WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.480 --> 00:01:14.280 Dire Way. Who is this, I. 2 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:16.840 Don't know, it's me. It's amid the Ruins, this guy 3 00:01:16.879 --> 00:01:21.680 who makes dire Way of Music. It's amid the Ruins 4 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:23.640 and sense. 5 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:31.879 Dire Way Music. 6 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:54.200 What I've talked about in you know, probably one hundred 7 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:58.959 articles of Jason Analysis is the implementation of the AI 8 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:02.400 smart grit in the giant smart cities, which is what 9 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:05.599 IBM talks about publicly building. And that's where we're going, 10 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:07.200 and that's what I think we have to be really 11 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:10.159 concerned about. So all of these tensions, they are for 12 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:16.039 a long term strategy to basically get everybody moved into 13 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:17.120 mega cities. 14 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:25.280 That's going. Are you guys doing? Come on, don't get 15 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:26.960 pitchy now what you trying to start the show? 16 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:32.400 I perfected my Tony by the way, as you can see, 17 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.960 I have perfected my Tony. My Polly. It's almost there. 18 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:38.879 I got a little bit of ways to go with 19 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.319 the Polly, but maybe we can work on our Polly tonight. 20 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.360 Welcome everybody, This is Jason Elsis. We're going to be 21 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:52.439 covering the Sopranos, as you know, long requested, long forgotten. 22 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:55.560 I just avoided it, not on purpose, that's kind of 23 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:57.960 like X Files. I always wanted to watch X Files, 24 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:01.439 but I never got into it, and then I finally did. 25 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:03.120 I've never seen it either. 26 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:07.240 Yeah, I get you in here. You look better than me. 27 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:12.080 I spent an hour and a half trying to get 28 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:13.759 nineties New Jersey. 29 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:17.240 Woman hair, so she looks like Adrian and. 30 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:22.719 I think that it is witchcraft because I cannot. I 31 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:25.199 couldn't do it. This is the best that came out. 32 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:28.319 I don't think they make hairspray like that anymore. 33 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:33.280 Come on, you look good, you look no problem my 34 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:36.319 life tea. 35 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.840 All right, So before we get going here, thank you, 36 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:43.840 Welcome everybody. We're gonna be covering the entirety of the Sopranos, 37 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:46.800 the whole thing. I was gonna wear my white jacket 38 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:52.360 over this just to be kind of mobster, but I 39 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:54.800 decided that's a little too I look like Tony Montana. 40 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:57.159 I don't look like Tony Soprano. Well you look like 41 00:03:57.199 --> 00:04:03.319 Adriana though, so that you work but look like Tony Monks. 42 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.759 That's actually one of the themes in the show The 43 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:12.159 Sopranos is that they glamorize their own lifestyle by watching 44 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:19.279 Goodfellas and Godfather and all the mobster movies, but the 45 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:22.360 way that they are portrayed in the Sopranos is that 46 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:25.439 it's not very glamorous. You know, Tony's just like an overweight, 47 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:29.399 balding dude who lives in the suburbs and he's got 48 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.240 suburban problems. He wears his bathrobe and he hangs out 49 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:37.720 and eats ice cream at night. He doesn't really live 50 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:40.879 this high powered, glamorous Yeah. 51 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:44.399 Well, that's the thing with this show is that it's 52 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:50.120 going to have elements of more realistic mafia type of 53 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.959 living and lifestyle at the same time is having a 54 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:57.879 lot of unbelievable elements because, as everybody knows, there's no 55 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:02.000 way that a actual living, existing head of a family 56 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:06.120 or a dawn would be going to a psychiatrist and 57 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:09.600 telling her all of his problems. That would be the 58 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:13.240 end of his career. He would be done. So that's unbelievable. 59 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:18.199 But that's the fantasy fiction element of this is just 60 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:21.199 the premise of the show, which is great, which is 61 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:25.360 what if a mobster did actually go to a psychiatrist, 62 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:29.759 a psychologist and unloaded all of his problems on her. 63 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.360 You know, what would that be like? What would it 64 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:35.560 be before we get into this though, let's step back. 65 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.040 What is your overall impression? So this came out, I'm 66 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:43.399 going to give you my overall impression in you before 67 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.439 we get into the details. This came out starting right 68 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:49.399 at the turn of the millennium, So it's about ninety 69 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:51.720 eight ninety nine when the first season starts, so it's 70 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:55.600 a little bit before the Big Nine event. It's in 71 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.720 many ways it's it's interesting to reflect on that time 72 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:01.279 period right right before for the Big nine event. And 73 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:03.639 this actually comes into the show, like they bring up 74 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:09.120 the Big Nine event after it happens. It becomes kind 75 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.920 of a side plot about some of the Arab guys 76 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:17.680 in the series who hang out at the Bottoming that 77 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:21.079 will play into the final season. But aside from that, 78 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:23.360 a lot of the cultural references of the stuff that 79 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.839 Meadow and aj are into, the pop culture that they're into, 80 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.480 the stuff she's presented with at college, the literature that 81 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.040 they're reading in reference, it was it was interesting to 82 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:36.680 kind of step back into that time machine to which 83 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.439 I remember vividly. I remember, you know, when nine to 84 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:41.480 when one happened. I remember what was going on at 85 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:43.800 that time. I didn't watch the Sopranos at the time, 86 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:45.360 so I knew about it. I had heard about it, 87 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:47.040 but it's kind of in the period where I was 88 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:50.680 kind of not really watching TV shows, and yeah, I. 89 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:55.560 Had never seen one episode either, so it was all fresh. 90 00:06:55.600 --> 00:07:01.040 And it's a very interesting transition to have that big 91 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:04.399 event in the TV show because there were scenes that 92 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:07.920 they had to take out because of that. I didn't 93 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.360 know that in the credits and other. 94 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:14.720 Places in relation to the Big nine event. Yeah, okay, 95 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:19.680 Now I want to remind everybody that we do have 96 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.079 super chats, so welcome. We got two hundred and twenty 97 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:24.439 five nerds. There will be spoilers, by the way, so 98 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.920 if you've not watched the full series of Spranos, we 99 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.959 will be spoiling it at the end and maybe then 100 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:33.199 you could tune out, but don't tune out right now. 101 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.360 So if you don't want to support us, you can 102 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.000 support through superchats, as you know, and we'll be reading 103 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.720 those eventually and let me pull up that link. And 104 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.439 then we got our trustee mods in the house. Shout 105 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.399 out to the mods. They will be helping with that. 106 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:53.800 But you can ask your superchat questions there. We're going 107 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:55.879 to get into all of the different layers and elements, 108 00:07:55.920 --> 00:08:01.800 the geopolitical, the historical, the character studies, the archetypes, the 109 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:08.279 literary references, the espionage references that come up, actually, the 110 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:10.759 relationship with the FBI, this kind of stuff that all 111 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:14.800 plays into this show in a masterful way. So my 112 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:18.040 initial analysis is that when I started the show, I 113 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.639 wasn't sure what I was getting into, and I didn't 114 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:23.399 know what kind of a show it would be. And 115 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:26.920 it's a genre defying show. It doesn't it plays on 116 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:30.399 some of the Mafia tropes in film, but it also 117 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.759 goes in directions you don't expect. It's very comedic. I 118 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:35.840 didn't expect it to be really funny. A lot of 119 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:40.080 the episodes are very comedic. Tony is very comedic. The characters, 120 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:44.399 they're one liners, they're jokes, they're you know, making fun 121 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:46.440 of each other. This is all kind of a staple 122 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.879 of Mafia stuff. But it's played off really well. Some 123 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.519 of the episodes are surrealist, which I didn't expect, especially 124 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:55.480 Tony's dream sequences, which I thought were done very well. 125 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.240 I didn't expect those in the middle of, you know, 126 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.799 really serious mafia stories to have these kind of you know, 127 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:04.960 surrealest dream sequences with talking fish and this kind of stuff. 128 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.519 Well, they had a lot of philosophical questions. 129 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:10.840 Yes, and we we'll get into that too. So what's 130 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:14.200 your initial overall assessment, Because it took me all the 131 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:16.759 way through season one to really like it. I was 132 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:19.240 still iffy at the end of season one. By the 133 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.679 time I started season two, I was hooked. So I 134 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:25.200 didn't initially get hooked. But sometimes the shows that you 135 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:28.720 like the best, it doesn't initially you don't get hooked 136 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:30.559 right away. Even songs, like the first time you hear 137 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:32.039 a song, maybe you don't like it as much as 138 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:32.279 you know. 139 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:34.720 Yeah, it was the same for me. We started it 140 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:37.159 and the first couple of episodes, I was thinking, what 141 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:42.679 is the big deal about this show? It almost every 142 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.200 show or episode in that season was set in the 143 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:51.480 strip club, so it's not really a family show. But 144 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:52.120 and then I was. 145 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.600 Thinking, more unless you're from a prominent strip club lineage 146 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:55.039 your family. 147 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:58.960 But I think that's was one of the draws of 148 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:02.120 an Sally is like, you don't see a lot of 149 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.159 that on TV, and so. 150 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:10.200 What on TV? The Mafia on TV? Oh, well maybe 151 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:15.159 I mean it's the show to let you know, the 152 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:19.360 show is a dramedy. I would argue it's a it's 153 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:22.399 a tragedy. It's a comedic tragedy is really what this 154 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:25.840 whole series is. Tony is a tragic figure in terms. 155 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:29.679 Of literally There's also an overarching question in the show 156 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:35.840 is that can a psychopath be redeemed? Or is Tony 157 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:40.000 a psychopath or a sociopath? For one? And can he 158 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:44.720 help himself? For two? So I think we'll answer that 159 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:46.799 question yes in the show. 160 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:51.240 And I do have some knowledge, just cursory of the 161 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:56.360 whole realm of crime, syndicates and mobsters. It's because it 162 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:00.360 ties into you know, Espiona's research research, uh, and so 163 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.159 there are different kind of theories and analysis as too. 164 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:06.159 You know, just like with The Godfather, the series is 165 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:10.600 kind of based on probably an amalgamation of different families. 166 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.960 There's the Dicabolcante family, which is one of the well 167 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:17.679 known families as you know or may not know. There's 168 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:21.480 you know, the Five Families. There's other families connected to 169 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:25.240 those families, other syndicates and whatnot connected to Sicilian mafia 170 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:28.080 and so forth. So you know, you've probably heard of 171 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:31.320 figures like John Gotti or the Colombo family or these 172 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:36.240 kinds of people. So this is sort of loosely referencing 173 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:39.200 some of those families. And some of the analyzes that 174 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.799 I read said that they think that Sopranos is based 175 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.679 on Di Cabocante because of the waste management So they 176 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:48.480 actually had a front that was a waste management business. 177 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.240 That's Tony's business. When you start the show, we don't 178 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.879 exactly know how Tony is really making all his money. 179 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:59.200 It's not exactly explained that I recall. It says, yes, 180 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.799 eventually they're sort of stealing cars, and then they have 181 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.000 that sequence where they go to Italy and they he 182 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.440 meets with that hot Italian chick and he tries to 183 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:09.600 sell you know, her cars and whatnot. So we know 184 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:12.159 they're stealing cars and shipping them off for another price 185 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:15.399 in Europe, and but there's other things that they're doing. 186 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:19.639 We don't exactly know where Tony got his initial wealth 187 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:23.200 because he does live in this pretty nice Jersey house. 188 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:25.840 He lives in a house nicer than everybody else. Basically, 189 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:28.960 go ahead, yeah, well, the. 190 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.720 The money making part is not really integral part of 191 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.679 the show. It's just kind of in the background of 192 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:38.559 his own psychological dramas and relationships. 193 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:42.120 Yeah. I mean that's this as all good stories are. 194 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:45.320 You know, they're not just about crime or or heists 195 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.879 or this is about the character. It's about the it's 196 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:53.840 a character study. Everybody's character arc is pretty fascinating. It's 197 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.279 you get into the characters, which it's it's not easy 198 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.600 to draw an audience and to the characters, especially when 199 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.840 they're bad guys. And I think that that's the good 200 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.879 point the difficult part of a movie, and that's probably 201 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:11.279 why mafia movies are successful, is because they they're able 202 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:13.519 to the good ones, are able to get us to 203 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:19.080 feel sorry for, empathize with and understand how somebody comes 204 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:21.600 to be that way and live that kind of a lifestyle. 205 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.120 Yeah, he was one of the first kind of anti 206 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:28.200 heroes and TV, so he kind of paid the way 207 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:30.919 for characters in like Breaking Bad. 208 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.519 Interesting, I never thought about that. Yeah, that's a great point. 209 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:38.360 So let's get into where we begin. We see at 210 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:41.600 the beginning Tony is going to a psychiatrist. As he said, 211 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:43.720 if you watch the famous kind of YouTube videos that 212 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:47.000 are going around of Michael friend ZC who's the a 213 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:50.919 former mob boss. I don't remember what family, But you know, 214 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:54.679 he's he gives an analysis of different mobster movies, and 215 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.840 he says that that's the most unbelievable aspect of this 216 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:00.799 whole series, is the whole idea of going to see 217 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:04.399 a psychiatrist. So, but this is a fictional series. We're 218 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:07.360 going to set that aside. We're going to suspend our 219 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.240 disbelief for a moment and just figure out what it 220 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.399 would be like if this did happen. And so what 221 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:17.039 happens is, of course he's immediately kind of at the outsets, 222 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:24.080 prescribed prozac, and the most important symbolic sequences in season 223 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:25.840 one that our call it's been a while since I 224 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:29.720 did season one, but is when he sees different animals 225 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:32.320 and the ducks. So the ducks are the most important 226 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:35.840 thing in season one because they're hanging out in the 227 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:38.840 pool and Tony, for some reason, feels this kind of 228 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:44.399 association and attraction to these ducks. I'm not exactly sure 229 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:47.360 what the connection of the ducks is, except that perhaps 230 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:50.960 they signify an omen because as we know, the series 231 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:53.039 is going to end in a certain way, and the 232 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:56.080 ducks never come back, if I recall, unless they're seen 233 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:58.240 maybe at the end of season one, he season flying, 234 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.360 but they don't come hang out anymore, and there will 235 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:05.879 be multiple animal references, nature references throughout the show where 236 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.759 we will see the bear kind of wandering into the backyard. 237 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:14.440 I've got notes, I don't remember time. Last episod oh yeah. 238 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:18.600 The cat plays an important role in the finale. So 239 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:23.840 the animal sequences basically signify I think Tony as a 240 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:27.279 force of nature. Tony is a kind of an agent 241 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:30.799 of death. He's an angel of death. And the other 242 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:35.799 unbelievable suspension of disbelief aspect to the show that we're 243 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:41.440 going to encounter with Tony is that he never loses, 244 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:45.639 He never gets busted, he never gets caught. He escapes 245 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:49.840 out of everything. He's He wins, wins, wins, winning, right 246 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:52.919 all the way until the last season. Then we start 247 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:57.559 to get the intimations, the omens that pop up, the foreshadowing, 248 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:00.960 the presignifiers that it's not probably going to go that 249 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.960 well for Tony in the final season. Don't forget the horse. 250 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:06.960 Tony has the connection to the horse, so he consistently 251 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:12.960 starts having these associations and deep connections with animal symbolism, 252 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:18.000 animal forces, the forces of nature. This is for multiple reasons. 253 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.759 But when we get to the end, I'll tell you 254 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:24.200 why I think Tony has this deep connection to nature 255 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:27.840 and to animals, because it will all be basically explained 256 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:31.399 in the final season, and a lot of the recurring 257 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:33.840 symbolism you want to pay attention to. This will be 258 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:39.480 key because as you watch the series now, looking back, 259 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:42.840 knowing what happens at the end, you can see a 260 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:46.759 lot of the clues that were being laying so that 261 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:50.279 you could understand and interpret the final episode, and in fact, 262 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:56.600 the beginning of season six, the first episode is the 263 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:00.759 pre signifier of the final episode. So the season is 264 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:02.559 basically just going to kind of lay it out on 265 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:07.960 the table in a lot of symbolic correspondences and clues, 266 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:10.799 so you're gonna know by the final season what's going 267 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:16.720 on here. We got most people obviously speculating in the chat, 268 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:19.200 so feel free to leave your super chats and I'll 269 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:21.119 read those if you want to. But so now let's 270 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:24.279 get into it. So it's waste management. She's talking to 271 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:28.119 the to the woman, this annoying I can't stand this woman. 272 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:30.279 It was the whole time I was like, please stop 273 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:34.680 going to this annoying psychiatrist She's the most annoying person 274 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:38.960 in the series, next to Janice. Okay, Janice and the psychiatrist. 275 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:42.559 I cringe. They're revolting people I can't stand. 276 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:43.200 And the mom. 277 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:45.960 Oh yeah, yeah. They're all equal, they're all equal. 278 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:49.559 The actress who played this psychiatrist was supposed to play 279 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:53.240 the wife she wanted the psychiatrist. 280 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:58.279 Which is that because that actress plays Rayleiota's wife and Goodfellas. 281 00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:00.880 So in Goodfellas she is the mom's wife, and that's 282 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:02.240 probably why she was up for that role. 283 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:08.640 Sopranos shares twenty seven total cast members with good Vellas WHOA. 284 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:12.759 So they're very closely linked. And it's interesting to study 285 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:17.400 the mob because the way that they operate is how 286 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:18.880 the Illuminati operates. 287 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:21.880 Yes, they're another mafia exactly. 288 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:26.519 And so the families of the Illuminati they also fight 289 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:30.279 with each other. They're not all on the same yes 290 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:31.480 page about areas. 