WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:17.359 Podcast join host hoh as he discussed as the riveting 2 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:22.239 Netflix original series Black Mirror. Now here he is hoo 3 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:31.679 hoo there broadcasting from Weapini Soft Production Studio B. Welcome 4 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:34.159 to Black Mirror Podcast and as always I'm your host. 5 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:37.159 Ho Ho. So, how y'all's doing. I hope you don't good? 6 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:41.079 I really do, because today we are kicking off season 7 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:48.439 seven with episode one titled common People Now. This episode, 8 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:51.920 it had some it reminded me of a few things, right, 9 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:55.240 you know, there was a throwback to you know, season 10 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:59.159 three episode six titled Hated in the Nation. There was 11 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:04.840 possible throwback to season three episode four with san Junapiro 12 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:09.159 and it. You know, so there were some aspects in 13 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:13.200 this episode that very much reminded me about, you know, 14 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.519 cell phone coverage and plans back in the day whenever 15 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:19.560 that you know, cell phones were really first coming out. 16 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:25.519 And yes, yes, I'm older than smartphones, I'm older than Google, 17 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:32.439 I'm older than the Internet. I'm pretty sure I'm older 18 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:34.719 than the computer. Even maybe I don't know about that one. 19 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:37.439 I might not be older than the computer. And it 20 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:42.439 also reminded me about, you know, with with how streaming 21 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.920 services started off being and then what they kind of 22 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.719 progressed to all that good stuff. I mean, you know, 23 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:52.120 so there were some things that this this episode definitely 24 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.280 reminded me of. And the bottom line is this episode 25 00:01:55.319 --> 00:02:01.599 is about what happens when desperation max head on into 26 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:07.280 corporate greed, very much so. And before we get into 27 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.240 all that spoiler alert, we are going to be talking 28 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:13.520 about the episode itself. So if you have yet to 29 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:18.680 watch Common People, head on over there, check out the episode, 30 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.360 and then come on back and we'll discuss it all. Right, 31 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:24.520 So let's go ahead and get into it now. The 32 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:27.919 show starts off like so many episodes, right. I mean, 33 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:33.639 you've got just your average everyday couple, you know, you're 34 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:39.000 just traditional people. You've got Mike, a welder, you know, 35 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:43.039 just just working his butt off, making ends meet, paying 36 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:46.360 for the house, paying for whatever else they need. You've 37 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:48.479 got Amanda. She is a school teacher, and I think 38 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:51.879 she's teaching elementary school. But at any rate, you know, 39 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:55.319 while she's teaching, and I believe this is like the 40 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:58.680 first thing that we hear her teaching about. Actually, they're 41 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:06.080 talking about these autonomous robotic bees that they used to 42 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:12.919 replace like actual bees that by this time has gone extinct, 43 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:15.599 and of which case, that is very much a throwback 44 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.080 to Hate It in the Nation very much, is you know, 45 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:21.800 which is interesting to me because you know, I believe 46 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:26.840 it was season four. Was it season four? Oh man, 47 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:29.800 now I'm going to have to look Dad Gummett. It 48 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:35.439 was the episode of Black Museum, and I gotta check 49 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:39.560 when that was Black Museum? Okay, so that was actually 50 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:43.240 season season four, Yes, Black Museum, you know, and we 51 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:47.400 learned in that episode that, you know, everything that's going 52 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:54.759 on on Black Mirror basically happens within the same extended universe, 53 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:57.520 the Black Mirror extended Universe, if you will, the b 54 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:01.400 m EU. We kind of learned that that everything is 55 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:03.479 kind of connected. So I thought it was neat that 56 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:07.159 they threw, you know, through that little easter egg in there, 57 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:10.840 you know, kind of explaining a little bit that possibly 58 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:15.159 may have been before the uh, you know, what happened 59 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:18.680 in Hated in the Nation, I don't know, I don't know, 60 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:22.399 but you know, definitely talks about them autonomous bees. Very 61 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:27.120 interesting stuff. And you know, while Amanda is teaching, she's 62 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:30.000 in front of the class and then all of a 63 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:34.680 sudden she passes out, completely loses consciousness. It's like, oh 64 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.240 my god, this is horrible, right, you know, And she's 65 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:41.680 taken to the hospital and you know, you see, you know, 66 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:43.759 Mike's standing there in front of the window, and the 67 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.519 