WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:04.040 I have a feeling either Larry Foehmer is excited about 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:07.120 the song or judging us entirely that were playing music 3 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:11.000 from Rocky Because we're at a boxing facility. We're live today, 4 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:13.599 super exciting day. We would love to meet you guys, 5 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:17.280 come on down and say lo. Legacy Fulfilled forty years 6 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:20.320 in the making at the former Legacy Center at one 7 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:22.800 oh nine six zero South Park Road and friend of 8 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:24.879 the show Larry Folmer is our guest on. 9 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:27.879 A Friday, the Happiest of Fridays to you, sir. 10 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:30.719 How you doing and into the Happy Friday? Sure is 11 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:32.600 thank you. I'm doing well well. 12 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:34.840 Thanks so much for having us. I don't even know 13 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:37.600 where to start. I mean, I was walking around the facility. 14 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:40.799 This looks top notch. I just want to know how 15 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:43.159 you're doing today, Like, what are the emotions that are 16 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:43.960 going through you today? 17 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:46.640 You know, I did my crying last night when I 18 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:48.799 was kind of preparing for this, and then this morning 19 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.320 at the ribbon cutting, I got pretty emotional. 20 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:54.960 It's a This is a legacy. 21 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:58.439 For Jean Jay and Don Foemer, my dad and uncles, 22 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:02.079 and it's been something that we've been working on for 23 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.719 a long time. We've always wanted to have our own facility. 24 00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:08.280 And I don't know if I've ever shared the history 25 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.879 with you, but you know, when dad and my uncle's 26 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:16.799 retired from boxing, they always wanted to work with the kids, 27 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:19.799 just like Marv Jensen did with them, and was always 28 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:21.680 free for the kids in the whole in the Whole 29 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:24.400 valley at Marv Jensen's place. And you were a part 30 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.200 of the West Jordan Boxing Club and they wanted to 31 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:31.319 do the same thing. So they spent forty years. We 32 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:35.159 spent forty years helping kids and it's always been, always 33 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.799 been free for the kids. We started in the chicken 34 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:41.280 coop in Riverton and then we got kicked out of 35 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:43.640 the chicken coop when and we were able to go 36 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:47.480 to an old elementary school in Riverton, and we were 37 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:50.000 there for a few years. Then Riverton wanted to turn 38 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:53.480 that into the city hall, and so we contacted West 39 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:55.480 Jordan and they let us go to an old church 40 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:58.799 there where the fire station is now on Redwood Road, 41 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:01.519 and we were there for a few years and then 42 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:04.799 they were tearing the church down to build the fire station. 43 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.000 They put us in the old sugar factory building in 44 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:11.400 West Jordan and then when the fire station got completed, 45 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:13.479 they put us in the old fire station. We were 46 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:18.120 there for quite a few years. Then I got a 47 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:21.120 call one day and said that we need this building back. 48 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.560 And so I called my good friend Greg Hughes, who 49 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:27.120 is a big supporter of boxing. 50 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:29.919 And it's nice to have politicians. 51 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:33.560 As friends, for sure, for sure, and he contacted Randy 52 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:37.520 Horiucci and the mayor of Salt Lake County and we 53 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:41.280 got a place on the west side of the Equestrian Park, 54 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:43.039 a little building, and so we've used that for the 55 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:47.400 last fourteen years, and then to move to this this 56 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.639 is just unbelievable. We've been raising money for the last 57 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:54.280 eight years. We formed a foundation, the former Legacy Foundation, 58 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:58.280 and we've had a lot of people helping us, a 59 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:03.599 lot of foundations to call foundation, the Daniels Foundation, Eccles Foundation, 60 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:10.919 the America Credit, American First Credit Union, Mountain America Credit Union, 61 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:15.919 in Golden West Credit Union. I mean, just lots of people, 62 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:22.159 grimal construction of VCBO architects. Anyway, there's been a lot 63 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:25.159 of people. I'm missing some, but I'm nervous. 