Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to a retrospective that
has been Oh man, I think like four years.
Speaker 2: In the make, five million years in the making.
Speaker 1: Hey, okay, four years for geek. First, I am the
rock star trast now and I'm joined by.
Speaker 3: The Do you think he saw us? Kirkland Patzer?
Speaker 1: Oh god, you know what that? Yeah, he's out of here.
Speaker 4: Oh I respect that.
Speaker 2: That was great.
Speaker 4: I am the what's going on on that?
Speaker 5: Marcaster Dylans, I am the dinosaur scientist, Jessica.
Speaker 2: I am the mister DNA, Taylor Field the YNA.
Speaker 1: Yes, ladies and gentlemen. So we had talked about this
a long time agoing. No, this is not because Taylor
and I thought about this, is just we did not
have time. Taylor had made the thumbnails for the Drastic Park.
We're gonna do a Drastic Park retro when Drastic World
was coming out and it was just a busy, busy summer.
But I remember Taylor even made the thumbnails. I remember
how disappointed he was when I told him, Man, I
just don't think there's time this year to get that done.
Speaker 4: And then the same thumb nails or those I put
them in.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but there the old style.
Speaker 2: Though that they've been stewing for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't match the brand at all anymore, but
you know that's fine. And yeah, this is a build
up in honor of Jurassic World Dominion that's coming out
June ninth, slash tenth. There will be a review on
the Friday because Tay's out of wedding, so it'll be
a little bit later, but just a couple days later,
so we'll be.
Speaker 5: Wow, you're gonna pick a wedding over dinosaurs, surprising.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm I'm seeing it.
Speaker 6: I think the day of Still, the wedding's on Tuesday,
and I won't be able to make it back until
the friday, So yeah, sway, she goes, Yep, there you go.
Speaker 1: So love over Draassic World. But we are leading to that,
so we're gonna be reviewing all of them, and then
we will re release Drassic World fon Kingdom, even though
I still think it would be fun to get Kirkland
to watch it because he wanted to be on that review.
Everyone want to be on that review because they hate Yeah,
but we'll see either it's gonna be a rerelease or
we'll do another intro for it. But tar Field. I
don't this will come out. I think these will kind
of drop kind of mid days, weekend stuff like that.
But there's a lot of stuff going on. We just
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price submission right there. So, Taylor Field, you've been waiting
a long time. Like I said, you're a huge Drassic
Park fan and came up in your wedding nuptials multiple
times for your family members. You've made these thumbnails. You're
very excited. So I gotta lead off with you. What
do you think about this original film Jurassic Park, directed
by the great Steven Spielberg.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I came out last year and said
that it was my all time favorite just Grace movie
of all time, and it's.
Speaker 4: Just all it holds up.
Speaker 2: Like I lose track of how often I actually watched
The Sea year.
Speaker 6: It's something that I can just put on in the
background while I'm doing something, because I can just I
have the visual playback in my mind and I'm reciting
the lines and everything, and it's just this is something
that God, it like Alan Grant is just a character
that just reminds me of my dad in so many ways.
Speaker 2: There's so much of this movie that I just feel
like it's just.
Speaker 6: Iconic and nostalgic for me. I'll never forget when DVDs
weren't even a thing. Yeah, it was still pretty young,
and I went to like my spare room in my
parents' house and I was still really really young, and I.
Speaker 2: They had all these like what's he doing?
Speaker 1: He made some eyes you look at me, He's like,
he looks suggested at the camera. Nall, you can't.
Speaker 6: I went into the spare room and we had all
our VHS collections in there, and I.
Speaker 4: Saw this one.
Speaker 1: It's been the wrong tea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the steel cases. This is what you did. It
was called the ring on it.
Speaker 6: So I put it in the VHS and but I
had like the t Rex skeleton on it, and then
I pulled it out and I looked at the back
and it was like it's the black and red kind
of cover and it had the Brachysaurus on the back.
It just looks so cool, and so I watched it
and I was just blown away by it. That was
literally the gateway drug into this world of Jurassic Park
for me.
Speaker 5: So how old were you when you first saw it
for the first time?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: God, it was just last week. Fucking love it. God,
I don't remember. I must have been.
