Speaker 1: Ladies, gentlemen, theyse and them's. It is day four of
Speaker 1: the third annual Halloween Week here at Wicked and Grim.
Speaker 1: So far you have been graced with the story of
Speaker 1: the paranormal with a strange and unexpected haunted object. You
Speaker 1: have been mesmerized with the tale of a prolific UFO
Speaker 1: sighting that seems to almost confirm the age old question
Speaker 1: of are we alone in this universe? And last episode,
Speaker 1: to top things off, there was the true crime tale
Speaker 1: of the Lady in the Lake.
Speaker 2: What a way to begin.
Speaker 1: The Halloween season. If only there was something that could
Speaker 1: be done to make things even better. How about a game? Yes,
Speaker 1: let's play a game. Today your host will present you
Speaker 1: with three urban legends, tales from history around the world,
Speaker 1: and it is your job to figure out which ones
Speaker 1: are based on truth and which ones are simply just
Speaker 1: a story. As it is the third annual Halloween Week,
Speaker 1: so it is the third annual episode of three Urban Legends.
Speaker 1: And now to deliver this episode, I give you you're
Speaker 1: ever wonderful hosts of Wiki and Grim, Ben and Nicole.
Speaker 3: This is my favorite Halloween Week episode. Three Urban Legends
Speaker 3: definitely calls for a bevy.
Speaker 2: It certainly does. Cheers, cheers.
Speaker 3: I love fun One. I think it's a fan favorite,
Speaker 3: to be honest.
Speaker 2: It is. Everyone's always hyped about the urban legends. But
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest right now, I don't know how
Speaker 2: many more years I can keep up the urban legends.
Speaker 3: Oh you were saying that that's so sad.
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep going as long as I possibly can. However,
Speaker 2: researching urban legends is not easy because they're they're exactly
Speaker 2: that urban legends, So ninety five to ninety nine percent
Speaker 2: of them are like, oh, there's a story that's hundreds
Speaker 2: of years old of a ghost, or there's stories hundreds
Speaker 2: of years old of a haunted place, or stories that's
Speaker 2: thousands of years old of creature. You're out in the
Speaker 2: bush and there's no evidence on anything. So it's like
Speaker 2: trying to find stories that sound plausible and are not
Speaker 2: real and stories that are actually real with evidence is
Speaker 2: not a very easy feat.
Speaker 3: But I believe in you. I think you can do it.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should just do like, is Santa Claus real?
Speaker 2: And that'll be one technically, yes, that would be real,
Speaker 2: because I mean Saint Nick, right, Santa Claus is real?
Speaker 2: You heard it? Here first. So that's four Urban Legends
Speaker 2: we're covering today because that's our fourth There.
Speaker 3: You go, Okay, I am pumped.
Speaker 2: You're pumped.
Speaker 3: I don't have a notebook. I need to take notes.
Speaker 2: It might not be a bad idea, really really, oh shit,
Speaker 2: I was kind of kidding. No, it's always good to
Speaker 2: take notes in the Urban Legends. And if you guys
Speaker 2: haven't listened to the Urban Legends episode before, it is
Speaker 2: much different than any episode we ever do any other
Speaker 2: time of the year. There's a lot more bantering back
Speaker 2: and forth because we are trying well, I know the answers.
Speaker 2: Nicole's going to be trying to work it out. I'm
Speaker 2: going to try and like help guide her a little
Speaker 2: bit without giving anything away. So this is not so
Speaker 2: much a whole lot of storytelling. I mean a little bit,
Speaker 2: because I have three stories to tell, but not a
Speaker 2: whole lot of like super dive diving deep into stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just seeing if we can get Nicole and you
Speaker 2: guys to figure it out.
Speaker 3: Last year, I nailed it. I'm pretty sure, did you.
Speaker 3: I meant to look back, but I'm pretty dang sure
Speaker 3: I did. I don't think I don't think I did.
Speaker 3: The previous year though.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I am switching it up just a little
Speaker 2: bit from previous years. I think the first year it
Speaker 2: was like two truths and a false, and then it
Speaker 2: was like too false and a truth. This time, I'm
Speaker 2: not telling you how many true or how many false.
Speaker 2: You have to guess which ones are true and which
Speaker 2: ones are false.
Speaker 3: That's bullshit.
Speaker 2: I will tell you there are both true and false
Speaker 2: urban legends within this.
Speaker 3: Okay, so they're all like all false or.
Speaker 2: Like there's at least one of each that is blooney.
Speaker 3: I am not impressed with that new uh.
