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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up for everyone? I'm Matthew Wilkin, Breeder Syndicate.
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure how if everybody's going to figure
Speaker 3: out that there's another channel going live with us here?
Speaker 3: Let me see, because I think there's a way I
Speaker 3: can delete the other one.
Speaker 4: I absolutely this is the right one.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I'm going to the correct
Speaker 3: one before I delete one.
Speaker 4: Rumblest fucking win and with their features right now streams
Speaker 4: all at one time, Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, no, Rumble didn't even end up work connecting for
Speaker 3: this one, so like, oh really they just bombed out,
Speaker 3: bro Like.
Speaker 4: But then YouTube we're still going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're still going on a whole different channel. Let
Speaker 3: me see. I don't know how to even give them
Speaker 3: this channel link, Like, maybe they'll.
Speaker 4: Figure it out. I'm in the old live chat. Yeah,
Speaker 4: do you already tell them what's up?
Speaker 5: Yeah I did.
Speaker 3: I don't know the the why. It doesn't even look
Speaker 3: like it. Oh yeah, there we go, here we go
Speaker 3: now I get okay, I know which one is delete now,
Speaker 3: so it should Technically everybody's gonna be like, where did
Speaker 3: they go? And then hopefully they'll figure it out that
Speaker 3: we are in this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it wouldn't let me.
Speaker 3: Hard a perfect Friday. I don't even I guess they
Speaker 3: did get big earlier, but I haven't gotten baked again,
Speaker 3: so I'm glad I didn't Chuck Dizzle? What's up? Jack
Speaker 3: the Bodyless, Kyle Coates, Adam Gale, my girl Pinser, Matt Rba,
Speaker 3: what's up? Yeah? Can you rumble's been awful today, It's
Speaker 3: been horrible, horrible. Had it all set up and then
Speaker 3: it decided to make like seven different versions of the
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we are where we are what we are? So?
Speaker 3: Uh, Dan, we have you back? I asked you already,
Speaker 3: but you can go ahead and repeat.
Speaker 4: What's new? Oh yeah, yeah, I know, I remember now, I
Speaker 4: got a fucking highway. No, I got my tax return today,
Speaker 4: so I hit the hydro shop and got a bunch
Speaker 4: of soil and some cloning shit.
Speaker 3: And next night and you saw Lush.
Speaker 4: Yes, I went with Lush, went on a little hydro date.
Speaker 4: Hey hey.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Someone asked if rumble is preferred, Yeah, but this
Speaker 3: week it just kind of went to ship last second.
Speaker 3: So normally, normally it would be rumble. But I guess
Speaker 3: they're rolling the dice over here for no reason other
Speaker 3: than it would have taken me another twenty minutes to
Speaker 3: set Rumble up and try to get it to work again. Yeah.
Speaker 4: YouTube doesn't tend to like my episodes lately, the ones
Speaker 4: that get fucking cut right after we hear him.
Speaker 6: So, I know you're too pretty, You're too pretty?
Speaker 4: No, I just say offensive occasional.
Speaker 3: Do you think we never say anything too offensive?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know. Sometimes nice, but now it's chilling, bro.
Speaker 4: Almost done with school for the until through summer. Almost
Speaker 4: done with the flower crop. Dude, that uh the blue
Speaker 4: bonnet or the Louis blue bonnet. Yeah, it went really
Speaker 4: blueberry jam the last like nice, nice kind waved through
Speaker 4: flower Yeah, with the smells like I've seen the other
Speaker 4: bonnet stuff do. It tends to like change and then
Speaker 4: go back and change again. And so I was worried
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, because it was a little more like
Speaker 4: neutral berry for a little bit there, but yeah, it
Speaker 4: went like jam again. It's got a nice combo of
Speaker 4: the looks like blue og structure. Uh, but it's finishing faster.
Speaker 4: It's like forty seven days right now, and it looks
Speaker 4: like it's not really going to do much more. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's it's probably cut that when I get back from
Speaker 4: the whole beach trip. I'm doing this.
Speaker 3: Week like fucking seven to eight week o G plant granted.
Speaker 3: I mean, as long as it has the high O
Speaker 3: G too. You know that's a that's desire, you know,
Speaker 3: with the high of the blueberry and the og at
Speaker 3: the same time.
Speaker 4: Let's see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's point on. You know, yeah, there
Speaker 3: they are. Let me make computer.
Speaker 4: What's up, screwy?
Speaker 2: Just uh, I'm getting some space, some stuff transplanted, plants
Speaker 2: moved and you know, prepping them to flip the flower.
Speaker 2: I just got like seventies snips that I gotta root.
Speaker 3: The fun stuff fa tedious stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't that. I mean, you know it is huh
Speaker 4: do you how many do you have like a bunch
Speaker 4: of different moms like I do right now, Like different varieties.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, gets out of hands.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So but the thing is, I don't like grow mind
Speaker 2: big because I don't have a whole bunch of space,
Speaker 2: you know, So like I mean, do it all all
Speaker 2: transplant stuff into like a from a solo into a
Speaker 2: one gallon to get that good boost of like oh
Speaker 2: fuck yeah, take you know, cuts from that, and that's
Speaker 2: what I use to replace it. And you know, flower
Speaker 2: out if if I want to like throw some shit
Speaker 2: into flower.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just you're spoiling them compared to me. I've
Speaker 4: had these guys in three inchers for like, don't.
