Speaker 1: Greeting, society tations, everyone at Tritz Wilson Walking Too, Fantasy
Speaker 1: Baseball Live. Today is the twenty sixth of January, about
Speaker 1: seven o'clock in the evening. I'm here with my good buddy,
Speaker 1: mister Tim McLeod. Tim, what's hanging man?
Speaker 2: A good trip into Thunderbaar. I thought i'd be a
Speaker 2: little more tired than I was, but I guess I'm
Speaker 2: in better shape than even I thought I was in.
Speaker 1: So you went to a wedding? What did you wear?
Speaker 2: I was very relaxed, just a pair of black dress
Speaker 2: pants and the sweater.
Speaker 1: Wow, well, look at you, very hick and cool.
Speaker 2: I had to. I had to get dressed before I
Speaker 2: left because the timing was getting a little on the
Speaker 2: tight side. So I wasn't wearing a I wasn't wearing
Speaker 2: a suit and driving four hours in a car to
Speaker 2: get to a wedding.
Speaker 1: Richard, Yeah, good. So the young couple is officially married.
Speaker 1: Where do they go on their honeymoon?
Speaker 2: Uh? Nowhere?
Speaker 1: Nowhere.
Speaker 2: They're taking off for a couple of days, but that's
Speaker 2: about it. Yeah. They've just recently relocated from southern Ontario
Speaker 2: uh to Canora, which is about two and a half
Speaker 2: hours north of where I am. He likes he likes
Speaker 2: northern Ontario and he was down at Southern Ontario. He's
Speaker 2: an electrician by trade. And Brady is and Erica is
Speaker 2: a nurse.
Speaker 1: And a whole bio. I just want to know what
Speaker 1: they went on vacation.
Speaker 2: Are you saying?
Speaker 1: I'm rambling? It's the blood type, Tim, you didn't tell me.
Speaker 2: It's got to be positive. But anyhow, a great, great
Speaker 2: couple and it was nice to spend time with them,
Speaker 2: and Alex and Ethel and Kathy's two sisters. Hey, I
Speaker 2: gotta give a big show. Ought to Spencer. Spencer is
Speaker 2: one of the gang from Ontario Hydro that came up
Speaker 2: north for the wedding, and he's a huge baseball fan.
Speaker 2: So I've now got them. They both book marked the
Speaker 2: podcast we discussed. We discussed baseball for about twenty moues.
Speaker 2: He's been playing for about twenty years. It was a
Speaker 2: little shocked he'd never heard of us. But I got
Speaker 2: my I got my promo bit in rich. So good
Speaker 2: for you, b to Spencer, it was fun talking with
Speaker 2: you today.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's awesome. Hopefully got a new listener here,
Speaker 1: so welcome aboard Spencer. So Tim, I had had an
Speaker 1: interesting week. We had five inches of snow here on
Speaker 1: the beach in North Carolina that I sent Tim some pictures.
Speaker 1: The beach was covered with I mean, there was no sand,
Speaker 1: it was all snow. Totally weird.
Speaker 2: I am disappointed because I was expecting to see you
Speaker 2: and Laurie out making snow angels. No snow angel picks,
Speaker 2: rich like, come on.
Speaker 1: Part of the problem was it was five inches of snow.
Speaker 1: Can packed it down to about three inches of ice
Speaker 1: and snow, so there was no snow angels. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just fluffy stuff it was. It was you couldn't even
Speaker 1: make a snowman with it. It was no. It was terrible.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know you're getting the wind off the water.
Speaker 2: That probably packed it down a little bit as well.
Speaker 2: But I saw some of the temperatures. I'm hoping croussed
Speaker 2: my fingers that you didn't have any water problems.
Speaker 1: No water problems. It did get down to nineteen to
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen degrees one evening at temm me. The I
Speaker 1: mean the air conditioners or the air the heat pumps.
Speaker 1: They were making funny noises in it. But it made
Speaker 1: it through it. I mean I literally woke up at
Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning, going what's that? And it
Speaker 1: came down and literally was making a fun noise. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh boy, that's all we need. But everything made it through.
Speaker 1: And these houses in this environment, it's not made for
Speaker 1: this weather. I mean there's no snow removal, there's no
Speaker 1: there's snow salt, there's no anything. You literally have to
Speaker 1: look at your window and wait for Mother Nature to
Speaker 1: melt the snow.
Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, and there's a good reason for that, and
Speaker 2: that makes a lot of sense. The infrastructure required to
Speaker 2: be able to keep highways clean in bad weather, it
Speaker 2: costs a fortune. You need trucks, you need plows, you
Speaker 2: need storage for salt. It's you need employees, and you
Speaker 2: know what, for the number of snowfalls that you get
Speaker 2: every ten years, it's simply it's not feasible to provide
Speaker 2: what is needed to take care of it. So you
Speaker 2: basically have to just do your best to live through
Speaker 2: it and be careful while you're doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what we did. So you know, we
Speaker 1: made it through it. It's all melted. It's going to
Speaker 1: be sixty degrees tomorrow, so maybe things are getting back
Speaker 1: to normal. But uh, we head off, Yeah, we we
Speaker 1: head off to New Jersey on Thursday, so we'll be
Speaker 1: up there for the month of the month of February.
Speaker 2: So okay, and then you're you're back.
Speaker 1: We're back. Yeah, we're back after that. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: back until May. So that's everybody knows about my life here.
Speaker 1: If you want to catch me, you know where to go.
Speaker 2: I'll be. Yeah. I don't know what my blood type
Speaker 2: is either, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I use that line a lot.
Speaker 1: I was in a town meeting and one of my
Speaker 1: friends was nominated for some kind of committee and one
Speaker 1: of the commissioners had a problem with her and he
Speaker 1: was like, she's not that good. It was awful, Tommy.
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine in a public setting, just getting He
Speaker 1: did it in a nice way, but he wasn't He
Speaker 1: didn't want to vote for her, and it was awful.
Speaker 1: They wanted to know what herr her, you know, her
Speaker 1: qualifications were and there are other people better qualified. And
Speaker 1: at the end, I just said, so they didn't ask
Speaker 1: you what your blood type was, that's pretty good. So
Speaker 1: she laughed on me, what are you gonna tell so
Speaker 1: look exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, tell me. We've got We've
Speaker 1: got shortstop preview to do. We've got maybe we'll get
Speaker 1: to the Astros and A's but a couple of signings.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers strike again. They signed Kirby Yates right after
Speaker 1: signing Tanner Scott. So you're the Closer report guru. Does
Speaker 1: Kirby Yates steal some opportunities from Tanner Scott? Is it
Speaker 1: going to be split down the middle? How do you
Speaker 1: look at this?
Speaker 2: Well? I think my my narrative right now would be
Speaker 2: much like Oprah. Okay, remember on her show when she
Speaker 2: had those giveaways. You get one, and you get one,
Speaker 2: and you get one, everybody gets one. That's how I'm
Speaker 2: describing right now the Dodger's bullpen Rich. Everybody gets a save,
Speaker 2: everybody gets a prize, everybody's a winner. How does that sound? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I mean, I think trying to
Speaker 1: predict who's going to get the save opportunities, we just
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, who knows. I mean, Haven Phillips
Speaker 1: did a pretty decent job, but he had He's still there,
Speaker 1: isn't he?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still there. I'm just pulling it up right now.
Speaker 2: And one of the reasons, the rumored reasons that they
Speaker 2: approached Yates and signed him, was because Michael Kolepek was
Speaker 2: supposedly dealing with some armor issues and might miss a
Speaker 2: month or two. Well apparently Michael Kopek saying that might
Speaker 2: not be the case. But you know, they got Tanner Scott,
Speaker 2: they got Copeck, they got Blake Trin, and they got
Speaker 2: Evan Phillips, Alex Vessia had four saves by the way
Speaker 2: last year, and Kirby Yates. Now, how do you divvy
Speaker 2: that up? Obviously the first time you're playing the matchup game, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Scott's got Scott being the southbaw, yeah he'll get the opportunity.
Speaker 2: But you've got another southbaw on Vessia who's very very confident,
Speaker 2: and you get four Radis that have all earned saves.
Speaker 2: So everybody is there's some fine pitchers in there. If
Speaker 2: you're in leagues account holes, hey, all six of them
Speaker 2: are there. They should all be rostered. If you're counting
Speaker 2: on saves, look elsewhere, because it could be all over
Speaker 2: the place and probably will be.
Speaker 1: At least as we sit here at the end of
Speaker 1: January you just don't know. It's probably not gonna be
Speaker 1: until we see games beginning. Speaking of games, you brought
Speaker 1: up an interesting point last week because you asked if
Speaker 1: we were starting the season early. That's what you heard.
Speaker 1: So the regular season opens on the twenty seventh, which
Speaker 1: is the earliest that Major League Baseball has ever opened,
Speaker 1: So you were right there. But there's also a game, Yes, Timmy,
Speaker 1: I believe it's in Tokyo, the eighteenth and nineteenth, which
Speaker 1: is the Dodgers against the Cubs.
Speaker 2: Is that February or March?
Speaker 1: That is March, that is the middle of March. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: we're crazy.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have We're gonna have standings to look at
Speaker 2: for what a week plus before we get into the
Speaker 2: regular season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's great. And I just updated all
Speaker 1: of our leagues on fan tracks. I've now migrated everything over. Tommy,
Speaker 1: I typed in almost four thousand names because you have
Speaker 1: to type him in transfer going from CBS. It's a
Speaker 1: little easy thing. But by the end of it, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure who I was typing in anymore. So there's
Speaker 1: there is Remarkably, you learn a lot about the players
Speaker 1: in the in the pool. There is uh there who
Speaker 1: Josh autmant or or the Dodger guy James James Outman.
Speaker 1: By the end, I couldn't remember if it was James
Speaker 1: Autman or Josh Outman. So I added Josh Outman to
Speaker 1: one of the guys team instead of James because he said,
Speaker 1: why don't I have Josh Outman? I want James Outman.
Speaker 1: I'm going oops. I mean, it's just everything kind of
Speaker 1: just runs together when you're literally typing in that and
Speaker 1: that many names, but everything is in there.
Speaker 2: Totally excited, good stuff. When's your appointment with your optometriss
Speaker 2: by the way for new glasses?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it would I would do two or
Speaker 1: three out of shot and then just put it down
Speaker 1: and walk around and just kind of clear my head
Speaker 1: because again we're talking sixty five to seventy players per
Speaker 1: team typing all those puppies in, but now they're all in,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be able to use all the rules
Speaker 1: that are based in fan tracks and everything. So really excited,
Speaker 1: and because I'm so crazy, I started up two more
Speaker 1: Dynasty leagues with our Patreon members, so that's starting a
Speaker 1: week from Monday. We start our drafts there. So that's
Speaker 1: pretty exciting too. So all that all those people have
Speaker 1: been notified, just got to put it all together.
Speaker 2: Well I was gonna say, you's going to be some
Speaker 2: all busy for the next while.
Speaker 1: That is correct, So I got put together. I got
Speaker 1: to put together my rankings as well, because now I
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Speaker 2: So make sure one of our folks.
Speaker 1: It would be awesome. So actually when I sent out
Speaker 1: thee but I sent out the invite for the leagues,
Speaker 1: I said, look, maybe you should sign up for fan
Speaker 1: Tracks first, at least put yourself into the running for
Speaker 1: this this jersey. If you don't have a fan tracks
Speaker 1: id yet and then do the invitation. So hopefully people
Speaker 1: will do that. But it's a nice little giveaway, so
Speaker 1: hopefully that'll all work out.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So if not, maybe we can put together
Speaker 2: a jersey and sign it. Tim and Rich Right, I'm sure, Garry.
