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Speaker 4: minutes now after eight PM Eastern and my co host
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Speaker 4: has your week been?
Speaker 5: It's it's this week went by fast, but it was.
Speaker 5: It's a killer, man. I've been past three days. I've
Speaker 5: been tackling an oak tree next door that came down
Speaker 5: in a storm, an oak tree, and okay, just getting
Speaker 5: it cut up for firewood and getting everything else moved
Speaker 5: out to the road. Neighbors paying me to get it.
Speaker 5: But it's just such a pain in the butt. It's
Speaker 5: one of these limbs. It's probably fifteen inches where it
Speaker 5: connects to the tree where it broke part of it
Speaker 5: was rotted and in the winds it decided to come down.
Speaker 5: And when it came down, of course it's still connected
Speaker 5: up about about sixteen feet above the ground, so it
Speaker 5: naturally comes down. And I've been cutting my way back
Speaker 5: to the tree. But I'm at the point now where
Speaker 5: I can't jack up the weight of it. I'm using
Speaker 5: four of a for that are crossed with a chain
Speaker 5: uh at the cross to buck up underneath it, just
Speaker 5: to get the pressure off of it, because when you
Speaker 5: go to cut it, the weight of the limb wants
Speaker 5: it to go down and bind your blade. So yeah,
Speaker 5: that's and exhausting, it really has. And I've only got
Speaker 5: a fourteen inch barrow my chainsaw, so you gotta you
Speaker 5: gotta get in close and with this thing the way
Speaker 5: it is the tree. Tomorrow I get to go up
Speaker 5: and actually cut it where it's joined on it the
Speaker 5: tree and drop the whole thing on the ground. Then
Speaker 5: I just cut it up. Won't be won't be bad.
Speaker 5: But between the heat and thunderstorms and evenings thunderstorms overnight,
Speaker 5: we've had a lot of limbs down things like that,
Speaker 5: so there's been a lot of cleaning up all week long.
Speaker 5: But other than that, and the week's gone by quick.
Speaker 5: I mean, it was hard for me to believe yesterday
Speaker 5: I thought, good lord, it's Thursday already.
Speaker 4: So m but everything seems to be banishing this week quickly.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like poof, it's gone, poof, it's gone.
Speaker 4: Everything there's not gone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, there's not been anything going on on, you know,
Speaker 5: news wise, really just same old, same old, other than
Speaker 5: Fauci testifying the other morning and everybody he did exactly
Speaker 5: what everybody said he was gonna do, plead the fifth.
Speaker 5: So you know, that was a shit show for what
Speaker 5: three hours, waste of time, just nothing's gonna come of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. See, now that was a weird thing because for
Speaker 4: a little while you were like evil if you pointed
Speaker 4: out how evil Fauci was, and now it's okay to
Speaker 4: point it out. And they were even making big headlines
Speaker 4: out of it for a minute that there was some
Speaker 4: big meltdown or you know, some kind of crazy thing
Speaker 4: happened during his testimony or whatever, and then you go
Speaker 4: check it out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm one of the senators dropped an F
Speaker 5: bomb in the hearing. Ooh, he asked you. Yeah, basically
Speaker 5: he asked him, you know, who the fuck did you
Speaker 5: think you were doing all this to the nation?
Speaker 4: And you know, as if like five year olds don't
Speaker 4: talk that way at this point in America, I mean, seriously,
Speaker 4: this is not I don't get it. Like language has
Speaker 4: changed to a degree where you know, it used to
Speaker 4: be you had, you know, the seven words and all
Speaker 4: that from George Carlin. You couldn't use it on TV.
Speaker 4: You couldn't use it on the radio because if you did,
Speaker 4: you got fined, you got in trouble, you know, this
Speaker 4: kind of thing. But now they have regulations saying that
Speaker 4: once a week or so, or maybe once an episode
Speaker 4: during certain TV shows at certain times, you can drop
Speaker 4: an F bomb. Now, it used to be permissible that
Speaker 4: from like midnight to six am you could do anything
Speaker 4: you wanted, but people didn't do it all the time,
Speaker 4: and then when they did, there was protestation, if you will.
Speaker 4: But now with everything being on demand, you got you know,
Speaker 4: adult material airing at all times a day, depending on
Speaker 4: when you want to play it in your home. So
Speaker 4: it is what it is whenever it is.
Speaker 5: And well, and I'll find that surprising because for quite
Speaker 5: some time, you know, British TV swear words or I
Speaker 5: mean it's nothing after I don't know what their time
Speaker 5: limit is, but their shows at night, their variety shows
Speaker 5: and things like that, I mean people drop f bombs
Speaker 5: and caughing shit.
Speaker 4: And you know, well even in the eighties, even in
Speaker 4: the eighties, I got videotapes of stuff from Britain where
Speaker 4: you know what was it, Wendy o Williams took off
Speaker 4: her top on live TV and just showed everybody her breasts,
Speaker 4: and American viewing audience would have flipped out if that happened.
Speaker 4: I mean, you remember what happened with Janet Jackson with
Speaker 4: just like a flash of her nipple allegedly during the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, right, the whole country lost its mind. But
Speaker 4: you know, people would get topless on there, they'd get
Speaker 4: naked sometimes run around Benny Hill. When they brought it
Speaker 4: over here, the women ran around in you know, lingerie
Speaker 4: or bikinis. But on British TV, they were naked when
Speaker 4: they ran around and did the ludicrous you know, Dan, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, totally different animal over there
Speaker 4: at night.
Speaker 5: I've always been surprised how we're so you know, when
Speaker 5: it came to I mean, I understand, we had broadcast
Speaker 5: standards for a reason, but it's like we were pure,
Speaker 5: that is compared to the rest of you know, Europe,
Speaker 5: the rest of the world things that you can see,
Speaker 5: although some places go even worse than us. I'll give
Speaker 5: you an example. In South Korea, one of the artists
Speaker 5: that I follow put out their latest hit and part
Speaker 5: of it was filmed in a traffic tunnel and they
Speaker 5: had to for that video to be played on TV,
Speaker 5: they had to put a warning beforehand not to walk
Speaker 5: in traffic tunnels, and you couldn't play I'm serious, you
Speaker 5: could not play the video unless you ran that warning beforehand,
Speaker 5: you know, because when they filmed it, it was all
Speaker 5: closed road section and she's walking down this tunnel along
Speaker 5: the striped line and the lights. I mean, it was
Speaker 5: really it was shot very well, I mean the way
Speaker 5: that they did it, but they have to play this
Speaker 5: warning before you play that that video. It's crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 5: one extreme to the other.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Country by country and region by that stuff varies
Speaker 4: wildly where they give you warnings, like you know, they
Speaker 4: don't try this at home warning right, like they had
Speaker 4: to do with wrestling. After a little while, I mean
Speaker 4: in the seventies and whatever whatever aired aired, these guys
Speaker 4: were literally cutting themselves open with razor blades and bleeding
Speaker 4: all over the place and it was fine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's got Well, look at the commercials here
Speaker 5: where they show the new Masta RX seven whipping through
Speaker 5: the mountains on a nice curvy road and in a
Speaker 5: small strip down or closed road.
Speaker 4: Close, try driver this, do not this is not normal
Speaker 4: vehicle behavior.
Speaker 5: Blah blah.
Speaker 4: But yeah home, but you don't even see that warning.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is there are these blazoned warnings like
Speaker 4: don't try this at home, do not do this, you know,
Speaker 4: like when they had to like the show Jackass, right,
Speaker 4: and it was like, you know, they were doing all
Speaker 4: kinds of crazy things to each other, stapling each other
Speaker 4: to each other and whatever else, and you know, let's
Speaker 4: see what happens if we get kicked by a horse,
Speaker 4: you know, weird kind of well yeah, but and.
Speaker 5: There though, you also have the difference over here of
Speaker 5: stuff being on broad cast versus cable. You know, cable,
Speaker 5: you could get away with the nudity and the language
Speaker 5: and everything else broadcast over here because but only on pay.
Speaker 4: Cap only on pay cable, Like if you paid for
Speaker 4: the channels and then you could get away with the
Speaker 4: nudity and the cursing and whatever. But but then, you know,
Speaker 4: but if you had like USA Network or whatever, they
Speaker 4: had to cut it down to even I don't know,
Speaker 4: like more team than what like your regular open air
Speaker 4: broadcasts would do. And like I said, there'd be trigger warning.
Speaker 4: Now there's trigger warnings, and they warn you if they're smoking.
Speaker 4: Now in any television show where old you know, they
Speaker 4: run some old show and somebody smokes a cigarette. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know whatever I mean. If you remember the Twilight Zone,
Speaker 4: everybody had a damn cigarette, right because they were sponsored
Speaker 4: by Philip Morris, I think.
Speaker 5: I mean, well, yeah, what was it?
Speaker 4: The Mason, the Flintstones, the Flintstones, we were sponsored by
Speaker 4: Winston and Salem. Uh, you know the cartoons. But what's
Speaker 4: weird is now, like I said, it's like smoking su iation.
Speaker 4: If you or anybody you know it's feeling suicidal, you know,
Speaker 4: because they're going to show a character kill themselves or
Speaker 4: whatever or try to kill themselves.
Speaker 5: Well, it's so bad even on YouTube in Korea, another
Speaker 5: group that I followed, they put out they put out
Speaker 5: a song and it was like a small movie as
Speaker 5: the song played and it had a lot of information,
Speaker 5: a lot of things, and there was a building that
Speaker 5: blew up and there was somebody that got hit, and
Speaker 5: they had to put an age restriction on it. And
Speaker 5: that's why it didn't chart on the popular music stuff
Speaker 5: over there. It's because they put at eighteen or older
Speaker 5: restriction on the video, so it couldn't even be counted
Speaker 5: towards a lot of these charts that that they I mean,
Speaker 5: there's nine thousand charts over in Korea for music, but
Speaker 5: it didn't chart well because of all the age restricts
Speaker 5: is that they put on the video itself. Right, They've
Speaker 5: had videos that were they had to put age restrictions
Speaker 5: on simply because of the subject matter. Not a single
Speaker 5: slayer word, right, but if a sentence suggested something of
Speaker 5: an adult nature, they put an age restriction on it. Yeah, Britain,
Speaker 5: well you can show it at seven o'clock at night,
Speaker 5: there's no problem.
Speaker 4: Right, as long as it's like after dinner in England,
Speaker 4: you're okay, you know what I mean, Like you could
Speaker 4: do anything after dinner before that though, they're a little
Speaker 4: a little restrictive, you know. But but then again they
Speaker 4: do let a lot of words across that we would
Speaker 4: never let across even during.
Speaker 5: Their think about this too. The station's over there, a
Speaker 5: government owned yeah, which is even weirder.
Speaker 4: But yeah, anyway, but my whole point is that, you know,
Speaker 4: society is not reflective of all these restrictions. You know
Speaker 4: what I mean that that that people put out. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: you're going to be confronted by this and that and
Speaker 4: if you're triggered, and like I said, there's a whole
Speaker 4: like script that goes along with if somebody does harm
Speaker 4: to themselves during a dramatic act whatever it may be,
Speaker 4: not not you know of this is real and this
Speaker 4: is all you know, a play of some type. It's
Speaker 4: not actual people actually hurting themselves. This is acting in
Speaker 4: special effects.
Speaker 1: No, not that.
Speaker 4: But if you're feeling is though you might want to
Speaker 4: harm yourself. Here's the eight under number and everything you know. Anyway,
Speaker 4: Jimmy James is on the line, and uh, anybody else
Speaker 4: is welcome to join us as well. Three one nine,
Speaker 4: five two seven five zero one six. I'm gonna get
Speaker 4: him on. But it's a worthy conversation. You and I
Speaker 4: might want to put a pin in this one and
Speaker 4: get back to it later, depending on what Jimmy wants
Speaker 4: to talk about. So let's get him on and uh
Speaker 4: three one nine five two seven five zero one six,
Speaker 4: that's the number to call and be a part of this. Jimmy. Uh,
Speaker 4: what's on your mind tonight? Or do you want to
Speaker 4: continue on with the uh, you know, restrictive nature of
Speaker 4: content on television and online and everything, or you want
Speaker 4: to go with something else. We're here where you bro?
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 9: Well, it doesn't seem like they're all right.
Speaker 1: Oh my crap there?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I I barely heard you, but I didn't
Speaker 4: hear an echo. You were muffled.
Speaker 3: I heard everything I said. Come back to me.
Speaker 4: Is it still doing it?
Speaker 5: I don't hear him at all?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we don't. We don't hear an echo. We
Speaker 4: hear we hear just you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't even hear him.
Speaker 4: Oh you don't hear him?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: I can him up. I can turn him up a little.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Jimmy, be Pete.
Speaker 9: You hear this.
Speaker 4: You're not hearing him?
Speaker 8: Be Pete?
Speaker 4: No nothing, Holy crap, Why is he not hearing this? Okay,
Speaker 4: let me see hang on, Jimmy. I'm gonna try and
Speaker 4: fix in real time, because I got to be Pete
Speaker 4: hearing most stuff. But uh, apparently he's not hearing the
Speaker 4: phones the phones, and I don't know why. So I'm
Speaker 4: going to figure that out while I'm talking to you,
Speaker 4: so I can do here. Let's see. Let's see, you know,
Speaker 4: high definition one of your two real tech definition. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's try this one. Go ahead, Jimmy, speak again.
Speaker 3: Hey, b Pete, can you hear this?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I got you now?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, hold on, that's not the way that's supposed
Speaker 4: to go. Hold on a second, here we go. Let's
Speaker 4: try this and this. Okay, now to go ahead, Jimmy.
Speaker 3: One two three.
Speaker 4: You didn't hear that? Be Pete?
Speaker 5: Now often I had him there for a second.
Speaker 4: Then he's going, oh, man, hold on a second. Let's try.
Speaker 5: That loose wire.
Speaker 4: I don't know why it did it. Let's see if
Speaker 4: we go here, how about now, Jimmy, go ahead, all
Speaker 4: right about No, nope, I guess he's not picking you up.
