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Speaker 1: Welcome to Squatching Holler.

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Speaker 2: In the midst where the trees lean loom. Squatching Hollers

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got a tail. The show wisps.

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Speaker 3: Creep like a creature spained out.

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Speaker 2: Every shadows got a secret to grow?

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Speaker 4: Monsters rise Where the stories are too?

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Speaker 5: Squatching hollow where the legends are born?

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Speaker 2: Are they? Are they gone? Who can say?

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Speaker 6: In the hollow of the truth, justifs huge footprints fade

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where the creek runs them a lantern sways? Let the

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search be in rustling leaves, But there's no one near?

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Speaker 2: Is it the wind or the beast?

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Speaker 7: You fear?

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Speaker 2: Everywhere goes a question. Every Russell's a clue. Splatching hollis

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got its eyes on you. Monsters nor stories are torn? Swatching?

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How where the legends are born? Are they? Are they gone?

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You can say?

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Speaker 8: Then said, and out with your Squatching Holler. Hosts Roger Williams,

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Amanda Stowers and Ashley Rams. Remember this podcast can be

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downloaded everywhere great podcasts are found.

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Speaker 2: And now the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey everybody a long time no.

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Speaker 6: Chair.

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Speaker 9: This week we're back.

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Speaker 3: How's it going? Yeah we're back. Yeah we yeah it

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we uh we missed last week. We apologize, but stuff happens.

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So that's our first one in forty forty one week.

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So yeah, so.

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Speaker 9: We're rocking and rolling. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh, we thank everybody for being here. I want to

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bring up something before we get going. I think loaded

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it here. So in August, Uh, we will be at

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the Tennessee wild Man Cryptocon Crypticon again. We will be

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We'll have a table, Woodwalkers will be beside us, and

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then Chad and Erica will be uh there with us.

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They'll have their own table. And what's funny is we

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met them uh I think it was two years ago

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there and then they just kind of got accepted to

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the family and uh we told stories and they were looking.

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I think we overwhelmed them a little bit. But uh,

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they're gonna be They're gonna be there, y'all. A lot

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of people in Chad have been there. Uh it's a

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really good it's a really good one. It's you know,

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relaxed atmosphere. They have great speakers and there's all kinds

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of different boosts set up you. Maybe you can find

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you something you know that you like to purchase. I know, uh,

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somebody you know about a wooden bigfoot. Last year I

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don't know if you brought that good process too, but anyway,

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hold on me. Well, yeah, for y'all, forgot how to

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do a show? Okay, so took a week off.

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Speaker 9: Done forgot?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I'm like, how do I turn this

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thing on? At least I didn't have a lot of

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updates this time, which usually you know that happens. But tonight, y'all,

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we have Miss Michelle Heaton and she's you know, we

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we cover mainly east of the Mississippi, but we like

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to have people from all over to share their experiences

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and and Michelle, she was telling us backstage, Uh, she

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travels to other states and goes on expeditions and all that,

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and I was kind of jealous because I would love

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to be able to do that and you know, stay

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gone for a while and more about you know about

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different he is. Let's go, let's get the squatching, all right.

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So ah h, they're great. Thank y'all again for being here.

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All right, Miss Michelle, how you doing?

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Speaker 10: Hi, I'm good to hear are you guys doing.

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 10: Yes? Can you hear me.

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Speaker 3: Doing good? Yeah? I think I think I'm lagging a

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little bit. Five days I guess. Let me, let me

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make sure we got everything we're supposed to be here,

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all right. So Michelle, uh, you want to tell it

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h our chat and people that will be listening a

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little bit about yourself and I know you've got it.

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Maybe several from Facebook. Just tell them where they can

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find you at.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely. Hi. I'm Michelle Heaton. I'm the founder of

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Sweet Home Sasquatch and that's where I reside. I live

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in Sweet Home, Oregon. We're in central Oregon in the

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Cascade Foothills, so my backyard are the beautiful Cascades. It's wonderful,

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Speaker 9: I'm jealous incredibly squatching.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, it's well, it's a what do they call it,

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a subtropical rainforest, so you know we get rain probably

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's really beautiful. And then I of course I

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just started my other group as Girls Gone Squatching. That's

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what I'm in chat right now, as Girls Gone Squatching.

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Speaker 9: I pulled up a second again.

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Speaker 10: That was yeah, that was me. So yeah, that's just

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a project that I've actually been working on for a

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long time and I finally found the girls that a'most

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squatching with me. So I'm excited for Georgia. Absolutely sure.

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I will be there eventually, for sure.

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Speaker 9: So how long have you had those groups?

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Speaker 3: So we'll start out, Yeah, hold on, oh even come back.

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Speaker 9: In there, he goes, Okay, he's gonna log out and

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Speaker 10: To answer your question, Amanda. So I've been squatching a

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hardcore here for about three years. I started having dreams

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of sasquatch when I was little, so it's always been

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like kind of like a hobby, and just recently I

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turned it into a lifestyle. And it was because I

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started having sightings up here in the Cascades, so I thought,

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you know what, I'm just going to explore this and

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see where it takes me. And you know, I've got

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a background in journalism, so it just kind of I'm

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what I'm doing is I'm kind of following the flow

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and letting it take me where it takes me, and

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it's just taking me deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole.

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Speaker 9: So I like it. That's how my journey has kind

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of started as well with all this just where just

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going with the flow. What takes me here takes me there?

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How I ended up here on Squatch and Holler with

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Roger and all the other stuff I'm doing as far

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as Bigfoot goes. And it's a fun ride.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it really is. And it's surprising as well, because

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you know, at first, I was kind of, you know,

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maybe I don't want to say this, or I don't

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want to say that because I don't want to offend anybody,

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and I don't want to sound crazy. But when you've

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seen a sasquatch, you've seen a sasqu watch, there's nothing

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else to say about it, you know, so and you

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have to speak your truth, you know exactly. You got

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to get out of your comfort zone sometimes.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, being in this is definitely out.

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Speaker 3: It was weird. Yeah, it was weird, Michelle. I never

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had been to a big Foot conference, and in twenty

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three I hadn't started the show yet, and I was

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kind of thinking about it, and I went to Gallinburg

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and I ended up on stage telling my story you

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talking about I was about to pass out, but just

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what you said before I went on, I'm like, hey,

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this is your story, you know the story, you know.

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it out there was amazing. Uh. You know, you had

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that that feeling of, like you said, not wanting the

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people to think you're crazy. But then again, if you

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don't tell your story, you're you're not helping anybody. And

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we we found out that this, this is what this

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is about, also learning, sharing experiences, sharing knowledge, and and

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helping people deal with you know this and I missed it.

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How old were you when you saw the sasquatch for

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Speaker 10: Well, I've been having dreams of sasquatch since I was five.

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My first sasquatch sighting was literally last summer. Oh wow, yeah,

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I know, and then I and then during that last

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Speaker 3: And that's and that's what you know. People you know,

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they think you know, people that go on expeditions or

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get out in the woods, you know, let's say fifty

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times a year. Most of the time, not much happens. You

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may find little evidence here or there, but when it

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does happen to you, it's life changing.

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Speaker 3: And then then you're like, Okay, these things are real.

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Now what I do you know? So it's it. I

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love the fact that there are people that you know,

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they start groups and you kind of you have a

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core group of people that you trust and they trust you.

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you're camping out in the woods, you have to have

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a team. I think a lot of people go solo.

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post on Facebook. Yeah, but do y'all get to go?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely? I try to go every day. If I could

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go every day, I would. Right now. I'm homeschooling my daughter,

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so she gets out of school here pretty soon. Actually

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we're taking the last week off of school so we

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can go squatch and so fabulous. I love it, yep.

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My My research area is as the crow Flies. I

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to drive about thirty five miles to get to you know,

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where it's at because the road is real windy and

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it goes through the mountains and stuff, and I go

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pretty deep in but I can stand in my backyard

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and see my research area from my backyard.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Have you noticed certain in your area, you know, like

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here with our extreme heat and humidity, it kind of

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slows things down, and of course that makes of course,

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we still go probably knowing not anything will happen. But

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data too, you know. Okay, we pretty much know we're

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not gonna have anything happen, but we go spend time.

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so many, and I was trying to think, well, where

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are they going? You know, because they're here through like

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but we you know, we can. We can go out

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there and have a good chance of hearing something or

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whatever finding tracks. But have you noticed is it kind

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of year round in your area or their patterns?

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Speaker 10: It is? No, it is year round. There's busier seasons

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like spring and fall. We get a lot of activity

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in the winter, not so much during the summer. It's

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kind of surprising so the main road that goes through

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my area is all BLM land, so it's free camping, right,

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and all these people they can't. And then they have

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a sighting and they go back and they go straight

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to the ranger station and they give their reports to

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the ranger station, and then my girls or up there.

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So I go up to the ranger station and I

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collect reports and then I give them business cards. I'm like, hey,

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you know, somebody tells you about because they can't really

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take reports, you know, so I'll give them and they'll

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give them my business card for me. So I get

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people who call me and they're like, yeah, we're out

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here visiting from Arizona, you know, and we had a sighting.

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a pattern, you know, and location and the kinds of

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experiences that they have our up here. They like to

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throw rocks. They're rock throwers, and they don't they don't

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do it maliciously. They're not throwing them at people, but

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they threw on it that I was standing. One time,

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I was I was outside my car and we were

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shining a ridge for eyeshine, and one of my girlfriends

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was with me and she goes, she whistled, and it

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was at night, and I said, no, don't.

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Speaker 10: And I that Two seconds later, a rock probably about

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the site, maybe a little bit smaller than a baseball,

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comes whipping off that ridge and hit the basket on

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top of my car and it goes bring. You know,

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I was like, see, I told you don't be whistling

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at night around here.

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Speaker 9: That's good to know that they talk about that on

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your side as well as they do that over here

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in the action for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well like here growing up we heard that, but they

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wouldn't tell you why, you know, and then make you won't.

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And here we've had we've had rocks thrown here, usually

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when we either wore out or welcome we went too

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much to an area too many, like within two weeks

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or the first time. On the South end, I think

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nobody had been there in years, and we were scouting

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for hunting and and and a lot of times, you know,

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people say throwing rocks. It was kind of tossed, you know,

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it arcd over and and and it. You know, I

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don't think it was trying to hurt us. But it

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what has amazed me talking to people from all over

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the world actually now, but especially in this the country.

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It's a lot of the similarities that you know, they

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may look a little different, smelled a little different, but

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the the things they do are pretty much the same.

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So uh, it's just know, I don't even know where

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to go now, Like it's like we've peaked here, like

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I don't I don't know. I don't want to make

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them mad. I've almost got to the point where we

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go out there, we enjoy it, and I kind of

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actually kind of talk in my head a little bit,

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hey we're here, we're not We don't don't want to

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hurt you, you know whatever. And it seems like in

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these two different areas since I started doing that, and

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I guess they know we're not gonna leave, it's kind

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of calmed down from where it was at the beginning.

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I don't know if that's a trust thing or they

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recognize us and to hear the similarities and you know,

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like patterns. It it's good that you you're paying attention

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because that that'll lead to more success, you know, in

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in what you're doing. How many people do you have

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kind of in your local group that go with.

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Speaker 10: Well, right now, I have two people in my local group.

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I kind of you know people they kind of they

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recycle themselves. You know, they have they have jobs, they

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have families, they have you know, just other things that

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they're not obsessed like I am me, you know. So,

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and I'm fortunate enough to where I you know, I

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don't have to work, and I can stay at home

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with my kid, and I can I homeschoolers, so we

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could pretty much go out whenever we want to, you know,

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And so I have. Yeah, I've got a couple of

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people who are doing research with me now, and neither

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of them are local. So most of the research that

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I do out here is just by myself with Pemma,

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my daughter. You know, she's learning a lot and it's

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really awesome. So and she's you know, she likes it.

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It's fun for her. She gets to ride in the car,

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and she gets to see animals and you know, maybe

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even a bigfoot. We collect did a cast today and

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she was excited about it.

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Speaker 3: So it would be too Yeah, yeah, we need to

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do a show and have some people on to show

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how to actually cast. I don't I don't have any

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casting material.

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Speaker 9: I don't either, Yeah, like hide my head and shape.

