Speaker 1: With Dan Ray on WBZ Constance Radio.
Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back everybody, as we move into the
Speaker 2: nine o'clock hour, The Boston Globe had a really interesting
Speaker 2: story above the fold today. It's entitled one Immigration Case,
Speaker 2: Two Diverging Views, and it's by Sean Carter, who's a
Speaker 2: reporter for the Globe, really good reporter from what I
Speaker 2: can say, and he talks about an individual named Maynor
Speaker 2: Francisco Hernandez Roodas who has been charged with the rape
Speaker 2: of a child and faces a lengthy prison sentence in
Speaker 2: a Massachusetts prison, possibly for life if convicted. Now again,
Speaker 2: this guy's a Guatemalan, he's here illegally, and he faces deportation.
Speaker 2: But now, according to the Globe story, there's a bit
Speaker 2: of a tug of war between local and federal officials.
Speaker 2: Now this plays out against a lot of the comments
Speaker 2: that President Trump's borders are Tom Homan has made. There's
Speaker 2: a piece that I believe will be in the Globe
Speaker 2: tomorrow that fact checks some of Homan's comments. And this
Speaker 2: is part of the problem that I think the Trump
Speaker 2: administration deals with, in my opinion, is that they sometimes
Speaker 2: shoot from the hip or shoot from the lip, and
Speaker 2: it is better, in my opinion, to stay with facts.
Speaker 2: And in many cases the facts are good for your
Speaker 2: position or the other side, doesn't matter, but stick with
Speaker 2: the facts. And the case that I want to talk about,
Speaker 2: which is in the Globe, deals with a guy, and
Speaker 2: so the question comes up. The Trump administration apparently would
Speaker 2: like to deport this guy because he's in the country illegally. Okay,
Speaker 2: now you might agree or you might disagree with that,
Speaker 2: but that's their position. But this guy has quite a
Speaker 2: long record and he's accused again. According to Sean Carter
Speaker 2: and John Ellman, who's another good reporter who contributed to this,
Speaker 2: this fellow last name Hernandoz Hernandez Rhodas, was initially held
Speaker 2: in Middlesex County after his first arrest in June, and
Speaker 2: he was released in September after posting one thousand dollars
Speaker 2: cash bail. He's accused by both Middlesex and Suffolk County
Speaker 2: of raping the young daughter as early as five years old.
Speaker 2: This again an accusation, but pretty serious, of raping this
Speaker 2: girl multiple times since twenty eighteen, allegedly at multiple locations,
Speaker 2: including the mother's home in Chelsea and at his apartment
Speaker 2: in Lowell. Now, after his indictment in Suffolk County in
Speaker 2: December on multiple charges of child rape, ICE transferred him
Speaker 2: to state custody. There, prosecute is persuaded a judge this
Speaker 2: at a high enough bail a million dollars, that he
Speaker 2: so far remains in custody. But ironically, prosecutor is again
Speaker 2: I'm reading from the globe, so you understand the story.
Speaker 2: Prosecute has justified the high bail amount, not so much
Speaker 2: in the grounds of Hernandez Rojas is the danger of
Speaker 2: the community. How the hell is somebody who's charged with
Speaker 2: multiple rapes of a child up from the age of
Speaker 2: five not considered a danger of the community. But the
Speaker 2: high bail was set because he would be at risk
Speaker 2: of being removed by Ice. Now it gets a little
Speaker 2: more complicated because we have this court decision here in
Speaker 2: Massachusetts in two thy seventeen, the so called lun decision,
Speaker 2: And in that decision, the Massachusetts State Supreme Court in
Speaker 2: an unsigned opinion. So therefore we don't know which judges
Speaker 2: supported it. I guess as an unsigned opinion you might
Speaker 2: have to have concluded that it was the unanimous opinion.
Speaker 2: But I can't be sure. This really was no dissent written.
