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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this Wednesday afternoon in

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<v Speaker 1>the Clash eight and the super Bowl coming up by

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<v Speaker 1>fourty four or five days.

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals should be there, but nonetheless, Liz Bonus' is the

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<v Speaker 2>medical wellness.

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<v Speaker 1>Reporter of Channel twelve WKRC.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of good information about what to do, what not

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<v Speaker 2>to do on the Super Bowl and so much more.

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<v Speaker 2>And Liz Bonus, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 2>And first of all, all of us are very upset

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<v Speaker 2>with the fact that Bengals are not there. Maybe one

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<v Speaker 2>day they'll be back, but who knows. But let's face it,

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<v Speaker 2>I read so much about Super Bowl parties, what not?

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<v Speaker 2>D What is your research shown, if anything?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So we got two cool things on the

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl. We need to start with one before the other,

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't think you're going to want to hear

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<v Speaker 3>about this after food. Have you heard about this whole

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<v Speaker 3>pe anxiety thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've read it.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of disregarded it, but you're in disposal. Pe

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<v Speaker 2>Anxiety is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Benner tells me he often has the same issue

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<v Speaker 2>during the game. Explain what that is.

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<v Speaker 3>So they said that about a third of us. They

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<v Speaker 3>go to the bathroom at halftime, and then they map

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<v Speaker 3>out a game strategy for when to go to the

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<v Speaker 3>bathroom and as a consequence for like holding our bladders,

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<v Speaker 3>and it gives us pee anxiety. We actually will not

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<v Speaker 3>go in the last two minutes of the game. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's so much so like I'm talking to the Eurology

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<v Speaker 3>group about this today because they really say, this is

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<v Speaker 3>not good for any of us, that we should be

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<v Speaker 3>sitting around worrying about when we can pee in a

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<v Speaker 3>game that the Bengals are not even in. Don't you

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<v Speaker 3>think that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have it myself when the Bengals were in

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl. Yes, when Coop and others were making

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<v Speaker 2>those catches against the Rams, yes, I had pea anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>Not had it sense, But it's a real thing, correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't realize that there was a name for it.

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<v Speaker 3>And they say that more than half of us feel

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<v Speaker 3>anxious when we're stuck in a situation that keeps us

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<v Speaker 3>from using the restroom, and we consider Super Bowl Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>in the game one of those pee anxiety times. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>my goodness, who knew?

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<v Speaker 2>What about the caloric intake I know many of us

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<v Speaker 2>are concerned. You're binging before, binging, during, binging after and

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<v Speaker 2>this super Bowl because the Chiefs and egos are involved,

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<v Speaker 2>which they've been involved to in the last three I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that the ticket scalping's way down, the viewership maybe down,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows, But what about the diet, what about what

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<v Speaker 2>eat what not?

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<v Speaker 3>Dat?

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<v Speaker 1>How much caloric intake? Should you schedule? Things like that?

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<v Speaker 3>So I honestly think that this year the most exciting

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<v Speaker 3>thing will be the food. Make a good Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 3>party because I can't tell you that the game's going

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<v Speaker 3>to hold your interest, you know, especially we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a stake in it. But it just feels like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I know some people want the Chiefs to

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<v Speaker 3>have the third repeat and other people don't, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so focus on the food. It's a good thing. But

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<v Speaker 3>what's interesting is when you start looking at surveys, we

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<v Speaker 3>get as many, according to some as eleven thousand calories

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<v Speaker 3>that day, and it's recommended you get no more than

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<v Speaker 3>about two thousands of a day. So second biggest eating

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<v Speaker 3>day after Thanksgiving? Where do you think most of the

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<v Speaker 3>calories come from?

