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dot com slash softcore History. This week on Softcore History,

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we are discussing a medical pioneer of the Middle Ages,

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and by that I mean an absolute psycho who loved

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doing Frankenstein shit to kids, prisoners, and hoboes. We're talking

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about Frederick, the second Holy Roman Emperor during the thirteenth century.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to softcore History.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into softcore History. I'm your host for the week,

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Dan Bridgester, joined as always by Rob Fox.

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Speaker 1: What is up? And just Rob just robbed today today

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And it's just like only half of me. Really, I

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just spent three days murdering myself at my best friend's wedding.

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Speaker 3: So you're a little broken, I'm extremely like broken.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, I was like I don't know if I

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could fucking drink again. We were at his house watching

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the Chiefs game, and I was just.

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Speaker 3: Like, maybe questioning your own existence.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have time. I was too busy to have

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an existential crisis. That's for tonight.

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Speaker 3: You have kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Or on the plane, even on the plane, I

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was just like fucking too dead. And actually I was

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really distracted on the plane because that's how down bad

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the MLS is. By the way, there's a bunch of

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La Galaxy coaches on the plane.

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Speaker 3: Just sitting coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was Southwest. There's a pro sports team flying Southwest.

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Speaker 3: They get to choose their own seats though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he got an aisle seat hopefully, but he was

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like he was like on his non Apple tablet again.

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Speaker 3: Shit, we forgot the check.

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Speaker 1: MLS so bad, Yeah, dude, some of them were not

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Group A. Uh yeah, so La Galaxy not even Group

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A on the fucking Southwest flight. And but I was like,

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I've never ever spied on anyone on my plane before,

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but this dude was like doing game manager stuff like

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he was like on his tablet, like filling out like

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strategy shit and other stuff, and he would get up

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and go talk to I think they were.

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Speaker 3: Like FIFA though, where it's just the pitch, yes, player's name, yes, yeah, yeah,

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I think he was just playing FIFA.

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Speaker 1: Or what's the one that's big in Europe Football Manager.

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I don't know. There's one where you don't even play

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like it's just like Football Manager.

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Speaker 3: I think Madden had a version of that with like

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head coach. Yeah, Andy Reid's on the cover.

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Speaker 1: Actually, there's a baseball version that's really popular called outside

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the Park or why would you want that? Out of

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the park? Out of the parks? What it's called.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna take away all the cool parts of the game.

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Speaker 1: You build the roster, you moneyball it and ship you're

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Belding's not.

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Speaker 3: A fun game. People like it? Oh, nobody likes that.

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I'm pretty sure that's why they continued to not make it.

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Speaker 1: But they do still make out of the park baseball.

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But fair enough anyway.

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Speaker 3: I was a middle seat at my last flight to

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Oregon on Alaska Airlines. I got to see the northern

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lights through a phone.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean you had to look out the window,

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but somebody's phone was in the way.

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Speaker 3: Since I was middle seat, somebody had to put their

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phone up and was taking photos and you could see

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through that, but you couldn't see through the actual window, right.

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Speaker 1: So you really I don't think that counts as sing.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. Through that all, they're still they're

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still evasive to me. Yeah, today we're gonna talk about

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a man, Pope Gregory the ninth, referred to as the

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Antichrist himself. Okay, someone who was personally named by Dante

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as belonging in the sixth region of Hell.

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Speaker 1: Fuck, yeah, let's go. We haven't talked about Pope's enough recently,

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so I'm into this. Not a pope, I know, but

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Pope Pope makes an appearance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta gotta hit the Catholic checkbox.

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Speaker 1: Every we do, especially in Spooky month.

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Speaker 3: He was controversial from the jump. His father, Holy Roman

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Emperor Henry the sixth, doubted that his mother, Constance, at

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her advance age, could even get pregnant, let alone produce.

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Speaker 1: An air for him. So was she like twenty eight?

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, probably just gotta think.

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Speaker 1: Old witch at that point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, decrepit woman twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just disgusting. H that is funny. If there was

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a what they call it, if this was like a

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true like although even a geriatric pregnancy is not that old,

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geriatric pregnancy. They're just like, you, old, thirty five year

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old hag.

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Speaker 3: Time to move on to a younger womb.

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Speaker 1: How does that even work? They like, look at me,

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Speaker 3: You're just pumping out kids?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, put it in a younger one. And I was like,

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well I wanted to, But.

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Speaker 3: Are you worried about the third kid? It could be

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a monster fancy age.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I could be like this, actually,

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you might be giving me a preview of what my

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third child is.

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Speaker 3: Like the Antichrist himself, yeah, fuck with his counsel. They

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found a prophecy from Merlin, of all people, Yes, that Merlin.

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Speaker 1: The Merlin who what year was this the Renaissance?

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Speaker 3: Right, eleven ninety four?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so okay, so not before the Renaissance, but Merlin

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would have been like six hundred years earlier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like he's getting direct yea. Yeah, who's

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not even a real person, by the way, Well that's

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one theory. He's like kind of based on other like

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multiple people. Yeah, kind of like a lot of people

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during his time. Like Ragnar is not really one person

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for the Vikings, He's based on like three different vikings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Gilgamesh is the same way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's most people in the there's there's

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kind of like this dark age period where it's just like, oh, yeah,

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we're just gonna create stories.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, have of our own and make it a guy

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because people don't want to hear about like nineteen different guys.

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Just make it one guy, make it one dude.

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Speaker 3: Make them dope something to inspire to be, just somebody

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the boys can rally around. Yeah. So they take a

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prophecy from Merlin his counsel Henry the sixth, and they

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finally accept that the unborn child was destined for greatness.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well this is Christ in a way is destined

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for greatness.

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Speaker 3: So the prince that was promised yeah, right by Merlin.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like something can be both terrible and

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great in terms of just like awe inspiring, like wow,

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it's a big pile of bones you made, you have

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to be great to be terrible. Yeah, there's plenty of

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awful humans.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to be terrible to be terrible because

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but yeah, yeah, yeah, they're not terrible because they're not

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really important enough to be terrible. Yeah, like a homeless man.

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Speaker 1: On skid row terrible but but not really not great.

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He's not terrible though. A couple of sex crimes that

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no one will investigate or care about, but like, yeah,

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we're not. What do we need like Laddi and paler

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shit here h.

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Speaker 3: So his mother, Constance had to swear on every bible

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in the realm, like literally, yeah, jump through every hoop

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to ensure her husband that it was in fact his kid.

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She gave birth to Constantine the Great, later known as

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Frederick the Second, in the public square in Jesz in

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eleven ninety four.

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Speaker 1: Even the so she put on a show.

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Speaker 3: They had to They had to prove that this old

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witch how produced?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I gotta look this up. I

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gotta looked this up real quick.

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Speaker 3: But they don't have good records for their parents to

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be like, oh she was, you know, they have rough estimates.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I want to even know the rough estimate okay,

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because I want to know if they were making like

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a fifty year old woman get in the public square

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in wooden stirrups and just what I want to know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So it's constance of sicily constance of.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great she.

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Speaker 3: Gives birth in the public square eleven ninety four in

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front of the entire kingdom to prove the fact that

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this was both her and Henry the sixth kid.

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Speaker 1: She's forty. She's forty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, really funny, she's forty, like

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this old I'm telling you that it's like a great

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grandmother back then. That's why it is. Well, we were

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talking about that on one of the other shows. I

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Speaker 1: How it was just like this is why. It's just

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like if like once the sheen of childhood was of

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youth was off of you at like twenty, you just

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were beat, just beat. I think that's why they married

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fourteen year olds back then.