Speaker 2: Get me wrong, I have like, dude, my seed plants
Speaker 2: get beat the fuck up at first because I'm not
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not worried. I can't even sex them
Speaker 2: for you know, well unless you use the farmer freeman kits.
Speaker 2: You know, I gotta wait a while, you know to
Speaker 2: sex them anyway, So I just keep feeding them and
Speaker 2: let it do what it's gonna do.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Usually that pushes the males pretty tisshow pretty quickly, you know. Sometimes,
Speaker 2: But like take the last run, last big seed pop
Speaker 2: I did I got out of I got almost all
Speaker 2: males et Sept.
Speaker 4: Two. Yeah, that's happened to me a few times. Or
Speaker 4: they like the females just like aren't a strong for
Speaker 4: whatever reason and just kind of dampen off or die
Speaker 4: early on. You're just like, fuck, dude, I got like
Speaker 4: one or two females left, like that's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I went through like four or five packs
Speaker 2: and two fucking females out of all of that.
Speaker 4: Now, luckily the two females are pretty.
Speaker 3: Good, but it sucks.
Speaker 2: That's also why Matt, I told you to send me
Speaker 2: more of that lupas by Bonnet because that shit. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and if that was just in one fucking one individual,
Speaker 2: I definitely want to see more.
Speaker 4: I think Blue Geric too.
Speaker 3: I think I have some of the Bloopers headband across
Speaker 3: to the Blue and Cross too, which would be cool
Speaker 3: to run next to the Blooper's headband itself and see
Speaker 3: how much more influence that brings. But I think it would.
Speaker 3: I think it would take down the lankiness by a lot.
Speaker 3: But I just just made those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, dude, the fucking it like quadrupled in
Speaker 2: size and stretch like in at flip fucking did it
Speaker 2: set really good fucking buds like all the way up.
Speaker 4: Yeahty, pretty good. I mean I strip out the lowers
Speaker 4: just because shit got out of hand this time around.
Speaker 4: But those in the TK diesels like they shot up
Speaker 4: to above six foot.
Speaker 3: Oh I bet the TK Jesus would.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, I got just over six foot room.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 4: It's like they're practically touching the ceiling right now while
Speaker 4: they're finishing.
Speaker 3: That means you're doing it right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just over trying to let those early pearls catch up,
Speaker 4: and they still didn't and they got a little shaded out.
Speaker 4: So I gotta do another run with like short stuff
Speaker 4: like the dog walker the pearl Yeah, like some smaller
Speaker 4: og plants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a question. I don't know. We don't
Speaker 3: have the thing that pops up that we would usually
Speaker 3: have over on Rumble, so we can't just say they
Speaker 3: suck but random, But what happened to the always right
Speaker 3: cry baby? You know, I don't know. To be honest
Speaker 3: with you, I guess that's the best answer I can give.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened to him after he got
Speaker 3: the boot. He had a lot of amens to make
Speaker 3: with a lot of people, and hopefully he does, you know,
Speaker 3: smart kid, he was really good at backgrading on forums.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody doubts any of that stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what happened to him. Those we got
Speaker 3: if ordering kids? How do we give the nod to
Speaker 3: the channel. As far as the farmer Freeman, sex testing kits,
Speaker 3: viroid kits and stuff like that. We're going to have
Speaker 3: a coupon code soon, right screw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for watchers, it will viewers and listeners. It will
Speaker 2: be five percent, and if you are in the discord,
Speaker 2: there will be a special discord discount code.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, if you're dialed into the discord like
Speaker 3: you should be. And if you have trouble finding that,
Speaker 3: if you look in the upright corner, you can take
Speaker 3: your phone camera pointed at that. A little link will
Speaker 3: pop up.
Speaker 4: Click that.
Speaker 3: You'll figure it out. It's like magic. But yeah, how
Speaker 3: early can males be identified? I mean if you use
Speaker 3: a sex testing kit? He said, what seven days after
Speaker 3: popping the seed or the first true set of leaves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a week.
Speaker 2: It's pretty it's incredibly fast, which you know, if you're
Speaker 2: it's good for uh, if it fits the situation, it's
Speaker 2: pretty killer. You know, because I've used them before and
Speaker 2: been able to get through like much more than I
Speaker 2: probably should have popped at the time, you know, just
Speaker 2: by not having to hold on to as many plants
Speaker 2: until they're big enough to actually show sex, you know.
Speaker 4: Like flip too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what ended up happening in that like all
Speaker 2: male run because there were some that I was like, man,
Speaker 2: there's no fucking way that all of these are male,
Speaker 2: you know, the ones that like I was kind of questioning.