291 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:35.079 In fact, the big elite, the top of the pyramid, 292 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:42.240 is who in the modern period will displace these other families, right, 293 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:45.200 they will come to be the chief mafia. And really 294 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:47.720 what we're watching in the Sopranos on a big geopolitical 295 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:53.799 scale that I'll get to is that displacement, right, the FBI, 296 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.440 the CIA, They're mentioned very clearly at the end of 297 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.079 the of the show in season six. That's the big MafA, you, 298 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.480 the big geopolitical mafia that is essentially going to squeeze 299 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.799 out any of these lower less, lesser rival families or mafia's. 300 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:12.039 But yes, in the sense of secret societies structures, the 301 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:15.119 elite are structured in this way. It's just that these 302 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:18.119 families are not going to be at the table in 303 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:21.759 the new world order. And that's why we're witnessing with 304 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:26.960 Tony the end. That's another reason why spoiler alert, it's 305 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:31.559 a tragedy. Tony represents the older way of doing things, 306 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:37.119 like even his whole attempt to kind of preserve Little 307 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:41.720 Italy or the Italian culture in New Jersey where he's at. 308 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:45.720 When he doesn't want to sell certain stores to Jamba 309 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.400 Juice and the big corporate stuff. He wants to to 310 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.759 thanks to say the way that they are, but it 311 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:56.000 doesn't work. Tony is going to be ousted by bigger mobsters. 312 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:56.880 That's the key. 313 00:19:57.039 --> 00:20:00.480 Well, there is one episode where they go to some 314 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:04.000 kind of Starbucks or something to shake down them for 315 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:08.160 their neighborhood protection money, protecttection money, and the guy that 316 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:12.160 works there is like, I can't do anything. I'm just 317 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:14.200 a manager. There's corporate and they're like, what if we 318 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:15.160 bust your windows? 319 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:17.079 Maybe, yeah, we gotta come by and bust out a 320 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:17.799 few windows. 321 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:20.160 He's like, all right, corporate will just replace something. 322 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:21.440 Yeah, they'll just replace me. 323 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:25.119 Maybe we'll let you have a little bit of fists. 324 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.519 He's like, yeah, they're just gonna fire me and put 325 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:31.000 somebody else in here, dude. So, by the way, if 326 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:34.640 you watched Fargo season two, that is the exact same 327 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:38.799 thing in Fargo season two because the black mobster guy, right, 328 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:41.319 if you remember, he goes and threatens that corporation that 329 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:44.400 comes in and the corporation just laughs at him. He's like, 330 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:46.119 he's like, maybe I got to come in here and 331 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:50.559 bust a few computers up, and they're like, corporate head 332 00:20:50.599 --> 00:20:53.240 office will just send us three new computers the next day. 333 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:54.799 It's like it's not gonna do anything. 334 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:58.559 So, yeah, who's the bigger gangster? Right? 335 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:02.720 Yes, So this is those families getting displaced eventually by 336 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:07.720 the big mafia, and the final season will kind of 337 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.559 make reference to who that big mafia is, and it's 338 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:16.240 not who you think, right, It's essentially like CIA type people. 339 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:19.960 That's the big mafia that's going to come into the 340 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:22.160 picture here. And I got a chakra for you. Guess 341 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:27.279 who and why that big mafia displaces this mafia. Well, 342 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:30.400 because there used to be an alliance between these two mafias. 343 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:34.160 Did you know that? This is the famous book, famous story, 344 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:37.720 And in fact, it will be referenced in season six. 345 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:44.559 The FBI agent will talk to Tony about Tony's families, right, 346 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:48.880 the families connected to Tony that actually helped the Allies 347 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:53.319 and protected Lucky Luciano and different characters during World War 348 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:57.079 Two as a result of alliances between the CIA and 349 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:00.680 the Sicilian mafia. This is well known. Have been many 350 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:02.599 many times in history where the mafia and the CIA 351 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:08.720 have linked up, and the problem is that the loyalties 352 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.440 of the CIA are not the same as the loyalties 353 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:16.319 of the families, and so eventually the CIA mafia will 354 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:19.160 screw you over. So that's the meaning of the show 355 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:23.319 basically towards the end on the geopolitical level, but we're 356 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:25.440 gonna hold that off until we get to the end. 357 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:29.799 Let's talk about some of the references in season one 358 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:34.799 that I didn't expect. If you remember, there are interactions 359 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:40.160 between Tony's family and the Jewish mafia, and so there 360 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:43.920 is a hotel that they're kind of squabbling over, and 361 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:50.000 the Jewish mobster refers to Tony as a gollumn, which 362 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:52.920 I thought was a wild sort of cabalistic reference because 363 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:56.200 they're sort of ortho. They look like Hasidic. I guess 364 00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:59.200 they're Hasidic Jews that are connected to the Jewish mafia. 365 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:02.119 They had a with Tony, it didn't go right, and 366 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:06.079 this is how we see Tony gaining that hotel at 367 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:10.400 the beginning. So this on the mafia level, what Tony 368 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:14.200 is doing throughout the first few seasons is basically acquiring 369 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:18.440 more businesses through mafia tactics. So he gains that hotel, 370 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:23.400 he burns down Artie's restaurant and then helps Artie basically 371 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.880 rebuild it and ends up eventually with a stake in 372 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:30.240 Artie's restaurant. If you remember Robert Patrick the T one 373 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:32.960 thousand or two thousand, whatever it is, I remember dogget 374 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:37.480 Agent dogg It from X Well. Doggett is a gambling addict, 375 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.319 and so Tony notices profiles. This gets him in on 376 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:43.480 this big gambling game. Lets him in, but he warns, 377 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:44.599 hmmy son, I told. 378 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:46.599 You you're not ready for this. This is above you. 379 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:48.240 You're not ready for this game yet. This is a 380 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:48.920 big game here. 381 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:50.599 And oh, Tony, let me in. 382 00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:52.119 I want to play with the big guys. 383 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:54.160 I want to. I want to. And it's because he's 384 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:59.920 got who's the famous singer his son as they're playing 385 00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:06.839 cards with him. Yeah, Frank Sinatra Jr. Is literally in 386 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:11.400 the show playing cards with Tony and agent dogg At 387 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:14.759 Robert Patrick Great from x Fells, who's just this normy 388 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:17.160 boomer dad. He's like, you know, let me let me 389 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:19.200 in there, Tony, I want to. I gotta play poker 390 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.839 with the Frank Sinadra Junior. That sounds awesome, and then 391 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.839 he ends up losing everything because he's a gambling addict. 392 00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:28.799 So what I'm saying is that Tony is a master profiler, 393 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:32.200 so he knows people's weaknesses and he knows how to 394 00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:36.599 get what he wants through people's weaknesses. This is again 395 00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:40.279 possibly why you could have the CIA and the mobsters 396 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:43.000 linking up, because they have common types of interest. They 397 00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:45.400 know how to profile people, they know how to find weaknesses. 398 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.400 So he knows Dogget or Robert Patrick, the character has 399 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:52.319 this weakness and he gets them basically to forfeit the 400 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.599 entire business that he owns. He owns this giant sporting 401 00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:59.119 goods store and then Tony just comes in and takes 402 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.440 it over. You want me this now? This is my story? 403 00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:01.720 Now? 404 00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:05.880 Well, that's one of the themes in the show is 405 00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:08.160 that can he be health through therapy or is he 406 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:12.799 just a sociopath who is learning tricks to manipulate people better. 407 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:15.319 Yes, this is a key point that I didn't expect 408 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.880 and that's not revealed until the end, which is that, yes, 409 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:23.559 we're not sure what the therapy is going to do 410 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:31.519 with Tony, and basically it just it falls apart, right, 411 00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:34.240 It's just a way for him to, like you said, 412 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:38.279 better become a profiler. Yes, so he learns tactics. 413 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:42.119 He's learning more about human psychology, not because he wants 414 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.359 to be a better person, but because he wants to 415 00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:47.119 be better at manipulating yes, well and acting like he 416 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:48.519 has feelings. 417 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:50.839 And the way to understand this, and the way that 418 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.319 you know this is the case is when you notice 419 00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:56.119 in the later seasons all the references to Tony like 420 00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:59.839 a general Tony sees himself as a soldier. He makes 421 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:01.200 the reference many times. 422 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:03.759 He says, you know with soldiers, with soldiers, Okay, this 423 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.720 is a war with soldiers. People for that flat family. 424 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.880 He sees himself as a soldier. He's constantly watching war documentaries. 425 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:16.559 He's watching war shows on the History Channel. He's studying generals. 426 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:21.359 If you notice he's watching Ramel right, how Rama. Tony 427 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:25.039 references son Zoo. And then when Pauli and other people. 428 00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:28.640 Said, it's like, that is son Tazoo. Don't you read 429 00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:32.960 son to Zoo, And he's like, it's sun Zoo, you idiot, 430 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:39.119 when Christopher and Pauli have their rivalry. But but yeah, 431 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:42.359 that's because Tony sees himself as a general. And in fact, 432 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:44.960 I'm gonna make the argument perhaps that this is a 433 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:49.079 literary reference to the notion of transmigration of souls or 434 00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:55.119 being reborn literally reincarnation, because any of the great literary 435 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:59.599 works that we typically think of from the Greeks, especially 436 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.400 somebody like James Joyce and Ulysses, it has the theme 437 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:08.640 of reincarnation, and most of the time pagan literature does that. 438 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:11.160 It falls back on that. So there are I think 439 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.119 these kind of subtle references too. Is Tony a reincarnated 440 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:16.759 general And in fact, somebody in the chat made a 441 00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:21.559 good point that when Tony's beating up the Jewish mobster, 442 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.920 he's wearing a Roman sandals. He looks like a Roman. 443 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.400 Well remember when he throws away that horse painting and 444 00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.160 Polly has it repainting a general as. 445 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:35.160 An American general, and when you probably didn't see the sequence, 446 00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:37.279 but there's a sequence when he goes to Italy and 447 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:41.720 he meets with that woman who's the de facto dawn 448 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.000 of the family because the dad's old, the hot chick. 449 00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.119 He has a dream where he's sleeping with her and 450 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:50.759 he's dressed up as a Roman soldier a general. Okay, 451 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:54.200 so there's a lot of references to Tony as a warrior, 452 00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:57.079 as a general, and even he brings it up. 453 00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:59.640 Let's talk about the nihilism for a second, because that 454 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:01.079 or do. 455 00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:03.519 You want to well, yeah, I do have that on here. 456 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:09.000 But so what I did was I went, I went 457 00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:12.799 season by season. So there's gonna be can we hold 458 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:15.000 off on that and let's go to. 459 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:18.720 What also thought would be fun is we could go 460 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:20.119 character by a character. 461 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:24.160 And do a character study. It would be, but they'll 462 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:27.200 problemse that I did my notes like from season one up. Okay, 463 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.519 so what I began to notice in season one was 464 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:36.640 the manipulative tactics of the mother. I mean, Tony's problems 465 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:39.039 do stem from his parents. I mean that is clear. 466 00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:42.880 So there are gonna be psychoanalytical points in the show 467 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:48.599 that are true. His mother is a super master narcissist manipulator. 468 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.240 Yeah. So at the very beginning, the therapist diagnoses the 469 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.640 mother through the stories of Tony that she is borderline 470 00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:58.440 narciss's personality. Fun fact about her. 471 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.599 You know my mother, she would she never loved me. 472 00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:04.880 She was a really good villain. She was one of 473 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.720 those characters that you love to hate. But the actress 474 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:13.640 actually had cancer throughout the whole time she was filming, 475 00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.119 and she died before her character died, and they had 476 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.519 to use old footage and CGI to make up the 477 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:20.519 last scenes of her. 478 00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:25.880 I didn't know that. But yes, she actually enjoys torturing 479 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:29.000 and manipulating Tony. This is why Tony is who he 480 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:31.799 is in part. Now. Obviously the dad played a role too, 481 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:35.480 but his dad was a flanderer. His his dad was gone, 482 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:39.200 his dad was out partying and doing mob stuff. So 483 00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:42.079 the mom was kind of stuck home alone raising the kids, 484 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.839 and you know herself was this sort of just arch 485 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:50.039 manipulator and was just really cruel. The cruelty of the 486 00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:54.279 mom is kind of overwhelming and shocking because she plays 487 00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:58.200 up this character of the innocent little granny so well. 488 00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:04.160 She's she's always is appealing to her victim status. Yeah 489 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.039 you put me in that home, you live up there, 490 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.599 right and you got palace, you in this home. You 491 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:11.200 don't want me? 492 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.640 Oh yeah, yeah, that's the classic like old lady narcissist, 493 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.119 like you don't love me, you. 494 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.839 Don't love me. Yeah, you put me in this home 495 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:21.039 to doyle alone. 496 00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:25.839 And then her daughter, his sister kind of inherits that 497 00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:26.920 victim mentality. 498 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:31.640 Yes, Janie is just as just as manipulative, but not 499 00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.079 very good at it. She's terrible. She's not very smart. 500 00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.759 So Janice Tony got all the smarts. In fact, I 501 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.160 think their reference one or two times that Tony is 502 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.920 believed to have or may have a genius level i Q, 503 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.839 so we know Tony's super super smart. Janis got nothing. 504 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.240 She got no looks, she got no intelligence. She's just 505 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.200 a dumb, fat bitch. Basically, she does have. 506 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:56.720 That Rolling Stones tattoo. 507 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:01.160 She does have a large Yeah Stowe's tattoo on her 508 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:09.319 pancake flappy giant breast. Right, I can't say there's just 509 00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:14.000 three characters that are gonna irritate you so bad. It's 510 00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:18.799 the Mom, Janice for me, the psychiatrist, I couldn't stand her, uh, 511 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:23.920 and Richie. Ritchie will be the the the worst annoyance 512 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.480 of villains for the first couple of seasons and he 513 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:33.319 will end up marrying Janie ironically. All Right, so we 514 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:40.240 find out that the Mom is the chief archetype for 515 00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.160 manipulating and traumatizing Tony. We're even told that Tony is 516 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:45.400 traumatized yea. 517 00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:48.319 Even to the point where she tries to put. 518 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.680 A hit on Yes, she wants to kill. 519 00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.519 Tony and tries to get the uncle. 520 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.680 And Junior Junior gets in on it. And that's because 521 00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.160 they're They don't like the They resent the fact that 522 00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:04.640 Tony is intelligent, Tony can run things. Junior is envious 523 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.279 and van glorious. He wants to be the mob boss, 524 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.839 but he's kind of incompetent. He's he's in a way, 525 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.640 he's smart and wise, but he's not good at running things. 526 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.440 Tony is good at running things, and that's why he 527 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:20.720 fulfills the role perfectly. But Junior resents him for this 528 00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:23.359 his older uncle because he's able to run things, and 529 00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.839 so they just kind of let Tony's really smart about this. 530 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:29.880 He lets Junior be the figurehead who can take the 531 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:33.640 fall when they get arrested, right, and Junior goes to 532 00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.519 jail and Tony's fine, and then Junior fin finally figures 533 00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.200 out that this is what Tony let him do, which 534 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:39.640 was kind of genius. Actually, I was. 535 00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.519 Listening to psychologists talk about the characters and they said, actually, 536 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:50.359 Junior exhibits more narcissistic traits than Tony because he cares 537 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.839 more what people think about him, and he'll actually kill 538 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.359 people just so he doesn't have to look bad. 539 00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.119 That's a good point. Yeah, remember, if you want to 540 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:00.960 support us, we've got to suit a couple of super chats. 541 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.160 We got three hundred and sixty nerds in the chat 542 00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.599 tonight Welcome. We knew this was gonna be a good show, 543 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.319 so maybe we can get up to about four hundred 544 00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:13.720 pretty soon here, But hopefully you're enjoying this. There's references 545 00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:16.359 to the mom castrating him. I thought this was interesting 546 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:20.079 that the psychiatrist tells Tony that your mom was a 547 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.759 master manipulator. She has helped train you to be who 548 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:27.599 you are. She has emasculated and castrated you. So she 549 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.440 kind of interprets a lot of Tony's delusions and hallucinations 550 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.400 in relationship to the trauma that the mom inflicted on him. 551 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.519 And I think a lot of that's true. It's just 552 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.160 that as we're going to see as the series progresses, 553 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:46.640 this goofy psychiatrist woman's solution, they don't work, and the pills, 554 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:51.079 the lithium, the prozac, which is all referenced in season one. 555 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.000 This is when prozac was brand new, right, so they're 556 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.799 referencing Tony's on prozac. They don't do anything. 557 00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:58.240 This is also the beginning of big pharma. 558 00:33:58.359 --> 00:33:59.279 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 559 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:06.640 Yeah, so you've got Prozac, lithium, viagra, new drugs coming 560 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:11.119 out and they are all being experimented on, right. 561 00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:12.159 Yeah. 562 00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:17.360 And there's an interesting scene where the psychiatrist says, I 563 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.599 think I've done everything I can with you in talk therapy, 564 00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:25.039 and we need to implement this new phase of your 565 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:29.039 healing or whatever, and he's just not into it because 566 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.719 he just likes just talking to her. He thinks that 567 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:36.440 this is going to change him without him having to 568 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:37.559 do any of the work. 569 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:46.039 Yeah, we begin to see in season one the mom 570 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:50.039 is actually the real villain. In season one, the other 571 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.840 mobsters are mad that they hear about Tony going to 572 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.039 the shrink. They laugh about it. The mom says, isn't 573 00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:01.239 that a Jewish thing? She says, that's a Jewish racket, all. 574 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:06.320 That treatment that one of the characters tries to go through, 575 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.639 the other characters make fun of him for it. Remember 576 00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:15.199 when Christopher tries to get sober, mock him continually for it, 577 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.400 and anybody who wants to. 578 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.960 Well, this is a theme in the show right when 579 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:26.360 it's a question of who are you? I mean, are 580 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.079 you born to what you are? Are you? Are you 581 00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:33.840 born to fate? Is Tony destined to be Tony? Can 582 00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:38.079 they change? And this will come up when Carmela, Tony's wife, 583 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:41.159 goes to see a Jewish psychiatrist at one point, and 584 00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.239 then she goes and talks to multiple priests, so she 585 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:46.719 tries to unload and kind of get advice for how 586 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.679 to handle these problems. And she's trying to figure out 587 00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.440 can someone like Tony change? That will be one of 588 00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:56.639 the major themes in the show. As you said, we'll 589 00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.000 be waiting throughout all six seasons and we're wondering, Okay, 590 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.159 is this gonna be Tony's downfall? Is this person gonna 591 00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.960 be Tony's downfall? Tony finally gonna get what's coming to him? 592 00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.159 Or is he still gonna somehow miraculously skate around all 593 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.880 of this and get away with it? Uh? And is 594 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.280 he actually gonna start changing? And they do a good 595 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:20.360 job with In a few instances, Tony does do the 596 00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.079 right thing. He does start changing. He doesn't sleep with 597 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.480 the real estate agent, right, he holds off, he doesn't 598 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.760 cheat in these instances. There's cases where he helps people out. 599 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:34.320 So that's showing that that that humanizes him. He's not 600 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.840 an all bad guy. He actually has human qualities. 