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<v Speaker 1>Good evening everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Jonathan Myers with the Metaphysical Hour or so.

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<v Speaker 2>This show is a tribute to Dolores Cannon. May her

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<v Speaker 2>next life be as awesome and inspiring as the last.

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<v Speaker 2>To honor the very topic that helped me eventually find

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<v Speaker 2>Dolores in the first place and set me down This

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<v Speaker 2>very spiritual wondering rabbit hole is NDEs near death experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>The world has many answers to explain away the spiritual

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<v Speaker 2>realm and all of us crazies out there that know

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<v Speaker 2>that there's more to this life than just eat, work,

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<v Speaker 2>and sleep, but it struggles to find a real answer

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<v Speaker 2>as to why people keep experiencing near death experiences. To

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<v Speaker 2>the atheist out there, it's just a rush of chemicals

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<v Speaker 2>that is flooding your brain that makes you hallucinate. To

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<v Speaker 2>the religious person out there, it's a visit from the

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<v Speaker 2>heavenly realm from God and his angels, which sounds nice

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<v Speaker 2>until you tell them that it was a light being

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<v Speaker 2>from the Pleiades, and they will just tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>it was only a hallucination or even worse.

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<v Speaker 1>The devil deceiving you.

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<v Speaker 2>But to the open minded individual out there that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have it all figured out, but very curious. Yet the

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<v Speaker 2>near death experiences are nothing short of miracles from the

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<v Speaker 2>other side, proof of an afterlife, proof of reincarnation, proof

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<v Speaker 2>that we shouldn't take our lives so seriously in proof

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to stop worrying so much about the

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<v Speaker 2>material reality, proof that God and universe and source all

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<v Speaker 2>of it exists, or the one is just love. Literally,

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<v Speaker 2>the material realm fooled us, all of us so much

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<v Speaker 2>so that we forget that this realm is more or

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<v Speaker 2>less a dream. So let's get into a few except

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<v Speaker 2>near death experience stories from the best site that I

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<v Speaker 2>know to find them is nderf dot org and derf

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<v Speaker 2>dot org. I do also want to say that if

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever had a near death experience, reach out to

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<v Speaker 2>them and document it for the world to see, because

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<v Speaker 2>you never know how much it might be able to

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<v Speaker 2>help someone, because it surely helped me.

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<v Speaker 1>So for anybody out.

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<v Speaker 2>There that is curious as to what a near death

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<v Speaker 2>experience actually is, I think some people think that, uh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you almost died, so it was near death experience. Most

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<v Speaker 2>of the time, these people actually did die, like flatlined.

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<v Speaker 2>They were out for a couple of minutes, maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>up to an hour. Some of the crazier stories that

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen, and what they were able to experience is

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<v Speaker 2>something that they shouldn't be experiencing. I mean, at least

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<v Speaker 2>not as far as we understand scientifically and of the

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<v Speaker 2>physical world. But there is still something wild that happens

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<v Speaker 2>just about every time. And these are the people that

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<v Speaker 2>come back to tell the tale. Right, So they're they're dead,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for a few minutes, and they experience like timelessness,

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<v Speaker 2>and they experience something otherworldly and they are convinced usually

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<v Speaker 2>to come back by God or by you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>savior or an angel or an ancestor or an alien

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe even them, you know, like there there's no

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<v Speaker 2>limits to this. Yeah, I mean, this is quite astounding

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<v Speaker 2>every single time we read one. But yeah, so, just

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<v Speaker 2>to get the Google definition of what an NDE is,

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<v Speaker 2>a near death experience is a profound personal event that

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<v Speaker 2>occurs when a person is close to or has been

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<v Speaker 2>temporarily pronounced clinically dead, followed by resuscitation. NDEs are characterized

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<v Speaker 2>by vivid, subjective phenomena that can vary, but often include

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<v Speaker 2>a core set of elements. The nature of NDEs is

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<v Speaker 2>debated by scientists and medical professionals, with explanations ranging from

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<v Speaker 2>neurological events to spiritual phenomena. So it kind of goes

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<v Speaker 2>all over and it's up to the interpreter what does

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<v Speaker 2>that person go through whenever they are on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of it. So, so there are common features of

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<v Speaker 2>near death experiences. While no two near death experiences are identical,

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<v Speaker 2>many share similar elements, according to studies conducted by researchers

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<v Speaker 2>like psychiatrist Raymond Moody, look into him if you haven't already,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a beautiful man.

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<v Speaker 1>So some of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Most frequently reported features are out of body sensations, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a feeling of detaching from your physical body and

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<v Speaker 2>observing events from a different perspective, oftentimes from above. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what you'll hear about, is that I look down and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw my body And yeah, we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>into a couple of those stories. Another one is a

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<v Speaker 2>heightened state of mind, a sense of unusual mental clarity

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<v Speaker 2>and rapid thought processes despite the body being in a

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<v Speaker 2>compromised physical state. Now, how do you explain that bodies dead,

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<v Speaker 2>brain shut down, there's no activity really going on, and

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<v Speaker 2>somehow their mind is.

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<v Speaker 1>Working better than it ever has. What a trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Next, you have a movement through a tunnel, not every time,

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<v Speaker 2>most times, though, so the movement through the tunnel is

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<v Speaker 2>a feeling of being drawn into a dark, enclosed space,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes with a brilliant light at the end. Another one

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<v Speaker 2>is encountering a bright light, so seeing an intensely brilliant,

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<v Speaker 2>peaceful and loving light, which sounds kind of wild, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about just a light, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like a It's not a fluorescent light, it's not incandescent light.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even the Sun's light.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the stars light, the moon's light, not any

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<v Speaker 2>light you've ever seen, at least not in the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>physical material, realm. It is a light that literally expresses emotion,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of wild if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's hard to even Pross says that because anytime

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<v Speaker 2>we've ever seen light, we don't associate it with emotion,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't associate.

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<v Speaker 1>It with love.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe there's aspects of it. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>see the sun going down over the ocean, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like, oh it's it's a nice mood and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a beautiful scene or read and maybe there with

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<v Speaker 2>a loved one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's even more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, like this, from what I've read, it's more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>There seems to be a profound sense of serenity, well being,

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<v Speaker 2>and unconditional love, often replacing feelings of pain, Which is

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because you're no longer attached to the body anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>so I guess you wouldn't necessarily feel any kind of pain.

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<v Speaker 2>But if the mind is inside the brain that's inside

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<v Speaker 2>the body, shouldn't you still be feeling some kind of pain.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they're gonna be able to find a way to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tear that apart.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll go on. Then.

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<v Speaker 2>There seems to be just about every time a life review,

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<v Speaker 2>so a rapid and panoramic review of one's past, often

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<v Speaker 2>reliving significant memories and understanding the impact of one's actions.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people meet other beings.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the time people meet other beings, from what

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<v Speaker 2>I've read, encounters with diseased loved ones, religious figures, or

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<v Speaker 2>other spiritual entities, and there usually is a reluctance to return,

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<v Speaker 2>a strong desire to remain in this blissful state, often

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<v Speaker 2>described as a more authentic place than a more authentic

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<v Speaker 2>home than your earthly life. Think about that man, more authentic,

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<v Speaker 2>more home than your earthly home. I mean, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>know that some people don't necessarily feel at home in

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<v Speaker 2>their own home. That's not what this is talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>This is saying that, like, imagine you're at home. You

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<v Speaker 2>have your significant other, maybe you have your kids with you,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you're opening presents on Christmas Day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's as home as it gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you got Michael Blue Blaze Christmas music or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>playing the breath in the background, you drink, it's a megnog,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the ambiance is right tis the season. It

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<v Speaker 2>is the most home you'll ever feel unless you have

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<v Speaker 2>an NDE. And that's what this is saying, more authentically

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<v Speaker 2>home than your earthly life. It goes beyond it because

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<v Speaker 2>there are limitations to this reality, not even just to

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<v Speaker 2>this reality, there's limitations to our conception of this reality,

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<v Speaker 2>like to our understanding of this reality. You think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>we only have five senses, six at most, right, with

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<v Speaker 2>the sixth sense being the intuition or the gut feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you explain just what we were talking about earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever they were seeing the light and sensing emotion from

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<v Speaker 2>the light. Maybe that's a sense that we just don't

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<v Speaker 2>have in the physical realm, you know, and that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>just the only way that that individual could even explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably I'm sure it probably is a lot deeper

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<v Speaker 2>than even just the light had emotion. And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I love looking into these because I just don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what to do with it, you know, but I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to compartmentalize it. Though, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>There were plenty of times where I did try to

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<v Speaker 2>compartmentalize some of these stories, you know, because some of

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<v Speaker 2>them have Jesus, some of them have you know, Muhammed,

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<v Speaker 2>but some of them have Buddha, some of them have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, their ancestors.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them have it's just their higher self. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you compartmentalize that? Some people meet ets, Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they're praying mantises, Maybe they're little grays, could be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the tall Whites, could be, the Pleiadians, whatever, right, the

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<v Speaker 2>Nordics cat beings. I mean, there's no limit. So how

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<v Speaker 2>can you compartmentalize something that has no limit? You can't,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, and what you find is that after

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<v Speaker 2>some time, we only compartmentalize things so that we can

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<v Speaker 2>better understand. And so it's I would say that it's

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<v Speaker 2>only logic to try and compartmentalize it. It's only logic

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<v Speaker 2>to try and make some kind of sense of it

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<v Speaker 2>because our brains don't know what to do. We can't

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<v Speaker 2>leave doors open. It has to be I understand it

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<v Speaker 2>or or it doesn't make sense, right, And that's not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily right. This is mind expanding stuff, not shrinking, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and then science has tried to interpret it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is okay, And we're going to go over that

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure there are people out there that are like,

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<v Speaker 2>surely there needs to be some kind of scientific explanation. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I do want you to keep in mind something though

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<v Speaker 2>science knows how things work, they don't know why it

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<v Speaker 2>works that way. Just a little distinction, so how it works,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as maybe there's some chemicals that are going

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<v Speaker 2>off in the body, maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of this, a little bit of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big cocktail that's going on, big cocktail chemical

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<v Speaker 2>soup inside your body and inside your mind that's causing

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<v Speaker 2>you to quote unquote hallucinate.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So what they say is is that there's neurological activity.

