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<v Speaker 1>know what, We're still live, so it's all good and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna kind of switch over right there. We're

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<v Speaker 1>like two minutes, so you guys can survive two minutes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for joining me tonight. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about meshtastic tonight and it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>really fun live stream. I got Daniel here from Spec

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<v Speaker 1>five if you don't If you haven't heard of Spec

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<v Speaker 1>five or you don't know what it's about, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a link in the description blow we'll share it in

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<v Speaker 1>the chat as the evening goes on. No it's not

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<v Speaker 1>my camera, it's it's the background music file. Uh don,

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<v Speaker 1>But good guess, good guess. So good guests there. Special

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel members. Matt W three f IQ is in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Tom WB seven o U T, Cory in

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<v Speaker 1>T aeron KQ four h z K. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you guys being in the chat tonight. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>digital rancher Rob's in the house. I saw Bill in

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<v Speaker 1>there earlier. Yeah, Bill, we were talking about you on

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<v Speaker 1>Frank's livestream. We were talking about your trailer. We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about yours be Apocalypse bugout trailer that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to build one for myself. That's what we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for thanks, thanks for joining us tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill don in five SKT gifted ten Ham Radio memberships.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that. Thank you, Don appreciate that. Good to

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<v Speaker 1>see that in the chat. So thanks guys, appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>all being here. So a good deal. Okay, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've got enough time in there for it to

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<v Speaker 1>go live and send out notifications. I wanted to, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to start too early. And we're going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel on here. Where are were? Are we right there?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening, Jason, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Good man? I appreciate you taking the time out,

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<v Speaker 1>time out tonight. So Daniel, go ahead and introduce yourself

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, tell us about Spec five and then we

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<v Speaker 1>can get into your presentation just as soon as you're ready.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right again, thank you Jason for having us.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Daniel Saska. I'm I'm wearing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hats at Spec five right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like it, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm I'm a mechanical engineer by education and

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<v Speaker 2>an experience, but I'm kind of leading the whole product

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<v Speaker 2>team right now, which has been really exciting. And Spec five.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are we? We're a small technology company. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to call us a startup because we're trying not

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<v Speaker 2>to operate like that, but we were based just outside

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<v Speaker 2>of Austin, Texas. We started the business back January one

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<v Speaker 2>of this year, so we're you know, ten ten eleven

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<v Speaker 2>months into this thing now and it's been a wild ride,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know we are looking to be a resource

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<v Speaker 2>and and the kind of creator and builder of mesh networks.

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<v Speaker 1>So good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Spec five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys make some of them, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>best looking cases for the Lilygo radios and some of

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<v Speaker 1>uh that that one that what's that one that's called

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<v Speaker 1>I forget what it's called the T deck. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like a BlackBerry. Yeah, several really good looking

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<v Speaker 1>cases for like that made out of p l A

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<v Speaker 1>if I have that right or no?

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<v Speaker 2>G pet gg.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah pet G. So it's very good. In the

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<v Speaker 1>in the sun in the Texas sun is as you

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<v Speaker 1>and I both know as a thing. So good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, cool man. Yeah, okay, So we were at

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<v Speaker 1>as I said in the if you guys didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>my email, you should be on my email list. We

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<v Speaker 1>were at mesh Con about three weeks ago, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was it's it was the first weekend of October,

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<v Speaker 1>and Daniel gave this presentation at mesh Con and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, that was a really good presentation

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<v Speaker 1>and I would like to have that on a live stream.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I'm I died him to come on and

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<v Speaker 1>give this presentation. I called it the future of mesh

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<v Speaker 1>Tastic Networking. I hope that name is appropriate, so because

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what I got out of it when

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking at mesh Con. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what it sounded like to me. So I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>you get started with that here in just a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to let's let's go ahead and let

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<v Speaker 1>Frank say hi, because he's he's joined us there too, Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>you're muted.

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<v Speaker 3>Frank, Hey, hey, y'all, what's going on? We just got

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<v Speaker 3>off of my cigar. Social and man, catching up with

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<v Speaker 3>don Izzo is always a hoop. I love it. I

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<v Speaker 3>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree, Yeah, is is a riot.

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<v Speaker 3>So so as always for tonight, I'll be in the back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be watching for questions, and I'm gonna be interjecting

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<v Speaker 3>questions as they are prudent or I might hold it

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<v Speaker 3>to the last for a nice fun lightning round.

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<v Speaker 1>So cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, ready, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No problem, no problem. I'm still finishing my cigar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I gotta get a I gotta get a camera

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<v Speaker 1>set up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I got the dsl R that I take

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<v Speaker 3>everywhere with two do the lights with diffuses on them.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to turn on the porch light. I forgot

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<v Speaker 3>to turn that on to light me up a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit better. But I haven't done this in a while,

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, it was fun. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel, Are you a cigar guy?

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<v Speaker 2>I dab. I wouldn't say I'm gonna fishyado or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but if someone hands me a good one and I

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<v Speaker 2>know the difference between a not good one, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's good enough for us. That's totally good

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<v Speaker 1>enough for us. As long as you enjoy cigars, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really matter. We don't really care what level you are, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Or just Bourbon or whatever, Bemberge and choice, just just

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<v Speaker 3>hanging out with us, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, totally totally all right man, all right, thanks Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for being in the background. Okay, Daniel, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to share your screen, you can do that now.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure it gets centered correctly over here. Absolutely, and

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<v Speaker 1>yeah that looks Yeah, I think that's good. Okay, go ahead, man,

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<v Speaker 1>The floor is yours.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So at the last minute, I added a

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<v Speaker 2>few slides because I saw some people saying that they

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<v Speaker 2>want to know more about mesh Tastic, so I just

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<v Speaker 2>quickly added a few slides to account for that. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the the basic thing here is mesh and

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<v Speaker 2>decentralized comms. That's that's that's what we're all about. So

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<v Speaker 2>mesh tastic. Uh, kind of this new excite I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it's not relative relative. It's relatively new. Yeah, definitely compared

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<v Speaker 2>to amateur radio. But it's it's an open source, community

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<v Speaker 2>driven communication platform. It's decentralized, so it's generated by the

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<v Speaker 2>by the users. There's no towers router, there's no subscriptions,

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<v Speaker 2>no license is required because it runs on the nine

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen IM band. It operates on the on the LAURA,

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<v Speaker 2>which is on the lower protocol, which is the Long

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<v Speaker 2>Range Radio Protocol two fifty six bit encrypted both public,

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<v Speaker 2>global and private channeling. And then you can also message

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<v Speaker 2>user to user, so device to device, and your message

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<v Speaker 2>can hop across other devices to get there, which is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. So yeah, centralized versus decentralized. This. When I

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<v Speaker 2>found this diagram, I was like, this is perfect. So

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<v Speaker 2>your cell phones, your internet are centralized. It's all coming

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<v Speaker 2>from a hub and blasting out to you. There are

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<v Speaker 2>mesh Wi Fi networks out there, you know, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>still connected back to the main Internet. So mesh Tastic

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<v Speaker 2>you can have kind of some some larger repeaters out

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<v Speaker 2>in the world and connecting a lot of smaller say

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<v Speaker 2>handheld devices as we inspect five call call them. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just the the network is generated by the users. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no central hub, there's no central owner. It is the

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<v Speaker 2>people's network. So Spec five what we're all about is

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<v Speaker 2>building both software and hardware to create these mesh networks

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<v Speaker 2>and give our users, our customers, a more instant on experience.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, right now, or at least when when mesh

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<v Speaker 2>task really became a thing, was a very di y

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<v Speaker 2>you know, guy in his basement garage soldering it, assembling it,

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<v Speaker 2>designing their own three D printed case. We want to

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing all that. We're a bunch of engineers. This

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<v Speaker 2>is stuff that we've all done before. Our customers are

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<v Speaker 2>people that don't want to mess with any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>There are plenty of people in the meshtastic world, in

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<v Speaker 2>the Meshtaska ecosystem that want to do that stuff, which

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<v Speaker 2>is great me personally, that would be me too, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>our customers are people that want that out of the

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<v Speaker 2>box experience. And then kind of kind of some of

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<v Speaker 2>our company goals, you know, really looking at the broad spectrum,

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<v Speaker 2>the big picture of these decentralized communications. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>want to help scale this network that's community owned all

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<v Speaker 2>across the earth. Like there's no reason why Jason and

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<v Speaker 2>I here in Texas can't send a message to someone

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<v Speaker 2>across a mesh netw work to the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the world without meeting satellites or or or rather without

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<v Speaker 2>meeting Fiji or Internet. We want to prevent the obsolescence

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<v Speaker 2>of these open mesh networks. You know, Mestastic is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It has really started this very new niche area of communications,

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<v Speaker 2>and who knows if it's going to last forever. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to be there to prevent that obsolescence. We

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<v Speaker 2>also have a lot of experience. The members of Spec

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<v Speaker 2>five have a lot of experience and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>other tech technologies, both hardware and software, and we want

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to combine these technologies for these off

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<v Speaker 2>grid decentralized communication again making it both useful and fun,

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<v Speaker 2>maintaining the freedom uh no no subscriptions, keeping it private

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<v Speaker 2>and h and as a company, we find it really

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<v Speaker 2>important to collaborate with the community. That's why we held

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<v Speaker 2>mesh Con to get face to face with customers and

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<v Speaker 2>users and it was just it was a fantastic time.

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<v Speaker 2>We're definitely going to be doing it again next year

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<v Speaker 2>and I need to start planning that really soon. But yeah, quick,

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<v Speaker 2>little quick, little cool little diagram here of how the

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<v Speaker 2>Meshtastic devices operate. So your Mestastic device is a radio.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of your little gateway to Laura and Meshtastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety percent of the devices are going to be Bluetooth

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<v Speaker 2>connected back to a cell phone running the Meshtastic app

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<v Speaker 2>or in the future, our own app, and from the

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<v Speaker 2>app you have a text messaging capability. You also have

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<v Speaker 2>maps uh device and no data and then over the

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<v Speaker 2>lower mesh your messages bounce around to either all devices,

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<v Speaker 2>do the communications and the messenger. But yeah, the big

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<v Speaker 2>storing forward which is already which is already capability currently

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<v Speaker 2>Combining mesh Tastic with with with directional Wi FI and

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<v Speaker 2>B with with with with drones, which is a great

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<v Speaker 2>you know, low orbit satellite. But he wants to put

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<v Speaker 2>to get an invite. Jason if you're if you're interested,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well Robert, Robert's going to be the expert out

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<v Speaker 1>of the group of us. He's he's big into satellites.

