Speaker 1: Shhh.
Speaker 2: Our guest tonight is run House Michael Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: Looking back on the life that you leave.
Speaker 4: Him then rested only in the crowd, stick around.
Speaker 5: Through the crate, the feeling go the fire.
Speaker 4: You be dancing around on hearing sound of treating and.
Speaker 3: No one cares where he's coming from my ears and
no riding feeding.
Speaker 4: I can guess me. I'm new from the start the
days not cause you know one of these days will
be the world. Lances want a disaster. He's on the task.
My coast, that costa.
Speaker 6: Leaning the fumes of the ashes, the spirits that I
looking down the house.
Speaker 7: We're life from the Untold Radio Network.
Speaker 2: It's Untold Radio Am with Monster Quest producer host Doug
Hicheck and co host Jeff Pirella Jr.
Speaker 5: Untold Radio Am is going live right now.
Speaker 2: This show is for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 7: Yep, that's the ticket.
Speaker 2: Now Here are your Untold Radio A m posts, Doug
high Check and Jeff Corella Jr.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, oh gee there see I feel more comfortable
on it. I'm on the left side. I get the
left side. They switch. Do you have control over that?
You do?
Speaker 7: Yep? Just like magic, this magic, it's like the shuffling cards.
Speaker 5: Anyhow, Happy Father's Day to all the dads everywhere. It
is a beautiful evening to get together with all of
our fellow Ontolians. This is a beautiful Sunday night. I
hope it's nice where you're at. It sure as nice here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been a great weekend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been like seventies. It's going to be seventies
all week job.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love you.
Speaker 5: Gotta get out and ride. You mean you'll go out
for a motorcycle ride somewhere.
Speaker 7: I'm down all right ready?
Speaker 5: Anyhow, it's June twenty. First we are on episode three
is a three or four? Three or three is three
or three? All right? And we've got Ron Howes with
us yep. Ron works with people who suffer from PTSD
after Bigfoot encounters. Of course, maybe other encounters. We'll have
to ask him. But he's been on countless expeditions all
over the all over the country, and so we're going
to kind of explore all sorts of things and maybe
get into even some other kryptons.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm looking forward to talking to him.
Speaker 5: But he is known as biker Bigfoot, so he goes
to uh my conferences and stuff. And I think that's
how he got got his story out, because he dressed
up as a bigfoot and then rode as Harley cool
to these conventions, and of course that would attract attention,
right sure, Yeah, I would walk up to him.
Speaker 7: Yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so maybe you could be You could be on
your Moto gutsy and we're a bigfoot cost Jeff, it
never never occurred to you, It did.
Speaker 7: It didn't. It does seem like Bigfoot kind of belongs
to the Harley though probably a Harley guy, hardly.
Speaker 5: Not a Moto gus. We could be an Italian big Foot.
I guess I have a little like I have a
little curly hillbar mustache or something anyhow, But I get
to visit with Ron. He seems like a really cool guy.
I think you really enjoy him. And he'll share his
encounter too, looking forward to it. Yeah, and I he
did not share his or with me, So I have
no idea what's coming up. So stay tuned for Ron. Plus.
We have clips, we have some fake as funk, we
have weird and fast news and a whole lot more.
So you want to turn those lights down, grab your
comfy chair, pour yourself a cool beverage, and relax, like, Jeff.
Speaker 7: Really, I'm relaxed.
Speaker 5: You are relaxed. You look, you look all.
Speaker 7: Smiling tonight, trying to smile?
Speaker 5: Are you trying? What do you mean trying? You shouldn't
have to try to smile. You're just you just you're
just happy, pretty good mood you are. Yeah, I notice.
So anyhow, grab your comfy chair, pour yourself a cool beverage.
Don't do don't pour yourself the kind of beverage Jeff
probably had. Nope, and relax as we take a little
bit of a journey with a few chills tonight, I think. Yeah, anyhow,
we are your home of.
Speaker 7: Unverified crap all always.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't even have to put it up because
apparently it's in the open now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like it. It's in the video open and
there's T shirts available now. Yeah, that's funny. How that
kind of got some legs. That can take me very
long to make it, No.
Speaker 5: Jeff, Jeff, Jeff designed the logo. Oh, he's going to
put it up very I like some of the other
stuff because it's what does it say in the cup again?
Speaker 7: Question everything and believe nothing. Yeah, that was it. I
love that saying that's a good, good philosophy.
Speaker 5: Yes, we need to get a T shirt out with
just that on that would that would be a good one.
Speaker 7: Because we don't take this too seriously.
Speaker 5: No, well we do. We don't.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because it's true. It is true.
Speaker 5: It's you know this stuff. That's why we explore it.
If it was all verified, we wouldn't be talking about it, right.
Speaker 7: We were phrase, we don't take ourselves too seriously. That's
a better way of phrasing us. We take the topics.
Speaker 5: They're welcome here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, ask questions.
Speaker 5: Let's start with our weird and fast news, and it's weird.
Speaker 7: Time for some news.
Speaker 5: It's time for weird and fast news. First off, we
have a spider that pretends to be a zombie fungus.
Would you like do you have that on your head?
Scientists have discovered a new Amazonian spider in Ecuador that
disguises itself as a parasitic fungus.
Speaker 7: Unbelievable.
Speaker 5: The species Jeff's gonna pronounce this, the species of tezonal
ski Yeah. I can see wasca in there, right, I.
Speaker 7: Got taxoa, I don't know, yeah, taxing kiasca.
Speaker 5: There you go. It has a pale body, structures that
look like fungus gross and it even sits motionless under
leaves where where real spider killing fungi are usually found.
So researchers first thought that they were looking at a mushroom.
Then they realized the fungus had eight legs. This is
the first documented case it was spider mimicking a fungus
that normally infects spiders. So that is a little odd
spider pretending to be the very thing that kills it.
Speaker 7: Nature is amazing other to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you one of those people when you find
a spider in your house, you catch it alive and
release it.
Speaker 7: I don't, I don't kill I don't kill bugs. Nless,
I kind of have to. I'll kill a sting bugs,
but most bugs live and let live.
Speaker 5: Ser Okay, see you're not a squashing kind of guy.
Speaker 7: Okay, only only biting and stinging bugs. Otherwise.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm keeping all of my judgment in my pocket.
And then this could this next thing is pretty cool.
So apparently human regeneration may not be gone, just switched off.
So apparently researchers at Texas you him say, mammals may
have a hidden regenerative powers that can be reactivated. So
in animal studies they use two stage treatments involving growth
factors f g F two in BPM two to redirect
healing away from scar tissue and towards regrowth. Okay, the
treatment restored bone joint structures, tendons, and ligaments after amputation
in study animals. Kind of crazy. So the big idea
here is that humans and other mammals may not have
completely lost the ability to regenerate complex body parts. The
system may simply be buried under our normal scar forming response.
The regrown tissues were not perfect copies yet, so give
us some time, and this couldn't I mean, think of
all the people I could help.
Speaker 7: Wow, yeah, okaid to regenerate lost tissue, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Or somebody with even rheumatoid you know, they could
get their their joints rebuilt. Or somebody with a bad HILP.
I mean, could could help all sorts.
Speaker 7: Of organs hearing envision issues.
Speaker 5: Know. Yeah, and then uh, story number three, The male
clinic finds the kidney as a secret backup system. Male
clinic scientists have under uncovered a hidden way of kidney
how blah, blah blah. Male clinic scientists uncovered a hidden
way the kidneys conserve water. Okay, and this is separate
from something they call vastos vast oppression, the hormone long
believed to be the main controller of urine concentration. I
didn't know there was a hormone for urine concentration. That
the discovery came by accident. When researchers were testing something
called probing sid, an old drug from the nineteen forties.
They expected it to worsen polycystic kidney disease cell models,
but instead it slowed cyst growth. The surprising pathway involved URATE,
better known as a molecular molecule linked to gout. Now,
when I was fifteen, I did a lot of experience,
a lot of experience experiments with uric acid as for
a chemical reaction that I was.
Speaker 7: Trying to get interesting.
Speaker 5: So it's like it's only like a teenager with bags
of uratic acido. Anyhow, Let's see inside kidney cells, URATE
acts like a signal that moves water channels to the cell.
So it moves them to the cell service helping the
body or water. In a small clinical trial, adding, I
hate this word probin acid. It reduced urine volume by
thirty percent of patients, which could be a huge for
people who take p k D drugs that make them
urinate constantly, and probably people with prostate problems.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: That was like a lot of bloh blah blah. I'm
not sure what was that interesting? Okay, And then a
dying porpoise species gets a digital afterlife. The ven the quita,
the world's most endangered marine mammal, now has a digital lifeline.
Researchers created a detailed three D model of a rare
wikita skeleton using CT scans, micro CT imaging, and digital photography.
The quita is a tiny porpoise found only in Mexico's
northern Gulf of California, and only a handful are estimated
to remain in the wild. I didn't know that either.
I've heard of the I've heard of them, but I
didn't know there was that few of them. This virtual
archive could let museum schools researchers study and even print
accurate replicas of the animal before it disappears forever. I
don't think they will hand hint, it's a bittersweet story.
We may be digitally preserving a creature we failed to
protect physically. It says the main threat remains illegal gill
net fishing tied to the black market. Uh yeah, okay.
And then they figured out how to turn red lettuce
turned into green lettuce, and then got something chemically stranger, boring,
so too boring to even go into. No researchers to
use on genome editing. Genome editing to turn red lettuce
green by blocking a gene involved in making red. God,
why did they do this to me? Anthrosinin pigments. But
instead of just changing color, the lettuce redirected its chemistry
and built up another beneficial plant compound, including flavonoids such
as quercitin, which isn't I'm sure all junk food, right, Yeah,
it's all jeff junk food. Best part, the editing lettuce
kept growing normally. What could go wrong? This points towards
future custom nutrition crops where scientists can tune the chemical
profile of vegetables without hurting plant growth. It's not just
lettuce color, it's like re routing the plant's internal factory. Yeah,
we could go on red pigment off other antioxygens and
compounds up and on there you go.
Speaker 7: Sounds like a bad idea.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's they're messing with everything, aren't they. Now, we're like,
we're like an alien in our own mankind is like
an alien invasion on our own our own foods.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just don't mess with it.
Speaker 5: Oh all right? And then number six is about chronic
wasting disease may spread silently across species something they didn't know.
Speaker 7: That's not good either.
Speaker 5: A University of Calgary study looked as to whether chronic
wasting disease, the fatal prion disease affecting deer and elk,
could move beyond serviands. Researchers found that infectious prion prions
is a preons A prions.
Speaker 7: I think it's pre remember, I think so, I can't remember.
Speaker 5: There's a prion. I don't know, it says, I'm gonna
call them Bryans sure that infectious prions could present in
even animals that showed no symptoms. And let's talk about it.