Speaker 1: Trying to school it were elementary or high school.
Speaker 2: I was I was elementary.
Speaker 6: I would have been probably like grade three or something
like that, or grade grade two or three.
Speaker 1: So school, high school, high school.
Speaker 6: Fuck, probably like anywhere between six to eight years old.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like this kind of started your love
of cryptids and stuff like that too, right, I feel
like there's something in there with dinosaurs.
Speaker 6: And it's possible that was the library that started me
into that, though not go.
Speaker 1: Check out Cryptic Library. Jessica. What are your thoughts on
the original Jurassic Park.
Speaker 5: I'm definitely not in the same park as Taylor where
I think this is the best movie of all time.
But I do enjoy it. It is fun to watch it
holds up. It's I couldn't even tell you the last
time I watched this. It's been years and years. You know.
I was thinking of a part with an egg that
I was waiting the whole movie for it. And apparently
it's number three that what I'm thinking of happens, you know,
So that's how much they've all bled together. But I
had fun watching it again. I probably will not watch
it again until I have another reason to. But yeah,
it's it's classic. Pulls up. It's good.
Speaker 1: Another reason to dill Mus Jurassic Park.
Speaker 4: Yeah, similar to Jessica. It's been a long time since
I've watched this, like probably at least a decade, And
you know, I probably had the intention of rewatch these
movies before that first Drastic World movie, and it was
probably yeah, just because we didn't do podcast content on it,
that I didn't end up going back. I just didn't
have the time. But Matt, I, after watched this movie
after so long, I just realized how nostalgic it is
for me. I used to love this movie. I'd watched
it all the time, and so many scenes just like
are still so familiar to me. And you know, there's
also a lot that I missed as a kid, like
this whole dynamic with like Lord Duran's character, like trying
to see if he'll be a good partner with kids,
like that whole thing. I'd never really considered that aspect
of it when I was a kid. But yeah, I
gotta say, like it really holds up in terms of
the cgi and the suspense and all that stuff. Still
a really enjoyable movie. And you know, I never really like,
I think I've seen the second one, and is there
there's a fourth? Is there a fourth?
Speaker 1: I don't know, is there a that's Jraassic World?
Speaker 4: The fourth is the Jurassic World. So yeah, I've probably
seen the third one at some point, but those ones
didn't do anything for me when I was a kid.
I don't know why. I will have to see in
the retro why that is. But this one was just
the movie that stood out to me. And you know,
I watching it again yesterday as well. Just this movie
is just so nineties. It has so much nineties energy
in it that I really liked as well. So I'm
excited to talk about this because yeah, it is like
a very like I don't know, I'd have to think,
like maybe this is one of my favorite movies of
all time. Like it's been a long time since I've
watched it, but it really is just a great film
that really holds up in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go next because I'll just school on the
order there. We'll leave Kirkham for last, so you can
get all those giggles and everything like that. But no,
I'm gonna echo a lot. They could say I'm gonna
echo a lot with Taylor says where I think there
is a finite, very small list of films that you
could say as a per movie, and I think this
is it because there's not really a single flaw I
could think about because the characters are outstanding. You don't
get deep dives in them, but you get enough of
each of the main ones to know their motivations, to
like them, to question them. The idea is just great.
Like obviously it's based off the book, which I'm sure
we'll talk about, but like, the idea is just flawless,
and it also could have been poorly executed. I feel
like this is a guy who did Jaws right, so
I think he knows the right amount of monster versus
people and stuff like that. Obviously, Jows was different because
Jaws was gonna have a bunch of the Shark. The
Shark broke down and into week two and he's like, well,
what to do about this movie? But this was a
whole different situation where he had the ability to use
all these monsters. I use all the dinosaurs, I guess
I should say, but the way he sprinkles them through
and really builds to the finale, it's just like just
a chef's kiss. Cinematography is gate the score again, same thing.
You have John Williams, who's done amazing things Harry Potter
Star Wars. But you could argue that, like they the
first time they see the dinosaurs, that might be like
his best piece of work ever. It just brings the
emotion out of you. The actors. I tell all the characters,
the actors all top not. She's just it feels like
they got this collection of people that it's very random, right,
because like Sam Neil didn't become like a big star.