Speaker 2: This is called the lun decision LU, and these decisions
Speaker 2: tend to wrap their way work their way through federal
Speaker 2: courts over a long period of time. Without getting into
Speaker 2: it in great detail. Part of the argument by Massachusetts
Speaker 2: officials in not turning individuals once in custody, Ice puts
Speaker 2: a detainer on them, and Ice finds out that some
Speaker 2: department or some DA's office has someone, and Ice says, look,
Speaker 2: can you hold them for twenty four hours or forty
Speaker 2: eight hours because we're kind of busy. We've got to
Speaker 2: get up there and get them. And the Massachusetts agency
Speaker 2: sometimes or more often than not, releases those individuals. So
Speaker 2: the system is so messed up in my opinion and
Speaker 2: maybe in some of yours, that I hope that the
Speaker 2: Trump administration is able through all these court cases to
Speaker 2: determine we are the United States of America. And the
Speaker 2: Arizona case back from twenty ten essentially said that the
Speaker 2: federal government basically has control of immigration law. And it
Speaker 2: gets confusing because you have sanctuary cities and trust cities
Speaker 2: and welcoming cities, and then you have states that have
Speaker 2: different programs. So normally you have on a federal issue,
Speaker 2: which is immigration. I mean basically the United States. The
Speaker 2: Arizona versus US the case I'm talking about where Governor
Speaker 2: Brewer in Arizona in the earlier years of this century
Speaker 2: tried to increase the enforcement with state law officers or
Speaker 2: city law offices in Arizona, and the US Supreme Court said, no,
Speaker 2: federal law is federal law, so you cannot impose stronger
Speaker 2: federal law that exists. At the same time, it seemed
Speaker 2: to me the corollary should be that you have to
Speaker 2: comply with federal law. If Arizona is prevented from imposing
Speaker 2: stronger federal law, it would seem to me that the
Speaker 2: federal judges would recognize that Arizona decision, which which was
Speaker 2: fought successfully by the Obama administration in twenty ten, and say, look,
Speaker 2: you know, we have one set of We do not
Speaker 2: have fifty states with fifty laws, just as we do
Speaker 2: not have fifty states with laws that deal with public
Speaker 2: accommodations or gay marriage. We are the United as President
Speaker 2: of Boys say, we are the United States of America,
Speaker 2: not the Blue States of America or the Red States
Speaker 2: of America. So I propose something pretty simple and that
Speaker 2: if someone has picked up here illegally and they've come
Speaker 2: into the country illegally, deport them. Okay. Now, if they
Speaker 2: want to make an argument that no, they they can
Speaker 2: prove that they did not come in illegally, they have
Speaker 2: a right to do process. But if they are adjudicated
Speaker 2: as having come into the country.
Speaker 3: Illegally, deported, if they commit a violent crime while here
Speaker 3: in America, give them due process, give them a trial.
Speaker 2: Give this guy who's accused of raping a five year
Speaker 2: old I think between the ages of five and ten
Speaker 2: multiple times, give him due process and sentence him to
Speaker 2: the longest sentence you can legitimately give him, and once
Speaker 2: he serves his sentence, to port him. It's as simple
Speaker 2: as that. Allow the States to treat him like any
Speaker 2: other citizen. Now, you can't deport citizens, but put him,
Speaker 2: let him pay for his crime or she, whoever that
Speaker 2: would be, and to port them after they finished serving
Speaker 2: the sentence. I don't understand why it gets why it
Speaker 2: needs to be any more complicated than that. So I'd
Speaker 2: love to know if you agree with me or if
Speaker 2: you disagree. I just think it's it's simple. It's straightforward.
Speaker 2: That's all you have to do. You commit a violent crime,
Speaker 2: serious crime, you commit whatever, I don't even know what's
Speaker 2: consider a non serious crime. You know, breaking into Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes's home and stealing his materials, that's breaking and entering, robbery, theft.
Speaker 2: UH do the time, and then you deport them, simple
Speaker 2: as that. I'd love to. It just seems to me
Speaker 2: that the politicians on both sides of the isle make
Speaker 2: it more complicated, unnecessarily complicated. Six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty, six one seven, nine three, one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Those are the two numbers that'll get you on. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about this for a little while. Six one seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty, six one seven nine three one ten
Speaker 2: thirty coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 1: to night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: So against the backdrop of the drama that is going
Speaker 2: to I guess play out uh in the next few weeks.
Speaker 2: The Mayor of Boston has been summoned to appear in
Speaker 2: front of Congress in March. I'm not exactly sure. I
Speaker 2: don't have in front of me the date. Originally she
Speaker 2: was going to be appearing there some time in February,
Speaker 2: but it's been pushed back in the meantime. Over the weekend,
Speaker 2: at a conference in Washington, the new Homeland Secretary Tom
Speaker 2: Homan basically went after the political leadership here in Boston
Speaker 2: and focused his wrath on the Boston Police Commissioner, Michael Cox.
