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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>We will start the four o'clock hour with some breaking

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<v Speaker 2>NFL news, as the Bears have hired Ben Johnson, the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions, who had a phenomenal

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<v Speaker 2>season and until you until you ran into Jade Daniels

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<v Speaker 2>and the Commanders, and obviously, I mean all credit to

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<v Speaker 2>all credit to Washington. I mean, they've been a really

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<v Speaker 2>fun story. And I don't I don't think it's really

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<v Speaker 2>a debate from from my time watching the NFL, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's many of you that have watched it

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<v Speaker 2>a lot longer than I have. Jayde Daniels is the

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<v Speaker 2>best rookie quarterback I've ever seen. He's had the best

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<v Speaker 2>rookie quarterback season I've ever seen, not only with his

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<v Speaker 2>team having a run like this, but he has been

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<v Speaker 2>fun nominal. So it's been kind of wild to see

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of feel, you know, I find myself reminding myself,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is something you know, we probably won't

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<v Speaker 2>see again. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but it's been

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<v Speaker 2>that special. So with all that said, you know, He's

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of talent. Jared Goff good quarterback, but

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe Ben Johnson is way better than people realize.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was able to work with golf more so

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<v Speaker 2>than I mean, because golf in LA. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like he was even considered like like the

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<v Speaker 2>level below. Like he played in the Super Bowl with

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<v Speaker 2>the Rams, did he wasn't the first Rams super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>appearance with him when they lost to the to the Patriots. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, he wasn't terrible, but when he got

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<v Speaker 2>traded to Detroit, like I think everybody just assumed that

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<v Speaker 2>he would he would just kind of, you know, fade

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<v Speaker 2>out and they wouldn't be good. And they became really

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<v Speaker 2>good and he was a pack a factor in that.

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<v Speaker 2>So credit to him. You know, he clearly has been

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<v Speaker 2>good at times. But maybe, you know, well, Saturday was

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<v Speaker 2>it was a night where I'm thinking, Okay, maybe Jared

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<v Speaker 2>Goff just really benefited from landing in Detroit when he did,

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<v Speaker 2>with and Ben Johnson being there too. But as a

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<v Speaker 2>Vikings fan, I mean, does this make you fear the

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<v Speaker 2>Bears at all? Because I mean the Bears, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're such a big brand, but man like they've been

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute joke for a good stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Yeah, no, not really, because I know Ben Johnson's

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<v Speaker 3>a good play caller, but I don't believe head coach anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>So everybody was like, ah, Ben Johnson, he's he's coaching

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<v Speaker 3>circles around Kevin O'Connell and he does these trick plays,

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<v Speaker 3>and well, guess what. He leaves the trick plays in

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<v Speaker 3>the hands of his number two wide receiver the other night,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what ended up being there ultimate undoing. So

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<v Speaker 3>I would settle down about the about him just ready

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<v Speaker 3>to be a head coach. But on the converse side,

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<v Speaker 3>if you start to think about it, logically, he should

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<v Speaker 3>be good at developing Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>He can. He can't be any worse than what they've had.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason I mean, that's kind of not You.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't go get a defensive guy like uber Flus when

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<v Speaker 3>you're restructuring your whole team. They basically said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>have everything, were starting from the ground up, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>more or less what they did, and they got a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of things right with the draft picks, but they

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<v Speaker 3>just didn't have the head coaching and play So I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's gonna be a little bit better. And I

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<v Speaker 3>always said that the Bears might be a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous with some better coaching, and they sure can. They

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<v Speaker 3>obviously had talent. But I'm not ready to just crown

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Johnson as this head coach guy, because you also

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<v Speaker 3>got to go in and set the culture too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, going to be everything else also than a

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<v Speaker 3>head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>These things really there's very little guys who kind of

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<v Speaker 2>work their way up and fall in to this Josh

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<v Speaker 2>as they fall into it. But I mean, he clearly

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<v Speaker 2>has been buzzing a little bit in the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years. But you know, there have been many other

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<v Speaker 2>coaches that have taken a similar path as far as

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<v Speaker 2>just doing the coordinator thing for a while, having success,

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<v Speaker 2>and then finally being a guy that teams want to

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<v Speaker 2>make the head coach. And some guys have taken that

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<v Speaker 2>and turned out to be phenomenal coaches, and then others,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they typically fall on their face and never

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<v Speaker 2>get another opportunity. Like you know, I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the the guy that I would say would maybe

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<v Speaker 2>be that that would be the argument against what I

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<v Speaker 2>just said, is I feel like Matt Lafloor, like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>some would say he's been really good, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I really believe that, Like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's been a good coach. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's he hasn't done anything yet to turn into

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<v Speaker 2>one of those great guys like a Sean McVay, who

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<v Speaker 2>you know, was a was an offensive savant, got an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity here with the Rams, and he's been He's been

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<v Speaker 2>great for the most part. He got it. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl, So you know, I guess maybe Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Lafloor gets there the other you know at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do feel like there's other guys that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like some that's why they retread so much, because those

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<v Speaker 2>are the two candidates. Actually, let me back up the

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<v Speaker 2>three types of coaches that you hire now in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>and and I feel like the majority of the hires

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<v Speaker 2>that have been made in the last I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>five six years, maybe longer have been one of these

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<v Speaker 2>three things. Usually it's just an upcoming coordinator like this,

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<v Speaker 2>or a retread, a guy that has had you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stints at two different places but it wasn't great, but

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you feel like he'd be a better fit for you, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the coach that was with the Jets and then

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Dolphins. Bruh uh gosh, what was his name?

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe he went from the Dolphins to the Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember which one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>Adam Gate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Adam Gaate. Like he he was not good the

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<v Speaker 2>first stop he was at and somehow he got up.

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<v Speaker 2>He got a second job.