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<v Speaker 1>which is Amateur Radio Satellite. They deploy satellites in the

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<v Speaker 1>space all the time. We put I say, we I

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<v Speaker 1>filmed a local club here putting a Laura device onto

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<v Speaker 1>a weather balloon about two years ago. We launched it

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<v Speaker 1>from North Texas. Then we tracked it and followed it

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<v Speaker 1>and they did it again like just like last month.

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<v Speaker 1>I w wasn't there that time though, but like that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>That balloon went up to like ninety or ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>video on my channel because they had a GoPro on

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<v Speaker 1>the balloon also, so I got all the GoPro footage

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<v Speaker 1>off of the balloon, but it had a Laura device

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I don't think it was mesh tastic, but

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<v Speaker 1>it will be next time if it wouldn't this time.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh that that's a great idea. It's a fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>idea to have something like that. I'm really excited to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, so so again, we want this satellite to

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<v Speaker 2>be very very community driven. So so there's definitely gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be there's definitely gonna be opportunities for for some crowdfunding

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe some sponsorship. But to be able to put

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<v Speaker 2>a cube SAT up that will hopefully last a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years with with some redundant meshtastic uh and and

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<v Speaker 2>and other mesh Mesh radios on board, maybe maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>few other a few other frequency bands on there, just

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<v Speaker 2>start with one.

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<v Speaker 3>Quick question from me here, sir, you're mentioning a lot

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<v Speaker 3>these play intertwined or you have to be play within

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<v Speaker 2>So at the moment, as far as I know, mess

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<v Speaker 2>Tastic doesn't play along with other nine to fifteen radios.

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<v Speaker 2>But I I want to say, and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>hope that that is not a roadblock in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so that that as as as other protocols

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<v Speaker 2>come out, we can kind of open doors. So that

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<v Speaker 2>say today, you know, ten seven, twenty four, say in

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<v Speaker 2>two years, mestastic is done. It's not being supported, But

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<v Speaker 2>there are tens of thousands, maybe even a million mess

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<v Speaker 2>Tastic devices out there. Why can't someone still connect or

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<v Speaker 2>why can't someone easily be able to reflash some different

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<v Speaker 2>software and keep that old radio working. So that's U

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<v Speaker 2>that's the dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura is a open protocol, if I if I'm describing

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<v Speaker 1>that correctly, Meshtastic is kind of like a version of Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>But Laura is a larger protocol than just Meshtastic by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would think that if you could incorporate Laura

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<v Speaker 1>into other things. You could probably expand the protocol network,

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<v Speaker 1>the protocol communication collaboration type thing. I'm not a programmer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it's it kind of makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>to me that you could do that. But yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with what you're saying, Daniel, A good answer to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah. Yeah, it's all all the all the

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<v Speaker 2>all the radio hardware is all the same, yeah, on

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<v Speaker 2>the nine fifteen, and it's kind of all the decoding

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<v Speaker 2>and encryption of the messaging. So yeah, we'll see what

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<v Speaker 2>the future holes. I myself am not a software guy,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I try to keep my answers in my

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<v Speaker 2>own lane. So yeah, some of the things that we've

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<v Speaker 2>some apps to make this whole mesh tastic thing fun.

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<v Speaker 2>They're kind of silly, they're simple, but hopefully it people

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<v Speaker 2>can look at this and say, like, all right, if

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<v Speaker 2>they can allow me to play Tic tac toe with

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<v Speaker 2>a guy sixty miles away, or chess or checkers on

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<v Speaker 2>the mesh when my WiFi is off, when my five

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<v Speaker 2>G is off, what else can they do with it?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so we've got three apps out on the

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<v Speaker 2>Google Play Store coming soon to Apple sorry iPhone users,

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<v Speaker 2>But we've got mesh tac toe Checktastic and mesh Chess.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, you started with the correct platform. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put it that way. We can agree, we'll move on.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll move on from there. That's all I'm gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll move on, luckily luckily getting an app approved for

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<v Speaker 2>the for for the Google Place, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>quicker yes, so yeah, these are pretty cool. You turn

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<v Speaker 2>off your Mestastic app, you connect your Mestastic radio to

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<v Speaker 2>to one of our apps. Hopefully your your your friend

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side has that same app. You send

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<v Speaker 2>them an invite, and then your linked in a game

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<v Speaker 2>and it's pretty cool. The if if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>Messtastic device with with the screen, the messages that that

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<v Speaker 2>come across are just a bunch of letters and symbols.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really confusing. But on your phone app you get

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<v Speaker 2>either the player moves you know, your moves, your opponent's moves,

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<v Speaker 2>or messages like you won, you lost, et cetera. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just a jumping off point for for for

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<v Speaker 2>what what can be done using these these mesh radios.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the more useful things that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be working on will be again on the app side,

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<v Speaker 2>So from the phone, you know, custom workflows for commercial applications,

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<v Speaker 2>different reporting apps, sensor integration, visualization of data. And then

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of more things that I think are really

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<v Speaker 2>exciting is being able to do uh, text to image,

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<v Speaker 2>Mesh to image transfer. And then something that we get

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<v Speaker 2>asked a lot, a lot of a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 2>send us emails and be like, does match Pastic do voice.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like, no, sorry, not yet, so uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from a phone, we can do voice to text and

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<v Speaker 2>text a voice right, so in time, that's that's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be something that that that we're gonna We're gonna add.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing that we had talked about that I forgot

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<v Speaker 2>to add to the slide at ATUH at mesh Con

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<v Speaker 2>was having like a dummy version of the Meshtastic app.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that was something that quite a few people

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<v Speaker 2>had asked for. And you know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>cool configuration settings in the in the Mestastic app, but

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<v Speaker 2>the average person doesn't need them. They don't need it.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you talk about like a light version or something. Yeah, yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna, Okay, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>about something like that a little bit more. And then

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<v Speaker 2>again other protocols. There's this protocol out there called Reticulum

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<v Speaker 2>and runs on the same same devices, same radios, same

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<v Speaker 2>chip sets, as as Meshtastic and UH and again hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>we can we can start to bridge some of these

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<v Speaker 2>things together, bridge some of these communities together, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just have the most useful and most effective mesh out there.

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<v Speaker 2>So devices, you know, adding adding other things like more

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<v Speaker 2>sensor capability. Most of your mestastic devices do currently have

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<v Speaker 2>telemetry capability, so that's your GPS data location, but that

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<v Speaker 2>also includes environmental data temperature, pressure, humidity, and there are

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<v Speaker 2>a few little things included in meshtastic to do kind

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<v Speaker 2>of motion detection and uh in vibration detection. So these

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<v Speaker 2>are all things that we want to create specific nodes

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<v Speaker 2>change in temperature, if it sees motion, it will automatically

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<v Speaker 2>send back a message. And then MESH controlled nodes, so

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<v Speaker 2>using a mestastic device as as an on off switch

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Tank just turned off his lights, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and and and maybe in the future Jason's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be sitting there with his meshtastic radio flickering Tank's lights

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<v Speaker 2>on and off and can go in full full party mode, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, like a flipper zero exactly, Like a meshtastic flipper zero.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good, like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Yes, So we have we have a device called

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<v Speaker 2>called the Relay that is your permanently mounted outside repeater.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to add a add to our offering, a

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle specific version as well as a version that bridges

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<v Speaker 2>over over the Internet that you can connect either direct

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<v Speaker 2>Wi Fi, direct to Ethernet and bridge greater distances than

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<v Speaker 2>what the metschastic protocol can do. A couple of multi

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<v Speaker 2>protocol devices. We've got the Nomad here in the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>That is our raspberry Pie based handheld device which has

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<v Speaker 2>the lower radio in it, and being Raspberry Pie based,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a slew of options for like software defined

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<v Speaker 2>radios and a whole bunch of other stuff that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anything about yet, as well as again supporting

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<v Speaker 2>the the Reticulum ecosystem. So the Nomad is gonna gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have both hardware editions and software editions in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the future. Again, multi protocol, I think is really the

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<v Speaker 2>future of a lot of this stuff. You know, why

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<v Speaker 2>can't why can't a guy on a on a Ham

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<v Speaker 2>radio take his voice message and repeat it onto messchastic?

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<v Speaker 1>So I like I like that the fact that that

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<v Speaker 1>says it's it's audio through f RS and data integrated

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<v Speaker 1>handheld transceiver plus voice messchastic. So I think it's Garman.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Garman. Who makes a device that is

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<v Speaker 1>like a mapping device and GPS device that has a

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<v Speaker 1>built in MERZ radio. I think it's Garman. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's an interesting topic. It's an interesting thing to

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<v Speaker 1>see because you could totally do that with a with

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00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>a Ham radio with a dual band or tryband Ham

418
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>radio and have access to a lot more things than

419
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 1>just a two wat FR S radio. So that would

420
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.559
<v Speaker 1>be something that you know, obviously it would it would

421
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 1>be a niche device that you could only could only

422
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>legally be used by Ham radio operators. Now I'm not

423
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>going to go down that rabbit hole today, okay, but

424
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>it would be available to Ham radio. But you could

425
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>have a gm R S version, you could have a

426
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:37.559
<v Speaker 1>Ham radio version. You could have an f r S

427
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>version or a MERZ version something like that with that's

428
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a free band version, if you will. That's an

429
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>interesting topic. I would love to see some future development

430
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>on that. That's that's a great to that's a great idea.

431
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that one's that that that one's coming soon, you know.

