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Speaker 1: Shhh.

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Speaker 2: Our guest tonight is run House Michael Bigfoot.

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Speaker 3: Looking back on the life that you leave.

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Speaker 4: Him then rested only in the crowd, stick around.

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Speaker 5: Through the crate, the feeling go the fire.

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Speaker 4: You be dancing around on hearing sound of treating and.

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Speaker 3: No one cares where he's coming from my ears and

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no riding feeding.

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Speaker 4: I can guess me. I'm new from the start the

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days not cause you know one of these days will

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be the world. Lances want a disaster. He's on the task.

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My coast, that costa.

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Speaker 6: Leaning the fumes of the ashes, the spirits that I

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looking down the house.

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Speaker 7: We're life from the Untold Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: It's Untold Radio Am with Monster Quest producer host Doug

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Hicheck and co host Jeff Pirella Jr.

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Speaker 5: Untold Radio Am is going live right now.

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Speaker 2: This show is for entertainment purposes only.

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Speaker 7: Yep, that's the ticket.

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Speaker 2: Now Here are your Untold Radio A m posts, Doug

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high Check and Jeff Corella Jr.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, oh gee there see I feel more comfortable

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on it. I'm on the left side. I get the

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left side. They switch. Do you have control over that?

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You do?

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Speaker 7: Yep? Just like magic, this magic, it's like the shuffling cards.

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Speaker 5: Anyhow, Happy Father's Day to all the dads everywhere. It

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is a beautiful evening to get together with all of

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our fellow Ontolians. This is a beautiful Sunday night. I

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hope it's nice where you're at. It sure as nice here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been a great weekend.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been like seventies. It's going to be seventies

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all week job.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I love you.

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Speaker 5: Gotta get out and ride. You mean you'll go out

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for a motorcycle ride somewhere.

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Speaker 7: I'm down all right ready?

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Speaker 5: Anyhow, it's June twenty. First we are on episode three

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is a three or four? Three or three is three

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or three? All right? And we've got Ron Howes with

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us yep. Ron works with people who suffer from PTSD

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after Bigfoot encounters. Of course, maybe other encounters. We'll have

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to ask him. But he's been on countless expeditions all

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over the all over the country, and so we're going

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to kind of explore all sorts of things and maybe

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get into even some other kryptons.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm looking forward to talking to him.

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Speaker 5: But he is known as biker Bigfoot, so he goes

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to uh my conferences and stuff. And I think that's

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how he got got his story out, because he dressed

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up as a bigfoot and then rode as Harley cool

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to these conventions, and of course that would attract attention,

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right sure, Yeah, I would walk up to him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah that's awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so maybe you could be You could be on

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your Moto gutsy and we're a bigfoot cost Jeff, it

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never never occurred to you, It did.

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Speaker 7: It didn't. It does seem like Bigfoot kind of belongs

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to the Harley though probably a Harley guy, hardly.

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Speaker 5: Not a Moto gus. We could be an Italian big Foot.

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I guess I have a little like I have a

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little curly hillbar mustache or something anyhow, But I get

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to visit with Ron. He seems like a really cool guy.

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I think you really enjoy him. And he'll share his

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encounter too, looking forward to it. Yeah, and I he

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did not share his or with me, So I have

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no idea what's coming up. So stay tuned for Ron. Plus.

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We have clips, we have some fake as funk, we

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have weird and fast news and a whole lot more.

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So you want to turn those lights down, grab your

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comfy chair, pour yourself a cool beverage, and relax, like, Jeff.

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Speaker 7: Really, I'm relaxed.

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Speaker 5: You are relaxed. You look, you look all.

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Speaker 7: Smiling tonight, trying to smile?

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Speaker 5: Are you trying? What do you mean trying? You shouldn't

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have to try to smile. You're just you just you're

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just happy, pretty good mood you are. Yeah, I notice.

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So anyhow, grab your comfy chair, pour yourself a cool beverage.

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Don't do don't pour yourself the kind of beverage Jeff

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probably had. Nope, and relax as we take a little

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bit of a journey with a few chills tonight, I think. Yeah, anyhow,

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we are your home of.

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Speaker 7: Unverified crap all always.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't even have to put it up because

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apparently it's in the open now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I like it. It's in the video open and

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there's T shirts available now. Yeah, that's funny. How that

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kind of got some legs. That can take me very

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Speaker 5: Jeff, Jeff, Jeff designed the logo. Oh, he's going to

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put it up very I like some of the other

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stuff because it's what does it say in the cup again?

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Speaker 7: Question everything and believe nothing. Yeah, that was it. I

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love that saying that's a good, good philosophy.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we need to get a T shirt out with

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just that on that would that would be a good one.

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Speaker 7: Because we don't take this too seriously.

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Speaker 5: No, well we do. We don't.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because it's true. It is true.

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Speaker 5: It's you know this stuff. That's why we explore it.

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If it was all verified, we wouldn't be talking about it, right.

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Speaker 7: We were phrase, we don't take ourselves too seriously. That's

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a better way of phrasing us. We take the topics.

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Speaker 5: They're welcome here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, ask questions.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with our weird and fast news, and it's weird.

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Speaker 7: Time for some news.

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Speaker 5: It's time for weird and fast news. First off, we

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have a spider that pretends to be a zombie fungus.

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Would you like do you have that on your head?

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Scientists have discovered a new Amazonian spider in Ecuador that

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disguises itself as a parasitic fungus.

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Speaker 7: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: The species Jeff's gonna pronounce this, the species of tezonal

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ski Yeah. I can see wasca in there, right, I.

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Speaker 7: Got taxoa, I don't know, yeah, taxing kiasca.

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Speaker 5: There you go. It has a pale body, structures that

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look like fungus gross and it even sits motionless under

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leaves where where real spider killing fungi are usually found.

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Then they realized the fungus had eight legs. This is

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the first documented case it was spider mimicking a fungus

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that normally infects spiders. So that is a little odd

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spider pretending to be the very thing that kills it.

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Speaker 7: Nature is amazing other to it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, are you one of those people when you find

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a spider in your house, you catch it alive and

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release it.

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Speaker 7: I don't, I don't kill I don't kill bugs. Nless,

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but most bugs live and let live.

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Speaker 5: Ser Okay, see you're not a squashing kind of guy.

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Speaker 7: Okay, only only biting and stinging bugs. Otherwise.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm keeping all of my judgment in my pocket.

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And then this could this next thing is pretty cool.

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So apparently human regeneration may not be gone, just switched off.

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So apparently researchers at Texas you him say, mammals may

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have a hidden regenerative powers that can be reactivated. So

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in animal studies they use two stage treatments involving growth

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factors f g F two in BPM two to redirect

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healing away from scar tissue and towards regrowth. Okay, the

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treatment restored bone joint structures, tendons, and ligaments after amputation

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in study animals. Kind of crazy. So the big idea

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here is that humans and other mammals may not have

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completely lost the ability to regenerate complex body parts. The

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system may simply be buried under our normal scar forming response.

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The regrown tissues were not perfect copies yet, so give

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us some time, and this couldn't I mean, think of

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all the people I could help.

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Speaker 7: Wow, yeah, okaid to regenerate lost tissue, that's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Or somebody with even rheumatoid you know, they could

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get their their joints rebuilt. Or somebody with a bad HILP.

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Speaker 7: Of organs hearing envision issues.

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Speaker 5: Know. Yeah, and then uh, story number three, The male

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clinic finds the kidney as a secret backup system. Male

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clinic scientists have under uncovered a hidden way of kidney

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how blah, blah blah. Male clinic scientists uncovered a hidden

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way the kidneys conserve water. Okay, and this is separate

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from something they call vastos vast oppression, the hormone long

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believed to be the main controller of urine concentration. I

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didn't know there was a hormone for urine concentration. That

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the discovery came by accident. When researchers were testing something

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called probing sid, an old drug from the nineteen forties.

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They expected it to worsen polycystic kidney disease cell models,

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but instead it slowed cyst growth. The surprising pathway involved URATE,

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better known as a molecular molecule linked to gout. Now,

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when I was fifteen, I did a lot of experience,

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a lot of experience experiments with uric acid as for

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a chemical reaction that I was.

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Speaker 7: Trying to get interesting.

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Speaker 5: So it's like it's only like a teenager with bags

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of uratic acido. Anyhow, Let's see inside kidney cells, URATE

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acts like a signal that moves water channels to the cell.

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So it moves them to the cell service helping the

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body or water. In a small clinical trial, adding, I

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hate this word probin acid. It reduced urine volume by

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thirty percent of patients, which could be a huge for

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people who take p k D drugs that make them

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urinate constantly, and probably people with prostate problems.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That was like a lot of bloh blah blah. I'm

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not sure what was that interesting? Okay, And then a

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dying porpoise species gets a digital afterlife. The ven the quita,

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the world's most endangered marine mammal, now has a digital lifeline.

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Researchers created a detailed three D model of a rare

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wikita skeleton using CT scans, micro CT imaging, and digital photography.

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northern Gulf of California, and only a handful are estimated

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to remain in the wild. I didn't know that either.

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I've heard of the I've heard of them, but I

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didn't know there was that few of them. This virtual

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archive could let museum schools researchers study and even print

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accurate replicas of the animal before it disappears forever. I

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don't think they will hand hint, it's a bittersweet story.

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We may be digitally preserving a creature we failed to

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protect physically. It says the main threat remains illegal gill

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net fishing tied to the black market. Uh yeah, okay.

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And then they figured out how to turn red lettuce

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turned into green lettuce, and then got something chemically stranger, boring,

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so too boring to even go into. No researchers to

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use on genome editing. Genome editing to turn red lettuce

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green by blocking a gene involved in making red. God,

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why did they do this to me? Anthrosinin pigments. But

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instead of just changing color, the lettuce redirected its chemistry

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and built up another beneficial plant compound, including flavonoids such

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as quercitin, which isn't I'm sure all junk food, right, Yeah,

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it's all jeff junk food. Best part, the editing lettuce

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kept growing normally. What could go wrong? This points towards

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future custom nutrition crops where scientists can tune the chemical

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profile of vegetables without hurting plant growth. It's not just

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lettuce color, it's like re routing the plant's internal factory. Yeah,

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we could go on red pigment off other antioxygens and

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compounds up and on there you go.

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Speaker 7: Sounds like a bad idea.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's they're messing with everything, aren't they. Now, we're like,

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we're like an alien in our own mankind is like

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an alien invasion on our own our own foods.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just don't mess with it.

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Speaker 5: Oh all right? And then number six is about chronic

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wasting disease may spread silently across species something they didn't know.

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Speaker 7: That's not good either.

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Speaker 5: A University of Calgary study looked as to whether chronic

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wasting disease, the fatal prion disease affecting deer and elk,

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could move beyond serviands. Researchers found that infectious prion prions

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folded protein. It's not alive. It's not a live like

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a virus or a bacteria or virus. And that's why

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they can't be killed. So what happens is when you

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get two folded protein cells next to each other, they'll

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and it'll fold. And so as these protein cells start folding,

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they kill or make the host. You'll have a lot

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of health problems, right, And a lot of this happens

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in the brain. And if you eat prions or preons,

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it can possibly cause these things to start forming in

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your body. So now everybody knows it's just a folded

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protein cell.

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Speaker 7: So don't eats.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, okay, so I'm just looking here. So it says.

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but preons are creepy because they can change as they

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pass through hosts and infected animals.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Infected animals can shed prions into soil vegetation through urine

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feces long before looking sick. So, in other words, you

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crap like crazy. There's no symptoms, uh, it says, and

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this makes the disease very hard to predict and hard

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to control. And once again I said, a prion is

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a misfolded protein that can make other proteins fold wrong

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to and you can't kill them. I mean you just

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you can't. And that's unsettling when you can't cook, you know,

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you can't cook a problem away.

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Speaker 7: So I think, yeah, good advice is don't eat organs.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's I guess. I don't really know what

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the advice is. And I have there been human infections yet,

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or somewhere, I swear. And there's different forms of prion diseases.

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Speaker 7: So anyhow the brain, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: So the next one is this is interesting. Bird flocks

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that defight Newton's Newton finally get explained, all right. Physicists

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tackled a strange problem bird flocks, bacterial swarms in crowds,

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Newton's third law. Right. Newton's third law is for every action,

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there's an equal and opposite reaction. So whatever you're following

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or whatever is behind you should have some effect on you, right,

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all right, So here's this work. It's interesting. It says

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you know, it's the old equal reaction role. A bird

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may respond to bird besides it, beside it, or ahead

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of it, but not to the birds behind it, okay,

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so creating a one way interaction. Scientists call these non

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reciprocal interactions the let's say they call these non reciprocal

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interactions the new trick is wild Researchers add imaginary partner

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variables to the math, basically fake birds so these systems

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can be modeled more accurately. They fake partners that don't

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exist in nature, but they let the equations behave as

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if the system is reciprocal in plain English. To explain

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real bird flocks, scientists had to invent ghost birds newtons.

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Their law is forever. Yes, Now, if you understood that article,

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you need to just go home and leave, shot your

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computer off and just leave because you don't need us.

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Speaker 7: Well, the model doesn't make sense unless they kind of

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make up a fake bird sitting there. Yeah, it's well,

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what that tells you is the birds have an extra

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senses that aren't really apparently.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not just bird flocks, it's apparently bacterial swarms

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and even crowds of people, so that apparently Newton's third

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law does not apply to certain groups, is what they're

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trying to figure out why it doesn't apply to groups,

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and they and it works if they add a ghost person,

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a ghost bird behind you. I don't know, I like, yeah,

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moving on, moving on. My head's about to explode. And

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then scientists expected a black hole, but they found a

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star powered neutrino factory. Okay, astronomers tracing the high energy

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neudrino signal to a distant, dusty galaxy. I didn't know

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galaxies were dusty, named shadow Blaster, which is about eleven

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billion light years away. Right. They expected a supermassive black

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hole to be the power source, but that's usually what

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gets blamed for the extreme cosmic particle activity. Instead, Alma

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observations found the galaxy energy appears to come from an

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intense star formation. The galaxy is so dust shrouded that

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visible light can't easily reveal it, but the gravitational lensing

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acted like a natural telescope that magnified the view. Cupooh,

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my head's exploding. Researchers thing compact Dutch Dutch Yeah, it's

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Dutch dust rich star burst galaxies like Shadow Blaster could

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amount for as much as twenty percent of the universe's

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high energy neutrinos. In summary.

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Speaker 7: In the summary, it gives a damn.

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Speaker 5: Scientists went looking for a black hole and found ghost

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particle factory powered by baby stars.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, now Ember one, let's get ready, because we're

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gonna have a test in all this. Yes, yes, and ready.

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Speaker 5: Jeff's gonna give away a million, one million dollars in

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an unverified crap T shirts.

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Speaker 7: Unverified. It's an unverified contest.

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Speaker 5: He's going to send you one hundred and eighty million

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cases of T shirts.

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Speaker 7: Verified. I can't verify that. No, not a contest.

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Speaker 5: I'm just verified.

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Speaker 7: It's not happening.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's chat. Let's get out of the I

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didn't do weird Fact of the Week because my week

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was already too weird.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that sounds like it.

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Speaker 5: That's the weird fact of the week. My week was weird.

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That's it.

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Speaker 7: That's a great week.

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Speaker 4: I was on.

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Speaker 9: I was there off Thursday Friday. I had a fantastic Well,

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that's good, I'm glad you did. I even had a

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work in Father's day today. Well you're working right now,

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but you ain't got any.

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Speaker 5: Kids, so you're not a father yet.

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Speaker 7: But I called my dad, Yes, right, you had.

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Speaker 5: To celebrate Father's Day with your father?

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Speaker 7: Called my dad this morning.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and what did you say to him?

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Speaker 7: Happy Father's Day?

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Speaker 5: Well that was creative.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the best you could come up with. Well,

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well we chatted more than that, but yeah, that's why

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I started out. That's good.

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Speaker 5: Anyhow, All right, let's go into the little fake as

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funk or is it fake or funk?

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Speaker 7: Fake or funk? Let's find out is.

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Speaker 4: It BS funk? Have we been bumped? Is it BS fakes?

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Have we been bumped?

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Speaker 5: All right, Oh, we gotta you can start putting up

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comments now for this little and we have three clips yep,

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so please stay whether you think it's fake, just put

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fake or funk to be you know what you think?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 5: Clip one, I should say clip ff one. Sound is good?

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Go ahead and play it. What is this? It's like

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little fingers on there?

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Speaker 7: That's odd.

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Speaker 5: See like little means now that could be just somebody

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under the water and just moving around with like black

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gloves on. Play it again. Is it like like a

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creature or is it somebody goofing on? I don't like

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think I h o quoe like steamboats.

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Speaker 7: Reaction just goes huh yeah, I don't understand, Kenny.

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Speaker 5: Kenny says, funk.

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Speaker 7: Something's flipping around back there. I don't know what. So

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what the hell?

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Speaker 5: I can't even I can't put comments up?

