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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometime in the next ten years, the most expensive machine

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<v Speaker 2>ever built by humanity is going to be deliberately pushed

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<v Speaker 2>out of the sky.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is wild to think about, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I want you to just picture the sheer

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<v Speaker 2>scale of this event. We are talking about a four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred ton titanium and aluminum behemoth.

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<v Speaker 3>Roughly the size of a football field.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly a football field, that has been flying two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty miles above our heads for over two.

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<v Speaker 3>Decades, traveling at you know, seventeen five hundred miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is just insane. And it's going to fire

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<v Speaker 2>its thrusters one last time, altering its trajectory so it

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<v Speaker 2>just it slams right into the Earth's atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 3>And most of it will vaporize into plasma on the

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<v Speaker 3>way down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a meteor shower of our own making.

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<v Speaker 2>And whatever actually survives that apocalyptic re entry is going

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<v Speaker 2>to crash into a remote stretch of the Pacific Ocean. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, point Nemo, the spacecraft graveyard.

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<v Speaker 2>Point Nemo. Right, And that is exactly how the International

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<v Speaker 2>Space Station ends. But the thing we really need to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on today, the real story here is what replaces.

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<v Speaker 3>It, because it's not going to be what most people think.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not what takes over That orbital real estate

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<v Speaker 2>won't be built by NASA or the European Space Agency

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<v Speaker 2>or ross Cosmos.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be private industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, our mission is to explore this profound transformation happening

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<v Speaker 2>right above our heads. We are stepping into the dawn

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<v Speaker 2>of the commercial orbital economy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a complete regime change, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, if you aren't an aerospace engineer or like

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<v Speaker 2>a billionaire, the idea of bus this is operating in

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<v Speaker 2>space probably feels totally disconnected from your daily life.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like pure science fiction, honestly, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a movie. Yeah, But I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to imagine a reality where low Earth orbit operates like

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<v Speaker 2>a high tech industrial park.

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<v Speaker 3>With actual storefronts and manufacturing plants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a place where entirely new classes of life saving

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<v Speaker 2>medicines are made, where materials we can't make on Earth

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<v Speaker 2>are manufactured, and where people just you know, go for vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>And this matters to you because this is the foundational

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<v Speaker 3>layer of a much larger off world economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, the materials in tech that come down from those

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<v Speaker 2>orbital factories are going to embed themselves in our global

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<v Speaker 2>supply chains. It's going to fundamentally alter Earth's markets.

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<v Speaker 3>But to really grasp how this commercial orbital economy is

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<v Speaker 3>going to work, we have to look backward for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. How did we get here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we have to diagnose why it took so incredibly

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<v Speaker 3>long to happen. I mean, why was space entirely closed

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<v Speaker 3>off to private enterprise for the entire twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 2>Why were there no space startups in the eighties?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly? And it basically comes down to a very unforgiving concept,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the economics of gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's unpack the physics of that a bit, because the

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<v Speaker 2>sheer amount of energy required to fight Earth's gravity, well

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<v Speaker 2>is it's hard to wrap your head around.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just about going up right, that's the common misconception.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, going up is the easy part. It's about going sideways.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you have to go sideways so incredibly fast that

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<v Speaker 3>as you fall back toward Earth, you just keep missing it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's orbit in a nutshell, falling and missing the ground exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And to achieve low Earth orbit, your vehicle has to

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<v Speaker 3>accelerate to roughly seventeen thousand, five hundred miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is mind boggling speed it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And achieving that velocity means your vehicle has to be

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<v Speaker 3>essentially ninety percent highly explosive propellant by mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically a giant bomb that you're carefully directing out the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very accurate description. The engineering tolerances required to

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<v Speaker 3>maintain that kind of controlled explosion are incredibly narrow.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't have a bad day at the office when

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<v Speaker 2>you're building a rocket engine.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you really can't. And historically the only reason anyone

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<v Speaker 3>bothered to develop that crazy capability was the Cold War.

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<v Speaker 2>The military industrial complex.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, the entire foundation of spaceflight wasn't born out of

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<v Speaker 3>some altruistic scientific curiosity or desire to build a free

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't about exploring the stars for the good of humanity,

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<v Speaker 2>not at its core.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was born out of a desperate existential military competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Because developing a rocket capable of putting a satellite in

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<v Speaker 2>orbit is mathematically identical to something much darker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is mechanically and mathematically identical to developing an

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<v Speaker 3>intercontinental ballistic missile capable of delivering a nuclear warhead across

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<v Speaker 3>the globe.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So when the goal is to prove to a

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<v Speaker 2>rival superpower that you own the technological high ground, you

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<v Speaker 2>really do not care about your profit margin.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't care about cost efficiency at all. Just throw

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<v Speaker 3>billions and billions of dollars at the problem until it works.

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<v Speaker 2>The economics of a sustainable business just completely did not

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<v Speaker 2>factor into the blueprints.

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<v Speaker 3>Not even a little bit, and that created a paradigm

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<v Speaker 3>where getting a single kilogram of payload into orbit costs

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<v Speaker 3>tens of thousands of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Which completely prices out normal businesses totally.

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<v Speaker 3>At those prices, the only viable cargo is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a multimillion dollar spice satellite or a massive government science experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't build a business when your shipping cost exceed

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<v Speaker 2>the value of your actual product by a factor of

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<v Speaker 3>It's economically impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that makes total sense. And that absurdly expensive paradigm

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<v Speaker 2>lasted for decades. But then the physical architecture of the

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<v Speaker 2>rockets actually changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and this is the catalyst for everything happening now.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to use an analogy here because it highlights

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<v Speaker 2>just how broken that old system was.

