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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly

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video game show here at gig Versus. I'm your host

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still mus and I have with me grand Theft Taylor. Hi,

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are you do internet? My friend doing very very well.

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I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's been another hot minute since I've

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been on side Quest with you.

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Speaker 1: So true. I feel like you guys always say that

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every time, and I'm like, I think it's pretty equitable

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when I put you guys on here. I don't know,

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I don't know if that's true, but maybe it's been.

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It was Bolivian and Alvin didn't come with that.

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Speaker 2: Wee oh yeah, it was like last week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much? Pretty much? Uh yeah, well we you know,

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we do. We do a lot of recordings, so I

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feel like sometimes, yeah, it does feel like, oh I

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haven't been on side Quest, but it's only because I've

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done fifteen other episodes since the last time I was on,

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just because of how much stuff we do. I guess

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that's maybe that's part of the reason why it feels

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that way. But today's episode should be a fun one,

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maybe a little short, and so we will see what's

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going on here. But we have a g T six

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trailer to break down as well as Gears War reloaded,

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maybe some of the games we've been playing, little Xbox

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discussion in there as well, So I think we can

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kind of get right into it here. Let's start out

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with a little GTA. Well actually, sorry, one quick shout

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out before we can get into GTA. Last week, Polygone,

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the video game news website, was bought by some big, nefarious,

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scary megacorp and they fired like almost everyone at Polygon,

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and it seems like they're gonna turn Polygon into like

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an AI like you know, regurgitating headline kind of thing.

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Well just too bad, like Polygon, Like you know, I

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don't really go to these sites very often, so I'm

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probably part of the reason why a lot of these

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sites get shut down is because like the traffic's lower

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and whatnot. But like, I don't really go to sites

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very often, but I usually do when I'm like okay,

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side quest. I don't have a lot on the topic

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side of things. I know, like sauce to boost this up,

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it's just like coverage of a news story or like

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something a little bit more interesting or something a little

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bit more niche. I really like their you know, outside

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of the just news stuff, but just some of like

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the I don't know what creative journalistic pieces they did too,

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to really exist anymore. There's still a few people on

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the team still making stuff, but I just don't know

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what the quality of Polygon is gonna be like going forward.

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and peace for a site that still exists and still

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has some employees. But it's really sad to see just

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how much that got decimated, and there's been so much

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of that recently. I don't often bring some of that stuff,

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you know, we talk about some of the layoffs and whatnot.

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then brought Game and four backs that sites back up. Now,

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Giant Bomb was also part of this purchase. It's like

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a podcast slust news thing, and then those employees like

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rights to it's like Giant bombs back. So all this

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weird stuff happens. Who knows what the future of Polygon

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will be. But I just wanted to say that's a

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real bummer, really sad, and yeah like that. I think

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just in terms of like the things you see us

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talked about here. So I often go jan I just

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does so much that it's like it's hard to find

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like Juicy Nuggets because they're just spam everywhere. And then

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these other sites, they're okay, and I like some of them,

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but even another one I used to use, twin Finite

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back in the day, just turned into like just spamming

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or year, like these video game websites kind of get

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more and more scarce. So you're you're Nigan guy, right,

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that's usually where you go for your your game.

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Speaker 2: Usually I'm usually n I got my Facebook Top Fan

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badge following.

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Speaker 1: Wait, how do you how do you get that? What is?

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Speaker 2: You comment like once on their posts and they give

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Speaker 1: It's it's nothing, one one post and you get a

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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like it's one one post.

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Speaker 1: So wow, that's that's that's too easy. That's like a

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participation award, Like that's exactly a little bit more. Okay,

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let's talk about let's talk about Grand Theft Auto here

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before we get into this trailer. I I just I

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feel like it's been a bit since we really talked

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about GTA, probably because like no new game has come

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out like Geek First era pretty much. Taylor, can you

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just remind me, like, what is your full history with

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this whole series, going back to like the first one

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you played? First memory kind of leading. I know you're

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a big GT five guy, but like give me the

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whole story leading up to GT five and now you're

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I guess your hype leading into six. Man.

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Speaker 2: My first time with GTA was GUTA four. I remember

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during high school go to my friend's house and just

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being able to go to the airport, getting helicopters flying around.

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I just I was blown away at how freeing this

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game was.

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Speaker 1: Just what you could do, it was incredible.

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Speaker 2: You just do anything, do whatever you want, and it

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kid in high school. And so it was shortly after

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that I went to eb Games and picked up and

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I still have it on the original Xbox San Andreas.

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I think it was Vice City and GTA three and

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I played the Daylights out of sant and Dres because

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all my friends are telling me about how it was

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such a great game. I absolutely love sant Andres. It

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was so much fun. And I did buy four eventually,

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but I didn't play much of the story. I just

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bought it just to muck around and have fun with.

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But then GTA five was coming out and I wasn't

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gonna get it. My friends they're like, oh, we're getting that.

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This is gonna be huge, and I was like, okay,

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lineup was huge, and that's where I had my UFO experience.

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the line, I was like, I'm gonna drop some coin

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and buy it. And I remember playing the appisode of

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Daylights Out of that game. Oh my god, I was.

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I was. I was clocking in like ten hour shifts

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playing playing that game, sometimes back to back daily because

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of free income. You're living at home with your parents.

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you aren't old enough to what you are old enough

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to be on your own, but you're not in any

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rush to be on your own. Like that was. That

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was a sweet time. And yeah, holy crap, I remember

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then the online online rolled out shortly after. I remember

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there were so many problems no one could get online,

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and when you finally did get online, like your progress

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might not be said it was an absolute nightmare. But

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I had an absolute blast, and there were so many

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bugs and glitches you could exploit on just getting so

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much money and everything and in closing, like I managed

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to sneak up to level two hundred and four, And

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I'm so mad that I didn't take the opportunity to

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migrate my character online to next Gen when I had

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the chance. I wish that I did so I could

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go back and indulge in that. But it doesn't matter

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now because we got the next GTA coming. So yeah,

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oh and yeah, shout outs. Our crew was the chalk

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outlined rebels. That was me and my friend's crew.

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Speaker 1: The outline rebels.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when you have like a crime victim

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or on the ground and you chalk around you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys made that name or was that

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like one of those random Xbox names that you can generate.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember. I can't remember what if I feel.

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I want to say we made it up, but I

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Speaker 1: A while ago because when I hear chalk, I I

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think of like that would make you like a cop,

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a cop. Well maybe, I guess do people do r

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RP as like cops and stuff the G two line,

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You were you were rebels. Yeah, you're keeping your name

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ambiguous to the cops. You know, didn't sniff your trail.

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is back in Miami, and stuff like Vice City is

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not one you've ever dabbled in. You ever played the

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original time that GT was here?

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Speaker 2: I have, I have Vice City, but I didn't I

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haven't broken into that one. I haven't even broken in GT.

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one was the one that I fell for.

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on PSP. If not, that's just like a weird false

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memory I've created, but I seem to remember like just

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playing at a friend's house and then yeah, Gt. San Andres,

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taboo for me to play it at my age, so

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house and they have an older brother and their older

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brothers playing San Andreas. And then eventually later on, like

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of messing around in this world. So but even San Andres,

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so pretty foggy on like the details of those games,

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San Andreas and other streams and things like this. But yeah,

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those games, you know were kind of just these taboo

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like I could never own them, but it was always

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a cool experience when I got to play them. Then,

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for whatever reason, I've just like not gone back as

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an adult to like revisit these games, probably in part

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because of that GTA trilogy they released was such a

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like such a I don't know, they just pooped it out,

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like they put seemed like they put very little effort

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into that trilogy remake and just looks really weird and

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all that. So maybe I will get that, maybe it's

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started at like probably playing at my cousin's house, one

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of those things we play all night long and then

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having friends over, and yeah, we would just do the

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same thing, like do the airport runs or like you know,

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popping the cheek codes and see who could like survive

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the longest on like just you know, putting the cheat

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then just seeing how long you can last when you

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get to like five stars and all this stuff. And yeah,

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just the game I played like front to back and

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endlessly would come back to for like years and years

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Speaker 1: I don't need to like convince my mom or something

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like this to to go get the game for me.

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in that game. I don't think I ever got like

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all the achievements, but I definitely did like an insane

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amount of single player stuff. Even remember it was like

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the Church, the Church storyline or something where you had

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to like in one of these achievements you just had

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to like run for a certain amount of time or

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I remember doing like everything in that game pretty much

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that you could, and then just totally hooked on online.

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I definitely didn't get to level two hundred, but played

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a lot of that game, and I think I really

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mostly played it before they did a lot of updates.

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they've done a million updates to over the years, and

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so I probably should go back to it at some

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point and check it out. But uh, those were really

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fun times, like just that truly online experience, because I

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get GT four had like online combat multiplayer, right, but

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I don't think you could just like cruise around the

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map with your friends. I might be wrong about that,

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but I don't remember ever doing that. If that was

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the thing you could do, I don't remember either, And

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I ever played the deals. I think I just always

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I forget what the full thing was called there, but

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those are pretty juicy from what I understand, so I

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should probably go back and check those out. At some point.

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I've been thinking Taylor, like, could we do a retro

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of some kind of Grand Theft auto before this game

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comes out next year? Like would we just pick one game?

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Would we dabble and like all of them? Rather than

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like saying, oh, you got to beat the story and

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spend one hundred hours in each of these, Like, let's

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just spend ten fifteen hours in each one and do

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an episode Like I don't know how would we tackle that?

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And I think Vice City would be an interesting one

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to do because of the setting of this, But I

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also like, I don't know how old, Like if we

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want to go back that that far, what do you

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think we should do? Like should should we tackle this?

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And how should we tackle it? Oh? My planning on

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air for the listeners right here, it.

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Speaker 2: Would be a lot of fun to just gather all

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together and just pop in like Y City, San Andreas

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and SA three, just those that trilogy of GGA games,

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but namely just by a city, because you make a

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great point on its ties to GTA six. I think

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that would be a lot of fun to go back

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and play one of the older ones. Even though it

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probably hasn't aged the greatest, I don't still think it

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could be very enjoyable as a group playing it together.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I think that could be Uh, that

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could be interesting. So I'll look into those remaster trilogies

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see if like they're better now or if they're still

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as bad and buggy and whatever as they were when

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they first came out, like this last year, two years ago,

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whenever that was. But uh, stay tuned for that. But

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getting into GT six here, this is the second trailer,

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still no gameplay. Everything in here is a cut scene,

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although it seems like it's in engine cut scenes rather

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than like CGI cut scenes, so at least gives you

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an idea of what the game will actually look like. Like,

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you know, I've seen a lot of people talking about

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like the shots or scenes we're getting here very much

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seemed like those shots that happened right before the camera

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like zooms out into the third person view and you

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just take over. So it seems like, Okay, a lot

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of these are like moments before gameplay, we're just not

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actually seeing like someone using a controller to like to

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control what we're playing here. That's at least the take

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I got. But you know, what did this also? First

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of all, last week in Kirk, when we're talking about

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how the delay happened, and in that we were both like, yeah,

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it might be a while before we get a trailer

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or an update on GTS, that's you know, And then

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the trailer dropped like hours after we dropped the episode.

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Of course, that always happens. I just thought they would

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maybe take some time. But I feel like it's one

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of those things, you know, pretty classic. Put up the

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bad news and then put up some good news a

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few hours or like a day later, and then just

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cover up all the bad news. Everyone mad about the

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delay now they don't care because they can froth over

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this new not gameplay, but new trailer. I guess for

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the next you know, a few months until we get

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something else to chew on. But yeah, what did this

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trailer do for you? Did it increase your hype level?

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Same hype level. I'm gonna assume it didn't decrease, but

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I don't know, Maybe he did it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it definitely didn't decrease. I know that

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the trailer is equal parts how they say it, Yeah,

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gameplay and cut scenes, and that's cool, but I would

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like to see I'd like to see actual, like just gameplay. Gameplay.

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For me watching this, it's just like, Okay, it's some

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story beats and all that. That's kind of fun. It's

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it looks you know, world building and everything. Just get

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to see every the land, lay of the land and

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all that. It's cool, But there's a certain peak line

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that I cannot exceed with a trailer like this. I

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need to actually have that full immersive gameplay. I want

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to have the up someone on stage telling me like, Okay,

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here's your guy, here's your girl, and oh look there's

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a vehicle you're gonna hop in there. Oh we're gonna

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just like go to the airport. We're gonna take off

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and we're gonna do this heist and we're gonna do

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this like, oh, we're gonna do all this crazy shit.

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And the best part is it's all free to play. YadA,

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yadh YadA, well, not not free to play. What's the word, Oh,

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my goodness, free roam is what I meant to say

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the game is not going to be free to play. Yeah,

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that would be crazy. That would definitely be something that

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would expedite my my hype levels. But everything that was

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in here, it looked beautiful. It looked like they've been

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really working hard at this, and it seems it seems

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almost surreal, to be honest, because I do feel like

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GTA five was just around the corner, like last not

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last week, but only like a couple of years ago.

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So it's just it seems surreal to me that, hey,

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we're on the cusp of getting GTA six already. Yeah,

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it's just it blows my mind a little bit.

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Speaker 1: GT five feels recent to.

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Speaker 2: You, it does, it really really does.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. I think you're the only person in

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the world who has that tape. I as the hottest

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take I've ever heard on all of these tens. I

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think it's a ten year old game, isn't that twenty thirteen?

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So twelve twelve.

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Speaker 2: Years at this point does not feel like thirteen.

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Speaker 1: By the time this next one comes out, you know,

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you have Red Dead in the mix in between there

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to break up that you know, long Rockstar gap. But yeah,

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GTA it's been. I mean, you know, to your point,

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GT Online getting kind of constant updates and new content,

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probably as there's probably new content for it this year.