Speaker 2: You got you got to twisted a little bit, although
Speaker 2: to be fair, I did fail to be fair. I
Speaker 2: did contemplate the idea of not saying anything like that,
Speaker 2: just being like, oh, yeah, like you have to figure
Speaker 2: out what's what, and then yeah, just being like all
Speaker 2: of them are false and none.
Speaker 3: Of there's I could see doing something like that for me.
Speaker 2: I thought of it, but i'd be too mean to
Speaker 2: mean next year, right, maybe maybe next year, because like
Speaker 2: I said, it's really difficult to find urban legend cases
Speaker 2: with any weight behind them whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Hmm, yeah, okay, so just you're just making it a
Speaker 3: bit more difficult, so for me as well. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's difficult for you so much to make it difficult
Speaker 3: for everyone else.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be a game.
Speaker 3: You heard jack ob it's fun. No, Jacko did awesome there?
Speaker 2: Okay, well are you ready to dive into it? Yes?
Speaker 2: I was taking off Okay, sorry, and then I was coughing.
Speaker 3: We got our shit together over here big time?
Speaker 2: Oh clearly. I actually I kind of do because I
Speaker 2: have a bowl candy next to me.
Speaker 3: Can't be eating while you're doing this, Ben, But.
Speaker 2: There's Reese's Pieces. There's a bowl of Halloween candy.
Speaker 3: Also pick up New Halloween County because that Halloween County
Speaker 3: kind of sucks.
Speaker 2: It kind of is because we ate all the good stuff.
Speaker 3: You ate all the good stuff.
Speaker 2: We okay, I am part of we.
Speaker 3: You're not eating Halloween candy on the podcast Let's go here?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I am most definitely eating Halloween candy.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Oh now, rip please, you're like I have one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we're going to get into this. So the
Speaker 2: very first urban legend that we have is I don't
Speaker 2: want to say the title of it because it's going
Speaker 2: to give away like the story of it. So I'll
Speaker 2: tell the title at the end of the story.
Speaker 3: Sounds good.
Speaker 2: Okay. So the first urban legend in this one, we
Speaker 2: head to a Wendy's restaurant somewhere in the United States
Speaker 2: of America.
Speaker 3: Oh, I like Wendy's in the early two thousands, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So a woman and her husband decide, you know what, they're
Speaker 2: gonna go grab bite to eat. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was for dinner, for lunch, whatever, but they go
Speaker 2: and decide that they're gonna sit down order something, and
Speaker 2: the woman decides that she's gonna get a nice hot
Speaker 2: bowl of chili, which, love me a good bowl of chili,
Speaker 2: So amen to that.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had the Wendy's chili?
Speaker 2: Though I have not at Wendy's, I can't say, Hey,
Speaker 2: I haven't. I don't think i'd ever eat like a
Speaker 2: fast food Chili's. Probably no, I don't think I have,
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I'm a bit of a chili snob.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: There's good chili and there's bad chili, and I want
Speaker 2: to stick with good chili.
Speaker 3: I definitely have because I used to work at Timmy's,
Speaker 3: so i'd have chili.
Speaker 2: Tuo che lunch. For any non Canadians, Timmys is Tim Horton's.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can tell where we live. Anyways, So
Speaker 2: they're sitting here at the restaurant. They're eating their meal.
Speaker 2: The woman's eating a bowl of chili, and as she's eating,
Speaker 2: she takes a big bite full and she bites down
Speaker 2: onto something art and chewy. Oh gosh, okay, so she
Speaker 2: spit it out to get a look at which she
Speaker 2: had just attempted to eat, and to her utter shock,
Speaker 2: she just spat out a severed human finger from the chili.
Speaker 2: Holy shit. The finger was partially cooked and clearly been
Speaker 2: sitting in the chili pot for a while. Oh wow,
Speaker 2: I scooped out and served to her.
Speaker 3: That is really, really, really disgusting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the Wendy's finger in chili is
Speaker 2: the first one, that's the first legend.
Speaker 3: Can I just say a side note, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: this has legitly happened. But at McDonald's they had like
Speaker 3: those those like turnover things or whatever.
Speaker 2: Those like apple turnovers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and wasn't there a mouse baked into one of
Speaker 3: those one time?
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe pretty.
Speaker 3: Sure that happened unless that was just one of my nightmares.
Speaker 3: Who knows, it could have been that too.
Speaker 2: There was I almost did this one, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should not talk about it because it could
Speaker 2: happen next year. Now I'll talk about it now, fuck.
Speaker 3: It, No, you need to save it.