Speaker 4: All right, Let's try the I don't want to switch
Speaker 4: the speaker around because let's see try again. Go ahead,
Speaker 4: one two three four? I got him now, okay, you
Speaker 4: got him? Now? Okay, there we go so you can
Speaker 4: hear you now, Jimmy, Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 9: Peep, Pete, burn your chance. Who's your current shirts? Quickly?
Speaker 9: Do you use USA A.
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 5: Geico was my last company. I went with.
Speaker 9: Do you use that little weasel the crazy Lizard?
Speaker 5: Cheapest right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't care what their logo is. Fell O'Neil,
Speaker 4: Shaquille O'Neal and the weird general guy could run it
Speaker 4: as long as there's a cheap one, right, I mean.
Speaker 1: Who can?
Speaker 5: I mean I was with State Farm for years and
Speaker 5: they just kept going up and up and up, and
Speaker 5: I got one speeding ticket and it got dropped at court,
Speaker 5: so there was no points on my license, but they
Speaker 5: still hit me for the ticket and jacked my premiums.
Speaker 5: I said, screw you guys. So I called a couple
Speaker 5: of places. Getico came in the cheapest, so I went
Speaker 5: with them. There you go.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't want with cars. Who wants to save money?
Speaker 3: Here's a little something that I learned the curd Uh.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I was wondering what in the world that's going on here?
Speaker 10: Dropping it to as you know, checking it out on line.
Speaker 10: My car coy as a how can no fault assurance.
Speaker 1: It's as cheap.
Speaker 10: As you can I could get.
Speaker 3: It would be a one hundred and fifteen dollars.
Speaker 1: That is very bizarre.
Speaker 9: And yet so I kept it a full coverage.
Speaker 3: Everything because it's like one hundred and fifty. Okay, so
Speaker 3: your fall. A week or two ago, I unloaded a
Speaker 3: couple of cars.
Speaker 11: So now my, oh by the way, those cars, each
Speaker 11: of them, the only thing I had on those was
Speaker 11: towing and roadside for a dollar eighty eight.
Speaker 3: So how much to buy your accounting should that beat?
Speaker 4: Well? Two cars? It should be what three seventy six?
Speaker 4: Right right?
Speaker 3: Okay? So that plus you would take the prices of
Speaker 3: the vehicle.
Speaker 9: That I actually drive.
Speaker 4: About right, yeah, whatever that is.
Speaker 3: Yet I scrapped these cars to get rid of them.
Speaker 3: They readjusted my bill and it went from one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty to ninety five dollars.
Speaker 4: Wow, so you lost sixty dollars in that, which is
Speaker 4: crazy because you only at it at Yeah, okay, don't
Speaker 4: I don't understand that at all. That makes no sense mathematically.
Speaker 9: Well, what I am is mad. Why in the world
Speaker 9: were they charging in fifty five dollars a month for
Speaker 9: cars that were in storage? Not being used.
Speaker 3: Are they nuts?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Apparently, Yeah, But don't you still have to carry liability
Speaker 5: on your state if it's got a tag on it?
Speaker 5: Were they tagged? Did those cars that were in storage
Speaker 5: did they have tags on them?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 9: One was still license the other one, well, yeah, I
Speaker 9: had a plate.
Speaker 3: But it was it renewed or anything. It's just sitting
Speaker 3: in my scure viuel.
Speaker 5: Well, it may be that if there's a plate on one,
Speaker 5: they have to charge you at least liability could be in.
Speaker 5: That's the way it is here. If you've got a
Speaker 5: plate on a car. Yeah. Here, if you have a
Speaker 5: plate on a car, you have to have livebuilding insurance
Speaker 5: on it. Even if the plate runs out. Until that
Speaker 5: plate is turned in and it's not associated with the
Speaker 5: VEN number on that car, they're gonna charge you. You
Speaker 5: have to have liability for a certain amount.
Speaker 9: Shouldn't they have told me that mentioned it in the
Speaker 9: last couple of years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they should have. I'll give you a better one
Speaker 5: than that, Jimmy. Let's say I buy a car today,
Speaker 5: I call and put insurance on it, put a tag
Speaker 5: on it. Okay, I call up Geico. It's going to
Speaker 5: be eighty seven to fifty six a month.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 5: In this state, there is a minimum for these people
Speaker 5: to write insurance. They have to have a guaranteed minimum
Speaker 5: of a certain number of months. And this is what
Speaker 5: happened to me with the last car I had. I
Speaker 5: had the car, kept insurance on it the whole time,
Speaker 5: and then stopped and it was all like three months
Speaker 5: into a six month renewal. Here they hit you six
Speaker 5: months twice a year. You're gonna you know, you're gonna
Speaker 5: have to renew your contract every six months. Okay, It's
Speaker 5: very seldom that they'll go a full year unless you've
Speaker 5: got your house and another car and a multi you know,
Speaker 5: you got multi vehicles and a house, and you're getting
Speaker 5: this discount and that. Anyway, I started the new contract,
Speaker 5: I went two and a half months. I sold the car, okay,
Speaker 5: turned in the plate, notified the insurance company that I
Speaker 5: turned into plate. I had been paid up to that point,
Speaker 5: because in this state, you pay your month ahead. It's
Speaker 5: not like they ensure you a month and then you
Speaker 5: pay them. You pay up front, then they cover you
Speaker 5: for that amount of time. So my premiums were all
Speaker 5: up to date. I had paid three months of premiums
Speaker 5: when four month came around, they sent me a bill,
Speaker 5: So I'm not paying this. I don't even own the
Speaker 5: car anymore. Oh, well, we have a guaranteed minimum. They
Speaker 5: turned in a one month premium to a damn collection
Speaker 5: agency until I fought it because they said, in North Carolina,
Speaker 5: we have a minimum of four out of six months
Speaker 5: that we're going to get paid for. And I said, well, then,
Speaker 5: why didn't you tell me that when you wrote the
Speaker 5: policy out of gone with somebody else? They said, well,
Speaker 5: doesn't matter who you go with. All the companies here
Speaker 5: in North Carolina do the same thing. So they basically
Speaker 5: are screwing you out of a month. If you own
Speaker 5: it for three months and sell it, they want that
Speaker 5: fourth month because they're guaranteed by the legislature that they
Speaker 5: can charge you for that extra month. It's the biggest
Speaker 5: rip off in the world.
Speaker 4: So that means if you have a car and you totally.
Speaker 9: Not one ticket, no one time. If I ever got
Speaker 9: elected from the clouds, give me thousand.
Speaker 3: Discustry.
Speaker 5: It's a racket. It's like everything else they're gonna get,
Speaker 5: they're gonna they're gonna guarantee, and that's like homeowner's insurance
Speaker 5: in this state because the amount of hurricanes that we've had,
Speaker 5: two companies decided as what two years ago, two major
Speaker 5: companies said, we are not insuring any property east of
Speaker 5: Interstate ninety five, and then a couple more came in
Speaker 5: and said, we're not guarant we're not writing insurance on
Speaker 5: any house east of Highway seventeen, which is closer to
Speaker 5: the coast. So little by little, people are having to
Speaker 5: scramble now to get their home, their homeowners insurance in place,
Speaker 5: especially if you have a mortgage. You know, if you
Speaker 5: got a mortgage on the house, you have to have
Speaker 5: the insurance on it. Well, now companies are saying we're
Speaker 5: not doing business in that part of the state anymore,
Speaker 5: and our state insurance commissioner won't say, look, if you
Speaker 5: want to do business in this state, you will cover
Speaker 5: homes all the way across this state because they're afraid
Speaker 5: to go to court. It's a rocket.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, guaranteed. And Georgia's gotten even weirder. To be
Speaker 4: honest with you, I don't even understand by half of
Speaker 4: what Kim's telling me about the insurance. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: just it's absolutely insane. I don't get it. She doesn't have.
Speaker 4: You know, she's got a long driving record, and I
Speaker 4: mean she suffered like one one or two accidents I
Speaker 4: think in her total driving record, which is not bad,
Speaker 4: you know, when you've been driving like forty years. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, what the hell? But I mean,
Speaker 4: they got her jacked up pretty high for a and
Speaker 4: and they're saying it's because of where we live. And
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, but we're not ensuring the damn thing
Speaker 4: for theft or anything. You know, it's not like it's
Speaker 4: being insured for anything other than the basic liability, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but yeah, they want I mean, you know, you guys
Speaker 4: are talking about very low compared to what it is.
Speaker 4: She's the element here, you know. And again, somebody in
Speaker 4: their fifties, you figure your insurance rate goes down. But
Speaker 4: because we didn't have a car for a couple of years,
Speaker 4: that's one problem. And then I don't even know what
Speaker 4: the rest of the problem is, to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: but I mean, we can't see insurance for less than
Speaker 4: two to fifty a month at this point.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, at one time, a lot of states
Speaker 5: would allow them to run a credit check on you
Speaker 5: for insurance and set your rate that way, and they
Speaker 5: used to do that years ago. Here I was probably
Speaker 5: in my twenties, and I went in and said, well,
Speaker 5: you know why is my insurance so high? Well, one,
Speaker 5: I was living in Greenville where the college was, so
Speaker 5: your rates are normally going to be higher there. Or
Speaker 5: if you have a military base nearby because of the
Speaker 5: amount of traffic, they raise your rates because there's a
Speaker 5: lot of claims. But then they told me, well, they
Speaker 5: ran a credit check. I said, well, I don't have
Speaker 5: any credit. Well, see, that's the problem. You don't have
Speaker 5: a credit history. You're only twenty years years old. I said, well,
Speaker 5: finally they made that illegal. They're not supposed to be
Speaker 5: able to run a credit check on you and affect
Speaker 5: your rates that way. But then as I got older
Speaker 5: and you go to some of these places and talk
Speaker 5: about prices, and it's like, well, with your age and
Speaker 5: where you're living, and the kind of car that you have,
Speaker 5: and the repair costs and the theft rate. See, and
Speaker 5: that's why mine was so high on the Kia because
Speaker 5: of the theft rate. It was the last year before
Speaker 5: they put in the electronic locks and everything. Everything we
Speaker 5: worked with a key and people could get in and
Speaker 5: you could easily hot wire one, so you could jump
Speaker 5: in with a screwdriver and crank a Kia for a
Speaker 5: long time. Okay, Well, so they raised the rates on them.
Speaker 5: Before I got rid of the car, I got a
Speaker 5: letter from them saying, now on Kia souls, we will
Speaker 5: not offer full protection. And I said, what do you mean, Well,
Speaker 5: we won't cover it for theft. And I said, well why, Well,
Speaker 5: because they have crappy locks and ignitions and they're easily stolen.
Speaker 5: I said, so I can get all the coverage I want,
Speaker 5: but you won't cover it for theft. Yeah, I said, okay,
Speaker 5: well I'll go somewhere else. So it's every little thing
Speaker 5: that they can find a reason not to ensure you
Speaker 5: or to jack your rate, they're gonna do it. It's
Speaker 5: like health insurance. They're gonna gig you one way or
Speaker 5: the other. They should be illegal and more and more
Speaker 5: attacks on the car owners of America.
Speaker 1: The VP.
Speaker 3: So I bought an alternator is a one eighty five.
Speaker 3: I got explored and that thing was throwing up charge
Speaker 3: of system there.
Speaker 9: So I went and we turned it and got another one.
Speaker 3: Student the same junk.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 9: Basically, I was told.
Speaker 3: It's because that stupid Jeff Garrett doesn't store their arts
Speaker 3: and road to trade. So I was checking out the
Speaker 3: prices at online. Cheapest one I could find was one
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty for REFURBI Stacey Delco painted.
Speaker 5: Really, I'm surprised you found one that cheap.
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh yeah, that's that's pretty reasonable really online. But
Speaker 9: then I called this dude told me about another.
Speaker 3: Place where they they get recent anytime cars get total
Speaker 3: lower cars.
Speaker 9: They go to this place. So I'm trying this place
Speaker 9: they got. I can learn from them that they're two
Speaker 9: hundred and am for thirty five bucks.
Speaker 3: I'll try that out.
Speaker 5: Why not, I'll tell you, well, just a core cost
Speaker 5: is usually fifty bucks. Yeah, that's what i'd do, is
Speaker 5: I'd go with that.
Speaker 9: The old junk one is a swap, right.
Speaker 4: Well, that's the other thing. Some places will take you know,
Speaker 4: your you're busted, whatever your your your battery or whatever
Speaker 4: it is that you're taking out. They'll take that and
Speaker 4: they'll do something with it, either recycle it or refurbish
Speaker 4: it for somebody else.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you go to buy a battery or an
Speaker 5: alternator or a starter or something like that without a Corp.
Speaker 5: You're gonna pay through the nose. It's like buying propaging
Speaker 5: tanks now for your grill. If you don't have a
Speaker 5: trade in, it's gonna cost you eighty five dollars. If
Speaker 5: you got to get empty tank to give them, it'll
Speaker 5: be fifty.
Speaker 4: Bucks, right, which, by the way, it wasn't too long ago.
Speaker 4: They were like twenty bucks when you swapped the dog oo.
Speaker 5: Times have changed, my friend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they definitely have, because I mean I would say
Speaker 4: ten years ago I was still able to get them
Speaker 4: for like twenty five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but well since COVID, since COVID changed everything everything.
Speaker 5: I mean I looked the other day at Speedway. I
Speaker 5: stopped in there to get some gas for the mowers,
Speaker 5: and their exchanges were seventy five without a tank. With
Speaker 5: a tank, it was like fifty two something.
Speaker 4: Yeah. See, that's crazy to me. You know, it's like
Speaker 4: the seventy five with the tank. I mean, that's been
Speaker 4: like that for a long time. Even when it was
Speaker 4: twenty five to swap a tank, it was still like
Speaker 4: fifty five to get a tank, you know, with nothing.
Speaker 4: But everything has gone up this like twenty forty thirty
Speaker 4: percent depending on what it is. Just in the past
Speaker 4: couple of years.