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<v Speaker 2>I would think they come from chips, and popcorn and

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<v Speaker 2>drinks and beer and guacamla and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So the topper is our pizza and wings get literally

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<v Speaker 3>you get about ten grams of fat in every wing,

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<v Speaker 3>which means you get one hundred calories per wing. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I have spent years researching this. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I told her I got my first radio job because

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<v Speaker 3>they were like, tell me something interesting about food. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, did you know that last year we

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<v Speaker 3>ate enough chicken wings that if you line them up,

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<v Speaker 3>they would stretch from New York to Disney World. And

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, you should be on the morning show translation

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<v Speaker 3>you have no life, you know. And I'm like, it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't realize, like they just kind of suck them down,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and you have the I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 3>you like the tops or the bottoms of whatever. Those

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<v Speaker 3>things can kind of slide in. You don't even realize

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<v Speaker 3>you got a thousand calories and wings before you even

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<v Speaker 3>started the den. You know what else will do that

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<v Speaker 3>to you? Which is fascinating to me? And I love

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<v Speaker 3>these devil's eggs. Did you ever notice how you can

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<v Speaker 3>eat like sixteen devil's eggs, but you could never eat

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen eggs in an omelet.

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<v Speaker 1>No, why is that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't know. I've been actually fascinated by that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I love devil eggs and I can suck them

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<v Speaker 3>down like you. Why is it that like it does that?

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<v Speaker 3>And yet I would never like open a dozen eggs

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<v Speaker 3>and make them for my omelet. They're so good. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're just they're like slithery and they just go

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<v Speaker 3>down easy. And I justify it because it's time protein.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've been working on the deviled eggs perfecting recipes.

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<v Speaker 3>The secret is you need to put a little mustard

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<v Speaker 3>in the inside egg, you know, when you make them

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<v Speaker 3>filling little male little mustard, little bill pickle fuse seasonings.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the bot Either way, do you know why we

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<v Speaker 3>eat so much on Super Bowl Sunday? Because we drink

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<v Speaker 3>so much?

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<v Speaker 2>So is not drinking if you if you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to eat a lot, don't drink a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this is actually fascinating. So I always thought, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when you gain the freshman fifteen when you

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<v Speaker 3>go to college, it was because like y'all start drinking.

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<v Speaker 3>But actually what they found is that when you start drinking,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't care what you eat. So most of us

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<v Speaker 3>start drinking like noon and the games at six thirty,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you know, you have a couple, then you

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<v Speaker 3>have a couple of Pretty soon you're like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care what I'm eating. I'm re seating because I'm eating,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And it's fascinating when you actually have less alcohol.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, oh, fewer calories, but that's not what they

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<v Speaker 3>say makes the difference. What makes the difference is that

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<v Speaker 3>you just lose all your sense of judgment and do

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<v Speaker 3>things and eat things or whatever that you wouldn't so

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<v Speaker 3>really do so if you want to cut down the calories,

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<v Speaker 3>which I find fascinating because this year they're actually having oh,

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<v Speaker 3>zem pick super Bowl parties. Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard of that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, ozempics. So many people are on these weight loss

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<v Speaker 3>medicines that for the first year, year to year obesity

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<v Speaker 3>stats are down, and it's sad. It's not because we're

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<v Speaker 3>eating less and exercising more. It's because we're all taking drugs.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of people are on these. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to blow the whole day and you're not really

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to have much alcohol with the ozempic. Thing is

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<v Speaker 3>I know everybody does, but it delays the gastric emptying,

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<v Speaker 3>so putting alcohol and there is not a good fit.

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<v Speaker 3>You can like pass out and stuff. But so they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing like a lot more non alcoholic drinks to

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<v Speaker 3>get you started, which you can do with spritzers and

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<v Speaker 3>all that. They're doing more high protein foods. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you look, you'll see all kinds of Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 3>recipes now for the high pro the zero the ozempic diet,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is. And then a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 3>just saying like, okay, we're not starting our meal until

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<v Speaker 3>four pm, because what happens is that as you eat

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<v Speaker 3>for six hours, you lose all sense of your hunger signals.