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Speaker 3: And people. People have got on to me like you're

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find these tracks, you take pictures of them, you put

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things beside them, you need to do the cast, And

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I'm like, I don't really want to stay in the

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area that long, you know what I mean, like if

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they just especially if it's fresh. Yeah. Oakridge Bookfoot Museum.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just saw this question. Have I been to

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the Oakridge? My friend Priscilla owns it, so of course

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a lot. Yes, Yeah, it's really great. Area fifty eight

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is the name of it. She puts on the Sasquatch

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Summer fust in July every year. So the museum is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's cool. And did we tell you the

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mando she works at the or she might have told

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you while I was going at the expedition Bigfoot Museum

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in North Georgia, so yeah, she make.

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Speaker 9: It that far. Yeah, that's one of my big steps

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obviously into this subject matter. I was already into it

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long beforehand. And then yeah, working there in it every day,

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like said somehow another that being Bigfoot is my day job.

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Speaker 10: So right, you know, I've heard great things about that museum.

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Actually that's on my bucket list.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, well, please let me know whenever you're coming,

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and I'll make sure that i'm there and that David

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the Odor of the museum is there, so y'all can

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can meet up and talk. He would love to pick

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your brain.

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Speaker 10: Awesome. Yeah, I will definitely let you know for sure. Yeah,

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you were talking about like the squatching over there. I

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was in Tennessee in January, and I thought it was

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really amazing. I wasn't expecting as much as what I saw,

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just structure wise. The structures were so big. They're huge,

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and they're so detailed, Like you they have a function.

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One of the structures I got to tell you guys this.

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This was in Cherokee National Forest down by Gatlinburg. Yeah,

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oh my god. I could not believe it. So there's

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this trail and it's pretty deep into the wilderness and

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there it's a three a three logged I guess, structure huge,

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just massive. It's two logs on one side of the

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road and there it looks like they would they'll they're

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ready to fall forward, but they're crossed right and there's

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one huge tree on the other side of the road

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and they're leaning into each other and that one on

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the other side of the road is holding them up,

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and it's just it was amazing. I could not believe it. It was.

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And when we drove, yeah, and we drove underneath it.

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I stopped before we drove underneath it because I thought

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I felt like I was going into another place. Yeah, exactly.

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So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do this because

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that's what I do. I do it right. So I

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floored it and I went underneath it because I didn't

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want to fall on top of me. And when we

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got into the other side of it, I had one

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of my girlfriends with me, and both of us just

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instantly got like this. It was so weird. I know

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it sounds crazy, but it was like this russure right

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in our head and then kind of like this buzz

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in our ears, like we really did cross into another

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frequency or something, you know, But it was just like

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the whole the air pressure changed everything. It was really strange.

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It was strange. And so we stayed over there on

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the other side for about ten minutes or so, came

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back through our ears popped. It was gone, you know.

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Speaker 9: Other than the pressure changed your ear or anything like that.

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Was there any other things that you've seen, heard, smelled,

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anything like that while you were on the other side

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of the I'm going to call it the gate.

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Speaker 10: Yeah nothing. I mean we saw what they were possible

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smaller structures, but not you know, nothing else, no prints

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or anything. We didn't, you know, see any sasquatch or

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anything like that. But man, that structure just had us mystified.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that was you were braver than me going on

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the other side of it.

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Speaker 10: I'm pretty brave.

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Speaker 3: When I when I heard you say that. It's just

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a couple of years ago. I was sitting still in

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a field in a chair right at daylight, and I

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wasn't moving. I felt pressure in my ears and my

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right ear started buzzing, and then I heard two heavy

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footsteps just over out of sight, not far twenty five

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thirty yards, and it sounded like something. And we've had

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stuff happen at this place. And I came back and

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started asking people, have you ever had your pressure now

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going up?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 3: It had that happen, and that is the same thing.

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Something's wrong on my it's buffering. But anyway, I started

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asking people from different parts of the man, I don't

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know what. Yeah, y'all go, y'all, go ahead, this we got.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna meet you for a second while you fix

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work on that. H never mind, doublets, try it again.

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Speaker 3: All right, Yes, I don't know what's going on, y'all. Sorry.

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Uh so you're you drove from Oregon to Tennessee and

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then all around the country. The the eastern part of Tennessee.

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Tennessee is kind of weird, you know, over towards me

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Sip in the west, it's flat, and then here you

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have the foothills of the mountains it's still doing it.

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And but over there it's uh there there looks like

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places where nobody stepped foot on. You know, it's just

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so rural and places. Uh. What was your favorite part

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of the trip to East Tennessee.

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Speaker 10: It was so cool. So I was visiting my friend Michelle,

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and she's in my girl's gun squat chain group. She's

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actually my twin Flames. She's like, if you saw us together,

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we just finish each other sentences. She's so cool. So anyways,

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I was over there visiting her, and believe it or not,

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she so she lives in Kingsports right on the border

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of West Virginia, right and literally like she's right there,

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and uh, it's very wooded, a very wooded area, and

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she lives way up high above the city. She's got

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a great view up there, and there's this creek that

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comes down by her house and I Am not even

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kidding you. There's this wooded area and it's right next

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to one of those like, uh, it's where all the

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power connectors and stuff are, you know, and there's a

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fence around it, you know, like bosses.

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Speaker 9: Like substation kind of thing. Yeah, I think that's what

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I call down here.

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Speaker 10: Right yeah, like a substation. And right there in that part,

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there's no like it's you know, it's kind of far out.

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It's not someplace where a lot of people would even

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take their bicycle through, like on the road, because the

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road just kind of drops off. There's no people there.

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There's no tents there, and there's these really beautiful elaborate

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structures inside the small area that came down from the

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creek that goes up into the woods, into the forest.

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And I'm trying to figure out, like we're still kind

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of confused about it. She says she can sit right

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there in her house and look down there and there's

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no people there there's not a trail there or anything.

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But these these huge, huge logs you would literally need

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a crane to lift, are setting balancing inside of the

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nooks and crannies of another huge tree. And I'm just like,

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how did this happen?

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Speaker 9: You would like, how that would fall? And I mean

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it could happen, you know that where it could just

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land just perfectly. But for something like that that happened

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frequently in one small location, that's very interesting.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was really weird. And then not only that,

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but then aside from that, there's all these smaller structures

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that you could tell are very deliberately placed, you know.

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So having the two of them together as kind of

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an indicator, you know, if it was one or the other,

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you'd be like, well you could blow it off, well

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that was human made, or while that you know, fell

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like that. But having both of them there, it was

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mind boggling. And I actually believe that's like the best.

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That was my favorite part of being in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Did you get to talk to did you get to

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talk to any of the locals about uh you maybe

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encounters or hearing any stories while you were there?

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Speaker 10: Yep, I did. So there is a lake. I wish

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I could remember the name of it. It's pretty popular

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over there and a lot of people go fishing there.

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I even it might even be a reservoir. I can't

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remember the name of it, but anyways, there are a

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lot of I noticed there's a lot of fishermen in Tennise, Tennessee.

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So they were kayaking and finish fishing, and they were

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going through an area where there's like a park on

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the other side, and then on this side of the

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lake is like a real steep slope and it goes

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up a mountain. And he said that it was probably

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like around dusk, and he was in the kayaking he

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heard something, so I looked up. I think he heard

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something fall down the mountain. And he looked up and

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he saw one and it just stood up and it

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sidestepped up the mountain, and he said it scared him

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so bad. He was afraid it was going to pick

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up a rock and throw it at his kayak. But

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I was like, you know, I mean, obviously the rock

471
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,720
that came down didn't hit your kayak. I think people

472
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:29,119
get there, and I understand it. People get so afraid

473
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,400
and intimidated, especially if it's dark or whatever. But really,

474
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,279
if they wanted to hurt us or they wanted to

475
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:38,400
kill us, they do it right away, you know, without

476
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,519
us even knowing about it.

477
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:44,119
Speaker 9: So many people said too in other conversations I've had,

478
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,599
people's minds are blown for that split. Sicken and fear

479
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,599
is usually the first thing that hits them because you know,

480
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,759
our whole lives are told these are things that are

481
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:55,839
not supposed to exist, And all of a sudden, you

482
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,440
see something there that looks very human, is not human

483
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,720
in his way bigger than you. So if it wanted

484
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:05,640
to hurt you, it could. Yeah, definitely, since that primal

485
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,839
fear in the people.

486
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 10: Absolutely, yeah, just recently, so just recently, we literally like

487
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,480
two days ago Jason left. Jason Kenzie was here filming

488
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:21,039
with Sweet Home Sasquatch, and we had an experience. It

489
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:24,799
was so awesome. So we decided that we were all

490
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:26,559
going to stay in the tent one night, and we

491
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,359
were going to do it right in the habitat, which

492
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:32,359
I've never done before. I've never camped in the habitat,

493
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:35,359
And we were going to set out a like a

494
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,559
voice recorder, and we were going to just camp out

495
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,599
over the night. And it was really really super quiet,

496
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,799
and I was in a deep so everybody was sleeping,

497
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:50,720
and all of a sudden I heard crack and it

498
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,200
woke me up. It was so loud it woke me

499
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:56,480
up and I opened my eyes. And then right after that,

500
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:02,279
I heard about three or four heavy footsteps June, real

501
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:06,279
slow like it was just and then it faded away.

502
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,920
It faded out, and I was like, Jason, everybody in

503
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,720
the tank kind of wakes up and they're all like,

504
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:18,480
huh you know, oh okay, everybody goes back to sleep.

505
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:21,079
I was like, big it. But so that's what I

506
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,720
was doing before I got online with you guys. I

507
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:26,279
was going over my audio because I know I got

508
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:29,880
it on audio I had to have, but it was Yeah,

509
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,440
when we woke up the next morning, I had seven

510
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:35,559
hours of audio left on this and I left it running.

511
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:43,000
It got turned off three hours in right, Yeah, that's

512
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,880
what I thought. So I thought, I wonder if it,

513
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,960
like whatever it was, walked over and turned it off

514
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,119
or you know, because they talk about how sometimes their

515
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:57,480
energy will mess with things, like was it their energy

516
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,079
that turned it off? You know, just to just to

517
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,799
make sure, right you it just turned it off. It

518
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,279
didn't drain the battery. Yeah, I know the battery is fine.

519
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 9: Okay, Yeah, that's even more interesting because it you know,

520
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,279
with energies and stuff that will drain the battery right

521
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:17,599
to turn it off. But it just straight turned itself off.

522
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 10: That's interest.

523
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: It was so weird and that and the more you

524
00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:25,079
do that, uh, it's still shocking when it happens. We

525
00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:27,480
were out there l b L a few months back

526
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:33,680
and Spencer had his uh thermal I think Anthony had it,

527
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,519
and he had the phone. He was looking at what

528
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,519
he was looking at, and we were watching and all

529
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:44,440
of a sudden, every and everything's fully charged and we're

530
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,240
watching and every it starts glitching and he said, this

531
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:51,240
has never done that before. And I'm watching it and

532
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,440
I'm like, what is going on? He said, I don't

533
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,359
know what this is. And you know, of course the

534
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,839
l b L there's some strange areas in that place,

535
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,680
and you know, then we start talking about I had

536
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,039
a one hundred and twenty dollars flashlight. It was fully

537
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:11,480
charged and it was working at where we were at there.

538
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,440
By the time I get to the next area, it

539
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:17,159
won't come on. And I get back to the cabin

540
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,760
later almost before daylight and it's working. I didn't charge it.

541
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,199
It started working again, so I'm with you. You hear people

542
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,599
hear researchers all the time. They don't. I don't know

543
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:35,079
what it is. I had something pretty scary going on

544
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:38,280
one time, me and my dog and in in one

545
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,599
of our research areas. There's something standing in front of

546
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:45,519
me making noise, and I can't see it. There's nothing

547
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,199
in between us. I can't see it. My dog's scared

548
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:53,119
to death. Everybody's heard this before, but I was filming

549
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:57,360
with my phone, and you know when something stops recording

550
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,719
or whatever, it did just go black.

551
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 7: You know.

552
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: Well, when I rewatched it, just before that sound started,

553
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,239
I turned. I heard something I was turning, and the

554
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,840
video blurs for a second or two and then stops.