432
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Even just the simple FRS radio combining that with with

433
00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:01.039
<v Speaker 2>with the man with with the meshtastic transceiver. That's something

434
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>that that you can hand to anyone, right and and

435
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 2>that's and that's where we want to start. We want

436
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 2>to start with those devices that you can hand to

437
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 2>anyone and they can use, and then and kind of

438
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.720
<v Speaker 2>use that as as a feeler to then go deeper

439
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>into some of the crazy or cooler things like like

440
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>like like you're talking about GM's and and hand.

441
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Bands, build hands I think it's all possible. Good you

442
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>build one with a dual band hand radio transceiver. I

443
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>might I might have to buy like a bulk of

444
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 1>those from you and just sell them on my own

445
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.119
<v Speaker 1>website because I think that would be a thing. Man,

446
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's awesome to integrate something like that. That's

447
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>multi protocol. That's that's that's up my alley right there,

448
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:49.599
<v Speaker 1>So okay, go ahead, man, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

449
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, all right, collab collaboration, maybe we can.

450
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Put right, so totally yeah, that'd be great.

451
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 2>All right. You had mentioned earlier, I think before we

452
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.519
<v Speaker 2>started the live stream, our our new little device called

453
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>the Specter. Simply put, it is a itty bitty baby

454
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Android phone with a case that has a Meshtastic radio

455
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>built inside of it. So we lost one just at

456
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.519
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of this that this month. I think Jason

457
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 2>might have bought like the third one that that we built.

458
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.079
<v Speaker 1>I've got it inside. Man, I'm meant to grab it

459
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.119
<v Speaker 1>before the stream and I forgot. But yeah, I'm gonna

460
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>do a whole video about it, so y'all see that upcoming. Yeah.

461
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 1>It's a neat little device.

462
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:44.640
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you know, uh, this one, it was again

463
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>a jumping off point where it gets the Android phone

464
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.759
<v Speaker 2>and the and the meshtastic radio combined in a pocket

465
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 2>sized device. It's it's a two and a half inch

466
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:59.160
<v Speaker 2>touch screen, so it's you can you can you can

467
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 2>hide it in your you can put it in your pocket,

468
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and we preload it. We preload the phone with the

469
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 2>Meshtasta apps. As well as the current Spec five kind

470
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 2>of game apps. I saw that, so so yeah, so

471
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>that's where that's kind of where we're starting with it.

472
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Where we're going to go. There are some larger, small

473
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and expensive Android phones three and four inch screens. We

474
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 2>definitely want to have multiple mesh radio options. There's a

475
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 2>couple of different vendors, a couple of different chips sets,

476
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:40.839
<v Speaker 2>the SP thirty two, the NRS fifty two. People have

477
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>their preferences and as we as we kind of grow

478
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>the Spec family, we're going to have multiple options. And

479
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.079
<v Speaker 2>one of the one of the big things that we're

480
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 2>going to add is integrated GPS. You know, right now

481
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>you're relying on the GPS of the phone, which if

482
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 2>you're no SIM card, no Internet, well it's gonna work.

483
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>I've got it. I've got another guy like digging in,

484
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.759
<v Speaker 2>like seeing how seeing what he can do to use

485
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 2>the phone's GPS completely disconnected. I hope he figures it out.

486
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:22.279
<v Speaker 2>But we will be adding adding a model that has

487
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.480
<v Speaker 2>a GP that has the GPS connected to the to

488
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:30.599
<v Speaker 2>the Laura radio U for for for positioning, and you know,

489
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>and then we'll go crazy from there. Again. The exciting

490
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>thing about this about the specter is that as we

491
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 2>continue to add apps, people can use them because they're

492
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>going to have an Android device, They're going to have

493
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 2>a met radio all the time. And uh, you know,

494
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I personally hate having like a million different apps on

495
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the phone that I use every day. So when when

496
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>when factor came, it's just it really cleans up the

497
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.599
<v Speaker 2>usage of your comms here, like you can only have

498
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the apps that you need to communicate on a mesh

499
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>and keep a simple stupid man, I'm all about that.

500
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 2>So the kind of the The last thing we're dig

501
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 2>into here is hypermage, which is gonna which is the

502
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 2>protocol by US, by Spec five. So it will be

503
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>sourced at least the initial version. Uh, we might, we're

504
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>still in talks. We'll see how how excited people get

505
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:54.279
<v Speaker 2>about it. But it's going to be our proprietary protocol.

506
00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>We will probably have a separate version that is open

507
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 2>for people to use for free, and we'll have a

508
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 2>separate version for uh for more like commercial commercial customers

509
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 2>to use, you know, with appropriate functionality for both. It's

510
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna be it's it's in house scratch developed US, uh,

511
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:25.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, full customizable, adaptable to multiple different radio boards,

512
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>custom encryption capabilities, and like I've been talking about protocol bridging,

513
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>so why just being limited to one protocol And then uh,

514
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, rich content pay payload delivery, so again utilizing

515
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:46.519
<v Speaker 2>the phone or the compute power in kind of the

516
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:51.079
<v Speaker 2>companion device to the lower radio to do different you know,

517
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:58.559
<v Speaker 2>hmail invectors and in vector files, vector images across the

518
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 2>the mesh protocol. So the the way we're kind of

519
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 2>laying it out right now, uh, that's going to be

520
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 2>you're actually going to log into the device like you

521
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 2>would something on an IP network, So you're you're you're

522
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna log into it with with an IP address, your

523
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 2>email and password, And what you're doing is you're actually,

524
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>instead of Bluetooth connecting to the device, you are connecting

525
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>over Wi Fi that the device is creating, logging into it,

526
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 2>and then controlling the radio from there. So you're you're

527
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 2>actually like viewing a a a web page hosted on

528
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 2>your tiny, little match tastic device, which kind of goggles

529
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 2>my mind when you really think about it. Again, I'm

530
00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>not a software guy. Now, one of the cool things

531
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 2>this is going to allow people to do. We haven't

532
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 2>fully tested it yet and hopefully soon we're gonna be

533
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:13.360
<v Speaker 2>launching a i'll call it like a beta version, and

534
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.079
<v Speaker 2>and we'll want to put together like a beta test

535
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 2>group of hyper Mesh.

536
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And to tell you who needs to be number one

537
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>on that beta test group, Yeah, probably Robert, but I'll

538
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>be number two. How's that.

539
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Three?

540
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to be on the beta test group totally.

541
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 3>We can set up a little messed noe around here.

542
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Totally, and and when you guys get ready to deploy that,

543
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>we bring you back onto it and do another live

544
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 1>stream as well.

545
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely anyway, So the interesting back to the Wi

546
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Fi connection. The interesting thing that that allows you to

547
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:54.519
<v Speaker 2>do is have more than one phone or computer connected

548
00:36:54.800 --> 00:37:01.320
<v Speaker 2>to a singular radio. That's something currently can't do with Bluetooth.

549
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Correct.

550
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of one of those like interesting interesting problems,

551
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 2>interesting things that people have asked for, like why can't

552
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I have multiple phones connected to one Mesh task radio

553
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 2>like because Bluetooth? Like I don't know the real answer,

554
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>but that's the answer I give them, right.

555
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Right, It's a limitation to Bluetooth, that's true, yep.

556
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 2>And then the other thing that that we're really stressing

557
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 2>on hyper Mesh is is the UI. There are so

558
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 2>many great messaging applications out there. I'm a big fan

559
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 2>of Signal and we want to give that give you

560
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:56.760
<v Speaker 2>that experience. So by hosting the the UI on on

561
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the mesh tast device, we can do a little bit

562
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>more with it and and also allow the the user

563
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to then, uh have some custom themes, especially for like

564
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 2>commercial applications. You know, we can have that that company's

565
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:17.400
<v Speaker 2>logo and you know, kind of necessary settings pre configured

566
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 2>for them, but just making it more user friendly. And

567
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 2>again having other custom quick buttons, uh prepackaged messages in

568
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:36.519
<v Speaker 2>the messaging app for you know, easy quick quick quick communication,

569
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 2>sharing locations, sharing contacts, et cetera. So lots of customization

570
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.239
<v Speaker 2>and and again it's going to be really exciting to

571
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.559
<v Speaker 2>get this in the hands of users because y'all are

572
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.960
<v Speaker 2>going to give us like one hundred more things to

573
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.239
<v Speaker 2>think about. And and again that's to me, that's that

574
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:02.960
<v Speaker 2>that's that's the most exciting thing in my in my career.

575
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Having the time to like sit down with the people

576
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:11.199
<v Speaker 2>using the product. That's when I've always learned the most,

577
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's when I really got to understand how

578
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 2>how the product that I was working on, that my

579
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:20.400
<v Speaker 2>team was working on is really going to be used.

580
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:24.239
<v Speaker 2>So I'm really excited to get hyper mash out in

581
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the world, even as a beta.

582
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>And do you have an do you have a time

583
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>frame on that? It's estimated, I mean, you know, probably

584
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>not exact timeframe, but you know, what are you shooting for?

585
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're we're in the order of weeks. Okay,

586
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:46.960
<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's where we're at. Weeks weeks away.

587
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Weeks away, so maybe by Thanksgiving, maybe by Christmas.

588
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely before the end of the year.

589
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool, good.

590
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:59.039
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so that's hyper mech. That's kind of all

591
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I got. I didn't want to take up too too

592
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>much time. I wanted to leave a lot of opportunity

593
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.880
<v Speaker 2>for questions. But again, my name is Daniel Saska. Please

594
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:11.719
<v Speaker 2>reach out to us uh spec five dot com. We've

595
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 2>got to contact us right there on on the on

596
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:18.039
<v Speaker 2>the website. That's my email. You can email me directly.

597
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Happy to talk to you about our devices, even setting

598
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 2>up your own network. That's that. That's been a really

599
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 2>really rewarding part of my job is to have these

600
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:37.360
<v Speaker 2>conversations with people who know nothing about it and figure

601
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:41.880
<v Speaker 2>out how to best give them the solution that they need.