Speaker 5: It seems like, yeah, you know, well it's all been
Speaker 5: since COVID, and they all blame it on supply chain.
Speaker 1: Supply chain, no spot chain.
Speaker 4: Okay, supply chain means shortage and okay, fine, I get it.
Speaker 4: But the idea that these prices never ever come back. See,
Speaker 4: that's the thing. When you've got a temporary situation that
Speaker 4: jack's up prices, right, the only thing that ever gives
Speaker 4: back is like gas and stuff like that. But when
Speaker 4: you got like a hard product, they never give back
Speaker 4: once they start taking from you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, they're not about to. When I lived,
Speaker 5: when I was in Hickory, about forty twenty five miles away,
Speaker 5: was a blue Rhino facility they pumped. Yeah, they transported
Speaker 5: pro pain to this place and this is where they
Speaker 5: processed all the small tanks and set them out, and
Speaker 5: the prices were outrageous, and I stopped in every one
Speaker 5: and I said, why in the hell is he so
Speaker 5: expensive for Probain? Now, Hey, our shipping costs have gone up,
Speaker 5: and we pass off every dollar back onto the customer.
Speaker 5: We're not going to lose money on this, and they
Speaker 5: won't ever go back down. Get used to it. I mean,
Speaker 5: the guy told me, once we go up on a price,
Speaker 5: we never go back.
Speaker 4: You know what was another weird thing is back in
Speaker 4: the day, if you didn't want to buy the Blue Rhino,
Speaker 4: say back in the like a round of the year
Speaker 4: two thousand, because you could still go to places and
Speaker 4: fill an old propaine tank, right, and filling an old
Speaker 4: propane tank was like cheap, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I mean I used to find a gigantic one for
Speaker 4: my home. I rented a place that had a propane
Speaker 4: tank for heating everything, for eating, cooking and the hot
Speaker 4: water heater two and the propane was dirt cheap. And
Speaker 4: to just fill it now, you know, and even if
Speaker 4: I brought a portable tank to a place to fill it,
Speaker 4: it was real super cheap. But if I wanted to
Speaker 4: do the Blue Rhino exchange, that was at a premium.
Speaker 4: Around the year two thousand, you know, propaine.
Speaker 5: Has gotten so bad. My brother's got a pretty good
Speaker 5: sized house. It's maybe say two bedrooms bigger than mine.
Speaker 5: And he's got two gas pack furtest units, one for
Speaker 5: half a house, one for the other half a house. Okay,
Speaker 5: and he has pro pain that they bring to you know,
Speaker 5: they deliver it and fill his tank and he has
Speaker 5: to go under a contract to set a price before
Speaker 5: winner ever hits or he wouldn't be able to afford it, right,
Speaker 5: the price has gotten so high.
Speaker 4: Right. But that's the thing is that I used to
Speaker 4: have to do that too, but I only had to
Speaker 4: fill my tank like once a year. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 4: way it was. And I chose to fill it obviously
Speaker 4: during the off season when it wasn't wintertime when all
Speaker 4: the you know, the the fuel costs would jack up.
Speaker 4: So you know, in the Northeast, that was the thing is,
Speaker 4: you know, the fuel costs would always jack up in
Speaker 4: the wintertime.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he sets his contract in May.
Speaker 4: Well, that that's a good time to do it. I
Speaker 4: think mine was set in like April, which was perfect
Speaker 4: because I was hardly using propane at all in April,
Speaker 4: you know, and so was everybody else that was used
Speaker 4: in propane.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just using it for cooking, yeah.
Speaker 4: And and even the water and being like you know,
Speaker 4: in my in my late twenties, to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: I was cooking a lot of things in the microwave.
Speaker 4: So I mean the stove was hardly ever turned on,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So, I mean I was
Speaker 4: using next to nothing, and that was when the cheapest
Speaker 4: rate usually would prevail in the Northeast because nobody was barbecuing,
Speaker 4: because it would you know, when it was hot out,
Speaker 4: you people are barbecuing. When it's cold out, people are
Speaker 4: heating places, right, so you get it in between. That's
Speaker 4: why April not not in the summer, but also not
Speaker 4: in the winter. It had to be the spring of
Speaker 4: the fall, one or the other. And so I chose
Speaker 4: April because it just timed out that way, like that's
Speaker 4: when I would be low in the tank. And yeah,
Speaker 4: that's the way it worked. And I never knew what
Speaker 4: my cost was going to be because they would fill
Speaker 4: it up to a certain level and they would build
Speaker 4: me you know. But I don't know how it works today,
Speaker 4: but that was Well, that's what.
Speaker 5: Bob does now, is he he will negotiate the price
Speaker 5: and then he'll have them fill it. I think they
Speaker 5: fill it, and then he makes payments on it and
Speaker 5: then usually they'll have to come back because he's just
Speaker 5: using it for heat. Usually they'll come back, like at
Speaker 5: the end of December, beginning of January to get him
Speaker 5: through the next month and a half because usually by
Speaker 5: February it's warming up enough you're not using the whole
Speaker 5: hell of a lot. But I mean it's gotten so
Speaker 5: bad that this year I'm using the fireplace. I'll be
Speaker 5: damned if I'm going to pay Duke Power any more money.
Speaker 5: Nine have to after last winter because it killed me.
Speaker 5: I had, you know, five hundred dollars eating bill one month,
Speaker 5: right because it's all electric.
Speaker 4: See, that's the thing in the Northeast though, right Your
Speaker 4: heating bills start to jack up in November because it
Speaker 4: starts getting cold then and it could stay that cold
Speaker 4: all the way up through March, you know, depending on
Speaker 4: the season. So you know, that was like the toughest thing.
Speaker 4: But you think about that for a second. That's you know,
Speaker 4: it's all the month of November, December, January, February and
Speaker 4: then part of March, almost four and a half months
Speaker 4: where you're at peak usage for you know, heating. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So I mean that's why I did it in April
Speaker 4: after all that was done, because the price should be
Speaker 4: a little higher, but it would be a lot more
Speaker 4: reasonable because it was it was going down a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so many years ago put a set of gas
Speaker 5: logs in this fireplace, and I'm taking those out and
Speaker 5: I'm going back to wood, mainly because I've got trees
Speaker 5: I'm taken down. So it's not a lack of fire. Hell, like,
Speaker 5: I know, fire would last until I die. There you go,
Speaker 5: just cutting stuff down. But I just I said, that's it.
Speaker 5: I'm not. Duke Power offers these energy programs that you
Speaker 5: can get under and they will affect They cut your
Speaker 5: power during certain peak times to your water heater, your
Speaker 5: central heat, and air like I have. And the most
Speaker 5: you can get for one of those programs is about
Speaker 5: sixty five to seventy dollars a year. It's only a
Speaker 5: few dollars each month. But they can cut your damn
Speaker 5: they can cut your AC off whenever the hell they
Speaker 5: want to. That's the problem with those plans. Yeah, they
Speaker 5: have full control. Oh we're experiencing the peak here at
Speaker 5: three o'clock in the afternoon, it's ninety nine degrees outside.
Speaker 5: We're cutting your seedback, you know. Or if you use
Speaker 5: certain things at certain times, well, if you wait to
Speaker 5: use your clothes dryer until after nine o'clock, well, how
Speaker 5: the fuck do they know if I'm running my clothes
Speaker 5: dryer or whether I'm running my oven. Smart meter, the
Speaker 5: smart meter doesn't know what it's looked too.
Speaker 4: But maybe it does.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 4: That's the thing. Some of these appliances, even ones that
Speaker 4: you think aren't exactly brand new, unless they're very, very old.
Speaker 4: A lot of them have a way of communicating that
Speaker 4: they're in use. And the smart meter is fed in
Speaker 4: through you know, some internet connection somewhere and it'll literally
Speaker 4: report on what you're using. It identifies the damn thing
Speaker 4: in use. Matter of fact, one guy has showed me
Speaker 4: something once where it knew how often the refrigerator was
Speaker 4: being opened the damn meter like somehow they got that
Speaker 4: information and somebody was opening and closing the refrigerator too often,
Speaker 4: like you know, like that that was one of the
Speaker 4: pieces of advice given to them to cut down their
Speaker 4: power bill. You're opening and closing your refrigerator too much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, mom, this summer hasn't been bad. If I said it.
Speaker 5: It takes me a while to get it tuned in
Speaker 5: because I know my my thermostat on the wall needs
Speaker 5: to be replaced just by the difference between what I've
Speaker 5: got it set on and what the actual temperature in
Speaker 5: the room is and what that little thermometer on the
Speaker 5: thermostat says. So I know there's a difference there, But
Speaker 5: once I get mine tuned in, it's very seldom I
Speaker 5: can't you know, I won't touch the heat or touch
Speaker 5: the AC for a month and a half. Now, we
Speaker 5: might get into a stretch where it's up to one
Speaker 5: hundred degrees every day during the week. Well then it gets,
Speaker 5: you know, adjusted to bump it down a little bit,
Speaker 5: because it does get hot in here. I'm lucky. I've
Speaker 5: got a lot of huge oak trees shaved me during
Speaker 5: this during the hottest part of the day, right, But
Speaker 5: when it's that hot for that many consecutive days, the
Speaker 5: house never cools off at night, so you're gonna be
Speaker 5: running it a little more. I haven't touched my thermostat
Speaker 5: probably in a month and a half. So during the summer,
Speaker 5: I'm lucky, I know about what I'm going to be
Speaker 5: spending each month. But wintertime, when it gets below thirty
Speaker 5: degrees for two weeks and doesn't get much above thirty
Speaker 5: degrees during the day for two weeks, that's when I'm
Speaker 5: gonna have a four hundred dollars power bill.
Speaker 4: Craziness, man, it is.
Speaker 5: So we're going with wood this winter, Well, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I would. I don't know what they're going to
Speaker 4: do about that, but I mean, you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: be conscientious about making sure you know, you got everything
Speaker 4: trapped up and you're not making a mess, because that's
Speaker 4: always the problem with the wood burning of fireplace, right,
Speaker 4: is that you know, you end up with a soot
Speaker 4: issue if you don't have the flu clear and all
Speaker 4: that stuff.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, mine, I've already checked out. All I've got
Speaker 5: to do is take the logs out of it, plug
Speaker 5: the whole mortar up the hole where the copper line
Speaker 5: comes in for the propane. But other than that, it's
Speaker 5: ready to go. Oh okay, But you know, and I've
Speaker 5: I've always most places i've lived, I've had a fireplace.
Speaker 5: Some places I've had wood stoves. Now I may look
Speaker 5: to see if I can find a wood stove or
Speaker 5: an insert that would fit this fireplace, And if I
Speaker 5: find one, I would probably buy it. It's just that
Speaker 5: much more efficient. Plus you've got a fan built in
Speaker 5: to you know, blow it circulated around the room and
Speaker 5: all that. It'd be much more efficient. But if not,
Speaker 5: now I just put a screen up in front of
Speaker 5: this damn thing and burn wood. But I am not
Speaker 5: going through another five hundred dollars power bill when it's
Speaker 5: thirty degrees outside.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I would definitely try with try to wood
Speaker 4: because the only other better solution I ever had was
Speaker 4: a natural I had one of those natural gas heaters
Speaker 4: that you know, like you actually had to you know,
Speaker 4: it had the igniter and all that, and it would
Speaker 4: light and it actually had plams in it. That thing
Speaker 4: was the most efficient way to warm the hell out
Speaker 4: of a small house. And I did it with just
Speaker 4: the one fireplace. It was perfect. The only thing was
Speaker 4: you had to leave all the doors open, because if
Speaker 4: I shut the doors, then I'd end up with frozen rooms,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like, if you need the
Speaker 4: bathroom frozen, you go sit on the toilet. It's like
Speaker 4: sitting on a freaking ice cube.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The biggest thing I needed for is just to knock
Speaker 5: the chill off. My living room is big enough that
Speaker 5: it can. It'll get chilly in here now. When we
Speaker 5: went when it got down to like the teens for
Speaker 5: a week this past winter, it was hard keeping it
Speaker 5: warm in here. I mean, the heat strips were running
Speaker 5: twenty four hours a day, and that's just spinning your
Speaker 5: meter off the side of the wall. So if I
Speaker 5: can keep this big room warmer, my bedroom, I just
Speaker 5: didn't have it cooler anyway. I can't sleep in the
Speaker 5: hot bedroom. So as long as I can keep them
Speaker 5: main living area warmer, a small fire in the fireplace
Speaker 5: will do that. And I've got ceiling fans in a
Speaker 5: lot of the rooms that I can cut on to
Speaker 5: help circulate it. But I just can't stand that damn
Speaker 5: electric pill. It's heat pump is nice, But you know,
Speaker 5: I understand why they're not that big a deal up
Speaker 5: north because it's always below freezing for a month at
Speaker 5: a time.
Speaker 4: Right, So it doesn't it's not gonna it's not. If
Speaker 4: you have electric heat up north, you are paying a
Speaker 4: brutal power bill. Oh yeah, like I said, for four
Speaker 4: and a half months pretty much. And that's not even
Speaker 4: like to keep your house toasty. I'm talking about just to.
Speaker 5: Make it livable, just to keep the fight from freezing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and to make sure you sink doesn't freeze exactly
Speaker 4: like you're sinking your bath tuble and up frozen up
Speaker 4: if you don't eat your place a little bit. And
Speaker 4: I yes.
Speaker 5: I read it an old farmhouse over in Greenville for
Speaker 5: about four years before I got married, and it was,
Speaker 5: I mean it was. It was such an old farmhouse
Speaker 5: that used to have a separate kitchen that was off
Speaker 5: through a breezeway. You know, back then they always put
Speaker 5: the kitchen separate in case kitchen caught on fire, didn't
Speaker 5: burn down the rest of the house. Well, these guys
Speaker 5: got industrious. There were two brothers that owned this farm.
