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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we are alive. I have this William Ramsey. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to William Ramsey Investigates. On today's show. I have two

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<v Speaker 1>very special guests, returning guests, Paul and Philip Collins. We

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<v Speaker 1>were just talking in apprecia trying to remember how many

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<v Speaker 1>shows we've done. We've done a lot. Our most recent

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<v Speaker 1>one was their article that was published titled Anglotopian Dream

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<v Speaker 1>Science Fiction and the Anglo File Mill You eighteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>one to nineteen oh four, and that was published in

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine's Cultural Engineering Studies. That was issue

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<v Speaker 1>issue one, so you guys can check that out. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not our only show that we've done. We've also

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<v Speaker 1>done one on the Canteen Rift that their book that

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<v Speaker 1>they've done. We did one on Let's See Beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>Can't invoking to Beyond the Canteen Rift. I think there

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<v Speaker 1>was one in two, yeah, and then Let's see then

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<v Speaker 1>we did this. Last one we did was Deception through Disclosure.

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<v Speaker 1>It was from a part one decoding the Grush and Dingma.

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<v Speaker 1>But they've to two articles since we went through that,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot going on there. Just was this

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<v Speaker 1>Congressional inquiry, but the other articles that they wrote. The

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<v Speaker 1>Part two is called More Spooks, Complicit Media and the

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<v Speaker 1>Deep State Sponsored Fringe of Science, and then most recently

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty eighth, the Galileo Project of Melons and the

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<v Speaker 1>Ghost of Paul Nitze and the NSC sixty eight agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot going on with this UAP stuff

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<v Speaker 1>or UFO things, but they're going to talk more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So Paul and Philip, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello again, William. Thanks William.

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<v Speaker 1>So, for people who may not have heard your name,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've published two books, you've done interviews, I've published,

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<v Speaker 1>republished interviews you've done with Visigoth. Maybe you can just

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about your background. Started writing for

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<v Speaker 1>The Canadian Patriot. That's Matthew Ritt's website. I've talked to

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<v Speaker 1>him and his wife, but he does great work too,

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe you can talk about how you started publishing

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<v Speaker 1>articles on there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were publishing, we were still publishing with Terry

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<v Speaker 2>Mullanson a conspiracy archive, and then he just fell on

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<v Speaker 2>the hard times and he's I assume he's still trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get back up and running again. So I sent

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<v Speaker 2>this around and two different different outlets and Matt shown

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<v Speaker 2>interest in it, seemed to take the you know, bite

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<v Speaker 2>at it first, and ever since then we've been, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been collaborating with mister Erict and submitting to a

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian Patriot and he seems to he seems to like

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<v Speaker 2>everything that we come out with thus far. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be doing presentations for the Canadian Patriot on December one

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<v Speaker 2>and December fifteenth, so we'll close out the year doing

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<v Speaker 2>some more work with him and everything. And he and

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<v Speaker 2>his wife Cynthia Chung, like you said, they do really

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<v Speaker 2>really good work. But before him, like I said, it was,

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<v Speaker 2>there was Terry Mullanson with a conspiracy archive in Also

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<v Speaker 2>before that, there was Michael Corbin used to work with

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<v Speaker 2>the syndicated talk show host Michael Corbin and wrote for

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<v Speaker 2>the ACL Report, which was a Closer Look, a Closer

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<v Speaker 2>Look the publication, and then with appeared regularly on a

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<v Speaker 2>Closer Look the radio show that he had out of

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<v Speaker 2>out of Colorado, and you know, and after after Mike

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<v Speaker 2>passed on, things started to slow down as far as

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<v Speaker 2>our research was concerned, and we got involved more in

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream journalism. And over the last few years we've been

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<v Speaker 2>you know, starting to get back starting to get back in.

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<v Speaker 2>And it seems like now that Canadian Patriot Review is

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<v Speaker 2>our primary outlet for for out as far as you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>public publishing, you know, new articles and the like. It's

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<v Speaker 2>our new output output, you know, our outlet, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys are putting out these articles really based

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<v Speaker 1>upon I think that first one was Grush, right, who

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<v Speaker 1>uh supposedly was a big you know revelation of the

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<v Speaker 1>UFO phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then he ended up that he was tied

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<v Speaker 2>in with the Compass Rose Legal firm, which Andrew mcaug

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<v Speaker 2>had started, and amb Andrew bacage had been with the

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<v Speaker 2>c i A and UH and his his lawyer had

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<v Speaker 2>been the Inspector General for I believe the intelligence community.

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<v Speaker 2>And so uh Grush ended up not being so much

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<v Speaker 2>a whistleblower as he was you know, still still tied

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<v Speaker 2>to these same uh deep state networks and and also

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<v Speaker 2>tied to some of the old names that we would

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<v Speaker 2>recognize when studying, uh studying a UFO deception, the same

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<v Speaker 2>names that that emerged back in the day, like like

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<v Speaker 2>big Low and uh uh and uh individuals like that

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Bigelow and and Nitsy and and uh and more.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also tied in with a with a lou Elizondo

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<v Speaker 2>who we've who we've looked at, so you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>he's not instead of this whistleblower type that's putting it

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<v Speaker 2>all on the line and and you know, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>ends up he's quote unquote connected. He's he's still connected

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, which which begs the question, you know, is

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<v Speaker 2>this a genuine disclosure or is this deception being carried

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<v Speaker 2>out under the pretext of disclosure? And HiT's the name

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<v Speaker 2>of this series that we're doing, the deception through disclosure.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So this there and but it's a huge network.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just one or two people. There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of these families. It goes back when

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to the pre show, to these wealthy families

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<v Speaker 1>and connected families, Kane, Melan Rockefeller even right, so can

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<v Speaker 1>you maybe talk about some of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, well, I mean, like you said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you had Leslie Kane. We talked about Leslie Kane in

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<v Speaker 2>the second article Leslie Kyne's and I think I brought

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<v Speaker 2>this up in our art in our discussion over over

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<v Speaker 2>David grush On in the prior episode that we did

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<v Speaker 2>with you. Her uncle is Thomas Kane, and Thomas Kane

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<v Speaker 2>handed up the Kane Commission, which was the nine to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven commission, and by his own admission that that commission

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<v Speaker 2>was more of a cover up than it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>an attempt to get to the truth of anything regarding

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven. And so, you know, she seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be continuing with the family tradition of you know, laying

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<v Speaker 2>into UH into UH into cover up and and and

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<v Speaker 2>UH conspiracy, except you know, instead of dealing with UH

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<v Speaker 2>issues related to the g WAT terrorism, you know, she's

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<v Speaker 2>she's gone off on in the direction of UH of

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<v Speaker 2>UH to the UFO phenomenon. You know. But and like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, also Lawrence Rockefeller, he's been involved for he well,

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<v Speaker 2>prior to his death, he was involved in in all

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<v Speaker 2>of this. And you know he he had financed UH

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<v Speaker 2>John Mack and UH. John Mack was the one that

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<v Speaker 2>did UH, the doctor that supposedly did all this quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote groundbreaking research into the abduction of phenomenon, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was claiming that it was all true that these

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<v Speaker 2>people were in fact being taken by aliens, and that

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<v Speaker 2>the aliens were in part imparting to them some great

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<v Speaker 2>revelation that made all the victimization that they were going

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<v Speaker 2>through victimization which had really kind of ominous parallels with UH,

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<v Speaker 2>and all it it that all, but that all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that was fine, All of that victimization was

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<v Speaker 2>fine because it was leading to the these aliens imparting

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<v Speaker 2>some great epiphany, some great revelation to these people. And

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, well, what is that great revelation? Well, one

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<v Speaker 2>thing the aliens were preaching, according to John Mack, was

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<v Speaker 2>that there was going to be ecological meltdown and that

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<v Speaker 2>it was going to be an environmental cataclysm if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if people didn't start to uh, you know, get behind

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<v Speaker 2>green initiatives and and all of the like, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, basically beliefs that spiritual beliefs that would undermine

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<v Speaker 2>the the Christian foundation of Western civilization and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, these were the these were the great revelations

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<v Speaker 2>that they were supposedly imparting to these people after just

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<v Speaker 2>been after after quite frankly victimizing the snot out of them,

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<v Speaker 1>Like scaring them, terrifying induction.

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<v Speaker 2>All all of these revelations, all these revelations conveniently, conveniently

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<v Speaker 2>provided ostensible justifications for UH initiatives that have been promoted

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<v Speaker 2>by UH, those within the deep State, those who would

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<v Speaker 2>qualify as the deviate elite, like environmental UH, environmental degradation

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<v Speaker 2>and ecological catastrophes, those have always been invoked as UH,

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<v Speaker 2>the UH as the necessary the necessary preconditions for the

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<v Speaker 2>implementation of technocratic agendas. Technocratic agendas such as, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>UH, climate change is coming, yeah, we you know ten

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<v Speaker 1>million nuclear bombs have exploded power yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So you just have to rip up. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to rip up, you have to rip up your infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't have a gas car, you know, a gas

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<v Speaker 2>powered car, you can't have a refrigerator. Basically, technological apartheid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>technological apartheid has to be imposed population.

