Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this Wednesday afternoon in
Speaker 1: the Clash eight and the super Bowl coming up by
Speaker 1: fourty four or five days.
Speaker 2: Bengals should be there, but nonetheless, Liz Bonus' is the
Speaker 2: medical wellness.
Speaker 1: Reporter of Channel twelve WKRC.
Speaker 2: Lots of good information about what to do, what not
Speaker 2: to do on the Super Bowl and so much more.
Speaker 2: And Liz Bonus, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 2: And first of all, all of us are very upset
Speaker 2: with the fact that Bengals are not there. Maybe one
Speaker 2: day they'll be back, but who knows. But let's face it,
Speaker 2: I read so much about Super Bowl parties, what not?
Speaker 2: D What is your research shown, if anything?
Speaker 3: All right, So we got two cool things on the
Speaker 3: super Bowl. We need to start with one before the other,
Speaker 3: because I don't think you're going to want to hear
Speaker 3: about this after food. Have you heard about this whole
Speaker 3: pe anxiety thing.
Speaker 1: I've read it.
Speaker 2: I kind of disregarded it, but you're in disposal. Pe
Speaker 2: Anxiety is a real thing.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Tony Benner tells me he often has the same issue
Speaker 2: during the game. Explain what that is.
Speaker 3: So they said that about a third of us. They
Speaker 3: go to the bathroom at halftime, and then they map
Speaker 3: out a game strategy for when to go to the
Speaker 3: bathroom and as a consequence for like holding our bladders,
Speaker 3: and it gives us pee anxiety. We actually will not
Speaker 3: go in the last two minutes of the game. And
Speaker 3: it's so much so like I'm talking to the Eurology
Speaker 3: group about this today because they really say, this is
Speaker 3: not good for any of us, that we should be
Speaker 3: sitting around worrying about when we can pee in a
Speaker 3: game that the Bengals are not even in. Don't you
Speaker 3: think that's true.
Speaker 2: I don't have it myself when the Bengals were in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Yes, when Coop and others were making
Speaker 2: those catches against the Rams, yes, I had pea anxiety.
Speaker 2: Not had it sense, But it's a real thing, correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't realize that there was a name for it.
Speaker 3: And they say that more than half of us feel
Speaker 3: anxious when we're stuck in a situation that keeps us
Speaker 3: from using the restroom, and we consider Super Bowl Sunday
Speaker 3: in the game one of those pee anxiety times. I'm like,
Speaker 3: my goodness, who knew?
Speaker 2: What about the caloric intake I know many of us
Speaker 2: are concerned. You're binging before, binging, during, binging after and
Speaker 2: this super Bowl because the Chiefs and egos are involved,
Speaker 2: which they've been involved to in the last three I
Speaker 2: understand that the ticket scalping's way down, the viewership maybe down,
Speaker 2: who knows, But what about the diet, what about what
Speaker 2: eat what not?
Speaker 3: Dat?
Speaker 1: How much caloric intake? Should you schedule? Things like that?
Speaker 3: So I honestly think that this year the most exciting
Speaker 3: thing will be the food. Make a good Super Bowl
Speaker 3: party because I can't tell you that the game's going
Speaker 3: to hold your interest, you know, especially we don't have
Speaker 3: a stake in it. But it just feels like, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I know some people want the Chiefs to
Speaker 3: have the third repeat and other people don't, and you know,
Speaker 3: so focus on the food. It's a good thing. But
Speaker 3: what's interesting is when you start looking at surveys, we
Speaker 3: get as many, according to some as eleven thousand calories
Speaker 3: that day, and it's recommended you get no more than
Speaker 3: about two thousands of a day. So second biggest eating
Speaker 3: day after Thanksgiving? Where do you think most of the
Speaker 3: calories come from?
Speaker 2: I would think they come from chips, and popcorn and
Speaker 2: drinks and beer and guacamla and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So the topper is our pizza and wings get literally
Speaker 3: you get about ten grams of fat in every wing,
Speaker 3: which means you get one hundred calories per wing. And
Speaker 3: you know, I have spent years researching this. I think
Speaker 3: I told her I got my first radio job because
Speaker 3: they were like, tell me something interesting about food. And
Speaker 3: I was like, did you know that last year we
Speaker 3: ate enough chicken wings that if you line them up,
Speaker 3: they would stretch from New York to Disney World. And
Speaker 3: they're like, you should be on the morning show translation
Speaker 3: you have no life, you know. And I'm like, it's true.
