WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What's going to happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:27.280 What a help? Good evening everybody, And welcome back to 4 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:32.520 the Occult Rejects another episode of Rustic Gods. I think 5 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:37.719 this is episode nine eight or nine nine. I'm looking 6 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:41.960 okay and uh yeah, welcome back. I am one of 7 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:46.920 your three hosts, Jules, host of the Great Pill podcast 8 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:51.119 with me tonight, are my friends the Headless Giant and 9 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:54.560 Nick of the Occult Rejects. What's going on, gentlemen? How 10 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:55.000 are we doing? 11 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.359 How are you doing? This is a good time for 12 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:01.280 another rust of God. This is number nine, so we 13 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:03.920 had to go big. I think the spirit of Mount 14 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.120 Etna is one of those big ones, especially for all 15 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:11.239 of Greece and the Mediterranean, because this thing is volatile. 16 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:15.400 It's still going off and so there's still rumblings of 17 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:17.439 the spirits within it. So I think it's a good 18 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:20.760 time to talk about it. It's weird how few headlines 19 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:23.560 the eruptions that mounted and I gets. They're so close to, 20 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:27.040 you know, society that if it actually goes a little 21 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:29.959 bit bigger than they expect it to the rest of 22 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:32.599 the island and several other places from around the area 23 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:36.200 are wiped out. So you know you think it's a volcano, 24 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:40.280 right right, it's a volcano and an agent symbol of 25 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:41.480 spirituality too. 26 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:43.719 Yeah. 27 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:48.319 Man, well, I'm excited to hear you talk about it. 28 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:51.159 Learn a lot from you on this show. Guys, be 29 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:53.200 sure to like the stream, share it. Let's get some 30 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:56.359 more people in here. It's a late night show. We 31 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:58.400 haven't done one of these in a couple of weeks, 32 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.239 and I got off work and was feeling a second win. 33 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:05.439 So well, we had planned it earlier, so I had 34 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:08.639 no choice but to fill a second win, but it 35 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:12.759 was a good night to do it, so I wanted to, 36 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:15.080 you know, make an announcement before we start. Got some 37 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:20.560 new designs in stickers. Got the Dale Cooper Great Pill podcasts. 38 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.919 Take a Great Pill. Dale says it's good thumbs up. 39 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:29.919 And we had the Gods of the Morning Wood. Yeah, 40 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:32.840 I got those, and then everyone knows of the the 41 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:35.639 other ones that we got and these are all well 42 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.400 you see this when you see the cowboy hat, the 43 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.840 new al Heem anomology, the bold they're not new, but 44 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:46.080 great quality, and the QR codes. We also got print 45 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.000 some m cole reject stickers and some more. We got 46 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:51.240 a lot of designs and working on a lot for 47 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:53.919 Gods of the Morning, wood Nick and Headless or a 48 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.400 part of that show as well. Well, I am inviting 49 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:00.560 you guys to be if you'd like to Bebviously all 50 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.000 have been doing it with us, with me, Ratt and 51 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:07.360 Subliminal for the past like a couple of months, so 52 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:12.360 you're basically in. I'm forcing you in. So there's a 53 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.120 lot of cool things coming, guys, a lot of cool 54 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:17.080 designs coming for Gray Pilled. Just wanted to make that quick, 55 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:20.639 quick announcement and uh yeah, we have esoteric book review 56 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.400 Saturday morning. I think we're doing epic of yoga mesh 57 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:29.360 and uh this to Sophia part three. Just kidding. I'm excited, 58 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:32.960 but uh not as excited as Rat. He's he's edging 59 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:34.120 himself all week. 60 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:34.520 For this shit. 61 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:41.680 Yeah he's fascinating, Yes he is. We love you Rat anyway, 62 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.039 All right, guys, well let's go ahead and get so 63 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.639 uh eight No is that how you say it? 64 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:49.280 Is that the insurance? 65 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:53.599 Well, it is like ating to the insurance. In fact, 66 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:55.439 that's one of the reasons why they called it to 67 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:56.520 the insurance. 