601 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.239 After his near death experience. Right. 602 00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:47.440 Yes, So the early Tony is no mercy, no bone, 603 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:49.559 no jokes, no bone. I mean he makes jokes, but 604 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:51.480 I'm saying, like, you don't joke with Tony, you don't 605 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:55.079 play with Tony. If you cross Tony, you're dead. So 606 00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.559 he sort of enforces a rule of fear right. It's 607 00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.280 a Machiavelli kind of the Prince thing, where it's better 608 00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:04.880 to be feared than loved. So Tony runs on that 609 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.519 psychology for the first several seasons, and as you pointed out, 610 00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:10.480 when he almost when he has his near death experience, 611 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.360 when he dies, for several episodes he's in the hospital, 612 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:20.760 on the bed, in the er. He comes back and 613 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.639 he's different. So he has had a change, But is 614 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.239 he really changed? And that's what we're gonna see towards 615 00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:29.840 the end. I think it's somewhat debatable to a degree, 616 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:35.480 because he does kind of more and more have a 617 00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:38.679 better appreciation of people and his family. 618 00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:41.679 You know, he says things, every day's a gift. Now 619 00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:43.559 come out of the hospital. I realize, I look at world. 620 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.239 Every day's a gift. Tennis, every day is a gift. 621 00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.440 And so he knows he's still going, I think, eventually 622 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.599 to his end. And and that becomes really clear, as 623 00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.320 we'll see in season six. So we're almost up to 624 00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:04.199 we got three seventy three. Welcome everybody. So Catholicism is 625 00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:10.159 interesting in season one, it's very much a cultural Catholicism. 626 00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:14.239 Nobody in the series except for the old people. This 627 00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:25.320 is interesting. Polly's mom and aunt take their Catholicism seriously. Briefly, 628 00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.440 Janie has a phase of evangelicalism where she's serious right 629 00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:32.719 with that goofy guy who has narcolepsy, and they have 630 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.119 an evangelical praise band, remember that. And he falls asleep 631 00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:35.719 all the time, and. 632 00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.599 Tony Tony's always loving it's good, bring your friendo if 633 00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:39.440 you could wake him up. 634 00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:41.719 And then he throws peanuts at the guy when he 635 00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:46.480 falls asleep at the Turkey dinner. Anyway, So all of 636 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:50.719 that to say that the way religion is presented in 637 00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:53.400 season one and pretty consistently to the rest of the 638 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.239 show is that it's just a cultural phenomena. There's not 639 00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:59.039 really anyone, even the priest. This is the really interesting 640 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.599 fact in season one was that weird priest that you 641 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.000 think might be gay and then you think, no, actually 642 00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.679 he's hitting on Carmela. He's not even actually hitting on Carmela. 643 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.280 He's a weirdo who just wants food and recipes. 644 00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:15.880 He just wants from women, but he doesn't actually want 645 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:18.199 to cross the boundary to do anything with them. 646 00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.079 Yeah, so he basically stays the night with Carmela flirts 647 00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.719 with her all night, They cook dinner, they drink wine, communion, 648 00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:28.920 private communion. Yeah, and he leaves or he falls asleep, right, 649 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:30.679 he doesn't want to he's snoring or something. 650 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:33.000 Then there's this funny scene where Carmela tries to bring 651 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:35.039 the priest a dish of food. 652 00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.760 That guy's that priest, yeah. 653 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:41.719 I know, and another woman has already brought him food 654 00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:46.960 that day, so she gets all jealous. Remember, so even 655 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:51.119 their their religion is a facade. 656 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.480 It's just something that you do, you know, it's just 657 00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.199 another and and Tony kind of sees through that hypocrisy. 658 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:04.039 I mean, he's not above asking existential questions. He asked 659 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:08.519 them pretty consistently throughout the series, but he never he 660 00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:13.079 never sees the institutional Catholic church as being anything other 661 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.760 than kind of a ritual or a play. Like he 662 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.239 kind of makes some jokes about. 663 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:19.320 It, like, oh, come on, either way, I know this 664 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:21.840 is a bunch of bullshit, and he says stuff like 665 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:22.920 that kind of in passing. 666 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.760 It's just another family obligation thing like going to a 667 00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:27.719 funeral or a wedding. 668 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.000 Next up is oh and the other thing with two 669 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:36.800 That was interesting about the priests was that he's very 670 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.880 much a novus ordo Vatican two priests because when he 671 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:44.920 gives communion that ninety stays over, he actually brings Carmela 672 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:47.760 a book on Buddhism. Oh yeah, he tells her that 673 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.480 she needs to start reading on Buddhism to find spiritual 674 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.840 So just totally, I mean, this was accurate, right, the 675 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:57.280 whole idea of the liberalized clerics of the post Vatican 676 00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:58.480 two novus Ordo church. 677 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:02.599 Do you remember that episode with the Golden Hat Saint 678 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:07.159 and the fair, So there's another example of the mom 679 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.320 working together with the church. 680 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.079 Yeah, this is obliquely referenced, there's no I mean, if 681 00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:16.159 you watch Godfather three, there's actually a really clear reference 682 00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:20.639 to the connection between the Vatican, the mafia and the 683 00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:23.039 Cia and all these kinds of P two lodge and 684 00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:25.840 all that comes up really clearly because that was actually 685 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:28.719 based on the P two stuff with John Paula first 686 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.920 and his assassination. Here it's not as clear. It's a 687 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.400 little it's more, you know, just again kind of cultural stuff. 688 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.360 And then that scene is actually really funny because that 689 00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:41.039 will play into the fact that there's one character in 690 00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:45.639 the show that will survive all of this, and he's 691 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:48.760 really the only one that we think might actually convert. 692 00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:53.559 And it's not he you expect, it's Polly because Polly 693 00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:57.039 is superstitious. They make fun of him for being superstitious 694 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.119 throughout the show. He walks in the bottom being and 695 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.880 he sees the Virgin Mary. Remember, at the end of 696 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.880 the very last episode he says this, and we get 697 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:10.440 the impression that it's really just Paulie who has repented 698 00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:12.559 at the end when he goes and apologizes to his 699 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:16.320 mom or to his surrogate mother, I should say, and 700 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:18.400 he was the he was the one that was really 701 00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:21.159 upset about the saint and the hat, that stupid hat 702 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.440 because he thought, you know, I mean, he's he's he's dumb, 703 00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.199 and he's superstitious, but he's serious and sincere, which is interesting. 704 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.679 Yeah, things have meaning to Paulage. 705 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:35.480 Yeah, you don't just do that, Tea. I swear on 706 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.760 my life, tee, you don't just do that. 707 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:39.840 That's why he gets so messed up when he finds 708 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:41.840 out his mom was actually his aunt and his aunt 709 00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:43.760 with his mom. 710 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.000 My old life, it's been a life. 711 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.719 Yeah, I sweit, tea, my whole life, it's all a lie. 712 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:59.000 And that's again I like the fact that spoiler alert, 713 00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:03.079 nobody may through this. Not nobody, but basically of the 714 00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:08.280 main character spoiler alert, Pauli is who you know. It's 715 00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:10.320 kind of like he's the one that that goes on 716 00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.199 to We don't know what he's gonna do, but presumably 717 00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.599 he's probably gonna go to Florida where they were earlier 718 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:16.559 and just kind of retire. 719 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:18.800 I couldn't believe he was the one that made it 720 00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:20.800 out alive of all of them. 721 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.360 I like that, in fact, that it wasn't who you thought. 722 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.599 You think you And again, spoiler you think Adriana and 723 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.360 Christopher are gonna get out, You keep thinking, Okay, they're 724 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:33.599 finally gonna you know, he's gonna listen to her. You know, 725 00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:37.360 they're gonna be flipped by the FBI, they're gonna get 726 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:41.480 witness relocation. You keep thinking this, you keep thinking it, 727 00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:46.519 and no, right, uh, but we'll get to We'll get 728 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:58.760 to Christopher. Tony, Tony, Tony, you do a good Adriana, Tony, No, 729 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:04.400 I was doing to do, Adriana, what's the flaw? What's faw? Yeah, Adrian, 730 00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:09.920 I told you to the Buddhism book let's see we 731 00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.800 get down to there was another interesting element. I think 732 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.440 this is by about season two, maybe still in season one, 733 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:22.679 where they start introducing these uh other con men. Okay, 734 00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.719 because remember there's an element to Christopher and Tony that's 735 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:28.199 the conman element, right, So then they bring in these 736 00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:31.199 other characters that they interact with, like the Black Preacher 737 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:34.960 and this Black Preacher. If you notice the young one, 738 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:40.679 he's a kind of Al Sharpton Jesse Jackson kind of guy. 739 00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:44.639 And his dad, who was another Black Preacher, was a 740 00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.679 serious guy. He was serious about his spirituality. But the 741 00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.320 younger guy, who's the you know, the preacher leading the 742 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.960 black guys to strike at the construction site, he's totally fake. 743 00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.320 He's like, hey man, I'm just gonna put of money, right, 744 00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:00.800 So he's ready to make deals with Tony, and Tony 745 00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:03.079 he's like, yeah, he's like that kind of a black 746 00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:05.960 TV Preacher guy. But but it's all about race and 747 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.960 it's all about you know, he's an opportunist. That's the 748 00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:13.440 word I'm looking for. And Tony figures that out. He's like, okay, 749 00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.440 so his dad's serious. I don't want to talk to 750 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:18.639 the dad. He's you know, another version of con man. 751 00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.199 He's just an opportunist, and if he's that way, I 752 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.360 can buy him off, right, So Tony can profile people 753 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.639 to tell when they're sincere, when they're frauds, and he 754 00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.159 knows that if they're frauds, is pretty easy to either 755 00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:33.599 buy them off or to muscle them into doing what 756 00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.039 you want. So he really But I like the fact 757 00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.079 that they introduce this kind of you know, opportunist, fake 758 00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:43.559 preacher guy, and he's tied into the Union and he's 759 00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.400 trying to use the union. And this is funny because 760 00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:48.719 the mobsters have used the union for a long time, 761 00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:51.280 so it's like, you're you're on the wrong territory, hero, 762 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.199 The mob is going to know how to utilize the 763 00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:56.079 union way better than you trying to use the union. 764 00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.880 And of course Tony outwits this guy and ends up 765 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.360 oiling this movement. And there's a very similar character to 766 00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:08.960 the opportunist black preacher who is the Native American spokesman 767 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.960 who's also a kind of a We get the impression 768 00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:13.800 that he's kind of a con man, that he's just 769 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:20.280 leading this cultural movement against Columbus day. Right, this becomes 770 00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:24.960 a big ordeal for the social justice themes. Yes, social 771 00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:29.119 justice themes start coming up about season two and they 772 00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.800 want to two or three. They want to get rid 773 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.239 of Columbus Day, and because it's offensive to all the 774 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:40.679 Native Americans, and this leads to a kind of a 775 00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.239 retaliation on the part of syl Silvio and Pauli. They're 776 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.400 furious about this. They go and like beat up the 777 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.840 Native Americans. There's a big there's a big street fight 778 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:55.559 between the social justice Warriors and the Italians. They've all 779 00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:58.760 got got flags, like Italian flags out there, and they 780 00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.719 want to have Columbus Day and all this stuff, and 781 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.840 so there's this big street brawl. And I liked all 782 00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.400 these elements because it was showing you that a lot 783 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:08.840 of this stuff is manipulated. 784 00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.559 Do you remember when Meadow went to college she came 785 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.159 back social justice warrior. 786 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.000 Yes, this is another great point because it shows that 787 00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:20.400 when Meadow goes to college, you know, she's just kind 788 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.360 of a teenager, you know, I mean, she's intelligent, and 789 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.880 she she early on figures out that her dad is 790 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.039 up to something. Like her dad is not on the 791 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:32.679 up and up. He's not really what he presents himself as, 792 00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:33.760 just a. 793 00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.639 Harm of just a harmless waste management, businessman. I'm just 794 00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.559 a businessman, right, No, he's more than that. 795 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.000 And she figures this out by the time she's in 796 00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:44.039 high school, and so we get the impression that Metal 797 00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:49.960 is pretty intelligent. She also will be spared interestingly, and 798 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:56.079 then when she goes to college, she is brainwashed, initiated 799 00:47:56.119 --> 00:48:01.039 into the social justice system. She said, it takes her 800 00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:02.760 while to figure out what her career is. She decides, 801 00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:04.559 I want to be a lawyer so I can defend 802 00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:09.480 the immigrants. So they actually show her as adopting these 803 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:15.679 positions because that's her way to rebel against Tony. And 804 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:19.239 she even says this at times when her bike gets stolen, right, 805 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.079 and Tony said, oh, yeah, who was the guy who 806 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:22.599 stole the bike? 807 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:22.960 Huh? 808 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.840 What was he? Oh? Who was he? Right? So if 809 00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:27.599 you know that scene, then you know what happens. I 810 00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:31.400 won't say it because of you know, getting pulled or whatever, 811 00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:34.960 but it's a funny sequence. And the only reason that 812 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:38.960 Meadow is doing these things is to try to rebel 813 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.000 against Tony's old ways and his you know kind of 814 00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.280 what she thinks are outdated ways of understanding things, because 815 00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:50.400 Tony's in a sense, you could say conservative, even though 816 00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:55.000 he doesn't really care about ideologies. It's purely pragmatic, right. 817 00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:58.960 He knows from the streets that people are different, you know, 818 00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:00.880 He's like, and then when I'm on the street, this 819 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.000 guy's different. He drives around, he sees a mosque. 820 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:06.920 These are these guys are different, you know, they're different. 821 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.960 That was the part in the story after the Big 822 00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:17.280 nine event happened, they wrote that in that Tony is 823 00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.360 now informing to the FBI. 824 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:25.519 The FBI guys, they asked Tony. Yeah, that's a great point. 825 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:28.519 They don't make him an official informant, but they ask him, 826 00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.760 you know, I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine if 827 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.960 you can, you know, provide us some information on any 828 00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.079 of these Arab guys that might be hanging around the 829 00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.559 bottom being. And he does. He does so, not exactly 830 00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.199 an informant, but a kind of a just a on 831 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:47.239 the down low passing information back and forth, which Tony 832 00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:51.159 just sees as advantageous to himself for getting out of, 833 00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:57.559 you know, sticky situations. So so moving on, I like 834 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.920 the sequence when he goes to Italy to meet up 835 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.840 with one of the dons in Sicily and as we 836 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.480 as I said, we find out that it's it's the 837 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:11.519 Dawn is actually has dementia. He's out of ideas and 838 00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.639 know what's going on. And his daughter is running things 839 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.360 and she's, you know, the bomb supermodel. So Tony is 840 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.679 immediately sort of smitten by her, has the dream where 841 00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:24.239 he's a Roman general sleeping with her. And then the 842 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:26.880 most important sequence in all this is that they go 843 00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:31.000 up on this mountain to the Sibiling Oracle. Right, So 844 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:33.440 they go in this cave where the Sibiling Oracle used 845 00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.920 to sit, and she the oracle would would breathe in 846 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:41.719 the hallucinogen hallucinogenic gases or whatever and would prophesy. And 847 00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:43.679 if you don't know, you know, the Sibiling Oracle is 848 00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:48.599 famous for also having prophetic statements about Christ. Right, this 849 00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.519 is a well known thing. If you look up virgils 850 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.800 and ecologue, if you look up the civil there were 851 00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:59.000 these pagan predictions. Also they're related to Christ. I think 852 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.239 that the Sibiling Oracle was even painted I think into 853 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:05.920 the Assistine Chapel. But the the but the the woman, 854 00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:11.239 the woman Dawn tells Tony, she says, you're you are 855 00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:15.800 your own worst enemy. So she does this Sibiling prophecy 856 00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.800 at the Sibiling Oracle about Tony, and they even referenced this. 857 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.360 And then when Tony goes back to a psychiatrist. 858 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.079 He said, hey, you have voted this to the Sibols. 859 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:28.159 The Sibols. She's like the Sibils. 860 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:32.039 Hey, you know the Sybils did the prophecies. You know 861 00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:34.320 they would they would sit and breathe in his head. 862 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:36.480 It would, you know, make them prophecy or whatever. 863 00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.880 Right, And so he basically has been told his fortune 864 00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:43.039 from the Sibyl. I thought that was genius, the way 865 00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:44.519 they did that, the way they pulled it off. And 866 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.719 if you're not familiar with classical lit, one of the 867 00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.360 things I studied in grad school, you wouldn't catch those 868 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:55.880 references to the Sibyl. What do you think? Do you 869 00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:57.599 remember when we were watching it and I told you 870 00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:01.039 that when he went to see the Sibyl, she's functioning 871 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.440 like the Sibyl. She's telling him his future. Yeah, And 872 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:06.920 she said you're your own worst enemy, and I said, 873 00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:08.960 he will be his downfall. It's a tragic. 874 00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:13.440 It's a tragedy, yeah, because Tony's navigating such a minefield 875 00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:18.840 with his job and his family, and everything that you're 876 00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.400 constantly wondering who is going to betray him or get 877 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.360 him in trouble or like we're always guessing, is it 878 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.320 so and so going to be the downfall of Tony 879 00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:29.159 but himself? 880 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:33.199 And it's also not what we expect. What ends up 881 00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:35.280 being his downfall is not who we think it is. 882 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:38.639 It's a it's kind of a random forgotten dude, you 883 00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:41.239 know that he's screwed over. Is basically who ends up 884 00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:45.480 being the cause of his downfall. It's not one of 885 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.440 the sort of key players that you that you think 886 00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:49.480 it's going to be. It's not the FBI, it's not 887 00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.920 the CIA, it's not any of these big agencies or forces. 888 00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.320 It's not the family. Even it's not even his family 889 00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:56.280 that's his downfall. 