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Speaker 3: Not only beat, but you were kind of a nuisance.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, what are you doing? There's another mouth?

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Speaker 3: Defeed, it's like an old dog just pissing all over

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the house. Yeah, what are you doing here? Put her down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no songs about beautiful thirty eight year olds

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in medieval time, you know.

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Speaker 3: Eleven ninety four, No, certainly not. So they have the

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kid from the whole kingdom. A year later eleven ninety five,

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Henry rushes over to Sicily in a power grab when

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the crown becomes available.

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Speaker 1: Soon after, he got to claim a bit, right, since

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she's from there, he's not, she is? She is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, once that door is open, and it's like, yeah,

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let's get as much power as possible, which the Pope's

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not super pumped about because he's like, you know what,

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Holy Roman Emperor Cicily, we need two different governments there.

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We can't have this man just accumulate all this power.

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Speaker 1: And were the Normans there?

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Speaker 3: He is, so they are Norman kind of the Normans?

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Speaker 1: Are you kind of everywhere? Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He was crowned after his father dies a few years later. Uh,

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and the toddler son of the Holy Roman e Birn

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Sicily is crowned at three.

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Speaker 1: So love that.

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Speaker 3: Frederick the Second takes power at.

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Speaker 1: Three as a young tyke. The Antichrist gets power at three.

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Speaker 4: H It's all for you, Frederick the second it's all

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for you, but his mother quickly gives up his titles

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in Germany a year later, seeing the right on on

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the wall that the Pope did not like.

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Speaker 3: The idea of such a young kid having this much territory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: He preferred two different government bodies to limit the power

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of each roller because again, at the end of the day,

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Pope's in charge.

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, no one can be You can't be bigger

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than the Pope. And at this point, yeah, there really

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is no like dominant, like craz easy strong power in Europe.

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The closest it's certainly not a Catholic one, like the

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Franks and Holy Roman Empire are probably the two biggest,

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and then really probably the most powerful country in Europe

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would still be the Eastern Roman Empire, but they're not Catholic.

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So and by the way, I was looking it up

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because I wanted to double check. But this is right

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after the episode we did on the Pope who hated

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the second Amendment Innocent the second, Yeah, who said you

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couldn't use right because that was all about sicily.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we're gonna be talking about innocent the third.

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Oh sweet, let's go his mentor. Uh, Frederick's yeah, all right,

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so we'll get into that. So he's crowing to three,

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gives up territory to Germany. Still, you know, he's gonna

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be the ruler of Sicily one day. But his mother,

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Mama Bear, becomes Queen Regent of Sicily and gives the

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papal state power over the region as well. She's like,

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all right, I'm gonna rule in his stead until he

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becomes of age. But also, you know, here you go, Pope,

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this is your territory now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but great tidings. Do you pop an island? I

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give you an island. He'll totally give it back, dude.

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Speaker 3: Not fully trusting his mom, his uncle invade Sicily in

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twelve hundred, yeah, and kidnaps young Constantine and thus begins

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Speaker 1: So do we get an explanation on why the name switches.

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Speaker 3: From Constantine and Frederick. Yeah, that's when he takes crown.

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He just takes the name for oh, okay, okaykay. He's

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born Constantine because his mother is Constance.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he gives them He just runs around the castle.

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They probably call him his friends call him Connie, but

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he officially legally Frederick.

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Speaker 3: His legal king name is Frederick A. Stops Frederick second. Yeah, Constantine, Yeah,

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you know his his day ones call him Constant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Connie, Connie, look at the host of Connie.

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Speaker 3: He was raised in the royal courts of Palermo, taught

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five different languages, and Pope and since the third became

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Constantine's legal guardian and the lad became the Pope's protege.

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Speaker 1: I'll just leave all the molestation jokes on the cutting

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room floor.

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Speaker 3: Back then, you think it was kind of like that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, still yes, although I do think they probably fucked women.

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Speaker 3: More back I think they had more of an infinity

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for women. Yeah, pope's just had like what.

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Speaker 1: Popes in particular were probably the kids chicks. Yeah, I'm

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just saying it's an easy layup. The king of priests

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adopts a young boy, like you know, it is what

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it is. But yeah, popes were banging.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna ship and kind of form the

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future for him, for the pope.

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Speaker 1: You want you, you want the kid who is basically

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going to be your muscle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so like you gotta be able to control him.

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You're gonna be the puppet master. Yeah, he's gonna be upfront.

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He's gonna do anything you tell me to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So at twelve eleven, at the Diet of Normberg, backed

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by Innocent the Third, already the Second was elected King

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of Germany over Otto of Brunswick and crowned in twelve twelve.

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Speaker 1: Bang.

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Speaker 3: Innocent the Third died in twelve sixteen, and it wasn't

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until twelve twenty that Fred was officially crowned Holy Roman

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Emperor by Honors the Third.

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Speaker 1: By the way, these popes, they obviously are power hungry people,

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like a lot of them. But like he's playing the

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long game. Yeah, he's thinking ahead of himself.

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Speaker 3: Honors the Third also was one of his tutors as

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a child.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so still.

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Speaker 3: Kind of into good graces of the pope. Still hasn't

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fully turned on the papacy.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, he turns out. Yeah, he is the Antichrist.

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Speaker 3: Fuck this guy already and now going out against the

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Catholic Church.

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Speaker 1: Would never, I would never, heal, dude, I would never.

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Do you know how many confessions I went to because

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I was at a Jewish wedding this weekend. My god,

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I still have my salise on.

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Speaker 3: Did they have something you could pop into at the

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airport in Saint Louis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's

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a big Catholic Yeah yeah, it's a Catholic city. So

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I imagine you hopping in the confessional at the airport.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we initially didn't have it, but there was this

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really great movement. A lot of brave Catholics forced the

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airport to get rid of the lactation stations and women's

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restrooms and make all of those confessionals. Yes, and I

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to this day I thank them.

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Speaker 3: Now, we're not here to talk about the intricacies of

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his political career, his constant clashes with the papacy in

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the future where he is excommunicated from the church twice,

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or the crusades that he launched.

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Speaker 1: He excimniated for the crusades.

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Speaker 3: No, he had two other crusades, but he's we're we're

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not here to talk okay, We're not here to talk

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about that.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, we're getting personal.

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Speaker 3: Just like Friday the Second paid no attention to the

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sanctions imposed upon them. We're not going to dive into

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fic calling Moses, Muhammad, even Jesus frauds. We're not going

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to get into that we're not getting into that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know that that two out

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of the three of those would even make the Pope

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very angry.

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Speaker 3: That's for another episode.

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Speaker 1: It seems like only the Jesus one would really rub

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the pope the wrong way. Maybe Moses, certainly not Mohamed.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to get into how he was married

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at least three times, fathered eight legitimate children, and had

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many mistresses and illegitimate children through his lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's just the part of the game.

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Speaker 3: No, it is spooky Moth, and we're here to talk

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about his side quest, batshit crazy experiments he conducted in

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his never ending thirst of knowledge?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, was he the original Nazi scientist?

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Speaker 3: Kind of God damn it. He is referred to as

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the Wonder of the world after all. Perfect, And it's

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not because he was like a great looking dude or.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just liked that. Every generation there's a guy

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who thinks he's really smart because he's like, if I

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saw it this man to this dog, could it be

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a dog man? And like, no, they're both. They died.