602
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:44.800
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we've got to We've got a range

603
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:50.519
<v Speaker 2>of different devices and uh, you know, happy to to

604
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:54.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of help help you build a package to meet

605
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:57.800
<v Speaker 2>your needs. And uh and this goes out to you know,

606
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>the singular user. This go is out to the ham

607
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 2>radio clubs. I've talked to other you know, volunteer search

608
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>and rescue organizations, even you know, municipalities and other government

609
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 2>organizations have reached out to us. And I want to

610
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 2>talk with all y'all, so please reach out. And uh

611
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and again thank you Jason for for for having me.

612
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Totally, yeah, totally. I know we've got some questions. I

613
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:32.599
<v Speaker 1>saw Frank responding to people in the chat. So Frank,

614
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 1>if you want to ye start in, go ahead.

615
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.119
<v Speaker 3>But you're talking about the lights and when I moved

616
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 3>my monitor up.

617
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, just your your laptop. Your laptop backing is reflective.

618
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:48.480
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so move it down there we go, bright.

619
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And I did pin the link to the Spec five

620
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 1>website to the top of the chat to guys, so

621
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>if you guys can go click on that if you

622
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 1>want to go ahead, go ahead. Frank.

623
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:59.760
<v Speaker 3>When you're talking about boys, this is a question from

624
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 3>me said that will currently you do not support it?

625
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Is that a limitation via the FCC or is that

626
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<v Speaker 3>a limitation in the bandwidth doing the voice?

627
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So the Laura protocol is designed to be a

628
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<v Speaker 2>small packet of data that you can send a very

629
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:26.280
<v Speaker 2>far distance. So it's like two fifty six bits, So

630
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<v Speaker 2>sending a an audio file, it would be I mean

631
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 2>probably a couple seconds long of an audio file that

632
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<v Speaker 2>someone could actually here, right, they could actually understand your

633
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:48.320
<v Speaker 2>your words.

634
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>We're the bitrates sign up to actually understand it, so

635
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:53.559
<v Speaker 1>correct correct?

636
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 2>You know.

637
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>The audio thing is is that's an interesting topic because

638
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, now you guys can tell me I'm wrong,

639
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:07.559
<v Speaker 1>and that's okay. In my mind, no one wants to

640
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>talk on the freaking phone anymore. Everybody wants to send

641
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:15.679
<v Speaker 1>text messages exactly. I much much much. I'm fifty freaking

642
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>years old. I would much prefer to send a text

643
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 1>than talk on the phone. I spent fifteen years in

644
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a call in an IT call center. I hate talking

645
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.519
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. That's me. That's my perspective. Not everyone

646
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.039
<v Speaker 1>feels that way, and that's okay. But I'm like, you know,

647
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's well, will it do voice? Well, no, but

648
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:35.079
<v Speaker 1>your freaking radio will do voice. Okay, But this is

649
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.599
<v Speaker 1>a text messaging service, and quite frankly, I think there's

650
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.639
<v Speaker 1>more people texting than Yeah, exactly, I think there's more

651
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>people texting today than picking up the phone and calling

652
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:48.119
<v Speaker 1>people today. Now, in an emergency situation, that may not

653
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>be true, but I'm just talking about a regular, normal day.

654
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 1>So the voice thing would be cool. I would love

655
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to be able to send an audio file to Frank

656
00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:59.119
<v Speaker 1>and him send one back to me. That'd be great,

657
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think that probably the technology and the protocol

658
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>will probably expand to that someday, probably maybe even sending

659
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>low res pictures. We were doing some SSTV at at

660
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Poto last weekend. That was fun, just sending very low

661
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>res pictures over over ham radio. It's it's it's a

662
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>fun thing to do. But think about it this way.

663
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a text messaging protocol, which on your smartphone. What

664
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 1>do you do with your smartphone? You text, Sure, you

665
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>look up web pages, and you play with apps and whatnot.

666
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>But when you're communicating with someone, do you pick up

667
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:35.360
<v Speaker 1>the phone and call them or do you send them a.

668
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Text or can we go through discord which is all text.

669
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:42.519
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, I think I think

670
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. But anyway, I had to put my

671
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:46.519
<v Speaker 1>two cents in there. Go ahead, Frank.

672
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:54.119
<v Speaker 3>You were just mentioning. I sorry, words, you were just mentioning.

673
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:56.239
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I get all jumbled.

674
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 1>My Just go Frank, you're fine. Go ahead, You're fine.

675
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:04.559
<v Speaker 3>You we're talking about cities and other big organizations reaching

676
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:09.000
<v Speaker 3>out to you to use this. Could you incorporate these

677
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.599
<v Speaker 3>questions from Tom? I see s forum sent over mestastic.

678
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I do not know what that is, so and I

679
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and I see s forum is a incident command service

680
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:31.079
<v Speaker 1>or center or something like that. It's it's basically a

681
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>disaster response training protocol that FEMA has, if I understand,

682
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>if if he's using the correct.

683
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Terminology, yes, I see.

684
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>It's basically forget what the forget what the protocol is.

685
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:48.760
<v Speaker 1>It's sending a form a a A a form that

686
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:52.119
<v Speaker 1>you can fill out with text with typing over like

687
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:56.400
<v Speaker 1>a pedia form sort of thing over over this thing that.

688
00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I definitely think that's that's possible. You know, we probably

689
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>need need a specific app on the phone.

690
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.079
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was just thinking about. Do it through

691
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 3>the app, and then then the your protocol will send

692
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:14.719
<v Speaker 3>the data fields over the data network, and then the

693
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:18.719
<v Speaker 3>receiving app and the other end will populate the forms correctly,

694
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.119
<v Speaker 3>and then that goes into the I c S database

695
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.480
<v Speaker 3>and maybe print out two O five. I am so

696
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:32.280
<v Speaker 3>familiar with that form. Yep, yep. That was a good question,

697
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of relevant at the time. Let's pull

698
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:38.599
<v Speaker 3>up what's I'm just going to go top to my

699
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 3>list here, David how Well, how well does Spec five

700
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.880
<v Speaker 3>hyper mess scale in terms of nodes? Could it be

701
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 3>effective in a large scale amateur radio network? And that

702
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:56.360
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of referring to. We took all these mess

703
00:46:56.480 --> 00:47:01.400
<v Speaker 3>nodes to Dayton and we overloaded the mesh network because

704
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 3>we had like two hundred plus nodes. Yeah, can you

705
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:05.840
<v Speaker 3>deal with They.

706
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Were m q t T as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

707
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 2>When you're running, when you when you've got m q

708
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.960
<v Speaker 2>t T on, that kind of busy's up the network,

709
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 2>gets you a lot of cool data, but definitely definitely

710
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.400
<v Speaker 2>busy's up the network a little bit. Yeah, this is

711
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna be. This is why we want to release a

712
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 2>beta version of hyper Mesh so that we can start

713
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.679
<v Speaker 2>to play with it in these scenarios. Uh, you know,

714
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:34.639
<v Speaker 2>I personally have not you know, set up two hundred

715
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:38.599
<v Speaker 2>devices in my shop with with with with hyper mesh

716
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:43.039
<v Speaker 2>on them, nor nor can our our small team operate

717
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.239
<v Speaker 2>that many devices that wants to really to really know

718
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 2>if if that's going to be a problem. But I'm

719
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.079
<v Speaker 2>glad people are asking about it because that's the stuff

720
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:55.800
<v Speaker 2>that that that that we want to test. And I

721
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.840
<v Speaker 2>think it's so interesting that it wasn't until mesh tasted

722
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 2>grew to that that people even knew it was a problem.

723
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, like you don't know it's a problem until

724
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:08.400
<v Speaker 2>you get there.

725
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:10.760
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, you know.

726
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 2>So so we wanna we we want to get it

727
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:16.159
<v Speaker 2>in people's hands so that we can, you know, start

728
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:18.960
<v Speaker 2>to anticipate some of these things. A little bit is

729
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>you're never going to anticipate everything.

730
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna mispronounce this name our amor amor a. Yeah,

731
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:28.360
<v Speaker 3>one of you guys.

732
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh, he's the he's the head guy. Okay, So I'm

733
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna he suspect five.

734
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So mirror is in the chat here. He says

735
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 3>that scaling is the goal of the idea behind adaptive

736
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.960
<v Speaker 3>transmit Power is to reduce the size of the ad

737
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:47.800
<v Speaker 3>hoc cells. And then he also says reducing the size

738
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:50.679
<v Speaker 3>of those cells is the key to allow a large

739
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.599
<v Speaker 3>number of nodes to exist. Other types of scaling is

740
00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 3>just the messaging relay performance, queuing and message processing at

741
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 3>a node, all those things we're working on. Oh look

742
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 3>at that I could read you can't.

743
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

744
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>So also he said something about low power that that

745
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 1>also means that your battery is going to last longer.

746
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, so you reduce the power transmit in those large scales,

747
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.840
<v Speaker 3>and this is kind of what are reducing so that

748
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:27.760
<v Speaker 3>your your node is not hitting the mass number of nodes.

749
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's scaling down what you're transmitting. So you might

750
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 3>only hit one or two nodes closer to you, but

751
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.119
<v Speaker 3>then that guy can also transmit out and now in

752
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:41.400
<v Speaker 3>the mess network. I really do like that idea. So

753
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 3>so it's not trying to process messages that have already

754
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 3>been processed that perfect. I love it. This one's from

755
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Don Does Spec five support four thirty three megahert devices

756
00:49:54.440 --> 00:50:01.320
<v Speaker 3>for radio? That must be a mistype, radio, SAIDA so

757
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:05.000
<v Speaker 3>do and tiny ground stations.

758
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:09.840
<v Speaker 2>At the moment, we are only on where we're only

759
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:16.119
<v Speaker 2>purchasing and supplying nine to fifteen nine to fifteen radios.