Speaker 2: I put them in, transplanted them and like flipped them
Speaker 2: anyways and had to cut them out. I cut like
Speaker 2: six of them out.
Speaker 3: Is there a new resident perfumologist? No, but I can
Speaker 3: tell you what my balls were, Like, this is a
Speaker 3: this is a question I've gotten a lot over the years,
Speaker 3: And yeah, what is platinum mean? Like back in the day,
Speaker 3: it was just something that like different collectives wanted to
Speaker 3: like they were a lot of them were buying you know,
Speaker 3: O G from the same person. They're just you know,
Speaker 3: put a few pounds here, put a few pounds there.
Speaker 3: Whatever they wanted theirs to outsell the other collectives, and
Speaker 3: you put platinum on front of it. I am it's platinum. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's really all.
Speaker 4: It means platinum cookies, platinum anything I've ever seen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's usually.
Speaker 3: The platinum banana og same thing, Like that was the
Speaker 3: idea behind using that name. We made it better than
Speaker 3: the the regular banana og cut, so I felt like
Speaker 3: I would go platinum with it, because hey, everybody's going.
Speaker 4: Platinum platinum hair platinums.
Speaker 3: Platinums, that's right, platinum platinums.
Speaker 4: That's funt.
Speaker 3: Some more old dying breed gear again, if there's any
Speaker 3: of your dying to run, well, Dan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we had talked about that was the
Speaker 4: a one We've talked about it before.
Speaker 3: I think, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea
Speaker 3: yea yea yeah, the weird one.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: With this, is it sweet two three or something in it?
Speaker 4: I want to run those Blockhead b X twos if
Speaker 4: you still got them too, Blockhead b X two's. I
Speaker 4: think it was something Shabbud sent down, right.
Speaker 3: Oh he did, yes, yes, yes he did. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've been looking at pictures and I re listened to
Speaker 4: his interviews and I like, I don't know why, Like
Speaker 4: it doesn't sound like it was like the most amazing
Speaker 4: thing ever either, but like it's interest.
Speaker 3: It's interesting like there's a whole lot interesting about Project
Speaker 3: nineteen and it was like there's this dude named Seuss
Speaker 3: from I want to say Oregon, and there is a
Speaker 3: good claim to him having made what Soma later used
Speaker 3: as lavender, and maybe it's what's in Erkele possibly this
Speaker 3: Project nineteen and then yeah, and I think the Blockhead
Speaker 3: if I remember, had an African it as well.
Speaker 4: Oh really yeah, yeah, that's one I keep running into,
Speaker 4: is a well with H and L's Nigerian. Yeah, stuff
Speaker 4: with that and it it keeps popping up in my life,
Speaker 4: and it's that one's also caught my interest, but sounds
Speaker 4: like that one's long gone except for in hybrids.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Night the Nigerian Silk, I think it was called. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there was some magic that came out of that ship.
Speaker 4: So I've tried some like down the Road stuff from it.
Speaker 4: It still pops out and it still makes killer weed,
Speaker 4: and it seems I've.
Speaker 3: Never tried it in it, never tried it ever smoked.
Speaker 3: It sounds like I need some in my life.
Speaker 7: See oh yeah, sorry, is there a good current Kim
Speaker 7: for work from anyone other than Sha or Caleb?
Speaker 3: Only weed that's ever maybe so high cute. I love
Speaker 3: I love Kim four as far as current people, I
Speaker 3: don't think so, I really don't. I'm sorry if I
Speaker 3: forget anyone other than Shaw Shaw obviously cs I Humbolt.
Speaker 4: I don't know why you'd want to get it from
Speaker 4: someone other than Shaw. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: It was what was weird. The weirdest part about Kim
Speaker 3: four was all the chems. No matter what cut it was,
Speaker 3: had fakes floating around except for for like, it was
Speaker 3: pretty reliably easy to go to any collective in California,
Speaker 3: pick up Camp four, flower it, and have it reliably
Speaker 3: be Camp four. It was one of these weird exceptions
Speaker 3: to the Kim dog role, whereas like ninety one, all
Speaker 3: the way up until a decade ago, a bunch of
Speaker 3: Bridges were still working with the fake kem anyone that
Speaker 3: they were anyone?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, that's right. Mister Iomi has a ton
Speaker 3: of blockhead seeds. See he's he's a Spicy Life fan
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really coming out didn't make it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see, dude, they got some Nigerian silk at
Speaker 3: wine wood. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I love candy yeah, that's the blockhead one. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's my favorite Kim? My favorite Kim is in the
Speaker 3: chem it's Diesel and there's no Kim in it. But
Speaker 3: other than that, four, I like four a lot.
Speaker 4: Dude. That story is still just fucking befuddles me. All
Speaker 4: that shit and how it ties together. I've been like
Speaker 4: trying to understand for years too, and I'm just like,
Speaker 4: all the different sources, all the different versions, like it
Speaker 4: just does not add took cohesive anything to me.