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They both I was gonna die there and they did immediately.

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Now we know you're not far off yeah, we know this.

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The dog mantain is impossible. Ten is old. It's always

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the same thing, tod. It's like what if we sold

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one thing to a Nazis sing with stitches.

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Speaker 3: He is sometimes referred to as Emperor Frankenstein.

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Speaker 1: God damn it, Frederick, I'm a great man of many

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mental prowess.

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Speaker 3: Was known for his great curiosity in science, and the

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lengths he would go in his quest for wisdom and

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empirical understanding both fascinated and repelled his contemporaries.

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Speaker 1: I just have a real problem with the way all

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that's described. He loved science, Like if jamming a fire

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cracker up a frog's ass is not a science experiment.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta see just how far each piece of

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the frog is gonna go when it explodes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeffrey Dahmer is just doing science experiments. Putting a

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fucking power drill into someone's head. They're like, oh, now we.

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Speaker 3: Know it's on the name of wisdom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: First up. Fred was very curious about the nature of

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the human soul, oh boy, and its relationship with the body.

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Speaker 1: Oh God.

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Speaker 3: He conducted experiments on prisoners, well, terminally ill individuals, peasants.

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We're just people he didn't want around anymore.

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Speaker 1: Really, it really takes a leftter there. It's like prisoners.

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Oh that's bad, but I guess they're prisoners terminally ill.

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Well they're gone anyway, poor people, and then other apparently

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and then whoever he felt like killing anyone, anyone.

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Speaker 3: You were open season. Yeah. He wanted to see if

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there was any physical evidence of the soul's departure from

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the body.

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Speaker 1: There's only one way to find out, got a look.

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Speaker 3: He would put these unfortunate individuals into a sealed wooden

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casket or barrel, deprive them of food and water until

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that person eventually.

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Speaker 1: Perished. Right.

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Speaker 3: The whole process was closely observed throughout, especially as the

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man true close to death. A hole was made in

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the barrel for this purpose, and it soon became apparent why.

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Speaker 1: I've actually stumped. Unless they're just like peeking into watch,

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I don't.

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Speaker 3: The point of the experiment was to test whether or

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not the human soul could be seen at the moment

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of death as it left the body. So the hole

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had to be you know, carved out so the soul could.

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Speaker 1: Leave, presumably presumably if Frederick himself wasn't a part of it.

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He was one degree zero degrees a way from hundreds

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of people who had been in battles and watched people

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die like twenty times in a day. I it's the

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eleven hundreds. So you can go to an execution any

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day of the week, Like it's a fucking Starbucks.

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Speaker 3: Too much space, so you have to capture okay, and

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you need the right lighting. Maybe you gotta see the

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soul come out of the body, because if there's too

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many souls, it's just yeah, it just looks like smog. Yeah,

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you don't really you don't really know. Yeah, it's hard

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to say. Could Yeah, good lord, all right, science, it's

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a child trying to catch Santa Claus setting up traps, right,

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fucking trying to vacuum in the soul.

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Speaker 1: That's just oh man. Yeah. Whenever anyone's like, I got quest,

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it's just because it's like, you're not a scientist. You

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just have the means to answer any question you have

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any way you want. Yeah, but you have the resource

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to do so that's what I'm saying. You have the

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means to do whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: Frederick also had a strong interest in medicine and is

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believed to have been involved in or encouraged the study

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of medical practices. He promoted medical inquiry, particularly in the

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fields of surgery and anatomy, based on the knowledge that

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flowed into his court from the Islamic world and other regions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Muslims were the ones definitely on

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the cutting edge. Maybe the Chinese too, but I don't remember.

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But yeah, this is the golden age of Viglama, right,

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Bagdad has not fallen yep. Yeah, so yeah, they're the

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ones might be close, it's around that time, but I

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don't think it's fallen yet. I forget. But yeah, I

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mean they're the best at it. And then they're they're

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nice enough to give people, uh sedatives. At least I

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wonder if Frederick is well.

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Speaker 3: In another experiment, Frederick ordered two prisoners be given dinner,

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each man to be fed the same food the other.

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After eating, one man was sent out to go hunt,

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while the other was told to go to bed and

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sleep off the meal he ingested. Unknown to the two men,

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Frederick intended to investigate the different effects that exercise and

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sleep might have on the digestion process.

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Speaker 1: Only one way to find out what's it look like.

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Speaker 3: This was achieved a few hours afterwards, when Frederick had

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both men killed and disembowed for the purpose of comparing

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the state of the contents of their stomach to see

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what had greater effect, like.

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Speaker 1: On digestion, Like what gets the food moving? I need

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to find out the optimal way to eat food. So

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let's get some hoboes, feed him some pie and yeah,

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one exercises, one sleeps, and murder him. Cut them open.

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Speaker 3: I mean he but he could have been on the

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cutting edge of you know, health and fitness.

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Speaker 1: This is absolutely something that at least five hundred Instagram

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influencers would do if they had the means to do it.

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Speaker 3: He's like, what do carbohydrates do for a workout?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Would I need to like despike the insulin?

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Speaker 1: What's your blood look like? If you to eat carbohydrates

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and work out and don't work out, and they just

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like cut cut a hobo open and smell their blood,

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I get I don't even know how they would do it,

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taste it.

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Speaker 3: This peasant had an awesome workout. I mean, that's kind

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of how you want to go out anyway. I guess,

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have a dope ass workout and then just get disembowled.

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Speaker 1: Now, did they happen to catch any souls leaving the

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body as they were.

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Speaker 3: Also trying to different experiment.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they weren't even looking. No, you can't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do both at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Seems foolish. Science has its limits, after.

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Speaker 3: All, it's going to kind of taint the research. Yeah, yeah,

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that may find two different things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, too many cooks.

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Speaker 3: Does you have plenty of bodies? Yeah, yeah, plenty of bodies.

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Speaker 1: You could be doing both these at the same time.

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Speaker 3: Frederick also established several animal reserves in locations across he

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wides break Kingdom, and he liked to take them on

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his travels. What the animals m Okay, many of them

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are either unknown or rare in the areas he visited.

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and elephants.

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Speaker 1: I was literally about to say girafts, just because I

468
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thought it was funny. It would just be funny if

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Germany somehow ended up with a native giraffe population, because

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this guy was just like, yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool

471
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to have drafts in this force. Mm let's do it.

472
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I mean, I assume one winter probably kills all.

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Speaker 3: Of them, but until then, yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's a fun.

474
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He's like, we're gonna test the limits of giraffes body

475
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temperature diddy probably.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Seriously, how many horses would it take if I

477
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to break a giraffe's neck, Like we tie a noose

478
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around the giraffe's neck and then just tie a horse

479
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to it. One doesn't do it? K two? Three? Get

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him on a big wagon thing and get it for

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like eight on one of those huge like carriage things.

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Finally the drafts had pop off.

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Speaker 3: Ken giraffes and elephants live in harmony?

484
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah they can?

485
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Speaker 3: They can?

486
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Speaker 1: They do?

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Speaker 3: We know that because of him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now ken apes and rhinos in a very small contained facility,

490
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can they live in harmony?

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Speaker 1: Probably? Did he experiment on that too? Well?

492
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Speaker 3: He was very RFK like with his interest in falconry.

493
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Okay actually published the book on the subject called the

494
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Art of Hunting with Birds, which combined his personal observations

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with an attempt to categorize different species of bird and

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their behaviors, and he of course tested their abilities by

497
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torturing other animals and occasionally a poor to get data

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on his blood birds.