What a what a p preon is? It's basically a
folded protein. It's not alive. It's not a live like
a virus or a bacteria or virus. And that's why
they can't be killed. So what happens is when you
get two folded protein cells next to each other, they'll
bump into one that's not folded and it will fold,
and that one will bump into one that's not folded
and it'll fold. And so as these protein cells start folding,
they kill or make the host. You'll have a lot
of health problems, right, And a lot of this happens
in the brain. And if you eat prions or preons,
it can possibly cause these things to start forming in
your body. So now everybody knows it's just a folded
protein cell.
Speaker 7: So don't eats.
Speaker 5: Oh god, okay, so I'm just looking here. So it says.
Researchers are not saying there's an immediate human threat yet,
but preons are creepy because they can change as they
pass through hosts and infected animals.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: Infected animals can shed prions into soil vegetation through urine
feces long before looking sick. So, in other words, you
got a bunch of sick dear, and they're spreading this
crap like crazy. There's no symptoms, uh, it says, and
this makes the disease very hard to predict and hard
to control. And once again I said, a prion is
a misfolded protein that can make other proteins fold wrong
to and you can't kill them. I mean you just
you can't. And that's unsettling when you can't cook, you know,
you can't cook a problem away.
Speaker 7: So I think, yeah, good advice is don't eat organs.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's I guess. I don't really know what
the advice is. And I have there been human infections yet,
I don't know. I swear there was some in England
or somewhere, I swear. And there's different forms of prion diseases.
Speaker 7: So anyhow the brain, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: So the next one is this is interesting. Bird flocks
that defight Newton's Newton finally get explained, all right. Physicists
tackled a strange problem bird flocks, bacterial swarms in crowds,
and cell groups that behave as if they don't follow
Newton's third law. Right. Newton's third law is for every action,
there's an equal and opposite reaction. So whatever you're following
or whatever is behind you should have some effect on you, right,
all right, So here's this work. It's interesting. It says
you know, it's the old equal reaction role. A bird
may respond to bird besides it, beside it, or ahead
of it, but not to the birds behind it, okay,
so creating a one way interaction. Scientists call these non
reciprocal interactions the let's say they call these non reciprocal
interactions the new trick is wild Researchers add imaginary partner
variables to the math, basically fake birds so these systems
can be modeled more accurately. They fake partners that don't
exist in nature, but they let the equations behave as
if the system is reciprocal in plain English. To explain
real bird flocks, scientists had to invent ghost birds newtons.
Their law is forever. Yes, Now, if you understood that article,
you need to just go home and leave, shot your
computer off and just leave because you don't need us.
Like I read stuff like this and I kind of go,
I kind of get what they're talking about.
Speaker 7: Well, the model doesn't make sense unless they kind of
make up a fake bird sitting there. Yeah, it's well,
what that tells you is the birds have an extra
senses that aren't really apparently.
Speaker 5: Well, it's not just bird flocks, it's apparently bacterial swarms
and even crowds of people, so that apparently Newton's third
law does not apply to certain groups, is what they're
trying to figure out why it doesn't apply to groups,
and they and it works if they add a ghost person,
a ghost bird behind you. I don't know, I like, yeah,
moving on, moving on. My head's about to explode. And
then scientists expected a black hole, but they found a
star powered neutrino factory. Okay, astronomers tracing the high energy
neudrino signal to a distant, dusty galaxy. I didn't know
galaxies were dusty, named shadow Blaster, which is about eleven
billion light years away. Right. They expected a supermassive black
hole to be the power source, but that's usually what
gets blamed for the extreme cosmic particle activity. Instead, Alma
observations found the galaxy energy appears to come from an
intense star formation. The galaxy is so dust shrouded that
visible light can't easily reveal it, but the gravitational lensing
acted like a natural telescope that magnified the view. Cupooh,
my head's exploding. Researchers thing compact Dutch Dutch Yeah, it's
Dutch dust rich star burst galaxies like Shadow Blaster could
amount for as much as twenty percent of the universe's
high energy neutrinos. In summary.
Speaker 7: In the summary, it gives a damn.
Speaker 5: Scientists went looking for a black hole and found ghost
particle factory powered by baby stars.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, now Ember one, let's get ready, because we're
gonna have a test in all this. Yes, yes, and ready.
Speaker 5: Jeff's gonna give away a million, one million dollars in
an unverified crap T shirts.
Speaker 7: Unverified. It's an unverified contest.
Speaker 5: He's going to send you one hundred and eighty million
cases of T shirts.
Speaker 7: Verified. I can't verify that. No, not a contest.
Speaker 5: I'm just verified.
Speaker 7: It's not happening.
Speaker 5: All right, let's chat. Let's get out of the I
didn't do weird Fact of the Week because my week
was already too weird.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that sounds like it.
Speaker 5: That's the weird fact of the week. My week was weird.
That's it.
Speaker 7: That's a great week.
Speaker 4: I was on.
Speaker 9: I was there off Thursday Friday. I had a fantastic Well,
that's good, I'm glad you did. I even had a
work in Father's day today. Well you're working right now,
but you ain't got any.
Speaker 5: Kids, so you're not a father yet.
Speaker 7: But I called my dad, Yes, right, you had.
Speaker 5: To celebrate Father's Day with your father?
Speaker 7: Called my dad this morning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and what did you say to him?
Speaker 7: Happy Father's Day?
Speaker 5: Well that was creative.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the best you could come up with. Well,
well we chatted more than that, but yeah, that's why
I started out. That's good.
Speaker 5: Anyhow, All right, let's go into the little fake as
funk or is it fake or funk?
Speaker 7: Fake or funk? Let's find out is.
Speaker 4: It BS funk? Have we been bumped? Is it BS fakes?
Have we been bumped?
Speaker 5: All right, Oh, we gotta you can start putting up
comments now for this little and we have three clips yep,
so please stay whether you think it's fake, just put
fake or funk to be you know what you think?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 5: Clip one, I should say clip ff one. Sound is good?
Go ahead and play it. What is this? It's like
little fingers on there?
Speaker 7: That's odd.
Speaker 5: See like little means now that could be just somebody
under the water and just moving around with like black
gloves on. Play it again. Is it like like a
creature or is it somebody goofing on? I don't like
think I h o quoe like steamboats.
Speaker 7: Reaction just goes huh yeah, I don't understand, Kenny.
Speaker 5: Kenny says, funk.
Speaker 7: Something's flipping around back there. I don't know what. So
what the hell?
Speaker 5: I can't even I can't put comments up?
Speaker 7: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Did I get demoted? Apparently I did? I got demoted.
I'm demoted, Jeff, unless you can tell me?
Speaker 7: He both said, huh.
Speaker 5: So, I've got Elizabeth's funk slices. Funky fish.
Speaker 7: That's kind of what I think. I think it's probably
a fish flipping around.
Speaker 5: It was very funky funk. It's just a fishtail l
l and water water logged bird, probably going down for
his last time. It's a seahorse galloping.
Speaker 7: Yeah, who knows.
Speaker 5: Everybody's drinking beverages? Okay, clipped f F two And this
is interesting, couldn't play this? Is this all right, y'all?
Speaker 1: Allegedly behind me is Gilgamesh's ring.
Speaker 7: It's one of his rings.
Speaker 5: It's absolutely massive.
Speaker 1: Just imagine the being that could wear that and it
actually fits. They had to have been anywhere from twenty
to thirty feet tall. I think it's sterling silver.
Speaker 5: That's what you can.
Speaker 7: Says on that.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, what was it?
Speaker 7: Was it?
Speaker 8: What was it?
Speaker 5: His comment that it fit really nice?
Speaker 7: Well, nothing's been I don't think there's any physical artifacts
of Gilgamesh have been found.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying, but did you hear what he said?
He said it fit, it fits really nice? Yeah, how
would you know such a thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna go with bs.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, no no, no, it's fake
or it's funk or real funkunk fake, fake fake. You
guys are supposed to say funk, it's not fake, but
you Yeah, and then floating biggerfoot says a real deal.
He's probably kidding, but he might be really never know,
I mean none, we don't. Every guest is unverified crap.
Just saying.
Speaker 7: Yep, that's true, man, that's verified that it'sied. Crap. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Clip three. Now this is really interesting. Actually, you guys
went like this clip f f three. Even the dog
is weirded thout.
Speaker 7: My dog's weirded out.
Speaker 5: Even my dog knows something like that. Man. Okay, so
if you wanted to debunk that, you'd have to probably
find the clip and then go and see what other
clips a I puts in. That's the first thing I do, right.
In other words, if there's stuff floating in every one
of his clips, well then you know he's got that
string trick figured out. But the dog is looking at it.
So is that fagas funk or show?
Speaker 7: I mean, why would he focus more on what's in
the sky? You think it's real?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 5: Well, how do you think he did it? I don't know.
Is there a tree up there?
Speaker 7: Look? It just looks like an odd video.
Speaker 5: Okay, put up Michigan Sandman says it's a cloud branch.
Steamboat goes clunk, Kim says fake. He seems more interested
in his dog, which is weird. Slide foxes it's funny.
Loretta says it's a drone. Uh, Steamboat says monofilament looks
like a kite. Nope, just nope from Jen. Now that
dog has pt PTSD.
Speaker 7: I mean it looks like a branch hanging on something.
Speaker 5: Huh. Can you put up comments or you can't? You either?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I can't.
Speaker 5: How come I can't?
Speaker 7: I don't know what the hell is my deal?
Speaker 5: Did you take? Am? I am I powerless? I don't
know how come I my powers? My superpowers have been
taken away?
Speaker 7: No clue, I don't know why.
Speaker 5: All right, clip picks, we're done with the Vegas Funker.
What's the name of the segment called? I don't even
know facas funk that fake as? Is it? Bs?
Speaker 7: I think it should be b as fake? I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well what is it made?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 7: I don't know, I can't remember again, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Is its fund? Have we been pumped? Its bumps? Have
we been pumped?
Speaker 7: There? You go ask the guy who made the bumper.
Speaker 5: It's all I said was fake and funk punk. I
didn't say any about real, did I know? Never even
use the word reel.
Speaker 7: For some clips.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, let's do our clip picks. Clip one is
from Tim e Sewell. Give him good credit that he
captured this on one of his camera traps, and it's
a clip of word clip of a whole family of Couders.
Speaker 7: They're typically pretty solitary, aren't they.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah they are. But it's probably a family.
Speaker 7: Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 5: It's probably it's you know, I don't all only stay
with the kids stay with their mom, but I or
the cubs stay.
Speaker 7: With their mom. But that's pretty cool, probably thinking a
year and a half. Yeah, I've never seen that before.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's cool, Thank you, Tim. Clip two. This is interesting,
but you're gonna want to start it at the thirties
six second mark.
Speaker 10: That's the very beginning. You say, it's a ninety year
cover up. Just about Yeah, ninety years. Nineteen thirty three
was the first recovery in Europe. In Magenta, Italy, they
recovered a partially intact vehicle.