555
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:17,599
So I don't know what happened. I thought I caught

556
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:21,119
that sound, but yet when I get back, it just

557
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:24,880
stopped and I didn't touch it. So that was a

558
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,679
big gut punch because I was really After I got

559
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,719
out of there, I was like, oh, think, thank god

560
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,920
we made it out. But I've got some evidence. I

561
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,840
want to I want people to hear this, see this,

562
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:41,360
and it wasn't there so yeah, I don't know if

563
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,599
we'll ever figure that out. Let me ask you this

564
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:48,960
your research areas we found out here in other places,

565
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:55,360
the more quartz that's in the area, the weirder things happen,

566
00:35:56,159 --> 00:36:00,599
and uh it, you know, without getting in all that,

567
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:04,920
it just seems to be the more of that. Do

568
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,280
you have a lot in your area or over in Oregon?

569
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:14,119
Speaker 10: I do, and in my particular area is called Quartzville.

570
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,519
Speaker 9: Actually called Quartzville. Actually that's actually perfect. You couldn't ask

571
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:24,039
for that. No, anyway, you can't make it up kind

572
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:24,320
of thing.

573
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,679
Speaker 10: No, you can't make it up. And that's one of

574
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,079
the things that attracted me to it because I work

575
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:33,000
with energy anyways. I'm a raking master and I crystal

576
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:36,880
crystal energy and stuff. So you know, I was like, okay,

577
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,239
this means something. It's full of quartz, and it's full

578
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,239
of gold and pyrite and every other kind of mineral

579
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,679
you can think of. Plus it has two huge reservoirs,

580
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,800
you know, and water is obviously a conduit for energy. Right,

581
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,519
So that's why I think the first the last. When

582
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:03,639
I started having my sightings, the first two sightings that

583
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,360
I had were just out of this world, and I

584
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,719
just didn't even want to talk about it because I

585
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,679
was like, this is not happening. It's so strange and weird,

586
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,119
and you know, like it almost made me feel like

587
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:20,760
I was going crazy. So I remember I said one

588
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,920
day out loud, I said, you know what I've been

589
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,639
through all of this, I deserve a sighting where it's

590
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,239
like tangible, like I can touch it if I want to, Like,

591
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:35,039
you know, I deserve this. You need to give this

592
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:38,360
to me. And not a few days later, I had

593
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:42,199
my main sighting that was just it was real, you

594
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,800
know what I mean.

595
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: Can you tell us a little bit about that, about

596
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:50,800
your first sighting, because I know, even if you've seen

597
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,400
a few, it's so rare, it's still message with you.

598
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,840
It's still like you can't believe what you're looking at.

599
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,679
How did that go?

600
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 10: So you're talking about my third siting, the one that

601
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:10,480
was really pivotal. Yes, yeah, okay. So I was up

602
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:14,039
at my research site. It's like at four thousand feet

603
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,199
it's up in the mountains, and I was up at

604
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,480
the research site. It was after we had had a

605
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,519
town hall meeting. I have them once a month, and

606
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:27,280
I had one of my research partners in his fiance

607
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,800
were here from Bend, and Bend is about one hundred

608
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,760
miles away from here, and we were all get rid

609
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,920
of camp that night up at the research site, and

610
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,400
I could feel there was no energy. It was dead,

611
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:42,599
you know what I mean, Like I just knew they

612
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:45,840
weren't there. They weren't gonna be there. They were gone,

613
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,440
you know. So I looked at my research partner Eric,

614
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:53,079
and I said, I'm gonna go home and sleep in

615
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,519
my own bed tonight if I don't have to be

616
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:59,079
out here, you know, I'd much rather be at home.

617
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,639
I'll grab a coffee in the morning and I'll come

618
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:05,199
back at six o'clock. So he's like, okay. So him

619
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,159
and his fiance stayed there, and I jumped in the

620
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:12,440
car and something, this is really weird, and I'm still

621
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,880
trying to wrap my head around it. I don't typically

622
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,840
like drive poorly on the trails, right, I'm very very

623
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,559
particular about safety, right. And so it was ten o'clock

624
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,760
at night, it was dark. I jumped in my car

625
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:33,039
and man, I floored it, and I tried to see

626
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:36,320
how quick I could get down the mountain. Typically it

627
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,639
takes me about fourteen minutes that night, it took me

628
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,840
seven and a half minutes to get down to the

629
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,639
bottom of the hill.

630
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 9: You were pulling like a duke's of hazard out of.

631
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: There, really totally right straight.

632
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, It's just like I had an urge, you know,

633
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:55,239
I just wanted it was fun. I wanted to see

634
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,199
what would happen. I knew like that trail in particular,

635
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,519
no one is ever on it, especially at ten o'clock

636
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:04,519
at night, you know what I mean. So I felt

637
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:07,559
safe enough, and so I got down to the bottom.

638
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:09,599
I was so proud of myself. I was like, Wow,

639
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:12,159
that was really cool, you know. So I get out

640
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:14,599
on the main road, which is Quartzville Road. I got

641
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,280
out on the main road, and I'm driving along and

642
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,599
I get to this point to where I'm like, right

643
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,639
coming around a corner to where this really popular campsite is.

644
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:27,840
And the campsite is actually on a peninsula in the reservoir,

645
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,760
so and you can only get into it one way,

646
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,440
and it's right there. So I come around the curve

647
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:39,400
and right in front of me, I see two sets

648
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:42,440
of red what looked like to me they were like

649
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:47,039
bicycle reflectors. So there were two of them on each side.

650
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:51,000
Two over here behind this tree, kind of about five

651
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:53,840
or six feet up the side of the tree. And

652
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,159
then there was two over here, and they were real

653
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,639
low to the ground, like if they were eyes, the

654
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,199
chin of whatever it was would be sitting on the

655
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,480
side of the road. So at first I'm thinking their

656
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:11,199
bicycle reflectors, and then I realized that they weren't. And

657
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,320
I'm cutting. I'm creeping real close. I turn off my headlights,

658
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,519
I leave my fog lights on the bottom on, and

659
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:23,519
then I stopped the car and I slowly start creeping

660
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:27,159
up like three miles an hour, just creeping up on them.

661
00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:29,519
Try it, just studying. I'm trying to figure out because

662
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,960
I've driven this road a hundred times, maybe a thousand times,

663
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:37,280
and I knew that this was never here before, you know.

664
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:41,960
So I'm getting closer and I'm thinking, are they owls?

665
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,280
Are they like does somebody have steampunk goggles on? Like?

666
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,400
What is this? You know? So I get closer and closer,

667
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,280
and I start to realize their eyes and they're like

668
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,480
sheep like eggs, and they're about this far apart, and

669
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:04,960
I was like, holy cow, But they were emitting light, right,

670
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,199
they were glowing, but they weren't. It wasn't like a

671
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,960
laser flashlight or anything like that, and you could just

672
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:19,639
see their eyes on the inside barely, and I was like, oh,

673
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,880
oh my god.

674
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: You know.

675
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:26,679
Speaker 10: So I get closer and closer, and as I'm getting closer,

676
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,920
I'm starting to kind of make out a silhouette, and

677
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,239
I'm starting to get this body language, especially with the

678
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,199
one that was behind the tree. So the one that

679
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,480
was behind the tree, she would look I say she

680
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,119
because she I just felt like she had a really

681
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,679
feminine energy by the way that she was working so gracefully.

682
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:48,679
And she'd look at me, and then she'd look at

683
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:52,199
the one across the road, and then she'd look behind

684
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,760
her like she was looking, you know, like maybe she

685
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,719
had some little ones or something behind her. You know.

686
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:03,360
She kept doing that, and I look over at the

687
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,599
one to the left of me, and he's like, I

688
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:11,079
can see him now. He's like this on the side

689
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:14,519
of the road, and I both of my windows were down,

690
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,599
so I pulled up and I got almost in between them.

691
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,440
This one over here, I couldn't see anymore behind the

692
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,280
tree because she was so tall. She was above my car,

693
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,400
you know, so the roof of my car was blocking

694
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,000
her out. But the one over here, he locked eyes

695
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,960
with me, and he did not take him off. The

696
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,800
minute he locked eyes with me, I was stuck in

697
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,840
his sight. And it was right when my window because

698
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,519
my window was open. It was right when I got

699
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,119
to that point to where he could see me through

700
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:51,559
my open window. So my hair is starting to stand up.

701
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,039
Speaker 9: Now, I got chili bumps.

702
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 10: For you, I'm getting. I can feel the goose bumps

703
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,199
on my head. So I'm you know, I'm like, I'm

704
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:04,159
trying to have a good experience. I mean, this is

705
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:08,199
what I'm here for. Right, I asked for this. I

706
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,840
had previously, just a few days earlier, I had said

707
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,599
I want this. So I'm taking it all in and

708
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:18,840
I'm spending as much time as I possibly can just

709
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,360
looking at them. Not once did I ever think about

710
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,599
taking out my phone. Yeah, not one time. It just

711
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,719
it slit my mind. So I'm looking at him and

712
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,400
as I'm I'm going past him, it's real dark, but

713
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,519
I still have my fog lights on. As I'm going past,

714
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,079
I can see his back. He's hunched over and I

715
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:45,639
could see his back right behind him. He got He's huge,

716
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,199
he's so wide, his shoulders are just huge, and the

717
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,880
hair on his back was almost like kind of hollow like,

718
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,360
and it did this weird thing. It kind of rippled

719
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,960
and it glowed and it kind of like sparkled a

720
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,119
little bit. Like it was just it was the weirdest thing.

721
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:11,800
And I've I've never watched the movie, but every time

722
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,760
I explained this to people, they always compare it to Predator.

723
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,880
I have I should watch at least watch that part,

724
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,800
and I still have it, but they that's what they owe.

725
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,119
That kind of sounds like the Predator, right, So, but

726
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:27,840
it was kind of iridescent. It just did this. It

727
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,159
just kind of rippled, you know, it glowed, it sparkled

728
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:34,239
a little bit, and I kind of I got the

729
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,119
feeling that from him that you know, Okay, it's cool,

730
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,519
we've had our moment. Just go ahead and go let

731
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:45,639
us continue what we were doing. Obviously, they were crossing

732
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:49,079
the road from one side to the other, right because

733
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:51,280
ones on one side and ones on the other side.

734
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,880
So I went through them. I looked in my rear

735
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,800
view mirror, couldn't see them. So I just went home

736
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,079
and I thought about it all the way home. And

737
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:01,679
I got home and I went to bed and I

738
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,719
woke up the next morning. I came out and I

739
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,840
grabbed my coffee, came out to the spot, and I

740
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,840
realized it was daylight by then, that there was a

741
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,480
ditch there where he was at. There's like a four

742
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,159
four and a half foot deep ditch. And he must

743
00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:22,400
have been massive, because I could just see him in

744
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,480
my mind crouching in that ditch and bending over the

745
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:29,559
road with his chin sitting on the side of the road,

746
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,559
you know what I mean. So everything made sense. I'd

747
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:36,960
looked over on the other side of the road and

748
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,880
there's like a two foot deep pit, like a what

749
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,519
do you want to kind of like a ditch, like

750
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:46,639
a little gully or something there where it's real soft.

751
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:49,719
So that would have made her if she's five or

752
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,559
six feet up the side of the tree, that would

753
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:56,159
have made her five six, seven or eight feet tall easily,

754
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,639
you know. And then looking at him, he looked bigger

755
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:03,000
than her or he just their silhouettes were different, Like

756
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:07,840
he looked massive. So I went through. I went back

757
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,079
up to the camp site that morning. I made it

758
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:12,880
at six o'clock in the morning, and I told Eric

759
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,159
I got up there. Eric's making coffee and I said

760
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,920
I saw something last night, and he's like, oh, really,

761
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,840
what was it? And I told him and he's like hmm,

762
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,760
and I said, yeah, huh so it r That was

763
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,360
all we talked about for like a week. We didn't

764
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,480
talk about it again for a week because I felt

765
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,679
like it took that long to process.

766
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:40,559
Speaker 9: Like you were describing the the shimmering effect that it

767
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:42,880
was doing with the hair on its back and stuff.