Speaker 3: We don't realize, like they just kind of suck them down,
Speaker 3: you know, and you have the I don't know whether
Speaker 3: you like the tops or the bottoms of whatever. Those
Speaker 3: things can kind of slide in. You don't even realize
Speaker 3: you got a thousand calories and wings before you even
Speaker 3: started the den. You know what else will do that
Speaker 3: to you? Which is fascinating to me? And I love
Speaker 3: these devil's eggs. Did you ever notice how you can
Speaker 3: eat like sixteen devil's eggs, but you could never eat
Speaker 3: sixteen eggs in an omelet.
Speaker 1: No, why is that?
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. I've been actually fascinated by that.
Speaker 3: Like I love devil eggs and I can suck them
Speaker 3: down like you. Why is it that like it does that?
Speaker 3: And yet I would never like open a dozen eggs
Speaker 3: and make them for my omelet. They're so good. I
Speaker 3: think they're just they're like slithery and they just go
Speaker 3: down easy. And I justify it because it's time protein.
Speaker 3: But I've been working on the deviled eggs perfecting recipes.
Speaker 3: The secret is you need to put a little mustard
Speaker 3: in the inside egg, you know, when you make them
Speaker 3: filling little male little mustard, little bill pickle fuse seasonings.
Speaker 3: Oh the bot Either way, do you know why we
Speaker 3: eat so much on Super Bowl Sunday? Because we drink
Speaker 3: so much?
Speaker 2: So is not drinking if you if you don't want
Speaker 2: to eat a lot, don't drink a lot.
Speaker 3: No, this is actually fascinating. So I always thought, like,
Speaker 3: you know, when you gain the freshman fifteen when you
Speaker 3: go to college, it was because like y'all start drinking.
Speaker 3: But actually what they found is that when you start drinking,
Speaker 3: you don't care what you eat. So most of us
Speaker 3: start drinking like noon and the games at six thirty,
Speaker 3: and so you know, you have a couple, then you
Speaker 3: have a couple of Pretty soon you're like, I don't
Speaker 3: care what I'm eating. I'm re seating because I'm eating,
Speaker 3: you know. And it's fascinating when you actually have less alcohol.
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, fewer calories, but that's not what they
Speaker 3: say makes the difference. What makes the difference is that
Speaker 3: you just lose all your sense of judgment and do
Speaker 3: things and eat things or whatever that you wouldn't so
Speaker 3: really do so if you want to cut down the calories,
Speaker 3: which I find fascinating because this year they're actually having oh,
Speaker 3: zem pick super Bowl parties. Did you know that?
Speaker 1: I never heard of that one.
Speaker 3: Yes, ozempics. So many people are on these weight loss
Speaker 3: medicines that for the first year, year to year obesity
Speaker 3: stats are down, and it's sad. It's not because we're
Speaker 3: eating less and exercising more. It's because we're all taking drugs.
Speaker 3: So a lot of people are on these. They don't
Speaker 3: want to blow the whole day and you're not really
Speaker 3: supposed to have much alcohol with the ozempic. Thing is
Speaker 3: I know everybody does, but it delays the gastric emptying,
Speaker 3: so putting alcohol and there is not a good fit.
Speaker 3: You can like pass out and stuff. But so they're
Speaker 3: they're doing like a lot more non alcoholic drinks to
Speaker 3: get you started, which you can do with spritzers and
Speaker 3: all that. They're doing more high protein foods. You know,
Speaker 3: if you look, you'll see all kinds of Super Bowl
Speaker 3: recipes now for the high pro the zero the ozempic diet,
Speaker 3: whatever it is. And then a lot of people are
Speaker 3: just saying like, okay, we're not starting our meal until
Speaker 3: four pm, because what happens is that as you eat
Speaker 3: for six hours, you lose all sense of your hunger signals.
Speaker 3: And the whole point of ozembic is it makes you
Speaker 3: less hungry because it's delays that gastric empty So just
Speaker 3: the thought if someone in your circle is trying to
Speaker 3: watch a few things that could help. I personally think,
Speaker 3: if you want to eat what you want to eat
Speaker 3: on one day, that's not usually the problem. It's what
Speaker 3: are you doing the other three hundred and sixty four.
