Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly
video game show here at gig Versus. I'm your host
still mus and I have with me grand Theft Taylor. Hi,
are you do internet? My friend doing very very well.
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's been another hot minute since I've
been on side Quest with you.
Speaker 1: So true. I feel like you guys always say that
every time, and I'm like, I think it's pretty equitable
when I put you guys on here. I don't know,
I don't know if that's true, but maybe it's been.
It was Bolivian and Alvin didn't come with that.
Speaker 2: Wee oh yeah, it was like last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much? Pretty much? Uh yeah, well we you know,
we do. We do a lot of recordings, so I
feel like sometimes, yeah, it does feel like, oh I
haven't been on side Quest, but it's only because I've
done fifteen other episodes since the last time I was on,
just because of how much stuff we do. I guess
that's maybe that's part of the reason why it feels
that way. But today's episode should be a fun one,
maybe a little short, and so we will see what's
going on here. But we have a g T six
trailer to break down as well as Gears War reloaded,
maybe some of the games we've been playing, little Xbox
discussion in there as well, So I think we can
kind of get right into it here. Let's start out
with a little GTA. Well actually, sorry, one quick shout
out before we can get into GTA. Last week, Polygone,
the video game news website, was bought by some big, nefarious,
scary megacorp and they fired like almost everyone at Polygon,
and it seems like they're gonna turn Polygon into like
an AI like you know, regurgitating headline kind of thing.
Well just too bad, like Polygon, Like you know, I
don't really go to these sites very often, so I'm
probably part of the reason why a lot of these
sites get shut down is because like the traffic's lower
and whatnot. But like, I don't really go to sites
very often, but I usually do when I'm like okay,
side quest. I don't have a lot on the topic
side of things. I know, like sauce to boost this up,
And Polygon's like always the place where I get whether
it's just like coverage of a news story or like
something a little bit more interesting or something a little
bit more niche. I really like their you know, outside
of the just news stuff, but just some of like
the I don't know what creative journalistic pieces they did too,
And yeah, it seems like that's probably just not going
to really exist anymore. There's still a few people on
the team still making stuff, but I just don't know
what the quality of Polygon is gonna be like going forward.
So maybe it's a little bit really to say rest
and peace for a site that still exists and still
has some employees. But it's really sad to see just
how much that got decimated, and there's been so much
of that recently. I don't often bring some of that stuff,
you know, we talk about some of the layoffs and whatnot.
But Game Informer had that weird case where it shut down,
but then like the team bought the rights back and
then brought Game and four backs that sites back up. Now,
Giant Bomb was also part of this purchase. It's like
a podcast slust news thing, and then those employees like
they closed it and then the employees like bought the
rights to it's like Giant bombs back. So all this
weird stuff happens. Who knows what the future of Polygon
will be. But I just wanted to say that's a
real bummer, really sad, and yeah like that. I think
that'll have a very small effect on like side Quest,
just in terms of like the things you see us
talked about here. So I often go jan I just
does so much that it's like it's hard to find
like Juicy Nuggets because they're just spam everywhere. And then
these other sites, they're okay, and I like some of them,
but even another one I used to use, twin Finite
back in the day, just turned into like just spamming
like a million top ten lists every day and it's
like unusable. So I just I feel like every month
or year, like these video game websites kind of get
more and more scarce. So you're you're Nigan guy, right,
that's usually where you go for your your game.
Speaker 2: Usually I'm usually n I got my Facebook Top Fan
badge following.
Speaker 1: Wait, how do you how do you get that? What is?
Speaker 2: You comment like once on their posts and they give
you this badge.
Speaker 1: It's it's nothing, one one post and you get a
top fans.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like it's one one post.
I've got top Fan badges for so many groups.
Speaker 1: So wow, that's that's that's too easy. That's like a
participation award, Like that's exactly a little bit more. Okay,
let's talk about let's talk about Grand Theft Auto here
before we get into this trailer. I I just I
feel like it's been a bit since we really talked
about GTA, probably because like no new game has come
out like Geek First era pretty much. Taylor, can you
just remind me, like, what is your full history with
this whole series, going back to like the first one
you played? First memory kind of leading. I know you're
a big GT five guy, but like give me the
whole story leading up to GT five and now you're
I guess your hype leading into six. Man.
Speaker 2: My first time with GTA was GUTA four. I remember
during high school go to my friend's house and just
being able to go to the airport, getting helicopters flying around.
I just I was blown away at how freeing this
game was.
Speaker 1: Just what you could do, it was incredible.
Speaker 2: You just do anything, do whatever you want, and it
was just it was a lot of fun for a
kid in high school. And so it was shortly after
that I went to eb Games and picked up and
I still have it on the original Xbox San Andreas.
I think it was Vice City and GTA three and
I played the Daylights out of sant and Dres because
all my friends are telling me about how it was
such a great game. I absolutely love sant Andres. It
was so much fun. And I did buy four eventually,
but I didn't play much of the story. I just
bought it just to muck around and have fun with.
But then GTA five was coming out and I wasn't
gonna get it. My friends they're like, oh, we're getting that.
This is gonna be huge, and I was like, okay,
I'll go to the midnight launch with you. And the
lineup was huge, and that's where I had my UFO experience.
Actually was at the midnight launch for GT five, but
I was in line, I thought, okay, you know what.
By the time I got up to the front of
the line, I was like, I'm gonna drop some coin
and buy it. And I remember playing the appisode of
Daylights Out of that game. Oh my god, I was.
I was. I was clocking in like ten hour shifts
playing playing that game, sometimes back to back daily because
I wasn't in school anymore. We have, you know, tons
of free income. You're living at home with your parents.
You're in that sweet spot where you've just graduated and
you aren't old enough to what you are old enough
to be on your own, but you're not in any
rush to be on your own. Like that was. That
was a sweet time. And yeah, holy crap, I remember
when that game was single player for the first and
then the online online rolled out shortly after. I remember
there were so many problems no one could get online,
and when you finally did get online, like your progress
might not be said it was an absolute nightmare. But
I had an absolute blast, and there were so many
bugs and glitches you could exploit on just getting so
much money and everything and in closing, like I managed
to sneak up to level two hundred and four, And
I'm so mad that I didn't take the opportunity to
migrate my character online to next Gen when I had
the chance. I wish that I did so I could
go back and indulge in that. But it doesn't matter
now because we got the next GTA coming. So yeah,
oh and yeah, shout outs. Our crew was the chalk
outlined rebels. That was me and my friend's crew.
Speaker 1: The outline rebels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when you have like a crime victim
or on the ground and you chalk around you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys made that name or was that
like one of those random Xbox names that you can generate.
Speaker 2: I can't remember. I can't remember what if I feel.
I want to say we made it up, but I
don't fully recall.
Speaker 1: A while ago because when I hear chalk, I I
think of like that would make you like a cop,
But then you're the rebels and you were obviously not
a cop. Well maybe, I guess do people do r
RP as like cops and stuff the G two line,
But you were not. You were not a team of cops.
You were you were rebels. Yeah, you're keeping your name
ambiguous to the cops. You know, didn't sniff your trail.
Yeah yeah, so so you know, knowing GT six here
is back in Miami, and stuff like Vice City is
not one you've ever dabbled in. You ever played the
original time that GT was here?
Speaker 2: I have, I have Vice City, but I didn't I
haven't broken into that one. I haven't even broken in GT.
A three When I bought the three with Santa and Dres.
I just invested all my time in Santa DRIs. That
one was the one that I fell for.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, for me, I think that the story
is mostly similar to you. As a kid, I do
remember playing a little bit of Vice City, like probably
less than five hours. I think that it was like
on PSP. If not, that's just like a weird false
memory I've created, but I seem to remember like just
playing at a friend's house and then yeah, Gt. San Andres,
that was always one that was like it was very
taboo for me to play it at my age, so
it'd always be like, oh, I was at a friend's
house and they have an older brother and their older
brothers playing San Andreas. And then eventually later on, like
my friend next door had it, so i'd play it
there a little bit, and like San Andres had like
a split screen co op you could do. I remember
doing that, like flying around with jetpacks and just kind
of messing around in this world. So but even San Andres,
like I've never owned the game, and I've only I've
probably played less than ten hours of it in my life,
so pretty foggy on like the details of those games,
although I've watched like a bunch of speed runs of
San Andreas and other streams and things like this. But yeah,
those games, you know were kind of just these taboo
like I could never own them, but it was always
a cool experience when I got to play them. Then,
for whatever reason, I've just like not gone back as
an adult to like revisit these games, probably in part
because of that GTA trilogy they released was such a
like such a I don't know, they just pooped it out,
like they put seemed like they put very little effort
into that trilogy remake and just looks really weird and
all that. So maybe I will get that, maybe it's
had some patches or updates at this point, but for me,
it was definitely GT four. Uh, playing that you know
started at like probably playing at my cousin's house, one
of those things we play all night long and then
having friends over, and yeah, we would just do the
same thing, like do the airport runs or like you know,
popping the cheek codes and see who could like survive
the longest on like just you know, putting the cheat
in or I guess just putting the gun into, like
you know, so you have all these crazy weapons and
then just seeing how long you can last when you
get to like five stars and all this stuff. And yeah,
just the game I played like front to back and
endlessly would come back to for like years and years
and years, I would come back to that one that
was definitely probably like a top three most played Xbox
three sixty game for me. It's gonna be up there
like Oblivion and Halo three. I feel like those would
probably be and maybe maybe one one for two. It's
in that it's in that top echelon of games I
just you know, endlessly came back to. And then yeah,
like the same like GT five was the first time
I was like, okay, I'm gonna be there day one.
I'm a full on adult now I can just.
Speaker 2: Go buy this game.
Speaker 1: I don't need to like convince my mom or something
like this to to go get the game for me.
And yeah, I just, you know, got absolutely totally invested
in that game. I don't think I ever got like
all the achievements, but I definitely did like an insane
amount of single player stuff. Even remember it was like
the Church, the Church storyline or something where you had
to like in one of these achievements you just had
to like run for a certain amount of time or
I don't know. There was all this weird stuff, and
I remember doing like everything in that game pretty much
that you could, and then just totally hooked on online.
