Speaker 1: Ten nine Ignition six five four three two one zero,
Speaker 1: All engine running.
Speaker 2: It's Wednesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Speaker 2: Ignition with the aw fan Hub community podcast team. This
Speaker 2: is Kelson and Tonight we have got Dynamite three hundred.
Speaker 2: Can't believe that it's been three hundred matches, three hundred
Speaker 2: episodes of Dynamite, three hundred matches. I think it's been
Speaker 2: a little bit more than that. How's everybody doing tonight?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 2: Right, Let's yeah, let's yeah, let's let's talk about this show.
Speaker 2: We usually don't do previews, but this is a big deal.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the match card. There's only what
Speaker 2: three matches announced really right now, but they're all something
Speaker 2: and the first one we're going to talk about is
Speaker 2: Mercedes Monet and Mina shir Kaala for the AW TBS Championship.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're only what ten days away from all
Speaker 2: in and we're having a championship match. Guys, do any
Speaker 2: of you give Mina shir Kaala a chance at winning
Speaker 2: the TBS Championship? Tonight? I knew that was Steve. Steve,
Speaker 2: why do you give her? Give Mina a chance? I
Speaker 2: think it's time for money to lose a belt. All right,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm sore you posted something earlier about the
Speaker 2: CMLL Championship that Mercedes just won with zeus Is. Could
Speaker 2: you share that with people that that maybe didn't hear
Speaker 2: what what you posted?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Zeuxi's just had meniscus surgery. I'm not sure what
Speaker 4: her time is out. I think it's kind of up
Speaker 4: in the air right now, but I guess she had
Speaker 4: been working with an injury, so maybe that's part of
Speaker 4: the reason why they decided to switch. H that's the
Speaker 4: MLLL belt. But yeah, on the topic, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go ahead on a limb and say that Mina
Speaker 4: pulls the Christian like upset over Kenny Omega with the
Speaker 4: Impact title and actually wins the title tomorrow just because
Speaker 4: number one, they've already faced each other a couple of
Speaker 4: times this year. Seems like a possibility of creating a
Speaker 4: lot of intrigue. Nina's a good matchup for a lot
Speaker 4: of the rosters. She's really easy to work. All you
Speaker 4: have to do is bump. Mercedes is certainly not so. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and also I think it creates more intrigue going into
Speaker 4: all in.
Speaker 5: I think she doesn't have that main belt.
Speaker 2: They faced each other. Mina and Mercedes faced each other
Speaker 2: on January fifth. I believe it was at Russell Dream
Speaker 2: in Japan. Was that that's correct? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4: They also had the three way and I think it
Speaker 4: was Los Angeles for where Mercedes lost the new Japan title.
Speaker 4: Mina got pinned by a Zumi?
Speaker 2: Right? But did that match on January fifth? Correct me
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong? Isn't that also the match that was
Speaker 2: title versus title? Was it not? That's where Mercedes actually
Speaker 2: won the British World Championship Queen the south Side, Yeah right, Jess,
Speaker 2: you said that you had your pick. What do you think?
Speaker 6: Y'all's optimism? But I don't think it's gonna happen. I
Speaker 6: think AW spent way too much time cultivating this Tony
Speaker 6: versus Mona match, and I don't think the plans are
Speaker 6: going to It'd be an interesting surprise, but I don't
Speaker 6: think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, let's go to you.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say she is because it's Dynamite three hundred
Speaker 3: something big has to happen. They are a pretty good
Speaker 3: go so I don't see why not. Uh it would
Speaker 3: be a good gateway for her to start losing belots
Speaker 3: and for her to go a little bit crazy, and
Speaker 3: it would pitch up the match better.
Speaker 2: I would say that, Yeah, yeah, what about you, Sutton.
Speaker 7: I kind of agree with what MK said there at
Speaker 7: the end, But I don't see her losing it. It's
Speaker 7: just they like I said before, I said it a
Speaker 7: dozen times, Tony Cohn's not going to have her to
Speaker 7: lose until she breaks the number of matches.
Speaker 5: Won in a row by uh Cardio. It's just not
Speaker 5: gonna happen.
Speaker 7: I don't even think she's gonna lose to Tony.
Speaker 1: Oh don't.
Speaker 5: Okay, No, I don't wonder to win.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 7: I wanted to lose all the belts as soon as
Speaker 7: possible because she needs to.
Speaker 5: But it's just that's.
Speaker 7: Tony's got it in his head that that's what he's
Speaker 7: gonna do, and I'm Tony, that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: At least that's the way I see it.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw something at you
Speaker 2: guys really quick, and I'm gonna give you a history lesson.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna blow your minds. This is dynamite three hundred,
Speaker 2: which was preceded by Dynamite two fifty, and that was
Speaker 2: preceded by Dynamite two hundred. Okay, Now, Dynamite two hundred
Speaker 2: happened on August second, twenty twenty three. The main event
Speaker 2: of that show, maybe you remember it was Timeless Tone,
Speaker 2: not Timeless. It was Tony Storman with the Outcast at
Speaker 2: that time, against Karl Sheeta for the AW Women's World Championship.
Speaker 2: Do you remember who won that match? Tony Carlosheda won
Speaker 2: that won that match. This was Dynamite two hundred. Karlsheda
Speaker 2: wins the match. Now here's the thing. This match took place,
Speaker 2: Oh god, what was it twenty five days before the
Speaker 2: first all In at Wembley Stadium. Kakarlsheda only held that
Speaker 2: belt for twenty five days. We know what happened at
Speaker 2: all In at Wembley Stadium because Soireya won the title. Now,
Speaker 2: now Sirea only held the title for well for forty
Speaker 2: four days and then lost the title back to Kikarusheeda.
Speaker 2: But right there is proof that something big will happen
Speaker 2: at Dynamite three hundred. Do you want more proof, Let's
Speaker 2: look at Dynamite two fifty. Dynamite two fifty featured a
Speaker 2: w International champion, Will Ospray against defending his championship against MJF.
Speaker 2: Do you remember who won that match? Osprey. MJF defeated
Speaker 2: Will Osprey became the new International champion, went he held
Speaker 2: the title for thirty nine days, went to Wembley Stadium
Speaker 2: and lost to I think it was Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: back to will Ospray, I believe, and then Osprey eventually
Speaker 2: lost at the Takeshta for Takesha's one. The thing I'm
Speaker 2: saying here is that the precedence is there. This match
Speaker 2: between Mercedes Money and Mina Shirkaw is the only match
Speaker 2: on the Dynamite three hundred card that has a title
Speaker 2: associated with I believe that Mina does defeat Mercedes Monet
Speaker 2: becomes the new TBS champion at Dynamite three hundred, and
Speaker 2: I think this is a good move because look, as
Speaker 2: Thomas war said, I don't believe that Mercedes Mona was
Speaker 2: ever supposed to win the CMLL Women's title. Was kind
Speaker 2: of done by necessity, you know what I mean. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I just really think that Mercedes is going to lose
Speaker 2: the TBS title at Dynamite three hundred, and it's good storytelling. Look,
Speaker 2: let's assume that Mercedes. Let's just say hypothetically, the Mercedes
Speaker 2: beats Mina sheer Cow at Tynamite three hundred, goes on
Speaker 2: to all In, and then we have Mercedes against Tony Storm.
Speaker 2: Whoever wins that match, Who's who's left to face them?
Speaker 2: There's nobody left. They've got to do something to shake
Speaker 2: things up here. They got to shake it up exactly.
Speaker 7: I agree, one hundred percent. But Tony Kahn not always
Speaker 7: had the greatest track record of shaking things up the
Speaker 7: way you think he should. So, like I said, I'd
Speaker 7: love to see Mina win the title, I'd like to
Speaker 7: see Tony Keith the title it all in.
Speaker 5: I just I just got this feeling that he's.
Speaker 7: Done everything to make sure that Mina or that Monette
Speaker 7: has a spotless record and gets every title she gets
Speaker 7: a chance at. So I just I don't know, I
Speaker 7: just see him keeping it on her.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense for me to have her win
Speaker 3: Tony Storm. I mean, you don't. There's a b big,
Speaker 3: this big, huge feud and then have Tony Storm loose
Speaker 3: because no, I mean, the more and plus this is
Speaker 3: something that she's always always one. It was a few
Speaker 3: between these two. I think she's willing to put over Monet,
Speaker 3: so we'll we'll see what happens. But I disagree with Sutton.