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<v Speaker 1>So these aliens are right on board with the UNA.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible, yeah, exactly, so they must be members of

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<v Speaker 1>the u N Yeah, yeah, exactly. And sorry, one more thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but the nine to eleven commission, I want to remember

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<v Speaker 1>if you know this, but remember this, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be held by Kissinger, of all people, with

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<v Speaker 1>the first choice like what a snake, Let's get this

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<v Speaker 1>snake to come in and monitor this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they had to pull back from that and

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<v Speaker 2>have Hamilton and have Hamilton and Kane come in. But

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<v Speaker 2>both of them have admitted that you know that they

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<v Speaker 2>that they that that the commission just covered things up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another warrant commission, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that that information was offfuscated and uh. And

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<v Speaker 2>the funny thing is that Philip Zellicoe was upon was

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<v Speaker 2>on that commission, and Zelliko was the one calling for

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of quote unquote truth commission concerning the UH,

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<v Speaker 2>concerning the pandemic. So you can imagine just what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of truth they would get to the bottom of when

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<v Speaker 2>looking at at COVID and at the you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>certainly probably wouldn't hear the word you you know, wuhan

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<v Speaker 2>but the Chinese would probably been prevented, presented as a

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<v Speaker 2>limited hangout. But you wouldn't hear anything about UH Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Daasac and Dasik's alleged connections to the Central Intelligence Agency

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<v Speaker 2>and the money coming through eco Health Alliance, to the

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<v Speaker 2>Wuhan lab and to other bio labs all over the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and and where eco Health money is coming from. So

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<v Speaker 2>they would have, you know, conveniently, if that if that UH,

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<v Speaker 2>if that commission ever got started, they would conveniently cover

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<v Speaker 2>up any trails leading back here. You know. So you

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<v Speaker 2>know Trump Trump, when Trump talks about the enemy within,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not entirely wrong. He's not entirely wrong. There is

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<v Speaker 2>there is an enemy within. And you know, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these these major UH deep events, as as

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<v Speaker 2>these major political scandals and and and all in this

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<v Speaker 2>called douggery. A lot of it leads leads back here.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't end at the doorstep

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<v Speaker 2>of the Russians, or the Chinese or the Iranians. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of it leads back to to a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fifth column here in the UH in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Lawrence Rockefeller, the kingeh, the king political dynasty.

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<v Speaker 2>the Galileo project. Now, we point out at the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>but he has written a book that everybody has to read,

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<v Speaker 2>UH called Fortunate Sons, which basically goes into using primary documentation,

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<v Speaker 2>Intelligence Agency. But Brewer, he has he has this organization

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<v Speaker 2>they submitted these FOYER requests to find out why the

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<v Speaker 2>FBI was taking an interest in the Galileo project and

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<v Speaker 2>looking into things like the Galileo project's research approach to

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<v Speaker 2>they because they basically asked in their FOIA requests if

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<v Speaker 2>if you know, FBI documents over the Galileo Project implied

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<v Speaker 2>or it were indicative of some kind of FBI investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>And the response was the Glomar response. The Glomar response

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like a CIA response.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what. That's always a red that's always red,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I remember a few years back when you

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<v Speaker 2>that I totally rejected out of hand a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>what Kathy O'Brien had said until he had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>actually done some kind of for your requests as CIA

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<v Speaker 1>Globe Marcus POULTI l Yeah, there.

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<v Speaker 2>You go, there you go. And whenever you get that response,

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote, dark World Order. We did want Dark World

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<v Speaker 1>Order one or two?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, gotcha? Yeah. So, and so that compelled us to

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<v Speaker 2>we also found was that they had very deep connections

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<v Speaker 2>this year earlier this year, they had received a gift

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<v Speaker 2>from the Richard Mellon King Foundation, a rather large monetary

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<v Speaker 2>gift of I think it was five hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars, and it was a grant that would

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<v Speaker 2>allow them to set up one of many observatory stations

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<v Speaker 2>and they were thinking like that the location would either

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<v Speaker 2>be Alleghany or or a location in Pennsylvania, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Mellon King Foundation was providing the money that would cover

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of instrumentation and all that, you know, would

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<v Speaker 2>oh this observatory. And you know Richard Melon King, you

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<v Speaker 2>know he was he was a uh, he was a philanthropist.

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<v Speaker 2>He was he was the president of the Melon National Bank.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Richard Richard King Mellon. Yeah, he was the president

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<v Speaker 2>of the Melon National Bank and Trust Company. He uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the Golf Oil Corporation, which later Richard Mellon Scafe would

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<v Speaker 2>be uh, you know, intimately tied to and everything. And

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<v Speaker 2>know anything of the name at all, they know him

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<v Speaker 1>But wasn't the hitchcock. Wasn't he of Melan associate to

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is like money supporting cultural stuff Leary himself,

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<v Speaker 2>But what most people don't know is that the that

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<v Speaker 2>is that Richard Mellon King's family has been involved with

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<v Speaker 2>the American deep state since since it's uh, since its

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<v Speaker 2>or the portal for the Melon family to enter into

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<v Speaker 2>during World War World War two, Paul Mellon was with

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<v Speaker 2>with the O S s UH. There were Melons and

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<v Speaker 2>in laws of the Melons that were in espionage posts

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<v Speaker 2>that were in Madrid, in Geneva, in Paris and all,

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<v Speaker 2>that that deep state involvement of the Mellon family has

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<v Speaker 2>in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations. But in

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<v Speaker 2>addition to all of that, he has been one of

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<v Speaker 2>a major, a major mover and shaker in force behind that.

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<v Speaker 2>And and in the article we we quote, well, in

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<v Speaker 1>The industrial yeah, the military industrial complex going yeah, oh absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's a russophobe, and so he says at one

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<v Speaker 2>possibility that it that it's some alien civilization that's behind

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<v Speaker 1>And I can you can bet on it that his

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<v Speaker 2>As absolutely absolutely well also his family, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go into this in later installments. There's no way

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<v Speaker 2>this series is over by a long shot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>because you just keep on digging and digging and more

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<v Speaker 2>and more comes out. His family was a major holder,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they started a library. I think Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Millan started the library. Forgive me if I'm wrong with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I believe it was Paul Millan that started a

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<v Speaker 2>library of the works of Carl Huing. And the reason

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<v Speaker 2>that's significant is because Carl hun was a source of

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<v Speaker 2>inspiration for Alan Dallas when Alan Dallas was involved in

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<v Speaker 2>was involved in the UFO deception. Alan according to to

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Dallas was a pivotal player in the whole uh

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<v Speaker 2>the whole h manufacturing of the charge of the of

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<v Speaker 2>the Adomski myth and really wow, yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Been around in a lot of stuff. You know. Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in the Protocols of Zion too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh yeah, absolutely absolutely well. And the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 2>about Carl fun of course, in his later years he

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<v Speaker 2>wrote extensively on UFOs. He called them technological angels, which

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<v Speaker 2>of course seems to be something of an allusion to

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<v Speaker 2>the angelic motif first promoted by Jacob Believe, the Enlightenment

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<v Speaker 2>era pamphleteer who advanced this latter day interplanetary neo Gnostic gospel,

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<v Speaker 2>wherein he claimed that human beings were apostate angels, imprisoned

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<v Speaker 2>in the corporeal penitentiaries of the physical body, and we

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<v Speaker 2>could eventually migrate off world to other off world habitations

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<v Speaker 2>where we would essentially become God. So something of a

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<v Speaker 2>precursor to Mormonism, but it scientology and scientology as a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, Jacob Believe his work, Jacob Believe He's work,

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<v Speaker 2>and his his his heretical angelology, which is really kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a like I said, neo gnostic interplanetary neo gnostic

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<v Speaker 2>gospel that provides the hermeneutic according to which the modern

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<v Speaker 2>UFO phenomena has come to be understood, and we see

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<v Speaker 2>this angelic motif that that was first promoted by Jacob

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<v Speaker 2>Olive promoted throughout a plethora of other UFO artifacts, films,

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<v Speaker 2>UH books. Of course, in UH Close Encounters of the

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<v Speaker 2>third kind kind, there's the UH there's a clip at

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<v Speaker 2>the end where a priest is giving a blessing to

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<v Speaker 2>departing UH astronauts who are leaving with the visiting extraterrestrials,

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<v Speaker 2>and he quotes the verse from subs wherein it states

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<v Speaker 2>he shall give his angels charge over the angels. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>this angelic moteeth, but so Carl Hu's referral to extraterrestrials

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<v Speaker 2>as technological angels seems to be something of an allusion

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<v Speaker 2>to Jacob Believe's work. But Carl Hute also Carl Hute

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<v Speaker 2>also was intimately involved in the translation of the Non

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<v Speaker 2>Commodi Condaices, which of course were Gnostic Gnostic texts, and

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<v Speaker 2>people like John Lash, who is something of a of

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<v Speaker 2>Commody Codices UH and it's coinciding with the nineteen fifties

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<v Speaker 2>that an action reality that the the extraterrestrials are uh

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<v Speaker 2>of this present age, and that they were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>prevent man from gaty gnosis. But yeah, but you have this,

418
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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, oh yeah, and actually this this is what

419
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<v Speaker 2>my my forthcoming presentation on uh the Canadian Patriot on

420
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<v Speaker 2>December first, will be covered, or the Gnostic elements of

421
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<v Speaker 2>modern ufology.

422
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<v Speaker 1>But uh, yeah, put a link to that in the

423
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<v Speaker 1>show notes took you.

424
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<v Speaker 2>But but but you know, but Leon Davidson, the scientists

425
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<v Speaker 2>with the Manhattan Project, he uh, he had said he

426
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<v Speaker 2>had accused Alan Dallies of manufacturing Georgiadomski's whole experience with

427
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<v Speaker 2>a Venusian in the UH in the desert, and that

428
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<v Speaker 2>you know, like actors portraying Venusians associated with the CIA

429
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>had been involved in this, and and that the whole,

430
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 2>just a whole incident was was manufactured to convince this

431
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>man that he had been on the spaceship and and

432
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>and basically turned Adomsky into this kind of I guess

433
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:32.359
<v Speaker 2>misinformation amplifier, you know, And and Leon Davidson, UH was

434
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<v Speaker 2>not too far off the mark because there was there

435
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>was a meeting UH, a meeting with of Air Force

436
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 2>representatives with agency CIA agency officials regarding UH, regarding two

437
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 2>different people, two different researchers into UFOs, Donald Keho was

438
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<v Speaker 2>one and Leon Davidson. And like you know, the question

439
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 2>they were asking is what kind of approach should we

440
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<v Speaker 2>take to these two different researchers. And during the during

441
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<v Speaker 2>this meeting, they spoke with about Donald Keiho with nothing

442
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>but respect. They they looked at him with I has

443
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<v Speaker 2>some degree of respect and admiration. But then when they

444
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<v Speaker 2>talked about Davidson, the tone would totally change. And there

445
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 2>was a CIA officer president at this meeting who actually

446
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<v Speaker 2>his name was Frank Chapin, and he actually suggested that

447
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Davidson might might be working for a foreign power or something,

448
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:44.359
<v Speaker 2>that he might have some kind of nefarious motives. And also,

449
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<v Speaker 2>so what what Davidson was saying about Dallas and about

450
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Dallas's involvement in UH in the creation of the Adomski

451
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.839
<v Speaker 2>myth wasn't too far off the mark because they were

452
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<v Speaker 2>you know, because they were. They were getting mad at him,

453
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't you know, they didn't look at him

454
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<v Speaker 2>in the same light as they did uh Donald Kehoe.

