1: isn't as good as the book. In my opinion, it's
Speaker 1: because they don't have the space that the book has.
Speaker 1: The book can take you to all kinds of sets
Speaker 1: and put you inside people's minds and show you this
Speaker 1: and show you that. But a movie or a TV show,
Speaker 1: and a TV show even less so, because there's usually
Speaker 1: a smaller budget, just can't do that. They're limited by
Speaker 1: the medium and they've got to show you more than
Speaker 1: they tell you on like a book, which I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it showed don't tell what you're talking about language,
Speaker 1: but honestly, the book is telling you everything, and in
Speaker 1: a movie you can't really do that. So in general,
Speaker 1: with the exception this is probably my exception interview with
Speaker 1: the Vampire series, This is probably my exception when I
Speaker 1: the book is almost always better than the adaptation. But
Speaker 1: back to the book readers, it's not the show. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's not the show. Yes, I know,
Speaker 1: I know. I know Claudia was five in the book.
Speaker 1: She was she's not in the show. And you know
Speaker 1: that person that I was telling, if you did these
Speaker 1: books didn't already find you are not for you. I
Speaker 1: should I should go back. I should tell her to
Speaker 1: watch to read the Southern Vampire series by Charlayne Harris.
Speaker 1: That's True Blood's written on, based on and I honestly
Speaker 1: think the True bloods camp be in a way that
Speaker 1: those books aren't. Those books are probably the right amount
Speaker 1: of gravitas that that person's looking for. I think Anne
Speaker 1: Rice's writing is a little too heavy for most people.
Speaker 1: It's not as enjoyable. And as somebody who enjoys books.
Speaker 1: I enjoy reading right. I am not reading to write
Speaker 1: a book report or to pass a sol test. I'm
Speaker 1: not doing any of the things I'm reading because I
Speaker 1: enjoy the reading. I enjoy stories. I enjoy the journey
Speaker 1: of the stories. It's not important for me to be
Speaker 1: able to recall every detail afterwards, because if I enjoy
Speaker 1: the experience, I'll read it again, will I And so
Speaker 1: like it's when people show up and they're like, I
Speaker 1: read the books one A lot of times they're trying
Speaker 1: to show off right, they're like, well, if you have
Speaker 1: read the books, blah blah blah. And two they're doing
Speaker 1: this thing. Not all of them, but many of them
Speaker 1: are doing this thing where they're like, reading is more,
Speaker 1: is makes me better than other people? Noah doesn't. Reading
Speaker 1: is just a medium of art. Okay, it is not.
Speaker 1: It's a medium of storytelling. It does not make you
Speaker 1: better because you're reading rather than watching movies. It's not
Speaker 1: does make you better that you're reading instead of scrolling
Speaker 1: the internet. It doesn't make you better. It's just a
Speaker 1: medium of content, of storytelling. And as someone who enjoys stories,
Speaker 1: books are my first medium, then you know, I really
Speaker 1: did get a lot of shit through books and my
Speaker 1: mother being a person that loves to read too and
Speaker 1: introducing me to the library. You know, I can hate
Speaker 1: it my mom for a lot of things, I can't
Speaker 1: hate her aun for that and her being like, you
Speaker 1: can get as many books as his card will let
Speaker 1: you get, and I was like, bet, Pitch, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get it. But I just want to be clear that
Speaker 1: reading doesn't make you better. Reading the books doesn't make
Speaker 1: you better than the fandom, because again, we're not talking
Speaker 1: about the books. If we were, we'd be saying in
Speaker 1: the books. So I want to be clear about that
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about this. Obviously, I'm not gonna recap
Speaker 1: this whole season for you. Just want to talk about
Speaker 1: some things I think worked and didn't work. And what
Speaker 1: I don't think works is the fandom. Certain people of
Speaker 1: the fandom constantly being like, well, if you read the books,
Speaker 1: I should not have to. These books are hefty too.
Speaker 1: They're not small books. They're not three hundred pages. How
Speaker 1: let me look this up. These are and I they
Speaker 1: I know that there are hefty books because when I
Speaker 1: was younger, I only wanted a hefty book. That's why
Speaker 1: how I started reading like a lot of fantasy and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I I wanted a hefty ass book,
Speaker 1: like uh, interview with the Vampire book. How many pages? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like anywhere from three forty three seventy. And I
Speaker 1: mean it's that huge. No, it's not huge, But to
Speaker 1: read all these books, it's it's a lot. When you
Speaker 1: read all of them, it's not huge. Three forty isn't huge.
Speaker 1: But I do remember I was never a person that
Speaker 1: liked the slim book. I'll tell you now. I enjoy
Speaker 1: a slim dark romance book with graphics. But I used
Speaker 1: to read the big ones. That's what I used to
Speaker 1: really love. So there understand that if you read the books,
Speaker 1: good for you, it doesn't make you better than anybody
Speaker 1: else in the fandom. Calm down, what else? Do anything else?
Speaker 1: I want to this with. Oh, let me talk about
Speaker 1: the seasons. So there have been three seasons. We finished
Speaker 1: the last season last on Sunday, Sundays when the last
Speaker 1: one came out, or maybe it was Saturday, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was watching it on Monday. And if I had
Speaker 1: to tell you in order of goodness, season one is
Speaker 1: the best season. It's a season where I saw stuff
Speaker 1: I'd never like. And again, i've read these books. There
Speaker 1: are no black characters black maybe there are no black
Speaker 1: characters there. Uh, I'm gonna say Lewis because that's how
Speaker 1: I was saying his name when I was reading the book.
Speaker 1: Louis was a was a white slave owner. Slaves figured
Speaker 1: heavily in the interview with the vampire. Not today, I
Speaker 1: would have read today. Like someone just offered, was like,
Speaker 1: you need to read this historical black this black historical
Speaker 1: writers books. I was like, yeah, I love historical fiction.
Speaker 1: I looked it up if the scene was the underground railroad,
Speaker 1: and I immediately was like, not for me, I'm I'm uninterested. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's just not it doesn't work for me. But normally
Speaker 1: I would have put that book down, but I guess
Speaker 1: I was. In the movies, I've kept I kept reading
Speaker 1: the the interview with the vampire, but yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: fucking uh. Louis hates the Stat from almost the first
Speaker 1: Louis hates him. Uh. In the shows Louis baby traps
Speaker 1: with Stat. It goes the other way around in the
Speaker 1: in the books. Actually, I think the movie with Chris
Speaker 1: Kirsten Dunce and Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. What a
Speaker 1: couple of fucking weirdos, right that movie came out and
Speaker 1: was like, oh, the hottest spin on the earth could
Speaker 1: be vampires, and it really did. It really did look
Speaker 1: like some when you go back and look at you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: my fucking god, this is horrible. And I think that
Speaker 1: was Kristen Dunt's first kiss was with Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt.
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt was the stat wasn't he was it? Tom?
Speaker 1: I never saw that. I just I've seen the clips
Speaker 1: of it, and it looks horrible, But I remember back
Speaker 1: then it was like the two hottest made on Earth,
Speaker 1: and people kept asking Kirsten Dunce about how it was
Speaker 1: to work with two. I mean, she was a a child,
Speaker 1: a little child, but how it was to work with
Speaker 1: these hot men, Like, oh my god, why would you
Speaker 1: be asking her that? But also like the fast forward
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and these are two two of the
Speaker 1: biggest fucking weirdos on the fucking planet, these two. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I think that's more of a faithful adaptation than the
Speaker 1: show is. The show is black and queer and so
Speaker 1: interesting in a way that the I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: books aren't interesting. The books are interesting, but they're but
Speaker 1: in a different way. Okay, in a different way. So
Speaker 1: the best season is season one. Like I said, I'd
Speaker 1: seen I you know, I've read the books and I
Speaker 1: knew the stories. I saw stuff that I never expected
Speaker 1: to see. A season two did not was lesser to me.
Speaker 1: A lot of it has to do with the with
Speaker 1: the change in actresses for Claudia. So Bailey, somebody, Bailey, somebody,
Speaker 1: let me get these people's names right. Who played Claudia
Speaker 1: on interview with the Vampire TV show. There are two
Speaker 1: Bailey Bass or maybe it's based Bailey Bass and Delaney Hales.
Speaker 1: So Bailey was the first one. She did in the
Speaker 1: first season, Delaney did the in second season, and she
Speaker 1: reprised her role in season three. But season three doesn't
Speaker 1: need her as much as these other seasons did. I
Speaker 1: believe Bailey could not do season two because of a
Speaker 1: scheduling conflict have something to do with Avatar. They also
Speaker 1: mentioned like some personal circumstances. I don't I guess I've
Speaker 1: heard some things, but I'm not quite sure. I think
Speaker 1: it had something to do with like the show. Maybe
Speaker 1: she didn't like the people in the show. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: The actress just look nothing alike. I'm not saying either
Speaker 1: one's a better actress or actor. I think Delaney got
Speaker 1: hit with a lot of hard stuff that got to
Speaker 1: really show her stuff. But I think Bailey got quite
Speaker 1: a bit of material to chew up as well. But
Speaker 1: what happens in between the seasons. Delaney comes on as Claudia.