Speaker 2: This is cut number one. Please, Mike, if you could
Speaker 2: play cut number one on that audio cutsheet that we
Speaker 2: were just talking about. I wrote a story.
Speaker 4: Last night the police commissioner of Boston. You said you're
Speaker 4: doubled down on not helping law enforcement offers device. I'm
Speaker 4: coming to Boston. I'm bringing hell with me.
Speaker 2: Homan went on. He was speaking at a conference of
Speaker 2: conservative political activists, and he made some specific allegations which
Speaker 2: would probably most charitably described as being somewhat unclear, maybe
Speaker 2: even sloppy. And this is again, he's mixing Boston with
Speaker 2: Massachusetts a little bit. This has cut one a, please, Michael,
Speaker 2: cut one A.
Speaker 4: I looked at the numbers this morning. I counted I
Speaker 4: stopped counting at nine nine nine child rapists that were
Speaker 4: in jail in Massachusetts, but rather than honoring an icytainer,
Speaker 4: released them back into the street. You're not a police commissioner,
Speaker 4: take that badge off your chest, put in the desk drawer.
Speaker 4: Because you became a politician.
Speaker 2: You forgot lost like to be a cop. Now. The
Speaker 2: police commissioner in Boston, Michael Cox, was on one of
Speaker 2: the Sunday morning talk shows on Channel five This this Sunday,
Speaker 2: and he reacted to that, Mike, this is the fourth
Speaker 2: cut down on the list. It's it's it's numbered cut two.
Speaker 2: A please play cut too A for me, Mike.
Speaker 5: In the Boston Police Department has pretty defined rules set
Speaker 5: by the law, and we we abide by the law
Speaker 5: here in the state and we don't, you know, enforce
Speaker 5: civil detainers regarding federal immigration law. It's you know, it's
Speaker 5: defined here in the state and that's just how it works.
Speaker 2: So so it's it's an interesting situation we find ourselves
Speaker 2: here in this country. We have a federal government, but
Speaker 2: we have a number of states who are not complying
Speaker 2: with what the federal government is asking. It seems to
Speaker 2: me that there is this becomes sort of a federal
Speaker 2: states rights argument, and normally the political parties are kind
Speaker 2: of switched on this position. And if you go back
Speaker 2: and look at the Arizona versus US case back in
Speaker 2: twenty ten. Essentially, the court said, Hey, this area of
Speaker 2: immigration law is the federal purview, period. So let's see,
Speaker 2: let's get some callers going here. We're going to start
Speaker 2: it off before we go to the break. Bosco from Boston. Bosco,
Speaker 2: welcome your first this hour a nightside, go right ahead, Bosco.
Speaker 6: Hey, damn, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, sir. What's your take on all of this?
Speaker 2: It can get a little confusing.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's very concuious.
Speaker 6: And then I heard you, and then I agree with
Speaker 6: you with most everything you said except to one. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 6: you said exactly correctly, Like if somebody else come here
Speaker 6: legal like I'm an immigrant, I'm from Brazil, and if
Speaker 6: they become illegal, uh, doesn't matter, like they commit a crime, Yeah,
Speaker 6: bring them to the court, put them in a jail,
Speaker 6: but I don't hold them here because this does not
Speaker 6: belong to the United States of America. They should not
Speaker 6: pay for the time they serve in jail here, because
Speaker 6: it's are extensive. I believe they should have agreement with
Speaker 6: the Brazilian like Brazilian system like correction system and send
Speaker 6: them back to the counter over there to serve there
Speaker 6: to because they belong to their Even if they committed
Speaker 6: a crime here, they came here illegal. They came here
Speaker 6: to escape from, probably from something else they did wrong
Speaker 6: in the country. I was Jon, and I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in some cases. Here's my question though, that's a
Speaker 2: really good point that you make. But the question is
Speaker 2: you're going to send someone here who kits who commits
Speaker 2: the crime. When the crime is committed here, it's unlike
Speaker 2: a civil case, it's the people of Massachusetts versus the defendant,
Speaker 2: because even though the defendant raped a five year old
Speaker 2: girl allegedly multiple times, the case really is brought by
Speaker 2: the people, so that the district attorney is the people's
Speaker 2: representative in court. It's the people versus this individual, even
Speaker 2: though the crime went against one particular child, or or
Speaker 2: went against one particular store owner or one bank whatever. So, now,
Speaker 2: do you trust these other countries if you deport that individual,
Speaker 2: and let's say they have a ten year sentence, do
Speaker 2: you trust that other country to make them so that
Speaker 2: ten year sentence or not? That's a problem.