Speaker 2: No, it's all good.
Speaker 3: So I saw all your fault. Next year, if you
Speaker 3: can't do it, then well.
Speaker 2: What if I just forget and I do it anyways? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna talk about it. Maybe it'll happen next year.
Speaker 2: I won't say it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have my I think I know what I'm
Speaker 3: going to say for this one. But okay, we'll save them.
Speaker 3: Tell the end.
Speaker 2: You're going to save to the end. Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So the next urban legend we got is this one
Speaker 2: I can I can tell you because it's not like
Speaker 2: a super giveaway by any means. It talks about it
Speaker 2: right away. This is a legend of the Green Children
Speaker 2: of Woolpits. Okay. So this one actually dates back to
Speaker 2: the twelfth century England in the village of Woolpit in Suffolk.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So, according to this story, one day the villagers of
Speaker 2: Woolpit were out and about and someone discovered two children
Speaker 2: on the edge of the nearby forest. The children, a
Speaker 2: brother and sister, had a strong green tinge to their skin,
Speaker 2: and they or very strange, kind of foreign looking clothing.
Speaker 2: They spoke a language that was completely unfamiliar to the villagers,
Speaker 2: and the children refused to heat anything except for raw broadbeans.
Speaker 2: Oh okay. The children appeared to be quite disoriented and frightened,
Speaker 2: and over time they adapted to the new surroundings, being
Speaker 2: able to eat regular food, and the strong green tinge
Speaker 2: to their skin gradually faded. However, the boy unfortunately fell
Speaker 2: ill and died shortly after the discovery, so it was
Speaker 2: more of the girl that had survived going on. Eventually, though,
Speaker 2: the girl did learn to speak English, and she explained
Speaker 2: that they come from They came from a place called
Speaker 2: Saint Martin's Land, where she exclaimed the sun never shone
Speaker 2: and everything was green there, and according to her account,
Speaker 2: they were hurting their father's cattle when they suddenly heard
Speaker 2: a loud noise and found themselves in the area of Woolpit.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and sorry, I mnd have even miss this.
Speaker 3: I am paying attention here, but did you say how
Speaker 3: far the distance between these were.
Speaker 2: Or not yet between what?
Speaker 3: Sorry, between where they ended up and where they should be.
Speaker 2: They don't know where Saint Martin's Land is. Oh, okay,
Speaker 2: that's where the kids claim they were from. From Saint
Speaker 2: Martin's Okay, they don't know what that is. So the
Speaker 2: girl ended up, like I said, the green kind of
Speaker 2: faded from her skin. She kind of learned English and
Speaker 2: kind of integrated into the the town. Yeah, she was baptized.
Speaker 2: She was eventually named Agnes, and she would marry a
Speaker 2: man from kings Lynn, nearby town, and lived a relative,
Speaker 2: relatively normal life after that.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Interesting, So that is the urban legend of the Green
Speaker 2: Children of Woolpit.
Speaker 3: And what was the title of the Wendy's one?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just just finger in Chili. I
Speaker 2: can't kind of name these.
Speaker 3: I guess, Okay, Okay, the titles.
Speaker 2: Aren't a specific title, like you look it up, you'll
Speaker 2: find several different titles, right, you know that's fair, okay,
Speaker 2: kind of just my own titles.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I definitely have a thought for that one too, Okay.
Speaker 2: And you're not going to tell us our thoughts, your
Speaker 2: thoughts till the end here.
Speaker 3: No, we could no, because I want to hear all
Speaker 3: of them and then like give my final opinion, because
Speaker 3: what happens if I also think this one is the
Speaker 3: same as what I think the other ones and I'm
Speaker 3: fucked and I got to change one of them. Does
Speaker 3: that make sense?
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay? Well this last one again, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to give the title because it kind of gives away
Speaker 2: the story itself. But in this urban legend, it's one
Speaker 2: of a man who worked in a downtown high rise building.
Speaker 2: He had a very good sense of humor about him,
Speaker 2: and he liked to prank some of the new people
Speaker 2: in the office building. And what he would do would
Speaker 2: be he pranked them by running at top speed and
Speaker 2: throwing his body at the glass of one of the
Speaker 2: top floors in the building.
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: So he's inside the building right, so like a tall
Speaker 2: with the glass and looking outside. Run he would run
Speaker 2: and just jump at the glass and.