768
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:45,320
A lot of people, you say, were giving trying to

769
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,280
compare it to the Predator effect. For me, what I

770
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,719
was envisioning in my head because you're such a good

771
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,599
storyteller to describing the details of it, it reminds me

772
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:58,280
of something from like like a like a fantasy movie

773
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,280
or something like a kid's movie or something, you know,

774
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,920
the magic tingles and it has all the sparkles and

775
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,719
the shimmer effect comes over it everything.

776
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 10: So that's why I you know, I've made it. I

777
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,280
made it such a point like when I go out

778
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,880
there and I set my intentions that I'm a pretty

779
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,599
jumpy person, you know, I get kind of nervous. Sometimes

780
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:22,599
I got a lot of energy, you know, And I

781
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:26,159
always tell him, if you're gonna like interact with me,

782
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,960
or if you're gonna have a moment with me, just

783
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,559
don't scare me, you know, just be gentle about it.

784
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:36,559
Don't be in you know, right right, don't be mean

785
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:40,199
about it, right yeah, don't just be nice to me,

786
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,719
because I'm just here to hang out with you.

787
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,639
Speaker 3: I've got a question. So was the moon bright that night?

788
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,199
Speaker 10: I don't remember.

789
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: I do not remember the reason. I ask Greg, my buddy.

790
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:57,719
He's about iron half from here, and he's got you know,

791
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:03,000
we call them boogers down here, and he had something

792
00:49:03,039 --> 00:49:05,159
tried to open his door, and they come around. He's

793
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:07,559
got a cabin we call the man caves. It backs

794
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:12,039
up to the National Forest and they frequent that area.

795
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,320
They've been on this roof and all we found tracks

796
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,079
and all kinds of stuff. So, but he said something

797
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:21,400
tried to open his door about about two o'clock in one

798
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,239
the morning, and he was sitting in a recliner and

799
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,760
I went down there and I found a hair and

800
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,800
it I've never seen anything like it. Doug has it now.

801
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:34,599
I don't know, you know, if he's got a chance

802
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:37,519
to look at it yet. But the first it was

803
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:41,400
about three inches long, and the first part of it

804
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:46,400
was coal black. The last two inches was like fiber optic,

805
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:52,199
no color clear. And so there's there's two things I

806
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,119
want to say. I started researching, you know, everybody whose

807
00:49:57,159 --> 00:50:00,239
chat GPT or whatever, and I just put what would

808
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,800
I didn't say bigfoot, What advantages would an animal have

809
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:09,119
with hair like that? I described it, and it drew

810
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:11,320
it out just I said, yes, that's that's where it is.

811
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:15,079
What what advantages would an animal have that would have

812
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:19,000
hair like this? And it said that it would be

813
00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:22,960
hard to take pictures of in low light conditions. Uh,

814
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:25,519
it would blend in it would it would kind of

815
00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:28,719
hide its silhouette better. And then ambient like like a

816
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,239
porch light or moonlight, you would be able to see. Now,

817
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,039
another thing Douve just told on a show a few

818
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:39,960
weeks a couple two or three weeks ago. Uh he

819
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:42,000
had I don't think it ever told us before, but

820
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:44,559
they were going over the PG film and it had

821
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:48,320
it on a huge, like uh theater screen and had

822
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,360
several people in there, and it was blown up so big.

823
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,800
She I think as she turns around, the hairs on

824
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:03,519
her back stand up, and there was a non believer

825
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:06,360
in the room like, oh my god, this thing's real.

826
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,320
And they went back and and watched it again and

827
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,360
they said, you could clearly see those hairs. So I'm

828
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,880
hearing what you're saying, and it's reminded me of those

829
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,119
two things, like the hair if it is a sasquat's

830
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:25,559
hair that we found, which is a good possibility. Yes,

831
00:51:26,519 --> 00:51:30,280
I've never seen anything like that. I've searched the internet

832
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,639
as much as I can. I can't find anything any

833
00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:38,679
hair that's made like that. And along with the description

834
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,280
and what that would do, that would make you know,

835
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,840
I'm sitting here thinking as you're talking, I'm like, oh

836
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:50,880
my god, oh my god. If those hairs are laid

837
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:56,000
down and they raise up, then any kind of ambient light,

838
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,719
it could look like that, exactly like you've described. So

839
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:02,800
that's why I like talking to people like because you

840
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,920
didn't know that, you know, I knew had found this

841
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:09,800
and whatever. So man, that's that's amazing.

842
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 9: Reminds me of like a cat or something like that.

843
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,880
Whenever they're like, you're scratching their back or something, the

844
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,679
ripples on their body will do that ripple. That's what

845
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,440
I was picturing. So I don't know if that's exactly

846
00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:25,039
what you saw or if it was just a if

847
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:27,119
it was a physical ripple effect, or if it was

848
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:28,199
more of the I hate to.

849
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 10: I don't know.

850
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:30,639
Speaker 3: I don't know.

851
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,039
Speaker 10: Wah like I couldn't. I couldn't. I don't understand it.

852
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:36,960
I still don't understand it. You know.

853
00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 9: When I did fantastic detail, Yeah, when I did my

854
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,400
research on it, I noticed somebody in the chat said

855
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,800
something about a polar bear.

856
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what That's the closest thing I could find

857
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,079
to maybe even you know, like maybe they have the

858
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:58,920
same kind of ability that a polar bear would have

859
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,320
because that's like hollow or whatever. And yeah, they're skin.

860
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 3: And flack so reflect they're surroundings. Right. Yeah, let's say

861
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,760
you put you put something like that, let's say bigfoot.

862
00:53:11,199 --> 00:53:14,159
Yeah it has hair like that, and you put it

863
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,360
in an all green or all it's going to reflect

864
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,880
that light and blend in or.

865
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 9: Like you were driving through there at night, so it

866
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,000
was obviously super dark, so it was going to be

867
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:25,320
picking up a lot of light.

868
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 10: Yeah, but.

869
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 9: Physical being would be dark to see as well.

870
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 10: Right, And the minute my fog lights hit it is

871
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,320
when it did that. Remember my fog lights are and

872
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,519
my fog lights are really dim. I mean, you do

873
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:45,119
almost have no light at all with those fog lights

874
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:47,920
on there, those little round ones on the bottom, you know,

875
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:51,800
so it's barely But the minute I lined up with them,

876
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,559
it was just like it took all that light from

877
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:57,159
my fog lights and just did whatever it did.

878
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 3: You know, there's something else in the with the account

879
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,320
you just told. So if I can find things in nature,

880
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,679
you know, i'd say this all the time, then I

881
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,880
leave that on the table. Right for bigfoot. We don't

882
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:17,119
know hardly anything, just what we experience and what we see.

883
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:20,119
But I do know, like you can take a herd

884
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:24,079
of deer, or you can take a bunch of turkeys,

885
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,840
there's usually either a hen or a dough that's the lookout, right,

886
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,239
And so it would that wouldn't make sense that if

887
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,679
it was a female and they and it didn't have

888
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,440
to be little ones. That could have been a couple

889
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,800
of others or one more communicating like hey be still,

890
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:49,199
you know it Just that whole scenario sounded right now.

891
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:55,559
And another thing, that red bicycle reflector that you talked about,

892
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,199
I saw that one night like a road I'd been up,

893
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,960
like you said a thousand times, and we call it

894
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,079
the devil's backbone. It's nobody drives it because it's rough,

895
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:09,960
but it's the quickest way to get from where we're going.

896
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,079
I was just driving home. I've been visiting, visiting with

897
00:55:16,159 --> 00:55:20,880
my son, and there's a tall, big tree. The limb

898
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,760
there are limbs, oh man, probably forty or fifty foot

899
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,320
up to the first limb. But I saw, like you said,

900
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,880
I'm like, is that you know the driveway reflectors, the

901
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,840
red and the blue and all that, and it was

902
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,440
it was large, but it was one of them, and

903
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,000
I'm like, what is that? Who put that there? And

904
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,920
then I realized it wasn't It wasn't on the tree.

905
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:48,519
It was just beside the tree. And I turned around

906
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:50,320
at the top of the hill, came back. It was gone.

907
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:53,719
The next day I came back and you know, like

908
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,159
you said, Okay, you try to rule out things. Was

909
00:55:56,199 --> 00:55:56,840
it an owl?

910
00:55:57,079 --> 00:55:57,599
Speaker 10: Was it? This?

911
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: Was it that? There are no limbs, and this thing

912
00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:04,280
had to be, you know, between eight and ten foot tall.

913
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,079
And now the only thing I'm left with is, you

914
00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:13,920
know something looking around the tree? Right? Can so I

915
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:19,039
have Yeah, Now I can't say, hey, it was a

916
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,159
big foot, but I can't tell you what it was either.

917
00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:25,039
So I'm kind of in that spot, you know. So

918
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,239
when I heard people talk about I've told that before.

919
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:33,400
But it's so it's so cool when other people have

920
00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:37,639
experienced things similar. And I didn't mean to take over

921
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:40,639
and everything. It's just I get excited when when I

922
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:46,760
hear something that I've experienced before. But Amanda saw one

923
00:56:47,679 --> 00:56:50,639
one time. She turned around. If you know, I'm butchering this,

924
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,280
but it was it was laying down.

925
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:56,039
Speaker 9: That's why I was on pins and needles on you're

926
00:56:56,079 --> 00:57:00,840
talking about it. It was actually pro like forever. I

927
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,880
called it the bear skin rug creature, and that's why

928
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,960
I usually when I'm retelling my encounter story because that's

929
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,039
exactly how it was laying. It was laying prone on

930
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:12,079
his belly, arms out, chin up, what was touching the ground.

931
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:14,320
But it had its mouth open and the eyes were

932
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:19,280
like a blackish soups, deep black red like no irises

933
00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:23,119
or not white to the eyes or anything. I don't

934
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:25,400
know what it was, and I attributed to the Sasquatch

935
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,280
now as an adults, but it was it was very terrifying.

936
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:33,079
Speaker 10: Wow, what did you do when you saw it? Would

937
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:35,880
you do? Were you driving or why I was.

938
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 9: I was a teenager. I was at home with my

939
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,039
my brothers and my siblings and the neighbor kids and everything.

940
00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:44,079
Were just being country kids, playing in the woods at

941
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:46,760
the edge of the driveway and I was at the

942
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,719
back of the pack and I just hollered at me.

943
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,800
I could hear something rustling in the leaves behind me.

944
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:55,320
I turned it a look and I see this thing

945
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,840
and I'm like, what the heck am I looking at

946
00:57:57,239 --> 00:57:59,079
you know, I'm trying to process this. Okay, this is

947
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:01,000
on a man. It's not obviously not a deer, which

948
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,000
is what I thought was running up on us. It's

949
00:58:03,039 --> 00:58:07,480
not a bear. And the other kids holler at me like, hey, Amanda,

950
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:08,840
come on, So you know, I turned to look at

951
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,920
them and just I look back and in that split second,

952
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,199
it's it's gone. It just disappeared that quick. So it

953
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,840
was the most bizarre thing. And I'm you talk about

954
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,440
you know, your riki.

955
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 7: You know.

956
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 9: So I've always been very sensitive to a lot of

957
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:30,519
spirituality and energies and things like that. Throughout my life.

958
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:34,079
I've you know, had all kinds of encounters with ghosts

959
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:39,079
and dangel stores together, angels and demons and all this

960
00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:42,360
stuff throughout my life, but because of my family and

961
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:44,400
true to myself, I still look at it through a

962
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,559
Christian lens. So at that time I just kind of

963
00:58:48,599 --> 00:58:50,159
filed it in the back of my mind with all

964
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:53,360
these other weird, weirdo things I seen as like, what really,

965
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:56,360
maybe it was just a weird apparition that I saw you.

966
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,760
Now I know that sasquatch, cryptids, and other things they're

967
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,639
to me, they're all in that same category as well.

968
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,039
So now as an adult, I attribute to that that

969
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:09,800
was most likely it was a sasquatch sneaking up on us,

970
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,000
trying to trying to watch us.

971
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michelle, when that started, did tell how did you feel? You?

972
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:24,280
Because there's been times when I've seen seen, you know,

973
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:32,000
bigfoot whatever, where I'm noticing every detail I can, but

974
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:35,440
I'm not thinking like myself either. But I don't know

975
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,920
if it's if it so mind twisting or whatever. And

976
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,880
you would think you would be ready for it after

977
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,079
you see two or three of them, but you never are.