Speaker 2: The thing that I can say is that if we
Speaker 2: do see what we do see Mercedes versus Tony Storm,
Speaker 2: do you guys, I'm just gonna throw it out there
Speaker 2: to you guys, do you see this as a one
Speaker 2: and done match or do you could kind of see
Speaker 2: you know, Mercedes born A versus Tony Storm one, two
Speaker 2: and three.
Speaker 6: I think it all depends on how this goes over.
Speaker 6: Like if they jel really well and have like an
Speaker 6: amazing match that tears the house down, I don't see
Speaker 6: any reason not to run it back. But if it
Speaker 6: just turns out that it just sort of underperforms, I mean,
Speaker 6: I don't think it'll be a horrible match, just given
Speaker 6: how good the two of them are, But sometimes people
Speaker 6: just don't gell and them. That's okay, But.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree. I don't, but I don't
Speaker 3: see it as good as it was with Mariah ma
Speaker 3: A and Antony'stim. Those two had chemistry. I don't see
Speaker 3: Monette having chemistry. Many people and.
Speaker 8: In a w right now, I was thinking maybe the
Speaker 8: next person in line would be Megan Baine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've already done that.
Speaker 7: The only person on the roster that Monett seems to
Speaker 7: have unbelievable chemistry with is hardly That's it.
Speaker 5: Everybody else she seems to, you know, it's.
Speaker 2: It almost.
Speaker 5: Maybe Artie could be the one that could take it
Speaker 5: off her, but then, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well let me throw this at you, Sutton. Okay.
Speaker 2: Regardless of wins the Storm and More Mercedes Monette match,
Speaker 2: we also have to take into account that the loser
Speaker 2: of that match may then go on to get a
Speaker 2: tag team partner and become very much in play for
Speaker 2: the aw's women's tag team titles, which I think is
Speaker 2: a foregone conclusion right now that that's going to happen
Speaker 2: very very soon.
Speaker 7: Oh, you're completely right, and and that would be a
Speaker 7: very interesting way to do things.
Speaker 5: It's just it's one of those things.
Speaker 7: Where it is very there's a lot of what could
Speaker 7: what could happen, what might not happen, what could happen,
Speaker 7: you know, that kind of thing. This is one of
Speaker 7: those coming up matches the next ten days It's really
Speaker 7: kind of intriguing because you.
Speaker 5: Really don't know what's going to happen in that match.
Speaker 7: Going into matches in the past, we've known, you know,
Speaker 7: we pretty much get figure out who's going to be.
Speaker 7: There's no clue this could go either way. So at
Speaker 7: least that's one thing that's different about all In for
Speaker 7: this match especially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the other things, and this is kind
Speaker 2: of a little bit off topic, but I think that
Speaker 2: it is pertinent. Suri from Stardom has announced that she
Speaker 2: is taking an excursion from stardom and basically going to
Speaker 2: the United States. Well, she didn't say the United States.
Speaker 2: She set overseas to better herself, which is kind of
Speaker 2: a ridiculous statement because Suri has got almost seventeen years
Speaker 2: worth of wrestling experience. It was sureI that defeated Mayu Iwatani,
Speaker 2: and I believe it was April, ending Mayuatani's two year
Speaker 2: title reign with the IWGP Women's Championship, which had previously
Speaker 2: been held by Mercedes Monet h At previous to that
Speaker 2: by Carrie Sane. Serie did beat Sury last month forty
Speaker 2: IWGP champions so Sure he had a little bit of
Speaker 2: a shorter reign. She does have a couple of nagging
Speaker 2: injuries that she's got to battle through. Nothing serious for
Speaker 2: what I read, but sure he is going overseas for
Speaker 2: an excursion. Sure he is. One of her last matches
Speaker 2: with the title, the i w GP title was in
Speaker 2: England against Alex Windsor. She defended successfully against Alex Windsor.
Speaker 2: She has history with her former tag team partner, Surrey's
Speaker 2: former championship tag team partner, Hikaru Shida. There's a team
Speaker 2: right there for you. If she does on her way
Speaker 2: back and she got she at her visa taken care of,
Speaker 2: there's another team Shida and Surrey. Holy shit, you know,
Speaker 2: so the ball's rolling. Plus you gotta look at shry
Speaker 2: I mean, seventeen years of wrestling experience, former IWGP champion,
Speaker 2: former World of Stardom champion, which is the Stardom's World champion.
Speaker 2: She's no joke. She's not one of those cute little Joshies.
Speaker 2: She's one of those I'm gonna kill you Josie's. She's
Speaker 2: like Samoa, Joe and Joshi Born. So keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of cool stuff that can happen, starting
Speaker 2: with Mina Sirkawa Mercedes Monet at Dynamite three hundred. I
Speaker 2: am convinced. I am one hundred percent convinced, not one
Speaker 2: hundred I'd say about eighty five percent convinced that meeting
Speaker 2: Shikawa is walking out of Dynamite three hundred is the
Speaker 2: new AWTBS Champion because I just think that opens up
Speaker 2: so many doors for story elsewhere with Mercedes and even
Speaker 2: Tony Storm and some of these women that are coming in,
Speaker 2: like Alex Winsor. Now think about it, Mina shir Kawa
Speaker 2: wins the TBS Championship on July second, Forbidden Door at
Speaker 2: the O two Arena is right around the corner. You know,
Speaker 2: it's next month who won the rep Pro title and
Speaker 2: the Queen of Southside title in England. Minashira Kawa, She's
Speaker 2: known there, She's appreciated there. Alex Winsor absolutely appreciated there.
Speaker 2: There's your match for Forbidden Door may even throw you know,
Speaker 2: somebody else in. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think I think one of the things that we
Speaker 7: need to look at and say this year is everybody
Speaker 7: always saying that Forbidden Door season is the time where
Speaker 7: AW takes a break from things. But if you look
Speaker 7: at it the way you can. With everything that's going
Speaker 7: on right now, there are so many storylines that could
Speaker 7: come out after all in leading to Forbidden Door, that
Speaker 7: this might be one of the most interesting Forbidden Doors
Speaker 7: they've ever had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean I wanted to want to
Speaker 2: call the Forbidden Door seasons the great momentum Killers. I mean,
Speaker 2: AW gets on a roll, and AW is on a
Speaker 2: roll right now, yep, okay, And my biggest worry is
Speaker 2: that after all in for the next month or so,
Speaker 2: AW is going to concentrate. I'm building up Forbidden Door,
Speaker 2: which doesn't need any building up. I'm sorry, but it doesn't.
Speaker 2: It's a glorified exhibition show. You don't need to. You
Speaker 2: stay the course, do your storylines, and continue what you're doing.
Speaker 2: People are gonna watch for Bidden Door, not for I
Speaker 2: don't think any kind of build up towards Forbidden Door
Speaker 2: unless it's for a major championship, you know. I just
Speaker 2: don't think that you need to do build I don't
Speaker 2: know if you guys agree with me or not. I
Speaker 2: just don't think you need to spend that time building
Speaker 2: up for Bidden Door. You're either gonna buy it or
Speaker 2: you're not.
Speaker 7: I think the thing is with this year, you actually
Speaker 7: have storylines that can build to that and not lose
Speaker 7: momentum because after the Kenny Omega match and Okata, then
Speaker 7: you've got Daquesta and you've got other people that you
Speaker 7: could face it Forbidden Door that would not take it
Speaker 7: out of the story.
Speaker 5: Like you said, You've got.
Speaker 7: Mina and that whole thing for the uh TBS title.
Speaker 7: I mean there's a lot you could still build towards
Speaker 7: Forbidden Door without causing any momentum change, and it, like
Speaker 7: I said, it could be the most exciting Forbidden Door
Speaker 7: we've ever had because it's in London.
Speaker 2: And if you have met to Shirakawa, go at the
Speaker 2: Forbidden Door as the TBS champion. There's all kinds of
Speaker 2: rivalries that she has built at startup that makes sense,
Speaker 2: you know for a match there, Steve, you have something
Speaker 2: to say? Because uh, I think we uh covered at all.
Speaker 8: I'm ready for the next topic.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, okay, like just your you're The reason I
Speaker 2: said that is because your microphone was really on just
Speaker 2: then and I didn't know whether you had something to
Speaker 2: say or not. Okay, Yeah, So I mean, look, when
Speaker 2: it comes to Dynamite three hundred. I think the most
Speaker 2: intriguing match for me personally is me to share Cower
Speaker 2: Mercedes Bonet because it is the only title match. But
Speaker 2: then we have another match Kazuska a kado Akada and
Speaker 2: Coodo Bushi. Good lord, this is what they're seventh match.