760
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Obviously a lot of a lot of the fantastic stuff

761
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:23.639
<v Speaker 2>you can get, the four thirty three versions, the eight

762
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:29.559
<v Speaker 2>six eight versions, and uh, you know, kind of the

763
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 2>sky's the limit. So if we see that there is uh,

764
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:37.199
<v Speaker 2>there was a reason for us to maybe have a

765
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:40.639
<v Speaker 2>four thirty three and a nine to fifteen right next

766
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 2>to each other to again do this do these kind

767
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:50.000
<v Speaker 2>of multi protocol things. We will absolutely do that. So yeah, again,

768
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 2>I uh, I'm very much novice when it comes to

769
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these protocols. So every time someone says something,

770
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm over on Google, what is that? And it's so

771
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 2>it's just blowing my mind all the different options, so

772
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.760
<v Speaker 2>wait to kind of start smashing them all together.

773
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>So those are different, those are different frequencies. So nine

774
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifteen megaherts has compared to four to thirty

775
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:19.119
<v Speaker 1>three mech herds, which four thirty three is in the

776
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Ham radio band. It's it's our seventy centimeters Ham radio band.

777
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:27.440
<v Speaker 1>So in other words, Spec five makes a lot of

778
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 1>cases for Lilygo radios, hell Tech radios and these kind

779
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 1>of things which you can get in those in those bands,

780
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 1>in those four to thirty three mega herds, the stuff

781
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:42.119
<v Speaker 1>that you guys, the stuff that you guys sell with

782
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:46.760
<v Speaker 1>the built in mesh Tastic device. The Laura device is

783
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>all nine hundred and fifty megaherts. But but you can

784
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>get like a like one of those what is it

785
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.039
<v Speaker 1>called the Trekker case. That's my favorite one, the Trekker

786
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:58.079
<v Speaker 1>case for for a lit lygo T beam that's nine

787
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.559
<v Speaker 1>that's four thirty three megaherts. You can to do that

788
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:06.519
<v Speaker 1>with a protocol we use inside of ham Radio called Arden,

789
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:11.400
<v Speaker 1>which is amateur Radio Emergency Data Network. You can via

790
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Ethernet cable you can connect a nine hundred megahertz radio

791
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to a two point four gigahertz radio and point them

792
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.239
<v Speaker 1>in opposite directions and have them talk to one another

793
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.599
<v Speaker 1>via the hardline, and then they're on two bands at

794
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 1>one time. So it would be nice to see something

795
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 1>like that with Meshtastic, where you could take a four

796
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 1>thirty three and a nine point fifteen and maybe even

797
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:36.400
<v Speaker 1>another band if there is such a thing, and somehow

798
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:39.639
<v Speaker 1>interface them together to where it's almost like a dual band.

799
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Meshtastic note at that point in time, I don't know

800
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>if that's such. I don't know if such a thing

801
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.400
<v Speaker 1>like that exists today. I've never seen it from meshtastic,

802
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:48.159
<v Speaker 1>but it would be a really cool thing to do.

803
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Awesome, Yeah, awesome. This next question is from Corey. How

804
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:59.000
<v Speaker 3>far will it transmit? Can we add gain antennas?

805
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:07.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, mess the the messitastic devices. Uh, you know,

806
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>line of sight is critical, so yeah, changing changing the

807
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:16.400
<v Speaker 2>antennas is going to be really important depending on how

808
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.760
<v Speaker 2>far you're trying to go. But the thing you have

809
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:24.079
<v Speaker 2>to remember is that your message can hop across other devices.

810
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:29.360
<v Speaker 2>So you either play going long range two different ways.

811
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:35.679
<v Speaker 2>You either maximize your transmit power and the gain of

812
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.159
<v Speaker 2>your antenna to go as long as possible, to go

813
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:41.960
<v Speaker 2>as far as possible in between nodes, or you just

814
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 2>put more nodes in your mesh so that your your

815
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:49.960
<v Speaker 2>message is hopping across multiple devices. Now. I get that

816
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people like they don't want to, like,

817
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:56.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, randomly put up nodes in public places and

818
00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:00.360
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. Totally get that. But that's that's that's

819
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.719
<v Speaker 2>something that that I always try to remind people. It's

820
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 2>like the way mestastic works, you do not need the

821
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:14.400
<v Speaker 2>perfect antenna now, having the perfect antenna will help you.

822
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:19.480
<v Speaker 2>But because your message can hop across other nodes, uh,

823
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.280
<v Speaker 2>you could cheat and just add another node in between.

824
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.880
<v Speaker 3>So have you done like best case scenario testing? You know,

825
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 3>you take take your node out to a giant field

826
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:32.360
<v Speaker 3>and and you have one note to like get the

827
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:34.920
<v Speaker 3>cars and just keep walking and see how far you

828
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:41.039
<v Speaker 3>can get before your node link drops a point.

829
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:46.199
<v Speaker 2>So we've done some of that that stuff. Crazy enough,

830
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:52.239
<v Speaker 2>our customers have beat everything that that that we've done.

831
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I had it was it was posted on on a

832
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Facebook group. It was one of our s five beacons

833
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and he got a message like one hundred and fifty

834
00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:07.000
<v Speaker 2>miles away and he just had the beacon sitting on

835
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 2>his window still in the second story of his house

836
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:13.800
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty miles away. We had another guy

837
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:20.360
<v Speaker 2>with They had two trekkers and one was flying around,

838
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.599
<v Speaker 2>lying around in a sessa at like fifteen hundred feet

839
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:25.880
<v Speaker 2>two thousand feet and then there's a guy down on

840
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.360
<v Speaker 2>a boat and they were like twenty five miles away.

841
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, line of sight, but like yeah and helds

842
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you know nothing, you know, no no crazy antennas, other

843
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:41.480
<v Speaker 2>other stuff around. Yeah, and you're still going that distance.

844
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:45.039
<v Speaker 1>We have a sing in him radio called height is mic.

845
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:49.119
<v Speaker 1>So if you have an antenna that's this big, this

846
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:52.320
<v Speaker 1>big right here, and you put it up at five

847
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:54.599
<v Speaker 1>hundred feet or one thousand feet, you're going to reach

848
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:57.679
<v Speaker 1>out for a very long way. It's not gonna matter.

849
00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:00.360
<v Speaker 1>So but if you're on the ground, you need a

850
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.199
<v Speaker 1>larger antenna at you know, that's higher up. So yeah,

851
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:08.639
<v Speaker 1>heights might especially for VHF or UHF, which nine hundred

852
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:10.760
<v Speaker 1>megahertz is considered in the U CHEF band, which is

853
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:13.400
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and three thousand megahurts. So the nine hundred

854
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.920
<v Speaker 1>megahertz is UHF. It is a it is a height

855
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:20.119
<v Speaker 1>as my scenario for for sure. Go ahead, Frank yep.

856
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Next question is from ham techconics or nonics. That's Bill hamnotics.

857
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:29.360
<v Speaker 3>I said that wrong, omnic.

858
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who that is.

859
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Uh V sr V E five sar.

860
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's Jody. Okay, go ahead.

861
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:38.760
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to hear about the hyper massed software.

862
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:43.079
<v Speaker 3>This was earlier. Will it require registrations of an email

863
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:46.639
<v Speaker 3>or anything to confirm the configuration.

864
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:53.079
<v Speaker 2>So at the moment, no, it'll just be kind of

865
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:57.360
<v Speaker 2>your uh your your log in into the device so

866
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.000
<v Speaker 2>that someone else can't can't pick it up and log

867
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.559
<v Speaker 2>into it. I don't think we're going to have, at

868
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:06.719
<v Speaker 2>least for the for kind of like the open protocol,

869
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:12.840
<v Speaker 2>the the consumer version of the of the protocol, like

870
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:16.519
<v Speaker 2>there will not be maybe unless you want to share

871
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:18.440
<v Speaker 2>with us, but there will not be like a log

872
00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:21.239
<v Speaker 2>of everyone who's who's got a note out there on

873
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.199
<v Speaker 2>the on the internet kind of thing. But you know,

874
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.719
<v Speaker 2>for for like a commercial application, it makes a lot

875
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:34.400
<v Speaker 2>of sense to you know, have a designated users for

876
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 2>for for devices, but for the kind of consumer level,

877
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.760
<v Speaker 2>the log in will just be whatever you created.

878
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Cool. Cool. And I meant to ask this earlier, but

879
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:55.159
<v Speaker 3>we were talking about long hops and you're trying to

880
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:58.280
<v Speaker 3>mess the world. How do you plan on tackling the oceans,

881
00:57:58.320 --> 00:57:59.360
<v Speaker 3>getting across the ocean?

882
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Satellites?

883
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Satellites? Yeah, you know.

884
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Another another interesting thing would be, you know, if if

885
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:20.039
<v Speaker 2>we can get commercial entities using this protocol and they've

886
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 2>got a node on a freighter, like why can't a

887
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:29.159
<v Speaker 2>public message hop across you know, all the all the

888
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 2>all the freighters that are crossing the Atlantic Ocean. You know,

889
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 2>so again, like if we're gonna be putting devices even

890
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:44.079
<v Speaker 2>in a in a commercial instance, it would be great

891
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:49.239
<v Speaker 2>to also let that device carry a message from a

892
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:53.039
<v Speaker 2>non commercial device. You know. That's kind of the dream

893
00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:56.360
<v Speaker 2>because everyone's.

894
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:58.559
<v Speaker 3>You kind of mentioned before your software you're playing to

895
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:01.599
<v Speaker 3>release open source from uh cole.

896
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Out the gate. No, we're going to keep it. We're

897
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:11.679
<v Speaker 2>going to keep it closed sourced, and we might have

898
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:14.599
<v Speaker 2>a version of it that is open sourced.

899
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Nice.

900
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:20.440
<v Speaker 3>I like that. This is from don or smoke signals.

901
00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Are f any options today or in the future for

902
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:28.400
<v Speaker 3>tracking vehicles or groups of people for public safety usage?