Speaker 6: No, No, I agree with you about exactly what I
Speaker 6: was trying to say is exactly like that. It's hard
Speaker 6: to trust another country. But they have a good agreement
Speaker 6: with with another country, like a very good diplomatic like agreements,
Speaker 6: and the United States of America can reinforce that one.
Speaker 6: They can reforce the other country to comply.
Speaker 7: With that one.
Speaker 6: It's pretty simple because they have a promacy and if
Speaker 6: it's somebody else, go to to another country facilities to
Speaker 6: serve in the jail. If they don't like, say the
Speaker 6: ten years in jail, the United States of Americas, probably
Speaker 6: they should have like a diplomacy to verify that one.
Speaker 6: But they should they should pay the they crime back
Speaker 6: and accountable over there, because I don't think they come
Speaker 6: in there.
Speaker 2: I just am concerned that they would be deported with
Speaker 2: the intention of the crime being served. But then two
Speaker 2: years down the line, the government of this country changes.
Speaker 2: As it can happen it can happen in our country
Speaker 2: as well, and that the new government says, oh, we're
Speaker 2: going to release those guys because it wasn't a crime
Speaker 2: that was committed against someone who was in our country.
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to throw any country under the
Speaker 2: bus here, Bosco, Okay, I just want to make sure
Speaker 2: that that the punishment that that is imposed actually is served.
Speaker 2: Thanks for getting us going. You said that you came
Speaker 2: here legally correct.
Speaker 6: No, no, it didn't came illegally. But I came here
Speaker 6: at the immigrant and and I I decided to live
Speaker 6: here and in I'm I became an America student. Great,
Speaker 6: uh back on the two thousand and seven. And what
Speaker 6: happened is yeah exactly. And then what happened is I
Speaker 6: have seen I was uh a police in Brazil, I
Speaker 6: say police in Brazil for about several years, and I learned, uh,
Speaker 6: no matter how the premin now uh like comes to
Speaker 6: different countries, they are the same. They don't change. They
Speaker 6: don't come here to change, They don't come here to
Speaker 6: get a better life, coming here to committ prime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we've seen all of that. FOSCO. First of all,
Speaker 2: congratulations for becoming a US citizen. We are fortunate to
Speaker 2: have you as a US citizen. And I hope you'll
Speaker 2: commind you to listen to my program. And is this
Speaker 2: your first time callway, No.
Speaker 6: No, it's the first time. I talked to you. Several times.
Speaker 6: But because I'm driving right now, sometimes it's hard to
Speaker 6: drive and the and the and the speak and then.
Speaker 7: I can't hear it.
Speaker 2: You did a great job. Thank you for listening to
Speaker 2: my program, and thank you for becoming a US citizen.
Speaker 2: You are You're an attribute to this country and I
Speaker 2: appreciate it very much.
Speaker 6: Will You're a great man. You're a great man. I
Speaker 6: like I like to hear your voice every night. You
Speaker 6: always defending the good people, the good the good way.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Bosco, we'll talk again, all right,
Speaker 2: be well, be well, Thanks very much. Good night. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we got a news break coming up. We're a
Speaker 2: little bit late, but I wanted to take Bosco, so
Speaker 2: I got room for you. Six one seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Bosco was on the side of you'll prosecute him here,
Speaker 2: impose a penalty, and send him home to serve the penalty. Uh,
Speaker 2: I'm you know you heard what my position was. I'd
Speaker 2: love to know what you think. This is kind of
Speaker 2: a dilemma. People are here, they commit serious crimes. We're
Speaker 2: not talking about jaywalking. We're talking about, in this particular instance,
Speaker 2: rape of a five year old girl on several occasions.
Speaker 2: I would like to see the guy do at least
Speaker 2: twenty years maybe more. Six one seven two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty six, one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: We're coming right back on Night Side.
Speaker 1: It's Night's Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we're talking about that. You're gonna hear a
Speaker 2: lot about this in the last in the next few
Speaker 2: weeks and months, and that is, how do we come
Speaker 2: up with an immigration policy that conserve the entire country.