455
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 2>They looked at him as a as an enemy. UH.

456
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<v Speaker 2>But Dallas, according to Davidson, According to Leon Davidson, Dallas

457
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<v Speaker 2>was turning to the writings of Carl hun As as

458
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<v Speaker 2>a source of inspiration when UH manufacturing UH the whole

459
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<v Speaker 2>uh Domsky contact d myth, which incidentally set off that

460
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<v Speaker 2>was that that that Doomsky Uh incident that set off

461
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<v Speaker 2>the contact d Uh phenomenon. It was kind of the

462
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.839
<v Speaker 2>advent of the of the contact d Uh period and

463
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>and UFO history. And he he had turned Dallas had

464
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<v Speaker 2>turned to uh to Q as a source of inspiration

465
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 2>when manufacturing that whole thing. And here we have a

466
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>turn coming full circle. Here we have Paul Millan and

467
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<v Speaker 2>the Mellon family keeping a library, a library of Hughes,

468
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>of Hughes writing. So it's you know, it's really suspicious,

469
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's really suggestive of the fact that this family

470
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:25.519
<v Speaker 2>has been involved in UFO deception going back long before

471
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<v Speaker 2>before Christopher Millan hit the scene.

472
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:34.599
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. So they're using this myth to forward personal interests,

473
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>financial interest and adjusting the culture in the way that

474
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 1>they want to do it, so they get people involved,

475
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and then hey, these are these guys ideas incredible? Yeah,

476
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean this that goes on. So you had that

477
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>woman Keen write that book. And who's the forward, John Podesta,

478
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:53.079
<v Speaker 1>who's working with some of these other characters. Pictures of

479
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Podesta and Lavenda and this guy Tom Belong Link one

480
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 1>two I've seen in full on issonic regalia. So that's

481
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of suspicious. Yeah, and then he hears this Christopher

482
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Milk and hanging out with Louis Alessandro's all over the place.

483
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is super suspect.

484
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I know, And and lou Alessandro, I've just

485
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I've been reading Imminent, his book Imminent, and this is

486
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>where I'm talking about. The rabbit hole just doesn't seem

487
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>to end. Loue Alessandro is an associate of Christopher Millons,

488
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:30.679
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to be talking about him later on

489
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<v Speaker 2>based on some of the things that he said in Imminent,

490
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<v Speaker 2>And what's important in Imminent is not what he says

491
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 2>about UAPs. It's none of the sensational crap that he

492
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:46.280
<v Speaker 2>says about UAPs. It's some of the stuff that UFO

493
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:50.760
<v Speaker 2>enthusiast if reading the book, he would just totally, you know,

494
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 2>pass over and not even give it a second thought.

495
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<v Speaker 2>And all. First of all, Lou Alesando elaborates upon what

496
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.440
<v Speaker 2>we said in the second installment of the Art of

497
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:06.519
<v Speaker 2>the article that his father, Lou Alexander the Third, because

498
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:10.000
<v Speaker 2>he's Lou Alexander the fourth. Lou e Alexander the Third

499
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 2>was a part of Brigade twenty five oh six. To

500
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<v Speaker 2>Brigade twenty five oh six was a bunch of Cuban

501
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:21.360
<v Speaker 2>exiles that were going to invade Cuba, and they did.

502
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 2>It was called the Bay of Pigs and was complete disaster.

503
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:28.800
<v Speaker 2>It didn't work, but they were tied to E. Howard Hunt,

504
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and E Howard Hunt was a major UFO disinformation agent

505
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 2>because he told his lawyer, well a lawyer for the

506
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Watergate burglars early on Douglas Caddy, that that JFK had

507
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.400
<v Speaker 2>been assassinated in order to hide the quote unquo, I

508
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 2>believe he referred to it as the the alien secret,

509
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:58.360
<v Speaker 2>the alien presence, Yeah, the alien presence, to conceal the

510
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.119
<v Speaker 2>alien presence and all. So you know, so here we

511
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.360
<v Speaker 2>have this very early tie of Lou Alesando to a

512
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 2>UFO disinformation agent and all. But in the book he

513
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 2>goes even farther than what we knew at the time

514
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.280
<v Speaker 2>of the that we came out with the second inst

515
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.920
<v Speaker 2>installment of this series. With the second installment of this series,

516
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>we just we referenced an article that you know gave

517
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>passing mentioned to the fact that Lou Alessando the Third

518
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 2>was in Brigade twenty five oh six. In Lou Alezando's book, Imminent,

519
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 2>what he reveals is that his father never ceased working

520
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 2>with the Cuban exile community, and his father had him

521
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>doing going through all this training, all that going out

522
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 2>to shooting ranges and all this stuff, and Lou Alesando

523
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.440
<v Speaker 2>was wondering what this was all about, and he later

524
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>found out that his father had intended for him to

525
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:03.719
<v Speaker 2>be part of Alpha sixty Alpha sixty six had support

526
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 2>from David Attlee Phillips, a former CIA official who founded

527
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:13.519
<v Speaker 2>the the UH. I'm trying to think of the name

528
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 2>of the organization. Well, the he might have been involved

529
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>in that, but he also founded what was called the

530
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Association of Former Intelligence of Former Intelligence UH Former Intelligence Officials.

531
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's what it's called a A f O

532
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:40.639
<v Speaker 2>I A f I O. And and two members of

533
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:45.519
<v Speaker 2>that association would be you recognize their names and all

534
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>John B. Alexander and Michael Akino again two other UFO.

535
00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and what practice practicing Satanists? Yeah, what practic Wow,

536
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:05.840
<v Speaker 3>that's incredible. Yes, So Adley Phillips is connected to A Kino?

537
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, because it's incredible.

538
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.079
<v Speaker 2>There is a picture. If you go right now, and

539
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:14.760
<v Speaker 2>anybody doubts what I'm saying, go right now to John B.

540
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Alexander's website and he's got a whole area of pictures

541
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>that just shows him with different associates. It's got a

542
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 2>picture of him with Edward Teller, who we go who

543
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 2>we go into in depth and part three of this series.

544
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.800
<v Speaker 2>It's got a picture of him. But but the picture

545
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 2>that in particular, go to the picture of him with

546
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.599
<v Speaker 2>John B. Alexander and read what it says underneath the

547
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>picture with him with John B. Alexander. It's it's it

548
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.639
<v Speaker 2>says that it's it's the two of the that this

549
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.199
<v Speaker 2>is a picture that was taken of the two of

550
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 2>them at an a an A f U I O

551
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 2>meeting at a meeting of the Association of Him of

552
00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Former Intelligences. Uh. Absolutely, and yeah, yeah, yeah, I see

553
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you got it up right there. Yeah yeah, I mean

554
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:11.639
<v Speaker 2>if you scroll down, it's somewhere there. But yeah. He

555
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:14.199
<v Speaker 2>he takes a picture with a Kino and it's at

556
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:17.800
<v Speaker 2>a meeting of the organization that David Attlee Phillips founded

557
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and all. So I'm so, I mean, uh, lewis Elissando

558
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:28.199
<v Speaker 2>the fourth who is the guy that everybody's calling this

559
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:34.639
<v Speaker 2>courageous uh u UFO whistle blower has been tied into

560
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 2>this disinformation organization since he was a child, since he

561
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 2>was a child. Because it's not.

562
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>How many people in the uf OH community know that?

563
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? How many? Yeah, that's how big he bothered to check.

564
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, well, good question. This is David Atlie Phillips.

565
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>He wrote a book Careers and Secret Operations, How to

566
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 1>be a Federal Intelligence Officer.

567
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<v Speaker 2>A little a little tid bit on Michael Aquino, uh,

568
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>aliens and uh extraterrestrials uh uh all those those seemed

569
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>to inhabit a place in the theology of his uh,

570
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.639
<v Speaker 2>his particular variety of Satanism because uh, he speaks of

571
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:27.920
<v Speaker 2>a pantechnicon which was supposedly some sort of alien god,

572
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:34.079
<v Speaker 2>some sort of extraterrestrial uh god of some sort. Yeah, yeah,

573
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I don't know if it's still online.

574
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:37.599
<v Speaker 2>You used to be able to go to it. I

575
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 2>think of a zebr dot org or something like that.

576
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:44.800
<v Speaker 2>It had all these tymple of set uh uh documents

577
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:47.440
<v Speaker 2>in it, and you know, in two or three of

578
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.960
<v Speaker 2>them he talks about pantechnicon in there, so extraterrestrials found

579
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:57.760
<v Speaker 2>their way into the hole setian uh theology. And and yeah,

580
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like Lou lu Ado. Another thing that he

581
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 2>points out and imminent is that he was trained to

582
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.920
<v Speaker 2>be a remote viewer, and so he he knew a

583
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 2>lot of these guys. He knew how Putof, who you know,

584
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:18.159
<v Speaker 2>also looms large on John B. Alexander's side. There's pictures

585
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.199
<v Speaker 2>of him up there with John b Alexander. And and

586
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 2>how Putof also was a was a scientologist for a time,

587
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, deeply tied in with the NSA and the

588
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:34.679
<v Speaker 2>CIA and with with Bigelow's National Institute for Discovery Sciences.

589
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 2>He was a part of that for a time. See,

590
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:39.519
<v Speaker 2>and and what a lot of people think is that

591
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.599
<v Speaker 2>when they look at Lou Alessando and Christopher Millan. They're

592
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:47.840
<v Speaker 2>seeing a clean break from these old deep state connected

593
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:51.079
<v Speaker 2>fringe kind of characters. Well it's not true. When you

594
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:55.480
<v Speaker 2>read immin It, when you read Alessandro's book, you see

595
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.079
<v Speaker 2>that that the that the connections are still there, that

596
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:03.599
<v Speaker 2>the connections remained, and uh, I know that there was

597
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:10.519
<v Speaker 2>a political a political article, uh by the publication Politico

598
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Speaker 2>that had I believe the writer's name was Fastbender or

599
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:22.639
<v Speaker 2>something to that effect. There was an article in Political

600
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>that actually said that Leslie Kane was put in contact

601
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 2>with Louelzando to do the whole famous now infamous kind

602
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 2>of New York Times series on him, and that the

603
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 2>that the man that put her in contact with Loue

604
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Alexanda was none other than Robert Robert Bigelow who started Nitsey.