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Speaker 7: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Did I get demoted? Apparently I did? I got demoted.

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I'm demoted, Jeff, unless you can tell me?

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Speaker 7: He both said, huh.

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Speaker 5: So, I've got Elizabeth's funk slices. Funky fish.

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Speaker 7: That's kind of what I think. I think it's probably

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a fish flipping around.

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Speaker 5: It was very funky funk. It's just a fishtail l

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l and water water logged bird, probably going down for

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his last time. It's a seahorse galloping.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, who knows.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's drinking beverages? Okay, clipped f F two And this

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is interesting, couldn't play this? Is this all right, y'all?

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Speaker 1: Allegedly behind me is Gilgamesh's ring.

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Speaker 7: It's one of his rings.

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Speaker 5: It's absolutely massive.

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Speaker 1: Just imagine the being that could wear that and it

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actually fits. They had to have been anywhere from twenty

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to thirty feet tall. I think it's sterling silver.

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Speaker 5: That's what you can.

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Speaker 7: Says on that.

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, what was it?

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Speaker 7: Was it?

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Speaker 8: What was it?

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Speaker 5: His comment that it fit really nice?

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Speaker 7: Well, nothing's been I don't think there's any physical artifacts

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of Gilgamesh have been found.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying, but did you hear what he said?

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He said it fit, it fits really nice? Yeah, how

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would you know such a thing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna go with bs.

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Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, no no, no, it's fake

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or it's funk or real funkunk fake, fake fake. You

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guys are supposed to say funk, it's not fake, but

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you Yeah, and then floating biggerfoot says a real deal.

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He's probably kidding, but he might be really never know,

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I mean none, we don't. Every guest is unverified crap.

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Speaker 7: Yep, that's true, man, that's verified that it'sied. Crap. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Clip three. Now this is really interesting. Actually, you guys

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went like this clip f f three. Even the dog

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is weirded thout.

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Speaker 7: My dog's weirded out.

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Speaker 5: Even my dog knows something like that. Man. Okay, so

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if you wanted to debunk that, you'd have to probably

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find the clip and then go and see what other

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clips a I puts in. That's the first thing I do, right.

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In other words, if there's stuff floating in every one

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of his clips, well then you know he's got that

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string trick figured out. But the dog is looking at it.

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So is that fagas funk or show?

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Speaker 7: I mean, why would he focus more on what's in

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the sky? You think it's real?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 5: Well, how do you think he did it? I don't know.

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Is there a tree up there?

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Speaker 7: Look? It just looks like an odd video.

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Speaker 5: Okay, put up Michigan Sandman says it's a cloud branch.

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Steamboat goes clunk, Kim says fake. He seems more interested

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in his dog, which is weird. Slide foxes it's funny.

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Loretta says it's a drone. Uh, Steamboat says monofilament looks

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like a kite. Nope, just nope from Jen. Now that

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dog has pt PTSD.

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Speaker 7: I mean it looks like a branch hanging on something.

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Speaker 5: Huh. Can you put up comments or you can't? You either?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I can't.

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Speaker 5: How come I can't?

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Speaker 7: I don't know what the hell is my deal?

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Speaker 5: Did you take? Am? I am I powerless? I don't

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know how come I my powers? My superpowers have been

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taken away?

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Speaker 7: No clue, I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: All right, clip picks, we're done with the Vegas Funker.

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What's the name of the segment called? I don't even

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know facas funk that fake as? Is it? Bs?

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Speaker 7: I think it should be b as fake? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Well what is it made?

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Speaker 6: It?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, I can't remember again, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Is its fund? Have we been pumped? Its bumps? Have

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we been pumped?

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Speaker 7: There? You go ask the guy who made the bumper.

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Speaker 5: It's all I said was fake and funk punk. I

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didn't say any about real, did I know? Never even

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use the word reel.

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Speaker 7: For some clips.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, let's do our clip picks. Clip one is

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from Tim e Sewell. Give him good credit that he

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captured this on one of his camera traps, and it's

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a clip of word clip of a whole family of Couders.

468
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,799
Speaker 7: They're typically pretty solitary, aren't they.

469
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah they are. But it's probably a family.

470
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 7: Wow, that's cool.

471
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,279
Speaker 5: It's probably it's you know, I don't all only stay

472
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:07,519
with the kids stay with their mom, but I or

473
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:08,519
the cubs stay.

474
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 7: With their mom. But that's pretty cool, probably thinking a

475
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:14,799
year and a half. Yeah, I've never seen that before.

476
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 5: Oh, it's cool, Thank you, Tim. Clip two. This is interesting,

477
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,599
but you're gonna want to start it at the thirties

478
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:26,559
six second mark.

479
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 10: That's the very beginning. You say, it's a ninety year

480
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,119
cover up. Just about Yeah, ninety years. Nineteen thirty three

481
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:42,880
was the first recovery in Europe. In Magenta, Italy, they

482
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,160
recovered a partially intact vehicle.

483
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 11: It's long been known that the regime of dictator Benito

484
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:57,480
Mussolini documented numerous UAP during this time. This internal memo

485
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:04,079
from the Italian secret services includes crude drawings of the UAPs.

486
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:05,720
It's true, it's real.

487
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, that actually happened.

488
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,599
Speaker 12: The Italian government moved it to a secure air base

489
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,800
in Italy for the rest of kind of the fascist

490
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,719
regime until nineteen forty four, nineteen forty five. And you know,

491
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,920
the Popie is the twelve back channel that sod yeah

492
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,519
and told the Americans what the Italians had, and we

493
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:24,480
ended up scooping it.

494
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 11: After my conversation with David Grush, a News Nation producer travel.

495
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:35,599
Speaker 5: Anyhow, as you heard, that was David Crush, and he

496
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,880
has been so highly vetted, but he claimed the captured

497
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,480
the UFO in the thirties, so it's been a ninety

498
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:45,159
year cover up. And that's why I played it. I

499
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,760
heard that sound by.

500
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:48,559
Speaker 7: I heard that before either, No.

501
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 5: Thinking about that. Can you I mentionine Thember having a

502
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:58,480
UFO in the thirties, Yeah, I mean he's wanting to

503
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:00,440
drive allays right.

504
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, thirty three was Yeah. Still let fabric covered airplanes

505
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,159
in thirty three.

506
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 5: That'd be like that'd be like you, you know, giving

507
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,039
your iPhone to a caveman and having thinking naked reverse

508
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:15,760
engineer it. It would be no different.

509
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh god.

510
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,639
Speaker 5: Let's see what do we got next. Let's see here

511
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:27,320
Clip three. This is about the magic of nine. It's math,

512
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,639
but it's interesting, sure, but really interesting.

513
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,079
Speaker 7: Go ahead.

514
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 13: There's a number with a missing digit and it does

515
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:38,679
something impossible. It starts with something simple, the digits one

516
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,559
through nine, but someone removed the eight, just deleted it.

517
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,480
What's left is twelve million, three hundred and forty five thousand,

518
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:48,800
six hundred and seventy nine. And this is where the

519
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:54,840
magic begins. Watch what happens When you multiply it by nine,

520
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:58,000
you get one hundred eleven million, one hundred eleven thousand,

521
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,679
one hundred eleven nine ones in a perfect row. That's strange,

522
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,559
but it gets stranger. Times nine, all ones, double that,

523
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,280
times eighteen, all twos, keep going, all threes, all fours,

524
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,840
all fives, all sixes, all sevens, all eights, and all nines.

525
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:17,239
Every multiple of nine gives you a wall of identical digits.

526
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,639
This number is not random, it's designed. So why does

527
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,239
this work? Think about it backwards? Take one hundred eleven million,

528
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,800
eleven thousand, eleven divine.

529
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,079
Speaker 7: Huh Yeah, number theory gets pretty wild.

530
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just like, I don't want people to go.

531
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 7: There's going to be a test at the end.

532
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 5: No, All right? Clip four is you know we all

533
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,559
know data centers are coming to a place near you.

534
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:51,639
That's going to happen, and it's because of AI and

535
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:55,239
a lot of people. They've been talking about water use

536
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,199
and talking about the power use. But what about this.

537
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:01,880
Let's into the sound of a data center.

538
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 6: This is the delarge.

539
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 14: It's very small, but here's a noise.

540
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 5: Can you be a tone?

541
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 7: Yuck?

542
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,199
Speaker 5: All right, that's enough.

543
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 7: That's unpleasant.

544
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 5: That's kind of unpleasant, isn't it?

545
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: Yes?

546
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 5: What could go wrong? There? They're gonna build them right

547
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,320
in there, bringing your back your yard there. No thank you,

548
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:31,000
I could hurt property values.

549
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 7: No you think I think it could?

550
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 5: All right?

551
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 7: Last one, I.

552
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,159
Speaker 5: Guess we need them. Last clip clip five. Tall isn't

553
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:42,719
the word to describe these two gentlemen you're about to

554
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,000
see well.

555
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 8: Speaking on stage at the one billion Followers Summit, mister

556
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,400
Beasts suddenly paused mid talk after spotting something unusual in

557
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,559
the audience.

558
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,079
Speaker 14: Or answer that can can you too? Stand up real quick?

559
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,519
Those guys might be the tallest guys I've ever seen

560
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:57,039
in my life.

561
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,639
Speaker 8: Standing among the crowd were two men so tall that

562
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:03,599
they immediately caught his attention. Mister Beast stopped the presentation

563
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,039
and openly commented on their height, clearly stunned by what

564
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:07,800
he was seeing.

565
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,679
Speaker 14: Just just I also, I don't know these guys. This

566
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,400
isn't planned. I just they walked in and it was.

567
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,039
Speaker 8: He then invited the two men to come up on stage.

568
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:21,159
As they walked forward, the scale of their size became

569
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,400
impossible to ignore.

570
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,079
Speaker 14: I don't want to stand up because I'm gonna look

571
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:26,199
like short.

572
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:28,079
Speaker 5: What is this?

573
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 15: This guy?

574
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,159
Speaker 5: This is ridiculous. I feel like.

575
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,559
Speaker 8: Once on stage, the comparison became even more striking. They

576
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:39,199
stood beside the people on stage, comparing height and hand size,

577
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:42,920
making everyone else look almost child sized by comparison.

578
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, where are they at?

579
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 5: I don't know.

580
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 7: Wow, that's crazy, I.

581
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:55,079
Speaker 5: Didn't But Earth is full of all sorts of sizes

582
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:59,440
of people, I guess or and so I mean it

583
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:05,440
just is. You know, people talk about Bigfoot being really big. Well, man,

584
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:08,639
those guys are big. I mean that's kind of what.

585
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,039
I don't know t all they were, But what do

586
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:15,320
you think seven foot? At least twelve almost eight foot?

587
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 7: I mean those are probably guess over seven for sure.

588
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,559
Those are big guys. He smokes.

589
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Elizabeth says, take him squatching. I say, I

590
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:27,079
have to read them because I can't post them. Maybe

591
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,840
I have to text Alex find out. I feel taking

592
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,960
it afraid. Tonight's here.

593
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 7: Should we take a quick break and bring on Ron?

594
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:41,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do a really quick break and then we're

595
00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:45,400
going to bring on Ron and uh, we will be

596
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:46,119
right back.

597
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: They came with their story. They came of their crew.

598
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: From the abolitionian hollers to the cabin's roof. The New

599
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:15,840
York Bigfoot Conference just offers more convincing proof.

600
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:22,119
Speaker 16: Sasquatch believers the skeptics.

601
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:29,119
Speaker 4: To under one big Gerna with a curious crew.

602
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:34,199
Speaker 16: Vendor booth, sashill fries.

603
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 4: Crimp, six shirts and every size big funero.

604
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,599
Speaker 16: This su.

605
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:53,119
Speaker 4: Spy just the other day, and I can't believe what

606
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:56,840
I could say. It looks like a sasquat sous. Please

607
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:10,440
big Fuz three, don the guise the man was gonna leave.

608
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,599
Speaker 5: A camera.

609
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 4: Says he heard the howl by a creek so quiet.

610
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:22,039
Speaker 7: You're an old church tower.

611
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 16: Wall and saw footprints as big as a play.

612
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:36,039
Speaker 4: She said. I froze in the woods. I couldn't escape.

613
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 16: Celebrity speakers, camera flash selling big food and looks for

614
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,000
your morning's task.

615
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:50,559
Speaker 4: Big on the ras the year they see.

616
00:41:51,840 --> 00:42:03,079
Speaker 16: Spotted him just the other day, the tree of Shadows.

617
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:09,400
Please pig foty, don't look away.

618
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: Come to the New York Bickfoot Conference and believe.

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621
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622
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623
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624
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waiting to clawed the edges of your reality.

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Speaker 7: We're back, You're on the rock side. There we go.

636
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 5: I'm glad I'm on the right side. I figured out

637
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,320
kind of mab me, what's wrong? I think I'm just

638
00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:06,159
like a guest. I think I got booted. I got

639
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,880
logged out somehow with some new update. But there was

640
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,199
a crew from the BBC here and there. These guys

641
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,719
were doing all sorts of crazy setups here, and I

642
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,920
don't know what Some got moved or required or reconfigured.

643
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:26,199
So I apologize, and I can't so you, Jeff, We've

644
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,039
got to post a ton of comments up.

645
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 7: Too much responsibility.

646
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 5: No, just do it, do it, do it.

647
00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:35,159
Speaker 7: There we go. I'm very.

648
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 5: Anyhow, I got a good crowd. And so Ron Howes.

649
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:45,000
He's more than just a bigfoot researcher. He is the

650
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:52,840
founder of Believing Yourself Fight Against the PTSD, which is

651
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,840
a platform and a Facebook page that's dedicated to raising

652
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:03,079
awareness and support for those who are battling PTSD, which

653
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:08,039
includes veterans, first responders as well as members of the

654
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:13,119
cryptid research community. Though it is larger than life character

655
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:19,199
bike biker Bigfoot or bike Bigfoot. Yeah well, it says

656
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:26,079
bike Bigfoot, biker Bigfoot. Ron brings fun, conversation and healing

657
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:29,920
to those who need it most. So he says his

658
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:35,119
journey into bigfoot research begin at a young age of thirteen,

659
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,920
where he had a life changing encounter with a massive,

660
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,360
hairy creature in the woods. And I'm going to leave

661
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,159
it there. Yeah, and we can let Ron tell his

662
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:52,239
own damn story. Me apparently I'm a guest me read it.

663
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:55,960
I like being I kind of like being a guest.

664
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,960
I don't have to do anything. Ah, So here's run.

665
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 7: Is either.

666
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: Hi guys.

667
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, Oh jeezs what do we got now? Apparently

668
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:15,519
run's vent trill a Crystalso how are we doing? Good? Yeah?

669
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,960
Just me and Ron just got off the phone and

670
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,480
we covered a lot of ground in like thirty minutes,

671
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:21,840
didn't we?

672
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 15: Yes, And I said, normally a lot longer than that.

673
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:29,679
But I got a lot of stories to tell.

674
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,119
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to it.

675
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,079
Speaker 5: Okay, where in the hell do we begin? Okay, I

676
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:38,519
know where we're gonna begin. You were thirteen, you had

677
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:42,000
an encounter. I don't know what that encounter was. I

678
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:44,679
don't think a lot of people do. Do you want

679
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,199
to share it as you can either go into every

680
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,599
little damn detailer you can do it the quick way.

681
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 15: Well, it's pretty simple. It's a quick way.

682
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 5: First.

683
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,559
Speaker 15: I just want to say happy Father's data. Everybody else, Yeah,

684
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:02,719
thank you guys for having me on. Really wonderful having

685
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,400
you guys reach out to me to come on here.

686
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,960
So going into the adventure that I started, everything that's

687
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,159
going on in my life, I was thirteen years old

688
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:19,559
on the family farm and I'm fifty two years old,

689
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,320
so thirteen years old. Back then, we had three Weeller motorcycles.

690
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,800
If you guys remember those. So I'm riding around on

691
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,760
the farm and there's like this trail that I would

692
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,840
always take, and I'm heading back into the woods, and

693
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:41,559
there's this entrance that I would always go into, and

694
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,760
at this time, this particular day, I just felt something

695
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:54,039
strange and I stopped way before I got to the

696
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:56,719
entrance of the woods, and I shut my bike off

697
00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:00,760
and I'm just looking around and I was like, oh

698
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,280
my gosh, right where I was going to be heading,

699
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,159
there is a big foot standing there.

700
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:07,159
Speaker 5: Wow.

701
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,079
Speaker 15: And thirteen years old, you know, back in these days,

702
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:16,559
I didn't know at all what I was looking at,

703
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,599
but I remember the description of it is just I

704
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,880
went back the next day and I was like getting

705
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,079
a visual of like where it was against the trees

706
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:35,119
and the branches and everything, and it was ten foot tall,

707
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:40,199
broad shoulders, no neck as we know, and the red

708
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:45,199
eyes which really stood out, and it growled at me.