doctor's talking to Mike, letting him know that, hey, you know, 68 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:50.680 she she has a brain tumor, and considering where the 69 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:53.480 tumor is located, there's just nothing we're going to be 70 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:57.519 able to do, unfortunately, and she may never regain consciousness, right, 71 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:01.920 I mean, this is just absolutely horrible news. I couldn't 72 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:05.240 even imagine news like this. I mean I really couldn't. 73 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:10.120 I mean, dude, just the heartbreak, the desperation that he has. 74 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:15.319 And then the doctor tells him about a new startup 75 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:20.720 tech company called Rivermind and suggests that he talked to 76 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:23.360 the rep that was in the hospital like a week 77 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:27.519 before that, I think something like that. So he goes, 78 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:30.519 he talks to the rep and the representative explains that, 79 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:33.639 you know, that is what they can do is remove 80 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.399 the tumor. And Mike's like, well, isn't that dangerous And 81 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:41.000 she goes, well, normally yes, but as what we do 82 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:46.720 is we replace what we remove with a synthetic type 83 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:50.920 of a brain tissue. That is connected to the cloud, 84 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:55.839 you know, because they take a backup of her consciousness 85 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:02.160 and save it on their heart. And then is what 86 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:06.279 they do is they upload and just stream her consciousness 87 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:11.800 like into that brain tissue that they replace in the 88 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:13.759 in her brain with the you know, with the tumor 89 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:15.879 that they removed. That that's that's what they do. It's like, 90 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.040 you know, and and she even goes further to explain that, 91 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:21.160 you know, we pay for the surgery. You don't have to, 92 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:24.519 you know, there's no cost to you for the surgery whatsoever. 93 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:28.279 And he's like, you know, what about the cost? What 94 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.560 about the cost? What about the cost? And she, you know, 95 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:36.480 she she very strategically ignores that question until she completely 96 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:40.319 has him hooked. And that's when she unleashes the bombshell 97 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:46.920 of what it's going to cost. Three hundred dollars a month. 98 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:51.040 Holy crap. I mean, dude, that's like a car payment, right, 99 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:53.319 you know. And I mean here's the thing. I mean, 100 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:57.079 you know, Mike and Amanda, they're just common, average, every 101 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:01.800 day middle class people, that's what they are, just like me, 102 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:06.800 And an additional payment like that would be that'd be hard, right. 103 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.839 I Mean, there's so many people out there today are 104 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:13.800 living you know, basically paycheck to paycheck, and even if 105 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:16.879 they do have, you know, money in the bank, I mean, 106 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:21.079 having to pay that kind of expense on top of 107 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:24.759 everything else they're already paying for holy crap, you know. 108 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:29.560 And and he's like, Okay, you know, we'll you know, 109 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:31.360 I can I can swing this. You know, I can 110 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:34.560 definitely do that. And you know what she goes and 111 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:38.879 she explains to Mike is that, you know, we are 112 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:42.199 a small startup company. We're still building out our network, 113 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.879 but right now things are kind of limited, so you're 114 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:48.519 going to be restricted to you know, your your area. 115 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:52.279 But we are expanding things. Shortly, we will be you know, 116 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:56.560 they'll be coverage nationwide and then we are going to 117 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:00.199 be expanding to global. And of which case, that's when 118 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:02.079 the real magic is going to happen, right, I mean 119 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:05.959 that's she sells him on the dream, right, that's what 120 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:10.680 she does. She sells them on the dream. I mean 121 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:14.959 in this type of a situation, how many of you 122 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:21.199 out there would jump on that deal? You know personally? 123 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:24.240 I mean if I was in that situation, I would, 124 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:27.600 I mean, dude, I would, I would have to. I mean, 125 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:31.800 I would definitely have that mentality that I would have 126 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:33.519 to do that. You know, I would have to do 127 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:38.440 something because otherwise what you're talking about is completely basically 128 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:45.320 saying goodbye to your wife. I mean, I don't think 129 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:48.000 I can do that with with that type of an option. 