Speaker 2: I'm not a student of the of their their series,
Speaker 2: but I think it's their seventh. Uh do you guys
Speaker 2: see anything happening here? Of course, Acata is going on
Speaker 2: in ten days to face Kenny Omega for the Unified title.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: I seem a great watch in our future. These two
Speaker 6: are amazing. We got a little taste of what they
Speaker 6: can do. Imagine what it's going to be like when
Speaker 6: they get when they have the time to really open
Speaker 6: it up. It's gonna be so good. And I bet
Speaker 6: it's gonna be some angle at the end, you know,
Speaker 6: some shenanigans, and we just may get a dramatic rescue.
Speaker 3: Kenny's coming back.
Speaker 6: Yep, exactly who you think dramatic rescue?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Kenny's gonna be coming back holding his
Speaker 2: abdomen and Excalibur is gonna excl exclaim that Kenny had
Speaker 2: four inches to six feet of his intestines removed, and
Speaker 2: it just depends on how how Excalibur is feeling. Uh
Speaker 2: on that my three? Yeah it maybe you know they
Speaker 2: replaced his h they stretched out as esophag has replaced,
Speaker 2: replaced his contests with this stretched out gat. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're really cammering that up. It's it's almost like, I
Speaker 2: don't know how you guys feel about what EXCaliber talks about.
Speaker 2: The diverticulitis that Kenny Omega has. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: a running gag by now don't you think a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Kenny Omega may explode any second.
Speaker 3: H that's the way it seems.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you can go ahead, no good, No, you can.
Speaker 7: You can push something like this a bit, but it's
Speaker 7: got to die. Sometimes you've got to stop it and
Speaker 7: stop worrying about it, because then you just make it
Speaker 7: seem like he's doing it for the you know, he's
Speaker 7: doing it just because he wants.
Speaker 5: Everybody feel bad for him. That's the way I look
Speaker 5: at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you do feel bad for him,
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, it's kind of funny to me that,
Speaker 2: you know, Excalibur has changed the distance or the amount
Speaker 2: of intestines that Kenny Omega's had to move, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like, let's see, for dramatic effect,
Speaker 2: I think we should say, if you take out the
Speaker 2: uh someone's intestines and stretch it out or or reach
Speaker 2: up to the top of the Empire State Building, well,
Speaker 2: Kenny Omega had the first thirty four floors removed. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm just like, come on, you know, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 9: It's like, you know, just just be consistent, because indeed,
Speaker 9: if you go back and you watch Kenny Omega matches
Speaker 9: what Excalibur has said, he has said a few different things.
Speaker 6: Well, it's just like this cage is like on the
Speaker 6: top of a fifty foot high steel k twenty five
Speaker 6: feet tall at most.
Speaker 2: Question about this match, of course, because this is not
Speaker 2: a title match. The only title match is Mina and
Speaker 2: Mercedes on on Dynamite three hundred. Does I personally don't
Speaker 2: feel like this is going to be a clean finish
Speaker 2: to this match? Does do any of you guys think
Speaker 2: this is going to be a clean finish? No?
Speaker 6: Calas family, Yeah, Don Don Kellas might come O.
Speaker 2: Might.
Speaker 5: He'll be out there for them, He'll be out there
Speaker 5: for them.
Speaker 2: I would say that, I would say that Rocky Romero
Speaker 2: might come out, Lance Archer, Don Kallas, Kyle Fletcher, they
Speaker 2: are all going to be out there. You know. It's
Speaker 2: like it's just the Rocky Romero maybe out, maybe out.
Speaker 2: You know, I think the attire Don Kallas is. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be like watching the outcasts again. Remember when the
Speaker 2: outcasts were at their so called height, you know, they
Speaker 2: all three, all of them, would come out to the ring,
Speaker 2: Tony Storm, who are the outcast? Tony Storm, Ruby Soho
Speaker 2: sore Sorea was that it. Yeah, every every match, they
Speaker 2: would trot out all three of the outcasts, you know,
Speaker 2: to face I don't know, Willow Nightingale and here comes
Speaker 2: little Nightingale, all by your lonesome, you know. And that's
Speaker 2: kind of where I'm thinking this is going. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be Kodo Bougie against pretty much the entire Don Kallas family.
Speaker 2: There's no way.
Speaker 7: That's why you don't have a clean finish, because if
Speaker 7: you have a clean finish, you have no reason for Kennedy.
Speaker 2: To come back.
Speaker 6: Yes, through every single member of the Don Kallus family,
Speaker 6: powered by the power of love.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 7: Oh my God, the music's to come on. It's gonna
Speaker 7: be Huey Lose's Power of Love. So I'm gonna start
Speaker 7: playing when he's gonna come out.
Speaker 2: Correction Golden Love, gold Lovers. Yeah, oh my god, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be hilarious.
Speaker 3: And they, I mean, it can be Kenny and some
Speaker 3: other people too. I don't know. I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 3: have to bring more people with him, so I don't
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: You know, he's best friends coming out Brisco. He'll be
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh, he is a single handed rescue. It's more romantic
Speaker 6: that way.
Speaker 3: No, we don't need Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 2: I did. I don't even know how the term golden
Speaker 2: lovers even came into effect. I really don't. But maybe
Speaker 2: it has a different meaning or connotation in Japan than
Speaker 2: it does in the United States. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you saw it, but Kenny Omega during Pride Month,
Speaker 2: which was last month, even said he even said, Hey,
Speaker 2: if people look at golden lovers as you know, an
Speaker 2: LBG TQ thing, I'm fine with that, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: happy for that, you know so, But because it does son,
Speaker 2: I mean, you think golden lovers, you think you know,
Speaker 2: you know, the whole bathing thing.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, just as a side note on that, just
Speaker 6: for this, This is from my memory of an interview
Speaker 6: I read once like he's been always been very cagey
Speaker 6: on the exact connotations of his and Coda's relationship and
Speaker 6: his own orientation, although he did once say when questioned,
Speaker 6: I'm as straight as my hair. He has a very
Speaker 6: famous poodle mop on his head, so make of that
Speaker 6: what you will.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what he is. But well, if you
Speaker 2: listen to Jim Cornett, Kenny Omegaz, you know into underage
Speaker 2: Japanese school girls, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I.
Speaker 2: Has said my my a w dream matches, you know,
Speaker 2: Riho against Jim Cornett with Machio as the special guest
Speaker 2: Reber just get it done. And people got pissed at
Speaker 2: me for saying that because, like Cord so many years,
Speaker 2: it's a joke. Idiots. No, No, I want to see that.
Speaker 2: I do too. I want to see you you know.
Speaker 6: The sense of humor.
Speaker 2: Don't don't slip, don't sleep on reheld guys. I said
Speaker 2: it before and I'll say it again. Rio would kill
Speaker 2: me sudden, I'm sorry, but she'd kill you too. Because
Speaker 2: they were old and slow. Eddie Kingston, come on.
Speaker 5: I gotta give it to Eddie, take me out too.
Speaker 2: I'm just no, I just sweep the leg and beat
Speaker 2: him up while he is did the ten minutes and
Speaker 2: tall get back up.
Speaker 7: But you wouldn't survive the machine gun chopped in the corner.
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, that's true. I'd probably laugh myself to death,
Speaker 2: exhaust myself.
Speaker 8: But what what that? What the hell are you doing?
Speaker 8: Why are you slapping? Stop slapping yourself? Stop slapping yourself.
Speaker 8: You're slapping yourself.
Speaker 2: Slap Oh my god, that was I still look at
Speaker 2: that video of him doing the machine gun chops. The
Speaker 2: Claudio casting Noli and they did a close up of
Speaker 2: it and machine gun chop number seventy five. Claudio was
Speaker 2: selling his ass off, did not get hit once. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Enny Kingston looked like he was having welts on his body.
Speaker 2: He was hitting himself so hard. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: at least he's, you know, dedicated the to the to
Speaker 2: the spot. I guess it's just it's the most ridiculous
Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 10: But yeah, so back to a Coda Okkoda Ocada and
Speaker 10: Abousie so I guess we all agree that this is
Speaker 10: not going to be a clean match, a clean finish.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a pretty uh, that's a that's
Speaker 6: a pretty shared opinion, I believe.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Howe's going very home.
