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Speaker 3: Well, I want to get into some college football stats

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before we get into the playbook, and I am gonna

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ask you, do you have a playbook to get BYU

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into the top ten of the college football rankings. That's

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what we really need right now, along with saving money

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on Texas Currently college football playoff rankings. They dropped yesterday

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Ohio State at number one, Indiana at number two, Texas

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A and M number three, Georgia four, Texas Tech five,

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Oregon six, Ole Miss seven Oklahoma. These are the two

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loss teams ahead of BYU. Oklahoma nine and two at

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eight Notre Dame at nine, nine and two, and then

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University of Alabama ninety two at ten, BYU at eleven

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Miami a two loss.

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Speaker 4: Miami team ended up.

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Speaker 3: Jumping the University of Utah because Utah almost almost lost

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to Kansas State, so they get jumped Utah sitting at

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ninety two at number thirteen, Vanderbilt at fourteen, Michigan at fifteen,

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and Texas at sixteen. USC drops after losing to Oregon

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but not very far, Virginia at eighteen, Tennessee at nineteen,

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twenty two, twenty three at is Georgia Tech, the Tulane Wave,

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and Jake Retzlof at twenty four, and then U of

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the college Football playoff rankings, and BYU's at eleven. My

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question for our other guests, that's on the line BYU

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quarterback McKay Hillstad Okay, I want to talk to McKay here. McKay,

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welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us for a

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let's talk about stat segment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course, excited to be on. Appreciate you

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appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed love talking ball with McKay Hillstead. He's been

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on the show a number of times. So McKay BYU's

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at eleven right, And I know you guys try to

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block out the noise of the rankings and just focused

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on the task at hand.

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Speaker 4: How do you guys do that?

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Speaker 3: How would you describe the culture within that locker room?

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Speaker 4: It's all this stuff is going on around you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think in the position that we're.

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Speaker 5: In right now, where we're in control of our own

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destiny and you know, if we want to be where

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we're at the playoff rankings and you know, in the

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Big Fault Championship, what it comes down to is really

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just winning this week's game. So I think it's pretty

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easy to dial in everybody's focus and focus on beating

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UCF and really just going one week at a time,

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because you know, in reality, if we if we were

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about anything, worry about anything else, and you know, we

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might not be where we want to be. So just

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focusing one week at a time is I think is

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really big for our program. That's something that Kiloney preaches

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is just you know, dialing in focusing on the task

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at hand, which is UCS.

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Speaker 3: Love and learning, staying humble, staying hungry, folks, focusing on

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the task at hand, next game, next man up type

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of mentality. How can you guys take care of business

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versus UCF at home?

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Speaker 4: What does the scouting reports say about UCF?

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good job at their They're a good defense. I think that,

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you know, pretty similar to how our defense works, you know,

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running a lot of man and man coverage. I think

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we have a good feel of how to attack that.

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good this week. And I think our game plan is

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Speaker 2: On to.

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Speaker 5: Attack those areas where defenders are not so yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well that breakdown.

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Speaker 3: I know we talk a lot of tax smart wealth

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advisement and tax planning here with our banter wealth. Let's

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talk about stats segment. But if B y U was

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to get another shot at Texas Tech in a in Arlington,

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in a neutral setting, what do you think the game

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plan would be, what would change what happened versus Texas

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Speaker 3: What do you expect to be changed the second go

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around if you guys got that opportunit ready.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a big thing is, you know, you

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good game plan each and every week, so just going

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out there and executing. I think last time we're in

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difficult to sustain drives. But I think that the games

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that we've played past that point have have really helped

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just executing and doing what it's called on each and

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every play. And I think that that's gonna that's gonna

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help us, you know, if we get that opportunity.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, there's a couple of things that like

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at Tech in Lubbick, it seemed like they were maybe uh,

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they they were, they were very disruptive.

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Speaker 3: It seems like b YU went a lot of max

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Tex they have a great defensive front.

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Speaker 3: They spent a lot of money uh on that defensive front.

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have to just kind of trust our offensive line a

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little bit and let let uh bear air it out

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a little bit. Would you say that that's an accurate

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depiction of what happened in Lubbock and what could happen

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in the the second go around if that does occur.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'd say so.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, with the with the d line that

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they have, you wanna do you want to prep and

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Speaker 4: Help with protection.

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Speaker 5: But I think that you know, a shout out to

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our lot I mean, I feel like it just sat

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stats from the week is that there were no sacks

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Speaker 2: And I think we.