Speaker 3: No, no, And and like there was a lot of
Speaker 3: logic we were trying to use, Like I swear to God,
Speaker 3: me and CSI's first conversations for the first like three
Speaker 3: years were nothing but trying to break down the story,
Speaker 3: trying to find holes in each other's logic, you know,
Speaker 3: like especially with diesel, because it's always been quoted as
Speaker 3: being mass super skunk cross to a herm kim D
Speaker 3: And on the face of it, you'd be like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: ken D hainson nuts sometimes, but one thing it doesn't
Speaker 3: do is blow up rooms with seeds. Even if it herms, yes,
Speaker 3: but mass super skunk reliably through.
Speaker 4: Herms all the time.
Speaker 3: Diesel Diesel will fucking herm too, and we'll pollinate ship.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and you know, after running through the s ones,
Speaker 3: a shitload of the s ones, and I've made diesel
Speaker 3: s ones three different times now and ran through a
Speaker 3: bunch of them each time, and never once did I
Speaker 3: find anything close enough to where I'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is the D expression. It just never was coming through,
Speaker 3: And it always seemed like it had a part of
Speaker 3: what D is, but not the not how D breeds,
Speaker 3: because we know how D breeds pretty well and that
Speaker 3: and that there's a very specific uh scent note that
Speaker 3: passes through the D. It was in Kim's sister, It's
Speaker 3: in like ninety Kim ninety one out crosses stuff like that,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't popping out of this.
Speaker 4: Mass super skunk over here, gotcha.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think they're just uh really ladd via
Speaker 3: super skunk, but maybe not the same super skunk. Oh no. Yeah.
Speaker 4: That's the thing is like I see a lot of
Speaker 4: common threads between like a lot of the camp like
Speaker 4: basically everything with the fuel type aromas. Yeah, Like why
Speaker 4: do I feel like I don't think you are they're
Speaker 4: directly related, but I think they share common ancestry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what I think Afghani's Like my dad would say, well,
Speaker 3: the Afghani's they just smelled skunky.
Speaker 4: It didn't sell. The ones I've ever had were fruity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had fruity Afghan.
Speaker 4: But there was always fruit with the fuel I had.
Speaker 3: I had some stuff sent back by a guy named
Speaker 3: Fried from Herat Afghanistan. He was working over there. He
Speaker 3: wasn't in the military, but he was a civilian that
Speaker 3: worked as a contractor over there, and he sent them
Speaker 3: back and it's it tasted identical to afk and smelled
Speaker 3: identical to is, like melanie blue melany mm hmm, and
Speaker 3: uh yeah. All the old Afghanis that I've tried were
Speaker 3: usually acrid, not really anything too pleasant. But then you
Speaker 3: get things like chatrawl from Pakistani which is or Pakistan
Speaker 3: which isn't too far away, and you can have black
Speaker 3: berry and all kinds of fruits in there.
Speaker 4: I want to run through those sometimes though. Some fun
Speaker 4: I think I used to have like a bunch of
Speaker 4: CSI threebes of it and like stuffed up like thirty
Speaker 4: or forty seeds, and I can't find them. I don't
Speaker 4: know what happened to him.
Speaker 3: That sucks. Yeah, yeah, you made tons.
Speaker 4: They'd be old by this point. They'd be like eight
Speaker 4: or nine years old by now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see what we got here.
Speaker 4: A little bit though, what type of I've never actually
Speaker 4: had or like just pure Kim ninety one. What type
Speaker 4: of smells do you get off.
Speaker 3: That Kim ninety one burnt tennis ball rubber for me?
Speaker 3: But then there's like I talked about with Death Star,
Speaker 3: it's not worse radish, but there's a spice scent in
Speaker 3: the very back. I only would get kind of on
Speaker 3: shittier grows. But when I got to try the Resurrection,
Speaker 3: uh Matt's matt Elite's version of it, I smelled it
Speaker 3: in there, but it was turned up and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, that really is in Kim ninety one. It's
Speaker 3: way in the fact for me mostly, and this is
Speaker 3: vegue as fuck, But burn tennis ball that's the best
Speaker 3: best description I got for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually I ran it, uh like two harvests ago
Speaker 2: that n D and yeah, it's I think tennis ball
Speaker 2: is a really good description for like what I what
Speaker 2: I get out of it too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's like a you know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's like a like a bit of
Speaker 2: like a earthy type of like component thing going on
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 2: I definitely see why, Like it's weird growing it and
Speaker 2: like smoking the flower and then you know, thinking like shit,
Speaker 2: someone fuck popped this in nineteen ninety one, you know,
Speaker 2: likes of its misery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Well, if I had that when I was seventeen, I
Speaker 2: would have taken over this city.