Speaker 1: The pament, Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure. So we had
Speaker 1: the Kirby eight signing, we had Tanner Scott and we
Speaker 1: talked about that. The other big signing was Jerks and
Speaker 1: Profar signed three years, forty two million dollar deal with
Speaker 1: the Braves. He had a breakout season at age thirty one.
Speaker 1: Last year. Hard hit rates went way up and he's
Speaker 1: one of the best in the leagues and controlling the strikes.
Speaker 1: But I mean his speed is now modest. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have the speed anymore. But on paper, Tim, he looks
Speaker 1: really really good.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, I think that for starters.
Speaker 2: Jared Kelnik does not approve of this deal. I think
Speaker 2: there could be there could be. I guess he might
Speaker 2: be still in the mix, but Brian Dela Cruz definitely
Speaker 2: doesn't approve. My concern with Profar is when I look
Speaker 2: at the numbers. Okay, he looked like he was heading
Speaker 2: for a breakout after his twenty nineteen season in Oakland. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he had twenty home runs, sixty seven RBIs. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: batting average was not great. Nine stolen bases to eighteen
Speaker 2: batting average. But from twenty nineteen through to last year
Speaker 2: he basically disappeared. A lot of it was health. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you're looking at seven home runs, four home runs fifteen nine,
Speaker 2: you know, and in two of those seasons he had
Speaker 2: asked more than five hundred plate appearances.
Speaker 3: Okay, I the difference, if I can jump in, if
Speaker 3: you look at the data, the power output of twenty nineteen,
Speaker 3: the data did not support it.
Speaker 1: Average ex of velocity in the twelfth percentile. Let's see,
Speaker 1: that would be twenty nineteen eighty six point seven. Last year,
Speaker 1: for some reason, it was ninety one point one mile
Speaker 1: hour x y. So that's up with the big boys him.
Speaker 1: And so that power looks somewhat real if you look
Speaker 1: at it on paper, Yeah it does.
Speaker 2: My I just have my growth brothers looking at players
Speaker 2: in their age, what thirty one season having a breakout.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's real, and we'll find we'll find that out
Speaker 2: fairly soon this year. But I'm going to shy away
Speaker 2: from investing in Profar simply because of what we've seen
Speaker 2: since his career got off the ground.
Speaker 1: And I not many people are buying it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's he is not going very early in drafts,
Speaker 1: but I mean I did a lot of research on it.
Speaker 1: And look, if you're strictly going by the data, he's
Speaker 1: a buy. If you look at the history, that's where
Speaker 1: the questions come. And I get it. It's like, how
Speaker 1: many years does he have to do it before you
Speaker 1: you think it's actually real or not? I guess there's
Speaker 1: no answer to that.
Speaker 2: Well, no, you're looking at thirty seven hundred and forty
Speaker 2: seven at bats in his career, of which you want
Speaker 2: to have about five hundred and sixty four of them,
Speaker 2: give or take. Yeah, and with the speed dwindling, it's
Speaker 2: just it's just a risk that again, it's something you
Speaker 2: should monitor see where he's going. There might be a
Speaker 2: by opportunity on him if he stays as a fifth
Speaker 2: outfielder type. But if he moves up to fourth, to
Speaker 2: a number four, number three, and starts moving up the charts,
Speaker 2: that's when I'd start getting concerned a bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think I was Reckon.
Speaker 1: He's the fiftieth outfielder off the board, so that's a
Speaker 1: number four outfielder going in the So would you rather
Speaker 1: have Jerks and PROFI or Cedric Mullins going at fifty one.
Speaker 1: I'll take Mullins Alec Burlison going at fifty two. OK,
Speaker 1: let's go the other way. Victor Robles I'm struggling with that.
Speaker 1: When Tim at.
Speaker 2: Forty one, I am as well. Yeah, I'm I Robless
Speaker 2: is definitely as struggleized. His profar for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean those are two guys, so much expected
Speaker 1: of both of them. Remember, I mean Victor Ropleys. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget about seven eight years ago when people were
Speaker 1: screaming at me I have I had Victor Robley's too
Speaker 1: low on the prospect list, and I created one that
Speaker 1: had Victor Robleys from one to one hundred.
Speaker 2: Domber I thought, I remember.
Speaker 1: That, and he was He's been terrible and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden last year he stepped it up. But
Speaker 1: the data doesn't sport anyway.
Speaker 2: So Jerks and Profiles, he's the same. There's nothing to
Speaker 2: support that there's any change. He kept You had a
Speaker 2: good year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Jerks and Profile at fifty or Elliott Ramos
Speaker 1: at forty eight Ramos, Tommy Edmund at forty seven, Edmund
Speaker 1: Taylor Ward forty six Ward. So you're thinking fifties about
Speaker 1: the right spot for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give or take. I might bump him down a
Speaker 2: little bit, but at fifty you're looking at a number four.
Speaker 2: I don't think i'd want I'd feel comfortable with with
Speaker 2: the profar as a number three. Yeah, I agree, there's
Speaker 2: just some heavy risk in there.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about what you started with. Is look,
Speaker 1: Jerry Kellenick when he was with the Mets. Yes, high
Speaker 1: end prospect. They traded him. I can't remember who they
Speaker 1: traded him for. I think it was the big deal
Speaker 1: where they took on Robinson Canoe's salary and they moved
Speaker 1: kelen out there and everybody went crazy.
Speaker 2: There was get involved in that as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was the big one. Was was Robinson Cano,
Speaker 1: I remember, And Robinson Cano never was the same player
Speaker 1: once he came to the Mets. But yeah, Kelenick never
Speaker 1: really turned out to be the guy that everybody thought.
Speaker 1: And he's been to a couple of other organizations. There's
Speaker 1: been some questions about makeup issues as well. So he's
Speaker 1: is he out of a job now?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, not according to their depths Jared's he isn't.
Speaker 2: But they do have Brian Delacruz, okay, sitting in their miners.
Speaker 2: Well they're bench, yeah, they're bench yeah, sorry, no miners, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're projected bench.
Speaker 1: So isn't Dela Cruz a better player?
Speaker 2: Uh? I tend to think so, yes. So I I
Speaker 2: don't feel overly comfortable right now with Jared Kellernick, No,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: So you got definitely got Michael Harris manning center field.
Speaker 1: Ronald Acunya at some point is going to be manning
Speaker 1: right field, and you know there's he's already out there running,
Speaker 1: so who knows about that. Then you've got it's got
Speaker 1: to be Profar taking the other outfield. So where's Jared
Speaker 1: Kallinick and or Brian Delacruze. You can't have both of
Speaker 1: them as your as your bench slot. So that's that's
Speaker 1: the way I look at I'm not sure Kellennick is there.
Speaker 2: Well right now they got Michael Harrison center field, Profar
Speaker 2: and left in Kellenick and right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But as I said, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: heard me, Ronald Acuna is back very soon.
Speaker 2: So yes, yes, yes he is. I think I'm hearing
Speaker 2: a month into the season now they're saying he might
Speaker 2: miss the first month. Uh.
Speaker 1: But you're at the draft table. Are you taking Kellnick?
Speaker 1: Are you taking Brian Dela Cruz.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not taking either one. I'll take probably of
Speaker 2: the two. I would take de la Cruz yep, as
Speaker 2: a as a bench slot, you know, as a reserve
Speaker 2: Bick in my draft. I'm just gonna avoid Kellennick.
Speaker 1: You've still got options left too, so he could get demoted.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, I'm just taking a look sort of cruise.
Speaker 2: Cruise has two? How many do one? Eh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I if I'm gonna stash one of the two, all
Speaker 2: stash Dola Cruz.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would as well. It doesn't feel
Speaker 1: good for Kellennick and maybe there's maybe there's some plan
Speaker 1: to move him or something. But he looks like the
Speaker 1: fourth outfielder to me.
Speaker 2: Trader mand Houston. They could use a couple, yeah.
Speaker 1: They could. Indeed, the last guy I want to talk
Speaker 1: about is Shotero Moury. The A sign him in the
Speaker 1: international market. He's only eighteen years old. This is more
Speaker 1: for dynasty leagues. It's a two way player. He hit
Speaker 1: forty five home runs in his senior year of high
Speaker 1: school and he can also throw ninety five miles an
Speaker 1: hour off the mound. What can you tell us about
Speaker 1: him beyond what I just mentioned.
Speaker 2: Not a whole heck of a lot. He's a young kid,
Speaker 2: very athletic point, so he passed on the draft in Japan.
Speaker 2: I think they had him slotted anywhere from five to
Speaker 2: ten okay in the first round. So he is a
Speaker 2: very much so a legitimate talent. I think one of
Speaker 2: the key reasons behind him signing with the A's is
Speaker 2: the opportunity. The A's are going to give me very
Speaker 2: every opportunity to play both ways, and I think that's
Speaker 2: a wise decision. The scouting reports i've read favor his
Speaker 2: hitting to his pitching as well.
Speaker 1: That's what I've read as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you know, there is no doubt that the
Speaker 2: hit tool is more developed right now than the pitching tool.
Speaker 2: But he can hit ninety five. That's not bad for
Speaker 2: a high school player. No, it's not an eighteen year old.
Speaker 2: There's some interesting potential there, but I think when you
Speaker 2: look at the at the draft and first year player draft,
Speaker 2: so you got to remember, he's eighteen years old coming
Speaker 2: out of high school. Where where do high typical, high end,
Speaker 2: high upside eighteen year olds go in a first year
Speaker 2: player drafter itge.
Speaker 1: Well, so eighteen years old is relatively old for high
Speaker 1: school player. So it was one and a half million
Speaker 1: dollars signing bonus, and he signed with the A's so
Speaker 1: that should so one and a half million dollars puts
Speaker 1: him probably in the top twenty or so in terms
Speaker 1: of money. So that's good. So you like that from
Speaker 1: a international signee. Not overall it's a week draft as well.
Speaker 1: It feels like a third or fourth round to me,
Speaker 1: with pressure downside, pressure because of who he signed for.
Speaker 1: To mean, let's face it, the A's do a crappy
Speaker 1: job at developing players, particularly these kind of kind of
Speaker 1: oddball kind of guys, two way players. Where do you
Speaker 1: put them? How do you know? They do a lot
Speaker 1: better with the Mason Millers of the world pretty much
Speaker 1: already developed, just Andrew Palm's Nick Kurtz of the world.
Speaker 1: This guy is a hitter, he's got power, don't mess
Speaker 1: with them, get him there. But guys that they actually
Speaker 1: have to develop, they don't do a very good job
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Everything I'm hearing is that uh uh, he's going
Speaker 2: to report for minor league spring spring training and probably
Speaker 2: move to the Complex League.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which which means June. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's he's definitely keen. He's taken English English
Speaker 2: classes already.
Speaker 1: Great. Uh.
Speaker 2: He's highly motivated and with the situation I believe as
Speaker 2: it is right now in Japan, if you forego the
Speaker 2: draft and sign, there's a three year waiting period if
Speaker 2: you want to go back. So he's got lots of
Speaker 2: motivation to succeed on top of the top.
Speaker 1: Well, for sure. I'm more talking, so I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to my message to Dynasty league owners. It's interesting, guys.
Speaker 1: Guys like this are fun to have on your minor
Speaker 1: league roster because it can go any kind of different way.
Speaker 1: Just remember, eighteen years old, relatively old for an international signee.
Speaker 1: Two million and a half dollars not in the big
Speaker 1: boy categories, a good amount of money. But tell me,
Speaker 1: write to me, let me know. The last time the
Speaker 1: A's have developed somebody that needs a lot of groomy.
Speaker 1: I don't know how better way to say it. They
Speaker 1: just don't do good at.
Speaker 2: That yeah, no, And I think all of that's fair
Speaker 2: when I I'm surmising here. But what I'm surmising is
Speaker 2: that the A's approached him with the idea that will
Speaker 2: let you do what you want, yeah, which is played
Speaker 2: both ways, and they will do that until at some
Speaker 2: point in time he can't, doesn't can't, It doesn't work.