I think I fell off earlier than you did. Like
I definitely didn't get to level two hundred, but played
a lot of that game, and I think I really
mostly played it before they did a lot of updates.
It was just like the Vanilla online experience. And obviously
they've done a million updates to over the years, and
I don't think I really experienced a lot of that stuff,
so I probably should go back to it at some
point and check it out. But uh, those were really
fun times, like just that truly online experience, because I
get GT four had like online combat multiplayer, right, but
I don't think you could just like cruise around the
map with your friends. I might be wrong about that,
but I don't remember ever doing that. If that was
the thing you could do, I don't remember either, And
I don't even think with GD four, I don'tven think
I ever played the deals. I think I just always
played the base game and those liberty City, Right, Yeah,
there's the ballot of GAYTONI and then yeah, Liberty City.
I forget what the full thing was called there, but
those are pretty juicy from what I understand, so I
should probably go back and check those out. At some point.
I've been thinking Taylor, like, could we do a retro
of some kind of Grand Theft auto before this game
comes out next year? Like would we just pick one game?
Would we dabble and like all of them? Rather than
like saying, oh, you got to beat the story and
spend one hundred hours in each of these, Like, let's
just spend ten fifteen hours in each one and do
an episode Like I don't know how would we tackle that?
And I think Vice City would be an interesting one
to do because of the setting of this, But I
also like, I don't know how old, Like if we
want to go back that that far, what do you
think we should do? Like should should we tackle this?
And how should we tackle it? Oh? My planning on
air for the listeners right here, it.
Speaker 2: Would be a lot of fun to just gather all
together and just pop in like Y City, San Andreas
and SA three, just those that trilogy of GGA games,
but namely just by a city, because you make a
great point on its ties to GTA six. I think
that would be a lot of fun to go back
and play one of the older ones. Even though it
probably hasn't aged the greatest, I don't still think it
could be very enjoyable as a group playing it together.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I think that could be Uh, that
could be interesting. So I'll look into those remaster trilogies
see if like they're better now or if they're still
as bad and buggy and whatever as they were when
they first came out, like this last year, two years ago,
whenever that was. But uh, stay tuned for that. But
getting into GT six here, this is the second trailer,
still no gameplay. Everything in here is a cut scene,
although it seems like it's in engine cut scenes rather
than like CGI cut scenes, so at least gives you
an idea of what the game will actually look like. Like,
you know, I've seen a lot of people talking about
like the shots or scenes we're getting here very much
seemed like those shots that happened right before the camera
like zooms out into the third person view and you
just take over. So it seems like, Okay, a lot
of these are like moments before gameplay, we're just not
actually seeing like someone using a controller to like to
control what we're playing here. That's at least the take
I got. But you know, what did this also? First
of all, last week in Kirk, when we're talking about
how the delay happened, and in that we were both like, yeah,
it might be a while before we get a trailer
or an update on GTS, that's you know, And then
the trailer dropped like hours after we dropped the episode.
Of course, that always happens. I just thought they would
maybe take some time. But I feel like it's one
of those things, you know, pretty classic. Put up the
bad news and then put up some good news a
few hours or like a day later, and then just
cover up all the bad news. Everyone mad about the
delay now they don't care because they can froth over
this new not gameplay, but new trailer. I guess for
the next you know, a few months until we get
something else to chew on. But yeah, what did this
trailer do for you? Did it increase your hype level?
Same hype level. I'm gonna assume it didn't decrease, but
I don't know, Maybe he did it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it definitely didn't decrease. I know that
the trailer is equal parts how they say it, Yeah,
gameplay and cut scenes, and that's cool, but I would
like to see I'd like to see actual, like just gameplay. Gameplay.
For me watching this, it's just like, Okay, it's some
story beats and all that. That's kind of fun. It's
it looks you know, world building and everything. Just get
to see every the land, lay of the land and
all that. It's cool, But there's a certain peak line
that I cannot exceed with a trailer like this. I
need to actually have that full immersive gameplay. I want
to have the up someone on stage telling me like, Okay,
here's your guy, here's your girl, and oh look there's
a vehicle you're gonna hop in there. Oh we're gonna
just like go to the airport. We're gonna take off
and we're gonna do this heist and we're gonna do
this like, oh, we're gonna do all this crazy shit.
And the best part is it's all free to play. YadA,
yadh YadA, well, not not free to play. What's the word, Oh,
my goodness, free roam is what I meant to say
the game is not going to be free to play. Yeah,
that would be crazy. That would definitely be something that
would expedite my my hype levels. But everything that was
in here, it looked beautiful. It looked like they've been
really working hard at this, and it seems it seems
almost surreal, to be honest, because I do feel like
GTA five was just around the corner, like last not
last week, but only like a couple of years ago.
So it's just it seems surreal to me that, hey,
we're on the cusp of getting GTA six already. Yeah,
it's just it blows my mind a little bit.
Speaker 1: GT five feels recent to.
Speaker 2: You, it does, it really really does.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. I think you're the only person in
the world who has that tape. I as the hottest
take I've ever heard on all of these tens. I
think it's a ten year old game, isn't that twenty thirteen?
So twelve twelve.
Speaker 2: Years at this point does not feel like thirteen.
Speaker 1: By the time this next one comes out, you know,
you have Red Dead in the mix in between there
to break up that you know, long Rockstar gap. But yeah,
GTA it's been. I mean, you know, to your point,
GT Online getting kind of constant updates and new content,
probably as there's probably new content for it this year.
I you know, it's been a while since I've kept
up with it, But in that way, I can see
what you mean where they've really kept GT five alive
and then of course keeps getting you know, new versions
for whatever new console's coming out with, like better frame
rates and you know, resolutions. I think, so, yeah, to
your point there on your side of things, yeah, they
have at least kept it very modern, so it doesn't
feel like it's been some old, stinky scrap heap like
they have updated it, give it some fine tuning in,
grease the wheels, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think this really changed my hype level a
whole lot. Still very hyped for it, but I think
I think, if anything, my hype decreased a little bit
just because of the delay in terms of like, OK,
I'm going to wait a bit longer, so I'm just
trying to keep my expectations in check. And then the trailer.
It's funny because like you know, I saw everyone talking
about it and listen to some other podcasts people breaking
down the trailer, but I hadn't actually seen it myself
until like two hours ago. So I feel like by
the time I actually watched the trailer, I was kind
of like knowing what to expect. It is, like, of
course it's gonna look gorgeous, but there is obviously a
lot of details, a lot of quick cuts, and so
a lot of people online have kind of, you know,
making some theories like, oh, what could this mean? Is
this a mechanic or is this just like a cutscene thing?
So I wrote down a big list here like random stuff.
But I think the thing that actually got me a
little bit more hyped, funnily enough, was going to the website.
Have you been to the website for this game? Taylor
no is it? As a guy who likes creating websites,
you are gonna like the interactive like this is a
video game. This this this has more gameplay in it
than the trailer did. Like that's that's it's they really
went above and beyond where you go on here. You
kind of scrolled down. It kind of brings images in
in real time, and then you can like click on
certain things and scroll left and right between them, so
you kind of get like a glimpse of all the
characters and like essentially like their one or two sentence
premise of like here's what the character's story is or
here's their setup, and then like you know, getting interstitials
of like seeing the different locations. So it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: How much money did they spend on this game?
Speaker 1: Again, dude, I I and this probably might be the
most expensive game ever made, So I don't know, I
don't know how much a game that was.
Speaker 2: The most expensive website ever made too. On top of that,
it was at least a billion for this. Oh my god,
I've never seen a website like this before.
Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. It takes a long time to scroll
down all of you too, just because of how much
stuff is like loading. It like legs your computer out
by going through this website. So if that's any sign
of what the frame rate of the game will be
like on consoles, if it's leg you know, my web
browser just to run this website. So yeah, I think
the thing that got me more hyped up with this
and not necessarily the characters, because you know, when I'm
in the game and I'm actually hearing the voice actors
and I'm seeing their performances and the crazy antics are too.
That's when I'll get more attached to the characters. For me,
it was more the locations in there. They really show off,
like here's like five or six of the key kind
of spots, one of them being the key so you know,
good pun there. But of course you have like the
main city hub. But then you also have like it's
more i don't know, different kind of zones, so we'll
break those down again as well. But yeah, that website
I think increased my hype a little bit. So overall,
I'm I'm the hype levels increasing, but I'm still I'm
always a gameplay guy when it comes to these trailers
for the most part. And yeah, I'm just excited to
see a little bit of that footage. I really want
to see what like cars moving around looks like I
can I can guess what they're gonna look like. But
you know, that's always a tension of GTA is like
if you go back to an old GTA game, the
gun combat always feels atrocious and the driving always feels atrocious.
When you go back to these things, like they just
don't age super well. Whether it's like GT four's vehicles
that feel like everything's on ice, and then just like always,
the gunplay feels like it's you know, behind the other
contemporary third person shooters of the time. So that's why
I want to see a little bit more gameplay and
just get a vibe of how I'm sure the gameplay
is gonna feel gret because the GTA game like, they
always feel good in real time, but then when you
go back to them, like a couple of years later,
it's they always feel a little creaky, right, But I'm
hoping that this one will be top notch, and I'm
sure it will if they've put this much budget and
everything else, I'm sure, you know, the car mechanics and
gun mechanics are just gonna be top notch or at
least like good enough with like the the you know,
current Triple A games that we're seeing everywhere. H So
obviously we didn't really get gameplay, but there's a lot
of things that we can look in here and be like, oh,
we're gonna get gameplay that is like that was there
anything off the top of your head from this trailer
that like really stood out to be like, well, I'm
excited to do that or excited to see that location
or this type of combat or this mini game. I
don't know what got you most hyped, if anything from here.
Speaker 2: Uh, I mean to be honest, I i'd say the storyline.