Speaker 2: You don't see you go very long. There's only three
Speaker 2: matches on the show so far, so I know, but
Speaker 2: maybe it'll go a third of the show. Looks he's
Speaker 2: not had much action since coming back from his injury,
Speaker 2: so they've gotta do something, you know. But it's it's
Speaker 2: just gonna be good to see a Boushi in the ring,
Speaker 2: you know, and it gets the against the Kata of
Speaker 2: all people right after he comes back. You know. That's
Speaker 2: that's something, you know. Good for him, you know, and
Speaker 2: good for Okata. They need this. This is this is something,
Speaker 2: This is this is special.
Speaker 5: Watch for something.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Last week we saw Mark Briscoe, of all people,
Speaker 2: Mark Briscoe won the match to become the number one
Speaker 2: contender in UH for the Men's Casino Gauntlet. Well, Dynamite
Speaker 2: three hundred, we've got another four away match, this one
Speaker 2: to determine who is the number two person in the
Speaker 2: ring at all in for the Men's Casino Gauntlet. That
Speaker 2: matches between Brody King, MJF, aar Fox of all people,
Speaker 2: and and Anthony Bowens. Put you out the spot. Guys,
Speaker 2: I want to hear your picks. Who do you think
Speaker 2: is going to walk out as the number two man
Speaker 2: for all in Texas? Well?
Speaker 7: I'm assuming since they're trying to do a program between
Speaker 7: Risco and MJF, I'm assuming it's going to be MJF
Speaker 7: so they can have those two at it for a
Speaker 7: bit by themselves.
Speaker 2: Okay, I agree m JF.
Speaker 4: He's been also previewing programs with Osbry and Hangman everybody
Speaker 4: for a while, so.
Speaker 2: He's the favorite.
Speaker 6: I wanted to be Brodie King, but it's gonna be
Speaker 6: m j F.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, hop story. What do you think here? Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely uh him JF. I think's favorite. He also
Speaker 4: assuming Hangman wins. He has the preview feuds that have
Speaker 4: been set up ahead of time.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, how is he gonna go past Brody King? Man?
Speaker 1: He's pretty Yeah, he has a tough challenge in front
Speaker 1: of him.
Speaker 6: MJF is gonna win.
Speaker 7: Nah, He's gonna pin either ar Fox or uh prody
Speaker 7: King won't even won't even be in the match.
Speaker 5: Bones will either it will either be Bones or ar
Speaker 5: Fox in the loss.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't supply Yeah, like, I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 6: m J. F As He's hurt Syndicate Buddies take out
Speaker 6: Brodie King beforehand.
Speaker 2: Well, you know the way I look at it, and
Speaker 2: I'm just playing Devil's advocate here. Look, Mark Briscoe has
Speaker 2: been eating loss after loss after loss. It's almost at
Speaker 2: a point where it became become one of the other
Speaker 2: running jokes. Oh there's Mark bisco brisco he's eating the pin? Right?
Speaker 2: Who else is in that same category? Aar Fox loss
Speaker 2: after loss after loss and eating pins. Wouldn't it be something?
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be something? If aar Fox walked away with
Speaker 2: that spot, that would be awesome. Really did he go
Speaker 2: to the UK?
Speaker 4: Now that was the issue last time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, That's very true. Look, you know, one
Speaker 2: of the things I will say is that when you're
Speaker 2: looking at the Casino Gatlin matches, and you know, I
Speaker 2: may be off base here, but if you're preparing for
Speaker 2: a long match, you need somebody with known stamina in there. Uh.
Speaker 2: Mark brisco definitely can go a long time in a match.
Speaker 2: We know we know MGF. Can we know MJB at
Speaker 2: that Iron Man match with Brian Danielson, you know, a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, So we know that that MGF
Speaker 2: can go that way. Brody King maybe not. Of course,
Speaker 2: in these type of matches, these Casino Gatlin matches, a
Speaker 2: lot of times, a lot of the wrestlers spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time, you know, kneeling outside the ring from
Speaker 2: getting slapped in the face with a feather duster. So
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying that they get taken out
Speaker 2: by a simple slap and allow the people in the
Speaker 2: ring to get the moves. It is the best way
Speaker 2: to put it, you know. So, and I hope that
Speaker 2: they don't do that. I want to see this be
Speaker 2: an actual brawl. I want to see this be an
Speaker 2: all in, all out brawl, you know at the Pretty College.
Speaker 7: I just don't they get more than ten people in
Speaker 7: because they they haven't gone very far past ten people
Speaker 7: so well.
Speaker 2: The last one they they I think they went sixteen
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, but you're right, because they've only
Speaker 2: gone up maybe ten, eight to twelve. Well, which look,
Speaker 2: it adds to the you know, to the to the
Speaker 2: lust or look I've said it before and I'll say again.
Speaker 2: I am not a fan of multi man matches. I
Speaker 2: have a problem like things like blood and guts and anarchy,
Speaker 2: anarchy and the arena. But I just don't like when
Speaker 2: you have ten people out there and eight of them
Speaker 2: are just kneeling outside the ring for no reason whatsoever
Speaker 2: other than to obviously give the two people inside the
Speaker 2: ring a chance to get their moves in. You know,
Speaker 2: I just don't like that. I I think it's silly,
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's obvious and silly. So so
Speaker 2: I guess everybody, I guess the majority of us are
Speaker 2: saying that we expect MG have to win.
Speaker 6: Yep, yep, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Do you guys, based on what happened at Collision, do
Speaker 2: you expect the Gates of Agne to get maybe involved
Speaker 2: and take out Airfox at some point during this match?
Speaker 6: Oh, I almost forgot about that. Yeah, that'd make a
Speaker 6: lot of sense. Actually, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think I think I think it would.
Speaker 7: I think if if he was in it, then yeah,
Speaker 7: but there's I mean, it's only air Far because I
Speaker 7: really don't think it's gonna make a difference.
Speaker 2: Ricochet has got it out for him. It seems right. Well.
Speaker 2: Speaking of MJF, MJF this past weekend showed up in
Speaker 2: MLW to confront Mystico. Uh. First things first, do you
Speaker 2: think Mystico may show up tomorrow night or are at
Speaker 2: t to my three hundred to uh screw with MJF?
Speaker 2: Could be? I mean that would be a perfect way
Speaker 2: to get MGF versus Mystico at all in wouldn't you agree? Yep?
Speaker 5: I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but MGF shows up at MLW. Wow, should guys
Speaker 2: see that it was something.
Speaker 5: His old stumping ground.
Speaker 4: Yeah, got some of the WWE sement money after all.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you know it's interesting though, because MLW
Speaker 2: New Japan Pro Wrestling and CMLL had a executive meeting
Speaker 2: this class past week to discuss their partnership. You know,
Speaker 2: they had their executives show up and meet. And when
Speaker 2: you think about that, I mean, AW just had a show,
Speaker 2: a very successful show, mind you in CMLL. MJF just
Speaker 2: showed up in MLW, and we've got Forbidden Door next month.
Speaker 2: So I think this is a lot about just getting
Speaker 2: these partnerships out there and saying yeah, we're here and
Speaker 2: we're strong and we're doing stuff. Together, you know, so interesting,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 4: I think rightfully people clown on MLW a little bit.
Speaker 4: I mean they do book Matt Riddle almost every show.
Speaker 2: They deserve it. But you know they.
Speaker 4: Also book show game every show. It's become half the
Speaker 4: show has been t JPW recently. But they you know,
Speaker 4: they pay their bills like they uh, they somehow draw
Speaker 4: like to these shows. They they sold out their show
Speaker 4: in Chicago. I think it was about a thousand seats.
Speaker 4: They somehow draw people to these shows. So it's not
Speaker 4: like MLW is doing something.
Speaker 2: I think they're probably one of the top.
Speaker 5: They're one of the top indies at the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't discout that. Yeah, but when
Speaker 2: you look at it, you know, with the partners, you know,
Speaker 2: MG I'm showing up in MLW was big. It was big.
Speaker 2: That's big news. And having missed the go in MLW
Speaker 2: was big. That's big stuff. But you know, especially especially
Speaker 2: especially in light of you know, the Triple A and
Speaker 2: w w EE, I guess you could call it a merger. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the sale actually went through, but
Speaker 2: it's a look CMLL. You know, they just did a
Speaker 2: show with the AW and the Beast Mortos participated in
Speaker 2: that show after being for lack of better words, blackballed
Speaker 2: by CMLL. Friday night, CMLL is doing their own show
Speaker 2: and guess who's in the main event. Now it's not
Speaker 2: a one on one match, but the Beast Mortos. It
Speaker 2: wasn't a one off, It wasn't a one and done.
Speaker 2: The Beast Mortos is in the main event at the
Speaker 2: CMLL show in on Friday. That's big. That's a big deal.