709
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,800
Now it kind of feared me. You know, thirteen years old,

710
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,519
you're going to be scared and hoping that my bike

711
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:57,440
would start because it was a pool start. And I

712
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,599
got on that thing and I went back home, and

713
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,000
it took me a little bit to figure out things

714
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:09,679
I mean, you know, I was scared of the Bogeyman

715
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,159
back those days, you know, So I would ask people questions.

716
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,239
I didn't know where to turn to find out anything,

717
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:22,280
and I'd tell people about this story and they were

718
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,360
just like write me off as crazy, like, oh, you

719
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:27,880
didn't see what you saw. You saw, You're just using

720
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,119
your imagination, blah blah blah blah blah. Years going by,

721
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:34,480
I'm just telling the story, trying to figure this thing out.

722
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:39,000
I'm going in and I'm reading whatever I could in

723
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:43,079
the library, and then finally TV shows started coming about,

724
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:48,000
and right about this time, it was probably right. I

725
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:50,400
was graduated in nineteen ninety.

726
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 7: Two, and.

727
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 15: There was a news report right where I live right now,

728
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,559
in days Oftown, Pennsylvania, which is only fIF ten minutes

729
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:04,679
away from the farm I grew up on. They had

730
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,280
there was an investigation that was on the news, and

731
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:12,000
I believe it was Mary rob Jackson. I can't remember

732
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:15,559
what channel she was on, and she took the news print.

733
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:19,000
There was all kinds of investigators, police and everything. There

734
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:22,840
was sightings, there was footprints, all kinds of stuff that

735
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,199
did all kinds of analysies. The California College down the

736
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,800
road they came up with some of their technical equipment

737
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:36,280
and didn't you know, impressions and stuff like that, just

738
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,079
to get an analysis of what it was. So, you know,

739
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,119
I kept on listening to this, and everybody's like, oh,

740
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,239
it's just fake. You know, somebody was out there with

741
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,679
a footprint on the bottom of their feet. And well,

742
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,880
you know, years later, I have moved in here and

743
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:55,920
still got this childhood sighting in my mind and all

744
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:58,360
this stuff that I've been looking up trying to figure

745
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,199
out what was going on in my life and why

746
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,239
I had seen this, and is there more of them?

747
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:08,039
And you know, here I am fifteen miles from my

748
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,639
childhood sighting. They're living in these woods back here. They're

749
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,559
still here to this day because eleven years ago when

750
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:20,719
I moved here, I knew I moved into the area,

751
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:23,079
and a bunch of people that I know around here

752
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:25,440
they took me up to the top of the hill

753
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:28,840
where the investigation was where they found the footprints and

754
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,280
the trails and everything. And we're up there looking around

755
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,360
and I'm getting an idea of all the story and

756
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,239
everything a little bit better. And so one night I'm

757
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,199
sitting on my porch I heard along sustained how and

758
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,079
a couple of days later, I'm back in the woods,

759
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:49,559
back here, and I found footprints, I found shelter, I

760
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,880
found markings on trees, and I'm in there in the dark,

761
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:59,880
and I'm doing loops and stuff trying to get this

762
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,440
some kind of a response. And sure enough I got

763
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,039
a response. I had wooden knocks and.

764
00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:11,039
Speaker 5: All around. And how old were you when you started

765
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:12,039
actually doing that?

766
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:19,119
Speaker 15: Old I would say I was in my twenties.

767
00:52:19,039 --> 00:52:22,639
Speaker 5: Okay, so it's like seven, eight, nine, ten years later,

768
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:24,239
twelve years later.

769
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,119
Speaker 15: Ok Well, when I was graduating, I was about eighteen.

770
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:29,400
And then it was a couple of years after that

771
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:32,199
that I, you know, I was really getting into more

772
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,000
research out in the field. I mean, I was always

773
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:37,199
a woodsy person because growing up on the farm, I

774
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,239
was always in the woods.

775
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 5: And this is and this is in Pennsylvania, yes, okay,

776
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,159
all right, keep going.

777
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 15: Yeah, and uh and where I'm at now is still

778
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:52,679
in Pennsylvania. And so, you know, going back and forth

779
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:57,400
between these these different stories, it's all kind of tying

780
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,719
together because it's just like over the years from you know,

781
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,079
my childhood up until I graduated, you know, hearing reports

782
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:10,559
and seeing one for myself and then moving here. After

783
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,599
how many years I was up into Pennsylvania Mountains if

784
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:16,320
you know where the Apple well, not the Appalachian but

785
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,360
the Mount Davis, one of the highest points in Pennsylvania.

786
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:25,000
I had gone up there for probably fifteen years, camping

787
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:27,519
up there with a bunch of people and fishing and

788
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,480
you know the boys, you know, there would be his

789
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:33,880
fathers and son trip basically, and the boys would come

790
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,239
over to me and they're like, hey, you know, can

791
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,639
we go out squatching? Because they knew I was into

792
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,800
this real big and I was like, yeah, sure, let's

793
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:44,079
jump in a truck. We went out logging trails, We

794
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:49,320
would go do stuff. Things would happen, and you know,

795
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,119
it's just over that time period, just like more and

796
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,679
more information's coming at me, more and more things that

797
00:53:56,159 --> 00:54:00,400
I'm learning from nature. And that's something that I use

798
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,400
whenever i'm speaking, is you know, going into nature is

799
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,920
one of the most wonderful places to heal, and that's

800
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,400
why I love being there. But you know, going back

801
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,400
to this, you know, I'm back there trying to find

802
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:20,679
where this howl came from. And you know, I'm standing

803
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,199
back there and I'm doing these whoops, trying to get

804
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,360
a response, I'm getting knocks, And after a while it

805
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:32,760
was like, okay, I'm done with you, and it started stomping.

806
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:37,000
But I'll tell you what, the first time that ever

807
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:41,840
happened to me, you could feel it, the vibration in

808
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,280
the air when it just stomped. Just the size of

809
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,320
these things and the power that they have, it's just amazing.

810
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,519
And just learning some of the things that we learned

811
00:54:55,559 --> 00:55:02,119
from what we have done, investigations, information coming from other people,

812
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,840
from reports and stuff like that. Just being able to

813
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,880
learn more about them. I mean, you know, one hundred percent,

814
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:13,239
we don't know. We really don't know what these things are,

815
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,760
why they're here, what they want from us. But just

816
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,440
being able to learn the tip of the iceberg of

817
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:26,800
what we have. It's just been an amazing journey because

818
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,480
if you look at the whole Bigfoot world, it has

819
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,960
grown so much that there are so many people out

820
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,480
there that are that are coming forward with their sightings.

821
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,760
There's more and more TV shows, there's a whole collaboration.

822
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:49,440
It's like a community. And what I tell people is

823
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:53,679
it's just like how my life has changed is because

824
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,679
of Bigfoot, Like I've gotten to know so many people.

825
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:04,400
I've became friends slash family to people, and just the

826
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,840
amount of knowledge that I've learned from everybody else.

827
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:12,079
Speaker 5: What if I'm just I'm just throwing out a diarrhye

828
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:17,199
of thought here. What if Bigfoot is to only purposes

829
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:22,440
to bring people together? I have actually never thought of that.

830
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:28,519
Speaker 15: I have expressed that thought. I wholly believe that this

831
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:35,280
entity we can call because there's so many factors out

832
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:40,679
there that people believe that they're interdimensional, they're they're alien,

833
00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:45,760
they're you know, their flesh and blood, like you know,

834
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:49,159
we don't know one hundred percent. But the way I

835
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,960
look at it is, look at the human race. We

836
00:56:53,199 --> 00:56:57,840
have multiple nationalities, we have multiple creeds, we have multiple

837
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,280
religions all over the world. Not one of us is

838
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,000
the same. So if you could go and look at

839
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:08,239
their world and say, just like you and I talked

840
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:13,159
about earlier, like there are good people and they're bad people,

841
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:16,480
you know, And I don't necessarily call bad people bad.

842
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:18,599
It's just that they've done something wrong in their life

843
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,119
and they've been stigmatizedly called bad. But you know, there's

844
00:57:23,199 --> 00:57:27,159
been the question asked like, Okay, are these bigfoots or

845
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:34,159
sasquatch a bad entity or a bad creature or monster

846
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:35,079
so to speak.

847
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 5: We don't know.

848
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,679
Speaker 15: But the interactions that we've had, a lot of them

849
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,599
have been good, and there's only been a handful of bad.

850
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:50,800
I mean, look at the Russian YETI story. I mean

851
00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:54,719
that they're trying to write that off. But you know,

852
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,880
there are some instances where people say that all that

853
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:02,000
things came after me, or it's trying to keep you

854
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:06,239
away from something number one that they don't want you

855
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,400
to find because they want to be left alone. Another thing,

856
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,480
I've heard so many stories where humans been in distress,

857
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:18,639
being lost in the woods. The bigfoots have guided them out.

858
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:23,039
They use a little bit of a fear factor to

859
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,440
get them to get moving, but you know it's still

860
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,760
they're guiding them. Right.

861
00:58:32,039 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 5: Well, when I mentioned that, right this thought of maybe

862
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:42,079
the purpose is so we meet certain other people, So

863
00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:45,360
they show their self to two people. Those people then

864
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:49,000
end up meeting. And it was amazing all the comments

865
00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:54,000
of people going that's plausible. It was just amazed at

866
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,920
the reaction because it was just to me a diarrhea thought.

867
00:58:57,079 --> 00:59:00,199
You know, but the world works in weird way, But

868
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,440
would you thought you hadn't even thought about that at

869
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:04,920
one time.

870
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:10,199
Speaker 15: Yes, absolutely, because just looking at my journey in the

871
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:16,039
last five years, ever since I became public, it's changed

872
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:19,639
my world. The amount of like I said, I'll say

873
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:22,400
it again, it's just the amount of people that I

874
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:28,039
have grown to know is just amazing. And everybody's been

875
00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:32,840
so wonderful. I mean, you have anywhere you go, you're

876
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,440
gonna have certain amount of people that you're gonna have

877
00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:38,920
trouble with. But for the for the most part of it,

878
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,239
it's just been a wonderful thing being able to meet people.

879
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,000
I mean, if it wasn't for Bigfoot, I wouldn't have

880
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:45,599
met my wife.

881
00:59:47,159 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 7: That's great, you know, Yeah, there you go, there you go.

882
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 5: There's a great example. Now it's kind of weird if

883
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:54,599
you think about it.

884
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,119
Speaker 7: I've met some great people too.

885
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 5: And why I never that never occurred to me because

886
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,280
I have pondered over that, why do some of us

887
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,079
see these things and others don't. And also I was

888
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:12,079
gonna mention alex Is in my studio at this very moment,

889
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,320
getting me all back to normal, and I'm watching him

890
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,880
work and the stuff he's pushing more buttons. I don't

891
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,320
know if he's done it. Let's look here, maybe me.

892
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,599
Speaker 7: He disappeared. We had a question, Uh me back up here,

893
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,760
David ellis up? There was Dave. There's Dug back just

894
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,719
staying on here. I'm sorry, not not really.

895
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 5: Some is all messed up anyhow, Hang on here, hold on,

896
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:52,199
so you just keep going. I can hear y'all.

897
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 7: I can. Yeah, there was a question. Uh, there we go.

898
01:00:56,039 --> 01:00:57,760
So this howl that you heard, was it like the

899
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,679
Ohio hall or something else? He familiar with the Ohio.

900
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 15: Yeah, I am familiar with it, but no, it was

901
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:09,119
it was more not of a howl, but more of

902
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:14,639
a whoo, kind of a long sustained how I know,

903
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,679
the Ohio hows are are a little bit of a

904
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,320
different tone difference. But again, you just look at the

905
01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:25,559
different names that we have all over the country and

906
01:01:25,559 --> 01:01:29,440
all over the world for the different versions of Big Play.

907
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:32,679
Their their voices are gonna be same, just like our

908
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,800
voices are different, you know, or they're not going to

909
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,119
be the same. So, I mean, you would imagine, you know,

910
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:40,559
if they're they're gonna make a howl, you know, they're

911
01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:43,239
not gonna sound the same. They have different vocal tones.

912
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 5: You know.

913
01:01:45,039 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 15: There was research done that. It was on one of

914
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,440
the documentaries that I just watched not long ago where

915
01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:53,559
they found that there was two tones in their voice.

916
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:58,639
There was an instance where I was out doing research

917
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,719
and we had a knock in an area where we

918
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,320
were just at and we were around the other side

919
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,199
of a lake and we heard this knock. So I

920
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,079
was like, Okay, I'm going to head back to that

921
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,880
to check check it out to see if there's any

922
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,719
evidence of it being there. Well, and I They followed behind,

923
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,320
but I was a lot quicker because I wanted to

924
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,000
get there to see if I can catch the creature.

925
01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:27,559
Right by the time I got there, there was a

926
01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:32,239
knock right where they were just at, and I was like, guys,

927
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,840
should just stay there. But I investigated the area where

928
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:39,039
I believe that it came from. I checked all the

929
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:43,519
trees around, there was no damage to the bark. So

930
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,800
it's a theory that I had had put in. Knowing

931
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:53,480
that these bigfoots have two vocals in one at one time,

932
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,320
what's to say that they're not making that knock noise

933
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:57,960
with their mouth.

934
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,199
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think that's pretty plausible too, because it's the

935
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,599
thing I've talked about a lot is. I mean, imagine

936
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:07,480
the size of that chess cavity. That chess cavity can project.

937
01:03:08,159 --> 01:03:10,320
You know, not only the size of the chess cavity,

938
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,599
but the length of the vocal corts. Animal that big

939
01:03:12,719 --> 01:03:15,320
is going to have humongous vocal cords. What can generate

940
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:20,079
sounds that we can't replicate. So yeah, it's pretty cool.

941
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,039
Speaker 15: The fact that they can mimic, which you know, I've

942
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,920
I've just recently witnessed. I mean it's been multiple times,

943
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,239
but just recently I was out in an investigation with

944
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:36,639
Jason Kinzie and we we were we were in the

945
01:03:36,719 --> 01:03:41,239
back hills of West Virginia, and we heard what we

946
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:46,719
thought were owls, but then it turned totally into chimpanzee

947
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:51,119
like sounds. And then there was another instance where we

948
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:57,760
heard what sounded like a coyote but more human like,

949
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,360
and then it broke out into a and of actual coyotes.

950
01:04:04,239 --> 01:04:08,000
It's just amazing how they can just make those changes.

951
01:04:08,519 --> 01:04:11,840
But you have to be careful too, because there's also

952
01:04:12,039 --> 01:04:15,519
dark entities in these woods that you gotta be careful

953
01:04:15,559 --> 01:04:19,559
that you're not calling out, because I've had things mimic

954
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:25,679
what you could misconstrue as a Bigfoot, but there's no

955
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,840
trace of any Bigfoot being around.

956
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 5: Well, let's talk about that for a minute of ron

957
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,440
once again. I haven't thought about that one either. So

958
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:43,199
you're thinking there are some kind of like some kind

959
01:04:43,239 --> 01:04:46,480
of energy beans. I mean, what category would you put

960
01:04:46,519 --> 01:04:51,000
these non bigfoot entities that mimic Bigfoot in the forest?

961
01:04:51,519 --> 01:04:53,239
What would you call them? Uh?

962
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 15: Well, they're demonic uh negative energies.

963
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,559
Speaker 5: But is there a name for him? Is there a

964
01:05:00,519 --> 01:05:05,639
Do you have a nickname for them? I don't, Jeff

965
01:05:05,719 --> 01:05:06,599
think of one real quick?

966
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 8: Is it?

967
01:05:09,719 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 15: My My wife nicknamed them bubbles because we don't like

968
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:17,320
to say the actual name of what they are because

969
01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:22,280
calling attention to them, and you don't want to call

970
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,920
attention to them. So it's basically you're recognizing them. Just

971
01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:27,320
me talking about it right now.

972
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:31,239
Speaker 5: Okay, But these are these are like more like trickster

973
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:37,760
entities that are mimicking Bigfoot? And are those the ones

974
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:43,480
that maybe would account for the the ones that don't

975
01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:50,199
leave footprints, take apples without being photographed, leavy pound on

976
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,519
houses without being seen or without in other words, without

977
01:05:54,719 --> 01:05:58,280
being recorded, like Adam had here a couple of weeks ago.

978
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 15: But we're also still looking at the idea that Bigfoot's

979
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:09,599
possibly interdimensional and spiritual, and I can contest to the

980
01:06:09,639 --> 01:06:13,760
spiritual part of it because I was in the mountains. Again,

981
01:06:14,039 --> 01:06:17,400
I do a lot of research in Mount Davis. I

982
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:21,239
was in this one area camping and we were cooking dinner,

983
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:26,280
and I just called out to the spirits, the Bigfoot spirits,

984
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,239
and I welcomed them to dinner. And I had a

985
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:34,480
couple Native American sensitives with me, and all of a sudden,

986
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:37,920
there's five ten foot tall bigfoot standing in front of me.