I feel like this. I don't know exactly the specifics
between these two characters. If you're switching back and forth
like an assassin' sweed syndica kind of thing. I haven't
looked into that, so I don't actually know, but I'm
just assuming you are. But the dynamic of this girl
getting out of jail and they're just going back into
these doing these heists and whatnot. I'm hoping that that
is a feature that they're pulling over from GTA five
because the heist was a heck of a damn good
addition that wasn't there at launch either. That was something
they implemented a little bit after the fact. So not
just petty crimes, but heists. I want to see that
mechanic come back, for sure. But yeah, a lot of it.
A lot of it to me just looks very familiar
in terms of just getting up to and everything like that.
I think other things that they put in there is
probably just a lot more world building dynamics, like just
like parades or just people doing their own things. Like
usually in GTA it's like, oh, people are walking, people
are driving. That's probably one of the basic line, baseline
things with an AGTA game. But now it seems like, Okay,
there's actually like a world that things are unfolding, things
are happening like sims almost right, Like those characters NPCs
are actually doing living lives, which is I think is
pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny you mentioned that it was like
one of the things that blew my mind so much
about the GTA five trailers, and then when I finally
played the game, was just like, oh, yeah, this NPC
might be like smoking a cigarette, or they might be
holding like a thing of French fries or a soda,
and you can just like go up and like push
them and then like drop the thing on the ground.
And I know it seems like a kind of small
detail now, but I remember just the little details like
that blowing me away in terms of the realism of it,
and just made that feel so much more immersive because
the people, you know, didn't feel like little lines of
code walking around. They did feel more like people that
inhabited this place, and I think you especially need that
in a world like GTA, which is very absurd. Humor
is very over the top, and it's it's very silly
at times and obviously are like a lot there are
dark moments too, But I think when you like have
those level of those things, those little details of realism,
it kind of like brings you back down to reality
at any given time. And that was one of the
things I see a lot of people talking about this
with like uh when so Jason and Lucia are the
two many characters here. When he's like walking to the
liquor store and like his he has like a case
of beer and like you can see the liquid in
the beer bottles, like you know, having like full on
physics to them rather than just being like one static object.
So like that that kind of reminds me of like
the cigarettes and like popcans from like GPA five in
terms of the level of like realism that we're getting there.
And then another I have a bunch of ram notes here,
so we'll just start plowing through some of these. But
one of the things that I've seen, you know, some
people talking about are theorizing is you know, I don't
know if you remember this back in San Andreas, but
you could like go to the gym and like work
out and it would like improve your you know, your
stats and you'd get more buff. Or if you just
went to like Clucking Bell or whatever it's called and
just loaded up on burgers, your character would become like
fatter over time. And like I just there's a few
different shots of Jason here where he looks more or
less Jack than he does at other times. And I
guess if these are like in game, these aren't like
CG cut scenes, but like they're you know, based off
of you know, like they're in engine cut scenes, if
that makes sense, Like it would like based off what
your character model looks like at that given time. So
it seems like that might be something they're bringing back
where you and you know, there's a couple of shots
of him like at the gym, him Lucy like at
the gym working out and stuff, and I could see
that feeding really well with the Miamis setting too. But
like bringing back that kind of thing, it kind of
binds me of like I remember it was a big
talking point with red Dever redemption as goofy as it
was that like in the winter, like the horses balled
with like freeze like strin and stuff like that, right,
And it feels like that could be a thing or like,
you know, I could even see that being a like
them adding like a sun tan physics thing to this
game as well, since it is Miami and people are
getting sun tan just based on like I don't know,
time of year or whatever it is, like maybe you're
getting more and more red or crispy around the edges
or not. I don't know if there's gonna be like
seasons in this or whatever. But yeah, those those kind
of things really stood to me of just being like
I think it'd be really cool to bring back like that,
specifically that working out mechanic. That could be an interesting
thing or just like other I forget what the other
stats were in San Andres that could like EBB and
flow like that, but I think that'd be really fun
to have a feature like that in here.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I didn't even I didn't even click on that
with the trailer. That's a good observation, but the different
body size and whatnot, and I totally forgot about that
mechanic and San Andreas where you can overtime shape your
your character's physique. That's actually that would be really cool
to see that come back, because yeah, in retrospect, that
wasn't in GTA four, And I feel like at times
GTA four maybe had a little bit lesser of stuff
compared to San Andreas and Andreas I feel like has
a lot more going on for and then five had
a fair bit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean good. I feel like probably most
people's favorite who have played all these games a lot,
is San Andreas. So I don't know what the reasons
are exactly for that. I'm sure like the workout mechanic
isn't the sole reason why, but it's like a little
part of what made that game special among with its
great story or you know, all the other things about it. Yeah,
I think you know, it'd be it'd be cool if
we kind of dip into the well of Like obviously
they're gonna go back to grab some things from Vice City,
I would imagine, just because of the same setting, but
you know, it's good back to go rethink all these
games that they've done in the past, what are the
strengths or weaknesses of each one, and like, how can
we bring all that stuff in and make it purposeful.
Another thing that can you remind me in GT five?
Like could you swim underwater? Or could you only swim
on the surface of water?
Speaker 2: I want to say you could swim under Oh no, I.
Speaker 1: Have a distinct memory of like a scuba mission, but
I don't know if that was just like or not
a scooba a submarine mission. But I don't know if
that was just one mission where you're underwater and it
was like a set piece, or if the world always,
like you know, has a model for what it looks
like under the water and you could swim down there.
I don't remember, Like, I don't really remember swimming underwater
other than that one submarine mission.
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I'm not sure. All I remember is
a submarine mission. I don't I don't see people swimming underwater.
I do know that there was that submarine. You could
transport it to a lake and if you get it
to the lake and go underwater, then there's like a
UFO or something at the bottom of the lake.
Speaker 1: I think, oh, okay, Yeah, So it's weird that like
they spent for what is like one vehicle and I
know you're probably not using very often. It seems like
they still modeled a lot of like the underwater sections
to it. But I think, you know, more so than
uh oh yeah that UFO there is that a real shot.
That's real huh.
Speaker 2: That is on yeah, the Easter Egg and the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, I remember that was always a big
mystery of like the Aliens and all that. There was
like the big Foot in there too, right. I love
it that they do some weird like more cryptid stuff
as well, I'm sure as well, But yeah, I feel like,
you know, with the Miami setting and a lot of
beach vibes here a lot of water. Of course, these
games always have water because they're always like surrounded by
it's always like a make believe continent and just dropped
in the middle like an endless ocean. Right, But I
feel like, you know, especially for Miami and like the
beach weather and people being on boats and stuff all
the time, it makes a lot of sense if they
were maybe going for more underwater stuff. And like one
of the shots I forget if it was in the
trailer or just one of the screenshots on the website,
but there's like a scuba a scuba shot where the
character's got full Scooba gear on. I don't know what
character it is, and they're swimming underwater. So whether that
is a mini game that you're doing and you got
to go collect stuff and it's just like one of
the activities you can do. These games always are filled
with activities, or if you can just swim underwater at
different times and there's more mechanics down there. I don't
know if that's something that'sarily like sites me. It seems
like it'd be kind of slow and not that interesting,
but it just in terms of variety and like really
setting you in the location of the game, I think
that would be pretty cool. Some of the other things
that I saw here some breakdown, like some of the
other activities that seems like the game has play pool,
you can go fishing, kayaking, so you know, other water
based things there, scuba, you know, dirt bike race actually
there's gonna be a lot of racing in general, and basketball.
I don't I don't know, I don't know. I didn't
see this myself. I just saw this on a breakdown.
I don't know if it was a screenshot, if there's
like a footage of like actual basketball game. But that
would be cool because Gdafi, I've had tennis, had golf.
I can't remember for any other sports. I know, you know,
if we go back to GD four, we had bowling
because what's his name? The cousin always wants to take
Nico bowling, but I can't. I can't recall other sports
we've seen in the series, but definitely not basketball. I
don't think that's ever been done. Even if it's just
like playing horse or shooting hoops and not a full game,
that's still, you know, kind of a fun addition. It
seems very Miami coded as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's pretty unique. I remember
you're jogged a memory I have. There was this video
I was watching with this guy who's pranking his dad
and he made his dad think he was playing like
PGA Tour, but he was just like golf in GTA
five and his dad was like, what's going on because
he was getting violent, brutal. Yeah, but the basketball, that's
that's actually a pretty cool, cool addition.
Speaker 1: I'm sure this game will of golfing too. I think
there'll be I would think Carson, I think it's a
very Miami thing. As someone who's I guess I've been
in Florida, but I don't think I've been to Miami,
So what do I know? Okay, so I think highlighting
some of the areas. One they kind of showed off
once again. A lot of this is from the website,
but I'm sure there's shots of it in the trailer
for those with keen eagle eyes like legalists. But one
of the areas is more like swampy gator area. And
one of the things that stood to me is, like
I said, there's like a couple shots of like, you know,
there's probably little boats you can drive through there, but
also just like vehicles, you know, the water will be
up to like the top of your tires kind of thing.
But just driving through these kind of really shallow waters
fighting off gators like that seems like a fun area.
Super down for that. The one that really captured my
imagination is called Port Gellhorn, And I'm just gonna read
this description from the website because I love this description.
Cheap motels, shut down attractions, and empty strip malls won't
bring the tourists back, but there's a new economy in
this once popular vacation spot. It's fueled by malt liquor, painkillers,
and truck stop energy drinks, jump on a dirt bike
and hold onto your wallet. So like, I just I
can't wait to go to that area of the map.
But it's funny, like, you know, seeing the descriptions of
all these places, I can kind of graft onto it,
like what the equivalent spot is from GTA five. And
I think that's why I love that game and map
so much, is because you have obviously, the city takes
up most of the south of the map, and that's
its whole region, but then you go up to like
Trevor's area and like the sandy like trailer park zone,
and then you kind of have like the wild mountains,
and then a couple of smaller towns up north. And
so I think in the first trailer, I don't know
if I really got that vibe from GTA six that
we're getting different locations, even though I'm sure there was
gonna be them, but I feel like getting kind of
confirmation of some of these different zones, it will make
it feel like one like a huge, big world because
you're gonna get these really distinct areas, but you're also
getting like some fun, kind of interesting ideas here, and
so I'm excited to go to Port Gellhorn. I feel
like I'll spend a lot of time there, you know,
with the uh, the what did you call it? The
chalk the chalk outline rebels. I feel like that's the vibe.