68 00:03:56.319 --> 00:04:00.520 So it's just spelled differently. He is silent, okay, because 69 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.840 I know in some pronunciations, like in English, like old English, 70 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:07.840 you pronounce like a you know, like eight, was it 71 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:10.479 like eighth the wolf or whatever, because but it's like 72 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:15.879 e you would pronounce this etna just the goddess Etna. 73 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:22.519 Right, the goddess Atna of the mountain, Etna of the 74 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:28.680 laboratory of Hyphestus, Etna of the odd top of Typhoon Etna. 75 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:29.560 Right. 76 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:33.399 So this is like where things go to die and 77 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:37.120 be reborn. So I think it's a really important spot, 78 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:41.920 especially when you consider how impactful this mountain was on 79 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:44.839 the rest of the region. So we're talking about the 80 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:49.519 Hyphestus cult a little bit first. Uh, Now, in Rome 81 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:54.560 they call them vulcan right now, how much of an 82 00:04:54.560 --> 00:05:00.000 impact has the word vulcan had in our society? Vulcanized tires, right, 83 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:01.000 I want to see. 84 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:06.160 It on every sewer. You see the word Vulcan. The 85 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:08.959 company I guess that owns it, right, on every not 86 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:12.720 not the man will maybe the manholes, but the other ones, 87 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:14.560 you know, the uh, the gutters. 88 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:19.560 It's all metal working and the metal working of the city, 89 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:21.360 which is even more could. 90 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:28.600 Only shit dude. Years ago, I was like parking my 91 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:30.920 truck and I got out and I was like vulcan 92 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.040 and I stopped for like maybe ten minutes in like 93 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:38.399 some schizo state, just like Roman date, you know, like uh, 94 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:40.959 you know, and didn't really figure it out, but that 95 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:45.199 maye wow full circle anyway. 96 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:50.879 Now, there were very few public shrines. Again, like a 97 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:52.519 lot of these other gods, they didn't have a lot 98 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.000 of public shrines, but a lot of worship going out 99 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.759 into nature, probably going out to the mountain would be 100 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:03.240 a pilgrimage to Hyphestus, right. And it's funny because there's 101 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:07.319 a lot of links between Hyphestus and Yahweh from the Bible, 102 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:11.680 both volcano gods. They're both described as being as fiery 103 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:15.959 as the volcano, and a lot of the other knowledge 104 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.120 that hi Festus passed on. Also, you find the same 105 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.680 kind of stories with Yahweh passing on that intelligence on 106 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:26.199 to his people. But there is one that is very, 107 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:30.000 very shocking and breathtaking, and that's been Athens. The temple 108 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:33.680 for Hyhestus and Athens is relatively untouched or it's been 109 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:36.800 fully restored, one or the other. But it's a gorgeous temple. 110 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:41.079 It's one of the only ones He possessed relatively few 111 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.600 shrines and temples in ancient Egypt, but was probably widely 112 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:49.079 honored with torch race festivals. Torch races are one of 113 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.720 the most awesome things that we've lost and we're never 114 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:55.920 going back, mostly because of insurance companies like ETNA. A 115 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:58.399 torch race is where you would be going through the 116 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:03.079 woods on horror back with nothing but a torch for 117 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:08.000 your light. They would do these to Hecata as well. 118 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:11.079 They would do torch races to Hecatay. But the idea 119 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:15.079 is that the God will help you in the night 120 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:18.439 as you were riding between those branches that want to 121 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.680 take your head off at full speed and you've only 122 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:23.199 got a torch to hold out in front of you. 123 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.680 So it's a tense sacrifice if you're going to be 124 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:27.519 at a torch race. 125 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:32.959 Absolutely it sounds exciting a torch race. As somebody pointed out, 126 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:35.079 the hat too. I want to get in there, but. 127 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:41.480 Oh yeah, the whole big time, right. But uh, the 128 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:45.959 idea is he's one of the idean Dactyls. Mount Ida 129 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.319 is another mountain that is holy to the Greeks, and 130 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.279 the idea in Dactyls, it's the idea that the gods 131 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:54.319 are working through you. 132 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:55.079 Right. 