Speaker 5: They cut the kitchen off and moved it and butted
Speaker 5: it up to the back of the main house. Well,
Speaker 5: there there was an old oil heater in it, but
Speaker 5: when I moved in, the oil tank was gone. The
Speaker 5: heater was gone. So I was using carasan heaters for
Speaker 5: a while and using those things, you know, you could
Speaker 5: you could run them all day long and keep it
Speaker 5: comfortable in there. Well, at that time I was surveying,
Speaker 5: and I was that day I knew I was going
Speaker 5: to be you know, it was snow on the ground.
Speaker 5: We couldn't do much, so it was going to be
Speaker 5: like a half a day going the office. My wife
Speaker 5: comes out from taking a shower. She's getting ready to
Speaker 5: go to school. She was in East Carolina at the time,
Speaker 5: and she says, I think the drain in the bathtub
Speaker 5: is frozen. I said what, She says, yeah, it's not draining.
Speaker 5: I said, all right, well let me go look at it.
Speaker 5: So this old farmhouse that had put ten underneath to
Speaker 5: block off the crawl space under the house. So I
Speaker 5: take the tin down and I go under the bathroom
Speaker 5: and it's old cast iron pipe. It's well, at first,
Speaker 5: it's you remember the old flue pipe from the old
Speaker 5: stoves that you know, the metal pipe that would run
Speaker 5: up as your chimney.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well this was metal pipe like that wrapped around
Speaker 5: old cast iron pipe and they shoved newspapers in between
Speaker 5: the two pipes to insulate.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: So I peel off the outer flue pipe and I
Speaker 5: finally get to the cast iron and it's just as
Speaker 5: you put your hand on and it's like sticking your
Speaker 5: hand on the block eye. So thought, oh crap, well
Speaker 5: that's what it is. So I hollered up. I knocked
Speaker 5: on the window and my wife came over there. I said,
Speaker 5: give me your hair dryer. So she opens the window
Speaker 5: and hands me her hair dryer, and I go out
Speaker 5: to the truck and I get one of these tripods
Speaker 5: that we used to use the whole level and rod
Speaker 5: and I spread it out, run a drop cord, plug
Speaker 5: in the hair dryer, used the big alligator clip to
Speaker 5: hold the hair hair dryer and point it right at
Speaker 5: the cast iron. And I don't know, maybe ten minutes
Speaker 5: had gone by. I cut the heater off so the
Speaker 5: hair dryer doesn't overheat. Then I cut it back on.
Speaker 5: I let it go and I cut it off, and
Speaker 5: next thing I know, my wife has come out of
Speaker 5: the house. He's getting ready to go to school, and
Speaker 5: she goes, well, do you think you have it fixed?
Speaker 5: I said, well, it just needs to thaw out. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna go in and check it for a minute. She goes,
Speaker 5: what are you doing. I'm reading newspapers from the nineteen
Speaker 5: thirties that they had shoved in these pottees for insulation.
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there, damn perfectly, you know, perfectly saved newsprint
Speaker 5: that hadn't seen the dale. You know, probably hadn't seen
Speaker 5: light a day since it was shoved in that pipe
Speaker 5: to insulate the damn thing. I saw sun as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw stuff like that shoved in the walls
Speaker 4: in Jersey because you know, at one point people used
Speaker 4: to insulate a lot of things with newspaper. So I
Speaker 4: saw like whole newspapers shoved in the freaking wall from
Speaker 4: like the nineteen twenties. Yeah, and I'm like, damn, you know,
Speaker 4: this whole thing's still here. I can still read about it,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's it's perfectly I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: some of them would get yellow or whatever if it
Speaker 4: was near stuff, but oh yeah.
Speaker 5: All this newspaper was yellow. But it was kind of funny.
Speaker 5: My wife, she was in a rush. He goes, well,
Speaker 5: you can update you on the news when I get
Speaker 5: back home, and she took off right.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, my solution to what you're describing
Speaker 4: here is I would have started pouring hot water in it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just to try and like
Speaker 4: melt the ice blockage would have been my move, you know,
Speaker 4: But then again, I mean some times that works, sometimes
Speaker 4: it doesn't.
Speaker 5: Then you know this way, Yeah, she took a hot
Speaker 5: shower and so the water going down the drain was
Speaker 5: hot and it still froze. So well, let me go
Speaker 5: just fall out the damn pipe, and that's all it was,
Speaker 5: was just that that cast iron had gotten cold overnight,
Speaker 5: right and had water sitting in it. It didn't have
Speaker 5: a lot of pits to it to drain. It was
Speaker 5: only you know, less of a quar inch per foot,
Speaker 5: so it was just sitting in there kind of flat,
Speaker 5: and it froze. So but we got to fix it.
Speaker 5: Didn't take even another twenty minutes and it was everything
Speaker 5: was fine. But just you know the fact that what
Speaker 5: they would use back then is just you know, shove
Speaker 5: newspapers in the pipe for insulation. That's all they had
Speaker 5: back then.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And that's the other funny thing that I would
Speaker 4: find in the walls of these houses, these old houses
Speaker 4: on the Jersey Shore, is that you could find like
Speaker 4: the wrappers and things from the guy's lunches that were
Speaker 4: building the house too. Yeah, because they just shoved that
Speaker 4: crap in there instead of throwing it away somewhere. Just
Speaker 4: that we found bottles in the wall and everything, like
Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff, like old coke bottles in the wall,
Speaker 4: and old beer bottles were in the wall, Like beers
Speaker 4: I never even heard of were stuffed in the wall.
Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, these guys just like whatever they
Speaker 4: were eating or drinking, they were like as screw it,
Speaker 4: stuffed that in the wall too, and it was just
Speaker 4: part of the insulation, you know. And then you wondered why,
Speaker 4: like some of these places would go up and burn
Speaker 4: down real quick. On the Jersey Shore, they're stuffed with
Speaker 4: kindling half of the time, newspaper and freaking sandwich wrappers,
Speaker 4: paper sandwich wrappers. What do you expect, you know? So
Speaker 4: I don't know. I was surprised that they didn't have
Speaker 4: more fires from the electrical wire that people wound up,
Speaker 4: because people would just punch, like these places didn't even
Speaker 4: initially have electricity, some of them, right, So they would
Speaker 4: later on punch electric like drill holes and run wires
Speaker 4: through these walls, and then they would put a box
Speaker 4: like fixed on the outside of the wall, like you
Speaker 4: wouldn't have a receptacle in the wall. It would be
Speaker 4: mounted on the outside of the wall, right, But these
Speaker 4: wires would come through, you know, from like a junction outside,
Speaker 4: and then they would like you know, and then create
Speaker 4: a junction on each side of the house, and then
Speaker 4: they would stick them through these these holes. And I'm
Speaker 4: thinking to myself, if these wires ever heated up. They're
Speaker 4: surrounded by newspaper. All you need is a hot, dry
Speaker 4: day and you know, and freaking enough heat on the wires,
Speaker 4: and boom, these places are just going to go up.
Speaker 4: Like I was surprised more places didn't burn down on
Speaker 4: the Jersey Shore. Other people told me, you know, it
Speaker 4: was the conditions because it was constantly damp because you're
Speaker 4: near the ocean, you know, so it never really fully
Speaker 4: dries out, like there's always enough dampness to not quite
Speaker 4: you know, light up the dried up newspaper. But if
Speaker 4: they did that in other parts of the country, you're right,
Speaker 4: whole houses would burn whole neighborhoods would burned down.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, like this house it was it was
Speaker 5: I can't remember how old they said it was, but
Speaker 5: I mean, this was an old wooden frame house. And
Speaker 5: I had a window air conditioner in the living room,
Speaker 5: and the sill underneath it had started to rot. So
Speaker 5: I take the air conditioner out of the window, and
Speaker 5: I popped the sill off in the window sill, and
Speaker 5: I looked down in the wall. The only insulation in
Speaker 5: this house was spiderwebs. There was nothing between the outer
Speaker 5: wall and the inner wall, and they were plaster walls,
Speaker 5: so like the old lab plaster you know where they so.
Speaker 4: Past the woods, yeah, past the little thin leath is
Speaker 4: nothing just.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's just empty space until you get
Speaker 5: to the exterior wall. Oh wow, I thought, well, no,
Speaker 5: wonder this. But you know, how did these people live?
Speaker 5: You think about it. You know they had lived this house.
Speaker 5: Somebody has always lived in this farmhouse. It's only been
Speaker 5: vacant for you know, short periods of time. But if
Speaker 5: you didn't have heat, how the hell did you live
Speaker 5: in it? I mean, Luckily, like I said, I had
Speaker 5: care of sudden heaters, so I could put one in
Speaker 5: the in the living room that would heat the living room,
Speaker 5: in the kitchen, and I could put one between the
Speaker 5: bedroom and the bathroom. Of course, we had an electric
Speaker 5: space heater in the bathroom. But other than that two
Speaker 5: care of sun heaters. I kept the house toasty. All
Speaker 5: went along. I mean, you could have two foot of
Speaker 5: snow on the ground, it's still nice and warming there.
Speaker 5: But oh, you think about what people had to go
Speaker 5: through back years ago when they were hauling coal or wood,
Speaker 5: or had an old pop belly stove in the kitchen,
Speaker 5: and that was the only heat you had in the house.
Speaker 4: Well, that was the reason for a lot of the designs, right,
Speaker 4: because you had to centralize around where you could keep
Speaker 4: it heated, but also where you could allow a breeze, right,
Speaker 4: So you know, everything was sort of designed with that
Speaker 4: in mind at one point. That's why you know some
Speaker 4: of these like old places, they're designed a little weird
Speaker 4: and people are like, why would you put this here? Well,
Speaker 4: because they didn't have these options. It was like, you know,
Speaker 4: if you only had the stove to heat the whole place, right,
Speaker 4: you sort of built everything around that. I mean, when
Speaker 4: you got kerosene heaters or heaters you can move around.
Speaker 4: You could choose to just keep your bedroom warm, right,
Speaker 4: like just keep the bedroom in the bathroom warm while
Speaker 4: you sleep, and then the rest of the place you
Speaker 4: could let go cold it provided you're not worrying about
Speaker 4: pipes freezing and breaking, you know, which is another weird
Speaker 4: thing that I discovered in the South which I never
Speaker 4: heard of before. These guys, you know, the like spicketts
Speaker 4: you have outside that you know, they come up and
Speaker 4: they curve down and people screwed their hoses onto them.
Speaker 4: You know, those kinds of things in the yard. Well,
Speaker 4: for some reason, people put five gallon buckets on top
Speaker 4: of these things, right and I and I'm told that
Speaker 4: this actually prevents it from freezing to a certain degree.
Speaker 4: Now I don't know.
Speaker 5: It just it keeps the outside air from hitting the
Speaker 5: pipe and getting I mean, the pipe's gonna be cold,
Speaker 5: but it doesn't get below freezing because a lot of
Speaker 5: times your water source is coming from somewhere that's warmer,
Speaker 5: like if it's an industrial, like if it's a municipal
Speaker 5: water system that's buried underground, it's deep enough that it's
Speaker 5: below the frost line that it doesn't freeze thaw. You know,
Speaker 5: ground stays a certain what is it a fifty three
Speaker 5: degrees or something so many feet down is yes, the
Speaker 5: permanent temperature, so it's not going to freeze that low. Now,
Speaker 5: my friend who's got a swimming pool, they've got an
Speaker 5: outdoor faucet. Instead of one on the side of the
Speaker 5: house where you just turn the handle, this one comes
Speaker 5: out of the ground. It's a pipe, right, and then
Speaker 5: it bends over and it's got a handle that you
Speaker 5: a lever that you pull up to get the water
Speaker 5: to flow. Okay, Well, she was filling up a pool
Speaker 5: and she was calling me, like every other day, I
Speaker 5: lost three inches of water overnight. Where is it goes?
Speaker 5: There's got to be a leak. And I went around
Speaker 5: checked the pool. All the fittings were tight for the
Speaker 5: hoses to pump everything. It wasn't leaking there, but it
Speaker 5: would go down every night. And finally I'm sitting there
Speaker 5: looking at it. She's got the hose in the pool.
Speaker 5: And I looked at her outdoor faft and I said,
Speaker 5: when you get done filling up with water, do you
Speaker 5: take the hose out? No, I said, that's where your
Speaker 5: water's going. She says, what do you mean the standpipe
Speaker 5: on your water outlets that comes out of the ground.
Speaker 5: There's a valve down in the bottom of it, so
Speaker 5: that this thing comes out of the ground and it
Speaker 5: sits up two and a half three feet to where
Speaker 5: you hook your hose up. It's just straight pipe comes
Speaker 5: straight up out of the ground. I said, what happens
Speaker 5: is this when you shut your water off and you
Speaker 5: push that lever down, there's a rod in there that
Speaker 5: goes all the way to the bottom and opens so
Speaker 5: that the water that's in your hose bib will drain
Speaker 5: out and it won't freeze overnight. I said, So when
Speaker 5: you shut your water off, you've created a vacuum and
Speaker 5: it's siphoning it water out of your pool.
Speaker 4: It's slowly pulling the water back out.
Speaker 5: Pulling it back down the line. And it was such
Speaker 5: a small amount that it would only be about three
Speaker 5: inches overnight. And it took me a month to figure
Speaker 5: that out. Wow, I said, when you get done putting
Speaker 5: water in the pool, take the hose out of the pool,
Speaker 5: and a problem stopped. But nobody. If somebody who's not
Speaker 5: familiar with how that damn that hose outlet worked, they
Speaker 5: would have never figured it out.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: It was just one of those things like I said, Well,
Speaker 5: you're siphoning whatever you're putting in there during the day,
Speaker 5: you're siphing it back out overnight. Well, I can't believe that.
Speaker 5: I said, Okay, when you get done filling the pool
Speaker 5: this afternoon, shut the water off, take the hose out,
Speaker 5: and I guarantee you you won't have lost any water
Speaker 5: by morning. That's what it was.
Speaker 4: That's what happened. Wow, that's hilarious. You're actually literally drawing
Speaker 4: the water back out and wondering where the hell it's calling.
Speaker 5: I mean, she was about to go nuts. It's not
Speaker 5: leaking anywhere, I said. I said, look, I've checked every fitting.
Speaker 5: I said, there's no water on the outside.