Speaker 2: That is a big deal.
Speaker 4: He took at Gy Sarah's vacated infaction spot. It seems
Speaker 4: like he's going to be with Averno and Ultimate Gerrero,
Speaker 4: so he's gonna be on the cards if he wants
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is this is a good thing.
Speaker 2: And there's another thing that when during the week when
Speaker 2: when CMLL, because CMLO has a lot of shows, and
Speaker 2: they were promoting one of their shows on social media
Speaker 2: and do you know what CML of course it was
Speaker 2: in Spanish, but you know what DMLL called their fan base.
Speaker 2: They called them sickos. That's big.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that is big, And I'm not saying that it's
Speaker 11: big for a w but if you look at everything
Speaker 11: that's working between CMLL DO, Japan, MLW, and AW.
Speaker 2: They're coalescing. This is good stuff.
Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you. I think it has a
Speaker 5: lot to do with those three. Tony's got a lot
Speaker 5: of influence with all of them.
Speaker 7: But I think those three are getting together and saying, look,
Speaker 7: we know what WW is trying to do to you,
Speaker 7: and we're going to show them that they can't do it,
Speaker 7: and we're gonna be right there for you and we're
Speaker 7: gonna work with you.
Speaker 2: Bring it better for everybody. And we didn't even talk
Speaker 2: about Stardom in this well. Startom in Stardom is owned
Speaker 2: by Boushy Road, which also OWNS and JPW. But when
Speaker 2: you look at Stardom, Okay, they're five on July fifth,
Speaker 2: so three days from now, less than three days from now,
Speaker 2: Startdom is going to be announced the participants in there
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty five five Star Grand Prix. Now
Speaker 2: that is the same event that Anna Jay went to
Speaker 2: start them to participate in in twenty twenty four. Here's
Speaker 2: the thing, though we've already talked about Shuri Okay. Surrey
Speaker 2: is a former five Star GP champion and a main
Speaker 2: stay in these tournaments. Other main stays in these tournaments
Speaker 2: are tam Knakano and Miuewatani. None of those three are
Speaker 2: even they're not in this tournament this year. Tom Nakano
Speaker 2: is retired, meu Atani has left and gone. The Marigold
Speaker 2: Suri has already been announced for short that she is
Speaker 2: not in this tournament. That opens up the door for
Speaker 2: somebody from AW to step in and take one or
Speaker 2: two places in this tournament and make it a big
Speaker 2: deal like they did with Energy. I'm gonna say Ana
Speaker 2: J's participation in the Five Star GP the last year
Speaker 2: got a lot of overseas attention for the Five Star GP,
Speaker 2: especially when you considered that Stardom did something that's very
Speaker 2: smart and uh and appreciative actually, because you know, these
Speaker 2: Five Star GP things are on essentially pay per views,
Speaker 2: you know, pay per view shows, but like a W
Speaker 2: with their pay per views and CMLL, they do a
Speaker 2: zero hour kind of thing, and they put Anna Ja's
Speaker 2: matches for the most part on the zero hour things
Speaker 2: so American fans could watch and a Jay get exposure
Speaker 2: for stardom on YouTube live. That's that's brilliant marketing right there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you got to look at the five
Speaker 2: Star GP and and maybe see something going on there,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Uh, Time Time for Wrestling
Speaker 2: in our chat said that you can see Queen Queen
Speaker 2: Amanada going over Ian. I have some opinions about Queen Amanada.
Speaker 2: I think she's working a little bit too stiff, and
Speaker 2: I think, uh, I don't know, but I will say this,
Speaker 2: when it comes to stardom, people look at stardom and
Speaker 2: they see like these Joshi wrestlers. You know, these little
Speaker 2: Japanese girls. That's not what these women are. They're not
Speaker 2: little jazz, but these girls, these are strikers. You know.
Speaker 2: Look at Julia in w w E. She's kind of
Speaker 2: misplaced a little bit because her her her style is
Speaker 2: stardom style striking. And I think she just she just
Speaker 2: stands out like a sore thumb. She just doesn't have that. Uh.
Speaker 2: Stephanie Bacoor, Uh, I don't know way about her that
Speaker 2: fix in. I guess it's the best way to get
Speaker 2: you know, saying it. Well, she's not on She's.
Speaker 4: Not on the level of Stephanie. I think I've I
Speaker 4: think I've made this point before, like and I don't
Speaker 4: need to reiterate kind of me. There's that there's not
Speaker 4: really uh, there's not an upside to me, like a
Speaker 4: ranking where I think Julie is in the way. She's
Speaker 4: never been one of my favorite wrestlers, but I do
Speaker 4: think she's quality, definitely quality wrestler overall. But yeah, they
Speaker 4: I think you're on a some there with with stardom
Speaker 4: being it's a little down right now from TAM's retirement.
Speaker 4: Everything else started, like kids partially working hard, Mike is
Speaker 4: going to be out with her elbow surgery. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of there's a lot of pieces missing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that stardom needs a little bit
Speaker 2: of a help. I mean, they're still fantastic, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, but a lot of their experiences not in
Speaker 2: play right now, you know.
Speaker 5: So he's in Julia Hart and Blue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look needs some stardom rips. Yeah, I'm interested in
Speaker 2: you know, because we we what you said about Stephanie
Speaker 2: Pakoor and Julia. Stepanie pa Cour is definitely a more
Speaker 2: technical wrestler, and she's also more of a more well look.
Speaker 2: Julia is all elbows, head butts and knees. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna see a lot of You're gonna see a
Speaker 2: few souplexes, but you're not gonna see much of anything else.
Speaker 4: No, every Julia matches, she's gonna do some striking and
Speaker 4: then she's gonna pile drive you through a table at
Speaker 4: some point, right, there's gonna be some reason to go
Speaker 4: outside and she's gonna pile drive you through a table.
Speaker 4: And that's what that's what she does, that's her thing.
Speaker 2: Right, And Julia is actually very very good at taking
Speaker 2: bumps too. I will say that for sure, you know,
Speaker 2: but I and I do believe when it comes to striking,
Speaker 2: Julia has that over Stephanie Pacoor. And when it comes
Speaker 2: to taking bumps and selling bumps, I think she has
Speaker 2: that over Stepanie Percore. Anything technical and just fluid and whatever,
Speaker 2: Stephanie Pacoor has it. The problem with Julia in in
Speaker 2: WWE is that's not the style of wrestling that wd
Speaker 2: WWE wrestlers are trained to do at the performance center.
Speaker 2: So is kind of like a woman on her own
Speaker 2: island out there. Yeah, you know, so probably not the
Speaker 2: best move for her to go to w WE. She
Speaker 2: probably should have stayed in mirror, goold, you know, and
Speaker 2: done something, because look, you talk about something that's Hurt
Speaker 2: and Marigold. God that that company is drawing four hundred people.
Speaker 4: You know, they're really going all in on this feud
Speaker 4: with Marvelous here recently enough to where I think they're
Speaker 4: going to do a double title match between Hayashashita and
Speaker 4: uh and uh Roja from Marvelous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just but does anybody care? You know?
Speaker 4: Probably so, I mean I care from the sense that
Speaker 4: I will watch the show, But yeah, I'm not. I
Speaker 4: don't know if anybody like I really don't even know
Speaker 4: what people are drawing now, if Merrigolds and attendance numbers
Speaker 4: have improved.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean keep in mind also that
Speaker 2: Mary Gold is a very very very new company still,
Speaker 2: they've been around for about a little over a year
Speaker 2: and start him just I mean, they do three shows
Speaker 2: a week. The Miracle can't compete with that, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was just very well thought out,
Speaker 2: and I think that Rossi Gawa thought that maybe w
Speaker 2: W was going to send some people over and you know,
Speaker 2: help them fill out their roster, get some people from
Speaker 2: the performance Center from NXT or whatnot. Possibly you know,
Speaker 2: send Carrie Sane and Yes guy over. It's just not
Speaker 2: really happened. I think EO went once and that was it.
Speaker 4: They they definitely thought they were going to have more defections.