130 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:55.039 Price be damned, right. I mean maybe that's just me, 131 00:08:56.519 --> 00:08:59.799 But in that situation, I could easily see how I 132 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:04.879 would do the same thing. What would you do? Would 133 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:11.320 you do the same thing or would you not? Would 134 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:17.240 the price be too high? Mind? You? You know, she 135 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:21.440 just got done selling Mike the dream, right, a dream 136 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:25.120 of having his wife back, of being able to go 137 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:29.360 back to normal. And the only downside that he talked 138 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:32.480 that she talks about, you know, outside of having a 139 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:36.080 limited coverage, was she's going to be sleeping a couple 140 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.840 extra hours a night, so instead of sleeping eight hours 141 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:41.600 a night, she's going to be sleeping ten. Big whoop 142 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:43.519 that he freaking do? Right, you know, I'll take that 143 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.840 deal half a heartbeat, right. Well, the next year later, 144 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.759 you know, he well, Okay, so she gets the surgery, 145 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:58.279 everything's fine, she's completely normal, back to her same self. 146 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:04.919 And then a year later they're going on their anniversary 147 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:08.720 and they're going to a like a hotel called the 148 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:11.360 Juniper I think, or the Junipero. I think it was 149 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:14.320 the Juniper. And in which case, that kind of reminded 150 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:19.200 me of the episode San Junapio, you know, I mean, 151 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:21.120 that's definitely what it reminded me of. What was that 152 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:25.639 season three episode four. I don't know if the two 153 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:28.320 were related in some way, shape or form. I don't know. 154 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:30.639 I just of all the names they could have picked, 155 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:36.000 they picked one so close to a previous episode just 156 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:39.320 kind of made me wonder. I mean, they don't really 157 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:42.919 explain anything into that at all, but it definitely made 158 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:50.240 me wonder. So anyway, they're going on vacation and you know, 159 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.279 they get into a little bit of an argument. I 160 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:54.320 mean it's not a bad argument, but they get into 161 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:56.840 a little bit of an argument. And as soon as 162 00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:06.559 as soon as they cross the county line, do do 163 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:11.120 do do? She powers off, She loses consciousness. She is 164 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:15.200 down for the count right. She passes out again. Mike 165 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:17.960 understandably so is freaking out. He's like, oh my god, 166 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.039 I got to turn her out. We got to go back. 167 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:23.240 I'm taking you to the hospital. This is not right, 168 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:26.919 this is not normal. What the heck's going on. And 169 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.240 as soon as he you know, after he cuts the 170 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:33.240 U turn right there on the highway, as soon as 171 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:39.200 he crosses back into their own county, she comes to again. 172 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.679 Now he's thinking there's some kind of an issue, right, 173 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.639 I mean, of course there's there's got to be some 174 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:51.279 kind of an issue. Come to find out, because they 175 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:53.559 go back to the you know, they go back to Rivermine. 176 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:57.320 They talk to their their salesperson, the representative again and 177 00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:59.360 and she's like, oh no, well, I mean, you know 178 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:03.159 it's it's a coverage And Mike's confused. He's like, what 179 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:07.159 are you talking about coverage? I checked the coverage map. 180 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:10.159 You know there was you know, there's supposed to be 181 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:14.559 coverage over there, and and the the rep was like, well, yeah, 182 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:24.200 there is, but you're not. That's not part of your plan. 183 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:29.519 That's not part of the tier, the usage tier that 184 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:34.200 you're using. You guys are on the common tier. If 185 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.519 you want to be able to expand where you go, 186 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:45.200 you've got to upgrade to a plus tier that'll give 187 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.799 you the ability to do that. And but that's okay, 188 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:49.480 I'm gonna go. If you want to travel, if you 189 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:51.279 want to do that kind of stuff. That's amazing. Yeah, 190 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:54.159 you can do that if you upgrade to the tier. 191 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:57.679 It's just going to cost you a measly five hundred 192 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:00.480 dollars on top of what you're already paying, bringing the 193 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.240 grand total to eight hundred dollars. Are you kidding me? 194 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:11.919 Holy crap, that's like a mortgage payment. Holy cow, that's 195 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:19.480 rent from most places. And this right there, this very 196 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:23.600 much reminded me of, you know, like how cell phone 197 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:26.960 plans were back in the day, right because back in 198 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:29.440 the day. Okay, now, you youngsters out there, you got 199 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:35.000 no idea. All right, I'm gen X. We lived in this, 200 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.879 all right. This is how things were back in the day, 201 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:44.159 