Speaker 2: But I think that is the motivation behind him signing
Speaker 2: with the A's, and if so, I give the A's
Speaker 2: credit for making I think that's a smart approach to take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would probably grab him at a first year
Speaker 1: player draft in the third round. I probably make a
Speaker 1: run at that's again a pretty weak draft, pretty strong
Speaker 1: international draft or international sign but a pretty weak you know,
Speaker 1: kind of traditional draft that they had last July. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I go, maybe if I had, you know, if I
Speaker 1: got a really too high end prospects and I'm pitching
Speaker 1: at picking third in the draft and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: let me take this, let me take this crazy guy.
Speaker 1: See what happens. Maybe a good slot to take him.
Speaker 2: Or if you're in a situation where you've got a
Speaker 2: strong minor league system, sure, yep, yeah, yeah, why not? Yeah,
Speaker 2: But if you're eight years old, and there's he's saying
Speaker 2: that he wants to be ready in three years, and
Speaker 2: that's the right thing to say, but I don't think
Speaker 2: it's realistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's asking
Speaker 2: a lot. But may the kid's keen and he definitely
Speaker 2: has some skills. So I guess we just sit back
Speaker 2: and see what happens over the next couple of years,
Speaker 2: how he develops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a break to me, come back and
Speaker 1: let's talk shortstops, or as I wrote in my uh
Speaker 1: my spreadsheet, I sent you sure stop so I left
Speaker 1: out of te Sorry about that.
Speaker 2: That's okay. It's a joint effort this week, and I
Speaker 2: thank you for your assistance in helping me get her done.
Speaker 1: Rich, Yeah, I wrote, I wrote some of the text,
Speaker 1: all the ones that are poorly written that would be mine,
Speaker 1: that have a lot of data in it, that would
Speaker 1: keep mind as well. Wow, let's see, let's pick out
Speaker 1: one and read what I wrote. How about Dansby Swanson?
Speaker 1: You made me write that one. Yeah, he's a bit boring,
Speaker 1: but there are enough skills here for at least a
Speaker 1: fifteen to fifteen production, But the chance for twenty twenty
Speaker 1: is expected batting average was two forty four, and while
Speaker 1: he could post a two fifty batting average, I don't
Speaker 1: think there would be much more in the tank than that.
Speaker 1: That's what I wrote, is that? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, yeah, I got no problems at
Speaker 2: all with that.
Speaker 1: Here's another one, Zach Needo. I've wrote a lot about
Speaker 1: Zach Needo.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that narrative. It's fair.
Speaker 1: It was he was. I was thinking, oh, good good,
Speaker 1: I'm always I'm always happy when we're meshed together. Here
Speaker 1: he was rushed to the minor leagues and then got
Speaker 1: hurt in twenty twenty three. However, who had twenty three
Speaker 1: thirty on their bingo card last season? I didn't, And
Speaker 1: looking unless you did, I'm writing for you. I should
Speaker 1: have asked you we did, okay, And looking at the data,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of meth there. Poor bat speed and
Speaker 1: next of olasses. Don't pretend. Oh, how do you like
Speaker 1: that word? Timmy twenty five plus home runs, think more
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty. The sprint speed is in the seventy
Speaker 1: third percentile, so thirty solen bases might be a stretch.
Speaker 1: But I could see a fifteen to twenty player who
Speaker 1: hits two fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: Kay, there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I think that's a great, great evaluation
Speaker 2: of where zach Nito is. And again I think fifteen
Speaker 2: twenty is you know he's already bested that. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: how can you look at anything less with disdain? I
Speaker 2: don't think he can.
Speaker 1: No, So Tim, Let's I'd always like to I like
Speaker 1: to start off like trying to figure out how you
Speaker 1: want to approach short stop. It's I can tell you clearly,
Speaker 1: Tim is not approaching shortstop by drafting Xander Bogart's or
Speaker 1: Boba Schettus. This is a short stop that ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Good guess, Good guess.
Speaker 1: We'll get to them in a moment. But how are
Speaker 1: you approaching shortstop this season?
Speaker 2: Well, I think when I when I look at when
Speaker 2: I look at shortstop, I don't think there is any
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sort of approaching it on a on a take,
Speaker 2: take what you get sort of sort of situation. You know,
Speaker 2: as I mentioned in the narrative, you get you get
Speaker 2: five shortstop eligible players that are coming off the board
Speaker 2: in the first round, another two in the second. Okay,
Speaker 2: And I'm not pushing them down. I'm not ignoring them.
Speaker 2: If if if they happen to fit into where you're drafting,
Speaker 2: I think that's wonderful. They're good players. They're in the
Speaker 2: first two rounds for a reason. But at the same
Speaker 2: point in time, all away from you. You know, you
Speaker 2: get through that initial group of seven seven short shortstop
Speaker 2: eligible players, you get through that group, there's an other
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen that I like. Okay, so I think
Speaker 2: what you've got to do is look at your draft slot,
Speaker 2: and there is nothing wrong with taking Bobby Witt or
Speaker 2: Elie Delacruz or Gunner Henderson or lind or any of
Speaker 2: those guys. But at the same point in time, you
Speaker 2: don't have to because there are players that I like
Speaker 2: Volpe Tovar McClain. There are plenty of options moving down
Speaker 2: the draft as well. So basically I'm saying, take what
Speaker 2: the position gives you, and don't worry if you don't
Speaker 2: or you miss out on on elits sure stop, because
Speaker 2: there are options. The only thing I would be concerned
Speaker 2: about is once you get past twenty, there's a drop off.
Speaker 2: I'll say nineteen. Once you get to twenty, there's a
Speaker 2: drop off, and there are some serious question marks after
Speaker 2: that point in time. So for me, I want to
Speaker 2: own somebody in the top nineteen. I'm basically going to
Speaker 2: take it to way it falls.
Speaker 1: So I took it a slightly different for our Patreon memberies.
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Speaker 1: three sixty one. But I looked at the data and
Speaker 1: the first four or five guys are so damn good
Speaker 1: that it's it's I mean, look, if Ellie, Bobby, and
Speaker 1: Gunn are on the board, it's hard to take somebody else.
Speaker 1: And then those guys are elite.
Speaker 2: There's studs, but you know one Sorto was also in
Speaker 2: that mix too, and Tucker and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of good players available.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean I think it's tough to not
Speaker 1: take Bobby and Ellie, just those guys and and and
Speaker 1: then yeah, there's definitely some guys lower, but you got
Speaker 1: to be I think a little choosy about those. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't just take a guy because oh he had
Speaker 1: a good season last year. Because some of the data
Speaker 1: is a little wonky with some of those guys. So
Speaker 1: there's definitely guys lower that I definitely liked, and I
Speaker 1: did my draft and get any of them, so a
Speaker 1: lot of people like them as well. And I think
Speaker 1: Tim is right. Sometimes you know, best laid plans and
Speaker 1: it doesn't work and you have to adjust. So just
Speaker 1: make sure, I think this goes for all positions. Make
Speaker 1: sure you've got a plan and you've got sheet sheets
Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, I really want these guys on
Speaker 1: my team, but if you miss them, make sure you
Speaker 1: got some alternatives there that you're not just you know,
Speaker 1: you know, thrashing, and then you just go for the
Speaker 1: famous guy because you've heard of him before. That becomes
Speaker 1: a disaster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. You should always have a plan, A, B,
Speaker 2: and C and be able to modify and switch those
Speaker 2: plans on the fly. Otherwise you're going to end up
Speaker 2: with some people that you don't really like and paying
Speaker 2: for probably a price you don't really like for them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely there are lots of options right down
Speaker 2: to nineteen that I'm real happy with that. Hey, am
Speaker 2: I gonna pass up any of the new No, no, no,
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying if you don't get them, you
Speaker 2: get options this year short stop a fair number.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right there, but just back, I
Speaker 1: just pickle on something Tim said. And maybe this is
Speaker 1: overall drafting strategy. Maybe you're new to fantasy baseball, or
Speaker 1: maybe I haven't drafted for a year. You've just forgotten
Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world fantasy baseball. Everybody wants
Speaker 1: to win. I think we can safely say that. But
Speaker 1: you also want to have a good time, and the
Speaker 1: worst thing to do is to draft somebody on your
Speaker 1: team that you don't like, just because the book said
Speaker 1: this is how if you don't like a guy, if
Speaker 1: you don't like Elid like Cruise, do not draft Li
Speaker 1: Dela Cruise. It just don't do it, because there's nothing
Speaker 1: worse than a pit in your stomach. After you select
Speaker 1: the guy that you don't like and you go why
Speaker 1: did I do that? In your head? Gets you get
Speaker 1: at least I do. You get distracted because you can keep
Speaker 1: going by, damn it, why did I draft that? I
Speaker 1: don't like that guy? And then you're you have a
Speaker 1: bad time during the draft and you don't like your
Speaker 1: team and it's not good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at the same point in time. And Bobby
Speaker 2: Witch there when you're picking. If you don't like the Royals, tough,
Speaker 2: suck it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are certain players that you just say tough.
Speaker 1: Trust me on this. Take Bobby Wit Junior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hate you hate yours? Okay, you're a you're
Speaker 2: a Yankees fan. Okay, Yeah, take Gunner Okay, don't Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I do agree with what you're saying. There's nothing
Speaker 2: worse than having a team of players that you.
Speaker 1: Don't want, don't want.
Speaker 2: You got to live with that for seven months and
Speaker 2: look at now. If you win, that's that's a different story.
Speaker 2: But uh, there's only one in twelve or one and
Speaker 2: fifteen that's going to have that on the right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, look, that little voice inside you sometimes leads
Speaker 1: you wrong, but that's wisdom. That's your wisdom talking to
Speaker 1: everybody that your level of experience and playing the game
Speaker 1: and with a little voice is telling you no, no,
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: After four terrible seasons, okay, if you're betting on a
Speaker 2: turnaround in the fifth is going to take you to
Speaker 2: the promised Land, you're probably not gonna win that bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And if if Tim McCleod loves whatever
Speaker 1: player it is, and you hate him and you loved
Speaker 1: Tim McCloud, you think he's right on everything. Don't take him.
Speaker 1: Don't take the guy. Don't listen to Tim. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you truly don't like somebody, don't take him.
Speaker 2: You know, no, exactly in the fifth round, see if
Speaker 2: I care exactly.
Speaker 1: We reserve the right to make fun of you if
Speaker 1: you take bobached really, but look, if you don't like
Speaker 1: a player, please, by all means, don't take it. And
Speaker 1: Tim where's his puts his rankings out there for everybody
Speaker 1: saying he doesn't like Bobachett and Xander Bogart's. He's not
Speaker 1: going to take him. My guess is, even if they're
Speaker 1: still there when you know, when he late in the draft,
Speaker 1: he's spilled. Probably not gonna take Hi because he just
Speaker 1: he doesn't like Boba Schett. He chases after the first
Speaker 1: pitch every time. Tim doesn't like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, I've maintained that stance for four years,
Speaker 2: Come heaven or hell. Okay, I'm not that. Ain't changing Rich. No,
Speaker 2: let's carve carve that one in your kitchen table, folks.
Speaker 1: I thought, and I think people are trying to punk me.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes I'll get trade request of guys, of
Speaker 1: players that they know I despise, and I'll see and
Speaker 1: it's like my head explodes every time I see it.
Speaker 1: It's like, don't you listen to the show. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty vocal. I don't like this player? Why where
Speaker 1: you offered it to me? And I'm pretty sure it's
Speaker 1: just to get a rhymese out of me.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, when I see one like that, I usually
Speaker 2: chuckle and that's a very nice thank you know, then
Speaker 2: continued chucks.