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<v Speaker 3>And the whole point of ozembic is it makes you

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<v Speaker 3>less hungry because it's delays that gastric empty So just

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<v Speaker 3>the thought if someone in your circle is trying to

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<v Speaker 3>watch a few things that could help. I personally think,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to eat what you want to eat

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<v Speaker 3>on one day, that's not usually the problem. It's what

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing the other three hundred and sixty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and the other thing you've done?

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<v Speaker 2>This topics on when to eat and I try to

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<v Speaker 2>consume food before six or six thirty or seven. I

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<v Speaker 2>go to sleep maybe at midnight or one o'clock. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're filling up your belly at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the game, which is like ten PM or ten thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>you may have a rough night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with you on that. I do think

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<v Speaker 3>eating earlier is once gentler on the whole system, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think you sleep better. And you know, it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like giving your car full think of gas after

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<v Speaker 3>you've driven the long trip. You don't really need it

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<v Speaker 3>at midnight. But I also think it's interesting that sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>how well your team is doing will influence like, oh well,

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<v Speaker 3>I might as well just eat because my team's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>lose anyway, which I think is really fast connected.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with the Reds and Bengals, we've all been there. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The issue to the rage the last couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>is the new pain medicine has been approved by the

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<v Speaker 2>FDA that doesn't involve OPIOI, it doesn't involve some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of addiction issue, and it really attacks the pain sensors

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<v Speaker 2>at the side of the pain instead of going to

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<v Speaker 2>your brain. Could that be a game change? You're about

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<v Speaker 2>people that using various drugs to get high or low,

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<v Speaker 2>and that this new pain medication could be really a plus.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, from the research that I'm reading, it could be.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Vertex, and it's the non opioid pain drug,

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<v Speaker 3>And as you said, what it does is it goes

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<v Speaker 3>to the signals and the nerves, which is usually where

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<v Speaker 3>you're having pain, you know, your hip, your back, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>not in the brain or its reward pathway. And the

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<v Speaker 3>reward pathway is the secret. The question I always have

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<v Speaker 3>because they say that like about one in three who

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<v Speaker 3>tries an opioid for certain will get hooked. The question

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<v Speaker 3>I have is, you know, are those same people still

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<v Speaker 3>going to be in search of something because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you probably had surgery and had taken a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>days and you didn't get hooked, and you know there's

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<v Speaker 3>a tendency for us to want any escape. So well,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it could be a game changer for pain.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope that it's not just like okay, now we

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<v Speaker 3>look for the next fentanyl or whatever. You know, people

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<v Speaker 3>that want to find something to escape usually do you

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<v Speaker 3>know case in point, have you seen the psychedelic conferences

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<v Speaker 3>now they're having, you know, yeah, and like people say,

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<v Speaker 3>it helps me forget, I don't have PTSD and all that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's great, but like you know, we we tried

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<v Speaker 3>that years back with LSD and it didn't go so well.

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<v Speaker 3>So I worry that, you know, we we like to

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<v Speaker 3>think that, wow, we'll change the opioid structure of a

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<v Speaker 3>pain pill and people won't get addicted. But I actually

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<v Speaker 3>think that most of us in life now are looking

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<v Speaker 3>for some kind of an escape, at least for a

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<v Speaker 3>little while. And I found that out because I was

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<v Speaker 3>looking at doing some research recently on the whole generation,

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<v Speaker 3>like the millennials, they say are so addicted to things

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<v Speaker 3>that they're actually using on the job, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>tell for you know, pain killer, poppers and things like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's so prevalent. And it wasn't just like an

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<v Speaker 3>It was even like addictions to pornography and gambling and

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<v Speaker 3>they can't cope during the day and they're using it work.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was like this whole thing about how it's

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<v Speaker 3>then it's really also very sad that we just want

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<v Speaker 3>this game changer for pain really works. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if youn't have pain, it's a bad sign that your

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<v Speaker 3>body's telling you something. But clinical trials of that drug

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to find out. We're going to find