Speaker 11: It's long been known that the regime of dictator Benito
Mussolini documented numerous UAP during this time. This internal memo
from the Italian secret services includes crude drawings of the UAPs.
It's true, it's real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that actually happened.
Speaker 12: The Italian government moved it to a secure air base
in Italy for the rest of kind of the fascist
regime until nineteen forty four, nineteen forty five. And you know,
the Popie is the twelve back channel that sod yeah
and told the Americans what the Italians had, and we
ended up scooping it.
Speaker 11: After my conversation with David Grush, a News Nation producer travel.
Speaker 5: Anyhow, as you heard, that was David Crush, and he
has been so highly vetted, but he claimed the captured
the UFO in the thirties, so it's been a ninety
year cover up. And that's why I played it. I
heard that sound by.
Speaker 7: I heard that before either, No.
Speaker 5: Thinking about that. Can you I mentionine Thember having a
UFO in the thirties, Yeah, I mean he's wanting to
drive allays right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, thirty three was Yeah. Still let fabric covered airplanes
in thirty three.
Speaker 5: That'd be like that'd be like you, you know, giving
your iPhone to a caveman and having thinking naked reverse
engineer it. It would be no different.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh god.
Speaker 5: Let's see what do we got next. Let's see here
Clip three. This is about the magic of nine. It's math,
but it's interesting, sure, but really interesting.
Speaker 7: Go ahead.
Speaker 13: There's a number with a missing digit and it does
something impossible. It starts with something simple, the digits one
through nine, but someone removed the eight, just deleted it.
What's left is twelve million, three hundred and forty five thousand,
six hundred and seventy nine. And this is where the
magic begins. Watch what happens When you multiply it by nine,
you get one hundred eleven million, one hundred eleven thousand,
one hundred eleven nine ones in a perfect row. That's strange,
but it gets stranger. Times nine, all ones, double that,
times eighteen, all twos, keep going, all threes, all fours,
all fives, all sixes, all sevens, all eights, and all nines.
Every multiple of nine gives you a wall of identical digits.
This number is not random, it's designed. So why does
this work? Think about it backwards? Take one hundred eleven million,
eleven thousand, eleven divine.
Speaker 7: Huh Yeah, number theory gets pretty wild.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just like, I don't want people to go.
Speaker 7: There's going to be a test at the end.
Speaker 5: No, All right? Clip four is you know we all
know data centers are coming to a place near you.
That's going to happen, and it's because of AI and
a lot of people. They've been talking about water use
and talking about the power use. But what about this.
Let's into the sound of a data center.
Speaker 6: This is the delarge.
Speaker 14: It's very small, but here's a noise.
Speaker 5: Can you be a tone?
Speaker 7: Yuck?
Speaker 5: All right, that's enough.
Speaker 7: That's unpleasant.
Speaker 5: That's kind of unpleasant, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: What could go wrong? There? They're gonna build them right
in there, bringing your back your yard there. No thank you,
I could hurt property values.
Speaker 7: No you think I think it could?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 7: Last one, I.
Speaker 5: Guess we need them. Last clip clip five. Tall isn't
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Those guys might be the tallest guys I've ever seen
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As they walked forward, the scale of their size became
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Speaker 7: Yeah, where are they at?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Wow, that's crazy, I.
Speaker 5: Didn't But Earth is full of all sorts of sizes
of people, I guess or and so I mean it
just is. You know, people talk about Bigfoot being really big. Well, man,
those guys are big. I mean that's kind of what.
I don't know t all they were, But what do
you think seven foot? At least twelve almost eight foot?
Speaker 7: I mean those are probably guess over seven for sure.
Those are big guys. He smokes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Elizabeth says, take him squatching. I say, I
have to read them because I can't post them. Maybe
I have to text Alex find out. I feel taking
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Speaker 7: Should we take a quick break and bring on Ron?
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do a really quick break and then we're
going to bring on Ron and uh, we will be
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Speaker 7: We're back, You're on the rock side. There we go.
Speaker 5: I'm glad I'm on the right side. I figured out
kind of mab me, what's wrong? I think I'm just
like a guest. I think I got booted. I got
logged out somehow with some new update. But there was
a crew from the BBC here and there. These guys
were doing all sorts of crazy setups here, and I
don't know what Some got moved or required or reconfigured.
So I apologize, and I can't so you, Jeff, We've
got to post a ton of comments up.
Speaker 7: Too much responsibility.
Speaker 5: No, just do it, do it, do it.
Speaker 7: There we go. I'm very.
Speaker 5: Anyhow, I got a good crowd. And so Ron Howes.
He's more than just a bigfoot researcher. He is the
founder of Believing Yourself Fight Against the PTSD, which is
a platform and a Facebook page that's dedicated to raising
awareness and support for those who are battling PTSD, which
includes veterans, first responders as well as members of the
cryptid research community. Though it is larger than life character
bike biker Bigfoot or bike Bigfoot. Yeah well, it says
bike Bigfoot, biker Bigfoot. Ron brings fun, conversation and healing
to those who need it most. So he says his
journey into bigfoot research begin at a young age of thirteen,
where he had a life changing encounter with a massive,
hairy creature in the woods. And I'm going to leave
it there. Yeah, and we can let Ron tell his
own damn story. Me apparently I'm a guest me read it.
I like being I kind of like being a guest.
I don't have to do anything. Ah, So here's run.
Speaker 7: Is either.
Speaker 4: Hi guys.
Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, Oh jeezs what do we got now? Apparently
run's vent trill a Crystalso how are we doing? Good? Yeah?
Just me and Ron just got off the phone and
we covered a lot of ground in like thirty minutes,
didn't we?
Speaker 15: Yes, And I said, normally a lot longer than that.
But I got a lot of stories to tell.
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 5: Okay, where in the hell do we begin? Okay, I
know where we're gonna begin. You were thirteen, you had
an encounter. I don't know what that encounter was. I
don't think a lot of people do. Do you want
to share it as you can either go into every
little damn detailer you can do it the quick way.
Speaker 15: Well, it's pretty simple. It's a quick way.
Speaker 5: First.
Speaker 15: I just want to say happy Father's data. Everybody else, Yeah,
thank you guys for having me on. Really wonderful having
you guys reach out to me to come on here.
So going into the adventure that I started, everything that's
going on in my life, I was thirteen years old
on the family farm and I'm fifty two years old,
so thirteen years old. Back then, we had three Weeller motorcycles.
If you guys remember those. So I'm riding around on
the farm and there's like this trail that I would
always take, and I'm heading back into the woods, and
there's this entrance that I would always go into, and
at this time, this particular day, I just felt something
strange and I stopped way before I got to the
entrance of the woods, and I shut my bike off
and I'm just looking around and I was like, oh
my gosh, right where I was going to be heading,
there is a big foot standing there.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 15: And thirteen years old, you know, back in these days,
I didn't know at all what I was looking at,
but I remember the description of it is just I
went back the next day and I was like getting
a visual of like where it was against the trees
and the branches and everything, and it was ten foot tall,
broad shoulders, no neck as we know, and the red
eyes which really stood out, and it growled at me.
Now it kind of feared me. You know, thirteen years old,
you're going to be scared and hoping that my bike
would start because it was a pool start. And I
got on that thing and I went back home, and
it took me a little bit to figure out things
I mean, you know, I was scared of the Bogeyman
back those days, you know, So I would ask people questions.
I didn't know where to turn to find out anything,
and I'd tell people about this story and they were
just like write me off as crazy, like, oh, you
didn't see what you saw. You saw, You're just using
your imagination, blah blah blah blah blah. Years going by,
I'm just telling the story, trying to figure this thing out.
I'm going in and I'm reading whatever I could in
the library, and then finally TV shows started coming about,
and right about this time, it was probably right. I
was graduated in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 7: Two, and.
Speaker 15: There was a news report right where I live right now,
in days Oftown, Pennsylvania, which is only fIF ten minutes
away from the farm I grew up on. They had
there was an investigation that was on the news, and
I believe it was Mary rob Jackson. I can't remember
what channel she was on, and she took the news print.
There was all kinds of investigators, police and everything. There
was sightings, there was footprints, all kinds of stuff that
did all kinds of analysies. The California College down the
road they came up with some of their technical equipment
and didn't you know, impressions and stuff like that, just
to get an analysis of what it was. So, you know,
I kept on listening to this, and everybody's like, oh,
it's just fake. You know, somebody was out there with
a footprint on the bottom of their feet. And well,
you know, years later, I have moved in here and
still got this childhood sighting in my mind and all
this stuff that I've been looking up trying to figure
out what was going on in my life and why
I had seen this, and is there more of them?
And you know, here I am fifteen miles from my
childhood sighting. They're living in these woods back here. They're
still here to this day because eleven years ago when
I moved here, I knew I moved into the area,
and a bunch of people that I know around here
they took me up to the top of the hill
where the investigation was where they found the footprints and
the trails and everything. And we're up there looking around
and I'm getting an idea of all the story and
everything a little bit better. And so one night I'm
sitting on my porch I heard along sustained how and
a couple of days later, I'm back in the woods,
back here, and I found footprints, I found shelter, I
found markings on trees, and I'm in there in the dark,
and I'm doing loops and stuff trying to get this
some kind of a response. And sure enough I got
a response. I had wooden knocks and.
Speaker 5: All around. And how old were you when you started
actually doing that?
Speaker 15: Old I would say I was in my twenties.
Speaker 5: Okay, so it's like seven, eight, nine, ten years later,
twelve years later.
Speaker 15: Ok Well, when I was graduating, I was about eighteen.
And then it was a couple of years after that
that I, you know, I was really getting into more
research out in the field. I mean, I was always
a woodsy person because growing up on the farm, I
was always in the woods.
Speaker 5: And this is and this is in Pennsylvania, yes, okay,
all right, keep going.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and uh and where I'm at now is still
in Pennsylvania. And so, you know, going back and forth
between these these different stories, it's all kind of tying
together because it's just like over the years from you know,
my childhood up until I graduated, you know, hearing reports
and seeing one for myself and then moving here. After
how many years I was up into Pennsylvania Mountains if
you know where the Apple well, not the Appalachian but
the Mount Davis, one of the highest points in Pennsylvania.
I had gone up there for probably fifteen years, camping
up there with a bunch of people and fishing and
you know the boys, you know, there would be his
fathers and son trip basically, and the boys would come
over to me and they're like, hey, you know, can
we go out squatching? Because they knew I was into
this real big and I was like, yeah, sure, let's
jump in a truck. We went out logging trails, We
would go do stuff. Things would happen, and you know,
it's just over that time period, just like more and
more information's coming at me, more and more things that
I'm learning from nature. And that's something that I use
whenever i'm speaking, is you know, going into nature is
one of the most wonderful places to heal, and that's
why I love being there. But you know, going back
to this, you know, I'm back there trying to find
where this howl came from. And you know, I'm standing
back there and I'm doing these whoops, trying to get
a response, I'm getting knocks, And after a while it
was like, okay, I'm done with you, and it started stomping.