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I you know, it's been a while since I've kept

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up with it, But in that way, I can see

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what you mean where they've really kept GT five alive

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and then of course keeps getting you know, new versions

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for whatever new console's coming out with, like better frame

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rates and you know, resolutions. I think, so, yeah, to

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your point there on your side of things, yeah, they

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have at least kept it very modern, so it doesn't

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feel like it's been some old, stinky scrap heap like

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they have updated it, give it some fine tuning in,

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grease the wheels, that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this really changed my hype level a

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whole lot. Still very hyped for it, but I think

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I think, if anything, my hype decreased a little bit

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just because of the delay in terms of like, OK,

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I'm going to wait a bit longer, so I'm just

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trying to keep my expectations in check. And then the trailer.

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It's funny because like you know, I saw everyone talking

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about it and listen to some other podcasts people breaking

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down the trailer, but I hadn't actually seen it myself

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until like two hours ago. So I feel like by

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the time I actually watched the trailer, I was kind

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of like knowing what to expect. It is, like, of

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course it's gonna look gorgeous, but there is obviously a

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lot of details, a lot of quick cuts, and so

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a lot of people online have kind of, you know,

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making some theories like, oh, what could this mean? Is

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this a mechanic or is this just like a cutscene thing?

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So I wrote down a big list here like random stuff.

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But I think the thing that actually got me a

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little bit more hyped, funnily enough, was going to the website.

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Have you been to the website for this game? Taylor

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no is it? As a guy who likes creating websites,

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you are gonna like the interactive like this is a

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video game. This this this has more gameplay in it

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than the trailer did. Like that's that's it's they really

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went above and beyond where you go on here. You

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kind of scrolled down. It kind of brings images in

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in real time, and then you can like click on

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certain things and scroll left and right between them, so

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you kind of get like a glimpse of all the

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characters and like essentially like their one or two sentence

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premise of like here's what the character's story is or

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here's their setup, and then like you know, getting interstitials

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of like seeing the different locations. So it's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: How much money did they spend on this game?

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Speaker 1: Again, dude, I I and this probably might be the

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most expensive game ever made, So I don't know, I

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don't know how much a game that was.

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Speaker 2: The most expensive website ever made too. On top of that,

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it was at least a billion for this. Oh my god,

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I've never seen a website like this before.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. It takes a long time to scroll

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down all of you too, just because of how much

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stuff is like loading. It like legs your computer out

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by going through this website. So if that's any sign

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of what the frame rate of the game will be

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like on consoles, if it's leg you know, my web

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browser just to run this website. So yeah, I think

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the thing that got me more hyped up with this

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and not necessarily the characters, because you know, when I'm

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in the game and I'm actually hearing the voice actors

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and I'm seeing their performances and the crazy antics are too.

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That's when I'll get more attached to the characters. For me,

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it was more the locations in there. They really show off,

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like here's like five or six of the key kind

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of spots, one of them being the key so you know,

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good pun there. But of course you have like the

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main city hub. But then you also have like it's

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more i don't know, different kind of zones, so we'll

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break those down again as well. But yeah, that website

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I think increased my hype a little bit. So overall,

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I'm I'm the hype levels increasing, but I'm still I'm

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always a gameplay guy when it comes to these trailers

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for the most part. And yeah, I'm just excited to

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see a little bit of that footage. I really want

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to see what like cars moving around looks like I

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can I can guess what they're gonna look like. But

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you know, that's always a tension of GTA is like

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if you go back to an old GTA game, the

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gun combat always feels atrocious and the driving always feels atrocious.

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When you go back to these things, like they just

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don't age super well. Whether it's like GT four's vehicles

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that feel like everything's on ice, and then just like always,

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the gunplay feels like it's you know, behind the other

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contemporary third person shooters of the time. So that's why

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I want to see a little bit more gameplay and

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just get a vibe of how I'm sure the gameplay

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is gonna feel gret because the GTA game like, they

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always feel good in real time, but then when you

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go back to them, like a couple of years later,

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it's they always feel a little creaky, right, But I'm

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hoping that this one will be top notch, and I'm

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sure it will if they've put this much budget and

475
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everything else, I'm sure, you know, the car mechanics and

476
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,880
gun mechanics are just gonna be top notch or at

477
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,480
least like good enough with like the the you know,

478
00:19:45,599 --> 00:19:49,799
current Triple A games that we're seeing everywhere. H So

479
00:19:49,839 --> 00:19:52,240
obviously we didn't really get gameplay, but there's a lot

480
00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:53,839
of things that we can look in here and be like, oh,

481
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,319
we're gonna get gameplay that is like that was there

482
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,960
anything off the top of your head from this trailer

483
00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,400
that like really stood out to be like, well, I'm

484
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,240
excited to do that or excited to see that location

485
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,440
or this type of combat or this mini game. I

486
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,160
don't know what got you most hyped, if anything from here.

487
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,559
Speaker 2: Uh, I mean to be honest, I i'd say the storyline.

488
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,640
I feel like this. I don't know exactly the specifics

489
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,559
between these two characters. If you're switching back and forth

490
00:20:21,599 --> 00:20:23,359
like an assassin' sweed syndica kind of thing. I haven't

491
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,759
looked into that, so I don't actually know, but I'm

492
00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:27,279
just assuming you are. But the dynamic of this girl

493
00:20:27,319 --> 00:20:29,119
getting out of jail and they're just going back into

494
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,880
these doing these heists and whatnot. I'm hoping that that

495
00:20:32,039 --> 00:20:35,720
is a feature that they're pulling over from GTA five

496
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480
because the heist was a heck of a damn good

497
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,480
addition that wasn't there at launch either. That was something

498
00:20:40,519 --> 00:20:44,240
they implemented a little bit after the fact. So not

499
00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:46,480
just petty crimes, but heists. I want to see that

500
00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:51,480
mechanic come back, for sure. But yeah, a lot of it.

501
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,559
A lot of it to me just looks very familiar

502
00:20:54,039 --> 00:20:56,319
in terms of just getting up to and everything like that.

503
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,880
I think other things that they put in there is

504
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,240
probably just a lot more world building dynamics, like just

505
00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:04,400
like parades or just people doing their own things. Like

506
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,359
usually in GTA it's like, oh, people are walking, people

507
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,039
are driving. That's probably one of the basic line, baseline

508
00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:12,160
things with an AGTA game. But now it seems like, Okay,

509
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,119
there's actually like a world that things are unfolding, things

510
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,279
are happening like sims almost right, Like those characters NPCs

511
00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:21,640
are actually doing living lives, which is I think is

512
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,759
pretty awesome.

513
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny you mentioned that it was like

514
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,319
one of the things that blew my mind so much

515
00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:29,240
about the GTA five trailers, and then when I finally

516
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,400
played the game, was just like, oh, yeah, this NPC

517
00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:33,240
might be like smoking a cigarette, or they might be

518
00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:35,599
holding like a thing of French fries or a soda,

519
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,160
and you can just like go up and like push

520
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,880
them and then like drop the thing on the ground.

521
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,079
And I know it seems like a kind of small

522
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,799
detail now, but I remember just the little details like

523
00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:46,279
that blowing me away in terms of the realism of it,

524
00:21:46,319 --> 00:21:49,160
and just made that feel so much more immersive because

525
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,599
the people, you know, didn't feel like little lines of

526
00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:54,200
code walking around. They did feel more like people that

527
00:21:54,279 --> 00:21:57,319
inhabited this place, and I think you especially need that

528
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,640
in a world like GTA, which is very absurd. Humor

529
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,920
is very over the top, and it's it's very silly

530
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,880
at times and obviously are like a lot there are

531
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,200
dark moments too, But I think when you like have

532
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,039
those level of those things, those little details of realism,

533
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,079
it kind of like brings you back down to reality

534
00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:13,880
at any given time. And that was one of the

535
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,160
things I see a lot of people talking about this

536
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,799
with like uh when so Jason and Lucia are the

537
00:22:17,839 --> 00:22:19,359
two many characters here. When he's like walking to the

538
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,599
liquor store and like his he has like a case

539
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,359
of beer and like you can see the liquid in

540
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,880
the beer bottles, like you know, having like full on

541
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,680
physics to them rather than just being like one static object.

542
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,799
So like that that kind of reminds me of like

543
00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:33,680
the cigarettes and like popcans from like GPA five in

544
00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:36,519
terms of the level of like realism that we're getting there.

545
00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:38,880
And then another I have a bunch of ram notes here,

546
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,440
so we'll just start plowing through some of these. But

547
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,519
one of the things that I've seen, you know, some

548
00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:45,599
people talking about are theorizing is you know, I don't

549
00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:47,680
know if you remember this back in San Andreas, but

550
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,480
you could like go to the gym and like work

551
00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:52,359
out and it would like improve your you know, your

552
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,119
stats and you'd get more buff. Or if you just

553
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,119
went to like Clucking Bell or whatever it's called and

554
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,000
just loaded up on burgers, your character would become like

555
00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:02,160
fatter over time. And like I just there's a few

556
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,200
different shots of Jason here where he looks more or

557
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,960
less Jack than he does at other times. And I

558
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,079
guess if these are like in game, these aren't like

559
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,279
CG cut scenes, but like they're you know, based off

560
00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:14,799
of you know, like they're in engine cut scenes, if

561
00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:16,440
that makes sense, Like it would like based off what

562
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,279
your character model looks like at that given time. So

563
00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:20,319
it seems like that might be something they're bringing back

564
00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:21,720
where you and you know, there's a couple of shots

565
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,319
of him like at the gym, him Lucy like at

566
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,279
the gym working out and stuff, and I could see

567
00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:27,200
that feeding really well with the Miamis setting too. But

568
00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:29,519
like bringing back that kind of thing, it kind of

569
00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:31,079
binds me of like I remember it was a big

570
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,359
talking point with red Dever redemption as goofy as it

571
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,359
was that like in the winter, like the horses balled

572
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,039
with like freeze like strin and stuff like that, right,

573
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,960
And it feels like that could be a thing or like,

574
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,039
you know, I could even see that being a like

575
00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:46,720
them adding like a sun tan physics thing to this

576
00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:48,440
game as well, since it is Miami and people are

577
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,599
getting sun tan just based on like I don't know,

578
00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:52,359
time of year or whatever it is, like maybe you're

579
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,799
getting more and more red or crispy around the edges

580
00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:56,759
or not. I don't know if there's gonna be like

581
00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:59,200
seasons in this or whatever. But yeah, those those kind

582
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,079
of things really stood to me of just being like

583
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,200
I think it'd be really cool to bring back like that,

584
00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:06,279
specifically that working out mechanic. That could be an interesting

585
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:07,880
thing or just like other I forget what the other

586
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,440
stats were in San Andres that could like EBB and

587
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,720
flow like that, but I think that'd be really fun

588
00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:13,279
to have a feature like that in here.

589
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,079
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

590
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

591
00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:16,599
Speaker 2: And I didn't even I didn't even click on that

592
00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:18,599
with the trailer. That's a good observation, but the different

593
00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:20,640
body size and whatnot, and I totally forgot about that

594
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,640
mechanic and San Andreas where you can overtime shape your

595
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,759
your character's physique. That's actually that would be really cool

596
00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:29,920
to see that come back, because yeah, in retrospect, that

597
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,559
wasn't in GTA four, And I feel like at times

598
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:35,359
GTA four maybe had a little bit lesser of stuff

599
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,039
compared to San Andreas and Andreas I feel like has

600
00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:40,160
a lot more going on for and then five had

601
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,079
a fair bit.

602
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean good. I feel like probably most

603
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,160
people's favorite who have played all these games a lot,

604
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,799
is San Andreas. So I don't know what the reasons

605
00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:52,519
are exactly for that. I'm sure like the workout mechanic

606
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:54,920
isn't the sole reason why, but it's like a little

607
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,279
part of what made that game special among with its

608
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:01,440
great story or you know, all the other things about it. Yeah,

609
00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:03,920
I think you know, it'd be it'd be cool if

610
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,640
we kind of dip into the well of Like obviously

611
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,160
they're gonna go back to grab some things from Vice City,

612
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,480
I would imagine, just because of the same setting, but

613
00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:12,480
you know, it's good back to go rethink all these

614
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,720
games that they've done in the past, what are the

615
00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:15,720
strengths or weaknesses of each one, and like, how can

616
00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:18,799
we bring all that stuff in and make it purposeful.

617
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,599
Another thing that can you remind me in GT five?

618
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,119
Like could you swim underwater? Or could you only swim

619
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,160
on the surface of water?

620
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: I want to say you could swim under Oh no, I.

621
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,799
Speaker 1: Have a distinct memory of like a scuba mission, but

622
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:34,880
I don't know if that was just like or not

623
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,599
a scooba a submarine mission. But I don't know if

624
00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:38,720
that was just one mission where you're underwater and it

625
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:40,920
was like a set piece, or if the world always,

626
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,839
like you know, has a model for what it looks

627
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,640
like under the water and you could swim down there.

628
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,400
I don't remember, Like, I don't really remember swimming underwater

629
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:49,440
other than that one submarine mission.

630
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:53,759
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I'm not sure. All I remember is

631
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:56,839
a submarine mission. I don't I don't see people swimming underwater.

632
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,400
I do know that there was that submarine. You could

633
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,240
transport it to a lake and if you get it

634
00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:05,920
to the lake and go underwater, then there's like a

635
00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:07,599
UFO or something at the bottom of the lake.

636
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: I think, oh, okay, Yeah, So it's weird that like

637
00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:13,359
they spent for what is like one vehicle and I

638
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:15,200
know you're probably not using very often. It seems like

639
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,759
they still modeled a lot of like the underwater sections

640
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:20,480
to it. But I think, you know, more so than

641
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,519
uh oh yeah that UFO there is that a real shot.

