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<v Speaker 1>Seven thirty fifty five Carsey Detalk Station. Happy Wednesday. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that time of the week we talk with Americans for Prosperity.

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan and Eil Donovan, welcome back to the fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>Kossey Morning Show. My friend, it's always a pleasure having

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<v Speaker 1>you on.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, happy to be here with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So, one small step for a man, one giant lea

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<v Speaker 1>for mankind, it's time for a one small step campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about this. You've launched this new campaign. What's

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<v Speaker 1>it all about, Donovan?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as we say, every giant leap begins with one

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<v Speaker 3>small step, and we've actually had our one Small Step

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<v Speaker 3>campaign for a number of months now, but we're sort

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<v Speaker 3>of kicking it off with renewed vigor and the run

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<v Speaker 3>up to next year's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of

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<v Speaker 3>the United States, and we've set out a challenge we're

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<v Speaker 3>launching today that is every AFP chapter, every state in

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<v Speaker 3>the country, we're gonna be looking to mobilize two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty thousand actions, two hundred and fifty thousand small

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<v Speaker 3>steps if you will, to make a difference in the

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<v Speaker 3>run up to next July fourth, America's two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fiftieth birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big carry on.

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<v Speaker 3>Dacis School, Brian, but it's one that we think we're

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<v Speaker 3>well positioned to do and we think can help reignite

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<v Speaker 3>the American dream for so many folks from coast to coast.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you point out, and I saw the study myself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a sad reality, the reality that the gallop pole

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<v Speaker 1>showing only fifty eight percent of US adults are proud

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<v Speaker 1>to be Americans. I mean, I think we've this is

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<v Speaker 1>an important campaign. I truly embrace what you're doing here

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<v Speaker 1>because I think we've lost our sense of reality relativity.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't pay attention to how terrible things are in

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<v Speaker 1>other countries, so they more fully appreciate the freedoms and

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<v Speaker 1>liberties that are well quick while quickly eroding, we still

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy here in America. We've lost sight of something that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is so truly and fundamentally important. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>basically embodied in the Bill of Rights.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, and you know we see it a lot, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you have that we run into that political malaise, right

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<v Speaker 3>folks would say, well, my voice isn't going to make

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<v Speaker 3>a difference. Yeah, you know, if I go out and

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<v Speaker 3>knock that door. Is that really going to have an

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<v Speaker 3>impact if I even go vote Brian? That gonna does

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<v Speaker 3>that tip the scales of power in Washington and set

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<v Speaker 3>things on the right direction. And so we combat that

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<v Speaker 3>every day. But you know, part of the campaign and

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<v Speaker 3>our folks who who've developed this and come up with

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<v Speaker 3>some of the messaging and some of the promotional materials

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<v Speaker 3>will be rolling.

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<v Speaker 2>Out around this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got a phenomenal job I think of tapping into

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<v Speaker 3>that American spirit, and no one better than Neil Armstrong

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<v Speaker 3>to start with.

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<v Speaker 2>That's who you know why we're launching it this.

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<v Speaker 3>Week is because he coined that phrase, right, one small

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<v Speaker 3>step for mankind one or one small step from out

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<v Speaker 3>one giant lea for mankind.

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<v Speaker 2>I pushed it totally, Brian. But the point there is

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<v Speaker 2>we all know.

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<v Speaker 3>It, and it still you know, it fires up this

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<v Speaker 3>sense of the American spirit and the folks who say it,

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<v Speaker 3>who hear it, and that's what we're wanting to tap

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<v Speaker 3>into with this campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I maybe find fault with that one as an

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<v Speaker 1>analogy because although you know, we the United States of America,

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<v Speaker 1>did send him into the moon and he did land

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<v Speaker 1>on the moon, he did jump and walk on the moon. First,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a major accomplisation that was a large government program

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<v Speaker 1>funded by taxpayer dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought of it, but it was a lot of Americans

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<v Speaker 3>who came together.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I think where we tapped.