you know, because you didn't just get unlimited everything. And 202 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:47.120 the only thing that you really paid any additional money 203 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:49.399 for was data. No, no, no, no. Back in the day, 204 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:55.600 you paid for minutes. You know, there was such a 205 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:59.879 thing as as peak time and off peak time. You know, 206 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.960 peak time being from like seven am to seven pm 207 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.600 on there you had to pay you know, full price 208 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:09.919 on minutes, but nights and weekends seven pm to seven 209 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:13.720 am and weekends you had like basically unlimited minutes. But 210 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:17.440 before that you didn't you know, if you wanted to 211 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:21.120 send a text message, you know, it was like you 212 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:25.559 got to charge like half a minute. Talking on the 213 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:29.679 phone was a minute. And then there was this thing 214 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:33.960 called roaming because you just didn't have service wherever you went. 215 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:39.919 You were restricted to your area, your zip code, your 216 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.799 town whatever. I mean, you were restricting and where you 217 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.960 could where you can be and have a normal coverage. 218 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:49.360 If you go outside of your coverage area, and if 219 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:55.399 you didn't have you know, roaming, then you were unable 220 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:57.440 to use your phone, right, I mean that's how things 221 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:00.639 were back then. You know, we've come a long way 222 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:02.639 from how we used to be whenever it came to 223 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:06.840 cell phone plans and coverage. Now it's a night and 224 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:15.279 day difference, it really is, but back then it was different. Now, 225 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:19.399 shortly after this happened, okay, because obviously they're like, no, 226 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:23.759 we don't we're not going to pay you know, we're 227 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:27.320 not going to pay that much more money. You know, 228 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:29.840 I ain't got it. I can't do it. We're not 229 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:32.840 going to pay for that. We're already paying three hundred 230 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:35.240 dollars a month. We're not going to the plus tier. 231 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:39.240 You know, that's just ridiculous. This is not what we 232 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.320 were sold. This is not the dream you sold me 233 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:43.799 whenever you did all this stuff. You know. But it's 234 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:45.919 not like you can back out of the deal though, right, 235 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:50.600 I mean, he has his wife back and an extra 236 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:56.320 two hours a night. You know, it's it's a he'll 237 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:59.200 pay that, right, you know, it's he's got his wife back. 238 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:09.879 But shortly thereafter, she starts speaking ads. She starts just 239 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:14.279 speaking commercials, and she doesn't even know what's going on. 240 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.200 You know, she was having a you know, teaching about 241 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:20.519 this and the next thing, you know, this ad comes 242 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:23.080 out of her mouth and she isn't even aware of 243 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:24.879 a couple of things. You know, this happens a few 244 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:28.399 other times. You know. Then finally his you know, Mike 245 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.480 realizes what the heck's going on and is like, this 246 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:36.559 is kind of this is kind of weird, right, you know, 247 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:41.840 And she ends up talking an ad in a very 248 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:46.799 bad at a very bad time. You know. She's talking 249 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:53.600 to one of her students and spouts off about I 250 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:57.919 don't know, some type of some type of a religious thing. 251 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:00.480 I forget exactly what it was, but some type of 252 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:02.679 religious things like, hey, if you're having a hard time, 253 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.440 get counseling from here yaha yahdah blah blah. The kid 254 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:08.920 goes home tells his mom. Mom's outrage is like, dude, 255 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.680 you can't do this kind of stuff. So now these 256 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:18.119 ads are threatening a man's job, right, And you know, 257 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:23.079 I was reminded about how streaming services were back in 258 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:27.440 the day, you know, because I remember whenever Netflix was 259 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:31.400 a DVD thing, you know that you you would go 260 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.799 on their website and you would you know, I mean 261 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:39.720 this was before you know, this was before like really broadbanding. 