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<v Speaker 2>So it says a cascade of physiological stress during a

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<v Speaker 2>life threatening event may cause certain networks of neurons to

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<v Speaker 2>go into overdrive. There's brain activity that has been shown

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<v Speaker 2>to surge right before death, possibly contributing to the subjective experience,

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<v Speaker 2>which is interesting because it says that there's a brain

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<v Speaker 2>surge rate before death, before they die, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>these people are dead, okay, Like just so we're clear,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're dead. There's no spike on the monitor, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they are put and they're experiencing something. So they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about up intol that moment there seems to be a

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<v Speaker 2>surge and brain activity upright to the edge. But it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't explain what happens after. It says possibly contributing to

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<v Speaker 2>the subjective experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a thing, you know, it's it's subjective.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is why I don't know, I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of go back and forth as far as

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<v Speaker 2>and collect that information, sort it through your mind and

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<v Speaker 2>of restrictive realm of sorts, not restrictive like hell, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean that restrictive in the sense of we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have we don't have all of our abilities, understanding senses.

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<v Speaker 2>then it gets into them the rem intrusion, so the

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<v Speaker 2>rapid eye movement, so a blending of consciousness of conscious states,

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<v Speaker 2>sensations and visual hallucinations. There's a neurochemical release. The brain

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<v Speaker 2>may release a flood of neurochemicals during extreme stress and dwarphins.

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<v Speaker 2>The body's natural painkillers may create feelings of peace and bliss.

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<v Speaker 2>and tunnel like vision, a common feature of near death experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what's going on in the body. That's the how,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the how is this happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>not why it happens. Not like not to take away

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<v Speaker 2>anything spiritually, but there has to be an alley a

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<v Speaker 2>like anybody that's having any kind of spiritual experience. Most

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<v Speaker 2>times you have to be in a different state consciously

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<v Speaker 2>to have any kind of spiritual experience like a whether

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<v Speaker 2>it be an out of body experience or maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>most of the times people don't even know they're really

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<v Speaker 2>in them, you know, we just assume that it's always us.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's different levels to us. There's different stages of

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<v Speaker 2>what you consider you, you know, and we've gone over

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<v Speaker 2>them in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>own mind. Everybody goes through it, and so they have

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<v Speaker 2>the spiritual explanation, it says. Many who have experienced an

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<v Speaker 2>ND interpret as a glimpse into the afterlife or a

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<v Speaker 2>connection to something divine. These interpretations are often shaped by

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<v Speaker 2>in which a person accurately recalls events that they could

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<v Speaker 2>not have physically witnessed, are sometimes cited as evidence for

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<v Speaker 2>consciousness existing outside the body. I don't know what other

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<v Speaker 2>explanation you could have. I mean, they're they're down and

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<v Speaker 2>out for the count. There's there's nothing popping up on

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<v Speaker 2>the monitor, and still somehow they're able to listen in

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<v Speaker 2>on the doctor's conversation. Yeah, that'll keep you up at

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<v Speaker 2>night in a good way. Then there's the life changing

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<v Speaker 2>after effects, of course. I mean, anybody that goes through

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<v Speaker 2>other so otherworldly, of course, it's going to change your

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<v Speaker 2>life every time. And so it says near death experiences

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<v Speaker 2>can have a powerful and lasting impact on a person's

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<v Speaker 2>personality and outlook on life. Reported after effects can include

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<v Speaker 2>a diminished fear of death, which I think is a

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<v Speaker 2>great thing. Shouldn't be worried or fearful about death. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen, regardless whether you fear about it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to happen. There is a level of increased spirituality,

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<v Speaker 2>often accompanied by less interest in materialism.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a heightened sense of purpose and compassion for others.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like a spiritual teacher. There's spiritual teachers all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world of all times have been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>preach this very same thing from the very beginning. But

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<v Speaker 2>we have to die to understand that that that message.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess not everybody. Some people, then there seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be positive changes in attitude and behavior, though some individuals

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<v Speaker 2>may struck with integrating their experience rightfully. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you going to integrate meeting a gray alien

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<v Speaker 2>who told you that you're from planet blee blob? And

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, how are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>integrate that into going to work? And then yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there's there's always a renewed appreciation for life.

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<v Speaker 1>So just want to throw those out there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite fascinating when you really really look into some

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to say, anybody that's ever looked into

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<v Speaker 2>a near death experience, it's not like a oh it

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<v Speaker 2>happened once or twice, or maybe it happens every so often.

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<v Speaker 2>There are hundreds of thousands, if not more, but at

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<v Speaker 2>least documented. There are hundreds of thousands of documented accounts

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<v Speaker 2>of people that are documenting their near death experiences. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, they're not always the same. As a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, most of the time they are far apart

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that you can't put in a box.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's quit, quit dancing around, actually get to the information.

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<v Speaker 2>But look, before we do, I did want to say

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<v Speaker 2>I do offer past life regressions for anybody that is interested.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why I built the show, you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of commemorate Dolores Cannon because of you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>inspired me greatly to really look a lot in this

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<v Speaker 2>general direction. And I went to school for I went

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<v Speaker 2>to her school. I mean it was when was that

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<v Speaker 2>like four or five years ago? I did it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've done I don't know, two three hundred sessions so far,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're always so amazing, just like NDEs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they are so similar it's not even funny. And so

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<v Speaker 2>if you're interested in that, then email us at metamistics

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<v Speaker 2>at yahoo dot com. That link is down the show

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<v Speaker 2>notes below. For anybody that's interested in prices. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to keep it a secret. I have two different

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<v Speaker 2>ways of going about the price. So and I will

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<v Speaker 2>say that I'm cheaper than just about everybody. If I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I've ever found anybody that is cheaper

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<v Speaker 2>than me, unless they're given it to you for free.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's I'm not trying to make a living off

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<v Speaker 2>of it, you know. But it does take a few hours,

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<v Speaker 2>It does take a lot of energy, and it does

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<v Speaker 2>take a lot of attention, does take a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do want to say that, you know it,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to charge something, so but that price is

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<v Speaker 2>not steep at all compared to everybody else. So my

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<v Speaker 2>typical charge is two hundred and fifty dollars per session.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it goes an hour, maybe it goes three hours,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it goes four hours. Maybe it only goes two hours,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's less than an hour. Either way, two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty dollars. Okay, I don't do it by the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I do it by the session, two hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you decide that you want to put it

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<v Speaker 2>up on the podcast for everybody else to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to listen a lot like these fine people over at

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<v Speaker 1>And you want other.

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<v Speaker 2>People to be able to listen to what your experience

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<v Speaker 2>was about your past life regression, I bring it down

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<v Speaker 2>to two hundred dollars, so it's fifty dollars off and

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<v Speaker 2>that way everybody will be able to listen to it

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Now that doesn't mean that I won't. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if if there's something like very personal in there that

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<v Speaker 2>you would like to get cut out, I can absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>cut that out. I can make accommodations, no big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you don't want people knowing about some of

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<v Speaker 2>the more deeply personal stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That you, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, maybe went through or learned about yourself, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>some of the questions that you ask your higher self.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally get that, we can cut that out.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as the past life regression itself, where

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<v Speaker 2>did you go, what did you see, what did you experience,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you learn? All those fun things, all the

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<v Speaker 2>details of it. Yeah, well we'll keep that in there

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<v Speaker 2>if I mean, it's entirely up to you. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I will say.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody it's interested in it, make sure you have headphones

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<v Speaker 2>that have a attached microphone that you can put right

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<v Speaker 2>the old school Apple headphones. The pods, right, the corded ones,

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<v Speaker 2>you have like a set of gamer headphones with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why I say that is is because whenever

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<v Speaker 1>Is gonna get so soft.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be so low.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do it over zoom obviously, so I need

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, just go about that.

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that there's not gonna be anything that's going

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<v Speaker 2>and you want to make sure that you have at

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<v Speaker 1>So these are.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to look at it like that, these questions.

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<v Speaker 2>be coming through you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how, I don't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Know why, but it happens. So yeah, I get at

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<v Speaker 2>least ten questions. I usually say, what are ten questions

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<v Speaker 2>that you would ask God? Something like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what's my purpose in this life? Who am I supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to end up with? What job am I supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you add, whatever, it doesn't even matter. Whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want to ask, there are no limitations to it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>with that being said, let's get over to nd r

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<v Speaker 2>F dot org the Near Death Experience Research Foundation dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the place where tens of thousands, if not

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands of people have documented their near death

434
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<v Speaker 2>experiences and they have a wide variety. Sometimes people have

435
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<v Speaker 2>out of body experiences. Sometimes people have near death experiences.

436
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<v Speaker 2>They talk about different levels of being outside of your body,

437
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<v Speaker 2>whether you died, whether you just had an out of

438
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<v Speaker 2>body maybe it was something something extra. But today we're

439
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<v Speaker 2>going to be going over the exceptional near death experiences.

440
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<v Speaker 2>They have a list of current NDEs, which are people

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<v Speaker 2>that are updating it literally on the daily, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you have your exceptional ones. You know, maybe a few

443
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<v Speaker 2>like mind blowing ones a month. And that's what we're

444
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be talking about today. We're going to I got

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<v Speaker 2>three of them that we're going to mention. So these

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<v Speaker 2>are these three stories, and these aren't just stories. I mean,

447
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<v Speaker 2>these are actual experiences that these people documented. So it's

448
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<v Speaker 2>up to you how you want to interpret it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the best way to approach this is

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<v Speaker 2>with an open mind. Just listen, Just listen to the story,

451
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<v Speaker 2>see what happens. And then once we hear the entire story,

452
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<v Speaker 2>then you figure out I wonder this, I wonder that,

453
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<v Speaker 2>But don't judge until the end. Because we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>things that are being experienced outside of time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very different world.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first NDY either we're going to have or

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<v Speaker 2>the first one that we're going to read here is

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<v Speaker 2>from Luis who had an NDE and it was actually transcribed,

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<v Speaker 2>I think because transcribed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he was.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe talking into a voice memo or a voice recorder

462
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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. Somebody wrote it down. So it

463
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<v Speaker 2>starts like this. I had been dealing with a breathing

464
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<v Speaker 2>problem when I was asleep and would wake up in

465
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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the night gasping for air. It would

466
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<v Speaker 2>it would happen about once a week, and I just

467
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<v Speaker 2>have to sit up quickly and wait for a few seconds,

468
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<v Speaker 2>sometimes longer, until I could breathe normally again. It became

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<v Speaker 2>kind of normal for me. But then one night it

470
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<v Speaker 2>didn't go away. I woke up like before, but this

471
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<v Speaker 2>time I struggled to catch my breath, gasping harder than usual.