Speaker 2: We want to be fair, but we also want to
Speaker 2: protect borders. Now, if you're somebody who's an open border
Speaker 2: person and want to tell me why it's great to
Speaker 2: have open borders, then that's fine. But remember, if you
Speaker 2: have open borders, you don't have a country. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's as simple as that. Every legitimate country in the
Speaker 2: world has borders, and those borders are enforceable. However, we
Speaker 2: have within Massachusetts and within a lot of other states,
Speaker 2: we have constituencies and sometimes they vote and elect city
Speaker 2: councilors and mayors and all of that, and they want
Speaker 2: to treat everybody here the same. Now, it does matter
Speaker 2: to me whether you're here legally or illegally. Does matter
Speaker 2: to me if you're fortunate to be a citizen and
Speaker 2: be born here, which I was, and perhaps you were. Look,
Speaker 2: thank you, lucky stars. It's as simple as that. We
Speaker 2: need to have more people come like Bosco, my last
Speaker 2: caller to come here legally. The question, though, is if
Speaker 2: someone has committed a serious crime, and if you read
Speaker 2: the Globe article today, this was a serious crime. This
Speaker 2: individual lived for years in Connecticut, had several children down there,
Speaker 2: and had low level convictions of disturbing the peace. At
Speaker 2: some point he moved to Massachusetts and in two separate cases,
Speaker 2: was charged with attempted rape in twenty nineteen and in
Speaker 2: twenty two with attacking a woman he was dating. Both
Speaker 2: of those cases were dismissed, no clarification why they were dismissed.
Speaker 2: While Hernandez Rhodas dated the girl's mother for a short time,
Speaker 2: they remained in contact, and in May of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: the girl, ten years old at the time, told her
Speaker 2: sister and mother he'd been assaulting her, including as recently
Speaker 2: as that Memorial Day weekend. Prosecutors wrote in court filings, Look,
Speaker 2: this guy should be held, he should be tried in Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: and he should face whatever penalty he is convicted for
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. Now, apparently some of the Feds want to
Speaker 2: just get him out of the country. I don't think
Speaker 2: that sets a good precedent, and I think that people
Speaker 2: should understand that if they commit a crime, particularly a
Speaker 2: violent crime. Oh, if you get someone here's illegally and
Speaker 2: you want to get rid of him, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: Give them due process, prove that they're here illegally, get
Speaker 2: them out. But if they commit a violent crime, I
Speaker 2: want him punished. Now. My friend Bosco, who spoke just
Speaker 2: a moment ago, he said, hey, don't keep them here,
Speaker 2: don't pay for their incarceration. Look, I think it's well
Speaker 2: worth it to make sure that they serve their crime
Speaker 2: and serve their time. Bosco disagree with me, That's okay.
Speaker 2: Let me go next to Mark in New Hampshion, Mark
Speaker 2: next to Leside, Locome.
Speaker 8: I hopefully our conversation can go much more civil the
Speaker 8: last time I called. But yeah, let's give it a shot. So, uh,
Speaker 8: I'm actually in agreement with one of the things you said,
Speaker 8: and that the criminal aliens, and the one that comes
Speaker 8: mostly to my mind is the uh Venezuelan gang banger
Speaker 8: who murdered and Uhlke and Riley in Georgia.
Speaker 2: That's a high Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8: Now this individual is where I agree with you that
Speaker 8: he should be given due process, as would any other
Speaker 8: criminal in the United States tried before twelve jurors or
Speaker 8: a bench trial, if that's what they wanted. And uh,
Speaker 8: even if this man, uh actually shouldn't call him that,
Speaker 8: but uh, he even if he was found not guilty. Okay,
Speaker 8: at that point, you would deport him to that back
Speaker 8: to Venezuela if he was found not guilt.
Speaker 9: If he was found.
Speaker 8: Guilty, excuse me, then he would serve, hopefully and not
Speaker 8: be paroled, but serve the full amount of time that
Speaker 8: the judge, and hopefully it wouldn't be a liberal judge
Speaker 8: that would that would sentence him to the for life imprisonment,
Speaker 8: would without parole. I don't know what Georgia has.
Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever the judge decides, Okay, if it's a case
Speaker 2: that that mandates up to an including life imprison and fine,
Speaker 2: but I mean, whatever the judge imposes. My question that is,
Speaker 2: does he serve it here? I think he should serve
Speaker 2: it here. I know there's a cost associated with that
Speaker 2: serving it here, but I think that justice needs to
Speaker 2: be done here. And I don't trust a lot of
Speaker 2: these countries because a lot of these countries. And again,
Speaker 2: with no disrespect to any country in the world. You
Speaker 2: could send someone back to China and they could turn
Speaker 2: them free. The next day. You could send some back
Speaker 2: to England and they could have a change the government
Speaker 2: and two years from now turn them out. Let him,
Speaker 2: let him pay. The BOSCO disagrees with me, but.
Speaker 8: All right, let me let me just say this, okay.
Speaker 8: One of the major reasons I moved out of Massachusetts,
Speaker 8: uh three and a half years ago was because it
Speaker 8: is a it's a one party rule, and you have
Speaker 8: it now where you have apparently the governor, uh, the
Speaker 8: Attorney General, the folks in the state House, and even
Speaker 8: the police commissioner who and you're not going to like
Speaker 8: to hear me say this, but I'm going to say
Speaker 8: it anyway, is a DEI hire. Okay, you know I
Speaker 8: will know that.
Speaker 2: Folks, First of all, you don't know anything about it.
Speaker 2: Please don't go there with that. You don't know anything
Speaker 2: about Michael cost First of all, First of all, he's
Speaker 2: black police commission in bo.
Speaker 8: That has nothing to do with color.
Speaker 2: I guess we've I guess we've reached the end of
Speaker 2: the line again. If you want to quibble over that.
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm talking about tonight.
Speaker 8: I just want to make one more comments. You can
Speaker 8: hang up on me.
Speaker 2: Why don't you know I'm not going to hang up
Speaker 2: on you. But I'm going to say, retract the comment
Speaker 2: because the comment is unjustified. And if you don't want
Speaker 2: to retract the comment, we'll end it there.
Speaker 8: I'm not going to retract the court.
Speaker 2: That's it, Okay, your choice, six six, one, seven, nine.
Speaker 2: I mean, can you stay on topic, Mark, that's all.
Speaker 2: That's all. I'm still trying to figure out what you
Speaker 2: disagree with me on. But that's fine. Let's focus on
Speaker 2: what we're talking about here. If people who are here
Speaker 2: illegally commit a serious crime, I believe they should be
Speaker 2: tried uh and if found guilty, detained in Massachusetts to
Speaker 2: serve their sentence here. The Globe article today does suggest
Speaker 2: that the federal authorities want to deport them immediately, irrespective
Speaker 2: of what they're what the crime is. I mean, if
Speaker 2: someone is here illegally and they get nailed for something
Speaker 2: like I don't know, pick pocketing or something like that,
Speaker 2: convict them and get them out of here. But on
Speaker 2: a serious crime, I think they got to you do
Speaker 2: the crime you got to do at the time, doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if you're an American citizen or if you're here illegally.
Speaker 2: I got a couple of open lines. If you want,
Speaker 2: we will change topics. If this is not of interest
Speaker 2: to you, we can change topics at ten o'clock six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: I think it's an important issue. I hope you do
Speaker 2: as well. Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: By the way, just as a programming note, tomorrow night
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock, we'll be talking with the US Attorney, UH,
Speaker 2: the newly appointed US Attorney for Massachusetts, Leah B. Foley.
Speaker 2: She will be an interesting guest. To get the US
Speaker 2: Attorney to come on and not only talk to me,
Speaker 2: but to take calls from callers. UH is something that
Speaker 2: we've done before, but it is always I think very
Speaker 2: important to here from one of the most important law
Speaker 2: enforcement positions in the entire cormwalth of Massachusetts, if not
Speaker 2: frankly the most important law enforcement a position in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Luciana in Pennsylvania. Luciano next on Nightsiger,
Speaker 2: right ahead.
Speaker 7: Thank you Dan for taking my car.
Speaker 10: Just let me say this as a Puerto Rican I
Speaker 10: like what Nikki Haley said.
Speaker 9: She put in.
Speaker 10: As a South Carolina as governor, she put in he
Speaker 10: verify and that's very effective for them were migrating. They
Speaker 10: were leaving South Carolina because we verify and moving to Alaba.