Speaker 3: Like botty check that is that is something?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sorry. Little did the spectators know watching him
Speaker 2: run at the glass and jump into it like that
Speaker 2: that The building was fitted with like a really strong
Speaker 2: glass and the man did this on a regular basis
Speaker 2: as a gag to new people in the building, knowing that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, the glass is really strong, He's not going
Speaker 2: to go anywhere. He's fine, right, So what he would
Speaker 2: do is he'd run at the glass, hit it hard,
Speaker 2: bounce off, and was completely fine, while the onlookers in
Speaker 2: the office had clearly a shock of a lifetime.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Well, one day the man was performing the stunt when
Speaker 2: he ran at the glasses always and hit it. However,
Speaker 2: today he didn't bounce off, the glass shattered, instead sending
Speaker 2: him falling twenty four stories to the payment in the
Speaker 2: streets below, killing him.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I mean, honestly, that's not surprising to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, and that is your third urban legend.
Speaker 3: Because I mean that super sucks and there could be
Speaker 3: like a lawsuit for that. But like, also, what the
Speaker 3: fuck was he doing with his life choices?
Speaker 2: Holy shit?
Speaker 3: I mean, like I'm really sorry, but like that, like,
Speaker 3: don't do that. That's that's I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, some people out there who listen, I've talked about
Speaker 2: this in the show before are where I had a
Speaker 2: career in occupational health and safety. You don't do that shit.
Speaker 2: That is dangerous. That is blatant disregard for your own
Speaker 2: But yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Could almost be charged like with what's the word? Like
Speaker 3: it's kind of you, neigen, because like who the fuck
Speaker 3: does that? Okay, I I think this is gonna be
Speaker 3: easy for me. I have like easy. I'm almost overly confident,
Speaker 3: so I'm probably gonna get my ass handed to me.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I have thoughts.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's start with the first one, the finger
Speaker 2: in the chili one. What are you thinking on that?
Speaker 2: Break it down for us?
Speaker 3: I think that one is false. I think it's false,
Speaker 3: A big false.
Speaker 2: A big false. Why do you think it's a big I.
Speaker 3: Like Wendy's And I feel like I would have heard
Speaker 3: about that happening before, Okay, I mean and yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I think there also would have been more information
Speaker 3: too if it was true, because that's kind of a
Speaker 3: big deal, and I think we would just know more
Speaker 3: shit about it.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm tracking here which one you say false
Speaker 2: and true? Force I'm typing just.
Speaker 3: I was like, what are you writing down?
Speaker 2: Just so this way when you go back and like
Speaker 2: I said that was true or fault, I've got it
Speaker 2: written on what you said you can't back out of
Speaker 2: the shit.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm going to go with false for that one.
Speaker 2: For show, Nicole says false on the finger in the
Speaker 2: Chili one.
Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly really hope that's false because that
Speaker 3: would be so disturbing if it was true. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't think I would actually ever eat at Wendy's again,
Speaker 3: which is so shitty.
Speaker 2: Reasonable, that's a reasonable response.
Speaker 3: I like Wendy's.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, what do you think about the children of
Speaker 2: Woolpit the green children.
Speaker 3: Of rob I'm also thinking that one is false false, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I mean it kind of makes sense that their
Speaker 3: skin could turn a different color from just like what
Speaker 3: they were eating, or if they were not getting some
Speaker 3: sort of nutrients right that they need it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: But I haven't ever heard of green, but that could
Speaker 3: just be me. Also, I thought it was interesting that
Speaker 3: this place never saw the sun, but everything was green there.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, maybe that's just me being fucked.
Speaker 3: Things can be green without the sun. Probably.
Speaker 2: No. I like your train of thought here. You're you're
Speaker 2: really working on it. You're actually trying to think of
Speaker 2: it in a realistic sense, which is kind of what
Speaker 2: you generally have to do with urban legends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that one. And then also I just I
Speaker 3: don't know. It just seems really far fetched to me
Speaker 3: because how far did they wander off? And I don't know,
Speaker 3: so I'm saying I'm saying false.
Speaker 2: Okay. And the final one, the man who broke through
Speaker 2: the glass of the building and fell to his death.
Speaker 3: True, you say true, I have to say true for
Speaker 3: one of them.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, because you said false.
Speaker 3: And that one seems the most believable to me.
Speaker 2: It seems the most believable.
Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, because I don't have very much faith in
Speaker 3: humanity and so like I can just actually see that
Speaker 3: potentially happening and yeah, okay, well, and I'm sorry to
Speaker 3: say if it did happen like that, super socks and
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry that person died, but also like, don't
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. Okay, So which one do you want
Speaker 2: to hear about first? Which one should we go over?