605
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:50.000
<v Speaker 2>So there is no clean break, you know, the these

606
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:51.480
<v Speaker 2>what's old is new.

607
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>These these guys, they're all spooped up, they're they're all.

608
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Scooped up, and it's and it's all connected, you know,

609
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.519
<v Speaker 2>it's it. They just did a rebranding to make it

610
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:06.639
<v Speaker 2>look like this is this is a clean break from

611
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:13.079
<v Speaker 2>all the old fringy characters that had deep state associations. Well,

612
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>it's that's not the case at all.

613
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:18.679
<v Speaker 1>See guy, this guy Alexander went to Yao of God's

614
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 1>Place and didn't even take it off his website. This

615
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>guy's like trafficking baby murders and murders. Yeah, some of

616
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 1>the darkest stuff imaginable.

617
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Seeing there he is with Edward Taylor right there. Edward Taylor,

618
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:36.159
<v Speaker 2>we get into in the third, the third installment of

619
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:41.920
<v Speaker 2>this series because Edward Taylor was was a part of

620
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:47.400
<v Speaker 2>the American Security Council who won, which was a council

621
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<v Speaker 2>that wanted to see NSC sixty eight the policies of

622
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:58.039
<v Speaker 2>NSC sixty eight continue and and see that's this is incredible. Yeah,

623
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<v Speaker 2>NSC sixty eight was base was basically a paper written

624
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<v Speaker 2>by Paul Nitzy and others that that held that George

625
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Keenan was right in wanting to have a containment doctrine

626
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<v Speaker 2>regarding the Soviet Union. But it but the containment doctrine

627
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:21.880
<v Speaker 2>that Keenan had in mind was two benign. Paul Nitzey

628
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>wanted it to be militarized, and that's what happened. They

629
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 2>followed the UH the prescription. The United States government under

630
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<v Speaker 2>Truman followed the prescriptions of NSC sixty eight and set

631
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<v Speaker 2>us off on this on this on a trend of

632
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:42.679
<v Speaker 2>militarism and statism, and and so so when you read

633
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Mellon's op ed for Washington Post, it's obvious that he

634
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.360
<v Speaker 2>wants to continue with the NSC sixty eight tradition of

635
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:56.000
<v Speaker 2>militarism and statism. But how can you do that when

636
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the Cold War has ended? You got to find new boogeymen.

637
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.480
<v Speaker 2>And so he's he's presenting UAPs as the new boogeyman,

638
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 2>and all, well, well, well, one of the one of

639
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 2>the groups that wanted to see that was promoting n

640
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 2>s C sixty eight uh trends of militarism and statism

641
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:18.960
<v Speaker 2>was the American Security Council. Edward Taylor was a part

642
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<v Speaker 2>of the American Security Council. And Edward Taylor was uh

643
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<v Speaker 2>it seems that he was spreading disinformation of an alien

644
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:36.079
<v Speaker 2>threat that that uh that would you know, basically uh

645
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:41.960
<v Speaker 2>cause people to believe that you know, uh that the

646
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:46.039
<v Speaker 2>military had to be built up in order to meet

647
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:50.159
<v Speaker 2>this this alien threat. He was he was basically using

648
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Project ex Caliber, which was a was a project that

649
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:57.840
<v Speaker 2>he came up with at Lawrence Livermore that that was

650
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 2>supposed to give birth to Star Wars, this project to

651
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:04.880
<v Speaker 2>build a laser, and and the way that they would

652
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 2>do it is that we would set off these nuclear

653
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 2>these nuclear blast underground devices would capture the energy, focus

654
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.320
<v Speaker 2>the energy, and create and and and a laser would

655
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.599
<v Speaker 2>be borne out of it. And the project was a

656
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:24.239
<v Speaker 2>complete almost a complete joke. And all it they they did,

657
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 2>they did create the phenomena, uh, the phenomenon of lay

658
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 2>of lasing, but it never reached the level that would

659
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 2>be needed for Star Wars, and all they lied to

660
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the public and said that it did but in particular Teller,

661
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:45.039
<v Speaker 2>but it never really did meet that meet that that level.

662
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.199
<v Speaker 2>It never it never reached that level.

663
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<v Speaker 1>So so.

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<v Speaker 2>So what Taelor did was used a fraud to build

665
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:58.639
<v Speaker 2>a fraud. He used the he used the the project,

666
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:03.719
<v Speaker 2>He used Project x caliber to create this this UH disinformation,

667
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:08.360
<v Speaker 2>this story, this disinformation story that was then passed around

668
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:13.199
<v Speaker 2>by UH disseminated by individuals like John Lear and William Cooper,

669
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.800
<v Speaker 2>probably unwittingly so that you know they were they were

670
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<v Speaker 2>UH doing all these underground explosions in order to order

671
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:26.559
<v Speaker 2>to create a laser to counter aliens that were uh,

672
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:31.239
<v Speaker 2>that were had that aliens that had underground bases here

673
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 2>on Earth, on Earth and Teller's So a lot of

674
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:42.480
<v Speaker 2>that disinformation that Taylor was spreading was unfortunately also passed

675
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:48.639
<v Speaker 2>to Paul Benowitz through people like Bill Maher and Richard Doty,

676
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:53.079
<v Speaker 2>and it was a large it contributed, uh, it made

677
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.440
<v Speaker 2>a large contribute contribution to the nervous exhaustion that uh,

678
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.880
<v Speaker 2>that Paul Benowitz eventually experience. It's because he eventually had

679
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.320
<v Speaker 2>a breakdown and had to be put in a psychiatric hospital.

680
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And you know they drove him crazy. Right, Yeah, I

681
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.440
<v Speaker 1>think I did a book on that spy spooks and

682
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 1>cooks or whatever you have fossos and cooks, right yeah,

683
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<v Speaker 1>Adam go right, yeah, thank you.

684
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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

685
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:20.559
<v Speaker 1>This website he's connected everybody Mac He's got actresses on here,

686
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:23.920
<v Speaker 1>mentions little with the Michael Akino by name, like yep,

687
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:26.119
<v Speaker 1>that's like make you sit up in your chair, like

688
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>what Yeah, and then all these other people that are

689
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 1>in the news all the time. Yeah, and stand Nap Nap,

690
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>who's all over the places in your article. He's like

691
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>promoting this on Rogan.

692
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's George, George George Knapp is basically, uh, the

693
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:46.280
<v Speaker 2>UFO equivalent of Mockingbird Press. I'm convinced of that and everything. Yeah,

694
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like he's writing about he's supposed to be

695
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>an objective reporter, and he's writing about to the Stars

696
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Academy when he has some kind of stock in it.

697
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:59.719
<v Speaker 2>And and then like his book over Over Skinwalker Ranch

698
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 2>is supposed to be in a quote unquote objective look

699
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:06.599
<v Speaker 2>at Glenn Rocker Ranch, but then his co his co

700
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.639
<v Speaker 2>author on it is a was a member of the

701
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:15.039
<v Speaker 2>National Institute of Discovery Sciences. Again the big the whole

702
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Bigelow outfit and all the whole uh you know, Bigelow

703
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:23.920
<v Speaker 2>constellation and everything. So uh yeah, I mean uh, And

704
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 2>and what we point out in part three of this

705
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 2>series is that a lot of this is happening to

706
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:36.840
<v Speaker 2>continue that militaristic trend, and that militaristic and status trend

707
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 2>that began with Paul Nitzi and the and the uh,

708
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:49.119
<v Speaker 2>the writing and adoption of National Security Council Memorandum sixty eight,

709
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 2>that that NSC sixty eight doctrine to continue with that

710
00:50:53.719 --> 00:51:01.880
<v Speaker 2>because because presenting the Chinese, the Russians, the Iranians, whoever

711
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 2>else as as a reason to continue with this, with

712
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:14.519
<v Speaker 2>this militarist trend, it's not working any it's floundering. So

713
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:19.800
<v Speaker 2>out of desperation they're turning to UAPs now and everything. Yeah,

714
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:26.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean UAPs are are the whole UAP UFO deception

715
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 2>is proof positive of what Phil and I have been

716
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:33.159
<v Speaker 2>saying that we live in the the the age what

717
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:39.519
<v Speaker 2>we call the age of the failing narrative, every narrative

718
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:47.360
<v Speaker 2>that they've come out with, environmental meltdown, the Russians are coming,

719
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the Chinese are going to eat us, nuclear anil, the

720
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:56.559
<v Speaker 2>nuclear annihilation, you know Iran in a new nine to eleven.

721
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's buying these things anymore. It's strange credulity. They had

722
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:05.400
<v Speaker 2>so much overstretch with the BS coming out of the

723
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 2>out of COVID nineteen and that whole operation, that nobody

724
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 2>buys their nonsense anymore. So now there is now they're

725
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.119
<v Speaker 2>getting desperate because all the narratives are failing. So this

726
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:24.039
<v Speaker 2>seems to be the last refuge of the scoundrels. Is

727
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the UAP narrative. The desperation, the desperation is uh made

728
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:35.880
<v Speaker 2>palpable by the fantastical nat you know, the very fantastical

729
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:41.599
<v Speaker 2>nature of the uh ontological shock there attempting to uh

730
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:47.039
<v Speaker 2>provoke because now now no longer is it no longer

731
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:51.400
<v Speaker 2>is a Is it a threat that is located here

732
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:55.400
<v Speaker 2>on Terra Firma, Now it's a threat from out there,

733
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:59.440
<v Speaker 2>from beyond the stars. Yeah. But we're absolutely convinced. That's

734
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 2>what's trying to do with the whole thing is that

735
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:04.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, there there are there are elements in this

736
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 2>deception that are using it to do religious re engineering,

737
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 2>re engineering human spirituality to bring about social engineering. But

738
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Melon and people in Mellon's camp, they're doing it to

739
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:22.039
<v Speaker 2>try to keep this trend of militarism and statism that

740
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:27.119
<v Speaker 2>began back with the adoption of n SC sixty eight going.