Speaker 1: They look nothing alike. The two Becky's from Roseanne look
Speaker 1: more like than these two women look alike. So that's
Speaker 1: saying something the women look nothing alike, and they're playing
Speaker 1: the characters differently. The show gives us that the show
Speaker 1: works even though the characters change. The actress has changed,
Speaker 1: and it's because the character's changed, and it's because we
Speaker 1: are to believe. And it's kind of like this in
Speaker 1: the books too, that everyone on this show is not
Speaker 1: is a is not a reliable narrator. Louis is telling
Speaker 1: his story the way he tells his story interviewed the
Speaker 1: Vampire and the Vampire sat Stat is telling his story
Speaker 1: the way he saw it. And so because of that,
Speaker 1: and because of the way Louis loses Claudia in season two,
Speaker 1: and he's telling us the story back not necessarily as
Speaker 1: it happened. He's telling us the story back as he
Speaker 1: remembers it, based on her diaries and his memory and
Speaker 1: plot twists. Arman is fucking with his memories too, right, So,
Speaker 1: but season two didn't do it as much for me.
Speaker 1: Although I enjoyed it is one, I got tired of
Speaker 1: the theater shit. I got tired of I wantae. I
Speaker 1: got tired of it. There's a there's a vampire theater
Speaker 1: in Paris that they fall in the coven. They fall
Speaker 1: in with then's killing Claudia and trying to kill Louis,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's where a mom comes from. All this stuff,
Speaker 1: and I got tired of the theater ship. And also
Speaker 1: the way Delaney plays Claudia in season two is so
Speaker 1: chipper and so optimistic and so excited because she's going
Speaker 1: to see the old vampires and she her and her
Speaker 1: and Louis were both made by Lastat and they kill him,
Speaker 1: or so they think, and they go off to he
Speaker 1: you know, he never really told them anything. He didn'tell
Speaker 1: Hibou the Greatlaws of Vampirism. He kept a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff to himself out of self preservation. And so they
Speaker 1: want to go off to find more of their kind.
Speaker 1: They're going to the to the old countries, uh, the
Speaker 1: Transylvania's that sort of those sorts of countries what they
Speaker 1: called Eastern European. They're trying to go off to these
Speaker 1: old countries to find vampires and they don't really find anything,
Speaker 1: but Claudia is super chipper and excited, and she's her accident,
Speaker 1: her accent her there. I don't think Bailey's English, but
Speaker 1: everybody on this is British, except for the guy who
Speaker 1: plays the stat he's Australian, and Delaney's New Orleans accent
Speaker 1: is real bad, baby, real bad. She she's never met
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne. She's never met Little Wayne a day in
Speaker 1: her life. But but I don't mind it so much, okay,
Speaker 1: And she goes in and out of it, and I
Speaker 1: want you if you go back and rewatch it like
Speaker 1: I have rewatched it. When she dies in season two, guys,
Speaker 1: when she's dying, her accent leaves it sounds very British anyway,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like the way she plays the accent.
Speaker 1: I don't like her wig. I don't like I think
Speaker 1: she plays Claudia too chipper in a way that like,
Speaker 1: I mean, she does get deeps in despair about certain things.
Speaker 1: But I think she plays Claudia is not I said
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna talk about the books that I am.
Speaker 1: Claudia is a predator. She is the stats daughter, not Louise,
Speaker 1: and she is a manipulator. She's a predator, and she's
Speaker 1: far more dangerous than Louis could ever be. And Claudia
Speaker 1: and the way did Lenny plays Claudia in season two?
Speaker 1: Obviously this is it's written based on Howllue sees her
Speaker 1: after she's gone. But I didn't like it. I really
Speaker 1: didn't like it. And I'm not saying that Bailey is better.
Speaker 1: Bailey actually got on my nerves a lot. When so
Speaker 1: when Claudia's turned in the show, she's thirteen, right when
Speaker 1: she's turned, she's thirteen, fourteen years old, she's she's like
Speaker 1: a little bit. She's all like, well, daddy, lou and
Speaker 1: you know what, we got the ice cream and I'm
Speaker 1: so hungry. I'm like, yo, that's not what a fourteen
Speaker 1: year old and I guess it's the nineteen twenties that
Speaker 1: could be off for the year would sound like. In fact,
Speaker 1: your own age is almost married, okay, real close to
Speaker 1: being fucking married. So like, I didn't like that at first.
Speaker 1: They really bothered me. I'll get back to some of
Speaker 1: the way Bailey talk. I wonder how Bailey would have
Speaker 1: played Claudia in season two is a question. But I'm
Speaker 1: not saying Delaney's not a great actress. She really is.
Speaker 1: But like when when Claudia in season two is threatened
Speaker 1: by Armand and Armand and uh, Louis are already fucking
Speaker 1: and goes and says and says amandos says to Louis
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and armand goes. They have this huge fight.
Speaker 1: Louis goes, doesn't sound like him, which is a foolish
Speaker 1: thing for Louis to say, and they're arguing. They're both
Speaker 1: are talking at the same time, and and she's yelling
Speaker 1: at him. She's like, you're chasing it, You're chasing it.
Speaker 1: It is so different than when Bailey's Claudia and Louis
Speaker 1: used to argue. When there's this scene where he brought
Speaker 1: the stat back and Claudia has come back from going
Speaker 1: to look for the vampires and she has been assaulted,
Speaker 1: sexually assaulted and kept under the floorboards by an older
Speaker 1: vampire and she's back and they decided to bring the
Speaker 1: stat back in even though so a thing that happens
Speaker 1: in the season one is Lestat can fly and he's
Speaker 1: never told any either that again, he kept a lot
Speaker 1: of secrets. He grabs he and he and we are
Speaker 1: in a lover spat, to be honest, they're in a
Speaker 1: love lovers spat. Claudia has come back a Lastat is
Speaker 1: angry because Louis has been like essentially Gray gardenings it
Speaker 1: in with him and like refusing to live and basically
Speaker 1: being like Claude's not here, I don't want to be here.
Speaker 1: And they get into a big fight and Lastat picks
Speaker 1: Louis up and brings him into the air, not like
Speaker 1: above the house, like he's in space. Those are clouds
Speaker 1: he's in and they argue and he drops him from
Speaker 1: the sky and like, okay, he's a vampire, so is
Speaker 1: dropping him gonna kill him? No, there's only a few
Speaker 1: ways you can kill a vampire, as we find out,
Speaker 1: but that visual of him dropping him to the ground
Speaker 1: and him taking like three or four years to regenerate
Speaker 1: is so arresting, Like it stayed with me as so
Speaker 1: when they he you know, Lastete takes Lestat takes seven
Speaker 1: years to win him back, and they all decide to
Speaker 1: be a trio again. And the way there are the
Speaker 1: way Claudia's arguing with Louis about Lestat and what he
Speaker 1: is and what he isn't, and the way Luis been like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm drinking the blood, meaning he's actually hunting humans,
Speaker 1: cause he he would feed off of animals and rats
Speaker 1: a lot of times, but uh, that's his common mind,
Speaker 1: so actually gonna he's actually gonna hunt people, and he
Speaker 1: gave he didn't, but he gave up his own his
Speaker 1: uh other lover, Antoinette Brown. He he killed her. He
Speaker 1: tells them, and he's like, and what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like basically, what are you doing to make this work?
Speaker 1: This argument is so different than the way Claudia and
Speaker 1: Louis argue and I and I I know there's an
Speaker 1: argument for like unreliable narrator, the fact that this is gosh,
Speaker 1: this might be. Is it like twenty years apart? Ten years?
Speaker 1: It's it's many, it's it's a long, it's vampire time,
Speaker 1: so it's it's very far apart. I understand that. I
Speaker 1: just it's so different, and I think that part of
Speaker 1: the reason I did not I'm not saying it was bad,
Speaker 1: but the reason I didn't like season two is my
Speaker 1: season one is Delaney's acting in it and the way
Speaker 1: she portrays Claudia, because that's not how I envisioned Claudia.
Speaker 1: Some of the stuff Claudia does, like she's too smart
Speaker 1: for that. Why would she do this? How could she
Speaker 1: get caught doing that? So yeah, like, and then season
Speaker 1: three will be the least my least favorite, And that's
Speaker 1: not to say it isn't good. A lot of people
Speaker 1: are saying it's not good. When episode seven rolled around,
Speaker 1: that's a series, that's the season finale. A lot of
Speaker 1: people are really angry with it. I'll tell you why
Speaker 1: they were angry with it. It didn't moves forward in
Speaker 1: the story. The It was some great stuff. The long
Speaker 1: table of death and where they're eating was that soul
Speaker 1: and all the the acting was really great. The armand
Speaker 1: cutting off their heads and so on. The back on
Speaker 1: was interesting. It also pulls back from the books armand
Speaker 1: was doing some experiments with Claudia's body it, so it
Speaker 1: pulls some things from the books that I think that
Speaker 1: some people who did read the books were were genuinely like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to see this. But while there were lots
Speaker 1: of good things that happened. Uh. Louise brother Paul speaking
Speaker 1: to Lestat in his I don't know it so that's
Speaker 1: not in the afterlife. They keep saying he's almost dying
Speaker 1: and telling him it's hard for Louis to say this.
Speaker 1: He gets this from our father, but he does love
Speaker 1: you and thank you for loving him the way that
Speaker 1: he need to be loved. His Louise brother Paul died
Speaker 1: in the first episode. He was probably schizophrenic. He was
Speaker 1: someone who was seeing like a lot of religious d delusions.