64 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:25.840 No, all good. 65 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:27.599 You don't have to be nervous with me. It's just 66 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:29.199 me and you talking. You know this, Larry, We've been 67 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:32.479 doing this long enough and we should shout out Mountain 68 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:35.360 America Credit Union. As we were starting the show, you 69 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.759 were in this boxing ring rink ahead of us, boxing 70 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:40.919 ring ahead of us. Excepting a check for two hundred 71 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:43.199 and fifty thousand dollars. 72 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:46.159 That's amazing. We were able to raise. 73 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:51.039 Just over five million dollars for the seven million dollars 74 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:54.840 at the building cost. And then we've had kind of 75 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:57.520 a dry spell and then we've got these steek credit 76 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:59.639 unions that have come come through to help us a 77 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.319 little bit, and you know, quite a bit actually, and 78 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:05.240 Celtic Bank has helped give us a loan so that 79 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.000 we could get finish the construction and then we'll just 80 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:10.879 keep working on raising money to pay that off. So 81 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.360 that's that's where we're at now. But it will always 82 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.839 be free for the kids here in the box. This facility, 83 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:22.519 like you can see, is nice enough that for the 84 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:25.040 electricity and the heating and everything else is going to 85 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:28.839 be a constant fund fundraising. So we'll we'll have some 86 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:32.199 programs during the day for fitness classes and that kind 87 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:36.040 of thing with memberships so that we can and we'll 88 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:40.759 also rent it out for for some functions in that 89 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:42.800 other boxing clubs want to use it. 90 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:45.519 And we can fit almost five hundred people in here. 91 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:48.160 I was I was gonna ask, do you anticipate having 92 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:50.839 events fights where people can come, you know, check out 93 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:52.000 some of your rising stars. 94 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:52.360 Yes. 95 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.839 So the bleachers each pull out there. We can fit 96 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:58.600 one hundred people in each section. We have a hundred 97 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:02.040 chairs that fit here, and we have another one hundred 98 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:04.199 people up at the top and VIP. 99 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:07.720 Seating nice, and so it's a really a neat place. 100 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:10.319 We were able. Things happened so quickly. 101 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:13.079 We were supposed to be finished with construction in December, 102 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.560 and so we scheduled our Golden Gloves tournaments in March April, 103 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:18.800 and all of a sudden, March is here and it's 104 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:19.279 not done. 105 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.160 Sure, well, I said, we got to have it done. 106 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.600 And we worked with the South organ City and they 107 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.199 brought then temporary occupancy permit. 108 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.600 While people were coming in for our state tournament. So 109 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:32.439 it was just so it was. 110 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:35.279 And we had the place packed with people, and so 111 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.720 it was really an exciting because look where the ring is, 112 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:41.920 everybody's right on top of that, and we turn out 113 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:44.000 the house lights, and those lights are over the ring 114 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:45.360 and it's a very professional. 115 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:46.720 It's a neat thing for the kids. 116 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.000 I've got to say, I love the old school posters 117 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:50.639 that you have surrounding the boxing ring. 118 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:51.879 Yeah. 119 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:54.680 So are these posters that your family has just kind 120 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:56.959 of kept in storage waiting for the right moment or 121 00:05:56.959 --> 00:05:58.920 throughout the course of your nomadic existence? 122 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:00.360 Have they followed you around a bit? 123 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:01.920 Let me tell you the story of those. 124 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:06.279 So my dad he saved most of his a lot 125 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:09.360 of his posters when he could, and Uncle Jean had 126 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.879 a few, and my uncle Jay had a few. Well, 127 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:14.160 they in the gym that they had, they were stapling 128 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:18.160 them and taping them to the walls. And I went 129 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:23.240 to the Canastota, the International Boxing Hall of Fame a 130 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:27.120 few times, and I was in a trade show there 131 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.480 going looking at some of the memorabilia that they had 132 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.959 for boxing. And there was a poster signed by my 133 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:36.199 uncle Jean and by Carlin Bassilio, and it was an 134 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:38.680 original poster, and I said that would be neat to take. 135 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:39.560 To the gym for sure. 136 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:41.199 So I walked up and I said how much is 137 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:43.399 that poster? And the guy says, well, you're too late. 138 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:45.720 The person in front of you just paid four thousand 139 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:48.399 dollars for and I'm going they're worth. 