Speaker 2: About the issue close, I'm trying to get people to
Speaker 2: focus on what we're talking about. Yes, someone is here illegally.
Speaker 2: Let me let me just refresh your recollection with the questions. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if someone is here illegally and they commit a serious
Speaker 2: violent crime like the one we're talking about. This guy
Speaker 2: who began raping a little girl when she was five,
Speaker 2: and it continued apparently until she was ten years of age,
Speaker 2: over five years in various locations. Yes, if he is
Speaker 2: convicted of child rape, that carries up to potentially life
Speaker 2: in prison. Although unfortunately many, as I understand, the mean
Speaker 2: sentences for people who have committed child rape is not
Speaker 2: nearly as serious as most of us would like. But
Speaker 2: put that aside. If this guy is convicted and then
Speaker 2: sentenced to twenty years or thirty years or whatever. Where
Speaker 2: should he serve that sentence here or in the country
Speaker 2: that he emigrated illegally from?
Speaker 10: Okay, he should serve the cub in the United States.
Speaker 9: What thirty six trillion dollars in dead dare?
Speaker 10: How the hell are we going to support all these
Speaker 10: mass illegal invasions. Yes, serve them here and then build
Speaker 10: to complete the wall and then send them back because
Speaker 10: what thirty six trillion dollars? What bankrupt?
Speaker 2: Brother?
Speaker 10: And we're going down like the Titanic.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Luciana, appreciate your vankation. Thank you very much
Speaker 2: of a great night. Tough getting people on topics sometimes.
Speaker 2: Let me go to John and Maine. John, you're next
Speaker 2: on Nightside.
Speaker 7: Welcome, Hi, Dan, how are you? I'll try to stay
Speaker 7: on topic. I do. I do agree with you. I
Speaker 7: think correct. You should be arrested here, tried here, sentenced here,
Speaker 7: and he can do his time here. I'm willing to
Speaker 7: sholl out a few tax dollars to take care of that.
Speaker 7: But to me, when I think of this whole immigration
Speaker 7: migration problem, Trump closed this border. I'm not a big
Speaker 7: Trump fan, but if he does nothing else than what
Speaker 7: he just did, I mean, that's step one close the
Speaker 7: border and the rest of these problems. How we treat
Speaker 7: you know, a serious criminal like we're talking about, that's
Speaker 7: one thing. In how we treat somebody that's you know,
Speaker 7: here illegally, that's another thing, you know, I mean, it's complicated.
Speaker 2: Let me. I think you're right on the money, and
Speaker 2: I agree with you totally. As I mentioned to Bosco,
Speaker 2: who was our.
Speaker 7: First called to Nicey. I heard him nice in.
Speaker 2: That doesn't enforce its own borders, is no longer a country.
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: And you want to be fair and all of that.
Speaker 2: And and by the way, I'm someone who believes that
Speaker 2: we need more legal immigration. We only need.
Speaker 7: I'm with you. I work in the hotel and restaurant business,
Speaker 7: and you know, I mean we you know today you know,
Speaker 7: I'm dealing with Peruvians, Colombians, Guatemalans, and they're wonderful, hard working,
Speaker 7: you know, decent people, and they're certainly welcome in this
Speaker 7: country as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but I think they have to come
Speaker 2: in in an orderly fashion. We need to know who
Speaker 2: they are, in my opinion, Yeah, and uh and and
Speaker 2: then with with that knowledge, in some cases, I've said
Speaker 2: that you people who come in and and and and
Speaker 2: and pick fruits and vegetables. You know, if they come
Speaker 2: in right legally, and then in the off season return
Speaker 2: to the home and they come back over certain numbers
Speaker 2: of years, they can build up credits which might put
Speaker 2: them on the road to becoming a legal citizen. If
Speaker 2: they put them on the road, they become a legal
Speaker 2: immigrant if they want. We just got to start writing
Speaker 2: outside the box. But I agree with you. I think
Speaker 2: that the Trump administration is evil is able to close
Speaker 2: the borders, and I think in the first month they've
Speaker 2: had some results. We have to rely upon these statistics
Speaker 2: that I.
Speaker 7: Know they're a little little shaky, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if those statistics are accurate, and if
Speaker 2: there's also an element of self deportation where people he's
Speaker 2: never going to be able to deport eleven million people.
Speaker 7: I think that's right. And yeah, that part of the issue,
Speaker 7: that part of the issue that you just brought up.