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<v Speaker 3>Into that vision is, you know, as a country, right,

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<v Speaker 3>we united around that idea. And it's hard to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of point to in recent history some ideas whereas Americans

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<v Speaker 3>we've just sort of collectively united around them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We find ourselves divided and separated on so many issues.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think if we can kind of get ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>together around these and I think we're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>highlighting some of those different ideas and where where we

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<v Speaker 3>see these these opportunities for Americans to come together and

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<v Speaker 3>and sort of reignite those founding principles that our country

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<v Speaker 3>was started upon two hundred and fifty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I appreciate that one of the things you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be doing with this one Small Step campaign

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<v Speaker 1>is spotlighting American visionaries, inventors, the entrepreneurs that took the

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<v Speaker 1>challenge and you know, bid off some potent downside risk

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<v Speaker 1>and got around the challenges they face and created something

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<v Speaker 1>of really significant value for well, the population generally speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, inventors, for example, they create something that's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe a vaccine or a cure for something,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, somebody created the internet at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>How transformational was that? But I hope that at some

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<v Speaker 1>point in the AFP, and I know you're giving your

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<v Speaker 1>goals and your mission statement, you will be focusing on this.

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<v Speaker 1>But what drove these people to do that? And I

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<v Speaker 1>would point out and on the heels of Jack Avan

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<v Speaker 1>in my conversation, that is the opportunity to for wealth,

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<v Speaker 1>to make something that people want to make, something that

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<v Speaker 1>will go out into the world that people will buy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you become wealthy, and then you can employ other

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<v Speaker 1>people and keep this great American dream going, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and share that by employing people. And that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great things about you know, capitalism.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, And it's what has made our country so

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<v Speaker 3>exceptional for the years that it's that it's existed, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's idea that you know, folks have an idea at

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<v Speaker 3>a core level, they want to make something better for society.

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<v Speaker 3>They see a problem, and when they solve that problem,

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<v Speaker 3>they create wealth. They create opportunity, not just for themselves

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<v Speaker 3>in their families, which is a marvelous thing. But they

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<v Speaker 3>do it for the people in their community right. The jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>the opportunity that they create then creates more opportunity. It's

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<v Speaker 3>this these cycles of mutual benefit, Brian, the opportunity that

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<v Speaker 3>comes from a nation that, at its core principles believes

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<v Speaker 3>that life, liberty in the pursuit of happiness is what

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<v Speaker 3>it's all about. And those founding principles that are articulated

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<v Speaker 3>in the decoration of Atpendence and our nation's constitutions or

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<v Speaker 3>our founding documents, that's what enables those folks, those innovators,

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<v Speaker 3>those entrepreneurs, those job creators, to do what they do

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<v Speaker 3>and has made us a country of exceptionalism for so

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<v Speaker 3>many years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, Donovan, it's just not fair that

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<v Speaker 1>someone makes money. It's not fair in spite of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that all their labor, all their effort, and all

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<v Speaker 1>their trials and and and quite often multiple failures after

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<v Speaker 1>failure after failure, they keep driving toward it and then

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<v Speaker 1>they accomplish something and somebody else wants to stick their

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<v Speaker 1>hand in the pocket of the entrepreneur and take it

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<v Speaker 1>from them, just because find that's so effencive it well.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's part of what we're gonna do, right. I

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<v Speaker 3>think we're gonna be work through this campaign. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to do a good job, I hope, of talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the history, talking about the foundational principles that our organization

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<v Speaker 3>and bodies and that makes our nation great. But through that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we're actually we're an organization of action. We're

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<v Speaker 3>not just going to spend a year providing a history lesson.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to be challenging folks to take action along

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<v Speaker 3>the way, right because as you know, we know.

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<v Speaker 2>That for those.

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<v Speaker 3>Freedom and liberties are are fleeting, and we have so

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<v Speaker 3>much red tape and regulation in this country and in

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<v Speaker 3>this state, we have so much taxation, right, government coming

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<v Speaker 3>in taking money out of one person's pocket and trying

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<v Speaker 3>to put it in someone else's.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard for entrepreneurs, innovators, creators to be successful, let alone

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<v Speaker 3>hardworking blue collar americ Ohioans. Right, And so we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be using this campaign as additionally as an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about those issues, those areas for reform, the

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<v Speaker 3>ways we move Ohio from middle of the Midwest to

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<v Speaker 3>number one in the nation in AFP, Ohio get the

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<v Speaker 3>forefront of that conversation the website.