Speaker 1: It's not leaking.
Speaker 5: It's not your pump, it's not your connections, it's not
Speaker 5: the bottom drain. All that is bone dry. I even
Speaker 5: got in the pool with you know you squirt bottles
Speaker 5: that the restaurants used put ketchup in yep, where you
Speaker 5: just popped the cap off and.
Speaker 1: You squeeze it. All right.
Speaker 5: I got one of those, and I got a piece
Speaker 5: of hose, like surgical hose, clear tubing, put on the
Speaker 5: end of it, and I put red food color in
Speaker 5: the water in a bottle, and I got in the
Speaker 5: pool with a damn set of goggles on and got
Speaker 5: down and started sweeping spots, just barely putting out a
Speaker 5: puff of red water, trying to see where it was going.
Speaker 5: So I told her, I said, your pool is not leaking,
Speaker 5: Well good, it's got to be leaking because it's going
Speaker 5: down every damn night. Okay, just pull hose out and
Speaker 5: that'll solve your problem.
Speaker 4: Well that's great, and that is a great solution to
Speaker 4: go going with the with the food coloring and trying
Speaker 4: to get it because you didn't get that red to
Speaker 4: leak out somewhere. You go up there it is, you know,
Speaker 4: you got a little more.
Speaker 5: You can see it. Yeah, And what I did, like
Speaker 5: her where her pump in lit comes into the side
Speaker 5: of the pool, you go around that fitting. If it's leaking,
Speaker 5: it's going to pull it out.
Speaker 4: That hole, right, some red will come out. It'll just
Speaker 4: be that simple because you're putting it right there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I got you. Okay, it all makes sense.
Speaker 5: But I scratched my head. Scratched my head, and then
Speaker 5: I got to thinking about that damn water hook up,
Speaker 5: and I thought, well, wait a minute, that thing is
Speaker 5: designed to drain so it doesn't freeze in the winter, right,
Speaker 5: And so that's when I went online and I looked
Speaker 5: up the guts of how that thing was built. And
Speaker 5: there's a little washer at the very bottom of it.
Speaker 5: When you raise the handle, the washer comes up and
Speaker 5: seals off one part of the hose bib, so your
Speaker 5: water diverts and goes through the tube at the top
Speaker 5: and comes out your hose. When you shut it off
Speaker 5: and push it down, the rod goes down and a
Speaker 5: washer seals off the upper part, but it allows everything
Speaker 5: that's in that tube to drain out, right, so the exit.
Speaker 4: So it was just if the hose is empty and
Speaker 4: it has nothing to draw on, it can only draw
Speaker 4: air down there and then that'll stop exactly. Yeah, So
Speaker 4: I get it. That's that's functionally the way that should work.
Speaker 4: But if you give it a water supply, it's going
Speaker 4: to slowly, which is funny. Oh wow, that is funny.
Speaker 5: I would never have thought of that though, because I
Speaker 5: I drove him crazy.
Speaker 4: I would I would probably still be scratching my head
Speaker 4: over it because I would have never thought to look
Speaker 4: to see how that's designed, like, you know, further onto,
Speaker 4: because why would you think about it beyond you know,
Speaker 4: thispicket if nothing's bulled.
Speaker 5: I mean, and this is an eighteen foot pool, So
Speaker 5: if there was a pinhole in the very bottom and
Speaker 5: water was leaking out the bottom of the pool, you
Speaker 5: wouldn't see it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: The soil that we have here is a real sandy loam,
Speaker 5: and it's water drains through it real quick, right, So
Speaker 5: if it was actually leaked, let's say in the very
Speaker 5: middle of the pool, there was a pinhole in the floor, right,
Speaker 5: and was leaking out there. Well, you wouldn't see a
Speaker 5: wet spot in the yard. I mean, this pool is
Speaker 5: eighteen feet across, right, it's going to soak into the
Speaker 5: ground and keep right on going out. So I'm down
Speaker 5: there with my nose like an inch off the bottom
Speaker 5: of the pool, with this damn thing squirting out red
Speaker 5: water for an hour. You know. I had a breathing
Speaker 5: hose over the side of the pool so I could
Speaker 5: stay down there and I'm squirting red water, and she's
Speaker 5: watching me just as intently, like like, oh, you missed
Speaker 5: a spot, you know, And I thought, God knows, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna go crazy trying to figure out where this damn
Speaker 5: hole is and come to find out it's just going
Speaker 5: right back out the dale hose.
Speaker 4: That's just hilarious. The simplest answer too.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: And then when you remove the hose, never again another problem.
Speaker 4: So there was no other breach.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're on the on the water system. If you
Speaker 5: tell them you have a pool, they take your average
Speaker 5: monthly amount of water before pool season, and then because
Speaker 5: whatever however many gallons of water you use, they also
Speaker 5: charge you a sewer feed. And what they do is
Speaker 5: they take the number of gallons that they figure you
Speaker 5: put in the pool and they don't charge you a
Speaker 5: sewer feed for that. You still pay for the water,
Speaker 5: but you don't have the matching sewer fee to go
Speaker 5: with it. So you have to get on the pool
Speaker 5: list at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 4: I see, Okay, there you go, helpful hints.
Speaker 5: For rural life.
Speaker 4: Why not you know, with all these things going on though?
Speaker 4: You know, it's like, how do you how do you
Speaker 4: stop you know, the electric company from jacking you up
Speaker 4: and everything else?
Speaker 5: I mean you can't.
Speaker 4: It's yes, it's impossible.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Here's this.
Speaker 5: In fact, three months ago, Duke Power came out and said,
Speaker 5: we want an eighteen percent increase statewide. We have a
Speaker 5: utilities commission. Now, the utilities Commission is not here to
Speaker 5: look out for you to make sure you're not getting
Speaker 5: screwed over by whatever utility you are at the mercy
Speaker 5: of Oh hell no, they're there just to set rates
Speaker 5: and approve rate increases and make sure that the that
Speaker 5: they're there to make sure that the utility is not
Speaker 5: screwing the state. They don't care about the citizen, right,
Speaker 5: So Duke Power wanted an eighteen percent increase. Well, they
Speaker 5: turned them down. So Duke Power came with, Okay, we
Speaker 5: need a twelve percent increase, turned them down. Now it's
Speaker 5: sitting right out about nine and a half percent. Well,
Speaker 5: and they're gonna go they're gonna battle over that nine
Speaker 5: and a half percent. But if Duke could go down
Speaker 5: to nine and a half percent, why the hell were
Speaker 5: they asking for eighteen at the beginning. Yeah, because they
Speaker 5: thought they could get it.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 5: It's like, we're gonna try to screw and they've got
Speaker 5: a monopoly here. Let's see here parts of Kentucky, parts
Speaker 5: of South Carolina, parts of Tennessee, parts of Ohio, Illinois.
Speaker 5: They're in about nine states. So I mean, how are
Speaker 5: you gonna, you know, how you're gonna fight something that big?
Speaker 4: You don't. You can't, right, I Mean, that's what it
Speaker 4: comes down to anymore, is if it becomes large enough
Speaker 4: forget it. I think we got Jimmy James back on
Speaker 4: the line, So I'm gonna bring him back and see
Speaker 4: what he's got to say. Hey, Jimmy, you're back. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know. You were just gone and I just
Speaker 4: you know, continued on. I didn't say anything because I
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, I guess you had to go. But
Speaker 4: what else you got?
Speaker 9: Well, clearly the internet guy it was here working on stuff.
Speaker 9: He's done a bang up job. Every ten fifteen minutes,
Speaker 9: the internet just clicks up.
Speaker 4: Oh maybe that was the problem with you disappear and
Speaker 4: maybe your your phone got clipped with it. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Did he give you one of those systems where you
Speaker 5: got to keep turning the switch on? Like the tennis
Speaker 5: court bikes at night run fifteen minutes and that's all
Speaker 5: tennis court do what know you've never seen? Oh Jimmy,
Speaker 5: you haven't lived. Are you ever going to play tennis
Speaker 5: at night? And this may be a weird quest, but
Speaker 5: the town that's all the towns I've grown up in.
Speaker 5: If you go to play tennis at night, they have lights, yep.
Speaker 5: But you have to walk over to the far side
Speaker 5: of the court and turn the knob on the timer.
Speaker 5: And so like every forty five minutes you're in the
Speaker 5: middle of playing. You know, you're trying to get a
Speaker 5: whole set of tennis in, but every forty five minutes
Speaker 5: you got to go over there and turn the light
Speaker 5: timer back or it'll go forty five minutes and then
Speaker 5: shut off.
Speaker 4: It'll shut off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how they control the lights, you know those
Speaker 5: Nobody walks away at night and the lights stay on
Speaker 5: all night long.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 3: I've seen some places where the.
Speaker 9: The craft has had a stinker fan that worked like
Speaker 9: that end of timer.
Speaker 4: See, they used to do that with night basketball in
Speaker 4: the Northeast. Same thing with those timers. You know, it's
Speaker 4: like you literally have to crank it all the way
Speaker 4: around and it stops, and it only goes for like
Speaker 4: you said, forty five minutes to a half hour. I
Speaker 4: think maybe maybe some of them are half hour, but
Speaker 4: that's it. That way, you can't possibly leave the lights
Speaker 4: on and walk away, is the idea.
Speaker 5: Yeah, most of the parks around here had them when
Speaker 5: I was growing up, had him on the basketball courts.
Speaker 5: I had them on the tennis courts, but not on
Speaker 5: the ball field, which used to piss everybody off because
Speaker 5: people would want to play softball at night or something
Speaker 5: like that. Or you get like a church group down
Speaker 5: there and they want to play a game, and if
Speaker 5: you didn't make arrangements and pay a fee, you couldn't
Speaker 5: have lights on the ball field.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you literally had to get somebody to go down
Speaker 4: there and turn nose on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, I guess there was too many lights to
Speaker 5: put on a timer.
Speaker 4: I guess I bet you it was. You know it
Speaker 4: was possible, but that.
Speaker 5: No, they wanted to make the money. That's a lot
Speaker 5: of lights that cost the city a lot of money.
Speaker 5: We need at least fifty bucks something. Yeah, call on
Speaker 5: somebody's pocket.
Speaker 4: You got to pay to play, right, That's true?
Speaker 5: That is true.
Speaker 4: What am I supposed to do? Everybody wants to squeeze
Speaker 4: a bucket everything, and I get it, but damn sometimes
Speaker 4: you know it's.
Speaker 5: Going to get to the point people aren't going to
Speaker 5: have any money to squeeze.
Speaker 4: Well, see, that's what I'm wondering about. You know, eventually
Speaker 4: you hit limits where you know, like McDonald's started to
Speaker 4: discover that a few months ago. Now. They were supposed
Speaker 4: to have adjusted all their prices, but I'm not hearing
Speaker 4: about any grand adjustments. You know, they added a couple
Speaker 4: of value menu items, but they didn't really change the
Speaker 4: overall price for like people going to eat, Like if
Speaker 4: you wanted to like feed your family McDonald's one night,
Speaker 4: it's still a gigantic price. You know, Burger King is
Speaker 4: offering coupons every month. But McDonald's, you know, they were
Speaker 4: addressing this to their stockholders and saying, listen, you know
Speaker 4: we've kind of accidentally priced out a huge portion of
Speaker 4: our regular customers. So have you heard anything about that,
Speaker 4: be Pete, Remember when we brought that up on the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now I haven't since I've quit work. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm not eating fast food as much as I used to.
Speaker 5: But from what I'm from what I'm eating and what
Speaker 5: people are telling me. You know, the price of lunch usually,
Speaker 5: well used to you could go find a seven ninety
Speaker 5: five lunch somewhere at Ruby Tuesdays at the Salad bar,
Speaker 5: or you can go to Western Steer or something like
Speaker 5: that and get the beef tips with onions and peppers
Speaker 5: for seven ninety nine. Well you didn't forget that now, Yeah,
Speaker 5: seven ninety nine. Seven ninety nine might get you a
Speaker 5: drink and a burger at McDonald's.
Speaker 4: Right, you know that's the thing. You need ten bucks
Speaker 4: to get lunch of any kind, you know, at a
Speaker 4: bare minimum, and generally speaking, to be safe, you need
Speaker 4: a twenty dollar bill to buy lunch, yeah, which you
Speaker 4: know is too much. And like I say, I sit
Speaker 4: here and like every once in a while, you know,
Speaker 4: I want to try to, like, you know, get burgers
Speaker 4: or whatever for Frankie and also so you know, Kim
Speaker 4: doesn't have to cook or whatever, and I can't do
Speaker 4: it for like, I cannot feed the three of us
Speaker 4: in any reasonable way for like under thirty bucks.
Speaker 5: Ever, No, there's no way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no way.
Speaker 5: You know. A friend of mine and I went to
Speaker 5: Highway fifty five, which is a hamburger chain that we
Speaker 5: have through here. It used to beat Andy's Burgers, and
Speaker 5: we could go in there. The two of us could
Speaker 5: sit down and grab the cheeseburger fries special and it
Speaker 5: was about eight fifty with tax, it was right around
Speaker 5: nine dollars and that was for your drink, fries, and
Speaker 5: a good sized cheeseburger. Well, we went, this is probably
Speaker 5: three weeks ago. We decided to go grab lunch. Got
Speaker 5: the same thing that we get every time, and it
Speaker 5: was almost eighteen dollars. Yeah, it's crazy. It's I don't
Speaker 5: steaks now, you know, see on some of these steakhouses
Speaker 5: a lone star places like that, you know, twenty six
Speaker 5: dollars for a ribi baked potato and a salad. Well,
Speaker 5: it used to you could get that for seventeen dollars,
Speaker 5: but now it's almost thirty.
Speaker 4: Well, I can't even afford to buy a steak at
Speaker 4: home at this point, you know, again, feeding three people,
Speaker 4: it's impossible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my grocery bill has gone up quite a bit.
Speaker 5: I don't eat a lot of expensive things, but I've
Speaker 5: gotten to where now when I buy meats, if it's
Speaker 5: buy one, get one free, I definitely go and get that,
Speaker 5: or get a family package of something and break it
Speaker 5: down and put it in the freezer.