140 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:49.079 That much money. 141 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:52.639 And so I came home and took all of the 142 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:54.839 posters down in the gym. I went and had them 143 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.879 digitally re enhanced and then then framed and so that 144 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:01.079 we could hang them up here so they wouldn't get ruined. 145 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.120 It's awesome, no, I mean truly, they're like old school 146 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:07.759 boxing posters that you see in old movies, and they're 147 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:08.759 surrounding this ring. 148 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:09.920 Tell me about the ring. 149 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.240 I mean again, I'm kind of a boxing neo fight 150 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:17.040 I love watching fights, and I've watched fights my entire life. 151 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:19.319 But tell us about this beautiful ring that you guys 152 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:19.680 have built. 153 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:23.319 So the ring is a twenty four twenty four foot 154 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.600 well this one is twenty two feet excuse me, and 155 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:31.800 it's a I mean, they rings range from eighteen to 156 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.079 twenty four feet. That's kind of the normal range for 157 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:39.600 amateur and professional boxing rings. And so to give us 158 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:42.040 a little more room on the sides, we went we 159 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:44.879 traded our twenty four foot ring for twenty two foot ring. 160 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:50.040 It's beautiful, a beautiful setting, and the people up from 161 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:52.360 the top in the on the second floor, are looking 162 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:55.120 right down on it, and it's and we have a 163 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:58.680 running crack up there. It's a this is I just 164 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:02.199 can't I'm just amazed myself. I've been meeting here every 165 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:06.720 week for almost two years ago BCBO who is our 166 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:11.680 architects and Grimal Construction, and I've just seen it from 167 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:15.120 the ground up, and took me about six months to 168 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:17.399 quit crying every time I come here. I thought, this 169 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:19.879 isn't real. I can't even I have to pinch myself. 170 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:22.720 And this is just a dream come true. 171 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.079 Larry, It's top shelf, it's first class. I mean, everything 172 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:29.120 is great, everything feels really new. I want to read 173 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:32.799 this quote from your uncle Jay on the wall because 174 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:34.600 I want to get into kind of what you hope 175 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:36.840 this thing turns into for the children in our community. 176 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:38.679 And your uncle Jay said quote. 177 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:41.000 We're not saying everybody's getting up to be a champion, 178 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.200 but I guarantee you if they keep coming down, they'll 179 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.799 be better kids and they'll be better citizens. 180 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:46.960 And that's all we can ask. 181 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.720 So when it comes to the effect you guys hope 182 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.519 to have on the children that come here again for 183 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:55.519 free to train and learn the lessons that boxing teaches them. 184 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.159 What is kind of the hope that this thing manifests into. 185 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.080 That quote says it all because I don't know how 186 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.759 Uncle Jay come up with that, actually, but he said that, 187 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.720 And it's just been kind of our our theme here. 188 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:14.639 You know, most of these kids aren't going to be 189 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:17.600 make it big. You don't want to ever take their 190 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:20.360 dream away, but that's the reality. It's like football or 191 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:23.639 basketball or anything else. But it gives them something to 192 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:26.840 do to come off the off the off the streets sometimes. 193 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.879 And the majority of the kids in our club are 194 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:35.200 our minorities. A lot of them come from really sad 195 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:39.440 backgrounds and and homes that aren't the best. And the 196 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:43.240 coaches in that here, which by the way, volunteer thousands 197 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:47.519 of hours of time, become their mentors just like their fathers. 