Speaker 1: The birds would talk to him and he, you know,
Speaker 1: once Louis meets the stat and they starts hanging out
Speaker 1: with him, Paul is like, you know, Louise closet it obviously,
Speaker 1: and Paul is basically like, he's a devil, Da da da,
Speaker 1: and he and Paul ends up falling off the roof
Speaker 1: or maybe jumping, depends on who you ask. And there's
Speaker 1: always a question of whether Lestat made him. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people cause Lestat's at a dinner table
Speaker 1: with people that he is made into vampires, killed or
Speaker 1: traumatized in some way, and a lot of people see
Speaker 1: Paul there and they go, oh, okay, well he did
Speaker 1: kill Paul eve though he claim he's never he's never
Speaker 1: never done that, And I just don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: interpret it that way. I think Paul is someone he
Speaker 1: has deeply traumatized. But Paul looking at him and saying
Speaker 1: thank you for loving my brother in the way that
Speaker 1: he needed to be loved is really was necessary. And
Speaker 1: then he says, and I still wish you were a woman,
Speaker 1: and that was funny as shit, and Lestat going yes,
Speaker 1: me too. Sometimes it's very funny. There are some great
Speaker 1: parts of this of this season. It just was not
Speaker 1: my favorite season. And I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: people would think it would be my favorite season because
Speaker 1: I'm a Lestat head, but uh, in terms of both,
Speaker 1: season one was amazing, season two was fine, and season
Speaker 1: three is is good for what it is, but it
Speaker 1: isn't my favorite season. I want to talk about things
Speaker 1: that worked, but like I just said, I'm a stop ahead,
Speaker 1: so let stat really worked for me in this season.
Speaker 1: I love lestatte So I think something that frustrates me
Speaker 1: with the fandom is that, like, these are all monsters,
Speaker 1: they're all vampires. None of them are good. I know
Speaker 1: you guys want Armand to be this cartoonish feeling and
Speaker 1: I'll get to him, but like, none of them are good.
Speaker 1: They're all bad people, and you're like, well, Claudia is
Speaker 1: not as bad. Claudia's bad, guys, real bad. She's a fiend,
Speaker 1: she's a predator, she's real bad. Wait wait a second,
Speaker 1: let me get to her. But like, they're all monsters,
Speaker 1: there's no good people. And Lestat him being French him being.
Speaker 1: I think the guy who plays him Sam he's Australian.
Speaker 1: I think he does a good French accent. But I'm
Speaker 1: not French, so maybe that's why. Maybe that's why I
Speaker 1: think it's maybe someone French like that is horrible. If
Speaker 1: there's no one French listening to this, tell me if
Speaker 1: you think uh Lestat's accents good. I like his frenchness.
Speaker 1: I like his brattiness. He is called the brat Prince
Speaker 1: for a reason. I enjoy his flair for dramatics. He
Speaker 1: is funny and shit. I love that he hoots and hollers.
Speaker 1: Lestat is always yelling. Lestat is always yelling. And if
Speaker 1: you have not seen this show, I know you've seen
Speaker 1: a clip of a white man with blonde hair down
Speaker 1: just kind of his shoulders talking to a black man,
Speaker 1: and a black man's going he did be some dome
Speaker 1: and something like basically he gave me a head and
Speaker 1: it was enough. And the white man starts screaming, I
Speaker 1: heard your hearts, Dante, that that's sad. It's a and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He hoot and holler all the time. He's
Speaker 1: yelling constantly in this season. There is a beautiful, a
Speaker 1: very I don't want to say beautiful. A rich, satisfying
Speaker 1: scene of Louis and the stat coming to each face
Speaker 1: to face with each other again. Louise is now I
Speaker 1: think his name is Tom Pitt, Thomas Pitt, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: with like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. And so he's
Speaker 1: being because you know, vampires can't be the same person forever,
Speaker 1: because people be like, dam I want you to here
Speaker 1: six thousand years ago. And so so he's a rich
Speaker 1: business owner, he's a hotel owner. He's a five hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty of something richest person in the world. And
Speaker 1: Lestatt is now a rock star. Okay, he's the lead
Speaker 1: senior of the Vampire Lestat, which is the group name,
Speaker 1: and his name is La Stat very shad of him.
Speaker 1: So he's destroyed a hotel and now they're having this
Speaker 1: this meeting that Louis called for him to come, and
Speaker 1: they're there with their lawyers and they are like Louis
Speaker 1: is rage baiting him, and Lestat is hooting and fucking hollering,
Speaker 1: and like the stuff he is asking him is like
Speaker 1: a lover's like an ex lover spat and he screams
Speaker 1: in French fuck you. And then and and then he's like,
Speaker 1: are you fucking how many points to Louis represented him
Speaker 1: and he's like, yes, I fucking he's emotionally unavailable. And
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, is that you're compaignon He's like, no,
Speaker 1: he's emotionally unavailable and hot or whatever, and and Louis
Speaker 1: points to Lastat's agent I guess and goes, are you
Speaker 1: fucking her? And Lstat goes yes, Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: Thesat's fucking everybody little sex bisexual, Lestat is having sex
Speaker 1: with everybody, okay, And now because he's bisexual, he's in fact,
Speaker 1: I will characterize him as omnisexual. He is just looking
Speaker 1: for a hole in a little bit of fun. And
Speaker 1: he goes yes. And because she's what does she She's slim,
Speaker 1: petite and can do with modern metropolitan sewer systems. Wish
Speaker 1: they could basically sucking And is such a great scene,
Speaker 1: and yes, the status hooting hollering. I really love Lestatt.
Speaker 1: When I saw the preview for season three, I was
Speaker 1: so excited. I Lovelestat, even though he's like a really
Speaker 1: bad person obviously, but he's fun and even as a
Speaker 1: Lestat person, I will say this, I got so much
Speaker 1: good shit of him when he said serving Kunt has
Speaker 1: its consequences. Jesus, get that tattooed on my fucking forehead.
Speaker 1: He is such a one liner. He's such a cunty
Speaker 1: little thing. He's his singing, his his his movements, his
Speaker 1: he's he's amazing. He's really amazing. But I want to
Speaker 1: say this, it works for me, But I want to
Speaker 1: remind you that Lestat is such a big character. He
Speaker 1: can't be the only character. He's one of those those
Speaker 1: side characters. You just sit this on team all the time.
Speaker 1: You were like, I want to see more of the
Speaker 1: side characters. No, you don't, really, not really, because if
Speaker 1: you did, I don't think you don't think he necessarily like,
Speaker 1: I think you start to hate them. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what's going on with STAT. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people are like, yeah, I love the stats. I
Speaker 1: love the STAT, and then you getting sevenish episodes of
Speaker 1: just the stat or mostly the stat is a little difficult.
Speaker 1: It's it changes things. It's one of those be careful
Speaker 1: what you wish for his things. The other thing I
Speaker 1: really liked about this season is Akasha I. Akasha's monologue
Speaker 1: when she wakes up is so good. I can't even
Speaker 1: I can't even like imitate it. As she's asking all
Speaker 1: these questions about there, they're really questions about existence and
Speaker 1: about a woman's existence in this world, and has she
Speaker 1: like Honestly, this the monologue was very much like somebody
Speaker 1: that's right wrote on Scandal wrote on this. It is
Speaker 1: very much something that Papa Pope would have would have said,
Speaker 1: I am the answer, I have the answer. I can
Speaker 1: say the answer. I am the answer, like I It's
Speaker 1: something you gotta look up the clip. It's so fucking good.
Speaker 1: I was like, so excited for a Kasha, and I'm
Speaker 1: excited for next season. Obviously we know what happens with
Speaker 1: the Kasha, but still I'm excited to see her. And
Speaker 1: someone said, that's why a lustat be hoot and holler,
Speaker 1: and that's why he got the He said, he got
Speaker 1: the boot of a Kasha. She hoot and hollering. He
Speaker 1: hooting and hollering. Yeah, yeah, I really enjoyed her. Okay.
Speaker 1: So another thing I really liked that a lot of
Speaker 1: people didn't is when Claudia's ghost comes back marrek Uh
Speaker 1: Somemon's Claudia's Ghosts and the seance at the Behest of
Speaker 1: Lastat and Louis because they she was their daughter in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways and then became their sister, and
Speaker 1: she and they wanted. You know, Louis has a lot
Speaker 1: of unfinished business. And I think what Stat does too.
Speaker 1: Butist that does not express content, does not express emotions
Speaker 1: the way other people express emotions. If he can't scream
Speaker 1: about it, he's probably not gonna express it. And so
Speaker 1: she comes back and she's angry, and she and everything
Speaker 1: she said was real. Louis, it is Louie's fault she
Speaker 1: is dead. It is Lestat. It is his fault that
Speaker 1: she's dead. Yes, it is. It is their fault. She's
Speaker 1: a vampire to begin with. And so I said, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna talk. I'm gonna talk about the books. In the books,
Speaker 1: the Claudia is five years old. She is a representative
Speaker 1: of Anne, Rice's dead daughter. Her daughter died. She is
Speaker 1: five years old. She's made into a vampire to keep
Speaker 1: Louis there because Louise is gonna leave Lastat. And and
Speaker 1: although he doesn't know everything about being a vampire, he
Speaker 1: can make money. He can do things so the Stat
Speaker 1: can't do. And the whole reason Stat turned him was
Speaker 1: so that he could have his plantation and the money
Speaker 1: in the whole, in the apartments in New Orleans, and
Speaker 1: all the other things he had. That's the whole reason
Speaker 1: he turned him. She's an abomination. That's why one of
Speaker 1: the great laws is you can't turn a child right.