Speaker 3: You know, you just have to think too, Like when
Speaker 3: you pop something from seed, it's usually more amp It
Speaker 3: tends to be more amplified during the first one or
Speaker 3: two runs, but by run three, you know, things start
Speaker 3: to kind of settle in. You don't have all the
Speaker 3: hormones that you had at the very beginning. And I
Speaker 3: would imagine that like dog Bud when they got it,
Speaker 3: his dog Budd, and they popped the first few seeds,
Speaker 3: and if it smelled anything like that resurrection from Matt,
Speaker 3: that's when I was first like, okay, I get why
Speaker 3: they kept it. Now, if it smelled anything like this
Speaker 3: makes sense, that would kill shit. That would that would
Speaker 3: kill shit everywhere, because it's pretty pretty awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like them.
Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me wrong, I like the ninety one.
Speaker 2: I just I really like the D Like that's the
Speaker 2: that's the one that I would.
Speaker 4: Prefer to smoke for sure.
Speaker 2: Uh so too, Like it's just got it's got so
Speaker 2: much going on in the in the smell and the
Speaker 2: high is like fucking stupefying, and I really dig it.
Speaker 4: I've never had any of the like, uh, what are
Speaker 4: the other ones? One through three? I've only had D
Speaker 4: and four and hybrids of ninety one. But I finally
Speaker 4: got my hands on it, so on the one yet, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I haven't grown it yet. So I haven't. We haven't.
Speaker 4: We don't know if it's legit yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Out of circle, out of circle, yeah, on around.
Speaker 3: It ended up getting around pretty well. I got it
Speaker 3: right before, like I've got it and felt thought I
Speaker 3: thought it was all special, and then like I don't know,
Speaker 3: a month later, everybody had it and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's different. It's different. I think that it's very important
Speaker 3: for everyone, like to understand the whole story, for everyone
Speaker 3: to have at least try Diesel Cam ninety one, D
Speaker 3: and four. But the one throws, it throws that curve
Speaker 3: balls off off so hard that it's like really like
Speaker 3: really is it really directly related to four and then
Speaker 3: you can you kind of like you can you can
Speaker 3: see it, but I just don't know, Like, I don't
Speaker 3: is it in all five pays? Is it? What?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: What crossed to? Whatever wasn't in D and the others too,
Speaker 3: one through four. I don't know it was. You know,
Speaker 3: it's all supposed to be from the same bag seed
Speaker 3: and Greg send it back to Joe Brand.
Speaker 4: Even just from the Yeah, the forest stands out like
Speaker 4: a sore thumb to me, I'm just like, what the
Speaker 4: fuck is this? Especially the way it breeds, because it
Speaker 4: makes just like forever flowering weed, big like yeah, big
Speaker 4: long spears of forever flower and it's like, okay, like
Speaker 4: this doesn't remind me of D at all. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: well yeah, and the way ninety one breeds, it's like, uh,
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's kind of a bully and so
Speaker 4: like I've grown what was it? Like it's pure og
Speaker 4: Cabb's cut. I don't know where every one came from,
Speaker 4: but times of ninety one it was like really potent,
Speaker 4: really tasty weed, but like the structure seemed very specific
Speaker 4: and dominant, you know what I mean. It was like
Speaker 4: it even overpowered the og structure, which is like the
Speaker 4: main thing always.
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone's asking about the three. There is there's a
Speaker 3: lot of debate. I'll just leave it at that. But
Speaker 3: like there's been like talks at our parties with a
Speaker 3: few of us involved with all the early cams and
Speaker 3: grew them out and kind of know where they went
Speaker 3: and where they didn't go, and when fake ones popped
Speaker 3: up and when they didn't and where the source was.
Speaker 3: And a bunch of us agree that the three is
Speaker 3: probably no longer alive. But then there's people who have
Speaker 3: used it and say it's still alive. So the person
Speaker 3: I trust because CSI sourced everything directly from Joe Brandt
Speaker 3: and had the three, and he's the one who has
Speaker 3: the pictures up in the chim win a one thread
Speaker 3: of the very first pictures up of one through four,
Speaker 3: and relying on those, it doesn't look related to the
Speaker 3: original three. As it went around tell effort, we said,
Speaker 3: what's up. Yeah, we do have discord Q and A
Speaker 3: questions too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was one in there that cut my eyes.
Speaker 3: I actually went and like rearranged stuff, so it isn't
Speaker 3: it's hard to find anymore. Hopefully that helps people I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh no, it helped me.
Speaker 3: Let's see, is it is there currently any music out
Speaker 3: there that that's it's new? The interests you at all?
Speaker 3: Who influenced you the most when you were in advanced
Speaker 3: back back in the day? Oh uh idols is good?
Speaker 3: Like they're not quite punk rock that there, they would
Speaker 3: be be kind of punk Rockey fucking five your Boys
Speaker 3: one of my favorite newer bands. Fu Stu's still playing shows,
Speaker 3: one of my favorite bands. And uh huh uh uh,
Speaker 3: I don't know. There's a lot of old punk rock,
Speaker 3: so it's hard to say it's a band called gold. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Those are all fairly new bands and the most when
Speaker 3: I was advance back in the day.
Speaker 4: Uh, darky trash of course.
Speaker 2: Hey Matt, Matt, you're clipping. Your audio is clipping?
Speaker 3: Click click, click clipping.