But I'll tell you what, the first time that ever
happened to me, you could feel it, the vibration in
the air when it just stomped. Just the size of
these things and the power that they have, it's just amazing.
And just learning some of the things that we learned
from what we have done, investigations, information coming from other people,
from reports and stuff like that. Just being able to
learn more about them. I mean, you know, one hundred percent,
we don't know. We really don't know what these things are,
why they're here, what they want from us. But just
being able to learn the tip of the iceberg of
what we have. It's just been an amazing journey because
if you look at the whole Bigfoot world, it has
grown so much that there are so many people out
there that are that are coming forward with their sightings.
There's more and more TV shows, there's a whole collaboration.
It's like a community. And what I tell people is
it's just like how my life has changed is because
of Bigfoot, Like I've gotten to know so many people.
I've became friends slash family to people, and just the
amount of knowledge that I've learned from everybody else.
Speaker 5: What if I'm just I'm just throwing out a diarrhye
of thought here. What if Bigfoot is to only purposes
to bring people together? I have actually never thought of that.
Speaker 15: I have expressed that thought. I wholly believe that this
entity we can call because there's so many factors out
there that people believe that they're interdimensional, they're they're alien,
they're you know, their flesh and blood, like you know,
we don't know one hundred percent. But the way I
look at it is, look at the human race. We
have multiple nationalities, we have multiple creeds, we have multiple
religions all over the world. Not one of us is
the same. So if you could go and look at
their world and say, just like you and I talked
about earlier, like there are good people and they're bad people,
you know, And I don't necessarily call bad people bad.
It's just that they've done something wrong in their life
and they've been stigmatizedly called bad. But you know, there's
been the question asked like, Okay, are these bigfoots or
sasquatch a bad entity or a bad creature or monster
so to speak.
Speaker 5: We don't know.
Speaker 15: But the interactions that we've had, a lot of them
have been good, and there's only been a handful of bad.
I mean, look at the Russian YETI story. I mean
that they're trying to write that off. But you know,
there are some instances where people say that all that
things came after me, or it's trying to keep you
away from something number one that they don't want you
to find because they want to be left alone. Another thing,
I've heard so many stories where humans been in distress,
being lost in the woods. The bigfoots have guided them out.
They use a little bit of a fear factor to
get them to get moving, but you know it's still
they're guiding them. Right.
Speaker 5: Well, when I mentioned that, right this thought of maybe
the purpose is so we meet certain other people, So
they show their self to two people. Those people then
end up meeting. And it was amazing all the comments
of people going that's plausible. It was just amazed at
the reaction because it was just to me a diarrhea thought.
You know, but the world works in weird way, But
would you thought you hadn't even thought about that at
one time.
Speaker 15: Yes, absolutely, because just looking at my journey in the
last five years, ever since I became public, it's changed
my world. The amount of like I said, I'll say
it again, it's just the amount of people that I
have grown to know is just amazing. And everybody's been
so wonderful. I mean, you have anywhere you go, you're
gonna have certain amount of people that you're gonna have
trouble with. But for the for the most part of it,
it's just been a wonderful thing being able to meet people.
I mean, if it wasn't for Bigfoot, I wouldn't have
met my wife.
Speaker 7: That's great, you know, Yeah, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 5: There's a great example. Now it's kind of weird if
you think about it.
Speaker 7: I've met some great people too.
Speaker 5: And why I never that never occurred to me because
I have pondered over that, why do some of us
see these things and others don't. And also I was
gonna mention alex Is in my studio at this very moment,
getting me all back to normal, and I'm watching him
work and the stuff he's pushing more buttons. I don't
know if he's done it. Let's look here, maybe me.
Speaker 7: He disappeared. We had a question, Uh me back up here,
David ellis up? There was Dave. There's Dug back just
staying on here. I'm sorry, not not really.
Speaker 5: Some is all messed up anyhow, Hang on here, hold on,
so you just keep going. I can hear y'all.
Speaker 7: I can. Yeah, there was a question. Uh, there we go.
So this howl that you heard, was it like the
Ohio hall or something else? He familiar with the Ohio.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I am familiar with it, but no, it was
it was more not of a howl, but more of
a whoo, kind of a long sustained how I know,
the Ohio hows are are a little bit of a
different tone difference. But again, you just look at the
different names that we have all over the country and
all over the world for the different versions of Big Play.
Their their voices are gonna be same, just like our
voices are different, you know, or they're not going to
be the same. So, I mean, you would imagine, you know,
if they're they're gonna make a howl, you know, they're
not gonna sound the same. They have different vocal tones.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 15: There was research done that. It was on one of
the documentaries that I just watched not long ago where
they found that there was two tones in their voice.
There was an instance where I was out doing research
and we had a knock in an area where we
were just at and we were around the other side
of a lake and we heard this knock. So I
was like, Okay, I'm going to head back to that
to check check it out to see if there's any
evidence of it being there. Well, and I They followed behind,
but I was a lot quicker because I wanted to
get there to see if I can catch the creature.
Right by the time I got there, there was a
knock right where they were just at, and I was like, guys,
should just stay there. But I investigated the area where
I believe that it came from. I checked all the
trees around, there was no damage to the bark. So
it's a theory that I had had put in. Knowing
that these bigfoots have two vocals in one at one time,
what's to say that they're not making that knock noise
with their mouth.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think that's pretty plausible too, because it's the
thing I've talked about a lot is. I mean, imagine
the size of that chess cavity. That chess cavity can project.
You know, not only the size of the chess cavity,
but the length of the vocal corts. Animal that big
is going to have humongous vocal cords. What can generate
sounds that we can't replicate. So yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 15: The fact that they can mimic, which you know, I've
I've just recently witnessed. I mean it's been multiple times,
but just recently I was out in an investigation with
Jason Kinzie and we we were we were in the
back hills of West Virginia, and we heard what we
thought were owls, but then it turned totally into chimpanzee
like sounds. And then there was another instance where we
heard what sounded like a coyote but more human like,
and then it broke out into a and of actual coyotes.
It's just amazing how they can just make those changes.
But you have to be careful too, because there's also
dark entities in these woods that you gotta be careful
that you're not calling out, because I've had things mimic
what you could misconstrue as a Bigfoot, but there's no
trace of any Bigfoot being around.
Speaker 5: Well, let's talk about that for a minute of ron
once again. I haven't thought about that one either. So
you're thinking there are some kind of like some kind
of energy beans. I mean, what category would you put
these non bigfoot entities that mimic Bigfoot in the forest?
What would you call them? Uh?
Speaker 15: Well, they're demonic uh negative energies.
Speaker 5: But is there a name for him? Is there a
Do you have a nickname for them? I don't, Jeff
think of one real quick?
Speaker 8: Is it?
Speaker 15: My My wife nicknamed them bubbles because we don't like
to say the actual name of what they are because
calling attention to them, and you don't want to call
attention to them. So it's basically you're recognizing them. Just
me talking about it right now.
Speaker 5: Okay, But these are these are like more like trickster
entities that are mimicking Bigfoot? And are those the ones
that maybe would account for the the ones that don't
leave footprints, take apples without being photographed, leavy pound on
houses without being seen or without in other words, without
being recorded, like Adam had here a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 15: But we're also still looking at the idea that Bigfoot's
possibly interdimensional and spiritual, and I can contest to the
spiritual part of it because I was in the mountains. Again,
I do a lot of research in Mount Davis. I
was in this one area camping and we were cooking dinner,
and I just called out to the spirits, the Bigfoot spirits,
and I welcomed them to dinner. And I had a
couple Native American sensitives with me, and all of a sudden,
there's five ten foot tall bigfoot standing in front of me.
But my eyes were wide open. I could see the
woods and everything, but they were standing there and I
turned and looked at them and I says, am I
seeing what I think I'm seeing? And they said, if
you're seeing five ten foot tall bigfoots.
Speaker 7: Yes, wow.
Speaker 15: So there is definitely an aspect of spiritual side of
Bigfoot and though, and that's what I call out to
whenever I go into nature. So there's a recent documentary
that just came out with Jason Kinsey searching for Sasquatch
that I did with him. It's called The Mothman, and
in there I describe something that a Native American taught
me it's grounding. And by grounding is you're just you're
entering the woods. Before you enter, you put your feet
out of your shoes onto the ground and just take
in nature. Well, I have neuropathy, so that's not happening
for me. So what I do is I hold on
to a tree and I just I feel the energy
from the tree, and I just I welcome nature and
I let it know that I'm there for no harm,
and that just giving positive vibes basically. And there's times
where I've been in situations where I've felt very very
uneasy because I'm getting too close to something. I actually
i was playing peek a boo with a juvenile and
whenever I called out and said that I come in peace.
I know that's kind of cliche, that's a kind of
a UFO thing, but I come in peace. I'm here
to welcome with you. If you feel, you know, comfortable
enough to come forward to meet me, I am open
to that. And I just keep repeating I am not
here for any harm. You know a lot of people
will ask me like, well, you know there's other things
out in the woods like bears and tigers and tigers,
but cougars and wolves and stuff like that. Don't you
carry a gun? I'm like, no, I don't, because a
firearm on your side means harm. I mean, they can
smell the gunpowder. So yes, I do carry a couple
of knives with me. It's it is for safety.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 15: You can get into situation where you fall in something
and you have to cut your way out or whatever. Uh,
but I don't. I don't carry a weapon and people
call me crazy for that, but I just I project
the peace. I have not had one problem yet where
I've run into a situation where I'm being attacked by something.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, you had mentioned that you can smell gun
powder cose that's unverified, but it's a theory.
Speaker 15: It is a theory, yes, yes, right right right, you know,
it's it's a lot of information that I've gotten from
a few different Native Americans that they you know, they
they tell me some of the old ways and stuff
like that. That's one thing that I really strive to
learn is from the Native Americans because of the connection
that they once had with the sass Watch. So it's
you know, and being that I reach out to veterans
and you know, working with everybody with PTSDs, like I've
always been about the code talkers. I know, we just
lost our last code talker not too long ago. I
think he was like one hundred and two or something.
But you know, it's just, you know, Native Americans have
been a long time reach for everything in this country.
So that's where I reach too when I have certain
questions that I want to get answered. And with that
same thing in the Mount Davis area where I would
go hiking with the boys to take them out and
go bigfooting, we were in an area where we had
talked to the locals and they says, oh, yeah, if
you go off this one trail, you're going to walk
into an area that you're going to feel uneasy, like
you're getting pushed out. And it's because of the spirits
of the Native Americans and the spirits of the bigfoots
and stuff will are protecting this area. And I said, okay, well,
what's the reasoning behind that? And they said, oh, because
there's burial grounds up there. So on our hike, little
did I know, we walked right into the middle of it.