741
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.960
<v Speaker 2>That's what That's why Kirsten Gillibrand, who is tied to

742
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:35.159
<v Speaker 2>BAE Systems, her family is tied to BAE system That's

743
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:39.559
<v Speaker 2>what she's that's why she's doing it. That's why our

744
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:44.599
<v Speaker 2>possible new Secretary of State, Marco Rubio is involved in

745
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:49.440
<v Speaker 2>the deception and all and he and he and Kirsten

746
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Gillibrand are like this and all that, and that's why

747
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Loue Elizondo is involved in this because if you read,

748
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:00.159
<v Speaker 2>if you read the book Imminent and I cannot, I

749
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 2>cannot recommend that people read that enough that the audience

750
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:07.159
<v Speaker 2>listeners need to go out and read that and all

751
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.320
<v Speaker 2>uh to see what I'm talking about. You read that

752
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:13.679
<v Speaker 2>book and don't just ignore all the sensational crap in it.

753
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Read about his biography early on in the book at All.

754
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Lou Elissando is a poster boy for the trend of

755
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:29.840
<v Speaker 2>militarism and statism that began with NSC sixty sixty eight.

756
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.800
<v Speaker 2>He in in the book. In the book, he and

757
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:38.119
<v Speaker 2>will will be providing quotes in later installments. In the book,

758
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:42.760
<v Speaker 2>he talks about how he worked at Guantanamo in the

759
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 2>interrogation in the interrogation program there, and that there was

760
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:51.559
<v Speaker 2>a u N arrest warrant out for his involvement in

761
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:57.400
<v Speaker 2>those interre in the that interrogation progress interrogation techniques.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, those are all there are. I've done

763
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:06.679
<v Speaker 1>shows on that. There's no question exactly exactly sensory deprivation repatterning.

764
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<v Speaker 1>You talk to some of those guys who went through that,

765
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:12.039
<v Speaker 1>they got picked up off the street randos, they were

766
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.440
<v Speaker 1>called terrorists and then got he told them hearted with

767
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:17.639
<v Speaker 1>stuff like all the standards stuff. You can see pictures

768
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:20.559
<v Speaker 1>of him. You're there, like have their eyes and ears covered,

769
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:25.239
<v Speaker 1>pants tied together, so they're totally in the sensory deprivation. Yeah,

770
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:27.039
<v Speaker 1>it's straight out of you and Cameron.

771
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<v Speaker 2>In the book, he speaks with resentment over the fact

772
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<v Speaker 2>that he was referred to as the quote unquote America

773
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<v Speaker 2>as as quote unquote America's tortures are that was the

774
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.480
<v Speaker 2>name that they referred to, lou Elizondo, that was what

775
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:44.360
<v Speaker 2>they called him and everything, and he downplaced the torture

776
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>aspects to the interrogation. He said, well, from my perspective,

777
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<v Speaker 2>I was serving my country in the war against terror.

778
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<v Speaker 1>And so those are the covers. I mean, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>This cover actually immense. Admits that he's a Department of

780
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Defense person, like it's crazy, and he's I would be

781
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<v Speaker 1>like this is us right away and eight hundred billion

782
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<v Speaker 1>dollar a year, judget.

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<v Speaker 2>And and and something else. He talks glowingly of his

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<v Speaker 2>former boss, James Clapper. He says that this was a

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00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:19.360
<v Speaker 2>man of great integrity. This is the man that lied

786
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<v Speaker 2>and said no, the NSA is not spying not intentionally.

787
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 2>We're not spying intentionally on the American people. We might

788
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 2>have done it accidentally. And then all the evidence comes

789
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.440
<v Speaker 2>out that shows that Clapper was just flat out lying,

790
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:37.480
<v Speaker 2>and he talks about Clapper in glowing terms, talks about

791
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<v Speaker 2>how he met with Clapper in the green room at CNN,

792
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and Clapper had said that he was proud of Loue

793
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<v Speaker 2>Elizondo and his what he had done with the uf

794
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:52.880
<v Speaker 2>UAP disclosures. So again, this dude is the poster boy

795
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:59.079
<v Speaker 2>for American militarism and he's he's the embodiment of everything

796
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:02.599
<v Speaker 2>that started it n s C sixty eight and all.

797
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:04.960
<v Speaker 1>So he guess who else works for b A Systems?

798
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:10.760
<v Speaker 1>You want to take a guess? James Clapper? Yeah, no,

799
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding. It's right on his It's right on

800
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<v Speaker 1>his uh Wikipedia page. Yeah. And and cheap Operating Operating

801
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<v Speaker 1>Officer British Military Intelligence comping DETICA now deifying US based

802
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<v Speaker 1>subsidy or b A Systems.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

804
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's one big, happy corporate family.

805
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah again. Uh, Kirsten gillibrand her she is connected through

806
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:42.320
<v Speaker 2>her family and and I can't recall who it was

807
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:47.320
<v Speaker 2>if it's their father or her mother and all. But

808
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:52.039
<v Speaker 2>but she is connected directly to b A systems through

809
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.639
<v Speaker 2>through her family. She has a family connection to it.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these people that are you know, that are

811
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<v Speaker 2>part of the the Ellen agenda involved in this deception,

812
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:07.800
<v Speaker 2>the the agenda of militarism have ties to defense contractors

813
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<v Speaker 2>like jilibriand I mean Adam Shift, who did who was

814
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<v Speaker 2>involved in that first big congressional hearing over UAPCE. Adam

815
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Shift is bought up. So UH is totally bought up

816
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:26.800
<v Speaker 2>by Raithon Raytheon has put a lot, has given a

817
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:28.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of money to Adam Shift not.

818
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<v Speaker 1>Even surprise, huge huge presence in California.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

820
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Long under oath to Congress. Right, both accused. Now no

821
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>jail sens for these guys. Yeah, yeah, unbelievable, And it's incredible.

822
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.519
<v Speaker 1>That's how incredible your research and how important it is

823
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:48.559
<v Speaker 1>is because people just take these guys at face value.

824
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:53.079
<v Speaker 1>These guys have these sketchiest connections. Podesta alone just being

825
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:58.679
<v Speaker 1>connected to Podesta, Like I saw Podesta with Schwarzenegger voting

826
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:00.800
<v Speaker 1>for Kamala, and I'm just like what they got on

827
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<v Speaker 1>Schwarzenegger something on to.

828
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<v Speaker 2>Get mister screw your freedoms.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, I don't know, he's got to be compromised

830
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<v Speaker 1>in one way or the other just by sitting next

831
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:13.719
<v Speaker 1>to Podesta, because the average person would want to keep

832
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<v Speaker 1>Podesta forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but but like you said, but like you said,

834
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:24.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, but you know, there's there's also in addition

835
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:27.440
<v Speaker 2>to and what we're going to get into in later installments.

836
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Right now, we're dealing with how this is being used

837
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:36.039
<v Speaker 2>to preserve militarism, right and NSC sixty eight style militarism.

838
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>But like you said earlier, it's also, like you know,

839
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 2>about changing human humanity's UH spiritual outlook and changing changing religions,

840
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:53.880
<v Speaker 2>doing overall halls of people's religions. Well, later on in

841
00:59:54.920 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 2>in the book Imminent, Leuis Alessandro promotes the whole UH doctrine,

842
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and the Nephlim doctrine is basically this idea that the

843
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Nephilim spoken of in Genesis chapter six, you know, had

844
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:15.719
<v Speaker 2>had come down to Earth and polluted the human gene pool,

845
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:20.000
<v Speaker 2>and and that God is this big eugenicist in the

846
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:24.440
<v Speaker 2>sky that has to get rid of everybody except for Noah.

847
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Not because Noah was a righteous man. But because Noah

848
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 2>kept his gene pool clean and and all of that stuff,

849
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:39.280
<v Speaker 2>that that belief you know that that skewed version of

850
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:45.840
<v Speaker 2>of the of of of Yeah, yeah, that skewed version

851
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:50.880
<v Speaker 2>of the Bible began with people like John Darby and g. H.

852
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Pim pimp Uh g H. Pimber. What did Darby and

853
01:00:54.960 --> 01:01:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Pimber have him in common and everything? Sationalism? And they

854
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:05.320
<v Speaker 2>were also part of and you'll be able to appreciate this,

855
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:10.159
<v Speaker 2>they were part of or or associated with the Plymouth Brethren.

856
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Well what did the Plymouth Brethren give us? Alistair Kroller?

857
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:18.840
<v Speaker 2>And this is why, this is why stans Satanic. This

858
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:27.400
<v Speaker 2>is why Satanic apocalypticism is so similar to the apocalyptic

859
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:32.880
<v Speaker 2>beliefs that are floated around in fundamentalist and dispensationalist circles

860
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and all. There's that kind of symbiotic relationship between between

861
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:43.159
<v Speaker 2>evangelicals and the Satanists. They seem to switch sides really easy.

862
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Like a lot of former Evangelicals are now Satanists. A

863
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:50.039
<v Speaker 2>lot of former Satanists are now Evangelicals. And the reason

864
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:57.000
<v Speaker 2>that for that is this shared totally, completely skewed eschatology.

865
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 2>That's that's divorced entirely from Apostolic Christianity. You won't find that.

866
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:07.000
<v Speaker 2>You won't find that belief system in the more apostolically

867
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:11.079
<v Speaker 2>based communions, you won't find it, like, for instance, with Anglicans,

868
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:13.719
<v Speaker 2>you won't find it. With the Orthodox. You won't find

869
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:17.599
<v Speaker 2>it with Roman or Eastern Catholic or Byzantine Catholic. You

870
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:23.519
<v Speaker 2>find it usually with these more fringy style kind of

871
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:28.599
<v Speaker 2>fundamentally a rejected revelation. He didn't get that was worth anything. Yeah,

872
01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:29.639
<v Speaker 2>they don't emphasize it.