Speaker 1: See you much nicer than me. I get angry. So anyway,
Speaker 1: so let's let's let's look at the first I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go the first uh six guys because it's pretty much chalk.
Speaker 1: You got Bobby Wood, La de La Cruz, Gonnor Henderson
Speaker 1: all all they are kind of going the first three guys,
Speaker 1: and Tim's got them same thing. He's got Mookie Bets
Speaker 1: and Francisco Lindor flipped, and he's got Trey Turner. So
Speaker 1: besides the flip of Francisco Lindor Mookie Bets, you're pretty
Speaker 1: much chalk with where these guys are going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's pretty well self explained, or you know,
Speaker 2: if you decide you like Gunner a little bit more
Speaker 2: than Ellie, I don't have any problems with you taking
Speaker 2: Gunner or ranking Gunner as the number two versus Oh,
Speaker 2: I think they're all very close. They're all going to
Speaker 2: go in the first what six to seven picks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say if you if you
Speaker 2: haven't to prefer Gunner, take them. The reason I've got
Speaker 2: Ellie in the number two slot is it's hard to
Speaker 2: argue with Yeah, thirty seventy potential. Now you're going to
Speaker 2: pay a bit of a batting average price, but man,
Speaker 2: when you start talking between home runs and stolen base,
Speaker 2: is a guy that's got the potential to hit triple
Speaker 2: 's Gunner doesn't have that definitely in those in those
Speaker 2: two categories.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I mean, I think there are guys
Speaker 1: that you take even though there could be some risk
Speaker 1: there with a batting average, because Elie de la Cruz
Speaker 1: hits the ball so hard, he's probably going to support
Speaker 1: a fairly high Babbitt and he's probably it's going to
Speaker 1: be tough for hit for him to hit under two
Speaker 1: fifty just because of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they're they're all great players. They all they
Speaker 2: all have different different charms, or some of them have
Speaker 2: different charms, but I think when you're looking from that group,
Speaker 2: they're they're all very very good players. If yeah, you
Speaker 2: got no reason to moan if you end up with
Speaker 2: with Mookie or Gunner instead of la Bah, they're elite players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of like your move with Lindor in
Speaker 1: front of Mookie. First of all, Mookie does have outfield eligibility.
Speaker 1: That's a big thing, particularly in draft and hold League's
Speaker 1: multi positional eligibility and that format. Everybody, trust me, I
Speaker 1: played every year and I don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: multi eligibility this year, and I'm a little disappointed in that.
Speaker 1: It helps because it's all about juggling your roster, so
Speaker 1: that that helps with Mookie Bets. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Every time I draft MOOKI bets early. I'm always I
Speaker 1: seem to get him on the just okay season, not
Speaker 1: the great Mookie Bets season.
Speaker 2: Well, and you look at Lindor and you know he
Speaker 2: game out one stolen base short of back to back
Speaker 2: thirty thirty season. I know, yeah, he's a good He's
Speaker 2: a good baseball player. He really is he. I would
Speaker 2: bet on Bets positively ending up with more home runs,
Speaker 2: but I don't think the stolen bases will be there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you like Lindor, I like Bets, vice versa or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm fine with both, but.
Speaker 1: I would take I would take Lindor over Bets every time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think odds are very good. If you're looking
Speaker 2: at Bets, you're looking at planning him in your oakfield
Speaker 2: will be my guess. That is the one edge that
Speaker 2: bets does have because, as we've mentioned before, outfields, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you need a boatload of them. In most fifteen Geen drafts,
Speaker 2: you're going to be looking at at least ninety to
Speaker 2: one hundred outfielders being drafted, and the last sixty of
Speaker 2: those come with some question marks. So I've got no
Speaker 2: problems all looking at bets in an outfield capacity. I
Speaker 2: think that's where most people will play them.
Speaker 1: So when I did the write ups for ten or
Speaker 1: some of the write ups, not all of them, I
Speaker 1: just had Baseball savanup as I was going through this
Speaker 1: and doing like little mini breakdowns a trade turner. I
Speaker 1: just said, the data is starting to show some wear,
Speaker 1: and I think that just is a guy who's getting
Speaker 1: a little bit older, and you know, just you start
Speaker 1: to see a bit of a turndown. The speed is
Speaker 1: still there, that guy as fast as blazes, but everything
Speaker 1: else is starting to show some a little bit of ware.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then again, would you be shocked if he
Speaker 2: had a twenty five forty two seventy five season.
Speaker 1: I say that, you said a bunch of numbers saying
Speaker 1: twenty five home runs, forty stolen basis.
Speaker 2: And what to seventy batting average.
Speaker 1: Well to seventy batting average, I would I'm not sure
Speaker 1: the powers there to support twenty five home runs. I
Speaker 1: wonder if he's going to be stealing the basis even
Speaker 1: though he's fast as much as he used to, just
Speaker 1: because maybe he's tired of it and he just doesn't
Speaker 1: control the strikes on it. He never has, and as
Speaker 1: the bat speed slows down, the babbit's going to slow down.
Speaker 1: And so I would be surprised. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: out of the question that he couldn't do that, but
Speaker 1: I would be a little surprised if you said twenty
Speaker 1: five to forty he's back squarely in the first round
Speaker 1: next year. That would surprise me a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about twenty five thirty that's a little more reasonable.
Speaker 1: How about twenty thirty? You good with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm good with that. He had twenty one
Speaker 2: last year, stole nineteen and he's about one hundred at
Speaker 2: bat shy, So yeah, I'm looking at historicle and based
Speaker 2: numbers over the past five years, thirty, twenty seven, thirty two.
Speaker 2: We'll skip twenty twenty and thirty five. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: twenty thirty I could see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's still a very good player. This again, just
Speaker 1: looking at the data is starting to show a little
Speaker 1: ware and particularly in Dynasty League startups or just Dynasty League,
Speaker 1: just know that Trey Turner is not the same guy
Speaker 1: he was four or five years ago.
Speaker 2: No, definitely, not definitely.
Speaker 1: You got Corey Seeger and CJ. Abrams eight and nine
Speaker 1: both up a slot, and then your buddy O'Neil Cruz
Speaker 1: down two slots, followed by Willie Adamas at ten. Chalk
Speaker 1: with the NFBC O'Neil Cruz, I'm just gonna have you
Speaker 1: remind everybody why you're a little negative on Cruise.
Speaker 2: Uh, how many strikeouts did he amass last year? Lots
Speaker 2: he swings and swings a lot, and yeah, he is
Speaker 2: going to produce some very very solid power numbers. I
Speaker 2: think we you know you're looking at. I think he
Speaker 2: could easily be a twenty five thirty type player, but
Speaker 2: he struck out one hundred and eighty one times last
Speaker 2: year and five forty. I I think if you can
Speaker 2: get a two fifty batting average other than you're doing well.
Speaker 1: And this is the last season he shorts up eligible too, right?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yes, I believe so.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wrote the I wrote the write up and
Speaker 1: I talked about the crazy bat speed and power and
Speaker 1: speed or enormous upside. The fly in the ointment is
Speaker 1: he swings at everything and doesn't always hit things when
Speaker 1: he does swing. Know your parameters?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Why if I read that and I thought,
Speaker 2: well done, Rich, that's yeah, there's there is risk there
Speaker 2: of a little betting average, but I think the home
Speaker 2: runs and stolen bases will be solid. So I've moved
Speaker 2: him down a little bit because I don't think we
Speaker 2: have to the same extent that problem with Corey Seeger
Speaker 2: and c j Ams, especially Corey Seeger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Corey Seeger. If he can stay healthy, it's big promise.
Speaker 1: He's not been able to stay healthy. There's a big
Speaker 1: boy power there and a Neil Cruise. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's it's a guy that could really blow up. And
Speaker 1: if you told me that next season he does whatever
Speaker 1: you said about Trey Turner thirty forty or something like that,
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't surprise me at all, and is
Speaker 1: kind of a poor man's led de la Cruz. I
Speaker 1: could definitely see that he's got that kind of he's
Speaker 1: got that kind of talent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does the rb I numbers in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're such a Pittsburgh hater.
Speaker 2: Let's let's take him by John Dean. Yeah, I'm all
Speaker 2: in with.
Speaker 1: Well, John dinas old us he is not a Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Pirates fan. He I think if there's new ownership then
Speaker 1: then he's all back on board. But he is. He
Speaker 1: is boycotting that's the right word, the Pirates until ownership changes.
Speaker 1: And I have to respect that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, But I think he's still you
Speaker 2: know he you know, he he counts Brian Reynolds, Okay,
Speaker 2: to put himself to sleep. There's there's a here we go.
Speaker 1: That's tim. I'm I'm with John Deane on this. Just
Speaker 1: take a take a break, come back and finish, continue
Speaker 1: on with the program. Here, I'm going to suggest eleven
Speaker 1: through twenty is where Tim is going to be fishing
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of guys that he likes in
Speaker 1: this area. They're they're ranked higher than you can get
Speaker 1: him in the NFBC. UH Number eleven is Anthony Volpi.
Speaker 1: We've've already talked a little bit about that, Ezekiel Tover.
Speaker 1: Tim has got a statue of that in this front lawn.
Speaker 1: As we all know from last season, Matt McClain next
Speaker 1: and Mason Win, Dancy Swanson and Jeremy Pama and Zach
Speaker 1: Needo all much higher than what is going in the NBC.
Speaker 1: And he finishes it off with Xavier Edwards, Tyler Fitzgerald
Speaker 1: and Trevor's story. Remember him tell me he used to
Speaker 1: be really, really good. Let's start with Trevor's story.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, what do you think?
Speaker 1: I mean? What I mean? Are you drafting him because
Speaker 1: he used to be good and you think it's all
Speaker 1: going to come back to him? He hasn't played him forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a year or three? Yeah, hey the least.
Speaker 2: But when I look at the options after him on
Speaker 2: the list. I think that's about the right spot for
Speaker 2: Trevor's story. Okay, you know, going further down, you know,
Speaker 2: Cavallero you're talking all speed, Bolgert you're talking all nothing.
Speaker 2: And buchett Yeah, we'll see. I'll save my rant On Buchette.
Speaker 1: I gave you a rimshot on the bow, Bashette, a
Speaker 1: lot of nothing. That's very well play.
Speaker 2: You know, pass On Kim after him? He when is
Speaker 2: he going to be back? You know we're hearing after
Speaker 2: the first month, we've seen one turn into two, turn
Speaker 2: into three. Okay, Willie Castro, I'm not a huge fan
Speaker 2: of I think the run scored and stolen bases are real,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of unreal in there, and then
Speaker 2: you're into Dylan Moore and Raffaeli. There is a drop
Speaker 2: off at shortstop, okay. And twenty for me is a
Speaker 2: magic number because if Trevor's story is healthy, I can
Speaker 2: still see him being a top twenty type player. Now
Speaker 2: you're gambling on the health, but I think the skills
Speaker 2: are such that he could sneak into that top twenty.
Speaker 2: I don't think the rest have that capability below him,
Speaker 2: So that's why he is where he.
Speaker 1: Is, Anthony Volpi. Does he get a boost because he's
Speaker 1: projected the bat lead off?
Speaker 2: Definitely? You know last year, if I'm not mistaken, he
Speaker 2: scored ninety runs. Yeah, that ain't bad. He hit twelve
Speaker 2: home runs.
Speaker 1: But can he stay in the leadoff position?
Speaker 2: Yes? In that lineup? What are their options are they?
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge in the leadoff spot?
Speaker 1: You know, I was about to say that, and I
Speaker 1: knew you would criticize me for and you should. But
Speaker 1: I mean, that is an on base percentage machine that
Speaker 1: probably would fit well at the leadoff. But he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna bat second, which is probably appropriate. And I guess
Speaker 1: you don't want some guy that can hit sixty home
Speaker 1: runs getting seventy five RBIs That would seem pretty stupid.