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Speaker 1: This guy just needed data. Yeah, he just needed that

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like constantly. Wait, how did he torture? Was he having

501
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the birds like hunt.

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Speaker 3: People sometimes just kind of swooped down? That's pretty sweet?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Fuck I would go to that. Fuck yeah, I

504
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would go to.

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Speaker 3: That, like like the most dangerous game.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say. Let's just say I'm in Pakistan. For

507
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some some reason, some Pakistani guy is like, Hey, there

508
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is a murderer, a serial killer that's being executed today,

509
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and he's being executed by We're tossing him into a

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field naked, and golden eagles are gonna hunt him.

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Speaker 3: There's about a dozen birds that are just gonna dive

512
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bomb down. Would you like to go and tear him

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to pieces? Ye?

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Speaker 1: Would you? Would you like to go to the serial

515
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killers and see what what a bird hunting a human is?

516
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Like he confirmed serial killer? Yeah, okay, okay, I'll go.

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Speaker 3: Will it be refreshments, bird of prey tearing the man apart?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: God go kind of game.

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Speaker 1: Who am I to judge your culture? Oh?

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Speaker 3: This has happened probably ten times at least in human history.

522
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What bird expert execution? It's not not zero, as it

523
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was in fashion for the time. Frederick often engaged in alchemy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair that. I don't even that. I don't

525
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even think an eye of that.

526
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Speaker 3: No, No, of course, our boy was dabbling with substances

527
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like gold, silver, mercury and other elements, and attempts to

528
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transform materials were uncover the secrets of nature. He sought

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the discovery of the Philosopher's Stone, the transmute based metals

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into gold and achieve, of course, eternal life.

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Speaker 1: So he was looking for the Philosopher's Stone, not the

532
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Sorcerer's stone, the Philosopher's stone, same thing. But yeah, the

533
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americanized version is stupid, like we're just so dumb. Philosopher's

534
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Stone sounds way better, but an eight year old is

535
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not going to read something with the word philosopher in it.

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Speaker 3: He's just mixing metals and well, yeah, the main thing

537
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is to try to make gold out of anything. Yeah,

538
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that was a big thing. But he also wanted an

539
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eternal life. That was, yes, I think the ultimate goal.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, the Philosopher's Stone will give you what like

541
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a little all This is based on the Harry Potter.

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Speaker 3: Book had the Bunsen burners going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nicholas Fimel was a real guy too. People don't

544
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people don't know that.

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Speaker 3: He also loved a good animal and human dissection and

546
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perhaps the stitching together.

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Speaker 1: I mean it seems like it got to that at

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some point. Like I just like that. There's some amount

549
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of scientists and history that are basically the doctor from

550
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South Park who just makes animals with like five asses.

551
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's.

552
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Speaker 1: Some people. Really they're not in it for learning beyond

553
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their own imagination, Like they want to know what would happen,

554
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but it's like the most useless knowledge, the most useless

555
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shit you will ever learn. He's just like, I'm personally curious,

556
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what would happen if you sewed twenty pigeons to a

557
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man's back? Would he fly?

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Speaker 3: You gotta get some of the evil out of you.

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Speaker 1: I think it just puts more into you, to be honest,

560
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because what do you do that first?

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Speaker 3: But that's what happens when you feed the beast, It

562
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only gets hungry.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly, Like it's just you see it. You do

564
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it once and you're like, A, I did it. B

565
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No one got really mad, and see a couple people

566
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thought it would pretty cool, So maybe I'll keep doing it.

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Speaker 3: Dude, you take some of those falcons. The talons get

568
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sewn into a man's back.

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Speaker 1: He's flying. Yeah, I think we're gonna make an angel.

570
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I think with the falcons, you go one on each shoulder.

571
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So yeah, it's like a freak angel.

572
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Speaker 3: We're making a creature of God.

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Speaker 3: Frederick the second has strong connections to the Islamic world,

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as I said, particularly through his rule in Sicily and

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his diplomat meetings with Muslim rulers in the Middle East.

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He maintained a court where scholars from the Arab world

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disciplines that were considered part of the occult tradition in

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medieval Europe. This of course, God, I'm excommunicated from the church.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Was he just so like one and done? I

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mean they had to be just pissed off in general

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that he was hanging out with Muslim dudes and all

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that shit, even though Sicily, like you said, like it

635
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was kind of a crossroads at the time, because the

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Normans did take it back I think in the early

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around the same time that they took the English crown,

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they also took Sicily and then but before that, Sicily like, yeah,

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I was part of the different caliphates for a couple

640
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hundred years, I feel like, so they were still there.

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Speaker 3: He also had sorcerers and people that kind of dealt

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with dark magic on his council.

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Speaker 1: So that they might have I bet you he was

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so into just off the church. I bet you. He

645
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loved gin. I mean you he wanted He wanted nothing

646
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more than to see a gin.

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Speaker 3: He probably tried to make a man of fire.

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Speaker 1: He was like, how can we turn a mud person

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into a fire person.

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Speaker 3: If you don't know what that means, light him up.

651
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Islam believes that humans were created from dirt, you know,

652
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from dust whatever, from dust. You came dust, you would

653
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turn and genie genies are canonical in Islam, but they're

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made from fire. Hence they're, in my opinion, the superior species.

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I am racist against my own kind because I mean,

656
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fire person is cooler. But god, he would have gone

657
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fucking bananas and he probably did light someone won a

658
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fire like I wonder if we could turn them into

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a genie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if we let him on fire, All right, try hot.

661
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Does the body need to get to turn into a gin?

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Speaker 1: That guy was a pussy. Let's get to one stronger.

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Like I said, you need to be pretty strong to

664
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do it. No more kids or that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's why he's trying to capture the souls. For

666
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what you turn the souls into a genie?

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Speaker 1: I think you just want to trap a soul and

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it looks pretty in a Mason jar.

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Speaker 3: But what is a geny other than an entrapped soul

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with superpowers.

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Speaker 1: That's that's true pretty much when it's in the in

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the lamp. That'd be funny if he just like it

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was like a college apartment. He just had like twenty

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Mason jars of souls lining the top of his cabinets.

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But he also just put like some highlight or fluid

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in there so it was cool, different colors, maybe backlit.

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Speaker 3: It, or like ran out of really awesome containers. So

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he's like, man, I got a empty grey goose bottle,

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just put it in there. You're the genie inside of

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a gray goose.

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Speaker 1: Why not? It's like a crab. They're like crabs, you

682
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know what I mean, they just have to find something

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to be inside of. It doesn't matter if it's a

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shell or an old coke can.

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Speaker 3: Man cocam would do wonders for a crab.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've seen pictures of crabs in like

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literal human garbage.

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Speaker 3: That just means you're in a better country maybe. I

689
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mean you're in a Coca Cola country, not a pepsi country.

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Do you know that? Do you know why? Uh, Coca

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Cola is in kind of richer countries No, I literally don't,

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or Allied countries. No, because they helped set up factories

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in World War Two? Oh uh so Coca Cola. I

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forget the actual like logistics of this, but they helped

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the Allied forces do and uh kind of banish their

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product from the axis. Okay, and those fucking turncoats all

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up in the axis there.

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Speaker 1: I know that. I think pepsi is the bigger soda

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in Russia. Yeah because of that, Yeah yeah, yeah, which

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not an axis power. But you know, right after that Moore,

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00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,880
I mean they became Yeah, they weren't. They weren't good.