472
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<v Speaker 2>My wife was exhausted with her own issues sleeping, so

473
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<v Speaker 2>initially I didn't want to wake her, thinking that it

474
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<v Speaker 2>would eventually improve. But something felt wrong. Panic set in

475
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<v Speaker 2>and when I turned to the left to wake up

476
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<v Speaker 2>my wife. Wake up my wife, I heard a female

477
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<v Speaker 2>voice say relax and let go all as well, And

478
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<v Speaker 2>then I was both looking at my body and still

479
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<v Speaker 2>in it. Though the feeling of panic disappeared. The voice

480
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<v Speaker 2>I heard was calm, gentle. It was a female voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't really describe it because it was unlike anything

482
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<v Speaker 2>I'd ever heard metallic sounding is the only way that

483
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I can say, but it was still feminine. So one

484
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<v Speaker 2>moment I was there struggling to breathe. In the next

485
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 2>I was watching myself. Then I heard the voice again,

486
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<v Speaker 2>the same exact words, relax and let go all as well.

487
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 2>This time I could pinpoint the location of the voice.

488
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<v Speaker 2>It came from the right corner of the room, behind

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<v Speaker 2>the physical me. When I turned my body to look

490
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.960
<v Speaker 2>in that direction, I saw a translucent, bluish, fluorescent, clear

491
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<v Speaker 2>energy being. The energy being was not human shaped and

492
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<v Speaker 2>really hard to describe. As I turned further looking behind me,

493
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<v Speaker 2>I also saw a human shape being of light, and

494
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<v Speaker 2>to the right of that being was a round shaped

495
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<v Speaker 2>light on the wall like a portal.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

497
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<v Speaker 2>But before I could fully process what was happening, I

498
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>was suddenly pulled and went right through the energy being

499
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<v Speaker 2>and was near the other being that was directly behind me,

500
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<v Speaker 2>But now we were both looking down at my body

501
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<v Speaker 2>from what seemed to be ceiling height.

502
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<v Speaker 1>In the corner of the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Strangely, as I looked at myself at my body, I

504
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<v Speaker 2>felt little to no connection to it. I did not

505
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<v Speaker 2>recognize it or understand why I was even observing it.

506
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I only sensed that the body was struggling, gasping for

507
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<v Speaker 2>air with this other being next to me, who I

508
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<v Speaker 2>felt as a friend or someone I can trust. Not

509
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<v Speaker 2>recognizing myself, I asked, what's wrong with it? He replied,

510
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to breathe.

511
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<v Speaker 1>Breathe. What is that? I asked?

512
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<v Speaker 2>He said something like the body needs to breathe in

513
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<v Speaker 2>order to survive. I didn't feel fear or any heightened

514
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<v Speaker 2>sense of emotions, just curious, observing everything calmly with respect

515
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>to the human drama going on. I actually felt a

516
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<v Speaker 2>little bored, not knowing what I was doing there. And

517
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:45.599
<v Speaker 2>then at the moment I was thinking that, the being

518
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<v Speaker 2>asked me, are you ready to go? And I said, yes,

519
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to go, though I didn't know where we

520
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 2>were going or who this being actually was. Before we

521
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<v Speaker 2>left that earth scene in my bedroom, I saw my

522
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.759
<v Speaker 2>body get wrapped in this bluish cocoon like energy light,

523
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 2>the same exact color of that bluish being I first saw.

524
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<v Speaker 2>Then I pulled out of that scene at an incredible speed,

525
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.279
<v Speaker 2>like being vacuumed up. And then suddenly I was standing

526
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<v Speaker 2>on a beach.

527
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<v Speaker 1>This place.

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<v Speaker 2>It was amazing. The waters, the colors, the sand, it

529
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 2>was alive. It was all moving together as if there

530
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>was a breeze blowing onto it. But I didn't feel

531
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<v Speaker 2>any wind.

532
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 1>To me.

533
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.920
<v Speaker 2>It felt like a breeze coming in creating something like music,

534
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 2>and everything was moving to it, synchronized like a symphony.

535
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<v Speaker 2>It was just beautiful. I was looking at the sand

536
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>and I felt like I was part of and one

537
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<v Speaker 2>with the sand. Interestingly, I could see all of the

538
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<v Speaker 2>sand and every grain of the sand individually. Somehow, I

539
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>could even talk to the sand, and the sand was

540
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>also communicating with me. They were asking me to come

541
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.039
<v Speaker 2>touch it and feel it. The same thing happened with

542
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the water. I was connected to it. The water was different,

543
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 2>more substance and solid, and I didn't get wet. That's

544
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the way I would describe it. The water was communicating

545
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:00.759
<v Speaker 2>with me as well, inviting me to come into it,

546
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and so I did, and it felt like it was

547
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>healing me. I felt the love from it again. It

548
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>was just indescribable. There was no sun, but the whole

549
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>place was bright and full of light, blue skies, white clouds.

550
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<v Speaker 2>It felt like heaven. So I turned to the being

551
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<v Speaker 2>who was still with me and asked, is this heaven?

552
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 2>He said, yes, this is part of what humans call heaven.

553
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Then I asked, if this is heaven, where is God?

554
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>And he answered God is everywhere, all the time, and

555
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>in everything. That answer didn't satisfy me. I didn't get it,

556
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:35.279
<v Speaker 2>this idea that God was everything and in everything all

557
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<v Speaker 2>the time. Then this question came out of me, despite

558
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>not feeling connected to my physical life. Whenever I said,

559
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<v Speaker 2>if this is heaven and if God is real, what

560
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<v Speaker 2>religion should I be? He told me you can be

561
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<v Speaker 2>a religious person if you like, but you don't have

562
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<v Speaker 2>to be because religion is of man, not of God.

563
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<v Speaker 2>That made sense. So then I asked, if heaven is

564
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<v Speaker 2>real and God is real, is Jesus real? And instantly

565
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<v Speaker 2>when I asked that, I was gone no longer on

566
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the beach. I was inside a wooden cabin, beautiful wood

567
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>everywhere like maple I'm a woodworker, and I love wood.

568
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<v Speaker 2>So I was admiring this wood that was so full

569
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 2>of light and alive, and I thought to myself, let

570
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<v Speaker 2>me look at this wood. And when I thought that,

571
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.599
<v Speaker 2>I was right there, up close, looking at it, right

572
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>then the wood transformed into a vibrating into vibrating thin

573
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 2>strings of light like glowing spider webs of all types

574
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 2>of amazing colors, running horizontally back and forth, as if

575
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<v Speaker 2>the lumber was alive. I then backed up to where

576
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I was before before I came close, and this time

577
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.599
<v Speaker 2>I saw two humongous angels or whatever you want to

578
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 2>call them. They were massive beings, strong, all dressed in white,

579
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>and you could see their muscles. I'm six three, but

580
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>these guys were intimidating, and I would guess that they

581
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>were at least thirty feet tall. I didn't turn to

582
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>look at them directly, but somehow I could see them.

583
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<v Speaker 2>Then I saw a hand reach into the cabin. It

584
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<v Speaker 2>was as big as the room, and it was also

585
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.480
<v Speaker 2>as big as the entire universe. Again, somehow I knew

586
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>both at once, But I don't know how to explain

587
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>that I could see the beare hand a mail hand

588
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:11.799
<v Speaker 2>up to the wrist, and then the fabric from the

589
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:14.279
<v Speaker 2>wrist to the elbow. The fabric had a band of

590
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.480
<v Speaker 2>gold near the wrist with simple small symbols. The hand

591
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.119
<v Speaker 2>appeared to be normal, moved down onto the floor and

592
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>opened up. When the hand opened, a figure stepped out.

593
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.359
<v Speaker 2>The moment I saw the figure, I just knew exactly

594
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 2>who it was, even though the being was initially walking

595
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 2>towards the wall away from me.

596
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>It was Jesus.

597
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Don't ask me how I knew this being was Jesus.

598
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I knew, because I really didn't

599
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:43.039
<v Speaker 2>know anything about him or anything really specific about that religion,

600
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.200
<v Speaker 2>coming from a communist country where we couldn't discuss it.

601
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 2>But I just knew it was him, and there was

602
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>no doubt in my mind. As Jesus stepped out of

603
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.799
<v Speaker 2>the open hand, he took a couple of steps forward

604
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>away from me, towards the wall and turned right back,

605
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>turned right to walk towards the doorframe and open but

606
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>no door. There was a white pedestal right in front

607
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:07.240
<v Speaker 2>of me in the doorway with a humongous, thick white

608
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 2>book on it, maybe three feet wide. Everything was white,

609
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 2>and there was this old style feather quill pen on

610
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the pedestal on the right side of the book. Jesus

611
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.240
<v Speaker 2>picked up the quill pen with his right hand and

612
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:23.039
<v Speaker 2>began writing in the book. I was just watching, thinking

613
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.720
<v Speaker 2>in disbelief that this is Jesus right in front of me.

614
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.599
<v Speaker 2>He kept writing, and at some point I figured he's

615
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.039
<v Speaker 2>writing all of the bad stuff I've done, and he's

616
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>about to send me to hell because I used to

617
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>talk a lot of crap about Jesus. I was an

618
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.680
<v Speaker 2>atheist and didn't pay any attention to religion. But then

619
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<v Speaker 2>as soon as I thought what is he writing? I

620
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>was there right on top of the book. He was writing,

621
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<v Speaker 2>but I couldn't see any words that he was writing.

622
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Everything was white, so it was as he was writing

623
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<v Speaker 2>with white ink, and I just couldn't see what was

624
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<v Speaker 2>being written. Then I was back again where I was

625
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:59.319
<v Speaker 2>standing before. And this went on for what seemed like forever.