642
00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:26,720
That's real huh.

643
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: That is on yeah, the Easter Egg and the game.

644
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, I remember that was always a big

645
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,880
mystery of like the Aliens and all that. There was

646
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,640
like the big Foot in there too, right. I love

647
00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:37,519
it that they do some weird like more cryptid stuff

648
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:39,759
as well, I'm sure as well, But yeah, I feel like,

649
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:41,240
you know, with the Miami setting and a lot of

650
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:42,960
beach vibes here a lot of water. Of course, these

651
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,039
games always have water because they're always like surrounded by

652
00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:47,559
it's always like a make believe continent and just dropped

653
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,960
in the middle like an endless ocean. Right, But I

654
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,039
feel like, you know, especially for Miami and like the

655
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,279
beach weather and people being on boats and stuff all

656
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,519
the time, it makes a lot of sense if they

657
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:58,720
were maybe going for more underwater stuff. And like one

658
00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,759
of the shots I forget if it was in the

659
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:01,759
trailer or just one of the screenshots on the website,

660
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:03,839
but there's like a scuba a scuba shot where the

661
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,720
character's got full Scooba gear on. I don't know what

662
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:08,039
character it is, and they're swimming underwater. So whether that

663
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,759
is a mini game that you're doing and you got

664
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,279
to go collect stuff and it's just like one of

665
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:13,240
the activities you can do. These games always are filled

666
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:15,960
with activities, or if you can just swim underwater at

667
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,000
different times and there's more mechanics down there. I don't

668
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,599
know if that's something that'sarily like sites me. It seems

669
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:21,720
like it'd be kind of slow and not that interesting,

670
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:24,279
but it just in terms of variety and like really

671
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,200
setting you in the location of the game, I think

672
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,920
that would be pretty cool. Some of the other things

673
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,839
that I saw here some breakdown, like some of the

674
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:36,200
other activities that seems like the game has play pool,

675
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,400
you can go fishing, kayaking, so you know, other water

676
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,279
based things there, scuba, you know, dirt bike race actually

677
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:44,599
there's gonna be a lot of racing in general, and basketball.

678
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:46,279
I don't I don't know, I don't know. I didn't

679
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:48,279
see this myself. I just saw this on a breakdown.

680
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:49,920
I don't know if it was a screenshot, if there's

681
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,559
like a footage of like actual basketball game. But that

682
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:54,519
would be cool because Gdafi, I've had tennis, had golf.

683
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,079
I can't remember for any other sports. I know, you know,

684
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:00,519
if we go back to GD four, we had bowling

685
00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,720
because what's his name? The cousin always wants to take

686
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:06,839
Nico bowling, but I can't. I can't recall other sports

687
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,799
we've seen in the series, but definitely not basketball. I

688
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:10,359
don't think that's ever been done. Even if it's just

689
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,559
like playing horse or shooting hoops and not a full game,

690
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,680
that's still, you know, kind of a fun addition. It

691
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,359
seems very Miami coded as well.

692
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's pretty unique. I remember

693
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:23,359
you're jogged a memory I have. There was this video

694
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,200
I was watching with this guy who's pranking his dad

695
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,920
and he made his dad think he was playing like

696
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,759
PGA Tour, but he was just like golf in GTA

697
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,240
five and his dad was like, what's going on because

698
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:39,880
he was getting violent, brutal. Yeah, but the basketball, that's

699
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,559
that's actually a pretty cool, cool addition.

700
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure this game will of golfing too. I think

701
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:46,039
there'll be I would think Carson, I think it's a

702
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:49,319
very Miami thing. As someone who's I guess I've been

703
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:50,880
in Florida, but I don't think I've been to Miami,

704
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,440
So what do I know? Okay, so I think highlighting

705
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,640
some of the areas. One they kind of showed off

706
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,000
once again. A lot of this is from the website,

707
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,559
but I'm sure there's shots of it in the trailer

708
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,960
for those with keen eagle eyes like legalists. But one

709
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,119
of the areas is more like swampy gator area. And

710
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:09,400
one of the things that stood to me is, like

711
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,880
I said, there's like a couple shots of like, you know,

712
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,960
there's probably little boats you can drive through there, but

713
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,720
also just like vehicles, you know, the water will be

714
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:16,160
up to like the top of your tires kind of thing.

715
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,000
But just driving through these kind of really shallow waters

716
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,920
fighting off gators like that seems like a fun area.

717
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:26,400
Super down for that. The one that really captured my

718
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,960
imagination is called Port Gellhorn, And I'm just gonna read

719
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,240
this description from the website because I love this description.

720
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,839
Cheap motels, shut down attractions, and empty strip malls won't

721
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:38,319
bring the tourists back, but there's a new economy in

722
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:42,359
this once popular vacation spot. It's fueled by malt liquor, painkillers,

723
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,039
and truck stop energy drinks, jump on a dirt bike

724
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:47,720
and hold onto your wallet. So like, I just I

725
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,079
can't wait to go to that area of the map.

726
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:50,960
But it's funny, like, you know, seeing the descriptions of

727
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,279
all these places, I can kind of graft onto it,

728
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,160
like what the equivalent spot is from GTA five. And

729
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,039
I think that's why I love that game and map

730
00:29:58,119 --> 00:29:59,839
so much, is because you have obviously, the city takes

731
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,559
up most of the south of the map, and that's

732
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:03,000
its whole region, but then you go up to like

733
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:06,200
Trevor's area and like the sandy like trailer park zone,

734
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,799
and then you kind of have like the wild mountains,

735
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:09,920
and then a couple of smaller towns up north. And

736
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,319
so I think in the first trailer, I don't know

737
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:14,680
if I really got that vibe from GTA six that

738
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,160
we're getting different locations, even though I'm sure there was

739
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,200
gonna be them, but I feel like getting kind of

740
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,720
confirmation of some of these different zones, it will make

741
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:24,119
it feel like one like a huge, big world because

742
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,920
you're gonna get these really distinct areas, but you're also

743
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,880
getting like some fun, kind of interesting ideas here, and

744
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,960
so I'm excited to go to Port Gellhorn. I feel

745
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,960
like I'll spend a lot of time there, you know,

746
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,480
with the uh, the what did you call it? The

747
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:39,279
chalk the chalk outline rebels. I feel like that's the vibe.

748
00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:41,160
I feel like you guys would be like home based

749
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,160
out in Port Gellhorn is my interpretation of your gang.

750
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:45,880
So I'm excited for that spot.

751
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:48,559
Speaker 2: I yeah, I did not. It did not click with

752
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,200
me watching the trailer that there are these different, very

753
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,119
unique specific locations. But until I looked at the website

754
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,759
and was kind of pruising through them, Leonida Keys, this

755
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,720
looks like the place I want to be, Like with

756
00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:02,039
I wanted that seaplane that's there.

757
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: I want to I.

758
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:05,359
Speaker 2: Feel like that's new. I don't feel like seaplanes have

759
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,799
been a thing in Grant Thef's Auto before. I remember

760
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,839
in five there was that I just called it the

761
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,759
AC went thirty. It was that big military carrier plane,

762
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,440
that cargo plane. I love that. That was fantastic, and

763
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,960
then yeah, they got some other other cool little things.

764
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,319
But seaplanes like this, just the mechanics of it, just

765
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:24,160
trying to like land on the water. I just I

766
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,079
can't wait for that.

767
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah man, Yeah, I mean I think this whole map

768
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,799
is probably gonna be a little more integrated with like

769
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,279
water intersperse between these different region where I feel like GT. Five,

770
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,799
like you know, it had like the big lake up

771
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:38,599
in like the middle north ish of the map, and

772
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:41,519
then it was just like coast around the outside GT.

773
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:43,799
Four like it's just New York. So I guess you

774
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:47,519
get like a couple like rivers essentially like between bridges.

775
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:49,839
But I feel like this map just because the location

776
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,279
will probably have water more intersperse. And yeah, for me,

777
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:53,960
the Keys definitely stood out to kind of being like

778
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,519
an archipelago sort of setting of like just these long,

779
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,279
sprawling like snakelike islands and stuff that are all connected.

780
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:02,839
I think it'll be really fun to navigate that. And

781
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,039
especially to your point, if we have like fun more

782
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,799
like interesting water vehicles or they got like the water

783
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,160
plane stuff like that, I think will be really fun

784
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,400
to go around those areas and that, like the screenshots

785
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,279
of that place just look absolutely gorgeous. So I can't

786
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,799
to just fly through there like two hundred kilometers an

787
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:20,880
hour and just like you know, hit some air and

788
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,799
then end up flying into the ocean, like that's gonna

789
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:27,799
be that's gonna be a good time. Mount Calaga National Park,

790
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,680
So this seems like this seems like the wild area,

791
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,759
like the Wild Zone where you know you're gonna be

792
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,839
traveling on trails. There's a lot more animals here, So

793
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,000
I don't know, I feel like we haven't seen a

794
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,720
lot of shots from like the trailer of this place,

795
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:42,119
maybe like off in the distance, but just some screenshots

796
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,839
from the website there. I think that's fun mixing up

797
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:46,519
the variety. But I'm guessing there won't be a ton

798
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:48,519
of quests in there, but it'll just be like a fun,

799
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:50,039
chill place. And I think that's a big part of

800
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,759
GTA is like most of the time you're not doing

801
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:55,039
a quest or doing a specific thing. For me, it's

802
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:57,359
just like roaming around, messing around, exploring. And I feel

803
00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:58,920
like that'll be a really fun place to explore. And

804
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,240
I'm sure they'll be a big foot in there, or

805
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,720
like some weird cryptid to find, maybe a squonk if

806
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,039
we're lucky, Taylor.

807
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:07,519
Speaker 2: Nice that would be that would be amazing.

808
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's all the regions from the website.

809
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,359
But yeah, I think also like you know, I'm sure

810
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:16,160
we'll get some fun kind of hybrid areas as those

811
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:20,160
areas collide with each other and we get those different locations.

812
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,960
There are a few more notes herees how would we

813
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,599
take our first break of the show. We'll be right

814
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:29,720
back to breakdown even more GTA six. All right, we

815
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:32,680
are back. The opening of the trailer has Jason up

816
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,720
on a roof and then he's talking to a guy

817
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,960
down as his truck there. That guy sounds like Stephen Root,

818
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,839
and I think that's a great casting choice for GTA.

819
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Now it could be a guy doing like his best

820
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,440
Stephen Root impression. But if it is Stephen Root, I'm hype.

821
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:50,160
That's Fukes from from Barry. That's you know, he's in Dodgeball,

822
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:52,279
he was in Office Space. He's he's a he's a

823
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,720
he's a classic, and he fits very much the vibe

824
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,880
of like these greasy GTA characters. Not that he's a

825
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,160
greasy guy. I'm just saying he fits the vibe is

826
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,079
and get out as well. So like I I think

827
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:03,960
if he's in there, that's exciting. Even if he's and

828
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,319
I think he's one of the people highlight on the

829
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:08,559
website that makes me think that he'll be a you know,

830
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,039
semi relevant character. You know, obviously he's not gonna be

831
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,480
main character playable or anything like that, but it seems

832
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:16,400
like he'll be around. So I'm excited for that. And

833
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:21,320
you mentioned Jason. Yeah, so Jason and Lucia, this is

834
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,840
a very different relationship to your point, than we've seen,

835
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,079
like a different in any other GTA game. Of course

836
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:27,920
there's been like a relationships and stuff, but never have

837
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,639
you played as two characters in a relationship. There's a

838
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,039
lot of sex in this trailer, and so I'm curious

839
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:36,880
if that's like a mechanic like in SIMS where you

840
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,280
can just go wu with anyone at any given time,

841
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,599
or if those are just like set story beats. But

842
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:43,519
it also makes me wonder, like what's the vibe gonna be,

843
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,480
Like are you flirting with people? Is there is there girlfriends?

844
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:48,920
Like what if you go hook with a prostitute? Is

845
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:51,679
Jason cool with that? If Lucia goes and hooks up

846
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,679
with like a Jiglo and like you know, port Gellhorn

847
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,760
or something like that, I'm curious to see what that

848
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:58,599
how that works. But I think it's a you know,

849
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,800
different dynamic to have like you know, I'm sure these

850
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,000
characters are filled with rage as they're going you're doing

851
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,599
all these bank robberies, But to have characters that are

852
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:09,039
like more based their relationships and we're based around love

853
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:10,800
and not being like the center part of the story,

854
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,039
one that's gonna of course lead to something super dramatic

855
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:14,920
and like Act three. Of course, you know, like one

856
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,239
or both of these people are dying, or one's gonna

857
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,280
sacrifice themselves or the other. But I think it's a

858
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,440
really interesting dynamic and to your point as well, I'm

859
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,400
curious to see if this is like GJ five or

860
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,920
you can just click the deep at at any point

861
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,800
and transition between the characters, or if it's like okay,

862
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,199
you play Lucia for ten hours here and then okay

863
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:31,960
you get a five hour section it is Jason, back

864
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,360
to Lucia for two hours, back to Jason for ten hours.

865
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,519
Like if it's story based in that way, I'm guessing

866
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:40,119
you aboth to switch between them on the fly. But yeah,

867
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:43,119
I don't know, really interesting, unique setup for these characters,

868
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,079
and I think it'll be make for a really fun

869
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:48,519
story and maybe a bit more of a cohesive story

870
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:50,880
than GGA five in terms of obviously those characters end

871
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,599
up working with each other, but I feel like from

872
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:54,679
the get go these two characters are gonna be working

873
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,400
alongside each other for pretty much the full time, right

874
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,320
mm hmm?

875
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean with GTA five, it was just Trevor,

876
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:06,000
was it Michael to start off with, and then you got, oh,

877
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:09,199
what was later on? Franklin later on? That's right?