702
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,599
Uh yeah, that's funny. I didn't know that.

703
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: So you see a crab with a Coca cola shell

704
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:10,440
might be in France. That's a hero right there. Now

705
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:18,360
you're gonna hate his most famous and perhaps darkest experiment. Okay,

706
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,800
you're gonna really hate it.

707
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,679
Speaker 1: As a father, Oh Jesus man, I just got to

708
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,559
see my kids for the first time in three days.

709
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:28,480
What was he doing? What was he so in toddlers too?

710
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: He wasn't so in children anything.

711
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: Okay, it's darker, great, perfect, that's awesome.

712
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,519
Speaker 3: Now, his opponents, particularly in church, painting him as a

713
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:40,639
figure who dabbled in forbidden knowledge.

714
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: They were correct. Yeah, they didn't paint him at that way.

715
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,559
They were just accurately describing him. Although I mean, is

716
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:55,880
that knowledge first off, forbidden knowledge is actually not an

717
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,360
accurate way to put that, because one, there's no knowledge,

718
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:01,840
only as much is there is knowledge? Again and being like,

719
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,039
wonder what it would sound like if you cut a

720
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,920
baby's hand off. That's not really knowledge, like it is

721
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:13,639
technically information, but I don't know that it's knowledge per se.

722
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,159
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't work. Check that off the box.

723
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, now we know what it sounds like when

724
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,119
you cut a baby's hand up. You could have guessed

725
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:22,599
and you didn't need it. You didn't need to need

726
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:23,679
the information. Don't worry.

727
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:27,039
Speaker 3: We're not cutting kids up. All right, we're not stitching

728
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:30,880
kids up. We're not really paying attention to kids at all.

729
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: Oh so they did they.

730
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,599
Speaker 3: Let me get to it that you know, bombered them,

731
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:39,519
wen't get to it. This is perhaps his most bertal experiment.

732
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:42,079
The origins of human language was something that he was

733
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:43,320
fascinated with.

734
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

735
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: He embarked upon an experiment that he hoped would prove

736
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,320
what was the original language of mankind.

737
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,199
Speaker 1: So it was like a reverse tower of babble kind

738
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:57,239
of I'm unfamiliar with that story.

739
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,599
Speaker 3: Go ahead, and so give me that wisdom.

740
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:05,079
Speaker 1: That's just like a biblical story where I think humans

741
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:08,039
were like they were just like, let's build a fucking tower.

742
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,199
The God's up there. Let's build a tower all the

743
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,559
way up to God and they were doing it. They

744
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:17,199
were like crushing it. Where were you? Yeah, when they

745
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:22,679
built the latter and God was like, oh shit, they're

746
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:26,119
getting pretty close. How can we fuck this up? And

747
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,599
he was like kind of nice about it, like he

748
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,280
could have just killed them all right, made the tower collapse,

749
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,400
but he was like, I'm gonna make all of you

750
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,440
speak different languages.

751
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,039
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So it was almost like a construction side.

752
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: It was basically yeah, honestly, but it was basically like

753
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,920
the origin story. It's like the Biblical origin story for language.

754
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:52,440
Basically like not beyond the singular whatever proto language that

755
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,639
they believed existed but never did.

756
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 3: Okay, well, Furk didn't do that. In his eagerness to

757
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,559
determine what language have been given to Adam and Eve

758
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:06,159
in the Garden of Eden, yep, he gave hundreds of

759
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:09,519
babies over to the care of nurses who were given

760
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:14,440
strict instructions on how to raise them, don't talk to them.

761
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,239
The nurses were ordered not to interact with the kids

762
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,760
other when strictly necessary. The offense could be fed and bathed,

763
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,440
but no more, and they were not to be spoken to.

764
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,960
We're coddled under any Circumjan Jesus, Christ, God, damn it.

765
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,000
Hundreds of children start of any form of affection, warmth,

766
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:39,199
basic interaction, died quite simply out of a lack of love.

767
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds really accurate. Also, I mean a lot

768
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,880
of infants just died anyway back then, some who knows,

769
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,719
maybe some died for normal ish reasons, but good Lord.

770
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,000
And then also so this.

771
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: And he also did not find the answer because no shit,

772
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:56,519
none of the kids spoke.

773
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, no fucking shit. So there was I think we've

774
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,679
talked about this on the show before a while ago

775
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,440
or something, but you remember that German family, that the

776
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:06,760
German dad who just kept all his kids fucking locked

777
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,239
in the basement from birth or actually no, he kept

778
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,320
some of his kids locked in the basement and then

779
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,840
like fucking raped his daughter while he was down there.

780
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,719
And the daughter had kids, I think one for sure,

781
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:23,719
but I think multiple, and they were raised down there,

782
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,519
not none of the kids could speak. They were raised

783
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:29,679
down there not knowing any language. And so when they

784
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:32,519
finally found him, when this shit happens, like it's obvious,

785
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,679
obviously hyper unethical to do what he did to try

786
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:39,840
to figure out a language. But when it happens organically.

787
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:44,480
Social scientists and language scientists or whomever this sitution it

788
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:52,199
pertains to, will like rush to that situation to get

789
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,519
data that they can't otherwise collect because you obviously you

790
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:58,360
can't fucking collect it. So it's kind of like because

791
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,159
they and they're not trying to find out like, oh

792
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,199
well this baby that was walked in a dark basement

793
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,239
with speaking out of an Eves language, it's mostly just

794
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,679
like hot brain development information language development.

795
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not gonna do it ourselves, but if it's

796
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,800
already available.

797
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,679
Speaker 1: Pretty literally, yeah, they'll do that. So the I remember

798
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:16,400
the German one being a situation where it was like

799
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,639
a bunch of after the kids were taking care of

800
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,000
and made as okay as you could possibly make a

801
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:26,079
child that'ssar, but the kids, the kids were speaking like

802
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,880
gibberish language, like making noise.

803
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 3: I imagine you would develop something that would help you

804
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,000
communicate with the other kids.

805
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, it was.

806
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,079
Speaker 3: It would almost be probably pre man. You're just making

807
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:44,559
kind of grunts and sounds pretty much.

808
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: We Yeah, I think they think I think they believe

809
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,920
we develop esque.

810
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: What like a Neanderthal esque language.

811
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they actually believe we developed like sign

812
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,280
language before we developed spoken.

813
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: Language that would makes sense.

814
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it was just like and then you start

815
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,559
adding noises to it, like the like oh it's the

816
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:07,119
buffalo or whatever. But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fucking.

817
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,119
Speaker 3: Just making fun of all the artsy kids that kind

818
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:17,559
of drew stick figures on caves. Yeah, just essentially call

819
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:18,840
him gay pretty much.

820
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, bitch.

821
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,199
Speaker 3: Uh. And those were the experiments of Frederick the Second. Obviously,

822
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,840
like I said, we can get into there's a whole

823
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,760
other episode about him and his actual politics geopolitical career.

824
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:35,559
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem as interesting.

825
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,159
Speaker 3: All the things that kind of he came across. He

826
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:39,559
had two different crusades, one of which where he never

827
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:43,079
actually uh, I don't think anyone swung a battle axe

828
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,880
or a sword.

829
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:45,679
Speaker 1: Did he even go anywhere?

830
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: No, they kind of did it through diplomacy. It was

831
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,559
a crusade through diplomacy week.

832
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,599
Speaker 1: That's stupid, that's dumb. There were a lot of crusades

833
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:55,199
at that time.