Speaker 1: Her mind will not hold up because what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: is that she gets older and older and older. Her
Speaker 1: body will still be a five year old. She will
Speaker 1: be perceived as a five year old. Her brain will
Speaker 1: advance into adulthood and into old age, into anxiousness as
Speaker 1: her as a five year old. And this is incredibly important.
Speaker 1: And they aged Claudia for the show for obvious reasons.
Speaker 1: I'm talking like behind the scenes reasons. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that happens that I don't think would have
Speaker 1: been palatable for a five year old. Me was impatible
Speaker 1: for somebody being fourteen playing fourteen, but still it definitely
Speaker 1: wouldn't have flown with a five year old. And so
Speaker 1: I get that. But the reason Claudia is so manipulive
Speaker 1: in the books. In the book is because she can't
Speaker 1: exist without a caretaker. And so when she decides the
Speaker 1: stat must go, and that She's plans to murder him
Speaker 1: and that Louis will help her. She needs Louis. She
Speaker 1: cannot go to Europe on her own at five years old.
Speaker 1: She can't be almost anywhere at five years old, okay,
Speaker 1: on her own. She needs an adult with her, someone
Speaker 1: seems an adult to care for her. She thinks of
Speaker 1: Louis as lesser than her, as a little bitch baby,
Speaker 1: as a as a slave in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: And that's how And even even as the as the
Speaker 1: Paris come and finds them, they are perturbed. They're like
Speaker 1: confused by what's happening because there's two vampires and one's
Speaker 1: not a slave to the other, because they they do
Speaker 1: act as like you know, as companions, as as brother
Speaker 1: and sister. But that's not how Claudia saw Louis. And
Speaker 1: when first of all, the Delaney portraying Claudia's ghost, because
Speaker 1: when they kill Claudia, they snap her what is this
Speaker 1: the Achilles heels they snap cause they so she can't
Speaker 1: run away, So she's bleeding and from her heels and
Speaker 1: she can barely walk and she was burnt. Like just
Speaker 1: saying that, I was like, oh am I watching horror.
Speaker 1: I was like is this is this? Is this? The graduate?
Speaker 1: Am I watching? It? Was? It was? The visual of
Speaker 1: it was so good. So when she comes back and
Speaker 1: she says, I hate you, why stop saying my fucking name? Stop?
Speaker 1: When she talks about Louis carrying her diaries around, reading
Speaker 1: them to people, preserving them, making them into this book.
Speaker 1: He killed her attacker, the one that sexually assaulted her
Speaker 1: and physically assaulted her over and over and over again
Speaker 1: and kept I mean, honestly, I think it was a
Speaker 1: week a week in vampire time, and he like broke
Speaker 1: her legs, in her arms and like like and so
Speaker 1: she would kill b like he. Louis ends up killing
Speaker 1: that guy. Lu louis kind of a rambo in the
Speaker 1: in the shows, like he's he does a lot. He's
Speaker 1: blowing people up, cut people's hands off, and he says,
Speaker 1: what about the thing I did for you? And she
Speaker 1: is like, what the fuck? You know? Basically, you went
Speaker 1: and killed the person that hurt me. You read him
Speaker 1: my diaries. You think that makes up for the fact
Speaker 1: that you killed me, Cause he did it like he
Speaker 1: chose armand over her in Paris, and that's why they
Speaker 1: were able to be ambushed and killed well she was,
Speaker 1: and Lestat only saved her, saved him, And the way
Speaker 1: it always played out to mean is that Lestat could
Speaker 1: only save her him. But anyway, she comes back. She
Speaker 1: gives him about hating them, about how she talks about
Speaker 1: how she manipulated Louis she did, and how she told
Speaker 1: a lie about like she said, I ginned up this
Speaker 1: story for the slave. Claudia was supposed to leave. And
Speaker 1: then in the story that Louis tells us from her diaries,
Speaker 1: Lestat prevents her from going and says that worst things
Speaker 1: can happen to her. What if the thing that happened
Speaker 1: her when she went off on her own, the sexual
Speaker 1: assault in the and the captivity, happen to her again.
Speaker 1: People always took that as him threatening to rape her.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, he was saying, oh, you finally
Speaker 1: met someone. Some of the other vampires there aren't when
Speaker 1: she thought they were. What if something like that would
Speaker 1: happen again? I don't think he threatened to rape her.
Speaker 1: But Claudia's ghosts admits that she made that up, not
Speaker 1: all of it. She made it a little. She made
Speaker 1: it worse than it was, and that she could have
Speaker 1: killed Louis and taken the stat but Louis was a slave.
Speaker 1: She callt him nappyheaded. She she didn't call him the
Speaker 1: N word, but she definitely called him a slave and
Speaker 1: various other things. And basically she ends it with stop
Speaker 1: saying my motherfucking name, stop saying my name. I hate you.
Speaker 1: I hate you, basically, And you know, I've I enjoyed
Speaker 1: that scene. And a lot of people were like, that
Speaker 1: wasn't really her because the marrick I guess this happens,
Speaker 1: and Marrek explains that that spirits are far more evil,
Speaker 1: are far more angry when you pull whatever. I don't think,
Speaker 1: so it's not how the actors are portraying talking about it.
Speaker 1: They're talking about Claudia finally gets a chance to speak,
Speaker 1: because remember, all iterations we've seen of Claudia are things
Speaker 1: that she wrote in her diary and interpretations by Louis.
Speaker 1: This is Claudia's only This is claud This is Claudia
Speaker 1: as we see her. This is the only time we
Speaker 1: see Claudia speaking for herself. Maybe it's a stat speaking
Speaker 1: for Claudia, we don't know, but I believe it. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, well, why would she
Speaker 1: say that why'd she called the slave. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people do not realize. In season one, when
Speaker 1: Bailey is playing Claudia, how she used to do that
Speaker 1: all the time. She'd be like, she call the stat Massa,
Speaker 1: and she'd be like, Massa taught me how to play chess,
Speaker 1: but only to amuse him himself. And like, as she's
Speaker 1: losing the chest to the stat, she would say she
Speaker 1: would talk to him like, oh, no, Massa's gonna get
Speaker 1: mad like that, And I was like, yeah, like she
Speaker 1: was already doing this. And absolutely she would have called
Speaker 1: Louis nappy headed. Yes she would, but you guys only
Speaker 1: think that she had this deep affection for Louis through
Speaker 1: Louise eyes. And it makes I hate saying this, but
Speaker 1: it makes more sense when you understand who Claudia actually
Speaker 1: was why she would say this. Now there is a
Speaker 1: conversation about whether or not there are black people the
Speaker 1: writer's room when this was written, and whether or not
Speaker 1: it's just a bunch of white people doing living out
Speaker 1: their anti blackness. That's not a conversation I'm ready to have.
Speaker 1: I actually don't know who's in the writer's room, and like,
Speaker 1: I think I need more information to have that conversation.
Speaker 1: I am reminded of and mostly white writer's room writing
Speaker 1: Tasty on Oranges New Black talking about you can't like
Speaker 1: stop blaming stuff on being black or whatever, like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I was like, Okay, well who
Speaker 1: wrote that? And why you know? And even if it
Speaker 1: was a black person that wrote, what are y'all doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing here? So I do understand people
Speaker 1: feeling that way, But this idea that Claudia would not
Speaker 1: say that, Yes, she fucking would. Yes, she would go back,
Speaker 1: go back. It's obvious she hated Louis all in her diary.
Speaker 1: She called him dead weight. She was just she was
Speaker 1: about to leave him. She was waiting. She'd found Madeleine,
Speaker 1: who was her lover and and and would take the
Speaker 1: place of Louis in terms of being someone Again fourteen
Speaker 1: is different than five, but take the place of someone,
Speaker 1: being someone that that could keep her safe while she
Speaker 1: while while she was walking this world as a child.
Speaker 1: And yeah, like and she was leaving him, she was
Speaker 1: leaving him to armand and Louis saw that as one way,
Speaker 1: and I think Claudia saw it a different way. And
Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, he is dead weight. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: moving on. If you don't believe that Claudia would say
Speaker 1: those things, go back and watch the the first two
Speaker 1: seasons of the show. Yes she would. She was incredibly angry.
Speaker 1: Her last words or one of some of her last
Speaker 1: Claudia was killing people and writing their last words in
Speaker 1: her in her diary, she she killed many people more
Speaker 1: than she was like Lastate. She liked to play with
Speaker 1: her food. She liked to to be dramatic about it. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Louis sk skulking in the alley eating rats cause he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to kill people, and Claudia also thought that
Speaker 1: was bitch babyish of him, just like Lestat did. But
Speaker 1: she records Lestat's last words in his own blood. She
Speaker 1: writes it with his own blood. She I, I like,
Speaker 1: I don't. I really think people enjoy the actresses they
Speaker 1: enjoyed and and I think the fact that she was
Speaker 1: sexually assaulted really have people having a lot of empathy
Speaker 1: for her. And I saw a creator today say that
Speaker 1: that's part of the problem, is that, like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'll talk about. We'll get to herman. We'll get
Speaker 1: to herman soon. The other thing I really liked about
Speaker 1: this is I liked Leastat and louis one of the things.