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Speaker 5: Have a really good ol Ligne with a bunch of

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skilled players. So I think putting putting trusting those guys

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to lock down their defensive lineman wouldn't wouldn't be you know,

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crazy by any means. I think we got a really

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good line. So getting more people out I think would

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help as well. You know, we go max Pro, you're

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not going to get as many guys out and you're

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gonna struggle with holding down a flat defender things like that.

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Speaker 3: So l Jack wasn't fully healthy either in that h

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in that Tech game he only got ten tots. He

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just got thirty two in this last game. How pivotal

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could ljb if he's fully healthy in Arlington.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think we saw in

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that Cincinnati game. You know that LJ is able to

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completely take over a game, So establishing the run and

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against against tech is obviously going to be important. That

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opens up our play action game and really just opens

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up our whole offense. So having LJ at full speed

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and at full go, we'll be super beneficial for our

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team just because he's such an integral piece to our offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to see what LJ could do in

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the in the second go around being one hundred percent healthy. Look,

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we talk a lot about game planning and playbooks on

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the football field, but Blaine, I want to welcome you

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back in. You guys got a tax smart wealth planning playbook.

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Most people McKay's age, they don't really know what that means.

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Can you explain a little bit about what tax smart

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, especially as we were getting McKay and I were

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talking off the air, we were talking about life off the

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field and how business and strategies like this are probably

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the next best thing when it comes to maintaining that

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certainly strategies that we know and see have to be

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executed on the field and to me, whether it's your

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Speaker 2: See specific outcomes.

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Speaker 1: And so especially as we come down to the end

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and so incorporating a tax and an investment strategy is

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I'm sure McKay if he had an opportunity to know

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what the defense was doing each time, or having access

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to their playbook, it might really help on the offensive side.

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Speaker 4: Playbook you mentioned, McKay.

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Speaker 3: And look over the last five years I've told this

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story before, I've seen you support an aid and just

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engage with the student athletes. Would be why you would

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help them anyway that they can through through investment planning

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and just trying to figure out what their long term

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athletes specifically, and then we'll welcome it McKay back in

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and discuss how maybe your strategies are helping him as

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he navigates this new college football landscape in the NIL world.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I know we can all relate, but especially

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as you start making decisions in the business world, as

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Speaker 3: McKay, why did you reach out to Blade to kind

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think with the way that the

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college football is heading, obviously there's there's some financial compensation

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Speaker 4: So it is a crazy time.

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Speaker 3: It could be overwhelming, right like, because you're you're trying

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to focus on your craft. You're trying to get bigger, faster, stronger,

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this new found uh, these new found resources, and you're like, Okay,

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now sitting in my bank account, what the heck am

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to be welcoming in the UCF Knights to Provo, Utah,

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and it's a big one for the Coups. A win

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will push them into the limelight of the Big twelve

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championship game in Arlington against the Texas most likely Texas

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Speaker 4: And UCF's been playing pretty good football.

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Speaker 3: They've had their ups and downs this season, but they

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are talented and I think they are well coached and

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Welcome to the voice of the UCF Nights. We got

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Mark Daniels on the line. Mark, how you living.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Thank you guys.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I appreciate you joining us today and letting us

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get to know the foe through your eyes, your voice.

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Happy Holidays and happy Thanksgiving as well.

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Speaker 4: We got to be grateful this time of the year.

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Speaker 3: We got football and basketball is coming around the corner

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Speaker 2: It's a busy time, it is.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know, it's always fun the holidays, you know,

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you see it put themselves in a position to have

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something to play for this week. A big challenge obviously,

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have come out to BYU and challenge the Cougars, trying

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Speaker 2: So big cask ahead, but an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: How would you describe the culture right now within the

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Speaker 4: In right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you says in a better position than

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Speaker 6: You know, we got it into our final game against Utah,

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the team was four and seven, didn't have any opportunity

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Speaker 2: For a bowl game.

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Speaker 6: A lot of questions whether Gus Melzam was going to

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be back, and I just think it was a bad vibe,

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and you see have played that way in its final game.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a much different vibe now.

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Speaker 6: Scott Frost is back at UCF, and that's going I think,

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you know, great for the program. I think Scott understands

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the transition that he's trying to go through and to

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build a roster that can compete consistently at a level

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that UCF once And I think this group of players

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lot of challenges, but I think their mindset remains positive.