890 00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:03.800 So I like the episode where they're having to deal 891 00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:07.599 with the rappers, who. 892 00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.039 Well, before we get to that, there was a there's 893 00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.360 a really fascinating sequence. We should probably go back and 894 00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.119 watch it now that we've seen the end, But there's 895 00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:20.599 the sequence of the Wizard of Oz. This could have 896 00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:23.159 an m K ultra mind control aspect to it because 897 00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:30.280 it has to do with Tony having a car wreck. Uh, 898 00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:33.440 and it's when it's when Tony was having his blackouts, 899 00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:36.480 and there's a there's a you may have missed this 900 00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:42.199 this episode, but the psychiatrist is talking about the psyche. 901 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.119 She hears the Wizard of Oz song, and we see 902 00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.519 this vision. I think it's her vision if I recall, 903 00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:51.079 and she sees Tony dead. She sees him in a 904 00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.639 car wreck dead. Now, Tony doesn't die in a car wreck, 905 00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:57.920 but it's another instance of the foreshadowing that's gonna tell 906 00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:02.119 us what happens. And if you haven't seen the end, 907 00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:05.440 then you don't know the signific You're not gonna know 908 00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:07.800 until the very end, what the significance of it. Throughout 909 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:11.639 the whole series, Tony's son is just an idiot. And 910 00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:14.920 this this one sequence where even the idiot can have 911 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:18.159 this kind of sage, sagacious moment where he says, you 912 00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:22.519 guys are all living in a dream. This is not real, right, 913 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:27.239 And so again hearkening back to the psychiatrist's dream of 914 00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:29.920 Tony and the Wizard of Oz playing and Tony wrecking. 915 00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:35.559 Go ahead, I don't remember that one. 916 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:45.320 So let's see that's not really relevant. Let's go down here. Okay, okay, 917 00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:49.679 So one interesting reference that the psychiatrist will make early 918 00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:54.079 on is to Carlos Costanada. She will talk about reading 919 00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:57.880 Carlos Castenada, and we don't really know the beginning why 920 00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:00.119 that would matter. It could have reference to you of 921 00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:03.440 the c I A mk Ultra stuff, which is loosely 922 00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:05.840 there with the big pharmoh, the Wizard of Oz theme, 923 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:12.880 Tony being traumatized, Tony blacking out at times, but she 924 00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.840 will talk about, hey, you should you know read cost 925 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:18.840 Costanata blah blah blah. She mentions it in passing. But 926 00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.519 this is foreshadowing for the end of the show where 927 00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:26.119 Tony goes and trips trips out. So he actually has 928 00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.880 this Carlos Constanata moment where he goes and does what 929 00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:33.599 does he do psilocybin or something, pot goes and does 930 00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:37.760 peyote in Las Vegas. So that was another foreshadowing that 931 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.639 you don't you're not, you don't know why it's relevant 932 00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:42.639 until you get to the end of the to the 933 00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.599 last season. Basically the last season really shows everything. So 934 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:48.199 what's up? We got four hundred nerds tonight? If you 935 00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:51.960 would be sure and smashed like the gobble gool, what's goul? 936 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:52.199 Uh? 937 00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:55.960 You read all of this from one instance of Goba 938 00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:56.679 Gool when I was a. 939 00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:58.679 Kid, right, this is what he tells the psychiatrist. 940 00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:02.719 But she's like, you have a problem with sexuality, and 941 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:08.719 Ron meet. Uh you read all this from the gobbagool. Yeah, 942 00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:13.760 because uh when it won the interest snack, you read 943 00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:14.360 all of this. 944 00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:17.800 This is crazy well because the gobbool has to do 945 00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:20.119 it the first time he ever saw dad kill somebody. 946 00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:24.639 Yes, and uh, sexuality because he says that the weird 947 00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:27.239 mom would be turned on when the dad would bring 948 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.719 home the gobba ghoul because the mom knew that he 949 00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:31.880 had killed somebody or had done so. 950 00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:35.320 The gobagool for free because they were leaning on the 951 00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:36.320 butcher exactly. 952 00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:37.360 That's right. 953 00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.480 The mom liked the violence and the danger. 954 00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:44.719 Yeah, exactly. And Tony was young and didn't understand this. 955 00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:47.639 He didn't understand what was going on and it traumatized him. 956 00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:52.639 And that's the first time Tony passes out. Remember remember 957 00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:56.920 his episodes and then AJ has these exact same episodes. 958 00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:57.599 Do your AJ? 959 00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:03.039 What are gutters? 960 00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.039 What's a gutter? You know what? 961 00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:08.920 When you you we're gonna clean out your mouth and 962 00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:10.719 then that it is, you're gonna go clean the gutters. 963 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.000 What are gutters? Oh, you're gonna get smart with me. 964 00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:16.239 Now you're gonna talk about what a gut is. You 965 00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:19.280 gonna get smart with me. No, I really don't. 966 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.920 Know what gutters are. He's really that dumbie, actually doesn't 967 00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:23.800 know what gutters are. 968 00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:27.480 The best line of AJ when he said, yeah, that 969 00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:27.760 it is. 970 00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.800 You're gonna go do your homework and then you're gonna 971 00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.400 study for your dists. Then he then he says something, 972 00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:34.880 I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure that I look at 973 00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:37.960 your grades. You just showed your own ignorance because you 974 00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:39.880 just revealed your own ignorance because we don't even have 975 00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:40.519 grades yet. 976 00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:45.280 It's such a nihilistic thing to say. 977 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:45.719 It is. 978 00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:48.400 Yeah, this is the next thing on my list. Actually 979 00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:51.639 is after the curls costing Alla reference, we start getting 980 00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:55.119 a J asking questions. Right. AJ is this nerdy, chunky 981 00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:58.599 little kid who totally oblivious. He has no clue what's 982 00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.000 going on. And then ironically, in the midst of being 983 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.480 a total idiot, AJ starts asking like mega, big level 984 00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:12.000 existential questions. And this is peaked because the grandma is dying, 985 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:16.519 the manipulative psycho grandma, and she gets she tries to 986 00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:17.880 turn everybody on her side. 987 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:18.079 Right. 988 00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.519 This is every sequence with the Grandmother in season one. 989 00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:25.679 She's manipulating somebody to turn them on to be on 990 00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:28.960 her side. And she gets Aj in there alone and 991 00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:33.039 she says something about we all die alone, right, And 992 00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:35.639 so AJ's sitting there freaking out with his He's always 993 00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:39.760 doing this, right, So then he starts. 994 00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:42.960 Thinking maybe there's no God all right. 995 00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:46.920 And so he goes to this existential teen crisis. He 996 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:50.639 starts reading Nietzsche. All that stuff is pretty funny. One 997 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:52.519 of the kids he talks about existentialism. 998 00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:54.880 Yeah, one of the kids in that show. His dad 999 00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:57.519 gets killed and he turns totally goth with the whole 1000 00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.199 black lipstick and everything. You remember that, So. 1001 00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:03.519 This is veto later on Vito, one of the guys 1002 00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:06.920 that works for Tony. Uh Vito, turns out to be gay, 1003 00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:09.440 and then he doesn't want to get found out, so 1004 00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:12.599 he runs off. So he goes off to another city 1005 00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:18.360 in the Hampton's or somewhere. Yeah, and uh Vito's son 1006 00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:21.559 starts going through a crisis like Aj did and turns goth. 1007 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.559 So he just turns to this total goth guy. I 1008 00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:26.360 won't say what he says to Tony, but he has 1009 00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:30.880 some really funny lines about actually I could see Tony's. 1010 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.599 Like been Toko to your uncle. Oh yeah, is your 1011 00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:38.159 butt buddy? Oh yeah, that's really funny. I like you, 1012 00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:38.880 you got a mount on. 1013 00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:42.760 You, kid. But yeah, So he goes to that same 1014 00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.760 crisis that Aj goes through in the early seasons. But 1015 00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:51.400 AJ's crisis of faith leads him to reading Nietzsche, Sartra, 1016 00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:56.000 and Kirkerguard he immediately goes to the existentialists. And that's 1017 00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:00.559 it's not super significant, except that it's tell us that 1018 01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:05.320 the show is going to be asking big existential questions. Right, 1019 01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:11.360 So Tony, Carmela, even Pauli, even some of the minor 1020 01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:15.760 characters are all going to be confronting the reality of life, 1021 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.440 death and the afterlife. They're all going to be confronting 1022 01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:22.719 these questions. And that's why the big existentialist philosophers come 1023 01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:26.119 up early in season one and two. But it's funny 1024 01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:29.639 that it's a bit of irony there that it's the 1025 01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:33.320 dumbest guy, the dumbest character in the whole show. I mean, 1026 01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:37.039 you could argue AJ's even dumber than Janis really who 1027 01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:41.039 actually asked the big question. It's not the smartest except 1028 01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:42.400 Tony does. Tony asks Big. 1029 01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:44.800 He's the one that sees through all the bull crap, 1030 01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:45.760 like you guys are. 1031 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:49.360 Just well he and Meadow due. Meadow and he both do. 1032 01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.880 But all right, let's well, we hit four hundred, we 1033 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:56.599 got four oh three. Welcome here, be sure, yes, hitch 1034 01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:57.960 like and share. 1035 01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:00.159 Listen. If you don't hit the liking the sh I'm 1036 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:01.960 gonna take you up back. I'm gonna make sure that 1037 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:07.039 you get the lake in the shell. Okay, all right, 1038 01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:08.159 so we're done with this. 1039 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:17.119 Hell is three o'clock in the Near Death Experience vision. 1040 01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:20.920 So there's a near death experienced vision early on, a 1041 01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:23.840 Hell vision. I don't know what my note's about, but 1042 01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:27.440 something to do with Tony starts describing a dream or 1043 01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:33.679 a vision, and he talks about how the psychiatrist woman 1044 01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:35.480 asks him, like, what do you think your dream means? 1045 01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:35.920 I don't know. 1046 01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.199 I'm not going to hell. It's for the worst people. 1047 01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:41.679 And that's what the rapers and the murder vision, you know, 1048 01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:43.599 all the people that do all the really nasty shit. 1049 01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:44.800 I'm not going to hell. 1050 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.639 Come on, that's interesting that Tony doesn't see himself in 1051 01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:48.519 the category of a. 1052 01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:55.039 Bad person, exactly exactly. I also liked the element where 1053 01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:58.159 Tony gets neighbors, and the neighbors that he gets are 1054 01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:03.960 these really annoying, snooty wasp elite. And then that's one 1055 01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:05.960 of the actually the funniest sequences in the whole show 1056 01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:09.199 is when the wasp elite who are into stocks, and 1057 01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:11.800 this is how Tony and Carmela start getting into stocks. 1058 01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:15.679 They take Tony out to play golf. I remember that 1059 01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:21.039 They're like, so, uh uh, maybe you know some stories 1060 01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:23.360 about John Gottie you could. 1061 01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:25.800 Tell us, And Tony's like, what are you talking about? 1062 01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:30.079 Who? What? Yeah? You know, have you heard any stories about, 1063 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:33.360 you know, any of the famous guys? And then Tony 1064 01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.480 realizes that they know that he's in the mafia, and 1065 01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:39.480 they they think that there's all these you know, stereotypes, 1066 01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:43.039 and so Tony tells him this whole ridiculous story with 1067 01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:44.800 a ridiculous ending. 1068 01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:48.480 So the marvel at the story is John Gotti. Really 1069 01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:49.280 let ice. 1070 01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.199 Cream just tell us this nonsense story and they're all like, 1071 01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:57.079 oh yeah, and so he's just messing with him, right, 1072 01:02:57.119 --> 01:03:01.559 So I thought that was that was a good comedic 1073 01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:05.159 twist because you think that Tony's gonna take that golf 1074 01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:07.400 club and start beating the crap out of him, and 1075 01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:09.519 he just makes fun of him. It was great. But 1076 01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:15.039 the wasp elite, right, they use the Italian immigrants. And 1077 01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.840 this actually comes up, you know, Tony references this about 1078 01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:18.599 how you know. 1079 01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:19.960 We used to we used to work for them, right, 1080 01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.000 we would have we would have grunts for them, you know, No, 1081 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.159 we did odds with our stuff. 1082 01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:27.159 Where's a place at the table, right, So it's all 1083 01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:31.000 about wanting a place at the table. The different wealthy 1084 01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:34.840 power structures, right, the JP, Morgan's, the Carnegie, the Rockefellers, 1085 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:39.599 the wasp elite who used the Italian immigrants as the workforce. 1086 01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:42.559 And this is why Tony and I think it's Tony 1087 01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.000 that says this withre's our piece, we want a piece 1088 01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:47.719 of this. I think he's telling it to the psychiatrist. 1089 01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:51.840 He's explaining the Italian immigrant experience, right, He's saying. 1090 01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:54.280 This is this is our people, this is we both 1091 01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:56.679 this place. We built this country right for them. 1092 01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:02.199 And so he doesn't care for that, you know, snooty, 1093 01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:05.960 arrogant Wall Street wasp elite. But they do get the 1094 01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:10.000 idea from the wasp elite to set up this little 1095 01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.360 stupid stock scam, and they put Christopher in charge of it, 1096 01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:19.239 which is hilarious because Christopher brings in his two muscle guys, 1097 01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.559 who are also complete idiots. Right, they end up getting 1098 01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:24.280 killed the next season because they're so stupid. 1099 01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:28.440 Another point about this show is the criminals aren't that smart. 1100 01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:33.679 Yes, even the guys that Tony has as his conscilier 1101 01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:38.159 or his right hand men, they're not that bright. Even 1102 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:41.280 the other even the other bosses of the family, right, 1103 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:47.119 Johnny Sack Junior, he's incompetent. He can't run the family. No, no, no, 1104 01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:51.639 not not Johnny Sack. It's the guy that Johnny sackson 1105 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:57.760 a rivalry with the other guy, what's his name, somebody Junior, 1106 01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:02.280 the the old guy that dies and then his son 1107 01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:06.559 takes over. He's the guy that makes the movie with Christopher. 1108 01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:09.400 That guy, he's funny. Little Carmine, thank you. Yeah, little 1109 01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:13.840 Carmine is incompetent. Johnny Sack is kind of competent. He 1110 01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:17.760 can run things, but even he can't. Really, he's no 1111 01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:22.079 match for Tony. Nobody is a match for Tony. Even 1112 01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.559 though the other families are jealous of Tony and they'll 1113 01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:28.280 diss him. They're afraid of Tony. They don't know how 1114 01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:30.639 to handle him, because you can't. Tony's a force of nature. 1115 01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:36.079 You can't really deal with this guy. He's unstoppable. We 1116 01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:38.239 mentioned Richie and these different characters who are kind of 1117 01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:43.039 the key villains. I mean, Richie is just on you 1118 01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:46.639 can't He's like Jeoffrey, right, Richie the Grandmother. These are 1119 01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:49.920 Jeffrey level characters. You can't wait for them to die. 1120 01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:52.960 But the only reason Richie is really interesting as a 1121 01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:59.000 character is the clue of the jacket. If you remember Richie, 1122 01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:02.119 who am so is totally a psychopath. He kind of 1123 01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:06.039 wants to impress Tony, even though he resents him and 1124 01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:07.880 fears him. At the same time, he's the guy that 1125 01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:11.039 ends up marrying Janice. He thinks, maybe I can win 1126 01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:13.800 Tony over by giving him some kind of symbolic thing 1127 01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:17.079 that in his mind is important, which is a stupid 1128 01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:21.159 seventies jacket. It's this hideous, ugly, you know, nineteen seventy 1129 01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:23.480 five leather jacket. And he gives it to Tony and 1130 01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:26.920 oh what it is? Put it in the trunk, and 1131 01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:30.800 then Tony just gives it away and Richie sees the 1132 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.559 jacket that he gave to Tony, which had this significance 1133 01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:36.480 for him given away, and he's just infuriated. Right, So 1134 01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:39.280 you know in season two or three that there's going 1135 01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:42.840 to be this you know, butting of heads between Tony 1136 01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:45.880 and Richie. But the reason that the jacket is so 1137 01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.039 important is that the jacket is going to be the 1138 01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:53.000 key clue the end of the show, telling you what 1139 01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:58.760 really happened, Right, the jacket, not that jacket, just the jacket. 1140 01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:02.239 Just keep Jack, get in mind, it's just telling you 1141 01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:06.599 a clue. That jacket's insignificant, but it's just calling your 1142 01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:10.880 attention to details in the show, like the jacket, that 1143 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:15.119 are going to be important for deciphering and decoding the 1144 01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:23.079 final episode. Of course, as you know, I like the 1145 01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:26.599 fact that it wasn't Tony they kill Ritchie. All of 1146 01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:30.239 this time, there's Tony and Richie butt heads about five times, 1147 01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:32.599 and you're just waiting for Tony to unleash on this guy, 1148 01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:36.440 and he ends up not doing it, and you think, well, okay, 1149 01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:41.360 now he can't because Richie's married to Janice. And then 1150 01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:48.360 who ends up getting rid of Richie Janie? Yeah, because 1151 01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:52.320 Janie is just as crazy and psycho as Tony. But 1152 01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:55.800 she's she doesn't have any self control, right, and so 1153 01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:57.519 she just does it, loses her mind. 1154 01:07:57.760 --> 01:07:59.079 Tony help me. 1155 01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.000 Tony has to come over. He's the fixer. He cleans 1156 01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:04.320 it all up, and he gives her a bus pass 1157 01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:07.000 and says, now you're at here, get lost. I don't 1158 01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:10.960 want to see you again. And because Janice really was 1159 01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:14.719 just she's just a mooch, right's. Her life is a failure. 1160 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:19.119 She can't find a relationship, she's overweight, she's unpleasant as 1161 01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:22.640 a person. She's really annoying. She tries to be manipulative, 1162 01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.199 but everybody can see through it. She's just a terrible 1163 01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.199 person and a terrible character. And so Tony just wants 1164 01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.000 to get rid of her. And so he thinks, finally 1165 01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:33.720 he's going to get rid of her. Of course she's 1166 01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:37.680 going to come back. But as we end the early 1167 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:41.239 about getting almost to the middle midway of the show, 1168 01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:46.600 we see the important vision of dream that Tony has, 1169 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:50.159 and I like that they couch this vision and dream 1170 01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:59.680 in the midst of a really bass, guttural, potty humor 1171 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:05.800 element when Tony gets diarrhea yea and because yeah, but 1172 01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:08.760 it's but it's on purpose to contrast it with it's 1173 01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:11.199 it's a it's a it's a kind of a contrast. 1174 01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:14.079 It's a literary usage of the grotesque, where you take 1175 01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:17.319 something that would be a profound vision and you couch 1176 01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:21.520 it in something ridiculous, like farting all night with diarrhea 1177 01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:25.880 because you had bad seafood. Okay, So Tony Is goes 1178 01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.600 and has aladies. I don't know what, shrimp or something, 1179 01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:30.640 and this the shrimp is bad, and it gives him 1180 01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:35.720 this awful case of food poisoning. And we both had 1181 01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:38.800 food poisoning. We we can sympathize with this. We were 1182 01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:41.239 just remembering what it was like to have food poisoning. 