198 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.600 And I mean, I've got coaches that will go pick 199 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:53.279 the kids up from school to bring them here. They 200 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:56.080 check their grades. And in fact, in this building in 201 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:00.000 the back here we have a tutoring room with computers. 202 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:00.759 That's awesome. 203 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:04.759 The help of the kids homework and stuff, and uh, 204 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:06.960 we just want to make him better, better kids and 205 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:08.879 if we can make a difference in their life, that's 206 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:09.440 what you want. 207 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.399 You know, I can I can recall the first time 208 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:14.200 you came in a studio a couple of years ago. 209 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:17.519 You brought a young man who was preparing for a fight, 210 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.639 and we were able to sit down and interview him, 211 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:24.440 and he referenced, you know, the fact that away from 212 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:26.639 the ring, because of the lessons he had learned here, 213 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:30.320 he was leaning into starting his very own business. And 214 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:31.559 it's sorry, go ahead. 215 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.960 Yeah no, And that there was one of them that 216 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:36.120 were you just just walked by. 217 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:37.639 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. 218 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:40.840 He's a he's a barber and has his own business. 219 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:41.440 That's great. 220 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.559 He still comes a gym and still and still boxes. 221 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:49.759 We had another young man, uh uh that you that 222 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:52.440 you've interviewed also, Milo. 223 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:53.840 Milo, That's what I was thinking. 224 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:55.759 Yeah, yeah, he boxed for us. 225 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:59.639 We took him to the state and regional and national 226 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:03.120 tournament and now he has his own boxing gym and 227 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:06.440 is doing very well with it. And it's just that's 228 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:08.559 what we want to see happen. Sure, it's just so 229 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:10.960 so neat to see happen. 230 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:11.399 Sure. 231 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.519 Sure, So where can people go get more information? Because 232 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:16.600 as you said, and I just want to reiterate to 233 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:18.960 the community, we need to do our part to keep 234 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:21.120 this thing ticking. Because it's one thing to build it, 235 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:22.879 it's another thing to open it. Now we just have 236 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.279 to sustain it. So Larry, where can people go get 237 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:25.879 more information? 238 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:31.000 So if you go to the former Legacy dot org website, 239 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.279 that will give you a little history and we'll give 240 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.039 you some information on where the address and so forth 241 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.320 of our gym. Our gym is open for the kids. 242 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:47.320 It's open at six o'clock in the evening till eight 243 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:52.639 thirty or nine at night Monday through Thursday. And also 244 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.279 there's a place on the website that'll give you information 245 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:59.159 on donations because we certainly will be able to need 246 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.879 them for our programs and and we'll be doing other 247 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:04.120 programs here too. 248 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:05.759 Uh. 249 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:13.080 You know, neurological diseases respond well to the training of boxing. 250 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.960 Interesting not getting hit in the heads, but the but 251 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:21.120 the actual the footwork, the coordination, uh, the the appropriate reception. 252 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:24.000 We are live here at the former Legacy Center one 253 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.519 O nine six zero South Park Road. Look, I know 254 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:28.279 you've got a ton of people they want to talk 255 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:29.120 to you and a lot to do. 256 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.000 So let's take a couple of minutes to talk. 257 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.879 About maybe some upcoming events and now people maybe can 258 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.080 come out and take tours and you know some things 259 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:37.159 that we have coming up out. 260 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:38.200 Here at the former Legacy Center. 261 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:39.080 So we have. 262 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:45.799 Come out here today any anytime here for the next 263 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:49.200 few hours, we'll be here uh and we'll give you 264 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.919 a tour of the building. It's also open uh six 265 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:58.919 to nine a night from Monday through Thursday, and you 266 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:03.159 can get get a night of the facility and talk 267 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:03.600 to Ted. 268 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.879 Ted Rule will always be here. He's our head coach 269 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:08.879 and he'll be. 270 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:14.000 He'll be happy to help you get the signed up 271 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:16.720 or at least give you give you a look at things. Things. 