He's Sam Neale. People like him. Laura Durton's note is
like a really good actor or actress, and she's like, again,
never been a main star. Golblulm has never been a
main guy. He got more popular, but still I feel
like this is the height of Goldblum when he perfects
the weirdness but still normal, where sometimes he goes way
too overboard. Like this movie just really feels like and
of course seems Spielberg did the sequel, so you could
kind of use that as evidence, but this just feels
like Lightning in a bottle where it was perfect timing,
perfect place, perfect crew, cast, everything, and there's so many
iconic every time I go to watch this movie because
I have seen I don't know if I've say much
just Taylor, but I watched this one. So like the trilogy,
I had that box set of one and two. Taylor,
did you have that box set of one and two
before three was out?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have to find it. But it was like
a like a Jurrassic Rex t Rex and stuff like that.
But anyways, and then there was built up to the
third one, which had that nice silver case. But I
watch these movies on repeat, so anytime I go to
watch it, I think this is probably like a once
a year watch. But anytime I go to watch it,
I kind of go, oh, am, I gonna get the
same enjoyment because I kind of know the beats so
well and everything. But there's just one classic moment or
scene after another. And this is one thing where I'll say,
is the humor in this is spectacular, Like it's always
placed at the right moment. It's not too much. Even
in a serious scene, they hit it perfectly if it's there,
but they usually don't. And the steaks are great. And yeah,
it's just from start to finish you're intrigued. And I
agree with Dylan. The more older I've gone, the more
I like it because there's stuff, there's stuff with Newman.
Then you actually know what's going on with the actually
I'm trying to steal the DNA stuff, Like I had
no idea as a kid, like Ellie said, whosh, Like
I had no idea what the fuck was going on
that plot? Like why why is he running? Why is
he a hacker? And stuff? But yeah, phenomenal. One of
the greatest movies of all time, if not the greatest
movie all time.
Speaker 7: Kirkham batser, Yeah, I mean shit on it.
Speaker 3: So this is no Jurassic World Falling Kingdom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3: Emotional time now. I fucking love this movie.
Speaker 7: It was one of those of just yeah, I think
I had on like VHS way back in the day
and it just it completely blew my mind of just
what it's like what a movie was at that time.
I think for me, I was watching just like cartoons
and then this is like a big cinematic monster type movie.
But like it's said about like dinosaurs, and like what
kid doesn't find dinosaurs interesting? Especially if you watch this movie, right,
So it just taught like I think it was just
such a perfect age to like first discover this and
again it just completely blew my mind for what the
dinosaurs looked like and how terrifying they were. Like there's
so many moments in this movie it's just it's literally
like a monster for like especially like the intent, like
the specific raptor scene with Laura Dern, and like just
some of like the like the action, just the action
sequences or maybe like the camera angles that they use.
It's just it makes me chuckle of like it's just
so funny how like this is like a classics are
like shot in my eyes for that specific scene, but
you got to give it credit, like it just it
really made that scene very scary, and it happens many
times throughout the entire series, but definitely in this movie
with just other carnistour dinosaurs that are threatening our heroes.
But yeah, man, I absolutely love this movie. This is
one I think it's just gonna stand the test of time.
Like it's the use of the practical effects. It really
helped it a lot of just aging. Well, there is
obviously some CGI moments in there, but they're they're limited
to like when it's necessary. The animatronics look really good,
all the actings, like just it's just classic at this
point where like I feel like maybe I could be like, oh,
the acting is kind of cheesy at this point, but
it's I can't even because I just have so much
nostalgia for it where I wouldn't change anything.
Speaker 3: About this movie.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's it's a special one. I'm saying to
talk about specifics, especially just going like starting this retro
because I've seen this one definitely the most out of
all of them, but like it's I remember having like
good times about the third one, So it's so funny
because I haven't seen the third one a long time,
so it's gonna be fun to like revisit it.