I feel like you guys would be like home based
out in Port Gellhorn is my interpretation of your gang.
So I'm excited for that spot.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I did not. It did not click with
me watching the trailer that there are these different, very
unique specific locations. But until I looked at the website
and was kind of pruising through them, Leonida Keys, this
looks like the place I want to be, Like with
I wanted that seaplane that's there.
Speaker 1: I want to I.
Speaker 2: Feel like that's new. I don't feel like seaplanes have
been a thing in Grant Thef's Auto before. I remember
in five there was that I just called it the
AC went thirty. It was that big military carrier plane,
that cargo plane. I love that. That was fantastic, and
then yeah, they got some other other cool little things.
But seaplanes like this, just the mechanics of it, just
trying to like land on the water. I just I
can't wait for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah man, Yeah, I mean I think this whole map
is probably gonna be a little more integrated with like
water intersperse between these different region where I feel like GT. Five,
like you know, it had like the big lake up
in like the middle north ish of the map, and
then it was just like coast around the outside GT.
Four like it's just New York. So I guess you
get like a couple like rivers essentially like between bridges.
But I feel like this map just because the location
will probably have water more intersperse. And yeah, for me,
the Keys definitely stood out to kind of being like
an archipelago sort of setting of like just these long,
sprawling like snakelike islands and stuff that are all connected.
I think it'll be really fun to navigate that. And
especially to your point, if we have like fun more
like interesting water vehicles or they got like the water
plane stuff like that, I think will be really fun
to go around those areas and that, like the screenshots
of that place just look absolutely gorgeous. So I can't
to just fly through there like two hundred kilometers an
hour and just like you know, hit some air and
then end up flying into the ocean, like that's gonna
be that's gonna be a good time. Mount Calaga National Park,
So this seems like this seems like the wild area,
like the Wild Zone where you know you're gonna be
traveling on trails. There's a lot more animals here, So
I don't know, I feel like we haven't seen a
lot of shots from like the trailer of this place,
maybe like off in the distance, but just some screenshots
from the website there. I think that's fun mixing up
the variety. But I'm guessing there won't be a ton
of quests in there, but it'll just be like a fun,
chill place. And I think that's a big part of
GTA is like most of the time you're not doing
a quest or doing a specific thing. For me, it's
just like roaming around, messing around, exploring. And I feel
like that'll be a really fun place to explore. And
I'm sure they'll be a big foot in there, or
like some weird cryptid to find, maybe a squonk if
we're lucky, Taylor.
Speaker 2: Nice that would be that would be amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's all the regions from the website.
But yeah, I think also like you know, I'm sure
we'll get some fun kind of hybrid areas as those
areas collide with each other and we get those different locations.
There are a few more notes herees how would we
take our first break of the show. We'll be right
back to breakdown even more GTA six. All right, we
are back. The opening of the trailer has Jason up
on a roof and then he's talking to a guy
down as his truck there. That guy sounds like Stephen Root,
and I think that's a great casting choice for GTA.
Now it could be a guy doing like his best
Stephen Root impression. But if it is Stephen Root, I'm hype.
That's Fukes from from Barry. That's you know, he's in Dodgeball,
he was in Office Space. He's he's a he's a
he's a classic, and he fits very much the vibe
of like these greasy GTA characters. Not that he's a
greasy guy. I'm just saying he fits the vibe is
and get out as well. So like I I think
if he's in there, that's exciting. Even if he's and
I think he's one of the people highlight on the
website that makes me think that he'll be a you know,
semi relevant character. You know, obviously he's not gonna be
main character playable or anything like that, but it seems
like he'll be around. So I'm excited for that. And
you mentioned Jason. Yeah, so Jason and Lucia, this is
a very different relationship to your point, than we've seen,
like a different in any other GTA game. Of course
there's been like a relationships and stuff, but never have
you played as two characters in a relationship. There's a
lot of sex in this trailer, and so I'm curious
if that's like a mechanic like in SIMS where you
can just go wu with anyone at any given time,
or if those are just like set story beats. But
it also makes me wonder, like what's the vibe gonna be,
Like are you flirting with people? Is there is there girlfriends?
Like what if you go hook with a prostitute? Is
Jason cool with that? If Lucia goes and hooks up
with like a Jiglo and like you know, port Gellhorn
or something like that, I'm curious to see what that
how that works. But I think it's a you know,
different dynamic to have like you know, I'm sure these
characters are filled with rage as they're going you're doing
all these bank robberies, But to have characters that are
like more based their relationships and we're based around love
and not being like the center part of the story,
one that's gonna of course lead to something super dramatic
and like Act three. Of course, you know, like one
or both of these people are dying, or one's gonna
sacrifice themselves or the other. But I think it's a
really interesting dynamic and to your point as well, I'm
curious to see if this is like GJ five or
you can just click the deep at at any point
and transition between the characters, or if it's like okay,
you play Lucia for ten hours here and then okay
you get a five hour section it is Jason, back
to Lucia for two hours, back to Jason for ten hours.
Like if it's story based in that way, I'm guessing
you aboth to switch between them on the fly. But yeah,
I don't know, really interesting, unique setup for these characters,
and I think it'll be make for a really fun
story and maybe a bit more of a cohesive story
than GGA five in terms of obviously those characters end
up working with each other, but I feel like from
the get go these two characters are gonna be working
alongside each other for pretty much the full time, right
mm hmm?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean with GTA five, it was just Trevor,
was it Michael to start off with, and then you got, oh,
what was later on? Franklin later on? That's right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or no, Trevor is the third one, right, or
like you don bank robbery and then I think you
start as Franklin, then AD Michael, then AD Trevor, then.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I can't remember fully. You might be right though, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like it seems like Jason. It seems
like you maybe start as Jason, you do a couple
of things, you go get Lucy out of prison, and
then you know, you can probably play as both of them,
would be my guest. And then maybe there's certain points
in the story where like, oh, Lucy has been grabbed
by some criminals and she's type in a warehouse, so
you only can play Jason for a bit. So I'm
sure we'll get sequences like that as well, for sure.
Any you know, there's a lot of characters in this
trailer that we see a glimpse of. There's a lot
more on the website. There's any characters that are sending
it to you for me, like other than the you know,
Stephen Root presumed character, there aren't really any yet that
sent it out to me as being you know howighlights.
But I'm sure once again, once we actually get into
the game, that'll be pretty invested in some of them.
Speaker 2: Oh, who's this one character that they mentioned? Ammunation. This
guy is apparently a returning figure, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ammunation has definitely been the gun store forever,
but I don't I don't recognize that guy specifically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is apparently I can't remember where his origins are,
but he's tied with the franchise of Ammunation somehow, and
now it looks like he's running the run on the show.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get some people that were in Vice City,
but I don't even I don't even know. Maybe that's
too much of a deep cut to really want to
bring back those character. Maybe it'd be more like cameo
status for some of those Vice City people. But I
guess like Vice City was eighties, right, and then we're
in modern day here, so forty years have passed, but
you can get some old old Vice City people coming back, right.
Speaker 2: Do you think we're gonna get And this is kind
of detouring off with the people because the one shot
in the trailer there was a sign that sits like hurricane.
I wonder, do you think you could see severe weather dynamics,
like all of a sudden, everyone's going underbunkers because you
got a hurricane coming into town. Frick.
Speaker 1: I would love that. That's something I've never considered until now,
because you just get like, I can't remember there's like
thunderstorms and other GT games. I'm sure there are, but like,
I don't know if they have any mechanic in the
way that like Zilda, if there's a thunderstorm, like you
gotta make sure you put your metal weapon away. I
don't think. I can't think of that being the case
in any GTA game, but that would make sense for Florida.
But I also don't like, I don't think the web,
I don't think the buildings are gonna have like destructibility
like battlefield or anything. So I don't know what kind
of like I don't I don't know what that would
look like like, I don't how do you think that
would like take place of gameplay? Would it just be
chucking vehicles around and like killing you or like how
how would what would that look like from a gameplay
perspective on GPA.
Speaker 2: I could see them doing specific areas well. It has
a day and night cycle. I could imagine that maybe
if you're not in actually like the city areas, you're
out in the swampy parts, maybe that area is subject
to a little torneatoes or thunderstorms whatnot. Maybe if you're
out in the like the Keys, you're flying your your
seaplane and all of a sudden, like it's stormy and
a tornado HiT's, like, oh my god, we gotta move around.
I can't remember because I didn't play a lot of it,
but just Caused four had very serious weather dynamics, like
little tornadoes and stuff like that storm mechanics, So I
feel like maybe something like along those lines. But they
I don't think the storms hit everywhere, just only the
like exposed outer areas that are outside of.
Speaker 1: Like city areas, So maybe something like that I could
see their, Like I think flooding to me makes sense
as one that's like a little bit less dramatic than
some of those, but could be quite really like it
could add to the immersion quite a bit, but it
also could be a good mechanic tide to like the
location and setting of the game. But I think like
certain areas like pooling with water could like you know,
interact with driving an interesting way, or even just like,
I don't know what the I don't know how severe
the tide is like the beaches here in Florida, but
I'm sure it like pretty drastically affects like how much
land is there. And I could see that being like
a time of day thing as well in terms of
like how much you know the tide going in and out,
and that could be really fun. Maybe there's like some
secrets that you can only get when tied it out,
and maybe that effects like maybe you could do a
race where like the tide's coming in and out and
you have to kind of dodge through it. I think
that could be really fun. Or maybe even just like
some more severe waves could be an interesting thing. And
I'm not gonna go full tsunami here because that would
be pretty dramatic, but even just bigger waves to interact
with it could be cool, like maybe as surfing in
there as a as an activity that could be fun.
So yeah, I would I'd never thought about that before,
but I love that pitch. I would love to see
something like that. Yeah, okay. The last I just have
a couple of quick shoudows here is you know this
trailer reiterates that this game is only coming to Xbox
and PS five but no PC. Now. Of course it
will someday, but it's getting that delayed launch, which also
happened for GTA five.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Was it a full year? Was it a few months?