Speaker 1: I think that some people are really disappointed with the
Speaker 1: season finale and some people are really are really in
Speaker 1: love with it. Are there are two types of watching
Speaker 1: this show. There are people who who are watching this
Speaker 1: show for the complicated, dysfunctional relationships between monsters, and there
Speaker 1: are other people who are like, oh, look, they're pulling
Speaker 1: blood into a glass and drinking it personally whenever they
Speaker 1: have blood all over their face, I'm like, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: let's do another monologue about loneliness. But I think that
Speaker 1: the people who really enjoy the vampire part of it,
Speaker 1: the Tallamasca, Like I could give a fuck about the
Speaker 1: Talamasca guys, But people who love that part, yeah, they
Speaker 1: were like, this is such a good But I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people miss some stuff at the end,
Speaker 1: and or maybe it's the other way around. Who knows.
Speaker 1: But Las Staton Louise relationship has always been the tenth
Speaker 1: poll of this series, not the not the entire universe,
Speaker 1: like the books and stuff like that, but this series,
Speaker 1: it's really about two people in love and the things
Speaker 1: that keep them getting, things that keep them apart. And
Speaker 1: we have seen them throughout season one and two, deeply
Speaker 1: in love, fucking like animals, and toxic in every part
Speaker 1: of a toxic relationship, fights, the makeups, blah blah. We've
Speaker 1: seen Louis being overwhelmed by Lastatt. We've seen Louis helping
Speaker 1: Claudia kill Lstat and his regret for it, and him
Speaker 1: hallucinating the Stat over and over again while he's in Paris,
Speaker 1: and he hooks up with what he doesn't know is
Speaker 1: a lover of Lstats and also just as evil. But
Speaker 1: we didn't get very much of the two of them
Speaker 1: just having a couple talks and banterns stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And we got a little bit of the season when
Speaker 1: Lastat basically saves Louis from the Claudia personator and just
Speaker 1: them sitting in the car talking was such a great
Speaker 1: scene to see. It's episode six. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: we didn't see this. We didn't get to see them
Speaker 1: like this. And I think part of the way reason
Speaker 1: people misunderstand Claudia and Louise relationship is that we did
Speaker 1: get to see Claudia and Louis living like this, like
Speaker 1: when she's nursing him back to health and they're just
Speaker 1: talking and and he's throwing like cars in a hat.
Speaker 1: That little montage there is such a like a beautiful
Speaker 1: representation of the relationship. The people think that's all their
Speaker 1: relationship was. But I love that we got some of
Speaker 1: it in this season. I love that at the very
Speaker 1: in the last episode, when Lestat's head's been put back
Speaker 1: on his body. This is such a fucking weird like
Speaker 1: it was a lot it see episode six ends with
Speaker 1: them getting their heads cut off, and then the series finale,
Speaker 1: the season finale is episode seven, and at the end
Speaker 1: of episode seven, their heads are back on and we're
Speaker 1: still at the exact same place at the end of
Speaker 1: episode six, should I do the concert or not? And
Speaker 1: that's why a lot of people were mad at episode seven,
Speaker 1: because it really felt like how I met your mother
Speaker 1: at the end, he took me through all this shit
Speaker 1: just so we could be right here. We went ring
Speaker 1: around the Rosie, up and down the fucking hill, only
Speaker 1: the end of back where we started. That's what the
Speaker 1: problem is with episode seven, And I do not disagree
Speaker 1: with that. I just I also think a lot of
Speaker 1: people just wanted more like seven episodes. It's not enough.
Speaker 1: It's not enough. So yeah, I really enjoyed that part
Speaker 1: of this when he when he wakes up in his
Speaker 1: heads back on and it comes out of the coffin
Speaker 1: and he and he's talking to everyone and then he
Speaker 1: goes he was looking for one person. It was Louis
Speaker 1: and he runs over and they trace each other's neck
Speaker 1: where the heads were put back on, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: more that, Like when Louis got back together with him Matthew,
Speaker 1: he threw him down into the from the from the
Speaker 1: space maybe not outer space, inner space is like down
Speaker 1: and he kept showing up with like cars and stuff,
Speaker 1: and and you know, Claudia was so angry about it,
Speaker 1: and slowly but surely he got back. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: I like that this season. I hope I see more
Speaker 1: of that next season. All right, let's talk about some
Speaker 1: things that didn't work for me. Gabriella. Gabriella is a
Speaker 1: Stat's mama and he been fucking her. And it turns
Speaker 1: out because that beautiful scene that I said we got
Speaker 1: with LEASTT and Louis happens right before he finds out
Speaker 1: he's been fucking his mom, and it turns out like
Speaker 1: I assume they only been fucking. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was in the book. If it was in the book,
Speaker 1: I missed it. I forgot about it, and I can't
Speaker 1: then I really forget about Gabrielle stat fucking his mom
Speaker 1: in the book. I feel like that's something I would
Speaker 1: have taken away. But in this scene where they're arguing,
Speaker 1: we find out not only is the stat fucking his mom,
Speaker 1: which you've been known, but it didn't happen after it
Speaker 1: became vampires. They had sex before she died and it
Speaker 1: became vampires. Bruh. I didn't like it. I didn't like
Speaker 1: her wig. I hate her. That wig is horrible. And
Speaker 1: also vampires can't their hair doesn't keep growing right, And
Speaker 1: so when Gabriella died, her hair was like in a
Speaker 1: long gray beard, I mean gray braive. She cut her
Speaker 1: hair every morning, well every night when she got the coffee,
Speaker 1: and she gave herself little bob. That's crazy. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like that character was just very annoying. I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't incestuous enough to be like believe. It just
Speaker 1: felt she just felt like a cartoon character. You know,
Speaker 1: you want to go see some ancestral shit, some ancestrious
Speaker 1: shit that like you believe, go watch Sleepwalkers. I think
Speaker 1: it's called it's a it's an a. It's a movie
Speaker 1: adapted from Stephen King. It's about I guess it's still
Speaker 1: people's souls. They're like monster cats that still people's souls.
Speaker 1: It's got Madelein Stowe Brian Cross and like she's his
Speaker 1: mother and she's and he's the son, and he's like
Speaker 1: he goes to high school to steal like the souls
Speaker 1: of virgins or whatever. And there's a scene where and
Speaker 1: he doesn't get it. He like the girl he chooses,
Speaker 1: she gets away. What is her name? I forget the
Speaker 1: name of the actress. And there's a scene where Madeleine
Speaker 1: Stowe is like he's supposed to go out and get
Speaker 1: the soul and he comes back and she's like trying
Speaker 1: to get it from like suck it out of him,
Speaker 1: like she's kissing him and stuff, and she's like, you
Speaker 1: didn't get it. And just that little scene where he's like,
Speaker 1: I will get it, and it's so much more believable
Speaker 1: than whatever the fuck Gabriella and Lestat are doing. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't believe this. And then when she's
Speaker 1: having sex loudly with his standing like I don't know,
Speaker 1: she is jealous, she is a stage mom and she
Speaker 1: is fucking him. But it didn't work for me. The
Speaker 1: this show isn't black enough now interview with the Vampire
Speaker 1: was black as fuck. Black as fuck. It starts off
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, where Louise is the man of his family.
Speaker 1: His father's dead. They run uh, houses of ill repute.
Speaker 1: Uh they run women and cards, and his family lives
Speaker 1: in this beautiful house that, like, you know, they used
Speaker 1: to they used to have a plant not a plantation,
Speaker 1: but they used to have a farm. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess what wouldn't call it a plantation. The black people
Speaker 1: owned it, but they used to work in agriculture and
Speaker 1: that didn't work. And so he started, you know, running
Speaker 1: houses of irrepute repute. And it starts there in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and louis black as fuck and Lestatt is there
Speaker 1: and they argue. Like part of what happens is as
Speaker 1: they first get together. Let Statt loves to go to
Speaker 1: the he loves to go to to to the to
Speaker 1: the symphony, and Louis has to pretend to be his
Speaker 1: servant to get in there. Part of what happens, part
Speaker 1: of the reason Claudia is in that fire that Louis
Speaker 1: takes her out of, that Lestat turns her from for
Speaker 1: Louis is because of a fucking hate crime. Their blackness
Speaker 1: is really important to the story. Their blackness is they
Speaker 1: go to Europe to find the old vampires and eventually
Speaker 1: end up in Paris is important to the story. It's important, Like,
Speaker 1: and so this was a black at fuck show. They
Speaker 1: got real white in season three and I'm you know,
Speaker 1: you're hearing chatter online when it's coming on, when it's
Speaker 1: when it's starting, people being like, oh, you don't need
Speaker 1: to watch the first two seasons. You just need to
Speaker 1: watch this. No, you do. And the reason you think
Speaker 1: you don't is because you think it's a different story
Speaker 1: and it's not. It reminds me of people who will
Speaker 1: be like a watch all the Housewives extupf Atlanta, Pat,
Speaker 1: why is that baby quickly? Why is that? I don't know,
Speaker 1: It's just something about it, And it felt like it
Speaker 1: felt like a real black show, and then it wasn't.
Speaker 1: And this is come from someone who loves the stat
Speaker 1: who loves to watch the stack acting like a cunt.
Speaker 1: I love it, and and I still was like, this
Speaker 1: is not this is not the same. It feels very different.