Speaker 1: Ages Well then I won't go that far, but it's
definitely enjoyable time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, exactly, so I again just I'm excited to
jump into it with freshet eyes. For this movie, I've
definitely seen it, like if it wasn't probably at the
end of last year, so like less than six months
i'd seen this one. It's it's just a really easy
movie to put on for me. It's so funny. This
is like the first retro where Shay was like really
pumped actually jump into Actually maybe the Harry Potter one.
She was she was pumped for that one too. But uh, normally,
whenever I have a podcast movie, especially I feel like
the Patreons ruined it for her. Anytime I'm like, oh,
I got a Patreon movie, I gotta watch as not interested.
Speaker 3: But for Jurassic Park, she was pretty pumped.
Speaker 1: So, oh, Retrospect not one of those again.
Speaker 3: Fuck, I've had some some wild Patreon picks.
Speaker 5: So, but nonetheless, Jurassic Park so looking at because obviously
this came out of it ninety three, number two came
out in ninety seven, and then the third came out
in two thousand and one, So I'm guessing that everyone
probably picked this up because of the hype of the
third one just based on ages.
Speaker 1: Uh No, I think I were around Lost World because
you said, what was a ninety.
Speaker 4: Five or ninety seven ninety seven?
Speaker 1: So to break k fape here, I was actually four
or five at that point, so that was around the
time I was watching like Batman eighty nine, Superman like,
so I feel like it would have been that rotation
of like my parents let me watch him fucked up
shit Tah, that age I was watching Chucky. So I
think around Lost World is probably stuck because I remember that,
you know, Carl's gonna be somewhere to make for my
dead grandpa. The last movie I ever went to go
see if my grandfather was Durssic Park three, because I
bought him a ticket for his birthday and then he
passed away like a few months later. So that's where
I think after the two, whether it came out or
the build up, it was in the rotation of movies
for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't think of like how old I was.
I just remember we specifically had a VHS of it
at like my parents bought and so at some point
I watched it, probably for the same reason as Taylor,
as there's a dinosaur on the front of it. I'm like,
I'm into that. But yeah, I don't. I don't think
I didn't didn't see any of them in theaters until
of course Jurassic World, but none of the none of
the old ones. And yeah, like I don't think my
I don't know if my parents even never saw the
third one or the second one, Like they didn't carry either,
they were just in it for the original.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 7: I've seen any of them in theaters except for like
Jurassic World, the Chris Pratt ones. So I I don't
think I even owned the third one, but I definitely
know that we had the first two like on VHS,
so that again, that was just the rotation thing to
throw in there.
Speaker 3: I feel like at the time, I didn't.
Speaker 7: Even realize that they're like in a specific order. It
would just like throwing in and they'd be like, yeah,
I don't remember these scenes.
Speaker 3: But it's just like a different movie entirely.
Speaker 7: It's it's interesting looking back at that time when like
my parents were never like movie people or like theater people.
Speaker 3: So it's just like I ever had the movie.
Speaker 7: You just had the movies that were like in in
the house, right, So it's just yeah, like what Taylor said, finally,
one with the cool cover.
Speaker 4: I will say I was young enough that they like
scared the shit out of me as a kid. Specifically,
I remember, I think it's the second one. When when
is it when there's like a dinosaur like near like
a swimming pool in like a like and a house. Yeah,
very distant memory that, but I remember that like terrified
me as a kid for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny, brother, because when we were watching that,
I was like, Oh, we'll watch Jurassic Park with the family,
and I was like, like, I don't know, like they're
a little young. I'm like, she's watched like enough, she
she should be fine at this. And she's like, yeah,
that raptor scene in the end the movie just terrified
me and legitim league when was fine and she got
through because it was quick, But that was the only time.
She's like like that that wraps same thing like all
the DNAs there. But other than that, she got she
got through it good. She enjoyed her time and stuff
like that. Plus there's something there just speaking about DNA.
She like checks out for half an hour, so I
come back when the dinosaurs are on.
Speaker 6: So as far as like the theatrical aspect, as you
guys are all touching upon that. In twenty thirteen, they
did a three D re release Drastic Park, and that
one was when I was when I first got to
see it in theaters my friends, and that was really cool.