878
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or no, Trevor is the third one, right, or

879
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,400
like you don bank robbery and then I think you

880
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,480
start as Franklin, then AD Michael, then AD Trevor, then.

881
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I can't remember fully. You might be right though, yeah, but.

882
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like it seems like Jason. It seems

883
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:32,119
like you maybe start as Jason, you do a couple

884
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:34,719
of things, you go get Lucy out of prison, and

885
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,159
then you know, you can probably play as both of them,

886
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:38,719
would be my guest. And then maybe there's certain points

887
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,440
in the story where like, oh, Lucy has been grabbed

888
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,199
by some criminals and she's type in a warehouse, so

889
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,639
you only can play Jason for a bit. So I'm

890
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,000
sure we'll get sequences like that as well, for sure.

891
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:48,920
Any you know, there's a lot of characters in this

892
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:51,119
trailer that we see a glimpse of. There's a lot

893
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:52,960
more on the website. There's any characters that are sending

894
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,079
it to you for me, like other than the you know,

895
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,800
Stephen Root presumed character, there aren't really any yet that

896
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,360
sent it out to me as being you know howighlights.

897
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,079
But I'm sure once again, once we actually get into

898
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:04,480
the game, that'll be pretty invested in some of them.

899
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: Oh, who's this one character that they mentioned? Ammunation. This

900
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,599
guy is apparently a returning figure, right.

901
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Ammunation has definitely been the gun store forever,

902
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,559
but I don't I don't recognize that guy specifically.

903
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is apparently I can't remember where his origins are,

904
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,599
but he's tied with the franchise of Ammunation somehow, and

905
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,199
now it looks like he's running the run on the show.

906
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get some people that were in Vice City,

907
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,800
but I don't even I don't even know. Maybe that's

908
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,079
too much of a deep cut to really want to

909
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:39,039
bring back those character. Maybe it'd be more like cameo

910
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,880
status for some of those Vice City people. But I

911
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,000
guess like Vice City was eighties, right, and then we're

912
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:47,679
in modern day here, so forty years have passed, but

913
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,760
you can get some old old Vice City people coming back, right.

914
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: Do you think we're gonna get And this is kind

915
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,800
of detouring off with the people because the one shot

916
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,039
in the trailer there was a sign that sits like hurricane.

917
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:03,239
I wonder, do you think you could see severe weather dynamics,

918
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,000
like all of a sudden, everyone's going underbunkers because you

919
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:09,079
got a hurricane coming into town. Frick.

920
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: I would love that. That's something I've never considered until now,

921
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,440
because you just get like, I can't remember there's like

922
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,719
thunderstorms and other GT games. I'm sure there are, but like,

923
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,159
I don't know if they have any mechanic in the

924
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:20,360
way that like Zilda, if there's a thunderstorm, like you

925
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,519
gotta make sure you put your metal weapon away. I

926
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:24,320
don't think. I can't think of that being the case

927
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,559
in any GTA game, but that would make sense for Florida.

928
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:30,000
But I also don't like, I don't think the web,

929
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:32,599
I don't think the buildings are gonna have like destructibility

930
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,679
like battlefield or anything. So I don't know what kind

931
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,480
of like I don't I don't know what that would

932
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:40,000
look like like, I don't how do you think that

933
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:42,159
would like take place of gameplay? Would it just be

934
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,159
chucking vehicles around and like killing you or like how

935
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:47,280
how would what would that look like from a gameplay

936
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,079
perspective on GPA.

937
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,079
Speaker 2: I could see them doing specific areas well. It has

938
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:53,480
a day and night cycle. I could imagine that maybe

939
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,000
if you're not in actually like the city areas, you're

940
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:58,679
out in the swampy parts, maybe that area is subject

941
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,519
to a little torneatoes or thunderstorms whatnot. Maybe if you're

942
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:06,239
out in the like the Keys, you're flying your your

943
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,320
seaplane and all of a sudden, like it's stormy and

944
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,880
a tornado HiT's, like, oh my god, we gotta move around.

945
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,440
I can't remember because I didn't play a lot of it,

946
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:17,360
but just Caused four had very serious weather dynamics, like

947
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,639
little tornadoes and stuff like that storm mechanics, So I

948
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:23,400
feel like maybe something like along those lines. But they

949
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,360
I don't think the storms hit everywhere, just only the

950
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,800
like exposed outer areas that are outside of.

951
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: Like city areas, So maybe something like that I could

952
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,079
see their, Like I think flooding to me makes sense

953
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:38,800
as one that's like a little bit less dramatic than

954
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,280
some of those, but could be quite really like it

955
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,800
could add to the immersion quite a bit, but it

956
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,159
also could be a good mechanic tide to like the

957
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,599
location and setting of the game. But I think like

958
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:49,079
certain areas like pooling with water could like you know,

959
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:52,559
interact with driving an interesting way, or even just like,

960
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,119
I don't know what the I don't know how severe

961
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:57,239
the tide is like the beaches here in Florida, but

962
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,719
I'm sure it like pretty drastically affects like how much

963
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,360
land is there. And I could see that being like

964
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,239
a time of day thing as well in terms of

965
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,440
like how much you know the tide going in and out,

966
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,159
and that could be really fun. Maybe there's like some

967
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:09,199
secrets that you can only get when tied it out,

968
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:10,960
and maybe that effects like maybe you could do a

969
00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:12,760
race where like the tide's coming in and out and

970
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,079
you have to kind of dodge through it. I think

971
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,079
that could be really fun. Or maybe even just like

972
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:18,599
some more severe waves could be an interesting thing. And

973
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:20,599
I'm not gonna go full tsunami here because that would

974
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,519
be pretty dramatic, but even just bigger waves to interact

975
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:25,480
with it could be cool, like maybe as surfing in

976
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,400
there as a as an activity that could be fun.

977
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,920
So yeah, I would I'd never thought about that before,

978
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,920
but I love that pitch. I would love to see

979
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:38,639
something like that. Yeah, okay. The last I just have

980
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:41,840
a couple of quick shoudows here is you know this

981
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,159
trailer reiterates that this game is only coming to Xbox

982
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,960
and PS five but no PC. Now. Of course it

983
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,039
will someday, but it's getting that delayed launch, which also

984
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:53,159
happened for GTA five.

985
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: Right.

986
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: Was it a full year? Was it a few months?

987
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: I think it was a full year?

988
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, So do you think that's gonna be the case here?

989
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,880
One full year? Twelve months ish between the PC version

990
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,079
and the console versions here?

991
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:08,199
Speaker 2: I think so? And I dare I say, I don't

992
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,599
think it's I don't think it's by accident. I think

993
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:16,320
it's probably has some design behind it to do it

994
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,719
that way. I feel like PC in general has kind

995
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,440
of always been I think third to the party and

996
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:23,960
next to consoles, which is funny because I feel like

997
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,599
PC is the one that can run these games like

998
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,519
beyond what consoles can, and maybe that's one of the

999
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:32,000
reasons why they have to just hold off at launch

1000
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:34,400
for a little bit longer for PC. But I just

1001
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,320
I feel like this is my design maybe to boost

1002
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,639
console sales at a time when the consoles are you know,

1003
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:41,719
maybe not selling very well right now. I don't know.

1004
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, they I bet what they

1005
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,599
I bet they look at the analytics. If you TA

1006
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,480
five obviously you know the second best selling game of

1007
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,559
all time, but I think the most profitable game because

1008
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,760
it's so less copies than Minecraft, but it's a lot

1009
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,760
more expensive than Minecraft. I think is how that works out.

1010
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,519
And I know for me personally, I bought the game

1011
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,440
on three six see when it came out, and then

1012
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,280
I bought it again on PC. A lot of people

1013
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,320
also maybe triple dipped and got it on like next

1014
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,320
the current gen at that time, you know, the post

1015
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,719
generation there. But I think there's probably a lot of

1016
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,840
people that did just that as well, because you know,

1017
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,199
get it to PC, get some mods in there, or

1018
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,079
just like you know, you can run a bit better

1019
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:19,920
than like the three sixty version and stuff like that.

1020
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:22,000
And I'm sure that's a huge part of their sales

1021
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,199
of GTA five is Yeah, we can talk about how

1022
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,280
many sales that have but you have to factor in that.

1023
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,920
I'm sure a lot of those are people who double

1024
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,880
dipped and bought the game multiple times, and that's why

1025
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,039
you know, that number is kind of inflated for like

1026
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:34,679
versus how many people like actually own the game potentially,

1027
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,760
And so maybe that's maybe they just saw, hey, that

1028
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,480
was a huge success of GTA five, even if it

1029
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:42,559
wasn't intentional, let's just do that again. Uh and uh, yeah,

1030
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,079
like delay that PC version. That also gives them more

1031
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:49,159
time to avoid the you know, inevitable onslaught of mods,

1032
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:52,119
and maybe that's something they don't want. Also, maybe he

1033
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:54,000
just looks good for the shareholders because they can, like

1034
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,960
two years in a row, have like huge numbers where

1035
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,480
they're like you know, launching on different platforms. So yeah,

1036
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:02,199
I'm sure there's a lot of reasons behind it. But

1037
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:04,199
also it's just easier to launch a game when you

1038
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,920
have less platforms, right, you have less bug fixing to do,

1039
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:09,559
less patching to worry about. You can work a lot

1040
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,360
of those bugs out and then like hopefully the PC

1041
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,840
version will be the best version when it's when it

1042
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,719
comes there, or have at least parody with like those

1043
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,039
patched versions of the game, so it'll come out stronger.

1044
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:20,239
So I think there, Yeah, makes a lot of sense.

1045
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,719
Switch to does it ever come to switch to? Is

1046
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:27,239
is it switch too powerful enough to run this game

1047
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,960
even if they like nerve it and make it look

1048
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,519
a lot worse, Like do you think that's something that

1049
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:32,280
we see or is it just switch to? Just like

1050
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,679
gets GT five and that's the announcement for GTA.

1051
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: I was laughing actually today because I mentioned that's my friend, like, yeah,

1052
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,800
when I get my my coworker, like when I get uh,

1053
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,599
I got that switch too, if we'll get GT on it?

1054
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:47,000
And he scoffed, like, no, no, no, that's not coming to

1055
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:48,679
the switch, not right away at least.

1056
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

1057
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:54,119
Speaker 2: I feel like we've seen GTA up here on Nintendo consoles, before,

1058
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:54,519
have we not.

1059
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: I believe the the Remaster Trilogy thing that came out

1060
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,239
recently was on on the Switch prior to that. I

1061
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,159
can't think of a single one. I'd be shocked if

1062
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,119
you know San Andres was on the Wii or something

1063
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:10,440
like that. Uh So, I think the only time that

1064
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:14,039
ever happened was probably that Remaster Trilogy a couple of

1065
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,599
years ago on the Switch. One. I think I.

1066
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: Don't think it's at the forefront of Nintendo too. Uh,

1067
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,360
like we need to get this on our on our

1068
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,559
console right away. That being said, I think that there

1069
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:28,039
is maybe some wiggle room for it to come at

1070
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:29,679
a later point in time. But you have to think

1071
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,039
storage wise, right, like how many micro SD cards going

1072
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,239
to buy for this this game to run?

1073
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: That's a switch that is a great point. And that's

1074
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,719
even something else you know, I was thinking about, Okay,

1075
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,679
would they Oblivion Remaster come to switch? But like that

1076
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,800
sucker is one hundred and twenty gigabytes, Like I don't

1077
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,000
think that can fit on a switch, right, Like what

1078
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:49,679
is the switches switch twos? Can you look that up

1079
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:51,239
from me real quick as I forget the number? But

1080
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,800
like the switch to is default hardware, Like they's just

1081
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,159
not gonna fit some of these big ass games, which

1082
00:44:57,199 --> 00:44:59,239
is you know, without you having to buy extra hardware,

1083
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,639
which don't think is some they'd ever do.

1084
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: It has two hundred and fifty six gigabytes of kernel storage.

1085
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so half that would be Oblivion, which you know

1086
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,320
we mean sometimes that like oh call of Duty, it

1087
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,239
takes the PLF your hard drive. But now like an

1088
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,599
Elder scrolls Oblivion like a twenty year old game that's

1089
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:14,840
taking to have your hard.

1090
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: Drive space, but you can't upgrade so you can get

1091
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,440
like one terabytes and stuff. I believe, like yeah, the card.

1092
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,599
Speaker 1: But I but I just mean, like, I don't I

1093
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:23,119
don't think we'll ever get to a point where like

1094
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,360
Nintendo wouldever sell a game that you can't just run

1095
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,320
on your switch by default, or you would need to

1096
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,639
buy extra storage space, like I guess technically they did

1097
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:34,199
the back in the GameCube bear right, like game Animal

1098
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,840
Crossing was a game that like required more spaces than

1099
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,519
like the default memory cards, so they had to sell

1100
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:41,639
it with the memory card. So I guess we could

1101
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:43,639
get something like that, but that would be crazy because

1102
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:47,039
like external external heart storage space is really expensive, So

1103
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:49,440
if they would ever do a packing for that, they'd

1104
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,840
be like, oh, yeah, buy this GT six bundle for

1105
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,440
like three hundred dollars or something like that would be

1106
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:57,239
kind of ridiculous, a little a little absurd, I think.

1107
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,239
So I don't know if we'll see that, but yeah,

1108
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,480
I think more like G five comes to the switch

1109
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:04,559
to and that will sell another forty million copies of

1110
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:06,760
that game. I'm sure, because you know what I'd probably

1111
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,400
buy it again for the fourth time. I think third time.

1112
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:11,239
How many times have I bought that game? A lot?