1183 01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:43.560 It's awful if you've never had it. It's if you 1184 01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.479 think you're dying. And so in the midst of this 1185 01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:51.079 food poisoning, Tony has these prophetic, really deep visions. He 1186 01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:56.399 sees the future, a potential future in the future, and 1187 01:09:56.439 --> 01:09:58.560 he sees in a way kind of his own demise 1188 01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:02.840 and and he sees. He doesn't know how to interpret 1189 01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:05.640 it yet, but he sees, and he senses deep down 1190 01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:07.880 who the rat is. 1191 01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:09.920 That's when he figures out he's betraying here. 1192 01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:14.479 It's Pussy. So Pussy is the rat. He doesn't immediately 1193 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:18.239 know how to interpret the dream because he's walking down 1194 01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:22.760 the boardwalk by the by the beach and he sees 1195 01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:24.960 these fish for sale, and the fish starts talking to him, 1196 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.880 and it's Pussy, and what is it? He sleeps with 1197 01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:31.600 the fishes, So he's seeing what is going to happen, 1198 01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:34.840 what he's going to do when he finds out, which 1199 01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:37.359 he kind of deep down knows that is Pussy's the rat. 1200 01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:39.720 Pussy's going to have to go sleep with the fishes. 1201 01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:45.640 I really like that though, that they couched the the profound, 1202 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.479 you know, prophetic visions in the midst of this guttural 1203 01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:53.039 you know, bloating and gas sequence. That's really kind of hilarious. 1204 01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:02.159 So once again, Tony is not just a a general. 1205 01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:05.399 He's almost a kind of a king. And if you know, 1206 01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:09.800 from scripture and from the ancient classical literary tradition, kings 1207 01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:14.199 were oftentimes seen as prophetic characters. The dream that the 1208 01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:18.920 king has Nebugineeser and Daniel right Pharaoh's dreams. Kings were 1209 01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:22.880 believed to have prophetic dreams, and so Tony also has 1210 01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:27.279 this kingly type of role and so he is having 1211 01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:29.800 prophetic dreams, but at the same time he doesn't know 1212 01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:32.239 how to interpret that. It's just so foreign to his 1213 01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:36.479 kind of pragmatic mind. But eventually he's going to start 1214 01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:39.039 figuring out that, you know, a lot of what's been 1215 01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:44.239 happening to him was kind of synchronicity manifesting, archetypal relationships 1216 01:11:44.279 --> 01:11:48.600 manifesting to tell him that he's actually seen the future. 1217 01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:52.279 What do you think, I mean, don't you see that 1218 01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:56.359 there's these esoteric things that keep coming up, these passing references, 1219 01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.359 even the literary and there will even be esoteric and 1220 01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:00.880 occult refer and says later on. 1221 01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:05.520 Yeah, and another thing about him being the king is 1222 01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:09.439 he always has to watch his back because somebody's. 1223 01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:13.359 Yes, because of treachery, treachery and take his position. Yeah, 1224 01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:15.880 if you're at the top of the heap, everybody wants 1225 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.640 to take you down. Yeah, you know, Caesar right at 1226 01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:20.479 two brute right. 1227 01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:25.800 And so in that way, he ends up having to 1228 01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:29.159 kill a lot of the people who are loyal to 1229 01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:31.279 him and who he's supposed to be sworn to be 1230 01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:37.159 protecting in this brotherhood. Tony, I think throughout the whole 1231 01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:39.319 of the show he kills more of his loved ones 1232 01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:41.800 than he does of his enemies. 1233 01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:46.279 Yes, well, this is one of the tragedy. This is 1234 01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:48.680 part of the reason why Tony is a tragic character 1235 01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:51.199 is that, I mean, the role of being a king 1236 01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:55.239 or the head of an army, so to speak, is 1237 01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:59.039 that everybody below you, it resents you. They don't trust 1238 01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.000 your leadership, They want to take you down, they want 1239 01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:03.039 to see you follow when I see you fail. And 1240 01:13:03.079 --> 01:13:05.840 so what Tony this even comes up? I think it's 1241 01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:08.600 season three or four where there's almost a kind of 1242 01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:13.359 a mutiny, right, Paully resents Tony, even sal at one 1243 01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:16.840 point kind of resents and criticizes Tony as mad at him. 1244 01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:19.720 Christopher resents and is mad at Tony, and so do 1245 01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:24.039 even some of the other underlings. And Tony has this 1246 01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.079 sit down meeting I think with sal or Paully, and 1247 01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:30.600 he basically just says, you don't know what it is 1248 01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:34.239 to be in my position. He's like, I have to 1249 01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:37.479 deal with stuff that I can already read you and 1250 01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:40.680 tell you that you can't handle this. And that's how 1251 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.520 he's so successful against all of his enemies and against 1252 01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:47.920 Johnny Sack, his main rival towards the later seasons, is 1253 01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:49.800 that he can already tell that they can't put up 1254 01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:52.279 with it, they can't deal with what he deals with. 1255 01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:56.520 So it takes you almost feel like it takes the 1256 01:13:56.600 --> 01:13:59.960 kind of personality like Tony to handle what he did. 1257 01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:04.640 And it's not just IQ. It also requires this kind. 1258 01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:04.920 Of like. 1259 01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:10.800 You have to be like a general almost is what 1260 01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:11.560 I'm trying to say. 1261 01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:15.039 They did such a good job or he the actor 1262 01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:19.880 did throughout the entire series starting off is like the 1263 01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:28.800 second in command under Junior to becoming this really frightening character, 1264 01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:32.359 Like he gains weight, he gets meaner, he gets nastier, 1265 01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:37.119 he gets darker. The way that he walks changes, the 1266 01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:41.399 way that he talks changes. It's just he becomes more 1267 01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.760 of a monster mobster as the show goes on. 1268 01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:48.159 Yeah, no, that they intentionally are making him more like 1269 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.840 a bear, Like that's why that bear comes out of 1270 01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:55.680 the woods randomly and Carmela and aj are afraid of it. 1271 01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:59.720 They start freaking out, But that's because it's the real 1272 01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:02.680 fear Tony. They're afraid of the monster, the bear that 1273 01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:04.000 Tony's turning into. 1274 01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:06.800 Because in the beginning you think he's a teddy bear, 1275 01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:10.399 but then by the end he's a big bat, grizzly bear. 1276 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:18.399 Yeah, let's see what my next note was. By the way, 1277 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:23.159 the sequences where you see Tony, you'll notice the show 1278 01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:26.880 episodes will constantly open with Tony lying there in the bed, 1279 01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:31.119 and then maybe one as'll open up or you'll see 1280 01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:33.159 him kind of like with his hair all messed up. 1281 01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:37.680 All of those sequences of him lying there in the 1282 01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:40.760 bed are foreshadowing. They're telling you what the show is 1283 01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:43.680 going to show you at the end. Because what is sleep. 1284 01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.840 It's a form of death. Okay, so those are all 1285 01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:50.079 versions of foreshadowing. We're watching the transformation of Tony. Like 1286 01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:52.159 you said, he just he kind of grows into this 1287 01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:54.520 sort of bloated kind of like he just sort of 1288 01:15:54.560 --> 01:16:01.119 waddles around and he walks around like a like a 1289 01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:04.199 degenerate king. And that's kind of what he becomes because 1290 01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:08.159 he can't lose. That's what's so surprising about this character 1291 01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:10.720 is that you know, when you're watching any other mob movie, 1292 01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:16.159 you just keep waiting, and you know, when you know Scarface, 1293 01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:17.680 you know his moment's coming. 1294 01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:17.840 Right. 1295 01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.199 He's sitting there with a giant pile of cocaine and 1296 01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:22.239 he's got the machine gun, and you know the Feds 1297 01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:24.319 are coming in. He's done for it, or the other mobster, 1298 01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:26.720 whoever it is that comes and takes him down. You 1299 01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:31.439 know he's at his end. That's a tragedy. How's a 1300 01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:34.399 good fellow's end? Does really go to get killed? Or 1301 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:35.920 is he? I can't remember what up to it anyway, 1302 01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:38.600 but you know, you eventually know these characters are going 1303 01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:41.760 to go down, and you're just waiting the whole the 1304 01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:46.520 whole show, Tony. No, nothing happens to Tony. That's bad. Really, 1305 01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:50.880 even when the FBI, the FBI keeps making these moves 1306 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:52.960 and you keep oh, now they've got the bug in 1307 01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:56.000 the basement, they're gonna get him, and then Meadow takes 1308 01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.279 the lamp to college. They spent this whole, like three 1309 01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:03.159 three episodes just trying to get this bug in Tony's basement. 1310 01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:06.680 A lot of it is through no conniving of his own. 1311 01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:08.199 It's just like dumb luck. 1312 01:17:08.039 --> 01:17:10.399 That it's no, it's fake, it's it's fate. He's faded 1313 01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:14.399 to be this general, this king that's unstoppable. He's an 1314 01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:18.600 unstoppable force until he himself is his own undoing. And 1315 01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:21.000 that's the whole point of this tragedy, is that so 1316 01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:25.199 the FBI moves against him with the surveillance. And then 1317 01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:29.359 other people start taking medication. Uh, this was an interesting point. 1318 01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:32.600 Other people are talking about taking medicine's lithium, prozac, all 1319 01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:36.920 this kind of stuff. It doesn't help anybody. Adriana doesn't. 1320 01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:38.399 Adriana start taking something. 1321 01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:41.439 She got durable boll syndrome, right, But. 1322 01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:45.399 Her and and Christopher get hooked on heroin. Remember, yeah, 1323 01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:47.600 they have a whole season of being heroin addicts. And 1324 01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:53.720 this is what prompts Christopher to go into rehab. And really, 1325 01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:58.119 Christopher is who Tony is grooming to be the number two. 1326 01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:01.039 He wants Christopher to run things. He thinks Christopher is 1327 01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:06.239 the best potential candidate because he's family. He's Carmelo's cousin. 1328 01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:09.520 In essence, he's the son that Tony. 1329 01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:13.960 You know that isn't right. And and Christopher is a 1330 01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:18.039 weird mix because he's dumb and smart at the same time. Right, 1331 01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:21.279 he's ironically really talented. If you remember when he goes 1332 01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:24.680 and takes acting lessons, he blows everyone away at how 1333 01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:27.520 good he is at acting. I mean he even brings 1334 01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:32.279 the acting class to tears. They can't believe it. But 1335 01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:37.479 he's also unstable, and then somebody in acting says something 1336 01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:39.720 to him that he takes serious and he knocks the 1337 01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:42.119 guy out. So it's like he just like he could 1338 01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:44.960 have been an excellent, amazing actor, and he just runs 1339 01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:46.960 out of there because some guy made a joke in 1340 01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:49.680 the midst of acting. So you can tell that Christopher 1341 01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:53.640 himself is unstable. There's mention of Christopher's life and how 1342 01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:56.319 he was kind of raised by a single mom and 1343 01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.199 his mom was a drunk that actually comes up, so 1344 01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:01.840 he didn't have a good parenting. This is part of 1345 01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:05.079 the reason why Christopher has fallen into this life of 1346 01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:12.760 being a gangster. And there's a couple of times that 1347 01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:14.600 This is what I like with Christopher is that there's 1348 01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:18.159 a couple of times where you think, wow, he's actually 1349 01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:20.199 going to be, you know, the guy that takes over 1350 01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:23.640 after Tony. He's going to be running things, right. Tony 1351 01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:27.960 eventually promotes him the basically number two, but Christopher himself 1352 01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:30.640 is his own worst enemy, right. Christopher ends up to 1353 01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.920 deal with his guilt and pain. He ends up on Heroin. 1354 01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:39.359 This almost destroys his relationship with Adriana, who's the best 1355 01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:42.520 thing to haven't him. She is the one that actually 1356 01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:47.239 tries to get him out of that life, right, not intentionally, well, actually, 1357 01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:49.479 at the beginning she kind of wants him to get 1358 01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:51.600 out of it. She's worried he's going to get killed. 1359 01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:54.880 But then, just like with Carmela, when she starts noticing 1360 01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:59.239 all the fancy shoes, the Gucci, Prada diamonds that come 1361 01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:02.359 from this life, doll and this is that the key, 1362 01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:05.560 the key reason why in many ways Carmela is more 1363 01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:09.479 of a hypocrite than other people is that Carmela knows 1364 01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:14.000 what's going on, but she hides behind this I'm a wife, 1365 01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:15.039 you know, I'm a wife. 1366 01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:17.199 I don't know pay for him, Yeah, she. 1367 01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:21.640 Hides behind all this piety yea. But Tony actually can 1368 01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:26.000 call her out because he knows that she's only doing 1369 01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.239 all this because she also likes the big diamonds, the 1370 01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:31.760 big house, the prestige. 1371 01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:33.439 Of being the first lady of a mob family. 1372 01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:36.960 Well, and and the fancy the shoots, the house and 1373 01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:38.000 all the all the goodies. 1374 01:20:38.079 --> 01:20:38.359 Yeah. 1375 01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:42.079 And so she even admits that when she's either talking 1376 01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:45.399 to the psychiatrist or the other priest and she has 1377 01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:47.920 this gigantic diamond on it, and then she hides it 1378 01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:51.960 because the priest or the psychiatrists like, well, you seem 1379 01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:54.600 to be benefiting from this lifestyle, maybe that's why you 1380 01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:56.079 don't want to get out of it. And she's kind 1381 01:20:56.079 --> 01:21:01.159 of like she's confronted with her own hypocrisy, but she doesn't. 1382 01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:03.359 She kind of counts the cost. And then we have 1383 01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:08.199 that season where briefly they split up, and you know, 1384 01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:10.920 she goes and finds the money in the bird feeder 1385 01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:13.119 that Tony had hidden, the forty thousand dollars there. She 1386 01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:16.680 goes and invests it. She wants to, you know, invest 1387 01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:20.960 in these development projects, this house that she has built, 1388 01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:24.600 because she knows, as Tony has said throughout the show, 1389 01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:30.880 the life of a mobster is eighty percent you're in 1390 01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:35.960 the can or what is It's a you're either in 1391 01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:39.279 the can or you're dead, right, you're either on the 1392 01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:43.760 Morgue table or you're in the prison. So Carmela knows this. 1393 01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:47.920 She's basically just worried about her own survival and the kids. 1394 01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:52.560 But even her character is a tremendous she's a tremendous 1395 01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:57.159 hypocrite because she's always hiding, just like the grandmother, behind 1396 01:21:57.279 --> 01:22:00.199 this facade of I'm doing this for the kids. I'm 1397 01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:04.079 doing this for the family. But if she really loved 1398 01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:07.159 the family, would she have them in this lifestyle. 1399 01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:15.119 No? Well, that's another question about Tony. Is he a 1400 01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:19.800 psychopath or sociopath or what Because you think he's doing 1401 01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:23.520 this for his family, he's he has to murder people 1402 01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:25.039 or they'll come murder his family. 1403 01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:27.640 Yeah. And there's also I mean, and we know Tony 1404 01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:30.520 is a philanderer. He's very open. It's it's pretty open. 1405 01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:31.119 They all are. 1406 01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.399 Well. But what I'm saying is that there's an interesting 1407 01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:38.640 sequence where she falls in love with Furio, this other 1408 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:43.600 you know, Goofy, you know, ponytail guy with the wild 1409 01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.119 crazy shirts that he wears. She has this this affair 1410 01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:51.239 with with Furio in her mind and but she never 1411 01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:56.000 actually acts on it because Furio is like terrified of Tony, right, 1412 01:22:57.279 --> 01:22:59.760 And Tony there's a hilarious sege where he calls her 1413 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:00.159 out of this. 1414 01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:02.439 She's like, oh, you made him a flangling, you made 1415 01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:04.520 me sleeping around? What about you, Infurio? 1416 01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:06.560 Huh, what about you? Emperial Towny. 1417 01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:07.760 It never happened. 1418 01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:11.239 I never slept with Furio. Right. But it doesn't matter 1419 01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:14.319 because the whole point is that she wanted to write. 1420 01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:17.760 She wanted that. And you know, like Jesus says, if 1421 01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:21.000 you're committing adultery in your heart, kimmying adultery. So Tony's 1422 01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:24.960 really just kind of a more honest character. It's not 1423 01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:28.720 that he's good, but it said he's more honest. 1424 01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:32.399 Right, Yeah, because she is kind of the moral compass 1425 01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:35.359 of the show. You think, you think, but then her 1426 01:23:35.439 --> 01:23:43.800 actions are like you said, she's hypocritical. She takes him 1427 01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:46.000 back when she shouldn't take him back. 1428 01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:52.439 You know, she likes the riches, Yeah, she is. She 1429 01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:56.159 loves the glamour and the money and the wealth more 1430 01:23:56.199 --> 01:23:58.640 than she loves the truth of what it would cost 1431 01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:02.319 to actually get the family out of that lifestyle. Because 1432 01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.479 if she really loved her kids, I mean, she has 1433 01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:10.039 to know that that lifestyle is dangerous. She's always harping 1434 01:24:10.039 --> 01:24:12.399 at Tony about how dangerous it is and what he's 1435 01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:17.199 the situation he's putting them in. Well, doesn't she know 1436 01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:21.239 that the kids are susceptible to this danger with this lifestyle? 1437 01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:24.039 So why is she not running to the beyond? In fact, 1438 01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:26.560 when she goes to the psychiatrist and the other priest, 1439 01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:31.720 they basically tell her this and she's like, well, you know, ooh, 1440 01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:33.520 I don't know if I really want to, you know, 1441 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:35.840 count the cost to get out of this lifestyle because 1442 01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:37.920 in a lot of ways, it's really easy and it's 1443 01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:42.920 really nice. So from a character study perspective of Carmela, 1444 01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:46.359 I think that she is for a lot of people 1445 01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:50.279 hard to stomach because she's really hypocritical. And it's not 1446 01:24:50.359 --> 01:24:55.439 that some of the moral criticisms she makes aren't correct, 1447 01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:58.840 it's that she doesn't. She hides behind the piety, I 1448 01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:00.399 think is what makes people really not about it. 1449 01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:02.520 It'll be critical, and she has no backbone when it. 1450 01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:06.279 Comes to standing up to him, because Tony knows her weakness. 1451 01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:09.479 Remember when he makes her really mad, what is he 1452 01:25:09.479 --> 01:25:11.319 goes and buys her this big diamond. 1453 01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:13.199 Necklace because she found him cheating. So he. 1454 01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:16.840 Yeah, but he knows, but he knows her weakness. Yeah, 1455 01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:18.640 which is you know, jewels and stuff. 1456 01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:18.920 Yeah. 1457 01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:22.159 Okay, so let's move on as we get we need 1458 01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:24.520 to how long were you been going for? Not too bad? 1459 01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:26.640 An hour and a half, so hopefully we can keep 1460 01:25:26.680 --> 01:25:30.159 this to about two hours. Maybe there's an interesting sequence 1461 01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:35.560 where AJ sees the dead when Tony's mom eventually does die, 1462 01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:41.720 ghosts appear. There's a sequence where Tony or somebody sees 1463 01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:46.159 Pussy in a mirror. AJ sees the grandmother in the hallway. Remember, 1464 01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:50.640 so we're starting to see that there's flashes of the 1465 01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:52.119 dead being seen, right. 1466 01:25:52.239 --> 01:25:56.119 Well, not only that, but when the AJ sees the grandma, 1467 01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:59.960 that's the beginning of his traumatic episode, his panic attacks 1468 01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:03.840 like Tony. So the grandma has affected Tony with the 1469 01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:07.000 panic attacks. And then again to the grandson a J 1470 01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:07.960 panic attacks. 