272 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:18.440 So we have a lot of things. We even have 273 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:21.759 virtual reality boxing. That's what's happening over here for for 274 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:26.240 some of the people that it's just it's just coming 275 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:29.879 up that'll actually be able to have tournaments all over 276 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:35.519 the world with virtual reality. The gentleman here Aaron Sloan 277 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:41.200 from Tulsa, Oklahoma. I flew in and and to demonstrate 278 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.480 it here. But yeah, we will have a start a 279 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:47.360 national Golden Gloves tournament in a week and that's where 280 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:51.840 we'll be going. Our team will be in Tulsa starting 281 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:56.679 on the tenth of May till the eighteenth. We're hoping 282 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:59.799 to bring home a couple of championships at least. 283 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:04.200 Very nice from that, can you give us some names 284 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:06.080 and maybe some of your top contenders that we can 285 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:06.720 watch out for. 286 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:09.120 Is that kind of to be determined? 287 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.720 That's that's kind of to be determined. Okay, Okay, got 288 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:15.960 some good kids. In fact, some of them are some 289 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.399 of them are here. I can't point them out. You know, 290 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:20.399 they look different without their head gear in boxing. 291 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.879 That's why I did. This is one of your fighters 292 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:24.360 over here. 293 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:24.679 Though, right? 294 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.600 Oh yeah, okay, that's he's the dailest okay. 295 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:30.200 And he was there last year with us, that's right, 296 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.600 and uh and he did. He did pretty well for 297 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:37.879 the experience that he's had. And he's he didn't participate 298 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.080 in the in the regional tournament this year because he 299 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.200 was busy with work and didn't have enough time to train. 300 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:45.639 And now sure, sure he'll be back. He'll be back 301 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:47.399 at and he promised me for next year. 302 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:47.879 There you go. 303 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.759 Let me ask you this question because I was genuinely curious. 304 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:53.279 I'm not a great sleeper, and so last night I'm 305 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:55.960 flipping through channels and I settled on this dope movie 306 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:58.320 Born on the fourth of July. I think it is 307 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:00.879 where Tom Cruise is a race car drive and this 308 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:03.559 old crusty coach comes up to him and says, I 309 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:03.919 know a. 310 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:06.480 Race car driver. Want to see one? Do you know 311 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:06.960 a boxer? 312 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:07.519 When you see one? 313 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:07.759 Oh? 314 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:11.399 Yes, you can tell who he's got. Who's got some 315 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:12.200 juice right away? 316 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:13.960 Yeah? Yeah, pretty well. 317 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:16.240 You look at their talent, I mean as far as 318 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:19.600 their balance and their footwork, and their and their speed, 319 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:23.320 and then their heart. So boxer has to have a lot, 320 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:26.000 a lot of heart. It's we were talking about this 321 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:30.600 with Deontay Wilder last night at dinner. It's uh, it 322 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.240 takes a lot of heart and a lot of stamina. 323 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:36.240 And he was talking about how, you know, in coming 324 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:39.440 in the tenth round of a twelve round championship fight, 325 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.440 how you want to just sometimes just quit, but you 326 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:47.679 know you don't. You're just going on instinct and and 327 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:49.519 on heart and determination. 328 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:51.399 And that's what makes a champion. 329 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:54.159 Sure sure is. Now there's a rumor that Deontay Wilder 330 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:55.200 may make an appearance. 331 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:57.840 He better make an appearance. 332 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:01.679 Okay, there, let's go. What's the nature of that relationship? 333 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:04.159 He'll be here. So his manager and I are good friends. 