987
01:06:38,239 --> 01:06:40,679
But my eyes were wide open. I could see the

988
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,039
woods and everything, but they were standing there and I

989
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:45,800
turned and looked at them and I says, am I

990
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,440
seeing what I think I'm seeing? And they said, if

991
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,079
you're seeing five ten foot tall bigfoots.

992
01:06:50,679 --> 01:06:52,559
Speaker 7: Yes, wow.

993
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 15: So there is definitely an aspect of spiritual side of

994
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:02,719
Bigfoot and though, and that's what I call out to

995
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:08,320
whenever I go into nature. So there's a recent documentary

996
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,920
that just came out with Jason Kinsey searching for Sasquatch

997
01:07:12,119 --> 01:07:15,559
that I did with him. It's called The Mothman, and

998
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,000
in there I describe something that a Native American taught

999
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:28,480
me it's grounding. And by grounding is you're just you're

1000
01:07:28,719 --> 01:07:32,079
entering the woods. Before you enter, you put your feet

1001
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,199
out of your shoes onto the ground and just take

1002
01:07:36,239 --> 01:07:39,920
in nature. Well, I have neuropathy, so that's not happening

1003
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,880
for me. So what I do is I hold on

1004
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:45,639
to a tree and I just I feel the energy

1005
01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:48,639
from the tree, and I just I welcome nature and

1006
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,920
I let it know that I'm there for no harm,

1007
01:07:53,559 --> 01:08:00,519
and that just giving positive vibes basically. And there's times

1008
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:03,440
where I've been in situations where I've felt very very

1009
01:08:03,559 --> 01:08:08,519
uneasy because I'm getting too close to something. I actually

1010
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:13,719
i was playing peek a boo with a juvenile and

1011
01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:17,760
whenever I called out and said that I come in peace.

1012
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,640
I know that's kind of cliche, that's a kind of

1013
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:25,520
a UFO thing, but I come in peace. I'm here

1014
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,279
to welcome with you. If you feel, you know, comfortable

1015
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:32,359
enough to come forward to meet me, I am open

1016
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,479
to that. And I just keep repeating I am not

1017
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,000
here for any harm. You know a lot of people

1018
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,119
will ask me like, well, you know there's other things

1019
01:08:42,159 --> 01:08:45,840
out in the woods like bears and tigers and tigers,

1020
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,840
but cougars and wolves and stuff like that. Don't you

1021
01:08:50,039 --> 01:08:53,880
carry a gun? I'm like, no, I don't, because a

1022
01:08:53,960 --> 01:09:00,199
firearm on your side means harm. I mean, they can

1023
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:05,279
smell the gunpowder. So yes, I do carry a couple

1024
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:07,640
of knives with me. It's it is for safety.

1025
01:09:08,279 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 8: You know.

1026
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,159
Speaker 15: You can get into situation where you fall in something

1027
01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:13,479
and you have to cut your way out or whatever. Uh,

1028
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,920
but I don't. I don't carry a weapon and people

1029
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,560
call me crazy for that, but I just I project

1030
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,760
the peace. I have not had one problem yet where

1031
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,800
I've run into a situation where I'm being attacked by something.

1032
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, you had mentioned that you can smell gun

1033
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,840
powder cose that's unverified, but it's a theory.

1034
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:38,399
Speaker 15: It is a theory, yes, yes, right right right, you know,

1035
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,560
it's it's a lot of information that I've gotten from

1036
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,680
a few different Native Americans that they you know, they

1037
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,279
they tell me some of the old ways and stuff

1038
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:53,119
like that. That's one thing that I really strive to

1039
01:09:53,239 --> 01:09:57,119
learn is from the Native Americans because of the connection

1040
01:09:57,239 --> 01:10:01,520
that they once had with the sass Watch. So it's

1041
01:10:02,319 --> 01:10:07,079
you know, and being that I reach out to veterans

1042
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,520
and you know, working with everybody with PTSDs, like I've

1043
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,279
always been about the code talkers. I know, we just

1044
01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:17,800
lost our last code talker not too long ago. I

1045
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,439
think he was like one hundred and two or something.

1046
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,199
But you know, it's just, you know, Native Americans have

1047
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,159
been a long time reach for everything in this country.

1048
01:10:30,039 --> 01:10:34,720
So that's where I reach too when I have certain

1049
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,880
questions that I want to get answered. And with that

1050
01:10:39,079 --> 01:10:43,119
same thing in the Mount Davis area where I would

1051
01:10:43,159 --> 01:10:45,960
go hiking with the boys to take them out and

1052
01:10:46,079 --> 01:10:50,319
go bigfooting, we were in an area where we had

1053
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,119
talked to the locals and they says, oh, yeah, if

1054
01:10:53,159 --> 01:10:55,600
you go off this one trail, you're going to walk

1055
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,079
into an area that you're going to feel uneasy, like

1056
01:10:58,119 --> 01:11:01,560
you're getting pushed out. And it's because of the spirits

1057
01:11:02,319 --> 01:11:05,920
of the Native Americans and the spirits of the bigfoots

1058
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,199
and stuff will are protecting this area. And I said, okay, well,

1059
01:11:11,119 --> 01:11:13,399
what's the reasoning behind that? And they said, oh, because

1060
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:18,279
there's burial grounds up there. So on our hike, little

1061
01:11:18,319 --> 01:11:20,359
did I know, we walked right into the middle of it.

1062
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,239
Because Mother Nature basically put a canopy over this so

1063
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,000
it would be hidden. And let me tell you it

1064
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:29,520
was really interesting to be able to see something like

1065
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:34,640
this in the wild. You hear about it. I've been

1066
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,600
to places where you can see them publicly, but never

1067
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,399
someplace out in the woods where you're investigating. And there

1068
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:47,640
was probably thirty of them. Now I've introduced the possibility

1069
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:52,039
of why some of the Indian burial grounds that I've

1070
01:11:52,119 --> 01:11:56,920
seen are so large. While that also steps over into

1071
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,880
where we haven't found any remains of the bigfoots. Well,

1072
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,079
what a theory that I have is take the size

1073
01:12:06,119 --> 01:12:10,399
of the burial mounds, take the history between the Native

1074
01:12:10,399 --> 01:12:14,560
Americans and the Bigfoots, and take the knowledge that we

1075
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,680
haven't found any remains. I'm thinking it's possible that they

1076
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,920
were buried together to hide the remains because it's such

1077
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,640
a sacred area, you know, it's it's it's a theory.

1078
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 7: Interesting sure, less the idea.

1079
01:12:35,239 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 15: Of using maybe light or to examine the burial grounds.

1080
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,479
There's no other way to find out. I mean, they

1081
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,840
are they are protected. You know, you don't want to

1082
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,319
just create a Native American barrier grounds just to be

1083
01:12:52,359 --> 01:12:54,880
able to find the evidence of Bigfoot or not find

1084
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,439
the evidence of Bigfoot. But it's it is a theory

1085
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,880
that I will looked at because I walked it off

1086
01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:04,119
and again, I'm six foot two, and I look at

1087
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:08,119
the fact that Native Americans weren't so tall back in

1088
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:12,119
the time that they did these burial grounds, So why

1089
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:15,880
would the barer grounds be so big? They oversized me

1090
01:13:17,159 --> 01:13:17,800
at my height.

1091
01:13:19,279 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 7: So I don't know.

1092
01:13:21,119 --> 01:13:24,279
Speaker 15: It's it's very interesting thought that I had about that.

1093
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,680
And I mean, maybe one day I'll be able to

1094
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:31,000
examine it, you know, with without repercussions. You know, i'd

1095
01:13:31,039 --> 01:13:33,760
get permission from somebody to be able to do a

1096
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,920
lot to our examination on these Maybe that'll give us

1097
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:42,279
some truths. Yeah, there are cavess all around that area

1098
01:13:42,319 --> 01:13:46,479
as well, so you know, it's very very possible that

1099
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:51,239
what we saw is living in these cave systems.

1100
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 7: We did.

1101
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,359
Speaker 15: We did have one surrounding us while we were in

1102
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,880
the truck. At one point, the boys got a little

1103
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,640
bit scared and they jump back in the truck. That's like,

1104
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,840
I just saw something very big. But it's it's been

1105
01:14:07,239 --> 01:14:10,199
such a passion of mine to be able to go

1106
01:14:10,359 --> 01:14:14,840
out there and learn more about these creatures. And it's

1107
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,239
been such a passion to be able to help people,

1108
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,439
you know, just like we were saying about how Bigfoot

1109
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:22,399
brings people together.

1110
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 5: That is that is one.

1111
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:32,279
Speaker 15: Uh an idea that I love using that because it

1112
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:37,520
is truly working that way. Just like I said that

1113
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,840
I I you know, I worked with Jason Kinsey on

1114
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:44,560
this documentary. Uh he pulled me in because we were

1115
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:49,279
supposed to do an event together. Things happened and we

1116
01:14:49,359 --> 01:14:53,800
weren't able to do it. But once I met my

1117
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:59,199
now wife, we started planning a wedding and we were

1118
01:14:59,239 --> 01:15:01,199
doing it in an inch interesting way because we were

1119
01:15:01,279 --> 01:15:07,960
including cryptids in our wedding. And being that I'm biker Bigfoot,

1120
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:11,560
I do goofy things, and I'll go up to anybody

1121
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,520
and just try to make them laugh. It's kind of

1122
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:18,199
like my clown costume. I looked at it that way

1123
01:15:18,319 --> 01:15:22,600
for the longest time, and uh, yep, there it is.

1124
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,560
I I looked at it as my clown costume because

1125
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,239
it was basically my mask to be able to be

1126
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,319
a different person. It's kind of like an alter ego. Sure,

1127
01:15:37,319 --> 01:15:41,560
And whenever I came up with the idea of doing this,

1128
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,359
there was an event, my very first event that I

1129
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,199
ever showed up to, and there's me and my wife

1130
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:47,680
and my dog.

1131
01:15:48,199 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 7: I love it.

1132
01:15:50,199 --> 01:15:54,199
Speaker 15: Yeah, we were visiting her mom and dad and we

1133
01:15:54,359 --> 01:15:59,840
decided to surprise them with our costume story behind that

1134
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:03,920
one here in a minute. So whenever we started planning

1135
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,359
the wedding, Jason contacted me and he says, hey, how

1136
01:16:06,399 --> 01:16:08,880
about I come video your wedding. I was like absolutely,

1137
01:16:09,279 --> 01:16:11,439
So it just went from there. Yeah, a little bit

1138
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:18,279
of a big bike or Bigfoot GQ pictures. That's awesome, So,

1139
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,600
you know, it just it all went from there. So

1140
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,640
Jason and I went out on some adventures and he's like, hey,

1141
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,640
you know, we're I'm going to film this documentary with

1142
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,159
you in it, and if you go find it, it's

1143
01:16:28,199 --> 01:16:32,000
on YouTube right now, and if you go find it,

1144
01:16:32,359 --> 01:16:35,000
it tells the story about what I do with bike

1145
01:16:35,079 --> 01:16:38,760
or Bigfoot. What I you know, why I use it.

1146
01:16:39,359 --> 01:16:41,720
I dressed up in this costume to go to an

1147
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,880
event because it was the very first event that I

1148
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,359
ever went to. It was maybe ten minutes away from

1149
01:16:46,359 --> 01:16:48,720
where I live, and I thought, what the heck, you know,

1150
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,560
just throw the costume on, jump on the bike. I

1151
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,439
was a Legion rider at the time. I threw my

1152
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,920
vest on, I threw my chaps on, so my costume

1153
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,359
wouldn't get bird on the bike, and I threw the

1154
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,960
helmet on, and biker Bigfoot was born. And that's how

1155
01:17:03,039 --> 01:17:05,199
I looked when I rode into the place. Now, mind you,

1156
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,720
I gave them hints that there was gonna be a

1157
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,039
big Foot showing up. I just didn't tell them that

1158
01:17:12,119 --> 01:17:14,800
there was gonna be a biker big showing up. So

1159
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,600
I don't know if you know who less Odell is.

1160
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,359
He's one of the leading researchers in West Virginia. He

1161
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,880
was doing his presentation when I rolled in, and this

1162
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:30,520
isn't an outside park in hill Or, Pennsylvania, and I

1163
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,439
come run. I came right around to Ben and rolled

1164
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,520
right up to the area. Show shut down. Everybody come

1165
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,760
running over wanting pictures. Less O'Dell comes over and he's like, man,

1166
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,680
I had to meet this guy, this crazy guy coming

1167
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,239
in on a bike in a costume. I literally rode

1168
01:17:47,319 --> 01:17:52,680
from my house with the costume one just so it's

1169
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,760
you know, right there. It was right from the start.

1170
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,000
When I jumped on that bike and took down off

1171
01:17:58,119 --> 01:18:01,840
down the road, it was, you know, magic was happening.

1172
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,399
Because I just wanted to get people's reactions. And it

1173
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:10,279
is really a positive fun thing. I purposely did not

1174
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,399
go straight to the show. I went to the local

1175
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,680
cast station and pretended to get gas in my bike.

1176
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,880
Just people's reactions and so yeah, but I showed up

1177
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,680
the show lesson, I met, you know, the the Fat

1178
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:28,720
County Researchers organization. I know I'm saying that wrong. I'm sorry.

1179
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,479
I can't ever say it right because it's such a

1180
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,279
long title. But you know, that was the first time

1181
01:18:35,359 --> 01:18:40,680
I got into an actual show by accident. Because I

1182
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,600
did this, and it went from there. I just kept

1183
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,680
on going to shows and kept on going to shows,

1184
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,680
and the next thing, you know, I don't know if

1185
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,720
you knew who Fred Saluta was. He was actually the

1186
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,119
founder of that group and he was also in move On.

1187
01:18:57,399 --> 01:18:59,479
He just recently passed away this past fall.

1188
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:00,319
Speaker 4: Uh.

1189
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 15: He was kind of a mentor for me, and once

1190
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,159
he learned that I had a cause behind my costume,

1191
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,399
He's like, get up there. I want to hear this story.

1192
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,439
I want everybody to hear the story. So the next

1193
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,640
event came up available. It was in sutt In, West Virginia,

1194
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,439
and less O'Dell contacts me and he says, hey, why

1195
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,079
don't you come down down here? And tell your story

1196
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,960
about your PTSD and stuff and bring bring your bike

1197
01:19:29,039 --> 01:19:32,680
or Bigfoot thing. So he yeah, I packed up the

1198
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,159
bike and I rode down down to West Virginia and

1199
01:19:35,399 --> 01:19:40,239
rolled into the show and got smiles and pictures and

1200
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:46,640
stories and it's just it's been amazing. Oh yeah, I

1201
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:51,600
went the Fallout this year. They brought Fallout Jamboree to

1202
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,840
West Virginia because if you've ever played the video game,

1203
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,520
they have four West Virginia clip cryptids in it. And

1204
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:04,439
that that's Davy for the TV show Lar I had

1205
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:08,000
to meet him. He's one of my favorites from the show.

1206
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,600
But he absolutely loved Bike r Bigfoot, as you can

1207
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,079
see an expression on his face.

1208
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 7: That's fun.

1209
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 15: But I rolled into that crowd the same way I

1210
01:20:18,079 --> 01:20:22,399
did to the Bigfoot show, and the media was inside

1211
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,319
and come running out the door to come get pictures

1212
01:20:25,399 --> 01:20:29,319
and videos of me. It's like it's just turned into

1213
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:34,560
a phenomenon. And there's Kenny. He's the curator of it

1214
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:40,520
from Nevada and he plays a role too. He's the

1215
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,399
doctor from the TV show. That's his character that he's

1216
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:48,039
playing that day. But I know I'm gonna be working

1217
01:20:48,079 --> 01:20:51,800
with them again. I already contact him about getting back

1218
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,880
in it and again. But they're going to be back

1219
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,319
in West Virginia in two years, in twenty twenty eight.

1220
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:04,399
But something else too. Where where did where did Doug go?

1221
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,119
Speaker 7: Doug? I think Doug's having some tech issues he had

1222
01:21:07,239 --> 01:21:12,199
he uh he related again. But let's talk about I'd

1223
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:13,720
like to hear. So, how did you get involved with

1224
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,600
the PTSD stuff?

1225
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:22,119
Speaker 15: Okay, so throughout my life obviously, you know, thirteen years old,

1226
01:21:22,359 --> 01:21:25,239
I'm getting ridiculed talking about this creature that I saw.

1227
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,560
And uh, it just you know, I was being bullied

1228
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:34,760
in school. It's just multiple things over my life happened,

1229
01:21:35,319 --> 01:21:39,520
and it just caused me a lot of anxiety. And

1230
01:21:40,079 --> 01:21:42,279
I went, I talked to a doctor and this and that,

1231
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,600
and they they they worked with me and stuff, and

1232
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,359
you know, found out that I had an anxiety disorder,

1233
01:21:48,399 --> 01:21:52,640
which is a form of PTSD, and just it just

1234
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,479
kept going, keeps going, keeps going. Just like throughout life.