Speaker 1: I already said it's too much vampire. It's fine. Like
Speaker 1: when they're like killing people and there's blood all their
Speaker 1: faces and stuff, and they're like drinking blood from goblets
Speaker 1: and shit, I'm like, okay, fine, fine, fine, fine. Now
Speaker 1: can't we explore the relationship between your fledgling daughter sister
Speaker 1: infunk death when the stack goes brother cauz sister, I
Speaker 1: am your maker. When we go back to the stock
Speaker 1: hoot and hollering, please, I don't want to see him
Speaker 1: jump out of tree. I don't want But that's me obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm a weird though. I also felt like there was
Speaker 1: too much singing. I listen, I like Lestatt's music. That's
Speaker 1: because I'm a fan of bad music. Oh somebody some
Speaker 1: people were talking about, like, okay, let me finish my thought.
Speaker 1: So I am a person that if someone makes up
Speaker 1: a song for a TV show that's supposed to not
Speaker 1: be good, I will always like it. Always. What's that?
Speaker 1: What's the fuck? What is that show that's got Sarah
Speaker 1: Barilla's on it and it's like five Ever? I think
Speaker 1: it's I think that said Sarah Brella's five Ever Girls,
Speaker 1: five Ever. I love every song they fucking did, every
Speaker 1: fucking song. I love that shiit? What's this? There's another
Speaker 1: that used to be on MTV a long time ago,
Speaker 1: when MTV used to do original movies. Say it don't spread.
Speaker 1: I want the news, not the weather, the bab not
Speaker 1: the weather. What is that? Together? That love? Though I
Speaker 1: loved all their songs, of all their songs, I I
Speaker 1: always talk about, uh the beats from Doug Killer Tofu
Speaker 1: I need more allowance, shouter your lungs out. I love
Speaker 1: all the fucking songs. If you make up a song
Speaker 1: for a TV show, I will love it. I I
Speaker 1: will find it so good. And does that mean is
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Does it means good? No, it
Speaker 1: means I have horrible taste, horrible, horrible taste. So, but
Speaker 1: here's the thing about Lastat's mus Las stats music. It's
Speaker 1: not supposed to be good, and Universe is not good.
Speaker 1: In fact, he doesn't sell he wants he sell like
Speaker 1: three copies. He's really bad. He's self funding the tour
Speaker 1: all that shit. But and I heard someone being like, well,
Speaker 1: why didn't they make the songs bad? Because it's hard
Speaker 1: to make bad songs. When I was like a religious
Speaker 1: Watcher of drag Race every year when they would do
Speaker 1: their their acting challenge, so people would be convinced that
Speaker 1: the writers of Rue Paul would purposely write a really
Speaker 1: bad act of really bad script. They're like, they're for
Speaker 1: they're purposely writing bad scripts just so the so the
Speaker 1: the queens will mess up. No, they aren't. It's really
Speaker 1: hard when you are a professional to purposely write a
Speaker 1: bad script. The reasonless that songs are kind of catchy
Speaker 1: is because professionals, professionals wrote it. Now, people write bad
Speaker 1: shit all the time, but to purposely write something bad,
Speaker 1: it's like when you are I forgot who it was.
Speaker 1: I might have an Ariana ground who was trying to act,
Speaker 1: but she was trying to sing badly. It's really hard.
Speaker 1: It's really fucking hard for her to sing badly. And
Speaker 1: there is no way that the people sat down like
Speaker 1: they knew they were gonna write songs that were not
Speaker 1: They knew Lestat cannot make art same the same way
Speaker 1: Louie couldn't take those pictures. They don't have soul pre
Speaker 1: too like their ai. They can't. They don't have the
Speaker 1: soul to make art. But they sat down knowing those
Speaker 1: songs weren't supposed to be good. And did they polish
Speaker 1: them No? Did they send it through eighty five rewrites? No?
Speaker 1: But it's really hard to make a purposely bad song
Speaker 1: when you're a professional that makes good songs. It's really
Speaker 1: hard to write a bad script on purpose. People write
Speaker 1: bad scripts all the time. Professionals write bad scripts and
Speaker 1: bad songs all the time. But it's really hard to
Speaker 1: stand and be like, Okay, so if I was gonna
Speaker 1: make a bad script, what would it say? It's really
Speaker 1: hard what it's likely happening. Especially in RuPaul's Ruggers. They're
Speaker 1: just not trying that hard. It's not a lot of
Speaker 1: editing they're they're they're getting like thirty minutes to write script.
Speaker 1: That's probably what's happening. They're not purposely writing them badly.
Speaker 1: It's just not It's hard to explain. But I hope
Speaker 1: that you get mind just this. It's that's why we
Speaker 1: like the Stats songs, because the professional wrote them. And
Speaker 1: and even if they could be better, it's hard when
Speaker 1: first of all, Sam Reid's singing them to you with
Speaker 1: his gorgeous body, okay, and his and his movements and
Speaker 1: his and and and I don't know Sam Reid when
Speaker 1: he is. People keep saying they believe Sam sam Reid
Speaker 1: is actually a stot pretending to be a stock. Maybe maybe,
Speaker 1: but it's really hard when he's singing them and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they aren't good because they didn't work to make them good.
Speaker 1: But it's really hard to write something that's really really
Speaker 1: bad on purpose. You can only write the worst shit
Speaker 1: when you think it's gonna be good. Oh, Armand the
Speaker 1: cartoon evil. I didn't like him very much either, So Armand,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I told you stop talking about the books.
Speaker 1: I want to do. What to talk about the books Armand?
Speaker 1: In the books is it's very clear why he did
Speaker 1: what he did. Okay, he did what he did in Paris,
Speaker 1: although it's not the same storyline right cause because Armand
Speaker 1: is in love with was in love with the Statt,
Speaker 1: who was in love with l And, and they're they're
Speaker 1: both in love with l Armand and Louis were both
Speaker 1: in love with the stat and then they fall in
Speaker 1: love together, and it turns out it's based all the
Speaker 1: lie from Armand And. In the books, Armand believes he's
Speaker 1: a believer in the Five Laws, the Five Great Laws.
Speaker 1: He's a believer that Claudia is an abomination as a
Speaker 1: five year old vampire, and that he is doing her
Speaker 1: a favor by killing her, that she is, that allowing
Speaker 1: her to exist is the abomination. Killing her is the kindness,
Speaker 1: like the s The reason he wanted to kill Claudia
Speaker 1: is it's quite obvious and it's and like they said,
Speaker 1: villains don't ever think that the villain. They think that
Speaker 1: the hero in the story. What did what did? Uh? How?
Speaker 1: He say on? I guess she might've been on Jimmy
Speaker 1: Fowler's night show. I don't remember. She was on some
Speaker 1: talk sh some nighttime talk show, some late night talk show,
Speaker 1: and she said, yeah, but it's Lauren's show. If it
Speaker 1: were my show, it'd be all about how crazy Lauren
Speaker 1: is and how she's trying to break me and my
Speaker 1: boyfriend up. And I was like, yes, exactly exactly, because
Speaker 1: the villain doesn't know that a villain and so armand
Speaker 1: doesn't know he's the villain. But him being so cartoonish,
Speaker 1: him showing up in season three, not that it wasn't like,
Speaker 1: not that it was off the source material, but him
Speaker 1: showing up in season three and the stuff with Daniel
Speaker 1: and saying he was in love with him and showing
Speaker 1: up to make his Armends so stupid and like he
Speaker 1: was so dastardly him plotting to kill Claudia and he
Speaker 1: was gonna kill Louis too, and then only to steal
Speaker 1: the act that of loveless stat did and to lie
Speaker 1: about it for seventy seven years while they were while
Speaker 1: they were in a relationship. This is so crazy. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Louis killed everyone that Gota told him otherwise,
Speaker 1: So it's partly Louis fault. Okay, well, Smitge just a
Speaker 1: Smitch's fault. But like ourman, being this cartoonish villain is
Speaker 1: so hard for me because you know, right now we're
Speaker 1: post the last episode, we're just a day post the
Speaker 1: last episode, and everyone's like that Armand he's a grandline,
Speaker 1: he's this, he's a that, And yet they are giving
Speaker 1: Claudia the empathetic edit even Louis to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: Lestat gets a lot of empathy in this last episode.
Speaker 1: Armand was sold into slavery to a ship captain. He
Speaker 1: was twelve years old. He thought he was going to work.
Speaker 1: His family sold him into slavery. He was then sold
Speaker 1: again to as a sex slave to a man that
Speaker 1: used him and that allowed his friends to use him.
Speaker 1: He was turned into a vampire at seventeen years old,
Speaker 1: and he's older than all of them. Maybe not, he's
Speaker 1: not as old Zacasha, obviously, but he's older than all
Speaker 1: of the rest of them. He's ancient, and he has
Speaker 1: seen and done he he's seen it all. And for
Speaker 1: this the very last episode, for them to turn him
Speaker 1: into this I don't know this, this blathering like comical
Speaker 1: villain that is once that's got Louise's head on a
Speaker 1: stick and wants him to apolog They had to apologize
Speaker 1: this and the that it goes back to what I said.
Speaker 1: They're all monsters, every single one of them. They're all monsters,
Speaker 1: and so there are there are sad things to be
Speaker 1: said by all and even Gabriella, who I do not like.
Speaker 1: But Gabriella is was a woman that was married to
Speaker 1: a uh what's a lord or lady or she he
Speaker 1: was a lord or was he a duke? He was
Speaker 1: a marquis I think uh Lestat's father, and she was
Speaker 1: forced to go live in the French countryside with a
Speaker 1: man who cu who I think couldn't even read and
Speaker 1: and give birth after birth after birth to these ch chilled,
Speaker 1: these horrible children. She only really cared for the stat
Speaker 1: and she sees Lestat is who she could have been,
Speaker 1: and she had been a man. She sees the stat
Speaker 1: is who she could have been, which is part of
Speaker 1: the reason she's such a stage mommy and wants him
Speaker 1: to do all these different things. And her her life.