Speaker 3: Let's just do it in order order, or you pick,
Speaker 3: you pick just in case you.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, we'll go in order. That's fine. So we're
Speaker 2: starting up with the finger in the chili.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So Nicole says, this one is false. And I'll give you, guys,
Speaker 2: just a moment to lock in your answer and what
Speaker 2: you think. Okay, I'll give you like a three two
Speaker 2: one counter lock it in, ready, three two one, Okay,
Speaker 2: your final thoughts on it. The finger in the chili
Speaker 2: is true? Oh shit, it's a true story.
Speaker 3: Seriously.
Speaker 2: Is a twist to it though. So. In two thousand
Speaker 2: and five, a woman by the name of Anna I
Speaker 2: think it's Ayala and Ayala, She made headlines after claiming
Speaker 2: to have found a partially cooked segment of human finger
Speaker 2: within the Santo's a restaurant.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it probably actually wasn't a dead person. It
Speaker 3: was someone that chopped it off maybe in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, it was a significant finger. Oh it's not
Speaker 2: a little tiny piece. It was like a digit, at
Speaker 2: least a knuckle. I'm sure it was a large piece
Speaker 2: of a finger, like someone's decapitated finger to capitated removed finger.
Speaker 2: So the incident dealt a heavy blow to the fast
Speaker 2: food chain, resulting from an sestimated of twenty one million
Speaker 2: dollars in business loss. And that's US dollars. So in
Speaker 2: response million or billion? Sorry million?
Speaker 3: Holy shit? Okay.
Speaker 2: In a response to this, Joseph Desmond, the local Wendy's
Speaker 2: franchise holder, how the press conference in San Jose and
Speaker 2: April April twenty second of two thousand and five, urging
Speaker 2: customers to return, emphasizing the quality of their food and
Speaker 2: offering as a goodwill gesture free Frosty treats for the
Speaker 2: Bay Area customers that weekend.
Speaker 3: Frosty is like ninety nine cents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm still They actually extended that to a
Speaker 2: nationwide offer. I guess anyone could just go to a
Speaker 2: Wendy's in the States at this time and just get
Speaker 2: a free Frosty. I guess. Okay, So the investigation over
Speaker 2: this revealed that the finger belonged to an individual named
Speaker 2: Brian Paul Rustier, a coworker of Anna's husband. So what
Speaker 2: had happened was this man, Brian, had lost his finger
Speaker 2: in a workplace accident on December of two thousand and
Speaker 2: four and sold it to Anna's husband, apparently to settle
Speaker 2: a debt, and the information was actually disclosed to the
Speaker 2: police through an anonymous call on the Wendy's hotline, and
Speaker 2: later traced the finger back to Brian himself. So basically,
Speaker 2: she put the finger in the chili herself to try
Speaker 2: and get a lawsuit out of Wendy's. You're fucking me dead, serious, serious,
Speaker 2: dead fucking serious.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, that's bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, on September ninth, two thousand and five, in
Speaker 2: San Jose, both Anna and her husband Jamie pleaded guilty
Speaker 2: to conspiring to file a false claim and attempting grand theft.
Speaker 2: She faced felony charges of attempted grand larceny due to
Speaker 2: the substantial financial losses suffered by Wendy's.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, does she don't have to pay that back
Speaker 3: to them? That's brutal.
Speaker 2: She did not.
Speaker 3: She would not have that money though, Nope.
Speaker 2: So she ended up pleading guilty on September of two
Speaker 2: thousand and five and was sentenced to nine years in prison.
Speaker 2: On January eighteenth of two thousand and six, she was
Speaker 2: released after serving four years due to good behavior, but
Speaker 2: with strict conditions. She was banned for life from all
Speaker 2: Wendy's locations.
Speaker 3: How would they even know?
Speaker 2: I know? Right?
Speaker 3: So she would drive throughs and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. In contrast, her husband, who had supplied the finger,
Speaker 2: received a sentence of twelve years and four months in prison.
Speaker 2: Oh longer, I'm not too sure if he was released
Speaker 2: sooner or not yet though. So after being released, Anna
Speaker 2: kind of broke her silence in a news interview with
Speaker 2: CBS five, and she publicly apologized to the fast food
Speaker 2: chain for making the whole shocking relevation of a revelation.
Speaker 2: There we go have a finger in her chili. She
Speaker 2: actually even admitted to cooking it a bit her self,
Speaker 2: to making it seem like it was in the chili
Speaker 2: for longer than it was. Yeah wow, yeah. So she
Speaker 2: had confessed that she had actually prepared the ring finger
Speaker 2: at her Las Vegas home and then transported it to
Speaker 2: San Jose where she dropped it in the chili's at Wendy's.