1235
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:01,039
Multiple things happened, relationships, failing, just other things happen in life. Jobs,

1236
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,079
I was in the military for a short period of time.

1237
01:22:04,199 --> 01:22:08,880
That created an issue just in my mind, thinking that

1238
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:16,960
I failed, you know, and whenever I went to go

1239
01:22:17,159 --> 01:22:22,239
join the Legion. You know, if you know, the Legion

1240
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:27,199
will go to follow members of the military to their funerals. Well,

1241
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,399
I ended up being in different positions of command in there.

1242
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:38,079
And when I started seeing these these funerals where in

1243
01:22:38,199 --> 01:22:40,920
one year I had four suicides.

1244
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 5: I was like, my gosh.

1245
01:22:43,039 --> 01:22:45,039
Speaker 15: You know, whenever I heard the story about this one

1246
01:22:45,159 --> 01:22:47,000
boy that we went to he was only twenty two

1247
01:22:47,079 --> 01:22:51,760
years old that committed suicide. He had everything going for him.

1248
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,720
But what people don't think about is what's going on

1249
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,479
in somebody's head that they will take it to the

1250
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,000
limit and make that decision to end their life. And

1251
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:10,880
it is very hard if you have stressors that's pushing

1252
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,760
you into negative part of your mind, and then you

1253
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:19,279
have no support system and you have people out there

1254
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:24,600
just doing this jab basically verbally jabbing at you, it

1255
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,560
could really push you over the edge. So, you know,

1256
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,840
four funerals for suicide. And then I went to Pittsburgh

1257
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,279
to get a tattoo and a young soldier sits down

1258
01:23:35,319 --> 01:23:37,399
next to me to get his work done too, And

1259
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:41,720
I had already heard his story. The man was missing

1260
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,600
one finger off of his hand. Now, why was that

1261
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:49,279
because he was out on the battlefield and they were

1262
01:23:49,359 --> 01:23:52,399
going from one area to another, and they, you know,

1263
01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:55,680
they're all lined up going through all of his brothers

1264
01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:00,399
in the other trucks. RPG came in and took out

1265
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,000
the whole platoon except for him. Now they call that

1266
01:24:04,159 --> 01:24:07,199
survivor syndrome. You're living with the guilt of the loss

1267
01:24:07,239 --> 01:24:10,960
of your fellow brothers and why am I still here?

1268
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 13: You know?

1269
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 15: And then of course you're missing that digit you're looking

1270
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,760
at your hand every day. It's a reminder. Two weeks

1271
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,640
after I met this young man, he committed suicide.

1272
01:24:22,319 --> 01:24:22,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1273
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,359
Speaker 15: I was like, man, if only I could have talked

1274
01:24:25,399 --> 01:24:28,439
to him, you know, and and I and I beat

1275
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,039
myself up for it for a little while.

1276
01:24:30,279 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna I was just gonna mention Ron,

1277
01:24:33,399 --> 01:24:36,560
we're gonna get flagged and the episode removed. If that

1278
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,439
word is used too many times, Oh what the words

1279
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:45,159
with the s just not allowed to say it?

1280
01:24:45,359 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you think about self harm? Yeah we

1281
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,199
got to be self harm.

1282
01:24:51,159 --> 01:24:53,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, so just find another word.

1283
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:58,560
Speaker 15: Okay, Well I'm done saying it anyways. So just just

1284
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:04,199
knowing that people have these thoughts, I had to make

1285
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:08,880
a change. I wanted to make a big change. I

1286
01:25:09,039 --> 01:25:11,079
know that there's other groups out there that were doing

1287
01:25:11,159 --> 01:25:14,600
something about it, but I thought, you know, what would

1288
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,600
be the harm of having one more person? And that's

1289
01:25:18,079 --> 01:25:21,760
whenever I took my character and I took my commands,

1290
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:27,840
and I took everything that I learned and I put

1291
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,800
it together and I started this mission, the Believe in

1292
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:38,199
Yourself right against PTSD, and so I just I just

1293
01:25:38,239 --> 01:25:41,039
started using that. I started using my character to be

1294
01:25:41,079 --> 01:25:43,800
able to get out there and get that awareness to people.

1295
01:25:44,359 --> 01:25:49,119
And it was really resonating with people. I did have

1296
01:25:49,279 --> 01:25:52,880
the questions like, well, why this this and this put together?

1297
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,439
I said, well, first of all, why not. I'm a

1298
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,640
unique individual. I don't do things the normal way. So

1299
01:26:00,119 --> 01:26:02,479
just like I brought something together that was unique and

1300
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:07,279
it really resonated. And I have been pulled all over

1301
01:26:07,399 --> 01:26:11,520
the place to do events because of how I do things,

1302
01:26:12,399 --> 01:26:16,159
and and people love whenever I'm in costume. Like I

1303
01:26:16,239 --> 01:26:19,039
had mentioned earlier, it's kind of like it's my clown costume.

1304
01:26:19,119 --> 01:26:21,640
It was able to get me to open up and

1305
01:26:22,079 --> 01:26:25,399
be the person that I know I can be, and

1306
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,720
and then it started to just be such regular thing

1307
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,439
that once it took the costume off. I'm still a goofball,

1308
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,399
so you know, and it's people love getting pictures with

1309
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,840
me because I do crazy things in the pictures just

1310
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:38,920
to get everybody to laugh.

1311
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 5: And uh, well let me interrupt you, Ron, Yeah, Ron,

1312
01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:48,239
just for a second here. So you have people that

1313
01:26:48,399 --> 01:26:50,640
come up to you, both they could be you know,

1314
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,920
it may not have anything to do with cryptids, but

1315
01:26:54,079 --> 01:26:57,640
if you had many crypti people that have had encounters

1316
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,720
that have approached you and I have talked to you

1317
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:01,800
and you've gotten them help.

1318
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 15: Yes, yeah, So Gwynolne Purcell's in one instance, she started

1319
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:18,960
off in paranormal world and now she's in the Bigfoot works.

1320
01:27:19,359 --> 01:27:23,119
This is a perfect example of you're in one field

1321
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,479
studying one thing, and then something else happens and you

1322
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,640
end up in another part of it. Yeah, and again

1323
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:35,520
you know there's Bigfoot bringing people together when you're out.

1324
01:27:37,159 --> 01:27:40,520
You don't even have to be out doing research, just

1325
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:45,520
being out and hunters. There's been many times that I've

1326
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,760
had people tell me that they were out hunting. They're

1327
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,600
sitting in a tree stand and something strange goes walking

1328
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,520
by that they plain, nine times out of ten it's bigfoot.

1329
01:27:55,800 --> 01:28:00,720
But there's been other things like spectrums orbs. When I

1330
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:07,000
say spectrums, I mean paranormal And it's not out of

1331
01:28:07,039 --> 01:28:11,079
the realm for somebody to see different things when you're

1332
01:28:11,119 --> 01:28:15,600
out looking for other things, right, you know, I haven't

1333
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:19,520
witnessed it yet, but you know there's like the tall man,

1334
01:28:20,119 --> 01:28:24,560
the what's oh, jeez, I can't think the name of it,

1335
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,720
the white human looking thing that always crawls on all fours,

1336
01:28:30,159 --> 01:28:34,239
the rake, yes, the rake. I mean, people have witnessed

1337
01:28:34,279 --> 01:28:39,600
these things. What are the shape shifters? They look like

1338
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,119
humans and they're calling out. This is another thing that

1339
01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:46,640
I was saying about hearing things that are mimicking things.

1340
01:28:47,039 --> 01:28:49,199
They'd call out your name, Yeah, I've heard my name

1341
01:28:49,279 --> 01:28:53,159
in the woods. It's it's really weird whenever there's nobody

1342
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:57,039
else around. But you don't answer that call because you

1343
01:28:57,199 --> 01:29:01,920
never know what it is. But you know, people bringing

1344
01:29:02,119 --> 01:29:07,399
to me these stories, they're telling me that I don't

1345
01:29:07,399 --> 01:29:11,720
want to go back simply because they had this encounter

1346
01:29:12,039 --> 01:29:17,279
or this sighting. It fears them. Nothing happened, but they

1347
01:29:17,399 --> 01:29:22,000
still feel the fear of maybe that things still there.

1348
01:29:23,119 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 5: Because just having somebody to talk to or making a

1349
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:28,960
new friend to help people.

1350
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 15: Oh, absolutely for my personal example, for me to be

1351
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:41,199
able to do what I'm doing is helping me because

1352
01:29:41,239 --> 01:29:44,960
I'm able to express what has happened to me, share

1353
01:29:45,039 --> 01:29:47,600
my story with people and get them to open up.

1354
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:53,199
That is just a world of change for me. Let

1355
01:29:53,279 --> 01:29:55,600
alone the people that are coming to me and talking

1356
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:56,520
to me about things.

1357
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 5: Right, can we what's what I want to do? Roun

1358
01:30:00,039 --> 01:30:03,640
back up a little bit, Let's talk about why a

1359
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:10,359
bigfoot encounter would even cause PTSD. They didn't get attacked

1360
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:14,960
probably in most cases. Is it the the utter destruction

1361
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:18,520
of your worldview instantly? Is that what doesn't do you

1362
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:19,520
think or what do you hear?

1363
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:20,079
Speaker 8: How?

1364
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 15: That could be one aspect, definitely, because we're programmed to

1365
01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:28,560
think that there's nothing out there like that, right, and

1366
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:34,039
then something just as right there It changes their perspective

1367
01:30:34,119 --> 01:30:36,640
on things. But then there's also it goes to the

1368
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,359
other side of things, as the fear factor, like Okay,

1369
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:45,880
what is that monstrous? It looks scary to people, you know,

1370
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,319
it looks like a big teddy bear to me, I want.

1371
01:30:48,199 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 5: To go hug it.

1372
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:59,039
Speaker 15: But it's it is. It is definitely multiple sides of things.

1373
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,720
It depends on the person on how their their mind

1374
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:04,560
processes it.

1375
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,039
Speaker 5: Well, I got to I did get a chance, and

1376
01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:10,720
we were filming for legitimate science, and we had a

1377
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:16,600
therapist here and the goal was to bring in five

1378
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:21,600
people that definitely had PTSD from their encounters. Many of

1379
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:25,640
them didn't know all of the details many of them had.

1380
01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:29,840
They had more than one person there, and they lived

1381
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:34,640
through something very scary, and the idea was to have

1382
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:39,359
a therapist hypnotize them to bring out what want, memories

1383
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,479
that they had forgotten. But I can tell you this

1384
01:31:43,119 --> 01:31:47,600
that I was surprised actually at the level of PTSD

1385
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:53,479
people had, because when I heard their tears and screams

1386
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:59,279
and them remembering things, they little details they didn't remember.

1387
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,239
There was I don't want to, you know, give everything

1388
01:32:03,279 --> 01:32:06,760
away in a lot of cases, but but these people

1389
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:13,640
really were crying, really were emotional, yes, and it was powerful.

1390
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,840
I was like, wow, you know.

1391
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,079
Speaker 15: Those people digression therapy is what you're talking about.

1392
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not a therapist. I'm just a you know,

1393
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,159
a producer who was you know, watching all of this

1394
01:32:26,399 --> 01:32:29,159
go down. And we had you know, like four cameras

1395
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:34,840
filming each thinking. The therapists spent like a long time

1396
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:39,920
with them ahead of time as to not damage, you know,

1397
01:32:40,119 --> 01:32:43,319
to make sure no damage occurred during the hypnosis and

1398
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:47,600
so on. But it was just to bring them back

1399
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,520
in time, yes, farther and farther back in time, to

1400
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:56,439
bring out memories. But it was just my first hand

1401
01:32:58,039 --> 01:33:02,279
realization that TSD from a big foot encounter is a

1402
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:08,079
real thing. I didn't And it was interesting to get

1403
01:33:08,159 --> 01:33:12,640
to the reason why they were so scared to hear

1404
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:16,439
them going, you know, like if they were little, like

1405
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,000
young kids, and there were there was one case where

1406
01:33:19,039 --> 01:33:23,640
it was two gals that were quite young. They were

1407
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:31,000
at their parents' trailer alone and this thing stepped out

1408
01:33:32,399 --> 01:33:34,479
and then it was kind of what they both went

1409
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:38,680
through mentally and you know, thinking, and then it came

1410
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:43,760
in the trailer when in the trailer like during the night,

1411
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,000
and they're just I mean, it was it was insane

1412
01:33:47,079 --> 01:33:51,199
with these these gals went through and these these were

1413
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,239
these people were from them. They were in the military.

1414
01:33:56,239 --> 01:33:58,760
I mean, they were enlisted in the military. These were

1415
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:04,199
not like, you know, mushy wanna be babies. These were

1416
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:10,399
tough ladies. And yet to hear the ordeal that.

1417
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 15: Military people tell me encounters that they've had on bases.

1418
01:34:17,239 --> 01:34:23,319
Oh yeah, and it's it is amazing. Well, it's it

1419
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,359
is amazing to hear. At the same time, it's not

1420
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:32,760
unusual because of location, is everything, right? I mean, you

1421
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:36,720
know there's bases that I've been told about from different

1422
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:40,359
stories where they were like deep into the woods.

1423
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 5: You know.

1424
01:34:41,359 --> 01:34:43,600
Speaker 15: You see some of these documentaries people are out walking

1425
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,560
around and they're investigating things and they found old bunkers.

1426
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,399
You know, there's military installations all over the place that

1427
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,479
we don't know about. So you know, if somebody's out

1428
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:57,239
there and they're you know, when they were in working times,

1429
01:34:58,079 --> 01:35:01,000
you know, they're out securing the grounds, something comes in

1430
01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:06,760
that they're not used to seeing. Yeah, it could, most definitely.

1431
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,640
I mean, especially if you're in its territory. It might

1432
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:14,079
throw stuff at you. It might growl in such a

1433
01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:18,760
way that infrasound happens it makes you sick. I mean,

1434
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:23,079
I haven't heard that happen yet, but I've heard of well,

1435
01:35:23,279 --> 01:35:25,279
I mean RPG had that happen to him.

1436
01:35:25,319 --> 01:35:28,119
Speaker 5: But it's just.

1437
01:35:30,119 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 15: There's a lot of things that we don't know.

1438
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:36,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, there seems to be so many sides to

1439
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:40,399
the the fear. I remember, you know, being young and

1440
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:45,720
like watching legend about Boggy Creek, Oh yeah, and having

1441
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,279
fear of the dark for quite a while after that movie.

1442
01:35:52,159 --> 01:35:55,960
And so yeah, they're just I mean, that's one aspect,

1443
01:35:56,039 --> 01:35:59,439
the unknown, as an aspect, the fact in real life

1444
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:04,479
they're huge. They're not supposed to exist. Monsters are real.

1445
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:06,600
Where I was told, you know, growing oh, go to

1446
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,880
bad monsters aren't real, you know what I mean.

1447
01:36:09,319 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 15: Yeah, there's so many.

1448
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,600
Speaker 5: Aspects to the trauma, and I do think a good

1449
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:20,560
part of it is is the why too, Like why

1450
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:25,000
why are they? Yeah? Why why did they? Why did

1451
01:36:25,079 --> 01:36:28,640
this thing confront me? Why did it follow me? Why? Why?

1452
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 4: Why?

1453
01:36:29,159 --> 01:36:32,079
Speaker 5: Why was it trying to kill me? They never know?

1454
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 15: Right, Well, I can tell you the rest of the

1455
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:39,159
story about my childhood, order yeah, please please, So after

1456
01:36:39,359 --> 01:36:44,560
all these years of not knowing why I was able

1457
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,079
to see this thing at this at that age, like

1458
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,079
everybody under asked the question, why we just we were

1459
01:36:51,159 --> 01:36:57,079
just saying that. Well, over some time of explaining this

1460
01:36:57,239 --> 01:37:00,920
story to certain people recently that past couple of years,

1461
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:06,800
a sensitive Native American blood had told me that they

1462
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:11,399
reached out to some ancestors and got some answers for me.

1463
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:19,199
I wholeheartedly believe that this answer is the truth. The

1464
01:37:19,279 --> 01:37:23,960
Bigfoot stopped me from going into the woods because there

1465
01:37:24,079 --> 01:37:26,319
was something else in those woods that's gonna harm me.

1466
01:37:30,239 --> 01:37:34,119
So it's by chance sometimes that we see these things,

1467
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:40,079
and sometimes it's not. It's just like everything else in life.

1468
01:37:40,319 --> 01:37:44,079
You know, everything happens for a reason. There are certain

1469
01:37:44,159 --> 01:37:47,079
stages that we have to go through in life, whether

1470
01:37:47,159 --> 01:37:50,680
they're good or bad, to get where we're supposed to be.