Speaker 1: She was a beautiful girl from a from a rich
Speaker 1: family that was sold as women were in that time,
Speaker 1: sold for marriage and babies and the strengthened lines and
Speaker 1: for money and all that. And there she was wasting
Speaker 1: away her intelligence, her beauty, everything she had that she
Speaker 1: couldn't use cause she was a woman. She had this
Speaker 1: son who she adored, and she had a lot of
Speaker 1: sons she didn't like to the son who she adored,
Speaker 1: and she wished she could walk in the wood. That's
Speaker 1: why she's like that with with the stat she owns
Speaker 1: the stat. Lestat is her avatar for this world. And
Speaker 1: so you can find some empathy there. There is not one.
Speaker 1: I can't think of a vampire there. I couldn't find
Speaker 1: everything for her. But they're all monsters. In the end
Speaker 1: of the day, guys and them showed them having armand
Speaker 1: show up and cut people's heads off and try to
Speaker 1: sew it on another. Most of this stuff, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But when you juxtapose that with the last thing that
Speaker 1: we saw of Louis and Lestat coming to terms with
Speaker 1: that they are the villains in Claudia's story, that Claudia
Speaker 1: hates them and may have always hated them, well, at
Speaker 1: least for the last fifty years or so, I hated them,
Speaker 1: and give or take twenty years, I don't know how
Speaker 1: long she was alone hated them and that she had
Speaker 1: every right to and that they would be the villains
Speaker 1: in her story, and that yes, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: love that they had for her, but the way she
Speaker 1: came into being a vampire was done out of selfishness,
Speaker 1: and that it should have never happened. They were coming
Speaker 1: to terms with that. They were talking about going to therapy.
Speaker 1: It's very funny. They were coming to terms that a
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't like that. They thought that that
Speaker 1: was like a very flippant footnote for Claudia. But I
Speaker 1: don't know that's how I felt. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you are the villain in some people's stories and sometimes
Speaker 1: rightfully fucking so. And Claudia's gone, and she's been gone.
Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty five, and she died in Gosh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like I don't know what year that was
Speaker 1: supposed to be in Paris. I could be I feel
Speaker 1: like he met Louis in nineteen ten. It's after the
Speaker 1: Great Depression when they go to Europe. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe nineteen thirties. I don't know. It's twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. That's how long fucking Claudia's been gone. And yeah,
Speaker 1: like they're coming to this realization and they were also
Speaker 1: it also had a fight where you know, Louis was like,
Speaker 1: I can I believe you been fucking your mother. You
Speaker 1: don't come in the door you came out of and
Speaker 1: and and lest that's like, you know, I I came
Speaker 1: to you when we were having disillusions about Claudia. I
Speaker 1: I welcomed you into my home. I cared for you
Speaker 1: when I am. And he's and basically that he is
Speaker 1: like breaking down into nothing, and Louis is ready to
Speaker 1: Is is ready to throw him away over something like that.
Speaker 1: They are monsters, they are not bound by human connections.
Speaker 1: Although and this happened before, This happened before. But why
Speaker 1: isn't the stat a victim of being groomed by his mother?
Speaker 1: There can be there can be no equal power in
Speaker 1: a mother son relationship. But Claudia was assaulted armand was
Speaker 1: assaulted over and was sold into sexual slavery. Why because
Speaker 1: we didn't see it. You only heard about it armand
Speaker 1: talking talking about how he came to be a vampire.
Speaker 1: Him not even can't even remember his own name because
Speaker 1: it changed, right, it changed when he was sold in
Speaker 1: like that was such a poignant bit of dialogue as
Speaker 1: he gave it little monologue with the crazy eyes and
Speaker 1: stuff with the cgi eyes or whatever they're doing. Are
Speaker 1: those are those contexts I think there are done in post.
Speaker 1: You can't have you can't feel for him when Louis
Speaker 1: apologizes to him, which it might be true or not,
Speaker 1: because I mean, you did have his head on like
Speaker 1: a stick and was demanding an apology, so we don't
Speaker 1: so we actually don't know how true that apology is.
Speaker 1: When lou Louis said, you deserved to be loved. I
Speaker 1: couldn't do it for you. You deserved to be loved
Speaker 1: and you never got it like I wanted to cry
Speaker 1: because he's right. Armand's many things, but imagine being an
Speaker 1: ancient fucking monster that has walked this earth, that walked
Speaker 1: this earth as a human in pain and suffering, and
Speaker 1: then they turned you. Almost none of them asks to
Speaker 1: be turned, if you think about it. Louis eventually asked
Speaker 1: for it, but Lestat stalks him. Uh, punches through a priest,
Speaker 1: blows up a church. There's all kinds of fucking shit.
Speaker 1: Lestat was kidnapped and fed on for a week and
Speaker 1: forced himTo being a vampire. Magnus's maker asked him, offered
Speaker 1: it to him. He said no, no, no, no, and
Speaker 1: he made him a vampire anyway. Claudia had no saying
Speaker 1: whether she's gonna become a vampire. I don't think Armand
Speaker 1: did either. Lestatt turned his mother, uh Gabriella into a
Speaker 1: vampire when she was dying. I wanna say, if tuberculosis,
Speaker 1: She's died of something, one of those diseases where people
Speaker 1: would like waste away the s up something like that. Uh,
Speaker 1: he burst in. This isn't how it happens, but he
Speaker 1: burst in and like runs past his brothers and father
Speaker 1: and and just goes in there and turns her. Daniel
Speaker 1: was turned against his will by armand uh, they called
Speaker 1: the gift. But none of them, none of them are
Speaker 1: living like it's a gift. They're all tragic in their ways,
Speaker 1: in their own ways. And but people have all this empathy.
Speaker 1: And I think it's because Claudia's younger. She's a black woman,
Speaker 1: and many of us can put ourselves in the shoes
Speaker 1: of her being violated in that way. But it's so
Speaker 1: interesting her mind doesn't get that armand chose the WII
Speaker 1: over his coven. At one point, he should have killed
Speaker 1: Louis immediately, and he didn't. He loses his status in
Speaker 1: his coven. He's in love with Louis, even though from
Speaker 1: the first moment he read, he could read his mind.
Speaker 1: He could tell he was lying that he had killed
Speaker 1: lastat that all these well, he thought he killed latat
Speaker 1: all these things, and yet he was drawn by love
Speaker 1: to him and they were to get to seventy seven years.
Speaker 1: It was all a lie. It was all built on
Speaker 1: a lie. I don't know. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was all a lie, but it was built on a lie.
Speaker 1: And also, if you can go back to season two,
Speaker 1: I want you to notice that Armand put the books
Speaker 1: on the ceiling in the room at they're in. They
Speaker 1: have all these diaries of Claudia and all these books
Speaker 1: and things and kind of like an archive of stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's the way it's done. It's it's in Dubai.
Speaker 1: It's one of those like modern art type things, spaces,
Speaker 1: modern design faces. And the way the bookshelves are is
Speaker 1: they're on the ceiling. And I remember was it last year?
Speaker 1: I feel like it was two years ago, a year
Speaker 1: and a half. When I was watching it, I saw
Speaker 1: TikTok where someone was like explained that Armand can fly,
Speaker 1: Armand can go out in the daylight. That's how that's
Speaker 1: how old he is. Okay, Armand can do things that
Speaker 1: Louis can't do because louis not old enough and didn't
Speaker 1: get certain blood and stuff like our uh, Louis eventually
Speaker 1: developed certain things, but our mom can fly and Louie can't.
Speaker 1: And that Urmand put the books on the ceiling because
Speaker 1: Louie couldn't reach them. There there's a million little things
Speaker 1: like that that our little manipulations and tricks, different things
Speaker 1: that Armand did within that relationship, toxic and just things
Speaker 1: he like. He was deeply in love Louis, but he
Speaker 1: also hated Louis in a certain way. So interesting. All
Speaker 1: these people are in love but hate each other at
Speaker 1: the same time. I guess the only people don't hate
Speaker 1: each other are Madeline and Claudia. But Madeleine's dead. And
Speaker 1: when Claudia said that, why isn't Madalin, When when she
Speaker 1: brought her back as a ghost, why isn't Madeleine here?
Speaker 1: I roam like she's basically she's wandering in the afterlife.
Speaker 1: She's not in hell. Maybe she is in hell, maybe
Speaker 1: that's her version of hell. But her where she is
Speaker 1: is she's just wandering and she can't find Madeleine, the
Speaker 1: one bit of real love that loved her back she
Speaker 1: had in this world. Oh my god, Madelein died in
Speaker 1: her arms. They gave Madeleine the opportunity to join the
Speaker 1: coven or, to die with Claudia, and she chose to die,
Speaker 1: and Madelon died in her arms, and then she died.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Claudia was no like. I don't
Speaker 1: know what y'all thought Claudia was gonna say when she
Speaker 1: ain't back. The last one of the last things she says,
Speaker 1: is she's out because you know they're doing all this
Speaker 1: on the stage. That's what they would do every night.