1113
00:46:11,559 --> 00:46:13,239
I need to buy it five times because then I can,

1114
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,800
you know, fill out the namesake. Do you think GG

1115
00:46:18,039 --> 00:46:21,840
six on the Xbox Series X and the PS five

1116
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,559
will it run or have the ability to run at

1117
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:28,119
sixty fps? Or is it going to be locked thirty

1118
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,440
or they have a hybrid motive you can switch between them.

1119
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: I think it'll it'll run.

1120
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: I think it will Okay.

1121
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: I think it's a big thing that next gen consoles

1122
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,559
try to release. The Xbox tries to stand by, right.

1123
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't deliver on it all. They're getting

1124
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:46,280
better at it. They are getting better at it, but

1125
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,440
I think it's because they've had so much backlash. But yeah,

1126
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,159
I feel like, I don't know if this is like

1127
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:53,280
the best looking game ever, has the highest fidelity ever

1128
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,960
of a game, like, I don't know, will those consoles

1129
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,800
be able to keep up and run it at sixty

1130
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,119
I you know, I think they'll just have to like

1131
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,920
remove make it look worse. I'm sure it'll still look gorgeous.

1132
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,800
And that's always been the case for me every game.

1133
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,320
I always pick performance mode for quality mode, and it

1134
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,360
still looks great. Like I can't think of a time

1135
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,599
where we're like, oh, this looks like crap because I

1136
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:14,880
turned the setting off. So yeah, we'll see, we'll see

1137
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,000
what happens there and then online. I don't think we've

1138
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:20,480
really got any confirmation of what's gonna happen with online.

1139
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:23,119
Maybe it's integrated with GT five's online. It's just like

1140
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:25,119
one continuous thing. Who knows what happens. But let's say

1141
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:27,440
that this game just follows the same trajectory GT five,

1142
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,639
where it has, you know, this single player game and

1143
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:31,800
then online releases later. I don't know. Do you think

1144
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,880
we're gonna get that? Is it gonna release with online

1145
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,320
day one? Is it gonna be a later release? What

1146
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,719
do you think is gonna happen here with GT six

1147
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,440
is online?

1148
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be not right away. I think

1149
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,719
it's gonna come after the fact.

1150
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,519
Speaker 1: Okay, do you.

1151
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: Remember GTA four what that was?

1152
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:48,559
Speaker 3: Like?

1153
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: I if they did that four because I know five

1154
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:56,119
they had that space in between. But I'm just wondering this.

1155
00:47:56,159 --> 00:47:59,159
It's a consistent thing between previous iterations.

1156
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think g T four just had

1157
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,400
like team deathmatch, kind of online. I don't think it had,

1158
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,880
you know, it didn't have obviously like GT five's level

1159
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,559
of online. God, I don't know, I don't know. I can't.

1160
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:14,480
I don't think I ever really played the online in

1161
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,639
that game, so I really have no idea even what

1162
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,079
it was like. It's not something I really experienced much,

1163
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:21,679
but I think it was unique what they did with

1164
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,719
GTA five. They're releasing it later if I'm not wrong.

1165
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, Yeah, anything else on GT six Taylor for

1166
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:33,880
today that was that was a lot that we just

1167
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,559
dove into there, and there's a lot more we could

1168
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,760
even though when I got like a two minute trail

1169
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,559
here with no gameplay, But that just goes to show

1170
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:41,920
how how excited people are for this game.

1171
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,039
Speaker 1: There's theories abound.

1172
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm excited to whip out, you know, the

1173
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,719
in game cell phone. And I can't if GT five

1174
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,719
had any cheat search because you get entwered. But I

1175
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,880
remember San Andreas was I'm just absurd for that, and

1176
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,000
then four had that too, like spawning helicopters.

1177
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: I think if I've had it, but it was a

1178
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,800
bit harder and I don't remember them being as bombastic

1179
00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:08,400
as the earlier games. I could be wrong, but I

1180
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,480
also know it like you couldn't make money and like

1181
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:12,440
disabled achievements. I think like it just did a lot

1182
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,320
of other annoying things that let me just use a

1183
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,840
cheek code, you know, just leave me alone.

1184
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. That's why I really loved send Andreas for that.

1185
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,960
Just like you get a tank and then flying capabilities,

1186
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,000
so you're flying around in a tank and it can

1187
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:29,440
shoot and just absurd, and you can.

1188
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: Use a dildo as a baseball bat. Right.

1189
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 2: I was on the police station and said the bathroom. God, damn,

1190
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:39,079
there you go.

1191
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:42,519
Speaker 1: There is there's a game, a little little known game,

1192
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:47,000
GT six. Howpo we take our let's like our last

1193
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,360
break of the show. We'll be back. We got a

1194
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:54,280
couple more topics for you, so one moment, Okay, we

1195
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,199
are back, and you know what else is coming back?

1196
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,760
On August twenty sixth is the release of Gears of

1197
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:06,000
War Reloaded, a remaster remake, a reload of the original

1198
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:08,840
Gears of War game, this time coming to all platforms

1199
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,960
instead of just an Xbox title. I'm not crazy tailor.

1200
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,920
There's no trailer, right, they just had like a blog

1201
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,039
post on some info.

1202
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: To my knowledge, yes.

1203
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: Okay, because I was going all up and down YouTube,

1204
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,320
I assume there was a trailer for this. It's really

1205
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,480
weird to announce this without a trailer, in my opinion,

1206
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,119
but Xbox has made a lot of odd choices in

1207
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,039
the last few years, So who am I to say?

1208
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,599
You're a huge fan of the series and this game

1209
00:50:29,639 --> 00:50:31,480
in particular, So how are you feeling about this?

1210
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 2: Are you?

1211
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: Are you hyped to the gills?

1212
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,079
Speaker 2: Do you?

1213
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:35,639
Speaker 1: Do? You not need this at this point in time?

1214
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:36,480
Where are you at with this?

1215
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:40,559
Speaker 2: I do not need this myself, but I know that

1216
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:43,840
there's a large amount of fans out there that definitely

1217
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,320
have been wanted to want to a remake for a

1218
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,280
long time. So I'm happy for them. I'm happy they're

1219
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,079
they're they're getting it. I feel like it's a classic

1220
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:52,880
for that original doesn't going back and playing it doesn't

1221
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,880
feel like it aged well. So there definitely is is

1222
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,880
a place for remake for sure. Uh. Gears, I remember

1223
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,079
I played a lot of Gears to multiplayer, but Gears

1224
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:04,960
three is where I jumped fully on board in this franchise.

1225
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,519
And after I beat Gears three, then I went back

1226
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:10,320
and I beat Gears one beat Gears two, then Gears

1227
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,119
War Judgment and then Gres War three and then four

1228
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:17,480
and five and then I didn't beat Tactics that one.

1229
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:18,519
That was a lot of fun, though, I.

1230
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: Really I gotta go back to Tactics for sure.

1231
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:25,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's definitely there's definitely an attachment to this

1232
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:27,760
franchise that I have. I really really love it, but

1233
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,000
I mean it'll be on Games Pass, so I'll probably

1234
00:51:32,639 --> 00:51:35,360
I could see myself dabbling in it, but I'm not

1235
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,280
in a rush. The thing that I'm waiting for is

1236
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,519
E Day, and I was kind of hoping that maybe

1237
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:42,679
we would get something for that. They don't even have

1238
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,880
a release date announced for E Day that they're saying,

1239
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,159
like be rumored for late twenty twenty five, maybe early

1240
00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:49,320
twenty twenty six. We don't have really anything on that,

1241
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:54,280
which is a shame. I feel like, maybe, ah, it

1242
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,360
makes sense if they put E Day out first, then

1243
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,480
people probably aren't going to jump to that remake. But

1244
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:00,960
in terms of storyline, for does it make sense E

1245
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:03,760
Day comes first, then fourteen years later in the timeline

1246
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,360
Gears War one takes place.

1247
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: Oh right, forgot it makes.

1248
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: Sense to kind of have it in that linearization narrative,

1249
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:16,920
but I think for popular popularity reasons and probably trying

1250
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,840
to get new people back into the into the full like, hey,

1251
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,280
check on this franchise. You can start at Gears of

1252
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,559
War one, then play Gears two and so forth. They're

1253
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:26,039
releasing it because I feel like if they do E

1254
00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:27,719
Day first, not a lot of people are gonna jump

1255
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,639
on the remake of the first one. But that's yeah,

1256
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,280
I don't.

1257
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah that's true. What if so this game's coming

1258
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,760
out August twenty sixth. What if that is a subtle

1259
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,519
little tease of a hint that Gears E Day is

1260
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:43,199
coming out in twenty twenty six the twenty sixth number.

1261
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,800
What if that's what if they're hinting at something there? Hmmm,

1262
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,119
hair brain scheme, timfoil hat, Like, where is that? Is

1263
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:53,679
that completely crazy? Or is this or is there some

1264
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,920
nugget of potential there?

1265
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,639
Speaker 2: I think there's a nugget of potential. I mean there

1266
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,360
what I'm saying about people talking about like Resident Evil

1267
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,440
and there's like the sign or something like, oh is

1268
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,079
this the next Resident Evil game?

1269
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: Right?

1270
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 2: Something?

1271
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:07,519
Speaker 1: It was a little more on the nose I think

1272
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,159
than this. Potentially, that's that's at least a few nuggets,

1273
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:13,760
But yeah.

1274
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: I feel like game devs like to have these things

1275
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,840
included in Companies like to put these things out there

1276
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,679
for people and fans to just kind of look into

1277
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,400
and decipher. So I would definitely add credibility to what

1278
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,800
you're putting down. I'd eat it.

1279
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:31,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see what day of the week. August twenty

1280
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:36,119
sixth is a Tuesday, which is a weird. I guess

1281
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:38,199
that's not too weird. Xbox hasn't been doing a lot

1282
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:40,039
of that, right, Tuesday is I.

1283
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,039
Speaker 2: Think that's a common release date for a game.

1284
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: Actually, Yeah, it's hard to keep up because they always

1285
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:47,280
now they every Xbox game comes out with like five

1286
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,280
day early access if you buy like the premium addition,

1287
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,360
so it's always hard to remember when these actual games

1288
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,079
come out these these days. Yeah. Yeah, Gears of War.

1289
00:53:57,159 --> 00:53:59,400
You know, it's been well treaded on geek first, but

1290
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,280
maybe not so much the side Quest era, but like,

1291
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,320
never really been my series. I've dabbled in it, but

1292
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,239
like I don't really I never really love the setting.

1293
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,559
I haven't really loved the gameplay. I think more where

1294
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:08,840
I have had a lot of fun with it is

1295
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,119
playing co op hord mode with friends, my cousin, all

1296
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:14,239
that kind of stuff. I just always liked, you know,

1297
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,920
Firefight and Halo and other tower DEFENSEI sort of hordemone

1298
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,760
type things, you know, zombies, all that kind of stuff.

1299
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,400
So I really liked that. But it's not want to

1300
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,079
really dabbled a whole lot. But because you know of

1301
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:27,079
game Pass here of course all the whole back catalogs

1302
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:29,320
on game Pass right now, and I haven't jumped into it,

1303
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,079
so like, what's gonna be different here? I don't know,

1304
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,760
but maybe I'll jump into this. Do you remember how

1305
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,239
long is this game? It's like a ten hour game,

1306
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:39,079
the campaign fifteen twenty. Because if it's ten like, I

1307
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:40,880
might just I might just finally do it. I might

1308
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,480
finally play through the full game start to finish.

1309
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:48,559
Speaker 2: I want to say it was ten I'm gonna confirm.

1310
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:52,079
Speaker 1: All the games in that era were Yeah, it was.

1311
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, ten hours, right, it takes around nine to ten

1312
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:02,199
hours to complete. I love those are games that you

1313
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,880
have to play because it's insane difficulty. You got to

1314
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,599
play on the hard difficulty and get through that and

1315
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,519
unlockxy insane difficulty. I'm I'm one that always plays in

1316
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:11,920
the harder difficult. I'm not doing these games. I love

1317
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,000
that challenge so much.

1318
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm playing through on easy mode and I'm I'm seeing

1319
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:21,320
the story and I'm walking maybe a medium maybe a medium?

1320
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:24,239
They what else do we got here? So this is

1321
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,880
you know, four K, it's gonna have one hundred and

1322
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,519
twenty frames, no surprise because Gears four, I believe has

1323
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,599
a got a four K one twenty. If it wasn't

1324
00:55:32,599 --> 00:55:34,519
already in the game by default, they passed it in later,

1325
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:37,119
So that's no surprise there. I didn't actually catch if

1326
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:40,360
this is coalition making this or if it's another studio

1327
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,599
making this, I don't know. Did they announce that or

1328
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:43,159
did you see that?

1329
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. Let's take a look.

1330
00:55:48,119 --> 00:55:51,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, this game also has cross playing between all its

1331
00:55:51,079 --> 00:55:52,840
platforms we'll talk about the platforms in a second, and

1332
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,800
also has all the DLC worked in, you know with

1333
00:55:56,199 --> 00:56:02,159
the Day one, So that's cool. While you look that up,

1334
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:03,840
I have another question for you, which is, do you

1335
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,400
do you remember the DLC in this because I looked

1336
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,360
up because you know, there's some multiplayer stuff of course,

1337
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:09,800
but do you remember like was there like a campaign,

1338
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,760
single player audition with the DLC as well for this game.

1339
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 2: Ah, my goodness, hard to make. Oh was there? Yeah?

1340
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,960
Because the Gears likes to do this. Gears of War

1341
00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:28,440
two had where you could pick different routes, and one

1342
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,039
of the routes that you could it was actually yeah,

1343
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:32,519
one of the roads you could pick was actually like

1344
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:37,400
DLC that they added in. Oh cool, okay, but for

1345
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:42,760
Gears one, Oh I don't remember. Hmm, okay, no, we

1346
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,079
can't recall. Did you find the Coalition thing?