Speaker 4: You with Tony's contract didn't allow that when they first left,
Speaker 4: and a lot of people, like I think people thought
Speaker 4: half of Stardom's top people were gone. And the reality
Speaker 4: is I think if you look at it, like, why
Speaker 4: if you're Micah or Azuomi or Starlight Kid or anybody
Speaker 4: I for that matter, would you want our momo for instance,
Speaker 4: would you want to go to Rossi's promotion whenever you've
Speaker 4: been kind of held back?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, at that point, Saya Kawatani, that's why. Sorry,
Speaker 2: you know, w come on, there's just so many women
Speaker 2: in stardom that for this way, if the stardom roster
Speaker 2: went to WWE WW, that'd be a better roster. If
Speaker 2: the stardom roster went to a W the stardom roster
Speaker 2: would make a W a much better roster. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Speaker 2: It always bothers me when you know, somebody says that
Speaker 2: NXD has the best women's wrestling in the world, or
Speaker 2: WW as the next has the best women's wrestling in
Speaker 2: the world, or a w has the best women's wrestling
Speaker 2: in the world, not even close. Sorry, it's not it's
Speaker 2: not even They're not even in the discussion. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: started is far and away and has been the best
Speaker 2: women's wrestling in the world. It's just that damn good.
Speaker 4: So anyway, so can we talk about something else maybe
Speaker 4: that might affect Forbidden Door in a big way. Not
Speaker 4: to get too fast far past Texas, but and what's that?
Speaker 4: That would be Hirochice Goto losing the title on a
Speaker 4: TV show that nobody saw. Yeah, back to Zach Saber Junior.
Speaker 2: Well that was the whole point about it. What don't
Speaker 2: you think is that got lost the title to Zach
Speaker 2: Saber Junior because Zach Jaber Junior is more marketable for
Speaker 2: Forbidden Door.
Speaker 4: Well that's the thought. I think there's some Apparently Goda's
Speaker 4: gonna miss some injury time, and there's been kind of
Speaker 4: some back and forth on whether he was injured prior
Speaker 4: to the Saber match. Seems kind of silly not to
Speaker 4: think that he probably had some type of injury going
Speaker 4: into that. Zack's an easy person to work, can keep
Speaker 4: you from getting art worse.
Speaker 2: But the where's Zach Saber from Zach Saber Junior from?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's from Sheppy, He's from England.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah right, yea quick, will Osprey and Zach Saber
Speaker 2: Junior in a match of Forbidden Door at the O
Speaker 2: two Arena in England and in London?
Speaker 4: Holy cow, can I tell you what I think it's
Speaker 4: gonna be. Go for it, Brian Danielson.
Speaker 2: You really think, Oh my god, you know you think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be pribb. Yeah, well, when if you're gonna
Speaker 2: do Brian Danielson match, I mean, who's the better pro
Speaker 2: than Zach Saber Junior? Seriously? Very interesting thought interesting. I
Speaker 2: think there's any chance of maybe doing a uh maybe
Speaker 2: Zack Saber Junior gets it just to protect Brian Danielson
Speaker 2: a little bit, gets a tag team partner and maybe
Speaker 2: it's Danielson and maybe Osprey is tag team possibly.
Speaker 4: I mean Ospray, Ospray and Saber would be a great match.
Speaker 4: To get me wrong, that would be uh, that would
Speaker 4: be a crazy match. But uh, there's potentially other potentially
Speaker 4: other matches for Ospray.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do Ospray and Zach Saber Junior. If that's
Speaker 2: not I mean not Ospray Danielson and Zach Saber Junior.
Speaker 2: If that's not the main event, there's something wrong. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So you know something fun that that's been talked about
Speaker 2: is uh the whole Christian Age and Adam Copland. It
Speaker 2: came out a week or so. Again, I think it
Speaker 2: was Fitful said, yeah. The plan, the original plan was
Speaker 2: for Christian Cage and Adam Copeland to be a team
Speaker 2: at all in And it was actually Christian that put
Speaker 2: a kebash on that because he didn't want to lead
Speaker 2: the patriarchy patriarchy without doing everything he possibly could to
Speaker 2: get Nick Wayne over good on Christian Cage. That's when
Speaker 2: these ex WWE guys are supposed to be doing, you know.
Speaker 6: Putting over these father does.
Speaker 2: That's what a good father does does. So, yeah, it
Speaker 2: looks like Christian Cage and Adam Copland are going to
Speaker 2: get together, but not before Christian Cage puts Nick wayn over.
Speaker 2: And there's been talk about Christian Cage and Nick Wayne
Speaker 2: being the first father son Tag Team champions in AW
Speaker 2: And there's also been talked that they've actual he created
Speaker 2: a father son Tag Team belt. Why that's ridiculous. I
Speaker 2: don't get it. That's an expensive joke.
Speaker 3: I get.
Speaker 7: I get the fact that they want to. I want
Speaker 7: that he wants to help put him over as much
Speaker 7: as he can. But seriously, if if he does get
Speaker 7: if they do win the tag titles, they're not gonna
Speaker 7: have him for long.
Speaker 5: So I don't see that it's gonna help put him over.
Speaker 2: I disagree if they win the father son tag titles.
Speaker 2: There's no other father son tag teams in the n
Speaker 2: AW didn't take them out.
Speaker 7: I know I agree with you on that, but I'm
Speaker 7: saying that if it doesn't make any sense for me
Speaker 7: for those two to win the tag titles, and that's
Speaker 7: not I mean it's gonna help put I mean he's nick,
Speaker 7: Wayne's not.
Speaker 5: He's over pretty good as it is now. He's doing
Speaker 5: a hell of a job on his own.
Speaker 7: I mean, he did a great job in the super Juniors,
Speaker 7: and I get it it would help him a little bit.
Speaker 7: But if you're gonna have them win the titles and
Speaker 7: then immediately lose them, I don't see what the point is.
Speaker 2: But they're not winning the a W Tag team titles. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're winning the aa W father son titles. It's different
Speaker 2: that Matt Well You's the only one you can do
Speaker 2: is Billy Gonna What are you gonna have? And his
Speaker 2: son Steve Borden, Taz and Hook.
Speaker 7: You know, I mean wrestle, So I seriously doubt that
Speaker 7: would happen. You could have a three way match between
Speaker 7: those teams for it, I guess. I mean, it's kind
Speaker 7: of stupid. Like you said, it is stupid. It don't
Speaker 7: make any sense.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. It's look whatever you want
Speaker 2: to think about it. The tag team the father son
Speaker 2: tag teams don't don't make any sense, especially since they
Speaker 2: said that they've also made the women's tag team titles.
Speaker 2: You don't introduce a gimmick joke title at the same
Speaker 2: time as, in my opinion, some very important women's tag
Speaker 2: team titles.
Speaker 7: I think the best way to put Nick Wayne over
Speaker 7: is to have them turn on Christian Well because that
Speaker 7: would give him a face turn, because Christian is such
Speaker 7: an evil little twerp.
Speaker 5: But I mean, I don't see them winning it. I
Speaker 5: just don't get the.
Speaker 7: Fact that he thinks that's going to help put him
Speaker 7: over any more than he already is. I think a
Speaker 7: turn on him and then to save by Adam Coplan
Speaker 7: would be the best way to do that and finish
Speaker 7: it off.
Speaker 2: Well, what you do is you turned the patriarchy into
Speaker 2: the matriarchy, That's what you do.
Speaker 7: That was the play in last year from what we heard,
Speaker 7: they were supposed to turn only before and he never did.
Speaker 2: And what mother Wayne and her tall self, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean g towers over you know, at least eighty
Speaker 2: five to ninety percent of the entire roster on aw Uh,
Speaker 2: she's she's she's imposing. And I've actually when she's been
Speaker 2: on the mic, I've actually rather even though she's simple,
Speaker 2: simple scripted, I actually liked her Aura. I guess that
Speaker 2: is the best way to put it. Well, the plan
Speaker 2: was when before.
Speaker 7: Before Jungle Boy went off to Japan and all that,
Speaker 7: the plan was that they were supposed to have him
Speaker 7: join and turn on Christian and it was going to
Speaker 7: become the matriarchy and then he was going to be.
Speaker 5: Part of it along with.
Speaker 7: Whatever you want to call him, the Dinosaur Man, whichever
Speaker 7: way you want to call.
Speaker 2: Him, Nim Wayne.
Speaker 7: And yeah, it was either going to be loose, you
Speaker 7: know that they could call him U the story, she
Speaker 7: can call him and kill switch whichever. But that was
Speaker 7: all planned last year, and then the whole ship with
Speaker 7: Jungle Boy happened and he ended up Jack Perry ended
Speaker 7: up leaving for a while, so that kind of put
Speaker 7: a coybox on it.
Speaker 2: Then, well, if you go, Lucas Sores is calling himself
Speaker 2: Lucasaurus on the signing tours, and he's also gone back
Speaker 2: to the green mask. It's not the same green mask,
Speaker 2: but it's a green mask. The man is coming back.