Speaker 2: I think it was a full year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So do you think that's gonna be the case here?
One full year? Twelve months ish between the PC version
and the console versions here?
Speaker 2: I think so? And I dare I say, I don't
think it's I don't think it's by accident. I think
it's probably has some design behind it to do it
that way. I feel like PC in general has kind
of always been I think third to the party and
next to consoles, which is funny because I feel like
PC is the one that can run these games like
beyond what consoles can, and maybe that's one of the
reasons why they have to just hold off at launch
for a little bit longer for PC. But I just
I feel like this is my design maybe to boost
console sales at a time when the consoles are you know,
maybe not selling very well right now. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, they I bet what they
I bet they look at the analytics. If you TA
five obviously you know the second best selling game of
all time, but I think the most profitable game because
it's so less copies than Minecraft, but it's a lot
more expensive than Minecraft. I think is how that works out.
And I know for me personally, I bought the game
on three six see when it came out, and then
I bought it again on PC. A lot of people
also maybe triple dipped and got it on like next
the current gen at that time, you know, the post
generation there. But I think there's probably a lot of
people that did just that as well, because you know,
get it to PC, get some mods in there, or
just like you know, you can run a bit better
than like the three sixty version and stuff like that.
And I'm sure that's a huge part of their sales
of GTA five is Yeah, we can talk about how
many sales that have but you have to factor in that.
I'm sure a lot of those are people who double
dipped and bought the game multiple times, and that's why
you know, that number is kind of inflated for like
versus how many people like actually own the game potentially,
And so maybe that's maybe they just saw, hey, that
was a huge success of GTA five, even if it
wasn't intentional, let's just do that again. Uh and uh, yeah,
like delay that PC version. That also gives them more
time to avoid the you know, inevitable onslaught of mods,
and maybe that's something they don't want. Also, maybe he
just looks good for the shareholders because they can, like
two years in a row, have like huge numbers where
they're like you know, launching on different platforms. So yeah,
I'm sure there's a lot of reasons behind it. But
also it's just easier to launch a game when you
have less platforms, right, you have less bug fixing to do,
less patching to worry about. You can work a lot
of those bugs out and then like hopefully the PC
version will be the best version when it's when it
comes there, or have at least parody with like those
patched versions of the game, so it'll come out stronger.
So I think there, Yeah, makes a lot of sense.
Switch to does it ever come to switch to? Is
is it switch too powerful enough to run this game
even if they like nerve it and make it look
a lot worse, Like do you think that's something that
we see or is it just switch to? Just like
gets GT five and that's the announcement for GTA.
Speaker 2: I was laughing actually today because I mentioned that's my friend, like, yeah,
when I get my my coworker, like when I get uh,
I got that switch too, if we'll get GT on it?
And he scoffed, like, no, no, no, that's not coming to
the switch, not right away at least.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I feel like we've seen GTA up here on Nintendo consoles, before,
have we not.
Speaker 1: I believe the the Remaster Trilogy thing that came out
recently was on on the Switch prior to that. I
can't think of a single one. I'd be shocked if
you know San Andres was on the Wii or something
like that. Uh So, I think the only time that
ever happened was probably that Remaster Trilogy a couple of
years ago on the Switch. One. I think I.
Speaker 2: Don't think it's at the forefront of Nintendo too. Uh,
like we need to get this on our on our
console right away. That being said, I think that there
is maybe some wiggle room for it to come at
a later point in time. But you have to think
storage wise, right, like how many micro SD cards going
to buy for this this game to run?
Speaker 1: That's a switch that is a great point. And that's
even something else you know, I was thinking about, Okay,
would they Oblivion Remaster come to switch? But like that
sucker is one hundred and twenty gigabytes, Like I don't
think that can fit on a switch, right, Like what
is the switches switch twos? Can you look that up
from me real quick as I forget the number? But
like the switch to is default hardware, Like they's just
not gonna fit some of these big ass games, which
is you know, without you having to buy extra hardware,
which don't think is some they'd ever do.
Speaker 2: It has two hundred and fifty six gigabytes of kernel storage.
Speaker 1: Okay, so half that would be Oblivion, which you know
we mean sometimes that like oh call of Duty, it
takes the PLF your hard drive. But now like an
Elder scrolls Oblivion like a twenty year old game that's
taking to have your hard.
Speaker 2: Drive space, but you can't upgrade so you can get
like one terabytes and stuff. I believe, like yeah, the card.
Speaker 1: But I but I just mean, like, I don't I
don't think we'll ever get to a point where like
Nintendo wouldever sell a game that you can't just run
on your switch by default, or you would need to
buy extra storage space, like I guess technically they did
the back in the GameCube bear right, like game Animal
Crossing was a game that like required more spaces than
like the default memory cards, so they had to sell
it with the memory card. So I guess we could
get something like that, but that would be crazy because
like external external heart storage space is really expensive, So
if they would ever do a packing for that, they'd
be like, oh, yeah, buy this GT six bundle for
like three hundred dollars or something like that would be
kind of ridiculous, a little a little absurd, I think.
So I don't know if we'll see that, but yeah,
I think more like G five comes to the switch
to and that will sell another forty million copies of
that game. I'm sure, because you know what I'd probably
buy it again for the fourth time. I think third time.
How many times have I bought that game? A lot?
I need to buy it five times because then I can,
you know, fill out the namesake. Do you think GG
six on the Xbox Series X and the PS five
will it run or have the ability to run at
sixty fps? Or is it going to be locked thirty
or they have a hybrid motive you can switch between them.
Speaker 2: I think it'll it'll run.
Speaker 1: I think it will Okay.
Speaker 2: I think it's a big thing that next gen consoles
try to release. The Xbox tries to stand by, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't deliver on it all. They're getting
better at it. They are getting better at it, but
I think it's because they've had so much backlash. But yeah,
I feel like, I don't know if this is like
the best looking game ever, has the highest fidelity ever
of a game, like, I don't know, will those consoles
be able to keep up and run it at sixty
I you know, I think they'll just have to like
remove make it look worse. I'm sure it'll still look gorgeous.
And that's always been the case for me every game.
I always pick performance mode for quality mode, and it
still looks great. Like I can't think of a time
where we're like, oh, this looks like crap because I
turned the setting off. So yeah, we'll see, we'll see
what happens there and then online. I don't think we've
really got any confirmation of what's gonna happen with online.
Maybe it's integrated with GT five's online. It's just like
one continuous thing. Who knows what happens. But let's say
that this game just follows the same trajectory GT five,
where it has, you know, this single player game and
then online releases later. I don't know. Do you think
we're gonna get that? Is it gonna release with online
day one? Is it gonna be a later release? What
do you think is gonna happen here with GT six
is online?
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be not right away. I think
it's gonna come after the fact.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you.
Speaker 2: Remember GTA four what that was?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: I if they did that four because I know five
they had that space in between. But I'm just wondering this.
It's a consistent thing between previous iterations.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think g T four just had
like team deathmatch, kind of online. I don't think it had,
you know, it didn't have obviously like GT five's level
of online. God, I don't know, I don't know. I can't.
I don't think I ever really played the online in
that game, so I really have no idea even what
it was like. It's not something I really experienced much,
but I think it was unique what they did with
GTA five. They're releasing it later if I'm not wrong.
Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, Yeah, anything else on GT six Taylor for
today that was that was a lot that we just
dove into there, and there's a lot more we could
even though when I got like a two minute trail
here with no gameplay, But that just goes to show
how how excited people are for this game.
Speaker 1: There's theories abound.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm excited to whip out, you know, the
in game cell phone. And I can't if GT five
had any cheat search because you get entwered. But I
remember San Andreas was I'm just absurd for that, and
then four had that too, like spawning helicopters.
Speaker 1: I think if I've had it, but it was a
bit harder and I don't remember them being as bombastic
as the earlier games. I could be wrong, but I
also know it like you couldn't make money and like
disabled achievements. I think like it just did a lot
of other annoying things that let me just use a
cheek code, you know, just leave me alone.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. That's why I really loved send Andreas for that.
Just like you get a tank and then flying capabilities,
so you're flying around in a tank and it can
shoot and just absurd, and you can.
Speaker 1: Use a dildo as a baseball bat. Right.
Speaker 2: I was on the police station and said the bathroom. God, damn,
there you go.
Speaker 1: There is there's a game, a little little known game,
GT six. Howpo we take our let's like our last
break of the show. We'll be back. We got a
couple more topics for you, so one moment, Okay, we
are back, and you know what else is coming back?
On August twenty sixth is the release of Gears of
War Reloaded, a remaster remake, a reload of the original
Gears of War game, this time coming to all platforms
instead of just an Xbox title. I'm not crazy tailor.
There's no trailer, right, they just had like a blog
post on some info.
Speaker 2: To my knowledge, yes.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I was going all up and down YouTube,
I assume there was a trailer for this. It's really
weird to announce this without a trailer, in my opinion,
but Xbox has made a lot of odd choices in
the last few years, So who am I to say?
You're a huge fan of the series and this game
in particular, So how are you feeling about this?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you hyped to the gills?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 1: Do? You not need this at this point in time?
Where are you at with this?
Speaker 2: I do not need this myself, but I know that
there's a large amount of fans out there that definitely
have been wanted to want to a remake for a
long time. So I'm happy for them. I'm happy they're
they're they're getting it. I feel like it's a classic
for that original doesn't going back and playing it doesn't
feel like it aged well. So there definitely is is
a place for remake for sure. Uh. Gears, I remember
I played a lot of Gears to multiplayer, but Gears
three is where I jumped fully on board in this franchise.
And after I beat Gears three, then I went back
and I beat Gears one beat Gears two, then Gears
War Judgment and then Gres War three and then four
and five and then I didn't beat Tactics that one.
That was a lot of fun, though, I.