978
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,039
What what did What was your feelings?

979
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: Uh?

980
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,039
Speaker 3: Did as you were going through that? I know you started,

981
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:54,719
like we do, ruling things out first. You know, do

982
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,000
you remember how you felt that that moment. Was it

983
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:59,880
something odd or different?

984
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:05,159
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, absolutely not. It was. I it was like,

985
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,400
instantly I went into research mode. I The first thing

986
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,760
I did was I I dimmed my lights because whatever

987
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,159
it was, I didn't want to blind it, right, So

988
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,679
that was just instinctual. I looked behind me to make

989
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:24,719
sure my daughter wasn't with me, you know, and I

990
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,599
obviously I knew she wasn't with me, but for some reason,

991
01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:30,480
I just felt compelled to just make sure that she

992
01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:34,559
wasn't in the backseat. And then I stopped. I stopped

993
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:38,559
while I'm stopping my car, and I instantly went into

994
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:42,400
research mode, you know, like I'm in I'm inquisitive anyway,

995
01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:45,159
I'm in aquarius, so I want to know why all

996
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:50,199
the time, right, yeah, you get it. So I'm always

997
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:56,159
constantly in, you know, in research mode. And that's just

998
01:00:56,239 --> 01:00:59,119
kind of how I followed through. The only thing different

999
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,840
was that something just blocked me from wanting to get

1000
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:05,519
a picture.

1001
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 9: Like I've heard that. I've heard that from other witnesses

1002
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,199
as well.

1003
01:01:10,679 --> 01:01:13,599
Speaker 10: I you know, I felt I was so you know

1004
01:01:13,639 --> 01:01:19,800
what I did feel. I felt so grateful at that

1005
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,920
moment that I was having that experience and I think

1006
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:28,599
that feeling was so overwhelming that it made me forget

1007
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:31,119
about taking a picture. Like I was afraid if I

1008
01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:33,719
took my eyes off from it, it would disappear, because

1009
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,480
you hear that all the time. If you take your

1010
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,599
eyes right, yep, you take your eyes off from it,

1011
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:41,159
it's going to go away and you're not going to

1012
01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:44,639
see it. I wanted to keep my eyes on it

1013
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:46,960
as long as I possibly could.

1014
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,079
Speaker 3: That's a great point. I saw a I think it

1015
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:55,559
was a pregnant female one morning a couple of years back.

1016
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,599
I was working. I won't get into the story, but

1017
01:01:59,679 --> 01:02:02,360
I had about a five second window. I was driving,

1018
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:05,119
and the vehicle I was driving, I sat up high

1019
01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:11,000
in it with large windows, and I was talking to

1020
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:13,320
a lady that was carrying her to a doctor's appointment.

1021
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:17,000
And I noticed. The first thing I noticed was it

1022
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:20,280
all black, had a little gray here, gray here, and

1023
01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:23,079
gray on the belly. And the first thing I thought

1024
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:25,559
was like, and I thought it was a black hoodie.

1025
01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:30,559
And I see this and then I'm thinking, no way,

1026
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:33,679
But you're right. I knew I had a limited window,

1027
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:36,840
so I tried to focus on what I could to

1028
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,639
get details in that small window. Because I couldn't turn

1029
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:43,639
around and come back. I think I think our brain

1030
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:44,239
takes over.

1031
01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:45,199
Speaker 10: Uh.

1032
01:02:45,559 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 3: You sound a lot like me. Uh. I didn't take

1033
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,039
my eyes off over because I didn't. I knew I

1034
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:58,719
didn't have long right, So the details that I got

1035
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:03,159
helped me later. I wasn't sure how big she was

1036
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,039
until a couple of weeks later I was going the

1037
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:09,880
same road and I saw this normal sized man walking

1038
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,079
beside the guardrail and she was like forty yards on

1039
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:14,920
the other side of the guardrail. So when I saw

1040
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:17,559
him and the guardrail, it gave me a little perspective.

1041
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:21,159
I thought, oh, she was big. So but you know,

1042
01:03:21,239 --> 01:03:24,760
when we say it twist your mind up. Sometimes you

1043
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,920
focus on what you can focus on, so you can.

1044
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:32,719
You know, it's so amazing to And I kind of

1045
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,480
felt I felt guilty because I didn't turn around, but

1046
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,519
I would have got fired. I kind of like, man,

1047
01:03:41,199 --> 01:03:46,519
you should have turned around. But I think you know,

1048
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:52,719
now you've been in this, you've been researching. Maybe the

1049
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,760
next time it'll be a little better. But I don't

1050
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,639
know if it gets better, Michelle, I don't know.

1051
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,159
Speaker 10: I know, you know what I mean.

1052
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,079
Speaker 2: I know.

1053
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 3: It's but you do what you can and if you

1054
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,079
look down to grab a phone, that would have used

1055
01:04:08,119 --> 01:04:12,079
up a precious eight seconds, right, and you wouldn't have

1056
01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:14,880
seen the shimmer, and then we wouldn't have had this

1057
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,039
conversation to kind of maybe put it together. So I

1058
01:04:18,039 --> 01:04:20,599
think Laurie missed.

1059
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 9: Some of those small details with that looking away for

1060
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:24,840
that micro second.

1061
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Laurie, lads and chat and I can't see chat, y'all.

1062
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,559
I've got it. I'm sorry. But you know, they saw

1063
01:04:34,599 --> 01:04:37,800
some orbs in my tent at the LBL after we

1064
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,800
left and went to the cabin and there was like

1065
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,199
eight people saw them and she was like and went

1066
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,079
in out, started outside, went inside and she's she said,

1067
01:04:46,159 --> 01:04:48,800
you know, I'm sorry. I should have took a picture

1068
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,679
and said, no, Lord, you did the right thing. You

1069
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,559
let the other seven people know that it was there

1070
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,920
and they saw it too, and y'all have the same story.

1071
01:04:57,159 --> 01:04:58,480
That's better than a picture to me.

1072
01:04:59,239 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 10: So yeah, I feel like I was just extremely grateful

1073
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,559
that I got to have that experience, because if you

1074
01:05:07,639 --> 01:05:11,760
think it like people like Peter Burne right when his

1075
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,639
whole life researching sasquatch never had a sighting.

1076
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 9: I that brings my heart.

1077
01:05:19,239 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 10: I know what a shame, right, So for me to

1078
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:29,760
have three in one summer and interactions, I'm incredibly blessed,

1079
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,360
you know, like what really are That's amazing. Now I

1080
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,280
go through this cycle of you know, like, what's so

1081
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,039
special about me? Why me?

1082
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 3: You know, I think the same thing all the time.

1083
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,079
Speaker 10: I think it has to do with me having my

1084
01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:49,840
dreams when I was a kid. I think it's a calling.

1085
01:05:50,119 --> 01:05:52,320
I really do. I feel like it's a calling.

1086
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 9: Well, I was actually really I'm really glad you brought

1087
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,760
that back up because I was actually wanted to shift

1088
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,679
and bring the eventually bring our converse station back to

1089
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,519
you to your dreams as a child. As you were

1090
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:07,719
having those dreams as young as you were, was you

1091
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,880
familiar with the concept of bigfoot sasquatch or anything like that,

1092
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,239
and at to did what was your mindset and thought

1093
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,159
process on that at such a young age, What do

1094
01:06:19,239 --> 01:06:20,000
you think they were?

1095
01:06:20,719 --> 01:06:23,159
Speaker 10: Well, when I was that young, I thought it was

1096
01:06:23,199 --> 01:06:25,840
a boogeyman. I thought, you know, it was a monster,

1097
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,920
and I did until I was nineteen. I mean, as

1098
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,599
I got older in my teenage years, of course, you know,

1099
01:06:33,679 --> 01:06:36,440
I found out what bigfoot was and what it was about.

1100
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,239
But then by then it had already made such an

1101
01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:42,159
impression on me that it, you know, it terrified me

1102
01:06:42,719 --> 01:06:45,920
that I was like, oh my god, Bigfoot's going to

1103
01:06:46,039 --> 01:06:49,800
kill me, you know, like what is this all about?

1104
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:52,159
And I got to the point to where, when I

1105
01:06:52,239 --> 01:06:55,400
was nineteen, I was so stressed out about it that

1106
01:06:55,599 --> 01:06:59,119
I came downstairs one night one morning after I'd had

1107
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:01,880
a dream, and I was in tears. I was crying,

1108
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,480
which happened often, you know, when I have them. I

1109
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:07,960
told my mom, I said, I just can't hand I

1110
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:11,679
can't handle this anymore. It's stressing me out. So she

1111
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,000
called my aunt, and my aunt's she's an energy healer too.

1112
01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:17,320
She does reiki and stuff, and she's got a lot

1113
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,360
of friends, and she took me to one of her

1114
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,920
psychic friends, and her friend said, the next time you

1115
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,960
have a dream, tell him, tell him that he's scaring

1116
01:07:28,039 --> 01:07:31,760
you and you would like him to stop. And so

1117
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:36,159
I did, and my dreams changed because it was reoccurring.

1118
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:38,320
It was the same dream. Every time he would he

1119
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,119
would just follow me, kind of follow me, and it

1120
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,719
terrified me. So my dream changed and when it changed,

1121
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,719
it it changed in a way to where he was

1122
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,440
no longer threatening, but he was still there. So instead

1123
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,960
of him coming in the house and following me out

1124
01:07:54,039 --> 01:07:56,880
and following me across the field, he just stayed in

1125
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,320
the tree line behind a tree and he just peeked

1126
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,119
at me and each watched me. And that's the same

1127
01:08:03,199 --> 01:08:06,239
dream I've been having ever since I was nineteen, But it.

1128
01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 9: Wasn't always the same individual. Yeah, do you believe like

1129
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,000
they always looked the same with me.

1130
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's the same guy. And I actually saw him.

1131
01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:18,600
That was my second sighting that I had up there.

1132
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,680
I saw him. It looked just like him, so cool.

1133
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:29,560
On my way home, I said, who are you? And

1134
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,800
just instantly it was like somebody punched me right in

1135
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,760
the brain and said, I'm the one from your dreams.

1136
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,359
I didn't hear it. It wasn't odd, it wasn't audio,

1137
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,039
but it was just like, yeah, it was like you

1138
01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:45,000
should know who I am, right, Yeah, like you should

1139
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:45,399
know me.

1140
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michelle, I'm gonna tell you like I tell everybody else.

1141
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,920
If you'd have told me this ten years ago, Like

1142
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:58,359
what but now I haven't told this publicly in the

1143
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:03,159
past three or four weeks. I've always had vivid dreams, uh,

1144
01:09:03,199 --> 01:09:06,600
in color and all that, But I've been having four

1145
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:12,399
K flashes right when I'm in that halfway asleep, halfway

1146
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,840
not and it's there. They've been so vivid, but there

1147
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,720
only lasts like a split second and it and it changes.

1148
01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:23,960
Well what I'm getting to. I jerked awake one night

1149
01:09:24,039 --> 01:09:26,399
because I saw my dad passed away in twenty two.

1150
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,880
So I saw him so clear that I jerked awake.

1151
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:34,520
But I told Heather, I told Peyton and Gregg, who

1152
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,319
I had a dream about two weeks ago. It's funny,

1153
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:45,000
you should say, bring this up. I was with with

1154
01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:48,600
a family a bigfoot. It was. There were three of them.

1155
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,520
It was a was a male, a female, and a

1156
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:55,760
little one and I asked the larger, the male what

1157
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,119
his name was and he said, I don't know how

1158
01:09:58,119 --> 01:10:01,279
to spell it. He said he talked it talk and

1159
01:10:01,399 --> 01:10:03,920
I and that stuck with me. And what was funny.

1160
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,199
The little one wanted me to pick it up and

1161
01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:10,159
I have a bad help and in my dream I'm like, nah,

1162
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,600
it did it? Then I wake up. I don't know

1163
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:19,279
why I remember that, but I try not to let

1164
01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:21,720
this subject take over. And it kind of scared me

1165
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:27,880
a little bit, Like you're dreaming about it. But I've

1166
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,680
got to the point now, Michelle, where I have buddies.