Speaker 2: So yeah, right now they got chiselm in the two spot.
Speaker 1: I think that's a mistake. I know that's what Ross
Speaker 1: Resource is saying. I think Judge is your number number
Speaker 1: two hitter, Tim.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh sorry, cut out there for a second. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: you want Cody Bells. You're hitting two, three, four. They
Speaker 2: got currently the gold mandating in the four. But you know, Stanton,
Speaker 2: I just this is what I this is Mike, this
Speaker 2: is my dream.
Speaker 1: This is my dream. Jason Dimingez gets out of the
Speaker 1: gates really strong and he becomes your leadoff guy. And
Speaker 1: Volpie they almost switched spots, and Volpi's at the back
Speaker 1: of the of the lineup and Jayson Dimingez is at
Speaker 1: the top of the line of Demingus is faster, it's
Speaker 1: more of a dynamic player. And Vope's a very good player.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I think that we haven't seen
Speaker 1: the best of Anthony Volpi. But I mean he's he's
Speaker 1: not a walk machine. He's not a high average guy.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure it's a guy that you want
Speaker 1: at twenty twenty four years old, battan at the top
Speaker 1: of the lineup and Dimingas is twenty two, So I
Speaker 1: mean there's there's there's risk there as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you move Volpi down to the
Speaker 2: bottom of the lineup, I think he's still going to
Speaker 2: head ten to fifteen home runs. I think he's still
Speaker 2: going to scale thirty bases. He might only score seventy runs, okay,
Speaker 2: and the batting average took a big jump up from
Speaker 2: two nine to two forty four last year. He's young
Speaker 2: enough that I want those accountables from him this year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want the home runs and stolen bases, and I
Speaker 2: think he'll deliver on those. That's so I've moved him up.
Speaker 2: But I like him a little bit more in the NFBC.
Speaker 1: Matt McClain too down on that. That's just because of
Speaker 1: Opie and probably somebody else. So it's almost where he's
Speaker 1: going in the NFBC. Another guy that did not play
Speaker 1: last season, much younger obviously than Trevor Surry, is a
Speaker 1: lot more unknown. Is this a guy that he's just
Speaker 1: going to pick up where he left off from twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three or you think there's going to be some
Speaker 1: rust that needs to be knocked off?
Speaker 2: Well, he had He played the full AFL season, didn't he?
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken he did, that goes a long
Speaker 2: way in my mind, and knocking some of that rust off. Okay,
Speaker 2: I haven't heard any cancers or any problems with the
Speaker 2: shoulder during that rehab. He's the type of player that
Speaker 2: I've seen enough of I'm willing to take a chance
Speaker 2: on in you know, in the yeah, thirteen to fifteen,
Speaker 2: somewhere in that range.
Speaker 1: I was just looking for his stat line in the AFL,
Speaker 1: and I don't see any.
Speaker 2: It's got to be there somewhere. Both mcleans were there,
Speaker 2: so they should both be in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not in the Baseball Reference which usually shows that.
Speaker 1: So let's see Arizona Fall League twenty twenty five stat.
Speaker 2: Line AFL stats.
Speaker 1: See what we got here. Arizona's there? You go, all right,
Speaker 1: let's see. Yeah, I did the Top one hundred Prospect
Speaker 1: podcast this afternoon.
Speaker 2: Tim, Yeah, I saw that, well done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, so that's out for everybody. It's actually
Speaker 1: out today. People want to go take a look at that,
Speaker 1: all right, So who are we looking for? McLean McClain. Well,
Speaker 1: not on the first not on the first page. So
Speaker 1: let me see McClain mc la. It's by home runs,
Speaker 1: so let's do it by let's do it by average.
Speaker 1: Well that's twenty twenty one. I went twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Jose Tinny was the top and batting average member, which
Speaker 1: that's pretty interesting in twenty twenty one people. Yeah, people
Speaker 1: forget that. Okay, So that's I don't see Matt McLain
Speaker 1: on the first page, other Sean McClain on the second page. Okay,
Speaker 1: Matt McClain on the third page. No, there is no
Speaker 1: Matt McClain. So did he play in the Fall League?
Speaker 2: I saw him unless I was hallucinating, Okay.
Speaker 1: All right, so we'll have to look him up and
Speaker 1: see that. If he played in the floor. Whatever he did,
Speaker 1: it wasn't much productive because he's not on any of
Speaker 1: the on the top lists. So anyway, just FYI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, No, I was positive I saw
Speaker 2: him in there. Amateur college miner and false stats.
Speaker 3: Okay, Glendale, Yeah he's on the Glendale yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty nine. Yeah, he hit four homers, drove in twelve,
Speaker 2: baded to forty with eight seventy six ops, played thirteen games, all.
Speaker 1: Right, so thirteen games is not obviously a small sample size.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's very He did hit four homers and
Speaker 2: survived it. All things that are good. If healthy, We've
Speaker 2: seen enough for him that I think he can be
Speaker 2: the player that he was prior to the injury.
Speaker 1: Slaughtered in okare nexus Mason Win? Big fan of Mason Win, Tim,
Speaker 1: And it looks like you are as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big time. And hey, I know we're heading into
Speaker 2: spring training and I know it's time for everybody to
Speaker 2: claim that they're going to have seventy home runs and
Speaker 2: steal sixty bases, and Wins jumped in that he wants
Speaker 2: to run more this year, with his goal to steal
Speaker 2: between thirty and forty bases. Yes, I like Mason Win,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna believe him for now that he does
Speaker 2: want to run more. If he can get into that
Speaker 2: thirty forty base stolen base numbers with moderate power, I
Speaker 2: think he could move up the charts fairly quickly. He's
Speaker 2: still a very young player. He's only twenty three.
Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I mean, obviously recency bias.
Speaker 1: You know that Jordan or Walker is still Jordan.
Speaker 2: Walker, right, Yeah, it's Jery Longer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still kind of had that really nice debut
Speaker 1: and then obviously fell off, fell off the truck, and
Speaker 1: he's been terrible since. I be surprised if we see
Speaker 1: that with Mason Win.
Speaker 2: I would as well. And if he does fall off
Speaker 2: the truck somewhat, his arm will keep him in the
Speaker 2: lineup every day.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Defensively, yes, he's definitely.
Speaker 1: Got more defensive power than Jordan Walker had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I can't. I think I migrated this is this is
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to dwell on this fan tracks thing again,
Speaker 1: but I migrated four leagues over. Jordan Walker is out
Speaker 1: of minor league eligibility. He has more than three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty at bats on every CBS roster he was
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues, and it's just like ah, and
Speaker 1: now he's going to be properly in He'll be in
Speaker 1: the in a bench spot, and now to be interesting
Speaker 1: to find out if people want to keep him, you know,
Speaker 1: as one there's seven bench slots. I like that thinking
Speaker 1: as opposed to hiding him in the minor leagues, which
Speaker 1: was illegal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Saint Louis is going to
Speaker 2: make They've said they're going to and I sort of
Speaker 2: believe they're going to give him a good opportunity this year,
Speaker 2: and I think cutting him now would be a full paw.
Speaker 2: I'd want to see a little bit more from him.
Speaker 2: That's my thoughts.
Speaker 1: But at the end of twenty twenty five, is he
Speaker 1: hasn't produced, It's I think it's going to be some
Speaker 1: soul searching time, right.
Speaker 2: It's going to be some deep soul searching. Yeah, very much,
Speaker 2: so I agree him.
Speaker 1: Dancy Swanson and Jeremy Pinya are next. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: both on the boring side, but they're both pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My problem with my problem with PAYNYA when I
Speaker 2: look at the numbers and I think I'm a little
Speaker 2: bit low on PAYNYA compared to actually I'm high, which
Speaker 2: I'm sort of surprised at. But man, he only walked
Speaker 2: twenty five times last year, that is correct, in six
Speaker 2: hundred at bats. He's still you know, the strikeouts were
Speaker 2: down to one hundred and eleven. But I just have
Speaker 2: you know, when you look at that OBP, I just
Speaker 2: have trouble looking at supporting a two sixty six batting average.
Speaker 2: I think at some point in time is going to
Speaker 2: come down a little bit. And I think the OBP
Speaker 2: is a bit of a drag as well. You know,
Speaker 2: he got up to twenty stolen bases, hit fifteen home
Speaker 2: runs last year. I'm just not buying that batting average.
Speaker 1: That's fair. I have the rest of it. The rest
Speaker 1: of the data suggests the rest of it's very repeatable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this Swanse Swanson's Yeah, I agree, it's it's Swanson.
Speaker 1: Is he's born. He's good though, I mean, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I've had to ask a Swanson in a couple of
Speaker 1: dynasty leagues and with other good shortstops. I just have
Speaker 1: a you know, a lot, he's not He's not been
Speaker 1: playing as much in these leagues, and I've been trying
Speaker 1: to move them, and nobody wants Dansby Swanson. They do
Speaker 1: not want them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that he's boring.
Speaker 1: He's boring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, limited their upside potential, right yep.
Speaker 1: But as if you get caught out from a shortstop standpoint,
Speaker 1: he's not a bad guy. That can get you at
Speaker 1: least fifteen to fifteen with some upside in there. I've
Speaker 1: never understood what they hate of Dansby Swanson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I to be honest with you, I haven't either.
Speaker 2: I think he's a rather safe pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's not Trey Turner, but I mean he's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And when you look at the players around him, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know, you got Matt McLain, We don't know. I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be fine. We got Mason Wynn, who's
Speaker 2: gonna steal a pile of bases he's never stolen before.
Speaker 2: We got Jeremy Paineia that couldn't spell walk if you've
Speaker 2: splugged him the first four letters. Zach Needo has a
Speaker 2: challenging hit toolm Xavier Edwards has no power. So a
Speaker 2: safe pick in there does have some charms. I think
Speaker 2: it does.
Speaker 1: And it's tough to win a league when everybody's high upside, right,
Speaker 1: because somebody's not gonna there's gonna be more than just
Speaker 1: one guy that doesn't meet what you think the upside
Speaker 1: is going to be.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you know when you look at this group,
Speaker 2: Xavier Edwards is the guy. He can move up the
Speaker 2: charts very very quickly because he stole thirty one bases.
Speaker 2: Tolf Season has a good, decent hit to him. I'd
Speaker 2: be very surprised if Xavier Edwards isn't rising over the
Speaker 2: next month. But again, there are question marks there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but guys are stealing bases. I mean, Jeremy Paine,
Speaker 1: who's got good speed, he stole twenty bases. That's the
Speaker 1: first time he's ever done that.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's correct. Yeah, you can get.
Speaker 1: By, but a lot of guys is stealing ten, fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty bases. Because you can get a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of those guys now and be just fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you certainly can. You don't need fifty stolen bases,
Speaker 2: but it's also nice to have, right.
Speaker 1: So Tyler Fitzger, I mean I missed on him. I
Speaker 1: did not have him ranked erry high as in the
Speaker 1: minor league. I think nobody really did. And it's timmy.
Speaker 1: He was really good as a twenty seven year old.
Speaker 1: And is this repeatable? Is this fifteen home run seventy
Speaker 1: stolar basis? Can he do this again?
Speaker 2: I think he can. I think he finally got a
Speaker 2: legitimate shot today every day, and he took full advantage
Speaker 2: of it. So I say good for Tyler Fitzgerald. Tyro
Speaker 2: Astratta probably doesn't agree with me. But and again that's
Speaker 2: that's a big thing when you're looking at Fitzgerald right now,
Speaker 2: he's got a short sto of eligibility. He's gonna be
Speaker 2: playing in second base full time. So he's going to
Speaker 2: get that eligibility in the first week of the season
Speaker 2: or in the first two weeks at the worst, depending
Speaker 2: if it's five or ten game eligibility. I can see
Speaker 2: the potential for a twenty to thirty type season from Fitzgerald.