903
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so yeah, we're gonna be the vehicle version of

904
00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the of the relay will have GPS location will be

905
00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:43.639
<v Speaker 2>we will have both like USB B power and solar

906
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:47.719
<v Speaker 2>power options on that device, so you will be able

907
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:50.760
<v Speaker 2>to track its GPS location. Yeah, and we we talked

908
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:55.639
<v Speaker 2>about this at mesh Con, you know, for scenarios of

909
00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:59.039
<v Speaker 2>like five k's, ten k's and marathons and stuff, having

910
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:02.599
<v Speaker 2>an armstrong app with with a note in it that

911
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 2>is just pinging out its GPS location. It would be

912
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a really really functional use for this stuff. And uh

913
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:16.119
<v Speaker 2>so that's on our list of things to do. Uh

914
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I also want to make a trip up up to

915
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Robert's house and put a Meshtastic note on every single

916
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:26.599
<v Speaker 2>one of his goats so that he can track them

917
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:29.719
<v Speaker 2>around his his his ranch. That's also on my list

918
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 2>of things to do.

919
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 1>He wants to he wants to attach it to his goats,

920
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:39.000
<v Speaker 1>which which is a really fun thing, I think because

921
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see that. I'd like to do

922
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that with my at my hunt. I don't know how

923
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you do that exactly, but with your hunting leaves. I

924
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:53.800
<v Speaker 1>would like to attach it to some deer. You'd have

925
01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:55.679
<v Speaker 1>to tranquilise a deer to do that, but I'm not

926
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:59.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't It'll still be a fun thing to see.

927
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:01.800
<v Speaker 1>To see at work in that in that capacity would

928
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:06.480
<v Speaker 1>be fun. I know that. Okay, all right?

929
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:12.840
<v Speaker 3>From Jesus Freak does mess tactic fantastic crossband.

930
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:17.119
<v Speaker 2>At the moment, No, at the moment no, And again

931
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:22.119
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what we want to strive for, is to

932
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:27.559
<v Speaker 2>open it up and cross multiple bands, even if that

933
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:30.599
<v Speaker 2>means you know, third party apps to do that.

934
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:37.119
<v Speaker 3>This this one's from David. I will Spec five well

935
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Spect five tracker hyper mess Oh let me try this again,

936
01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:46.480
<v Speaker 3>well Spec five hyper Mesh have a atach feature. Attack

937
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:50.000
<v Speaker 3>is a cool piece of software for public safety and

938
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:51.519
<v Speaker 3>private enterprise.

939
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Attack is really cool. I know about this much

940
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:02.280
<v Speaker 2>about Attack. It is Uh, it is an impressive piece

941
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:02.920
<v Speaker 2>of software.

942
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 3>It is also pretty.

943
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 1>So Daniel, you had a guy. There was a guy

944
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:13.760
<v Speaker 1>in mesh con that I was talking to outside and

945
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:16.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember how we broached the subject, but he

946
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:18.039
<v Speaker 1>was he was talking about Attack, and I'm like, so,

947
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to interview somebody about attack and take us through,

948
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:23.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, how to how to work it, you know,

949
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:27.599
<v Speaker 1>just like like basic starting point up to an expert,

950
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. And he's like, oh, I can do that

951
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:31.280
<v Speaker 1>for you. And he told me, he's like, Daniel has

952
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:38.039
<v Speaker 1>my contact info. I don't remember the dude's name. Okay, okay, okay,

953
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:40.719
<v Speaker 1>all right, I need to get Yeah, because he said

954
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:42.880
<v Speaker 1>he said, I'll get with Daniel and have him have

955
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Daniel send you my info. I'm like, cool, And he

956
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:48.119
<v Speaker 1>told me his name. I just don't remember. I'm not

957
01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:51.800
<v Speaker 1>very good with that. And but uh, but I never

958
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I never heard from you, which probably means

959
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:56.880
<v Speaker 1>he never he never contacted you and told but I've

960
01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:58.880
<v Speaker 1>been meaning to email you about that. I'm like, I'd

961
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 1>really like to get that onto the channel and talk

962
01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:06.559
<v Speaker 1>about Attack because it's a very Android tactical comms. It's

963
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:09.239
<v Speaker 1>an app on your Android phone. Sorry, iPhone guys.

964
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:11.679
<v Speaker 2>But there there is there is there is.

965
01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:13.360
<v Speaker 1>An iPhone okay, good, good, good.

966
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.440
<v Speaker 2>There is I Tack and it's it's all the same.

967
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:18.119
<v Speaker 1>It's all the same, goody good good.

968
01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they talk across it should be.

969
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:22.519
<v Speaker 1>It should be. I like to tease iPhone guys, but

970
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:24.760
<v Speaker 1>there really should be. There should be. It should be

971
01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:27.519
<v Speaker 1>cross platform. So yeah, but if you if you know

972
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:30.639
<v Speaker 1>who I'm talking about, after this is done tonight or

973
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:32.440
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow morning, sometimes send me an email let me know

974
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that guy's info. I'd like to contact him.

975
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, So back to that question, Yeah, go ahead.

976
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:43.440
<v Speaker 2>So the way the way Attack and Mestastic work together

977
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:49.599
<v Speaker 2>is a is a forwarding application. So on your Android

978
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:54.400
<v Speaker 2>phone you download the Attack app. It is ginormous, and

979
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:56.880
<v Speaker 2>then and then there are all these plugins that you

980
01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:01.159
<v Speaker 2>can add to Attack, and one of those plugs is

981
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:06.280
<v Speaker 2>a piece of software that makes the Mestastic app transmit

982
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:09.440
<v Speaker 2>data over to the attac app and vice versa. So

983
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:15.199
<v Speaker 2>that's all that stuff's all all all open source by

984
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the grace of the open source gods. So if they've

985
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 2>done it for Mestastic, we can replicate that for HyperMesh.

986
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Love it, Love it good.

987
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Don has a question here these outdoor devices, are they

988
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:35.719
<v Speaker 3>waterproof or dual dustproof? That's dustproof and have a i

989
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:36.679
<v Speaker 3>P ratings.

990
01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Our devices are not waterproof yet. They are not i

991
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:49.320
<v Speaker 2>P rated yet. That's on our list of things to do,

992
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:52.320
<v Speaker 2>on our list things to do. So one of the

993
01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:54.679
<v Speaker 2>one of the one of the interesting things that that

994
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:57.800
<v Speaker 2>we're doing that's I think it's a lot different and

995
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:01.079
<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of like a a vision and a

996
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a passion project for my boss. A

997
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:12.280
<v Speaker 2>mirror is how do we keep manufacturing stateside? And you know,

998
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:16.119
<v Speaker 2>the perfect scenario for us to make the perfect case

999
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 2>that was IP rated and all that is to go

1000
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:25.280
<v Speaker 2>injection molding, which we would have to outsource. So our devices.

1001
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:27.800
<v Speaker 2>We are doing all the three D printing and assembly

1002
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 2>in house right here in Texas, and our goal is

1003
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:36.800
<v Speaker 2>to continue that as long as we can. There are

1004
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:41.280
<v Speaker 2>ways to make three D printed enclosures, three D printed

1005
01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:44.960
<v Speaker 2>cases on a different materials to make them waterproof, to

1006
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 2>give them an ip rating, that is in our pipeline

1007
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.840
<v Speaker 2>to do. There are also some other sneaky ways to

1008
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:56.599
<v Speaker 2>mold plastics that don't require a big giant injection molded

1009
01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:00.840
<v Speaker 2>big big giant injection molding machine. Don't require us to

1010
01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:06.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, buy quantities of parts in the thousands and

1011
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the ten thousands. You know, we some of these products

1012
01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:14.199
<v Speaker 2>we've sold one hundred of. And you know we no

1013
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:17.159
<v Speaker 2>one can afford as a young company to go out

1014
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:20.599
<v Speaker 2>and buy ten thousand parts for something you've only you've

1015
01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:24.840
<v Speaker 2>only sold sold one hundred of. So it's been a

1016
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:29.320
<v Speaker 2>really interesting thing to see how, you know, manufacturing at scale,

1017
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:34.440
<v Speaker 2>manufacturing at a small scale really really happens. So yeah,

1018
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:38.199
<v Speaker 2>that's uh, you know, I want to be truthful that.

1019
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:45.280
<v Speaker 3>It's in the cards for later. That's that's but except so.

1020
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:47.079
<v Speaker 1>This is the one hold on, Frank, This is the

1021
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:49.280
<v Speaker 1>one right here that I'm showing on the screen right now.

1022
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:53.079
<v Speaker 1>This is called this the Beacon Spec five beacon. And

1023
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Robert turned me onto this device and it it it's

1024
01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:59.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of like they don't have a good picture of

1025
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:03.320
<v Speaker 1>it here. In my opinion, that's sideways. So if you say,

1026
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:05.519
<v Speaker 1>if you turn it ninety degrees to the right from

1027
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:07.199
<v Speaker 1>where you see it right now, and then the antenna

1028
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:10.000
<v Speaker 1>will fold up so it's vertical. This is a little

1029
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.639
<v Speaker 1>solar panel on the side here, and this is pet

1030
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:18.880
<v Speaker 1>G printed material. I have this sitting in the dash

1031
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:22.280
<v Speaker 1>of my pickup truck in Texas. Now granted it's not

1032
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 1>August anymore, but it's the solar panel keeps the device

1033
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.360
<v Speaker 1>charged and then I can plug an external intent. I

1034
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:31.599
<v Speaker 1>have an external magmunt intended for nine hundred and fifty

1035
01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Mega Mega HiT's on top of my truck. But it's

1036
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:37.880
<v Speaker 1>not waterproof and it's not dustproof, but it is absolutely

1037
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Texas sun proof, and I think it's pretty darn cool myself.

1038
01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:43.880
<v Speaker 1>So and again Robert did this. He had one of

1039
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:45.079
<v Speaker 1>these for a while and he was like, man, I

1040
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:46.559
<v Speaker 1>s had that in my dash for like two or

1041
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:48.639
<v Speaker 1>three months. Never had a problem with it, never had

1042
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:52.079
<v Speaker 1>any wharping, melting, nothing like that at all. So this

1043
01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:54.280
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm currently running in my truck for my

1044
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 1>mobile meshitastic device with an external antenna that just it

1045
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:03.159
<v Speaker 1>just runs because it's got the sun during the day

1046
01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:05.679
<v Speaker 1>and then the battery will last for a couple of days.