133 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.800 So one of the symbols of the idea in Dactyls 134 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:04.839 was the the anvil, the hammer, because Hyphestus is one 135 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.680 of the idea and Dactyls and the idea is as 136 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:11.560 you're working, the god is coming out in you. And 137 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:16.519 this is really seen through his daughter Techne. Techne is 138 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:19.680 his daughter. This is where we get the term technology from. 139 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:27.319 That's the daughters for the torch race, right, Yeah, there's 140 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:31.600 a lot of tord symbolism starting with Prometheus. Hecate is 141 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.879 also a torch bearer, and if you think about the 142 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:37.039 fire inside of the mountain, it makes sense why there 143 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.919 would be a torch associated with the race for Hyphestus. 144 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:48.559 So in classical sculpture, Hyphestus was depicted as a bearded 145 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:53.679 man wearing a craftsman's cap. Now that craftsman's cap looks 146 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:59.440 very suspiciously Phrygian, only without the little wrinkle, right, far 147 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:08.120 more kind of so attained Attainus or Etna's eight Nos, 148 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:14.480 an epithet given to several gods and mythical beings. Yeahs 149 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.559 at Naos, Yeah, that would be good. At Naos? Yeah, 150 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.879 is uh given to several gods and mythical beings connected 151 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.240 with Mount Etna, such as Zeus, of whom there was 152 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:30.000 a statue on Mount Etna. Right, Zeus is the one 153 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:32.559 who picked up Mounttna before it was a mountain, who 154 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:37.360 was a giant boulder, and he smashed Typhon with it. Right, 155 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:43.080 So Hiphestus, his his roommate inside of Mount Etna, is 156 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:44.440 the infamous Typhaont. 157 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:59.639 So I have a great photo of that. Actually cool. 158 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:05.279 So that's Hephestos, that's under there, hes Festus. 159 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:07.759 Well, it's it's Typhon. 160 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:10.159 It's Typhon, right, yeah, okay, right. 161 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.320 So I think Typhon is like the heat for the 162 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:17.159 forges under Mount Etna. So like as he's been crushed, 163 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:19.600 like he gets angry and then blows his top every 164 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:20.080 now and then. 165 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:23.080 But this is just like Hermie's crushing him with his 166 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:27.919 foot man. Yeah, So would you relate Typhon to Vulcan 167 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.840 and and you know this this deity. 168 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:36.080 In some ways I think you can because of the 169 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:42.639 fact that they are transformational deities. Right. So Typhon is 170 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:45.039 like coming to bring an end to the whole world, 171 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.000 bring an end to the gods. Right he fails. He 172 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:53.240 transitions into this other form, which would be this volcano god. Right, 173 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:57.039 so he goes from being giant monster to transforming into 174 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:01.000 volcano god. And then you've got hyphen which is all 175 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.720 about the ford, which is transforming metal. So it's all 176 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:10.000 about transformations through heat, through light, you know, all the 177 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:16.720 rest of the classic divine symbols. Right, So let's see 178 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:25.559 here the festival was celebrated there called Atina or Hyphestus, 179 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:28.879 who had his workshop in the mountain and temple near it. 180 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:36.240 All these references and the cyclops, So there's a cyclops 181 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:43.080 here too, interesting and fhia gs and fhi eugs lame 182 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:47.120 or limping on both feet. A surname of Hyphestus given 183 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:51.879 him because Zeus threw him from Olympus upon the earth 184 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:55.919 for having wish to support hera. So there was a 185 00:11:55.960 --> 00:12:00.840 betrayal herehi Festus got thrown out of heaven. Right, You're 186 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:04.919 starting to see the parallels between him and this Typhon character. 187 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:08.559 And then he's walking around laying for the rest of 188 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:12.799 his life, which is interesting because Hyphaestus is said to 189 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:17.159 be the one who gave us the first king of Athens. 190 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:22.480 He was chasing around Athena wanting to get her pregnant 191 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:24.759 and wanting to have sex with her, and she got 192 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:27.679 out of the way, and he released himself onto her 193 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:31.080 leg and it hit the ground, and out of it 194 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.879 came eric Thonius, which is the snake legged first King 195 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:42.120 of Athens. If you've never heard of that one, that 196 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:45.919 one's a real weird story. But I love his name, 197 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:53.080 eric Thonius. I'm gonna pull up some pictures, Okay, looking 198 00:12:53.120 --> 00:13:05.679 at this. Yeah, this is one of those they don't 199 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.480 get around to talking about in all the children's books. 200 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.960 So Ericthonius was sort of a bastard who was born 201 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:17.960 with the snakes for legs, right. The goddesses thought it 202 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.200 was so cool that he had these snakes for legs 203 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.240 that they kept him well when he grew up. He 204 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.759 was a very wise person, right wise as a serpent. 