1471
01:37:52,039 --> 01:37:56,359
And you know, telling my story that I've gone through

1472
01:37:56,439 --> 01:38:00,680
for the last five years is basically a test to

1473
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:06,359
what Bigfoot has done to change my life. And it's

1474
01:38:07,199 --> 01:38:12,119
such a wonderful way of looking at it. And if

1475
01:38:12,199 --> 01:38:14,920
it wasn't for that sighting when I was thirteen years old,

1476
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,760
that was supposed to happen for a reason, because here

1477
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:24,399
I am now talking to people and sharing stories and

1478
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:29,920
doing investigations and you know, meeting my wife and meeting

1479
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,079
all kinds of other people, and you know, just you know,

1480
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:39,680
I spent so many years watching TV shows, just being

1481
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:45,199
so interested in the different shows, and then now that

1482
01:38:45,359 --> 01:38:48,239
I've been so ingrained in this that I have become

1483
01:38:48,399 --> 01:38:51,000
friends with the same people that I've watched on TV.

1484
01:38:52,399 --> 01:38:55,079
And it's like, you know, my wedding.

1485
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,159
Speaker 5: Well, I've thought about that too. I thought, you know,

1486
01:38:58,199 --> 01:39:00,119
when I was up in the Arctic and fun, I

1487
01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:03,840
saw those footprints. There were so many of them, there

1488
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:05,680
were one hundred times. I mean they went off into

1489
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,000
the horizon and I knew they weren't beer and I

1490
01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:13,079
came home obsessed, and that was a life changing moment.

1491
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:14,159
Speaker 15: Definitely.

1492
01:39:14,399 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 5: Monster Quest wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for that.

1493
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 15: Exactly same thing with everything else. It's just it brings

1494
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:27,960
something forward in us that we want to go discover

1495
01:39:28,199 --> 01:39:33,760
more about it, and in turn we discover everything else,

1496
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:40,079
and and that brings people together that I mean, that's honestly,

1497
01:39:40,319 --> 01:39:43,159
we're supposed to be bringing everybody together.

1498
01:39:43,279 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 5: Well, it's as good of it's it's as good as

1499
01:39:46,279 --> 01:39:48,000
of a theory as anything, right.

1500
01:39:48,359 --> 01:39:50,079
Speaker 15: Yes, and it could be true.

1501
01:39:50,119 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 5: But because I do look back and I go, if

1502
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,840
that one step wouldn't have happened, I wouldn't be here

1503
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,880
right now. I wouldn't I wouldn't have met you, exactly,

1504
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:02,800
we wouldn't have met each other. I wouldn't have met Jeff.

1505
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:07,279
There's are so many things I have met too through

1506
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:11,039
the last forty years. I don't know how many, but

1507
01:40:11,319 --> 01:40:12,920
hundreds and hundreds of people.

1508
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 15: Somebody wanted to tell you. Hi. By the way, I

1509
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:18,359
was talking to him before the show.

1510
01:40:19,199 --> 01:40:21,039
Speaker 5: I can't even read it. Hold it up a little close.

1511
01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:26,479
Oh Squatch Juice, Brandon.

1512
01:40:26,279 --> 01:40:30,600
Speaker 15: Right, Yeah, I just I did a little plug there

1513
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:31,000
for him.

1514
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:31,600
Speaker 5: Oh you did.

1515
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:35,079
Speaker 15: No, he's ambassador for Squatch Juice.

1516
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:35,359
Speaker 4: Man.

1517
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 5: That guy. He works hard, he does, and he's got

1518
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:43,520
a great product. I love the just for him. I

1519
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,119
love the flavor.

1520
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 15: Oh my gosh.

1521
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's insane. I pour a little bit of that

1522
01:40:49,399 --> 01:40:52,640
in my water and I'm like drinking water like crazy.

1523
01:40:53,399 --> 01:40:54,159
That's good stuff.

1524
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 15: That makes it more app for me to drink water

1525
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,159
because I don't like the water sometimes.

1526
01:41:01,399 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, water's kind of play. And so there you go.

1527
01:41:06,039 --> 01:41:10,119
There you go, Brandon, buddy. The only thing I'm not

1528
01:41:10,279 --> 01:41:12,399
good at when I meet people, it's things like that.

1529
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:17,159
I know it's Brandon or Brendan. He's Brandon, and then

1530
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:22,159
and then and then your your friend is Brendan Jeffona.

1531
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 7: I can see.

1532
01:41:25,079 --> 01:41:29,039
Speaker 5: He's so awesome. And so I'm good with names, but

1533
01:41:29,279 --> 01:41:33,119
only some of those little o's and e's and things

1534
01:41:33,159 --> 01:41:36,359
that get mixed up. So forgive me. But yeah, this

1535
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:39,359
is a good product. But let's talk a little bit

1536
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:43,600
more about that. It's never talked about ever on any

1537
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:48,800
podcast of why we've seen them, and it's so it's

1538
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:55,000
changed your life. It's definitely changed my life. Oh my god.

1539
01:41:55,199 --> 01:41:59,039
I think about all of the things that happened. I've

1540
01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:03,079
I got a letter once from somebody who worked for

1541
01:42:03,359 --> 01:42:07,600
me during the two thousand and eight crash, and he

1542
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,960
wrote me a letter saying, you know, I would have

1543
01:42:10,079 --> 01:42:14,479
lost my house if it wasn't for Monster Quest really,

1544
01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:20,199
and I'm like wow, And he was send me this

1545
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:25,319
heartfelt letter about how it saved his marriage, his house,

1546
01:42:26,279 --> 01:42:32,000
everything Monster Quested, and I'm like, wow, I mean, that's

1547
01:42:32,319 --> 01:42:36,000
that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. The butterfly effect is

1548
01:42:36,079 --> 01:42:39,039
well we're talking about somebody should name it the Bigfoot

1549
01:42:39,119 --> 01:42:42,760
butterfly effect or something. Yeah, there needs to be some

1550
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:48,840
vernacular to describe that, because it is weird. And I

1551
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:51,680
think back of all the good really like the people

1552
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,960
I would never want to be out of my life

1553
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,840
that I meet through the Bigfoot mystery.

1554
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:03,560
Speaker 15: If we take all of that in a nutshell and

1555
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:08,000
just think about that whole concept, I can't ever get

1556
01:43:08,079 --> 01:43:15,199
over this concept right here, is Bigfoot changing all of

1557
01:43:15,279 --> 01:43:19,720
these lives by bringing us all together for one mere

1558
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,479
fact that we're looking for some creature in the woods.

1559
01:43:25,079 --> 01:43:31,680
Mother Nature is providing us with reuniting people.

1560
01:43:35,399 --> 01:43:38,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what if it's Yeah, I mean it could

1561
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,920
be all arranged by like people call them Guardian Angels

1562
01:43:42,079 --> 01:43:46,319
or whatever or star seeds, star seeds, sure, millions of

1563
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:51,399
her names. That's it's interesting. You're making me think they're ron.

1564
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:56,039
You're making me think. But yeah, you know, if I

1565
01:43:56,159 --> 01:43:58,760
think back and I'm like, oh my god, all the

1566
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:02,159
things that wouldn't what would I be doing today that

1567
01:44:02,359 --> 01:44:05,760
had not found those footprints? Where would I be today?

1568
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:10,159
Would I be on skid row? What? I don't know,

1569
01:44:11,319 --> 01:44:14,079
you know, you just you do wonder. But it definitely

1570
01:44:14,239 --> 01:44:18,520
changed a lot of lives and the people I was around,

1571
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,600
not only all the people that work for me over

1572
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:24,359
through the years, but all of the people I've met

1573
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:28,720
and befriended, and yeah, some great by the way, I

1574
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:32,000
do want to say this too, ninety nine point nine

1575
01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:36,000
nine percent of all the people I've met are wonderful. Yeah,

1576
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:40,520
like a step above the average guy, the step above

1577
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,079
the average lady. People are.

1578
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:45,399
Speaker 7: The great community.

1579
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:51,359
Speaker 5: They have a thirst for knowledge. They're more curious, and

1580
01:44:53,159 --> 01:44:55,680
I'm amazed, Like when you go to those conferences run

1581
01:44:56,239 --> 01:44:58,279
and you see all those people giving up their day

1582
01:44:58,399 --> 01:45:01,920
to listen to a speaker. They're there to learn. I mean,

1583
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:05,279
they could be doing a million other things, and that's

1584
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,800
that's that's respect in my mind.

1585
01:45:08,399 --> 01:45:12,199
Speaker 7: Well, one thing really unique among I don't know if

1586
01:45:12,239 --> 01:45:14,359
hobby is the right word, but communities like this, even

1587
01:45:14,359 --> 01:45:17,840
when people degree disagree in this community, they're pretty respectful.

1588
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:21,039
I mean a lot of everybody has a pretty different

1589
01:45:21,079 --> 01:45:25,039
idea and for the most part, people are really respectful

1590
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:29,600
of everyone's different ideas and different theories. And that's really cool.

1591
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,560
That's kind of unique among you know, any kind of

1592
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:34,119
specialized community like this.

1593
01:45:35,079 --> 01:45:38,399
Speaker 15: The way I always say to people is is it's

1594
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:43,840
okay if you don't believe, but don't dismiss me for believing. Sure,

1595
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:50,760
everybody has their own thoughts, everybody their own interests. It's

1596
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,760
just like I'd say that, well, I'd rather play a

1597
01:45:53,800 --> 01:46:00,279
piccolo than a guitar. Okay, So that's fine, that's fine.

1598
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,560
You want to do somebody's got to play it, you know.

1599
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:08,359
It's just like I'm not afraid to start talking about

1600
01:46:08,399 --> 01:46:09,880
bigfoot no matter where I'm.

1601
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 5: At, Like, no, I'm not either anymore, not at all.

1602
01:46:14,399 --> 01:46:17,640
Speaker 15: I've gotten half of the guys I work with interested

1603
01:46:18,319 --> 01:46:21,399
because oh what are you doing this week? Or on

1604
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,439
what sure are you going to this week? Oh when's

1605
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,800
the documentary coming out? Like you know, it's just they're

1606
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,439
always now because I talk about it so much. Where

1607
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,960
whenever I first started working there years ago, everybody was like, ah,

1608
01:46:36,079 --> 01:46:38,399
that doesn't exist. I mean they some of them will

1609
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:41,760
still say it, but it's just everybody's invested now. They

1610
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:43,560
want to know what the next step is.

1611
01:46:44,039 --> 01:46:46,560
Speaker 5: Well, it definitely wakes you up. If you know, people

1612
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:50,039
call that. I'm not saying whoke, I'm just saying who No,

1613
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:57,159
it wakes you up. It humble, it's humbling, You're humbled,

1614
01:46:57,239 --> 01:47:06,159
you're awake. Definitely think it causes growth and support and support.

1615
01:47:06,399 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 15: When you get somebody to open up their mind and

1616
01:47:09,079 --> 01:47:12,279
give that give and give them that opportunity to be

1617
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,079
able to speak about something that they didn't think they

1618
01:47:15,079 --> 01:47:18,840
would be able to right, that just opens up their world.

1619
01:47:19,239 --> 01:47:21,159
Speaker 5: But you know, what's you know another that I just

1620
01:47:21,279 --> 01:47:24,680
had just hit me just now. I could call you

1621
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,319
or any number of people all over the country and

1622
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:31,880
say I need a place to stay tonight, or do

1623
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,920
you want to meet for dinner or whatever? All over

1624
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,680
the whole country, every state, and people would be like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1625
01:47:39,159 --> 01:47:44,479
you know that's that's crazy. So it's like you have

1626
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,760
we all have friends all over the country, all over

1627
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:50,920
the world, all of the world. Yeah, actually, right now,

1628
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:54,279
you're absolutely right. That's pretty powerful.

1629
01:47:56,239 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 7: You know, just didn't fight right there, Doug.

1630
01:48:01,239 --> 01:48:04,319
Speaker 5: Uh huh. I'm trying to figure out how you got

1631
01:48:04,359 --> 01:48:06,760
all these I got me to think about all these things.

1632
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:14,640
Speaker 15: I think outside of the box. Okay, well, well see

1633
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:17,279
that that's another thing about me. Remember I said that,

1634
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:22,720
like my my biker bigfoot is like my clown costume. Yeah,

1635
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:27,479
get ready for this one. You already heard part of

1636
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:31,840
the story and you have the picture. So if you

1637
01:48:32,079 --> 01:48:35,760
trail back in the history of my family, yeah, there's

1638
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:40,399
a reason why. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I

1639
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:41,680
descend from circus.

1640
01:48:42,319 --> 01:48:42,560
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1641
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:49,039
Speaker 15: So in there it is Hows and Cushing. There was

1642
01:48:49,119 --> 01:48:51,520
at one time that they worked together before it was P. T.

1643
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:57,359
Barnum and Bailey, and in the eighteen hundreds the International

1644
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:01,399
House Circus was in the United States. They actually went

1645
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:06,520
overseas to England to perform in front of the Royal family.

1646
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:10,760
There was a lot of different things. I don't have

1647
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:14,039
the information in front of me, but if you Google

1648
01:49:14,199 --> 01:49:20,359
search the International House Circus, it'll tell you that our

1649
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:24,880
circus did a lot of groundbreaking things for the future

1650
01:49:25,079 --> 01:49:26,039
of circuses.

1651
01:49:26,199 --> 01:49:28,279
Speaker 5: So this is a really old circus.

1652
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 15: Yes, it was in the eighteen hundreds. Like I said,

1653
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:37,479
it was the International House Circus, made up by Seth

1654
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:40,520
Howells and his brother. I descend from Seth. He's like

1655
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:46,600
my great great grandfather. And then they joined forces with Cushing,

1656
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,960
which a lot of people would know about Cushing, but

1657
01:49:50,279 --> 01:49:53,079
they also joined forces with P. T. Barnum before it

1658
01:49:53,159 --> 01:49:55,199
was P. T. Barnum and Bailey, which is.

1659
01:49:55,239 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 7: What we know now.

1660
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:00,560
Speaker 15: It's been long since been disbanded. But I'm working on

1661
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:06,560
some things. Yeah, so you never know what's going to happen. Yeah,

1662
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,880
but it does explain a lot of the reason why

1663
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,079
I I the way.

1664
01:50:12,199 --> 01:50:15,199
Speaker 5: It's it's well, it's in your your You have a

1665
01:50:15,279 --> 01:50:19,159
little bit of showman in you obviously, or you wouldn't

1666
01:50:19,239 --> 01:50:20,920
you wouldn't want to put up I mean know, whing

1667
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:22,239
the hell is going to think to put a big

1668
01:50:22,279 --> 01:50:24,840
foot cost you want to go right around on Harley Davidson.

1669
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:27,079
Speaker 4: You you you.

1670
01:50:29,239 --> 01:50:33,199
Speaker 5: Have the collective consciousness in your genes and your DNA.

1671
01:50:33,319 --> 01:50:33,880
It's in there.

1672
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:34,680
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1673
01:50:35,079 --> 01:50:38,319
Speaker 5: But it's obviously you're having fun and you're helping people,

1674
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,920
and it's it's really but this way you're making people

1675
01:50:42,039 --> 01:50:42,680
have a good day.

1676
01:50:43,159 --> 01:50:45,720
Speaker 7: Absolutely, it's inherently a positive thing.

1677
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 15: It's just great that that's that's what I love about

1678
01:50:49,039 --> 01:50:56,000
the whole thing unusual. I embraced the chaos that we

1679
01:50:56,119 --> 01:51:01,199
call life, and and I just I throw it back

1680
01:51:01,239 --> 01:51:05,079
at everybody. It's like, here, let's go do this, how

1681
01:51:05,119 --> 01:51:09,439
about we do things this way? Or just the thoughts

1682
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,079
come through my mind all the time on different things,

1683
01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:15,319
and that's that's where the questions come out. I'll be like, Okay, well,

1684
01:51:16,399 --> 01:51:20,239
why couldn't it be like this? Why why couldn't we

1685
01:51:20,359 --> 01:51:22,920
think that? Hey, maybe that is that way. You know,

1686
01:51:23,199 --> 01:51:26,680
just like I've heard about bigfoots were here long before man.

1687
01:51:27,199 --> 01:51:31,479
So you know, it's not nothing is out of the realm.

1688
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,439
I mean, nothing is out of the realm of possibility.

1689
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:40,239
Speaker 5: Okay, So we were talking about, oh, it's a possibility

1690
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:44,600
that some of the purpose might be to bring certain

1691
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:49,319
types of people together what do you think all of

1692
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:51,880
these things are. Do you think they're connected. Do you

1693
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:55,920
think UFOs bigfoots, because it's kind of the same thing

1694
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:59,319
when UFO. Some people see them a little more on

1695
01:51:59,359 --> 01:52:04,119
a regular basis. Some people never see them. There are.