1471 01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:10.399 Yes, because as you put here your note is good. 1472 01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:13.800 You said AJ sees the ghost of the grandmother and 1473 01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:16.199 this is the beginning of his trauma, like Tony with 1474 01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:21.279 the devill ghoul. Then we have the very interesting reference 1475 01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:27.159 by the Jewish psychologist to Carmelo when she goes. He says, 1476 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:30.439 have you read crime in Punishment? And Crime and Punishment 1477 01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:33.560 is great because it's in many ways it's very similar 1478 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:38.399 to the story of the Sopranos. You have, is it? 1479 01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:42.439 Raskolnikov is the main character who has murdered somebody because 1480 01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:46.680 he overhears stories of great men and he thinks, well, 1481 01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:49.319 if the great men of the world, like Napoleon and 1482 01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:52.279 different generals, you know, basically just killed whoever they wanted 1483 01:26:52.279 --> 01:26:55.279 to to become great men. Why don't I just kill 1484 01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:57.159 somebody and become a great man? I mean, everybody else 1485 01:26:57.159 --> 01:26:58.960 seems to do this in history, so why not me? 1486 01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:01.520 And then, as you know, if you've read Crime and Punishment, 1487 01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:04.920 the rest of the book is basically Raskolnikov dealing with 1488 01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:08.560 the guilt of what he did and only finding redemption 1489 01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:12.479 at the end of his life through Sophia, who represents 1490 01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:15.840 grace and wisdom, the girl who ended up being the prostitute, 1491 01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:18.279 who's the one, the only one that truly loves him. Right, 1492 01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:22.000 she keeps visiting him while he's in the work prison 1493 01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:26.039 camp for murder, and then finally at the end he repents. Right, 1494 01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:31.119 So you think that so that there's the reason that 1495 01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:37.760 the psychiatrist recommended to Carmela to re Crime and Punishment 1496 01:27:37.800 --> 01:27:41.520 is because he sees her as a character like perhaps 1497 01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:45.600 a Sophia, or like even a Raskolnikov, in the sense 1498 01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:49.000 that she's guilty for being part of this, and so 1499 01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:52.039 he's recommending that book to her for maybe for her 1500 01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:54.079 to repent or to come out of this life, because 1501 01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:55.920 that's what he tells her. The priest basically says the 1502 01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:57.359 same thing to you. You need to get out of 1503 01:27:57.359 --> 01:27:59.720 this life. It's not gonna it's not going to be 1504 01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.560 end well for you. And this is another reason why 1505 01:28:03.840 --> 01:28:05.640 it is. I think it's true at the end that 1506 01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:11.399 Carmela is also killed because she doesn't heed the warnings. 1507 01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.800 She stays in the life. They're constantly warned. The dead 1508 01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.079 are appearing to them to tell them that this will 1509 01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:19.960 lead to your death. 1510 01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:24.199 Well throughout the show, most of them have a moment 1511 01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:27.640 where they could get out, but they stay in and 1512 01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:30.800 then that leads to their death. 1513 01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:34.960 Correct, They have an out multiple times, in fact, all 1514 01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:38.319 of them really, I mean it, maybe except for Tony, 1515 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:40.920 although I guess, you know, conceivably if they wanted to, 1516 01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:43.760 Tony could just fly off the to an island somewhere 1517 01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:44.680 if he wanted to. I guess. 1518 01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:48.439 The day that Adriana died, she could have chosen to 1519 01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:52.279 leave and go into witness protection, but she. 1520 01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:57.520 Chose the lie and to go to well well, no, actually, well, 1521 01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:01.000 chrispher made her choice, and Adriana in a choice because 1522 01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:05.359 if Christopher hadn't gone to call Tony, remember, then Adriana 1523 01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:08.199 wouldn't have been killed if he had gone. He said 1524 01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:11.760 I gotta go back. I'll be back in a minute. Adriana. Uh, 1525 01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:14.399 he didn't have to go. He didn't have to go 1526 01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:17.079 talk to Tony, right, he could have just left and 1527 01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:19.840 then conceivably they, I mean the FBI had it arranged 1528 01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:21.880 to where he would have even had a movie deal yep. 1529 01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:23.880 I mean he would have had his whole dream to 1530 01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:27.880 be a movie producer, even though he does in a 1531 01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:30.680 way produced that terrible movie in the final season. 1532 01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:34.439 One of my favorite things about Christopher is that he 1533 01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:40.279 never loses his his mob ness, his mafianess. Even when 1534 01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:45.520 he's dealing with Hollywood moguls and Ben Kingsley and other 1535 01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:50.039 people where he should be polite, he is still one 1536 01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:53.920 hundred percent mobster, using his mob to lean on people. 1537 01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:57.239 Yeah, he threatens Ben Kingsley when Ben Kingsley doesn't want 1538 01:29:57.279 --> 01:29:59.880 to be in his dumb version of Saw. It's ba 1539 01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:02.640 Christopher's come up with this terrible idea for a movie 1540 01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:06.199 that's like Saw mixed with Mafia. Yeah, and it's a 1541 01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:09.800 zombie mobster basically, which the movie actually does get made 1542 01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:13.199 in six. Season six is one of the funniest comedic 1543 01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:15.840 elements in the whole show. But he you know, he 1544 01:30:16.239 --> 01:30:18.319 tries to throw his weight around with Ben Kingsley, you know, 1545 01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:21.000 and he ends up him whoever's with him, I forget 1546 01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:23.800 who it's Polly or somebody, but basically just he punches 1547 01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:27.239 Lauren butcall and steals her, you know, swag bag, you know, 1548 01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:31.239 of thousands of dollars worth of material. So that is 1549 01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:35.720 an interesting aspect to Christophers that he never alters who 1550 01:30:35.720 --> 01:30:38.000 he is with who he's around, right, you know when 1551 01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:40.560 he gets around that Hollywood guy that is the screenwriter, 1552 01:30:41.039 --> 01:30:43.000 you know, the screenwriter starts trying to throw his weight 1553 01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:46.159 with Christopher, and Christopher's like, look, you owe me twenty 1554 01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:49.520 thousand dollars, right, I'm gonna give you a week. And 1555 01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:52.239 the screenwriter guy's like, oh yeah, you're in the mafia. 1556 01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:56.399 Yeah a week, okay, yeah, whatever, Christopher. Christopher shows up 1557 01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:58.880 a week later, beats the crap out of the guy 1558 01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:01.079 within the inch of a show his life, right, and 1559 01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:03.159 then he beats him up again. Right, the guy ends 1560 01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:07.600 up getting video him so he yeah. By the way, 1561 01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:10.199 I don't forget the sequence And was it season two 1562 01:31:10.279 --> 01:31:13.520 or three that was great with John Favreau where you 1563 01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:16.640 have breaking to the fourth wall. John Favreau playing John 1564 01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:21.640 Favreau in the show shows Up, gets Christopher to tell 1565 01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:25.039 him stories, and then takes Christopher stories and puts them 1566 01:31:25.039 --> 01:31:26.359 into his show that he's making. 1567 01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:29.039 Right So, I'm surprised he didn't even kill him for that. 1568 01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:31.920 Right, Well, he was. I guess, you know, if you're 1569 01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:34.720 an A list kind of person like Ben Kingsley or 1570 01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:37.960 a producer famous, you know, like you're maybe that's a 1571 01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:40.720 little bit above what Christopher could do. Because even though 1572 01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:43.159 Christopher is kind of a number two or three guy, like, 1573 01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:45.520 he doesn't have the ability to just go, you know, 1574 01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:48.560 kill anybody in Hollywood. He's not that big of a player. 1575 01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:51.119 His attitude is like, you don't know who I am, 1576 01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:53.239 and he'll he'll punch anybody in the phase, it doesn't 1577 01:31:53.279 --> 01:31:54.159 matter who it is. 1578 01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:57.960 Yeah, So you know, Christopher does have the right amount 1579 01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:01.079 of balls. And that's that's one reason why Tony does 1580 01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:04.000 like Christopher is that he sees in Christopher that sort 1581 01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:08.039 of fearlessness that he has. In fact, Christopher is so 1582 01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:12.159 fearless eventually that he you know, there's a couple of 1583 01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:14.680 times where he snaps and he's ready to kill Tony. 1584 01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:17.640 You know. You we even think a couple of times 1585 01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:19.600 he's going to you know, when it comes to the 1586 01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:23.760 situation where Tony gives Adriana a ride home, Christopher is 1587 01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:27.600 absolutely convinced that Tony slept with her, that they had sex, 1588 01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:32.199 even though they actually didn't because they wrecked. Uh, you know, 1589 01:32:32.239 --> 01:32:34.560 he comes into the club to bout it, being drunk, 1590 01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:37.840 firing off the gun that Tony takes him out to 1591 01:32:38.079 --> 01:32:40.000 outside the city and there, you know, he's about to 1592 01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:41.600 shoot him in the head. You think it's all over 1593 01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:44.880 with Steve Bashimi basically convinces Tony not to do it. 1594 01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:47.560 And so there's there's two or three instances like this, 1595 01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:50.640 you know, where where Tony and Christopher have this this 1596 01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:53.479 sort of confrontation and you you really you're on your edge, 1597 01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:54.800 you or see you don't know where it's going to go, 1598 01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:57.680 and you just wait, you just wait. The whole time, 1599 01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:01.279 you think Christopher is going to be Tony's downfall. And 1600 01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:03.680 that was another thing that was really good about the show. 1601 01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:07.399 You keep anticipating, Oh, it's going to be Christopher, it's 1602 01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:09.359 going to be Chrisopher and Adriana. They're going to be informants, 1603 01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:10.920 they're going to be flipped, they're gonna you know, go 1604 01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:13.199 shoot Tony. They're gonna go crazy, you know. And no, 1605 01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:17.119 it never happens, and it doesn't end with Christopher the 1606 01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:20.279 way you think. Nope, you don't expect Adriana to get killed, 1607 01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:22.600 and you don't expect Christopher to die the way he does. 1608 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:24.159 That was crazy. 1609 01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:30.880 But Adrian Adriana has the same problem as Carmela because 1610 01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:33.439 she stays with Christopher because he's rising up and up 1611 01:33:33.479 --> 01:33:35.960 and up, and she's waiting for the one day we 1612 01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:38.600 make enough money, he'll marry me. We'll move out of 1613 01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:40.800 this crappy apartment and we'll have a house. You know, 1614 01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:43.640 all her dreams will come true. She's waiting on Christopher 1615 01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:46.600 this whole time, and she could have got out, and 1616 01:33:46.680 --> 01:33:49.840 she has a terrible ending because she put all of 1617 01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:51.760 her eggs in the Christopher basket. 1618 01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:55.119 Yeah, and somebody was asking about Luren Bacall. That's who 1619 01:33:56.600 --> 01:34:00.000 Christopher punches in the face and steals her swag bag. Yeah, exactly. 1620 01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:04.279 There were quite a few interesting cameos. David Lee Roth 1621 01:34:04.399 --> 01:34:07.479 made a cameo at the poker game, Frank Sinatra, Junior 1622 01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:13.520 Max a cameo, Ben Kingsley, Lauren Baccall, Jon Favreau, and 1623 01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:18.239 probably a couple more, but there are some notable you 1624 01:34:18.279 --> 01:34:21.520 know Hollywood cameos. Oh the Baldwin at the end, who 1625 01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:24.159 went who plays Tony in Christopher's Terrible movie? 1626 01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:29.399 Pretty much the bald playing himself in a bad movie? 1627 01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:41.279 Right, yeah, what is this ecstasy? Oh, there's an interesting 1628 01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:47.960 some references to when uh Meadow has her phase of 1629 01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:52.560 dating I forget his name, and he sells ecstasy. So 1630 01:34:52.600 --> 01:34:55.239 there's a one of the guys who's trying to work 1631 01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:58.520 with Tony, who's the son of one of Tony's guys. 1632 01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:02.159 I forget the guy's name, but Meadow dates him for 1633 01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:05.359 a while. You think they're gonna be together. He's selling ecstasy, 1634 01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:08.079 and then he ends up dead because he tried to 1635 01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:14.079 kind of do something against Tony. Tony has him killed, 1636 01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:16.520 and of course Tony lies about all the people that 1637 01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:20.840 he's had killed. And because if Meadow or Carmela found 1638 01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:22.800 out all the people that Tony had killed, they would 1639 01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:25.800 they would be furious. Right, So we know Tony has 1640 01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:29.359 Adriana killed, right, he has sal go kill still go 1641 01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:34.560 kill Adriana. But he always tells, you know, there's always 1642 01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:37.479 this plausible cover story of oh they got killed through 1643 01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:40.479 you know, drugs. Oh, Adriana ran off. We'll never see 1644 01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:43.159 her again. She's you know, she got a feeling hurt 1645 01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:48.640 something like that. There's an interesting reference when Meadow goes 1646 01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:52.600 to college to the Francis Stone or Saunders book that 1647 01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:55.600 you've heard me reference many times, the CIA and the 1648 01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:58.640 cultural Cold War right, and this is an important book 1649 01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:01.680 because shows the all of the CIA and the arts 1650 01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:05.199 throughout the entire Cold War period. That book is referenced 1651 01:36:05.279 --> 01:36:08.600 on purpose, you see, it's not accident normal that book 1652 01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:10.800 comes up, because this is telling you that the people 1653 01:36:10.800 --> 01:36:13.560 who are writing this show they know what they're talking about. 1654 01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:17.119 They know this world, the psyche, the geopolitics, they know 1655 01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:21.039 how this stuff goes down and how it works, or 1656 01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:23.680 else they wouldn't be citing books of that caliber, of 1657 01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:26.439 that level. It's a very famous academic work about the 1658 01:36:26.479 --> 01:36:29.640 CIA's role in the Cold War through the arts and 1659 01:36:29.720 --> 01:36:34.640 so the in in there's a flyer for this lecture. 1660 01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:37.760 I think Carmelo picks it. Oh, this looks interesting, right 1661 01:36:37.840 --> 01:36:45.800 that that's in Carmela Meadows dorm room. And so the 1662 01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:48.920 Saunders is supposed to be lecturing at Meadows College, which 1663 01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:52.199 is interesting. Then we have the reference to because again 1664 01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:54.479 remember the CIA mafia link, right, this is what this 1665 01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:58.279 is talking about. Then we have the references to Sunta Zoo, right, 1666 01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:02.239 and there's a there's a a little joke trope that 1667 01:37:02.279 --> 01:37:05.079 comes up a lot in the show where Tony and 1668 01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:08.800 his psychiatrists will come to a discovery or she'll recommend 1669 01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:11.600 a book, uh, and then he'll go read it, right, 1670 01:37:11.640 --> 01:37:14.520 and then he'll say something that she said or he 1671 01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:19.000 learned in the therapy sessions to Paully or to Christopher, 1672 01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:21.520 and then they'll repeat it like it was their wisdom. Right. 1673 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:25.439 So that's how you get Paully saying, don't you ever 1674 01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:28.119 read some to zoop? Haven't you? Ain't you ever read 1675 01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:30.880 sonta Zoop, which we know Paully is an idiot, he 1676 01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:33.760 doesn't read books, right, And then you'll get Christopher will say, 1677 01:37:34.279 --> 01:37:37.279 you know these tropes to like there was some phrase 1678 01:37:37.359 --> 01:37:39.720 that the therapist told, you know, like a cliche, and 1679 01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:42.880 then Christopher goes around repeating it like it was his wisdom. 1680 01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:44.399 It's just that there's a lot of these kind of 1681 01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:48.760 little funny terms of phrases like that. But there's more 1682 01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:53.720 seeing of ghosts that comes up in season four. There's 1683 01:37:53.720 --> 01:37:57.840 an interesting sequence where when Tony meets the Mercedes salesman 1684 01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:01.640 girlfriend and they go to have their affair at the 1685 01:38:01.720 --> 01:38:06.560 zoo and it's in the snake reptile room. So you 1686 01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:11.960 have this weird Adam Eves symbolism going on here once again, 1687 01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:16.960 because as you know, this woman herself is a little unstable. 1688 01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:19.800 We later find out that, well, we know that she's 1689 01:38:19.880 --> 01:38:23.800 actually going to the psychiatrist with Tony, right, they're seeing 1690 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:26.680 the same psychiatrist. That's how they meet. Tony goes and 1691 01:38:26.680 --> 01:38:31.199 flirts with her and they start having an affair. But 1692 01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:35.279 then Tony realizes that this woman is way unstable, and Tony, 1693 01:38:35.359 --> 01:38:38.359 being the sort of psychopath that he is, like he 1694 01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:41.920 is bad for her. Right, so she ends up obviously 1695 01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:44.880 you know, dying. She ends up killing herself. And so 1696 01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:50.800 once again we see that it's emblematic, it's foreshadowing that 1697 01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:54.239 that Tony is a bringer of death. He's almost an 1698 01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:57.000 angel of death. I mean, what is a what is 1699 01:38:57.039 --> 01:38:59.119 a warrior? But an a version of like an angel 1700 01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:02.880 of death. He's a bringer of death everywhere he goes, right, 1701 01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:06.359 It's it's almost like he is kind of the serpent, right, 1702 01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:08.720 And that sequence where they have the affair in the 1703 01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:13.399 reptile room at the Zoo. It's specifically showing you the 1704 01:39:13.439 --> 01:39:18.479 snake to associate Tony with, you know, the serpent, the 1705 01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:21.079 woman with Eve, and it's in the fallen state. I 1706 01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:22.439 thought that was really well done. 1707 01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:25.680 It's interesting that that Tony has made it to the 1708 01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:30.920 top of the food chain in his circles, but nothing 1709 01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:35.560 he does or has brings him any happiness. Even his gumars, 1710 01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:38.279 all of them turn out to be a giant pain 1711 01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:41.800 in the butt. So nothing that he has he can 1712 01:39:42.119 --> 01:39:42.560 enjoy it. 1713 01:39:42.920 --> 01:39:46.720 Yeah, all the pleasures end up being pain and punishment. 1714 01:39:46.800 --> 01:39:48.600 That's the irony here, is that all the things that 1715 01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:51.600 you think are going to be the pleasures that make 1716 01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:54.640 you happy to turn into punishments. And that's that's the 1717 01:39:54.680 --> 01:39:57.920 irony of the hedonistic life. And even in that episode, 1718 01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:00.560 there's I think it's Polly, there's a reference it somewhere 1719 01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:04.079 to predators and snakes and they're watching a TV show 1720 01:40:04.119 --> 01:40:07.119 and Paulie is funny because he's always saying these stupid 1721 01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:11.680 things that really annoy Tony. He's got that, he's got 1722 01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:14.239 that laugh that Tony can't stand the joke. He can't 1723 01:40:14.239 --> 01:40:16.720 stand Pauli's jokes. He thinks they're really dumb. I swear 1724 01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:20.840 t do it, but it's great tea. And then they're 1725 01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:23.640 watching some show about snakes or something, and then Polly 1726 01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:27.079 has some funny line about it's like the snake in Genesis. 1727 01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:30.319 You know, he starts talking about it's like the Bible teah, 1728 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:34.279 but it's actually true what Pauli's saying. What's the funny part. 1729 01:40:34.479 --> 01:40:38.039 Fun fact about Polly is his character, I mean his 1730 01:40:38.520 --> 01:40:42.680 in real life. He has a rap sheet that was 1731 01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:47.640 longer than his acting credits. So he was arrested they 1732 01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:52.079 say twenty eight times. So Polly was a real, live. 1733 01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:55.800 Criminal, so kind of a real I don't know if 1734 01:40:55.840 --> 01:40:58.399 he was an actual mobster, but at least somebody with 1735 01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:01.880 a big criminal rap sheet. And if you watch interviews, 1736 01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:05.680 I watched an interview with the cast present like it 1737 01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:08.119 was last year or so, twenty or so years after 1738 01:41:08.159 --> 01:41:12.520 the show, and the funny thing was that most of 1739 01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:14.840 the characters are kind of what you would expect them 1740 01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:16.479 to be. They're more or less who they are in 1741 01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:18.399 the show in terms of the way they talk and 1742 01:41:18.720 --> 01:41:25.560 the voices and whatnot. But Polly and Pussy are literally 1743 01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:30.399 the same, like they're that guy. That's really how Polly was, 1744 01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:32.319 and somebody's saying he was really a monster, so I 1745 01:41:32.319 --> 01:41:34.920 wouldn't be surprised. But in his interviews, that's how any 1746 01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:37.640 he dresses the same, Like he literally dresses just like 1747 01:41:37.720 --> 01:41:42.199 that guy. I mean, it's funny. Yeah, yes, the same Harry, 1748 01:41:42.199 --> 01:41:45.560 He's got the same you know, big what do you 1749 01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:50.720 call those seventies shirts with the big these coloring? But 1750 01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:53.319 there's a name for those, like a wing color. The 1751 01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:54.319 seventies one. 1752 01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:57.359 The fashions in this show were terrible, like it was 1753 01:41:57.399 --> 01:42:01.279 like the worst of the nineties. We fashions for women. 1754 01:42:01.479 --> 01:42:04.560 I don't think I liked one of Carmela's hairdoos. 1755 01:42:05.920 --> 01:42:09.079 Well, Cammela had the ultimate wine Mom Karen at one point, 1756 01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:11.239 I remember she got the Karen like. 1757 01:42:11.279 --> 01:42:13.359 I didn't think her hairdis could get any worse, and 1758 01:42:13.359 --> 01:42:15.560 then she got the Karen haircut. I can believe it. 1759 01:42:19.560 --> 01:42:28.119 My mother's grave tea. Haven't you read Santazo. There was 1760 01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:31.439 a great episode where they showed HUD as a scam. 1761 01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:33.880 I thought that was fascinating. If you know about the 1762 01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:37.000 history of HUD housing urban development, if you know about 1763 01:42:37.039 --> 01:42:42.399 Katherine Austin fits her whole many of the things that 1764 01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:46.399 she writes about talks about deals with scammery and hud. 1765 01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:49.039 That actually comes up in one of these episodes with 1766 01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:54.600 the housing development scam that they organize they clear out 1767 01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:58.199 the crackheads. That part was pretty funny, how they hire 1768 01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:00.399 other gangs to come in and clear out the brackhead 1769 01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:03.720 so that they can revitalize these houses. But it's all 1770 01:43:03.720 --> 01:43:07.359 a scam because the houses are like way overvalued for 1771 01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:09.000 what they are, so it's really just a way to 1772 01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:12.760 funnel money. There's an interesting scam that they thought up. 1773 01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:17.159 One season they were all involved in a giant mega 1774 01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:21.640 building from the city, a big esplanade, a new construction site. 1775 01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:26.079 Yeah, that becomes the main money making thing from season 1776 01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:29.439 four to six where Tony finally gets in on something 1777 01:43:29.479 --> 01:43:32.079 really big. Right, So this is this is a common 1778 01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:35.359 theme in you know, mafia movies, like in The Godfather 1779 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:39.520 where Godfather won. They're just a local kind of crime family. 