873
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're really right, It's really incredible, and it

874
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:34.920
<v Speaker 1>makes you wonder when you see this kind of cultural engineering,

875
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:39.519
<v Speaker 1>this puppeteering, It makes you wonder, like the Nephelin pushers,

876
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:43.679
<v Speaker 1>who else is like who's granting these grants? Who's financing

877
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.280
<v Speaker 1>these ideas? Right? Yeah, I get in the public mind

878
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.719
<v Speaker 1>like Louis Elizondo, like he's all over the news everywhere.

879
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:53.000
<v Speaker 1>His book has would all kinds of downs are bestseller.

880
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:54.960
<v Speaker 1>You know it's supported well well.

881
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Chuck Missler, who really was a pusher of this. He

882
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:02.840
<v Speaker 2>worked with that word Teller. He worked with Edward Teller, who,

883
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:05.039
<v Speaker 2>like I said earlier, you know he was whether the

884
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:11.519
<v Speaker 2>disinformation agents who possibly made UH made UH contributed to

885
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:15.719
<v Speaker 2>the insanity of Paul Benowitz, and at least one of

886
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.920
<v Speaker 2>his associates had told Greg Bishop, who wrote Project Beta,

887
01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:23.920
<v Speaker 2>that it was likely that Teller was a member of

888
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the Aviary. And the Aviary was that coterie of UFO

889
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:34.360
<v Speaker 2>disinformation agents coming out of the government that used William Moore,

890
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:38.599
<v Speaker 2>that used Bill Moore to UH to spread all these

891
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.960
<v Speaker 2>all these lies, you know, And and Richard Doty was

892
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:45.920
<v Speaker 2>either a member of the Aviary or one of the

893
01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:50.760
<v Speaker 2>one of the aviaries intermediaries. And so when you go

894
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:53.559
<v Speaker 2>back by his own admission, so.

895
01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:56.800
<v Speaker 1>When you go back to the fifties, like what UFO

896
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:00.480
<v Speaker 1>story isn't part of the intelligence, right, I mean if

897
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:02.039
<v Speaker 1>you look at the dam Sky and all these other

898
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:05.960
<v Speaker 1>ones and all this uh roswell, this is all kind

899
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.440
<v Speaker 1>of myth making, right, Yeah, it's exactly I mean. And

900
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because it overlaps with Kennedy that one guy

901
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Banister was involved in another uh UFO story too, right.

902
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Banister Banister kept well for the files for

903
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:25.719
<v Speaker 2>the FBI over the the over UFOs and other strange uh.

904
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.199
<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say Fortyana that that the that

905
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:32.079
<v Speaker 2>The X Files would be based off of that, you know,

906
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:37.360
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, and would Richard Dodi also act as an

907
01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:41.280
<v Speaker 2>advisor to Chris Carter, Yes, he acted, he wrote, he

908
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:44.000
<v Speaker 2>wrote that at least two an saus in one other

909
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:48.800
<v Speaker 2>episode of The X Files and everything, So it's incredible.

910
01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:50.079
<v Speaker 2>So it's a it's a it's a rat.

911
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.960
<v Speaker 1>That's a really really good doctor. Oh yeah, a very

912
01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:56.320
<v Speaker 1>an excellent one. And actually talked that he started his

913
01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 1>own publishing company, the guy who did that, so I

914
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:02.280
<v Speaker 1>wish him well into legit.

915
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a it's a great

916
01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:08.840
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those fundamental works that you have to

917
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that you have to watch if you're really going to,

918
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:14.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, do any kind of serious research into UFOs

919
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.320
<v Speaker 2>and and you know what they're really about, and.

920
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Right, what's going on behind scenes. So there's always all

921
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the money, right, all these guys are making money off

922
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:26.280
<v Speaker 1>of this thing. And I pulled up this thing of Clapper,

923
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:31.280
<v Speaker 1>where like Russia is the primary adversary so dangerous that

924
01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're put in context with everything else, we know

925
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:35.199
<v Speaker 1>the Russians are doing to interfere with the election, another

926
01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:38.559
<v Speaker 1>bull and just the historical practice of the Russians who

927
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:45.280
<v Speaker 1>typically almost genetically yep, to bo op, penetrate, the interesting word,

928
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 1>gain favor whatever, which is typical Russian technique.

929
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, even after even after uh, the Soviet imperium falls,

930
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:58.199
<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, they're not communists anymore. Well, you have

931
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:00.679
<v Speaker 2>to understand this is in the Russia's genes.

932
01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:05.159
<v Speaker 1>That's how common. It's just Russians, it's just Russian.

933
01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:07.960
<v Speaker 2>It's just something about those Slavac people.

934
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:11.719
<v Speaker 1>And for people, you know, the Russians, they got it

935
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:16.159
<v Speaker 1>rough because they're just not as pure European. You're easy

936
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:19.199
<v Speaker 1>to like turn them into like skeep coats. Well, you know,

937
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:21.960
<v Speaker 1>total disgrace. These people who believe all this Russian stuff

938
01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:24.920
<v Speaker 1>are stupid. Yeah, they tried, guys, they tried to bring

939
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:28.280
<v Speaker 1>up the Russian like involving the election again in twenty

940
01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:28.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty four.

941
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Yeah, yeah. I think that I think it might

942
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that might go back, And this goes back.

943
01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:38.480
<v Speaker 2>You remember our conversation over the Inglotopian Dreams article that

944
01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:40.480
<v Speaker 2>we wrote. I think that a lot of this goes

945
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:45.280
<v Speaker 2>back to those anglophile networks, the constellation of networks that

946
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:50.559
<v Speaker 2>made up you know, uh, these these true believers in

947
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:55.599
<v Speaker 2>the visions of Cecil Rhodes and John Ruskin. They they

948
01:06:56.480 --> 01:07:00.679
<v Speaker 2>they seemed they were terrified of the Slavic people. They

949
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:04.360
<v Speaker 2>were scared that the Slavic people would be real competitors

950
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:08.519
<v Speaker 2>with the British for World hit Chiminy. And what scared

951
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:13.400
<v Speaker 2>them even more than that, what scared them poopless, was

952
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:18.360
<v Speaker 2>the notion that one day the Slavic people might make

953
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.599
<v Speaker 2>peace with the Germans, and that Russia and Germany would

954
01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:24.480
<v Speaker 2>join together. And if that ever happened, they would become

955
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:28.519
<v Speaker 2>an unstoppable force. And you know, and and and so

956
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:33.880
<v Speaker 2>they did whatever they could throughout history, including recent history,

957
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:39.079
<v Speaker 2>to drive a wedge between Germany and UH and Russia.

958
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Or Europe in general too. So no alliance, no NATO,

959
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.880
<v Speaker 1>NATO did, Russia doesn't get to join, and then you

960
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:47.760
<v Speaker 1>carve everybody out. I mean, this is maybe like Perfidius

961
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Albion or even the neocons is like, hey, the Germans

962
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:55.440
<v Speaker 1>are now got no energy, they've been industrialized. Russians that

963
01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:58.360
<v Speaker 1>they tried to take down the Russian Empire of the

964
01:07:58.440 --> 01:07:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Russian state and it's kind of bad.

965
01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:05.400
<v Speaker 2>It's it's backfired. Horribly. The Germans should have never gone

966
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:08.559
<v Speaker 2>along with the all this because all that oil that

967
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:12.679
<v Speaker 2>was going from going from Russia to Germany is now

968
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:13.920
<v Speaker 2>going over to China.

969
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Or the natural gas like the natural grassrot, the free

970
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:22.319
<v Speaker 1>well relatively cheap natural gas propped up the German who

971
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:24.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have a lot of access to the real energy.

972
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. See, and you have you kind of have that

973
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:32.319
<v Speaker 2>that that brilliance among the Germans, you know, I mean

974
01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:35.159
<v Speaker 2>like the Nazis were awful, but like the scientists, the

975
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:37.840
<v Speaker 2>rocket scientists that just you know, there.

976
01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Is is obviously engineering brilliance.

977
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's obvious brilliance there. So imagine if that brilliance ever,

978
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:48.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, met with the UH, with Russia in terms

979
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:54.359
<v Speaker 2>of Russia's boundless resources, you know, with with Russia providing

980
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the resources and the and the Germans uh, you know,

981
01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:00.960
<v Speaker 2>providing the UH. The technical will know how I mean,

982
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:04.800
<v Speaker 2>they would they not have that, they would be unstoppable

983
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and UH and and they Britain specifically, but the Anglophile,

984
01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:17.239
<v Speaker 2>the whole Englosphere, Anglotopia or whatever generally speaking, would be

985
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:21.159
<v Speaker 2>rendered irrelevant and they just back to the Crimean war too,

986
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:23.520
<v Speaker 2>like just meddling around in Russia.

987
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:23.720
<v Speaker 1>All the time.

988
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely, wow.

989
01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so these guys keep doing. But the cultural aspect,

990
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like some people are really wrapped up in the UFO phenomenon,

991
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:37.399
<v Speaker 1>and that because it's such an ornate tapestry of different

992
01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:41.279
<v Speaker 1>figures and groups and people, they can't see the wizard

993
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:44.239
<v Speaker 1>pulling the levers behind the curtain. I would say, no,

994
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the biggest shame guys. Like it's like that guy

995
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about and the spooks and cooks. I

996
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:53.039
<v Speaker 1>forgot his name, but the guy went insane, like how

997
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:55.399
<v Speaker 1>many people have lost their minds to this stuff?

998
01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Paul Bitewitz, he had he had, if I recall correctly,

999
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:04.399
<v Speaker 2>the poor man had like had erected like a wall

1000
01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:09.039
<v Speaker 2>of sandbags in his house. I mean like, well, he

1001
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:14.079
<v Speaker 2>just basically turned his house into a fort because he

1002
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:16.920
<v Speaker 2>was scared that aliens were coming through the walls. And

1003
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:20.520
<v Speaker 2>they were most likely not aliens because Richard Dodi and

1004
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:24.439
<v Speaker 2>the a FO s I were sneaking into his house.

1005
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.840
<v Speaker 2>But Richard Dody also took note that somebody else there

1006
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:33.560
<v Speaker 2>was evidence that other people were sneaking into into Benewitz's house.

1007
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 2>That was like he saw where a ladder had been

1008
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:39.520
<v Speaker 2>sat against the window during one of their uh, during

1009
01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:41.800
<v Speaker 2>one of their expeditions and all, and.