834
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: He also spoke like, like I said, five languages as

835
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,199
a kid, but here his life he kept picking up

836
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,800
more and more languages because not he wanted to stunt

837
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,519
on everyone. He wanted to just be able to show

838
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,480
up and just kind of embarrass you in your language.

839
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,039
Speaker 1: He that's fair. He's like a good example of just

840
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:17,880
because you're curious, which is admirable, But just because you're

841
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,920
curious doesn't mean you're smart.

842
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,079
Speaker 3: And just because you can doesn't mean you should.

843
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's it's very good to have question to

844
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,559
always be so curious about the world and questions about

845
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:33,840
the world and everything like that. But if you're but

846
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:37,360
still if your questions are just like wonder, what would

847
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,599
happen if I just like rubbed my poop on my dog?

848
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,679
Like what, That's not the sort of curiosity you need

849
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:52,760
at all at fucking all? Like just or like whoever

850
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,280
decided that like ass chugging alcohol might be interesting?

851
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 3: To be fair, in his defense, he is did it

852
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,280
with a couple advancements in like surgery and medical practices. Okay,

853
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,880
I mean you know what, No, maybe not necessary. I

854
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,960
mean he backed the people that did it, but he's

855
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,199
not doing it himself. Yeah.

856
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: It seems like whenever he was quarterback, very the Jerry

857
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:14,800
Jones of science in a lot of ways, you know

858
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,920
what I mean, Like he should just be writing checks.

859
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he his hands on. Yeah, certainly that's

860
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,079
the problem. He needs to just be writing checks. He

861
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:24,320
really can't be the GM.

862
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: He really can't be making sort of personnel decisions like that.

863
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: And clearly he didn't figure out the eternal life question,

864
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,360
didn't figure out the sole question, didn't figure out the

865
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,760
language like problem.

866
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,519
Speaker 1: How did he die like normal?

867
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just kind of suddenly died in twelve fifty.

868
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,920
But I mean that was a pretty good life for him.

869
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: Sixty years, So fifty fifty sixty years.

870
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 3: He was born in ninety four, Yeah, died in twelve fifty.

871
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:56,840
It's not a bad it's fifty fifty six fifty six.

872
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty solid, honestly for the time period. You

873
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,599
never know, you stub your toe wrong and gets infected,

874
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:03,719
you fucking die.

875
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,199
Speaker 3: And kind of his bloodline and stuff don't really take

876
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,840
over much longer did he have He had kids, though,

877
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,079
he had eight kids, legitimate kids, and then he had

878
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,719
a bunch of bastards he fucked around. Yeah, he's an

879
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,599
interesting dude.

880
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,639
Speaker 1: Would at least maybe slightly admire him if he had

881
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,760
used his own bastard children for the experiment. He was

882
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,000
taking other people's kids.

883
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he might have he might have. He probably did.

884
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,760
I'm just saying leaders lead, Like you said, why don't

885
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,119
you just kind of kill two birds with one stone?

886
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,880
What do you mean with you said, with certain experiments.

887
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,000
I bet he did it with his kids.

888
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, one would imagine, oh, thank you for bringing the baby.

889
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: Getting uh mouthy, I'm going to totally legitimize this baby

890
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,880
off a raised it in the castle, totally.

891
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: Don't worry about nothing like puttin the language bond. Mm

892
00:45:58,519 --> 00:45:59,320
take it to Fay.

893
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 3: I just love the whole kind of arc though, where

894
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:07,239
his mom has to prove that she's gonna have a

895
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,199
kid at forty what they have to go to this

896
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,119
ancient prophecy from Merlin.

897
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: From fucking Merlin, and then she still got to put

898
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,320
toss her legs up in the town square.

899
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: But it is our baby, and pushed that baby out,

900
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,880
raise it up like it's fucking simba.

901
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: Oh boy. I wonder how they cut the biblical cords

902
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,519
back then. Probably it's a regular knife. Yeah, probably a knife.

903
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,320
You just fucking chop chop chop chop chop job, and

904
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,039
then you kind of squeeze the rest of it off.

905
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,840
I mean, honestly, every birth ever pretty much is like

906
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:43,840
a show. I feel like at some point, maybe if

907
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,079
I was a woman, I don't know, definitely speaking out

908
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:49,440
of my ass here, but like when the two times

909
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,599
Courtney's given birth, just like six people in the room

910
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,079
back in the Middle Ages, you in your royal especially

911
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,360
you're already giving birth in front of like twenty or

912
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,800
thirty people. It's fucking what's a few hundred more at

913
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,519
that point, you know what I mean? Like, it's just

914
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:08,719
I'm sure she has like maybe her own uh off

915
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,840
off put by, like you know, stinky peasants being there,

916
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,760
Like why does a fucking peasant need to see this?

917
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:15,800
But like when they were giving like when kings and

918
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,199
queens are giving birth, like it's a packed house.

919
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: The room was full, need the entire realm to see, right.

920
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: So like again, like it's just like, I guess what's

921
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,360
a few hundred more? All right, My whole fucking court's

922
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,760
in here already. I don't know these people anyway, and

923
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,239
I'll never see them again, So fuck it, let's go.

924
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,159
Speaker 3: What was your favorite of the experiments mentioned?

925
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,159
Speaker 1: Oh god, I do like the sole one is like

926
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,119
a perfect creepy medieval thing, like we're just gonna put

927
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:47,000
you in a box.

928
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: Time capsule.

929
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, drill a hole. And I assume these people had

930
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,480
no idea going in. They're just grabbed up the street.

931
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: No, of course not. They're signing. They're not signing up

932
00:47:59,440 --> 00:47:59,559
for that.

933
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're not. They're not signing.

934
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: I'm doing what now.

935
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: They're not signing consent forms for example, at the for

936
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the soul experiment.

937
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Speaker 3: But like I get a loaf of bread and some soup.

938
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You kidding me? Done, I'll sign up.

939
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like drug experiments now, where they're like you good,

940
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a thousand dollars if you take this weird thing for

941
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a weekend. You just sleep here, we watch you for

942
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three days.

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Speaker 3: My man was sending spices to places too. Obviously he

944
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was caught. He had such a massive territory that he

945
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ruled over, had had the end with the Muslim So I.

946
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Speaker 1: Mean this Sicily was like a crossroads, certainly a cultural crossroads.

947
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So yeah, he probably had some access to.

948
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean some food, good food. Yeah, I'm

949
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a poor person. I get access to maybe some some

950
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seasoned food if I sign up for it.

951
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a little bit of a misnomer

952
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that there was no seasoning. I get that. But yeah,

953
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,280
but yeah, fuck yeah, Sicily's where really all the modern

954
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,960
American Italian food comes from. Sicily, Southern Italy.

955
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,559
Speaker 3: If there was a place to live during that time,

956
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this was top way up way up there.

957
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Speaker 1: For sure. Gets conquered a lot, I guess, but a

958
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lot of war.

959
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Speaker 3: But it's worth it.

960
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Great environmental culture, great weather cuisine. Yeah, pretty seems pretty sweet.

961
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I would I would love to go to Sicily. Actually,

962
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that would be high on my list of Italian places.

963
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Speaker 3: Did he ever really have a chance? I guess he

964
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was kidnapped at a young age by his fucking pope,

965
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by his uncle and the pope.

966
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Speaker 1: Yeah whatever.

967
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Speaker 3: They kind of groomed him.

968
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Speaker 1: If you can't trust, if you can't leave your kids

969
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with the priests, who can leave your kids with?