626
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<v Speaker 2>Each time I kept thinking that these bad things were

627
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 2>going to happen to me, he would pause, smile or chuckle.

628
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself, why is he laughing? Am I

629
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 2>in that much trouble? At this point he communicated to

630
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<v Speaker 2>me that he could hear my thoughts. We were actually

631
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<v Speaker 2>communicating directly thought to thought. Now, as I think back,

632
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.840
<v Speaker 2>it humors me too, But these concerns were what I

633
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 2>was actually thinking there as it was happening. He eventually

634
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:28.760
<v Speaker 2>stopped writing back and backed away. He turned to face

635
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.280
<v Speaker 2>me and took a few steps towards me, stopping maybe

636
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>six feet away. He looked at me, and I get

637
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.719
<v Speaker 2>emotional when I remember this part, because he said, in quotes,

638
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I heard you asking for me, So here I am.

639
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>I've always been here with you, and you have always

640
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 2>been here with me, he said, we have always been

641
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:48.440
<v Speaker 2>here for you. He raised his hand and guided me

642
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.119
<v Speaker 2>to the corner of this room. Suddenly a very long

643
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.519
<v Speaker 2>table appeared, and I was on one end of it,

644
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>with Jesus on the other side of the table. At

645
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.119
<v Speaker 2>the other end of the table. There were three other

646
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 2>beings on one side, one on Jesus's side of the table,

647
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 2>and two on my side of the table. Again at

648
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.639
<v Speaker 2>the end of my side on the table. The one

649
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 2>on the end of Jesus's side was a very tall,

650
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.559
<v Speaker 2>hooded being dressed in all white. He had one of

651
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.199
<v Speaker 2>those hoods that was tall and pointy, with the point

652
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>extending upwards. Though I couldn't see this tall being's face,

653
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I could tell that he had a long beard and

654
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 2>a book. In front of him. On the end of

655
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>my side of the table, there were two beings. The

656
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 2>one furthest from me, had the same hood and a

657
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>face that was blurred so I couldn't make out his

658
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:35.039
<v Speaker 2>face at all. To his left a third being who

659
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 2>was completely different, like a figure from ancient Greece or Rome.

660
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>He wore a short white shirt like Tunic and had

661
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.159
<v Speaker 2>a bowl cut hairstyle with white hair and a perfect

662
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.440
<v Speaker 2>circular bald spot. All three had their own books, but

663
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>this last one stood up holding his book and walked

664
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>towards me. As he got closer, I suddenly remembered that

665
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I knew him. These are my friends. I knew all

666
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 2>of them forever, even though I've never seen them before.

667
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.840
<v Speaker 2>But I understand now how unbelievable that may sound. As

668
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 2>the Greek looking man or friend approached, I felt like

669
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I was going to hug him, but he stopped a

670
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 2>few feet away from me and turned to face Jesus

671
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and was instantly in front of Jesus. The table at

672
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 2>this point was not really there, or my focus was

673
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 2>on this new scene, he showed Jesus his book and

674
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 2>they started talking. They looked at the book together, and

675
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I became anxious all over again and wanted to see

676
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>what they were looking at as before. As soon as

677
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I thought that, I was instantly there beside them, but

678
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 2>couldn't hear what they were saying or see anything in

679
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.599
<v Speaker 2>the open book, my position returned to where I had

680
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>been before. Being near them, I was really nervous again,

681
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:37.920
<v Speaker 2>thinking I don't know what's going on here, and I'm

682
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.159
<v Speaker 2>probably about to get it.

683
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:40.599
<v Speaker 1>At some point.

684
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>When they were finished the being walked away and Jesus

685
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 2>turned to me and opened his arms. When he did that, wow,

686
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 2>a brilliant, blinding light poured out of him, pure love,

687
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:51.719
<v Speaker 2>and it just hit me in the chest like a

688
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:55.400
<v Speaker 2>freight train. It was pure love. Again, this is emotional

689
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:58.840
<v Speaker 2>for me. It was overwhelming when he did that, no judgment,

690
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 2>just compassion. I felt like a little baby being held.

691
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I was doing, maybe kneeling or whatever,

692
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 2>but he reached down and pulled me right up and

693
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.719
<v Speaker 2>out and out of where I was at that point,

694
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.519
<v Speaker 2>and we just merged into each other. At that moment,

695
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I saw every detail of his face every strand of

696
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 2>his hair. We became one. There are no words to

697
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 2>the amount of love, peace, and joy that he showed me.

698
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.760
<v Speaker 2>It felt like he was hugging a little infant. That's

699
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 2>what it felt like. At that point, I felt I

700
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.000
<v Speaker 2>knew him forever. There were no questions to ask, nothing

701
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 2>to talk about, like I just knew him and.

702
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:34.159
<v Speaker 1>He knew me completely.

703
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Now, when the light hit me, a lot of things

704
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>were removed from me, mostly the fear. The fear was

705
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 2>all gone, erased, my past, my guilt, my bad habits

706
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 2>were gone too, as if they never existed. For example,

707
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I used to drink a lot. For many years after

708
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 2>that moment, I never drank again. It's not like I

709
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 2>wanted to quit or didn't want to drink. It was

710
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>more as if that part of me never existed, like

711
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.639
<v Speaker 2>I never drank before. It was strange because I knew

712
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I used to drink a lot, but it was as

713
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 2>if I never drank, didn't know what it tasted like

714
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>In things like this. Now, I don't have a problem

715
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>with people drinking around me, and I know it's hard.

716
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 2>I know how hard it is for people to stop drinking.

717
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 2>But for me, that all got completely erased, But the

718
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 2>most important thing that was taken away was the fear.

719
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.239
<v Speaker 2>When I think about it, everything negative is rooted in fear,

720
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and when the fear was gone, everything else disappears to me.

721
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Anything that is controlled by God is peace, joy and love,

722
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:35.119
<v Speaker 2>but anything controlled by fear is negative, like hatred, etc.

723
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I would say this loss of fear.

724
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Is related to my understanding that I am not my

725
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 2>body and that reality outside of this physical world. I

726
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 2>realize that we are not our physical selves. Our spirit

727
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.360
<v Speaker 2>is having a human experience, but we are not this

728
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:53.400
<v Speaker 2>body or our thoughts or our experiences. You can say

729
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.760
<v Speaker 2>that we are spirits created in the image of our creator.

730
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>After this experience, in realizing all this, it's as if

731
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm a new person, like i'd been reset. Fear, anger, judgment,

732
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 2>none of it lived in me anymore. It doesn't control

733
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.599
<v Speaker 2>me like it used to. I now enjoy life more

734
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:10.280
<v Speaker 2>and return to more of who I was meant to

735
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.599
<v Speaker 2>be and who I used to be in life. I

736
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>became more loving, innocent, and childlike. After that, something happened,

737
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>and I know Jesus and I had a conversation, but

738
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember it, and I don't think I was

739
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 2>allowed to remember that. Next thing I do remember was

740
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.239
<v Speaker 2>walking out of the cabin with Jesus through the doorframe.

741
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>We turned to the.

742
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Left and stepped onto a stone pathway made of what

743
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.800
<v Speaker 2>looked like golden glass. It was alive with this light

744
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 2>shining out. But it's so difficult to explain. Imagine a

745
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 2>stone made of glass or crystal and this light inside

746
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.559
<v Speaker 2>of it just shining outward and hitting everything.

747
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 1>The funny thing.

748
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Is is that it was all white, brilliant white, and

749
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 2>still Jesus was brighter than anything else. I mean, I

750
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know how many shades of white there can possibly be,

751
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>but he was the brightest of the brightest white there was.

752
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 2>As we walked, I looked to the right side and

753
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 2>saw a cabin and this person came out with a

754
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:05.119
<v Speaker 2>bucket of water to empty it, like they were just

755
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:06.039
<v Speaker 2>cleaning the house.

756
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>As soon as I.

757
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Saw that, I remembered my wife, who was always cleaning,

758
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 2>and the moment I thought of her, I was gone

759
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 2>and instantly out of that place. And I was in

760
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 2>my room looking at myself, but not from the ceiling,

761
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 2>but as if I was on the wall, looking directly

762
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:24.559
<v Speaker 2>at my body that was still sitting one second, I

763
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:26.320
<v Speaker 2>was looking at it from the outside, and the next

764
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 2>second I was in my body looking out at the

765
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.440
<v Speaker 2>wall where I just was. On that wall, I see

766
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 2>this huge opening, a portal or tunnel going right through

767
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.719
<v Speaker 2>the wall. Unlike the one I described earlier, which was blurry,

768
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I could see this one clearly and could look right

769
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:43.679
<v Speaker 2>through it. I saw the blue sky and the clouds,

770
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.199
<v Speaker 2>and Jesus was standing outside of that space in the

771
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.800
<v Speaker 2>physical room with me. But there were also two other

772
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:53.440
<v Speaker 2>beings still in the portal or tunnel, one on the

773
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>left and another one on the right further back into

774
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 2>the tunnel. Jesus was standing there right in front of me,

775
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 2>and he said this, Remember, all that truly matters is love.

776
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Love is the only thing that's real. And these were

777
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:11.280
<v Speaker 2>his last words to me. And then the portal slowly

778
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.320
<v Speaker 2>got smaller and smaller until it closed up. The portal

779
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.719
<v Speaker 2>and Jesus were gone, And here I was just sitting

780
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:18.960
<v Speaker 2>on my bed, feeling kind of silly now because I

781
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.639
<v Speaker 2>was just staring at this plain wall, scanning it, waiting

782
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 2>for it to open again so I can get out

783
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 2>of there. I still had no idea of who I

784
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 2>really was or why I was there, and it took

785
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:31.039
<v Speaker 2>months to adjust to this, to adjust to this world

786
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>again and who I was as Luis. For some time,

787
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I would just break down weeping, especially when I thought

788
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 2>of Jesus. Sometimes I would just pull over my car

789
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 2>until I could get it together. This physical world just

790
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:48.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't feel real anymore, not like that one. Now, several

791
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>years later, the biggest thing for me is that I

792
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 2>see beauty of creation, the divine in everything. Wow, that

793
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.480
<v Speaker 2>was some serious goosebump action right there at the end

794
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:05.599
<v Speaker 2>story meeting Jesus literally dissolving into him and becoming one thing.