But during the whole COVID thing, theaters are playing all
the reruns. So that gave me the opportunity again because
they put the original Drastic Park in theaters and now
I got to see my family, so that was even better.
Speaker 2: And then I didn't think they would do it, but
they went ahead.
Speaker 6: And they did Jurassic Park two in theaters and that
was the cherry on top seeing that on the big screen.
Speaker 4: I wanted to do number three.
Speaker 6: But I did see number three when I was a
kid in theaters, so I have like the faintest memories
of seeing theater.
Speaker 2: I've seen them all. That's on my bucket list. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't put three there because Spielbird in directed.
They're like, Ahna, we're not going to put that. It
was Joe Johnston Johnson, Yeah, who did Rocketeer and Captain America,
the first Avengers. So yeah, what do you want to
you start your drass Parker, what do you want to
talk first, you got a pacific scene, a character. Where
do you want to start this journey?
Speaker 6: Let me just start right at the beginning, like you
were touched upon the score with John Williams, but like
things that just kind of segue into the events of
just the helicopter arriving at easily newblar That score like
that is one of the most iconic tracks I think
of all time, and it's just so so beautiful and
just peak. But this is when you really get to
see an introduction to the characters. You see in Malcolm
already flirting with Ellie, you know, with Alan Grant and
they're obviously in a relationship, and Alan Grant just kind
of like keeping to himself in the dynamic, and John
Hemmon trying to control the situation, and the lawyer just
being uncomfortable. I just liked how this is like the
group together and we get to see their characters kind
of expressed, you could say. And then all the foreshadowing
in this scene too is just great.
Speaker 1: So you took me for a loop, you said the beginning,
but then I feel like you jumped like at least
twenty Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't mean like the very very beginning, but I
don't like this beginning.
Speaker 4: I want to go comment on that, because you know
some of lot obviously there's scenes that are nostalgic for me,
but like how it all pieced together is something that
was kind of having to remember as it goes. As
I was watching it, and man, the first like twenty
fifteen minutes of this movie jump to like four different places,
I was like quite surprised. It's like, here's this other
random country where in and obviously it ties together and whatnot,
But I just at first, I was like, I don't
know if I'm gonna like, I don't know. This has
hit me a bit weird. I wasn't expecting some of
this strange storytelling with all these places we go to.
It's just the very beginning. It never really happens again
after that, you stay in the one place. But it
was kind of surprising to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they do a good job of introducing
all the characters because they, like I said before, they
introduced the motivations and it's such a simple Okay, so
you have this, and I would have loved to been
a not a fine wall, but I adulted that point,
Like the trailers and the build up to the movie.
But when you just watched the movie as is, because
they saved the dinosaur revealed to later on, obviously get
the really scary beginning with the cages and the raptors
are like tearing those people. Probably that's some scary stuff
right there. The way that shot, like that centatography shot
of the hand just is like going through the other
person's hands, Like, man, that's that's dire straits right there.
But I love that they take this huge unrealistic concept,
hopefully unrealistic of we've brought dinosaurs dinosaurs back right for
the first like half an hour, they don't say that
at all, They just like insinuate it. You see the dinosaurs,
but just John Hamm and being like, I really need
you for something. I think you'll really appreciate it. And
I love that in this unrealistic world, the idea is
I got a park, right to go, billion dollar idea,
but I need like legal and all this clear and
something that if it were to happen, let's say, to
more we did wake up, you'd need a whole bunch
of people to clear this thing. And that's where it
kind of grounds it right away. And I also to
the people That's where I sometimes go. You look at
you know, future movies, you go, why it's Priceyles? How
are always on these adventures?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: Stuff like that. With this, each character makes sense of
why they're there. It's not just Okay, a random person's
here because they're a great actor we need to roll.
It makes sense why Sam Neil's there and Ellie's there
and I guess I don't know why I'm going back
and work for their names. But and same with Ian
Malcolm and stuff like that, like they all have a purpose.
And even John Ham you know your favorite there, Dylan
Richard Adam Burrow, you know he's great in this. He's
such like a isn't that the guy? Isn't that? Oh?
Are they related?