Speaker 1: Right and the other thing you've done?
Speaker 2: This topics on when to eat and I try to
Speaker 2: consume food before six or six thirty or seven. I
Speaker 2: go to sleep maybe at midnight or one o'clock. But
Speaker 2: if you're filling up your belly at the end of
Speaker 2: the game, which is like ten PM or ten thirty,
Speaker 2: you may have a rough night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you on that. I do think
Speaker 3: eating earlier is once gentler on the whole system, and
Speaker 3: I think you sleep better. And you know, it's kind
Speaker 3: of like giving your car full think of gas after
Speaker 3: you've driven the long trip. You don't really need it
Speaker 3: at midnight. But I also think it's interesting that sometimes
Speaker 3: how well your team is doing will influence like, oh well,
Speaker 3: I might as well just eat because my team's gonna
Speaker 3: lose anyway, which I think is really fast connected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the Reds and Bengals, we've all been there. Now.
Speaker 2: The issue to the rage the last couple of days
Speaker 2: is the new pain medicine has been approved by the
Speaker 2: FDA that doesn't involve OPIOI, it doesn't involve some sort
Speaker 2: of addiction issue, and it really attacks the pain sensors
Speaker 2: at the side of the pain instead of going to
Speaker 2: your brain. Could that be a game change? You're about
Speaker 2: people that using various drugs to get high or low,
Speaker 2: and that this new pain medication could be really a plus.
Speaker 3: You know, from the research that I'm reading, it could be.
Speaker 3: It's called Vertex, and it's the non opioid pain drug,
Speaker 3: And as you said, what it does is it goes
Speaker 3: to the signals and the nerves, which is usually where
Speaker 3: you're having pain, you know, your hip, your back, whatever,
Speaker 3: not in the brain or its reward pathway. And the
Speaker 3: reward pathway is the secret. The question I always have
Speaker 3: because they say that like about one in three who
Speaker 3: tries an opioid for certain will get hooked. The question
Speaker 3: I have is, you know, are those same people still
Speaker 3: going to be in search of something because you know,
Speaker 3: you probably had surgery and had taken a couple of
Speaker 3: days and you didn't get hooked, and you know there's
Speaker 3: a tendency for us to want any escape. So well,
Speaker 3: I think it could be a game changer for pain.
Speaker 3: I hope that it's not just like okay, now we
Speaker 3: look for the next fentanyl or whatever. You know, people
Speaker 3: that want to find something to escape usually do you
Speaker 3: know case in point, have you seen the psychedelic conferences
Speaker 3: now they're having, you know, yeah, and like people say,
Speaker 3: it helps me forget, I don't have PTSD and all that,
Speaker 3: and that's great, but like you know, we we tried
Speaker 3: that years back with LSD and it didn't go so well.
Speaker 3: So I worry that, you know, we we like to
Speaker 3: think that, wow, we'll change the opioid structure of a
Speaker 3: pain pill and people won't get addicted. But I actually
Speaker 3: think that most of us in life now are looking
Speaker 3: for some kind of an escape, at least for a
Speaker 3: little while. And I found that out because I was
Speaker 3: looking at doing some research recently on the whole generation,
Speaker 3: like the millennials, they say are so addicted to things
Speaker 3: that they're actually using on the job, like you know,
Speaker 3: keeping alcohol in the desk and keeping drugs you can't
Speaker 3: tell for you know, pain killer, poppers and things like that,
Speaker 3: and it's so prevalent. And it wasn't just like an
Speaker 3: addiction to those things, like you know, a drug or alcohol.
Speaker 3: It was even like addictions to pornography and gambling and
Speaker 3: they can't cope during the day and they're using it work.
Speaker 3: And it was like this whole thing about how it's
Speaker 3: sort of maybe more acceptable to use a crutch. And
Speaker 3: then it's really also very sad that we just want
Speaker 3: some kind of an escape, and so I hope that
Speaker 3: this game changer for pain really works. And you know,
Speaker 3: if youn't have pain, it's a bad sign that your
Speaker 3: body's telling you something. But clinical trials of that drug
Speaker 3: showed it worked as well as the opioid based product.
Speaker 3: So we're going to find out. We're going to find
Speaker 3: out if this really was all hype and we were
Speaker 3: making people addicted, or if people just wanted to escape
Speaker 3: and it was a very convenient one.