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<v Speaker 1>Take one small step dot com any calls to action

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<v Speaker 1>for my listeners beyond heading over to the website and

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<v Speaker 1>checking it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, head over the website, sol that information out, and

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<v Speaker 3>when our team members reach out to you to take

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<v Speaker 3>action and get involved, to take your one small step

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<v Speaker 3>take them up on it. From calling your state representatives

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<v Speaker 3>to tell them to override the governor's misguided vetos. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>joining us at the state House. Take that small step,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is, it makes an impact and it makes

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<v Speaker 3>a difference. So we need two hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>of them here in the state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>I know my listeners will heed the challenge. Take one

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<v Speaker 1>small step dot com, get in touch with the website

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<v Speaker 1>and help by doing just one small effort in that direction. Donaldleneo,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of veto overrides, is going to bring you back

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<v Speaker 1>in the next segment to talk about where we are

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<v Speaker 1>on that and what else we can do to assist

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<v Speaker 1>in the effort to provide a some measure of property

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<v Speaker 1>tax relief, as small as it may be. I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>It is seven forty three to fifty five KRCIT talk

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<v Speaker 1>You alluded to it call to action us calling our

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<v Speaker 1>representatives and exposed senators in Columbus and telling them to

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<v Speaker 1>override Mike Dwain's vetos at least related to the three

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<v Speaker 1>property texts relief provisions that were in the bill that

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<v Speaker 1>he vetoed. Anything beyond that and where where do you

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<v Speaker 1>stand on that? If you had interactions with the representatives

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<v Speaker 1>or senators to find out where they are on overriding

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<v Speaker 1>the veto.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've been That's sort of what we've been doing

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<v Speaker 3>right now is having a lot of conversations with numbers

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<v Speaker 3>of the General Assembly, particularly state representatives. Because the way

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<v Speaker 3>that the veto override process works is it has to

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<v Speaker 3>originate in the chamber where the bill came out of

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<v Speaker 3>and so because the budget starts in the House House

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<v Speaker 3>Bill ninety seven, the House has to take the first

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<v Speaker 3>action and do the first round of veto overrides. Then

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<v Speaker 3>it goes to the Senate, and really, honestly, the House

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<v Speaker 3>is where the challenge lies because it takes sixty votes.

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<v Speaker 2>You have sixty votes.

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans have a sixty five member majority in the House,

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<v Speaker 3>and so while that gives you a five vote buffer,

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<v Speaker 3>there's still a handful of folks right who might be

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<v Speaker 3>out of town or sick or whatever unknown reason decide

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<v Speaker 3>they don't want to vote on this thing, or want

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<v Speaker 3>to play games. And so it is an important sort

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<v Speaker 3>of rallying effort, and there's an opportunity for grassroots to

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<v Speaker 3>have an outsized impact, which is what our team's doing

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<v Speaker 3>in events and rallying folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Up and telephone.

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<v Speaker 3>Town hall is one of the things we've been hosting

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<v Speaker 3>around the state this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Good is there any opposition to the provisions? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they were in there to start with, and I still can't,

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<v Speaker 1>for the like me, figure out why Mike de want

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<v Speaker 1>and veto them, considering they were the subject matter of

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<v Speaker 1>a full year's worth of research and study.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and talking to some folks, I think what I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard is Dwine sort of didn't expect the backlash.

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<v Speaker 2>That has come from this.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what most folks who've been paying attention to

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on in Columbus have said, is like these

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<v Speaker 3>were things that were well fed.

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<v Speaker 2>It.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, I'm not being facetious. Here hundreds of hours of

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<v Speaker 3>public testimony from organizations left right and center, citizens, local

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<v Speaker 3>government officials, representatives all talking about these issues and the

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<v Speaker 3>four pieces of property tax form and these, by the way, Brian,

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<v Speaker 3>aren't the kinds of things that are you know, going

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<v Speaker 3>to deliver major transformation over bullets.