Speaker 4: And that's your smart move.
Speaker 5: Then, you know, you got to just the only way
Speaker 5: to save money. And now that I'm on a fixed income,
Speaker 5: you know it's I've had I've had to watch pennies.
Speaker 5: Although I did see one item four years at food
Speaker 5: Line you could get two packs of shredded cheese for
Speaker 5: four dollars. Well, now, when COVID hit, it jumped up
Speaker 5: to four twenty five, then it got up to four fifty,
Speaker 5: then it got up to about four seventy five. For
Speaker 5: the first time in five years. They had finally lowered
Speaker 5: the price back down to two for four dollars.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Okay, so some.
Speaker 5: Things are coming down, but it's awfully slow.
Speaker 4: Well, I have I listen. We don't have food lions here,
Speaker 4: and the Pigley Wiggly near me went out of business.
Speaker 4: So uh, they opened some other weird grocery store there.
Speaker 5: That's hard to believe. Man, Pigley Wigglies are so strong here.
Speaker 4: See what I told you. The Pigley Wiggly here was
Speaker 4: actually price gouging in the poor neighborhood because it was
Speaker 4: pretty much the only like close by you got to
Speaker 4: you gotta take a ride to go get to Kroger
Speaker 4: or something, and really the closest next grocery store is Walmart,
Speaker 4: but that's it's ways away. You know, it's not an
Speaker 4: easy taxi oruber ride. And if you don't, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just saying it's easier to pay the
Speaker 4: fee and have that stuff delivered from a Walmart or Kroger.
Speaker 4: At the time, that's true, but Pigley Wiggily was higher
Speaker 4: priced than any of them here, and nobody wanted to
Speaker 4: believe me about it. But now they've actually finally literally
Speaker 4: they've gone out of business. You remember there was a
Speaker 4: Piggley Wiggly just right down the road from me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's gone.
Speaker 5: Wow, that's you know, that's that's hard for me to believe,
Speaker 5: because they really stay strong here. In fact, Giggly Wiggily
Speaker 5: is one of the fewest stores that still has a
Speaker 5: in the house butcher. Food line has all gone to
Speaker 5: prepackaged stuff. They got rid of all their uh, all
Speaker 5: the butchers in the stores. Now we've got a little
Speaker 5: The guy opened the store here in town that was
Speaker 5: a Pigley Wiggly years and years ago, and then they
Speaker 5: moved out. And then with the floods from the Hurricane
Speaker 5: one store, they said, screw it, we built a new store.
Speaker 5: It flooded, We're getting the hell out of it. So
Speaker 5: for the longest time we didn't have grocery store here
Speaker 5: and down. This guy opened this one up I think
Speaker 5: three Christmases ago, and he's he's expensive on most things,
Speaker 5: but his damn cuts of meat. Man, you can go
Speaker 5: in there and spend four dollars and get you know,
Speaker 5: three thick cut pork chops. You can get you know,
Speaker 5: a whole chicken that's been cut and hand rubbed to
Speaker 5: go on the grill for four dollars in something.
Speaker 4: Oh, I can't even approach stuff like that.
Speaker 5: He or No, Yeah, I mean his meat prices. I
Speaker 5: don't know how he's doing it so cheap, but they're
Speaker 5: the best cuts of meat. It's good meat. It's it's
Speaker 5: not you know, it's not the worst of the choice.
Speaker 5: He's getting top of the line. I'd get a whole
Speaker 5: rack of ribs for seventeen dollars a full rack, and
Speaker 5: that's cheap.
Speaker 4: That's almost that's almost organized crime prices right there, be
Speaker 4: beat up.
Speaker 5: Down you now. Yeah, it's like falling off the top. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so I'll spend a little more. We've got a dollar General.
Speaker 5: We've got the grocery store just down the road. We've
Speaker 5: got another dollar General. If I want to go seven
Speaker 5: miles down the road, I've got a food line in
Speaker 5: a Pigley Wiggy that I can go to and save money.
Speaker 5: But still, you know, just keeping stuff here local, trying
Speaker 5: to support this guy. I'd rather give him my business
Speaker 5: and keep a grocery store here so that you can
Speaker 5: run down there, you know, when you're getting ready to
Speaker 5: fix Oh god, I need flour, I can go get flour, right,
Speaker 5: you know, instead of having to run eight miles down
Speaker 5: the road to get to another town. So it's worth
Speaker 5: paying the little bit extra that you pay him, and
Speaker 5: occasionally he gets stuff in there, like Stofer's meals and stuff.
Speaker 5: He's got some in there that are costing three twenty five,
Speaker 5: which cost you four fifty anywhere else. So he does
Speaker 5: have some deals periodically, but for his meats. Hell, I'll
Speaker 5: overpay for everything to get price that I'm getting all
Speaker 5: the meats down there. You just can't beat it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Jimmy, what is the big grocery store?
Speaker 8: When are you?
Speaker 9: I wouldn't know. I go to Dollar Generals.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well a lot of people are doing what you're doing, Jimmy.
Speaker 4: You know, just going and shopping at Dollar General or
Speaker 4: Family Dollars still, you know, and just using their grocery
Speaker 4: section because they have like smaller things in there, and
Speaker 4: you know, you can get stuff a little cheaper because
Speaker 4: it's in a smaller bag and this kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's weird though. Here our Dollar General has got
Speaker 5: a pretty good refrigerated frozen food section. But when you
Speaker 5: go over to Aiden and you go in their Dollar General,
Speaker 5: they're frozen foods and refrigerated foods are next to nothing.
Speaker 5: I mean they have no space whatsoever. But they got
Speaker 5: a shit ton of everything else.
Speaker 4: You see Aiden is probably in a better neighbor Aiden
Speaker 4: is a better neighborhood than where you are though, right.
Speaker 5: Right, And they're right next to the food line.
Speaker 4: Okay, well so they know, you.
Speaker 5: Know, people are going to go through their grocery shopping
Speaker 5: and food line. But I buy my coffee from Dollar General.
Speaker 5: It's cheaper than what I can get at food line now,
Speaker 5: and food line cut out the dark roast that I
Speaker 5: used to buy of their own brand. And I'm not
Speaker 5: spending twenty bucks for coffee when I can get it
Speaker 5: for twelve dollars. Yeah, that Dollar General.
Speaker 4: That's something that's gone up too is coffee.
Speaker 5: Oh, coffee is through the nose now.
Speaker 4: I mean it's brutal, you know. And that's like one
Speaker 4: of the that's one of missus O's fuels. There is coffee.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I drink it all day. You know, if
Speaker 5: I only had a cup of day, I wouldn't care
Speaker 5: that my my ten pack of cake cups has gone
Speaker 5: up a dollar. Oh dear, you know, I drink I
Speaker 5: drink coffee all day long. So I'm making you know,
Speaker 5: six or seven cups, so it adds up. I'm not
Speaker 5: going to spend twenty dollars on something that I can
Speaker 5: get something that I like the taste of for twelve dollars, right.
Speaker 4: No, it, but but it's still it has gone up
Speaker 4: exponentially though, Oh it has.
Speaker 5: If you're buying any kind of brand coffee from Folders
Speaker 5: Maxwell House, all of it is expensive. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean just almost double and priced some of it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, so, and forge I don't.
Speaker 5: See how people with families, I don't see how they
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, that's the thing is, when I'm sitting here
Speaker 4: dealing with the three of us, it's sort of like
Speaker 4: I can make cuts if it was just for one
Speaker 4: of us or two of us. But there's certain problems
Speaker 4: of trying to feed three people that.
Speaker 5: It's like, well, especially when you got a kid too,
Speaker 5: you just don't want to feed them junk. You want
Speaker 5: to feed them something that's you know, some semblance of healthy.
Speaker 4: Well, and the other problem there is that when he
Speaker 4: goes through a growth spurg because now he's you know,
Speaker 4: he's gotten bigger since the last time you saw him.
Speaker 4: He's he's taller than his mom by a shot now,
Speaker 4: you know, and like, so he's grown quite a bit,
Speaker 4: and sometimes he just like go was on an eating
Speaker 4: bitch for a bit and just eats every damn thing. Like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'll go out there and I'll be like,
Speaker 4: what happened to the bread? You know, I had a
Speaker 4: half a loaf of bread? I ate some bread. You
Speaker 4: ate half a loaf of bread for what? Well? I
Speaker 4: was hungry, okay, but what about the other ten things
Speaker 4: you ate? You know, like it just he goes through
Speaker 4: these time periods where he's just freaking hungry because he's growing.
Speaker 4: And I do remember that sort of vaguely when I
Speaker 4: was a kid. Other guys who definitely had more access
Speaker 4: to food, But there were times when I was spending
Speaker 4: a lot of money on food, you know. I mean
Speaker 4: I would buy takeout food, and I would go sit
Speaker 4: in restaurants myself and stuff. But I was making money.
Speaker 4: But even when I was still growing a bit in
Speaker 4: my teen years, Yeah, there were times when it was
Speaker 4: like I could eat almost twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Well, that's like being in the military. You know, my
Speaker 5: dad was retired maybe so he still had base privileges
Speaker 5: after he retired, right, so you know up the road
Speaker 5: thirty miles was Air Force base. We could go there
Speaker 5: and go to the commissary. You had the commissary, which
Speaker 5: was your grocery store, and then you had the exchange,
Speaker 5: which was kind of like your best buy. They had
Speaker 5: your clothes. It kind of like your Walmart clothes, electronics stuff, clocks, raisers,
Speaker 5: you know all that stuff. Well, now on base you
Speaker 5: can still find some good deals in the exchange and
Speaker 5: save quite a bit of money, TVs things like that.
Speaker 5: But I was talking with my brother who is retired Coastguard,
Speaker 5: so he's got base privileges. They've stopped going to the
Speaker 5: commissary because the prices in the commissary are just as
Speaker 5: high as they are on the outside. So why drive
Speaker 5: thirty miles, Yeah, just to go to the commissary when
Speaker 5: you spend the same thing at home, and.
Speaker 4: That was never the case.
Speaker 5: You know, the military base is always cheaper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean people used to give money to, you know,
Speaker 4: guys that were going to the military base to get
Speaker 4: me this, you know what I mean, especially if you
Speaker 4: had a need for something bigger. I mean one of
Speaker 4: the big things. A long time ago, when they still
Speaker 4: sold cigarettes on bases. I don't know if they still do,
Speaker 4: but when they sold cigarettes on base, there was no
Speaker 4: tax on them.
Speaker 5: That was yeah, oh yeah, that was the biggest thing.
Speaker 5: And you get those of the exchange, not at the Commissary.
Speaker 5: But yeah, my brother will still go up there to
Speaker 5: the exchange because you know, if he's looking for a
Speaker 5: certain item, sometimes you get it cheaper there then you
Speaker 5: can on Amazon or something like that. Right, but for groceries,
Speaker 5: I asked him. I see he said no, he said,
Speaker 5: we quit messing with the commissary. He says, the prices
Speaker 5: down in here are just as cheap. Basis has gotten
Speaker 5: that bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah. See, that's that's way out of whack because every
Speaker 4: time I knew people that went to it, it was
Speaker 4: like they always came back with stuff like way cheaper,
Speaker 4: everything way cheaper somehow, you know. So but uh anyways, yeah,
Speaker 4: well what time is it? Anyway? I didn't even check.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, we got about a half hour left, looks like,
Speaker 4: but uh okay, I was just double checking on the time.
Speaker 4: So Jimmy, you got anything else on your mind?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: No, okay, fair enough, anybody else that wants to join
Speaker 4: us here for this last half hour the open mic
Speaker 4: night though, three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 4: one six that's always the number to call, and you know,
Speaker 4: I'd like to see some feedback from you guys about
Speaker 4: uh about last night's show, if you know, if you
Speaker 4: get a chance to pick up the podcast, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: And uh, I'm probably gonna put out some videos of
Speaker 4: a couple other things that I'm going to offer to
Speaker 4: mail out to people if they want to buy them,
Speaker 4: uh from me, I'm getting rid of a whole lot
Speaker 4: of JFK related stuff, but some other things as well,
Speaker 4: including the last of the merch I have Chelly Effect
Speaker 4: merch stuff. And you know what else I dug up
Speaker 4: accidentally is a whole bunch of my artwork from years
Speaker 4: ago when I did the Blind Guy with Black Ink
Speaker 4: thing and I was selling you guys some of my sketches.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna put videos out with all that stuff
Speaker 4: and be like, Hey, anybody still want any of this crap,
Speaker 4: Let's go more than happy to exchange it for some money,
Speaker 4: you know. Just to keep the lights on, which, by
Speaker 4: the way, they were off earlier today, but we did
Speaker 4: get them back on. We managed to get the lights
Speaker 4: back on here at the house because almost wasn't gonna
Speaker 4: be able to do the show tonight. But anyway, I'm
Speaker 4: on the pay as you go system over here, which
Speaker 4: I'm not fond of, but I can't seem to get
Speaker 4: off it either anyways, So those things are going on.
Speaker 4: I also have some like magazines from the sixties, Look Magazine,
Speaker 4: what do you call it? The Saturday Evening Post, a
Speaker 4: bunch of things that are JFK related to All those
Speaker 4: photographs are pretty much gone, but I have lots and
Speaker 4: lots of books, which I'm going to start digging up
Speaker 4: and offering out the better ones, I guess to people,
Speaker 4: because you know, cheap books are going to do me
Speaker 4: no good because they're going to cost me more to
Speaker 4: ship than anything. Because that's another crazy thing, is shipping
Speaker 4: costs or way the hell up me, Pete, I don't
Speaker 4: know if you know that. Oh yeah, but do you
Speaker 4: try to ship anything? I mean, I've defaulted now to
Speaker 4: just I've got a bunch of flat rate shipping things,
Speaker 4: and I'm just going to send stuff priority because I mean,
Speaker 4: they killed me on sending out you know, a Manila
Speaker 4: envelope with photographs in it? Sure you know, over twenty
Speaker 4: dollars for a Manila envelope stuffed with photographs. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's crazy. Within the United States and in some cases
Speaker 4: only sending stuff to Florida or Texas from Georgia. I mean, damn,
Speaker 4: twenty five bucks for a Manila envelope full of anything?