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I think they're excited for the opportunity go out and play,

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like I said, a game that needs something for them.

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Speaker 2: So I think the teams you know, obviously would.

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a great opportunity this week.

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Speaker 3: What's the identity of this UCF football team. You mentioned

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a couple of wins that maybe got away from you.

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point lost to Kansas State at Kansas State tough place

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a nice victory over Oklahoma State, who's trying to rebuild

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their program as well, coming off you know, a firing

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Speaker 4: But what's the identity here?

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the Kansas and Houston games, or two games that gave

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field goal. We throw in the end zone and if

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he throws it when he's supposed to throw it to touchdown,

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UCF wins the game. But he waited a second by

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to help and passion accepted. So those are two games

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still being built for Scott Frauds. When Scott came here

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in twenty sixteen, he inherited a winless football team whose

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talent was better than winless. They went six and seven

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before the undefeated season, and I think they're still trying

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to build a base. You know, Scott understands it's a

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Speaker 2: And it is in the American.

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the five wins maybe is an ideally what you want,

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an adjustment and like I said, to have an opportunity

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Speaker 2: I think it's kept the team focused. But where the.

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twelve months and in twenty four months, I think it'll

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Speaker 3: Why was Gus Maulzon not the guy to lead this

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Speaker 6: You know, Gus is a good man, He's a good coach.

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It just didn't work out. Sometimes things don't work. I

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00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,920
think Gust came here and I think he thought that

479
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maybe his system was kind of.

480
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Speaker 2: A plug and play.

481
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Speaker 6: And I think for any program, I think it matters

482
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that BYU you've got to make sure you've got the

483
00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:53,960
right person that understands your program, the identity of the fans,

484
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:57,759
the expectation, and I think Gus had a hard time

485
00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:00,599
with that. I think, you know, Gus came from Auburn

486
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:02,160
where things are different than the SEC.

487
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:04,039
Speaker 2: Resources are somewhat unlimited.

488
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,799
Speaker 6: I think at UCF there are some advantages that you've

489
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:09,680
got to lean into that maybe yeah, it.

490
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Speaker 2: Didn't lean into as much.

491
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Speaker 6: And then I think, like a lot of coaches went

492
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,839
through the last couple of years. You can live with

493
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,519
a portal, you can die with the portal. And UCF

494
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:22,279
missed on a number of key guys to the portal.

495
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They missed a quarterback for combination of just guys that

496
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,440
didn't pan out injuries, they missed on linemen, and you know,

497
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,000
I think for Gus it just became a situation.

498
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: And look, it's the reality. Guys, if you've got to

499
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,720
go back to ask the.

500
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Speaker 6: Same people for more money to buy players in the

501
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:40,200
last two years they gave you money and you didn't

502
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,880
get results, it's hard to get that money.

503
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 2: So I think Gus felt that maybe it was time

504
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:44,799
to move on.

505
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Speaker 6: For him, I think Scott understands UCU a little bit more,

506
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,839
even though it's been eight years since he was here.

507
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,839
He understands that, you know, the advantages you see have

508
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,799
has is his location. It's recruiting a base, the youth

509
00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:00,920
of the university, a younger alumni base. We need to

510
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,440
do things differently to raise money. We can do things

511
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:06,799
differently because our history and traditions are different. I think

512
00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:08,799
Scott is a better understanding of that. I think he's

513
00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:13,000
better where maybe he is in his career. And because

514
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,039
I think he's got a better chance to succeed. I

515
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:17,240
don't know if it's guaranteed to work at the level

516
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,119
that it did before, but I think knowing UCF and

517
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,799
how you got to play a little bit of moneyball

518
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,319
at UCF, you've got to rely on high school relations

519
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,400
and you've got to still salvage a recruiting class at

520
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:28,920
a high school.

521
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Speaker 2: You can't live and die with the portal.

522
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,519
Speaker 6: I think Gus was leaning too much on that, where

523
00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:34,440
I think Scott realizes you got to have a blend

524
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:34,799
of both.

525
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's an intriguing prospect to bring Scott Frost

526
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,559
back right with with his pedigree, his resume, what happened

527
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:50,319
at Nebraska, what happened prior to Nebraska, it seems like

528
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:55,119
he's the better culture fit at UCF. Gus Malsan is

529
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,200
a fantastic offense of mine that he always has been,

530
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,480
and you know, he's had his ups and down, no doubt,

531
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,680
as a as a as a football coach, as a coordinator.