1780 01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:45.039 Then they expand to Vegas and by season three, Michael 1781 01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:49.119 Corleone has gone global. He's making giant land deals that 1782 01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:53.039 need the Vatican approval. So he's also created a think tank, 1783 01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:55.600 a foundation, a tax refoundation, but not think tank of 1784 01:43:55.680 --> 01:43:59.479 an ngo, a tax refoundation to hide money. So the 1785 01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:02.159 common thing in the Mob movies is going from the 1786 01:44:02.199 --> 01:44:07.439 small time to big time. And so this big water 1787 01:44:07.720 --> 01:44:10.880 land deal, the development deal is a big part of 1788 01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:14.479 how Tony is finally going to, you know, become a 1789 01:44:14.520 --> 01:44:18.159 really wealthy person if all of this pays off, right. 1790 01:44:19.119 --> 01:44:21.600 So it's all built up to this big Esplanada land deal, 1791 01:44:21.680 --> 01:44:23.760 this big development where they're going to make a big 1792 01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:26.199 it's like, I don't know, like a big mall shopping 1793 01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:33.039 plaza right by the water in Jersey there. Let me say, 1794 01:44:33.079 --> 01:44:40.159 let's go on. Horse is yeah. So Tony the horse 1795 01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:43.760 is interesting because Tony eventually really bonds with this race 1796 01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:46.479 horse that he bets on. Her name is his name 1797 01:44:46.560 --> 01:44:51.119 is Pyo Ma, and the horse wins Tony so much 1798 01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:54.399 money that he buys it, and he loves this horse 1799 01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:56.560 more than he loves anyone else. This is another interesting 1800 01:44:56.560 --> 01:44:59.159 thing where a lot of times I guess psychopathic type 1801 01:44:59.159 --> 01:45:01.840 people because they can't bond with humans, they'll bond with animals. 1802 01:45:02.560 --> 01:45:05.119 And so he bonds with his horse and then the horse, 1803 01:45:06.199 --> 01:45:09.840 you got it, dies, He gets cooked, he burns up. 1804 01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:13.479 I mean, it's almost like the horse ends up damned, 1805 01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:16.159 so to speak, right, just like. 1806 01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:17.920 Everybody else that loves Tony. 1807 01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:20.479 And so did well, Tony is a bringer of death 1808 01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:26.399 and the horse ends up cooked literally, And this is 1809 01:45:26.439 --> 01:45:32.000 another foreshadowing obviously what's going to happen to Tony's luck. Tony's fortune, 1810 01:45:32.119 --> 01:45:35.199 Tony's luck is eventually going to run out. This is why, 1811 01:45:35.880 --> 01:45:39.840 you know when he's betting and gambling in season four 1812 01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:42.439 and five, he can't lose, like he's just it's everybody's 1813 01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:45.319 kind of amazed at his like he just puts the 1814 01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:50.119 tokens down and you knows he wins. Then by season six, 1815 01:45:50.399 --> 01:45:53.359 we have that important episode where he starts losing and 1816 01:45:53.399 --> 01:45:56.560 he actually loses a lot of money and bets. That's 1817 01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:59.600 another thing that's foreshadowing what's gonna happen to Tony, right, 1818 01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:04.680 This is on Tony's It's it's the final act of 1819 01:46:04.840 --> 01:46:09.520 Tony's story. By season six, then we have the war 1820 01:46:09.600 --> 01:46:13.119 with Johnny Sack and all of that. Johnny Sack basically 1821 01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:16.039 is the rival in the New York family to running 1822 01:46:16.079 --> 01:46:19.800 things with Carmine Jr. Carmeon Junior is kind of incompetent, 1823 01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:27.479 just kind of a goofball, but Tony can manipulate Carmine 1824 01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:30.960 Junior better than he can manipulate Johnny Sack. And so 1825 01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:33.920 this there's this rivalry, and as we know, it doesn't 1826 01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:36.960 go well for Johnny Sack. You even think that maybe 1827 01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:41.319 Johnny Sack will finally be Tony's downfall. Nope, he gets cancer, 1828 01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:45.239 ends up dead. So basically, at that point, when Johnny 1829 01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:50.680 Sack dies, Tony's won. There's nobody else to even come 1830 01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:53.279 against her stand against Tony. There's no more rivals, there's 1831 01:46:53.319 --> 01:46:56.720 no the battle is won. There's nobody else that can 1832 01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:00.520 can conceivably take Tony down. But that that's what's so 1833 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:05.439 great about how he does fall is that it's a 1834 01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:10.640 random guy. You don't ever even expect. It's nobody, it's 1835 01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:15.119 nobody important, it's nobody powerful. It's just some really pissed 1836 01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:21.760 off guy. Basically, let's see what else. Tony has a 1837 01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:24.680 really interesting dream where he meets with people that he's 1838 01:47:24.760 --> 01:47:33.560 killed Ralphie Pussy, and he sees the caterpillar and the 1839 01:47:33.680 --> 01:47:38.800 transformation to the butterfly. The caterpillars, i think, crawling on 1840 01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:43.239 Ralph's head and then it turns into it transforms into 1841 01:47:43.279 --> 01:47:48.359 the butterfly and so I think this is it's a 1842 01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:52.159 if it may not directly be an MK ultra monarch reference, 1843 01:47:53.279 --> 01:47:55.359 it's possible given the fact that the writers of the 1844 01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:59.279 show obviously do have awareness of the CIA's programs. The 1845 01:47:59.319 --> 01:48:03.520 CIA is reallylationship to the mafia. It's it's very possible 1846 01:48:03.520 --> 01:48:07.560 that they have a knowledge of Project Monarch. Perhaps there's 1847 01:48:07.600 --> 01:48:11.680 a Project Monarch element to Tony that's maybe not directly 1848 01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:14.920 being done by the CIA. But then again, maybe Tony 1849 01:48:15.119 --> 01:48:19.800 is in therapy, uh, and maybe he's been profiled as 1850 01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:24.439 somebody useful. Maybe the FEDS have Tony right in therapy 1851 01:48:24.520 --> 01:48:28.359 and and they've organized this right That's that's just speculating, 1852 01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:31.800 and that's never stated. I'm just saying that, who knows. 1853 01:48:32.119 --> 01:48:34.600 What do you think it means that Tony has this 1854 01:48:34.760 --> 01:48:37.800 dream where he sees the people that he's killed and 1855 01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:41.119 then he sees the caterpillar turning into the butterfly? Is it? 1856 01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:43.159 Is it? It is a monarch reference? Or is it 1857 01:48:43.239 --> 01:48:45.359 just symbolic? I mean, in a lot of cases in 1858 01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:50.680 literature or or imagery, monarchs are just the symbols of 1859 01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:53.920 people transforming that they're they're turning into something new. It's 1860 01:48:53.960 --> 01:48:56.479 the character turning over a new leaf. It's the character, 1861 01:48:57.680 --> 01:48:59.960 you know, coming to a new phase in his life, right, 1862 01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:03.880 And this does happen around this time where Tony has 1863 01:49:04.039 --> 01:49:08.079 his near death experience two or three. He gets shot 1864 01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:11.520 at the beginning of season six. He's in the coma 1865 01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:16.000 for several episodes, and then there's the sequence of several 1866 01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:20.000 episodes where Tony is in the in between. He's in 1867 01:49:20.039 --> 01:49:26.520 this ether, quasi purgatory, realm of the dead middle. We 1868 01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:29.800 don't know exactly where it is, but Tony's having to 1869 01:49:29.840 --> 01:49:32.039 try to figure his way out of this labyrinth that 1870 01:49:32.079 --> 01:49:35.439 he's stuck in, in this half dead, half awake state. 1871 01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:37.359 What do you think? 1872 01:49:40.680 --> 01:49:41.640 Yeah, what else do you got? 1873 01:49:43.279 --> 01:49:45.279 This is where we start realizing that the therapy's not 1874 01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:53.119 really doing anything, the Prozac's not doing anything. The Satan 1875 01:49:53.439 --> 01:49:55.760 there's something some reference to Satan but I can't read my. 1876 01:49:55.720 --> 01:49:59.600 Note episode Yeah, but that was actually kind of just 1877 01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:03.079 a joke, remember, because they did a quote seance and 1878 01:50:03.119 --> 01:50:09.680 aj played a joke on Video's kid No, I. 1879 01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:15.800 Can't read that note something Janice satan oh Janis plays 1880 01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:19.640 the Ouiji board joke where she she instant messages the 1881 01:50:19.720 --> 01:50:22.520 kids and pretends she's Satan. That was funny. That's it 1882 01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:25.239 where Janis is a Satan character. But even though it's 1883 01:50:25.279 --> 01:50:31.960 a joke, what's interesting is that Aj, Janice, Tony, Carmela, 1884 01:50:32.199 --> 01:50:34.600 they all sort of exhibit a lot of traits and 1885 01:50:34.680 --> 01:50:38.760 characteristics of being evil in a lot of ways. Not 1886 01:50:38.920 --> 01:50:42.960 totally evil, but they're definitely an evil family. You could say, 1887 01:50:44.920 --> 01:50:48.680 Tony dreams that he is the that he's his grandfather 1888 01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:52.560 looking for work. And the reason that I think that's 1889 01:50:52.600 --> 01:50:55.359 important is that that's kind of hitting at the possibility 1890 01:50:55.399 --> 01:51:00.640 of this being a Ulysses type situation James Joyce reincarnation. 1891 01:51:02.079 --> 01:51:05.960 Tony is seeing his grandfather's experience of being an immigrant, 1892 01:51:06.079 --> 01:51:09.239 poor with no money and walking around trying to find 1893 01:51:09.239 --> 01:51:12.159 a job. Because Tony tells the story to Aj, right, 1894 01:51:12.920 --> 01:51:16.800 and that's just showing that he is his ancestors, and 1895 01:51:16.840 --> 01:51:20.279 then who's his ancestors all the way back? Well, potentially 1896 01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:25.119 he is a reincarnated general. Maybe he's a Roman general. 1897 01:51:25.199 --> 01:51:27.000 And now I don't believe recarnation. I'm just saying that 1898 01:51:27.039 --> 01:51:29.560 from a literary perspective, this is common in literature. 1899 01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:33.000 I think it's interesting that Tony's son turns out to 1900 01:51:33.119 --> 01:51:37.800 be a sensitive kid and there's no way that AJ 1901 01:51:37.960 --> 01:51:43.000 could ever take Tony's place. He's taken on his depression 1902 01:51:44.640 --> 01:51:50.239 in all of his psychological problems, but he doesn't have 1903 01:51:50.279 --> 01:51:53.800 any of Tony's grit exactly. 1904 01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:59.079 He's the antithesis to Tony. He's the failed heir apparent. 1905 01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:04.960 He has no intelligence and he has no courage. AJ 1906 01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:11.840 is terrified, mainly terrified of Tony, right, And this is 1907 01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:13.479 the sense in which we see the sins of the 1908 01:52:13.520 --> 01:52:16.520 father passed on to the to the child, because when 1909 01:52:16.560 --> 01:52:19.920 Tony's in therapy, he bitches about the fact that, you know, 1910 01:52:20.159 --> 01:52:22.960 all the ways that his parents failed him, and he's 1911 01:52:22.960 --> 01:52:24.960 totally oblivious throughout his life to the way that he 1912 01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:30.359 fails AJ and Meadow. Next comes really important literary references. 1913 01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:34.520 So we have Heloe's and Abelard, we have Sons Zoo, 1914 01:52:34.600 --> 01:52:37.720 we have Animal Farm being referenced and Lord of the Flies, 1915 01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:40.880 and then we have Cold Mountain. So remember, all of 1916 01:52:40.920 --> 01:52:43.439 the literary references in the show are very important to 1917 01:52:43.600 --> 01:52:46.880 understanding what kind of a show and what kind of 1918 01:52:46.920 --> 01:52:51.159 a tragedy this is. Okay, so something like animal Form, 1919 01:52:51.239 --> 01:52:53.640 we know that this is about, you know, control, it's 1920 01:52:53.640 --> 01:52:56.520 about It's similar to nineteen eighty four. It's you know, 1921 01:52:56.600 --> 01:52:59.039 the it's a New World Order critique kind of you 1922 01:52:59.079 --> 01:53:02.159 know work from orwell. It was very famously printed and 1923 01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:05.319 published by the CIA during the Cold War. A j 1924 01:53:05.600 --> 01:53:07.439 has to read this Lord of the Flies. We know 1925 01:53:07.479 --> 01:53:11.600 that's about the law of the jungle versus uh, the 1926 01:53:11.720 --> 01:53:14.359 law of being ruled by law and order? 1927 01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:14.680 Right? 1928 01:53:14.760 --> 01:53:17.439 Is it going to be might makes right? Or is 1929 01:53:17.439 --> 01:53:21.399 it going to be a constitution law, law and order? Uh, 1930 01:53:21.479 --> 01:53:26.279 you know, rule by law Cold Mountain. I mean I 1931 01:53:26.399 --> 01:53:28.479 didn't read that. That's like a boomer mom book. I'm 1932 01:53:28.520 --> 01:53:30.840 not going to read. But I remember it being about, 1933 01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:33.439 you know, the Civil War, and it has to do 1934 01:53:33.560 --> 01:53:39.279 with you know, dying and love, love death, waiting on 1935 01:53:39.319 --> 01:53:42.239 a lover. Yeah, so that could you could see that 1936 01:53:42.279 --> 01:53:44.800 as just another tragedy, isn't it a tragedy? Doesn't somebody 1937 01:53:44.840 --> 01:53:54.479 and I'm dead? Carmela begins to cheat or she actually does. Well, 1938 01:53:54.560 --> 01:53:57.199 they're they're kind of split up. I don't think they 1939 01:53:57.359 --> 01:54:01.359 ever get divorced. But she finds uh a guide AJ's 1940 01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:04.119 admissions guidance counselor guy, and they have a brief fling 1941 01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:09.800 and that's where we get the helloas Abelard reference. Then 1942 01:54:09.800 --> 01:54:13.960 we start getting the references to attention deficit disorder IBS, 1943 01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:18.880 irritable bal syndrome, new diagnoses that were new at the 1944 01:54:18.880 --> 01:54:23.399 time early two thousands popping up once again. Tony has 1945 01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:26.920 another dream sequence where he sees the dead. He sees 1946 01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:32.039 Carmine sr. Carmine Senor says, I'm worried about the man upstairs. 1947 01:54:32.239 --> 01:54:35.760 So there's the direct reference to God. And then Tony, 1948 01:54:35.960 --> 01:54:40.359 in this really wild surrealist dream sequence, sees himself on 1949 01:54:40.520 --> 01:54:45.119 TV as a TV show. So there's a meta fourth 1950 01:54:45.319 --> 01:54:48.359 wall break where Tony is watching Tony on a TV 1951 01:54:48.439 --> 01:54:57.039 show and then we see a, uh, there's Carmela in 1952 01:54:57.119 --> 01:55:00.279 this sequence is watching a TV show for get what 1953 01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:02.640 it changes to something like France or something, and this 1954 01:55:02.920 --> 01:55:10.079 presignifies who are going to France. I think the dream 1955 01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:13.800 is a premonition something bad is going to happen, right, 1956 01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:16.039 So that's what's said in this dream. Then we have 1957 01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:21.159 the opening sequence that's very interesting about Egyptian mythology, Egyptology, 1958 01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:24.640 the Seven Souls of the Egyptian after life and death 1959 01:55:26.239 --> 01:55:30.760 ka Bah. These different references to Egyptology. This is the 1960 01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:34.000 key to what I'm talking about. This is the esoteric 1961 01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:37.479 significance of the whole show. It's giving you that old 1962 01:55:37.560 --> 01:55:44.399 school transmigration of souls James Joyce Ulysses kind of analysis. Again, 1963 01:55:44.680 --> 01:55:47.840 that's common to the ancient Greek mind. Read Plato's Republic. 1964 01:55:48.119 --> 01:55:52.079 He teaches reincarnation, transmigration of souls. That's Socrates, that's Plato, 1965 01:55:52.319 --> 01:55:57.840 that's the Greeks. Presumably other Roman literature as well, probably Virgil. 1966 01:55:57.880 --> 01:56:01.359 I'm trying to remember if the India has reincarnation. Probably 1967 01:56:02.399 --> 01:56:04.039 it's been a long time, so looked that they needed. 1968 01:56:04.079 --> 01:56:07.279 But the point is that that same idea is also 1969 01:56:07.439 --> 01:56:12.319 in ancient Egyptian philosophy and theology. Egyptology also has these 1970 01:56:12.359 --> 01:56:16.119 ideas as well. I think that's the meaning of that sequence. 1971 01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:18.920 That's really weird where you have the episode that opens 1972 01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:22.479 with why would you have an episode opening with Egyptology? 1973 01:56:23.119 --> 01:56:25.359 I mean that's just like what, right. I don't think 1974 01:56:25.399 --> 01:56:27.880 most people would have gotten this unless you knew kind 1975 01:56:27.920 --> 01:56:34.039 of about esoteric type of stuff. I made a joke 1976 01:56:34.039 --> 01:56:37.000 about or I was thinking of Tony as Dougie, right 1977 01:56:37.479 --> 01:56:40.239 when Tony's in the dream world. No, it's when he 1978 01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:42.720 first comes out of his coma, right when he's had 1979 01:56:42.760 --> 01:56:45.279 his near death experience. He comes back and he's like 1980 01:56:45.359 --> 01:56:50.760 Dougie in season three or twin Peaks. Then we get 1981 01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:55.359 the fall of Junior. Junior in is up with dementia. 1982 01:56:57.079 --> 01:56:59.720 The Junior episode is the key. So let's remember that 1983 01:56:59.760 --> 01:57:02.600 by season six, we're now starting to get where the 1984 01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:07.239 whole show is going. We see in season actually season six, 1985 01:57:07.319 --> 01:57:09.600 episode one is the key to the whole end of 1986 01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:12.560 the show, to the finale, and to all of season six, 1987 01:57:13.159 --> 01:57:18.399 because Junior, with dementia grabs the gun thinks Tony is 1988 01:57:18.439 --> 01:57:21.279 an intruder. Because Junior is basically living in another time, 1989 01:57:22.119 --> 01:57:24.920 he thinks it's the sixties, and so he thinks that 1990 01:57:24.960 --> 01:57:28.840 all these you know, old whatever operations and scams they 1991 01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:33.359 were doing in the sixties is happening now. This this 1992 01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:39.399 mental state of Junior basically going back in time. This 1993 01:57:39.439 --> 01:57:43.760 is another reference to this whole idea of reincarnation. It's 1994 01:57:43.880 --> 01:57:47.479 the fact that Junior is living in another time because 1995 01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:52.560 actually the other characters are just it's an eternal return. 1996 01:57:52.600 --> 01:57:57.279 They're representing the tragedies of the ancient world. It's all 1997 01:57:57.399 --> 01:58:01.840 just recurring. That's the whole philosophy here, that's the Egyptian philosophy. 1998 01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:03.600 I think I think that's right. I'm not any expert 1999 01:58:03.640 --> 01:58:07.640 on Egyptology, but I think that's correct. If I'm wrong 2000 01:58:07.640 --> 01:58:11.520 about Egyptology and the seven souls of the Egyptian after 2001 01:58:11.560 --> 01:58:13.800 life and death and after life, somebody can correct me 2002 01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:20.520 in the chat. But I think that's right. But where 2003 01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:24.800 was that going with? So episode one of season six, 2004 01:58:25.840 --> 01:58:30.359 Junior shoots Tony and it ends with Tony dying basically, 2005 01:58:30.840 --> 01:58:34.600 not totally, but going into this what you think is 2006 01:58:34.600 --> 01:58:36.840 his death. He lays there, the phones next to him, 2007 01:58:36.840 --> 01:58:39.279 he barely hits nine to one to one, and then 2008 01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:42.680 the camera comes down or up. I forget how it goes, 2009 01:58:42.720 --> 01:58:45.640 but you just see Tony laying there in blood, and 2010 01:58:45.640 --> 01:58:49.359 then you see Tony laying in the hospital bed. Those 2011 01:58:49.399 --> 01:58:52.920 are sequences that will tell you in the final episode 2012 01:58:52.960 --> 01:58:57.399 what's going to happen. It's a foreshadowing. It's a almost 2013 01:58:57.560 --> 01:59:01.880 death foreshadowing the death it Tony is going to die 2014 01:59:02.159 --> 01:59:05.159 the beginning. I think it's the beginning. This is spoiler alert. 2015 01:59:05.239 --> 01:59:09.479 The finale. It opens with Tony again laying in the 2016 01:59:09.479 --> 01:59:12.439 bed asleep, and some music is playing, some weird music. 2017 01:59:12.479 --> 01:59:14.960 I forget what it is. In the Goofy Organs or 2018 01:59:14.960 --> 01:59:19.600 something that he hears, and that's foreshadowing that. Again, that 2019 01:59:19.800 --> 01:59:24.680 death imagery is like sleep. It's just like season six, 2020 01:59:24.760 --> 01:59:28.920 episode one, Sleep and Death right all telling you what's 2021 01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:34.600 going to happen. A couple side points. There's more literary 2022 01:59:34.640 --> 01:59:38.359 references here that will tell you that Tony's gonna die, 2023 01:59:39.720 --> 01:59:42.920 and not just Tony but also a Jan Cremelo. This is, 2024 01:59:42.960 --> 01:59:45.119 of course the disputed point, but I think it's if you, 2025 01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:47.399 if you really think about this, it's not that hard 2026 01:59:47.439 --> 01:59:50.800 to figure out what's going on. But basically we're we're 2027 01:59:50.840 --> 01:59:53.159 gonna have to see the death of Christopher first. Tony's 2028 01:59:53.159 --> 01:59:57.319 going to finally kill off his main guy. And the 2029 01:59:57.399 --> 02:00:00.920 reason he does it is because Christopher has gotten back 2030 02:00:00.960 --> 02:00:04.279 into being an addict, right, He's back into doing heroin. 2031 02:00:04.680 --> 02:00:07.600 When Christopher wrecks the truck and almost kills them both, 2032 02:00:07.960 --> 02:00:12.119 it's because he was high and because Christopher wasn't wearing 2033 02:00:12.119 --> 02:00:14.399 a seat belt, which actually Tony had told him to. 2034 02:00:14.560 --> 02:00:19.520 But they roll over however many times, and Christopher is 2035 02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:25.760 basically bleeding out uh, and Tony realizes that he was high, 2036 02:00:25.840 --> 02:00:28.640 so he betrayed the promise that he would not go 2037 02:00:28.720 --> 02:00:32.039 back to Heroin. So Tony just grabs his nose right 2038 02:00:32.399 --> 02:00:35.960 and suffocates him, and then of course lies, you know, 2039 02:00:36.039 --> 02:00:38.920 oh it wasn't me, it was the Wrack blah blah blah. 2040 02:00:39.279 --> 02:00:43.359 So now basically Tony has committed his final act of 2041 02:00:43.479 --> 02:00:45.439 I guess you could say betrayal. I mean, even though 2042 02:00:45.439 --> 02:00:49.359 we know that in many ways Tony was forced to 2043 02:00:49.479 --> 02:00:53.560 kind of kill these people, there's still evil actions, right, 2044 02:00:53.560 --> 02:00:57.880 He's still this bringer of death. I think the key 2045 02:00:57.920 --> 02:01:01.720 to six ironically, in terms of what's gonna happen, there's 2046 02:01:01.720 --> 02:01:07.199 a couple of things that AJ does. AJ says, he 2047 02:01:07.239 --> 02:01:11.399 starts laying out these weird this sort of spouting out 2048 02:01:11.399 --> 02:01:14.439 stuff about geopolitics. It's very bizarre because AJ is a 2049 02:01:14.439 --> 02:01:18.199 complete idiot, and we think maybe AJ's realized he's an idiot, 2050 02:01:18.239 --> 02:01:20.640 and so he starts going and reading the news and 2051 02:01:20.640 --> 02:01:22.359 he starts trying to figure out in the Middle East. 2052 02:01:22.880 --> 02:01:24.159 We hear him talking about, well. 2053 02:01:24.079 --> 02:01:26.079 I sat in on these lectures about the Middle East, 2054 02:01:26.119 --> 02:01:28.960 and he's really weird and crazy that that kind of 2055 02:01:29.000 --> 02:01:29.880 crap's going on. 2056 02:01:30.000 --> 02:01:34.000 And then remember what AJ says, He says, I don't know, 2057 02:01:34.079 --> 02:01:35.760 I was thinking, like I could go be in the 2058 02:01:35.800 --> 02:01:38.640 Cia or something. I could go like fight the al 2059 02:01:38.720 --> 02:01:42.680 Qaeda And then He's like, and then after that, I 2060 02:01:42.680 --> 02:01:45.760 could like learn to fly helicopters, and I could be 2061 02:01:46.079 --> 02:01:50.039 Donald Trump's pilot. Tony's like, oh, is that right? 2062 02:01:50.119 --> 02:01:53.119 You're gonna go be the Donald's pilot? Is that after 2063 02:01:53.199 --> 02:01:58.159 you go fly over to Iraq and killoadas over there? 2064 02:01:58.840 --> 02:02:03.279 Tony just laughs at this because it's ludicrous. But there's 2065 02:02:03.359 --> 02:02:06.960 an irony that AJ has actually kind of figured out 2066 02:02:07.399 --> 02:02:13.520 some of the problem here. And AJ says America is 2067 02:02:13.760 --> 02:02:19.239 like this big consumerist thing, and he says, you guys 2068 02:02:19.319 --> 02:02:24.920 talking to the family represent the excessive materialism and consumerism 2069 02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:27.399 of America, and you guys are living in a dream 2070 02:02:27.439 --> 02:02:31.840 and a fantasy. And so the irony here that if 2071 02:02:31.880 --> 02:02:36.800 we were to use archetypes, AJ is the fool AJ Paully. 2072 02:02:37.439 --> 02:02:41.520 Those are full archetypes. They're idiots. But good literature will 2073 02:02:41.600 --> 02:02:46.680 usually have the idiot fool character have wisdom, right, because 2074 02:02:46.680 --> 02:02:50.000 he'll have a perspective as an idiot that nobody else sees. 2075 02:02:50.079 --> 02:02:54.680 Everybody else is missing the obvious. And so again AJ Paully, 2076 02:02:54.800 --> 02:02:57.399 the two fool characters are going to consistently have. 2077 02:02:57.479 --> 02:03:00.079 Insights it's like that meme where the low iq. 2078 02:03:01.479 --> 02:03:08.399 Exactly right, exactly exactly. Then we see Aja taking on 2079 02:03:08.479 --> 02:03:12.159 these you know, he gets really into justice in the geopolitics, 2080 02:03:12.199 --> 02:03:13.960 the Middle East and all this stuff, which he's not 2081 02:03:14.000 --> 02:03:17.000 necessarily wrong. A lot of what he starts reading about 2082 02:03:17.039 --> 02:03:19.039 he's kind of right about. And then he has that 2083 02:03:19.119 --> 02:03:23.279 big spill at the at Artie's Restaurant where he calls 2084 02:03:23.319 --> 02:03:26.159 their body hypocrites and he says Americanism as stupid. It's 2085 02:03:26.199 --> 02:03:28.920 a dream, It's going to end. And this is right 2086 02:03:28.960 --> 02:03:31.640 after the Big nine event, and in many ways AJ's correct. 2087 02:03:31.720 --> 02:03:36.439 Then we have Aj reading the Yates poem William Butler 2088 02:03:36.520 --> 02:03:43.239 Yates Golden Dawn BFF with Crowley, the famous anti Christ poem. 2089 02:03:44.600 --> 02:03:48.800 Now and maybe in a big deeper sense there's a 2090 02:03:48.960 --> 02:03:54.199 meaning which is esoteric on a in times level. I 2091 02:03:54.239 --> 02:03:55.960 don't really think that's what the show is going for. 2092 02:03:56.600 --> 02:03:59.000 I think that they've stuck the Yates poem in here 2093 02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:06.039 because it's the beast that slouches towards Bethlehem to be 2094 02:04:06.119 --> 02:04:10.399 born is signifying the end of Tony. This is another 2095 02:04:10.520 --> 02:04:14.039 ominous prediction and reference to the coming death of Tony. 2096 02:04:15.039 --> 02:04:17.920 Tony is a kind of Antichrist. Tony is a kind 2097 02:04:17.960 --> 02:04:28.600 of beast. He's consistently referred to like a beast. In 2098 02:04:28.720 --> 02:04:32.760 the Apocalypse of John, Nero is the beast. Nero is 2099 02:04:32.760 --> 02:04:35.039 the Roman Emperor, and so in a way we could 2100 02:04:35.039 --> 02:04:37.920 almost see Tony like a kind of Roman emperor. And 2101 02:04:38.039 --> 02:04:43.880 Tony is going to meet his demise. Obviously in these 2102 02:04:44.039 --> 02:04:51.000 ominous prophetic warnings. I can't read that note something versus. 2103 02:04:53.359 --> 02:04:53.600 Deep. 2104 02:04:54.560 --> 02:05:00.319 I don't know what this says. Something big is coming. Yeah, 2105 02:05:00.359 --> 02:05:04.319 that's the reference to the Yates poem. Is that we 2106 02:05:04.439 --> 02:05:07.239 get the impressions something has come. It's the end times 2107 02:05:07.960 --> 02:05:12.079 for Tony. That's what it means. And then we have 2108 02:05:12.199 --> 02:05:18.920 the reference to uh, is this the last page? I 2109 02:05:18.960 --> 02:05:21.920 thought I had another page of notes about Tony doing acid. 2110 02:05:21.960 --> 02:05:24.920 Now that the acid sequence or the Peyote sequence is 2111 02:05:24.920 --> 02:05:30.039 important because it's another indicator of Tony seeing the beyond. 2112 02:05:30.600 --> 02:05:32.800 So when he goes to Vegas to party and he 2113 02:05:32.840 --> 02:05:37.439 does payote, he it's almost like his after death experience 2114 02:05:37.479 --> 02:05:40.920 where he says, has this revelation. Then he goes back 2115 02:05:40.960 --> 02:05:43.439 and he tells the psychiat you have it in the Peyotes. 2116 02:05:44.439 --> 02:05:48.439 Yeah, I'll tell you right now, do here This ain't 2117 02:05:48.439 --> 02:05:52.359 old a rich, this ain't ash. When I've done the pots. 2118 02:05:52.640 --> 02:05:53.399 I've seen it. 2119 02:05:53.399 --> 02:05:55.720 It's more an ish, It's more than a dish. 2120 02:05:55.800 --> 02:05:58.560 So Tony has seen that there is more than just 2121 02:05:58.600 --> 02:06:00.800 the here and the now. And so in a sense 2122 02:06:00.840 --> 02:06:05.760 again that Peyoti vision is an indicator of his coming death. 