Because Mother Nature basically put a canopy over this so
it would be hidden. And let me tell you it
was really interesting to be able to see something like
this in the wild. You hear about it. I've been
to places where you can see them publicly, but never
someplace out in the woods where you're investigating. And there
was probably thirty of them. Now I've introduced the possibility
of why some of the Indian burial grounds that I've
seen are so large. While that also steps over into
where we haven't found any remains of the bigfoots. Well,
what a theory that I have is take the size
of the burial mounds, take the history between the Native
Americans and the Bigfoots, and take the knowledge that we
haven't found any remains. I'm thinking it's possible that they
were buried together to hide the remains because it's such
a sacred area, you know, it's it's it's a theory.
Speaker 7: Interesting sure, less the idea.
Speaker 15: Of using maybe light or to examine the burial grounds.
There's no other way to find out. I mean, they
are they are protected. You know, you don't want to
just create a Native American barrier grounds just to be
able to find the evidence of Bigfoot or not find
the evidence of Bigfoot. But it's it is a theory
that I will looked at because I walked it off
and again, I'm six foot two, and I look at
the fact that Native Americans weren't so tall back in
the time that they did these burial grounds, So why
would the barer grounds be so big? They oversized me
at my height.
Speaker 7: So I don't know.
Speaker 15: It's it's very interesting thought that I had about that.
And I mean, maybe one day I'll be able to
examine it, you know, with without repercussions. You know, i'd
get permission from somebody to be able to do a
lot to our examination on these Maybe that'll give us
some truths. Yeah, there are cavess all around that area
as well, so you know, it's very very possible that
what we saw is living in these cave systems.
Speaker 7: We did.
Speaker 15: We did have one surrounding us while we were in
the truck. At one point, the boys got a little
bit scared and they jump back in the truck. That's like,
I just saw something very big. But it's it's been
such a passion of mine to be able to go
out there and learn more about these creatures. And it's
been such a passion to be able to help people,
you know, just like we were saying about how Bigfoot
brings people together.
Speaker 5: That is that is one.
Speaker 15: Uh an idea that I love using that because it
is truly working that way. Just like I said that
I I you know, I worked with Jason Kinsey on
this documentary. Uh he pulled me in because we were
supposed to do an event together. Things happened and we
weren't able to do it. But once I met my
now wife, we started planning a wedding and we were
doing it in an inch interesting way because we were
including cryptids in our wedding. And being that I'm biker Bigfoot,
I do goofy things, and I'll go up to anybody
and just try to make them laugh. It's kind of
like my clown costume. I looked at it that way
for the longest time, and uh, yep, there it is.
I I looked at it as my clown costume because
it was basically my mask to be able to be
a different person. It's kind of like an alter ego. Sure,
And whenever I came up with the idea of doing this,
there was an event, my very first event that I
ever showed up to, and there's me and my wife
and my dog.
Speaker 7: I love it.
Speaker 15: Yeah, we were visiting her mom and dad and we
decided to surprise them with our costume story behind that
one here in a minute. So whenever we started planning
the wedding, Jason contacted me and he says, hey, how
about I come video your wedding. I was like absolutely,
So it just went from there. Yeah, a little bit
of a big bike or Bigfoot GQ pictures. That's awesome, So,
you know, it just it all went from there. So
Jason and I went out on some adventures and he's like, hey,
you know, we're I'm going to film this documentary with
you in it, and if you go find it, it's
on YouTube right now, and if you go find it,
it tells the story about what I do with bike
or Bigfoot. What I you know, why I use it.
I dressed up in this costume to go to an
event because it was the very first event that I
ever went to. It was maybe ten minutes away from
where I live, and I thought, what the heck, you know,
just throw the costume on, jump on the bike. I
was a Legion rider at the time. I threw my
vest on, I threw my chaps on, so my costume
wouldn't get bird on the bike, and I threw the
helmet on, and biker Bigfoot was born. And that's how
I looked when I rode into the place. Now, mind you,
I gave them hints that there was gonna be a
big Foot showing up. I just didn't tell them that
there was gonna be a biker big showing up. So
I don't know if you know who less Odell is.
He's one of the leading researchers in West Virginia. He
was doing his presentation when I rolled in, and this
isn't an outside park in hill Or, Pennsylvania, and I
come run. I came right around to Ben and rolled
right up to the area. Show shut down. Everybody come
running over wanting pictures. Less O'Dell comes over and he's like, man,
I had to meet this guy, this crazy guy coming
in on a bike in a costume. I literally rode
from my house with the costume one just so it's
you know, right there. It was right from the start.
When I jumped on that bike and took down off
down the road, it was, you know, magic was happening.
Because I just wanted to get people's reactions. And it
is really a positive fun thing. I purposely did not
go straight to the show. I went to the local
cast station and pretended to get gas in my bike.
Just people's reactions and so yeah, but I showed up
the show lesson, I met, you know, the the Fat
County Researchers organization. I know I'm saying that wrong. I'm sorry.
I can't ever say it right because it's such a
long title. But you know, that was the first time
I got into an actual show by accident. Because I
did this, and it went from there. I just kept
on going to shows and kept on going to shows,
and the next thing, you know, I don't know if
you knew who Fred Saluta was. He was actually the
founder of that group and he was also in move On.
He just recently passed away this past fall.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 15: He was kind of a mentor for me, and once
he learned that I had a cause behind my costume,
He's like, get up there. I want to hear this story.
I want everybody to hear the story. So the next
event came up available. It was in sutt In, West Virginia,
and less O'Dell contacts me and he says, hey, why
don't you come down down here? And tell your story
about your PTSD and stuff and bring bring your bike
or Bigfoot thing. So he yeah, I packed up the
bike and I rode down down to West Virginia and
rolled into the show and got smiles and pictures and
stories and it's just it's been amazing. Oh yeah, I
went the Fallout this year. They brought Fallout Jamboree to
West Virginia because if you've ever played the video game,
they have four West Virginia clip cryptids in it. And
that that's Davy for the TV show Lar I had
to meet him. He's one of my favorites from the show.
But he absolutely loved Bike r Bigfoot, as you can
see an expression on his face.
Speaker 7: That's fun.
Speaker 15: But I rolled into that crowd the same way I
did to the Bigfoot show, and the media was inside
and come running out the door to come get pictures
and videos of me. It's like it's just turned into
a phenomenon. And there's Kenny. He's the curator of it
from Nevada and he plays a role too. He's the
doctor from the TV show. That's his character that he's
playing that day. But I know I'm gonna be working
with them again. I already contact him about getting back
in it and again. But they're going to be back
in West Virginia in two years, in twenty twenty eight.
But something else too. Where where did where did Doug go?
Speaker 7: Doug? I think Doug's having some tech issues he had
he uh he related again. But let's talk about I'd
like to hear. So, how did you get involved with
the PTSD stuff?
Speaker 15: Okay, so throughout my life obviously, you know, thirteen years old,
I'm getting ridiculed talking about this creature that I saw.
And uh, it just you know, I was being bullied
in school. It's just multiple things over my life happened,
and it just caused me a lot of anxiety. And
I went, I talked to a doctor and this and that,
and they they they worked with me and stuff, and
you know, found out that I had an anxiety disorder,
which is a form of PTSD, and just it just
kept going, keeps going, keeps going. Just like throughout life.
Multiple things happened, relationships, failing, just other things happen in life. Jobs,
I was in the military for a short period of time.
That created an issue just in my mind, thinking that
I failed, you know, and whenever I went to go
join the Legion. You know, if you know, the Legion
will go to follow members of the military to their funerals. Well,
I ended up being in different positions of command in there.
And when I started seeing these these funerals where in
one year I had four suicides.
Speaker 5: I was like, my gosh.
Speaker 15: You know, whenever I heard the story about this one
boy that we went to he was only twenty two
years old that committed suicide. He had everything going for him.
But what people don't think about is what's going on
in somebody's head that they will take it to the
limit and make that decision to end their life. And
it is very hard if you have stressors that's pushing
you into negative part of your mind, and then you
have no support system and you have people out there
just doing this jab basically verbally jabbing at you, it
could really push you over the edge. So, you know,
four funerals for suicide. And then I went to Pittsburgh
to get a tattoo and a young soldier sits down
next to me to get his work done too, And
I had already heard his story. The man was missing
one finger off of his hand. Now, why was that
because he was out on the battlefield and they were
going from one area to another, and they, you know,
they're all lined up going through all of his brothers
in the other trucks. RPG came in and took out
the whole platoon except for him. Now they call that
survivor syndrome. You're living with the guilt of the loss
of your fellow brothers and why am I still here?
Speaker 13: You know?
Speaker 15: And then of course you're missing that digit you're looking
at your hand every day. It's a reminder. Two weeks
after I met this young man, he committed suicide.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 15: I was like, man, if only I could have talked
to him, you know, and and I and I beat
myself up for it for a little while.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna I was just gonna mention Ron,
we're gonna get flagged and the episode removed. If that
word is used too many times, Oh what the words
with the s just not allowed to say it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you think about self harm? Yeah we
got to be self harm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so just find another word.
Speaker 15: Okay, Well I'm done saying it anyways. So just just
knowing that people have these thoughts, I had to make
a change. I wanted to make a big change. I
know that there's other groups out there that were doing
something about it, but I thought, you know, what would
be the harm of having one more person? And that's
whenever I took my character and I took my commands,
and I took everything that I learned and I put
it together and I started this mission, the Believe in
Yourself right against PTSD, and so I just I just
started using that. I started using my character to be
able to get out there and get that awareness to people.
And it was really resonating with people. I did have
the questions like, well, why this this and this put together?
I said, well, first of all, why not. I'm a
unique individual. I don't do things the normal way. So
just like I brought something together that was unique and
it really resonated. And I have been pulled all over
the place to do events because of how I do things,
and and people love whenever I'm in costume. Like I
had mentioned earlier, it's kind of like it's my clown costume.
It was able to get me to open up and
be the person that I know I can be, and
and then it started to just be such regular thing
that once it took the costume off. I'm still a goofball,
so you know, and it's people love getting pictures with
me because I do crazy things in the pictures just
to get everybody to laugh.
Speaker 5: And uh, well let me interrupt you, Ron, Yeah, Ron,
just for a second here. So you have people that
come up to you, both they could be you know,
it may not have anything to do with cryptids, but
if you had many crypti people that have had encounters
that have approached you and I have talked to you
and you've gotten them help.
Speaker 15: Yes, yeah, So Gwynolne Purcell's in one instance, she started
off in paranormal world and now she's in the Bigfoot works.
This is a perfect example of you're in one field
studying one thing, and then something else happens and you
end up in another part of it. Yeah, and again
you know there's Bigfoot bringing people together when you're out.
You don't even have to be out doing research, just
being out and hunters. There's been many times that I've
had people tell me that they were out hunting. They're
sitting in a tree stand and something strange goes walking
by that they plain, nine times out of ten it's bigfoot.