532
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,640
But it seems like Scott is the right guy for

533
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,400
the job moving forward, and you can see it trending

534
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,160
in the right direction.

535
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 4: They're on the.

536
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: Precipice of being Bowl eligible and they're coming into Prova

537
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,400
motivated right now to knock off the Koks. Cooks have

538
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,400
a have a target on their back. You see, f

539
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,559
can play spoiler here.

540
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

541
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,599
Speaker 6: Look, I think UCF has great respect for by you

542
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,759
know what they built the last couple of years, and

543
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,759
it's a big challenge. You know, this roster is decinated

544
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:36,319
my injuries. This is not a healthy roster. So we're

545
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:39,640
coming one hand behind our back to this game. We

546
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:41,839
got two quarterbacks left the roster and the guy that's

547
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:44,079
gonna start on Saturday has been injured for the last

548
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,400
month and is limpin uh.

549
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:50,359
Speaker 2: You know, we're missing a number of key players.

550
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 6: We got some guys back last week that probably shouldn't

551
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,640
be playing but just want to play, which is a

552
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,759
sign of how they respect coach Frost.

553
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,319
Speaker 2: And what he's built.

554
00:28:58,079 --> 00:28:59,359
Speaker 6: So there's a lot of things in the UCF is

555
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:02,279
gonna need to have their way on Saturday because they

556
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,640
know the BYU. It's a massive game for them and

557
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,960
they know the talent that they're up against. But that's okay,

558
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:09,200
you know, that's why we play this football game, and

559
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,119
we'll see what happens.

560
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: Mark, who are the players BYU fans? Need to know

561
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:17,039
about as the Knights heat into provo.

562
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: Well, I think on offense, Tavan Jackson, the UC quarterback.

563
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 6: When healthy and when he makes the right decisions, Tavan

564
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,680
can be really good, but he's battled injuries all year long,

565
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,519
and those injuries have limited his play. He's not as

566
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:37,559
big of a run threat as he would be if

567
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:41,400
he wasn't banged up. But when Tavern's on and he

568
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,279
gets protection, he can be effected throwing the football. UC

569
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,000
has got a very good tight end in Dylan Wade

570
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,240
Or a big game last week including eighty three yard

571
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:53,640
touchdown catch and run. He's probably their best receiver as

572
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,920
far as his hands and getting open the play. A

573
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,039
lot of young guys at wide receiver, combination of a

574
00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:00,759
true freshman it's going to be really good that starts,

575
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,720
and some other guys that don't have a lot of

576
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,160
key for experience. Miles Montgomery, running back, had been out

577
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,400
of an injury. Miles his back. He's not one hundred percent,

578
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,519
but he's back. He'll give it his best a shot.

579
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:13,799
You know, offensively, you know I've said this in other

580
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:16,880
interviews before. You know, if I had guess Scott's playbook

581
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,359
might be thirty percent of ideally what he wants, and

582
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,720
that's because of injuries our starting centers that we've lost

583
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:24,359
him for the year.

584
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,599
Speaker 2: We're missing a guard of that out for the year.

585
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:30,599
Speaker 6: So because of that and the inexperienced we've got to

586
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,640
shrink the playbook. This isn't you know, this isn't McKenzie

587
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,720
milton running that offense in UCF had in twenty seventeen

588
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:37,920
among the best of the country.

589
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,319
Speaker 2: This is a skill down offense because of just the

590
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:42,960
person that we've got right now. So that's the challenge

591
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,440
on offense.

592
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 6: Defensively, uc has got two really good ends in Malachi

593
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Lawrence and nigeliue Kelly. Problem is they're banged up and

594
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:54,799
probably shouldn't be playing either, but both around shot and

595
00:30:56,319 --> 00:31:00,319
playing in the game. There Raydon Marshall a nickelb because

596
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:02,039
a guy that had picked to preserve the win last

597
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,640
week against Oklahoma State, and their two corners I think

598
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,920
are really good in Jane Belding and Antoine Jackson. You see,

599
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,640
if defense has played good this season, the offense at

600
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,799
times has not been as productive. That's left the defense

601
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:13,680
on the field a little bit too long. With those

602
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,519
numbers that were really good early this season. A little

603
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,000
bit skewed right now, but it's pretty good defense. It'll

604
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:20,279
be challenged this week, but the defense has played I

605
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:21,720
think better than people thought this year.