Speaker 2: That's what you've done reporting on this before. About gambling
Speaker 2: in the super Bowl, it's the number one gambling event
Speaker 2: of the year. A lot of the websites are encouraging
Speaker 2: people to put up a few bucks. You get two
Speaker 2: hundred dollars in this and that, and everyone almost gambles
Speaker 2: on the Super Bowl constantly. And the receptors in the brain,
Speaker 2: a lot of young males, say between fifteen and thirty
Speaker 2: years old, use porn instead of dating because you can't
Speaker 2: deal with a real woman. Therefore you have in some
Speaker 2: fantasy land that's a problem. Are the same receptors in
Speaker 2: the brain that deal with porn and gambling and alcohol
Speaker 2: at work for those different elements, But for those who
Speaker 2: want to gamble in the Super Bowl. I can gamble
Speaker 2: and just walk away and don't do it ever again.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't have the problem. But many Americans, whether it's porn, drinking, drugs,
Speaker 2: or gambling, they start and they can't stop.
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. I am working on a story
Speaker 3: like this. We're airing it six on Local twelve. And
Speaker 3: they're the lender Center of Hope has a a guy
Speaker 3: who deals with nothing but addictions, Internet addiction, porn addiction,
Speaker 3: gambling addiction, you know, And he actually said that there
Speaker 3: is a higher suicide rate in gambling addiction than in
Speaker 3: some of the others. And they do think that, especially
Speaker 3: with pornography and gambling, there's a center in the brain
Speaker 3: that gets so hooked that without it you cannot achieve
Speaker 3: the same high. And he was actually telling me that
Speaker 3: there are guys now that if you know, if you
Speaker 3: get so addicted to porn, it plays with the dopamine
Speaker 3: in your brain, and your wife who isn't dressed up
Speaker 3: in some weird, wacky outfit that you know, or borders
Speaker 3: on violence or something like that, will not get you
Speaker 3: turned on. And they actually said that there's a higher
Speaker 3: rate of the use of like ed drugs and direct
Speaker 3: all this function in these guys because unless they can
Speaker 3: get that high, they can't achieve whatever it is they
Speaker 3: want to achieve. And he's he really thinks there's a
Speaker 3: similar correlation in gambling, like it's a different kind of high,
Speaker 3: but I don't know if we know why. And what
Speaker 3: was so interesting to me was that he said, you know,
Speaker 3: the problem. One of the reasons that the suicide rate
Speaker 3: is higher with some of these is that they involve
Speaker 3: your money, maybe even more than a drug or alcohol
Speaker 3: addiction would, And so that means you've spent your kids
Speaker 3: college education, you've mortgaged your house, and quite often you
Speaker 3: think if you take your own life that people will
Speaker 3: get insurance payments and it would cover you, which isn't
Speaker 3: often true. And so there's a lot of education that
Speaker 3: we need to do. But I don't even know if
Speaker 3: with gambling we know the extent of the addiction, because
Speaker 3: it's so much like porn, it's done in secret. You
Speaker 3: don't like I mean, you might drink with your friends,
Speaker 3: or smoke or do whatever drug with your friends because
Speaker 3: it's a friendly thing, but you don't go Hey, let's
Speaker 3: all pull out our phones. And check out porn together.
Speaker 3: Not you. I mean maybe you do, but I don't
Speaker 3: know anyone who does that. I've never met a person.
Speaker 3: It's usually done in secret. So same thing with gambling.
Speaker 3: You're not like you might put a dollar here, a
Speaker 3: dollar there with your friends, but you're not really telling
Speaker 3: them that this is that dollar. You just put the
Speaker 3: whole mortgage payments down, you know, because it's yeah, it's
Speaker 3: kind of an embarrassing thing. So I think the real
Speaker 3: message is if you talk to the people with gambling hotlines,
Speaker 3: and they are very passionate by helping people. They want
Speaker 3: people to know there really is help for whatever the
Speaker 3: other addiction is, you know, porn gambling. You don't think
Speaker 3: there is because it's not openly shared. But just like
Speaker 3: you can interrupt an alcohol addiction or drug addiction, you
Speaker 3: can really interrupt these and they do it usually with
Speaker 3: a variety of techniques, you know, sometimes avoid and sometimes medication,
Speaker 3: sometimes accountability. It's never easy, but even kind of start
Speaker 3: gambling your whole future either, you know.