970
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Speaker 3: But also, of course he acts out against the Catholic Church.

971
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He was raised by them. Yeah, was that all?

972
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Speaker 1: It was? Like? Fuck you Goad?

973
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Speaker 3: Maybe would ever be like you twenties, He's just rebellious.

974
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I'm not gonna pray, I'm gonna cut this guy open.

975
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Speaker 1: It's so that actually would be funny.

976
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Speaker 3: I think it was more though, that his like kind

977
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of mentors were the people that were in power when

978
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he was down with the church, and then once they

979
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get removed or once they die and they had other.

980
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Speaker 1: His loyalty as to the man, not the institution. The institution. Yeah,

981
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that makes sense.

982
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Speaker 3: So he was loyal, innocent, he was loyal to the

983
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other guy after him, and then after that, I think

984
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:19,920
he was just like, you know what I'm gonna roll now.

985
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be funny too if he got just

986
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like disenchanted with the church because he was so close

987
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,440
to it and grew up to it, and he's like,

988
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,679
I they're not trying to get the answers the right way.

989
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:32,400
I'm gonna try to get the answers the way I

990
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,239
think is the right way. They're old, they're dumb, they

991
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don't do it right. They just sit there and pray

992
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,119
and blah blah blah. Like we need to get fucking messy,

993
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:43,000
we need to get in the weeds. Right.

994
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 3: He saw everything the Catholic Church was doing, so he

995
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,719
was too close to the situation. Yeah that he knew

996
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,239
all of kind of their faults and he's like, they're

997
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,079
not willing to go there.

998
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not willing to do what you need to

999
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do to get the answers. We need.

1000
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,679
Speaker 3: They're not trying to capture souls.

1001
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: They're not trying that. It was like, dud, have you

1002
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:02,840
ever even tried to see it? Soul? You never even

1003
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tried to see it exists, but you never try to

1004
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:05,039
see it?

1005
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:05,639
Speaker 3: The fuck?

1006
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean to a certain extent that makes sense and

1007
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:12,880
it being annoyed they have to make Freda isn't metaphysical,

1008
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,000
he's a little bit of it. Better? What meta? What physical? Metaphysical?

1009
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 3: See, he's a physical I need to be able to

1010
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:18,519
see it.

1011
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Freda is nothing.

1012
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:21,559
Speaker 3: What do you think they don't want to use these

1013
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:23,280
birds of prey as weapons of war?

1014
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just sweet. Honestly, human hunting with birds is

1015
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,239
I'm not I can't hate on that.

1016
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,559
Speaker 3: Or stitching the birds to a human. Make him need

1017
00:51:31,639 --> 00:51:33,599
to be done? Yeah, make him flat?

1018
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah that that also like he didn't do the experiments

1019
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:38,719
I would do.

1020
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Speaker 3: I bet he was trying to make like little giraffes

1021
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and little little elephants too.

1022
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:49,079
Speaker 1: Again, I'm fine with that, breeding pigmy dirafts and pigmy

1023
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:50,400
elephants so you can have him as a pet in

1024
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your house.

1025
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,159
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's like, what if we make this third

1026
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:54,119
half smaller?

1027
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:56,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, make you don't have to prune your bushes anymore

1028
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,679
because the giraffe does.

1029
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,679
Speaker 3: I want him to fit in my bedroom.

1030
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Speaker 1: Chain this.

1031
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,199
Speaker 3: I want to sleep in a bed with the giraffe

1032
00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:05,800
A little bit, little bit of that's a noble cause.

1033
00:52:06,519 --> 00:52:08,519
Speaker 1: I'm there for that. I'm all for that.

1034
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:14,119
Speaker 3: But once you stop providing toddlers and children with love

1035
00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:17,719
and affection, maybe not. Maybe he's trying to create also

1036
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,760
like another like soulless army. I mean, if they make

1037
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,760
it out of that, you know, they have their own communication,

1038
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,159
they become fucking deadly. As like I said, I've said

1039
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:30,719
this a lot before, but like a group of hitmen. Yeah,

1040
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:36,000
like it's something something horrific is like one percent more

1041
00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:38,480
forgivable if there's at least like a.

1042
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: Semi coherent goal to it. It's still horrific, but it's like, Okay,

1043
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,760
I can at least see your logic train like you

1044
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,760
deserve to rotten hell, but like I can at least

1045
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:54,239
like see what you were thinking like other people just

1046
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,559
like you don't there was nothing there. What are you doing?

1047
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: Didn't the KGB do that with kids? What to create?

1048
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:02,719
Kind of like Assassin?

1049
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,679
Speaker 1: Probably, I don't know. I mean, there is like the

1050
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:08,119
whole plot to Black Widow, Black Widow, and to a

1051
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:10,039
lot of other things too. It's just like it's a

1052
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:13,599
it's like a very common cold eratrope is like.

1053
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 3: So there's gotta be smoke there.

1054
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: Probably, I mean they're fucking.

1055
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 3: Probably had programs that made just deadly soulless children.

1056
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: Yea, do like the spartan thing, just like taking kids

1057
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,559
and training you.

1058
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably who's today's Hitler?

1059
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: It's proto Hitler here, it's fucking.

1060
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 3: Who's today's Antichrist?

1061
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, he's a fucking monster. And again,

1062
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,280
I think we need to start determining the difference between

1063
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,679
information and knowledge.

1064
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: At least he's not just doing this for fun, right,

1065
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:54,199
there were plenty of kings and royals that would probably

1066
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,320
just torture.

1067
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, I mean that does make him a little

1068
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,960
bit better, not good, not deemable, but like like one

1069
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,039
percent batter that. It's like, well, you had goals.

1070
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,079
Speaker 3: It was in the quest. He had some type of

1071
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:11,320
something he was trying to achieve. Yeah, it wasn't just

1072
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,480
for the entertainment.

1073
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: You had goals, and in some way maybe someone should

1074
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,559
have said something and they did.

1075
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 3: Maybe the Pope maybe said something ex communicate him so

1076
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:22,840
twice for.

1077
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: Literally doing that. So yeah, we tried. We tried to

1078
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,400
talk to him. Fucking dickhead.

1079
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,119
Speaker 3: He was rolling with the sorcerers, he's rolling with the Muslims.

1080
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,039
Maybe his brain got kind of uh infiltrated, Yeah, by

1081
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:41,039
the wrong, by the dark magic as a as he

1082
00:54:41,159 --> 00:54:44,039
was the chosen one. There's a great line in innocent

1083
00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:45,480
wasn't alive enough to say that.

1084
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: That's true? Yeah, and his all his gentors are dead too,

1085
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,519
So he loved you.

1086
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 3: Frederick, You're a brother, Frederick, You're the chosen one.

1087
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: I have found you, Frederick, I have failed you.

1088
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,159
Speaker 3: Man.

1089
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,159
Speaker 1: That's the better trilogy. It is. No one quotes the original.

1090
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: The best scene in all of Star Wars. Yeah, easily

1091
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,599
the best scene in any of that by fucking far.

1092
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,480
And it's all you and McGregor.

1093
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: Yep, he rules. I love you McGregor.

1094
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:18,639
Speaker 3: Would you learn today?

1095
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: Uh? I actually, well I don't know that. I did

1096
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,920
we do an episode on ancient stuff like this before

1097
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,599
where they did this in ancient times too. People just

1098
00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:36,440
like doing weird medical, hard air quote medical things.

1099
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,639
Speaker 3: That would have been a U episode.