205 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:30.519 And then Ericthonius, you know, became King of Athens based 206 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:36.320 upon his wisdom. But apparently he was just a sperm 207 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:40.600 that hit bounced off Athena, and then hit the ground 208 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:44.279 to create again. Kind of like the idea of the 209 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:46.960 snake in the Garden of Eden lost his legs because 210 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.080 of some incident. Right, in this case, it would be. 211 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:57.440 You know this, this Ericthonius, the serpent born hero of 212 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:00.399 ancient Athens. 213 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:05.879 Uh yeah, so in on that dude. 214 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:12.399 Name and etymology. The name Ericthonius derives from the Ancient 215 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:19.960 Greek words airy, meaning wooly on meaning earth, the wooly Earth, 216 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:22.840 which could be interpreted as wooly Earth or rich earth. 217 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.840 This name reflects his unique birth from the earth, a 218 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:30.080 characteristic that sets him apart from other heroes of the time. 219 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:34.799 The Roman counterpart of Ericthonius retains the name the same name, 220 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:39.159 showcasing the rare consistency in the transference of Greek myth 221 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:47.279 to Roman war kind of like Hercules. And it's funny 222 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:52.639 because in in Jason and the Argonauts, Heracles was ordered 223 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:56.159 to go help Jason by his mother, Hera, the same 224 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:58.159 one that tried to kill him over and over again. 225 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.879 We're not getting the full context on that Heracles myth, 226 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.600 I think because his name after his mother. 227 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:12.720 Oh he is, right, I should have that's that's that's 228 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:16.320 that should have been obvious for me. But right, thank 229 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.960 you for pointing that out. 230 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:22.799 Dude. These websites are getting bug ear and bug ear. 231 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:25.240 We keep saying, oh, things are gonna get better, but 232 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:26.240 they only get worse. 233 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:29.440 Dude, I've been talking about it, guys. It's a si right, 234 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:33.759 it's one of the biggest syops. Actually, it's with all technology, 235 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.200 especially our phones. Uh. They they you know, they they 236 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.279 keep telling you, hey, you know, this technology is getting better, 237 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:46.200 we keep it keeps developing. Wrong, they are giving us 238 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.279 the same ship we had ten years ago and just 239 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:51.720 putting it in a shiny fucking phone case. Right Like, 240 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:55.919 that's I'm convinced now because my phone is dog shit 241 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:59.639 and the service is all like it just nothing works 242 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:03.279 as it should, right Like, we're presented with, you know, 243 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:09.000 this idea that it's all supposed to be uh smooth, 244 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.200 you know, smooth, smooth and steady by now. But that's 245 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.480 that's not the case. And so I'm convinced it to 246 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:16.879 Sigo like most things. 247 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:22.600 But much like that other well known law bringer to 248 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.080 his people, Eric Thonius, was found in a basket in 249 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:26.519 the river. 250 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:32.759 Go figure, who does that sound like I'll do, Moses. 251 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:38.960 Yeah, there's lots and lots and lots of virtual heroes found. Well, 252 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:42.759 you got to go back to ancient Babylon too, right. 253 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:46.320 The the guy a sargan of a cat, he was 254 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:48.480 found in a basket down by the river. So they 255 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:53.399 kept that same motif from ancient Babylon all the way 256 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:57.559 up through Moses Mussais as he was called in Greek, 257 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:03.200 which is just a total bastardization of another character who 258 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.680 is an Athens lawbringer. But again, you've got all of 259 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:10.160 these themes right there, present in Greek mythology that were 260 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:14.880 picked up and used because this is all about religious symbolism. 261 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:19.640 The religious symbolism has an esoteric element to it, and 262 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:23.440 if you're not up on what it is, how could 263 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:26.559 you know if it's real or if it's a symbol. 