Speaker 4: I believe they're related.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what they say.
Speaker 6: BRTT noticed, right, because like Ryan Reynolds is like making
fun of it, and the Rocks like no, you're thinking
of like the other Attenborough from Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2: He's like no. The visions based on movement.
Speaker 1: Like one, I'm very impressed you remembered anything from Red
Nose because I frobably got that as a movie. And
two yeah, because when I saw them, like oh, Dylan's
gonna love this Addinborough is.
Speaker 4: In it because he had no idea.
Speaker 1: Because the first year that came up. But no, I
just think they define the characters roles really well, even him,
and like he's likable, but he's just that shady cars
deal salesman you've dealt with every time, and even that
first kind of hell clopped a ride when they're kind
of questioning, he's like, I brought you here to be
on my side and stuff like that. Like all this stuff,
like they really well defined characters right away.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 7: I feel like that's another thing that I just I
didn't even think about when I was younger, as opposed
to like watching it as an adult, is like the
reason why all these characters are there, Like I like
as a young kid when when he goes there to
their dig site and he's like basically just stating that
he's gonna fund their research for like three years, like
if you just come and check out this park, but
it's very shady, honestly, it's like just just sign off
on and I'll pay.
Speaker 3: For your for all your funding for three years.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, super shady.
Speaker 7: Guy off the hot but like they're super pumped, and
as a kid, I'm just like, oh, they're just excited
to go Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3: I understand like the.
Speaker 7: Reason there, and then it also ties into like why
that what is he he's like an insurance guy there,
It's yeah, and it's all tied to that scene from
the beginning, where like he's literally just there because someone
some of the family is suing for twenty million dollars
because a dinosaur hate someone, which is you know, if
dinosaur's work going back, that'd be a very real thing
that's happening, right, like in just the legality of the situation.
So yeah, no, I agree with what you're saying of
just like early in the film, they do a good
job of just stating who these players are and why
they're there, and yeah, it's it's believable there. I still
kind of I'm like Ean Malcolm, Okay, this guy mathematician probablyilt.
Speaker 4: Like Chao Tessian.
Speaker 2: Chao Tessian.
Speaker 1: He was right on his assessment rough right. He said
that he was the first guy like this place is fucked,
like it's you're doomed, like it's over for you, and
they feel.
Speaker 7: Like the whole character of him, it's just like this
rock star shirts off, just looking looking hot, flirting with
all the the He's look.
Speaker 1: My god, Jeff, he's looking goodness movie.
Speaker 7: He's like I think when I was later in life,
being like, oh, he's the mathematician, and it's.
Speaker 3: Just like, no, he's fucking out.
Speaker 7: He's just the hot guy to tag along with the
with the other nerds, with the crew. The Yeah, I'll
give it a past because I like to have Jeff
Goldblum in there, but it's still funny.
Speaker 3: They can just the chaotsh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I was just gonna jump in on the character
of John Hammond because I feel like, yeah, just like
as a kid, he very much feels just like the
Monopoly guy, like kind.
Speaker 1: Of vibe and Colonel Sanders.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. And but I found him so interesting this
time around because there actually is some more depth to
him where yeah, he's doing that shady stuff at the beginning,
but then there's also these parts where the lawyer's talking
about like all the money that you can rake in
with this, and he's like, no, I want it to
be affordable for everyone. But then the lawyer makes some comment,
some other comment, and he's like, yeah, we like a
lot of money off of this, so there's kind of
like these two sides to it. But I just found
it so interesting that like the whole time, he's just
seeking the validation of these scientists, Like he just wants
their approval of this. He wants them to like just
applaud what he's doing. And I just found that part
of it really interesting. I guess I didn't really think
about that element of it and where he's coming from.
But yeah, he also like sends his kids on or
his rand kids on this adventure. Yeah, very risky move.
So he's I feel like he is a very dynamic
character and for I don't know, I guess he does
have a good amount of screen time, but he's definitely
not like the star of the movie. But I feel
like he was very captivating to me. And if you know,
if they were doing a rankings at the end of
this Jurassic thing, like he's one of the top villains
in a way because he is so interesting.