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<v Speaker 3>JILLBD.

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<v Speaker 2>For the first fifty years of spaceflight, going to orbit

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<v Speaker 2>was like building a state of the art, multimillion dollar

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<v Speaker 2>luxury cruise ship, loading it up with a few passengers

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<v Speaker 2>and a tiny bit of cargo, taking one single voyage

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<v Speaker 2>across the ocean, and then literally just deliberately sinking the

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<v Speaker 2>entire ship at the end of the trip.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds insane when you say it like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, right, if you wanted to go back across the ocean,

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<v Speaker 2>you had to build a brand new, multimillion dollar ship

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<v Speaker 2>from scratch.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously nobody would ever buy a ticket for a

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<v Speaker 3>terrestrial transportation system that operated that way.

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<v Speaker 2>The ticket price would have to cover the entire construction

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<v Speaker 2>cost of the vehicle exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But that is literally what we did with rockets for

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<v Speaker 3>half a century. We threw them in the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so wasteful.

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<v Speaker 3>But the catalyst that changed everything over the last decade

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<v Speaker 3>was the development of reusable rocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Systems, where companies finally figured out how to land the

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<v Speaker 2>first stage of the rocket back on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the biggest, most expensive part of the rocket, the

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<v Speaker 3>part with the main engines. They land it, refurbish it,

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<v Speaker 3>and fly it again.

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<v Speaker 2>They took the disposable cruise ship and turned it into

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<v Speaker 2>a ferry system.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the perfect way look at it. You build the

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<v Speaker 3>ferry once and you just run it back and forth,

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<v Speaker 3>paying primarily for the fuel and the maintenance.

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<v Speaker 2>And fuel is actually relatively cheap compared to the rocket itself, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Very cheap. The economic impact of reusability just cannot be

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<v Speaker 3>overstated here. It caused launch costs to absolutely freefall.

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<v Speaker 2>We're seeing prices drop by orders of magnitude.

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<v Speaker 3>Far beyond what legacy aerospace engineers believed was physically or

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<v Speaker 2>They thought it couldn't be done. But the private sector

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<v Speaker 2>didn't stop at merely building cheaper delivery trucks, did they.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they didn't. The true turning point where you are

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<v Speaker 3>experiencing right now is that private aerospace companies are increasingly

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<v Speaker 3>capable of engineering the entire orbital.

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<v Speaker 2>Ecosystem, meaning they aren't just dropping off NASA's cargo anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They are literally building the destinations.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and this is a huge leap. For half a century,

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to keep human beings alive in the lethal

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<v Speaker 3>vacuum of space was considered the absolute pinnacle of national power.

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<v Speaker 2>Because base actively wants to kill you.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single second. Developing an environmental control and life support system,

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<v Speaker 3>what we call on ECLSS, is incredibly hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because you have to scrub the carbon dioxide so

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<v Speaker 2>people don't suffocate, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And recycle moisture from human breath and sweat into drinkable water,

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<v Speaker 3>and regulate extreme thermal swings.

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<v Speaker 2>Is essentially building a perfect miniature Earth pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was the exclusive, highly classified domain of agencies

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<v Speaker 3>like NASA and ross Cosmos.

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<v Speaker 2>But now private corporations are mastering these technologies.

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<v Speaker 3>They are they are building their own crew capsules, their

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<v Speaker 3>own life support architecture, and their own docking sensors.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is wild. Yeah, the technologies that used to define

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<v Speaker 2>a global superpower are now basically off the shelf.

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<v Speaker 3>Commercial products, well, highly specialized commercial products, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, So if the ferries are running cheaply and

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<v Speaker 2>private companies have figured out how to build the habitats,

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<v Speaker 2>who is actually constructing the real estate to replace the ISS.

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<v Speaker 3>We are watching a heavily capitalized, intense race to build

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<v Speaker 3>the first generation of privately operated orbital stations, and.

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<v Speaker 2>The architecture of these new stations is completely different from

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<v Speaker 2>the ISS.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, completely different. The ISS is at its core, an isolated,

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<v Speaker 3>bespoke scientific laboratory.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like a giant science experiment.

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<v Speaker 3>It basically is. But these new platforms are being designed

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<v Speaker 3>from the ground up as mixed use orbital business parks.

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<v Speaker 2>Mixed use like a zoning law.

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<v Speaker 3>In space exactly. They are explicitly intended to support manufacturing,

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<v Speaker 3>commercial research, media production, and tourism all at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the strategies for actually getting these things built

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<v Speaker 2>is fascinating to me, and honestly, it's a bit bizarre.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking about Axiom Space, aren't you, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Because building a space station from scratch and hoping it

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<v Speaker 2>works perfectly on day one in a vacuum is incredibly risky.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an immense financial and technical risk.

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<v Speaker 2>So Axiom Space is doing something I can only describe

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<v Speaker 2>as a hermit crab maneuver.

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<v Speaker 3>Out analogy is actually highly accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>Break down how that works because it's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>So Axiom strategy is to avoid launching a standalone, unproven

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<v Speaker 3>station into the void all at once. Instead, they are

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<v Speaker 3>leveraging the existing multi billion dollar infrastructure of the ISS.

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<v Speaker 2>The negotiated agreements to launch their own privately built commercial

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<v Speaker 2>modules and just physically dock them to the International Space Station.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, they are literally just plugging into the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so smart. They're using the ISS as massive

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<v Speaker 2>solar arrays for power.

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<v Speaker 3>YEP and it's communication dishes to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>To Earth, and the gyroscopes to keep everything stable. They're

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<v Speaker 2>using the larger shell for protection and resources while they.