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<v Speaker 3>He just happened to be the offensive coordinator the rubbed

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<v Speaker 3>elbows with Peyton Manning when they won a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why it was the hot Yeah, So like

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<v Speaker 2>you've got you've got that, that route and then that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean by retread, Like somebody like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>if Pete Carroll got hired, nobody'd be shocked because the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL has done that where they'll like, hey, this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>he's clearly good enough to utilize what we have. Like

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<v Speaker 2>coaches in the NFL are so important, but they're also

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<v Speaker 2>pretty expendable because you have so much more tied up

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<v Speaker 2>in your players to where you're not necessarily always just

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<v Speaker 2>factoring in does this guy just the absolute best football coach?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of components that go with it. So

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<v Speaker 2>the retreads are pretty common. I think you usually see

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<v Speaker 2>that whenever there's a little more desperation from from from

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<v Speaker 2>a franchise. And then you also have the less common

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<v Speaker 2>but becoming more common, a dude who just recently played

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<v Speaker 2>that you feel like might be able to lead the

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<v Speaker 2>locker room in a great way, like the Peers, who

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<v Speaker 2>was one season with the Raiders. Yep, and then he's out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's been other I think there's been others

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<v Speaker 2>that that have been in that position. I'm blanking on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Mayo Mayo, he yeah, exactly, Yeah, that that

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<v Speaker 2>was another one and he only got one season. So

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<v Speaker 2>again that's not as common. But I also won't be

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<v Speaker 2>shocked if you continue to see guys who don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any coaching experience but are well respect I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>that was Dion. I mean technically Dion, you know he did,

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<v Speaker 2>he had not played in a long time, but like

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<v Speaker 2>Dion really had no formal Like this is gonna sound

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm insulting him, and maybe it isn't insult He

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<v Speaker 2>could take it whatever he wants, and I'm sure he'll

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<v Speaker 2>never hear this, but Dion wasn't qualified for the Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>State job. Like there are guys who probably interviewed for

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<v Speaker 2>that job and applied that have been college football head

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<v Speaker 2>coaches for many years, successful at the lower level or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the same level of Jackson State. But obviously they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't do what Dion could do as far as the

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<v Speaker 2>reach and the value. So you know you can. But

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<v Speaker 2>but and he's also been there, like he's an elite level,

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<v Speaker 2>all time type athlete. Therefore, clearly he's been a part

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<v Speaker 2>of some really good environments and winning culture. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>those are the guys that are starting to get more

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities really at every level in sports. It seems like

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<v Speaker 2>like that's become a really and by the way, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's had more success in the pros than it

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<v Speaker 2>has in college. I mean, guys who get jobs, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we know that better than anybody around here, don't

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<v Speaker 2>we Guys who get jobs that you would never hire

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<v Speaker 2>because they just they're they're in the industry. Maybe they've

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe they're you know, they're in the business,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're they're successful. But like if the one if

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<v Speaker 2>the one factor that is dominating your decision is because

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<v Speaker 2>the guy played there, that's telling you a lot and

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<v Speaker 2>that we did that here it's happened to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different places, So maybe that's not the perfect comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys who you know, don't have a ton of experience,

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<v Speaker 2>but man, they're They've got a really good reputation in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL and football circle, so let's give him a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're just great leaders and they understand what it

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<v Speaker 2>takes to win and lead an organization, you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>that position. So again, maybe it's not the exact same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but I get PTSD thinking about people hiring somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>really the ultimate factor and why they're a candidate is

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<v Speaker 2>because you like them and they have a connection to

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<v Speaker 2>your program they played there. But anyways, it gives me

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<v Speaker 2>a good way to transition here into some college basketball talkers.

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville right now, I feel like the energy, the vibes

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<v Speaker 2>from within not only the program, but obviously the fans

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<v Speaker 2>are feeding off that. I feel like all of us collectively,

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<v Speaker 2>right everybody involved, from top to bottom, Pat Kelsey to

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<v Speaker 2>his entire staff, all of his players, all the administration,

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<v Speaker 2>all the fans. Like, the good energy is through the

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<v Speaker 2>roof and it's just been so fun in Louisville. Now

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<v Speaker 2>back in the top twenty five, for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>in four years. They are now a top twenty five team,

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<v Speaker 2>and they got a big challenge tomorrow compared to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to just considering the rest of the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean at SMU, a team that just put up

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and something points against against Miami, who, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, you want to make money in college basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>I've not been able to really capitalize on it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's usually a part of a parlay. But man, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to fade Miami right now. Miami they are Kenny

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<v Speaker 2>Payne fade worthy. I mean they are terrible, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think people are aware of that. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>usually don't find yourself thinking or paying much attention to

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<v Speaker 2>teams that you know that are like just really bad,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can benefit from it because they can't set

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<v Speaker 2>a spread high enough for them to cover. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>bad they are. Yeah, Miami just beat them one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventeen to seventy four. I mean it was did

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<v Speaker 2>you see the halftime score? Yeah, I was thirty to twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm worried. I mean, Lola could lose tomorrow. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that, because look, they could lose to teams when

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<v Speaker 2>they don't play well. But I also know that they're

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<v Speaker 2>good when they play well, and they played pretty damn

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<v Speaker 2>well for a good stretch now. So again, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>due for off game, but I'm not going to assume

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<v Speaker 2>that or expect that until I see any sign of it,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're just not that's just not who they are

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<v Speaker 2>right now. They are on a hell of a run

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they've just been so good defensively, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is a reminder that when you are so active

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<v Speaker 2>defensively and you are so precise in your game plan,

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<v Speaker 2>it really makes up for a lot. Because Louisville, let's

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<v Speaker 2>be real, they didn't have a I mean, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a great game statistically against Virginia, but it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter because they're just a lot better than Virginia, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know they won by fourteen. But here I am

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<v Speaker 2>having some you know, having some weird feelings that like

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot that these things do happen right when you

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<v Speaker 2>like your team and you have a high expectation because

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<v Speaker 2>kind of had a brief moment where I'm like, wait

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<v Speaker 2>a second, why didn't we beat Virginia by more than fourteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not mad, trust me. There was no bad

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<v Speaker 2>energy at all when it comes to the game Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>because things are great. But it's just you know the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that I had that brief moment of knowing, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you're welcome, Virginia. We could have beat your ass a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more than we actually did. You're welcome, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's just a good feeling to have because you you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have that. I mean, Louiell has proven and again

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we learned that this means nothing when you get