Speaker 4: How long I was to figure out if that was
Speaker 4: me or yeah? Same here?
Speaker 2: I put it in private chat, like, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: is this just me?
Speaker 4: Or is this Matt?
Speaker 3: Okay, you guys, go ahead and keep going. It might
Speaker 3: be my connection.
Speaker 4: You sound good now, Okay, yeah? Something?
Speaker 3: What the hell? Mike's yeah, I don't know, there's the
Speaker 3: I was talking about new, newer bands, Gold Leisure Life,
Speaker 3: the Contaminators, the Neon Nazis, which is a take, you know,
Speaker 3: a funny joke on Neo Nazis, but Neon Nazis, Uh,
Speaker 3: Team Generate. There's lots of great bands out there, and
Speaker 3: I don't know Darby Crash, there you go, I'll influence
Speaker 3: me the most in the punk rock scene. He just
Speaker 3: didn't give a funk about anything and it was quite
Speaker 3: brilliant and checked out early. The same with Ian Curtis.
Speaker 3: I think that'd be that. That's it for that one though.
Speaker 3: Don't think make you care to hear punk rock. Oh
Speaker 3: here's Blackie that my power is it clipping again?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So it's when I go to discord to go to
Speaker 3: the Q and a chat.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Here, I'll ask you the questions.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what it is.
Speaker 4: Okay, cool.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that we got that figured out because it's
Speaker 2: like every time you go to start talking, it just like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So from Blackie six five to nine, my power has
Speaker 2: been going down once every other month. Will this affect
Speaker 2: the seeds in the mini fridge? Power's back within three
Speaker 2: to four hours. I've been pulling them out of the
Speaker 2: fridge when the power goes out, should I leave them
Speaker 2: in there instead?
Speaker 3: I'm very anti mini fridge because there's so many problems
Speaker 3: with them, and they can even get hot and they
Speaker 3: can kill your whole seed collection real fast, or if
Speaker 3: they frost up and then quickly defrost, you better hope
Speaker 3: that they're in like you know, triple fick freezer bags.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot that can go wrong with mini fridges.
Speaker 3: I try to stay away from them for seeds for
Speaker 3: that reason, just because I've run into that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not very strong refrigeration units and so yeah,
Speaker 4: they're gone to issues. They're not really meant to last
Speaker 4: unless you buy like a really nice one like a
Speaker 4: wine cooler or something like that. You're one hundred percent
Speaker 4: spot on with the defrost because they do ice over
Speaker 4: really bad, and so like you can just have like
Speaker 4: crazy humidity combined with heat in there for periods of
Speaker 4: time when it's defrosting. And so I would go for
Speaker 4: something that's like exclusively a refrigerator for one and not
Speaker 4: having mixed applications in the same chamber. And I would
Speaker 4: if the power's going out and you have a solid fridge,
Speaker 4: I would say leave them in because at that point,
Speaker 4: there shouldn't be a ton of moisture in the refrigeration box,
Speaker 4: and uh, it's going to hold temperature for quite a
Speaker 4: while unless it's in like a garage where it's super
Speaker 4: hot outside, and so you'd be surprised how long it'll
Speaker 4: keep temp if you don't open the door at all.
Speaker 4: And so I personally don't like thawing my seeds or like,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, pulling them in and out.
Speaker 4: I think that's part of the reason I've been having
Speaker 4: some issues with some stuff that's like stored well and
Speaker 4: not that old you know what I mean, It's got
Speaker 4: it's just not adding up, and it's like, well I
Speaker 4: was kept pee keeping a million different packs and big
Speaker 4: gallon bags in the fridge and pulling the whole gallon
Speaker 4: bag out to look through stuff and pick through stuff.
Speaker 4: And then all of them are going in and out constantly. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't think that's good for them. I think they
Speaker 4: want to be at temp and just held there for
Speaker 4: as long as possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fluctuations are are are they don't get super
Speaker 3: happy with that. Yeah, it's the next one screw.
Speaker 4: But it's a fucking battle, bro. That's why I like
Speaker 4: once I have like a little more, once I can
Speaker 4: get a bigger power drop, Like I want to get
Speaker 4: a fucking big deep freeze and just like shit that's
Speaker 4: going in there is just staying in there, and like
Speaker 4: keep stuff in the fridge that I just know I'm
Speaker 4: gonna use in the next year or two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good call.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nitched. Oh sorry, okay from d G.
Speaker 2: When are we getting a Hayes series?
Speaker 3: So I've done Hayes, I've attempted to construct a Hayes
Speaker 3: series before. However, Yeah, it needs to be redone. It
Speaker 3: needs to be redone correctly. There's a lot more that
Speaker 3: could have been added that wasn't and there was a
Speaker 3: lot of things said that wasn't quite accurate.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think you should have Lucian hnl on
Speaker 4: for that one killer combo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be great, you know. And yeah, there's there's
Speaker 3: there's good things to come, like things like that need
Speaker 3: to be redone. Definitely. I think that even the the
Speaker 3: Breeding series maybe I don't remember if that if that
Speaker 3: one needs to be redone. I've been going through and
Speaker 3: downloading like our whole catalog as quickly as possible because
Speaker 3: of everything going on. With YouTube. So I've been going
Speaker 3: back and trying to find what was there, what wasn't
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's given me some new ideas. But if,
Speaker 3: like if if I do HAZE, I want to do
Speaker 3: it right and I want to do it very well.