1100
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:40,199
Speaker 1: So probably so maybe we did. I just I learned

1101
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:45,119
that man's quest for knowledge has been going on for

1102
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:48,079
a long time, the demon within. Yeah, I really, I

1103
00:55:48,119 --> 00:55:53,440
just learned that, like, boy, medical experimentation not great, been

1104
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,039
going on for a long time, longer than you think.

1105
00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:58,199
Because this is like people don't think of eleven ninety

1106
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,920
or twelve. He was doing these experiments probably what twelve twenties.

1107
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,280
One would imagine. People don't think of the twelve hundreds

1108
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:10,159
and think anyone even thinks about quote unquote medically experimenting,

1109
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,559
Like the to word medical doesn't even fucking clock in

1110
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:15,800
your brain for the twelve hundreds.

1111
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 3: I mean they were fucking around leeches. Yeah, they were

1112
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,320
doing When you do have that kind of thought in

1113
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,239
your head, you are thinking of like a medicine man

1114
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,400
or like a somebody that's on their court. What is

1115
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,599
it in Game of Thrones where they were like you

1116
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:36,960
think like mastery. Yeah yeah, so maybe some magic stuff,

1117
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,599
but yeah, guys just mixing matching some some potions together.

1118
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: Right, you don't think of like s I mean, but

1119
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,840
we've been doing surgery since probably no, not probably, we

1120
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,079
have been human beings. Surgery is older than writing. It

1121
00:56:50,199 --> 00:56:52,119
is on a presentary. If he didn't know that, so

1122
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:54,639
it makes sense, but I know you still, I don't

1123
00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:56,199
know if I learned anything so much as I was,

1124
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,280
other than everything just about this guy, because I didn't

1125
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,920
know anything about him. But like I would just run

1126
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,400
minded of we've always been cutting ourselves open.

1127
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:09,079
Speaker 3: Yep, well that's our episode on Frederick the Second. I'm

1128
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:11,840
sure we could probably dive deeper into his life on

1129
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,880
the Patreon. At patreon dot com slast software History, where

1130
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,400
you get two additional episodes every week. We've been putting

1131
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,480
out some fire lately. Goddamn right, Spooky Moth, a lot

1132
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,679
of episodes behind the paywall. We should be having a

1133
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,920
guest that has not been on the show before next week.

1134
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,719
First stay tuned somebody you know if you have followed

1135
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,159
us from the TFM days the TFM days. But yeah,

1136
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,000
that's all I got today. Make sure to leave a

1137
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,960
review five stars please and thank you Spotify. All you

1138
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,039
have to do is leave the five stars. Apple, please

1139
00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:47,320
write a review. Maybe next week we will read some

1140
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,000
of the better ones if we do get enough reviews

1141
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:54,360
at the end of the episode. And uh software history

1142
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,559
dot com for merch we still need to revamp the store,

1143
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,400
but there's plenty of good stuff in there if you

1144
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:05,960
want to get some tea and yeah, man, that's pretty

1145
00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:07,760
much all I got. Although actually I do want to

1146
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,480
talk about something that I found out. I don't know

1147
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:14,599
any other place to talk about it, all right, so

1148
00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:17,920
I shall say I and Carrol, he's this kind of

1149
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,559
conspiracy guy on Twitter and everything. We found out the

1150
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:27,199
reason for McDonald's ice cream machine problems.

1151
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,519
Speaker 1: Oh what is it?

1152
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,599
Speaker 3: So there's this company called Taylor which supplies every McDonald's

1153
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:36,679
franchiser with their ice cream.

1154
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: Isine, the soft serve, the mt We're not talking Mcflurri's.

1155
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,559
We're talking like soft serving the cone.

1156
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:46,079
Speaker 3: Typical ice cream machine, the McDonald's ice cream Maine. I

1157
00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:48,119
think it makes all of it, okay, fair enough whatever,

1158
00:58:48,239 --> 00:58:51,239
So soft Serve mcflaur is everything. The reason why it's

1159
00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:53,239
always broken is.

1160
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: By design, as in, so they can sell more, as.

1161
00:58:57,679 --> 00:59:00,639
Speaker 3: In the company that makes the ice c machine that

1162
00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:05,360
has that every McDonald's has to buy like it was required, right,

1163
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,679
they designed a flawed machine.

1164
00:59:08,679 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: In order to make those McDonald's buy more.

1165
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: Of them, not buy more, but constantly fixing it.

1166
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Speaker 1: Okay, so part need more parts and everything there, and

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they're the only supplier of the part.

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Speaker 3: So this company makes seventy five million dollars a year

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and this is all court documented, yeah, because they're currently getting.

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Speaker 1: Sued by McDonald's by McDonald's owners.

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Speaker 3: So there was another company that created a kind of

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fix all for the machine, an adapter that you kind

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of plugged in and then it went through like a

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smart app. Yeah, and you could fix the machine without

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having to call the guy oh wow from Tailor. Uh,

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so you could fix the machine. It cured. It was

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a cure all for everything. And uh obviously this pissed

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off Tailor because the.

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Speaker 1: Racket it got going.

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Speaker 3: They had a seventy five million dollars a year and

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just fixing the machines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, profit like parts and maintenance and stuff like.

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Speaker 3: For maintenance, yeah, because which is insane. So like that

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it became a meme, right, like the fucking McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a huge meme.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this company sold sabotage machines in order to fix

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them and just collect money for years.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, fuck Taylor for real.

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Speaker 3: Like so it's it's in the courts now because they

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they were trying to steal the in or the kind

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of technology from this third party that created an adapter

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to kill it problem so they could steal it and

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then yeah, kill it or like come up with a

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solution to even like sabotage that. So yeah, Ian Carroll's

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the guy on Twitter. He does a lot of crazy

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conspiracy ship. But this is like proven, Yeah, this is

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like actual, this is currently going through the legal process.

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Speaker 1: That's really fucking funny.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and as we say, he since he's a conspiracy

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theorist and got one thing right, we're gonna have to

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believe everything everything he says now, yeah, yeah, it doesn't

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matter how many other insane things. That's like, well we

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go to mcdoulton, right, So I mean who knows.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a trusted source. He's just trying to

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get wisdom, knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Not information, just the truth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, man, for just the second was really

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just kind of maybe just the original, not not theorist,

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but conspiracsy.

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Speaker 1: He's just like, I don't know, I don't know what

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he is. Again, he's almost like a health influencer, right,

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like what like a shady one that tells you all

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dumb things like yeah, man, the toxins and it's almost

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like an Aaron, like if Aaron Rodgers was king of

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the Holy Roman Empire, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

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my mud crystals really helped me out, and you can

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see the soul if we took this island man and

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trapped him in a box for eight days and finally

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saw his soul.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm trying to think of the fucking

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like the health guru that I'm blanking on Zam. It

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doesn't matter the guy that got busted for having like

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all those mistresses and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh I don't even know.

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Speaker 3: I have a couple of months back that could be

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anyone I know, and it only it only made him

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more rat and cool. Yeah yeah, yeah, but it's some

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some he said, some wild ship and we're like, are

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we sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably this, but yeah if nothing is going to

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like finding out someone is a piece of ship but

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in an extremely virile way, is not going to hurt

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their health brand, especially like their men's internet health brand.

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Speaker 3: No, no, so uh yeah that's the episode for today.

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Thanks for tuning in, We love you guys, and for

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rough Fox. I'm damn Chester and you just got saw

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served