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<v Speaker 2>to the tournament because you know, the ACC sucks and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't care though, like I'm not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that it means nothing, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>others probably view it that way. But like, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just getting lost in just the run that they're

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<v Speaker 2>on the wind streak and again they're gonna lose. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they lose tomorrow, Like it's a real possibility and if

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if that happens, then you know we'll react

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<v Speaker 2>to it. But I mean, I'm I'm I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>hold this team to the standard that they've set. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean like they better go win or all

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<v Speaker 2>this means nothing because that they've fallen apart if they lose. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, like, it's just nice to know that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm I'm not a homer to look at Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>in the way they played in the last six seven

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<v Speaker 2>games and realize, yeah, despite SMU coming off of an

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<v Speaker 2>insane game, or they scored you know, I mean, SMU

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<v Speaker 2>scored a hundred again, one hundred and seventeen points. Their

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<v Speaker 2>only two losses in league play are to Carolina and Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, they're loss to Carolina was at Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>which not a bad loss by any means, although Stanford

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<v Speaker 2>did surprisingly beat Carolina on Saturday, which was another not

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<v Speaker 2>so good look for the ACC for being honest here.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, Louisville has put themselves in a position to

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<v Speaker 2>where they're gonna be expected to win every game the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the season internally, and I think fans again,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody's gonna lose their mind if they

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<v Speaker 2>slip up and lose to somebody just because look, that's basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Can happen. But if you look at the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule, I mean, they're going to be favored in

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<v Speaker 2>every single game I would imagine, maybe other than tomorrow. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that probably says more about the ACC than it does

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<v Speaker 2>anything else. But in fact, do you think they'll be

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<v Speaker 2>favored to mor against SMU. I kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they will be, But then again, it is at SMU

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<v Speaker 2>and SMU, you know, despite not really feeling like a

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<v Speaker 2>real threat in basketball, like they they're decent and for

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC, I think they right now, with the way

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<v Speaker 2>they've played, you probably put them maybe as the third

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<v Speaker 2>or fourth best team because Pitt keeps struggling Clemson, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could throw them in there, but Carolina loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know, I'm not worried about SMU, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's because I'm taking them lightly, but I happen

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<v Speaker 2>to believe Austin that it's more so because I just

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<v Speaker 2>know this Louisville team has shown that. Look they keep

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<v Speaker 2>playing the way they're playing, they're probably going to come

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<v Speaker 2>out on the winning end. Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see Louisville opening up as a and I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't looked at the lines at all, but I could

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<v Speaker 3>see them open.

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<v Speaker 2>I just checked.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not out yet, Okay, I could see it being

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<v Speaker 3>probably a three or four point favorite for Louisville to start.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Kim Pom has it as a two point loss

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<v Speaker 2>for Louisville. So again, maybe I'm not giving SMU enough respect.

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<v Speaker 2>They are in the top forty now in the Ken Palm,

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<v Speaker 2>but Louisville's you know, Louisl's in the top, in the

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<v Speaker 2>top thirty. So SMU is ranked, right, No, no, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not ranked. I think they're in the receiving votes. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>let me let me pull it up here, because Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>ended up coming in at number twenty five, which I

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<v Speaker 2>thought for sure they'd be ranked. Because Kelly U of

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<v Speaker 2>l stat Guru on Twitter x you can follow him

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<v Speaker 2>a real card game. He's great. He was tracking the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of teams ahead of Louisville that lost this weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were a lot of them. In fact, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two teams ahead of Louisville and last week's ap pole

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<v Speaker 2>regarding the you know where they were in the votes

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<v Speaker 2>and of course ranked, they all lost. That many teams lost.

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<v Speaker 2>So but then again, even with all that movement, it

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<v Speaker 2>still wasn't going to be like a sure thing, but

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<v Speaker 2>sure enough they did come in right at number twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five and SMU again not ranked, but they are. They're

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<v Speaker 2>receiving actually they're not receiving Yeah, well no, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>receiving any votes. So again, maybe I am justified and

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<v Speaker 2>just not really thinking that they're going to be much

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<v Speaker 2>of a threat. Now again, I think this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is because if Louisville's the team that we think they are,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't mean like the three eleaked, but like Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>if Louisville's run is, you know, is what I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it is. You know, I feel like SMU, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is looking at this. I don't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>act like where they's Super Bowl because it's not that.

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody knows what the acc is, right. There's not

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of opportunities for good wins. But Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>is in a position where of the few teams that

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<v Speaker 2>there is value if you beat them, it's Louisville and SMU. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>their resume is kind of tricky. They don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>win we're speaking of. Their best win is against LSU,

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<v Speaker 2>who's one of the worst teams in the ACC. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sorry the SEC and their losses. You know, one of

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<v Speaker 2>them's not good, Butler's a bad team in the Big East.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost to them, but the other losses are to

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State, Duke and Carolina. So I would imagine this

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<v Speaker 2>is a big game for SMU, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of nice to know that there's gonna be some

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<v Speaker 2>emphasis on beating Louisville because the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>it's just what everybody expected to do. It was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd find a team that came in here from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Division three maybe and they'd be able to, like in

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<v Speaker 2>their mind think, well, man, if there was ever a

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<v Speaker 2>team that, like, you know, was at national brand, that

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<v Speaker 2>the timing's on our side to get them. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where we were. But we're not there anymore, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a lot of fun. I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk on the other side about the Kentucky loss, because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think I've got this team figured out

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<v Speaker 2>to a t. They're pretty easy to figure out. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not an insult, but I think you know, that was

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<v Speaker 2>just the first time on Saturday where you you played

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<v Speaker 2>a team that did exactly what you wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and you all both played really really well. They just

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<v Speaker 2>played a little bit better, and that's what happened. Our

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<v Speaker 2>quick break keep a lock right here on Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go back into the NFL playoffs coming up here

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<v Speaker 2>in just a moment, But I do wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 2>quickly about this Kentucky Alabama game from over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>A I mean, a really really good game overall. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I had it on kind of in the background,

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<v Speaker 2>keeping up with it. Obviously, it was the same time

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<v Speaker 2>as the Louisville game, and then I didn't see the

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<v Speaker 2>end of it. I had to leave and go to

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<v Speaker 2>my son's game. But I went back and watched the