606
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,359
Speaker 4: You mentioned a few of the injuries.

607
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: What's maybe the grade you'd give on the health of

608
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,640
the UCF Knights as they head down to Provo.

609
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:39,759
Speaker 6: Probably this team is a sixty percent of one hundred

610
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:43,279
percent in health. I mean he just lost guys for

611
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,119
the year. I mean lost some guys back in camp.

612
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,680
You know, you see I have lost probably their fastest

613
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,480
wide receiver in camp. They lost the freshman running back

614
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,519
they was definitely gonna play this season. Uh in camp,

615
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,559
and you've lost your starting sentate It's been a four

616
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,599
year starter elsewhere.

617
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: You know, you lost a key.

618
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:01,759
Speaker 6: Guard way who I mentioned the tight end is really good.

619
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,200
You know, Dylan was hurting the third game of the

620
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,880
year he's playing. Then lost a key defensive tackle as

621
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,119
an NFL prospect. They lost the defensive end, it was

622
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:12,160
part of their rotation for the season. They got a

623
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,839
reserve linebacker out for the year, got another safety that

624
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:16,960
got hurt first.

625
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: Game of the season.

626
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:20,799
Speaker 6: So you know, we're trying to build something and you

627
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,319
lose guys like that. You know, you know, the old

628
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:27,200
next man up mentality sounds good, but you know sometimes

629
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,119
it's just not the same.

630
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,039
Speaker 2: Having said that, players have thought hard.

631
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,599
Speaker 6: The one thing you know, again I'll say, is that

632
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:35,160
you said we'll play hard. I don't know what the

633
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,599
final score is going to be, and it may you know,

634
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:39,920
we went to Texas Tech and and and they were

635
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,960
just on a roll. We went to Baylor, gave up

636
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,759
a couple of quick scores. Defense only gave up nine

637
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:46,920
points the last three and a half quarters. But the

638
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,400
offense struggled because we had a quarterback that couldn't walk

639
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,720
because he was, you know, trying to limp on a

640
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,039
hamstring injury. That hamstring's a little bit better, but he's

641
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:57,160
going to try to play Saturday, simply because we got

642
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,000
two quarterbacks out for the year. We got a guy

643
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:00,920
that started the first game of the season. He fractured

644
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,759
his ribs a couple of weeks ago. He's out for

645
00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:05,079
the year. We got a kid that was a transfer

646
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:07,000
from Miami that was in the system last year.

647
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:09,559
Speaker 2: He hurt his shoulder in Game four. He's out for

648
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:09,880
the year.

649
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 6: So you know, it adds up, and you know, that's

650
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,119
that's not anybody else's fault. But just imagine if I

651
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,400
looked at the BYU roster, I took the same number

652
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,519
of guys off that roster, are they you know?

653
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,279
Speaker 2: Ten and one? Maybe not? But that's not the case.

654
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:27,000
And that's just the way it is. You got to

655
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,920
go play the football game.

656
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: Mark you're in the Big twelve. Now, you've been in

657
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,720
here for a few years. Do you feel like the

658
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:36,480
Big twelve is getting the respect they deserve right now

659
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:39,200
from the committee? I think there's five teams in the

660
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,480
top twenty five. But yeah, okay, there you go. Tell

661
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:44,000
me why no the.

662
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,839
Speaker 6: Pro Well, look, part of it is the conference fault,

663
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,880
and part of it is just the way the media

664
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,079
landscape is built. Yep, there's very little that the Big

665
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:57,559
twelve can do other than win big non conference games

666
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,319
and have teams that are constantly ranked inside the top

667
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,559
fifteen throughout the year. We've got two of them right now.

668
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,839
You know, Utah has been in that mix as well.

669
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,280
The other challenge that our conference has is and some

670
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,440
members of the college football media either don't read it

671
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:15,280
or just ignorant to the room. You know, you can

672
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,840
sit and tell me the great ratings of the SEC has. Yeah,

673
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,559
they get the best time slots. And right now the

674
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:22,880
struggle that the Big Twelve has is is we don't

675
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,960
have as much national matchups in the lead that are

676
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,280
getting the ideal matchups of a primetime game on ABC

677
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,440
or ESPN or Fox.

678
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: Not that big newon kickoff.