But there's been other things like spectrums orbs. When I
say spectrums, I mean paranormal And it's not out of
the realm for somebody to see different things when you're
out looking for other things, right, you know, I haven't
witnessed it yet, but you know there's like the tall man,
the what's oh, jeez, I can't think the name of it,
the white human looking thing that always crawls on all fours,
the rake, yes, the rake. I mean, people have witnessed
these things. What are the shape shifters? They look like
humans and they're calling out. This is another thing that
I was saying about hearing things that are mimicking things.
They'd call out your name, Yeah, I've heard my name
in the woods. It's it's really weird whenever there's nobody
else around. But you don't answer that call because you
never know what it is. But you know, people bringing
to me these stories, they're telling me that I don't
want to go back simply because they had this encounter
or this sighting. It fears them. Nothing happened, but they
still feel the fear of maybe that things still there.
Speaker 5: Because just having somebody to talk to or making a
new friend to help people.
Speaker 15: Oh, absolutely for my personal example, for me to be
able to do what I'm doing is helping me because
I'm able to express what has happened to me, share
my story with people and get them to open up.
That is just a world of change for me. Let
alone the people that are coming to me and talking
to me about things.
Speaker 5: Right, can we what's what I want to do? Roun
back up a little bit, Let's talk about why a
bigfoot encounter would even cause PTSD. They didn't get attacked
probably in most cases. Is it the the utter destruction
of your worldview instantly? Is that what doesn't do you
think or what do you hear?
Speaker 8: How?
Speaker 15: That could be one aspect, definitely, because we're programmed to
think that there's nothing out there like that, right, and
then something just as right there It changes their perspective
on things. But then there's also it goes to the
other side of things, as the fear factor, like Okay,
what is that monstrous? It looks scary to people, you know,
it looks like a big teddy bear to me, I want.
Speaker 5: To go hug it.
Speaker 15: But it's it is. It is definitely multiple sides of things.
It depends on the person on how their their mind
processes it.
Speaker 5: Well, I got to I did get a chance, and
we were filming for legitimate science, and we had a
therapist here and the goal was to bring in five
people that definitely had PTSD from their encounters. Many of
them didn't know all of the details many of them had.
They had more than one person there, and they lived
through something very scary, and the idea was to have
a therapist hypnotize them to bring out what want, memories
that they had forgotten. But I can tell you this
that I was surprised actually at the level of PTSD
people had, because when I heard their tears and screams
and them remembering things, they little details they didn't remember.
There was I don't want to, you know, give everything
away in a lot of cases, but but these people
really were crying, really were emotional, yes, and it was powerful.
I was like, wow, you know.
Speaker 15: Those people digression therapy is what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not a therapist. I'm just a you know,
a producer who was you know, watching all of this
go down. And we had you know, like four cameras
filming each thinking. The therapists spent like a long time
with them ahead of time as to not damage, you know,
to make sure no damage occurred during the hypnosis and
so on. But it was just to bring them back
in time, yes, farther and farther back in time, to
bring out memories. But it was just my first hand
realization that TSD from a big foot encounter is a
real thing. I didn't And it was interesting to get
to the reason why they were so scared to hear
them going, you know, like if they were little, like
young kids, and there were there was one case where
it was two gals that were quite young. They were
at their parents' trailer alone and this thing stepped out
and then it was kind of what they both went
through mentally and you know, thinking, and then it came
in the trailer when in the trailer like during the night,
and they're just I mean, it was it was insane
with these these gals went through and these these were
these people were from them. They were in the military.
I mean, they were enlisted in the military. These were
not like, you know, mushy wanna be babies. These were
tough ladies. And yet to hear the ordeal that.
Speaker 15: Military people tell me encounters that they've had on bases.
Oh yeah, and it's it is amazing. Well, it's it
is amazing to hear. At the same time, it's not
unusual because of location, is everything, right? I mean, you
know there's bases that I've been told about from different
stories where they were like deep into the woods.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 15: You see some of these documentaries people are out walking
around and they're investigating things and they found old bunkers.
You know, there's military installations all over the place that
we don't know about. So you know, if somebody's out
there and they're you know, when they were in working times,
you know, they're out securing the grounds, something comes in
that they're not used to seeing. Yeah, it could, most definitely.
I mean, especially if you're in its territory. It might
throw stuff at you. It might growl in such a
way that infrasound happens it makes you sick. I mean,
I haven't heard that happen yet, but I've heard of well,
I mean RPG had that happen to him.
Speaker 5: But it's just.
Speaker 15: There's a lot of things that we don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, there seems to be so many sides to
the the fear. I remember, you know, being young and
like watching legend about Boggy Creek, Oh yeah, and having
fear of the dark for quite a while after that movie.
And so yeah, they're just I mean, that's one aspect,
the unknown, as an aspect, the fact in real life
they're huge. They're not supposed to exist. Monsters are real.
Where I was told, you know, growing oh, go to
bad monsters aren't real, you know what I mean.
Speaker 15: Yeah, there's so many.
Speaker 5: Aspects to the trauma, and I do think a good
part of it is is the why too, Like why
why are they? Yeah? Why why did they? Why did
this thing confront me? Why did it follow me? Why? Why?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 5: Why was it trying to kill me? They never know?
Speaker 15: Right, Well, I can tell you the rest of the
story about my childhood, order yeah, please please, So after
all these years of not knowing why I was able
to see this thing at this at that age, like
everybody under asked the question, why we just we were
just saying that. Well, over some time of explaining this
story to certain people recently that past couple of years,
a sensitive Native American blood had told me that they
reached out to some ancestors and got some answers for me.
I wholeheartedly believe that this answer is the truth. The
Bigfoot stopped me from going into the woods because there
was something else in those woods that's gonna harm me.
So it's by chance sometimes that we see these things,
and sometimes it's not. It's just like everything else in life.
You know, everything happens for a reason. There are certain
stages that we have to go through in life, whether
they're good or bad, to get where we're supposed to be.
And you know, telling my story that I've gone through
for the last five years is basically a test to
what Bigfoot has done to change my life. And it's
such a wonderful way of looking at it. And if
it wasn't for that sighting when I was thirteen years old,
that was supposed to happen for a reason, because here
I am now talking to people and sharing stories and
doing investigations and you know, meeting my wife and meeting
all kinds of other people, and you know, just you know,
I spent so many years watching TV shows, just being
so interested in the different shows, and then now that
I've been so ingrained in this that I have become
friends with the same people that I've watched on TV.
And it's like, you know, my wedding.
Speaker 5: Well, I've thought about that too. I thought, you know,
when I was up in the Arctic and fun, I
saw those footprints. There were so many of them, there
were one hundred times. I mean they went off into
the horizon and I knew they weren't beer and I
came home obsessed, and that was a life changing moment.
Speaker 15: Definitely.
Speaker 5: Monster Quest wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for that.
Speaker 15: Exactly same thing with everything else. It's just it brings
something forward in us that we want to go discover
more about it, and in turn we discover everything else,
and and that brings people together that I mean, that's honestly,
we're supposed to be bringing everybody together.
Speaker 5: Well, it's as good of it's it's as good as
of a theory as anything, right.
Speaker 15: Yes, and it could be true.
Speaker 5: But because I do look back and I go, if
that one step wouldn't have happened, I wouldn't be here
right now. I wouldn't I wouldn't have met you, exactly,
we wouldn't have met each other. I wouldn't have met Jeff.
There's are so many things I have met too through
the last forty years. I don't know how many, but
hundreds and hundreds of people.
Speaker 15: Somebody wanted to tell you. Hi. By the way, I
was talking to him before the show.
Speaker 5: I can't even read it. Hold it up a little close.
Oh Squatch Juice, Brandon.
Speaker 15: Right, Yeah, I just I did a little plug there
for him.
Speaker 5: Oh you did.
Speaker 15: No, he's ambassador for Squatch Juice.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: That guy. He works hard, he does, and he's got
a great product. I love the just for him. I
love the flavor.
Speaker 15: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's insane. I pour a little bit of that
in my water and I'm like drinking water like crazy.
That's good stuff.
Speaker 15: That makes it more app for me to drink water
because I don't like the water sometimes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, water's kind of play. And so there you go.
There you go, Brandon, buddy. The only thing I'm not
good at when I meet people, it's things like that.
I know it's Brandon or Brendan. He's Brandon, and then
and then and then your your friend is Brendan Jeffona.
Speaker 7: I can see.
Speaker 5: He's so awesome. And so I'm good with names, but
only some of those little o's and e's and things
that get mixed up. So forgive me. But yeah, this
is a good product. But let's talk a little bit
more about that. It's never talked about ever on any
podcast of why we've seen them, and it's so it's
changed your life. It's definitely changed my life. Oh my god.
I think about all of the things that happened. I've
I got a letter once from somebody who worked for
me during the two thousand and eight crash, and he
wrote me a letter saying, you know, I would have
lost my house if it wasn't for Monster Quest really,
and I'm like wow, And he was send me this
heartfelt letter about how it saved his marriage, his house,
everything Monster Quested, and I'm like, wow, I mean, that's
that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. The butterfly effect is
well we're talking about somebody should name it the Bigfoot
butterfly effect or something. Yeah, there needs to be some
vernacular to describe that, because it is weird. And I
think back of all the good really like the people
I would never want to be out of my life
that I meet through the Bigfoot mystery.
Speaker 15: If we take all of that in a nutshell and
just think about that whole concept, I can't ever get
over this concept right here, is Bigfoot changing all of
these lives by bringing us all together for one mere
fact that we're looking for some creature in the woods.
Mother Nature is providing us with reuniting people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what if it's Yeah, I mean it could
be all arranged by like people call them Guardian Angels
or whatever or star seeds, star seeds, sure, millions of
her names. That's it's interesting. You're making me think they're ron.
You're making me think. But yeah, you know, if I
think back and I'm like, oh my god, all the
things that wouldn't what would I be doing today that
had not found those footprints? Where would I be today?
Would I be on skid row? What? I don't know,
you know, you just you do wonder. But it definitely
changed a lot of lives and the people I was around,
not only all the people that work for me over
through the years, but all of the people I've met
and befriended, and yeah, some great by the way, I
do want to say this too, ninety nine point nine
nine percent of all the people I've met are wonderful. Yeah,
like a step above the average guy, the step above
the average lady. People are.
Speaker 7: The great community.
Speaker 5: They have a thirst for knowledge. They're more curious, and
I'm amazed, Like when you go to those conferences run
and you see all those people giving up their day
to listen to a speaker. They're there to learn. I mean,
they could be doing a million other things, and that's
that's that's respect in my mind.
Speaker 7: Well, one thing really unique among I don't know if
hobby is the right word, but communities like this, even
when people degree disagree in this community, they're pretty respectful.
I mean a lot of everybody has a pretty different
idea and for the most part, people are really respectful
of everyone's different ideas and different theories. And that's really cool.
That's kind of unique among you know, any kind of
specialized community like this.