795
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.800
<v Speaker 2>And then what they said earlier about like, you know,

796
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 2>he was looking for God and they're like God's everything,

797
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:16.199
<v Speaker 2>God's everywhere, Like just there isn't a place that isn't God.

798
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:19.519
<v Speaker 2>It's funny how he just didn't want to accept that,

799
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, because we all have this image of what

800
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.440
<v Speaker 2>God is or who God is, or what God should

801
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 2>look like or whatever, right because we're made in His image,

802
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:31.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, so the Bible says. But whenever you find

803
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:35.079
<v Speaker 2>out that literally there isn't a thing that isn't God,

804
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.880
<v Speaker 2>that's what those beings were telling him. They were like,

805
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 2>look around, dude, there he is there, he is there,

806
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:44.719
<v Speaker 2>he is there, he is he's over there, he's back there,

807
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:50.159
<v Speaker 2>over there, so wild and so it says that a

808
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>little background information. Obviously, this is a male's name is Louise.

809
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 2>It occurred in late twenty nineteen, so not that long ago.

810
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>A lot of these are like twenty thirty forty years back.

811
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:04.519
<v Speaker 2>So it's awesome to get like a new one that

812
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 2>happened a little bit more recently. And a lot of

813
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>times people they need time to sit with this information.

814
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.039
<v Speaker 2>They're not just gonna have an NDE and then the

815
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.199
<v Speaker 2>next day go to NDERF dot org and document it.

816
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes people hold on to these stories because they

817
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know what.

818
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 1>To do with the information, you know.

819
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 2>They they don't want to tell anybody because those people

820
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.280
<v Speaker 2>are gonna think that they're crazy, you know. They they

821
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:27.920
<v Speaker 2>think that even whenever they think about it, that they're crazy,

822
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:32.679
<v Speaker 2>and that's not fair, you know. So, yeah, it's a

823
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 2>that's Louise man. What a story. Wow, we have another

824
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.280
<v Speaker 2>one here. This is from Bristol. So somebody named Bristol

825
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 2>who had a near death experience. So I was thrust

826
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.079
<v Speaker 2>suddenly into the darkness of space. I could distantly perceive

827
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 2>nebula and other cosmic structures. I could not remember where

828
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:55.679
<v Speaker 2>I had come from, who I had been, or what

829
00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:00.079
<v Speaker 2>my earthly identity was. It I felt immense relief, bordering

830
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>on sense of luxury. I cannot exaggerate the bliss I

831
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 2>felt in this place. See, sometimes you'll get you'll get

832
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:11.079
<v Speaker 2>stories that start right into the nd Sometimes you get like,

833
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:15.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, what what transpired that that caused the NDE,

834
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 2>And so maybe we'll find out a little bit, you know,

835
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:20.880
<v Speaker 2>reading on about exactly what caused the NDE. But I

836
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 2>like the ones that get.

837
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Ready to it. It's like super action packed in that way.

838
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>So goes.

839
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:32.039
<v Speaker 2>I was approached by an incorporeal being who communicated with

840
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 2>me about my situation. This being had no form. I

841
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.679
<v Speaker 2>could recognize my ability to perceive. It was emotional rather

842
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:43.079
<v Speaker 2>than visual. I it occupied the entire expanse of reality.

843
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 2>I got the sense that it was an amalgamation of everything.

844
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 2>It gave me a gentle ultimatum. I was on the

845
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:51.559
<v Speaker 2>threshold of life and I had to decide if I

846
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.119
<v Speaker 2>was ready to be done. They explained how rare it

847
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 2>was for me to have this choice. Most people are

848
00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 2>thrust into this space so forcefully that they do not

849
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.159
<v Speaker 2>get the option to remain living. They asked me to

850
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 2>consider carefully, so I inquired about my options. They revealed

851
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.880
<v Speaker 2>the system of incarnation of the incarnation cycle. We remain

852
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 2>in stasis as immortal incorporeal beings outside of animation when

853
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.679
<v Speaker 2>we are not living. Although we are distinguishable as spirits,

854
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:22.519
<v Speaker 2>the overwhelming feeling was of continuity between us. We are

855
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:27.480
<v Speaker 2>all energetically intertwined into essentially a big us. The entity

856
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 2>communicating with me described how we are given a turn

857
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.800
<v Speaker 2>at animation. Each of us is placed in waiting for

858
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.119
<v Speaker 2>animation depending on our length of stasis and the qualities

859
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.320
<v Speaker 2>of time that were spent in previous animations. If we

860
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 2>had been in stasis for a while and had endeavored

861
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 2>to make our previous lives significant, we would be more

862
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:50.679
<v Speaker 2>worthy of reanimation. The Greater Power indicated that spirits whose

863
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 2>actions in their previous lives were so heinous, so filled

864
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:57.840
<v Speaker 2>with evil and destruction, were placed very far away. Effectively,

865
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.920
<v Speaker 2>they were suspended from reincarnation for a very long time

866
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:07.320
<v Speaker 2>to ponder their involvement in the cycle. Wow interesting, I inquired,

867
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.119
<v Speaker 2>what would happen if I chose to remain in this

868
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 2>place and not to return to my body. I still

869
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:14.239
<v Speaker 2>couldn't remember who I'd been on earth. The Being told

870
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 2>me I was welcome to do that, but I would

871
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:18.519
<v Speaker 2>be I would be placed in the back of the line,

872
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.400
<v Speaker 2>so to speak. I would not get another chance at life.

873
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.719
<v Speaker 2>For a long time, I wondered if I if I

874
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.239
<v Speaker 2>had to return as the person I had been, or

875
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 2>if I could return as someone else. The Being and

876
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>for me that we are not given a choice regarding

877
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:36.159
<v Speaker 2>the material identity we inhabit. When new consciousness begins in

878
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a new person, a spirit is wedded to that body.

879
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 2>As spirits, we only have the choice to be wedded,

880
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 2>not to whom we are wedded. Those who forego this

881
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 2>decision returned to the back of the line any or

882
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 2>as such, My person was not yet dead, and I

883
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.360
<v Speaker 2>still had the chance to be returned and wedded to

884
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 2>her body again. What an interesting way of putting it,

885
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.840
<v Speaker 2>wedded to the the two and one, the spirit and

886
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.039
<v Speaker 2>the flesh. I love that it's written like that.

887
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 1>It's so cool.

888
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I inquired about this system. I asked many questions, such as,

889
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:13.840
<v Speaker 2>why was animation so important? What was going on here?

890
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Why didn't we all just remain in this calm, blissful

891
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 2>space all the time. What was the point of violence

892
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 2>in life? The Being showed me that life was important

893
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 2>because it is how stories take place. They demonstrated points

894
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:29.199
<v Speaker 2>in the universe of intense warmth. I realized they were

895
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 2>indicating planets that radiated intense heat in a way that

896
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I cannot entirely describe. It was magnetic, filled with music

897
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and voices, and felt warm to the core. I saw

898
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.360
<v Speaker 2>many planets, very distant from each other, and each with

899
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.760
<v Speaker 2>distinct forms of being. I immediately understood that there were

900
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 2>definitely aliens occurring throughout the universe. I also recognized many

901
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 2>other spirits drifting around these planets and rapt attention of

902
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 2>the beings and their activities. The space time divided between

903
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 2>us ensured that they could not perceive us, and we

904
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>could not interfere with them. We could only respond to

905
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>intense emotion with our own wow. We were not allowed

906
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:11.320
<v Speaker 2>to speak directly to the beings. Currently living music was

907
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:17.159
<v Speaker 2>the language by which we communicated, My God, this is awesome. Uh.

908
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.280
<v Speaker 2>The Being told me that that these plays, these were

909
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:24.559
<v Speaker 2>the places that sustained us throughout the entire universe. We

910
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>as spirits. As spirits warmed ourselves at these quote unquote fires.

911
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.159
<v Speaker 2>Without them, we would slumber too long and never strive

912
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:35.639
<v Speaker 2>or struggle to achieve anything more. Living was about interacting

913
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:39.320
<v Speaker 2>with each other and discovering indelible truths about ourselves. We

914
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.400
<v Speaker 2>each get a turn to struggle and strive, nourishing one

915
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.400
<v Speaker 2>another and in doing so, growing the cosmos. Part of

916
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.719
<v Speaker 2>the responsibility of living was to live in a way

917
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 2>that enticed the slumbering spirits to want to struggle. This

918
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Speaker 2>was one justification, justification for uh for why people who

919
00:48:55.039 --> 00:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>purposely hurt and destroyed were relegated to extended stasis. It

920
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a punishment. It was a way to give rest

921
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.519
<v Speaker 2>to a spirit that clearly did not like life and

922
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 2>needed more time to see for itself why the struggle

923
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:12.840
<v Speaker 2>was worthwhile. My God, looking at it that way is

924
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:16.840
<v Speaker 2>so interesting. So the being concluded, I had a choice

925
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 2>to make. Would I choose to return to my body

926
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 2>and struggle for the remaining decades of her life, or

927
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 2>would I leave early and enjoy the bliss here again.

928
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't remember who she had been, but I could

929
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.480
<v Speaker 2>recall that her life had been filled with this intense pain.

930
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:34.880
<v Speaker 2>At that point, I felt an intense surge of empathy

931
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:38.079
<v Speaker 2>for whoever I had been. I realized the distinction between

932
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:41.400
<v Speaker 2>ourselves and the way I, as her spirit, had done

933
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:46.760
<v Speaker 2>her injustice. I could feel how curmudgeonly, judgmental, and rigid

934
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I had been, and how much I tried to force

935
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.079
<v Speaker 2>her and everyone around her to be the way I wanted.

936
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:54.599
<v Speaker 2>I was overtaken by the sense that I was meant

937
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 2>to inhabit her in a way that helped her connect

938
00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 2>to others rather than push them away. I felt deep

939
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:03.320
<v Speaker 2>about leaving her with so little to show for her

940
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 2>time alive. I decided I wanted to go back. Immediately,

941
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.840
<v Speaker 2>the being in my spirit sprang into action to find

942
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:13.519
<v Speaker 2>my body. We had to move through many spaces to

943
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.599
<v Speaker 2>locate Earth. I first recognized the Milky Way, then the

944
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.760
<v Speaker 2>edge of one of its arms, and finally the Solar System.