Speaker 1: They would kill people on stage at the at the theater,
Speaker 1: the vampire and van Fier whatever, how are you pronouncing
Speaker 1: the French? And so this night they're having a trial,
Speaker 1: it's one night only having a trial, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: kill Louis and Claudia. And right before they kill kill Claudia,
Speaker 1: she asked for one last uh like one last request.
Speaker 1: And her request is at the guy in the back
Speaker 1: take his hat off because she wants to see his face.
Speaker 1: And she says, now I've seen all your faces, and
Speaker 1: if there's an afrolete, I'm gonna come back and kill
Speaker 1: all of you. And if there's not a find a
Speaker 1: way to do it anyway, like those are her those
Speaker 1: that's her last words to the judge and juries. I'm
Speaker 1: going to come back and kill all of you. And
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what you guys think. What
Speaker 1: Claudia was, I don't know anyway. So what do I
Speaker 1: want to see? Neat? Oh? So I don't think Armand
Speaker 1: works as a cartoonishly evil villain. I think it's scarier
Speaker 1: when people are both the villain and the victim. I
Speaker 1: think they're all the villain in somebody's story, each other's
Speaker 1: story often, and yet they're all the victims. They're all
Speaker 1: they all deserve empathy, they all there, they all deserve
Speaker 1: a bit of softness, a redemption, and for them to
Speaker 1: like just be like, all right, let's just cut it off.
Speaker 1: Armand's crazy, dude. Yeah, Like I was like, that's lazy.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. At least wrap it up. What
Speaker 1: I want to see for season four. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be The Vampire Lesstat Part two or
Speaker 1: The Queen of the Damned. I don't know. I'm fine
Speaker 1: with either of those things. I don't want a two
Speaker 1: your weight. I don't want to your weight. I understand
Speaker 1: there's quite a bit of special effects that go on this.
Speaker 1: This is not why we're getting to your weight. It's
Speaker 1: because it's AMC. It's because people are now like being like, oh,
Speaker 1: you you need to wait for greatness. Sure, I'm willing
Speaker 1: to wait. I'm willing to deal with seven and eight episodes,
Speaker 1: seven eight episode seasons. I don't think I should have
Speaker 1: seven and eight episode seasons and two years wait it's
Speaker 1: one of the other, okay, and the show was good.
Speaker 1: I want it more. Like I said, a lot of
Speaker 1: people disappointed when the way this season ended. I was
Speaker 1: disappointed because I want it more, not because I thought
Speaker 1: it went it didn't, not because I thought it was bad.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the bad songs. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: listat like wiggling his way up and down the catwalk.
Speaker 1: I loved all of it. But I needed more, and
Speaker 1: I felt like. Season one ended on a note where
Speaker 1: we find out that Arman, who's been pretending to be
Speaker 1: somebody else, is actually a much more ancient vampire than Louis,
Speaker 1: and the Daniel, the one doing the interview is catches
Speaker 1: on and outs him, and then we find out he's
Speaker 1: the vampire Armand And that he and Louis have been
Speaker 1: together and we all we thought he was a servant
Speaker 1: or whatever. That how that ends, we find out that
Speaker 1: that so that what much of what we saw is
Speaker 1: not what it seems. The end of season two is
Speaker 1: where we find out that Armand has betrayed Louis in
Speaker 1: more ways than one, and Louis and him break up
Speaker 1: and Louis burns his computer hoping that he will not
Speaker 1: be able to write this book that he's been dictating
Speaker 1: to him and leaves and Daniel becomes a vampire and
Speaker 1: we find out that, you know, the book gets published,
Speaker 1: and Louis is like, people are Max Louise broken some
Speaker 1: of the great laws and basically he telepathic. He tells them,
Speaker 1: if you want some, come get some. I will fuck
Speaker 1: all y'all up, and he does, and that's the end
Speaker 1: of that one. Moran's also the evil person there. And
Speaker 1: then so for the episode the end of this season,
Speaker 1: for Alman Armand to be a madman cutting people's heads
Speaker 1: off and sowing back on is anti comatic, I will
Speaker 1: say that, But for the season was beautiful. I'd like
Speaker 1: for next season to end with something that does not
Speaker 1: involve Armand being the evil person. I'd love to see
Speaker 1: a redemption of our armand not even a redemption, but
Speaker 1: I'd love to see a softening of him. I can't
Speaker 1: remember how much Claudia figures in the Queen of the Damn.
Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like none at all, But okay,
Speaker 1: it's someone who's read the books. Last week will be
Speaker 1: like actually friends, Okay, I don't remember, sorry, but I
Speaker 1: think we can get more of Delaney, we can get
Speaker 1: more or of Claudia the character with flashbacks and stuff.
Speaker 1: I think that's possible. She just won't figure as much
Speaker 1: into it, and I think that's okay. I'd also like
Speaker 1: them to do something about the unreliable narrator thing, because
Speaker 1: here's the problem is because we all know everybody's an
Speaker 1: unrenewable narrator, because that means anything we see could be
Speaker 1: a lie. And that makes it very hard for us
Speaker 1: as the audience to connect with a lot of things
Speaker 1: because because like I said, the Claudia to everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a lie. The let's sat made that up. No,
Speaker 1: that wasn't a real I'd really one person I saw
Speaker 1: I saw a comment that said I need three characters
Speaker 1: to confirm something before I think it's true, and I
Speaker 1: was like, that's that's I see how that would be.
Speaker 1: But it's also a lot of fucking work, guys. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of work. Yeah, Like, I'd like them to
Speaker 1: resolve some of this. And I do understand that they've
Speaker 1: written themselves in kind of a pickle in certain ways
Speaker 1: by aging up Claudia by certain things that they put together.
Speaker 1: But I think you can write yourself out of it.
Speaker 1: I've been in situations where I was doing some cleanup
Speaker 1: work and someone had written the series in a certain
Speaker 1: way and I had to come in with a hundred
Speaker 1: pages of something else. I had to get to somewhere else.
Speaker 1: And it's possible. It can be a little bit of
Speaker 1: ring around the rosie, but it's possible to do it.
Speaker 1: And I'd love to see them straighten out this unreliable
Speaker 1: narrator thing and not use it to clear plotholes. Plot
Speaker 1: hole excuse me mmm, And remember a lot of people
Speaker 1: think plot holes are just anytime a character doesn't act
Speaker 1: the way you want them to act, anytime a character
Speaker 1: doesn't know something that you feel like they should know.
Speaker 1: But it's quite possible the character didn't know it at all.
Speaker 1: You know, there are legit plot holes, but they don't.
Speaker 1: It's not a plot hole because you think everybody in
Speaker 1: they're stupid, because if that's the case. I just finished
Speaker 1: watching The Imperfect Women. I never watched it, I never
Speaker 1: finished it. I had to finish it because I wanted
Speaker 1: to know what they got Carrie. Carrie Washington's hair rite
Speaker 1: her Wig was doing a lot in the first episode,
Speaker 1: so I finished it, and although it was a good thriller,
Speaker 1: it's exact I've I'm excuse me, it's exactly something I
Speaker 1: would've read as a thriller. It's right up my alley
Speaker 1: on there. I I don't understand why I didn't read
Speaker 1: the source material for it, but anyway, at the end
Speaker 1: of it, I was like, yeah, y'all all, don't do
Speaker 1: anything that these people are doing. This. This is exactly
Speaker 1: how you don't like go to the police. It's exactly
Speaker 1: how you don't catch a killer. This is exactly and
Speaker 1: but that's those are plot holes. People do exact wrong
Speaker 1: thing all the time, even us sitting at home being like,
Speaker 1: you know what if if my friend was missing, I
Speaker 1: would do X, Y and Z. Yeah, you think that's
Speaker 1: what you do. You don't know what you do until
Speaker 1: you do it. Okay, uh I I I can guess
Speaker 1: what I do based on what I've done. But again,
Speaker 1: you don't know what the fuck you do until you're
Speaker 1: in the situation. You'd be surprised what you do when
Speaker 1: when you're not sitting there watching a true crime show,
Speaker 1: be surprised what you actually do. But those aren't plot holes,
Speaker 1: they're just people acting stupid. Anyway, I'd like to see
Speaker 1: the show fix that. I don't think the show can
Speaker 1: get black again, can get super black again. I just
Speaker 1: don't think it can. Not with the status the center,
Speaker 1: and not with like even the way they're shooting. This
Speaker 1: is different. You know. This year people said Jacob Anderson
Speaker 1: was way hotter than he ever been, and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's the hair. It's the hair. Like it. People are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because Lasat's telling store and Louis is super hot to him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, guys, I don't do you guys think that.
Speaker 1: In season one and two they were like, make Jacob
Speaker 1: Anderson not as hot, guys, we got an ugly Jacob up.
Speaker 1: That's not what happened. It just because of the way
Speaker 1: the show, the framing device of the show, it makes
Speaker 1: it so easy for us to be like, well, that's
Speaker 1: because Lasat's looking at him, that's because Louie is looking
Speaker 1: at her. Are also some of the they changed Jacob's
Speaker 1: hair and we all thought he was a little hotter.
Speaker 1: Maybe anyway, I've been talking about this forever and my
Speaker 1: head hurts, so I am going to lay down and
Speaker 1: I'm like I feel like I'm getting sick. Guys, and
Speaker 1: you know I can't be sick. I just I can't
Speaker 1: deal with it. I got a million fucking things to do.
Speaker 1: Being sick is not one of them. I got nine
Speaker 1: to nine problems. Being sick cannot be one of them.
Speaker 1: I will see you guys on the next one.