Speaker 2: Holy Crow, holy Crow, He Hitteen home runs a happy year.
Speaker 2: He stole seventeen bases from White, He could hit twenty
Speaker 2: home runs, steal thirty bases. I think, I think that
Speaker 2: that is the type of potential. It's there.
Speaker 1: So wait, wait, wait, just take a liquor bed. Hold on,
Speaker 1: Let's let's look at the data first to see how
Speaker 1: crazy you are. You might be spot on. Let's take
Speaker 1: a look.
Speaker 2: Here and see how my degree of insanity.
Speaker 1: Gosh, he's fast one hundred percentile on sprint speed.
Speaker 2: He is very fast. I don't think the thirties totally
Speaker 2: out of the range.
Speaker 1: Not sure the power is there though, heart it rates
Speaker 1: thirteen percent. Average exa velocity is eighty seven point seven.
Speaker 1: I would be unless he's got a lot of leverage,
Speaker 1: which he's got a ton of launch in a swing
Speaker 1: twenty degrees. Wow, that's where that's where he got all
Speaker 1: of it. So tons of strikeouts thirty one point seven.
Speaker 1: So it looks like he traded contact for power, which
Speaker 1: a lot of people do. But it got him to
Speaker 1: the big leagues at twenty seven for twenty six, so
Speaker 1: you have to be happy with him. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: change that to eighty. Batting average is expected. Batting average
Speaker 1: is two twenty one. That is more, and that's what
Speaker 1: I would have thought looking at the launch angle, the
Speaker 1: lack of hard hit rates, and just yoking everything else,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna suggest that the struggle is going to be
Speaker 1: with his batting average.
Speaker 2: I think that's more than fairer. And when you look
Speaker 2: at my narrative, I miss batting average, go figure. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be there's gonna be a challenge there. But
Speaker 2: if he can hit twenty home runs fifteen to twenty
Speaker 2: home runs and steal thirty bases, you can live with
Speaker 2: the two twenty batting average.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna suggest that it looks like it's fifteen ish
Speaker 1: type of home run popping. I think he can seal
Speaker 1: as many bases as he wants. I mean, he's one
Speaker 1: of the fast this guy's in the league. Is you
Speaker 1: know how many times he's going to get on base?
Speaker 1: And that's of question. I mean, because he doesn't walk
Speaker 1: a lot, he strikes out a lot. And you know
Speaker 1: what brought you to the show, that's that's what he's
Speaker 1: going to go with. So yeah, that's going to give
Speaker 1: him the door. Right, So I think it's no your
Speaker 1: parameters just if you if you want cheap speed and power,
Speaker 1: it's going to come at a price. Of your batting
Speaker 1: average correct, Yes, and definitely you're on base percentage. Because
Speaker 1: what worries me long term with this guy is he's
Speaker 1: going to be a sub three hundred on base percentage
Speaker 1: and then that's going to bring into question does he
Speaker 1: get full time at bats?
Speaker 2: But I think if you look at him as a
Speaker 2: second baseman, ver say, not a shortstop, I think that
Speaker 2: changes things a little bit because, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: second base thinned a little bit, didn't it?
Speaker 1: Yes? It did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's intriguing, I for sure. Yeah, at his current
Speaker 2: adp of what is it two, you're looking at mid teens.
Speaker 2: I'll roll the dice. I'll roll the dice in the
Speaker 2: thirteenth to fifteenth round on Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in twenty twenty three. I love the fact that
Speaker 1: fan grabs finally put a summary in for the year
Speaker 1: so you actually don't have to add them all up.
Speaker 1: Good on them. So twenty two home runs and thirty
Speaker 1: two stolen bases in twenty twenty three, and then in
Speaker 1: twenty and twenty two it was twenty one home runs
Speaker 1: and twenty stolen basis. So I mean he showed speed
Speaker 1: and power. It's just terrible bat the ball.
Speaker 2: Skills, well yeah, and the timing okay, he was blocked
Speaker 2: by Estrada and Estrada was playing well.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: What do you do. You keep hoping for your break.
Speaker 2: And he got a legitimate shot last year and he
Speaker 2: took advantage of it. So I like Tyler Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: Three eighty three eighty babbitts. So yeah, anyway, just know
Speaker 1: your parameters send me. I take a break, and then
Speaker 1: let's get to the all hate section of the program.
Speaker 2: My favorite.
Speaker 1: So we see all these guys at Tim likes a
Speaker 1: lot more than the NFC. So at some point you've
Speaker 1: got to meet the guys that he doesn't like us much,
Speaker 1: and this is where we meet them.
Speaker 2: Yes, welcome to the Tim McCleod, I hate getting a
Speaker 2: Christmas card from you list.
Speaker 1: So hose cabiliis still Tim likes sim He's at number
Speaker 1: twenty one. Xanna Bogart's fifteenth in the NFC, going twenty
Speaker 1: second with a great Tim mccleoud and Boba Schett next
Speaker 1: at twenty three. Tim Hashim at twenty three. He's going
Speaker 1: as a thirteenth shortstop off the board, a robust ten
Speaker 1: slots behind where the NFC is Carlos care is somewhat
Speaker 1: chalk next at twenty four, Hassan Kim interesting there. I
Speaker 1: think both of you, the nfbc's adyp's are suggesting. What
Speaker 1: Tim is suggesting is we don't know how much he's
Speaker 1: going to play. Willie Castro down three, Tim has got
Speaker 1: him at twenty six. NFBC has got him at twenty three.
Speaker 1: Dylan Moore Saddan Rafael that Tim hates Saddan Raffael because
Speaker 1: he doesn't make enough contact. And Isaiah Cone faloffa at
Speaker 1: twenty nine and Brayon Rochio, Tim likes him a little
Speaker 1: bit more. It's interesting because Tim doesn't really like Brian Rochio.
Speaker 1: Se I means he doesn't like the other guys after that.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna leave Rocchio because who cares about him.
Speaker 1: Let's talk Xander Bogarts and Bobaschett's expound moment.
Speaker 2: Please, basically, you know, third or fourth versus the same
Speaker 2: as the first. It's look at Bogart's numbers. Twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: was a long time ago. As I mentioned in my
Speaker 2: second base analysis, I yeah, he's not running or it
Speaker 2: maybe maybe he is running, but I just don't see
Speaker 2: anything there that motivates me to want to go early
Speaker 2: on Xander Bogart's you know the power. Okay, he had
Speaker 2: eleven home runs last year, eleven home runs, he stole
Speaker 2: thirteen bases. Okay, it was only in four hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty eight at bats, you know, two sixty four, three
Speaker 2: oh seven on the average and OBP. But you know,
Speaker 2: you go back to twenty twenty three and he was
Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen, okay, with a decent batting average. But if
Speaker 2: you look, he hasn't come anywhere close to twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: eleven homers twenty three, fifteen, nineteen eleven. I've just sort
Speaker 2: of had enough with Xander Bogartz. I think right now
Speaker 2: he's a ten to fifteen home run type. I think
Speaker 2: he's ten to fifteen stolen bases, and there ain't a
Speaker 2: whole lot of RBIs. He hasn't bested eighty RBIs since
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, when he had won seventeen what was his
Speaker 2: big year again, twenty nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm not even to look at the I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna look at the home runs and pops. But
Speaker 1: the average EXI velocity is seventy six percentile ninety point
Speaker 1: six mile an hour exit velocity. It's been a slow
Speaker 1: grind down for him since twenty twenty nine, eighty nine,
Speaker 1: eighty eight point one, eighty seven point six, eighty eight
Speaker 1: point one last year. This is a guy that's getting older.
Speaker 1: He's losing bat speed and the power is dwindling. Oddly enough,
Speaker 1: he's still got average speed, so there's still little speed
Speaker 1: left in them. But as the as the bat speed
Speaker 1: slows down, the babbit's going to get lower. It's batting
Speaker 1: average is on a is going to fall because of that.
Speaker 1: He's just an older player, tim at thirty two years old.
Speaker 1: He might be a little older than thirty two, if
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll bet the Farman then so that he
Speaker 2: doesn't finish as a top fifteen shortstop.
Speaker 1: I there's nothing in the data that would suggests that nothing.
Speaker 1: And it was a terrible It was a terrible sign
Speaker 1: of the padres. I mean, he should he should uh
Speaker 1: name his yacht after his his agent's child or something
Speaker 1: because he got a great deal. Because it's it's not
Speaker 1: going to end well for Xander Bogart's.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it is either. And bull bashd
Speaker 2: you've you've you've heard since that big breakout season my
Speaker 2: thoughts on BULBASHD and he's not running okay.
Speaker 1: Last last I looked at sprint speed as like terrible.
Speaker 1: It was forty nine percent. He's not fast, He's not
Speaker 1: all that fast him.
Speaker 2: No, you know, four homers, five strolen bases, Like, I
Speaker 2: don't get it. He's having trouble last year, he had
Speaker 2: trouble staying on the field of three years before that
Speaker 2: though six hundred and forty at bats that was his
Speaker 2: big year. Then he went to six fifty two and
Speaker 2: everything dropped off marginally in twenty two twenty twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: and it took a rather serious plunge again down in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three until we got to last year where
Speaker 2: he was hurt. I don't see it. I And on
Speaker 2: top of that, he's in his final year in Toronto
Speaker 2: and there's been speculation he's not really happy in Toronto.
Speaker 2: So to me, it just adds up to stay stay
Speaker 2: away from Bubashit this year. Hey, I hope he rebounds
Speaker 2: to his prior form, but I just don't see how
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So I would be shocked. This is just me speaking
Speaker 1: at twenty six years old soon to be twenty seven,
Speaker 1: that his bat speed has fallen off like it appears
Speaker 1: like it has. I think last year was more of
Speaker 1: a I'm hurt year. But prior to that, I mean,
Speaker 1: he still had enough power to hit twenty home runs.
Speaker 1: So I would expect twenty home runs to come back
Speaker 1: into the fall, particularly in a walk year. He would
Speaker 1: hope for that. The stolen bases, I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: a speed guy anymore. It's five to ten stolen bases.
Speaker 1: That's that's what it looks like.
Speaker 2: And but where does that separate him from Carlos Carrea.
Speaker 1: Let's let's get to that in a minute. But and
Speaker 1: he Carlos Kray has got a much better hit toll,
Speaker 1: much better hit tool, much better and Boba Schett. As
Speaker 1: Tim has said over and over and over again, he
Speaker 1: never walks. He's got one of the worst chase rates
Speaker 1: in the league, and he swings at everything. In other words,
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff adds up, particularly when you
Speaker 1: don't have any batsman, which clearly he did in the
Speaker 1: last season because he was probably hurt. I think we
Speaker 1: see a bit of a bounce back. I would I
Speaker 1: would rather have Carlos Korea than Bobaschett, particularly if I
Speaker 1: get to get Bobachett, where don I have to get
Speaker 1: him in the draft in the eleventh round? And I
Speaker 1: can wait, I'm sorry, yeah, tenth round. That's I was
Speaker 1: looking at that, and I can get where can I
Speaker 1: get Carlos Karray in the seventeenth round? Please please give
Speaker 1: me Carlos Korea every day of the week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Diylam Moore in the thirty third round. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can look at picking up Fitzgerald, Trevor Story, Xavier
Speaker 2: Edwards for the for the speed, Zach Niedopana. All those
Speaker 2: guys are available prior to or before Bova Schetz. So
Speaker 2: to me, it's an I gotta bump them down.
Speaker 1: I'm totally supportive of that. But I do think it's
Speaker 1: not going to be five home runs. I think if
Speaker 1: he's fully healthy, he's gonna hit more than that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what the data would suggest.