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<v Speaker 2>second half today just because it's it's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>games that you you know, you kind of wonder, how

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<v Speaker 2>did how did Kentucky you know, lose? Now, clearly both

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<v Speaker 2>teams played well, and you know when that happens, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever makes the big plays late in a close game.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that that's how that's how this works. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that. But somebody on the text line mentioned it

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<v Speaker 2>and I and I thought to myself, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they're right. And sure enough, you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>box score, I mean Kentucky was I mean, look, Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>shot better from the field. They were forty forty eight percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama was forty five percent. Kentucky made two less three pointers,

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<v Speaker 2>but they also shot a better percentage. They were forty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama was thirty eight percent. Free throws. I mean, Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>shot eighty percent from the line, and clearly, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that was a difference maker. You lost the game by five,

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<v Speaker 2>and but you know Bama shot more free throws and

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<v Speaker 2>they shot it slightly better, so you did. You did

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<v Speaker 2>get out rebounded, but just by just by a few.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, that was the perfect example of the

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<v Speaker 2>game for Kentucky that was possible, but it just hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>happened yet, right like they had they they they've come

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<v Speaker 2>out on the winning end every time until then when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to teams that want to do exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>they want to do, and it's just going to come

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<v Speaker 2>down to who can do it better. And both teams

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<v Speaker 2>probably feel really good about where they where they are,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you play, I mean, that was just a

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<v Speaker 2>really good matchup, and that's why you got a really

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<v Speaker 2>good basketball game. So I mean, Kentucky's going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Tuscaloosa and play them at their place, coming up

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<v Speaker 2>here before too long, and you know, if the game

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<v Speaker 2>is played the same way, maybe Kentucky ends up being

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<v Speaker 2>the one that just had enough to get the edge there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, if you are Kentucky, I would imagine

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you STI feel pretty good about your team,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that they could probably beat anybody on any given night,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what what what style of play can

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<v Speaker 2>make you vulnerable. But you also at this point I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like have seen some progress to where, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to get in those grinded out, slower games,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have gotten better in those. You know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of weeks, it seems right the win

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<v Speaker 2>against A and M, the win agains Mississippi State, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a nice that was a nice response from them,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know it just I just cannot wait to

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<v Speaker 2>see how the committee is going to seed the SEC,

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<v Speaker 2>because you can Kentucky right now is fourteen and four

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<v Speaker 2>and the rest of the way, I mean they're expected

417
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<v Speaker 2>to go twenty one to ten and ten and eight,

418
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<v Speaker 2>So like, usually that wouldn't be a record that would

419
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<v Speaker 2>get you a really really good seed, but it probably will,

420
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<v Speaker 2>and it's probably deserving. I mean, maybe they go on

421
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<v Speaker 2>a roll and start beating everybody. I mean, look, they're

422
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<v Speaker 2>off to a good start, but they still have to

423
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're at Tennessee on the twenty eighth. Then

424
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<v Speaker 2>of course there's that Arkansas game, which is, you know,

425
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<v Speaker 2>a tricky one, shouldn't be but I get it. And

426
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<v Speaker 2>then they play at Ole Miss, who's in the top twenty.

427
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<v Speaker 2>Then they got to play Tennessee again. They're gonna play

428
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<v Speaker 2>at Texas again, They're at Alabama in late February. So

429
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<v Speaker 2>you know they're going to stack up some more losses

430
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<v Speaker 2>along the way. I mean, I would expect, But it

431
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean they're not really good. It's just because they're

432
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<v Speaker 2>playing in such a great league. And I mean, I

433
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<v Speaker 2>think you're going to see some teams in the SEC

434
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<v Speaker 2>this year that have records that you know, aren't impressive

435
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<v Speaker 2>in the grand scheme of things, and you know, they're

436
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<v Speaker 2>probably middle of a pack in their league. But I

437
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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's crazy to think that that's still uh,

438
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think it's crazy to think that

439
00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:06.160
<v Speaker 2>they should still be given a really good seed because

440
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<v Speaker 2>they were dominant in the non conference. And look, I

441
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<v Speaker 2>wish their league wasn't great, but I watched basketball enough

442
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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be honest, their leagu's loaded. Like these teams

443
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<v Speaker 2>that are that are middle of the pack in that

444
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<v Speaker 2>league there, I think they're really good. I think they'd

445
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<v Speaker 2>be maybe some of the better teams than other leagues.

446
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I really do believe that. All right, let's

447
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<v Speaker 2>go back from fall months five x two. I have

448
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<v Speaker 2>seven one seventy nine the number if you want to

449
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<v Speaker 2>give us a call, let's go to let's go to Mark, Mark,

450
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<v Speaker 2>you're on sportstock seven ninety. How are you good? What's

451
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<v Speaker 2>up from from Newark? I'm sorry, I'm from Delaware, Newark. Okay,

452
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<v Speaker 2>I don't talk about the Eagles equals make it always

453
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<v Speaker 2>too bold awesome. They might they might.

454
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<v Speaker 4>Do that, I think, I mean, I think they can

455
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<v Speaker 4>be the commanders.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they they They're probably gonna be favored. And thank

457
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<v Speaker 2>you for the call. Mark. Yeah, the Eagles. I mean again,

458
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<v Speaker 2>I never at any point thought they were never at

459
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<v Speaker 2>any point thought they were not good. I understood that

460
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<v Speaker 2>they were favorites. Against the hot Rams, but I was.

461
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess what I'm realizing is their defense

462
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<v Speaker 2>is pretty nasty and you know, hurts. I think has

463
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<v Speaker 2>maybe taken a step back in the last couple of

464
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<v Speaker 2>years slightly. Still a good quarterback, but you know, he's

465
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<v Speaker 2>not been great. But you know who has been. I mean,

466
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<v Speaker 2>are you kidding me? With Sequon Barkley, that guy that's

467
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's one of the big I mean again,

468
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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like I'm exaggerating, and maybe I am getting

469
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<v Speaker 2>caught up in the recency of it, but like he's

470
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<v Speaker 2>gone from a guy that I mean, not only is

471
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<v Speaker 2>it insane, it in every aspect. Think about the notion

472
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<v Speaker 2>that we've had about running backs in the last I

473
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<v Speaker 2>don't know decade as far like if you got anything substantial,

474
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<v Speaker 2>if you got like twenty five percent out of Sequon

475
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<v Speaker 2>Barkley that you're getting right now, like twenty five percent

476
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<v Speaker 2>of how great he's been. I think even then the

477
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<v Speaker 2>Eagles would feel like it was a worthy move to

478
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<v Speaker 2>get in because he's still got some juice left. Now, dude,

479
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<v Speaker 2>he's playing like the best running back the NFL has

480
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<v Speaker 2>seen in a long long time. I mean, four rushing

481
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<v Speaker 2>touchdowns and yeh this this is from opt to Stats.