264 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:31.440 You'll miss it? Yeah, yeah, and some things, you know, 265 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:36.240 some some things could have truth in both aspects, but. 266 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:39.759 In fact, there could be a lot more personal truth 267 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:44.160 in the symbol than universal truth. And if that's the case, 268 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:47.079 it needs to be it needs to be shared. That 269 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.160 needs to be the part that shared. Is this a 270 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.119 universal truth or is it a personal truth that maybe 271 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:56.720 you can tell people about, you know, right, right, it's 272 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:59.559 a completely different way of looking at how you're supposed 273 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:02.960 to relate to the divine. It's it's not well, this 274 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:05.000 is this is exactly what he wants you, guys, to 275 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:07.680 do every year at this time. Again, you know, it's 276 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:13.319 very much about understanding the symbols. So let's see Herodotus 277 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:17.640 in histories eight point nine to eight number two translating 278 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:23.119 gootlely or godly Greek historian, fifth century BC. The first 279 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:27.039 rider delivers his cargo, the second to the third, and 280 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:32.079 thence it passes from one hand to hand, even as 281 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:35.680 in the Greek torch bearers race in honor of Hyphestus. 282 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:39.640 So he didn't say where they were racing in honor 283 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:42.960 of Hyphestus, but there was a torch race. And it's 284 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:45.960 funny if you know they're not using a baton, they're 285 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:50.480 using torches. And it's the same kind of relay cult. 286 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:55.400 In Attica, Southern Greece, Plato and Critias says, in the 287 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:59.599 days of old, the gods had the whole earth distributed 288 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:04.000 am them by allotment. Now, different gods had their allotments 289 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:09.200 in different places, which they set in order. Hiphestos and Athena. 290 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:12.640 Different gods had their allotments in different places, and they 291 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.920 said an order. Why am I saying it again? Who 292 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:19.400 were brother and sister and sprang from the same father, 293 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:23.119 having a common nature and being united also in the 294 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:27.799 love of philosophy and art. Both obtained as their common 295 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:33.319 portion this land Athens, which was naturally adapted for wisdom 296 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:38.079 and virtue, and they implanted brave children of the soil 297 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:43.039 eric Thnius, what does that sound like? Which was put 298 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:46.680 into their minds in order of the order of government. 299 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:50.519 Their names and preserve are preserved, but their actions are 300 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:54.480 disappeared by reason of the destruction of those who received 301 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:58.960 the tradition and the lapse of ages. So they're saying, 302 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:05.240 originally Athena and Hyphesus came together to create these wooly 303 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:11.640 children of the earth that were equipped with virtue and wisdom. Right, 304 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:16.359 there's a lot of linguistic adaptations that they're pulling out 305 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:20.160 of the symbol of Ericthonius, which is what they do 306 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:23.319 all the time when it comes to these myths. The 307 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:28.000 myths formed the language, the language forms the myths Passidius 308 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:33.799 Description of Greece one four point six translation jokes Greek 309 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:38.759 travelog second century AD. Above the Karamikos in Athens and 310 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:42.680 the portico called the King's Portico is a temple of Hyphestus. 311 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:47.200 I was not surprised by that it stands a statue 312 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:50.920 of Athena because I knew the story of Ericthonius, the 313 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:54.799 first king of Athens, a son of Hyphestus, and Athena 314 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:59.480 birth by Gaya the earth, like these characters are coming 315 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:02.960 straight out of the earth itself. And that's again the 316 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.000 theme that comes along with Typhoon, because he has said 317 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:07.680 to me birth of Gaya as well. 318 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:11.240 He's born creeps along. Yeah, he creeps along the ground 319 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:18.640 with your legs. And I think another myth from the 320 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:26.359 river was an a Romulus and Remus. Uh well, or 321 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:27.559 in a basket by a river. 322 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:30.920 I have to look that up. I think there's there's lots. 323 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:33.759 Of because I was speaking, Uh there's I think there 324 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:39.960 may be a few. I don't know. But one thing 325 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:43.359 that I did see when looking into this uh and 326 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.680 this may be one of the children that you you 327 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:52.200 were just talking about, I guess of Athena and hes Festus. 328 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:59.799 But there's a giant right of of this mountain, m 329 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:05.920 that's kind of assigned to this mountain. Uh and uh 330 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:14.720 in Kaladis in Coladas in Greek mythology, in Coladis was 331 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:20.559 or in Kelados. Maybe it was one of the giants 332 00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:24.839 the offspring of Gaya and Uranus. He was the traditional 333 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:30.599 opponent of Athena during the uh. 334 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:39.000 Gigantomy or giganto Maki, that's the against the giants. 