Speaker 2: I we'll talk before all In next Tuesday night. We're
Speaker 2: gonna probably be doing a All In prediction show, or
Speaker 2: at least sharing thoughts about about all In. And one
Speaker 2: of the things that we're going to talk about is
Speaker 2: who do we think is gonna show up? Because it's
Speaker 2: probably gonna be the most fun thing to talk about.
Speaker 2: Who do we thinks of the show up at the
Speaker 2: Men's Casino Goblin Match? And who do we think is
Speaker 2: in the show up at the Women's Casino Goblin Match?
Speaker 2: But spoiler, and I think Lucasaurus is one of one
Speaker 2: of my top names in the men's Casino Golin, So
Speaker 2: let that just be said. Anyway, Eventually we're gonna get
Speaker 2: Christian Cage and Adam Copeland as a team. The cope
Speaker 2: cage or whatever the heck they're gonna call it, but
Speaker 2: not right now. Uh, maybe in time for the for
Speaker 2: the pay per view after Forbidden Door. But let's move on, Yeah,
Speaker 2: all out, that's right, Let's talk about some pope prie.
Speaker 2: Does anybody have pope pried that they want to talk about? Hi?
Speaker 6: Do if I may go for it? Jess, I was
Speaker 6: actually gonna bring this up next week and which sort
Speaker 6: of ran out of time. And you you're probably gonna
Speaker 6: have something to say about this, Kelston, because you mentioned
Speaker 6: you had thoughts Almanada she had that weird stiff, ugly
Speaker 6: match with THECLA and there was some like scuttle butt
Speaker 6: that like it may have been like shoots, like she
Speaker 6: may have been like working stiff on purpose, So like,
Speaker 6: is there beef between those two of them? And then
Speaker 6: she cuts a promo saying that she wants to like
Speaker 6: basically like she wants to do a feud, basically implying
Speaker 6: there's gonna be a few between Amanada and Tekla. So
Speaker 6: did we all get worked? Is there beef there? And
Speaker 6: they're just turning it into an angle out of professionalism?
Speaker 6: What do you think is going on there?
Speaker 2: I have an opinion on this. First, I don't believe
Speaker 2: that it is a work in any way, shape or form,
Speaker 2: Nor do I do I believe that it's a shoot.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Look, I think the plan all along was maybe for
Speaker 2: Amanada and beck La to have a mini feud donald
Speaker 2: lanky feud, but a mini feud. I like Amanada and
Speaker 2: I've been at propos on it for her being on
Speaker 2: TV a lot more than she's been. Uh, she's she's
Speaker 2: got I've said that. I just said it earlier the
Speaker 2: word or earlier. She's got the aura and she has
Speaker 2: been on TV a lot lately and it's exposed her.
Speaker 2: She's not that good, that's my opinion.
Speaker 7: Kind of agree with him. I kind of agree with
Speaker 7: you kills. And I think she works hard. I think
Speaker 7: she works stiff. That's just how she is.
Speaker 2: That's that's how she is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think there's a I don't think it's
Speaker 7: a work. I don't think it's a shoot. I think
Speaker 7: that's her and that's the problem. She's been found out
Speaker 7: and she's gonna either have to learn to roll with
Speaker 7: it or there's gonna be some her rise to start
Speaker 7: him is not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, for me, she and I don't know, Jess,
Speaker 2: if this is something that you are already anybody else
Speaker 2: agrees with. Abanana is a face character with every heel
Speaker 2: tendency that there is. She's got a bad attitude. She
Speaker 2: works stiff and I'm sorry she's immature. That's just a
Speaker 2: good I mean. And the more I see her, the
Speaker 2: more I think, you know, maybe she's not as good
Speaker 2: as I thought she was. As I was like, this
Speaker 2: is the next TBS champion, Nomenada, and I just don't
Speaker 2: see it. I just don't, you know. I hate to
Speaker 2: say it, but I'm getting a cancer in the locker
Speaker 2: room vibe from her. I get it. Maybe that's intentional,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I get a Jay Cargill attitude feeling from her. She
Speaker 7: acts a lot like Jake car Gill did. She comes
Speaker 7: across as a great as what could be a great wrestler,
Speaker 7: but she just doesn't have She just does how to
Speaker 7: work with people.
Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, it's I'm just saying it is. The
Speaker 2: more that I've seen her, and I'm interested in hearing
Speaker 2: what everybody else's opinion on her is. The more than
Speaker 2: I've seen Aminada, the less I like her. And I mean,
Speaker 2: as far as I'm not thinking about her character or
Speaker 2: even her as a person, I just don't think she's
Speaker 2: that great, that she's just that good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was starting to get like vibe. Her name
Speaker 6: escapes me. I'm gonna be kicking myself as soon as
Speaker 6: somebody says it. She used to tag with Diamante. She
Speaker 6: was Luca Underground.
Speaker 5: What's her name? I know who you're talking about, because
Speaker 5: I just watched the story about.
Speaker 6: That evil Yeah, she was giving me evilly s.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that. Anybody else, not Hamsare or Steve.
Speaker 2: Do you have any any opinions on Nomenaa, on her
Speaker 2: rise a possible fall? Is she the next TBS champion
Speaker 2: or any you know something?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to it's hard for me to disagree
Speaker 4: with your assertion that she's not really helped herself with
Speaker 4: more work she Uh, I mean, I first of all,
Speaker 4: and I'm shocked to hear that the Chigos and Aguayo
Speaker 4: trainee would be too stiff with people. That's that's just
Speaker 4: impossible to believe. That's everybody from Marvelous, So that's uh,
Speaker 4: it's understandable, I guess. But yeah, I agree with you like,
Speaker 4: she needs to she needs to take a step forward
Speaker 4: in probably this year, or she's gonna be in a
Speaker 4: little bit of a rough patch because you know, I think, uh,
Speaker 4: I think what we're seeing now is the quality level
Speaker 4: moving up. It's gonna be hard to get matches, Like
Speaker 4: if you're not if you're not as good as Alex wins,
Speaker 4: you're not going to get matches anymore, you know. So
Speaker 4: she definitely needs to to take a step forward. But
Speaker 4: I still, you know, I still will hold that hope
Speaker 4: for her. She doesn't have a ton of reps on TV.
Speaker 4: Definitely not ready to write her off, but I don't.
Speaker 4: I And for the record, I thought the match with
Speaker 4: Decla was was a lot of fun. I thought it
Speaker 4: was actually the best Declo match in a while because
Speaker 4: she hadn't had a lot of good singles. But also yeah,
Speaker 4: I and I think as far as like how their
Speaker 4: stuff went, there was probably some there were probably some
Speaker 4: communicate I don't know if there's communication issues or just
Speaker 4: some some chemistry issues, but definitely she was a little annoyed.
Speaker 4: I think with Deca at the end that was very clear.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna I'm gonna say one word
Speaker 2: to you, Homshara, and this is, uh what I think
Speaker 2: the issue is. I don't know if you saw this movie,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to say the word, maybe get it
Speaker 2: and maybe you won't gostrapa. She has anger management issues,
Speaker 2: I believe I think she. I think she devolves. If
Speaker 2: you see the movie anger management. That's the running joke
Speaker 2: goosebabo and that's the word that they use to those
Speaker 2: with the anger management issues, used to calm themselves and
Speaker 2: to you know, admit internally that they have anger management issues.
Speaker 2: That's what I see with Amanada as a babyface character.
Speaker 2: That does not work. It would work if she was
Speaker 2: a heel. You know, Dekla is supposed to be a heel,
Speaker 2: and she comes off as more the babyface when she's
Speaker 2: in the ring with Queenomanada. If you're gonna do that
Speaker 2: and let Queen Amanada's true personality come out, she's got
Speaker 2: to be like the mega heel character. There's just no
Speaker 2: other way around it. You can't make her babyface with
Speaker 2: that kind of behavior.
Speaker 7: I kind of think she picked the wrong person to
Speaker 7: bring that out against, because I think Bechla is probably
Speaker 7: one of the kind of that can go in the
Speaker 7: ring and you want to work stiff, She'll works stiff
Speaker 7: with you, and you're gonna come out on the bad end.
Speaker 2: Decla is the type of person that won't demean herself
Speaker 2: at the working stiff dec Decla is a striker. She
Speaker 2: comes from stardom Startom as a striking company. That's what
Speaker 2: they're known for. They're not known for flippity shit. They're
Speaker 2: known for two things, striking and belly to back suplexes.
Speaker 2: My god, they do a lot of suplexes, German suplexes
Speaker 2: and belly Holy cow, it's like, you know, thirty a match.