262 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:42.079 I mean, this was back in the in the early 263 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:45.160 days when you had you know, dial up was still 264 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:47.920 like the main way people got on the web, and 265 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:51.000 this was, you know, like right around the same timeframe 266 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:55.599 where broadband was really getting out there with you know, 267 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:59.200 with cable and with what DSL. You know. I mean 268 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:01.640 that this is whenever broadband was just coming out and 269 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:04.119 streaming services weren't a thing yet. But you could go 270 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.119 on to you know, Netflix dot com and you could 271 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:11.720 say I want I want to watch these different movies 272 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:14.920 and whatnot, and they would send you, based off of 273 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:20.039 your tier, so many DVDs. Whenever you watch them, you 274 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:22.240 send it, you know, they you send it back to 275 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:24.720 them and they send you the next one down on 276 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:28.160 your list. That's how it was. Back then, it was 277 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.319 all done by DVDs and then streaming service. You know, 278 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.839 this was the nail in the coffin really to you know, 279 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:40.279 Network TV and cable, you know, because they they went 280 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:45.119 from doing the DVD service to online on demand streaming 281 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:49.400 and it was that was like, dude, that was the thing. 282 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:54.119 No longer were you restricted watching your favorite show when 283 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:56.720 a network told you it would be available if you 284 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.720 miss an episode, Holy crap, you're screwed. You missed it. 285 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:04.119 You gotta wait for the reruns. But now all that 286 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:11.160 went away with on demand streaming services. Then competition came about, 287 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.240 and the next thing, you know, they were doing different well, 288 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.160 the next thing, you know, the same type of thing 289 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:21.640 of what was going on with rivermind. They started playing ads. 290 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:26.440 But then they said, hey, you know, if you don't 291 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.519 want the ads, then you could always pay extra for 292 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.119 an ad free experience. You know, I mean, advertisers are 293 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.880 still out there, they're still wanting to you know, advertisers 294 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:41.880 still want advertise, and so that's what you had was 295 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:47.079 different tiers of your subscription in order to get out 296 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:52.079 of things like ads. It's very much what this reminded 297 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:54.960 me of. You know, so, I mean, you know, what 298 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.519 did you think about how you know? I mean, were 299 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:02.720 you around whenever streaming services first really became a thing. 300 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:06.279 You seen the competition come in, and you know, things 301 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:09.200 just started to slowly change and then not slow not 302 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:12.720 so slowly change. I mean it was it was kind 303 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:26.880 of wow type of thing, right, so oh oops, so yeah, 304 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:28.799 I mean it was just it was just crazy back then, 305 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:41.599 very much so. And that's whenever they ended up going 306 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:49.440 back to rivermind, whenever these ads were playing, because you know, 307 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:52.200 she was basically told, Amanda was basically told by the 308 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.079 principals like, look, we can't, we can't have this. You 309 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:00.000 can't be a teacher if you're just going to random 310 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:05.480 start speaking commercials and advertisements. You can't. You can't do this. 311 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:12.359 And by then, Mike was introduced by one of his 312 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:17.880 co workers to a an online streaming site called Dumb Dummies. 313 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.559 And on this streaming site, you know, you could watch 314 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:30.480 people do just stupid, humiliating, painful things, right like you know, 315 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:34.640 one guy pulled out a tooth, he you know, drank 316 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:38.519 his own urine. I mean, dude, you know, and it 317 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:44.400 was just just stupid, humiliating, painful things, and as a viewer, 318 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:46.519 you could pay money, and it was like, you know, 319 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:49.759 if I get you know, if if we get this 320 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:52.839 much money, then I'll do this thing, you know, And 321 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:54.559 that's how it was done. And I gotta be honest 322 00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:58.640 with you, you know, with with different streaming sites and 323 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:03.240 with things like you know, like OnlyFans, I'm i gotta 324 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:08.000 be honest with you. I'm I'm kind of surprised that 325 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:12.720 a website like this isn't actually out right. I mean, 326 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.519 I don't think something like this is out Maybe it 327 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:17.799 is on the dark web. Hell, I have no idea, 328 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:20.400 but I'm actually kind of surprised at something like this 329 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:24.079 isn't a thing right, that people can do these things 330 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:30.559 for money, that you, as a viewer, could give money 331 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:35.920 to somebody to do something stupid, yank out of his own tooth, 332 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:41.680 do whatever, all kinds of humiliating things, right. I mean, dude, 333 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:44.680 I am though, I gotta admit, I'm actually kind of 334 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.440 surprised at something like this isn't already out there, I mean, 335 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:51.559 is it? And I mean if something like this was 336 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:59.640 out there, would you watch it? Would you actually partake? 