Speaker 2: So I agree. The other mitigating factor is, you know,
Speaker 2: do the Jays trade him, do they play him? What
Speaker 2: what happens with the intangibles? Yeah, that further adds to
Speaker 2: the to the question marks. And yeah, I hey, I
Speaker 2: hope he gets it back. I would love to see
Speaker 2: him at twenty five home runs as a Jay this year,
Speaker 2: drive in ninety and steal fifteen bases with a two
Speaker 2: A batting average in a three thirty OBP. But everything
Speaker 2: I says.
Speaker 1: No, I can't believe that's gonna happen. But that would
Speaker 1: be shocking. I think you asked me it would it
Speaker 1: be shocking. I think was Tray Turner what you just
Speaker 1: said would be shocking because that's Bobashett of twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: nineteen or whenever he first came up, And I ye,
Speaker 1: that player doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 2: So I agree, Uh.
Speaker 1: Saiddan Raphael, let's just talk about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look, I mean, he another guy that just absolutely swings
Speaker 1: and everything. But he's got he's got good speed, powers
Speaker 1: a little bit manufactured because it's all leverage. But I
Speaker 1: mean he did hit some home runs last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he definitely hit home runs. He definitely stole
Speaker 2: some bases, but he struck over a ton And how
Speaker 2: do you walk only four times in the second half? Like,
Speaker 2: how was that even how was that even possible?
Speaker 1: It's hard to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is. And the Red Sox have got
Speaker 2: some kids that aren't that far off. I really think
Speaker 2: we're gonna see Rafael move into a fourth outfielder position.
Speaker 2: I think it could happen this year. I think it
Speaker 2: will happen under the gate. But I think last year
Speaker 2: he got in five hundred and forty four at bats.
Speaker 2: I'll definitely take the under this year. It's one of
Speaker 2: the under under.
Speaker 1: It's one of the worst baseball savant charts you'll ever see.
Speaker 1: So just don't even look at it. It's it's ugly,
Speaker 1: it's it's all blue. I mean, it's just, I mean,
Speaker 1: one of the worst in walking, worse and expanding the
Speaker 1: sprigs and chase rate, strikes out a ton, below average power,
Speaker 1: below average bats. He's fast, that's yeah. So I think
Speaker 1: the stolen bases will be there, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: But I don't know power. It's all pull side power.
Speaker 1: It's a ton of launch. Yeah.
Speaker 2: If they move Christian Campbell into the oatfield.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think saddan Rafael by the end of the season.
Speaker 1: I'm one thousand percent in agreement with you. He will
Speaker 1: be a fourth outfielder, a pretty damn good fourth outfielder
Speaker 1: because he's a great defender. But he is but as
Speaker 1: an offensive player, man, there's not a lot to like.
Speaker 2: Agreed totally.
Speaker 1: I he was. He never walked in the minor leagues either,
Speaker 1: so it's.
Speaker 2: Not like this is something that's just coming out of
Speaker 2: the blue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so don't overdraft Saddan Raphael is with timys Townian.
Speaker 1: I am in full agreement with mister McLeod on that.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like another break come back and we're
Speaker 1: gonna start bopping around a little bit. We've already gone
Speaker 1: an hour and fifteen minutes. Geez, Luise thirty one. JP Crawford.
Speaker 1: I drafted JP Crawford on my draft and hold because
Speaker 1: I needed a you know, an extra shortstop, and I
Speaker 1: was pretty happy with the pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as an extra shortstop, you should be happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you use him as an extra shortstop, it
Speaker 2: means he gets no wood beats on your team.
Speaker 1: That's what I am hoping for. But I'm probably I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure he's going to get some playing time. Now,
Speaker 1: that's the way it works. Let's see Jacob Wilson.
Speaker 2: Eh, yeah, it's yeah, he's got a job.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I yeah, it's just yeah, he's got a job.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's just not from there, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not much singles. Yeah, David David Hamilton is down fourteen,
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming the thinking there is he's going to
Speaker 1: lose his job.
Speaker 2: That's the train of thought that I'm going with. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not going to play a shortstop. If your ever
Speaker 2: story's around, and as soon as Campbell is deemed ready,
Speaker 2: where's David David Hamilton, he becomes their super stuf and
Speaker 2: he could be a very good super sub Okay, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's I don't see. I'll go three hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: at bats maybe yeah, yeah, anything.
Speaker 1: There with Luis Angela Kunya. He's got the name, obviously,
Speaker 1: the famous name. He played really well when he came
Speaker 1: up for the Mets. But how in the world does
Speaker 1: he get any playing time?
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the problem. I like, I like the skills,
Speaker 2: I like what we saw, But Jeff McNeil's at second
Speaker 2: and Francisco Lindor is it short? Uh playing time? Can
Speaker 2: you slide over to third? Maybe with Brett Beatty that
Speaker 2: you know again, it's it's possible. In the outfields, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, he might get some advats in center field
Speaker 2: for Siri okay, but there's just so many question marks.
Speaker 2: I can't do anything. I just didn't feel right doing anything.
Speaker 2: The skills are warranting that he could be a top
Speaker 2: thirty player, but right now I just don't see it
Speaker 2: sorted out enough so he gets enough at bats to
Speaker 2: make it to make a difference. He's the sort of
Speaker 2: guy that you'll have on your team, and you'll have
Speaker 2: him on your bench because he played two games a
Speaker 2: prior week and they'll put him in and he'll play
Speaker 2: six that week and then to the week after when
Speaker 2: you activate him again. And because for constant frustration, if
Speaker 2: there's an injury to McNeil or Lindora, yeah there's opportunities
Speaker 2: or Brett by Beattie to totally fails. Yeah, but right now,
Speaker 2: playing time could be tough.
Speaker 1: I feel that way about all the Mets prospects. It's
Speaker 1: really tough if you're Drew Gilbert, your Ronnie Maurisio is
Speaker 1: coming back from that awful injury that he had in
Speaker 1: the Winter League last year. I mean, the Mets have
Speaker 1: said now we're going with old guys, and we're going
Speaker 1: for it now, and it's there. I don't see how
Speaker 1: these guys get playing time any of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I barring injury, I think it'll be a struggle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Trey Sweeney's at forty one, he's chalked with that
Speaker 1: forty one going. His ADP's at forty one as well.
Speaker 1: And then how your bias is sitting down there at
Speaker 1: forty nine fifty four? Why do I have this feeling?
Speaker 1: And it's all it is is that Lenny Melnick, I
Speaker 1: have a feeling that how your bias is going to
Speaker 1: find something that he's going to come back and be
Speaker 1: not as awful as he has been.
Speaker 3: Yeah, vague, there's nothing that, there's no data that supports
Speaker 3: that statement.
Speaker 1: It's just it's hard to believe he's that horrible.
Speaker 2: It's called Yeah, it's called a gut feeling. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: perfectly fine to have that gut feeling. And if you
Speaker 2: draft him and move him up to where Tray Sweeney is, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's still forty at these seasons. Yeah. And the reason
Speaker 2: that they're both down that lows. I think they're going
Speaker 2: to share. I think they're going to share playing time.
Speaker 2: And you want either one of them if they're getting
Speaker 2: three hundred three hundred at bats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I hope that Javier bay is kind
Speaker 1: of because that guy still has great batspeed. There's skills there.
Speaker 2: He just.
Speaker 1: He's bailing it in to me. I'm sorry, he's unwilling
Speaker 1: to change his approach at all, and he's letting some
Speaker 1: You know, Tray Sweeney, he's an okay player. He's a
Speaker 1: better talent still at his age of what thirty two
Speaker 1: than Tray Sweeney is. But I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: ever going to just change his approach so he can
Speaker 1: actually stay back on the ball a little bit. And
Speaker 1: it's I think he's his worst own, worse enemies, and
Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's ever going to change.
Speaker 2: Well, he's going into his age thirty three season. That
Speaker 2: doesn't help the call for change much, doesn't.
Speaker 1: No worse signings than Tiger history.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, it's up there.
Speaker 1: That's terrible. Anybody else you want to talk about here?
Speaker 1: Late Jordan Lawler, Well.
Speaker 2: Jordan Lawler intrigues me. I've got him up fairly, fairly high,
Speaker 2: two spots below Perdomo, but really.
Speaker 1: You got him. He's even gone higher from an ADP standpoint.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, and Perdomo is down. I can I can
Speaker 2: see the rash now behind that move. I think Perdomo
Speaker 2: is going to have the job for the first three
Speaker 2: to six weeks, and if Lawler plays to his potential,
Speaker 2: he'll be called up and take the job and run
Speaker 2: with it. And that's just I think the way it's
Speaker 2: going to be. But right now Perdomo's got the job,
Speaker 2: so I have to put him a little bit higher, because, hey,
Speaker 2: Jordan Lawler could struggle at Turplea, couldn't he We don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to stay healthy, and yeah, he's the
Speaker 1: better piece, the better talent, so you would help at
Speaker 1: some point he's going to take the job, and I
Speaker 1: think he's going to be very good once he gets
Speaker 1: the job.
Speaker 2: But I do as well, But there's enough questions there
Speaker 2: right now I have. I have trouble moving him up
Speaker 2: much higher than that, because he could, in theory, he
Speaker 2: could sit in the minor Stilly All Star break.
Speaker 1: Yep. Hey, for those of you that you know Tim Scott,
Speaker 1: Zach mckinzry down at forty five and you're in a
Speaker 1: draft and whole league and you're way at the end
Speaker 1: of the draft. Take take Zach McKinstry. Yeah, because he
Speaker 1: plays everywhere. I did really well on my ain FBC
Speaker 1: team last year and mckentry played more than I wanted to,
Speaker 1: but it was a warm body and honestly, at the
Speaker 1: end of the season, to me, I was thrilled that
Speaker 1: I drafted him.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I think you should be because he
Speaker 2: will you know, same with Edmundo Sosa. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that they are never going to be top thirty type talents.
Speaker 2: But in that draft and hold, what you need is
Speaker 2: you need enough bodies to be able to deal with injuries,
Speaker 2: and those are the type of the only reason I
Speaker 2: have romy Gonzalez down a little bit lower because I
Speaker 2: got the three of them group together, and they're group
Speaker 2: together for the same reason, all multiple eligibility and then
Speaker 2: drafting holes that counts. I maybe should have bumped up
Speaker 2: Videl Brujan, but I just don't see his for him
Speaker 2: as I do for the other three.
Speaker 1: Is he and the Cubs now, yeah, exactly, he's moving.
Speaker 1: He's moved four or five, at least three teams that
Speaker 1: I'm aware of. All right, Timmy, let's start, Let's take
Speaker 1: a break and come back and ask you the hard
Speaker 1: questions and let's get out of here.
Speaker 2: How's that sound Okay, sounds good?
Speaker 1: As always said, a wonderful job here, really really detailed work.
Speaker 1: And as we talked about it a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: Tim literally goes through and types in every one of
Speaker 1: these names from scratch and orders them the way he
Speaker 1: wants too. So this is his work for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's great draft PREPP for me. And that's
Speaker 2: one of the reasons that I go through all at
Speaker 2: detail because it forces me to look back and and
Speaker 2: see what Dylan Moore did last year, because off the
Speaker 2: top of my head, I didn't have a roster anywhere.