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<v Speaker 3>out if this really was all hype and we were

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<v Speaker 3>making people addicted, or if people just wanted to escape

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you've done reporting on this before. About gambling

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<v Speaker 2>in the super Bowl, it's the number one gambling event

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. A lot of the websites are encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>people to put up a few bucks. You get two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars in this and that, and everyone almost gambles

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<v Speaker 2>on the Super Bowl constantly. And the receptors in the brain,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of young males, say between fifteen and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>years old, use porn instead of dating because you can't

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<v Speaker 2>deal with a real woman. Therefore you have in some

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy land that's a problem. Are the same receptors in

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<v Speaker 2>the brain that deal with porn and gambling and alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>at work for those different elements, But for those who

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<v Speaker 2>want to gamble in the Super Bowl. I can gamble

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<v Speaker 2>and just walk away and don't do it ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the problem. But many Americans, whether it's porn, drinking, drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>or gambling, they start and they can't stop.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's interesting. I am working on a story

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<v Speaker 3>like this. We're airing it six on Local twelve. And

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<v Speaker 3>who deals with nothing but addictions, Internet addiction, porn addiction,

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<v Speaker 3>gambling addiction, you know, And he actually said that there

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<v Speaker 3>is a higher suicide rate in gambling addiction than in

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<v Speaker 3>some of the others. And they do think that, especially

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<v Speaker 3>with pornography and gambling, there's a center in the brain

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<v Speaker 3>that gets so hooked that without it you cannot achieve

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<v Speaker 3>the same high. And he was actually telling me that

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<v Speaker 3>there are guys now that if you know, if you

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<v Speaker 3>get so addicted to porn, it plays with the dopamine

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<v Speaker 3>in some weird, wacky outfit that you know, or borders

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<v Speaker 3>on violence or something like that, will not get you

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<v Speaker 3>turned on. And they actually said that there's a higher

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<v Speaker 3>rate of the use of like ed drugs and direct

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<v Speaker 3>all this function in these guys because unless they can

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<v Speaker 3>get that high, they can't achieve whatever it is they

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<v Speaker 3>want to achieve. And he's he really thinks there's a

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<v Speaker 3>similar correlation in gambling, like it's a different kind of high,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know if we know why. And what

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<v Speaker 3>was so interesting to me was that he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the problem. One of the reasons that the suicide rate

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<v Speaker 3>is higher with some of these is that they involve

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<v Speaker 3>your money, maybe even more than a drug or alcohol

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<v Speaker 3>addiction would, And so that means you've spent your kids

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<v Speaker 3>college education, you've mortgaged your house, and quite often you

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<v Speaker 3>think if you take your own life that people will

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<v Speaker 3>get insurance payments and it would cover you, which isn't

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<v Speaker 3>often true. And so there's a lot of education that

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<v Speaker 3>we need to do. But I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 3>with gambling we know the extent of the addiction, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's so much like porn, it's done in secret. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't like I mean, you might drink with your friends,

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<v Speaker 3>or smoke or do whatever drug with your friends because

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<v Speaker 3>it's a friendly thing, but you don't go Hey, let's

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<v Speaker 3>all pull out our phones. And check out porn together.

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<v Speaker 3>Not you. I mean maybe you do, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know anyone who does that. I've never met a person.

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<v Speaker 3>It's usually done in secret. So same thing with gambling.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not like you might put a dollar here, a

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<v Speaker 3>them that this is that dollar. You just put the

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<v Speaker 3>whole mortgage payments down, you know, because it's yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of an embarrassing thing. So I think the real

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<v Speaker 3>message is if you talk to the people with gambling hotlines,

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<v Speaker 3>and they are very passionate by helping people. They want

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<v Speaker 3>people to know there really is help for whatever the

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<v Speaker 3>other addiction is, you know, porn gambling. You don't think

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<v Speaker 3>there is because it's not openly shared. But just like

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<v Speaker 3>you can interrupt an alcohol addiction or drug addiction, you

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<v Speaker 3>can really interrupt these and they do it usually with

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<v Speaker 3>a variety of techniques, you know, sometimes avoid and sometimes medication,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes accountability. It's never easy, but even kind of start

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<v Speaker 3>gambling your whole future either, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Gambling I've been involved with.