1696
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:09,039
Speaker 15: I have not witnessed one up close. I've seen what

1697
01:52:09,199 --> 01:52:13,359
I believe that looked like stars that were doing zigzag

1698
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,520
motions like I didn't. I've never seen a star do

1699
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:18,600
a shooting star do that, So I believe that it

1700
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,600
was a UFO. But there are people out there that

1701
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:25,840
do have their regular sightings of them. There there's something

1702
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:31,960
going on with the inner Let me say this right,

1703
01:52:32,399 --> 01:52:40,399
the inner inner universal connection. That it's they're slowly reaching

1704
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:46,800
out to us. The thing about bigfoots, about stepping away,

1705
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:52,720
stepping back, and staying away from us. I believe that

1706
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:57,199
they are being very cautious of us because we are

1707
01:52:57,279 --> 01:53:00,560
one of the most dangerous animals on this planet. We

1708
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:04,279
have cognitive thinking, we have language, uh, you know, the

1709
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:08,880
the ability to speak and learn from different languages in

1710
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:13,560
different cultures. Uh, It's it's something that they have to

1711
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:19,520
get familiar with. You know, we have a destructive mind,

1712
01:53:20,399 --> 01:53:25,960
so we have they're being cautious, but they're both basically

1713
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:32,520
looking at us and saying, hey, here's here's another familiar

1714
01:53:34,039 --> 01:53:36,279
creature out there that you know, we're going to have

1715
01:53:36,399 --> 01:53:41,239
to make make some kind of communication with. I mean,

1716
01:53:41,239 --> 01:53:43,000
they've been studying us for a long time.

1717
01:53:43,159 --> 01:53:43,359
Speaker 5: You know.

1718
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:49,600
Speaker 15: You hear the reports about UFO abductions, and people tell

1719
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,640
their stories about what happened or what they believe happened,

1720
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,920
because you know, there's a lot of memory loss during

1721
01:53:55,319 --> 01:53:59,920
time lasting stuff, right. You know, there's abductions from bigfoots.

1722
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,079
You know, people say that they were inducted and they

1723
01:54:03,119 --> 01:54:07,880
got away. You know, there's there's these family that has

1724
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:10,079
been talked about, I can't remember the name of them,

1725
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,640
where there was a lady that was taken in by

1726
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:17,760
Bigfoot and they made a family. And that's where we've

1727
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:23,840
got like gigantic Pipacus. You know, there's the talk about

1728
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:28,279
the biblical sense of the Nephilon there. It's just it's

1729
01:54:28,359 --> 01:54:32,680
all over the realm of every possible thing that's going on.

1730
01:54:33,279 --> 01:54:35,920
There's people saying that they live among us already. You know,

1731
01:54:37,119 --> 01:54:45,399
it's everything is everywhere. When we actually have one of

1732
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:49,079
them or multiples of them stand right in front of

1733
01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:52,840
us and tell us, hey, this is why I'm here,

1734
01:54:53,399 --> 01:54:56,960
then we'll know everything else that we have right now

1735
01:54:57,119 --> 01:55:01,680
for information is just basically it's theories.

1736
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 5: The scariest thing I've heard recently, this was kind of creepy,

1737
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:12,239
was somebody who had mentioned that they had they knew

1738
01:55:12,279 --> 01:55:14,920
somebody at the Pentagon and they had said, the reason

1739
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:19,159
the Pentagon is fighting the release of so many things

1740
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:24,159
is because they're worried that once everything is released, the

1741
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:29,039
other beings right that we've been hiding are going to

1742
01:55:29,239 --> 01:55:34,199
feel and they're going to feel emboldened to one to

1743
01:55:34,359 --> 01:55:36,960
kind of like start walking into our living rooms.

1744
01:55:37,039 --> 01:55:42,439
Speaker 15: Basically, Yeah, it's kind of like making friends with a neighbor,

1745
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:44,079
and neighbor just thinks they can come.

1746
01:55:44,039 --> 01:55:47,279
Speaker 5: On over exactly what a great analogy.

1747
01:55:49,479 --> 01:55:56,159
Speaker 15: I mean, welcome and and acknowledgement that they exist because

1748
01:55:56,239 --> 01:56:00,199
right now, you know, there's only sightings and everybody just

1749
01:56:00,319 --> 01:56:04,079
thinks that they exist. Right, you know, once it's fully released,

1750
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,319
which it's supposed to be happening, and they're supposed to

1751
01:56:07,359 --> 01:56:11,760
be also, that that them coming forward to us more

1752
01:56:12,279 --> 01:56:15,159
than what they already have, I mean, what happens they're

1753
01:56:15,199 --> 01:56:15,960
going to be among us?

1754
01:56:16,359 --> 01:56:19,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's about. I mean, I could I

1755
01:56:19,199 --> 01:56:21,319
could kind of believe and buy into that that that

1756
01:56:21,399 --> 01:56:26,359
would be a fear because supposedly there's all these agreements

1757
01:56:26,439 --> 01:56:31,439
that you know, you can't really disclose yourself. But once

1758
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:35,199
everything's out, that'd be a horrible problem. Whendn't it, Jeff,

1759
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:40,039
all of a sudden, Uh, everybody's reporting aliens in their

1760
01:56:40,079 --> 01:56:40,640
living room.

1761
01:56:41,039 --> 01:56:43,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be something else.

1762
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 5: I mean it kind of makes sense, so saying that,

1763
01:56:48,399 --> 01:56:50,960
in other words, it could be like way more objects

1764
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:56,399
in our skies because they'll have no reason not to be. Yeah,

1765
01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:00,760
I mean, they'll be landing in our backyards.

1766
01:57:01,079 --> 01:57:04,479
Speaker 15: You know, there's been stories where people say that they

1767
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:08,439
saw something wrong with the sky.

1768
01:57:09,479 --> 01:57:11,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, and what it is?

1769
01:57:11,119 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 15: I mean this I'm using a cartoon for this chicken

1770
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:19,479
little where he said the sky is falling. Yeah, there

1771
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:22,479
was a trying or a hectagon that fell out of

1772
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:24,560
the sky. I mean it's kind of like, you know,

1773
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:28,199
there there are hiding themselves from us and playing sight.

1774
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 5: This is crazy to think about what what the what

1775
01:57:36,079 --> 01:57:38,079
the world is going to be like in like five years?

1776
01:57:39,199 --> 01:57:44,399
And does the government know bigfoots are real? You would

1777
01:57:44,439 --> 01:57:46,760
think they would, right, You would think that they would

1778
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:50,960
have had if they were collecting UFOs in the nineteen

1779
01:57:51,039 --> 01:57:57,079
thirties from Italy like this, David Gresch said, I just

1780
01:57:57,159 --> 01:57:59,640
would It would make no sense for them, It would

1781
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:03,439
make no since run for them not to be researching biquots.

1782
01:58:04,279 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 15: I strongly believe that they have one or multiples.

1783
01:58:08,399 --> 01:58:11,359
Speaker 5: They've got to I mean you would think, I mean,

1784
01:58:11,439 --> 01:58:14,880
if they're real and whether they're flesh and blood or

1785
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:19,520
something else, they would be researching that. Because anything that

1786
01:58:20,359 --> 01:58:22,600
has got that many reports, I mean there must be.

1787
01:58:24,039 --> 01:58:29,119
I know there's like ten thousand documented ones. But well,

1788
01:58:29,319 --> 01:58:31,800
I mean, you know, as good as good as I

1789
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,399
do that probably one two three four percent ever get.

1790
01:58:35,399 --> 01:58:45,439
Speaker 15: Reported growing now because it's yeah now it is, I mean, but.

1791
01:58:46,279 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 5: Not in but not small town America because they're still

1792
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:55,039
very afraid of being teased, toilet paper teased. Could you

1793
01:58:55,039 --> 01:58:56,960
imagine you're living at a town of two hundred and

1794
01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:59,840
fifty people, you're not saying crap.

1795
01:59:00,199 --> 01:59:03,279
Speaker 15: Well to any of those that are listening, come on

1796
01:59:03,439 --> 01:59:06,239
out and talk to us. We will talk to you

1797
01:59:06,359 --> 01:59:07,680
about it and not criticize you.

1798
01:59:08,239 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, great comment from Elizabeth here. This is this is

1799
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:14,439
something that I think I've always thought about it, Like,

1800
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:16,079
if you woke up tomorrow and all of a sudden

1801
01:59:16,119 --> 01:59:21,479
there's aliens on TV full disclosure, the world would kind

1802
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:26,399
of stop. Yeah, I mean the world would stop. I

1803
01:59:26,439 --> 01:59:29,680
mean what Elizabeth asked for people just listening. Would you

1804
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:31,920
go to work if there were aliens in your living room?

1805
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:33,720
And I think a lot of people would just say,

1806
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:37,399
what's the point of yeah doing anything? I mean, that

1807
01:59:37,439 --> 01:59:39,399
would just change your whole worldview.

1808
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:42,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, people would be worried, they'd be going through their

1809
01:59:42,319 --> 01:59:47,319
underworld or I'm joking, it's a joke.

1810
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 15: I think you made a comment earlier that like if

1811
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:56,359
all this were to come out and they would be

1812
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:59,640
right here in plain sight all the time, then there's

1813
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:05,000
no more research to do. Yeah, so what what would

1814
02:00:05,039 --> 02:00:08,079
be next after that? You know, we're still trying to

1815
02:00:08,119 --> 02:00:09,000
find NeSSI.

1816
02:00:09,159 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, God knows.

1817
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 7: God knows.

1818
02:00:15,279 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 5: So do you think there'll be a time where we

1819
02:00:20,239 --> 02:00:22,960
really will know about all of the stuff with the

1820
02:00:23,079 --> 02:00:25,159
UFOs or do you think they're still going to keep

1821
02:00:25,159 --> 02:00:30,640
a majority of it hidden? Well, what are your thoughts? Run.

1822
02:00:31,279 --> 02:00:35,840
Speaker 15: I know within the next two years that we're supposed

1823
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:39,119
to get a disclosure not from the.

1824
02:00:39,119 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 5: Government, Oh, okay, from from that say it, say it

1825
02:00:45,199 --> 02:00:47,960
from the from them the end, which is gonna be

1826
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,680
a little different than disclosure from the government. I think.

1827
02:00:52,119 --> 02:00:59,479
Speaker 15: They're gonna they're gonna come forward again. It goes back

1828
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:05,840
to that that fear of knowing as much as we

1829
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:09,720
want to know, it can it will change everything. I mean,

1830
02:01:11,199 --> 02:01:18,159
you don't even change things biblically, but if you deep

1831
02:01:18,359 --> 02:01:22,560
dive into a lot of the different scriptures and stuff,

1832
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:30,359
there's already words saying certain things. They've they've been really

1833
02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:33,439
deep diving on the Pyramids of Giza.

1834
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1835
02:01:35,159 --> 02:01:37,520
Speaker 15: Some of the hieroglyphs that they've been looking at have

1836
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,960
actually depicted a lot of things that we're going to

1837
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:51,000
be finding out. There's been more temples found throughout the

1838
02:01:51,039 --> 02:01:57,800
world that we didn't know about before. I've actually been

1839
02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:00,920
recently told about one and might be going on an

1840
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:01,760
expedition for that.

1841
02:02:02,479 --> 02:02:02,840
Speaker 7: Oh wow.

1842
02:02:04,239 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 15: And I'll let everybody know if that happens. But it's

1843
02:02:09,199 --> 02:02:13,000
just amazing to find out whenever, you know, I can

1844
02:02:13,039 --> 02:02:15,399
go out in the backyard and dig up a shovel

1845
02:02:15,439 --> 02:02:18,880
of dirt and find something that you wouldn't see from

1846
02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:23,000
the surface, you know, the sands of time they call it.

1847
02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:27,800
You know, Earth changes, Earth moves, and you know, just

1848
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:30,520
look at the Pyramids of Giza. That's only the tip

1849
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:34,840
of what they really are there. You know, there there's

1850
02:02:35,399 --> 02:02:40,159
more of them underground that we can't see because the

1851
02:02:40,279 --> 02:02:44,600
sands have shifted with all the winds and time over

1852
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:45,720
thousands of years.

1853
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:50,039
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, those thousands of years might be many, many,

1854
02:02:50,119 --> 02:02:54,399
many more thousands of years. You know, those things can

1855
02:02:54,479 --> 02:02:56,479
be so much older than what we've been told.

1856
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:58,840
Speaker 15: We're just at the tip of the iceberger of what

1857
02:02:58,920 --> 02:02:59,399
we've learned.

1858
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:04,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1859
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 5: So did you get a chance? I heard you were

1860
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:13,720
involved in the Flatwoods Monster mystery, and I did an

1861
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:17,359
episode on that. Not that I know any more than

1862
02:03:17,439 --> 02:03:19,960
you do, but God, what a weird case that was.

1863
02:03:21,279 --> 02:03:27,199
I Woods Monster, I know.

1864
02:03:27,439 --> 02:03:30,119
Speaker 15: I put an event together down their town hall meeting

1865
02:03:30,239 --> 02:03:34,279
at the elementary school. Jason was with me and I

1866
02:03:34,399 --> 02:03:38,520
had Less there. Less actually got to interview the final

1867
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:43,000
survivor before he passed, and sat and talked with me

1868
02:03:43,119 --> 02:03:45,800
about the whole thing, about what they saw and what

1869
02:03:46,319 --> 02:03:49,560
how it was described to be. It doesn't look anything

1870
02:03:50,119 --> 02:03:55,239
like what the pictures are, according to the description from

1871
02:03:55,279 --> 02:03:55,880
this person.

1872
02:03:56,920 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 5: It's Jeff go Ahead and threw up a Flatwood's monster

1873
02:04:00,079 --> 02:04:05,600
ture thing. It's basically like it was like a reptilian

1874
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:08,239
floating and some kind of chariot is what some of

1875
02:04:08,279 --> 02:04:10,640
the reports were. Right.

1876
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:16,479
Speaker 15: I'll look here if you if you cross the liquid terminator,

1877
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:25,119
which was a basically like a biological metal.

1878
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:26,840
Speaker 8: It was.

1879
02:04:27,119 --> 02:04:31,279
Speaker 15: It was like the metal is moving, is why it

1880
02:04:31,439 --> 02:04:35,640
was described. So I'll use the reference from the movie

1881
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:39,199
Men in Black where the gentleman that had the cat

1882
02:04:41,359 --> 02:04:45,039
went to the restaurant and the other creature killed him.

1883
02:04:45,399 --> 02:04:47,880
Whenever it got to the morgue, his face opened up.

1884
02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:51,520
There was a smaller creature inside. Right, this is what

1885
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:57,600
is believed that the Flatwood's Monster is. And it floats.

1886
02:05:00,319 --> 02:05:04,479
That really isn't the creature itself. That is the ship.

1887
02:05:07,239 --> 02:05:10,079
Speaker 5: So you think the ship was kind of humanoid shaped?

1888
02:05:11,079 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 15: Mm hmmm.

1889
02:05:13,720 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, see those are I was just so weird looking.

1890
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:23,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, pictures here.

1891
02:05:27,079 --> 02:05:32,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's quite a few depictions based on eyewitness descriptions

1892
02:05:34,399 --> 02:05:38,479
and didn't didn't it also wasn't it reported that it

1893
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:44,479
sprayed something on people at times? Did you hear any

1894
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:45,119
of that run?

1895
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:51,000
Speaker 15: There was only two major sightings and they were in

1896
02:05:51,119 --> 02:05:56,239
two different times. Ah, but any any description that I

1897
02:05:56,399 --> 02:06:01,439
heard from anybody, I did not hear that part. It

1898
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:06,800
might have just been a detail that they forgot. But

1899
02:06:08,039 --> 02:06:10,880
what I what I just explained is the only thing

1900
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:16,640
that I know. There's there's really no new information that

1901
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:22,079
I can that we were able to unfold. We weren't

1902
02:06:22,119 --> 02:06:24,399
able to get to the crash site because the property

1903
02:06:24,479 --> 02:06:26,359
es owned and and you know, I'm not allowed to

1904
02:06:26,399 --> 02:06:26,760
be on it.

1905
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:27,840
Speaker 8: Uh.

1906
02:06:29,079 --> 02:06:31,239
Speaker 15: The only place that we were able to do was

1907
02:06:31,399 --> 02:06:33,920
have the little town hall meeting at the school where

1908
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:38,520
the kids were playing soccer, which was actually football, and

1909
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:41,840
they saw the thing crash and they walked towards it,

1910
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:46,600
and it came out of the woods towards them, And

1911
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:51,319
there was a lot of reports where they seen the

1912
02:06:51,399 --> 02:06:56,560
thing going through the sky before it crashed, which, honestly,

1913
02:06:57,560 --> 02:07:01,800
if what you saw in those pictures was really the

1914
02:07:02,079 --> 02:07:07,600
creature was a ship, then the ship didn't really crash.

1915
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:13,800
It actually landed, but they heard a loud boom and

1916
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:18,600
it looked like a meteorite or star shooting whenever it

1917
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:21,239
was coming down. So I mean, it could have been

1918
02:07:21,319 --> 02:07:24,560
depicted as a crash because of the way that it

1919
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:27,119
was coming in. I mean, if you think about how

1920
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:31,760
NASA whenever the capsule comes back into orbit from space,

1921
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:34,000
it's almost like a bullfire.