945
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:23.639
<v Speaker 2>We found Earth. The being could manipulate material. Although we

946
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:26.639
<v Speaker 2>had found Earth, it was not Earth as it is now.

947
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:29.400
<v Speaker 2>The being had to manipulate the rotation and placement of

948
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:33.079
<v Speaker 2>the planet to arrive at the correct time period. Well,

949
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:39.159
<v Speaker 2>this is a really awesome one. It had me watch

950
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.239
<v Speaker 2>as it revolved Earth, and I was supposed to indicate

951
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.960
<v Speaker 2>when to stop. I watched the surface of the planet

952
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 2>as if it were the size of a basketball. The

953
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 2>landscape went through many permutations. I saw many continental configurations,

954
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:59.719
<v Speaker 2>from Colombia to Rodinia, to Pangaea, to gon Gondwana to Amsia,

955
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:03.639
<v Speaker 2>and and I watched as mountains formed and crumbled, and

956
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.480
<v Speaker 2>oceans grew and faded. Eventually, the creatures on land began

957
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:12.599
<v Speaker 2>to appear familiar, strange geometric structure. Structures began to form

958
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.480
<v Speaker 2>on the surface, growing upward before collapsing. I realized I

959
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:19.159
<v Speaker 2>was seeing towns and cities being built. I saw great

960
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 2>temples rise, and I saw ships on the water. Oddly,

961
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I could not recognize the place from the arrangement of

962
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:28.480
<v Speaker 2>the land as I do now. It felt like I

963
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:32.360
<v Speaker 2>had a phasia. I could only orient myself by the

964
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 2>shapes of the bodies of water. When the Pacific Ocean

965
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.639
<v Speaker 2>emerged in its current form, I felt a pang of

966
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:41.280
<v Speaker 2>homesickness and realized that it was the time of my life.

967
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:43.599
<v Speaker 2>The being stopped moving the earth, and I was allowed

968
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.719
<v Speaker 2>to begin my journey back. I first quote unquote landed

969
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:49.079
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the ocean and proceeded east until

970
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I encountered the West Coast. I followed the coast starting

971
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.920
<v Speaker 2>around Mexico until I arrived at the Columbia River. I

972
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:58.639
<v Speaker 2>felt an intense squishing with each distinction, and the focus

973
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.360
<v Speaker 2>of space time began to lapse around me, causing me

974
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:05.280
<v Speaker 2>to lose the sense of gigantism associated with being a spirit.

975
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I crawled and swam up to the Columbia River until

976
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I reached the Williamette River. I knew I was very close.

977
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I followed the Williamette River until it crossed the path

978
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:19.639
<v Speaker 2>of the Fremont Bridge and I eighty four. I knew

979
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:21.320
<v Speaker 2>that if I could follow this, I would find the

980
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:23.440
<v Speaker 2>hospital where I was. I had to cling to the

981
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 2>ground to keep from flying away because the planet was

982
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:29.360
<v Speaker 2>moving so swiftly. Everything was silent and still. Although I

983
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:32.280
<v Speaker 2>could see much activity, I was not yet living, so

984
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:35.280
<v Speaker 2>my perception was filled with the sense of rest and stasis.

985
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I found her body as she was being laid on

986
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 2>a gurney. I ran to her and jumped in. Just

987
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:44.119
<v Speaker 2>as her head touched the bed, my consciousness returned. I

988
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 2>was extremely hot and sweaty. The world was filled with intensity.

989
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 2>I could feel a trillion fires in my body, contrasted

990
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.199
<v Speaker 2>by the freezing cold of the rest of the room.

991
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:56.639
<v Speaker 2>I could feel cells burning to fuel my existence. The

992
00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:59.960
<v Speaker 2>entire atmosphere was pressing upon me and into my lungs,

993
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the pressure of gravity pulling me down in nerves, electrically

994
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:08.360
<v Speaker 2>stinging my brain. I had forgotten how violent and animation was.

995
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I recalled the union at our first berth, and I

996
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:13.119
<v Speaker 2>remembered how violent life felt.

997
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Then.

998
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.679
<v Speaker 2>This felt like another birth, but this time I knew

999
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:19.079
<v Speaker 2>my person and I was elated to be back with her.

1000
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.079
<v Speaker 2>I could distinctly feel the difference between my Earth person

1001
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.199
<v Speaker 2>and me as a spirit. My Earth person was a

1002
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:28.000
<v Speaker 2>fully formed woman with an identity separate from my own.

1003
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I could feel where I ended and she began. She

1004
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:34.320
<v Speaker 2>was wildly alarmed, but her brain was cool and tingly

1005
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.119
<v Speaker 2>from the sensation. It felt like the best sleep of

1006
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 2>our lives. The distinguishment is crazy, right like it goes

1007
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:46.719
<v Speaker 2>from me as the spirit to my Earth person.

1008
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Now it's our lives. I love it.

1009
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Many things began happening. We were taken to the back

1010
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and hooked up to machines. Eventually, our reality began to

1011
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:58.599
<v Speaker 2>collapse back together into the way it had been making

1012
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 2>it hard to distinguish once from the other. A doctor

1013
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:04.960
<v Speaker 2>came in to ask if we could use the restroom.

1014
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:08.679
<v Speaker 2>She we felt that we were still capable of doing

1015
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:12.079
<v Speaker 2>everything we normally could. We acknowledged and tried to stand

1016
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>once more, still getting used to the we thing as

1017
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.719
<v Speaker 2>like my spirit and my body.

1018
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 1>That's fun.

1019
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Immediately I was thrust back into the darkness of space.

1020
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.519
<v Speaker 2>The being was there to meet me. Many things began happening.

1021
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:27.800
<v Speaker 2>We were taken to the back and hooked up to

1022
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the machines. Eventually, our reality began to collapse back together

1023
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:33.639
<v Speaker 2>into the way it had been, making it hard to

1024
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:36.400
<v Speaker 2>distinguish one state from the other. A doctor came in

1025
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to ask if we could use the restroom. She we

1026
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:43.000
<v Speaker 2>felt that we were still capable of doing everything we

1027
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 2>normally could. We acknowledged and tried to stand once more.

1028
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Immediately I was thrust back into the darkness of space.

1029
00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:51.000
<v Speaker 2>The being was there to meet me.

1030
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:51.800
<v Speaker 1>This time.

1031
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 2>The tone of the interaction was more grave and intense.

1032
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.119
<v Speaker 2>They told me I was not supposed to be back.

1033
00:54:57.320 --> 00:54:59.519
<v Speaker 2>They said, I was very close to losing my chance.

1034
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:01.920
<v Speaker 2>This it's meant and my Earth person was very close

1035
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:03.880
<v Speaker 2>to death, and I needed to decide if I was

1036
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:06.559
<v Speaker 2>going to fight for her or not. I assured the

1037
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:10.000
<v Speaker 2>being that I was more than committed. We found earth again,

1038
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:12.480
<v Speaker 2>and I went through the entire journey to locate my

1039
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:14.880
<v Speaker 2>body from the ocean to the gurney, but this time

1040
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 2>with haste, worry, and with the efficiency of having done

1041
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.039
<v Speaker 2>it before. When I found my body, she was being

1042
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.880
<v Speaker 2>held by two men who were shouting. She was limp,

1043
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:27.039
<v Speaker 2>and my heart broke for her as I saw her

1044
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.679
<v Speaker 2>head dangling lifelessly backwards. I dove back into her body,

1045
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and animation once again thrust upon me. As I felt

1046
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:36.719
<v Speaker 2>the searing coldness of life, I was covered in sweat

1047
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.159
<v Speaker 2>and my heart raised in a way that truly scared me.

1048
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:41.199
<v Speaker 2>I was put back on the gurney by a team

1049
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:44.280
<v Speaker 2>of people quickly attending to my situation. I was given

1050
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 2>a catheter and experienced the odd sensation of organic tubes

1051
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.880
<v Speaker 2>connecting with inorganic ones. I was rushed to a full

1052
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:54.280
<v Speaker 2>body machine for scanning, then hurried through hallways to an

1053
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:57.599
<v Speaker 2>operating room. I remember seeing the operating surgeon and was

1054
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 2>relieved to discover that it was a woman, and anesthetic

1055
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:04.039
<v Speaker 2>was administered and I was asked to count down. At

1056
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the number seven, I stopped and asked her if she

1057
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the surgeon, had any daughters. She said yes, and relieved,

1058
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I saw black. When I woke the next day, I

1059
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:16.599
<v Speaker 2>had retained all of my memories, along with the exquisite

1060
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:20.960
<v Speaker 2>feelings of eternal slumber and the unmistakable sense of distinction,

1061
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.679
<v Speaker 2>of distinction between my spirit self and my material self.

1062
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I tried to contact the being and the big Us

1063
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:29.920
<v Speaker 2>that I knew was out there watching, but I could

1064
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.800
<v Speaker 2>not get a clear response. I knew there was a barrier.

1065
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I gave thanks to it and to us, and made

1066
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:38.840
<v Speaker 2>a mental effort to send love to those watching. Thank you,

1067
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:42.559
<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you, my ravaged, yellow weak body said,

1068
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:46.280
<v Speaker 2>And so began my new life with my material person.

1069
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 2>I have never regretted returning, and I have never since

1070
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 2>idealized leaving this waking world.

1071
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I am so thrilled to be here. Wow.

1072
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think that there could be another story that

1073
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.079
<v Speaker 2>could top the first one that we read. But they

1074
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.519
<v Speaker 2>just keep on geting better, right, And I don't even

1075
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't even think that's the right way of even

1076
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:04.920
<v Speaker 2>saying it. None of these are better than any of

1077
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:08.079
<v Speaker 2>the other ones. But just man some of the realizations,

1078
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:11.159
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I mean you feel like you're listening

1079
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and like watching a movie. Like if you're somebody that

1080
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:14.719
<v Speaker 2>can picture all of this.

1081
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Going on in your mind.

1082
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:19.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, whenever you're reading, reading a story or reading

1083
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:21.159
<v Speaker 2>a book or something, and you can picture it in

1084
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 2>your mind right, like, man, you can really get the

1085
00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:28.840
<v Speaker 2>idea of what is going on as it's transpiring and everything.