1047
01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I think even if you don't have sun. So but

1048
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that's that's why I'm running right now.

1049
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:14.400
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the beacon runs the runs the rack wireless

1050
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:19.039
<v Speaker 2>wise block right hardware. So that's the you know, the

1051
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:24.720
<v Speaker 2>super super efficient and around fifty two we've done over

1052
01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:27.920
<v Speaker 2>like ten days on battery alone on a beacon.

1053
01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1054
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:32.840
<v Speaker 2>So you know, the solar panel isn't big enough to

1055
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.520
<v Speaker 2>like charge your battery. It's really there to reduce the

1056
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:40.239
<v Speaker 2>draw on the battery, right. But yeah, if you're getting

1057
01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:42.560
<v Speaker 2>good sun on a windshield, you know there's a pretty

1058
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 2>good chance that the board isn't even drawing off the battery.

1059
01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, Right. It's a good device.

1060
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I really like that and I and I do have

1061
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:54.199
<v Speaker 2>plans to do like a remix of the beacon to

1062
01:08:54.319 --> 01:09:00.680
<v Speaker 2>make it perfect for the dashboard. So yeah, I've had

1063
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:02.279
<v Speaker 2>multiple people be like, we whant I put it on

1064
01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:04.840
<v Speaker 2>my dashboard? But the thing slides around and stuff, and

1065
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, you know, we're gonna make one

1066
01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:10.279
<v Speaker 2>that's that's meant to be mounted to the dashboard.

1067
01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, my dashboard is slight slightly downward towards my windshield.

1068
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Mine doesn't move. I mean every car is different. You

1069
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:21.159
<v Speaker 1>got dashboards that are curved and slick and what blah

1070
01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:23.560
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. But yeah, mine on my truck and my

1071
01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:28.359
<v Speaker 1>dashboard is slightly downward facing towards the front windshield. It

1072
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:30.560
<v Speaker 1>does not move at all. I've had it there since Meshcan.

1073
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I got in at mesh Con, which was three weeks ago.

1074
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I've had it sitting in my dash since mesh Con.

1075
01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:36.760
<v Speaker 1>No problems at all.

1076
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Yep, excellent, glad to hear that.

1077
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:46.760
<v Speaker 3>Awesome, awesome if Spec five. This is from David planning

1078
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:51.439
<v Speaker 3>to go to ham Kashin or any other amateur radio conventions.

1079
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh so yeah, Daniel had emailed me the other day asking, Hey,

1080
01:09:56.159 --> 01:09:58.800
<v Speaker 1>what hamfests are in Texas? So tell me what you

1081
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:00.279
<v Speaker 1>guys are thinking about that I'd like to know.

1082
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, you know, this year has been a wild

1083
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:11.840
<v Speaker 2>ride getting into this space, getting connected with the people,

1084
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:19.960
<v Speaker 2>and I love that it's so community oriented. I love that.

1085
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that is amazing. So unfortunately, you know, developing,

1086
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:29.600
<v Speaker 2>developing a product, and building a business did not leave

1087
01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 2>us the time to to travel to these places. You know,

1088
01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I try to, I try to have a little bit

1089
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:47.279
<v Speaker 2>of a life outside of work. But yeah, you know,

1090
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:50.079
<v Speaker 2>for twenty twenty five, I think we definitely want to

1091
01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:53.520
<v Speaker 2>at least get out to some of these local local

1092
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Texas ham conventions. You know, maybe I can, maybe I

1093
01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:02.840
<v Speaker 2>can tag along on a on a road trip with

1094
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:05.479
<v Speaker 2>with with you or Robert up to up to Ohio

1095
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:07.239
<v Speaker 2>for big Ham Bench and.

1096
01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:09.640
<v Speaker 1>You know we'll see yeah man, yeah, we'll see.

1097
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1098
01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Well there's so I So the ones I told Daniel

1099
01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:18.680
<v Speaker 1>about was Cowtown in January, Houston in March, and Belton

1100
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:22.079
<v Speaker 1>in April. And those are all small region. I mean,

1101
01:11:22.119 --> 01:11:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Houston's a decent size show. Hro goes to Houston, but

1102
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the biggest three shows of the year, the second largest

1103
01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:33.720
<v Speaker 1>show of the entire year is in Orlando in February.

1104
01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:35.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's what people are talking about ham cash in

1105
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:39.439
<v Speaker 1>the chat right now. Orlando's a very fun show. We

1106
01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:42.039
<v Speaker 1>go up there and we usually get a hotel room

1107
01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:44.960
<v Speaker 1>for Orlando, but this year I'm planning on camping. More

1108
01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:47.199
<v Speaker 1>to come on that later, but yeah.

1109
01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Dayton convinced my wife to go to Orlando.

1110
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not that far from Disney World, so she

1111
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:54.560
<v Speaker 1>could go hang at Disney World for the for the weekend.

1112
01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:58.439
<v Speaker 1>It'd be totally cool. But but yeah, so and then

1113
01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Dayton Hamvention is in May and Huntsville is in August.

1114
01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:05.119
<v Speaker 1>And we drive to Dayton in May, and we drive

1115
01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to Huntsville in August from Texas and yeah, man, you

1116
01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:12.000
<v Speaker 1>want to tag along car carpool or or grab the

1117
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.359
<v Speaker 1>passenger seat or something. Yeah, we can make that happen.

1118
01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:17.800
<v Speaker 1>That'd be fun. We'll do it. We'll figure something out.

1119
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Excellent. Yeah. Yeah, So it's again, it's it's on our

1120
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:25.239
<v Speaker 2>list of things to do. We've we've kind of dipped

1121
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:27.680
<v Speaker 2>our toe into the water of the community and we

1122
01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:32.000
<v Speaker 2>want to keep keep getting deeper because, you know, the

1123
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.720
<v Speaker 2>the more that we've kind of like met people face

1124
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:38.000
<v Speaker 2>to face, it has really really allowed us to better

1125
01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:41.359
<v Speaker 2>understand what what really the needs are, what what the

1126
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:46.199
<v Speaker 2>people want, you know, and that's what we want to do.

1127
01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the HAM radio community is primed for this protocol,

1128
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:55.239
<v Speaker 1>for this device, these devices, this this this type of thing.

1129
01:12:56.760 --> 01:12:58.960
<v Speaker 1>And you guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but

1130
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm not seen any Messtastic vendors at any of these

1131
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:04.600
<v Speaker 1>HAM radio shows yet. So we would love to get

1132
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you guys there as the first ones.

1133
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Daniel, are you a licensed? Are you a Ham?

1134
01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Not yet?

1135
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're going to get I got one of these,

1136
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:15.640
<v Speaker 3>and he'd be like, yes.

1137
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I asked that question. I asked that question at mesh

1138
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Con and he's like, not yet. And then he starts

1139
01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:23.479
<v Speaker 1>talking about drone licensing. He's like, it's easier to get

1140
01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the Part one O seven drone license in his hand radio.

1141
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:32.079
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, there's no real maps you even.

1142
01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Know how to.

1143
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:35.640
<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's not. If you got the drone license,

1144
01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:39.039
<v Speaker 1>you should get a hand license. Man, it's much much similar.

1145
01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody learned, everybody learns differently, so maybe it

1146
01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:44.640
<v Speaker 1>is for you, but no, it shouldn't be. No.

1147
01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:47.319
<v Speaker 2>No, well I'm going to have to do it just

1148
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:49.319
<v Speaker 2>so I can come back on the live stream and

1149
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:50.319
<v Speaker 2>tell people what.

1150
01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, absolutely absolutely.

1151
01:13:53.079 --> 01:13:57.720
<v Speaker 3>Cool Dusty is. Asking does Spec five ship internationally?

1152
01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:05.399
<v Speaker 2>We are starting to get there again. Right now, we're

1153
01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:10.159
<v Speaker 2>only supplying nine to fifteen megahertz boards, so we're not

1154
01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:13.520
<v Speaker 2>going to be We're not sourcing the four thirty three

1155
01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:16.560
<v Speaker 2>over the eight six ' eight boards, so we're not

1156
01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:19.920
<v Speaker 2>going to ship you if if that's the if that's

1157
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.039
<v Speaker 2>the frequency you need, we're not we're not going to

1158
01:14:22.079 --> 01:14:24.960
<v Speaker 2>ship you. We're not going to ship you there are

1159
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:27.119
<v Speaker 2>We're not going to be able to supply that device

1160
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:30.720
<v Speaker 2>to you. Rather. There are a few other countries that

1161
01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:37.640
<v Speaker 2>run nine fifteen, and I think we have. If we haven't,

1162
01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:41.199
<v Speaker 2>we're working on figuring out how to do that international shipping.

1163
01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:46.039
<v Speaker 2>So if your country takes take operates on nine fifteen,

1164
01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:49.239
<v Speaker 2>send us an email and uh and when we have

1165
01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:51.520
<v Speaker 2>that available, we'll be a fulfill your order.

1166
01:14:52.359 --> 01:14:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Love it, love it? Daniel is asking our Douglas. I'm sorry,

1167
01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Douglas is asking whis one is which mess tasted?

1168
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:01.279
<v Speaker 2>No?

1169
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Can you mount to a mast or tree?

1170
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:09.119
<v Speaker 2>All right? So the the relay is going to be

1171
01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:16.680
<v Speaker 2>your actually waterproof, permanently mounted solution. That's what the relay

1172
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:23.119
<v Speaker 2>is for, big old solar panel. On a cloudy day

1173
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:28.399
<v Speaker 2>in Texas, that solar panel is still charging the battery beautiful.

1174
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:35.159
<v Speaker 2>So I hope I've I've had one out out in

1175
01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:40.680
<v Speaker 2>the field by our shop since early February and I've

1176
01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:46.520
<v Speaker 2>only touched it once to upgrade the firmware. And I'm

1177
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:50.600
<v Speaker 2>really hoping that the customers that I bought that have

1178
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:54.640
<v Speaker 2>that same experience with it. So yeah, that's uh, that's

1179
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:58.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna be the one permanently mounted outdoor all the time.