1167
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,039
We talk about this stuff and we explore you know,

1168
01:10:34,119 --> 01:10:38,640
different you know ideas, and we were talking you know,

1169
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:43,119
last year, and somebody made the comment, well, maybe there's

1170
01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:49,239
certain people that are chosen because when it's time for

1171
01:10:49,359 --> 01:10:52,000
everybody to know that, they're gonna have to have somewhere

1172
01:10:52,039 --> 01:10:55,920
to go to help them with it. So now that's

1173
01:10:56,079 --> 01:11:00,119
just a thought or whatever. But I've noticed there a

1174
01:11:00,119 --> 01:11:02,920
lot of people in chat has had similar experiences and

1175
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,880
you know a lot of us have the same blood

1176
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:16,319
type and it's just weird because it's rare. And then.

1177
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:22,199
Speaker 9: Yes, that word, yes, sorry, I got to getting really excited. Uh, Ashley,

1178
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:26,760
who isn't on the show with us anymore currently, is

1179
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,840
my my best friend, and that we had to actually

1180
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:34,439
teach Roger about synchronicity. Is yeah, it's like that's a

1181
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,840
fancy word of like, oh honey, that's a that's a

1182
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,399
good word because it's.

1183
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:42,359
Speaker 10: The only word I can think of to describe exactly

1184
01:11:42,399 --> 01:11:43,439
what you're saying.

1185
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:50,039
Speaker 9: M exactly and how that it's just exactly. It describes

1186
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:55,760
how things connect are synchronous. This is the word synchronicity.

1187
01:11:56,279 --> 01:11:59,720
You know, it's it's definitely something you run across the

1188
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,279
more you're into this subject matter, or any kind of

1189
01:12:03,239 --> 01:12:04,479
lesque subject matter.

1190
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,079
Speaker 10: So sorry, go.

1191
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 3: Ahead, No, I I got some questions. I'm gonna get

1192
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,720
into this since since you, uh, you know you you're

1193
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,319
around the quartz and all I tell you something happened

1194
01:12:20,319 --> 01:12:22,840
to us. Uh. We were at a spot in south

1195
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,399
in Talladega National Forest. It was after right after midnight,

1196
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,520
pitch dark, and I'd seen the thing on TikTok where

1197
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,359
you could take and make cold fire with quartz, you know,

1198
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,560
rubbing it together, and so I was showing the guys

1199
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,359
and I did that, and then just a few minutes

1200
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:44,000
later we started seeing red orbs in the trees and

1201
01:12:44,079 --> 01:12:46,920
moving real erratic or whatever. And then we caught an

1202
01:12:47,039 --> 01:12:53,239
orb on you know, on thermal And have you have

1203
01:12:53,319 --> 01:12:56,159
you run into energies like that out in the out

1204
01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:59,319
in the forest at night or anything? And could you

1205
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:02,159
tell us a little bit about that, because I know

1206
01:13:02,279 --> 01:13:05,800
absolutely nothing, but I've seen too many of them now

1207
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,680
to ignore them, you know, what can you tell us

1208
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,039
about that? I'm interested?

1209
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's really it's interesting because so the town that

1210
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,800
I live in Sweet Home. It's got like a population

1211
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,239
ten thousand. It's probably been here for one hundred years.

1212
01:13:22,359 --> 01:13:25,079
It's just an old logging town and it's got a

1213
01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:28,239
lot of you know, a lot of generations of family,

1214
01:13:28,279 --> 01:13:31,199
you know, people who have lived here. And there's this

1215
01:13:31,399 --> 01:13:38,479
long running, you know, story about the orbs over Sweet Home.

1216
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:45,159
So this is something that everybody sees and when they

1217
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:48,600
see it, they post it on the community page on Facebook.

1218
01:13:49,319 --> 01:13:51,760
So it's it's cool to see all these people are

1219
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,199
like taking pictures like, oh, so saw the orbs again tonight.

1220
01:13:56,039 --> 01:14:00,319
I've experienced it many, many times, and so as my

1221
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:05,960
research partners. One time I saw it's like a blue

1222
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:10,399
like a light blue orb that's kind of irridescent and

1223
01:14:10,399 --> 01:14:13,720
it pulsates. I saw one that was the size of

1224
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,319
like a VW bug or something. It was like a

1225
01:14:16,359 --> 01:14:19,399
small car. Yeah, on this on the side of the

1226
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,840
mountain where there was no road, you know what I mean,

1227
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:28,000
there's no power, you know, structures or whatever. So and

1228
01:14:28,039 --> 01:14:32,039
then but we also there's a ridge down there where

1229
01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:35,239
I'm shining all the time for eye glowing stuff. And

1230
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,000
half the reason why I'm there is because that's where

1231
01:14:38,039 --> 01:14:40,840
I see all the orbs, and it's right next to

1232
01:14:41,119 --> 01:14:46,079
one of the reservoirs and a large piece of quartz,

1233
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,720
an area where there should be a lot of quartz,

1234
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:55,199
and I've I have a lot of really weird experiences

1235
01:14:55,319 --> 01:14:58,479
right there. One night, that's where the the rock came

1236
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,560
off the cliff and hit the top of my car.

1237
01:15:01,319 --> 01:15:03,880
And it didn't just roll down the side of the cliff.

1238
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,880
It was tossed. You had to toss it across the

1239
01:15:07,039 --> 01:15:10,520
road for it to hit my car. So one night

1240
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,520
we were there and I was with my research partner,

1241
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:18,319
Eric and another guy, Tim, and we were shining the

1242
01:15:18,359 --> 01:15:20,800
ridge for eye shine, and we were seeing eye shine

1243
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,880
all over the place. So we're getting real, you know,

1244
01:15:25,159 --> 01:15:27,680
like wow, what's going on here? And we're seeing little

1245
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:32,880
flashes flickers of light and stuff and orbs. And I'm

1246
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,119
looking one way and Eric's looking up at the ridge

1247
01:15:35,159 --> 01:15:37,359
and he goes, oh my god, Michelle, look And I

1248
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,079
looked up and he's got his flashlight shined up there,

1249
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:45,560
and I saw something. I couldn't tell you exactly what

1250
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,960
it was, but I saw something and I saw something

1251
01:15:48,079 --> 01:15:52,000
move and Eric said it was a sasquatch. It was

1252
01:15:52,079 --> 01:15:56,199
squatting down. It stood up, it turned around and it

1253
01:15:56,279 --> 01:15:59,079
walked away, and I was like, oh my god. And

1254
01:15:59,119 --> 01:16:02,760
that was his first sighting. He's ever had first sighting, right,

1255
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:07,680
So he's he's super excited. I'm excited. We're all excited.

1256
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,720
But Eric is really exciting because he just saw a sasquatch.

1257
01:16:11,279 --> 01:16:13,439
So him and Tim decide that they're going to walk

1258
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,399
down the road a little bit and they're going to

1259
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,359
go around the curve to see if there's a path

1260
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,000
that walks up that that ridge, behind that ridge, so

1261
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,359
they could get up there because they wanted to follow it,

1262
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:30,680
you know. So they and it's pitch dark, it's black. No,

1263
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,239
there was no moon that night, I remember very specifically,

1264
01:16:34,279 --> 01:16:36,239
because you couldn't even put your hand in front of

1265
01:16:36,279 --> 01:16:40,000
your face and you know, you wouldn't see it. And

1266
01:16:40,119 --> 01:16:44,680
my flashlight had died. So Eric and Tim go walking

1267
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,119
down the road and I'm like, hey, where are you

1268
01:16:46,199 --> 01:16:48,720
guys going, And they're like, oh, we're just going to

1269
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,720
see if there's a trail that goes up there. I

1270
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,960
want to, you know, we want to follow it. And

1271
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,479
I'm like, don't leave me here alone by myself. They

1272
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:56,640
do this all the time.

1273
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 9: They leave me alone in.

1274
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,520
Speaker 10: The dark, Jason Kenzie did this to me recently too,

1275
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:07,600
when we were filming. So anyways, they go down and

1276
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,319
they go around that curve, and the minute I saw

1277
01:17:11,399 --> 01:17:15,520
those flashlights disappear and it was pitch dark, I heard

1278
01:17:16,039 --> 01:17:21,439
boom boom, boom boom, right twenty feet behind me. So

1279
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:26,159
I'm like, I screamed, I said Eric. I jumped in

1280
01:17:26,199 --> 01:17:28,359
the car because it startled me. I'm in the dark.

1281
01:17:28,399 --> 01:17:31,680
I'm by myself. I jumped in the car. I slammed

1282
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,119
my door. I forget how to turn my car on.

1283
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,880
I can't even it's a push to start, you know.

1284
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:40,359
I forgot to put my foot on the brake to

1285
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,279
start it. I'm going, eh, you know, trying to get

1286
01:17:43,279 --> 01:17:46,199
my car started so I can roll up my windows.

1287
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,640
And so here comes Eric and Tim and they're kind of,

1288
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,000
you know, walking fast. I guess they're not running. They're

1289
01:17:53,039 --> 01:17:55,880
walking fast down the road. So I'm yelling and I says,

1290
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,079
right behind me, it's right behind the car, like twenty

1291
01:17:58,119 --> 01:18:02,000
feet behind the car. And they walk past my car

1292
01:18:02,079 --> 01:18:04,399
and I get out and I walk back there with them,

1293
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,199
and you couldn't see anything even with the flashlights. You

1294
01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:11,239
couldn't really because it goes down about four or five feet,

1295
01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:14,000
it goes out onto a ledge, and then it goes

1296
01:18:14,119 --> 01:18:17,560
down again and out onto another ledge and then the beach.

1297
01:18:18,399 --> 01:18:22,279
So Tim walks up the hill. He's up on top

1298
01:18:22,279 --> 01:18:24,920
of the hill and he can hear stuff down on

1299
01:18:25,039 --> 01:18:28,359
the beach area, you know, walking around or making noise

1300
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:32,520
or something, but that's it. We couldn't see anything. So

1301
01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:35,760
later on, about maybe about twenty minutes or a half

1302
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,960
an hour later, we decided we were going to pack

1303
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,960
it up and go to another site. So the next day,

1304
01:18:41,039 --> 01:18:42,680
I can't remember if it was the next day or

1305
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,880
two days later. I took one of my other friends

1306
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,439
out there, who's real physically fit, you know, he's like

1307
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,039
an athlete, and I said, can you climb down this

1308
01:18:51,159 --> 01:18:53,880
hill and just kind of look around and see what

1309
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,479
it looks like? And he like, the minute he gets

1310
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,880
down there, he sees there's four foot prints, there's a

1311
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,039
big area of grass that's all bedded down like something

1312
01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:09,119
was laying on it. And the most interesting part was

1313
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:12,560
that there was a rock like a it looked like

1314
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,359
a bench, but it's a rock, right, and it's about

1315
01:19:16,399 --> 01:19:19,279
maybe three three and a half feet off the ground,

1316
01:19:20,079 --> 01:19:24,720
and it's covered in moss, and in this moss is

1317
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:29,439
this huge print that looks just like a butt print, right,

1318
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,439
it's a huge butt print. So he turned around and

1319
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,159
he is a pretty tall guy. He's got a long torso,

1320
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,439
and he sat down on that and realized that we're

1321
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,000
He could sit there and he could see right over

1322
01:19:44,079 --> 01:19:49,399
the road, directly where my car was parked. So our

1323
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,800
theory now is that we had one up on the

1324
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,600
ridge and we had one down here on the rock

1325
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,000
wait like sitting there watching us, and the one up

1326
01:19:59,039 --> 01:20:02,720
there on the ridge got the attention of Eric and Tim,

1327
01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:06,000
and the one down here waited for them to leave

1328
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,640
and snuck up on me. That was terrifying.

1329
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,039
Speaker 9: That is a very scary.

1330
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,319
Speaker 3: H And when when you when you hear them, you know,

1331
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,479
one or two or three times and you're pretty sure

1332
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,359
you know what they are. That goes into your memory

1333
01:20:24,399 --> 01:20:28,520
bank of sounds. It's amazing you can tell how big

1334
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,520
they are when they take a few steps.

1335
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,239
Speaker 10: Yeah, even that one that was tippy toe. I say

1336
01:20:34,279 --> 01:20:37,119
tippy toe because he sounded like he was just you know,

1337
01:20:37,279 --> 01:20:39,680
kind of trying to be quiet, but you could hear

1338
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,199
that it was heavy. You could hear it was bipedal.

1339
01:20:42,399 --> 01:20:45,560
You could hear that it was exactly what it was doing.

1340
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,880
It was trying not to be heard.

1341
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 3: And so if you it sounds like you found out,

1342
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,239
like a lot of us have, that they're I think

1343
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:58,680
they're more curious than anything. And I can't say why

1344
01:20:59,319 --> 01:21:02,279
I feel like, but there's some things that have happened.

1345
01:21:03,399 --> 01:21:08,159
It's almost like some of them want interaction. Maybe they

1346
01:21:08,199 --> 01:21:10,600
test you a little bit, maybe they feel your energy

1347
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:15,720
or your intentions. And I feel like I've gone from

1348
01:21:16,319 --> 01:21:20,319
one point a now to I'm in a spot where

1349
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:25,439
it doesn't scare me as bad. And now that they know,

1350
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:31,920
we know, mm hmm, it's more more pleasant, more or

1351
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,319
less less scary, you know what I'm saying.

1352
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, maybe even me even more comical.

1353
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,520
Speaker 3: Some well yeah we have, but we had we had

1354
01:21:43,279 --> 01:21:46,840
it was four of us and uh we we I've

1355
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,119
been recording for about three hours. We had a fire

1356
01:21:49,159 --> 01:21:53,239
going and I took my phone and turned it off.

1357
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,680
I took the recorder and turned it off. We're about

1358
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,159
getting ready to put the fire out and leave, and

1359
01:21:58,199 --> 01:21:59,960
we were still sitting there and the fire was gone

1360
01:22:00,039 --> 01:22:02,319
when we were talking, and we had one jump out

1361
01:22:02,319 --> 01:22:05,079
behind us, and it's just oh, it was it was

1362
01:22:05,159 --> 01:22:09,079
unreal and uh one one member jumped out of the

1363
01:22:09,079 --> 01:22:11,439
seat and ran locked the truck, locked her by the truck.

1364
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:16,680
So it's all and it's almost like with electronics. I mean,

1365
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,760
I can't prove it. And I did, you know, I

1366
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,960
read the where our phones take infrared picture ever so

1367
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,039
many seconds to see if we're still engaged and looking

1368
01:22:27,079 --> 01:22:30,560
at the phone. That's the case, then that's like a beacon,

1369
01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:34,720
you know, if they can see infrared. And I threw

1370
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,479
that before I need this. I threw the phone face

1371
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,560
down in the seat in the truck and just a

1372
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,479
few minutes later when that happened, So it's a it's

1373
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:48,319
almost like they're curious. Uh, it can't get scary. I mean,

1374
01:22:48,399 --> 01:22:52,159
I have to admit there's been times where I thought, oh,

1375
01:22:52,279 --> 01:22:54,039
you know, I'm not doing this anymore.

1376
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, but yeah, but.

1377
01:22:58,279 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 3: I think the more you go out there and the

1378
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,680
more you are in an area, if they you know,

1379
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:08,359
I'm repeating myself, but if they know your intentions, it

1380
01:23:08,399 --> 01:23:09,720
can get better, you know.

1381
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 10: So it does, it gets better, it gets easier. I'm

1382
01:23:14,039 --> 01:23:17,600
not nearly as afraid anymore. Obviously. I spent the night

1383
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,960
in the habitat. I've never done that. I felt comfortable

1384
01:23:22,079 --> 01:23:26,000
enough that, you know, I felt like they know me now,

1385
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,800
you know, Like I blast my music when I go

1386
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,399
in there, I honk my horn. I'm like, I'm here,

1387
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,159
you know. So I leave them gifts all the time,

1388
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,760
you know, so yeah, they know me.

1389
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,119
Speaker 9: What kind of gifts do you leave?

1390
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 10: Oh? Most of the time, it's like quartz and stuff,

1391
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:49,960
like I'll leave I collect crystals, obviously, so I'll find

1392
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,359
a really you know, pretty one that they've probably never

1393
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,640
seen before, you know, and I'll leave it. I leave

1394
01:23:57,399 --> 01:23:59,720
like trinkets that I leave for the crows, Like I

1395
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,800
leave sparkly little keys and stuff like that. I leave

1396
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,640
the same little blood. Yeah, yeah, exactly, I'll leave the

1397
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,159
same thing for them because I think, you know, I

1398
01:24:10,199 --> 01:24:12,560
think they probably think kind of like a crow, like,

1399
01:24:13,039 --> 01:24:15,359
you know, Oh, that's sparkly and shiny, and I like it.

1400
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,119
Most of the time they take It's funny, they take

1401
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:22,319
the crystals. If I leave like a little toy or something,

1402
01:24:22,359 --> 01:24:27,119
they'll leave it there. They when I take them apples.

1403
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:30,319
I took apples and pumpkins, and they took the apples

1404
01:24:30,359 --> 01:24:34,640
but not the pumpkins, and I left. This will sound

1405
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,920
really immature, but it was cute. I drew a picture

1406
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,840
of me and a sasquatch together, you know, and I

1407
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,680
put me in my glasses, you know, my glass, my

1408
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,520
sunglasses and my blue dress, you know, because I always

1409
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:51,159
wear blue when I go out there. And they took it.

1410
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,680
I left it in a like a plastic like a

1411
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,359
you know, the freezer bags, the zip black bags, and

1412
01:24:58,399 --> 01:25:02,520
it was gone. It's gone, like some somebody something had

1413
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,520
to take it. There were no remnants of it anywhere,

1414
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,880
like anything, nothing tored up, you know.

1415
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,359
Speaker 3: So when I first, when I first, when I first

1416
01:25:12,359 --> 01:25:15,720
started you talking about leaving gifts, I talked to, you know,

1417
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,640
some Native American buddies and they're they're like, I said,

1418
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,119
what should I do? Well, at the very least, you know,

1419
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:28,720
maybe take some tobacco. Yes, I do out of respect

1420
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,640
and just kind of in your mind said, you know,

1421
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,479
this is for you, thank you for sharing the land,

1422
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,800
blah blah blah. And I started doing that. And I

1423
01:25:36,279 --> 01:25:38,159
don't know if it's all in my head, but once

1424
01:25:38,199 --> 01:25:43,880
I started doing stuff like that, it it started getting better, yeah,

1425
01:25:44,319 --> 01:25:49,039
more calm. So now I don't know, I can't prove it,

1426
01:25:49,199 --> 01:25:51,880
but I feel like I left I left a ten

1427
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:56,800
pound bag apples hid on a a burrow, on a

1428
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,119
tree that happened to be right right on the ground.

1429
01:25:59,199 --> 01:26:02,079
It was about two and a half foot tall. Well,

1430
01:26:02,279 --> 01:26:06,359
I put it on there, left it snowed here, iked

1431
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,640
and we couldn't get out, you know, for about a week.

1432
01:26:09,159 --> 01:26:13,159
I went back and that that whole bag was gone.

1433
01:26:14,079 --> 01:26:19,479
So yeah, some like you said, somebody or something. I

1434
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,439
don't know what could have picked it up other than

1435
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:25,199
a human or something with thumbs, right, so right right.

1436
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 10: I noticed some I leave bananas, they won't touch them.

1437
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:34,560
They won't touch bananas. They the apples, they like grapes,

1438
01:26:35,359 --> 01:26:37,039
they don't like pumpkins. I know that.

1439
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 3: Well I left apples and oranges one time, and the

1440
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:47,199
oranges stayed. Then I talked to I think it was

1441
01:26:47,279 --> 01:26:50,720
Randy that actually puts on the cryptocon over in mcmnville.

1442
01:26:51,159 --> 01:26:56,199
We're talking about oranges, and uh, he said, over in

1443
01:26:56,239 --> 01:26:59,079
East Tennis, they won't take the oranges either, And I

1444
01:26:59,119 --> 01:27:01,479
forgot about that conversation. I kind of want to ask

1445
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:07,319
somebody from Florida if they ever have trouble with their oranges, because, uh,

1446
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,920
you know, I don't know, maybe they don't like shit.

1447
01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 10: Maybe I'll ask.

1448
01:27:14,359 --> 01:27:16,399
Speaker 9: I'll ask the David Dix time I see him, because

1449
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,640
he researched in Florida for so long. Yeah, I've never

1450
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,319
I would assume so just because in my mind, like, hey,

1451
01:27:23,359 --> 01:27:28,680
you know, food is foodmportnit eaters. I remember now talking

1452
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,920
to somebody who grew up at a farm in Florida,

1453
01:27:33,039 --> 01:27:37,039
but they raised blueberries and had an interaction with Skunkgate

1454
01:27:37,159 --> 01:27:38,439
down there because of that.

1455
01:27:39,359 --> 01:27:43,079
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've heard. I've heard that they'll eat strawberries and blueberries.

1456
01:27:43,159 --> 01:27:47,279
So I'm guessing that they'll eat what they're familiar with,

1457
01:27:48,079 --> 01:27:52,079
you know, because if we leave bananas, we don't grow

1458
01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:55,880
bananas here, you know. Yeah, so maybe that's why they

1459
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:56,600
don't eat them.

1460
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 3: And I also heard I talked to a man that's

1461
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:04,960
been and he's been doing this. He's out west with you.

1462
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,000
He said, if you leave the fruit, get organic, which

1463
01:28:11,159 --> 01:28:14,039
that makes a little bit of sense. You know, we

1464
01:28:14,399 --> 01:28:18,359
shouldn't be eaten the other either, probably, But it's interesting.

1465
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:22,159
It's like and it's so hard to catch anything on video,

1466
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,479
you know. I just feel like they know. I mean,

1467
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,399
I if I had to do it all over again,

1468
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,479
I would probably just get a regular camera, old camera

1469
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:39,680
film camera and all that because with the electronics. You know,

1470
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,199
I've heard people talk about you know, I heard Doug

1471
01:28:43,239 --> 01:28:45,680
talking about on his show because he's a camera expert,

1472
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,199
and he was like, the reason it's so hard because

1473
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:50,960
you know, Gary got a picture of something at about

1474
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,960
forty yards a few weeks ago, maybe two months now,

1475
01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:56,319
and I saw it move and he took the picture.

1476
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,359
But it's a horrible picture. It's not because of what

1477
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,279
he did at the right time, but Doug was staying

1478
01:29:02,319 --> 01:29:06,000
it because the lens is so small. That's why people.

1479
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:09,159
You know, if you're taking pictures close up with an

1480
01:29:09,319 --> 01:29:13,680
iPhone fifteen, it's incredible, but any distance at all, you know,

1481
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,159
you can take a picture at twenty yards and it

1482
01:29:16,199 --> 01:29:20,039
looks like eighty. So I don't know, maybe maybe we

1483
01:29:20,119 --> 01:29:21,800
need to go back to the old school ways. I've

1484
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,560
heard several people say that, and then again, with the

1485
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,199
way it is in today's world, you know who's going

1486
01:29:29,239 --> 01:29:30,119
to believe it anyway?

1487
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm a guy. AI is so horrible.

1488
01:29:35,279 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 9: I hate.

1489
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:43,399
Speaker 3: I talked to Mary Fabian from Philadelphia, I mean Pennsylvania,

1490
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,399
and we were talking about a couple years ago. We

1491
01:29:47,399 --> 01:29:51,439
were at a camp out or whatever, and she said Roger,

1492
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:55,199
I don't go to get evidence anymore. I've seen I've

1493
01:29:55,239 --> 01:29:58,079
seen them, I had interaction. She's written a book, she said,

1494
01:29:58,079 --> 01:30:00,840
I just go to experience nature and if they want

1495
01:30:01,239 --> 01:30:04,039
to show me something or want to be seen, it's

1496
01:30:04,159 --> 01:30:06,520
she said that if you use all this technology, they know.

1497
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:12,199
So you know, I'm starting to believe it. It's just

1498
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:16,439
it's like you said earlier about the structure. One you know,

1499
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:21,680
maybe accident, but two together means something. How many researchers,

1500
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,359
including you, Michelle, a man that's probably heard this a

1501
01:30:24,399 --> 01:30:29,359
million times, A lot of my friends, the the electronics

1502
01:30:29,359 --> 01:30:34,239
starts acting crazy. Is that that makes me think? You know,

1503
01:30:34,319 --> 01:30:36,560
we talk, we talk about the quartz and the area,

1504
01:30:37,279 --> 01:30:40,960
you know, is the area what draws them to that?

1505
01:30:41,119 --> 01:30:44,840
Is it the energy? Is it? Is it protective for them?

1506
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,279
Does it make them more sensitive?

1507
01:30:46,359 --> 01:30:46,520
Speaker 10: You know?

1508
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:51,239
Speaker 3: Who knows, but I know that that quartz has. When

1509
01:30:51,359 --> 01:30:54,520
we talk to people, That's one thing I ask how

1510
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,720
much courts you have? Almost every time? Oh, we have

1511
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:57,359
a ton of it?

1512
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 10: So yeah, yeah.

1513
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 3: All right, Well we're iron half in. I don't want

1514
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,399
to keep you all night, and maybe we can do

1515
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,800
a part two. And uh, you want to tell about uh,

1516
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,239
what y'all found and what maybe when it's coming out

1517
01:31:13,399 --> 01:31:14,439
with mister Kinzie.

1518
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 10: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, first of all, let me go through

1519
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,119
the list here. So I'm gonna I want to let

1520
01:31:20,159 --> 01:31:23,239
everybody know I'm going to be speaking at Glide Festival,

1521
01:31:23,399 --> 01:31:27,079
the Glide Sasquatch Festival this year, and that's June twentieth

1522
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:34,840
at Sorry, my allergies are really bad right now. That's

1523
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,880
that's in Glide, Oregon. So we're going to be opening

1524
01:31:38,039 --> 01:31:41,279
for I'm going to be opening the day for Ronnie

1525
01:31:41,319 --> 01:31:44,800
LeBlanc and I think Ryan Golmbski is going to be there.

1526
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,880
And then we're doing a mount Ship. We're going to

1527
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,920
Mount Shasta directly after that to do a girl's gun

1528
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,159
squatching trip.

1529
01:31:54,279 --> 01:31:56,560
Speaker 9: Oh wow, that would be really interesting.

1530
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,159
Speaker 10: I can't wait. Oh my god, I'm so excited. So

1531
01:32:00,199 --> 01:32:03,960
then we'll be of course at Sasquatch Summerfest. My friend

1532
01:32:04,039 --> 01:32:06,600
Priscilla puts that on an oakrage every year, and that's

1533
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,560
July eleventh and twelveth or tenth and eleventh. It is tenth,

1534
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:16,720
eleventh and twelfth, it's that weekend. So and then so

1535
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,079
Jason Kenzie was just here and we filmed a whole

1536
01:32:21,159 --> 01:32:27,399
like episode of Searching for Sasquatch, Sweet Home, and he's

1537
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:31,159
gonna edit that. He just like he literally just got home.

1538
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,359
He said it should be out sometime in October. We're

1539
01:32:35,359 --> 01:32:38,279
gonna do a premiere, like a movie premiere at the

1540
01:32:38,319 --> 01:32:43,079
local theater here in suite. We're going to do it

1541
01:32:43,119 --> 01:32:45,239
all up. We're going to do it up Hollywood style.

1542
01:32:45,279 --> 01:32:48,840
It's going to be fun. And then what else do

1543
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:52,279
I have going on? I don't know. That's all I

1544
01:32:52,319 --> 01:32:53,319
can think of right now.

1545
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 3: It's a lot. I mean, but look, look, I'll.

1546
01:32:57,199 --> 01:33:00,279
Speaker 10: Yeah my book. I did write a book too, so

1547
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:01,800
I was actually about to bring that up.

1548
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 9: Somebody posting that in the comments for you earlier.

1549
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: You have a book.

1550
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,399
Speaker 10: Oh nice, thank you Hillary.

1551
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 4: Wow.

1552
01:33:09,039 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, The Dream Guardian Sasquatch and The Path to Awakening.

1553
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,520
It's just about, you know, my first experiences and what

1554
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,560
it meant to me and my dream that's got the

1555
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,239
whole dream in there and everything too.

1556
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:25,319
Speaker 3: Well. I appreciate you sharing with us, and just the

1557
01:33:25,399 --> 01:33:30,000
conversation was totally worth it because of the what your

1558
01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:33,960
experience and some of the things that we've learned. It

1559
01:33:34,119 --> 01:33:36,920
kind of it kind of meshes together and it doesn't

1560
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:41,439
matter if you're in Oregon or or Alabama or whatever. Uh,

1561
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:44,600
some of the similarities are and not just here around

1562
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:49,720
the world. Yeah, it's pretty amazing, and I just hope

1563
01:33:50,359 --> 01:33:55,600
maybe we'll we'll live long enough to see a point

1564
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,720
where somebody finally just admits it and like, look, let's

1565
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,680
let's move on. Let me ask you that this be

1566
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:08,600
the last question. Yeah, if tomorrow that the powers that

1567
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:13,600
be said, they say, Okay, full disclosure. There's bigfoot. There's

1568
01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:16,520
two or three different types in these different areas of

1569
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,319
what we've known about them for a while. We've got

1570
01:34:18,399 --> 01:34:24,479
DNA and all that. Saturday, would you go out into

1571
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:25,159
the woods again?

1572
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:32,039
Speaker 10: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, you know what it's I'm here for it.

1573
01:34:32,079 --> 01:34:35,279
And I truly like what you were saying earlier about

1574
01:34:35,359 --> 01:34:37,640
you know, there's a bigger picture going on and maybe

1575
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,159
we're being prepared for something or why me, why? Why?

1576
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,560
Why am I the one? Right? I'm here for it?

1577
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,520
This is this is my path, this is my journey.

1578
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,880
I finally figured it out. It took fifty years, but

1579
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,359
I finally figured it out. This is why I'm here.

1580
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:54,920
I'm here because of Sasquatch.

1581
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 9: I'm very happy you've got that because there's a lot

1582
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,159
of people who don't. My off included, so that's awesome.

1583
01:35:03,279 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 3: You know, people may not believe this. I'm I grew up.

1584
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,199
I was so shy and I never would have seen

1585
01:35:11,239 --> 01:35:15,079
myself doing this, but I wanted to learn. I wanted

1586
01:35:15,079 --> 01:35:17,279
to talk to people. I didn't know how to do that,

1587
01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:21,960
and something told me, or it pushed me this way.

1588
01:35:22,199 --> 01:35:25,840
And the synchronicities, the things that have happened to make

1589
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:30,920
it possible. You can't help but think there's something in

1590
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,239
the plan, you know, and I may not ever figure

1591
01:35:34,279 --> 01:35:36,920
it out, but I just hope that doing the small

1592
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,760
show like this can help, you know, people that are listening,

1593
01:35:40,079 --> 01:35:43,920
you know, on Spotify and watching on YouTube or whatever.

1594
01:35:44,039 --> 01:35:50,079
And it's almost it went from doing a fun show

1595
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:53,680
learning to like now it feels like a responsibility, not

1596
01:35:53,760 --> 01:36:00,560
in a bad way, no, no, yeah, And it started

1597
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:04,239
for us early. I had recurring nightmares, but it was

1598
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,319
I lived in I was little, I lived in a

1599
01:36:07,319 --> 01:36:11,000
haunted house. I had some weird things happened. At fourteen,

1600
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,399
saw the big Foot for the first time. At seventeen,

1601
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,760
the UFO, and I feel like in my life I've

1602
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,239
been shown things. When I was ready where I wouldn't

1603
01:36:20,279 --> 01:36:24,520
be too scared. Yeah, I can't. I can't explain that,

1604
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:26,680
but I think you know what I'm talking about. It's like,

1605
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,880
now you're ready. Here, here's the next layer of the onions.

1606
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:35,159
So but anyway, thank you so much. It's been fun

1607
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:35,880
to you.

1608
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 10: Yeah so much. I really do.

1609
01:36:39,199 --> 01:36:41,119
Speaker 9: Thank you, Yes, thank you very much. It's been an

1610
01:36:41,119 --> 01:36:43,960
absolute pleasure, and I really want to connect after this.

1611
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 3: This is put her in the female Sasquatch group. I

1612
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:50,760
don't know how I got in there, but yeah.

1613
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 10: Girl, and when I come out there, you could be

1614
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,840
like an honorary member of Girls Gone Squatching.

1615
01:36:56,479 --> 01:37:02,119
Speaker 3: I like it all right, everybody, thank you so much.

1616
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:06,279
We we we we love doing this and y'all make

1617
01:37:06,359 --> 01:37:09,880
it even more fun meeting you guys, and you know

1618
01:37:10,239 --> 01:37:15,399
some of you have become like family, and we appreciate y'all. Amanda,

1619
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:18,720
thank you for everything. And we're going to play Doug's

1620
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:25,000
outro and get this thing ended here. Thank you, Michelle.

1621
01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:29,000
If you stay in touch, I'm on Facebook. We're friends

1622
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:33,159
on Facebook. So thank you very much. Good night, y'all.

1623
01:37:33,239 --> 01:37:50,720
Like Greg, everybody, big love, everybody.

1624
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 7: Down in the times, where the water runs black, where

1625
01:37:55,039 --> 01:37:57,800
the mall sangs low and the night leans.

1626
01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 2: Back the stores.

1627
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:02,279
Speaker 4: Which about a chef that old tall, big feet moving

1628
01:38:02,359 --> 01:38:05,319
where the moon that fault? Some say it be some

1629
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,840
saved ghosts in the trees. Some say it trouble blowing

1630
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,000
in with the breeze. But around here, man, we know

1631
01:38:12,279 --> 01:38:18,640
the call, or we just calling friends the squatching howler, So.

1632
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:23,600
Speaker 11: Lie that fer let the cat tell sack a nuber time.

1633
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 7: Copperheads weaving here Georgia fall ain't on and it ain't

1634
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:31,279
no dog.

1635
01:38:31,199 --> 01:38:34,359
Speaker 11: When a creek gross cold and the shadows get taller.

1636
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:38,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gus, I'm not in the squatching legs.

1637
01:38:38,279 --> 01:38:41,399
Speaker 11: Wa't getting a brave man f But I mind your

1638
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:43,279
staffing and squatching how.

1639
01:39:01,239 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 7: The body tell me stories about the thing in saut

1640
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:08,760
to ten foot high with a timber y'all red eyes

1641
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,479
burning like a summer's coat.

1642
01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 2: Let the trap big enough to swallow your sober.

1643
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,359
Speaker 5: The old folks laugh, saying, don't you fear if grid

1644
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,560
has been living here for hundreds of years, treat them

1645
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,720
with respect. When the moon gets smaller, and they'll let

1646
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,279
you live in squatching.

1647
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:30,359
Speaker 2: Holler sold that fire. He let the swamp drom roll.

1648
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:33,399
You can hear that beach right down in your soul.

1649
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 7: If you hear the grun from the river call it

1650
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:40,600
ain't no boat frout balking the lord, little swamp runner

1651
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:44,479
still and the crickets get salt to y'all lie alone.

1652
01:39:44,159 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: And the spotting the weather brave thing ties in the

1653
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:51,840
fools off, noble lord, keep watching on that spotting holler.

1654
01:40:22,319 --> 01:40:26,159
Some say gods it old pine ridge. Some say he

1655
01:40:26,359 --> 01:40:29,840
walks from bridge to bridge the warm thanks show. When

1656
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:34,159
the night comes down, something big still calls it. Scream

1657
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:40,279
so bank that fo hell. Let the night get deep.

1658
01:40:40,399 --> 01:40:43,359
Let the willows which for other cuts up creeps.

1659
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 7: If you catch us glimpse through the midnight, holler, just

1660
01:40:47,039 --> 01:40:48,800
now your head, don't scream and.

1661
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,079
Speaker 11: Holler the mother wild on spring and the legends getting

1662
01:40:52,199 --> 01:40:55,960
taller at the wherever it runs in swatching Holly, we

1663
01:40:56,119 --> 01:40:59,279
ain't scared, but we show stayed cast us down in

1664
01:40:59,520 --> 01:40:59,880
the dock.

1665
01:41:00,199 --> 01:41:22,239
Speaker 2: That's watch them how m H deeping m