679
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 6: It's not good to have a game, not that three

680
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:38,360
thirty on Fox is a bad time to have a game,

681
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,440
But if you're going up against a you know, top

682
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,519
ten matchup in the SEC, you're gonna have a hard

683
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:45,760
time with the ratings battle there. And the national media says,

684
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,960
look how great the ratings are on the SEC. Okay,

685
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,039
if I'm on, if I'm on the three best slots

686
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:53,239
every single Saturday, of course I'm going to get the

687
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,599
eyeballs and some of them. And I think the Big

688
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,360
twelve is blessed to have a great media deal, but we're

689
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,119
struggling to get the ideal timeslot. I mean no disrespect,

690
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,719
but playing nowt on FS one is a tough audience

691
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,119
to get, you know, playing one o'clock Eastern on ESPN

692
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:10,679
two Saturday is a tough audience to get. Nobody's fault,

693
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,639
it's just the landscape of how the media slots are

694
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:15,960
filled right now. So the best thing the Big twelve

695
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,519
can do is when opportunities come to play those big

696
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:21,480
non conference games against the Big ten and SEC school, we.

697
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:24,079
Speaker 2: Got to win. And then in the conference.

698
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 6: To some degree, the league is cannibalizing itself because I

699
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,800
do think the top part of the league is beating

700
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,320
each other up. Look, you follow this league. We have

701
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,000
a lot of good teams that have lost two conference

702
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,199
games at three conference games that are good, that are

703
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,159
just good football teams. And when you go and play

704
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:43,000
someone's going to get beat. And look to ask people, well,

705
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,679
that's a good CINCINNTI football team they beat last week

706
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,280
on the road, tough stadium in Nippert Stadium, And you

707
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,159
can say, well, since he's got this money long, that's

708
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:50,679
a good team.

709
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: I know that football team is really good.

710
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,079
Speaker 6: And sometimes we don't get the credit when we've got,

711
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,760
for example, a two loss teams or three loss teams

712
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,719
that other leagues get because of perception. Is just you know,

713
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,840
a bigger football game, like you said, and I'll argue

714
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,519
with people something it's oh, it's so hard to go

715
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:08,280
on the road in the SEC goes start free. You

716
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,440
go to Lexington, go to Manhattan, you know, go to Profo,

717
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,199
go to Luppock, you know, go to Waco and they're

718
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:15,920
playing real well.

719
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,559
Speaker 2: Go to our place where're playing real well.

720
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 6: You know, just because something's got eighty thousand and fifty

721
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,159
and sixty thousand, pretty loud at night for football game

722
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,079
and tough for a visiting team. But we just don't

723
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:27,599
have that level of national respect right now.

724
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: I love the league.

725
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 6: Some may called a sixteen misfit toys that have no

726
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:33,239
the place to go, but I think the league is

727
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:33,840
really solid.

728
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: It's the best basketball league in the country. Nobody could

729
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,360
argue that.

730
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,639
Speaker 6: And the football wise, we're just going to fight for

731
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,960
more national headlines. But you know, I think the Big

732
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,960
twelve is is a very solid league.

733
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: It's it's a very interesting study. As I've looked, I've

734
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,320
kind of pulled data points. You have obviously the preseason,

735
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:54,159
preseason bias and even historical biases that that have been

736
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:58,039
built in a a in an era bygone that had

737
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:01,400
bag men that allowed certain conference as certain teams to

738
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:07,280
probably circumvent the rules through liquid funds, right and that

739
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:09,960
I've talked with all my former players that play in

740
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,599
the NFL that was happening in the SEC, Big Tan,

741
00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:17,239
et cetera. It just was certain teams were not able

742
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,440
to play by those same rules. So you have you

743
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,719
have equity that has been built up through the conferences,

744
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,559
through who knows by how what means you have TV money, tech, population,

745
00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:30,199
density of conference hierarchy. Late season momentum now that they're

746
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,239
talking about the head heads don't matter anymore because that

747
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,800
was too early in the season. So even your your

748
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,960
P four versus P four data points that we want

749
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:42,280
more of in order to determine who's going to make

750
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,559
it into the playoffs are now being thrown out the

751
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:49,400
window because well, late season momentum. So it's really hard,

752
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,320
I think, to put trust in a human committee that

753
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,360
that is full of folly and subjective human eye test

754
00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:00,719
momentum type of deals combined with all these their data points.

755
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, and there's no perfect model, I mean, and the

756
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:07,880
systems flawed, the systems lawed because to some degree, we

757
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,920
have conference championship games that don't benefit participant.