482
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<v Speaker 2>It says Sawan Barkley is the first player in NFL

483
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<v Speaker 2>history with four rushing touchdowns of sixty plus yards against

484
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<v Speaker 2>a single opponent in his entire career. All four of

485
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<v Speaker 2>the tds came in two games versus the Rams this season.

486
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's one of many crazy stats about just

487
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<v Speaker 2>how insanely productive he has been. And I mean he's

488
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<v Speaker 2>he is in my opinion, like he's what makes them

489
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<v Speaker 2>as good as they are. They're good in a lot

490
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<v Speaker 2>of aspects. They're pretty solid. There's a reason they won

491
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of games this year. So you know, I'm

492
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<v Speaker 2>not an Eagles fan by any means, but I just,

493
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<v Speaker 2>you know, they kind of were quietly having a great

494
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<v Speaker 2>season at least in my opinion, and seeing Sequan do

495
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<v Speaker 2>his thing on Saturday and just realizing they're pretty loaded

496
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<v Speaker 2>on defense, you know, it's impressive. And I mean, I'm

497
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be pulling for the Commanders just because I really

498
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<v Speaker 2>like their story, but won't be shocked at all if

499
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<v Speaker 2>if the Eagles punched their ticket to the Super Bowl.

500
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they've got that kind of a team, and

501
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe I kind of feel like a

502
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<v Speaker 2>bandwagon guy because I don't have any real reason. But

503
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<v Speaker 2>like I kind of like the Sequon Barkley story here.

504
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<v Speaker 2>I don't find anything else about the Eagles likable in

505
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<v Speaker 2>any way. No offense to Eagles fans that just you know,

506
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<v Speaker 2>he's never been, never been a fan. I have some friends,

507
00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:21.279
<v Speaker 2>this whole family is I have some friends that are fans,

508
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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I get it, but like it's just,

509
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I usually find myself kind of not pulling

510
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<v Speaker 2>for them. I don't think I'm alone there, but Barkley

511
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<v Speaker 2>has been really easy to root for because I feel

512
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<v Speaker 2>like he is he could have been a little petty

513
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<v Speaker 2>and you know, kind of rubbed it in New York's face,

514
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<v Speaker 2>but like he's been the bigger dude about it, and

515
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<v Speaker 2>it's not like they you know, they did let him walk,

516
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<v Speaker 2>which of course was something that now I would imagine

517
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<v Speaker 2>that they regret, But like he seems like a pretty

518
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<v Speaker 2>good dude. And I kind of just assumed that he

519
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<v Speaker 2>was going to be one of those guys that was

520
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<v Speaker 2>drafted really high. Everybody knew it was a physical specimen.

521
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody knew that he had a lot of talent, but

522
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<v Speaker 2>you know, injuries got to him and by the time

523
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<v Speaker 2>he got healthy, he was too old, because that's just

524
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<v Speaker 2>where running backs are, Like, I kind of thought that

525
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<v Speaker 2>was how things were going to play out for him,

526
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<v Speaker 2>And now he's having again. It feels like, I don't

527
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<v Speaker 2>know if the numbers back this up, but it feels

528
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<v Speaker 2>like he's had one of the best seasons any running

529
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<v Speaker 2>back has had in a long long time.

530
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<v Speaker 3>He's finally fully healthy.

531
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<v Speaker 2>He's never been fully healthy in a season. And what

532
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:17.480
<v Speaker 2>made him such a fenom like you're seeing every aspect

533
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<v Speaker 2>of it right now.

534
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it made him such a high drafts prospect

535
00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.359
<v Speaker 3>was of course all the intangibles, everything that he's obviously

536
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<v Speaker 3>can do as a runner. And he made the playoffs

537
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<v Speaker 3>and want a playoff game, but that offense was kind

538
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<v Speaker 3>of souped up by with Brian Dable and Daniel Jones.

539
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<v Speaker 3>They did the best that they could. But now he's

540
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<v Speaker 3>in a much better situation, probably better coaching, better organization,

541
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:43.200
<v Speaker 3>and they got one a hell of an offensive line.

542
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<v Speaker 3>Our guy Mackai Becton is there. They kind of just

543
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<v Speaker 3>revitalized his whole career in Philadelphia and he's like he's

544
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<v Speaker 3>a bust of a human being, just moving and they've

545
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<v Speaker 3>got I think they're Beckden. There's a local connection obviously

546
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<v Speaker 3>because of Louisill like you mentioned, but like Beckden and

547
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<v Speaker 3>Barkley obviouslyferent levels. They are good examples of guys that

548
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<v Speaker 3>always had the talent. I mean, Beckton was kind of

549
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<v Speaker 3>viewed as a bust a guy that maybe wasn't mature

550
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<v Speaker 3>enough when he first got to the league.

551
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<v Speaker 2>Barkley, that wasn't the case at all. It is just

552
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<v Speaker 2>injuries and at times, like you know, I don't even

553
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<v Speaker 2>think that the Giants knew how to utilize him, to

554
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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, But now they go to a

555
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<v Speaker 2>place with a winning culture like meaning that they like everybody.

556
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<v Speaker 2>The overall vibe inside the organization with the Eagles for

557
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.119
<v Speaker 2>quite some time now has been a very very successful,

558
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<v Speaker 2>winning culture, and they latched onto that. You know, they

559
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<v Speaker 2>they brought it and clearly they're they're they're thriving and

560
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<v Speaker 2>that matters. Right Like you, you can be held back

561
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<v Speaker 2>as far as not only what you're I mean, obviously

562
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 2>you can't do everything by yourself, but like you, even

563
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>as a player like you, your ceiling is lower in

564
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<v Speaker 2>every aspect when you're a part of a lousy franchise.