Speaker 2: I don't care who it is, but you know, when
Speaker 2: that was going on, I think Decla was amused, not mad.
Speaker 2: She wasn't going to give Dominado a receipt. I personally,
Speaker 2: do you think Beckler was like this, This shit is funny.
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion. Anybody else has a pot pourrif
Speaker 2: for tonight? No, nop.
Speaker 6: Anybody you want to say anything about Knight of Champions,
Speaker 6: What god?
Speaker 2: I tried to watch that. Let me I'm gonna preface this, okay.
Speaker 2: The last p l E they had was money in
Speaker 2: the bank. No, was that the last pl E money
Speaker 2: to make. Yeah, and I and on this podcast I
Speaker 2: made a statement saying I watched Money in the Bank
Speaker 2: and I was thoroughly surprised. I have not watched a
Speaker 2: w W P L E in years. I I thought
Speaker 2: the show flowed well. I thought the matches were fun
Speaker 2: and interesting. I was Sports Center. I didn't see a
Speaker 2: problem with you know, yes, I mean obviously you're gonna
Speaker 2: have commercials. I didn't think that they were overbearing, right,
Speaker 2: And then you had Night of Champions which the first
Speaker 2: match was Randy Orton against Cody Rhodes. Randy Orton looked
Speaker 2: like a seventy five year old man in the ring
Speaker 2: and Cody Rhodes looked like a young man who was
Speaker 2: wrestling a seventy five year old man in the ring.
Speaker 2: They stared at each other, They did a lot of
Speaker 2: headline It was the worst match I have seen in
Speaker 2: a long time. They were going for psychology, I think,
Speaker 2: and they didn't pull it off. And then the second
Speaker 2: match was rear Ripley against I can't remember who rear
Speaker 2: Ripley even rustled against Rea Ripley, whitbeat.
Speaker 5: I don't know much.
Speaker 2: Well, the point is is that I don't remember the
Speaker 2: match because it was gone awful boring. I was like,
Speaker 2: you're talking about a no holds barred, no disqualification match,
Speaker 2: you know. And it was like, here, here, you can
Speaker 2: use this feather duster, and you can use this feather
Speaker 2: duster and just beat the crap out of each other.
Speaker 2: You could hit as much, you could hit as hard
Speaker 2: as you want with a feather duster, but it's still
Speaker 2: a feather duster, you know what I mean. It just
Speaker 2: there was no and then I turned it off. I
Speaker 2: was like, this is just awful. It is awful. It was.
Speaker 2: It was just bad. Now I can always say about
Speaker 2: the first at second matches, but I didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 6: Sorry, no, no, I was wondering because nothing like a
Speaker 6: Saudi show to bring out just the absolute worst and everyone.
Speaker 7: Well they never had good shows in Saudi anymore. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 2: Have Yeah, but look, the crowd was hot, they were,
Speaker 2: you know, and I saw some of the dumbest comments
Speaker 2: on the from the IWC, from that pay per view,
Speaker 2: I didn't even want to get there, Like there were
Speaker 2: no women in the crowd, just there were you know.
Speaker 2: I saw some. I saw some. I mean not gonna
Speaker 2: lie to you I was turned on by Saudi women ankles.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you never seen that before. God Almighty no,
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, you know, you know, there was
Speaker 2: just you know, this was a plant. That was a plant.
Speaker 2: This was a plant. They piped in this, they did that.
Speaker 2: Who cares? I don't watch. Yes, a crowd can make
Speaker 2: a show better, and a crowd can make a show worse, right,
Speaker 2: But ultimately, the wrestling's good. The wrestling's good. Yep, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't care what a wrestler does when you're walking
Speaker 2: away from the ring or to the ring as much
Speaker 2: as I care about what the crowd does and what
Speaker 2: the wrestlers do in the ring. That's my point. I
Speaker 2: don't care if they put a match in you know,
Speaker 2: the local bar. If the crowd appreciates it, the wrestlers
Speaker 2: do well, it's a successful show. I don't care if
Speaker 2: it's two hundred wrestlers at a show or twenty thousand.
Speaker 2: You know, these arguments are stupid. I mean, twenty thousand
Speaker 2: or two hundred in the crowd, you know, not wrestlers, right,
Speaker 2: twenty thousand wrestlers is holy cow, that's a massacre. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So that's my opinion.
Speaker 6: I would probably like say, there's probably something to the
Speaker 6: rumor that the that Muhammad, the fan who was mad
Speaker 6: at CM punk and got a public apology out of
Speaker 6: him was probably a planned Yeah, there just so happened
Speaker 6: to be someone there for UH Punk to make a
Speaker 6: public apology for his blood covered blood money covered you
Speaker 6: know what tweet. Just somebody just happened to be there
Speaker 6: in the front row, and you just happened to publicly
Speaker 6: address this one fan in particular, kind of sus.
Speaker 7: Look, it comes down to, you know, we can see
Speaker 7: we can sit here and talk about what ww did
Speaker 7: good and what WWD didn't do good, and it's going
Speaker 7: to be like that all the time because they are
Speaker 7: now finding themselves in a position where they're catching up
Speaker 7: or trying to catch back up to what aw's doing.
Speaker 5: Because the more AEW gets good.
Speaker 7: And starts getting better and keeps growing and the momentum
Speaker 7: keeps going, the worst WWE looks they really do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Stunton, Look like I said, I watched Money
Speaker 2: in the Bank and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I really
Speaker 2: can't say no, really, there were some things that I
Speaker 2: didn't like as much as others. But there's things that
Speaker 2: I like more than others and aw shows than any
Speaker 2: wrestling show that I've ever watched. But overall, I thought
Speaker 2: Money in the Bank was a very enjoyable, great I'll
Speaker 2: say it. It was a great show. I liked it. I
Speaker 2: loved Money in the Bank. I would watch WWE if
Speaker 2: they can put that type of product out there every
Speaker 2: week based on Money in the Bank. That's the reason
Speaker 2: I watched Night of Champions because I was hoping that
Speaker 2: I would see something commeserate to Money the Bank. What
Speaker 2: I got was not that. I'm sorry, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: honest with you. I people from the You guys know,
Speaker 2: if I see something today w does and I think
Speaker 2: it's shit, I'm not going to gloss it over. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna call it shit. And Money in the Bank was great, Dinam,
Speaker 2: Champions was shit. Sorry, that's the way it is. That's
Speaker 2: the way I look at it. But anyway, look, does
Speaker 2: anybody else have any other potpourries? Good? Well, then I
Speaker 2: guess we'll call it a night. We'll be back tomorrow
Speaker 2: night after well, yeah, tomorrow, and we'll be back Thursday.
Speaker 2: I guess the best way to put it for our
Speaker 2: Dynamite three hundred review show. If you want to participate
Speaker 2: in the Dynamite three hundred review show and give your
Speaker 2: thoughts about Dynamite three hundred and the implications that I'm
Speaker 2: sure they're going to come out in regard to aw's
Speaker 2: all in Texas. Just come onto our discord right after
Speaker 2: Dynamite three hundred goes off the air, whether it's ten o'clock,
Speaker 2: ten fifteen, ten thirty, God only knows what AW anymore
Speaker 2: and share your thoughts. We tend to do the show's
Speaker 2: only it's a shorter show and hopefully, hopefully AW gives
Speaker 2: us a crapload of stuff to talk about and speculate
Speaker 2: about on Dynamite three hundred. That's the hope. Anyway, Thanks
Speaker 2: guys for joining us and being part of the AW community.
Speaker 2: A couple of things I did want to mention before
Speaker 2: we go off the air. The AW fan of community
Speaker 2: has finally surpassed on Reddit ten thousand members, So thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you for that, because we got started very late
Speaker 2: in the AW fandom, and it means a lot to
Speaker 2: have ten thousand people, you know, and so much activity.
Speaker 2: That's that, And I wanted to close the show before
Speaker 2: saying goodnight to say something that's rather personal. When I
Speaker 2: was growing up, my father exposed me to professional wrestling,
Speaker 2: and all these years later, I'm doing these podcasts and
Speaker 2: enjoying being part of ever expanding a w fanhub community,
Speaker 2: and frankly, none of that would have been possible without
Speaker 2: my dad and my love for It's literally a passion
Speaker 2: for professional wrestling has always been a passion for me,
Speaker 2: and it's all because of my dad. Aunt. Today is
Speaker 2: my dad's birthday, and I love you, am. I'm missing
Speaker 2: good night everybody.
Speaker 5: My guess good night