Speaker 15: The way I always say to people is is it's
okay if you don't believe, but don't dismiss me for believing. Sure,
everybody has their own thoughts, everybody their own interests. It's
just like I'd say that, well, I'd rather play a
piccolo than a guitar. Okay, So that's fine, that's fine.
You want to do somebody's got to play it, you know.
It's just like I'm not afraid to start talking about
bigfoot no matter where I'm.
Speaker 5: At, Like, no, I'm not either anymore, not at all.
Speaker 15: I've gotten half of the guys I work with interested
because oh what are you doing this week? Or on
what sure are you going to this week? Oh when's
the documentary coming out? Like you know, it's just they're
always now because I talk about it so much. Where
whenever I first started working there years ago, everybody was like, ah,
that doesn't exist. I mean they some of them will
still say it, but it's just everybody's invested now. They
want to know what the next step is.
Speaker 5: Well, it definitely wakes you up. If you know, people
call that. I'm not saying whoke, I'm just saying who No,
it wakes you up. It humble, it's humbling, You're humbled,
you're awake. Definitely think it causes growth and support and support.
Speaker 15: When you get somebody to open up their mind and
give that give and give them that opportunity to be
able to speak about something that they didn't think they
would be able to right, that just opens up their world.
Speaker 5: But you know, what's you know another that I just
had just hit me just now. I could call you
or any number of people all over the country and
say I need a place to stay tonight, or do
you want to meet for dinner or whatever? All over
the whole country, every state, and people would be like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know that's that's crazy. So it's like you have
we all have friends all over the country, all over
the world, all of the world. Yeah, actually, right now,
you're absolutely right. That's pretty powerful.
Speaker 7: You know, just didn't fight right there, Doug.
Speaker 5: Uh huh. I'm trying to figure out how you got
all these I got me to think about all these things.
Speaker 15: I think outside of the box. Okay, well, well see
that that's another thing about me. Remember I said that,
like my my biker bigfoot is like my clown costume. Yeah,
get ready for this one. You already heard part of
the story and you have the picture. So if you
trail back in the history of my family, yeah, there's
a reason why. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I
descend from circus.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 15: So in there it is Hows and Cushing. There was
at one time that they worked together before it was P. T.
Barnum and Bailey, and in the eighteen hundreds the International
House Circus was in the United States. They actually went
overseas to England to perform in front of the Royal family.
There was a lot of different things. I don't have
the information in front of me, but if you Google
search the International House Circus, it'll tell you that our
circus did a lot of groundbreaking things for the future
of circuses.
Speaker 5: So this is a really old circus.
Speaker 15: Yes, it was in the eighteen hundreds. Like I said,
it was the International House Circus, made up by Seth
Howells and his brother. I descend from Seth. He's like
my great great grandfather. And then they joined forces with Cushing,
which a lot of people would know about Cushing, but
they also joined forces with P. T. Barnum before it
was P. T. Barnum and Bailey, which is.
Speaker 7: What we know now.
Speaker 15: It's been long since been disbanded. But I'm working on
some things. Yeah, so you never know what's going to happen. Yeah,
but it does explain a lot of the reason why
I I the way.
Speaker 5: It's it's well, it's in your your You have a
little bit of showman in you obviously, or you wouldn't
you wouldn't want to put up I mean know, whing
the hell is going to think to put a big
foot cost you want to go right around on Harley Davidson.
Speaker 4: You you you.
Speaker 5: Have the collective consciousness in your genes and your DNA.
It's in there.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But it's obviously you're having fun and you're helping people,
and it's it's really but this way you're making people
have a good day.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, it's inherently a positive thing.
Speaker 15: It's just great that that's that's what I love about
the whole thing unusual. I embraced the chaos that we
call life, and and I just I throw it back
at everybody. It's like, here, let's go do this, how
about we do things this way? Or just the thoughts
come through my mind all the time on different things,
and that's that's where the questions come out. I'll be like, Okay, well,
why couldn't it be like this? Why why couldn't we
think that? Hey, maybe that is that way. You know,
just like I've heard about bigfoots were here long before man.
So you know, it's not nothing is out of the realm.
I mean, nothing is out of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 5: Okay, So we were talking about, oh, it's a possibility
that some of the purpose might be to bring certain
types of people together what do you think all of
these things are. Do you think they're connected. Do you
think UFOs bigfoots, because it's kind of the same thing
when UFO. Some people see them a little more on
a regular basis. Some people never see them. There are.
Speaker 15: I have not witnessed one up close. I've seen what
I believe that looked like stars that were doing zigzag
motions like I didn't. I've never seen a star do
a shooting star do that, So I believe that it
was a UFO. But there are people out there that
do have their regular sightings of them. There there's something
going on with the inner Let me say this right,
the inner inner universal connection. That it's they're slowly reaching
out to us. The thing about bigfoots, about stepping away,
stepping back, and staying away from us. I believe that
they are being very cautious of us because we are
one of the most dangerous animals on this planet. We
have cognitive thinking, we have language, uh, you know, the
the ability to speak and learn from different languages in
different cultures. Uh, It's it's something that they have to
get familiar with. You know, we have a destructive mind,
so we have they're being cautious, but they're both basically
looking at us and saying, hey, here's here's another familiar
creature out there that you know, we're going to have
to make make some kind of communication with. I mean,
they've been studying us for a long time.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 15: You hear the reports about UFO abductions, and people tell
their stories about what happened or what they believe happened,
because you know, there's a lot of memory loss during
time lasting stuff, right. You know, there's abductions from bigfoots.
You know, people say that they were inducted and they
got away. You know, there's there's these family that has
been talked about, I can't remember the name of them,
where there was a lady that was taken in by
Bigfoot and they made a family. And that's where we've
got like gigantic Pipacus. You know, there's the talk about
the biblical sense of the Nephilon there. It's just it's
all over the realm of every possible thing that's going on.
There's people saying that they live among us already. You know,
it's everything is everywhere. When we actually have one of
them or multiples of them stand right in front of
us and tell us, hey, this is why I'm here,
then we'll know everything else that we have right now
for information is just basically it's theories.
Speaker 5: The scariest thing I've heard recently, this was kind of creepy,
was somebody who had mentioned that they had they knew
somebody at the Pentagon and they had said, the reason
the Pentagon is fighting the release of so many things
is because they're worried that once everything is released, the
other beings right that we've been hiding are going to
feel and they're going to feel emboldened to one to
kind of like start walking into our living rooms.
Speaker 15: Basically, Yeah, it's kind of like making friends with a neighbor,
and neighbor just thinks they can come.
Speaker 5: On over exactly what a great analogy.
Speaker 15: I mean, welcome and and acknowledgement that they exist because
right now, you know, there's only sightings and everybody just
thinks that they exist. Right, you know, once it's fully released,
which it's supposed to be happening, and they're supposed to
be also, that that them coming forward to us more
than what they already have, I mean, what happens they're
going to be among us?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's about. I mean, I could I
could kind of believe and buy into that that that
would be a fear because supposedly there's all these agreements
that you know, you can't really disclose yourself. But once
everything's out, that'd be a horrible problem. Whendn't it, Jeff,
all of a sudden, Uh, everybody's reporting aliens in their
living room.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be something else.
Speaker 5: I mean it kind of makes sense, so saying that,
in other words, it could be like way more objects
in our skies because they'll have no reason not to be. Yeah,
I mean, they'll be landing in our backyards.
Speaker 15: You know, there's been stories where people say that they
saw something wrong with the sky.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and what it is?
Speaker 15: I mean this I'm using a cartoon for this chicken
little where he said the sky is falling. Yeah, there
was a trying or a hectagon that fell out of
the sky. I mean it's kind of like, you know,
there there are hiding themselves from us and playing sight.
Speaker 5: This is crazy to think about what what the what
the world is going to be like in like five years?
And does the government know bigfoots are real? You would
think they would, right, You would think that they would
have had if they were collecting UFOs in the nineteen
thirties from Italy like this, David Gresch said, I just
would It would make no sense for them, It would
make no since run for them not to be researching biquots.
Speaker 15: I strongly believe that they have one or multiples.
Speaker 5: They've got to I mean you would think, I mean,
if they're real and whether they're flesh and blood or
something else, they would be researching that. Because anything that
has got that many reports, I mean there must be.
I know there's like ten thousand documented ones. But well,
I mean, you know, as good as good as I
do that probably one two three four percent ever get.
Speaker 15: Reported growing now because it's yeah now it is, I mean, but.
Speaker 5: Not in but not small town America because they're still
very afraid of being teased, toilet paper teased. Could you
imagine you're living at a town of two hundred and
fifty people, you're not saying crap.
Speaker 15: Well to any of those that are listening, come on
out and talk to us. We will talk to you
about it and not criticize you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, great comment from Elizabeth here. This is this is
something that I think I've always thought about it, Like,
if you woke up tomorrow and all of a sudden
there's aliens on TV full disclosure, the world would kind
of stop. Yeah, I mean the world would stop. I
mean what Elizabeth asked for people just listening. Would you
go to work if there were aliens in your living room?
And I think a lot of people would just say,
what's the point of yeah doing anything? I mean, that
would just change your whole worldview.
Speaker 5: Yeah, people would be worried, they'd be going through their
underworld or I'm joking, it's a joke.
Speaker 15: I think you made a comment earlier that like if
all this were to come out and they would be
right here in plain sight all the time, then there's
no more research to do. Yeah, so what what would
be next after that? You know, we're still trying to
find NeSSI.
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, God knows.
Speaker 7: God knows.
Speaker 5: So do you think there'll be a time where we
really will know about all of the stuff with the
UFOs or do you think they're still going to keep
a majority of it hidden? Well, what are your thoughts? Run.
Speaker 15: I know within the next two years that we're supposed
to get a disclosure not from the.
Speaker 5: Government, Oh, okay, from from that say it, say it
from the from them the end, which is gonna be
a little different than disclosure from the government. I think.
Speaker 15: They're gonna they're gonna come forward again. It goes back
to that that fear of knowing as much as we
want to know, it can it will change everything. I mean,
you don't even change things biblically, but if you deep
dive into a lot of the different scriptures and stuff,
there's already words saying certain things. They've they've been really
deep diving on the Pyramids of Giza.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 15: Some of the hieroglyphs that they've been looking at have
actually depicted a lot of things that we're going to
be finding out. There's been more temples found throughout the
world that we didn't know about before. I've actually been
recently told about one and might be going on an
expedition for that.
Speaker 7: Oh wow.
Speaker 15: And I'll let everybody know if that happens. But it's
just amazing to find out whenever, you know, I can
go out in the backyard and dig up a shovel
of dirt and find something that you wouldn't see from
the surface, you know, the sands of time they call it.
You know, Earth changes, Earth moves, and you know, just
look at the Pyramids of Giza. That's only the tip
of what they really are there. You know, there there's
more of them underground that we can't see because the
sands have shifted with all the winds and time over
thousands of years.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, those thousands of years might be many, many,
many more thousands of years. You know, those things can
be so much older than what we've been told.