335 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:42.400 We got to talk about that one day, dude. Yeah, 336 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.359 the war between the giants and gods and was said 337 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:47.920 to be buried under mount Edna in Sicily. Okay, I've 338 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:51.960 heard this theory before. But it's not a giant. It's 339 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:55.440 one of the four Fallen Angels. It's probably a coast 340 00:22:55.480 --> 00:23:01.119 to coast episode. You know. It was very under mounted uh, 341 00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:05.839 and one was very like you know, or maybe in 342 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.039 the Four Horsemen. I don't know, they were maybe equating 343 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:09.839 the four Horsemen to fallen Angels. 344 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:11.799 I'm sure I listened to that ship when I was 345 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:13.319 in prison. I used to be able to get that 346 00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:14.079 ship on the radio. 347 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:20.000 I bet you love that there, dude, something to listen to. Uh. 348 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:21.759 But yeah, I didn't know if you heard of this 349 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:23.440 guy ahead, let's hear. I can bring up a picture 350 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:24.319 of him if you want me to. 351 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:26.680 I'm sharing something about it. 352 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:33.519 It's the picture of the can't actually the thumbnails or 353 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:38.319 fire that that You've been doing, Nick for this show, 354 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:41.000 So I appreciate that. Man. I try my best with 355 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:43.880 mine and you know, maybe I should try just try 356 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:47.519 a little harder with the gray piled thumbnails and maybe 357 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:50.759 Nick can help me show me what AI he uses 358 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:51.519 or something. Yeah. 359 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:52.720 No, I gotta see if I can edd you on 360 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:54.440 to my thing. I gotta look into it. 361 00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:56.799 I spent some time to him, Yeah, because then you 362 00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:00.480 could make thumbnails on there all you want. Yeah, that's 363 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:02.240 it's fun as hell. Sometimes I just think of weird 364 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:03.319 ship if you can make it. 365 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:05.799 I used to do that at first, man, and then 366 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:07.599 I kind of got like, I was like, I don't 367 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:08.480 have time, you know. 368 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:12.319 So, oh dude, I've gotten stoned and realized I spent 369 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:14.240 like an hour to make an image that I never used. 370 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:15.920 I'm like, yo, I just lost that he out of 371 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:17.359 my life for that fucking. 372 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:18.960 Reason, Like I could have edited. 373 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:22.960 I dude, I I created an image. I don't know 374 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:24.359 what show it was for. I got I was. It 375 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:27.200 was real tedious, and I spent like thirty minutes doing 376 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:30.400 it and then I mess something up on it. It 377 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:32.559 was awful. It was because I was stone I'm sure, 378 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:38.039 but oh, there he is. So now this same guy 379 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:40.200 I'm I'm I'm talking about. 380 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:44.680 Or it's probably just a generic cyclops, but it's funny 381 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:46.359 he's got those three eyes. I think that would make 382 00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:51.400 a great T shirt. This weird oh with his freaking 383 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:52.720 skins on, wearing his. 384 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:57.839 Come at you bro or some shit like that, Like 385 00:24:57.880 --> 00:24:58.640 do you even lift? 386 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:04.400 Right? He's jacked? 387 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:07.640 Yeah, dude, And look all the people are like, please 388 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:09.640 don't know us, here's some more food. It's like, ow 389 00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.400 is not a bad thing. Obviously, they don't want to 390 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:17.839 be smashed by a cyclops. But you know, hey, ice 391 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:18.799 age megaphone. 392 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:24.279 So were any of these cyclops like kind and uh helpful? 393 00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:29.160 Well, see, the thing is they have completely other personality 394 00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:31.759 types than what we're used to. So they were mean, 395 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:38.400 but they couldn't lie. Right, So they're mean and they're cruel, 396 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:40.519 but they'll tell you exactly what they're going to do 397 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:42.480 to you, and they're not going to lie about there's 398 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:45.279 no reason for them to lie. It's a strange thing 399 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:49.599 about the cyclops is they're most vulnerable to humans lying 400 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:54.599 to them. Now does that sound like some sort of 401 00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:55.880