Speaker 2: And in that interview she also stated, quote, I learned
Speaker 2: my lesson and I just want to move on with life.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: So the finger in the fast food chain Wendy's chili
Speaker 2: is very much so true. Not due to Wendy's itself,
Speaker 2: It was planted by a customer.
Speaker 3: I'm like, shook. This one has me absolutely mortified, Like
Speaker 3: I am actually, yeah, that is that's unreal, unreal. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't I didn't even think that.
Speaker 2: You look like you look just shocked. You see a.
Speaker 3: Ghost pretty well, because I wouldn't have even thought that
Speaker 3: they would have placed that in than the chili themselves.
Speaker 3: That's that's shocking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I'm gonna give you one.
Speaker 3: I feel like now I'm just fucked and the whole
Speaker 3: thing I'm all wrong now.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna give you one chance to change answers
Speaker 2: if you'd like. So you said false to the Green
Speaker 2: Children of Woolpit, and you said true to breaking through
Speaker 2: the glass to fall to his death.
Speaker 3: I know I almost want to change that to false
Speaker 3: the man one, but then I could be literally zero,
Speaker 3: and then I'd be so angry. So I'll be less angry.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna lock them in.
Speaker 2: You're locking it in. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, Well, the
Speaker 2: Green Children of Wolpit. Let's move on to that one.
Speaker 2: So this is I'll give you guys a countdown so
Speaker 2: you can lock in your answer too, ready, three two one,
Speaker 2: The Green Children of Wolpit is false.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: So the story of Green Children of Wolpit has been
Speaker 2: passed down through generation and has basically become a famous
Speaker 2: folklore tale. While it is considered a legend, historians and
Speaker 2: scholars have debated its origins, and possible explanations. Some theory
Speaker 2: suggests that the children might have been Flemish immigrants, refugees,
Speaker 2: or lost survivors of nearby famine, either speculate supernatural or
Speaker 2: extraterrestrial origins. Although these stories lack any credible evidence, the
Speaker 2: true origins of the Green Children a Woolpit remain a
Speaker 2: serious mystery because there is no foundation of truth regarding
Speaker 2: the tale at all. There is no evidence, no nothing.
Speaker 2: It's simply just a tale passed down. It is a folklore.
Speaker 2: It is an urban legend.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay. I at least got one, so I'm
Speaker 3: feeling good. You're feeling good, feeling good?
Speaker 2: One for two yeah, so far, so that is like
Speaker 2: fifty percent, which is really not so you're either gonna
Speaker 2: get thirty three percent or sixty six percent. What did
Speaker 2: I say that one was true?
Speaker 3: If that one is also true and the Wendy's one
Speaker 3: was true, we have a serious.
Speaker 2: Problem questioning humanity.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I will be able to not like I
Speaker 3: will just that will just put me one step closer
Speaker 3: living in the woods. All but well, I guess you
Speaker 3: can come to the two of us, thank you, in
Speaker 3: the woods, away from everybody.
Speaker 2: With our black cat too, wolf dogs and chickens.
Speaker 3: Chickens.
Speaker 2: I do kind of just want to talk a little
Speaker 2: bit on the green children of wolf.
Speaker 3: That's my new thing. A gonna have honey.
Speaker 2: Apparently Nicole wants to have bees. We already have honey,
Speaker 2: she's laying over there. But I did want to talk
Speaker 2: about these green children a wolfpit a little bit. I
Speaker 2: don't have any other information on it, because I mean
Speaker 2: there's there isn't any, but I want to kind of
Speaker 2: just theorize a little moment on how their skin could
Speaker 2: be potentially green. Okay, So I kind of had an
Speaker 2: idea certain people have certain shades to their skin, even
Speaker 2: amongst you know, white colored whoever. Right, there's different shades
Speaker 2: within each.
Speaker 3: Race, like pigments, yes.
Speaker 2: Exactly, So there's different pigmentations within each and like I
Speaker 2: know me, like on Caucasian, but I do have kind
Speaker 2: of an olive tinge to my skin, okay, pink, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So it is kind of like a family trait of
Speaker 2: mine on my mom's side that kind of olive a
Speaker 2: little bit of color to my skin. If you look,
Speaker 2: you can kind of see it in there, Okay. And
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is a possibility that these maybe Flemish immigrants,
Speaker 2: you know, got lost, maybe immigrating or something like that,
Speaker 2: had weird, weird clothes their kids. They don't really know
Speaker 2: where they came from or anything like that, right, and
Speaker 2: they just kind of have a little bit of a
Speaker 2: different color to their skin. And of course, back in
Speaker 2: those days, every little thing was blown out of proportion.