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<v Speaker 1>They're steps the measures that may help provide at least

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<v Speaker 1>provide some flexibility to maybe get bring about some property

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<v Speaker 1>tax relief. Maybe they won't, but at least they provide

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<v Speaker 1>some flexibility to provide that relief.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and so they're they're meaningful, but they are They're

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<v Speaker 3>not controversial. These are things that have been discussed and

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<v Speaker 3>it's about really resetting the equation. And that's what the

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<v Speaker 3>state legislature can do on this property tax crisis is

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<v Speaker 3>create a structure that puts the taxpayers back in the

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<v Speaker 3>dominant position. Where right now, the thirty nine hundred political

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<v Speaker 3>subdivisions and they're tens of thousands of lobbyists across the

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<v Speaker 3>state of Ohio are in the dominant position. They have

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<v Speaker 3>the advantage over the taxpayer right now. They don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to change that. At the legislature through the budget was

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<v Speaker 3>going to change some of the rules and the governor

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<v Speaker 3>to wine vetoed some of those changes that would have

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<v Speaker 3>been to the benefit of the property tax payer here

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<v Speaker 3>in the state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the shame.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we're so happy to see July twenty first

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<v Speaker 3>the House comeback for a veto override session.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and Okay, so on one side, the budget passed

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<v Speaker 1>with the provision, so one would logically think there'll be

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<v Speaker 1>enough votes to override the vetos. So that's one effort

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<v Speaker 1>we need to engage in because, of course, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>you need sixty people to do it. Are Democrats against those?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, it doesn't matter what political stripe you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Your property tax bill has gone through the roof, So

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<v Speaker 1>if it's going to maybe provide some benefit, it will

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<v Speaker 1>provide benefit to Democrats as well as Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just think the only the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I would think who would be arguing against it is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the teachers unions because somehow it might impact the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money that the schools get. But beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any organized effort to oppose the vetos?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what Yeah, You're you're spot on there, Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>The largest outside voices on this issue are teachers, unions

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<v Speaker 3>and the organizations that represent all these political subdivisions, the schools,

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<v Speaker 3>the school board officials, the townships, the villages, the cities,

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<v Speaker 3>all that. But here's the interesting thing. Well, policy can

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<v Speaker 3>be good, we know how this plays out. There's politics

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<v Speaker 3>always at play here. Yeah, and so the Democrat minority

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<v Speaker 3>has while they understand the property tax issue and they

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<v Speaker 3>I think which support should support these issues these items

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<v Speaker 3>because they've been part of those conversations, politics is at play, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Beyond that, we see this play out on the federal level.

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<v Speaker 3>We even got Republicans, Brian who use this as an

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to'll try to leverage or parlay influence or power

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<v Speaker 3>at the quite frankly, at the cost of the property

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<v Speaker 3>tax payer here in the state of Ohio. And so,

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<v Speaker 3>just like we see on the federal level with Lisa

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<v Speaker 3>Mkowski and others who play games on recisions packages that

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<v Speaker 3>should be slammed dunks for Republicans exactly on spending restraint,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got Republicans in Ohio too who try to play

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<v Speaker 3>those similar games and disrupt an opportunity to really one

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<v Speaker 3>let Governor de Wine know he's wrong in his vetos,

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<v Speaker 3>but two begin to deliver some relief for Ohioans when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to their property tax bills.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why we get a gut on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>and write letters or otherwise contact our elected officials in Columbus.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald O'Neil, the question still looming large for me out there,

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<v Speaker 1>why in the hell did the wine veto those provisions?

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<v Speaker 1>I meant, his argument for doing it is it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be studied, and he's put together this focus group

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<v Speaker 1>to study on it. That's what was happening last year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how they came up with all the various suggestions.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess three or four of which actually made

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<v Speaker 1>it into the legislation.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't get it, Donovan. I guess I never will.

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<v Speaker 1>But then again, Mike, the wine has remained a mystery

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<v Speaker 1>to me for a lot of reasons. Donald and Neil,

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<v Speaker 1>It's always great having you on, and I applaud the

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<v Speaker 1>And I look forward to talking with you again next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Donovan Ran always appreciate you string your megaphone with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great week.

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