Speaker 2: I don't know see what Willie castro If you just
Speaker 2: say just type them in, you don't do that sort
Speaker 2: of work, then you're missing out on a big part
Speaker 2: of your your draft PREPP. If you're doing it yourself,
Speaker 2: I would recommend that, yeah, go to each individual players
Speaker 2: and take a good look, because you'll find some surprises
Speaker 2: out there, you really will.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard to keep up with all this teaming
Speaker 1: team the players are moving teams and like you're sitting
Speaker 1: there going, wait a minute, who's that second base with
Speaker 1: the White Sox? Now, who you gotta look that stuff up?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, exactly, because right now, if you ask me,
Speaker 2: I probably couldn't tell you off the top, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know Bobby with Junior. Everybody knows Bobby Wood Junior,
Speaker 1: he's going to be really, really good. So the first
Speaker 1: couple of rounds are easy. It's it's the one after
Speaker 1: that where you know you've really got to be smart
Speaker 1: about it. So Timmy Hard questions who in the who?
Speaker 1: Which player not in the top ten has a chance
Speaker 1: to emerge their next season.
Speaker 2: There's a whole whole mess of the album. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go with Mason, my love for Mason Win.
Speaker 1: I love that love there, I love it. I love
Speaker 1: that pick. All right, so he moves up. Let's see
Speaker 1: which guy can't be somebody that loses eligibility? So does anybody? No,
Speaker 1: I think they'll all have shortsup Ellen, who gets who?
Speaker 1: True drops?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Neil Cruise continues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Neil Cruise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, give me give me a shocker, a shocker, yeah, CJ.
Speaker 1: Abrams, Yeah, if that's too much of a shocker, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see anybody else above that moving out
Speaker 2: of the top ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if with Junior, Ellie and Gunnar Henderson and
Speaker 1: Francisco Lindorth, those guys had a bad season, probably point
Speaker 1: to an injury because they're just yeah, they're just so.
Speaker 2: Goody knockmoogie, and you know, hey, if Trey Turner really
Speaker 2: really struggles, he could drop out of the top. You know,
Speaker 2: you can't rule it out, but I would be very
Speaker 2: surprised if that in fact happened.
Speaker 1: All right, let's win. The next question is what everybody
Speaker 1: wants to know. Give me a couple of sleepers. You
Speaker 1: can give me more if you want. Okay, a couple
Speaker 1: of sleep Mason Wynn has got to be one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, except I don't know if he's uh, he's up
Speaker 2: fairly high even in the NFBC at twenty one.
Speaker 1: Twelve round though.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I believe Tyler Fitzgerald will out produce his
Speaker 2: current twenty two off the board in the NFBC. So
Speaker 2: I'll put him in there, Okay. Brian Rochio always I've
Speaker 2: never been a huge fan, but there's something there that
Speaker 2: says to me, there could be a little bit more
Speaker 2: than what we're seeing.
Speaker 1: Well, let's hope so, because he's barely a major league
Speaker 1: baseball player besides his.
Speaker 2: Glove, yeah, besides the glove. But when I looked at him,
Speaker 2: I was sort of surprised at some of the numbers,
Speaker 2: and because I thought they were going to be worse. Okay,
Speaker 2: but he had eight home runs, stroll ten bases last year,
Speaker 2: scored fifty runs. Okay, me walked walk grades weren't great,
Speaker 2: but he did walk forty four times in three hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty three at best. Okay, I'm not ready to
Speaker 2: write Brian rocho Off, I certainly would. You don't have
Speaker 2: to move him up the ward, but he intrigues me.
Speaker 1: If I may, If I may, I've been a big
Speaker 1: Brian rochio fan. I'm declaring I was wrong. There's absolutely
Speaker 1: no power. I mean none. Hard hit rates one percentile
Speaker 1: average x vlosity two percentile part of bat speed seventeenth percentile.
Speaker 1: He makes great, he makes good contact, He walks a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, chase rates a little below average. But I
Speaker 1: mean there's no power. The thirty five percentile and sprint speed.
Speaker 1: He looks like a singles hitter to me.
Speaker 2: Tim, what what about Marsall mayor?
Speaker 1: You know that dude needs to stay healthy. If he
Speaker 1: stays healthy, he's a good defender. I think there's going
Speaker 1: to be power, a little bit of speed early in
Speaker 1: his career. But if he can't stay healthy, and it's
Speaker 1: been it's been brutal the last couple of years. I
Speaker 1: saw him play live. I thought he looked really good,
Speaker 1: and I still like the player, but he's dropped on
Speaker 1: my top one hundred and if Trevor Story has a
Speaker 1: good season, I think the Red Sox are going to
Speaker 1: be good. He signed long term. I don't see it
Speaker 1: in Boston working for Marcella may Or. He could be
Speaker 1: a guy they trade at the deadline for some pitching help.
Speaker 2: True, what about Colson Montgomery? We are your thoughts there.
Speaker 1: I like Colson Montgomery this season because I'm putting my
Speaker 1: channeling and my Tim McCleod thoughts here because I think
Speaker 1: he's going to get a shot. Who's the shortstop? And
Speaker 1: for the White Sox?
Speaker 2: H Now, there is a good question, one that is
Speaker 2: going to require me to use the amazing skills of
Speaker 2: my hyper fast computer that is spitting it up. Actually,
Speaker 2: it just shows the Chicago White Sox. The whole page
Speaker 2: is blank. That's weird.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got Brooks Baldwin.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, he was okay last year. I think
Speaker 1: Colson Montgomery is the guy they want to take the role.
Speaker 1: Last two years he's played in the Fall League. He
Speaker 1: was hurt in twenty three last year just was okay.
Speaker 1: I think he's an okay long term asset. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a star by any stretch, but I think
Speaker 1: he's better than Brooks Baldwin. And I think I think
Speaker 1: the White Sox, at least my conversation, that's who they
Speaker 1: want to see in that playing shortstop for them by
Speaker 1: mid season.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, you know who surprised me, actually shocked me.
Speaker 2: Uh was Ernie Clement. I again, I watch a lot
Speaker 2: of the Jays games, and I sure didn't see all
Speaker 2: that much, but you know what he had for a
Speaker 2: two sixty three average. He had twelve homers, stole twelve bases.
Speaker 2: He's got you know, he should have playing time. Uh.
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting that level of you know, productivity of
Speaker 2: Ernie Clement. Not that I'm suggesting that everybody goes out
Speaker 2: and immediately gets on an Ernie Clement bank.
Speaker 1: And that's where that was about. What I was about
Speaker 1: to suggest, is that what you're suggesting, mister.
Speaker 2: Mcwell, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was just
Speaker 2: surprised when I looked at the numbers, I thought they
Speaker 2: would be worse than in fact they were. Now that's
Speaker 2: sort of a back ended compliment, but yeah, I think
Speaker 2: the one guy that everybody, from what I can gather,
Speaker 2: most people are investing in in red draft leagues. Hey,
Speaker 2: I have Jordan Lawler on your bench. Mm hmm, make
Speaker 2: him one of your thirty picks. Don't wait, don't wait
Speaker 2: till he gets called up. You don't want to make
Speaker 2: that mistake and spend four hundred five hundred bucks a
Speaker 2: year fab when your draft is over in a redraft
Speaker 2: fifteen team redraft league, Jordan Lawler should be on somebody's team.
Speaker 1: My three guys that I would be targeting and probably
Speaker 1: draft and hold leagues. Uh well, Jordan Lawler would be
Speaker 1: a guy in a traditional league that I would want
Speaker 1: on my bench. I think Lawler, I think still a
Speaker 1: seventy runner. I think there's something there. Coles Montgomery would
Speaker 1: be a guy that I draft and a draft and
Speaker 1: hold league. As I said before, I think he gets
Speaker 1: a chance. And the last guy, look, this is a
Speaker 1: dicey one, so it's only draft and hold is Carson
Speaker 1: Williams plus defender with the Tampa Bay Rays. He's a
Speaker 1: plus defender strikeout, I mean snus speed and power. He
Speaker 1: strikes out way too much to just know that going
Speaker 1: into it. But there are fantasy, very loud fantasy tools there,
Speaker 1: and there are I mean, does when does Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: bring him up? I mean, you tell me to him?
Speaker 1: I mean nobody knows, right, I mean, if he signs
Speaker 1: a team friendly, Dealey's probably up the first day of
Speaker 1: the season. But if he doesn't, and there's no telling
Speaker 1: when he comes up.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you look at the raised roster. Okay,
Speaker 2: right now, they got Cavaliero sitting on the projected bench. Okay,
Speaker 2: they got Taylor Wolves a short stop.
Speaker 1: He's not that good. He's a good defender. He's not
Speaker 1: that good though.
Speaker 2: No so, but again, can Cavallero play short?
Speaker 1: It's well he did, he did before Taylor Wallace came back.
Speaker 1: He was playing short. But I thought that Taylor Ward
Speaker 1: when when I thought he'd get that role from Cavalira
Speaker 1: just because he's the better defender. And that's how the
Speaker 1: Rays like the role. Here's my concern about the race.
Speaker 1: I mean, after Junior Caminarrea, they don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of ump in that in that lineup. They they're gonna
Speaker 1: need some guys, and I think Carson Williams is a
Speaker 1: guy that can help them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I I won't disagree with you. I just don't
Speaker 2: know how they're going to do it. And yeah, hey
Speaker 2: they got ELOI, okay, they got all the power they need.
Speaker 1: Well, that's right, I forgot about ELOI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's I'm dedicating myself to other than Junior Caminaro.
Speaker 2: I'm in some of the pitching and not chloride. I'm
Speaker 2: dedicating myself to not having very many of the ray's
Speaker 2: rostered because you just don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: You know, you got a full time is now a
Speaker 2: part time badge. You got a guy coming off the bench,
Speaker 2: you're substituting, You're playing the matchups constantly. I don't that
Speaker 2: causes me angst, and I'll have enough angst ah itself.
Speaker 2: I don't need bonus angst.
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, Timmy. That is a wrap, my friend. My
Speaker 1: computer is starting to run low on power, so I
Speaker 1: do not want us to run out of power and
Speaker 1: lose the entire podcast. But this has been great. Thanks
Speaker 1: again for uh. We'll be willing to do this at
Speaker 1: least seven of my time six your time, so maybe
Speaker 1: it's not that late for you, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, I'm just glad we got it done. We
Speaker 2: got it out there for our listeners. I know it's
Speaker 2: always it was a pile of fun. Thanks for filling
Speaker 2: in and getting So I have a.
Speaker 1: Question for you before you if you get out of here.
Speaker 1: So when's the next draft for you?
Speaker 2: When's the next draft for me? Actually, it will be
Speaker 2: the first year Player Draft for d L five and
Speaker 2: there's a first year player draft for Rotal Masters. Those
Speaker 2: two my next I'm just trying to think the one
Speaker 2: that Kang Doo runs for the Facebook page, the draft
Speaker 2: and Hold Draft and Hold that's coming up the middle
Speaker 2: of February. But it looks like we've got a date
Speaker 2: firmed up and I've been invited back to partake in
Speaker 2: labor this year. At the end of February, that'll be
Speaker 2: That'll be my next big draft, I believe.
Speaker 1: And when's when's talt Wars that's in that That one's
Speaker 1: in March, I believe a week after that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so the industry stuff starts towards the end
Speaker 2: of February beginning of March, just shoring up all the dates.
Speaker 2: But I'll be playing them both again this year and
Speaker 2: very very excited to be doing such. I have cut
Speaker 2: back a little.
Speaker 1: Time. Tis time to step up to.
Speaker 2: McLeod I'm has been just Labour's been okay. I think
Speaker 2: Labor's went okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eat your Whaedi's before you go into that tout
Speaker 1: Wars draft next next time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I need more than weeds.
Speaker 1: Alcohol, good stuff, Timmy, thank you so for what. Hopefully
Speaker 1: next week we'll be doing third Base. Eventually we will
Speaker 1: get to these fantasy questions of the al West. They
Speaker 1: continue to be on our notes, but we never get
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 2: So maybe we should do them first one of these sessions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll be here for two and a half
Speaker 1: hours now, I don't think so, so Tommy be well,
Speaker 1: my friend be saved.
Speaker 2: We well catch you next week