Speaker 2: Oh no, she didn't go to church, she's a witch,
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean. Yeah, so it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: these kids have a little bit of green to their skin,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what are they?
Speaker 3: Because they also didn't speak the same language too, So
Speaker 3: then that exactly adding to the miscommunication of everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there is no documentation saying that this is true.
Speaker 2: I think if it is true, it is blown out
Speaker 2: of proportion crazily. And these kids probably weren't even green.
Speaker 2: Who knows, Maybe they just like face planet in the
Speaker 2: grass and had a bit grass thing on their forehead
Speaker 2: or something like, you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, they're a bit dirty or something from Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so green children to Woolpit, I'm as far
Speaker 2: as history knows, is false. But there's a very good
Speaker 2: chance that just some children speaking a different language and
Speaker 2: slightly different colored skin showed up somewhere. That started it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they weren't used to what they were eating,
Speaker 3: so that's why they only wanted to eat one thing.
Speaker 2: And so the story of the Green Children, though completely false,
Speaker 2: but maybe rooted in some facts somewhere we just don't know. Okay,
Speaker 2: now onto the man breaking the glass in the high
Speaker 2: rise building. Nicoles says, it is true. And I'm going
Speaker 2: to give you guys a little bit of a countdown
Speaker 2: here too, so you can go ahead and lock in
Speaker 2: your answer. You ready, I'm gonna eat a piece of candy. Weill,
Speaker 2: I'm doing this?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Three? Wait?
Speaker 3: What why? During the podcast which Halloween week and Halloween candy?
Speaker 2: All good? Ready?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 2: Three? Two one, lock in your answer, Nicole says, true,
Speaker 2: and the man breaking through the glass and the high
Speaker 2: rise building falling to his death is true. Oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: Nicole was watching my lips, so I lipped like an.
Speaker 3: F before I get Yeah.
Speaker 2: She was like on the edge of her seat. This
Speaker 2: story is very much so a true story.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So. A man by the name of Gary Hoy was
Speaker 2: a Canadian lawyer and became widely known after a very
Speaker 2: tragic incident unfolded in eighteen ninety three. At the time,
Speaker 2: he was an experienced attorney working at the law firm
Speaker 2: of Holden Day Wilson in Toronto. On July ninth of
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, during a gathering of summer students at
Speaker 2: the firm, Gary attempted to showcase the strength of the
Speaker 2: glass in the windows in the Toronto Dominion Center. And
Speaker 2: that's where the firm was located. Right, They're in this
Speaker 2: high rise building and it's on the twenty fourth floor.
Speaker 2: So this stunt he had performed before, nothing new. He's
Speaker 2: done this before to get a rise out of people,
Speaker 2: get a laugh, get a reaction, throw himself against the window,
Speaker 2: and demonstrate its durability. During this particular event, he ran
Speaker 2: towards the window on the twenty fourth floor of the
Speaker 2: Toronto Dominion Center and hurled himself against the glass. However,
Speaker 2: to have one's shock, the glass gave way and he
Speaker 2: plummeted twenty four floors to the concrete below to his death.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that is so brutal, It.
Speaker 2: Very much so. Is so. This story, of course, is
Speaker 2: a cautionary tale. Like we can learn a lot from this.
Speaker 3: Like how hard is he running clearly significantly intensely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean this glass it's not made to
Speaker 2: do this. No, you don't push limits, and that's that's
Speaker 2: what happened. Like this is really underscoring the importance of
Speaker 2: workplace safety and responsible conduct in all honesty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just want to say really side really
Speaker 3: quickly here though, Like it's it's kind of too bad
Speaker 3: because he was kind of seems like he's a jokester
Speaker 3: and he just wanted like people to be happy and
Speaker 3: lack have fun. Yeah, have fun at work or whatever.
Speaker 3: And then oh and then that happens brutal.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I really feel bad for Gary because, like you say,
Speaker 2: he's just trying to have fun, but unfortunately he had
Speaker 2: faith in the wrong place in glass that is not
Speaker 2: meant to support being shoulder checked over and over again.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, like it wasn't the smartest. Did you have
Speaker 3: a family and stuff?