1010
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:44.720
<v Speaker 1>He's like an Eastern European Stasi mind.

1011
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:50.319
<v Speaker 2>We didn't do that. And you know, he said, well,

1012
01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:52.800
<v Speaker 2>we didn't do that. That must have been somebody else

1013
01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:56.600
<v Speaker 2>in this alphabet soup and so I mean like and

1014
01:10:56.680 --> 01:11:01.159
<v Speaker 2>there was according to Great Bishop allegedly marx like like

1015
01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:05.640
<v Speaker 2>injection marks on Paul Benowitz's arms. So you know, he

1016
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:09.800
<v Speaker 2>he might have been subjected to like mind control experiments.

1017
01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:13.520
<v Speaker 2>But it just, uh, it melted, It melted the man,

1018
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the poor man down.

1019
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.159
<v Speaker 1>How many other benitz are out there, like other people

1020
01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:19.119
<v Speaker 1>have gone through.

1021
01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Their legion, their legion in the UFO community. When when,

1022
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:28.600
<v Speaker 2>when it was all said and done, and Richard Doty

1023
01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:34.119
<v Speaker 2>finally told, you know, Paul Benowitz, it wasn't true. What

1024
01:11:34.279 --> 01:11:37.479
<v Speaker 2>I told you was it was a lie. Paul Benowitz said,

1025
01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:39.319
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to lie to me. I know it

1026
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:41.279
<v Speaker 2>was true. I know you were telling me the truth.

1027
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:43.479
<v Speaker 2>And he went to his grave believing all of it.

1028
01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:47.279
<v Speaker 1>He believed that's the mind control aspect. And so it

1029
01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:49.840
<v Speaker 1>was a mind control aspect to all of the UFOs.

1030
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.079
<v Speaker 2>And you look at that subculture now and even with us.

1031
01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:56.479
<v Speaker 2>The comments that we get, we get, we get some

1032
01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:59.720
<v Speaker 2>nasty comments. Well, Linda melted hell for it. It's it's

1033
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:03.359
<v Speaker 2>that they know was manipulated by Doty every bit as

1034
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:08.119
<v Speaker 2>much as Bitowitz and Linda Bolton. Howe becomes quite hostile

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01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:11.039
<v Speaker 2>when people suggest that the claims that were fed to

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01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:17.079
<v Speaker 2>her by by Doty are somehow false or at least

1037
01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:22.960
<v Speaker 2>somehow errodeous or partially But we've gotten up on shows

1038
01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:26.359
<v Speaker 2>and had people just attack us and like, no, it's real,

1039
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:30.079
<v Speaker 2>it's real. You're the cover up artists, you're the you're

1040
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:32.800
<v Speaker 2>you're one of them. You're the call and see lead.

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01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:36.720
<v Speaker 1>That's a classic cult response, like cult mind responses, accuse

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01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:37.359
<v Speaker 1>the accuser.

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01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:40.600
<v Speaker 2>There are people that you'll never be able to convince otherwise.

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01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:45.720
<v Speaker 1>That's there's something really heavy and disturbing. Matthewfo it's kind

1045
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:48.319
<v Speaker 1>of funny games, but then you kind of see the

1046
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:51.479
<v Speaker 1>wealth behind it and the agendas and that they're not

1047
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:55.640
<v Speaker 1>telling these poor naive global people. You know, you're the

1048
01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:57.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of people you could tell them the global word

1049
01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:00.680
<v Speaker 1>isn't in the dictionary and they just be like really, right,

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01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:05.479
<v Speaker 1>So they found those kind of people, Yeah, and skewed

1051
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:08.119
<v Speaker 1>their lives. I don't think it's it's terrible when you

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01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:09.560
<v Speaker 1>see these agendas and stuff.

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01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:16.000
<v Speaker 2>It is yeah, and and you know, uh, I think

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01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:19.840
<v Speaker 2>that they want those people to be around and for

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01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:24.039
<v Speaker 2>those people to to they want to cultivate their pathology,

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01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:27.079
<v Speaker 2>and then they want them to and then they want

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01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:33.159
<v Speaker 2>those people to spread their pathology. Collinate, Please pollinate, Please pollinate.

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01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's almost like the Dead Deadheads and stuff like

1059
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:39.199
<v Speaker 1>can you create your core followers and tell them to

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01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:40.000
<v Speaker 1>spread everything else?

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01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:44.479
<v Speaker 2>Because because the end game for them will be to

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01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 2>try to to try one last threat narrative and it

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01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:52.439
<v Speaker 2>and this would be that last threat narrative. The UFO

1064
01:13:52.479 --> 01:13:56.479
<v Speaker 2>went because, like like we said, and the the the

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01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:01.199
<v Speaker 2>the this conspiratorial network that we talk about, the deep state,

1066
01:14:01.279 --> 01:14:05.640
<v Speaker 2>all of that, they're not omniscient, they're not omnipresent, they're

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01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:09.439
<v Speaker 2>not perfect, they don't they're not hyper competent. A lot

1068
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:12.600
<v Speaker 2>of their competency went away with the death of three

1069
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:18.600
<v Speaker 2>people Kissinger, Brazinski, and David Rockefeller, and so their their

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01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:23.159
<v Speaker 2>narratives are failing, and out of desperation, they might they

1071
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:28.119
<v Speaker 2>might be might be turning to that as the final

1072
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:31.560
<v Speaker 2>narrative to try to keep control. When you have Paul Krugman,

1073
01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:36.079
<v Speaker 2>who's supposed to be like this nobel economist or whatever

1074
01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:39.720
<v Speaker 2>you know this, yeah, you know, saying that, you know,

1075
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:44.760
<v Speaker 2>an alien invasion would help us to pain inflation. And

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01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:49.159
<v Speaker 2>he's saying this kind of crap. It shows that it

1077
01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:52.520
<v Speaker 2>shows that they are turning to this in desperation. But

1078
01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:55.359
<v Speaker 2>they need the grand they need they need to be

1079
01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:57.800
<v Speaker 2>the ground to be uh fertilized.

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01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:03.359
<v Speaker 1>So you free conditioned people for they need the condition.

1081
01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they need the people to be conditioned for that

1082
01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:11.199
<v Speaker 2>that kind of cosmic Gulf of Tonkin incident that they

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01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:11.680
<v Speaker 2>might have.

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01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's what they did for nine to eleven, Like

1085
01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:17.119
<v Speaker 1>they pre kanditioned people, conditioned people with bin laden and

1086
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:22.119
<v Speaker 1>terrorists terrorists together. Yeah, what do you guys see on

1087
01:15:22.159 --> 01:15:23.439
<v Speaker 1>the horizon, the near horizon.

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01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:27.199
<v Speaker 2>You well, again, I think that they are we we

1089
01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:29.319
<v Speaker 2>think that they're going to try something like, you know,

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01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:31.720
<v Speaker 2>for lack of a better way, putting it like a

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01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:38.600
<v Speaker 2>false flag. Paul Nitzi, who who's who conceived n SC

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01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:42.880
<v Speaker 2>sixty eight. The interesting thing about him is that he

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01:15:43.119 --> 01:15:51.560
<v Speaker 2>was also a major participant in in Operation Northwoods, and

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01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:57.079
<v Speaker 2>he actually wrote some of the ideas for false flags

1095
01:15:57.119 --> 01:15:59.880
<v Speaker 2>that were supposed to be a part of Operation Northwoods.

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01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:02.199
<v Speaker 2>And for the audience those who don't know, and I

1097
01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:05.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know the soul that wouldn't know by now. Operation

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01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:10.039
<v Speaker 2>north Woods was a was a project conceived by UH

1099
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Lyman Lemnitzer, who was the head of the Joint Chiefs

1100
01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:18.079
<v Speaker 2>of Staff I believe at the time, and to cause

1101
01:16:18.119 --> 01:16:23.119
<v Speaker 2>all these terrorist actions and that would then be blamed

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01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:27.439
<v Speaker 2>on Cuba and then that would give the pre that

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01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:31.520
<v Speaker 2>would create the pretext for a military invasion of Cuba

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01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:36.680
<v Speaker 2>by America. Well, Paul Nitzi conceived some of the ideas

1105
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:39.760
<v Speaker 2>as far as those series of false flags, and he

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01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:47.119
<v Speaker 2>was a participant in in UH Operation north Woods. So

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01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:50.640
<v Speaker 2>what we might be looking at on the horizon at

1108
01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:58.199
<v Speaker 2>some point is a cosmic Operation north Woods. But I

1109
01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:03.840
<v Speaker 2>think that'll be the casualties. The casualties associated with that

1110
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:09.800
<v Speaker 2>operation whenever it should it should be hatched, will be real.

1111
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:12.840
<v Speaker 2>But nobody's going to buy it. I don't believe that

1112
01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:16.720
<v Speaker 2>anybody's going to buy it. It's just but they will.

1113
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:19.880
<v Speaker 2>We're pretty convinced they will try to pull it off

1114
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:22.760
<v Speaker 2>at some point. Black swatt of is yeah, because yeah,

1115
01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:26.479
<v Speaker 2>because nothing's working anymore. Nothing else is working. It's just

1116
01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:30.760
<v Speaker 2>not working with the American public anymore. Our our our

1117
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:34.560
<v Speaker 2>credulity was strained too much. It was strained to uh

1118
01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:38.720
<v Speaker 2>to the to the breaking point and all. So you know,

1119
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.079
<v Speaker 2>so nobody's going to buy it. It won't succeed at

1120
01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:47.840
<v Speaker 2>it won't accomplish what they want to to accomplish. But unfortunately,

1121
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:52.119
<v Speaker 2>there will be people hurt because you know, if you're

1122
01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:54.560
<v Speaker 2>going to have like a cosmic Golf of Tonkin or

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01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:58.680
<v Speaker 2>cosmic north Woods project, you're gonna you're gonna.

1124
01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Need casualties, right, casualties. It's real exactly. We lost five thousand.

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01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:06.920
<v Speaker 1>You could be next. That's what they said on nine

1126
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to eleven, Like, hey, terrorist kid us, they could hit you.

1127
01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're gonna use all those psychological tactics.