565
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:43.799
<v Speaker 2>You can still get paid a lot of money and

566
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<v Speaker 2>maybe they'll maybe they'll be suckers and give you more

567
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<v Speaker 2>money than you than you are worth. But I mean,

568
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<v Speaker 2>there's it matters, man, It matters what kind of environment

569
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<v Speaker 2>you're in. And I think Barkley again, I don't want

570
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<v Speaker 2>to blame the Giants, but like, clearly this guy's gone

571
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<v Speaker 2>through injuries. He's older now, but he's he's being utilized

572
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<v Speaker 2>now and he's playing and more. He's more productive than

573
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>he's ever been, it seems. All let's go back to

574
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<v Speaker 2>the fall months five way two. If I'm seven to one,

575
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<v Speaker 2>seventy nine hundred is the number. Let's go to Joe. Joe,

576
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<v Speaker 2>you're on Sports Talk seven ninety. What's up?

577
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<v Speaker 4>Hey, really enjoy your show. I'm glad you take calls.

578
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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Uh been been at this for a long

579
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<v Speaker 4>time in between sales calls. And I'm also I'm glad

580
00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:22.920
<v Speaker 4>that you throwing a little UK. I really appreciate.

581
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no problem.

582
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<v Speaker 4>Hey about the first about Louis of wait game winning streaker,

583
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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what I think. The game of rep

584
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<v Speaker 4>Aarena kind of made their season because they never gave

585
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<v Speaker 4>up and they play like that, and they played Kentucky,

586
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:35.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, very very tough.

587
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it felt like they earned so their respect

588
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.839
<v Speaker 2>from everybody in that one because you know, Kentucky played

589
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.480
<v Speaker 2>well and Louisville played well. Clearly Kentucky's a better team

590
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>this year. I don't think that would be different even

591
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.640
<v Speaker 2>if Louisville was healthy. But clearly it was a competitive game,

592
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I was hopeful that they'd be able

593
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.720
<v Speaker 2>to take some some positives despite those losses. And here

594
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<v Speaker 2>they are again. The competition not quite as tough, but

595
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:57.799
<v Speaker 2>not many teams are as tough when it comes to

596
00:26:57.880 --> 00:26:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky at Reparena. So I'm with you. I think that

597
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<v Speaker 2>was kind of a big moment for him, even though

598
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:01.400
<v Speaker 2>it was a loss.

599
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 4>Big moment. I think they should a lot of Kentucky

600
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 4>fans walked away saying, hey, little litt Will played great game.

601
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 4>They're back. But the other thing, a couple of things, Uh,

602
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.200
<v Speaker 4>don't don't sleep on the commanders. Man at this quarterback,

603
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 4>they've got special you Daniel, He's he's really really, really good,

604
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:21.160
<v Speaker 4>and they played great offense. He's got a great coach man.

605
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 4>This guy's he's kind of like Dan Campbell, he's doing

606
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<v Speaker 4>at your throat. Uh they can beat Philadelphia at Philadelphia.

607
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they can't too, And I'm gonna be

608
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:30.680
<v Speaker 2>pulling for him.

609
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, me too, Me too, Ray Davis, Ray, Ray Davis.

610
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<v Speaker 4>You remember him?

611
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I remember him all too well.

612
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's tough man. He's a tough kid. You know,

613
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:45.119
<v Speaker 4>he got homeless kid, lived in a car. Great story, yep,

614
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.319
<v Speaker 4>and uh, you know you gotta beat for guys like him.

615
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, I really enjoyed your show. Thank you for

616
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 4>taking calls instead of just text messages and all the

617
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 4>other craft. You know, it's good to you. Got a

618
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<v Speaker 4>lot of fans.

619
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<v Speaker 2>Out here like this. Sure, I appreciate you, Joe, thanks

620
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 2>for calling in. Appreciate you listening. Shate the con words, yeah,

621
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<v Speaker 2>Ray Davis. I mean he's a good example of a

622
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<v Speaker 2>guy that didn't you know, running backs. Now you could

623
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:07.680
<v Speaker 2>be you could be one of the best running backs

624
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:09.799
<v Speaker 2>in the draft and just go lower than you than

625
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 2>you used to just because the position has changed. But

626
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 2>he goes into a winning culture and he's he's he's right,

627
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's in his prom I would feel like

628
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 2>as far as you know, Age range and and what

629
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.599
<v Speaker 2>he can do. He was successful everywhere he played, including

630
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>at Kentucky. So yeah, I mean he's he's a guy

631
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>that that really I think that's best case scenario for

632
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of rookie running backs. Right, you end up

633
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and what I mean by that is that you get up,

634
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 2>you end up getting drafted. And because just how most

635
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:39.640
<v Speaker 2>franchises now handle that position, you're a you're a light

636
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>injury away from being given first you know, first string

637
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>carries as a rookie who might have been undrafted. Again,

638
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 2>that's just not unheard of anymore. But if that's the case,

639
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.160
<v Speaker 2>it's nice to be able to do that for a

640
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.559
<v Speaker 2>franchise that you know, you got a lot of good

641
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.440
<v Speaker 2>pieces around you to where look if the line's doing

642
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.440
<v Speaker 2>their parts, you know, you just be ready to be

643
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 2>called upon and and and get to work. And he's

644
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 2>clearly been. He's been successful for him. So look, the

645
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Bills team, like, I find them to be really likable,

646
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and yet last night it was just you know, the

647
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.759
<v Speaker 2>raw emotion got the best of me because I don't

648
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 2>like the Ravens. Therefore, whenever they lose, I mean I

649
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>just feel bad for Lamar and last night look, he

650
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:15.440
<v Speaker 2>was a factor in why they struggled. I mean, he

651
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>did not have a good first half. Those turnovers were

652
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 2>disastrous and ended up not costing him a whole lot

653
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:21.799
<v Speaker 2>of points in the grand scheme of things. But still,

654
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was a collective issue last night where