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<v Speaker 2>I represented some gamblers and criminal charges and they have

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<v Speaker 2>to lose. Winning does and satisfy them. They have to

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<v Speaker 2>lose because they have such a poor self identity, they

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<v Speaker 2>have to be at the bottom of the well. They

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<v Speaker 2>can't succeed. They keep gambling until they lose. Many people

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<v Speaker 2>who might hit the roulette wheel at hard Rock may

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<v Speaker 2>walk out the door with three hundred dollars thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>But a true gambling addict has got to stay there

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<v Speaker 2>until they lose as much as they can lose, because

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<v Speaker 2>it solidifies the view of themself as a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they gamble. You know what I'm saying, that's

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<v Speaker 3>I would believe you on that. I also know that

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<v Speaker 3>the way you hook people is through what they call

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<v Speaker 3>intermittent reward, and gambling is very high on that, meaning,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's very hard to break that because you

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<v Speaker 3>keep getting the intermittent reward. And its like being in

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<v Speaker 3>a bad relationship. You know, the guy, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>flowers or whatever else. It's like the intermitt rewards, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're so nice and so normal in between, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and you feel like that niceness and the normalness come

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<v Speaker 3>back when you win a little bit. And so not

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<v Speaker 3>that I say in those kind of relationships, but if

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<v Speaker 3>you talk to anyone, that's usually why you stay in

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<v Speaker 3>something abusive, you know. So I do think you're right

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<v Speaker 3>that probably sadly, you know, you have to hit rock bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>Lots of things in life are like that. But the

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<v Speaker 3>message is you really don't have to if you can

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<v Speaker 3>get someone that can help you. Kind of in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's sad. It's sad that, like, we're taking

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<v Speaker 3>a really fun game and this is what it has become.

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<v Speaker 3>And they said sports betting really did push it over

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lis Bonus, you're the best just health medical reporter.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on top of all this stuff. Get ready for

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl. We have about thirty seconds remaining. Who

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<v Speaker 2>do you like Sunday The Chiefs who I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>at all? Tay Tay Taylor Swift drives me crazy. Now

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a rumor of an affair with Joe Burrows.

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<v Speaker 2>You may sweitch size and come to the Bengals, in

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<v Speaker 2>which case the Bengals are going to win or fly

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles Fly.

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<v Speaker 1>What does lis Bonus say.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't really feel strongly about either, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of always for who hasn't won the Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl because I think it's fun to see that. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>told the Eagles want it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have they won it ever one time?

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<v Speaker 3>Or have it one time? Okay, So it's just been

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<v Speaker 3>a very long time, so I'm kind of rooting for

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<v Speaker 3>the underdog in this one. Plus I'm so tired of

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<v Speaker 3>the Chiefs, like they could have, you know, made it

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<v Speaker 3>to the Bengals stayed in the playoffs for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>and they wouldn't even do that for us, So I'm kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of merrying them now.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chiefs lost on purpose and Denver so the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>would not be And because the Bengals can beat them, right.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't. Yeah, they knew the Bengals could beat them

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<v Speaker 3>and they didn't want to play them. So just on principle,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of rooting the other way this time, but

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<v Speaker 3>not because I honestly have a preference, you know, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Liz Bonus, you're the best Super Bowl gambling porn and

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<v Speaker 2>so much more. Liz Bonus, thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 2>the Bill Cunningham shown lez You're a great American.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, back at you, and I want to know if

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<v Speaker 3>you feel the p anxiety in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll be texting you constantly.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the kind of facts that you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta pe, Lis, I gotta pe, I gotta pe.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's thank you very much. All Right, let's

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