Speaker 1: Really I gotta go back to Tactics for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's definitely there's definitely an attachment to this
franchise that I have. I really really love it, but
I mean it'll be on Games Pass, so I'll probably
I could see myself dabbling in it, but I'm not
in a rush. The thing that I'm waiting for is
E Day, and I was kind of hoping that maybe
we would get something for that. They don't even have
a release date announced for E Day that they're saying,
like be rumored for late twenty twenty five, maybe early
twenty twenty six. We don't have really anything on that,
which is a shame. I feel like, maybe, ah, it
makes sense if they put E Day out first, then
people probably aren't going to jump to that remake. But
in terms of storyline, for does it make sense E
Day comes first, then fourteen years later in the timeline
Gears War one takes place.
Speaker 1: Oh right, forgot it makes.
Speaker 2: Sense to kind of have it in that linearization narrative,
but I think for popular popularity reasons and probably trying
to get new people back into the into the full like, hey,
check on this franchise. You can start at Gears of
War one, then play Gears two and so forth. They're
releasing it because I feel like if they do E
Day first, not a lot of people are gonna jump
on the remake of the first one. But that's yeah,
I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah that's true. What if so this game's coming
out August twenty sixth. What if that is a subtle
little tease of a hint that Gears E Day is
coming out in twenty twenty six the twenty sixth number.
What if that's what if they're hinting at something there? Hmmm,
hair brain scheme, timfoil hat, Like, where is that? Is
that completely crazy? Or is this or is there some
nugget of potential there?
Speaker 2: I think there's a nugget of potential. I mean there
what I'm saying about people talking about like Resident Evil
and there's like the sign or something like, oh is
this the next Resident Evil game?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Something?
Speaker 1: It was a little more on the nose I think
than this. Potentially, that's that's at least a few nuggets,
But yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like game devs like to have these things
included in Companies like to put these things out there
for people and fans to just kind of look into
and decipher. So I would definitely add credibility to what
you're putting down. I'd eat it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see what day of the week. August twenty
sixth is a Tuesday, which is a weird. I guess
that's not too weird. Xbox hasn't been doing a lot
of that, right, Tuesday is I.
Speaker 2: Think that's a common release date for a game.
Speaker 1: Actually, Yeah, it's hard to keep up because they always
now they every Xbox game comes out with like five
day early access if you buy like the premium addition,
so it's always hard to remember when these actual games
come out these these days. Yeah. Yeah, Gears of War.
You know, it's been well treaded on geek first, but
maybe not so much the side Quest era, but like,
never really been my series. I've dabbled in it, but
like I don't really I never really love the setting.
I haven't really loved the gameplay. I think more where
I have had a lot of fun with it is
playing co op hord mode with friends, my cousin, all
that kind of stuff. I just always liked, you know,
Firefight and Halo and other tower DEFENSEI sort of hordemone
type things, you know, zombies, all that kind of stuff.
So I really liked that. But it's not want to
really dabbled a whole lot. But because you know of
game Pass here of course all the whole back catalogs
on game Pass right now, and I haven't jumped into it,
so like, what's gonna be different here? I don't know,
but maybe I'll jump into this. Do you remember how
long is this game? It's like a ten hour game,
the campaign fifteen twenty. Because if it's ten like, I
might just I might just finally do it. I might
finally play through the full game start to finish.
Speaker 2: I want to say it was ten I'm gonna confirm.
Speaker 1: All the games in that era were Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ten hours, right, it takes around nine to ten
hours to complete. I love those are games that you
have to play because it's insane difficulty. You got to
play on the hard difficulty and get through that and
unlockxy insane difficulty. I'm I'm one that always plays in
the harder difficult. I'm not doing these games. I love
that challenge so much.
Speaker 1: I'm playing through on easy mode and I'm I'm seeing
the story and I'm walking maybe a medium maybe a medium?
They what else do we got here? So this is
you know, four K, it's gonna have one hundred and
twenty frames, no surprise because Gears four, I believe has
a got a four K one twenty. If it wasn't
already in the game by default, they passed it in later,
So that's no surprise there. I didn't actually catch if
this is coalition making this or if it's another studio
making this, I don't know. Did they announce that or
did you see that?
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. Let's take a look.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this game also has cross playing between all its
platforms we'll talk about the platforms in a second, and
also has all the DLC worked in, you know with
the Day one, So that's cool. While you look that up,
I have another question for you, which is, do you
do you remember the DLC in this because I looked
up because you know, there's some multiplayer stuff of course,
but do you remember like was there like a campaign,
single player audition with the DLC as well for this game.
Speaker 2: Ah, my goodness, hard to make. Oh was there? Yeah?
Because the Gears likes to do this. Gears of War
two had where you could pick different routes, and one
of the routes that you could it was actually yeah,
one of the roads you could pick was actually like
DLC that they added in. Oh cool, okay, but for
Gears one, Oh I don't remember. Hmm, okay, no, we
can't recall. Did you find the Coalition thing?
Speaker 1: Are you still?
Speaker 2: Gears of War reloaded?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Developed by the Coalition and partnership with Szumo Digital and Disbelief.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've never heard of Disbelief, but cool putting them
on the map a little bit. Also this because I
didn't realize this, but I guess there're the Gears Ultimate
Ultimate Version whatever a few years back, which is like
a remaster of the original game. I don't really know
exactly what it changed from the original one, but apparently
if you own Gears Ultimate Edition on Xbox, you can
upgrade for free to reloaded, So I think that's really cool.
If you like bought this, you know, somewhat recent remaster,
you can just upgrade to this version for free. You
can't do it now. If you like buy the game
Ultimate Edition today, you can't get that upgrade. It's only
for people who've owned it prior to the announcement. But
I think that's cool. Also, of course it's gonna be
game passed, so it's pretty easily accessible for fans of
this series. And you know, Xbox gamers have no problem
finding this. But also for the first time no on
Xbox gamers are gonna be having the chance to play
this because it's also coming to Steam and PS five
the Evil PlayStation Sony Taylor, you've been kind of very
much against xboxes push to put their games on other platforms.
So how do you feel about this, which is like
kind of the number two flagship series, maybe maybe two
or three behind Fours that perhaps, of course will be
number one Xbox series. How do you feel about this
coming like day and date on PlayStation five, uh, and
kind of no longer being an Xbox exclusive. And I
think E Day is confirmed to be that that too, right,
that it's also.
Speaker 2: Coming to I don't recall on E Day.
Speaker 1: I'll look that up real quick. While you talk.
Speaker 2: What's interesting about this? And I've kind of warmed up
to the idea, uh, because from my perspective, cross play
I think is great. That's one of my most favorite things.
But with with war zones, because we've all been able
to play together with like Travis Emily Kirkland, you were
all sped across whether it was PC, PlayStation, Xbox, We've
we've played across through different consoles together and so it
makes that accessibility much much more better and intuitive. And
so when you look at this situation and Xbox is
not going to be putting games past on PlayStation, and
maybe they will in the.
Speaker 1: Future, I'm sure, yeah.
Speaker 2: I just I don't think that that is going to happen.
So in the meantime, hey, let's make money for our
company by selling our games to PlayStation. And you have
it's different where you have developers that make a game
for Xbox and PlayStation, but this is Xbox making like
it's their game. They're making their game accessible on another console,
and they're taking money away from Sony when Sony is
making games too, and they're putting their games out. But
someone's gonna someone could walk on the store and be like, oh,
Desk Stranding two or Gears of War Remastered, And I'm
sure a lot of people are gonna go desk stranding too,
but you know, you're gonna get a few people. I like,
I'd rather get Gears of War right now. And that's then.
You know, it all seems fine and dandy, but that's Xbox, like,
that's a marketing ploy. They're taking money away from Sony
by making their games available on there. I'm sure Sony
obviously they've agreed to this, and they are they are
allowing this to happen. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Sony will get a cut of any
of those sales if it's through their store, through the
digital store. I don't know if you buy a physical
version of Gears of wor reloaded if that even exists
on PS five, I don't know if Sony gets a
take of that. But if you buy it through the
digital store, given that there's no competition, like it's only
PlayStation store on the PlayStation, of course they get it.
They do get a cut of that. So yeah, they're
you know, they don't have to make a game at all,
and they make some money, so there is Yeah, that's true.
That's the other side of the token for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I found this interesting I just
learned about this today that the three best selling games
on PS five and April Minecraft, Elder Strolls, four, Oblivion Remake,
and fours A for A five I think recently just
came to PlayStation. So the top three selling games on
PlayStation last month, we're all Xbox games. Now, Micro Minecraft's
a bit of an exception. Of course, it is owned
by Microsoft, but it was on PlayStation before Xbox owned
that game in the first place. And then Oblivion another
weird case where like you know, that came when the
Oblivion originally came out, it was Xbox exclusive for a bit,
but it wasn't first party. It came to PlayStation later on,
and so, you know, a little bit less case. But
Fourza definitely that's like Xbox Blood right there, and now
that's kind of flowing through the system there and PlayStation five.
So yeah, obviously, like Sony's making money, Xbox is making
a lot more money selling these games on a platform
that's more successful than their own, and so it makes
a lot of sense. And then I think, you know,
my other argument or like I guess justification of why
Xbox would do this is like the more they keep
adding these games to PlayStation. If somewhere down the road
eventually Sony does agree to like let game Pass go
on their system, well, now they have like a pretty
big catalog of games that they can immediately put on
that system, right, because you kind of have to get
rights for every platform you're putting it on. That's why
some games only come to PC or maybe only something
to come to console. Not usually it's because it's like
a PC exclusive game or whatever. But at this point,
like Xbox First Party has what we're closing in on,
like ten games because you have Fursa, Minecraft Oblivion, you
had that like High Fire Rush, Pentiment, Grounded Indiana, Jones
just came out. You got Gears of War later this year,
So like ten to fifteen games there that if they
finally get that game Pass working on PS five or
you know, Sony allows it, they already have like a
catalog of games that can be their day one along
with you know, making a bunch of deals and putting
other things from their back catalog there. So yeah, I
think they're they're you know, setting the bed for that
to happen. Someday. We'll see if it happens, and then
I yeah, I think we'll get even more of a
push with the switch to of a lot of these
Xbox games now, a lot of the like modern ones
that are coming out this year next year probably can't
run on a switch too, but a lot of like
these games that came to the last few years probably can,
or like they can make a janky like you know,
a Nintendo fied version of it, like grounded out. It
looks kind of like crap on the switch, but you know,
you can still play Grounded on the switch. I think
we'll start see start to see a ton more of that.