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? I'm not going to flat rate envelope. Yeah,
Speaker 4: go ahead.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised when we start seeing the post
Speaker 5: Office saying now we're going to start cutting every other
Speaker 5: day deliveries.
Speaker 4: Or something. Something is coming new new cuts to the
Speaker 4: post Office. I don't know what it's going to be,
Speaker 4: but well, yeah, I believe that's coming up too. I mean,
Speaker 4: and and there's still a push to privatize it, by
Speaker 4: the way, which I know with the disaster, you know,
Speaker 4: well I look at.
Speaker 5: It, you know, I spend.
Speaker 3: They're one of the few things that's actually mentioned in
Speaker 3: the Constitution that the government actually does have to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. That is true. They are one of
Speaker 4: those few government agencies that is actually there.
Speaker 5: And there's yeah, we got twenty seven that we don't need,
Speaker 5: but they can't run the one that they are supposed to.
Speaker 4: It kills me, of course, you know, but that's that's
Speaker 4: that's good enough for government work. As they used to say, right, Jimmy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the motto of the bureaucracy.
Speaker 4: There you go. Sorry, I don't mean to agree with
Speaker 4: them or anything. I'm actually just saying in a mocking way.
Speaker 4: But no, it's the most ridiculous thing. And I don't know.
Speaker 4: I used to hear people complain about the post office,
Speaker 4: and quite frankly, I thought it functioned pretty well, you know,
Speaker 4: before the year two thousand, for sure, but even in
Speaker 4: the early two thousands it functioned pretty damn well from
Speaker 4: almost every time I used it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I've only gotten involved in wacky weirdness ever since, you know,
Speaker 4: like like that package I had sent back to me
Speaker 4: for no reason where you know, they told me I
Speaker 4: didn't pay no postage, and meanwhile I went to the
Speaker 4: counter and had them put the damn postage on it.
Speaker 4: How the hell with the postage?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I gotta I gotta commend you on
Speaker 5: not making that a you know, a front page item,
Speaker 5: because if it had been me, he has seen it
Speaker 5: on your six o'clock news.
Speaker 4: I mean, because at the end of the day, right,
Speaker 4: they still returned it to me, and effectively, what they
Speaker 4: are they gonna give me a free shipment. Are they
Speaker 4: gonna fix it that they're not? There is no solution
Speaker 4: to that. It's just, you know, let me double check
Speaker 4: and make sure this doesn't get sent back to me
Speaker 4: a second time. Genius over there in the postal uniform. Uh,
Speaker 4: but tell me what I did wrong, because I don't
Speaker 4: get it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if it had been me, you'd have seen footage
Speaker 5: on the six o'clock news of me marching some postal
Speaker 5: employee out with the nozzle of a fire extinguisher taped
Speaker 5: to his head, and it's like, if you guys don't
Speaker 5: send this damn thing, I'm gonna freeze this guy's noggin off.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm serious. I would have gone postal, literally
Speaker 5: gone postal over that. You know, that's an expression we
Speaker 5: haven't heard in a long time. No, it's going postal.
Speaker 4: It's actually one of those like political incorrect things. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's been being to postal workers.
Speaker 5: You know, I know they're the ones that created it, right,
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 4: You know I was explained, you know, I was explaining
Speaker 4: that to somebody because they used some old phrase. Oh
Speaker 4: I know what it was.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 4: I was talking to the guy who I did the
Speaker 4: show with last night and before we did the show,
Speaker 4: he said something about, you know, people say stuff like
Speaker 4: it must be something in the water, and I think
Speaker 4: they're right, and I went, yeah, but see, here's the
Speaker 4: thing about that. There was a reason why that phrase
Speaker 4: came to be in the first place, because it used
Speaker 4: to be there was something in the damn water, because
Speaker 4: the whole community would get affected because we all shared
Speaker 4: centralized water sources, right, So if the whole community was affected,
Speaker 4: somebody might go, well, damn, it must be something in
Speaker 4: the water. Because it was the one common link. It
Speaker 4: made sense. And then it didn't make sense to be well,
Speaker 4: and it sounded like an archaic, you know, thing from
Speaker 4: an old fashioned phrase or whatever, but it's still actually
Speaker 4: fairly ethical. It makes sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like the old phrase mad as a hatter,
Speaker 5: uh huh, And it's like, where the hell did that
Speaker 5: come from. Well, back when they used to make hats
Speaker 5: out of beaver skin and things like that, they would
Speaker 5: treat it with chemicals and formaldehyde and stuff like that, right,
Speaker 5: and it would actually drive people crazy. So mad as
Speaker 5: a hatter meant that you're as crazy as someone that's
Speaker 5: been working in a hat haberdashery. And the man finally
Speaker 5: went nuts. I mean there's yeah, there's a reason behind
Speaker 5: those things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they treated skins and things with you know,
Speaker 4: arsenic and all kinds of weird stuff where people would
Speaker 4: get poisoned and yeah, and they'd start to a crazy
Speaker 4: because they were actually deranged from poisoning soaking into their
Speaker 4: systems from the damn hat they were wearing. So mad
Speaker 4: as a hatter is actually a sensible Yeah. People think
Speaker 4: it comes from outs in Wonderland, and it's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: it actually comes. Yeah, go ahead, Jimmy.
Speaker 9: To cut full with mercury.
Speaker 4: Mercury. That was one of the big problems. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 4: this in the this, oh oh.
Speaker 3: I'm going in order and in search of the alternator,
Speaker 3: I'll be in the general neighborhood of that mk ultrac
Speaker 3: or no not mkul absolully. I mean now the guy
Speaker 3: that the area fifty one guy, should I dropped in
Speaker 3: on him?
Speaker 4: Or what the area fifty one guy? Wait? Which area
Speaker 4: fifty one guy?
Speaker 5: The first one?
Speaker 9: The only reason why we even talk about know about
Speaker 9: it at this point, that one dude.
Speaker 4: Oh really, why not, Jimmy, as long as it look
Speaker 4: recorded for me, will you? Because I would love to
Speaker 4: hear an interaction between you that guy.
Speaker 1: But you won't believe this.
Speaker 9: So that guy, what's his name? I can't think of
Speaker 9: her right now. He drives a corvette that literally says
Speaker 9: something crazy like h oh, Majestic twelve or something MK
Speaker 9: twelve or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 9: Right, what is that guy said?
Speaker 3: Way ways, even though the government says he's crazy, YadA YadA, YadA,
Speaker 3: guess what, he is a high tech company and they
Speaker 3: still do business with him.
Speaker 9: So they must not think you're too crazy. I would
Speaker 9: love to interview that dude.
Speaker 4: Well, look, if you interview it, record it. We'll play
Speaker 4: it right here. I promise you. I guarantee you. I
Speaker 4: will play that interview if you can record it onto
Speaker 4: a digital me you know, a digital conveyance, I will
Speaker 4: play it right here on the show.
Speaker 5: And you know who else.
Speaker 9: Lives in that area? General areas those Rowan Oak gu
Speaker 9: Island crazy guys. This guy's obsessed with rowing on really
Speaker 9: like maybe the track boil them down? Say what's up
Speaker 9: with you in that island?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 4: Okay, go for it. What can I tell you?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: All I got to tell you is just make sure
Speaker 4: you tape everything you do is.
Speaker 5: It Bob Lazar?
Speaker 4: I thought that's who he was thinking of.
Speaker 5: Yeh, Area fifty guy.
Speaker 9: Bob Lazaar's the guy for the Area fifty one guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, hey, we've got another caller though, Jimmy. But
Speaker 4: believe me, I make sure you record that stuff and
Speaker 4: send it to me somehow and we will play it
Speaker 4: on here. I guarantee that I want to take the
Speaker 4: other caller see what's on his mind though, because we
Speaker 4: got about got about twenty minutes left. So h let's
Speaker 4: get to it and see what our other caller has
Speaker 4: to say. If I can get over here, there we go,
Speaker 4: computer cooperating. Thank you. Yeah, it looks like Danny from
Speaker 4: California is on the phone. Danny's good evening. Hey, good evening.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to have you along. I guess you, uh
Speaker 4: you woke up from your nap in time to call
Speaker 4: in this time.
Speaker 5: I didn't get an app Oh not a chasing cat?
Speaker 1: Jass you all children. I was like, it's like chasing
Speaker 1: gat oh.
Speaker 4: Oh hurt okay, it's like herding cats, right right right, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Should say hurting cats. That's a proper perfect arm here
Speaker 1: I got. I just pulled myself a stiff when I'll
Speaker 1: be in bed here in a little bit. Hey, a
Speaker 1: topic that that I want to talk about. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a stress test and uh share you think about
Speaker 1: the financial collapse in two thousand and eight, When did
Speaker 1: when did that start? That started in the eighties with
Speaker 1: a lot of b regulations and we had had the
Speaker 1: savings and loan crisis, but also to in the meantime
Speaker 1: started the big build up of the military industrial complex.
Speaker 1: K Street took over the flock. Obvious they've dominated both
Speaker 1: political parties and this Iran war is very extremely concerning.
Speaker 1: I think this has been a war of choice. It's
Speaker 1: not very well thought out, and it's really exposed if
Speaker 1: you look at it as a stress test where we're
Speaker 1: at because the Iranians have these Sharat drones and they're
Speaker 1: what cost you maybe fifteen to twenty thousand dollars a bill,
Speaker 1: and we get these intercept missiles that costs from one
Speaker 1: to four million dollars in estimates, and we're limiting our
Speaker 1: capability and they're striking all over the Middle East. This
Speaker 1: is not going to go good.
Speaker 4: See now this has been I was a bad guy
Speaker 4: for bringing up something very similar to this, where I said, look,
Speaker 4: they're using very cheap drones in comparison to the more
Speaker 4: expensive weaponry that either US or Israel is utilizing. If
Speaker 4: they can even remotely compete with us attrition over time,
Speaker 4: the amount of money that it's going to cost us,
Speaker 4: it's like watching what happened to the Soviet Union, where
Speaker 4: you know, they invested so much money into the arms
Speaker 4: race that you know a lot of people argue that's
Speaker 4: what broke them was the arms race. Right, Well, if
Speaker 4: we get involved in a real time race, but yeah.
Speaker 1: A conflict. But also to remember in the eighties, the
Speaker 1: Saudis flooded the oil market, right, the Soviets relied on
Speaker 1: that oil revenue. In fact, that caused the US to
Speaker 1: cap the Wells and Texas. So, yeah, the arms races,
Speaker 1: it's and we're asking for another half five hundred billion
Speaker 1: dollars more. I mean, this is absurd.
Speaker 4: Well, and that's the thing is that just through attrition,
Speaker 4: if we continue to engage in this and we're shooting
Speaker 4: you know, one hundred thousand dollars million dollar weapons, okay
Speaker 4: at a clip, and these guys are using twenty thousand
Speaker 4: dollars drones, it just seems to me like, you know,
Speaker 4: even though our revenue is a lot larger, we're going
Speaker 4: to be spending at an exponential rate compared to the
Speaker 4: combatants that we're dealing with. And that becomes a problem
Speaker 4: that nobody wants to face. You know, when it comes
Speaker 4: to modern warfare, is that if you have that kind
Speaker 4: of a cost differential, Okay, unless the Chinese are going
Speaker 4: to step in and give and give somebody dirt cheap technology,
Speaker 4: which I don't think it'll be us that they'll give
Speaker 4: it to. You know, that's how you tip the scale
Speaker 4: is by attrition and financial And I brought this up
Speaker 4: when this first happened, that you know, if you're utilizing
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and if they're triggering stuff like the
Speaker 4: Iron Dome in Israel, right, which is an expensive bit
Speaker 4: of technology, if you're triggering that, but you're using cheap
Speaker 4: ass drones to do it, and you're also engaging with
Speaker 4: you know, many millions of dollars worth of hardware that's
Speaker 4: shooting again millions of dollars worth of munitions, and you're
Speaker 4: doing it with twenty thousand dollars pieces of technology, you know,
Speaker 4: where you could literally you know, put out fifty to one, right,
Speaker 4: It becomes a problem. It's mathematics is the issue. You know,
Speaker 4: forget about what's right and wrong. It's a matter of
Speaker 4: somebody's going to run out of money here, and somebody's
Speaker 4: going to run out of resources, and you know, if
Speaker 4: you're spending it like that, it's sort of like, you know, hey, look,
Speaker 4: I can go on five family vacations for one hundred
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. Great, Well you can go on one big
Speaker 4: vacation for a million dollars. But if I'm going to
Speaker 4: try and go out on five more and I spend
Speaker 4: a million dollars each time, somebody's going to run low
Speaker 4: on their bank account faster than the other person, aren't they?
Speaker 4: You know, So I don't know, man, You know, I
Speaker 4: brought that up and it was sort of like shut
Speaker 4: down everywhere, went and tried to talk about it.
Speaker 1: But well, we're on the same we're basically kind of
Speaker 1: on the same page or seeing the same thing. And
Speaker 1: what I was trying to make is a comparison like
Speaker 1: a stress test.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Even they're saying, hey, all the banking, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: all the everything was fine, but in reality it wasn't
Speaker 1: you know this thing. You know, they're begging for that
Speaker 1: kind of money. And I heard some of the military
Speaker 1: generals not not the guy who wants to test faster
Speaker 1: in place therapy actually knows, you know, strategy and war
Speaker 1: and you know, how are you going to do the
Speaker 1: long term? We got some serious problems coming up, and
Speaker 1: I don't think we're in the mood for this. By
Speaker 1: the way, is when is one of the Trump's going
Speaker 1: to go fight for war?
Speaker 4: Yeah, good luck on that.
Speaker 1: When are you gonna put Baron in there? He's he's fighting.
Speaker 4: Age, Well, he's fighting age. He's a pretty tall kid.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know what, what can you say?