1347
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:46,599
Speaker 1: Are you still?

1348
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:48,199
Speaker 2: Gears of War reloaded?

1349
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:48,599
Speaker 1: Uh?

1350
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 2: Developed by the Coalition and partnership with Szumo Digital and Disbelief.

1351
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I've never heard of Disbelief, but cool putting them

1352
00:56:56,039 --> 00:56:58,639
on the map a little bit. Also this because I

1353
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:00,920
didn't realize this, but I guess there're the Gears Ultimate

1354
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,440
Ultimate Version whatever a few years back, which is like

1355
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,840
a remaster of the original game. I don't really know

1356
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,320
exactly what it changed from the original one, but apparently

1357
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,559
if you own Gears Ultimate Edition on Xbox, you can

1358
00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:17,199
upgrade for free to reloaded, So I think that's really cool.

1359
00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:20,000
If you like bought this, you know, somewhat recent remaster,

1360
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:22,800
you can just upgrade to this version for free. You

1361
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,440
can't do it now. If you like buy the game

1362
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:26,719
Ultimate Edition today, you can't get that upgrade. It's only

1363
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,360
for people who've owned it prior to the announcement. But

1364
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,440
I think that's cool. Also, of course it's gonna be

1365
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,239
game passed, so it's pretty easily accessible for fans of

1366
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,239
this series. And you know, Xbox gamers have no problem

1367
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,239
finding this. But also for the first time no on

1368
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,960
Xbox gamers are gonna be having the chance to play

1369
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,039
this because it's also coming to Steam and PS five

1370
00:57:46,119 --> 00:57:50,360
the Evil PlayStation Sony Taylor, you've been kind of very

1371
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,320
much against xboxes push to put their games on other platforms.

1372
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,679
So how do you feel about this, which is like

1373
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,239
kind of the number two flagship series, maybe maybe two

1374
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,320
or three behind Fours that perhaps, of course will be

1375
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,760
number one Xbox series. How do you feel about this

1376
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,039
coming like day and date on PlayStation five, uh, and

1377
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:08,960
kind of no longer being an Xbox exclusive. And I

1378
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:11,519
think E Day is confirmed to be that that too, right,

1379
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:12,320
that it's also.

1380
00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:14,159
Speaker 2: Coming to I don't recall on E Day.

1381
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,039
Speaker 1: I'll look that up real quick. While you talk.

1382
00:58:16,239 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: What's interesting about this? And I've kind of warmed up

1383
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,679
to the idea, uh, because from my perspective, cross play

1384
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,079
I think is great. That's one of my most favorite things.

1385
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:26,920
But with with war zones, because we've all been able

1386
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,639
to play together with like Travis Emily Kirkland, you were

1387
00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:36,679
all sped across whether it was PC, PlayStation, Xbox, We've

1388
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:39,679
we've played across through different consoles together and so it

1389
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,519
makes that accessibility much much more better and intuitive. And

1390
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:47,639
so when you look at this situation and Xbox is

1391
00:58:47,679 --> 00:58:50,480
not going to be putting games past on PlayStation, and

1392
00:58:50,519 --> 00:58:51,239
maybe they will in the.

1393
00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: Future, I'm sure, yeah.

1394
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,239
Speaker 2: I just I don't think that that is going to happen.

1395
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:02,280
So in the meantime, hey, let's make money for our

1396
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,400
company by selling our games to PlayStation. And you have

1397
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,599
it's different where you have developers that make a game

1398
00:59:09,639 --> 00:59:13,840
for Xbox and PlayStation, but this is Xbox making like

1399
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:18,760
it's their game. They're making their game accessible on another console,

1400
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,519
and they're taking money away from Sony when Sony is

1401
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:23,960
making games too, and they're putting their games out. But

1402
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:26,639
someone's gonna someone could walk on the store and be like, oh,

1403
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,920
Desk Stranding two or Gears of War Remastered, And I'm

1404
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,480
sure a lot of people are gonna go desk stranding too,

1405
00:59:32,519 --> 00:59:34,039
but you know, you're gonna get a few people. I like,

1406
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:36,519
I'd rather get Gears of War right now. And that's then.

1407
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,599
You know, it all seems fine and dandy, but that's Xbox, like,

1408
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,920
that's a marketing ploy. They're taking money away from Sony

1409
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:45,440
by making their games available on there. I'm sure Sony

1410
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:48,440
obviously they've agreed to this, and they are they are

1411
00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:50,079
allowing this to happen. I'm sure.

1412
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:52,079
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Sony will get a cut of any

1413
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:56,400
of those sales if it's through their store, through the

1414
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,320
digital store. I don't know if you buy a physical

1415
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,760
version of Gears of wor reloaded if that even exists

1416
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,960
on PS five, I don't know if Sony gets a

1417
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,159
take of that. But if you buy it through the

1418
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:07,159
digital store, given that there's no competition, like it's only

1419
01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:10,280
PlayStation store on the PlayStation, of course they get it.

1420
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,079
They do get a cut of that. So yeah, they're

1421
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:13,880
you know, they don't have to make a game at all,

1422
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,360
and they make some money, so there is Yeah, that's true.

1423
01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:18,239
That's the other side of the token for sure.

1424
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:19,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1425
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:22,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I found this interesting I just

1426
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,119
learned about this today that the three best selling games

1427
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:30,679
on PS five and April Minecraft, Elder Strolls, four, Oblivion Remake,

1428
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,880
and fours A for A five I think recently just

1429
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,159
came to PlayStation. So the top three selling games on

1430
01:00:36,159 --> 01:00:39,119
PlayStation last month, we're all Xbox games. Now, Micro Minecraft's

1431
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:40,599
a bit of an exception. Of course, it is owned

1432
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:44,159
by Microsoft, but it was on PlayStation before Xbox owned

1433
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,519
that game in the first place. And then Oblivion another

1434
01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:49,199
weird case where like you know, that came when the

1435
01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:52,239
Oblivion originally came out, it was Xbox exclusive for a bit,

1436
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,480
but it wasn't first party. It came to PlayStation later on,

1437
01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:57,119
and so, you know, a little bit less case. But

1438
01:00:57,199 --> 01:01:00,480
Fourza definitely that's like Xbox Blood right there, and now

1439
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:03,719
that's kind of flowing through the system there and PlayStation five.

1440
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,280
So yeah, obviously, like Sony's making money, Xbox is making

1441
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,119
a lot more money selling these games on a platform

1442
01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:12,400
that's more successful than their own, and so it makes

1443
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:13,639
a lot of sense. And then I think, you know,

1444
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:17,400
my other argument or like I guess justification of why

1445
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:20,159
Xbox would do this is like the more they keep

1446
01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:24,119
adding these games to PlayStation. If somewhere down the road

1447
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:27,400
eventually Sony does agree to like let game Pass go

1448
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,639
on their system, well, now they have like a pretty

1449
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:32,000
big catalog of games that they can immediately put on

1450
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,440
that system, right, because you kind of have to get

1451
01:01:33,519 --> 01:01:35,960
rights for every platform you're putting it on. That's why

1452
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,519
some games only come to PC or maybe only something

1453
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:40,079
to come to console. Not usually it's because it's like

1454
01:01:40,119 --> 01:01:42,880
a PC exclusive game or whatever. But at this point,

1455
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,480
like Xbox First Party has what we're closing in on,

1456
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:51,440
like ten games because you have Fursa, Minecraft Oblivion, you

1457
01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:55,480
had that like High Fire Rush, Pentiment, Grounded Indiana, Jones

1458
01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:57,360
just came out. You got Gears of War later this year,

1459
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,239
So like ten to fifteen games there that if they

1460
01:02:00,239 --> 01:02:02,320
finally get that game Pass working on PS five or

1461
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,400
you know, Sony allows it, they already have like a

1462
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,039
catalog of games that can be their day one along

1463
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:08,719
with you know, making a bunch of deals and putting

1464
01:02:08,719 --> 01:02:11,079
other things from their back catalog there. So yeah, I

1465
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:13,360
think they're they're you know, setting the bed for that

1466
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,480
to happen. Someday. We'll see if it happens, and then

1467
01:02:16,519 --> 01:02:17,960
I yeah, I think we'll get even more of a

1468
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,719
push with the switch to of a lot of these

1469
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,559
Xbox games now, a lot of the like modern ones

1470
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,400
that are coming out this year next year probably can't

1471
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,280
run on a switch too, but a lot of like

1472
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,280
these games that came to the last few years probably can,

1473
01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:29,639
or like they can make a janky like you know,

1474
01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:31,760
a Nintendo fied version of it, like grounded out. It

1475
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,440
looks kind of like crap on the switch, but you know,

1476
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,360
you can still play Grounded on the switch. I think

1477
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,719
we'll start see start to see a ton more of that.

1478
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,280
So and yeah, I mean even Sony right, obviously, like

1479
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,159
the PC push putting games like Horizon and now Pad

1480
01:02:43,239 --> 01:02:45,599
upon other things on switch, they haven't made the jump

1481
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:47,239
to Xbox yet, but I'm sure it's just a matter

1482
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,079
of time. So uh yeah, I think it's great for

1483
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:53,679
everyone to have more ways to play the games that

1484
01:02:53,719 --> 01:02:55,159
they want to play. I think it's great As someone

1485
01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:57,280
who has all these consoles, I don't really care if

1486
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,239
you know, Xbox puts their stuff also for me. For me,

1487
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,239
it's just great for other people to have access to

1488
01:03:02,239 --> 01:03:04,239
these games in different ways. So and yeah, to have

1489
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,039
cross playing there for the multiplayer means that this game

1490
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:08,519
is gonna have, you know, a more active multiplayer scene

1491
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:11,000
for years and years to come. I don't know how

1492
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:13,000
top notch this reloaded is. I guess if it can

1493
01:03:13,079 --> 01:03:16,159
run one hundred and twenty fps is pretty top notch.

1494
01:03:16,239 --> 01:03:17,840
Maybe it can run a switch to If it can,

1495
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,960
I'm sure they'll put it there later on the road.

1496
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:21,519
We know that switch she does have access to do

1497
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:23,440
one hundred and twenty frames, but obviously that's like on

1498
01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:27,079
very select games, so we'll see what happens there. But yeah,

1499
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,880
any other thoughts on Gears of War or just yeah,

1500
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,840
any any of this PS five stuff that we're just

1501
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:34,599
talking about.

1502
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: Hmmm, no, can't say I.

1503
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,599
Speaker 1: Do, okay, all right, well then last kind of Xbox

1504
01:03:40,679 --> 01:03:44,840
thing here, last ish Xbox thing here. Xbox just announced

1505
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,519
last week that they are increasing the price of their

1506
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:51,119
console by one hundred US dollars as well as all

1507
01:03:51,159 --> 01:03:53,800
their games going forward or like in the next few

1508
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,000
months whatever are gonna be eighty eighty dollars USD going forward,

1509
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,719
so you know, convert that to Canadian for US or

1510
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,840
you know, whatever your local currency is. So yeah, you know,

1511
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,599
we were we kind of expected for years and years

1512
01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:09,320
ago eventually console consoles drop. Oh my god, console prices

1513
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,800
drop over time. But kind of the opposite case is

1514
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,280
happening here, and it seems like they're doing this everywhere,

1515
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,559
not just in the US, which you might think like, oh,

1516
01:04:16,599 --> 01:04:18,719
it's tariffs, like of course they're going to increase the prices,

1517
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:20,719
but I think in Canada and stuff too, right, like

1518
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,679
our prices are also going up. So I think it

1519
01:04:22,719 --> 01:04:26,920
is just across the board they're just increasing prices for

1520
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,800
whatever reason. How do you feel about that? Because as

1521
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,679
like the kind of you know, third place if you

1522
01:04:30,679 --> 01:04:33,519
want to console fanboy console wore it, Like, I don't know,

1523
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:36,239
is this a smart move or they just covering their

1524
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,119
bases for tariffs and like the impending economy from all

1525
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:40,719
that stuff, or like, I don't know, what are you

1526
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,400
what are your thoughts on this on as like mister Xbox.

1527
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,559
Speaker 2: I think that the company is losing money in some

1528
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:50,800
way there. I don't see them making a killing with

1529
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,400
game sales because most of their games are dropping on

1530
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,119
games Pass, so they're making money off those subscriptions, and

1531
01:04:57,159 --> 01:04:59,000
they're trying to make money off of consoles. I don't

1532
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:01,239
know how many consoles. I haven't looked at consoles.

1533
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:06,119
Speaker 1: I believe. I believe if you relate this to the

1534
01:05:06,159 --> 01:05:08,199
lifespan of the Xbox One, I think it's actually sold

1535
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,079
less consoles than the Xbox One era did at this

1536
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:12,639
point in time, and that's a generation that we look

1537
01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:15,159
at as like a big failure. But of course they

1538
01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:17,039
didn't have game Pass in the same way back then,

1539
01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:21,159
so there is other pillars to their business now on

1540
01:05:21,199 --> 01:05:22,639
the Xbox side of things. But yeah, I think the

1541
01:05:22,639 --> 01:05:26,079
console sales aren't super duper high. But once again, like

1542
01:05:26,159 --> 01:05:28,519
even the margins have always kind of been pretty low

1543
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:30,679
on consoles. You're making your money from the software and

1544
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:32,920
the subscription is usually over the console itself.

1545
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's right, that's very very right. I think

1546
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,440
that in retrospect, this is them dealing with them a

1547
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,280
few different things. I think that they're they're probably not

1548
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,840
having their most profitable year. So okay, the shitty thing

1549
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,920
to do is, yeah, bump the price up of your console.

1550
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,239
If you're not selling a lot of consoles, but you're

1551
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:54,760
going to sell some, someone's still going to pay that price. Okay,

1552
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,760
So there's a small step in a financially improving direction.