655
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:27.440
<v Speaker 2>they just weren't the same team that they had been

656
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>all year. And you know, I've had some pushback on

657
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:31.759
<v Speaker 2>the text line for people saying, well, hey, you know,

658
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 2>they also did play a really good Buffalo team at Buffalo,

659
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and you're right, but I also, you know, don't think

660
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 2>that I'm out of line and saying, hey, the Ravens,

661
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:41.759
<v Speaker 2>the team that you watched put together a really good

662
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.319
<v Speaker 2>regular season. They had a lot of things going on

663
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.599
<v Speaker 2>that really were not a part of their DNA in

664
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, Right, Like Mark Andrews,

665
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>not just the drop in the end zone and the

666
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>two point conversion, but you know, he had another drop,

667
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>He had a fumble after he caught it, Like that's

668
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.079
<v Speaker 2>not something you usually see this team do. Lamar's turnovers

669
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 2>were characteristic, I mean both of them. I mean, it's

670
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 2>happened before, but like, you know, if he did that,

671
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.279
<v Speaker 2>you know pretty often he wouldn't be winning his third MVP.

672
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.319
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I just I hated it. I hated

673
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 2>it in every aspect, and I took it out on

674
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:15.559
<v Speaker 2>the Bills, But overall I love their fan base, like

675
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>they're fun as hell. And you know, you can't call

676
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>many Bills fans bandwagon fans. I'm sure there's some out there,

677
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 2>but I know a lot of fans have been with

678
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 2>them for mostly bad times, especially if here's somebody like

679
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 2>my age. But they're rolling and uh yeah, I mean again,

680
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't really have a whole lot of rooting interest

681
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the way anybody at Kansas City, I suppose.

682
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:37.119
<v Speaker 2>But so we should get some good games here. Our

683
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 2>quick break will come back on the other side. Keep

684
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<v Speaker 2>it rolling along. It is Coffee and Company fuel by

685
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<v Speaker 2>Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

686
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on

687
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<v Speaker 2>I have a funny story about this song, actually, I think, right,

689
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it's funny, so maybe it'll be one of

690
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the many things that I still find that I say

691
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>hoping you know that you all think it's funny, because

692
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:00.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the job here is to try to

693
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.240
<v Speaker 2>keep you entertained and keep you listening. But at a

694
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.799
<v Speaker 2>buddy who right around the time we had graduated high school,

695
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't right after high school, but like it was

696
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:12.319
<v Speaker 2>shortly after, like a couple of years after, within that timeframe,

697
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>and he was still dating a girl that we that

698
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>we well actually she didn't go to school with us,

699
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>but he was dating her while we were in school,

700
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know, he kind of, you know, he's in college,

701
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:23.759
<v Speaker 2>he kind of wanted to kind of you know, do

702
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 2>his own thing and just didn't want to be tied down.

703
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 2>And they later got back together and they're now married.

704
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>But at the time, you know, he didn't dislike her.

705
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>He liked her a lot, and there was nothing like

706
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>he could say that was bad about the relationship. He

707
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of just didn't want to be in a relationship,

708
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.440
<v Speaker 2>which can be you know, kind of hard to just

709
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 2>say that. I mean, I'm sure it's happened many times,

710
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 2>but like, you know, you don't have a reason, but

711
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>you just don't want to be together. I would imagine

712
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>in most instances, the person being broken up with wants

713
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>to know, like, wait a second, there's got to be something.

714
00:31:57.400 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 2>This makes no sense. We've been together for a long time,

715
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>things are going great. Why would why like what what changed?

716
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.039
<v Speaker 2>What happened? What I do tell me more, I can't

717
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:09.119
<v Speaker 2>believe this. And that's that's how she was. And he

718
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.759
<v Speaker 2>didn't have anything. And he he told us like after

719
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>the fact, because we were like, dude, like we're telling

720
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.119
<v Speaker 2>him not to like we knew he's gonna regret it.

721
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 2>And again it all worked out. But when he told

722
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:23.000
<v Speaker 2>us like after the fact, uh, you know what he's

723
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 2>what he what he told her was he said love

724
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 2>love wasn't always on time and it just wasn't their timing.

725
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.519
<v Speaker 2>And he didn't know that this was a song. I

726
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>mean like yeah, and we didn't believe him, and you know,

727
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I feel like there'd be no there's

728
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>no benefit in lying. But like we laughed like that's

729
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>the that's so corny, and and and he was like, well,

730
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what else to say. And then like

731
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.559
<v Speaker 2>we later realized he didn't understand we were laughing because

732
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 2>he took some song from like he took some line

733
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>from a famous song. So you know, again I'm I'm

734
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 2>thinking to myself, like and now that I'm now that

735
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about it, like I don't know that's that

736
00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 2>that song came out when I'm gonna look it up.

737
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Now, you gotta be in the eighties. This is around

738
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:02.839
<v Speaker 3>like the Journey time. I probably have to say, like

739
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 3>eighty seven, eighty eight, Manu, it's Hold the Line by Toto.

740
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 2>And it came out, Is this right? So it's the

741
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:13.680
<v Speaker 2>title of the song. It's called hold the Line. Yeah,

742
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>hold the Line. It came out in nineteen seventy eight,

743
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:18.839
<v Speaker 2>so I mean, okay, it came out when my parents

744
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:20.559
<v Speaker 2>were in high school. But it's such a it's a

745
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 2>song that you've just heard so often in movies and

746
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>like you know, I don't know where it ranks all

747
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.559
<v Speaker 2>time and like music that has been played. But it's

748
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 2>also not a surprise that even though it came out

749
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>many many many years before I was born, like even

750
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>as a twenty year old, like I knew, like when

751
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 2>I when somebody said love isn't always on time, I'm

752
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 2>thinking of this song. But he claimed that he had

753
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>no clue, and like you know, he said, Haiti, had

754
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>he known that it was like gonna be made fun

755
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>of by everybody, because like he just stole the line

756
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>thinking that nobody would notice, then he probably wouldn't have

757
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 2>done it.

758
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.559
<v Speaker 3>But imagine her just going and telling her parents like, well,

759
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 3>what did he say?

760
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:51.240
<v Speaker 2>What's what happened?