758
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: Georgia doesn't want.

759
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,079
Speaker 6: To make the SEC championship game because they want to

760
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,760
secure a top four seed, and to some degree, you know,

761
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:20,360
it may not benefit our two teams BETWA BYU in

762
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Texas Tech. Because you know you're gonna tell me that

763
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,000
if a b YU in Texas Tech at eleven and

764
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,239
one playing a conference championship game, two teams that a

765
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,239
great season, the losers should miss the playoff because what

766
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,760
because we played the thirteenth data point that the two

767
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,599
teams that could go eleven and one that someone's going.

768
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 2: To lose and because of that loss missed the playoff.

769
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 6: It you know, you have a hard time justifying the

770
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,840
validity of that, and living in sec country, you've got

771
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,159
team that don't want to play in that game because

772
00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:57,199
it would hurt a seating or possibly miss the playoffs.

773
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,519
It's a it's a flawed system. I don't know the

774
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:02,840
perfect well, I think I do. But you know, particularly

775
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,119
at college hockey, they got the sports all degree. Here's

776
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:08,519
a model every single day, it's a live ranking. This

777
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,400
is how we do it. No ansis or butch, it's

778
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,320
how they fill out the bracket. No one complains and

779
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,239
it's a fantastic model. But in college football, I think

780
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,480
we like the drama, would like the uncertainty of a committee,

781
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,079
and I'm not quite sure that's changing.

782
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:26,119
Speaker 2: Anytime soon. But it would be you know the problem

783
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:27,559
is there won't be enough people screaming.

784
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 6: There'll be more people screaming about Miami being left out

785
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:33,440
having beaten Notre Dame if that happens, than the Big

786
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,000
Twelve not getting a second team, and which would be again,

787
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,800
if b YU and Texas Tech win, it would be

788
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,239
comical for someone to say, well, only one I just

789
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:45,000
I don't understand, and you would tell me that.

790
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,159
Speaker 3: So let's say, b why you get to the Big

791
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:50,679
Total Championship? Get me the Blues to Texas Tech. Maybe

792
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,400
it's closer, maybe it's a one score game. Do you

793
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,400
think be what you gets into the College Football Playoff

794
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,000
or they ousted?

795
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,559
Speaker 2: Oh my Big twelve Blood.

796
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 6: I mean, I think they would deserve to be in there,

797
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,159
but I don't think the committee will put them in.

798
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,719
I mean, just take a look ahere their rank right now,

799
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,800
and borring a massive round of upsets on Saturday, b

800
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,440
YU is not going to move up very far in

801
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,400
the College Football Player Committee's views, and they'll be in

802
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,119
that prime position that should they lose. It makes it

803
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:24,199
easy in the committee to say, you know, they were good.

804
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,000
You know, we don't need to make this change, and

805
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,599
I wish that wasn't the case, but I don't see

806
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:36,000
how that scenario changes boring a number of upsets. You know,

807
00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:37,880
they would need to you know, pit to beat Miami.

808
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,159
They would need some other things to happen, because what

809
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:46,559
would happen is if Texas beats Texas A and m

810
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:48,880
There'll be people that will justify a nine to three

811
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,159
Texas team getting it, and they'll tell you that, hey,

812
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,480
they have four top ten wins, so you know they

813
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,199
deserve to get in.

814
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're gonna end up with that game. And

815
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,840
the only thing that we can do is a league.

816
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 6: It is We've got to try to schedule some of

817
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,679
these games, and we got to win some of these games.

818
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: And when you win some of.

819
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 6: Those games, you can schedule some of those games, you

820
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,199
get some of those TV time slots, and you get

821
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:10,719
a bit of ranking in the beginning of the season

822
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,079
where you're not crawling from outside the top twenty five

823
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:19,119
to you know, scratch your way into a flawed system.

824
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,079
But you know, I mean the committee, I mean, the

825
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,920
committee told you they justified dropping Utah because of an

826
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,039
incredible game the uel. You know, they were a close

827
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,480
game with kansasitate and kansasit. It's got this record. It's like,

828
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:35,840
all right, so you know, we don't reward the team.

829
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,760
And I know, Py you've made it like that at Utah.

830
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,079
But teams win close games, teams win crazy games. College

831
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,239
football is crazy and will penalize them because you know

832
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,039
they didn't win by no.

833
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and it's determined by conference too, right. You

834
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,920
can lose a close game in the SEC or the

835
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,760
Big Ten, but not in the Big.