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01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:16.800
<v Speaker 2>So you have these. You could have like, I don't know,

1130
01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:22.560
<v Speaker 2>a drone attack in the South China, see and they say, well,

1131
01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:24.800
<v Speaker 2>initially we thought it was the Chinese, but it's really

1132
01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:28.119
<v Speaker 2>the Aliens. And you know, this drone attack could take

1133
01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:32.800
<v Speaker 2>out you know, sixty seventy some men on an aircraft carrier.

1134
01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:37.600
<v Speaker 2>They're dead, they're gone, and everything, and you know, and

1135
01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:41.000
<v Speaker 2>and the war drum start to beat for you know,

1136
01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:45.880
<v Speaker 2>it's we need to storm Mars and and you know,

1137
01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:49.600
<v Speaker 2>defeat the Venusians and it won't it won't work, but

1138
01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:53.319
<v Speaker 2>you know it won't work. But unfortunately there'll be all

1139
01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:56.800
<v Speaker 2>these these people that died for nothing, you know.

1140
01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:02.159
<v Speaker 1>So crazy. Well it's really amazing. I mean, people need

1141
01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to read your articles. Where can they read them? It's

1142
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:05.439
<v Speaker 1>at the Canadian Patriot.

1143
01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Right yeah, Canadian the Canadian Patriot Review. And there's three

1144
01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:12.640
<v Speaker 2>of them right now, well no, sorry, four of them,

1145
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:17.439
<v Speaker 2>and three of them are related to the UFO topic.

1146
01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And then like he's getting ready to publish an expanded

1147
01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:26.079
<v Speaker 2>version of Ingleotopian Dreams, so there will be a fourth

1148
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:29.560
<v Speaker 2>one on the horizon and it's a much much longer

1149
01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:34.039
<v Speaker 2>version of that of that article. And like I, like

1150
01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:38.840
<v Speaker 2>we said, we will be doing presentations. Philip's going to

1151
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:41.520
<v Speaker 2>do his presentation on December first. I'm going to be

1152
01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:46.520
<v Speaker 2>doing my presentation on December fifteenth on the on these

1153
01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:49.880
<v Speaker 2>topics and everything, and anybody wanting to visit any of

1154
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.960
<v Speaker 2>our older stuff, you know, please go to Conspiracy Archive.

1155
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:57.439
<v Speaker 2>And hopefully at some point Terry's able to get back

1156
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:00.039
<v Speaker 2>up on his feet because he was a he He

1157
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:02.479
<v Speaker 2>was a great guy who gave us a platform for

1158
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:05.560
<v Speaker 2>a long long time, and a very very good and

1159
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:07.079
<v Speaker 2>responsible researcher.

1160
01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:09.319
<v Speaker 1>And you guys have a couple of books. Can you

1161
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:10.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about those as well?

1162
01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Sure, we have The Ascendency of the Scientific Dictatorship.

1163
01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:19.119
<v Speaker 2>The expanded revised edition of that was released in two

1164
01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:22.119
<v Speaker 2>thousand and six, and it basically charts the course of

1165
01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:28.680
<v Speaker 2>the creation and development of technocracy, which, of course we saw,

1166
01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:36.520
<v Speaker 2>especially during the COVID hysteria, there was essentially a form

1167
01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:39.880
<v Speaker 2>of technocracy enshrined here in the United States, a rule

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01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:44.399
<v Speaker 2>by a cognitive elite people lay claimed to some vaguely

1169
01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:51.680
<v Speaker 2>defined socio political nosis, technical elite, scientific elites. And then

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01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:59.199
<v Speaker 2>we also published more recently Invoking the Beyond, which discusses

1171
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:04.479
<v Speaker 2>the Beyond, a neologism that we assigned to a narrative

1172
01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:09.479
<v Speaker 2>construct invoked by the power elite to induce ontological shock.

1173
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Of the beyond is basically invoked to dwarf representative forms

1174
01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:22.039
<v Speaker 2>of government, parliaments, congresses, what have you, to dwarf them

1175
01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:28.880
<v Speaker 2>epistemologically and ontologically, thereby creating a epistemological vacuum to be

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01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:33.000
<v Speaker 2>filled by a duke sex mockina, typically in the form

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01:21:33.359 --> 01:21:35.199
<v Speaker 2>of a technocratic elite.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. That's great ratings thirty seven five star reviews. A

1179
01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:40.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of information in.

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<v Speaker 2>There too, it's a very thorough seven Yeah, seven years

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01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:46.319
<v Speaker 2>worth of research with that one.

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01:21:46.319 --> 01:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's amazing. Congratulations, Thank you so much, guys. I

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01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:52.399
<v Speaker 1>will put links to everything. Send me any other links

1184
01:21:52.439 --> 01:21:55.279
<v Speaker 1>that you'd like to include in the show notes. It

1185
01:21:55.479 --> 01:21:59.199
<v Speaker 1>was Paul and Philip Collins and we talked about there

1186
01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:02.479
<v Speaker 1>are articles deception through Disclosure, So I'll put links to

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01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:04.319
<v Speaker 1>that as well. People check them out and to give

1188
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:07.720
<v Speaker 1>them to your friends who are into the UFO phenomenon,

1189
01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>because it'll gold be a good way to kind of

1190
01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:12.680
<v Speaker 1>program program. Yeah, you.

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01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Might see the light.

1192
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean what's really scary is just the Intel

1193
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:21.319
<v Speaker 1>connections are just all over the place. They're just ding

1194
01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:23.960
<v Speaker 1>ding ding ding. It's almost like which one isn't an

1195
01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:28.239
<v Speaker 1>intel or a cold operative or both. Maybe they're an intel.

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01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:31.199
<v Speaker 2>And a cold operative. Yeah, and and and everyone opens

1197
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:34.600
<v Speaker 2>up a new a new rabbit hole. I mean, yeah,

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01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:36.239
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just like I.

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01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Had no idea about dolus in like the early UFOs,

1200
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know you had like his evil wand

1201
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:44.600
<v Speaker 1>in that pot too, like oh yeah, oh yeah. Well

1202
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:47.319
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because it ties in with my earlier talk.

1203
01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:49.319
<v Speaker 1>We were just talking about mocking bird befoure.

1204
01:22:51.800 --> 01:22:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something we talked about in the book that we

1205
01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:56.520
<v Speaker 2>haven't spoken about in the articles yet. It's probably going

1206
01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:59.680
<v Speaker 2>to be in the presentation. There was a lawyer out

1207
01:22:59.720 --> 01:23:03.640
<v Speaker 2>of Cincinnati by the name of Thomas Iikoff. He wanted

1208
01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:12.199
<v Speaker 2>to sue Georgiadomski and for fraud because he had passed

1209
01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:16.159
<v Speaker 2>his literature through the United States Postal Service. So he's like,

1210
01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:20.560
<v Speaker 2>you're using the United States mail to perpetrate a fraud.

1211
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:28.479
<v Speaker 2>And the the Council Legal Counsel for the CIA looked

1212
01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:31.640
<v Speaker 2>into Thomas Iikoff and said, well, does he have legal

1213
01:23:31.760 --> 01:23:34.520
<v Speaker 2>standing here? Does he have the grounds to bring his

1214
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:39.119
<v Speaker 2>suit against Georgia Doomsky And they found that yes he did.

1215
01:23:39.239 --> 01:23:43.279
<v Speaker 2>But Alan Dallis said, if anybody tries to, I will

1216
01:23:43.479 --> 01:23:47.640
<v Speaker 2>we will bring an injunction. We will bring an a junction.

1217
01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:51.479
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, yeah, I know.

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01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Most people and he has the same mentality of all

1219
01:23:54.159 --> 01:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>these guys. A small technological elite should be the ones

1220
01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>ruling everything. That's really what dolls believed. Yeah, I think

1221
01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that he kind of pulled that off in a lot

1222
01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>of ways. I mean, incredible stuff. Yeah, he was really nefarious,

1223
01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I think he was good at secrecy and concealing himself.

1224
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely kind of puppeteering. So it's just like, oh, he's

1225
01:24:14.439 --> 01:24:15.479
<v Speaker 1>just ahead of intelligence.

1226
01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he had a brilliance to him that this

1227
01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:23.359
<v Speaker 2>latest crop of deep state actors and elites don't have.

1228
01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:26.199
<v Speaker 2>And that's what we have going for us. I mean,

1229
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>with the death of these older guys and all that,

1230
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:33.640
<v Speaker 2>while evil were had had a strange kind of brilliance

1231
01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:36.880
<v Speaker 2>to them. With their death and all we we have,

1232
01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:42.359
<v Speaker 2>you know what's left over, Well, these these pampered elites

1233
01:24:42.399 --> 01:24:45.239
<v Speaker 2>who you know, never had to perform, never had to

1234
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:48.039
<v Speaker 2>do anything in their whole entire lives, and.

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01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>So you know, so the old ones were very competent.

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01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean I think we've talked about this before, William,

1237
01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:02.960
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, when when when you have Mika Brazenski

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<v Speaker 2>make in this moment of parapraxis saying, oh they they

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<v Speaker 2>it's not there. It's not their place to tell people

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<v Speaker 2>what to think. That's our job. And you consider the

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<v Speaker 2>fact of who her father was and her father Big

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<v Speaker 2>Big Zebig Pressensky would have never he would have never

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<v Speaker 2>made a goof up of a flow up. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>would have never.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there's a there's been I mean that with

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<v Speaker 2>with the passing of those those three giants Kissinger, z

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<v Speaker 2>Big and Uh and David Rockefeller, there's been a brain drain.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a there's been a loss of the intellectual

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<v Speaker 2>base of the covert circles, the deep state retainers of

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<v Speaker 2>the of the oligarch there's of the oligarchs, there's been I.

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<v Speaker 1>Put George W. Bush in there too. The elder elder

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<v Speaker 1>is very sinster character too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he was, he was. Yeah, I mean, h

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<v Speaker 2>W was pretty smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, George W.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not so much. So there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank God that the competency level is degrading. It's

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<v Speaker 1>good for humanity. Yeah, you have to thank God anyway, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much, great to talk with you, Paul and

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Collins. I'll put all the links in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Bill, Yeah, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>William, stay there.