761
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Well?

762
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 2>What's crazy, though, is that if it wasn't a song

763
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>like it actually is a good line, it's like great,

764
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. Look like for his situation,

765
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean I kind of give a lot of credit

766
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.039
<v Speaker 2>because I'm giving I'm giving him the benefit of the

767
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 2>doubt that he didn't know that he stole it.

768
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:05.759
<v Speaker 3>He did, it's not in the way that her love

769
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 3>set him free. Yeah, love isn't always on time.

770
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

771
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like if you just you know, if you

772
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:14.320
<v Speaker 2>just feel like everything's great, but something's telling you, like

773
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>the timing is it now? I mean, love isn't always

774
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>on time, Like it's actually very much. Yeah, it's it's

775
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.079
<v Speaker 2>a bar. It's just you know, he stole it and

776
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize it. So I think when you steal something

777
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>without knowing it, I mean, you still can't do it.

778
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.360
<v Speaker 2>But if you don't know, it clearly removes the intent

779
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 2>that you were like robbing somebody. You know, you had

780
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>no clue. So anytime I hear that song, I now

781
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>think of my buddy who again it all worked out,

782
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.360
<v Speaker 2>but they, you know they, I think somebody requested that

783
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 2>be played at their wedding and you know, they didn't

784
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>let it be played. I think it might be a

785
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 2>sore subject, especially you know on your wedding.

786
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Lie story though, Yeah, that that band also sings uh

787
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 3>I bless the Reins.

788
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Down, which is just also like the a lot going

789
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>on in that song, A lot, like just kind of

790
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what it is, but I know

791
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I know I feel good when it's on,

792
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:04.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like it's just kind of

793
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 2>that kind of that vibe, so so good stuff. Life

794
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>isn't always on time, it's right. So do you find

795
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.320
<v Speaker 2>yourself not necessarily like really just exploring music from different eras.

796
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 2>But I think for the last ten years or so

797
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 2>of my life, I've really, like each year, realized that

798
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of music that came out long before

799
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:27.599
<v Speaker 2>I was born that like I really I gravitate to,

800
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Like it'sh yeah, you know, it's not like I have

801
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 2>nostalgia because again it wasn't my era, but like, I

802
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know, this is I feel like an old man

803
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>because I'm thinking back then I wasn't there to experience it,

804
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like, man, there was a lot more

805
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:41.280
<v Speaker 2>artistry in what people were doing, and I can really

806
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.159
<v Speaker 2>dig that. It's not like a hippie well.

807
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, my whole vibe has been nothing but like

808
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Grand Theft, Auto songs, like Vice City. We had the eighties,

809
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.760
<v Speaker 3>like Miami type of music going. This one was actually

810
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 3>on San Andreas, but like that's where a lot of

811
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 3>my music palette came from growing up was video games.

812
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.199
<v Speaker 3>The old SmackDown versus were all for, like my hard

813
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 3>rock and indie rock stuff. Tony Hawk's pro Skater we

814
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 3>talked about that for some of that emo edgy music

815
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>and then grant that thought. It just always had a

816
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:14.000
<v Speaker 3>banger of a playlist. So I would always remember sitting

817
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 3>down with my dad playing this and him singing the

818
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 3>song too. I'm like, well, if dad likes this, and

819
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 3>I'd like this. This is back from when he was

820
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 3>growing up. So I learned a lot through old video

821
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 3>games and stuff like that, and obviously loving some of

822
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 3>the older mother dad Kirk. I got two dads, two dads,

823
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:33.039
<v Speaker 3>and my other dad, Kirk was a karaoke monster back

824
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 3>in the day, and he knows all these songs. He

825
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.000
<v Speaker 3>knows about like all the bands. So just kind of

826
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 3>sitting down, you gravitate mood.

827
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you gravitate to it as well because you want

828
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<v Speaker 2>to be into what you know the people you look

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<v Speaker 2>up to are into and if you're exposed to it

830
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.039
<v Speaker 2>more so because of that, it kind of grows on you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why, like I became a real nerd for nineties

832
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 2>country because that was like when I first discovered music

833
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:55.519
<v Speaker 2>and like knew, like, hey, I hope the radio station

834
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:57.480
<v Speaker 2>plays the song that I like when I'm in my

835
00:36:57.519 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 2>mom's car. Like that was when we were bootscooting and

836
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 2>boog in with Brooks and Dune. So like that that

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00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>era kind of stuck with me.

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<v Speaker 3>But man, they were popping in the old cassette was

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<v Speaker 3>to record them off the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah. But like you know, Jim Crochey is somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that I really I really like, and you know, this

842
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.679
<v Speaker 2>guy died in nineteen seventy three, but like I'm hearing,

843
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't mess around with Jim Operator. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean bad bad Leroy Brown. I got a name time

845
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 2>and a bottle, Like I hear Jim Krosche. I'm like,

846
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 2>this guy is awesome. So I don't know, I doubt that,

847
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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you if you did a study on

848
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<v Speaker 2>people who are listening to that kind of stuff, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, James Taylor, Fire and Rain, like, I would

850
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<v Speaker 2>imagine if you pulled data, which you can, I don't

851
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<v Speaker 2>doubt anybody will. But if you pull data to see

852
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<v Speaker 2>what demo, what age range is listening to that the most,

853
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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine I'm in the minority. I would imagine

854
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 2>it's not people necessarily in my age range, but you know,

855
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.719
<v Speaker 2>people you know, you like what you like. Everybody's got

856
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.840
<v Speaker 2>their own preferences. But I feel like there's not rare

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<v Speaker 2>There's rarely something really new that I'm really into, And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'm sure I'm not a hater. It's

859
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<v Speaker 2>just nothing really that's new in music this day and

860
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 2>age really of any genre kind of hooks me. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's stuff that's fifty sixty years old, but it's new

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<v Speaker 2>to me. So like that's kind of where I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>My interest in music is just kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>going back the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Like hyper fixated on one song, start listening to that

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<v Speaker 3>the only song you listen to that week

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, all right, we got an hour left, so

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<v Speaker 2>stick around five o'clock hour, coming up right here on

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<v Speaker 2>a sports Talk seven ninety