So and yeah, I mean even Sony right, obviously, like
the PC push putting games like Horizon and now Pad
upon other things on switch, they haven't made the jump
to Xbox yet, but I'm sure it's just a matter
of time. So uh yeah, I think it's great for
everyone to have more ways to play the games that
they want to play. I think it's great As someone
who has all these consoles, I don't really care if
you know, Xbox puts their stuff also for me. For me,
it's just great for other people to have access to
these games in different ways. So and yeah, to have
cross playing there for the multiplayer means that this game
is gonna have, you know, a more active multiplayer scene
for years and years to come. I don't know how
top notch this reloaded is. I guess if it can
run one hundred and twenty fps is pretty top notch.
Maybe it can run a switch to If it can,
I'm sure they'll put it there later on the road.
We know that switch she does have access to do
one hundred and twenty frames, but obviously that's like on
very select games, so we'll see what happens there. But yeah,
any other thoughts on Gears of War or just yeah,
any any of this PS five stuff that we're just
talking about.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, no, can't say I.
Speaker 1: Do, okay, all right, well then last kind of Xbox
thing here, last ish Xbox thing here. Xbox just announced
last week that they are increasing the price of their
console by one hundred US dollars as well as all
their games going forward or like in the next few
months whatever are gonna be eighty eighty dollars USD going forward,
so you know, convert that to Canadian for US or
you know, whatever your local currency is. So yeah, you know,
we were we kind of expected for years and years
ago eventually console consoles drop. Oh my god, console prices
drop over time. But kind of the opposite case is
happening here, and it seems like they're doing this everywhere,
not just in the US, which you might think like, oh,
it's tariffs, like of course they're going to increase the prices,
but I think in Canada and stuff too, right, like
our prices are also going up. So I think it
is just across the board they're just increasing prices for
whatever reason. How do you feel about that? Because as
like the kind of you know, third place if you
want to console fanboy console wore it, Like, I don't know,
is this a smart move or they just covering their
bases for tariffs and like the impending economy from all
that stuff, or like, I don't know, what are you
what are your thoughts on this on as like mister Xbox.
Speaker 2: I think that the company is losing money in some
way there. I don't see them making a killing with
game sales because most of their games are dropping on
games Pass, so they're making money off those subscriptions, and
they're trying to make money off of consoles. I don't
know how many consoles. I haven't looked at consoles.
Speaker 1: I believe. I believe if you relate this to the
lifespan of the Xbox One, I think it's actually sold
less consoles than the Xbox One era did at this
point in time, and that's a generation that we look
at as like a big failure. But of course they
didn't have game Pass in the same way back then,
so there is other pillars to their business now on
the Xbox side of things. But yeah, I think the
console sales aren't super duper high. But once again, like
even the margins have always kind of been pretty low
on consoles. You're making your money from the software and
the subscription is usually over the console itself.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's right, that's very very right. I think
that in retrospect, this is them dealing with them a
few different things. I think that they're they're probably not
having their most profitable year. So okay, the shitty thing
to do is, yeah, bump the price up of your console.
If you're not selling a lot of consoles, but you're
going to sell some, someone's still going to pay that price. Okay,
So there's a small step in a financially improving direction.
The next thing is, Okay, these men in suits. They're
seeing what Nintendo did and Intendo charging that price to
their console, and they're thinking, Okay, maybe we can bump
the price because that's I haven't compared the specs, but
I'm sure that. I mean, the Switch one was not
the same specs as the Xbox Series X, and I'm
sure the Switch too is probably a little bit more
in line with what the specs are for the what
the Xbox is. So I think that that's definitely them
looking at the technology and the parts in both machines
and thinking, okay, well, now we're going to be a
little bit more on par and to build them. You know,
Nintendo's paying this amount of money for these things, so
we're gonna probably let's let's try and match that a
little bit instead of taking a big hit. And the
third thing I think is that at the Terraffs, that
kind of blade bleeds into the second point that I
was making there. I think the Terraffs have been a
little bit unprecedented, and you know, one day it's this,
one day it's back down to here, and then it's that.
And so you can't as a company keep fluctuating as
much as that is fluctuating. You have to, Okay, set
a baseline and just think, Okay, this is where we're
gonna you know, we draw the line here one hundred
dollars in increasing our consoles. But at least, you know,
it's it's not making us a huge amount of money,
but at least it's covering our base a little bit
more than dealing with the losses at that lower threshold
of a price. So I think there's just several factors
that are kind of involved with it, and and yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's so much to it as well,
Like you know, there's been so many rumors and things
like this whenn Xbox handheld, they might be cooking on
for a few years here, and like I don't know,
maybe when that releases, they want it to be like,
look how economical this is. It's three hundred dollars cheaper
than the Series X, it's one hundred dollars less than
the Series S whatever it is. And so maybe this
is a part of it too, of like future planning
of like they want people to adopt that so make
the other options less desirable so people are more drawn
of that. Is that a great idea? I don't know,
And that might also not be the case, it might
be more expensive in the series s even with the
price upgrade. We'll have to kind of just wait and
see on that. But yeah, and like, I don't know,
I really wonder how the price of like, like, I
when's the last time you bought an Xbox game? Like,
because obviously you're you're ripping up game pass, Like, what's
the last game?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: And you know, in terms of the upgrades, I got
a couple of the upgrades. I got the Red full ones.
I'm a arcane boy, you know, Rest in Peace arcane.
And then I got the Starfield one. But like, you know,
those are you know, cheaper purchases than a full game.
I can't think of the last time I bought, like
an Xbox game. It's been a long time.
Speaker 2: Usually, I mean Call Duty's I would buy them every
single year. This is the first year I've not bought
in a Call Duty. It's the first year I've not
bought an Assassin's Creed. I haven't even bought a Star
Wars game because they're available through all these different Gaming
Pass subscriptions. So it's an answer when my last purchase
Xbox game was, I don't know, Settlers of Catan the
board game I couldn't tell you, which is a.
Speaker 1: Sweet Xbox first party game. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know,
maybe that doesn't matter much, Like maybe the few people
that we're gonna buy it are the people who really
want that physical disc even though they out making a
lot of those, or it's the people who want the
ownership of it, and those people will continue to pay
the extra ten or twenty bucks whatever. And I guess
probably mostly ten bucks, right because they already did. The
price bumped to seventy USD for most of their first
party games, right, So yeah, we'll see. And then you know,
once again, more expensive games means potentially more people wanting
to go to game Pass instead to circumvent those additional prices.
And at the end of the day, that's kind of
where they want everyone to be. They want they don't
care what you own. They just want you to be
playing game Pass in some way or another. And you know,
they don't do like the I don't think they do
like the one dollar game Pass deal anymore. So it's
like now you got to pony up and they keep
in pricing that increasing that price. It'll probably go up
again this year. I would imagine at some point, I
think they're just trying to stagger their price increases a
little bit to not appear to I don't know, cutthroat,
I suppose, so, yeah, we'll see what happens there. But honestly,
I don't think this will have a big effect on
them much at all. Like I don't think they're gonna
the few people who are gonna the less people who
are gonna buy their stuff versus like the people who
are going to make a bit more money for the
company by buying their stuff a bit more expensive. I
think we'll kind of work out the same. And I
think ultimately for Xbox's game plan of hey, worse we're
making we're publishing house pretty much, we're whipping out software
left right and center, because you know, they bought all
these companies, but now we're putting that stuff on Sony,
putting something on Nintendo, you know, pimping out that that
game pass service, Like I feel like that's where their
bread and butter is these days. And yeah, I feel
like those pillars aren't really affected by these price increases.
So once again we'll see it happens when they do
the price increase for a game pass again because when
they did that recently last summer, I did unsubscribe for
about five or six months, I think, And now I'm
back on it, and there's been like an insane amount
of games the last like three months, so it's been
absolutely worth it. But once I'm done playing those games,
or you know, des Rinting two comes out or twitch to,
I'll probably kill that subscription again for a few months
because they've just made it kind of that expensive that
I actually have to think about that monthly purchase now.
So I don't know, I think there's a bit of
risk of that too, if they like that's the Nintendo's
thing with Nintendo Switch Online is it's so cheap that
I barely get Like I barely flinch when my credit
card goes through that. I you know, it's been like
my next purchase for Nintendo sochall and it's just so
little that I keep it constantly. But you know, Xbox,
that's not the case anymore because they really they keep
freaking jacking that price up over and over again. So yeah, anyway,
any other thoughts on that or do you want to
talk a little bit about oblivion here?
Speaker 2: That's that's everything cool?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I don't really have much to add here.
You know, it's a game that I've played for hundreds
of hours already, but I mostly been playing Expedition thirty three,
but I have played a little bit more Oblivion. I
had my friend over who you know, my friend Cody,
who I've had him on the podcast before to talk
about older scrolls. He's my kind of elder Scrolls main
homie there. We talked about all the stuff. He was
there with me Open Night of Skyer. When we're there
on Steam waiting for that play button to like on
gray Out, so we click on it. We play a
lot of Oblivion back in the day together, even though
it's a single player game. And he, you know, he
bought the game on his PC, didn't check the specs
at all. It didn't run on his PC. So then
he like, I want a refund. He's like, I don't
really want to see this game. Kind of come over
and so we had a good old fe We had
a very like high school hangout night, which was, you know,
a good throwback to have one of those, Taylor, We've
freaking got some slurpies, whipped out Oblivion and just played
that for a few hours. It was a good time,
and I think, you know, the funny thing about is
I was showing him around to my house in Imperial
City that bought the shack because I needed a place
to dump all my stuff and that's the cheapest house.
And then I realized this because you know, everyone talking
about this game again is you know, it's Oliver Reddit
and stuff, and I'm seeing things I didn't know before.
And one of the things I didn't really you know,
there's like house upgrades you can get in this game, right,
like you buy like the kitchen set or whatever. Yes,
did you know that you can steal those some of
those plans from places in the city. You can steal
like the blueprint for like the kitchen set from a
guy's house, and then you don't have to pay for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, no, no, no, I've never heard.