Speaker 1: Gambling I've been involved with.
Speaker 2: I represented some gamblers and criminal charges and they have
Speaker 2: to lose. Winning does and satisfy them. They have to
Speaker 2: lose because they have such a poor self identity, they
Speaker 2: have to be at the bottom of the well. They
Speaker 2: can't succeed. They keep gambling until they lose. Many people
Speaker 2: who might hit the roulette wheel at hard Rock may
Speaker 2: walk out the door with three hundred dollars thank you.
Speaker 2: But a true gambling addict has got to stay there
Speaker 2: until they lose as much as they can lose, because
Speaker 2: it solidifies the view of themself as a piece of
Speaker 2: human excrement, and they want that confirmation that they're a loser.
Speaker 2: That's why they gamble. You know what I'm saying, that's
Speaker 2: really sad.
Speaker 3: I would believe you on that. I also know that
Speaker 3: the way you hook people is through what they call
Speaker 3: intermittent reward, and gambling is very high on that, meaning,
Speaker 3: you know, you win a little bit and then you lose,
Speaker 3: and so it's very hard to break that because you
Speaker 3: keep getting the intermittent reward. And its like being in
Speaker 3: a bad relationship. You know, the guy, like you know,
Speaker 3: breaks your ribs and then he apologize and gives you
Speaker 3: flowers or whatever else. It's like the intermitt rewards, but
Speaker 3: they're so nice and so normal in between, you know,
Speaker 3: and you feel like that niceness and the normalness come
Speaker 3: back when you win a little bit. And so not
Speaker 3: that I say in those kind of relationships, but if
Speaker 3: you talk to anyone, that's usually why you stay in
Speaker 3: something abusive, you know. So I do think you're right
Speaker 3: that probably sadly, you know, you have to hit rock bottom.
Speaker 3: Lots of things in life are like that. But the
Speaker 3: message is you really don't have to if you can
Speaker 3: get someone that can help you. Kind of in the meantime,
Speaker 3: you know, it's sad. It's sad that, like, we're taking
Speaker 3: a really fun game and this is what it has become.
Speaker 3: And they said sports betting really did push it over
Speaker 3: the top.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lis Bonus, you're the best just health medical reporter.
Speaker 2: You're on top of all this stuff. Get ready for
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. We have about thirty seconds remaining. Who
Speaker 2: do you like Sunday The Chiefs who I don't like
Speaker 2: at all? Tay Tay Taylor Swift drives me crazy. Now
Speaker 2: and there's a rumor of an affair with Joe Burrows.
Speaker 2: You may sweitch size and come to the Bengals, in
Speaker 2: which case the Bengals are going to win or fly
Speaker 2: Eagles Fly.
Speaker 1: What does lis Bonus say.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't really feel strongly about either, but
Speaker 3: I'm kind of always for who hasn't won the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl because I think it's fun to see that. I'm
Speaker 3: told the Eagles want it.
Speaker 1: Have they won it ever one time?
Speaker 3: Or have it one time? Okay, So it's just been
Speaker 3: a very long time, so I'm kind of rooting for
Speaker 3: the underdog in this one. Plus I'm so tired of
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, like they could have, you know, made it
Speaker 3: to the Bengals stayed in the playoffs for a while,
Speaker 3: and they wouldn't even do that for us, So I'm kind.
Speaker 1: Of merrying them now.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs lost on purpose and Denver so the Bengals
Speaker 2: would not be And because the Bengals can beat them, right.
Speaker 3: They didn't. Yeah, they knew the Bengals could beat them
Speaker 3: and they didn't want to play them. So just on principle,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of rooting the other way this time, but
Speaker 3: not because I honestly have a preference, you know, just.
Speaker 2: Liz Bonus, you're the best Super Bowl gambling porn and
Speaker 2: so much more. Liz Bonus, thank you for coming on
Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham shown lez You're a great American.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Hey, back at you, and I want to know if
Speaker 3: you feel the p anxiety in the game.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll be texting you constantly.
Speaker 3: Those are the kind of facts that you've got to
Speaker 3: I gotta pe, Lis, I gotta pe, I gotta pe.
Speaker 2: All right, let's thank you very much. All Right, let's
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