2123 02:06:06.720 --> 02:06:09.520 He's about to experience and meet that there's more than this. 2124 02:06:10.920 --> 02:06:15.159 And then we have the important reference to the CIA 2125 02:06:15.680 --> 02:06:19.359 working with the mafia in season six, in the last episode, 2126 02:06:19.760 --> 02:06:22.840 I think it's like it's either the right last couple, 2127 02:06:22.880 --> 02:06:25.399 but the FBI agent that is kind of, you know, 2128 02:06:25.960 --> 02:06:29.439 talking to Tony and trying to kind of butter him 2129 02:06:29.520 --> 02:06:32.000 up and get some info from him. He says, well, 2130 02:06:32.039 --> 02:06:36.239 you know, Tony, look, why don't you come tell us 2131 02:06:36.239 --> 02:06:38.880 some stuff? You know, come work with us. Look, he says, 2132 02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:44.680 your people hid and worked with the CIA when you 2133 02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:49.840 guys were hiding Lucky Luciano, right, And so the FBI 2134 02:06:49.920 --> 02:06:54.239 is consciously kind of drawing on that old CIA mafia alliance. 2135 02:06:54.279 --> 02:06:58.199 It's specifically mentioned does he do ayahuasca or is it Paoti? 2136 02:06:58.279 --> 02:07:01.000 I don't remember whatever I mean. He he has a 2137 02:07:01.159 --> 02:07:07.239 serious intense trip that he references to seeing the beyond 2138 02:07:07.319 --> 02:07:13.399 the spiritual world, the afterlife. So no, so people are saying, yes, 2139 02:07:13.520 --> 02:07:16.079 I assure you, if you go watch the show and 2140 02:07:16.079 --> 02:07:19.159 you pay attention to all these references, you're going to 2141 02:07:19.239 --> 02:07:21.600 find that this is all there. I mean that they're 2142 02:07:21.640 --> 02:07:25.800 not just referencing Egyptian the Journey of the Soul after 2143 02:07:26.039 --> 02:07:31.680 after death, William Butler yeats is Chrolean poem or whatever. 2144 02:07:31.920 --> 02:07:33.800 I mean. This is in there on purpose. This is 2145 02:07:33.840 --> 02:07:38.119 not accidental. They're not constantly referencing the CIA's connection to 2146 02:07:38.159 --> 02:07:42.800 the mafia for no reason. It's there intentionally, okay. And 2147 02:07:42.800 --> 02:07:45.439 I assure you, if you go take graduate lit classes, 2148 02:07:45.880 --> 02:07:49.039 they're going to talk to you about the prevalence of 2149 02:07:49.079 --> 02:07:52.439 eternal return. If you do Joyce Ulysses, they're going to 2150 02:07:52.479 --> 02:07:57.960 talk about reincarnation. So the book's about. So that's what 2151 02:07:58.000 --> 02:08:02.680 the Sopranos is about. It's an intent to tell a 2152 02:08:02.880 --> 02:08:09.359 tragedy dramedy story that's like great literature and references all 2153 02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:13.960 that great literature on all of these different levels. And 2154 02:08:14.279 --> 02:08:18.399 it executed it perfectly. And by the way, just to 2155 02:08:18.720 --> 02:08:23.239 sum up here, as we come to the clothes, it's 2156 02:08:23.279 --> 02:08:27.840 pretty I did not look at other analyzes before I 2157 02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:33.760 formed my opinion of the finale. I watched very closely, 2158 02:08:33.840 --> 02:08:36.479 and I had taken copious notes throughout the show, so 2159 02:08:36.520 --> 02:08:41.359 I was looking for symbols, patterns, recurring things, clues, and yes, 2160 02:08:41.720 --> 02:08:45.319 the clue, what do we say the jacket? The jacket 2161 02:08:45.439 --> 02:08:49.399 was the clue that Richie you know, gave to Tony 2162 02:08:49.479 --> 02:08:52.199 or whatever. And then what do we get in the 2163 02:08:52.199 --> 02:08:56.840 final sequence as they enter into the diner. The guy 2164 02:08:56.920 --> 02:08:59.960 in the member's only jacket. It's the same gray members 2165 02:09:00.159 --> 02:09:03.079 only jacket that Gino had. Gino is the guy that 2166 02:09:03.119 --> 02:09:07.359 Tony screwed over. We know that Tony's gonna die because 2167 02:09:07.359 --> 02:09:10.960 of season six, episode one, which foreshadows the finale. We 2168 02:09:11.039 --> 02:09:14.039 know that Tony is dying again. Obviously if you if 2169 02:09:14.079 --> 02:09:17.239 you read other people's analysis, this became very clear because 2170 02:09:17.439 --> 02:09:21.199 when Tony is talking to who's the fat guy that 2171 02:09:21.319 --> 02:09:24.359 ends up with Jennis? Bobby Bobby and they're out on 2172 02:09:24.399 --> 02:09:28.960 the boat and Bobby says, I think it's like, you know, 2173 02:09:30.000 --> 02:09:33.720 you don't hear nothing. You just you go black, You 2174 02:09:33.720 --> 02:09:37.159 don't hear nothing, and Tony's Tony is sitting there and 2175 02:09:37.159 --> 02:09:38.720 he hears him say this, and he thinks about it 2176 02:09:38.760 --> 02:09:43.560 and then Tony remembers Syl explaining that when he was 2177 02:09:43.560 --> 02:09:46.239 out at dinner and somebody came in and shot the 2178 02:09:46.239 --> 02:09:50.600 person he was with, Sill says, I didn't hear nothing. 2179 02:09:50.760 --> 02:09:54.039 You don't hear nothing. It's like it goes black. 2180 02:09:54.399 --> 02:09:57.399 You see a you see a blash, a flash. 2181 02:09:57.039 --> 02:10:02.439 Of light, and then afterwards you hear so And the 2182 02:10:02.479 --> 02:10:05.560 way that episode was shot is that the gun goes 2183 02:10:05.600 --> 02:10:09.279 off and then you hear it. So they wanted you 2184 02:10:09.560 --> 02:10:12.520 to have that vantage point that still had in that episode. 2185 02:10:12.960 --> 02:10:15.680 They wanted you to pay attention to the member's only jacket. 2186 02:10:16.039 --> 02:10:19.039 And it's not Geno that kills because Geno commits suicide. 2187 02:10:19.600 --> 02:10:24.960 So presumably this guy with Gino's gray members only jacket, right, 2188 02:10:25.840 --> 02:10:30.760 that's his brother, some relative that's furious that Tony is 2189 02:10:30.800 --> 02:10:34.680 the reason his brother killed himself. Or presumably he thinks 2190 02:10:34.760 --> 02:10:35.680 that Tony killed. 2191 02:10:35.479 --> 02:10:39.880 The guy, right, Because season six, he's got all these 2192 02:10:39.960 --> 02:10:46.640 landlines that he has to navigate, and he presumably comes 2193 02:10:46.640 --> 02:10:51.640 out on top at the end, But he has not 2194 02:10:52.560 --> 02:10:58.000 improved his soul. He hasn't repented of anything. He went 2195 02:10:58.039 --> 02:11:00.199 back to his cheating, he went back to lying, start 2196 02:11:00.199 --> 02:11:00.920 to killing people. 2197 02:11:04.359 --> 02:11:08.119 Yes, don't forget too, uh, Polly. Polly is key to 2198 02:11:08.199 --> 02:11:12.439 understanding the last episode, ironically, because Polly has the vision 2199 02:11:12.520 --> 02:11:16.039 of Mary in the strip club. I sink the virgin stript, 2200 02:11:16.880 --> 02:11:19.199 I tell you, Tea. I don't tell nobody this usually, 2201 02:11:19.600 --> 02:11:21.840 but I sink the Virgin Mary. I seen them in 2202 02:11:21.880 --> 02:11:25.520 the club and the butto being on My Life, tea, 2203 02:11:26.119 --> 02:11:29.199 I've seen it. So he sees Mary and this is 2204 02:11:29.239 --> 02:11:32.760 an omen and it freaks Paulie out. That's not at 2205 02:11:32.800 --> 02:11:35.000 the last up, it's but later on. And then Polly 2206 02:11:35.079 --> 02:11:39.640 sees this cat and the cat stares at Christopher, the 2207 02:11:39.680 --> 02:11:44.279 picture of Christopher in their little restaurant room there and 2208 02:11:44.319 --> 02:11:46.520 if and Paulie's really superstitious, and he's. 2209 02:11:46.399 --> 02:11:48.600 Like, get rid of that cat. I don't like that cat. 2210 02:11:48.640 --> 02:11:50.039 I don't like cats. I don't like that cat. 2211 02:11:50.039 --> 02:11:52.119 I'm gonna kill that cat. And they're all at that 2212 02:11:52.680 --> 02:11:54.279 leave it a cat alone. I like that cat. 2213 02:11:54.399 --> 02:11:54.960 Leave him alone. 2214 02:11:54.960 --> 02:11:57.239 He's just looking at a picture. He's so superstitious were 2215 02:11:57.279 --> 02:11:59.119 talking about, and he's I'm gonna kill that cat. 2216 02:11:59.119 --> 02:11:59.319 Tea. 2217 02:11:59.560 --> 02:12:01.840 I sweat got him, gonna call that kit tea And 2218 02:12:02.319 --> 02:12:06.319 the cat walks out in the last sequence, and Polly 2219 02:12:06.399 --> 02:12:06.960 looks at. 2220 02:12:06.800 --> 02:12:09.640 It, and he knows it's an omen. He's like, something bait, 2221 02:12:09.640 --> 02:12:12.560 It's gonna happen. That cat, something bait, it's gonna happen. 2222 02:12:12.560 --> 02:12:16.319 I'm telling you tea, Tony's gonna get killed. Now, why 2223 02:12:16.359 --> 02:12:18.880 would there be a sequence of the Omen of the 2224 02:12:18.920 --> 02:12:23.279 Cat if nothing bad happens. Obviously, something bad happens in 2225 02:12:23.359 --> 02:12:27.439 the last sequence, and when Tony walks in and the 2226 02:12:28.479 --> 02:12:29.119 guy who. 2227 02:12:28.960 --> 02:12:31.479 Did the show or the whoever produced that director of 2228 02:12:31.479 --> 02:12:34.680 the final episode talks about the fact that they intentionally 2229 02:12:34.720 --> 02:12:37.119 wanted it to be like two thousand and one, where 2230 02:12:37.159 --> 02:12:42.800 Bowman sees he dissociates, he sees himself. When Tony walks 2231 02:12:42.840 --> 02:12:46.600 into the diner, Tony's standing in the doorway, he sees 2232 02:12:46.720 --> 02:12:50.720 himself sitting at the other end of the restaurant, looking 2233 02:12:50.760 --> 02:12:54.199 back at himself. The director says, I intentionally wanted that 2234 02:12:54.239 --> 02:12:56.479 to be like the sequence in two thousand and one 2235 02:12:56.520 --> 02:13:00.199 with Bowman seeing himself in these different phases of his life. 2236 02:13:00.520 --> 02:13:03.520 Tony is dissociating, he's seeing himself, he's seeing that he's 2237 02:13:03.560 --> 02:13:06.960 about to die, but he doesn't exactly know how this 2238 02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:08.640 is gonna go down. So he goes and he sits 2239 02:13:08.640 --> 02:13:13.119 down the dings of the door obviously are the key, Like, 2240 02:13:13.159 --> 02:13:15.520 these dings have no meaning if nobody's gonna get killed. 2241 02:13:16.159 --> 02:13:18.880 But the ding is telling you that every time Tony 2242 02:13:18.920 --> 02:13:21.680 hears a ding, he's got to look up because it 2243 02:13:21.720 --> 02:13:24.560 could be somebody walking into killing. This is the life 2244 02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:29.079 that Tony's lived. And so the whole point of the 2245 02:13:29.199 --> 02:13:33.239 parking sequence with Meadow is because it's telling you that 2246 02:13:33.399 --> 02:13:38.359 Meadow is missing. Luckily, she's about to miss this bad 2247 02:13:38.720 --> 02:13:44.000 ultimate end times that's coming. So yes, the guy in 2248 02:13:43.760 --> 02:13:47.319 the member's only jacket gets up walks into the bathroom. 2249 02:13:47.439 --> 02:13:50.560 Why is he going into the bathroom? Because what does 2250 02:13:51.039 --> 02:13:56.560 AJ say to Tony? Tony, he says, Dad, Dad, Your 2251 02:13:56.600 --> 02:14:00.199 favorite scene in The Godfather is when Michael Corleone. 2252 02:13:59.640 --> 02:14:02.760 Gets to go get the gun in the bathroom. 2253 02:14:03.199 --> 02:14:05.920 That's obviously the key. If you've watched The godfel you 2254 02:14:05.960 --> 02:14:09.119 know it. AJ tells Tony that they've watched the movie 2255 02:14:09.119 --> 02:14:12.199 a thousand times and it's Tony's favorite scene. That's how 2256 02:14:12.239 --> 02:14:14.800 Tony's gonna die. The guy in the member's only jacket 2257 02:14:14.840 --> 02:14:17.880 is going into the bathroom just like The Godfather. It's obvious, right, 2258 02:14:18.520 --> 02:14:22.439 And then of course the whole point of the final sequence, obviously, 2259 02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:26.000 is that it goes black because he doesn't hear it, 2260 02:14:27.199 --> 02:14:29.800 and he doesn't hear it because of what Sill and 2261 02:14:29.880 --> 02:14:31.800 Bobby told him. I don't think you even hear it 2262 02:14:31.840 --> 02:14:35.199 when it happens, you just go black, right, And that's 2263 02:14:35.239 --> 02:14:38.560 why the ding of the door is Meadow not being 2264 02:14:38.600 --> 02:14:44.119 shot and presumably Carmela and Aj being killed. So Tony, Carmela, 2265 02:14:44.199 --> 02:14:47.760 and Aj all end up dead, and it's clear that 2266 02:14:47.840 --> 02:14:52.720 a Meadow has for whatever reason, avoided this because I 2267 02:14:52.800 --> 02:14:54.600 don't know. I mean, you could argue why she's not. 2268 02:14:54.920 --> 02:14:56.840 Is it just fate? Is it just chance? Is it 2269 02:14:56.880 --> 02:15:00.520 because she was the first to realize it was all problem. 2270 02:15:00.600 --> 02:15:06.600 Maybe because she got a legitimate job and didn't choose 2271 02:15:06.640 --> 02:15:07.439 a life of crime. 2272 02:15:07.720 --> 02:15:09.680 Well there was another Yeah, in the last season, there's 2273 02:15:09.680 --> 02:15:11.760 an important sequence where she gets drunk. Do you remember 2274 02:15:11.760 --> 02:15:15.239 that she has her drunken breakdown at when they're all 2275 02:15:15.279 --> 02:15:20.119 singing songs and she starts she's no, they're at the restaurant, 2276 02:15:20.119 --> 02:15:24.439 and she starts throwing things. Okay, but they're at the restaurant, yeah, 2277 02:15:24.479 --> 02:15:28.399 and she's she's throwing things that Junior when he's singing, right, 2278 02:15:28.520 --> 02:15:31.239 And then she gets up and has her drunken tell 2279 02:15:31.279 --> 02:15:34.279 them all off. But what she says is true, right, 2280 02:15:34.399 --> 02:15:39.199 So so maybe because she saw what was true and 2281 02:15:39.319 --> 02:15:43.279 acted on it, and she she remembers, she distances herself, 2282 02:15:43.960 --> 02:15:45.960 she moves out of the house, she goes off, she 2283 02:15:46.000 --> 02:15:47.760 wants to be at college. She wants to be away 2284 02:15:47.760 --> 02:15:52.239 from them. She goes to California, not even because he 2285 02:15:52.279 --> 02:15:56.159 really likes that guy, it's to get away. So maybe 2286 02:15:56.199 --> 02:16:00.760 she's spared because the impetus for most of the show 2287 02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:03.199 on the part of Meadow is to get out of 2288 02:16:03.239 --> 02:16:05.159 that lifestyle and to get away from her family. Even 2289 02:16:05.199 --> 02:16:07.920 though she loves her family, she knows deep down that 2290 02:16:07.960 --> 02:16:10.920 this is wrong. They're all wrong. There's something seriously wrong 2291 02:16:10.960 --> 02:16:13.840 with his family, but she can't get them to admit it. 2292 02:16:14.399 --> 02:16:17.800 And aj even though he also kind of starts to 2293 02:16:17.800 --> 02:16:21.159 realize this, he's just an idiot. He doesn't do anything 2294 02:16:21.880 --> 02:16:24.279 to make a change or to get out of this. 2295 02:16:24.600 --> 02:16:30.439 He just is there. He's like a rock. So I 2296 02:16:30.479 --> 02:16:33.040 think there may be a couple of the details that 2297 02:16:33.079 --> 02:16:36.200 I'm forgetting. Remember the horse getting burned. I mean, basically, 2298 02:16:36.280 --> 02:16:39.360 anything that Tony does find an attachment to ends up dead. 2299 02:16:40.040 --> 02:16:41.680 I don't think the bear ends up dead, but the 2300 02:16:41.680 --> 02:16:45.639 Baron never comes back. But there's other clues I'm sure 2301 02:16:45.639 --> 02:16:50.639 that I'm missing. And when it comes to what may 2302 02:16:50.680 --> 02:16:54.879 have been the reason for Tony being killed, some people, 2303 02:16:54.920 --> 02:17:00.520 I think speculate that maybe the Member's only guy Gino 2304 02:17:00.680 --> 02:17:05.000 had been flipped and the members only jacket guy. I 2305 02:17:05.040 --> 02:17:08.040 think there's a statement made to Gino that you're the 2306 02:17:08.159 --> 02:17:12.360 FBI's top hitter now, so maybe they had turned Geno, 2307 02:17:12.600 --> 02:17:15.840 or maybe this is an FBI hit on Tony. I 2308 02:17:15.840 --> 02:17:20.360 don't know. You could speculate that The only other plausible 2309 02:17:20.760 --> 02:17:25.520 sort of theory is that Tony's not killed. It's just 2310 02:17:25.639 --> 02:17:30.600 giving you the sequence the experience of Tony that at 2311 02:17:30.600 --> 02:17:33.719 every moment he does fear for his life. I don't 2312 02:17:33.760 --> 02:17:36.239 buy that. I mean, there's all of these clues throughout 2313 02:17:36.319 --> 02:17:39.280 the rest of the show in season six that are 2314 02:17:39.319 --> 02:17:41.239 obviously telling you that Tony's killed. 2315 02:17:41.280 --> 02:17:41.920 I don't think. 2316 02:17:42.079 --> 02:17:45.360 I mean, it's ludicrous to say that he's not. What's 2317 02:17:45.399 --> 02:17:48.680 the point of the whole sequence of Meadow not being 2318 02:17:48.760 --> 02:17:52.440 able to park on time? If Tony's not killed, that's 2319 02:17:52.479 --> 02:17:55.040 the whole point of that sequence. There's no other reason 2320 02:17:55.079 --> 02:17:59.840 for that. Obviously right, because it's she's narrowly missing getting killed, 2321 02:18:00.040 --> 02:18:02.680 would have been sitting right next to Tony and that 2322 02:18:02.879 --> 02:18:05.319 you know, presumably the bullet would have hit her or 2323 02:18:05.520 --> 02:18:08.120 he would have shot again all four members of the family. 2324 02:18:08.680 --> 02:18:19.440 So yes, that's my analysis. There you go. So it's 2325 02:18:19.520 --> 02:18:23.079 a tragedy. It's a tragedy comedy deals with all the 2326 02:18:23.079 --> 02:18:25.799 big questions in life, all the great big literature questions. 2327 02:18:26.799 --> 02:18:34.600 Ultimately it's still a pagan, psychoanalytical union eternal return psychodrama. 2328 02:18:35.920 --> 02:18:38.040 But still if you look at it from a literary 2329 02:18:38.079 --> 02:18:41.920 perspective and from a cultural perspective, and from just as 2330 02:18:41.920 --> 02:18:43.920 an artistic piece, it's a masterpiece. 2331 02:18:44.959 --> 02:18:52.159 And it was so realistic that real mobsters would watch 2332 02:18:52.200 --> 02:18:54.520 it and they thought that somebody from the inside was 2333 02:18:54.559 --> 02:18:59.159 feeding the show information because it was really. 2334 02:19:01.079 --> 02:19:02.920 Well. As I said, some of the articles I read 2335 02:19:02.959 --> 02:19:05.879 on it did speculate that it was based on the 2336 02:19:06.079 --> 02:19:10.239 the Cavalcante family. So I'm sure, again, I don't I 2337 02:19:10.239 --> 02:19:14.120 haven't looked into what they were specifically, you know, all 2338 02:19:14.159 --> 02:19:16.719 the writers were going to but I wouldn't be surprised. 2339 02:19:16.760 --> 02:19:18.639 I mean, I'm sure. I mean, it's just like when 2340 02:19:18.639 --> 02:19:22.520 Mario Puzzo did the Godfather novel. He went and just 2341 02:19:22.600 --> 02:19:26.000 collected real stories and just kind of kind of, you know, 2342 02:19:26.319 --> 02:19:30.559 composited it. So I don't doubt that at all. I 2343 02:19:30.559 --> 02:19:32.680 mean we saw that with Godfather three. I mean that 2344 02:19:32.760 --> 02:19:34.520 the you know, the Godfather three gets into the p 2345 02:19:34.680 --> 02:19:39.680 two lodge, the Mafia working with the CIA working, you know, 2346 02:19:39.760 --> 02:19:43.479 the relationship with the Vatican, John Paul the first being assassinated. 2347 02:19:43.520 --> 02:19:47.680 Oh that's real, that's all true, you know, historic fact. 2348 02:19:48.360 --> 02:19:51.760 Godfather three, the movie even gets into the Vatican banking 2349 02:19:51.799 --> 02:19:55.319 scandal with Roberto calve There's a character in Godfather three 2350 02:19:55.319 --> 02:19:58.920 that's Roberto Calvie. So I wouldn't be surprised if if 2351 02:19:58.959 --> 02:20:07.360 the uh, the Sopranos wasn't as mafia consulted as the Godfather. 2352 02:20:09.520 --> 02:20:12.239 But I don't know that for sure. All right, So 2353 02:20:12.280 --> 02:20:15.920 I hope you guys enjoyed this full on breakdown. I 2354 02:20:15.959 --> 02:20:18.600 think it. I think we broke it down good. I 2355 02:20:18.639 --> 02:20:20.959 do apologize because I feel like I'm missing a couple 2356 02:20:21.000 --> 02:20:24.120 of details with the finale. I think I've hit all 2357 02:20:24.159 --> 02:20:28.000 the highlights though. Oh the cat when Tony walks into 2358 02:20:28.239 --> 02:20:35.120 the restaurant, that yellow tabby cat, that Polly says, as 2359 02:20:35.159 --> 02:20:38.159 an omen, you see a giant yellow cat up on 2360 02:20:38.360 --> 02:20:42.200 the mural right beneath where Tony's gonna die. I don't 2361 02:20:42.239 --> 02:20:46.280 think that's accidental, because that's it. That's the omen. Yeah. 2362 02:20:46.360 --> 02:20:48.360 Then there's a lot of other details like that. And 2363 02:20:48.680 --> 02:20:51.600 I've only seen the show once through, so I would 2364 02:20:52.000 --> 02:20:56.000 guarantee you that knowing that if you went back, I 2365 02:20:56.000 --> 02:20:58.120 mean there's no you would find I'm sure all kinds 2366 02:20:58.120 --> 02:21:00.000 of you know stuff. I mean that you could die 2367 02:21:00.120 --> 02:21:02.200 sect this like you could dis sect Twin Peaks. I 2368 02:21:02.200 --> 02:21:04.559 mean it would be like a you know, a never 2369 02:21:04.719 --> 02:21:06.719 ending that section type of thing. And that's why this 2370 02:21:06.920 --> 02:21:09.559 does you know this is up there with you know, 2371 02:21:09.559 --> 02:21:13.959 two thousand and one with Kubrick eyesway shut, it's up 2372 02:21:14.000 --> 02:21:19.040 there with twin Peaks, David Lynch stuff, for that level 2373 02:21:19.079 --> 02:21:23.159 of depth that you really can decode it forever, and 2374 02:21:23.239 --> 02:21:26.200 that's when you know it's something good. Jack five dollars, 2375 02:21:26.239 --> 02:21:33.440 congratulations on being married. Who's married? Who got married? Oh 2376 02:21:33.479 --> 02:21:37.360 you mean us? Thank you, Gerald Norris, one hundred dollars. 2377 02:21:37.440 --> 02:21:41.120 Look at that, he said, keep going. Well, you throw 2378 02:21:41.159 --> 02:21:43.479 me one hundred dollars, dude, I'll keep going. I will 2379 02:21:43.479 --> 02:21:47.479 never stop. But hey, it's nice to know that, you know, 2380 02:21:47.600 --> 02:21:49.559 you could put in this much time and effort to 2381 02:21:50.280 --> 02:21:53.600 Sopranos because what this took us, well a few couple 2382 02:21:53.559 --> 02:21:55.520 of months. Yeah, I mean there was a couple of 2383 02:21:55.559 --> 02:22:00.680 months of watching and researching and paying attention. So so 2384 02:22:00.879 --> 02:22:05.879 really appreciate that, Drol Norris, that's a really generous super 2385 02:22:05.959 --> 02:22:08.959 chat and I really thank you for that. Evan Schultz. 2386 02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:11.760 Ten dollars, he's lost it where to go? 2387 02:22:16.280 --> 02:22:18.639 If you touch this it just flies past all of 2388 02:22:18.719 --> 02:22:24.000 the super chats. Thank you as always, The Sopranos was 2389 02:22:24.000 --> 02:22:27.159 a great TV show and your analysis is insightful. Always 2390 02:22:27.239 --> 02:22:29.719 nice to have Jamie on. Congratulations in many years to 2391 02:22:29.719 --> 02:22:31.120 you both. Well, thank you Evan Schultz. 2392 02:22:31.120 --> 02:22:35.559 He's a longtime supporter, longtime super chatter, He's been there 2393 02:22:35.680 --> 02:22:39.040 for what a few years now, So much appreciated, Evan. 2394 02:22:39.120 --> 02:22:42.200 We know you're an og when it comes to supporting 2395 02:22:42.280 --> 02:22:44.399 Jay's nel, so so thank you for those kind words. 2396 02:22:44.920 --> 02:22:47.280 And I'm glad you liked this stream Anthony for ten dollars. 2397 02:22:47.319 --> 02:22:50.680 It's funny. My friend watched this series recently and it 2398 02:22:50.719 --> 02:22:55.040 coincided with him going through phases a belief in Reincarnation 2399 02:22:55.319 --> 02:23:01.680 told you his other beliefs like Buddhism, nihilism, seeing himself 2400 02:23:01.719 --> 02:23:03.799 as a general. Oh that was the other thing. Remember 2401 02:23:03.840 --> 02:23:10.559 the painting Polly has that stupid painting with the horse saved. 2402 02:23:10.600 --> 02:23:12.639 He saves it out of the dumpster, and then he 2403 02:23:12.680 --> 02:23:17.879 has Tony painted as a civil as American revolutionary general. 2404 02:23:18.920 --> 02:23:23.079 Once again, Reincarnation Tony is a general. Would you say 2405 02:23:23.079 --> 02:23:26.200 that he was programmed? That is I think a potential reading. 2406 02:23:26.200 --> 02:23:29.280 That's what I'm trying to say with I mean, we 2407 02:23:29.399 --> 02:23:37.079 don't ever get the clear reference that Tony was at 2408 02:23:37.120 --> 02:23:43.280 some point programmed unless this was all done intentionally. And 2409 02:23:43.440 --> 02:23:47.399 maybe you could say, well, Tony's mom is a psychopath, 2410 02:23:47.760 --> 02:23:51.399 his dad was a psychopath. So if they had a 2411 02:23:51.440 --> 02:23:54.079 connection to the FEDS or to the CIA or something 2412 02:23:54.120 --> 02:23:57.959 like that, maybe, and maybe that's why the FBI agent 2413 02:23:58.000 --> 02:24:03.639 at the end says your family, your people, Right, you 2414 02:24:03.760 --> 02:24:07.559 guys worked with the CIA to hide Lucky Luciano. Right. 2415 02:24:07.920 --> 02:24:12.559 Maybe that's the significance to that reference and to the 2416 02:24:12.680 --> 02:24:15.280 MK ultra monarch symbolism that is in the show and 2417 02:24:15.319 --> 02:24:18.799 the Wizard of Odds stuff and the drugging. So is 2418 02:24:19.040 --> 02:24:22.520 the psychiatrist a handler I don't think so, but it 2419 02:24:22.600 --> 02:24:27.159 is interesting to, you know, speculate on is Tony a 2420 02:24:27.159 --> 02:24:32.879 a programmed kind of Assassin's It's something you could speculate, 2421 02:24:33.360 --> 02:24:36.319 but I'd have to go back and rewatch the show 2422 02:24:36.520 --> 02:24:39.680 from that angle to see if you could really substantiate that. 2423 02:24:39.719 --> 02:24:43.840 But it's an interesting theory. So that's what I think 2424 02:24:43.840 --> 02:24:49.719 about him being programmed. Maybe Dharma poozle seven dollars small beer. 2425 02:24:49.799 --> 02:24:53.200 I know, dude, but Ay has broke. Well, you don't 2426 02:24:53.239 --> 02:24:55.120 have to if you're broke, dude, don't worry about some 2427 02:24:55.120 --> 02:24:57.239 of you super jazz but much appreciated. You want to 2428 02:24:57.280 --> 02:24:59.360 read some supergens, We're. 2429 02:24:59.159 --> 02:25:06.399 Here, Mike, Mike Sherman twenty dollars. Paul went to Norway 2430 02:25:06.600 --> 02:25:11.040 for a two season Mafia sitcom. Hilarious. 2431 02:25:11.719 --> 02:25:13.040 Maybe he means Paulie. 2432 02:25:12.920 --> 02:25:15.479 Paul's went to Norway for a two season. 2433 02:25:15.239 --> 02:25:18.520 Mafia He probably means Paula. That would be funny to watch. 2434 02:25:19.000 --> 02:25:25.959 Yeah, Varsity athlete three dollars. Quasi moto predicted all of this. 2435 02:25:26.200 --> 02:25:29.120 The elites are the sacred and we are the profane. 2436 02:25:31.959 --> 02:25:36.000 Yeah, I mean that's really the the basis of all 2437 02:25:36.000 --> 02:25:38.360 the symbology from the elite perspective? 2438 02:25:39.239 --> 02:25:42.200 Is that a quasi motive conversation they had? 2439 02:25:42.760 --> 02:25:42.920 Oh? 2440 02:25:43.000 --> 02:25:46.000 Do they remember? It was like they were making fun. 2441 02:25:45.840 --> 02:25:48.680 Of notre yes. And it was right after the nine 2442 02:25:48.719 --> 02:25:54.719 event and Tony was talking to Bobby and Tony makes. 2443 02:25:54.520 --> 02:26:01.280 That oh yeah, you know it's that you know, damas yes, 2444 02:26:01.360 --> 02:26:02.479 And Bobby. 2445 02:26:02.200 --> 02:26:05.079 Thinks quasi moto is no stra damas yeah, and Tony 2446 02:26:05.120 --> 02:26:06.639 makes fun of him for being really domb. 2447 02:26:06.680 --> 02:26:13.520 It's funny, s bad hastonian ten dollars, great conversation, great impersonations. 2448 02:26:13.559 --> 02:26:21.760 Forget about it, Tony, forget about it, Crystal, that's Adriana. 2449 02:26:22.479 --> 02:26:29.120 Uh Carmela, Oh yeah, she can't forget about it? Huh 2450 02:26:29.319 --> 02:26:31.239 ye that what you're gonna do? You're gonna forget about it? 2451 02:26:31.680 --> 02:26:32.600 Forget about it? 2452 02:26:33.000 --> 02:26:35.159 What are you gonna do? I like that one? What 2453 02:26:35.600 --> 02:26:36.360 are you gonna do? 2454 02:26:36.600 --> 02:26:37.559 Forget about it? 2455 02:26:38.319 --> 02:26:38.920 On my life? 2456 02:26:39.040 --> 02:26:47.280 Te okay KEI going? Don John, Don John ten dollars, 2457 02:26:47.319 --> 02:26:48.079 excellent show. 2458 02:26:48.360 --> 02:26:51.280 Thank you, Don John, You're an excellent that's an excellent. 2459 02:26:50.959 --> 02:26:56.479 Name, Don John Daniel ya Ania fifty dollars. Oh, thank you, 2460 02:26:57.040 --> 02:26:59.239 great stream. We have to check the show out. 2461 02:27:00.120 --> 02:27:03.639 Yes, well, I'm sorry for spoiling it. Although that's how 2462 02:27:03.639 --> 02:27:05.799 it goes. If you watch this holes maybe you cut 2463 02:27:05.840 --> 02:27:07.559 it off and didn't watch the ending, so you don't 2464 02:27:07.600 --> 02:27:10.479 know what happens. But I think you will agree with 2465 02:27:10.520 --> 02:27:13.760 mine nelysis if you see the end of the show. Okay, Sean, 2466 02:27:14.399 --> 02:27:16.399 But by the way, Daniel, thank you for that fifty 2467 02:27:16.399 --> 02:27:18.920 dollars much appreciated. Shout out Daniel and Nia. 2468 02:27:19.319 --> 02:27:22.799 Sean and Finnegan five dollars. Can you explain revelation of 2469 02:27:22.840 --> 02:27:25.159 the method and generally why Hollywood does it. 2470 02:27:26.799 --> 02:27:30.280 Well? On an esoteric level, it's done I think to 2471 02:27:30.879 --> 02:27:33.360 just prepare people for what's coming, or to kind of 2472 02:27:33.399 --> 02:27:38.000 cast a spell that you see something before it happens 2473 02:27:38.040 --> 02:27:40.159 in fiction, and so it kind of casts a spell 2474 02:27:40.200 --> 02:27:44.000 over you. It might make you. You might be conditioned 2475 02:27:44.000 --> 02:27:46.360 to it, right, So from a kind of a psychological 2476 02:27:46.360 --> 02:27:49.799 warfare perspective, it's like gaslighting, so you're conditioned to it. 2477 02:27:50.280 --> 02:27:53.879 So basically, I think that's the reason for why this 2478 02:27:53.959 --> 02:27:56.879 kind of stuff would pop up. It's not always intentional. 2479 02:27:56.920 --> 02:28:00.920 Sometimes the arts just have that quality to them where 2480 02:28:00.959 --> 02:28:04.120 they can in a way predict the future. So there 2481 02:28:04.120 --> 02:28:07.200 could be a higher level kind of divine providence that 2482 02:28:07.879 --> 02:28:11.120 is the basis for the arts predicting the future. Sometimes 2483 02:28:11.120 --> 02:28:15.920 it's human agency that's intentionally conditioning people to accept messages. 2484 02:28:16.440 --> 02:28:20.799 Governments have done that forever, you know, embedding messages into fiction. 2485 02:28:21.360 --> 02:28:23.719 I cover that in my books. So you know, you 2486 02:28:23.760 --> 02:28:29.159 can have different motivations and actors, so to speak, within history. 2487 02:28:29.520 --> 02:28:32.159 So it's not always one thing, right, there can be different. 2488 02:28:32.200 --> 02:28:36.159 So but from the psyops perspective, revelation of the method 2489 02:28:36.239 --> 02:28:41.280 of functions to condition, and then from the esoteric perspective, 2490 02:28:41.399 --> 02:28:43.639 you could argue that it's a kind of a maybe 2491 02:28:43.639 --> 02:28:47.959 a casting of a spell where you're, you know, gaslighting 2492 02:28:47.959 --> 02:28:52.920 your audience before you do what you're going to do. 2493 02:28:53.680 --> 02:28:56.280 All right, Well, there you go, two and a half hours. 2494 02:28:56.280 --> 02:29:01.479 I think we covered any other closing remarks on. 2495 02:29:00.200 --> 02:29:02.479 Us Super Sopranos stream. 2496 02:29:02.600 --> 02:29:04.760 All right, everybody, thank you. If you enjoy this, please 2497 02:29:04.920 --> 02:29:08.680 like it and share it, subscribe, and if you do 2498 02:29:08.799 --> 02:29:12.280 have a chance, definitely watch The Sopranos and tell me 2499 02:29:12.319 --> 02:29:14.360 if you think I'm right or if I got something wrong. 2500 02:29:14.799 --> 02:29:17.520 Leave me comments below below the show if you're watching 2501 02:29:17.520 --> 02:29:19.760 this after the live show, and let me know if 2502 02:29:19.760 --> 02:29:22.520 you think I got something wrong. Everybody, have a good 2503 02:29:22.600 --> 02:29:24.600 night and we'll talk to you soon. Next up, by 2504 02:29:24.600 --> 02:29:26.680 the way, is we will do our top ten X 2505 02:29:26.719 --> 02:29:29.440 Files episodes. We've been we've been for a long time 2506 02:29:29.479 --> 02:29:32.399 wanting to do a really good X Files breakdown. So 2507 02:29:32.440 --> 02:29:35.639 we're gonna pick like the top ten. It's gonna be difficult. 2508 02:29:35.799 --> 02:29:38.040 It might not be ten, might be twelve, fifteen, but 2509 02:29:38.079 --> 02:29:40.280 we're gonna pick the best ones we think. I've seen 2510 02:29:40.559 --> 02:29:43.719 X Files many times through. It's a great show, the 2511 02:29:43.799 --> 02:29:48.319 classic for you know, conspiracy TV shows, And that will 2512 02:29:48.319 --> 02:29:49.040 be next up for