1086
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:33.480
<v Speaker 1>So cool. But this person was a female.

1087
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Her name was Bristol, and this NDE actually happened in

1088
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:42.280
<v Speaker 2>June of twenty twenty four, very recent, and it talks

1089
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:44.719
<v Speaker 2>about all the different elements and she said, yes, it

1090
00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:48.719
<v Speaker 2>was very entirely present. Her thoughts were not sped up.

1091
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:51.119
<v Speaker 2>And they asked.

1092
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Her, were your senses more vivid than usual?

1093
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 2>And she said yes, more vivid than usual, and plenty

1094
00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:58.119
<v Speaker 2>of other questions that they asked her and everything.

1095
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:02.519
<v Speaker 1>But wow, what a story. See you can make them

1096
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 1>like movies.

1097
00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:07.320
<v Speaker 2>From all of these, I feel like just so so awesome.

1098
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:09.480
<v Speaker 2>This last one that we're going to read for the

1099
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 2>night is from Johnny who had a near death experience.

1100
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:17.320
<v Speaker 2>This is another exceptional one that they label as exceptional,

1101
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:20.559
<v Speaker 2>And this is an interesting one because he writes down

1102
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:23.400
<v Speaker 2>his entire experience, and then I guess he comes back

1103
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:25.960
<v Speaker 2>days or weeks or months later and then.

1104
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Updates it a little bit.

1105
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:31.480
<v Speaker 2>And so the the people that run the site, I

1106
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.679
<v Speaker 2>guess they decided to include the emails with his updates

1107
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:38.320
<v Speaker 2>that we're going to get to in different realizations, because

1108
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, whenever you write something down, or you type something,

1109
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:44.760
<v Speaker 2>or you talk about it, the story becomes a little

1110
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 2>bit more crystallized in your mind and it's not so

1111
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:50.920
<v Speaker 2>fleeting anymore, like if you ever. That's why they say,

1112
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:56.000
<v Speaker 2>like documenting your dreams really helps because whenever you document it,

1113
00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:59.199
<v Speaker 2>you're more likely to remember it. Otherwise it's just going

1114
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:01.079
<v Speaker 2>to be fleeting in your not really gonna know what

1115
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:03.199
<v Speaker 2>to do with the information, so then it just passes.

1116
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:08.159
<v Speaker 2>But these people, you know, they're able to remember more

1117
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:09.599
<v Speaker 2>details the more they document it.

1118
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:10.400
<v Speaker 1>And that's what he did.

1119
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.400
<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna get to those letters or those emails

1120
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:14.840
<v Speaker 2>that he wrote back after the fact.

1121
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 1>But this is his story, he.

1122
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Goes, I had been very ill with TWAR, a bacterial

1123
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:23.119
<v Speaker 2>lung disease, for about a year. When this happened, I

1124
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:25.840
<v Speaker 2>could walk or be active for only about ten minutes.

1125
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:29.199
<v Speaker 2>I had a fever for three weeks. I was always

1126
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:31.119
<v Speaker 2>exhausted and it was difficult to breathe.

1127
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I had to.

1128
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:35.079
<v Speaker 2>I had the constant feeling of suffocation. It scared my

1129
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:37.440
<v Speaker 2>wife how I sounded when I was sitting and sleeping.

1130
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:39.960
<v Speaker 2>It became less stressful to sleep sitting up in my

1131
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>own room. My professional life up until then had been

1132
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:48.599
<v Speaker 2>working with psychotherapy, crisis is supervisors, among other things, in hospice, healthcare,

1133
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:51.719
<v Speaker 2>social services, and other things. Coming from an upbringing where

1134
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:53.760
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of death around me, this experience

1135
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:56.800
<v Speaker 2>laid the foundation for a lifelong interest in the research

1136
00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:59.599
<v Speaker 2>of NDEs. I read a lot on the subject. I

1137
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:02.719
<v Speaker 2>had been lectures and etc. I wondered what it's like

1138
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 2>to die and what happens next. After research, it may

1139
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:09.480
<v Speaker 2>feel like I knew a little how it would turn out.

1140
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:13.119
<v Speaker 2>One October evening, about ten years ago, despite medication, I

1141
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.760
<v Speaker 2>couldn't breathe. In the panic that followed, I took the

1142
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:18.679
<v Speaker 2>wrong medicine and my breathing stopped. I panicked because I

1143
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 2>couldn't call for help. It was the scariest moment of

1144
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:24.480
<v Speaker 2>my life. Then I felt my heart stop beating. There

1145
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:27.079
<v Speaker 2>was complete silence in my chest. And I gave up.

1146
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Everything became still. I was completely mesmerized by a giant

1147
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:34.000
<v Speaker 2>face starting to appear on the ceiling. It smiled lovingly

1148
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.360
<v Speaker 2>and warming at me, warmly at me. It sank towards me,

1149
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.480
<v Speaker 2>or I floated up towards it. I don't know which

1150
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:43.320
<v Speaker 2>it was. Suddenly I was in a vibrating, vivid, incredibly

1151
01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:46.760
<v Speaker 2>bright landscape. It was brighter than anything I'd ever experienced.

1152
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:49.519
<v Speaker 2>I experienced a sense of home that was of such

1153
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.079
<v Speaker 2>a magnitude it was impossible to explain it.

1154
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:53.400
<v Speaker 1>It was as if my whole.

1155
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Life had been a dream and I had woke up

1156
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:58.679
<v Speaker 2>from it. Everything was so much more real and so homelike.

1157
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I had come home and I was so happy. And

1158
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 2>even that is impossible to explain. How do you describe

1159
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:07.679
<v Speaker 2>a happiness that is a million times stronger than when

1160
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:11.360
<v Speaker 2>you had your first child. It doesn't work in human language.

1161
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I've had that experience a couple of times, actually, and

1162
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:17.559
<v Speaker 2>you feel bad even admitting it, because you're like, oh, man,

1163
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:20.719
<v Speaker 2>like this guy's describing something that you know what I mean, Like,

1164
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:23.559
<v Speaker 2>you never want to say that an experience is more

1165
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:27.559
<v Speaker 2>profound than even your first your child, you know, But

1166
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:31.280
<v Speaker 2>It's indescribable, and you know it feels wrong saying that,

1167
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:33.239
<v Speaker 2>but that's the only thing that you can do to

1168
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:36.599
<v Speaker 2>express the depth of the thing that happened. You know,

1169
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:39.719
<v Speaker 2>I felt filled with everything. In connection with that. There

1170
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.000
<v Speaker 2>was a figure of light who was so bright that

1171
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see the facial features. He knew everything about me.

1172
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:48.400
<v Speaker 2>By that, I really mean everything. He knew the ugliest

1173
01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:50.920
<v Speaker 2>thing I thought and the nicest thing I did. He

1174
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:53.760
<v Speaker 2>knew it all. Yet I felt loved. He asked what

1175
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I had done with my life. Then everything that happened

1176
01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:58.960
<v Speaker 2>in my life was replayed. I lived it again. Since

1177
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I was fifty seven years at the time, it was

1178
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.440
<v Speaker 2>fifty seven years that passed in an instant. I got

1179
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.400
<v Speaker 2>to see every moment from my perspective and also from

1180
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:10.559
<v Speaker 2>the other person's perspective. You hear that a lot. Hear

1181
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:12.559
<v Speaker 2>it a lot, not just from your own perspective, but

1182
01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:17.239
<v Speaker 2>from everybody else. It was excruciating at times, and I

1183
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:21.519
<v Speaker 2>felt a great pang of selfishness and self absorption from

1184
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:25.119
<v Speaker 2>me despodant I said I had failed, But the light

1185
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:28.480
<v Speaker 2>figure said, with an almost humorous warmth in his voice,

1186
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:29.639
<v Speaker 2>nothing was wrong.

1187
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Everything was perfect. As it should be.

1188
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:34.559
<v Speaker 2>He said that I was human and as such it

1189
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:37.039
<v Speaker 2>is not possible to do everything right. It was about

1190
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 2>learning that love and its consequences mean everything. I was

1191
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:44.000
<v Speaker 2>so liberate and happy. Then he asked me if I

1192
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:47.960
<v Speaker 2>had any questions. I asked about war, environmental destruction, evil

1193
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:50.840
<v Speaker 2>and everything I have reflected on during my life. As

1194
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the questions went along, it was as if I changed.

1195
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:57.679
<v Speaker 2>I understood more, until I felt like I understood everything,

1196
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:01.079
<v Speaker 2>which was that everything is as it should be, everything

1197
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:03.880
<v Speaker 2>will be fined. I understood that it was so. It

1198
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:07.360
<v Speaker 2>was like I swelled, got bigger. Everything was getting brighter.

1199
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:11.519
<v Speaker 2>My experience is that we had endless time together. Everything

1200
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:14.719
<v Speaker 2>was eternal. Then he told me I was going back

1201
01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:17.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'd get well. Until then I had thought nothing

1202
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:20.199
<v Speaker 2>of my family or children. Then it was like being

1203
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.920
<v Speaker 2>sucked through a narrow tube at extreme speed. I was

1204
01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:25.679
<v Speaker 2>lying in my body in the fetal position. The sun

1205
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.440
<v Speaker 2>shone in through the blinds. I had the happiest morning

1206
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I have ever experienced. I ran happily down to my

1207
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.440
<v Speaker 2>wife as I felt that now I must tell everyone

1208
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 2>how it really is. Everything will be fine. My wife

1209
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.159
<v Speaker 2>was sad when she realized what had happened. She was

1210
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:43.280
<v Speaker 2>not happy like me. After a few confusing weeks, I

1211
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:46.280
<v Speaker 2>started to learn what I know now that even if

1212
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I know how it will be, it cannot be explained.