337 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:04.279 I mean, I don't know, man. I mean, like as 338 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:08.160 far as watching goes, okay, fine, I mean I would 339 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:12.039 I would probably watch something like that. I probably wouldn't. 340 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.119 I mean, granted, I could only assume that, you know, 341 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:18.279 to watch your you're probably paying some type of a 342 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:22.799 subscription just to get in the door and watch somebody's videos, right, 343 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:25.480 you know, I mean I could only assume that. I 344 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.559 don't know, that isn't something that they really talk about. 345 00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:31.319 It's nothing that's really explained, you know, It's just a 346 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:33.799 site that's there and you can do this. So I mean, 347 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.359 if there was a site like this that was out there, 348 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:40.359 if this was something that was actually going on, would 349 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:46.759 you watch? Would you participate? Would you throw somebody some 350 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:56.079 money to do something stupid, humiliating or painful? Better yet, 351 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:58.440 it is some If there was a site out there 352 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:06.720 like this, would you be a content creator? Sure? I 353 00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:11.759 don't know, man, I mean that's one way to earn money, 354 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:13.720 I guess. But I mean, you know, it's like okay, 355 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.119 pulling out teeth. I only got so many teeth, right, 356 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:22.039 you only got so many you know what? Like you 357 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:25.119 know what? In one instance? No, never mind, never mind, 358 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:28.680 I can't I can't talk about that yet, But would 359 00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:33.519 you be willing to do that to be a content 360 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:36.079 creator on one of on that type of a site, 361 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:43.519 would you, I mean desperate times calls for desperate measures. 362 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:47.519 I don't know that would be that would be rough 363 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:52.559 to watch it? Oh? Sure, I mean I would do that. 364 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.480 I mean I did. I'm just being honest with you, 365 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.480 you know. I mean I've watched some stupid say stuff 366 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:04.200 on you know, on the on the interwebs, you know, 367 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.559 disturbing things, you know, people doing stupid stuff, people getting hurt, 368 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:10.240 you know. I mean we've all watched those kind of 369 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:13.200 kind of videos whenever there's that disclaimer that you know, 370 00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:17.000 this person was okay, you know, they lived, they survived, 371 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.079 you know. I mean we've all seen those kind of 372 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:23.119 kinds of videos. So I mean, would you actually participate 373 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:26.160 in something like this? Would you watch? Would you pay 374 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:31.400 somebody to do something stupid, something painful, something humiliating. I 375 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:33.759 don't know. I'm not kind of like my money. But 376 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:35.680 at the same time, I I kind of you know, 377 00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:38.160 I I think I I think i'd join in. I think, well, 378 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:40.839 not join in, I think i'd watch. I really do, 379 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:46.759 I think i'd watch. So a year later, okay, like 380 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:55.119 they're they're on their next anniversary and oh wait, no 381 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.240 I already already talked about that part, didn't I yes, 382 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:06.200 I did so somewhere in in this timeframe, you know, 383 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:11.240 after he's learned about dumb dummies, after he's you know, 384 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:16.759 he went and talked about you know, already talked about 385 00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:22.599 the uh, the the plus tier. She noticed that she 386 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:27.240 was sleeping even more and not having you know, RESTful sleep. 387 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:38.880 And they get told about a new tier called lux 388 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:53.039 and this new tier cost an additional thousand dollars on 389 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:55.440 top of the you know, the eight hundred I could 390 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.079 only assume, you know, on top of the eight hundreds. 391 00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:00.680 I mean, you're talking eighteen hundred dollars a month for 392 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:02.839 the Luxury tear. Now. I mean, here's the thing though, 393 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.079 The Luxury tear sounds kind of nice though, right because 394 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.759 it integrates with you know, using an app on your phone. 395 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:17.119 It integrates with like all of your senses, all of 396 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:28.799 your senses, enhanced hearing, enhanced vision, enhanced sight, taste, smell, 397 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.279 even has different abilities thrown in the here. I mean, 398 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:36.440 you watched the commercial where the ladies like park or 399 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:42.960 you know, and it's you watch that right. But it 400 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:47.279 goes beyond that though, because it's even there's even a 401 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:49.359