334 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.080 We were on the boxing He is manager and trainer 335 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:11.159 in Alabama. I was on the boxing commission in Utah 336 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:13.279 and he was in Alabama and we'd have meetings and 337 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:16.000 so we've known each other for twenty five or thirty 338 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.480 years and kept in contact. And Deontay has been with 339 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:25.440 with Jay Dees for since day one and Deontay if 340 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:28.679 I refereed one of Deontay's fights in the National Golden 341 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:32.039 Glove tournament and when he took the National Golden Glove championship, 342 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:35.279 and then Deontay went on to. 343 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:38.519 Be our only medal winner in the Olympics that the. 344 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:40.679 Year that he fought the Olympics, he was a bronze 345 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:43.399 medal winner, and then they become a world champion. And 346 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:48.440 he's had those three fights with the Tyson Fury. He's 347 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:50.559 going to have one more fight coming up in June 348 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:53.759 in Wichitan. If he does well there, which you're expecting, 349 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:56.720 then maybe I'd like to see him fight Joshua. 350 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:58.360 Okay, Okay. 351 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:00.200 It would be a good fight because I think he 352 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:05.480 would he would do well against the Joshua. Anyway, It's 353 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:07.599 fun to talk to those kind of guys and get 354 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.960 their perspective of it. But I know that. I'll just 355 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:13.079 give you an example. My dad fought for the world 356 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:18.319 title in San Remo, Italy against Nino ben Venuti fifty 357 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:23.039 that one championships for fifteen rounds and my dad got 358 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.960 the Hong Kong flu epidemic was coming then. That was 359 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:32.319 nineteen sixty eight, and he got sick, but he didn't 360 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:35.079 want to cancel it because cable TV was brand new, 361 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:37.960 the satellite TV was brand was brand new. 362 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.559 In fact, when you see the reruns, you see. 363 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:45.359 Them on the TV explaining, now this fight is in 364 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.079 San Remo, Italy and it's going to go up here. 365 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:50.559 This signal is going to go up here to the satellite. 366 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:52.920 It's going to bounce back down to New York. They 367 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:55.440 had to explain him that new Well, he didn't want 368 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:58.160 to cancel the fight because he knew that he might 369 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:02.039 not get another chance, and he fought. He knocked Benvenudi 370 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.640 down in the seventh round, but my dad said, I 371 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:07.400 don't even remember most of the fight because he was 372 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.720 so exhausted. But he went in fifteen rounds and done well, 373 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:13.400 but not quite good enough to win the world. 374 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:17.599 Time he went fifteen rounds with flu Oh good gracious. 375 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:18.759 But that's what you do with with heart. 376 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:24.759 Uncle Jean of Florentino Fernandez the last three rounds of 377 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.880 the world title fight with a broken arm. He broke, 378 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:30.079 he broke, he broke his arm in the fight, and 379 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:31.920 so all of a sudden, you notice, if you watched 380 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:34.839 the reruns the last few rounds, he was one handed. 381 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:36.799 Wow, and you didn't stop. 382 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.519 That's just that's and like I said, I don't know 383 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:42.279 whether that's smart, but it's the heart of a champion. 384 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:44.759 I love that we have NBA players that won't play 385 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:46.480 one day because they're tired. 386 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:51.440 Out of curiosity? Did your dad and uncles did ever 387 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:52.200 fight each other? 388 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:57.000 And they sparred all the time, but like no, it 389 00:18:57.079 --> 00:18:59.640 was always in the newspaper that that might happen because 390 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:03.799 Uncle Jean won the championship when my dad was and 391 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:06.559 then my dad turned pro and so by the time 392 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:08.680 Uncle Jean was in the end going towards the end 393 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:09.960 of his career, my dad. 394 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:12.119 Was a top ranked middleweight as well. 395 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:16.160 I see, and my grandma was always worried that they 396 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:19.079 were going to that they were going to fight each other, 397 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:22.119 and she was she was feared that that would happen. 398 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:24.240 Yeah, but I don't think they would. 399 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:27.039 I don't think they ever would have fought like the 400 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:30.759 Clinchical brothers, you know they were. They could have, but 401 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:32.480