1922
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:34,880
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1923
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:41,760
Speaker 15: So, I mean anything that's coming through space, unless it's extraterrestrial,

1924
02:07:42,399 --> 02:07:49,000
made with extraterrestrial metals, then it's going to be able

1925
02:07:49,039 --> 02:07:54,439
to withstand that. Where this thing ended up going to

1926
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:59,039
after these sightings, I don't know. There's just there's just

1927
02:07:59,159 --> 02:08:01,720
not enough information to be able to get anything more

1928
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:02,119
out of it.

1929
02:08:05,159 --> 02:08:07,520
Speaker 5: It's just such a weird That was just such a

1930
02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:10,239
weird one. The other one that was really weird was

1931
02:08:10,439 --> 02:08:18,159
the the one that happened down in Louisiana, the Pasca

1932
02:08:18,319 --> 02:08:23,319
Gula incident with the two guys that were on the

1933
02:08:23,439 --> 02:08:27,239
pier in Louisiana and these creatures abducted them, and they

1934
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:31,239
described him with these long fingers and these like turnip

1935
02:08:31,239 --> 02:08:36,880
heads and they abducted him and it was really weird.

1936
02:08:38,479 --> 02:08:40,319
Speaker 15: Okay, I haven't heard this one.

1937
02:08:42,119 --> 02:08:48,880
Speaker 5: The one I just mentioned. Yeah, Yeah, that was I

1938
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:51,840
cannot remember. I think it was the Pasca Gula And

1939
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,079
what were the guys names? One it was. One of

1940
02:08:57,119 --> 02:08:58,560
them was a Facebook friend.

1941
02:08:58,359 --> 02:09:00,439
Speaker 7: Of mine, Helvin.

1942
02:09:02,319 --> 02:09:03,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Calvin.

1943
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:04,039
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1944
02:09:05,159 --> 02:09:08,239
Speaker 5: One of the coolest things that verified their story why

1945
02:09:08,279 --> 02:09:11,920
the sheriff believed him because he left a recorder running

1946
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:15,640
in his office and left those two guys alone for

1947
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:20,960
like an hour, and those guys were talking amongst themselves,

1948
02:09:21,319 --> 02:09:24,119
and he recorded all of what they had, you know,

1949
02:09:24,239 --> 02:09:26,640
what they were doing. And so he knew these guys

1950
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:29,479
were freaked out and knew they were not lying. But

1951
02:09:29,560 --> 02:09:31,479
look at that. Look at that look on that thing.

1952
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:35,640
It looks like a turnip the creature. And and then

1953
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:37,840
I don't know it was Calvin or the other guy.

1954
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:42,079
He said it stuck a finger down in his throat.

1955
02:09:43,039 --> 02:09:48,319
I was digging around in his throat. It was just like, uh, and.

1956
02:09:50,279 --> 02:09:54,840
Speaker 15: The ship is that one picture of the ship?

1957
02:09:55,359 --> 02:09:58,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, supposedly it's what they saw, you know. And it

1958
02:09:58,520 --> 02:10:03,680
landed and he's things came out on a ramp and yeah,

1959
02:10:05,239 --> 02:10:08,960
Calvin never waived his story, not even a little bit.

1960
02:10:09,079 --> 02:10:13,479
That's the younger guy Calvin with alongside Burns. And he

1961
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:16,199
was a Facebook friend of mine for years and years

1962
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:21,920
and he passed not terribly long ago, but yeah, I

1963
02:10:22,039 --> 02:10:25,840
was stuck to his story kind of like I mean,

1964
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:30,439
it's kind of akin to the Travis Walton story, very

1965
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:40,119
very similar. Multiple witnesses weird weird story and police were involved,

1966
02:10:40,239 --> 02:10:46,640
and you know, all right, what do we got. I

1967
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:49,399
think we're gonna work because it's Father's Day. We're gonna

1968
02:10:49,399 --> 02:10:57,000
wrap this up early tonight because half the population is fried, tired,

1969
02:10:57,880 --> 02:11:01,319
too much sun, too many burgers, too many.

1970
02:11:01,199 --> 02:11:06,399
Speaker 15: Hot dogs, and I overdid it today myself.

1971
02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:07,159
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1972
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:11,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy. But thank you so much Ron for

1973
02:11:11,279 --> 02:11:13,760
coming on and thank you. Get you back again.

1974
02:11:13,880 --> 02:11:14,199
Speaker 7: Be fun.

1975
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:17,600
Speaker 5: I'll call you one of these days soon and just visit.

1976
02:11:19,279 --> 02:11:21,479
Speaker 15: Absolutely. Now you guys are in.

1977
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:26,439
Speaker 5: We're in Minnesota. We're just park to Minneapolis, so we're

1978
02:11:26,439 --> 02:11:30,520
about twelve hours away by car from you, maybe long

1979
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:35,479
fifteen hours or somewhere like that. Yeah, and you know

1980
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:40,319
the area you're in is like very hilly, mountainous.

1981
02:11:42,239 --> 02:11:47,920
Speaker 15: We're in the Appalachian Mountain Range, Yeah, which is a

1982
02:11:48,119 --> 02:11:53,119
huge fascination of mine because it carries a lot, a lot,

1983
02:11:53,319 --> 02:11:54,720
a lot of the cryptids.

1984
02:11:55,520 --> 02:11:58,920
Speaker 5: So you're not kidding, you're not kidding.

1985
02:12:00,079 --> 02:12:05,119
Speaker 15: Very interested to make plans to take the Appellationian Trail. Yeah,

1986
02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:10,520
so that that's something that I'm going to be planning

1987
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:11,279
down the road.

1988
02:12:12,359 --> 02:12:17,039
Speaker 5: Is that trail is it like a single track trail

1989
02:12:17,159 --> 02:12:19,000
or is a double track you can only.

1990
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:23,000
Speaker 15: Walk on it, correct, Yeah, you can only walk on it.

1991
02:12:23,279 --> 02:12:24,520
Speaker 5: But can you ride bikes?

1992
02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:28,119
Speaker 15: Well, some of it, a lot of it is like

1993
02:12:28,319 --> 02:12:33,199
very harsh drain. It goes, it runs from Maine to Georgia,

1994
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:39,239
and it is it's some of it's very unforgiving. You

1995
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:45,359
have to be very ready to do this. I've heard

1996
02:12:45,479 --> 02:12:51,720
so many stories of people getting lost, injured, whatever, and

1997
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:56,720
and they've witnessed so many crazy things on that trail,

1998
02:12:57,000 --> 02:13:01,479
like whether it's apparitions or Bigfoot or yeah.

1999
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:05,920
Speaker 5: Missing, there's even been a lot of missing people. And yeah, yeah, yeah,

2000
02:13:06,039 --> 02:13:09,840
it's it's crazy. Every time I read the stories. There's

2001
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:12,800
always something crazy going on in that area. It's like

2002
02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:15,119
a big triangle of weirdness.

2003
02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:19,479
Speaker 15: Yeah, the appalation triangle. That's what it should be called.

2004
02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:23,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, how far how far are you from the actual

2005
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:26,119
well mountain like trails?

2006
02:13:26,279 --> 02:13:32,439
Speaker 15: Actually, uh, it's Mount Davis is a tributary do the

2007
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:36,159
Appalachian Mountains kind of like a like a creek is

2008
02:13:36,159 --> 02:13:42,119
a tributary to a river. I'm only forty five minutes

2009
02:13:42,159 --> 02:13:45,479
away from Mount Davis. Now beyond that to get into

2010
02:13:45,520 --> 02:13:50,880
West Virginia it's probably about an hour, So i I'm

2011
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:51,800
not far from it.

2012
02:13:52,359 --> 02:13:55,119
Speaker 5: No, I mean that's just a short little drive.

2013
02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:57,199
Speaker 7: I wasn't too far from me. I was in a

2014
02:13:57,319 --> 02:14:00,239
mountaintop a couple of weeks ago by Scranton. So it's

2015
02:14:00,239 --> 02:14:04,720
a beautiful, beautiful area. Very hilly, surprising o' hilly it is. Yeah,

2016
02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:06,920
there's a lot you could hide. You could hide a

2017
02:14:06,920 --> 02:14:11,600
lot of animals in that area. There's deep valleys and yeah,

2018
02:14:11,640 --> 02:14:12,399
it's it's thick.

2019
02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:18,159
Speaker 15: A lot of une in that state.

2020
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:21,720
Speaker 7: An unsettlaball. I mean, areas that you just couldn't build.

2021
02:14:22,159 --> 02:14:24,560
People just couldn't live there. It's just just deep valleys

2022
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:28,319
with no access. It's just it's never going to be settled.

2023
02:14:28,319 --> 02:14:29,039
There's just no way.

2024
02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:32,159
Speaker 15: I tell you what was really interesting that happened while

2025
02:14:32,199 --> 02:14:35,640
we were on our two week trip, and not only

2026
02:14:35,720 --> 02:14:38,439
were we in New Jersey looking for the New Jersey Devil,

2027
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:41,600
but we was in West Virginia doing our thing with

2028
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:43,520
the flat woods and bigfoot.

2029
02:14:44,119 --> 02:14:44,239
Speaker 5: Uh.

2030
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:52,079
Speaker 15: We were able to meet Sherry Break. Her and her

2031
02:14:52,239 --> 02:14:57,439
husband own property in West Virginia. It's called Raven Rock Ranch.

2032
02:14:58,279 --> 02:15:01,359
They have B and B they have they get goats

2033
02:15:01,399 --> 02:15:04,840
and stuff, they have trails and things. And we got

2034
02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:06,680
a tour of that. And boy, I'll tell you what,

2035
02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:13,840
that's just a portion of West Virginia and where we

2036
02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:17,920
were researching is just a portion of West Virginia. There's

2037
02:15:18,039 --> 02:15:26,479
just so much land out there, monstrous trees and cliffs.

2038
02:15:27,600 --> 02:15:29,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very it's very difficult to access.

2039
02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:34,319
Speaker 15: Some of it's very hard to access. It really is.

2040
02:15:36,239 --> 02:15:37,000
Speaker 7: For us anyways.

2041
02:15:37,880 --> 02:15:40,520
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I almost want to move to West

2042
02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:43,279
Virginia just so I can have time to just go

2043
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:46,159
you know, I don't I'll do it, just be there

2044
02:15:46,239 --> 02:15:47,600
and just go out and investigate.

2045
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:55,199
Speaker 5: Are there a lot of researchers in Western Virginia? Do

2046
02:15:55,279 --> 02:15:55,600
you think?

2047
02:15:57,479 --> 02:16:01,119
Speaker 15: Personally? I know about five. I know that there's others.

2048
02:16:05,239 --> 02:16:07,000
I'm trying to think of what I've.

2049
02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:10,960
Speaker 5: Driven through West Virginia a few times, and that's that's

2050
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:12,279
a wild place.

2051
02:16:13,079 --> 02:16:15,199
Speaker 15: Well wild and wonderful West Virginia.

2052
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:18,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is wild and there's a lot of mountains, but.

2053
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:25,159
Speaker 15: It is absolutely both beautiful. My my roots strand into Buffanan,

2054
02:16:25,199 --> 02:16:30,119
West Virginia. That's where my family was from, and then

2055
02:16:30,159 --> 02:16:32,600
they come up here to Pennsylvania and I've been here

2056
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:35,040
all my life and I've been venturing around.

2057
02:16:37,440 --> 02:16:41,479
Speaker 5: Kenny Kenny Hess specifically calls you out and said you

2058
02:16:41,600 --> 02:16:43,120
need to look up Kenny Hess.

2059
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:45,360
Speaker 15: Okay, it lives.

2060
02:16:45,440 --> 02:16:48,559
Speaker 5: I think he lives out by you. He's Kenny's an

2061
02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:54,200
awesome guy. Oh, by the way, one last question. It's

2062
02:16:54,280 --> 02:16:58,120
kind of a yes or no. Have you ever been

2063
02:16:58,200 --> 02:17:02,479
out and heard any kind of of like buzzing or

2064
02:17:02,639 --> 02:17:05,559
humming sound when you've been out in the woods looking

2065
02:17:05,639 --> 02:17:06,280
for bigfoot?

2066
02:17:08,239 --> 02:17:12,799
Speaker 15: I haven't, but a friend of mine has. Really he

2067
02:17:12,959 --> 02:17:15,600
described it to me almost like there's bees in your head.

2068
02:17:16,440 --> 02:17:23,559
Okay there. I've had other instances of similar things that

2069
02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:28,200
I've heard, but not like a bee sound. But it

2070
02:17:28,319 --> 02:17:28,920
does exist.

2071
02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:32,600
Speaker 5: But your friend had mentioned that that's interesting. Yeah.

2072
02:17:32,840 --> 02:17:37,360
Speaker 15: Yeah, just you know, recently we were together in West Virginia,

2073
02:17:37,479 --> 02:17:40,920
this a couple like last week. He had told me

2074
02:17:41,000 --> 02:17:46,520
that he had been out and it's just there's these

2075
02:17:46,600 --> 02:17:52,159
weird things happen. Yeah, that's the strange anominally that bigfoot

2076
02:17:52,280 --> 02:17:55,719
is like you never know what's going to happen whenever

2077
02:17:55,840 --> 02:18:00,520
you're out there in the woods. What they're going to do. Yeah,

2078
02:18:00,879 --> 02:18:02,719
are gonna want to make you feel or what you're

2079
02:18:02,799 --> 02:18:03,239
gonna hear?

2080
02:18:05,719 --> 02:18:06,600
Speaker 5: So interesting.

2081
02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:09,799
Speaker 7: I'll get you, I'll get you. Kendy's number else after

2082
02:18:09,799 --> 02:18:12,959
we're done here else. Oh okay, all forward kiddie's number

2083
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:13,159
to you.

2084
02:18:13,959 --> 02:18:16,280
Speaker 5: All right, good, all right, so hang on just one

2085
02:18:16,319 --> 02:18:18,840
second round. We're going to do our wisdom of the week,

2086
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:20,600
and then we'll come back and say your advice.

2087
02:18:21,040 --> 02:18:22,680
Speaker 7: Right back, everyone, don't go away.

2088
02:18:23,440 --> 02:18:26,479
Speaker 2: It's now time for our wisdom of the week. A

2089
02:18:26,559 --> 02:18:29,280
good father does not have to be perfect. He has

2090
02:18:29,360 --> 02:18:33,639
to be present children. Remember the steady hand, the ride home,

2091
02:18:34,239 --> 02:18:36,879
the silly moments, and the love that showed up on

2092
02:18:36,959 --> 02:18:41,079
hard days. Fatherhood is measured by whether your kids fell protected,

2093
02:18:41,680 --> 02:18:45,959
believed in and loved enough to become themselves. Keep your word,

2094
02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:48,840
admit when you were wrong, love deeply, and make sure

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they always know there's a light on for them.

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Speaker 7: Good Night.

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Speaker 2: We hope to see you all next week. If you

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like the show tonight, please consider giving us a thumbs up,

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leaving a nice comment, and most of all, driving and

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hitting the bell so you will be notified when a

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new episode is dropping. Also, please share this episode. Now

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back to Doug and Jeff for our rap.

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Speaker 7: And we're back. One of us is I'm back.

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Speaker 5: By the way, I was going to mention that Matt Lankford,

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who was our guests. Last week he has been playing

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the buzz or the humbuzz per out in the wits

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Is experiment. And do you want to mention anybody who

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needs that sound? I have a looped recording and I'm

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happy to email it to anybody. Just get a hold

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of me a doug an untold radio am dot com

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and I will email it to you the sounds and

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you can play it on your phone and then broadcast

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it on a Bluetooth speaker. Cool. So anyhow, well, thank

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you again, especially because it was Father's Day. We really

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appreciate its great meeting you and keep up the good work.

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Speaker 15: I absolutely will.

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Speaker 7: Good Night everyone, Yeah, thanks, thanks, thanks for tuning in.

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Good night, Jeff, good night, Ron, good night.

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Speaker 4: I call you up in the middle of tonight. Been

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bothered by dreams and feeling all day. You give me comfort,

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say just give it some time. By the end of

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our talk and feeling just fine. You and I will

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always though, will we be long? They sing? No ordinary?

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We got go in all. I pick you up and

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up fifteen hour fo you shad on down the road.

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Speaker 17: Two wee cave for just doing me all the sudden

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blowing the euracious dot.

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Speaker 4: Calling move and I'll home again. Everybody can sy w

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we been know, we know what very we got go

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in all.

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Speaker 17: At the end of the world together forever swall in

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our way. If better you should be in town in

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our way. We never comports far in our way. What

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a time when we be together every day, but it

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betver would be less straight up no way back come

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to human game. At the end of the world together

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forever is well our way.

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Speaker 6: It never you should be endowed and operate. They never

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composed a part in lorway. At the end of the

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world together.

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Speaker 17: Forever is fond and alway. I never you should be

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endowed and allays.

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Speaker 4: They never composed a.

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Speaker 17: Part in our way.

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Speaker 4: On a time everything

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Speaker 17: Together, we never became a knows it never would be

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Australia than all fay back to you again