1213
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:52.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like describing a destination but only getting to use

1214
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.320
<v Speaker 2>two letters in the story. It has been extremely difficult

1215
01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:58.079
<v Speaker 2>to live with at times. Now ten years have passed,

1216
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I am permanently changed by the experience. Part of who

1217
01:04:01.199 --> 01:04:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I was there in the light remains. So I'm like

1218
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.920
<v Speaker 2>a double exposure and an eternal self that knows and

1219
01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:12.639
<v Speaker 2>an ordinary person like you. So I do, like most

1220
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:15.320
<v Speaker 2>others who have experienced this, try to show a little

1221
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:17.880
<v Speaker 2>of that love that was my home and eternity. I

1222
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:20.519
<v Speaker 2>tried to help others become a better person and for

1223
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:22.880
<v Speaker 2>me to be a better person. But I know that

1224
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:25.480
<v Speaker 2>everything will be fine in the end. Nothing in my

1225
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:28.880
<v Speaker 2>experience was what I thought I knew before. I didn't

1226
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:32.079
<v Speaker 2>realize how incredibly big the difference in reality here and

1227
01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:35.719
<v Speaker 2>there really is. I also didn't understand what it's like

1228
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:39.199
<v Speaker 2>when time no longer exists. I didn't realize what it

1229
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:42.400
<v Speaker 2>is to be completely loved and to swim around in love.

1230
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:45.280
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't matter. Everyone ends up there in the end.

1231
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:48.000
<v Speaker 2>So that's the end of that story, and then we're

1232
01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:49.800
<v Speaker 2>going to get to a couple of the updates that

1233
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:53.039
<v Speaker 2>you have transpired since it says high again as Jeffrey.

1234
01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:54.480
<v Speaker 2>First of all, I want to thank you for what

1235
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:57.199
<v Speaker 2>you gave me a chance to integrate and accept what

1236
01:04:57.320 --> 01:04:59.960
<v Speaker 2>happened to me. It's like a healing process that started

1237
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:03.320
<v Speaker 2>with your questionnaire and then continued with your warm, caring

1238
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:06.480
<v Speaker 2>answers by mail. I've taken hours and hours to write

1239
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:09.360
<v Speaker 2>down all I remember and all I thought about it.

1240
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:12.400
<v Speaker 2>It was, I sense, a tough process, having to deal

1241
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:16.159
<v Speaker 2>with my life review again, but everything else was liberating. Suddenly,

1242
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:19.280
<v Speaker 2>yesterday I came to a stop. My brain almost felt

1243
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:22.800
<v Speaker 2>swollen of all that I tried to understand. Then, really

1244
01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:26.480
<v Speaker 2>early this morning, this happened, he goes. I just woke up.

1245
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:30.039
<v Speaker 2>It's the change to wintertime. It is far too early.

1246
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:33.360
<v Speaker 2>It is four thirty am. But don't dare to fall

1247
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:36.159
<v Speaker 2>asleep again, afraid of forgetting. I was awakened by the

1248
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:39.639
<v Speaker 2>voice I recognized from the light figure whispering in my ear.

1249
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Don't try to understand, accept, don't try to understand accept.

1250
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:46.920
<v Speaker 2>It was like a mantra that was whispered over and over.

1251
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:49.119
<v Speaker 2>So I woke up to the sound of it. But

1252
01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:52.440
<v Speaker 2>like in my near death experience, it was in my head.

1253
01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:57.000
<v Speaker 2>That was in my head it sounded. I answered within

1254
01:05:57.039 --> 01:06:00.559
<v Speaker 2>myself that I wanted to understand. The voice laughed softly.

1255
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<v Speaker 2>A child can understand. The only role that you bring

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01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:06.199
<v Speaker 2>back with you everything is love. It's all about love.

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01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Love is the goal of all that exists, regardless of

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01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:11.800
<v Speaker 2>where and how it exists. When you try to understand

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01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:15.159
<v Speaker 2>what you experience through your mind, your logic, you limit it.

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01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:17.639
<v Speaker 2>When you try to understand what you have been through

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01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.280
<v Speaker 2>through your emotions, you hold it, accept it. All decisions

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01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:25.440
<v Speaker 2>in life need to be tested by the only valid question,

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<v Speaker 2>am I doing this out of love? If you follow

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01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.199
<v Speaker 2>that role, you will follow your life what your life

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01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:34.320
<v Speaker 2>is ultimately about. Then you do what you were born

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01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:38.119
<v Speaker 2>to do. Everyone who comes here experiences this. They experience love.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what they take back with them. It is

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01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:44.239
<v Speaker 2>the origin of all that exists. Then, the voice says,

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<v Speaker 2>with a smile, you knew that from the beginning. Your

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01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:50.960
<v Speaker 2>story contains basic human behavior. You want to understand. Many

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01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:54.840
<v Speaker 2>will recognize themselves in your own oscillation between reason and feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>What you need to understand is that the mind has

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01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:01.039
<v Speaker 2>a built in weakness. The mind confuse his emotions that

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01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:03.599
<v Speaker 2>lie in the primitive drives of man with emotions that

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01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:06.880
<v Speaker 2>originate in your origin. That is you, All of you

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01:07:07.079 --> 01:07:10.559
<v Speaker 2>are part of me. Love is the origin and the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was Johnny, and he wrote in a couple

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01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 2>more letters and kind of just trying to battle it

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01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:19.719
<v Speaker 2>in his own mind a little bit, not necessarily battling it,

1281
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:21.079
<v Speaker 2>but trying to figure out.

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01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:21.559
<v Speaker 1>What to do with it.

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01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:25.079
<v Speaker 2>And just as whatever that was, the angel or God

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01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:29.320
<v Speaker 2>or love, if it's a thing, right, like, was communicating

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01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:32.679
<v Speaker 2>with him like, dude, don't even try and think deeper

1286
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:34.800
<v Speaker 2>on it, Like you're never going to be able to

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01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:37.800
<v Speaker 2>fully understand it, which I thought was pretty interesting. I

1288
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:39.199
<v Speaker 2>think that there is a way to be able to

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01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:43.079
<v Speaker 2>at least better understand it. I don't think we're ever

1290
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:46.840
<v Speaker 2>going to be able to understand it all, but it's

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01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:50.440
<v Speaker 2>fun trying to, you know, that's my favorite thing. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean three amazing near death experiences. I mean you

1293
01:07:55.719 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 2>could see that these people were absolutely transformed in every way.

1294
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:02.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the one guy stopped drinking. It was like

1295
01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:06.440
<v Speaker 2>he never had a drink in his life. The other guy, well,

1296
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:08.480
<v Speaker 2>a couple of them both said that like, yo, all

1297
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:11.880
<v Speaker 2>there is is love, you know, there's nothing outside of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything else is just shades of gray, shades of you know,

1299
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 2>because love is on a pole, right, there's love and

1300
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:21.279
<v Speaker 2>hate and then there's everything in between. And I think

1301
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:22.960
<v Speaker 2>what the main goal of what they were trying to

1302
01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:25.960
<v Speaker 2>say is is that, look, there is there's not necessarily

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01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.159
<v Speaker 2>a wrong way to do it. Like you're not going

1304
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.239
<v Speaker 2>to hell at least from that one experience. You just

1305
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:32.439
<v Speaker 2>kind of get pushed back into the back of the

1306
01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:36.439
<v Speaker 2>line so that you can sit there and think about

1307
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:40.039
<v Speaker 2>what you want to do with yourself, just as the

1308
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:43.199
<v Speaker 2>spirit before you have, you know, eventually reincarnate again.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

1310
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<v Speaker 2>Like this is people's experience. It doesn't mean that it's

1311
01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:52.079
<v Speaker 2>absolutely right, doesn't mean that it's absolutely wrong. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't personally believe that they're just hallucinating. I don't

1313
01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:59.159
<v Speaker 2>buy that because it really does have a long lasting,

1314
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:03.119
<v Speaker 2>very intricate.

1315
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Effect on their lives. And here's my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If all of it is just chemicals that are shooting

1317
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:12.800
<v Speaker 2>off in your body as you are going through this

1318
01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:15.920
<v Speaker 2>miniature death process until you inevitably return back to be

1319
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:17.720
<v Speaker 2>able to tell the story. If that's all it is,

1320
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:22.319
<v Speaker 2>why don't you just experience different colors? Why don't you

1321
01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:28.399
<v Speaker 2>just experience sounds, just experience things that don't matter. I mean,

1322
01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:30.760
<v Speaker 2>we go to sleep every night, they say, we dream

1323
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:33.680
<v Speaker 2>every night. We don't remember most of the time. Why

1324
01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:37.159
<v Speaker 2>not just one of those things. Why not just an

1325
01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:41.479
<v Speaker 2>ever fleeting experience like a dream. If all it is

1326
01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:44.399
<v Speaker 2>is just chemicals that are going off, why is it

1327
01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:48.439
<v Speaker 2>shaped in anything at all? So I can accept you

1328
01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:50.600
<v Speaker 2>know that what is going on in the body. I

1329
01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:54.600
<v Speaker 2>can understand the how, but the why is the most important.

1330
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<v Speaker 2>Why do these people experience this? And why is it

1331
01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:01.520
<v Speaker 2>across the board, you know, the people that just have

1332
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:06.800
<v Speaker 2>profound experiences. I think these are something that we just

1333
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:11.119
<v Speaker 2>need to think about. And as we said earlier, we

1334
01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:13.880
<v Speaker 2>me and you, the spirit and the body, like the

1335
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:18.119
<v Speaker 2>one person saying anyway, But as I said earlier, don't

1336
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:22.600
<v Speaker 2>even try and compartmentalize it. I mean, contemplate it, think

1337
01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 2>about it, wonder about it. But I think that this

1338
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:30.840
<v Speaker 2>is something that can't be put into a box, just

1339
01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:34.079
<v Speaker 2>like the experience of life in general. Fascinating stuff, And

1340
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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I did want to do this episode,

1341
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:38.520
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to be doing multiple of these.

1342
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Kinds of episodes frequently.

1343
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:44.479
<v Speaker 2>These near death experience stories are too amazing not to

1344
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:47.560
<v Speaker 2>talk about. At a certain point, you're just like, oh

1345
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<v Speaker 2>my god, it just excites you to even read it.

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01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:53.319
<v Speaker 2>It reminds you of how beautiful life is to even

1347
01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:56.119
<v Speaker 2>live in it, and how important it is to love

1348
01:10:56.199 --> 01:11:00.399
<v Speaker 2>everybody and not fight and be divided and all these things.

1349
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<v Speaker 2>That's what it reminds me of. So yeah, we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you next time. Is the UFO mystery truly a scientific Watergate?