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy? As someone who's played this game for
hundreds of hours, that's not a new feature. I think
I've just always been there. I just never knew about
that all my time playing this game. So when he
came over, I like, you know, I went on the
WIKIU I'm like, I'm not going to spend hundreds of
hours like investigation. Everyone's house. I saw, like, Okay, this
guy's house has like this plan. This guy's has this plan,
and so you know, I wait until the cover of nightfall, which,
my god, night looks so good in the game. The
lighting is amazing. You know, I'm waiting for the guards
to look away, do my lock picking. I'll talk about
lock picking and again a second because I had another
breakthrough there, break into this guy's house. I don't know
about you, but whenever I do like a thieves guild
thing and Oblivion or Skyrim whatever, because of like the
physics system of like objects on tables, I always like
to ransack the houses as I'm like thieving with them.
So I'll like take the bowl of fruit, I'll throw
it on the ground. I'll knock all this stuff off
their shelf. And of course the sound like that doesn't
wake them, it doesn't break sneak. When I do that
kind of stuff, its just is for fun. So I'm
like a wet bandit, you know, I'm like the sticky Bandits.
I'm like, I'm I'm I'm I'm rough housing up the
place a little bit, cruising through this guy's house. My
sneak's skills awful. I think I was wearing heavy armor,
so I'm just like clunking around. But on this guy's
desk I found like, yeah, a couple of plans. I
find like the kitchen set whatever, like the wall decoration set,
just on the desk, just on the desk. And then
another guy's house, I saw he has more plans. And
I was in this guy's house for ten fifty team
maybe twenty minutes. I looked around his desk, I hacked
all of his chests that were like very hard locks.
Took me forever, like I can't find this thing. We
go down to the basement. There's like paintings on the
ground kind of leaned up against the wall, like old paintings.
Looking around forever, I'm like about ready to give up,
and just like Google, like where the heck are these plans?
And my friend's like, wait, look under that painting, and
like under the painting on the ground, tucked under there
were a couple plans just tucked away on the like
so hidden, and I love it. And then they gave
me more upgrades for my house. And then it was
super confused because I'm like how do I use these?
Like how do I give this to the merchant now
and like buy these, went to the you know, the
Three Brothers House whatever, the Three Brothers Shop, whatever it's
called there, couldn't figure it out. Eventually, I just went
back to my house and all this stuff was there.
I'm like, oh, I guess if you just hold the plan,
it instantly gets built for free. I just like didn't
realize that. So of course a little bit of jank
there of course with everything oblivion, But that was my
big new discovery, which I love. I can't wait to
do that in all the towns now because I love
breaking in the houses and find finding cool stuff. And
then the other one was do you do you know,
like how to the hack for the lock picking MINDI game?
Do you know how to like do it consistently? M no,
because I didn't know this either. Once again, I played
the game for hundreds of hours and I always just
winged it, and you know, you eventually get pretty good.
But you know, when you like click the click one
of the locks up, it'll fall down either like fast,
medium or like slow right. Yeah, if you so you
click it up, it'll pick one of those three speeds randomly,
it'll start falling down. But if it's if it's still
falling and you keep tapping it up before it's come
all the way down, it'll stay that same speed. So
if it's fast and you hit it and you keep spamming,
it'll keep falling down fast. But what you do is
you just click it up, you know, let it fall
completely unless it's slow, and then if it's slow, you
just keep tapping it over and over again. It'll constantly
stay slow. And then you can just really like lock
in that timing like a you know, guitar hero or something.
And since I learned that, I've not broken a single
pick and I can get very hard locks like immediately.
It's just it's it makes it so easy and I
love it. I just like though I never knew that before,
and it's like I wish I was just like crazy randomness,
you know. I love loved it for what it is,
but now I'm like, my god, I'm just unlocked home.
I don't. I can be security level three and I
can get very hard lock no problems because I know
the hack to it, so use that tailor. It's it's
it's great. I absolutely love it. So those have been
my you know, big Oblivion Discoveries, which is once again
crazy for a game I've played as much as I have.
But have you played any more of Oblivion or any
other games you've been playing that you wanted to highlight here?
This week?
Speaker 2: Pretty much just uh, just Oblivion. There's another game I
want I want to mention because it's kind of funny,
but I haven't. I haven't played it yet. It's just
it's on my radar. But Oblivion has been kind of
at the forefront of my my game time. And yeah,
I've just been shutting down Oblivion gates left right in center.
And yeah, I went and caught my horse for free
at the stables. Stables outside of the Imperial City, give
you that free armored horse, which is kind of nice.
And then yeah, I need to I need to get
my house. But I thought, okay, I'm I'm focusing on
the main storyline here. I need to. I did a
couple side quests, but I think, okay, I need to
actually just do some exploring. And so I went to
one town, thought I'm just going to walk to the
next town from here. Oh, I've been doing that too,
such great, great, it's awesome because, yeah, you come across
these tunnels or little camps and whatnot, all these different
things and just get I just let myself get sucked
away and just get into it. And I'm really enjoying it.
I'm trying to be more of a major. I started
the Mag's Guild quest line, and so I have to
hit all the towns and get my approval from everyone.
Speaker 1: Yep, I love that. I question super fun. I actually
I love the design of those because they're not super
combat focused. They're all just like weird, quirky, whimsical, little
goofy ass things with really melodramatic people. It's so fun.
It is a lot of fun, and that's giving you
the flavor of all the different towns as well. I
think it's like I'd honestly recommend that if anyone's like
feeling lost, feeling like this game is too big, do
Magor's Guild. I think that's like a great way to
really experience the different towns, get a flavor of them,
and like get some early quests done and you get
some couple sometimes get like some good spells. Actually they'll
just like give you a spell to complete a quest,
which is.
Speaker 2: You do you get some pretty good rewards that's one
of the reasons why I like doing it, just for
those those rewards. I've been looking at a few different
just videos of just getting certain armor locations and certain
things like left, right and center, just how to find
certain upgrades. And one of the spells I was looking at,
this person created a uh, oh my gosh, what was
it called. I sent the video to myself because I
thought I want to try to recreate the spell because
I actually talked about it. Okay, there's one hundred percent
reflect reflect damage spell, which is as broken as it sounds.
And then there was I can't remember what the other
one was, but.
Speaker 1: That like all damage or is it like just magic
or just physical or everything?
Speaker 2: In the video it showed they said it was all damage,
but the video specifically it was physical damage. But yeah,
it's it was incredible. Oh my god, it was so broken.
There were other another instances with this guy created a
spell where it basically made people steal from each other.
I don't know how he made it, but he was
in the bar and he did that and then everyone
was just killing each other and he used a chameleon
on himself, and then he just looted their bodies after
it's just savage.
Speaker 1: And then that must be I don't know. I don't
know about the stealing one, but I know frenzy is
the spell that makes people like attack just it just
makes them aggressive people around them. So if you're that's
why I guess the chameleon comes in, because they wouldn't
get aggressive towards him, they would get aggressive to the
other patrons at this poor bar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be careful what bars you go into
these days in here. Yeah, especially because I saw some
videos of people replacing all the fruit on the tables,
all the food on the tables with poisoned food. And
then it's just everyone's sitting in the taverns and they
just they take a bite and they're like oh, and
then they're all just like bodies dropping left, right and center.
Speaker 1: Have you seen those like meme videos from back in
the day. I'll send you some of these little fav
bros do like these. There's they're just called Oblivion one,
Oblivion two, Oblivion three or whatever, and they're just like,
it's just this guy who's so good at mimicking, like
the janky ass NPC physics, and he has one of
those when the guy's eating the poison apple. Ah, yeah,
it's great.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm overall, I'm thoroughly enjoying the game. I've
just been I've been exploring more, trying to upgrade my
characters some more, trying to boost up my carrying capacity
because that was one of the harshest realizations is when
I had one chain mail on, I was like, oh,
I'm gonna pick up this other one here and put
this in my inventory, and I was like, oh, I'm
over encumbered now I have to drop yeah most of
my stuff. That sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been pumping that strength stat. I think it's
mine's up to like sixty sixty five now nice. Nice,
at least five points in or I guess that's the maximum,
but five points into it every time, and I think
I'm good now in strength, Like I'm not really getting
over and cumbered every ten minutes now, which is nice. Yeah,
it's great. Yeah, it's bloody. It's just super fun. Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: Anything else the other game, Oh my goodness, I keep
forgetting the freaking name of it because it's such a
simple name. Hang on, hang on hand, I have it
on my Steam library. I will pull it up here.
Speaker 1: Simple name it's avowed something one.
Speaker 2: It has a one in its name. One. My friend
at co worker at work, he was telling me all
about it, and then my one friend he messages me
and he's like, hey, I bought this game. I was like, oh, okay,
it's called Schedule one.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, the drug the drugs dealer simulator game.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is it. And I was watching some videos
of it, and my friend he was sending me, Uh,
it does amazing. You know what cops are playing this game.
I I have a a friend who's a cop and
he's played the game and he's having a good time.
He's like, yeah, the cops are keeper asking me in
this game, and he's trying to get his drunk overa
and going. I just think it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, if anyone is mad that GJ
six got delayed, just go play Schedule one. It's like
thirty bucks or something, and I think you will. You know,
you'll have fun. It's you know, it's not a Triple
A game, so expect the graphics to look like pretty janky.
But like I think, mechanics wise, freedom wise, stupid silly
stuff wise, I think it'll fill that niche for sure,
for sure. I think it's an early access right now, right,
I believe it is. Yeah, but it has multiplayer as
well as you and your you know, ten closest friends
or whatever. You can go make a drug empire.
Speaker 2: One does I forgot about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, looks good. All right, anything else, Taylor or
is that all for this episode?
Speaker 2: That's all?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining. This is a really
fun episode. I feel like we really got in the
weeds on a lot of these topics. Thank you everyone
for listening. Next one, you know, the day this episode
drops is the release of Doom Dark Ages, So next
week on the podcast we'll be talking about that. Thank
you everyone for listening, and we'll see you again then
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