Speaker 3: I want to include the poster. I want to include
Speaker 3: like the soil recipe.
Speaker 4: That they gave with the Hayes.
Speaker 3: All that should be in that kind of episode.
Speaker 4: And uh, yeah it would take.
Speaker 3: A lot of prepping. But and Lubin but h and
Speaker 3: l and Lush and there's a few other guys kill
Speaker 3: a little on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah I'm not I'm not worthy for having on for
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really not worthy for them most.
Speaker 4: But like, fuck dude, it's such a such a mess
Speaker 4: of information again, just like the cams and who got
Speaker 4: what at what time and like what do they make
Speaker 4: with it? And like it's just what a fucking mass
Speaker 4: even just to get to like a five and c
Speaker 4: five yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yeah and then permissions fake permissions and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's all a cluster fuck and it's actually a five
Speaker 3: to two. And that's something a lot of people forget too.
Speaker 3: It's like there's not it's not even if I wanted, say,
Speaker 3: five tunes over here. They just kind of dropped dropped
Speaker 3: the the number off. But I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: because one's dead now or just never made it over here.
Speaker 3: I don't know, because Europeans sold on the stuff tight.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: This one is from woodgrain grippa. Have you or anyone
Speaker 2: you know rooted a clone that is still attached to
Speaker 2: the mother plant? I remember reading something about it in
Speaker 2: Marijuana botany. Do you think it is an efficient way
Speaker 2: to clone?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And isn't efficient way to clone? I mean sometimes
Speaker 3: in many cases it can be easier than trying to
Speaker 3: go the normal route doing having a brain fart in
Speaker 3: what it's actually called? But do you remember what it's called?
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 4: Air layering?
Speaker 3: Air layering?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean they even make little plastic balls for air
Speaker 3: layering now too, where you can you know, spag in
Speaker 3: the moss or a bunch of peat and you wrap
Speaker 3: it around, you kind of splice the branch just a
Speaker 3: little bit for some uh you know, grow roots out
Speaker 3: and then you cover it up. It stays a little
Speaker 3: bit moist in there and drops roots. Possible to do
Speaker 3: it takes a long time, though every time I've tried
Speaker 3: doing it takes fucking forever or it doesn't work and
Speaker 3: I suck at it, you know. But yeah, yeah, some
Speaker 3: points it rooting nor rely, so yeah exactly. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: it's the last of the last of the last you got,
Speaker 3: then maybe that's the best way to go about it.
Speaker 3: You know. There you go.
Speaker 8: Yeah, air layering, Yeah it's cool, but like it's just
Speaker 8: an extra step to me, Like, yeah, even if you're
Speaker 8: doing it on like a fruit tree or something, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 8: I guess if you were doing it on like your
Speaker 8: rootstock tree, then like.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's cool because it's passive. But yeah, like yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just I don't I don't get it. I'm still
Speaker 4: I just go old. Every time I deviate from grodan
Speaker 4: on a pearl lite bed, I don't get good results.
Speaker 3: Anyone tried electroculture.
Speaker 4: M hm oh with like the copper spindles and ship
Speaker 4: on the sticks.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, is that what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've gone down a rabbit hole with it a
Speaker 4: few times, and like, I like playing with copper and
Speaker 4: so I kind of want to try it.
Speaker 3: I tried it for one run outdoors and it was
Speaker 3: absolutely no difference. In any of it, and it was
Speaker 3: it was using uh blue in cross round two, so
Speaker 3: it was too deep into the in cross and it
Speaker 3: was all really they were all super fucking uniform. It
Speaker 3: was a perfect plant to do it with. And just yeah,
Speaker 3: there was no unless maybe I don't have the wizardry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta be more mystical, Doug.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm not a copper guy, So maybe that's
Speaker 3: what it is. Maybe it works, you know, maybe I
Speaker 3: wasn't didn't have it like I wrapped around it tight
Speaker 3: enough or you know, I didn't really touch the edges
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 4: I think that like, if I did it, I would
Speaker 4: use like legit like eight foot ground yeah, eight foot
Speaker 4: grounding rods that you get for like grounding a house,
Speaker 4: and like I'd be like jamming that ship into the
Speaker 4: earth and using like the thickest copper I could, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I feel like some of the
Speaker 4: things I've seen on YouTube, I'm like, well, maybe that
Speaker 4: would work if you had like bigger conductors or like
Speaker 4: more surface area or something, or like weren't just like
Speaker 4: popping a little piece of copper in the ground, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's kind of how it works, kind of not you know,
Speaker 4: like I haven't dug into it enough though to know
Speaker 4: either way, but it sounded cool.