Speaker 4: I'm always asking when are the people that you know
Speaker 4: make the decisions about the warfare going to send their
Speaker 4: own children in? They usually don't, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 4: but here we go, you know, it becomes it becomes
Speaker 4: the issue of well, you know, let's just say there
Speaker 4: is a moral imperative to this. I'm not even assuming
Speaker 4: that there is, because I don't believe there is. That's
Speaker 4: my point of view, but I'm not looking to argue
Speaker 4: it right now. Let's just assume that there is. There
Speaker 4: is simply a reality here. Like I said, it's mathematics
Speaker 4: it's a matter of really more than anything, it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's a matter of geometry, because just exponentially, you cannot
Speaker 4: do something without end There has to be you know,
Speaker 4: limitations here, and I mean, if you want to spend
Speaker 4: for the next twenty years again on another you know,
Speaker 4: let's call it another war on terror. I don't think
Speaker 4: it panned out all that well, being in Afghanistan for
Speaker 4: a couple of decades, you know, I mean, I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: what did we get back for it. We didn't get
Speaker 4: back oil, We didn't get back you know, gained significantly
Speaker 4: in the region. It doesn't seem like and I think
Speaker 4: this will be even less profitable and maybe more costly,
Speaker 4: because as we have been talking about this whole show,
Speaker 4: everything costs more anyway, and the only winners are going
Speaker 4: to be the people that manufacture this stuff.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, excellon and mobile there. They've made record profits
Speaker 1: this quarter, of course, they did record profits.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, because if you believe for a moment, yeah,
Speaker 4: if you believe for a moment that the oil industry
Speaker 4: is charging you what they charge you because of the
Speaker 4: market conditions and it's necessary, you're out of your mind.
Speaker 4: They are outpacing as per usual, the actual cost of
Speaker 4: inflation as always, and they're driving inflation, you know, and
Speaker 4: still maintaining a velocity by which they're still so profitable
Speaker 4: for their shareholders that they're well ahead of the game.
Speaker 4: So you know, tell me again how this is supposed
Speaker 4: to work. And like I said, they're one of the
Speaker 4: main drivers of the inflation, and still they're beating inflation
Speaker 4: as far as the money they're taking in. So you
Speaker 4: mean to tell me they couldn't, you know, somehow reset
Speaker 4: or tone back some of these profits are making, you know,
Speaker 4: on the retail end.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 4: And I saw that when you know, when the things happened,
Speaker 4: when nine to eleven happened, I watched. I watched it
Speaker 4: occur like in real time, like I said, ninety days
Speaker 4: before any effect was to be had on the supply,
Speaker 4: all this stuff jacked up ten cents a day. Ten
Speaker 4: cents a day doesn't sound like a lot, but ten
Speaker 4: cents a day for two weeks jacked up the oil
Speaker 4: price and jacked up the gas price. And you know,
Speaker 4: this is when we went from a dollar in something
Speaker 4: or under a dollar for a gallon of gas to
Speaker 4: now the reality of there's no way it ever goes
Speaker 4: below two or three dollars. Again, is when that happened,
Speaker 4: you know, and they did it well ahead of any
Speaker 4: real world effect on the supply.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I paid three seventy four a gallon to three
Speaker 5: seventy four. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: You can't you can't find three seventy four in California.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan, he's lamping because you're in California.
Speaker 5: Well, hey, would you live in you know, Soviet West?
Speaker 5: I mean, you guys are the reason that your gas
Speaker 5: is six and seven dollars a gallon is because of
Speaker 5: why the crap that you got to deal with? What?
Speaker 1: Why are you the reason why I'm.
Speaker 5: Your regulations for one? What? Seriously the bootique blends in
Speaker 5: that that they have to run out there, that jack's
Speaker 5: the cost up because we don't have the facilities. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, so you look at that, you look at
Speaker 5: the added taxes. You know, every municipality wants their gas tax,
Speaker 5: and then you've got your general sales tax and then
Speaker 5: your state gas tax. I mean, it just it come.
Speaker 5: It's a compound effect, and it's going to drop it.
Speaker 5: It's going to knock it up there too, to seven
Speaker 5: bucks a gallon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there there's a lot of factors. And one
Speaker 1: of the things is is one of the things in
Speaker 1: California is we have three major basins and if we
Speaker 1: didn't have the blended and the commissions controls, it would
Speaker 1: just go look at the smog in the forties in
Speaker 1: the early fifties. I mean, oh absolutely, gay words. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the reason why we have it. And some of
Speaker 1: it and some of it is it's a combination of
Speaker 1: a lot of things. But you know, compared as far
Speaker 1: as the taxes that that's not the main issues. The
Speaker 1: main issues the lens and also too our refining capacity
Speaker 1: and guess what, supply and demand. The three ways are full,
Speaker 1: the gas stations are full. I mean that that that's
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of different factors.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. Federal law.
Speaker 1: Look, it was so pretty much capitals out here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the federal law, if you wanted to, you
Speaker 4: could go into a regular gas station if they know
Speaker 4: what they're doing and they have people that you know,
Speaker 4: actually know how to run a gas station. If it's
Speaker 4: not fully automated, you can request to see a bill
Speaker 4: of lading and you can see precisely what the taxes
Speaker 4: are and everything that are on every gallon of gas,
Speaker 4: because you know, in New Jersey, as I've stated on
Speaker 4: this program, you know, thirty two point nine cents was
Speaker 4: the total per gallon, and that was everything. And that's
Speaker 4: why you see nine tenths on the signs all over
Speaker 4: the country. Is because a couple of federal taxes come
Speaker 4: together and it's like point two and point seven cents
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 5: Right, but you take somewhere as big as California and
Speaker 5: you throw on it. Well, just look at transportation costs
Speaker 5: from moving gasoline. Okay, it's all handled by unions, which
Speaker 5: is going to inflate the price. The cost of transportation
Speaker 5: is up everywhere. That's gonna affect the price. Well, don't
Speaker 5: you can drive a tractor trader here cheaper than you
Speaker 5: can drive a tractor trader in California?
Speaker 4: Well maybe, but I don't know what. I don't know
Speaker 4: what the logistics are for distribution out there either.
Speaker 5: Uh, well, didn't Danny. Didn't they just close down a
Speaker 5: big refinery or something?
Speaker 1: They actually they closed down to one closed Okay, one
Speaker 1: was closed down because they actually had a fire. Okay,
Speaker 1: one was set closed down a long time ago. Another
Speaker 1: one was the Blair of one and they closed down.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing they were they were found guilty
Speaker 1: of twenty years of cheating on the air commissioned so
Speaker 1: they wanted, you know, to find them and they told, uh, California,
Speaker 1: you need to pay for the upgrades. And they told
Speaker 1: them to stick it. And then what they did is
Speaker 1: they they found that two tax I think two tax gimmicks.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make more money by writing off the closes
Speaker 1: down and you know, they know that they're gonna ship
Speaker 1: it in and we're still gonna buy it at a
Speaker 1: higher price.
Speaker 5: Well, because you know, just look at the cost of
Speaker 5: operating the ports to get it in and get it out.
Speaker 5: You know what those environment Do you have any idea
Speaker 5: with another There's not gonna be a there's not gonna
Speaker 5: be a steep decline.
Speaker 1: There's still gonna be profitable and we're gonna pay the price.
Speaker 1: Right with a multiple thing, I mean, I mean you
Speaker 1: could you could point one thing, there's four thingers pointing
Speaker 1: to the other direction. It's not just one simply one thing.
Speaker 4: Well, no, I was gonna and I was going to
Speaker 4: point out something. If you had something shut down after
Speaker 4: it was challenged because of like a long period of
Speaker 4: environmental environmental violations. Let me tell you something, the structure
Speaker 4: of those violations is so harsh. Uh, Like even running
Speaker 4: a gas station, just a gas station, you could be
Speaker 4: fined up to ten thousand dollars a day if you
Speaker 4: don't have a proper log okay, keeping track up, I
Speaker 4: get it. Yeah, And that's just to keep track of
Speaker 4: the amount of gas.
Speaker 5: Not only that, Not only that. Look at the cost
Speaker 5: of just emissions in California. We went before I divorced,
Speaker 5: we went and bought a sea do boat, but I
Speaker 5: bought one with California level emissions because when I got
Speaker 5: ready to sell it, being able to be used a
Speaker 5: state of California it's worth more. So sure we bought
Speaker 5: the one that met the California emissions. It cost me
Speaker 5: an extra four hundred and fifty dollars for that boat
Speaker 5: because of the changes that they had to make to
Speaker 5: meet California admissions. And this is on a three cylinder
Speaker 5: engine inside of a boat, fuel injected. It's not a
Speaker 5: small problem. It's mad, you know, a little seade run about.
Speaker 5: And it cost me an extra four one hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty bucks just to be able to meet those emissions.
Speaker 5: So look at what that's costing every vehicle out there,
Speaker 5: every vehicle, every trolley. What are they getting ready to
Speaker 5: out aren't they getting ready to put a moratorium on
Speaker 5: trucks that are of a certain age. They can't operate
Speaker 5: in California anymore because of a mission.
Speaker 1: Also, there's also been tax incentives to give the operators,
Speaker 1: like tax break speak.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're trying to.
Speaker 1: Get rid of older trucks. It's just like the missions
Speaker 1: that you do even with cars. They're trying to get
Speaker 1: rid of gross spoiters.
Speaker 3: It gets stricter.
Speaker 4: So anyway, look we're down to the last couple of
Speaker 4: minutes here, guys. So fortunately I got to sort of
Speaker 4: end this conversation because Aaron Brawns is ready and waiting
Speaker 4: in the wings. He's even gone into the Ocelli chat room, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, we got operating again. If you're hearing
Speaker 4: us live, or even if not, you can always roll
Speaker 4: it back. But the Ocelli chat room is again working.
Speaker 4: I still haven't been able to clear up the code
Speaker 4: problem for putting it on the website right, but I
Speaker 4: got it back to working, big old pain in the neck.
Speaker 4: I redid the code and it works. I don't know why,
Speaker 4: but it's not working to stick on the website like
Speaker 4: it should still. But anyway, it is available for everybody
Speaker 4: to use. So there's a link. If you go to
Speaker 4: the Listen Live page, you can find it and click
Speaker 4: on it and go to the chat room. But anyway,
Speaker 4: so Danny, go ahead and throw us a final word,
Speaker 4: and I'll try and get back around to Jimmy James
Speaker 4: and then close this out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, well, thank you for letting me, let me on
Speaker 1: and chat. And I appreciate EP because you are making
Speaker 1: good points that there are things to look at why
Speaker 1: it is hiring California, and but I just you know,
Speaker 1: just look at the stress test. I think we're under
Speaker 1: a lot of stress tests, and I think it's really
Speaker 1: looking in that way what our military is doing and
Speaker 1: how effect how effective it is, and what these contractors
Speaker 1: are they really get, you know, they just walking away
Speaker 1: with money and we're just you know, we're least effective military.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have the most expensive military. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure we're getting the bang for the buck that makes sense.
Speaker 4: That's always the big question. Anyway, Danny, thanks a lot
Speaker 4: for joining us. I appreciate you man, and you know
Speaker 4: you and I'll probably talk off air again soon, Jimmy James. Okay, Jimmy,
Speaker 4: I want to give you the final word, so go ahead.
Speaker 9: Well, as far as your two's drone concerns, worry not,
Speaker 9: my friends. The gifver had these things.
Speaker 3: Figured out forty five forty seven halfen years ago, and
Speaker 3: while we didn't continue Star Wars and only did the
Speaker 3: missile part, don't worry. Our allies in Israel have been
Speaker 3: working on the laser parts and have been quite effective,
Speaker 3: and they share their technology with us, so it works
Speaker 3: out pretty nicely. So we could shoot those damn drones
Speaker 3: like they're nothing, and bless our completely voluntary military force.
Speaker 3: And may God have mercy on the ten percent of
Speaker 3: the Iran that actually supports that God forsake of government,
Speaker 3: because it's highly likely that they are soon to die
Speaker 3: and they won't be going to heaven to see seventy
Speaker 3: one virgins.
Speaker 9: They're going straight to hell, Hell.
Speaker 4: Hell.
Speaker 3: But other than that, everyone have a good weekend.
Speaker 9: Other than the Mulas and the Abadullahs.
Speaker 8: And the.
Speaker 9: Soup and swaters.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 9: It's America.
Speaker 11: There you go.
Speaker 4: Jimmy, appreciate you, thanks for calling in, and nobody can
Speaker 4: give a final parting word like Jimmy, but I'll give
Speaker 4: a chance to be Pete to drop the last one
Speaker 4: here before we're done.
Speaker 5: Well, I just want to thank everybody, Daddy and Jimmy
Speaker 5: for calling in and you know, looking forward to doing
Speaker 5: this next week.
Speaker 3: Do what you can to help out your your local
Speaker 3: food banks.
Speaker 5: People are really starting to feel the squeeze, so do
Speaker 5: what you can to help them out. Of course, go
Speaker 5: to a Teli dot com and donate button. And a
Speaker 5: story that I'm working on. And this one's really got
Speaker 5: me kind of flummixed because the World Health Organization and
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be working on this. Maybe I can have
Speaker 5: some answers on it next week. The World Health Organization
Speaker 5: has put out a warning because of MERS, which is
Speaker 5: the Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus. It's a form of coronavirus.
Speaker 5: Here we go, get and yeah, but this one's a
Speaker 5: little weird, this one. What they're saying is, we know
Speaker 5: it's tempting, after all, who hasn't gotten the urge to
Speaker 5: sip a glass of chilled camel urine every now and then.
Speaker 5: But according to the World Health Organization, it could be
Speaker 5: deadly serious. They put a warning out on this because
Speaker 5: of mers and according to this news release, sixty four
Speaker 5: cases of the disease have been documented in South Korea,
Speaker 5: including five deaths. South Korea has got some very strict
Speaker 5: quarantine rules when it comes to animals. There's only forty
Speaker 5: six captive camels in South Korea