Speaker 2: I'm not too sure. Okay, No, No, I didn't, like
Speaker 2: I said, didn't do deep dives like into these. I
Speaker 2: just found out the quick facts on true or false
Speaker 2: sort of situation. But I did find that this actually
Speaker 2: prompted an increased awareness regarding structural integrity of glass windows
Speaker 2: and high rise buildings, which sparked like a whole discussion
Speaker 2: on safety protocols and office and public spaces and so
Speaker 2: on and so forth, which is good they do. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's terrible to say that within safety, all these rules
Speaker 2: and regulations are written in blood, because it takes someone
Speaker 2: getting hurt or killed to come up with a new
Speaker 2: way to keep us safe.
Speaker 3: I know. But could you imagine that you're going through
Speaker 3: your new employee, you're going through a tour, and they're
Speaker 3: just like, oh, yeah, one of the rules is don't
Speaker 3: like run up to the window and.
Speaker 2: Like body check it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you just you be so confused by them. Yep,
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you did get two or a three? Correct?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 2: You got sixty six percent? Good job?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel pretty good about that.
Speaker 2: I'm curious on how you guys did out there. We're
Speaker 2: going to put up a post on our Instagram and Facebook.
Speaker 2: We want to hear what you guys said, what you thought,
Speaker 2: if you got any wrong, if you've got them all right,
Speaker 2: let us know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you've heard of them, because some
Speaker 3: people have heard of these things, oh definitely right.
Speaker 2: Well, one of those is actually a true crime case.
Speaker 2: The finger in the CHILIESE it's you know, or in
Speaker 2: the chili not the CHILIESE chili, Wendy's chili.
Speaker 3: That one, to me is just disgusting. Yeah, that's not
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess if you get desperate enough, people
Speaker 3: come up with interesting ideas.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's very much so true.
Speaker 3: How much did they have to buy that finger for?
Speaker 3: Oh you said it was like he was owed a
Speaker 3: favor or something.
Speaker 2: Gosh, yeah, he bought it for some sort of debt
Speaker 2: or something. That's all I could really find.
Speaker 3: So that's even bizarre.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one kind of got me. How he his
Speaker 2: buddy finger chopped off at a work accident or something
Speaker 2: like that, in industrial accident, and then he's like, oh guess
Speaker 2: i'll buy it off you to settle a debt. What like,
Speaker 2: how the fuck does that come about?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember you owe me you have to buy my
Speaker 2: severed finger. Oh shit, you're right, here's fifty bucks. A
Speaker 2: year later, I'm going to put in Wendy's chili, Like
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Like how I would it even look?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like it'd almost been well, not necessarily,
Speaker 3: because who knows how long that chili would have been
Speaker 3: like sitting somewhere potentially and ugh, okay, we got to
Speaker 3: stop talking about that.
Speaker 2: Well, if it makes you feel any better, they did
Speaker 2: do analysts on the finger as well, and they did
Speaker 2: determine that it was not cooked with the chili because
Speaker 2: it wasn't cooked at the right temperatures and stuff. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that helps you settle your stomach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we already know that.
Speaker 2: Oh I know, but I'm just saying there was an
Speaker 2: extra step of actually analyzing the finger.
Speaker 3: They really took it seriously.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're like, oh, yeah, this finger was cooked
Speaker 2: differently than the chili because it would have been cooked
Speaker 2: with much more because of this temperature and boiling and
Speaker 2: like simmering.
Speaker 3: Are you doing that on purpose right now?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, because I actually feel unwell about this for.
Speaker 2: Until you're grabbing onto your mic stand.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but it's just getting to me.
Speaker 3: It's getting to.
Speaker 2: Me a little good. That's what Halloween week is all about. Okay, Okay, Well, cheers.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you guys enjoyed those ones. Hopefully next year I
Speaker 2: can find three more urban legends to keep this going.
Speaker 2: I'm not making any promises, but I well, I'll make
Speaker 2: one promise. I promise I'll do my best. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's all I can promise. Yeah, but you guys, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for being here. Hopefully enjoyed the third
Speaker 2: annual Urban Legends the three Urban Legends sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you got them all right. It's a fun one,
Speaker 2: it is. If you want to check out some more
Speaker 2: stuff from us, we got our Instagram, we got our Facebook,
Speaker 2: all that good stuff to blow in the description. You
Speaker 2: can also check out our podcast Fearful. That is Jacko's
Speaker 2: podcast came up with new episodes just the other day,
Speaker 2: So go ahead and check that out too. Give us
Speaker 2: a rating, and we'll see you. We got more episodes
Speaker 2: coming out for Halloween week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We will, And until then, stay wicked.