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<v Speaker 3>Grow exactly like a hermit crab. They can fly up

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<v Speaker 2>It mitigates so much early stage developmental risk.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does. It provides a transitional bridge between the

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<v Speaker 2>There is a secondary phase to this strategy rg.

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<v Speaker 2>It will become self sufficient.

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<v Speaker 3>No? And that is the elegance of the plan. Shortly

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<v Speaker 3>before the ISS is decommissioned and begins its final destructive descent,

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<v Speaker 3>the entire Axiom commercial segment will simply detach.

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<v Speaker 3>It will undock fire its own thrusters, separate from the

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<v Speaker 2>That is wild. It literally just walks away from the explosion.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, yes, but Axiom.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't the only player in this game. The scale of

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have to look at concepts like blue Origins

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<v Speaker 2>Orbital Reef such a cool name.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, and there are architectures being developed by Voyager

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<v Speaker 3>Space and legacy defense contractors like Northrop Grumman two.

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<v Speaker 2>And Blue Origin specifically uses the terminology of a mixed

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine signing a commercial lease where your primary concern is

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's a whole new world of real estate.

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<v Speaker 2>But this shift from the ISS to something called an

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<v Speaker 2>orbital reef is a huge philosophical pivot in what way. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the ISS was an instrument of diplomacy, right. It was

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<v Speaker 3>To inextricably link their hardware, so they had to cooperate

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<v Speaker 3>to survive exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Its currency was international goodwill. But these new stations, their

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<v Speaker 3>You're absolutely right. It is a transition from geopolitical diplomacy

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<v Speaker 2>The survival of an orbital reef doesn't depend on international treaties,

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<v Speaker 2>not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>It depends on profitability, scalability, and market.

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<v Speaker 2>Demand, which means if they don't secure tenants, the station

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<v Speaker 3>It's high stakes, very high stakes, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Demands we answer the multi billion dollar question here.

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<v Speaker 3>Why why go to space?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Why would a company on Earth go through the immense,

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous and incredibly expensive hassle of operating a factory in space?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the actual market advantage?

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<v Speaker 3>The advantage lies entirely in the bizarre physics of microgravity.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I need you to break that down, because when

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<v Speaker 2>people think of zero gravity, they just think of astronauts

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<v Speaker 3>Mouths, right, the fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>How does floating around translate to industrial manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you remove the constant, crushing downward force of

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<v Speaker 3>Earth's gravity, physical and biological processes behave in radically different ways.

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<v Speaker 3>How different The implications for heavy industry, advanced materials, manufacturing,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get specific. Give me an example of something we

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<v Speaker 2>can make in space that we can't make here.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's look at the microscopic level, specifically, advanced fiber.

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<v Speaker 2>Optics, the stuff that runs the Internet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, currently the backbone of the global Internet relies on

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<v Speaker 3>silica glass fiber optic cables. Okay, they are highly efficient,

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<v Speaker 3>but they suffer from signal degradation over long distances. You

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<v Speaker 2>Because the glass isn't perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially, yes, but there is a theoretical material called z blan.

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<v Speaker 2>Z blan what is that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a type of heavy metal fluoride glass and it

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<v Speaker 3>could transmit data with incredibly low signal loss, far far

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<v Speaker 3>out performing standard silica.

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<v Speaker 2>So why aren't we laying z bland cables across the

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<v Speaker 3>Because of gravity?

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<v Speaker 2>Gravity ruins the glass.

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<v Speaker 3>It does when you try to manufacture z bland on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>The heating and cooling process is subjected to gravity induced

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<v Speaker 2>Convection like how hot air rises and cold air sinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly that, But inside molten glass, as the material cools,

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<v Speaker 3>the heavier elements subtle to the bottom and microscopic convection

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<v Speaker 3>loops cause the glass to crystallize.

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<v Speaker 2>And crystals are bad for fiber optics, very bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Those microscopic crystals scatter the light passing through the cable,

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<v Speaker 3>completely ruining its transmission properties.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you manufacture z blan. In a microgravity environment,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no up or down, so there's no convection.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, or rather, the convective forces are practically eliminated. The

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<v Speaker 3>glass cools into a perfectly amorphous solid. Without those microscopic crystals,

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<v Speaker 3>you can pull a flawless optical fiber. The resulting cable

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<v Speaker 3>can transmit data over vast distances with almost zero signal loss.

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>And the same principle of eliminating gravity induced convection and

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<v Speaker 3>sedimentation applies to manufacturing pristine semiconductor lattices for microchips.

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<v Speaker 2>So for a massive tech giant, the astronomical cost of

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<v Speaker 2>sending raw materials up to a commercial space station, paying

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<v Speaker 2>down to Earth, it's actually worth.

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<v Speaker 3>It because the product physically cannot exist otherwise. It's that

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<v Speaker 2>That is the economic calculus currently being modeled.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and it extends far beyond material science. It reaches

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<v Speaker 3>deeply into the pharmaceutical.

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<v Speaker 2>Industry, medicine in space. This is where it gets really

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<v Speaker 2>sci fi.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like it, but it's very real. Let's examine

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<v Speaker 3>protein crystallization.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Designing highly targeted drugs medicines that interact perfectly with a

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<v Speaker 2>You have to know the shape of the lock to

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<v Speaker 3>Great analogy. Yes, and to do that, they grow protein

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<v Speaker 3>crystals and hit them with X rays to mac them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm guessing gravity ruins these crystals, just like it

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<v Speaker 2>ruins the z Bland glass.

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<v Speaker 3>It absolutely does on Earth. The heavier molecules just sink

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<v Speaker 2>They collapse on themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the crystals grow unevenly. They are flawed, misshapen, and

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<v Speaker 2>So the MAP protein is blurry exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But in microgravity, those disruptive forces just vanish.

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<v Speaker 2>The proteins just float perfectly in the fluid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they grow into larger, highly uniform, perfectly structured lattices.

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<v Speaker 3>Researchers get an absolutely flawless blueprint of the molecular structure.

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<v Speaker 2>And once you have that perfect blueprint, you can design

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<v Speaker 2>a chemical key that fits the lock flawlessly.

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<v Speaker 3>You could be talking about entirely new classes of targeted

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<v Speaker 3>cancer therapies or treatments for autoimmune diseases that are simply

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<v Speaker 3>impossible to synthesize or map on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, I mean, that's world changing.

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<v Speaker 3>It is. Pharmaceutical giants are actively investing in this space

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if orbital manufacturing yields a proprietary, highly effective medication,

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<v Speaker 2>the return on investment easily justifies the orbital overhead.

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<v Speaker 3>A thousand times over. These stations will quickly transition from

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I see the massive financial upside for applied science

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<v Speaker 2>and manufacturing. It makes total sense. But I have a

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<v Speaker 3>What's the concern?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a belic it's left behind in this transition. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when space was purely the domain of national governments like NASA,

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<v Speaker 2>the mandate was at least in part basic scientific exploration, right,

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<v Speaker 2>pure science. We went up there to ask why not

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<v Speaker 2>just how much money can this make? If market demand

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<v Speaker 2>and profitability become the absolute dictators of who gets to

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<v Speaker 2>go to space, what happens to fundamental science.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very valid question.

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<v Speaker 2>If an astrophysicist wants to study cosmic rays but their

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<v Speaker 2>experiment doesn't yield a patentable fiber optic cable or a

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<v Speaker 2>lucrative cancer drug. Do they just get priced out of orbit?

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<v Speaker 3>Your concern is highly validated by the current dynamics of

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<v Speaker 3>the aerospace industry. It's a very real tension because.

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<v Speaker 2>Real estate up there is going to be incredibly expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is the classic tension between pure curiosity driven

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<v Speaker 3>research and applied commercial research, but it's magnified by the

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<v Speaker 3>extreme costs of spaceflight.

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<v Speaker 2>In a purely market driven economy. An experiment studying fundamental

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<v Speaker 2>fluid dynamics might be incredibly important for human knowledge, but

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<v Speaker 2>it won't make a dime, and.

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<v Speaker 3>If it cannot generate a return on investment, a commercial

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<v Speaker 3>station operator has absolutely no financial incentive to host it

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<v Speaker 3>over a highly lucrative pharmaceutical payload.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pure science might actually suffer. We get better

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<v Speaker 2>Internet cables, but we lose our understanding of the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a very real risk fundamental research will struggle

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<v Speaker 3>unless governments step into subsidize and lease laboratory space, specifically

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<v Speaker 3>for academic researchers.

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<v Speaker 2>That tension is going to be fascinating to watch play out.

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<v Speaker 3>The commercial transition will undoubtedly accelerate innovation and profitable sectors,

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<v Speaker 3>but it will fundamentally reshape the priorities of off world science.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but let's look out the window of one of

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<v Speaker 2>these future stations for a minute, because it isn't just

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<v Speaker 3>No, there will definitely be humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically paying tourists. We are moving from the era of

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<v Speaker 2>highly vetted, physically perfect government astronauts you know, the folks

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<v Speaker 2>with the right stuff, to wealthy civilians.

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<v Speaker 3>Wealthy civilians, filmmakers, private researchers.

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<v Speaker 2>And the architectural designs of the commercial stations reflect this

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<v Speaker 2>demographic shift perfectly, don't they.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Absolutely, The ISS is a utilitarian masterpiece, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>It's essentially a submarine in space.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, filled with exposed wiring velcrow everywhere science reacts buzzing constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Not exactly five star resort.

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<v Speaker 3>No, But commercial stations are actively designing dedicated hospitality environments.

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<v Speaker 2>We're seeing proposals for massive panoramic observation modules.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yes, constructed from advanced polymers, designed specifically to give

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<v Speaker 3>tourists these expansive views of the Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine waking up and just staring down at the entire

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<v Speaker 3>It would be life changing. And the life support systems

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<v Speaker 2>Which sounds incredible a luxury hotel orbiting the Earth, it does,

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<v Speaker 2>but having a bunch of civilians in a massive glass

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<v Speaker 2>dome flying at seventeen thousand miles per hour brings up

435
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<v Speaker 2>a terrifying operational reality.

436
00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.400
<v Speaker 3>The environment outside that dome.

437
00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Exactly lower th orbit today is not an empty, pristine void.

438
00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:41.559
<v Speaker 2>It is a highly congested highway.

439
00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Congested is almost an understatement at this point.

440
00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:45.440
<v Speaker 2>It's a mass up there.

441
00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.759
<v Speaker 3>It is severely crowded, and the primary issue isn't even

442
00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.680
<v Speaker 3>the active satellites, although the Mega constellations providing global Internet

443
00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:55.640
<v Speaker 3>access have added thousands of new objects.

444
00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Right The real hazard is the dead material space.

445
00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:02.119
<v Speaker 3>Debris, spent upper state of rockets from the nineteen eighties,

446
00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:04.920
<v Speaker 3>defunct satellites that have lost power.

447
00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:09.000
<v Speaker 2>And the millions of fragments generated by previous orbital collisions. Yes,

448
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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the physics of a collision up there,

449
00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:14.880
<v Speaker 2>because on Earth. If you have a fender bender at

450
00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:17.720
<v Speaker 2>sixty miles per hour, your car is crumpled, but you

451
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<v Speaker 2>probably survive.

452
00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:21.759
<v Speaker 3>But in orbit, the math is entirely different because of

453
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<v Speaker 3>the velocities involved.

454
00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:23.880
<v Speaker 2>It's all about speed.

455
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we must consider the formula for kinetic energy one

456
00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:30.680
<v Speaker 3>half the mass times the velocity.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Squared velocity square. That's the kicker.

458
00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. In low Earth orbit, an object is moving at

459
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<v Speaker 3>roughly seven kilometers per second because velocity is squared in

460
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<v Speaker 3>that equation, the destructive energy is just astronomical.

461
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<v Speaker 2>So even something tiny, a.

462
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<v Speaker 3>Tiny piece of debris, a stray steel bolt, or even

463
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<v Speaker 3>a fleck of paint that chipped off a booster in

464
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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety five carries the kinetic energy equivalent of a

465
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<v Speaker 3>heavy anvil being dropped from a skyscraper.

466
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<v Speaker 2>A fleck of paint acting like an explosive charge. Exactly

467
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<v Speaker 2>that that is terrified.

468
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<v Speaker 3>If a one centimeter aluminum sphere hits a commercial space

469
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<v Speaker 3>station at orbital velocity, it will effortlessly punch through standard shielding.

470
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<v Speaker 2>Potentially causing rapid explosive decompression of a habitat module where

471
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<v Speaker 2>tourists are sleeping.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and furthermore, a collision doesn't just destroy the station,

473
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<v Speaker 3>It generates thousands of new pieces of debris trapanel right,

474
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<v Speaker 3>which then spread out and threaten other infrastructure. It's a

475
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<v Speaker 3>cascading catastrophic scenario known as the Kessler syndrome.

476
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<v Speaker 2>So if a private company is going to invest billions

477
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<v Speaker 2>of dollars into an orbital reef or an axiom module,

478
00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:38.359
<v Speaker 2>they can't just cross their fingers and helpe A rogue

479
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:42.039
<v Speaker 2>bolt from a Soviet satellite doesn't annihilate their investment.

480
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<v Speaker 3>No, they absolutely cannot.

481
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<v Speaker 2>How is this traffic being managed well?

482
00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Currently? It is managed through a patchwork of radar tracking

483
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<v Speaker 3>by military organizations like the US Space Force.

484
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<v Speaker 2>They track the debris and send out warnings right.

485
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<v Speaker 3>They issue warnings of potential conjumptions. But as the commercial

486
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<v Speaker 3>sector explodes, this de da centralized system is completely insufficient.

487
00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:05.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like trying to run air traffic control for JFK

488
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<v Speaker 2>Airport with a pair of binoculars exactly.

489
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:12.279
<v Speaker 3>The orbital economy urgently requires a profoundly sophisticated, predictive traffic

490
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<v Speaker 3>management architecture.

491
00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:16.960
<v Speaker 2>It needs to track millions of microscopic objects in real time.

492
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:21.720
<v Speaker 3>And automatically communicate with autonomous thrusters on commercial stations to

493
00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:25.240
<v Speaker 3>execute evasive maneuvers. Human reaction time is too.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Slow, but setting up a global automated traffic control system

495
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<v Speaker 2>for space brings up a massive, massive issue.

496
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<v Speaker 3>The legal framework.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, on Earth, air traffic control operates within specific national borders.

498
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<v Speaker 2>In space, who is in charge?

499
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<v Speaker 3>It's a fantastic question.

500
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<v Speaker 2>Let's say a commercial station owned by a US corporation

501
00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:47.839
<v Speaker 2>has to maneuver to avoid a dead European satellite, but

502
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:51.279
<v Speaker 2>in doing so it puts a Chinese communication array at risk.

503
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Whose laws apply?

504
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<v Speaker 3>You have identified arguably the most intractable problem of the

505
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<v Speaker 3>commercial space age, governance and.

506
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<v Speaker 2>Jurisprudence, because there's no space police.

507
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:04.799
<v Speaker 3>No. The foundational legal document for human activity in space

508
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.000
<v Speaker 3>is the Outer Space Treaty of nineteen sixty seven.

509
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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen sixty seven, right in the middle of the Cold War. Yes,

510
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.599
<v Speaker 2>and I'm guessing a treaty from nineteen sixty seven didn't

511
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<v Speaker 2>include provisions for patent law regarding fiber optics manufactured in

512
00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:18.799
<v Speaker 2>zero gravity by a private corporation.

513
00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:22.960
<v Speaker 3>It definitely did not, shocking. The treaty's primary concern was

514
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<v Speaker 3>preventing the Soviet Union and the United States from placing

515
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:28.160
<v Speaker 3>weapons of mass destruction.

516
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:30.319
<v Speaker 2>In orbit, keep the nukes out of space.

517
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<v Speaker 3>Right, and establishing that no nation can claim sovereignty over

518
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.720
<v Speaker 3>a celestial body. It declares that space is the province

519
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<v Speaker 3>of all mankind.

520
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:42.319
<v Speaker 2>That sounds beautiful and principle, but it leaves a massive loophole.

521
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<v Speaker 3>It really does.

522
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Article two says no nation can claim territory. But what

523
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:52.400
<v Speaker 2>happens when a massive, incredibly wealthy private corporation essentially builds

524
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:55.759
<v Speaker 2>a monopoly on the infrastructure in low earth orbit?

525
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 3>This is a profound legal gray area right now.

526
00:25:58.359 --> 00:25:59.200
<v Speaker 2>It's the wild West.

527
00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 3>It is under the current framework, specifically something called the

528
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:06.319
<v Speaker 3>Registration Convention, a space object remains under the jurisdiction of

529
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.279
<v Speaker 3>the state that launched it, or the stay where the

530
00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:09.480
<v Speaker 3>corporation is registered.

531
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, if a tourist commits a crime aboard a

532
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:16.400
<v Speaker 2>US registered commercial module, US federal law generally applies.

533
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Generally yes, But what happens in a mixed use business

534
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:24.680
<v Speaker 3>park composed of modules built by companies from five different nations?

535
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow? If an astronaut from Japan floats from a

536
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>European module into an American one and slips, who handles

537
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the OSHA violation.

538
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, how do you enforce labor laws for private astronauts.

539
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:40.920
<v Speaker 3>How do you regulate a corporate monopoly that physically controls

540
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.039
<v Speaker 3>the only viable docking ports in low Earth orbit.

541
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<v Speaker 2>It feels incredibly similar to the era of the railroad

542
00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:48.640
<v Speaker 2>barons in the nineteenth century.

543
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.200
<v Speaker 3>That is a very apt historical comparison.

544
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Private entities that lay the tracks, build the stations, and

545
00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.640
<v Speaker 2>control the switching yards get to dictate the terms of

546
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 2>the entire economy that relies on that infrastructructure.

547
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, if you want to do business in space, you

548
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:04.920
<v Speaker 3>have to play by the rules of the corporation that

549
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:06.480
<v Speaker 3>owns the oxygen supply.

550
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>That is a lot of leverage.

551
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.960
<v Speaker 3>The commercialization of space introduces an immense potential for technological

552
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:16.039
<v Speaker 3>innovation and wealth generation, but it simultaneously threatens to concentrate

553
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:19.759
<v Speaker 3>vast power over critical offworld infrastructure into the hands of

554
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 3>a few technologically advanced corporations.

555
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:27.920
<v Speaker 2>We already see how deeply terrestrial communication monopolies impact global

556
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:29.480
<v Speaker 2>society today right now.

557
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:33.119
<v Speaker 3>Project that dynamic into an environment where a corporation controls

558
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.319
<v Speaker 3>your actual life support, it raises severe ethical and legal

559
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 3>questions regarding inequality.

560
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Which means Operating these stations is a nightmare of lethal physics,

561
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:49.160
<v Speaker 2>microscopic debris, staggering costs, and completely unresolved international law.

562
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:50.480
<v Speaker 3>It's a daunting environment.

563
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Given all of that, it seems to me that relying

564
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:54.839
<v Speaker 2>on human beings to run these factories is just a

565
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:55.960
<v Speaker 2>terrible business model.

566
00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:58.960
<v Speaker 3>From a purely economic standpoint, you are correct.

567
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Humans are the most extat defensive, fragile cargo you can

568
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 2>possibly put in space.

569
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:08.440
<v Speaker 3>We need pressurized air, clean water, radiation, shielding, food, sleep,

570
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 3>and constant.

571
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Medical bear We're incredibly high maintenance. If you want a

572
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 2>manufacturing module to actually turn a profit, you can't have

573
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 2>humans constantly sloating around, turning wrenches and fixing broken pipes.

574
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.279
<v Speaker 3>The aerospace industry has universally arrived at that exact conclusion.

575
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:23.799
<v Speaker 2>I figured as much to.

576
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 3>Achieve scalability and profitability, the human element must be aggressively minimized.

577
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:33.079
<v Speaker 2>So future commercial orbital infrastructure will not look like the ISS.

578
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.440
<v Speaker 3>No on the ISS, astronauts spend hours every single days

579
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 3>performing routine maintenance and cleaning.

580
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:40.319
<v Speaker 2>Air filters, glorified space janitor.

581
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Essentially, yes, But the backbone of the new orbital ecosystem

582
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:45.720
<v Speaker 3>is artificial intelligence.

583
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>And advanced robotics break down how an AI actually manages

584
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>a space station, because that sounds terrifyingly close to a

585
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>sci fi movie where the computer decides to lock the

586
00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>pod bay doors.

587
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I know it evokes HL nine thousand, but in reality,

588
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 3>it is a highly complex, deeply integrated sensor network. Okay,

589
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 3>the environmental control and life support system is incredibly dynamic,

590
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 3>and AI will constantly monitor thousands of data points regarding

591
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 3>oxygen concentrations, trace contaminant levels, and thermal loads.

592
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 2>It's constantly taking the pulse of the station.

593
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.559
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and if a manufacturing process suddenly generates a massive

594
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.920
<v Speaker 3>spike and heat, the AI instantaneously diverts coolant loops to

595
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.279
<v Speaker 3>prevent catastrophic failure without waiting.

596
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:32.119
<v Speaker 2>For a human operator on Earth to analyze the telemetry

597
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 2>and send a commands.

598
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, which is crucial because of the communication delay.

599
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Right even in low worth orbit, bouncing a signal from

600
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the station to a satellite, down to a ground station

601
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and into mission control.

602
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.920
<v Speaker 3>It takes time, it does, and if a valve blows,

603
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 3>you do not have time to ask for permission to

604
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 3>fix it.

605
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 2>The systems must be semi autonomous.

606
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.599
<v Speaker 3>They have to be and AI guided robotics will handle

607
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 3>the external maintenance too.

608
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 2>So no more astronauts going out on spacewalks to fix sol.

609
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 3>Panels, far fewer. Yes, Instead of risking a human life

610
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 3>in a cumbersome space suit for a dangerous extra vehicular

611
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 3>activity to inspect a micrometeoroid strike.

612
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:13.039
<v Speaker 2>An autonomous drone will just detach, navigate the exterior of

613
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 2>the hull, and execute precision robotic repairs.

614
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 3>Precisely and inside the station. Manufacturing modules producing z bland

615
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:25.160
<v Speaker 3>fiber optics or pharmaceuticals will operate continuously twenty four hours

616
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 3>a day.

617
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Entirely managed by automated systems. Yes, so you can have

618
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:32.079
<v Speaker 2>a giant floating factory module attached to an orbital reef

619
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.039
<v Speaker 2>where the lights are literally turned off.

620
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Because robots don't need light to see right, just.

621
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Churning out materials in the dark, with humans only visiting

622
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 2>once a month to swap out raw materials and collect

623
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 2>the finished products.

624
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:48.640
<v Speaker 3>That is the precise operational model being developed. It's so efficient,

625
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.559
<v Speaker 3>and AI will also manage the human element when they

626
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 3>are present, providing critical real time medical diagnostics for private

627
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.839
<v Speaker 3>crews who are physically isolated from terrestrial metas facilities.

628
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Over time, these stations just transition into largely autonomous hubs.

629
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 3>They do. But there is a bigger picture here that

630
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 3>we need to touch on.

631
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what is it?

632
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.920
<v Speaker 3>These commercial stations in low Earth orbit aren't just an

633
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 3>end goal in themselves. They are a means to an end.

634
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:17.799
<v Speaker 2>We aren't just building space factories.

635
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 3>No, we're building the ultimate testing grounds for human expansion

636
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 3>into the rest of the Solar System.

637
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh Man prototyping deep space exactly.

638
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 3>The architecture being developed for commercial Low Earth orbit is

639
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.880
<v Speaker 3>fundamentally prototyping our future. When space agencies outline their plans

640
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 3>to return humans to the Moon for sustained periods.

641
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 2>And eventually establish permanent settlements on Mars.

642
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, the technological hurdles for that are historically unprecedented.

643
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Because Mars is millions of miles away. Yeah, you can't

644
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>just call Axiom and ask them to send up a

645
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>replacement oxygen scrubber on the next rocket.

646
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 3>If yours breaks, you are completely on your own. The

647
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 3>logistics of a Mars mission dictate that the life support

648
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 3>systems must be prac infallible.

649
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.119
<v Speaker 2>And almost entirely closed loop.

650
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.720
<v Speaker 3>You have to recycle virtually one hundred percent of your

651
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>water and.

652
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Oxygen, every drop of sweat.

653
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you have to perfect radiation shielding to protect the

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<v Speaker 3>crew from galactic, cosmic rays and solar flares.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have to engineer closed ecological systems capable of

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<v Speaker 2>growing food sustainably in microgravity.

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<v Speaker 3>Or partial gravity environments like the surface of the Moon

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<v Speaker 3>or Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>And we can't test those systems on Earth because we

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<v Speaker 2>simply cannot replicate the gravity or the radiation.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to test them in lower th orbit.

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<v Speaker 2>First, lowerth orbit is the ultimate proving ground.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it provides a harsh, authentic space environment, but

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<v Speaker 3>with the vital safety net of being only a few

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<v Speaker 3>hours away from a terrestrial abort. If a system fails catastrophically.

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<v Speaker 2>If the scrubber breaks, you just jump in a capsule

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<v Speaker 2>and come home exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The commercial space stations will serve as the laboratories where

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<v Speaker 3>these critical deep space technologies are vetted.

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<v Speaker 2>Furthermore, they are the environments where we will study the

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<v Speaker 2>long term psychological and physiological adaptation of humans living in confined, artificial,

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<v Speaker 2>machine dependent environments.

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<v Speaker 3>So, when a pharmaceutical company pays to test a new

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<v Speaker 3>closed loop water filtration system on a commercial station, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's cheaper to maintain their tourist module.

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<v Speaker 2>They are inadvertently funding the exact technology that will keep

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<v Speaker 2>the first Martian colonists alive.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the beauty of it. The stations are working models

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<v Speaker 3>for future off world civilizations.

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<v Speaker 2>That perspective aligns perfectly with a broader historical framing that

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<v Speaker 2>I've been thinking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Maritime analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the maritime analogy is just fascinating. Let's really dig

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<v Speaker 2>into that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great way to understand what we're going through.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look back centuries ago, crossing the major oceans

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<v Speaker 2>was an incredibly perilous, technically demanding, and exorbitantly expensive endeavor.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not a commercial enterprise in its infancy at all.

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<v Speaker 2>The early transoceanic voyages Columbus Magellan, they were undertaken exclusively

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<v Speaker 2>by heavily funded state sponsored armadas and exploratory fleets representing

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<v Speaker 2>major empires right.

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<v Speaker 3>The ships were the equivalent of Apollo.

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<v Speaker 2>Capsules, cutting edge, dangerous and built for exploration and geopolitical posturing,

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<v Speaker 2>not sustained commerce.

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<v Speaker 3>There were no shipping lanes back then, there were no

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<v Speaker 3>commercial ports.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just uncharted wilderness. But then the technology of

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<v Speaker 2>shipbuilding improved navigation became more reliable.

699
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<v Speaker 3>The extreme risks were slowly mitigated, and as.

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<v Speaker 2>Those risks decreased, the economic model flipped entirely.

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<v Speaker 3>Private enterprise realized the vast wealth to be generated by

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<v Speaker 3>establishing reliable maritime trade routes.

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<v Speaker 2>Companies like the East India Company stepped in. Governments stopped

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<v Speaker 2>building all the ships and started building the regulatory frameworks.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead, commercial ports were constructed, formalized shipping lanes were established.

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<v Speaker 2>The ocean's transitioned from being a terrifying frontier of pure

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<v Speaker 2>exploration into the foundational bedrock of the global supply chain.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is exactly, and I mean exactly what we

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<v Speaker 3>are witnessing in the night sky right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The International Space Station, the Apollmichians, the Space Shuttle, they

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<v Speaker 2>were the state sponsored armadus.

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<v Speaker 3>They mapped the territory and proved it was theoretically possible

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<v Speaker 3>to survive.

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<v Speaker 2>But axiom space orbital reef the reusable rockets. They are

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<v Speaker 2>the commercial ports and the merchant vessels.

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<v Speaker 3>Low Earth orbit is simply the first layer of a

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<v Speaker 3>new maritime economy. But instead of the Pacific Ocean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the vacuum of space.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a profound, irreversible transition.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is a threshold moment for our.

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<v Speaker 2>Species because for the entirety of human history, from the

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<v Speaker 2>emergence of our species in the Rift Valley to this

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<v Speaker 2>precise moment right now, our civilization, our economy, and our

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<v Speaker 2>daily existence have been entirely confined to the surface of

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<v Speaker 2>a single planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Space was relegated to mythology or observational astronomy and the

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<v Speaker 3>occasional brief, temporary excursion.

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<v Speaker 2>But the construction of permanent, commercially viable orbital infrastructure represents

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<v Speaker 2>the physical structural expansion of human society beyond Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have to acknowledge that this process is not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be smooth.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's going to be chaotic.

733
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<v Speaker 3>Very chaotic. There will be massive engineering failures.

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<v Speaker 2>Companies will go bankrupt.

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<v Speaker 3>There may be tragic accidents involving debris or life support failures.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to be prepared for that.

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<v Speaker 2>These first generation commercial space stations are going to look

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly primitive, fragile, and utilitarian to our great grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they definitely won't look like the massive, spinning gravity

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<v Speaker 3>simulating cities we see in science fiction movies yet anyway.

741
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<v Speaker 3>But transformational infrastructure always begins with fragile, modest prototypes.

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00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.760
<v Speaker 2>The first railroads were little more than a few miles

743
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<v Speaker 2>of iron track, carrying steam engines that frequently exploded.

744
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 3>The first airplanes were canvas and wood contraptions that could

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<v Speaker 3>barely sustain flight for a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>The early Internet was a text based network that struggled

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<v Speaker 2>to send a single packet of data.

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<v Speaker 3>They all appeared rudimentary to the people building them at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, but they can take the architectural seeds that

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<v Speaker 3>fundamentally reshaped human civilization.

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<v Speaker 2>The commercial space stations currently being drafted are that exact

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<v Speaker 2>threshold moment for our era.

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<v Speaker 3>We are crossing the threshold from visiting space to inhabiting space.

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<v Speaker 2>Orbit is no longer just a destination for a handful

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<v Speaker 2>of highly trained specialists. It is becoming an environment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's becoming a place where businesses are balancing ledgers.

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<v Speaker 2>Where industrial manufacturing is quietly churning.

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<v Speaker 3>Away in the dark, and where the physical modules that

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<v Speaker 3>will eventually take us to Mars are being welded together.

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<v Speaker 2>The central question facing the aerospace industry has really evolved,

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>It has. It is no longer a purely engineering question

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<v Speaker 3>of how we.

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<v Speaker 2>Access orbit or even a financial question of whether these

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<v Speaker 2>commercial outposts will turn a profit.

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<v Speaker 3>The deeper, much more profound question is about human identity.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of civilization do we become when our economic

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<v Speaker 2>engines are critical infrastructure and a segment of our population

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<v Speaker 2>begin to permanently reside in the solar system is the

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<v Speaker 2>big question, And I want to leave you with a

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<v Speaker 2>thought that builds on that exact idea. Think about how

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<v Speaker 2>much of human culture, our architecture, our art, our philosophies,

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<v Speaker 2>the very structure of our societies and how we govern

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves is fundamentally invisibly shaped by the geography and the

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<v Speaker 2>gravity of Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>Gravity dictates almost everything about how we live.

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<v Speaker 2>We build things to withstand gravity, We draw borders based

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<v Speaker 2>on rivers and mountains. But what entirely new forms of

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<v Speaker 2>human culture, art, and philosophy are going to be borne

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<v Speaker 2>from a generation of people whose daily mundane existence happens

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<v Speaker 2>in weightlessness.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be completely alien to us.

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<v Speaker 2>When a permanent population of humanity looks out the panoramic

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<v Speaker 2>window of a commercial space station, not as a once

785
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<v Speaker 2>in a lifetime life altering treat, but every single day,

786
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<v Speaker 2>over the morning coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>And they see a unified globe, suspended in the void,

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<v Speaker 3>completely devoid of national borders.

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<v Speaker 2>How will that daily reality change the way we see

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves as a species.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the ultimate consequence of the commercialization of space.

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<v Speaker 3>The shift in perspective will inevitably redefine our collective understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of what it means to be human.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to change absolutely everything. So the next

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<v Speaker 2>time you are standing outside at night and you see

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<v Speaker 2>that tiny, fast moving point of light urpenting across the

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<v Speaker 2>darkness of the sky, remember that you aren't just looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a dying piece of government engineering. You were looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the foundational bedrock of humanity's permanent off world economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for joining us on this journey today. Keep

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<v Speaker 2>looking up and we'll catch you next time.