1180
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:02.560
<v Speaker 2>All of our other devices. You know, you could absolutely

1181
01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:07.880
<v Speaker 2>temporarily put up. But again they're not waterproof, so you know,

1182
01:16:07.960 --> 01:16:13.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe a ziploc bag. Sorry, but you know, the relay

1183
01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:16.239
<v Speaker 2>is the one that's that's meant for that.

1184
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:19.159
<v Speaker 1>I need to get one of these to put up

1185
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:23.840
<v Speaker 1>at the house here. Well, I actually needed about three

1186
01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:26.439
<v Speaker 1>of them. I want to put one up at the house.

1187
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:29.439
<v Speaker 1>My church is about a half a mile that way,

1188
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:32.399
<v Speaker 1>and I have I have a I have keys to

1189
01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:34.920
<v Speaker 1>my church. Don't ask me why they gave me keys,

1190
01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:37.760
<v Speaker 1>but they did, and I do security at the church.

1191
01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Terrible, terrible, terrible idea.

1192
01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:41.960
<v Speaker 1>But the roof of the church is probably pretty good.

1193
01:16:42.039 --> 01:16:45.000
<v Speaker 1>You get forty yeah, forty or forty five feet in

1194
01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:48.039
<v Speaker 1>the air. My church is the roof in there, so

1195
01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I could go put one up there. And I want

1196
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:54.359
<v Speaker 1>to put one at the hunting Lease Frank yeah, so yeah,

1197
01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:56.359
<v Speaker 1>oh you know what make that for a put one

1198
01:16:56.359 --> 01:16:58.159
<v Speaker 1>in Galveston as well. So I need to get a

1199
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:00.920
<v Speaker 1>few of these things. These things are cool. I saw these.

1200
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.239
<v Speaker 1>You guys have these on display at mesh Con and

1201
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:05.680
<v Speaker 1>someone bought your display and I'm like, okay, good he

1202
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:07.319
<v Speaker 1>bought it. That means I don't have to buy it.

1203
01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:10.199
<v Speaker 1>But I need I do need to get I need

1204
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:11.960
<v Speaker 1>do need to get two or three of these things

1205
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:14.399
<v Speaker 1>and put them up and do videos about them because

1206
01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:16.640
<v Speaker 1>these are these are very fun these are very fun

1207
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 1>looking devices because they will do. You've got to diepole

1208
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:23.119
<v Speaker 1>intenta up there at the top. You've got that decent

1209
01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:25.760
<v Speaker 1>sized solar panel right there. That's not going to be like,

1210
01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:29.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, three watt, not a three watt solar panel

1211
01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:30.800
<v Speaker 1>like some of these other devices have.

1212
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:32.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a twelve.

1213
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:35.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a twelve watch. Okay, twelve. It looks it.

1214
01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Looks even it's meant to charge like two security cameras

1215
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 2>at once.

1216
01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So I mean these devices don't use a lot

1217
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:45.680
<v Speaker 1>of power. So yeah, it's no.

1218
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:49.439
<v Speaker 2>It has more than enough power. That's that's why I say,

1219
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:54.800
<v Speaker 2>like I've got the little you know, USB like current

1220
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:58.279
<v Speaker 2>current gauge that I can put in line and again

1221
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:02.560
<v Speaker 2>cloudy day, that's the vaultage regular or on that solar

1222
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:08.239
<v Speaker 2>panel still outputting it clean five cloudy day. I am

1223
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:11.680
<v Speaker 2>when if someone tells me that like their relay died,

1224
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:16.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna want that one back to figure out what broke,

1225
01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:18.640
<v Speaker 2>because I'm going to be confused. You know, we've had

1226
01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:21.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, we've we've we've had a couple of quality

1227
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:25.600
<v Speaker 2>issues here and there, but we've we've we've we've made

1228
01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:28.039
<v Speaker 2>it right with those customers and got their got their

1229
01:18:28.119 --> 01:18:32.520
<v Speaker 2>units swapped out, and unfortunately it turned out to be

1230
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:39.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, sourcing vendor vendor vendor related quality issues. But

1231
01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:42.479
<v Speaker 2>the ones that have been running have been running strong.

1232
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:44.560
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm.

1233
01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hate you up an email

1234
01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:49.039
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow and say, hey, make me a deal on four

1235
01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:51.920
<v Speaker 1>of these because I want to get four of them. Seriously,

1236
01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not joking. I'm actually gonna send you

1237
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:53.880
<v Speaker 1>an EMO.

1238
01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:59.279
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Frank, I I am out of questions. I

1239
01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:03.119
<v Speaker 3>have a couple of comments I copied down for super

1240
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:08.920
<v Speaker 3>chats and we got armis grinnings from the rebels who

1241
01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:12.600
<v Speaker 3>use the technology to advance the cause of freedom. I'm

1242
01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:15.319
<v Speaker 3>down with the centralization.

1243
01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Ah right right, yeah, decentralized network absolutely.

1244
01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:22.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and John, just put one up. I want to

1245
01:19:22.119 --> 01:19:24.000
<v Speaker 3>see this mess Texas series.

1246
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I've got a couple of meshtastic videos on

1247
01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the channel already, but putting this type of stuff up

1248
01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:34.439
<v Speaker 1>at the Hunting Lease which is one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five acres of boondocking basically because there's no water, solar, well,

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01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:43.560
<v Speaker 1>there's some solar, but there's no grid power or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that out there. And then putting one up, putting

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<v Speaker 1>one up into my Galveston house since I don't know

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01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:51.279
<v Speaker 1>if there's anyone in Galveston using meshtastic or not, but

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01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:56.840
<v Speaker 1>give it a shot fund out so ye'll find out. Yeah, totally. So.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a couple of comments here. I liked, Frank's

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<v Speaker 3>torch is lit? Or Frank has his torches lit? Still?

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<v Speaker 3>Has he been voted off the island yet?

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<v Speaker 1>That's good?

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<v Speaker 3>And another one from Douglas here questions for Frank, are

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<v Speaker 3>you trying to keep the bugs away?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought this is a beautiful ambience.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it looks good. Your camera is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit lopsided, so it looks like you're sitting.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it was level, but when I let go of

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<v Speaker 3>the camera it turned just enough and I couldn't get

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<v Speaker 3>it quite level. So yeah, sometimes it is what it is,

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<v Speaker 3>especially what I was having camera issues before. Leveling was

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<v Speaker 3>the last thing I was trying to get done.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks it looks good. I like yes, very rustic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>totally love it, love it. Thank you for the super chat, John, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>uh hey man, we've been going for about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty minutes, which this has been an awesome talk. Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much for joining us tonight. Very cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to do a follow up video with

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<v Speaker 1>you in three to six months, see where you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are well. Actually, if you're talking weeks for hyper Mesh,

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, let's plan on something around the first part

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<v Speaker 1>of December, first first part to middle of December. Whenever

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01:21:22.760 --> 01:21:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys are ready, let's plan on that again. And

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<v Speaker 1>then and then something in Q one of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five as well. We'll get together and do something there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Because this is this is interesting stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a very what's the word I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a very viable protocol. Considering the hurricane

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's happened on the East Coast in the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months, Hurricane Helene, Hurricane Milton.

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<v Speaker 2>We have been delivering a lot of devices to North Carolina, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>and Okada, and we've been since end of September. We've

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<v Speaker 2>been really trying to prioritize those those customers because we

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<v Speaker 2>know they need them the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Good good. Yeah, I was wondering. I mentioned on one

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<v Speaker 1>of my videos where Hams were helping with the cleanup effort.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I had those guys on the channel two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, some of them, and I was like, is

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<v Speaker 1>anyone using mesh tastic out here? And a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>them were a couple of them. We're using some meshtastic

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01:22:26.119 --> 01:22:28.840
<v Speaker 1>to send messages back and forth. And because there's been

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<v Speaker 1>some This was two weeks ago, but at the time

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<v Speaker 1>there has been some areas of eastern Tennessee and North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina have been without power. And of course if you

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<v Speaker 1>were without power, you were without so phone for like

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01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:45.159
<v Speaker 1>almost two weeks. So you know, it's it's solar power

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01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and battery power and backup power and low power Laura devices,

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01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:53.119
<v Speaker 1>uh type stuff that's people are using to communicate. So

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<v Speaker 1>good good. I'm glad to hear that. I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to I would like to follow up more on that

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<v Speaker 1>later as well. So good. All right, Well, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>turn this h We're gonna shut this down. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>everyone for joining tonight again. The link to the Spec

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<v Speaker 1>five website is at the top of the chat. I

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<v Speaker 1>pin it up there at the beginning of the live stream.

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<v Speaker 1>I also put it in the description of the video

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you watching on Team Replay, go check

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<v Speaker 1>that out. I've got three of their devices, I think now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the Specter, the Beacon, and I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>couple well, I've got two or three of the Trekker cases,

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<v Speaker 1>which are very very well built. I meant to bring

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01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:37.640
<v Speaker 1>my Spectra out here and I forgot to grab it

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<v Speaker 1>off the It's it's in there charging right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do I'm gonna do a dedicated video about

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01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:47.039
<v Speaker 1>the Specter here in uh probably this week sometime, so

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01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys will see it on the channel upcoming. But

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, go go out there check out their devices.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna keep in contact with Daniel and Amir. Amir,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining the chat. I appreciate your all

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<v Speaker 1>your knowledge shared in the chat tonight, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep keeping talks with them over the next few months

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<v Speaker 1>and see how this hyper messure thing develops and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>So Daniel, thank you once again. I appreciate your time tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>You are welcome. This has been a blast. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, awesome seventy three guys. We will talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>guys this week. Watch the channels for premieres, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back on livestream this time next night, Sunday seventy

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<v Speaker 1>three to all y'all, have a good evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi,