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I'm out here 31 00:01:29,879 --> 00:01:32,719 in Vegas, you know, just going through these conference tournaments. 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,159 We had the WCC the last two nights, some exciting 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,400 action in Gondega for the twelfth time in fourteen years, 34 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:42,519 wins the title, of course, But Santa Clara, the big story. 35 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:45,159 Looks like they will be in the NCAA tournament for 36 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:47,879 the first time since Steve Nash in the early nineties. 37 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:50,159 It was gonna be a big day on Sunday down 38 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:52,680 there at the Levi Center to'll throw a big party 39 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:56,719 for the first at large bid. And I don't know, 40 00:01:56,799 --> 00:01:58,760 I think since the sixties. I got a double check 41 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:00,319 that because I know they only got in as the 42 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:04,640 auto Bid with Steve Nash. So just an amazing experience 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,879 for that program and a program that I've been close. 44 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 5: To for about a decade. 45 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: And now we move on to the Big West tonight 46 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:13,280 for some early action. That'll be good watching a ton 47 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:15,840 of games like you guys today, and then I'll be 48 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,520 at the Mountain West quarterfinals throughout Thursday, which which shapes 49 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:22,719 up to be four really important games because that that 50 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:26,439 tournament figures to steal one of the bids you know, 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,319 available in the bubble picture. 52 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: So, yeah, what's your bubble watch right now? What is 53 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,120 that looking like? You know, the four, eight, six teams 54 00:02:35,159 --> 00:02:37,520 that you're really intrigued by right now with that bubble watch. 55 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:43,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, the bubble watches, it's as a moving it's like 56 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,960 a conveyor belt of warts. You know, you're not on 57 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,639 the bubble unless you have warts, right, So I think 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,879 I think the big thing is first, it's just where 59 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,759 these bids might get taken from. So I'm I'm accounting 60 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,159 for the Mountain West West to get two teams in 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,159 right now, they only have one deserving team in Utah eight. 62 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:02,960 As you guys know, New Mexico might have a path 63 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,759 to a at large if they win twice and maybe 64 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,520 lose to Utah State in the finals. I think any 65 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,120 other scenario with the other seven, I think you know, 66 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:15,919 good enough teams to win it not named Utah State. 67 00:03:16,439 --> 00:03:19,039 That adds up to about a seventy percent likelihood that 68 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,319 will have a bid steal. 69 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: From the league. 70 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 4: So I think it logical to go ahead and project 71 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,159 two bits for the league as this at this point 72 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:29,560 in the exercise, and that that knocks the spot away. 73 00:03:30,199 --> 00:03:32,599 Right now, SMU is holding the last spot. Obviously, they 74 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,360 just lost moments ago to be done with their season. 75 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,039 You know, they're about as bubbly as can be as 76 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,520 a team that I think that the committee can select. 77 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:45,080 You know, they've done just enough, but at the same 78 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,800 time be very easy to remove them from the field. 79 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:51,479 If somebody steps up this week and really kind of 80 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,759 build a better profile, I think they can be they 81 00:03:54,759 --> 00:03:56,879 can be taken over. So we'll see how that plays. 82 00:03:56,599 --> 00:03:57,159 Speaker 5: Out with them. 83 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:58,439 Speaker 2: You know. 84 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,199 Speaker 4: VCUS also in Limbo. You know, they had a really 85 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:03,680 really solid year, but they only got to play five. 86 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 5: Teams in the projected field. 87 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:07,919 Speaker 4: They went zero to five in those five games, and 88 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,400 they've been very very clean. Besides that, they got a 89 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,080 big win at Dayton to close the year, So again, 90 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,879 kind of like SMU, a team you can feel okay 91 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,720 about selecting if you're the committee, especially compared to a 92 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,000 lot of the Power Conference teams with warts. But if 93 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,519 spots go away, or if a team like a Cincinnati, 94 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,240 for example, can beat Arizona tomorrow, it's gonna shake the 95 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,040 whole picture up. And at the Power Conference level you 96 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,480 have chances to do that. You have California. I'm not 97 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:38,639 predicting they're going to do this, but if they were 98 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,560 to beat Florida State today and then they beat Duke 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,519 tomorrow with the Duke's two injuries, that would shake the 100 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,399 world up in the bubble because I think you would 101 00:04:47,439 --> 00:04:49,680 have to probably put California in the field if that happens. 102 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,720 So there's so many things like that can happen, and 103 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:55,120 it's all about how many opportunities you can get early 104 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,759 in the week. And then you have Indiana sitting there, 105 00:04:57,759 --> 00:05:00,720 who I think, you know, most people would have as 106 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:02,879 one of their first teams out or last teams in. 107 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:05,279 That's pretty much where I'm at with the Hoosiers. I 108 00:05:05,319 --> 00:05:07,600 do not think they've done enough, so they need to 109 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,560 beat Northwestern today, and then I know they get a 110 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,879 crack at their arrival the Purdue boiler Makers. If they 111 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:15,560 win today, they play them tomorrow. So those are the 112 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,199 teams I think are the most fascinating. Auburn, of course, 113 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:21,000 is going to get a lot of attention. They're still 114 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,079 playing right now. We'll see how that finishes up. I 115 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:27,240 think they should be out no matter what, for a 116 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,120 lot of good reasons, but I'm also concerned about the 117 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,839 power of the SEC in that committee room. College sports 118 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,600 are different right now than we've ever seen, and we 119 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,560 might see some history made if they really strongly look 120 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,879 at Auburn and try to make a case for them, 121 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,959 but otherwise there's no history says they have no business 122 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:49,040 being selected. Then you have Oklahoma, who I think is 123 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:52,199 even further away, but they're starting to creep up because 124 00:05:52,439 --> 00:05:56,800 they do. They did finish strong, So if you're rooting 125 00:05:56,879 --> 00:06:00,519 for a bubble team, you definitely want Oklahoma to lose 126 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,439 early in this tournament. In the SEC, and that's probably 127 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,279 the main list right now. We know Stanford's probably played 128 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,839 themselves out, Virginia Tech played themselves out. USC just lost, 129 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,199 They're out of the picture. So those are the core 130 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,720 teams that I'm looking at. 131 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: Love that breakdown that only you can give. Roco Miller 132 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,720 here on your UTAI ESPN radio network. Roco, where do 133 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:25,319 you stand with the Big twelve right now? How many 134 00:06:25,319 --> 00:06:27,600 bids do you see coming from this conference? 135 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's been a you know since TCUs 136 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:35,600 really established themselves. Did that finish they had, They're cleanly in. 137 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:37,959 You know, it's kind of kind of crazy because two 138 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,399 weeks ago we looked at TCU. 139 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 5: We didn't know what to do with them. 140 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, they they I think they 141 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:46,120 finished seven and one to close the year. Phenomenal job 142 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,240 by the Frogs, and they're clearly in. They played their 143 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,040 way up to like an eight seed now or maybe 144 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,079 a nine, and so they'll be in, and that gives 145 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,120 the league a solid eight teams. And then again we've 146 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,959 got the wild card situation with Cincinnati that I just explained. 147 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:03,160 So if and I'm not predicting they'll be in Arizona, 148 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:06,079 but if it happens, I think the committee is going 149 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,839 to make a case for them to get in. It's 150 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:09,959 not too many teams in the country can go be 151 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,519 to one seed. Cincinnati's got the wild results too. Because 152 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,720 you know, go into fog Allen Fieldhouse and winning by sixteen. 153 00:07:17,439 --> 00:07:20,040 I know that just as a human it sticks in 154 00:07:20,079 --> 00:07:22,399 your mind. Cincinnati has had a lot of battle bad 155 00:07:22,439 --> 00:07:25,279 on their profile, you know, even with Gigsel James, they 156 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:29,319 were swept by West Virginia. I think there are twelve 157 00:07:29,319 --> 00:07:32,879 and ten right now overall, so they're they even with 158 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,639 giggl James, are still kind of a bubbly type of record, 159 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,959 and that's being a little bit generous. And then of course, 160 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:41,360 if you if you are looking at the full season, 161 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,920 they lost to Eastern Michigan, which is a team that 162 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:46,560 fired their coach and did not even qualify for the 163 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,199 MAC Tournament. So it's one of the ugliest losses you'll 164 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,279 see anywhere. So we'll see what happens. So there's there's 165 00:07:52,279 --> 00:07:55,560 an opportunity for a ninth team. I think Oklahoma State 166 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,279 would have to make a very deep run, and I 167 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,439 don't know if they would get considered at this point 168 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,360 even if they did. So I think it lies with Cincinnati, 169 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:05,519 but the league can count on eight getting in. 170 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: Definitely, Rocko Byu looks to be a six seed. Anything 171 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,399 that could change that in your opinion. 172 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely so. 173 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: By using in a tough spot with the Richie Sanders 174 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:24,920 Saunder situation, right, and the way the committee evaluates means 175 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:28,360 in this situation for good or bad and then unfortunately 176 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,079 for you are you it's it's hopefully nothing, but it 177 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:34,840 could be add because they might just take it. Look 178 00:08:34,879 --> 00:08:37,480 at what the teams looked like since the Saunders injury, 179 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,039 which obviously had a little bit of a drop off, 180 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,799 especially on that road trip to West Virginia and Cincinnati. 181 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:46,039 Nice job by the Krugers to get that Texas Tech 182 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:49,200 home when I thought that was very important, just because 183 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,120 the evaluation could go a lot of different ways, especially 184 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:54,919 if they really look like a different team. So they 185 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,679 at least showed, and of course they showed that first 186 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,200 game when they came out and beat Iowa State. Have 187 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,159 two really good wins without them, but they're both. 188 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,399 Speaker 5: At home now. 189 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: I think today don't want to go down to West 190 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:09,240 Virginia again because I think that would still open the 191 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,120 door for the committee to really pick this team apart, 192 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:15,240 and you know, they could fall. 193 00:09:15,039 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 5: Down to an eight nine game. 194 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: I think if that happens, because they would they would 195 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,679 zero in on the results lately without Saunders, and that 196 00:09:24,919 --> 00:09:30,120 that leaves b Yu exposed I think to be moved down, 197 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,159 and so I think a win today is really important 198 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,159 because it will help hold the line. You know, they've 199 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,840 they've earned that spot. I think as the last six today. 200 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:40,840 I don't see them being higher than a seven if 201 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,399 they lose today. So pretty important game because you have 202 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,039 to think about the chronological order of the voting in 203 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,000 the committee rote room. So voting started today, a lot 204 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:54,360 of voting, and and this part of the bracket will 205 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,600 be sorted out tomorrow. So just getting into a game 206 00:09:57,639 --> 00:10:01,720 tomorrow and still playing will help yu Uh to stay 207 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,799 in the conversation and obviously relieve some of those concerns 208 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,600 about how good they actually are without Saunders. 209 00:10:10,039 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, how how good do you think they are without Saunders? 210 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,200 From your purview? 211 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: But I think honestly the defense has dropped off. They 212 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,519 got to figure they got to figure some things out defensively. 213 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,279 So I'd love to see that in this in this week. 214 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,919 That's my biggest concern. I also think Richie Saunders was 215 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,960 their best force pacer and Uh there's been a lot 216 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,519 of a lot more ice, though I kind of figured 217 00:10:32,519 --> 00:10:35,600 it would be with with Aju, He's touch an elite talent. 218 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,480 He can go get buckets on his own. But you know, 219 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,159 I just I think the BYU offense is less effective 220 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:43,159 without that. 221 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 5: Elite force spacing. 222 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,159 Speaker 4: You're not getting as many clean looks as you wore 223 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,320 with Riggie. So those two things are a little bit 224 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,279 of downgrades for me, just from what I've observed so far. 225 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,759 Speaker 5: But obviously still very talented, very capable team. 226 00:10:57,919 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: And you know, I've noticed with injuries across the country 227 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,840 all this year. All this year, Stanford as a quick example, 228 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,679 they lost Chishimawk Para I think at the end of January, 229 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,960 and their next four games they look terrible, basically played 230 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,200 themselves out of the picture. But Kyle Smith and that 231 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,519 that staff just kept working on the guys they had, 232 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,320 and eventually those new those newly uh those fresh to 233 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:24,440 defined roles uh played out to be. Stanford got pretty 234 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:24,759 good again. 235 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:26,399 Speaker 5: By the end of the year. They beat NC State 236 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,399 and they were clearly better again. 237 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,799 Speaker 4: So by you has that opportunity. They just need to 238 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:33,120 get some more at bats. And that's why I thinks 239 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:36,840 another reason just basketball wise, for them to to get 240 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,000 a win today so they can keep playing together before 241 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,240 it's really the big pressure of the NCAA Tournament. 242 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: Rocco Miller talking some n c double A tournament and 243 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,080 bracketology here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network, brought to 244 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,279 you by Big O Tires in American Fork Roco this 245 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,399 uh uh this tournament. You know, I feel like, you know, 246 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,320 there's certain teams that are trending. Is you know, favorites 247 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,399 to win the national title. They've been favorites for most 248 00:12:04,399 --> 00:12:05,960 of the year. We kind of feel like we know 249 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,799 who our one seeds are. Where do you staying kind 250 00:12:08,879 --> 00:12:11,559 up with your one seed and your favorites to win 251 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,000 the NCAA Tournament this year? 252 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,799 Speaker 4: Well, thanks to yukon Ukon Locke to Marquette on that 253 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,960 final day made everything kind of clear, right, Florida takes 254 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,840 that fourth number one. Duke Michigan and Arizona are just 255 00:12:24,879 --> 00:12:27,799 at a whole different level with their resume and you know, 256 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,679 only having a couple losses each, quite clearly the top three. 257 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,720 I think the committee will didn't have enough reason to 258 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,559 change that order up going into their actual final bracket 259 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,960 this weekend. Arizona has an argument they didn't get to 260 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,000 play either of those two. 261 00:12:44,759 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 5: They have went at Houston. 262 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:48,279 Speaker 4: They have a lot of great wins. They've been awesome 263 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:51,679 in the Big twelve. But because Duke played Michigan and 264 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,919 beat Michigan and it's still Duke, you know, you figure 265 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:57,519 those day one now. One thing, you know, we'll have 266 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,279 to see how Duke plays, at least this first game. 267 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,360 You know, like I said earlier, they'll play Florida State 268 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,399 or California because they got two injuries, and we know 269 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,919 Foster's probably going to miss that at least the first weekend, 270 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,279 maybe even the entire NCAA tournament. Curious to see if 271 00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:16,480 Duke fell in that game. You know, I think you'd 272 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:19,200 probably have to at least move them below Michigan and Arizona. 273 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,879 Despite the head to head, they would still be a 274 00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:23,840 one seat, but it would change up the order. I 275 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,320 think that's really the main thing at stake there Florida, 276 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,759 since they're crushed to the to the picture obviously still 277 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:35,320 not that much margin between them and Yukon. I think 278 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,000 they just probably need to win their first game in 279 00:13:37,039 --> 00:13:40,039 the season tournament and then they'll be fine. And it 280 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,720 looks like they'll play like Missoo or Kentucky. So even 281 00:13:42,759 --> 00:13:44,399 if they lose, they might be okay, because that's not 282 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,840 a bad loss. Those are both tournament teams. 283 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,159 Speaker 5: And then speaking of. 284 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: Florida, I mean, I think that's the team that's. 285 00:13:51,039 --> 00:13:52,879 Speaker 5: The team to be when we get to the tournament. 286 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:55,519 Speaker 4: I mean the way I understand that they've figured all 287 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,840 this stuff out in league play, and they lost. 288 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,919 Speaker 5: A lot of their our key non conference games, but they. 289 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,639 Speaker 4: Didn't lose by much. You know, they lost to Duke 290 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,039 by one, they lost to Arizona in a really good 291 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,399 game on opening night, lost to Yukon by four, and 292 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,519 then they really started switching things up with their with 293 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,879 their guards, you know, Xavion Lee and Boogie flann and 294 00:14:17,879 --> 00:14:21,840 and Urban and all those wing players. Uh, they were 295 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:24,720 they were a little two three point reliant and lately 296 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:28,519 they've just been attacking the paint relentlessly. We we only 297 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:30,639 know they have the best front line in college basketball 298 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:34,600 when it comes to offensive and defensive rebounding. Well, now 299 00:14:34,679 --> 00:14:37,039 what they're doing is they're using their bigs at the 300 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,000 top of the key and uh in the areas where 301 00:14:40,039 --> 00:14:42,360 the guards are driveling to free the guards up for 302 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,600 back cuts. And now you're seeing Zavion League getting wide 303 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,960 open layups in the screen game. And so they're taking 304 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,120 a lot less threes and they're just attacking the rim. 305 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,120 That's seventy two points in the paint against Alabama in 306 00:14:55,159 --> 00:14:58,480 their biggest game lately, and that was not it wasn't 307 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:00,080 just your traditional points in the paint. A lot of 308 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,919 guards were getting layups because of those back cuts. And 309 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,399 now the defense is that in that are trying to 310 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,120 stop this offense don't know what to focus on because 311 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:11,879 they're scoring in a variety of ways and it's very, 312 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,080 very difficult to stop. And then, of course, on the 313 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,679 other side of the coin, they have elite defenders. You know, 314 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:20,480 rubenclu is probably the best defender in the SEC. So 315 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,519 I think that formula gives them a really, really good 316 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,720 chance to repeat as national champs. 317 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: Love that breakdown, Roco Miller here on ESP and the 318 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,759 fan Roco going back to b Yu, what's the ceiling 319 00:15:34,799 --> 00:15:37,679 of this stand if they get hot, if they play well, Like, 320 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,759 how far can they go in the NC DOUAA tournament? 321 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:40,639 What would you project? 322 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: Well, First of all, I think they need to play 323 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,919 teams that just want to play offense and they don't 324 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,720 have like I don't want to vy. You have to 325 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,080 go up against a really good defense. I think I 326 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,600 think that could that could be a problem giving by 327 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,440 You go cold and and just be an ugly, ugly game. 328 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,559 I want to see by You play a team that 329 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,080 wants to get up and down, they can beat them 330 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,919 like ninety five to ninety that type of game. So 331 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,879 if they get that kind of path, of course, they 332 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:11,440 can still get Probably about the Elite eight, I would say, 333 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:16,480 would be anything beyond that would surprise me. But I 334 00:16:16,519 --> 00:16:18,759 think it's all about the matchups. You know, they should 335 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:20,519 run into a brutal matchup in the first game for 336 00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:23,440 all we know. So it's anywhere between the first round 337 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,159 and the Elite eate in my opinion. And even if 338 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,120 they did get to the Sweet sixteen, I think based 339 00:16:28,159 --> 00:16:31,639 on Richie going down and all the concerns right now, 340 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,799 I think I think hopefully the fans and BYU community 341 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:36,320 would still call that a good year. 342 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you project them as far as location 343 00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:44,120 is right now? I was, I was looking at possibilities 344 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,559 with Portland, but then you could also see, you know, 345 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,159 I've heard you know, you could get a matchup with 346 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,159 like maybe Miami, Ohio or you know kind of where 347 00:16:54,159 --> 00:16:57,000 where do you kind of see location wise? In first 348 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,960 round matchup with BYU. 349 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:02,879 Speaker 4: So let's say if YU can hold on to the 350 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:05,559 six spot, that requires a win today. But if they 351 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:08,440 hold on to the sixth spot, it's really nice because 352 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,119 they'd be slotted into Portland in the same pot as 353 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,279 Gonzaga as the number three seed, and the way I 354 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:16,799 have it right now, they play since I have a 355 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:19,279 spot for the Mountain West champion, I have that penciled 356 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:22,039 in as San Diego State, but you could just plug 357 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,480 in any Mountain West champion. They probably get that last 358 00:17:24,519 --> 00:17:27,319 eleven seeds and keep them in the West in Portland, 359 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,519 so it makes a lot of sense. So in my 360 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,839 projection right now, it would be by U versus San 361 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,079 Diego State winner plays Gonzaga, but they've been a seven 362 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,079 seed on other occasions. If they're seven, they're most likely 363 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,279 to go to Buffalo because in Buffalo you have a 364 00:17:42,319 --> 00:17:46,160 Thursday Saturday sight there and that's where Michigan Michigan State's 365 00:17:46,279 --> 00:17:48,839 likely going to be, So that would be with Michigan State, 366 00:17:49,759 --> 00:17:51,440 and then in some of those I think the last 367 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,880 one I had they had BYU was playing Texas A 368 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,319 and M, but it could also be like a Georgia. 369 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,440 It could also be sorry not Georgia. I'm misspeaking there. 370 00:18:01,759 --> 00:18:03,839 It could be a Santa Clara. Santa Clara's gonna be 371 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:07,079 a ten seed, so that could be interesting. So we'll 372 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,960 see how that shakes out. But but yeah, I keep 373 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,000 getting either Portland or Buffalo, and then certainly Oklahoma City 374 00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:16,000 could be in play. But I just don't see Oklahoma 375 00:18:16,079 --> 00:18:19,880 City because Houston is going to be the two seeds 376 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,039 in Oklahoma City, and I know the committee will look 377 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:25,240 to avoid having two teams from the Big twelve in 378 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:27,279 the same pod, but if they don't have any other options, 379 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:29,680 they could still do it. I believe Yu and Houston 380 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,039 only played one time this year, so they are allowed 381 00:18:32,079 --> 00:18:34,079 to do it. So just keep that in the back 382 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:35,920 of your mind as well for Oklahoma City. 383 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Roco, love your content, man, you do fantastic work 384 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,359 for all those that are tuning in right now. Best 385 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,000 way to support you what you do, how you do 386 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:47,559 it for all of our listeners. 387 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I really appreciate that. 388 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 5: Bracket. 389 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,279 Speaker 4: Two dot Orgs, the site I own and operate, we've 390 00:18:53,279 --> 00:18:56,920 got we've got some younger guys getting that experience covering 391 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,960 the NCAA tournament, these conference tournaments. We have two guys 392 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:04,079 out doing the Big East Tournament, so anybody that wants 393 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,559 to support our work. We also do non conference schedule 394 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,000 updates all summer and spring. I know sometimes I come 395 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:11,279 on in the summer with you guys to talk about 396 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,359 updates there. So it's a three hundred and sixty five 397 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,920 day operation obviously for bracketology, you know, every single morning 398 00:19:19,079 --> 00:19:21,960 or afternoon at least I'll be posting updates about the 399 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,240 forecast where you can expect your cougars to go or 400 00:19:25,279 --> 00:19:28,759 if you're a fan of another team, definitely come to 401 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:31,039 the site for that. And then I'm on Field of 402 00:19:31,079 --> 00:19:33,559 sixty eighth throughout the weekend. So we have our show 403 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:37,359 Friday to do our last projection show, Fielding the. 404 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 5: Sixty eighth the name of the show at at three. 405 00:19:39,319 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: O'clock Mountain time, five o'clock Eastern time, and then Jeff 406 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,640 Goodmin and myself will be on the live reaction show 407 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,480 on Sunday. Stuff you want to hear a little something 408 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:53,799 else besides the announcement on CBS, come on to Field 409 00:19:53,799 --> 00:19:55,880 of sixty eight about forty five minutes early. We're going 410 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,160 to start around forty five minutes before the show starts 411 00:19:59,519 --> 00:20:04,519 to our final projection to get your juices flowing and 412 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:07,799 then we'll react to every pick. So you know, I 413 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:10,400 remember last year with the North Carolinda pick. I think 414 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,920 that one kind of went viral. So you never know 415 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,000 what's gonna happen, and it's a it's kind of a 416 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,079 fun experience every year. 417 00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:20,839 Speaker 2: Roco, much love to you man, keep doing great work. 418 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,680 And for all those March Madness fanatics, if you want 419 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,880 to pick the right bracket, the right winners, all you 420 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,680 got to do is go to bracketeer dot org. 421 00:20:29,759 --> 00:20:32,519 Speaker 5: Right, that's right, let's do it. 422 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: Well, go appreciate your Rocko, thanks so much for joining us. 423 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,319 Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you very much. 424 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 5: Appreciate it. 425 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, great segment with Rocomiller bracketeer dot org. Check 426 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,519 it out today. 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Eight oh 438 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,519 one eight five zero nine one zero zero. That's Advanced 439 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:26,119 Windows dot Com. We'll be back. This is Cougar Sports 440 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,279 one to three, nine ninety point three ESPN The Fan. 441 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,759 Speaker 1: This is a one oh three nine ninety eight three 442 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,799 ESPN Sports Center Up games. 443 00:21:34,839 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 6: We're starting today on the hardwood is tenth seeded EYU 444 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:40,240 men's basketball took it to the fifteenth seeded Kansas State 445 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:42,920 Wildcatch yesterday in a one oh five to ninety one 446 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,039 victory in the first round of the Big twelve Tournament. 447 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: Here's just a few stats. 448 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 6: From yesterday's game that are worth mentioning. Ajd bons has 449 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,920 scored forty points to break a Big twelve Tournament record 450 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,039 for most points scored in a game by a freshman. 451 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,400 With those forty points, de Bonsa sits at eight hundred 452 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,319 and six on the season and has moved into third 453 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,960 on the all time BYU single season scoring list, passing 454 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,279 Ames Adean boot grabbed fourteen borg set a career high 455 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:04,960 for the red shirt freshman, and the one hundred and 456 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,079 five point performance from the Cougars broke the record for 457 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,160 most points scored by a team in a Big twelve 458 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,079 tournament game. BAU takes on the seventh seeded West Virginia 459 00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:14,559 Mountaineers at five pm today in the second round. 460 00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: At five o'clock, EA Baseball took home. 461 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:18,319 Speaker 6: A victory for the first time in two weeks as 462 00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:20,599 they throttled Utah Tech nineteen to two. 463 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: Cougers were led. 464 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 6: By Ryder Robertson and Ryker Scow, who both hit two 465 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,599 diggers in the victory. Next up for BYUS the conference 466 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,839 opener at home tomorrow at three o'clock against Cincinnati. UOI 467 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,319 softball also added yesterday's game in the win column as 468 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,240 they scored a season high ten runs in a ten 469 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:36,640 to one victory over Adaldeen Christian. This was the first 470 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,319 home game for the Cougars on the year after they 471 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,359 spent the first twenty two games of the year on 472 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,440 the road. Next up for Gordon Ekin squad is the 473 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,519 Trailblazer Classic this weekend in Saint George. Heading over to 474 00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:48,200 the Links BA freshman golfer key Hey Keena began today 475 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,559 five struts back of first place, but after a career 476 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:52,759 best round where he shot eight hunder, park Kea won 477 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:55,000 the Ari Lamkin Invitation law as he finished with the. 478 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,559 Speaker 2: Lowest fifty four hole score of. 479 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 6: His career at fourteen hunder. A team took third place 480 00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:02,200 overall at seventh team under the pool. Sophomore diver Barty 481 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,960 Yopp was the lone Cooger who made it to the 482 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,200 final yesterday at the NCAA Zony Diving Championships and Flagstaff Arizona. 483 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:10,559 Yap took fifteen place overall in the final round of 484 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:13,279 the platform. Today is the final competition as Yapp will 485 00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:16,079 goin Ashton Sparks in the one meter competition as Brooklyn 486 00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:18,839 Gecerates will compete in platform diving. 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He wants say 508 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,960 a support you guys now give a call, set up 509 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,559 appointment today. It is stopping a little player profile. I 510 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:26,359 want to get to know Jojoe Phillips. Big fan of 511 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,119 Jojo Phillips. He's been a part of the program for 512 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,640 a while. I can't believe it. He's like that. He's 513 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,720 the tenured guy. He's the dude. I believe he's the 514 00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:38,720 most tenured player in that wide receiver room. I believe 515 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:41,160 as a red shirt junior, I may be mistaken out 516 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,319 to pull the roster up, but he's one of the 517 00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:45,599 most tenured guys. Six foot five, two hundred and five 518 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:48,400 pounds out of Lancaster, California and Sierra Canyon High School. 519 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,119 He was a baller basketball player growing up, played some 520 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,000 football as well. Finally converted over to the grid iron 521 00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:59,519 and great potential, great ability. He has shout out to 522 00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:02,880 teen and his wonderful family, his wonderful parents. He's got 523 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,519 four siblings, by the way. He measures in exercise science, 524 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,640 so he likes the human body and human performance. Loves 525 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,759 cars and check this out, Ronald the free man. We 526 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,119 loves to build the legos. Okay, shout out to Jojo 527 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,160 Phillips and the lego maker he's been. He was high 528 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,640 school teams teammates with Arizona offensive lineman Elijah Paine and 529 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,359 wide receiver Malachi Riley. By the way, and he was 530 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,160 also high school teamates with Browny on the Basketball Corps. 531 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,759 So rated as a three star recruit helps here Canyon 532 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:37,279 to calif to the California Southern Section Division two Championship 533 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,160 game in twenty twenty two CIF Championship in twenty post 534 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,519 a five hundred sixty eight receiving yards and five touchdowns 535 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,480 in that same year, and was recruited by Oregon LSU, 536 00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:50,559 Michigan State, Oregon State, Cow Colorado, pitt Utah State in 537 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,599 San Diego State. We're able to catch up with him. 538 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,039 We're able to catch up with Jojo Phillips yesterday and 539 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,559 now let's maybe get into a few of his comments. 540 00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:05,119 And by the way, over his career, he's played in 541 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,119 twenty four games. Now he started eight games. He's got 542 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,160 twenty five receptions, three hundred and seventy seven yard, three touchdowns, 543 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,119 He's got a long of fifty seven that was a 544 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,319 beautiful one just a couple of years ago, and fifteen 545 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,960 point one yards per catch. So pretty pretty good talent 546 00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:25,440 with a lot of potential. Can he extracted this year? 547 00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:28,759 Can fantasy? Can a rod extracted? We'll find out. There's 548 00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:31,319 been a lot of change over at the wife sleep position, Jojo, 549 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,960 with Chase and Parker out, you're stepping into a new 550 00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:37,240 leadership role. Do you feel like you're ready for that 551 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:38,079 next step? 552 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: Yes, I do feel like I'm ready now. I'm going 553 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:45,319 into year four now, which is crazy, you went by 554 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:48,400 really fast. But yeah, I feel like I'm ready now. 555 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,039 Learning a lot from Chase from the years, learning a 556 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:55,559 lot from Darius Keelan, just autodored guys that came through here. 557 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,680 I was here before me, So I feel like I'm 558 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,440 ready for sure? 559 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 2: Are you feeling like Jojo is ready for the limelight, 560 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,839 for the next step, to be the guy? He mentioned 561 00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:12,920 a number of mentors, Chase, right, Darius Keelan, the unks, 562 00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,359 the old heads in the room. Is he ready to 563 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,200 take on the younk, the old head roll and be 564 00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:20,160 the guy Ronald the three man we were. 565 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,599 Speaker 7: He's gonna have to be in a way. 566 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:22,319 Speaker 5: I mean. 567 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 8: They also brought another guy, Kyll of Casper along with 568 00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:27,079 him to maybe help out in a little bit of that. 569 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,079 But yeah, been when a when you were the next 570 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,160 guy up as the veteran guy in the room. People 571 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,799 are looking forward to you. Whether you want it or not. 572 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,400 You're gonna be challenged by this coaching staff. They're gonna 573 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,599 need you. You know, the playbook the best he's in 574 00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:41,400 a little bit for what he's gonna mention about some 575 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:44,039 of the newcomers in the wide receiver room. If people 576 00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:47,359 are looking towards Jojo, right and Ben we talked about 577 00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:51,319 every game a Rod likes to highlight someone. Unfortunately, he 578 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,440 got dinged up in the Stanford game. It was gonna 579 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,640 be his game. You saw where it was, you saw 580 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,680 the first pass, you saw him out there blocking, and 581 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,240 it got derailed. You know, that's what happened. There's attrition 582 00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:03,759 in the game, and it's unfortunate. But him coming back 583 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:05,799 on the Pop Tard's Bowl could have given him a 584 00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,519 lot of momentum that he needed and to build his 585 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:09,559 confidence mainly. 586 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,799 Speaker 7: But yeah, that's the guy. 587 00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 8: I mean, everybody's raved about it on this show, and 588 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,079 everybody's raved about it all over. Is the potential, with 589 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,319 the size, with the height, with the deep thret ability. 590 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,920 You remember two seasons to go, not last year, but 591 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,039 the one before. You know, Jake Retzoff connects to him 592 00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,119 on a deep pass, like that's what they're expecting out 593 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,839 of Jojo. You even saw it in Arizona State game. 594 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,039 Came up short in a couple of plays, but that's 595 00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:34,079 what they've been waiting for the Festisataki, Aaron Rodderick Kline. 596 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,359 They like his skill sets, so yes, Ben, I believe 597 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,279 he is ready after learning from all those guys. 598 00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 7: He's gonna have his growing pains, but I think he 599 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,119 will be able to grow more into this role. 600 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: He's got an opportunity. Can he sees the day? Kenny 601 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,640 Karpe DM, what's the most important thing you learned from 602 00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:55,319 Chase being in that in that that role? Uh? Just 603 00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:56,519 the leadership role. 604 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: I really say Chase is a really good leader. He's 605 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:02,839 just pushing us every day, standing on top of us 606 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,839 and just really setting a good example, a good just 607 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,640 sean like what the standard is in our program and everything. 608 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: I would say Change is a great example, no doubt 609 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,920 about it, on and off the football field, doing the 610 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,000 silent work as well. Number three, You've always struck us 611 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,559 And I've said this, he's kind of a laid back guy. Right. 612 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,559 You're laid back dude, Jojo. Have you had to force 613 00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:28,920 yourself to be a little bit more vocal, even more 614 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,599 proactive in your approach when you're trying to be that 615 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,319 wide receiver? 616 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,119 Speaker 3: One yes, sir, for sure, I'm a quiet guy. 617 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,599 Speaker 2: I don't really say that much. 618 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: But when I'm on the field then, like it's like 619 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,400 I feel it's a different person than me. But like 620 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,319 you just see me walking around like Ron, I'm just quiet, chill, 621 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,240 but out here it brings a different side of me. 622 00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:53,160 I fly this to my safe space and everything. I'm 623 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,200 just comfortable so. 624 00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:59,759 Speaker 2: Doing that work. Jojo Phil is a quiet guy on 625 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:04,000 off the field, but this is being on the football field. 626 00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,599 That's his safe space. That's where he can maybe tap 627 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,039 into that that inner dog of his. And he's gonna 628 00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:12,319 do that dog if he's gonna solidify himself as a 629 00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:13,680 primary target in this offense. 630 00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 4: Uh. 631 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: How is the wide receiver competition, Bruin. It's wide open. 632 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,880 It looks like what are you seeing develop in the 633 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,720 wide receiver room? 634 00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:26,079 Speaker 3: Uh see a lot of things that developing. Uh me Kyler, 635 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,519 Uh Tay Legend is starting to uh like turn some 636 00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:34,559 heads and everything. I really like Legend. Uh just be good. 637 00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:37,039 I'm just happy we come out compete every day. Uh 638 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,759 it's really I wouldn't say no nobody receiving one or anything. 639 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,720 I just like all of us coming out there and 640 00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:44,880 just competing and just being the best we could be. 641 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,599 Every player. 642 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,079 Speaker 2: You gotta get out there. You gotta compete, uh, day in, 643 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:54,759 day out and find you way. He gave a gave 644 00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:57,200 some love to Legend Glasger. We caught up with him 645 00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,519 yesterday too. We'll probably we'll probably get that uh that 646 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,440 interview up and rolling maybe tomorrow. But gave some love 647 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,720 to Kyler Casper, you know, shout out to Kyler Casper 648 00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:14,759 as well, that Oregon transfer Legend. We've seen some good 649 00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:18,279 place from Reggie Frischknet as well. It sounds like you 650 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:21,480 know that the wide receiver room is and maybe the 651 00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:25,200 rotation coming together. What role do you think Legend Glasker 652 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,319 could have Ronald the three man weaver? What do you 653 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:34,839 make of his initial ev ow right, his initial you know, 654 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,839 for reay into this wide receiver competition. 655 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, look, Ben, I think that Legend definitely could push 656 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,480 for time. I think you'll see moments. I'm hoping been 657 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:45,440 with the how talented this group is in the non 658 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,559 convers slate that you see a lot more guys. I'm 659 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:50,079 hoping with how LJ runs that they can just I 660 00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:51,880 don't want to say run the scoreboard up, but take 661 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,640 care of business so other guys can get in. But 662 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,960 I believe Legend could be that fourth option. We know Vessi, 663 00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:59,480 we talked to him every year at the Media Golf Tournament. 664 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:01,519 We have a You've given me the opportunity to talk 665 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,839 to him the last two years, and Festi each time 666 00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:05,759 has told me he goes with the guys that have 667 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,519 been in that room the longest, and obviously he's bringing 668 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,599 Kyler in to fulfill that role. But you'd have to 669 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,559 think of guys who've been there. You have to think 670 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,720 of Jojo obviously. I think he's gonna be in the mix. 671 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,440 Kyler is going to be in the mix, and then 672 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,559 you know, I'm gonna, you know, maybe throw a curveball. 673 00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:20,440 I know a lot of people might not think about it, 674 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,960 but I believe Tiger Bockmeyer also in that mix. They like, 675 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,640 you know, I think the leadership that that Tiger has. 676 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,119 But that's a guy been that you can't uh, you know, 677 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,759 overlook as well, you know, but I think it's honestly, 678 00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:35,480 you know, Legend, I think a crack is that that 679 00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:36,039 fourth guy. 680 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 7: He also mentioned Tanakua. 681 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 8: Taysing that mix up between you know, Jojo, Kyler, Tiger 682 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,640 Tay and I think Legend. I think those five have 683 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,160 a great opportunity to to get a lot of plans 684 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,119 on FESTI doesn't really like to go outside four or 685 00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:50,359 five receivers. 686 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: Getting back to Jojo here, how beneficial is it for 687 00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:59,599 that for the group? Uh to have you know, I 688 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,559 guess it's a true chance to become wide receiver one. 689 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,319 How does that competition that's your play out with Jason 690 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,160 Parker being gone, Uh, it's nice and everything. 691 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: Uh, Like I know, I just have to still put 692 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,319 the work in and everything and still come out every 693 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:18,880 day and show Uh, just work on my craft and 694 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,359 show that like I will be ready and everything. And 695 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,079 also just just getting our other guys up to speeding 696 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,279 and everything too, because we can't do it by ourselves 697 00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:27,799 or anything. 698 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: So got to have that opportunity and seize the day. 699 00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:37,160 Kyler Casper is becoming an intriguing player. He's already been 700 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:42,359 pushed forth as a you know, I guess an interview 701 00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,880 to the general media. I think that's interesting. What's it 702 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,000 been like working with Kyler Casper? Jojo, It's been good. 703 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,240 I really enjoyed Kyler. 704 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,559 Speaker 3: He's really cool. Since he's came in, I feel like 705 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,839 we've been having a great relationship and our relationship is 706 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,240 just being built just every single day and everything. They 707 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,279 just being two big old guys. No outside somebody bigger 708 00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:07,000 than me, which is funny, and but yeah, I think 709 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,559 I'd be gonna be hard. Power for defense is in 710 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:10,440 the fall for sure. 711 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: Both of both of these guys, for how tall, how 712 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,199 big they are, they run extremely, extremely well. I pulled 713 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,199 up NFL Draft Eval's NFL Draft Scout evows of their 714 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,880 forty times and what they do withally do they they 715 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,119 they calculate acceleration. Uh, they calculate miles per hour, how 716 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,719 fast they they get up to in their top end 717 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,320 speed on film, and both of these guys are projected 718 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,840 as low four to five high for four four players. 719 00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:43,320 So uh, they get out of breaks extremely You watch 720 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,679 the highlights so far of spring ball, and both Kyler 721 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,000 and Jojo have serious bend. They have uh I would say, 722 00:34:53,199 --> 00:35:00,199 very stable footwork. You don't see them lose energy through 723 00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:03,280 their brakes. They drive through their breaks, they get out 724 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,400 of their breaks, they come back to the football. They 725 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:11,000 have a really good body control the releases as well. 726 00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:16,360 Kyler's shiftier than I had imagined seeing them. You know, 727 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,760 just get off the line of scrimmage, give a little shimmy, 728 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,360 shake and get to the outside, get to the inside, 729 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,239 put a kind of stacking routes, getting stack in the dB. 730 00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,559 I've been impressed by both of these guys through springball. 731 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:32,199 They've looked really good for how big they are. Extremely 732 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,719 they're they're faster than I think BA fans realize. So, uh, 733 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,800 don't sleep on those guys in their top end speed. 734 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,119 Speaker 8: Now can I can I add a question? I don't 735 00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:43,559 know if you've had a chance to. You pitched it once, 736 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:45,039 but I want you to be able to pitch it again. 737 00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:48,159 You put out an image of just like how big, 738 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,760 like the five wide out. 739 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 7: I think he talked to Brady Papingka. 740 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like an empty set, like you know what I said. 741 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 8: Like Jojo Kyler Walker, Man, that's that's big man. Look, 742 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,199 I mean that's a lot of that's a lot of hype. 743 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,679 It's tough for dbs and linebackers to guard. If you 744 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,760 got two six six guys at well, one six six 745 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,880 guy won sixty five and then a couple of six 746 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,920 four tight ends now and I don't. 747 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,599 Speaker 2: Know how often they're gonna go empty. I think it's 748 00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,119 gonna be really hard to keep. You know, you're gonna 749 00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:17,360 put l J. Martin out there because LJ is also 750 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,280 phenomenal receiving running back. So you can have any number 751 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,519 of the compists. So if you're gonna if you're trying 752 00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:28,119 to have a primary twelve personnel set, it very well 753 00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:35,440 could be LJ. Walker, Roger, and then you have Jojo 754 00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:38,719 Kyler or Reggie Kyler if you're looking for that big body, 755 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,920 big wide receiver group. So, and Reggie's really fast too, 756 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,960 I mean he can he can eclipse twenty two miles 757 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,280 an hour, so legend told me he ran twenty two. 758 00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:51,960 Reggie has also eclipsed twenty two miles an hour, so 759 00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,760 he's a vertical threat too, So watch out for Reggie Frishnet. 760 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,320 So I would love to see it. I love you know, 761 00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:01,480 I love that. I've talked about it a little lot. 762 00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:07,199 During the Cody Hoffman era, Tiaran how Gross Oppo, Mitch Matthews, 763 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,880 there was a lot of great wide receivers that rolled 764 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,960 through by U in the kind of the middle of 765 00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:18,639 the Independence era, the kind of the latter years of 766 00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:22,840 the Bronco Enanhall era. And I believe Robert and I 767 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,519 love getting those big, big bodies, And I think that 768 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:32,039 with that intermediate passing game that Bear Bachmeier is truly 769 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:35,079 elite at. It's nice to have those big bodies out 770 00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:41,119 there to body up smaller weaker defensive backs. Now, Jojo, 771 00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:42,679 what are you trying to accomplish? What are you trying 772 00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:43,760 to work on in springball? 773 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 3: I would say my leadership really just being more vocal 774 00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:53,639 during workouts, practice in our meetings, receiver room and everything. 775 00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:56,519 And also just still perfecting my cuff and everything. 776 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,079 Speaker 2: Got to perfect the craft, no doubt about it. There 777 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,599 are a lot of freshmen in the room you mentioned Legend. 778 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,480 What have you seen from the other freshmen in the 779 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,280 wide receiver room. 780 00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 3: I've seen really good uh getting their plays down. That's 781 00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,000 the biggest thing, I would say, refreshmen coming in just 782 00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:15,679 getting the plays down and just slowing the game down. 783 00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:19,960 And I just see like, like good development from our freshmen. 784 00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: And everything this year. 785 00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:23,159 Speaker 3: I feel like they're picking up on the playbook and 786 00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:26,480 everything fast and uh and everything I fly. It would 787 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,239 be we're gonna be good in the coming years for sure. 788 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,400 At the receiver position. 789 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: I mean too, how many times, Ronnie, we've seen a 790 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,679 talented wide receiver come in and not pick up the 791 00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:37,880 playbook and therefore he does not get PT. I mean 792 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,360 we've seen it. 793 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 7: We've seen it. Although we've seen a lot, no, one 794 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,159 hundred percent, we've seen a year. 795 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,159 Speaker 8: After year guys that Look, I know he got dinged 796 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,800 up a little bit, but I mean he's not in 797 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,039 the wide receiver room anymore. 798 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 7: La Maison Waller is one of them. 799 00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:51,519 Speaker 8: We thought that was a guy, you know, four star 800 00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:54,679 guy right fringe, you know, high level, three star could 801 00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:57,159 come in and make an impact. Then didn't work out 802 00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:00,199 too well. Sometimes that's the case, right Uh. And it's 803 00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:01,920 not just him, it's a multitude of people. There are 804 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,599 a bunch of guys in this room been and just 805 00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:06,360 by nature what the d to injury or the playbook 806 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,960 like you mentioned, that will not play. And that's just 807 00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:11,480 the end of it. So we'll see who emerges. And 808 00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:13,360 I think it's just a state in college football been. 809 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,679 With Nio now playing a factor and with BYU being 810 00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:19,199 able to recruit in the portal and recruit out of 811 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,199 high school, the high and the most impactful players, you're 812 00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:24,000 gonna see a lot of that attrition. They're gonna be like, wait, 813 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,519 he's in the portal, Like, You're gonna see a lot 814 00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:28,280 more of that. So Hopefully fans won't be surprised if 815 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,800 that does occur, because at the end of the day, 816 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,760 that's the name of the game. You gotta best ability 817 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,840 is availability, But then you got to make sure you're 818 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,880 putting in the work. It goes back to remember, you know, 819 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,599 Dion talked about a certain dB won't say his name, 820 00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:42,719 but like he's like, you guys understand, I get film time, 821 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,679 Like I see, what if you're not putting in the work, 822 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,440 A coach is not gonna put you out there. 823 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,639 Speaker 2: Ben gotta gotta have that playbook down, and then you 824 00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:53,800 gotta be willing and capable of actually blocking someone too 825 00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:56,320 in order to get the reps. On the wide receiver 826 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,320 side of things. What have you noticed about Bear's growth 827 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,079 now that he's freshman year's oot, now we're getting into 828 00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:03,320 sophomore season. 829 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: I feel like he's becoming more comfortable, like around the guys, 830 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,679 more vocal and everything. And yeah, I'll just say that 831 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,320 just more comfortable, more vocal and leading the team more. 832 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:25,039 Speaker 2: I would say, just more comfortable, more comfy, more communicative. 833 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,119 That's Bear. He's holding the guys accountable more now, not 834 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,000 just playing, not just leading by example, but leading in 835 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,280 you know, by by word as well, and calling out 836 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,480 what he sees when he sees it. I think that's 837 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,960 important that the next step into leadership role. I think 838 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,519 when you first arrived, it's just like, hey, you got 839 00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:45,159 to prove yourself through action. Now now it's holding others 840 00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:49,519 accountable through vocal coaching. Kalanie mentioned you made a big 841 00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:52,559 play today. What's the connection been like with Bear because 842 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,079 it was a little bit disrupted last year because of injury. 843 00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:02,159 Speaker 3: It's been good. We're getting back a better connection. Just 844 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,159 trying to gel and get things right again. Since I 845 00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:08,039 did miss the remainder of the season. Uh, we're throwing. 846 00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:10,159 We're throwing a lot, like every chance we got during 847 00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:12,800 winter ball. Uh, well, winter workouts and everything and in 848 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,320 now just springboard, just really on and in building our 849 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,519 relationship off the field too, which will make us better 850 00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:19,079 on the field. 851 00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:23,159 Speaker 2: So gotta build that chemistry, you know what you're saying. 852 00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:25,440 For a much about it coming back from the pop 853 00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:28,119 Tars Before the pop Tars Bowl, you had a great game. 854 00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:31,000 How important was that for you after being injured for 855 00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:31,480 so long. 856 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 3: Uh, it helped me for sure gain my confidence back 857 00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:40,119 because I'm not gonna lie like I kind of My 858 00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:43,000 confidence is kind of kind of like going down a 859 00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,599 little bit with me coming out dropping balls and just 860 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:48,079 not playing after a while and everything, and just the 861 00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:50,800 collar bone and just like being scared of contact, not 862 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,760 scared contact a little bit, but just worrying about it. 863 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,760 But the Pop Tar Boyl really helped me a lot 864 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,920 going into this next season and everything. 865 00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: So gotta have that sweat, got to have that confiden 866 00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:03,480 It's hard to have confidence when you're injured. He had 867 00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:06,000 fourteen receptions last year, one hundred and sixty one yards, 868 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,119 and most of that came on the front end of 869 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,920 the season, although he did finish strong with that Georgia 870 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,519 Tech Pop Tarts Bawl. He did have three receptions versus UCF. 871 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,119 He had four receptions versus Georgia Tech, and that Pop 872 00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:23,159 Tarts Bowl a great victory for the coops, no doubt 873 00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:26,079 about it. All Right, guys, let's take a brief time out. 874 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,920 We'll be back though, delving into Camp Kalani Conversation more 875 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,920 BYU Basketball Talk and much more here on your Utah 876 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,920 ESPN Radio network. But that player profile, want to give 877 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,280 a big cougar ar to our sponsor, Advanced Windows. 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