1553
01:05:59,079 --> 01:06:01,840
The next thing is, Okay, these men in suits. They're

1554
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,199
seeing what Nintendo did and Intendo charging that price to

1555
01:06:04,239 --> 01:06:06,480
their console, and they're thinking, Okay, maybe we can bump

1556
01:06:06,519 --> 01:06:09,320
the price because that's I haven't compared the specs, but

1557
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,280
I'm sure that. I mean, the Switch one was not

1558
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,719
the same specs as the Xbox Series X, and I'm

1559
01:06:13,719 --> 01:06:15,840
sure the Switch too is probably a little bit more

1560
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,440
in line with what the specs are for the what

1561
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,599
the Xbox is. So I think that that's definitely them

1562
01:06:22,639 --> 01:06:25,079
looking at the technology and the parts in both machines

1563
01:06:25,079 --> 01:06:26,880
and thinking, okay, well, now we're going to be a

1564
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,199
little bit more on par and to build them. You know,

1565
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,039
Nintendo's paying this amount of money for these things, so

1566
01:06:33,079 --> 01:06:35,679
we're gonna probably let's let's try and match that a

1567
01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:38,000
little bit instead of taking a big hit. And the

1568
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:39,840
third thing I think is that at the Terraffs, that

1569
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,920
kind of blade bleeds into the second point that I

1570
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,440
was making there. I think the Terraffs have been a

1571
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,719
little bit unprecedented, and you know, one day it's this,

1572
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,519
one day it's back down to here, and then it's that.

1573
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:52,800
And so you can't as a company keep fluctuating as

1574
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,800
much as that is fluctuating. You have to, Okay, set

1575
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,639
a baseline and just think, Okay, this is where we're

1576
01:06:57,639 --> 01:06:59,639
gonna you know, we draw the line here one hundred

1577
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:01,559
dollars in increasing our consoles. But at least, you know,

1578
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:04,039
it's it's not making us a huge amount of money,

1579
01:07:04,039 --> 01:07:05,559
but at least it's covering our base a little bit

1580
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:09,199
more than dealing with the losses at that lower threshold

1581
01:07:09,239 --> 01:07:11,559
of a price. So I think there's just several factors

1582
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:17,960
that are kind of involved with it, and and yeah.

1583
01:07:16,519 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's so much to it as well,

1584
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,199
Like you know, there's been so many rumors and things

1585
01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:25,039
like this whenn Xbox handheld, they might be cooking on

1586
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:26,960
for a few years here, and like I don't know,

1587
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,280
maybe when that releases, they want it to be like,

1588
01:07:29,679 --> 01:07:32,760
look how economical this is. It's three hundred dollars cheaper

1589
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,719
than the Series X, it's one hundred dollars less than

1590
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:37,039
the Series S whatever it is. And so maybe this

1591
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:39,239
is a part of it too, of like future planning

1592
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,679
of like they want people to adopt that so make

1593
01:07:41,679 --> 01:07:44,199
the other options less desirable so people are more drawn

1594
01:07:44,239 --> 01:07:45,960
of that. Is that a great idea? I don't know,

1595
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,000
And that might also not be the case, it might

1596
01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:49,960
be more expensive in the series s even with the

1597
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,400
price upgrade. We'll have to kind of just wait and

1598
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,119
see on that. But yeah, and like, I don't know,

1599
01:07:55,199 --> 01:07:57,800
I really wonder how the price of like, like, I

1600
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,480
when's the last time you bought an Xbox game? Like,

1601
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:02,760
because obviously you're you're ripping up game pass, Like, what's

1602
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:03,519
the last game?

1603
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: Like?

1604
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:06,079
Speaker 1: And you know, in terms of the upgrades, I got

1605
01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:07,679
a couple of the upgrades. I got the Red full ones.

1606
01:08:07,679 --> 01:08:09,760
I'm a arcane boy, you know, Rest in Peace arcane.

1607
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,360
And then I got the Starfield one. But like, you know,

1608
01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:15,840
those are you know, cheaper purchases than a full game.

1609
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,000
I can't think of the last time I bought, like

1610
01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:20,039
an Xbox game. It's been a long time.

1611
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 2: Usually, I mean Call Duty's I would buy them every

1612
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,199
single year. This is the first year I've not bought

1613
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:26,840
in a Call Duty. It's the first year I've not

1614
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,159
bought an Assassin's Creed. I haven't even bought a Star

1615
01:08:30,199 --> 01:08:33,319
Wars game because they're available through all these different Gaming

1616
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:37,279
Pass subscriptions. So it's an answer when my last purchase

1617
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:42,760
Xbox game was, I don't know, Settlers of Catan the

1618
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:48,000
board game I couldn't tell you, which is a.

1619
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: Sweet Xbox first party game. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know,

1620
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,359
maybe that doesn't matter much, Like maybe the few people

1621
01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:58,560
that we're gonna buy it are the people who really

1622
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,399
want that physical disc even though they out making a

1623
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:01,640
lot of those, or it's the people who want the

1624
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,920
ownership of it, and those people will continue to pay

1625
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,199
the extra ten or twenty bucks whatever. And I guess

1626
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,560
probably mostly ten bucks, right because they already did. The

1627
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,239
price bumped to seventy USD for most of their first

1628
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:15,119
party games, right, So yeah, we'll see. And then you know,

1629
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:18,680
once again, more expensive games means potentially more people wanting

1630
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,520
to go to game Pass instead to circumvent those additional prices.

1631
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,319
And at the end of the day, that's kind of

1632
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,239
where they want everyone to be. They want they don't

1633
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:27,159
care what you own. They just want you to be

1634
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:29,680
playing game Pass in some way or another. And you know,

1635
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,520
they don't do like the I don't think they do

1636
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,640
like the one dollar game Pass deal anymore. So it's

1637
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,439
like now you got to pony up and they keep

1638
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,640
in pricing that increasing that price. It'll probably go up

1639
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,840
again this year. I would imagine at some point, I

1640
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,960
think they're just trying to stagger their price increases a

1641
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,399
little bit to not appear to I don't know, cutthroat,

1642
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:49,399
I suppose, so, yeah, we'll see what happens there. But honestly,

1643
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,960
I don't think this will have a big effect on

1644
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:54,960
them much at all. Like I don't think they're gonna

1645
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,800
the few people who are gonna the less people who

1646
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,279
are gonna buy their stuff versus like the people who

1647
01:10:01,319 --> 01:10:02,760
are going to make a bit more money for the

1648
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,600
company by buying their stuff a bit more expensive. I

1649
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,199
think we'll kind of work out the same. And I

1650
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:10,159
think ultimately for Xbox's game plan of hey, worse we're

1651
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:13,239
making we're publishing house pretty much, we're whipping out software

1652
01:10:13,319 --> 01:10:15,279
left right and center, because you know, they bought all

1653
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:17,840
these companies, but now we're putting that stuff on Sony,

1654
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,119
putting something on Nintendo, you know, pimping out that that

1655
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:23,520
game pass service, Like I feel like that's where their

1656
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,000
bread and butter is these days. And yeah, I feel

1657
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,439
like those pillars aren't really affected by these price increases.

1658
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,000
So once again we'll see it happens when they do

1659
01:10:31,079 --> 01:10:33,119
the price increase for a game pass again because when

1660
01:10:33,159 --> 01:10:36,079
they did that recently last summer, I did unsubscribe for

1661
01:10:36,119 --> 01:10:38,840
about five or six months, I think, And now I'm

1662
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,479
back on it, and there's been like an insane amount

1663
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,000
of games the last like three months, so it's been

1664
01:10:42,039 --> 01:10:44,680
absolutely worth it. But once I'm done playing those games,

1665
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,479
or you know, des Rinting two comes out or twitch to,

1666
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,319
I'll probably kill that subscription again for a few months

1667
01:10:49,319 --> 01:10:51,880
because they've just made it kind of that expensive that

1668
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,880
I actually have to think about that monthly purchase now.

1669
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:55,680
So I don't know, I think there's a bit of

1670
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,079
risk of that too, if they like that's the Nintendo's

1671
01:10:58,079 --> 01:11:00,600
thing with Nintendo Switch Online is it's so cheap that

1672
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,119
I barely get Like I barely flinch when my credit

1673
01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:05,840
card goes through that. I you know, it's been like

1674
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,920
my next purchase for Nintendo sochall and it's just so

1675
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,319
little that I keep it constantly. But you know, Xbox,

1676
01:11:11,319 --> 01:11:13,840
that's not the case anymore because they really they keep

1677
01:11:14,039 --> 01:11:17,800
freaking jacking that price up over and over again. So yeah, anyway,

1678
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,479
any other thoughts on that or do you want to

1679
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:20,960
talk a little bit about oblivion here?

1680
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 2: That's that's everything cool?

1681
01:11:25,239 --> 01:11:27,520
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I don't really have much to add here.

1682
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,399
You know, it's a game that I've played for hundreds

1683
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,399
of hours already, but I mostly been playing Expedition thirty three,

1684
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,399
but I have played a little bit more Oblivion. I

1685
01:11:34,399 --> 01:11:37,159
had my friend over who you know, my friend Cody,

1686
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:39,840
who I've had him on the podcast before to talk

1687
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,960
about older scrolls. He's my kind of elder Scrolls main

1688
01:11:42,279 --> 01:11:43,800
homie there. We talked about all the stuff. He was

1689
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,079
there with me Open Night of Skyer. When we're there

1690
01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:48,000
on Steam waiting for that play button to like on

1691
01:11:48,399 --> 01:11:50,520
gray Out, so we click on it. We play a

1692
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,239
lot of Oblivion back in the day together, even though

1693
01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:54,760
it's a single player game. And he, you know, he

1694
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,000
bought the game on his PC, didn't check the specs

1695
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,680
at all. It didn't run on his PC. So then

1696
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,039
he like, I want a refund. He's like, I don't

1697
01:12:01,039 --> 01:12:02,560
really want to see this game. Kind of come over

1698
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,159
and so we had a good old fe We had

1699
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:06,199
a very like high school hangout night, which was, you know,

1700
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:08,319
a good throwback to have one of those, Taylor, We've

1701
01:12:08,319 --> 01:12:11,279
freaking got some slurpies, whipped out Oblivion and just played

1702
01:12:11,319 --> 01:12:12,920
that for a few hours. It was a good time,

1703
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,479
and I think, you know, the funny thing about is

1704
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,520
I was showing him around to my house in Imperial

1705
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,520
City that bought the shack because I needed a place

1706
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,439
to dump all my stuff and that's the cheapest house.

1707
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,279
And then I realized this because you know, everyone talking

1708
01:12:25,279 --> 01:12:27,520
about this game again is you know, it's Oliver Reddit

1709
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,199
and stuff, and I'm seeing things I didn't know before.

1710
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:30,600
And one of the things I didn't really you know,

1711
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,319
there's like house upgrades you can get in this game, right,

1712
01:12:32,359 --> 01:12:34,720
like you buy like the kitchen set or whatever. Yes,

1713
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,479
did you know that you can steal those some of

1714
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,600
those plans from places in the city. You can steal

1715
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,079
like the blueprint for like the kitchen set from a

1716
01:12:42,119 --> 01:12:43,840
guy's house, and then you don't have to pay for it.

1717
01:12:45,079 --> 01:12:47,159
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, no, no, no, I've never heard.

1718
01:12:47,239 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy? As someone who's played this game for

1719
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,039
hundreds of hours, that's not a new feature. I think

1720
01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:53,319
I've just always been there. I just never knew about

1721
01:12:53,319 --> 01:12:56,000
that all my time playing this game. So when he

1722
01:12:56,039 --> 01:12:57,279
came over, I like, you know, I went on the

1723
01:12:57,279 --> 01:12:58,960
WIKIU I'm like, I'm not going to spend hundreds of

1724
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,800
hours like investigation. Everyone's house. I saw, like, Okay, this

1725
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,199
guy's house has like this plan. This guy's has this plan,

1726
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,880
and so you know, I wait until the cover of nightfall, which,

1727
01:13:07,079 --> 01:13:08,520
my god, night looks so good in the game. The

1728
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,800
lighting is amazing. You know, I'm waiting for the guards

1729
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,399
to look away, do my lock picking. I'll talk about

1730
01:13:13,399 --> 01:13:15,279
lock picking and again a second because I had another

1731
01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:17,840
breakthrough there, break into this guy's house. I don't know

1732
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,560
about you, but whenever I do like a thieves guild

1733
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,079
thing and Oblivion or Skyrim whatever, because of like the

1734
01:13:22,079 --> 01:13:24,720
physics system of like objects on tables, I always like

1735
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,560
to ransack the houses as I'm like thieving with them.

1736
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,479
So I'll like take the bowl of fruit, I'll throw

1737
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,560
it on the ground. I'll knock all this stuff off

1738
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,520
their shelf. And of course the sound like that doesn't

1739
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,319
wake them, it doesn't break sneak. When I do that

1740
01:13:35,399 --> 01:13:37,880
kind of stuff, its just is for fun. So I'm

1741
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,039
like a wet bandit, you know, I'm like the sticky Bandits.

1742
01:13:40,039 --> 01:13:41,800
I'm like, I'm I'm I'm I'm rough housing up the

1743
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,159
place a little bit, cruising through this guy's house. My

1744
01:13:44,199 --> 01:13:46,359
sneak's skills awful. I think I was wearing heavy armor,

1745
01:13:46,399 --> 01:13:48,680
so I'm just like clunking around. But on this guy's

1746
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,319
desk I found like, yeah, a couple of plans. I

1747
01:13:50,359 --> 01:13:53,079
find like the kitchen set whatever, like the wall decoration set,

1748
01:13:53,239 --> 01:13:55,840
just on the desk, just on the desk. And then

1749
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,279
another guy's house, I saw he has more plans. And

1750
01:13:58,399 --> 01:14:00,199
I was in this guy's house for ten fifty team

1751
01:14:00,199 --> 01:14:02,960
maybe twenty minutes. I looked around his desk, I hacked

1752
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,039
all of his chests that were like very hard locks.