Speaker 15: We're just at the tip of the iceberger of what
we've learned.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: So did you get a chance? I heard you were
involved in the Flatwoods Monster mystery, and I did an
episode on that. Not that I know any more than
you do, but God, what a weird case that was.
I Woods Monster, I know.
Speaker 15: I put an event together down their town hall meeting
at the elementary school. Jason was with me and I
had Less there. Less actually got to interview the final
survivor before he passed, and sat and talked with me
about the whole thing, about what they saw and what
how it was described to be. It doesn't look anything
like what the pictures are, according to the description from
this person.
Speaker 5: It's Jeff go Ahead and threw up a Flatwood's monster
ture thing. It's basically like it was like a reptilian
floating and some kind of chariot is what some of
the reports were. Right.
Speaker 15: I'll look here if you if you cross the liquid terminator,
which was a basically like a biological metal.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 15: It was like the metal is moving, is why it
was described. So I'll use the reference from the movie
Men in Black where the gentleman that had the cat
went to the restaurant and the other creature killed him.
Whenever it got to the morgue, his face opened up.
There was a smaller creature inside. Right, this is what
is believed that the Flatwood's Monster is. And it floats.
That really isn't the creature itself. That is the ship.
Speaker 5: So you think the ship was kind of humanoid shaped?
Speaker 15: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, see those are I was just so weird looking.
Speaker 7: Yeah, pictures here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's quite a few depictions based on eyewitness descriptions
and didn't didn't it also wasn't it reported that it
sprayed something on people at times? Did you hear any
of that run?
Speaker 15: There was only two major sightings and they were in
two different times. Ah, but any any description that I
heard from anybody, I did not hear that part. It
might have just been a detail that they forgot. But
what I what I just explained is the only thing
that I know. There's there's really no new information that
I can that we were able to unfold. We weren't
able to get to the crash site because the property
es owned and and you know, I'm not allowed to
be on it.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 15: The only place that we were able to do was
have the little town hall meeting at the school where
the kids were playing soccer, which was actually football, and
they saw the thing crash and they walked towards it,
and it came out of the woods towards them, And
there was a lot of reports where they seen the
thing going through the sky before it crashed, which, honestly,
if what you saw in those pictures was really the
creature was a ship, then the ship didn't really crash.
It actually landed, but they heard a loud boom and
it looked like a meteorite or star shooting whenever it
was coming down. So I mean, it could have been
depicted as a crash because of the way that it
was coming in. I mean, if you think about how
NASA whenever the capsule comes back into orbit from space,
it's almost like a bullfire.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 15: So, I mean anything that's coming through space, unless it's extraterrestrial,
made with extraterrestrial metals, then it's going to be able
to withstand that. Where this thing ended up going to
after these sightings, I don't know. There's just there's just
not enough information to be able to get anything more
out of it.
Speaker 5: It's just such a weird That was just such a
weird one. The other one that was really weird was
the the one that happened down in Louisiana, the Pasca
Gula incident with the two guys that were on the
pier in Louisiana and these creatures abducted them, and they
described him with these long fingers and these like turnip
heads and they abducted him and it was really weird.
Speaker 15: Okay, I haven't heard this one.
Speaker 5: The one I just mentioned. Yeah, Yeah, that was I
cannot remember. I think it was the Pasca Gula And
what were the guys names? One it was. One of
them was a Facebook friend.
Speaker 7: Of mine, Helvin.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Calvin.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: One of the coolest things that verified their story why
the sheriff believed him because he left a recorder running
in his office and left those two guys alone for
like an hour, and those guys were talking amongst themselves,
and he recorded all of what they had, you know,
what they were doing. And so he knew these guys
were freaked out and knew they were not lying. But
look at that. Look at that look on that thing.
It looks like a turnip the creature. And and then
I don't know it was Calvin or the other guy.
He said it stuck a finger down in his throat.
I was digging around in his throat. It was just like, uh, and.
Speaker 15: The ship is that one picture of the ship?
Speaker 5: Yeah, supposedly it's what they saw, you know. And it
landed and he's things came out on a ramp and yeah,
Calvin never waived his story, not even a little bit.
That's the younger guy Calvin with alongside Burns. And he
was a Facebook friend of mine for years and years
and he passed not terribly long ago, but yeah, I
was stuck to his story kind of like I mean,
it's kind of akin to the Travis Walton story, very
very similar. Multiple witnesses weird weird story and police were involved,
and you know, all right, what do we got. I
think we're gonna work because it's Father's Day. We're gonna
wrap this up early tonight because half the population is fried, tired,
too much sun, too many burgers, too many.
Speaker 15: Hot dogs, and I overdid it today myself.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy. But thank you so much Ron for
coming on and thank you. Get you back again.
Speaker 7: Be fun.
Speaker 5: I'll call you one of these days soon and just visit.
Speaker 15: Absolutely. Now you guys are in.
Speaker 5: We're in Minnesota. We're just park to Minneapolis, so we're
about twelve hours away by car from you, maybe long
fifteen hours or somewhere like that. Yeah, and you know
the area you're in is like very hilly, mountainous.
Speaker 15: We're in the Appalachian Mountain Range, Yeah, which is a
huge fascination of mine because it carries a lot, a lot,
a lot of the cryptids.
Speaker 5: So you're not kidding, you're not kidding.
Speaker 15: Very interested to make plans to take the Appellationian Trail. Yeah,
so that that's something that I'm going to be planning
down the road.
Speaker 5: Is that trail is it like a single track trail
or is a double track you can only.
Speaker 15: Walk on it, correct, Yeah, you can only walk on it.
Speaker 5: But can you ride bikes?
Speaker 15: Well, some of it, a lot of it is like
very harsh drain. It goes, it runs from Maine to Georgia,
and it is it's some of it's very unforgiving. You
have to be very ready to do this. I've heard
so many stories of people getting lost, injured, whatever, and
and they've witnessed so many crazy things on that trail,
like whether it's apparitions or Bigfoot or yeah.
Speaker 5: Missing, there's even been a lot of missing people. And yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's it's crazy. Every time I read the stories. There's
always something crazy going on in that area. It's like
a big triangle of weirdness.
Speaker 15: Yeah, the appalation triangle. That's what it should be called.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how far how far are you from the actual
well mountain like trails?
Speaker 15: Actually, uh, it's Mount Davis is a tributary do the
Appalachian Mountains kind of like a like a creek is
a tributary to a river. I'm only forty five minutes
away from Mount Davis. Now beyond that to get into
West Virginia it's probably about an hour, So i I'm
not far from it.
Speaker 5: No, I mean that's just a short little drive.
Speaker 7: I wasn't too far from me. I was in a
mountaintop a couple of weeks ago by Scranton. So it's
a beautiful, beautiful area. Very hilly, surprising o' hilly it is. Yeah,
there's a lot you could hide. You could hide a
lot of animals in that area. There's deep valleys and yeah,
it's it's thick.
Speaker 15: A lot of une in that state.
Speaker 7: An unsettlaball. I mean, areas that you just couldn't build.
People just couldn't live there. It's just just deep valleys
with no access. It's just it's never going to be settled.
There's just no way.
Speaker 15: I tell you what was really interesting that happened while
we were on our two week trip, and not only
were we in New Jersey looking for the New Jersey Devil,
but we was in West Virginia doing our thing with
the flat woods and bigfoot.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 15: We were able to meet Sherry Break. Her and her
husband own property in West Virginia. It's called Raven Rock Ranch.
They have B and B they have they get goats
and stuff, they have trails and things. And we got
a tour of that. And boy, I'll tell you what,
that's just a portion of West Virginia and where we
were researching is just a portion of West Virginia. There's
just so much land out there, monstrous trees and cliffs.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very it's very difficult to access.
Speaker 15: Some of it's very hard to access. It really is.
Speaker 7: For us anyways.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I almost want to move to West
Virginia just so I can have time to just go
you know, I don't I'll do it, just be there
and just go out and investigate.
Speaker 5: Are there a lot of researchers in Western Virginia? Do
you think?
Speaker 15: Personally? I know about five. I know that there's others.
I'm trying to think of what I've.
Speaker 5: Driven through West Virginia a few times, and that's that's
a wild place.
Speaker 15: Well wild and wonderful West Virginia.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is wild and there's a lot of mountains, but.
Speaker 15: It is absolutely both beautiful. My my roots strand into Buffanan,
West Virginia. That's where my family was from, and then
they come up here to Pennsylvania and I've been here
all my life and I've been venturing around.
Speaker 5: Kenny Kenny Hess specifically calls you out and said you
need to look up Kenny Hess.
Speaker 15: Okay, it lives.
Speaker 5: I think he lives out by you. He's Kenny's an
awesome guy. Oh, by the way, one last question. It's
kind of a yes or no. Have you ever been
out and heard any kind of of like buzzing or
humming sound when you've been out in the woods looking
for bigfoot?
Speaker 15: I haven't, but a friend of mine has. Really he
described it to me almost like there's bees in your head.
Okay there. I've had other instances of similar things that
I've heard, but not like a bee sound. But it
does exist.
Speaker 5: But your friend had mentioned that that's interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 15: Yeah, just you know, recently we were together in West Virginia,
this a couple like last week. He had told me
that he had been out and it's just there's these
weird things happen. Yeah, that's the strange anominally that bigfoot
is like you never know what's going to happen whenever
you're out there in the woods. What they're going to do. Yeah,
are gonna want to make you feel or what you're
gonna hear?
Speaker 5: So interesting.
Speaker 7: I'll get you, I'll get you. Kendy's number else after
we're done here else. Oh okay, all forward kiddie's number
to you.
Speaker 5: All right, good, all right, so hang on just one
second round. We're going to do our wisdom of the week,
and then we'll come back and say your advice.
Speaker 7: Right back, everyone, don't go away.
Speaker 2: It's now time for our wisdom of the week. A
good father does not have to be perfect. He has
to be present children. Remember the steady hand, the ride home,
the silly moments, and the love that showed up on
hard days. Fatherhood is measured by whether your kids fell protected,
believed in and loved enough to become themselves. Keep your word,
admit when you were wrong, love deeply, and make sure
they always know there's a light on for them.
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Speaker 7: And we're back. One of us is I'm back.
Speaker 5: By the way, I was going to mention that Matt Lankford,
who was our guests. Last week he has been playing
the buzz or the humbuzz per out in the wits
Is experiment. And do you want to mention anybody who
needs that sound? I have a looped recording and I'm
happy to email it to anybody. Just get a hold
of me a doug an untold radio am dot com
and I will email it to you the sounds and
you can play it on your phone and then broadcast
it on a Bluetooth speaker. Cool. So anyhow, well, thank
you again, especially because it was Father's Day. We really
appreciate its great meeting you and keep up the good work.
Speaker 15: I absolutely will.
Speaker 7: Good Night everyone, Yeah, thanks, thanks, thanks for tuning in.
Good night, Jeff, good night, Ron, good night.
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