Speaker 7: Can't deport eleven million people, I think we have to.
Speaker 7: Nobody's been thinking outside the box on that. I think
Speaker 7: we need to do something these people. You know, maybe
Speaker 7: we can offer them temp rary work visas. I don't know,
Speaker 7: you know, but just get them registered, get them, you know,
Speaker 7: get them certified, get them, you know, off from it,
Speaker 7: because we do need these workers. There's no doubt my
Speaker 7: mind about it. I mean it's anecdotal, but everything, John.
Speaker 2: For a long time, the Republicans kind of stayed away
Speaker 2: from this issue because they were you know what, they
Speaker 2: were called the country clutter Republicans. I didn't mean to
Speaker 2: put you into a position, but the Democrats were looking
Speaker 2: at them as an infusion of potential new voters because
Speaker 2: as the team, which they're not well, but they're losing
Speaker 2: at this point, they're losing a lot of the traditional
Speaker 2: you know, believe it or not. Donald Trump got more
Speaker 2: black voters, got more voters before him. So again I
Speaker 2: think I think you're right on target, and I appreciate
Speaker 2: you taking the time.
Speaker 7: Hey love the show, Dan, always do. I listened to
Speaker 7: you on my way home and always appreciate it. Okay,
Speaker 7: very much, pretty good work, my friend.
Speaker 2: Let me go next to Jack on the Cape Jack
Speaker 2: from Cape Card. Jackie may be the last on this
Speaker 2: issue tonight, got it or at least this hour?
Speaker 9: Go ahead, Jack, Hey, Dan, I got a third option
Speaker 9: for you. What's that We'll send them to work camps
Speaker 9: in Siberia.
Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately we don't control Siberia. We could send them
Speaker 2: to Guitanamo. I mean there's a apparently.
Speaker 9: There's I think mister Putin and mister Trump could come
Speaker 9: up with a good deal.
Speaker 2: Well I would hope not. I mean, yeah, that's fine, Okay, fixed, Jack, we.
Speaker 9: Have joking okay, man, Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, Jack, appreciate it. Let me go next to
Speaker 2: a coptic in Boston. Coptic, you're a little late here,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to try to get you and go ahead. Coptic.
Speaker 9: How are you doing, Dan, I'm.
Speaker 2: Doing just great. What's your thought on this, Coptic? If
Speaker 2: someone is here legally and they're convicted of a violent crime,
Speaker 2: where do they serve this sentence here or the country
Speaker 2: from which they came.
Speaker 9: I believe if we live, we we we kept it here.
Speaker 9: We get that it's gonna cost the government too much,
Speaker 9: so and then we pay Texas and all the Texas
Speaker 9: goes to these criminals. My opinion is I have an idea.
Speaker 9: For example, in Mexico, we can the government can build
Speaker 9: a prison between the border of Mexico and the United States.
Speaker 9: Under the supervision of US.
Speaker 2: So if there is anyments, a lot of money too coptic,
Speaker 2: I hate to I hate to tell you that, and
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know that the area
Speaker 2: between the US border and the Mexican border, I believe
Speaker 2: it's contiguous.
Speaker 9: I want I'm saying, I want to say that the
Speaker 9: Mexican government can take care of him, but every while,
Speaker 9: like some official police or whatever they call the official form,
Speaker 9: they can go there and be sure that this criminal
Speaker 9: he spent his time there. So that way, okay, I
Speaker 9: got it, Comic, I'm not sure that.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that that's realistic, but I appreciate your calling,
Speaker 2: even though you called late. Unfortunately, I'm flat out of time,
Speaker 2: so I gotta I gotta let you go. As always,
Speaker 2: Thank thanks, more time, Thanks very much, good night. All right.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we will change topics. And there's
Speaker 2: a new poll out that maybe maybe Americans are losing
Speaker 2: faith in airlines. I'd love to know what you think
Speaker 2: if the last few weeks of air traffic accidents a
Speaker 2: couple of wells, The tragic, most tragic one was over
Speaker 2: the Potomac, but then you see the one in Toronto.
Speaker 2: What happened today and I played out of Atlanta. Does
Speaker 2: it giving you second thoughts about flying? There's some polls
Speaker 2: out tonight which suggests.
Speaker 3: That's just that.
Speaker 2: We'll talk on the other side of the ten here
Speaker 2: a Nights one