1753
01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:07,319
Took me forever, like I can't find this thing. We

1754
01:14:07,359 --> 01:14:09,359
go down to the basement. There's like paintings on the

1755
01:14:09,359 --> 01:14:11,640
ground kind of leaned up against the wall, like old paintings.

1756
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,720
Looking around forever, I'm like about ready to give up,

1757
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,600
and just like Google, like where the heck are these plans?

1758
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,359
And my friend's like, wait, look under that painting, and

1759
01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:22,119
like under the painting on the ground, tucked under there

1760
01:14:22,119 --> 01:14:24,640
were a couple plans just tucked away on the like

1761
01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:27,359
so hidden, and I love it. And then they gave

1762
01:14:27,359 --> 01:14:29,239
me more upgrades for my house. And then it was

1763
01:14:29,239 --> 01:14:31,760
super confused because I'm like how do I use these?

1764
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,760
Like how do I give this to the merchant now

1765
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,039
and like buy these, went to the you know, the

1766
01:14:36,079 --> 01:14:39,479
Three Brothers House whatever, the Three Brothers Shop, whatever it's

1767
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,800
called there, couldn't figure it out. Eventually, I just went

1768
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,000
back to my house and all this stuff was there.

1769
01:14:43,039 --> 01:14:44,520
I'm like, oh, I guess if you just hold the plan,

1770
01:14:45,079 --> 01:14:47,479
it instantly gets built for free. I just like didn't

1771
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,800
realize that. So of course a little bit of jank

1772
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,239
there of course with everything oblivion, But that was my

1773
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,720
big new discovery, which I love. I can't wait to

1774
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,520
do that in all the towns now because I love

1775
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,079
breaking in the houses and find finding cool stuff. And

1776
01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:02,279
then the other one was do you do you know,

1777
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,000
like how to the hack for the lock picking MINDI game?

1778
01:15:05,279 --> 01:15:10,159
Do you know how to like do it consistently? M no,

1779
01:15:11,279 --> 01:15:13,359
because I didn't know this either. Once again, I played

1780
01:15:13,359 --> 01:15:14,800
the game for hundreds of hours and I always just

1781
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,479
winged it, and you know, you eventually get pretty good.

1782
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,840
But you know, when you like click the click one

1783
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,680
of the locks up, it'll fall down either like fast,

1784
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,159
medium or like slow right. Yeah, if you so you

1785
01:15:25,199 --> 01:15:27,279
click it up, it'll pick one of those three speeds randomly,

1786
01:15:27,319 --> 01:15:30,199
it'll start falling down. But if it's if it's still

1787
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:32,560
falling and you keep tapping it up before it's come

1788
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,920
all the way down, it'll stay that same speed. So

1789
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,079
if it's fast and you hit it and you keep spamming,

1790
01:15:37,079 --> 01:15:39,399
it'll keep falling down fast. But what you do is

1791
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,279
you just click it up, you know, let it fall

1792
01:15:41,319 --> 01:15:43,920
completely unless it's slow, and then if it's slow, you

1793
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,239
just keep tapping it over and over again. It'll constantly

1794
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:48,479
stay slow. And then you can just really like lock

1795
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,920
in that timing like a you know, guitar hero or something.

1796
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,000
And since I learned that, I've not broken a single

1797
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,359
pick and I can get very hard locks like immediately.

1798
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,279
It's just it's it makes it so easy and I

1799
01:15:59,319 --> 01:16:01,239
love it. I just like though I never knew that before,

1800
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,840
and it's like I wish I was just like crazy randomness,

1801
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,439
you know. I love loved it for what it is,

1802
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,720
but now I'm like, my god, I'm just unlocked home.

1803
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,640
I don't. I can be security level three and I

1804
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,560
can get very hard lock no problems because I know

1805
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,119
the hack to it, so use that tailor. It's it's

1806
01:16:15,159 --> 01:16:18,560
it's great. I absolutely love it. So those have been

1807
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,039
my you know, big Oblivion Discoveries, which is once again

1808
01:16:21,079 --> 01:16:22,560
crazy for a game I've played as much as I have.

1809
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,600
But have you played any more of Oblivion or any

1810
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,199
other games you've been playing that you wanted to highlight here?

1811
01:16:27,239 --> 01:16:27,640
This week?

1812
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 2: Pretty much just uh, just Oblivion. There's another game I

1813
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,880
want I want to mention because it's kind of funny,

1814
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,680
but I haven't. I haven't played it yet. It's just

1815
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,560
it's on my radar. But Oblivion has been kind of

1816
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,640
at the forefront of my my game time. And yeah,

1817
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,239
I've just been shutting down Oblivion gates left right in center.

1818
01:16:45,119 --> 01:16:48,760
And yeah, I went and caught my horse for free

1819
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,600
at the stables. Stables outside of the Imperial City, give

1820
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,600
you that free armored horse, which is kind of nice.

1821
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,840
And then yeah, I need to I need to get

1822
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,560
my house. But I thought, okay, I'm I'm focusing on

1823
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,439
the main storyline here. I need to. I did a

1824
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,239
couple side quests, but I think, okay, I need to

1825
01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:08,079
actually just do some exploring. And so I went to

1826
01:17:08,119 --> 01:17:10,760
one town, thought I'm just going to walk to the

1827
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,239
next town from here. Oh, I've been doing that too,

1828
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,720
such great, great, it's awesome because, yeah, you come across

1829
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,960
these tunnels or little camps and whatnot, all these different

1830
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,560
things and just get I just let myself get sucked

1831
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,920
away and just get into it. And I'm really enjoying it.

1832
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,840
I'm trying to be more of a major. I started

1833
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,439
the Mag's Guild quest line, and so I have to

1834
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,279
hit all the towns and get my approval from everyone.

1835
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: Yep, I love that. I question super fun. I actually

1836
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,880
I love the design of those because they're not super

1837
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,680
combat focused. They're all just like weird, quirky, whimsical, little

1838
01:17:42,279 --> 01:17:45,560
goofy ass things with really melodramatic people. It's so fun.

1839
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,039
It is a lot of fun, and that's giving you

1840
01:17:48,079 --> 01:17:49,600
the flavor of all the different towns as well. I

1841
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,000
think it's like I'd honestly recommend that if anyone's like

1842
01:17:52,039 --> 01:17:54,119
feeling lost, feeling like this game is too big, do

1843
01:17:54,279 --> 01:17:55,880
Magor's Guild. I think that's like a great way to

1844
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,720
really experience the different towns, get a flavor of them,

1845
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,520
and like get some early quests done and you get

1846
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,079
some couple sometimes get like some good spells. Actually they'll

1847
01:18:03,119 --> 01:18:04,680
just like give you a spell to complete a quest,

1848
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:05,079
which is.

1849
01:18:05,239 --> 01:18:07,239
Speaker 2: You do you get some pretty good rewards that's one

1850
01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:08,800
of the reasons why I like doing it, just for

1851
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:13,000
those those rewards. I've been looking at a few different

1852
01:18:13,039 --> 01:18:16,800
just videos of just getting certain armor locations and certain

1853
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,119
things like left, right and center, just how to find

1854
01:18:19,159 --> 01:18:22,119
certain upgrades. And one of the spells I was looking at,

1855
01:18:22,119 --> 01:18:26,359
this person created a uh, oh my gosh, what was

1856
01:18:26,399 --> 01:18:28,760
it called. I sent the video to myself because I

1857
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,479
thought I want to try to recreate the spell because

1858
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,560
I actually talked about it. Okay, there's one hundred percent

1859
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:38,000
reflect reflect damage spell, which is as broken as it sounds.

1860
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,600
And then there was I can't remember what the other

1861
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:42,199
one was, but.

1862
01:18:42,279 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: That like all damage or is it like just magic

1863
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:45,800
or just physical or everything?

1864
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,039
Speaker 2: In the video it showed they said it was all damage,

1865
01:18:49,039 --> 01:18:51,880
but the video specifically it was physical damage. But yeah,

1866
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,880
it's it was incredible. Oh my god, it was so broken.

1867
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There were other another instances with this guy created a

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spell where it basically made people steal from each other.

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I don't know how he made it, but he was

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in the bar and he did that and then everyone

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01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,199
was just killing each other and he used a chameleon

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on himself, and then he just looted their bodies after

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it's just savage.

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Speaker 1: And then that must be I don't know. I don't

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01:19:14,359 --> 01:19:16,239
know about the stealing one, but I know frenzy is

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the spell that makes people like attack just it just

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makes them aggressive people around them. So if you're that's

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why I guess the chameleon comes in, because they wouldn't

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get aggressive towards him, they would get aggressive to the

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other patrons at this poor bar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be careful what bars you go into

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01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,760
these days in here. Yeah, especially because I saw some

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01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,000
videos of people replacing all the fruit on the tables,

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01:19:39,039 --> 01:19:41,399
all the food on the tables with poisoned food. And

1885
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then it's just everyone's sitting in the taverns and they

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,079
just they take a bite and they're like oh, and

1887
01:19:46,079 --> 01:19:48,439
then they're all just like bodies dropping left, right and center.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen those like meme videos from back in

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01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:55,600
the day. I'll send you some of these little fav

1890
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,640
bros do like these. There's they're just called Oblivion one,

1891
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,920
Oblivion two, Oblivion three or whatever, and they're just like,

1892
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,800
it's just this guy who's so good at mimicking, like

1893
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,399
the janky ass NPC physics, and he has one of

1894
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,760
those when the guy's eating the poison apple. Ah, yeah,

1895
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:11,279
it's great.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm overall, I'm thoroughly enjoying the game. I've

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01:20:16,399 --> 01:20:18,600
just been I've been exploring more, trying to upgrade my

1898
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,359
characters some more, trying to boost up my carrying capacity

1899
01:20:22,359 --> 01:20:24,640
because that was one of the harshest realizations is when

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01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,800
I had one chain mail on, I was like, oh,

1901
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,720
I'm gonna pick up this other one here and put

1902
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,119
this in my inventory, and I was like, oh, I'm

1903
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:35,079
over encumbered now I have to drop yeah most of

1904
01:20:35,119 --> 01:20:36,560
my stuff. That sucks.

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01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been pumping that strength stat. I think it's

1906
01:20:40,079 --> 01:20:43,239
mine's up to like sixty sixty five now nice. Nice,

1907
01:20:43,239 --> 01:20:45,560
at least five points in or I guess that's the maximum,

1908
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,439
but five points into it every time, and I think

1909
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,000
I'm good now in strength, Like I'm not really getting

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01:20:49,039 --> 01:20:52,640
over and cumbered every ten minutes now, which is nice. Yeah,

1911
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:58,000
it's great. Yeah, it's bloody. It's just super fun. Uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anything else the other game, Oh my goodness, I keep

1913
01:21:05,239 --> 01:21:07,399
forgetting the freaking name of it because it's such a

1914
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,000
simple name. Hang on, hang on hand, I have it

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01:21:10,039 --> 01:21:14,039
on my Steam library. I will pull it up here.

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Speaker 1: Simple name it's avowed something one.

1917
01:21:18,319 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 2: It has a one in its name. One. My friend

1918
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,640
at co worker at work, he was telling me all

1919
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:30,880
about it, and then my one friend he messages me

1920
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,840
and he's like, hey, I bought this game. I was like, oh, okay,

1921
01:21:34,039 --> 01:21:35,279
it's called Schedule one.

1922
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:39,279
Speaker 1: Oh yes, the drug the drugs dealer simulator game.

1923
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 2: Yes, that is it. And I was watching some videos

1924
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,359
of it, and my friend he was sending me, Uh,

1925
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,680
it does amazing. You know what cops are playing this game.

1926
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,079
I I have a a friend who's a cop and

1927
01:21:53,119 --> 01:21:54,640
he's played the game and he's having a good time.

1928
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,319
He's like, yeah, the cops are keeper asking me in

1929
01:21:56,359 --> 01:21:58,600
this game, and he's trying to get his drunk overa

1930
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,760
and going. I just think it's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, if anyone is mad that GJ

1932
01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:07,159
six got delayed, just go play Schedule one. It's like

1933
01:22:07,199 --> 01:22:10,119
thirty bucks or something, and I think you will. You know,

1934
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:11,920
you'll have fun. It's you know, it's not a Triple

1935
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,439
A game, so expect the graphics to look like pretty janky.

1936
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But like I think, mechanics wise, freedom wise, stupid silly

1937
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,680
stuff wise, I think it'll fill that niche for sure,

1938
01:22:23,359 --> 01:22:25,960
for sure. I think it's an early access right now, right,

1939
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,520
I believe it is. Yeah, but it has multiplayer as

1940
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,039
well as you and your you know, ten closest friends

1941
01:22:32,079 --> 01:22:34,119
or whatever. You can go make a drug empire.

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Speaker 2: One does I forgot about that?

1943
01:22:36,079 --> 01:22:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, looks good. All right, anything else, Taylor or

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01:22:40,279 --> 01:22:41,600
is that all for this episode?

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Speaker 2: That's all?

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining. This is a really

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01:22:45,159 --> 01:22:47,159
fun episode. I feel like we really got in the

1948
01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:50,159
weeds on a lot of these topics. Thank you everyone

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01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,680
for listening. Next one, you know, the day this episode

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drops is the release of Doom Dark Ages, So next

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01:22:58,039 --> 01:22:59,800
week on the podcast we'll be talking about that. Thank

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01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,199
you everyone for listening, and we'll see you again then

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bye bye mm hmm