Speaker 3: I used Bonzie copper, like Bonzi wire copper.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, to like train it the shape and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just wrapped it around like a coil, slowly
Speaker 3: getting bigger and kind of propping up the leaves. But yeah, nothing.
Speaker 4: You remember when anything special. You remember when the dude
Speaker 4: from Gage screen was like talking about the fucking crystals
Speaker 4: in the pot but using like little pieces of quartz
Speaker 4: or something, and He's like, yeah, the roots grow like
Speaker 4: all around it and it's like super dense, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they did put a fucking other rock in there. It'll
Speaker 4: probably do the same thing.
Speaker 3: He used to sell Willard's water too, and like drink it.
Speaker 3: How Willard's water is, but it's like mud.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll pass mud.
Speaker 3: Water and he would sell it and drink it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's growth committed. I like playing with copper as well.
Speaker 9: My man, that fool with strips copper.
Speaker 4: Well, we have huge fucking bins of scrap copper from it,
Speaker 4: like students working on ship, and every time I look
Speaker 4: at it, I'm just like, look at all that fucking
Speaker 4: liquor money right there. Boys, it's like a couple hundred
Speaker 4: bucks where the scrap copper at least, you know, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised it's pushing the grand. It's a huge
Speaker 4: fucking crate, like a palette of scrap copper. And so
Speaker 4: Mom was just like, damn, I'm surprised nobody's stolen this.
Speaker 3: It just sound checks it.
Speaker 4: H vacship. There's so much copper, so much fun, Like
Speaker 4: it's a crackheads dream.
Speaker 3: So that's that's the logical next step. When we're all
Speaker 3: broke from you know that we were all completely dying,
Speaker 3: we get into HVAC make that extra dime.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, h Racy's good, bunny. Yeah, it's the only
Speaker 4: thing I've ever really learned about because that like I
Speaker 4: went from indoor stuff to like mostly outdoor and so yeah,
Speaker 4: it was more like tractors and electrical. But Harold on
Speaker 4: a second.
Speaker 3: He just disappeared into a forest.
Speaker 4: That was Wow. My kids trying to come fucking hang
Speaker 4: out was like, it's well enough yet to hang out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure he can tell some tales.
Speaker 4: Though, dude. Kids, Yeah, nobody tells you how much little
Speaker 4: boys are fucking goblins. Dude, it was straight up a
Speaker 4: little yeah screech. They fucking run around all crazy. They're
Speaker 4: jumping off of ship, like dad, watch me fucking flinging
Speaker 4: themselves off the couch. You're just like kid too, Huh?
Speaker 3: Were you that kind of kid too?
Speaker 4: I feel like I remember being like pretty quiet, but
Speaker 4: then like also crazy. He's all crazy, brozy. He's very
Speaker 4: upset that I closed the door, and like, uh, we're
Speaker 4: having another one in the fall, and so I'm just like, fuck,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be another boy, and uh, we're gonna be
Speaker 4: just like it's gonna be equal numbers against us.
Speaker 3: Now yeah yeah, raising an army though, yeah, bro yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a retirement plan. Don't forget it. That's what we're
Speaker 3: there for. I'm convinced.
Speaker 4: Can you hear the squeals? No?
Speaker 3: Good, No, no, I can't hear it come through?
Speaker 4: Oh good, they finally got this like audio, like the
Speaker 4: background noise ship down?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh you think you're having twins? Chuck?
Speaker 4: Oh, good lord, it's huge nine weeks.
Speaker 6: Good lord. Can you imagine two at once for a
Speaker 6: first kid? It's pretty abnormal. Oh and please dude, calm down. Sorry,
Speaker 6: reaches under the door and ship like a fucking scary movie.
Speaker 4: Dude. Yeah, there's no such thing as privacy when you
Speaker 4: have kids eating.
Speaker 3: That's what makes it funny though, Dude.
Speaker 4: It is, I guess, but like fuck, it gets old sometimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I enjoy everybody else's kids, man, like my friend's
Speaker 3: kids hanging out with them. It's funny. Yeah. And I
Speaker 3: can tell their children horrible stories about their parents, so
Speaker 3: they got up knowing that, you know. Yeah, and my
Speaker 3: friends can attest that I actually do do do these
Speaker 3: things help arm the children with the stuff to throw
Speaker 3: at their parents.
Speaker 4: I might have to deal with this for a second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't if you need to, dude. We're about
Speaker 3: forty five minutes in. We're doing good. And actually, if
Speaker 3: anybody wants to, we could do a quick switchover after
Speaker 3: we talk about armor freeman stuff. Then we can do
Speaker 3: a quick switch over to discord if that's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 3: would you guys think and that way you can like
Speaker 3: do do what you need to do. Dan, I feel you.
Speaker 3: I feel for you.
Speaker 4: My wife's trying to handle it.
Speaker 3: But oh.
Speaker 4: Strong they hit three aggressive. Oh dude, I'm dealing with
Speaker 4: that too.
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