836
00:41:53,599 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 6: Twelve, not the style.

837
00:41:58,079 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 4: Points matty by the conference.

838
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,079
Speaker 3: How do you see this game in provo maybe playing

839
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:04,599
out BAU heavy favorite.

840
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 4: Do you think UCF keeps it close?

841
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 6: Well, my thought is in the forecast right now doesn't

842
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,280
show that. I was kind of hoping for a blizzard

843
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,440
because I think a wild weather game, anything could happen. Look,

844
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,519
I think for UCF to have a chance, And that's

845
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:24,039
how I think your goal. I mean, you want to

846
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:25,599
be in the game of the fourth quarter. It's one

847
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:28,920
possession game, look up and and have some opportunities. They've

848
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,400
got to protect the football, cannot turn the ball over,

849
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,199
and they've got to cut down on penalties.

850
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: One of the things that I.

851
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 6: Know is really frustrated Scott Frost is the penalties that

852
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,159
you can control.

853
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: You know, we're playing with the backup center.

854
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 6: We had fourth and one against Oklahoma State last week

855
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:44,519
and we won the game. But you know, fourth and one,

856
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:46,599
he moves the ball before the snap. Now you're fourth

857
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:49,320
and sixth. Now you punt. We had two holding calls

858
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,599
last week on a backup guard and both holds came

859
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,239
twelve yards behind the running back who didn't need to hold.

860
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,239
He was passed a line. So those are things that

861
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,239
you just came out of four in the football game.

862
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,679
They can't put themselves in first and twenty or second

863
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:06,760
and fifteen. They're gonna need, you know, a few breaks

864
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,519
with turnovers. You mean, you know, people you to make

865
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:12,519
some mistakes and you know, can't give up the big play.

866
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 2: And you said defense hasn't really give up the big play.

867
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 6: This would be a challenge because you know the run

868
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,760
ability of b YU, But you know, we're gonna need

869
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,079
some things to go our way. Tavian Jackson, the quarterback

870
00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:24,920
is gonna have to play above the level that maybe

871
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,639
he's played at this season, and you just hope you

872
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,480
get a chance in the second half. That's great respect

873
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:32,440
for BYU for what they've done this season and and

874
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,199
and for what they've built in UCF. I think they've

875
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,119
got a big challenge ahead of them, But you know,

876
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:39,400
we'll go out there see what happens. And like I said,

877
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:42,800
I think b YU is gonna get a better motivated

878
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,280
U s A football team because they got something to

879
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,760
play for than the team that last year had nothing

880
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,239
to play for. Doesn't mean that UCF is gonna win,

881
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,119
but I think they'll get a team more focused than

882
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:55,559
a squad last year one. You know that that wasn't

883
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:56,239
really engaged.

884
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,199
Speaker 3: Mark Daniels, Ladies and Gentlemen, the voice of the UCF Knights,

885
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,159
Mark best way to fort you what you do, how

886
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:03,000
you do it for all of our listeners.

887
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: Just u c F.

888
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 6: Mark Dangels on the extra twitters where you find it

889
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,159
there and we're excited to come out to Provo for

890
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:10,400
the game.

891
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, any fun plans, you guys get to be going

892
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,039
out to dinner at all, you get to do any

893
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:15,639
sight seeing, you're gonna go hike the y.

894
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 6: Well, we usually don't land till late afternoon with an

895
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,039
early game. There's not much time when I get back

896
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:24,480
for basketball either. A couple of years ago for basketball

897
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:27,360
and then we flew in from Texas Tech from a

898
00:44:27,639 --> 00:44:29,480
Saturday Tuesday games, so we've got to spend a little

899
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,920
bit of time and it was great. As a runner,

900
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,480
I love running in provo and and and the air

901
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:38,599
and everything. And so hopefully we come back for basketball.

902
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:40,079
It's not too cool, but it'll be a quick turn

903
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:41,000
around for football here.

904
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:43,679
Speaker 3: Well, Mark, we salute you, we appreciate it. Thanks for

905
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,400
spending so much time with us, and we'll look forward

906
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:46,880
to sing.

907
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,679
Speaker 4: And provo this weekend.

908
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:50,599
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you guys, Happy Thanksgiving.

909
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:53,159
Speaker 3: Mark Daniels and the director of Broadcasting for the UCF

910
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:55,920
Knights and the voice of the UCF Knights.

911
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,239
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