Speaker 5: He definitely has trying to like keep Grant in order
as well, you know, breaking out of the rides and
getting off vehicles things like that, so you know, for
his character to try and keep everything in line, that
was one thing. I you know, didn't pick up on
it as a kid. I was just like, oh, yeah,
you know, doctor Grant's gonna go do whatever. But now
it's just like, God, doctor Grant's an asshole. I feel
bad for him trying to break all of his park
to go see these dinosaurs.
Speaker 6: I like that scene when Jeff Goldblum just like it's
John Evans looking through the camera and he like taps
on the glass, like, oh, dinosaurs on this tour.
Speaker 2: That seems just so.
Speaker 1: This man. I hate this man so much. Yeah, well
that's the good thing I like abou him because, like
emlcom the whole time, he's like, yeah, this is not
gonna work out. But then I like that even when
it's such a good mix of emotion between Grant and
Ellie when they see the dinosaurs and they're overcome with emotion,
but then when they get back to the park they're
kind of like, I don't know if you should be
doing this, this is questionable and things like that. But
then they keep going through the park and they see
these dinosaurs and she sees the one that's sick and
wants to help it. So I like that they never
until obviously the very end, like the one liner of
like I've on her great consideration, this park is not
my approval and him's like mine either. Any drives away,
But I love the whole movie that Ian. You know,
he's pretty sending his ways, but he gets taken out
by a t rex later on. So the two like
main characters. I feel they're never one way or another strongly,
which is good because I feel like you'd be in
that camp too. Becauld be like, Oh, it'd be awesome
to have this park with dinosaurs and experience all this.
But at the same point, obviously the danger factor is high.
Now again obviously he gets what's tear? What's the actual
character's name not Newman? What is the guy who steals
all the craft? Dennis Drie Yeah, okay the song astill
just call him Newman? Uh? He like, obviously you got
to go and wonder what would happen in the park
if he didn't screw a bunch of stuff up, right,
because that's where it really collapses. But still, if it's
a couple of power outages that takes this park and
just makes it a death, you know, shrap, not really
worth the time. But I like the characters never really
jumping one side and then till the final resolution of
the movie, which makes sense.
Speaker 7: And I like how even before they're just saying like
this is unsafe, this is just wild. Like when they're
on the tour, doctor Grant is just basically talking about
like how unnatural it is, just like be feeding a
t rex like at like like what's the line he
says like he doesn't want to be fed, he wants
to hunt, Like this is just so unnatural for like
them to just be in the So he's just dropping
lines like that.
Speaker 3: Even before he's just straight up saying like this's.
Speaker 7: Just a there's just like a risk to the to
the the guests that come here, just just the whole
idea of it is just so unnatural. And Yeah, I
like how it shows sides of them actually being very
again like this is what they study, Like they would
have given anything to see dinosaurs in real life, and
they are seeing that. And then when they kind of
get they can breathe a little bit, and then like
like just thinking of the realism, like the the realistic
nature of what's going on here. They do a really
good job of just flushing out those kids. As you
were saying, like if if our protagonists were just like
this is this is fucking awesome, like us, the viewer
would just be totally taken them on it. It's like,
this isn't a bad idea at all. So I like
how it showed both sides for for all the characters.
Maybe as you're saying, like Ian was never really for
it at all, but.
Speaker 1: He's alred have a good time. He's he's he's definitely
comedic relief in a sense, but he is smart. He
brings it. Like I think that's what Golblum loses later
on in the movies, that they just play up his character,
but he brings up lots of good points of chaos,
fury and like it's it's a dumb but this movie's
so good at exposition, like the way he explains it
with the water, like oh look, grips down arm the
interests and I love that Grant has not like he
does not care about this theory at all, but it's
such a cool way to do that explanation of oh no,
this is chaos theories. The water dripped down this way,
but this time it could go a little different, and
he gets I was like, oh, Grant, see I would
never would have predicted he got out. Oh I never
pretty did do that. So between that and the I
still think the best use of exposition ever of all
time is the DNA video because that is such a
smart way, because usually you're supposed to do the show
don't tell, right, This is five minutes of like telling
you everything, but they do in such a fun, cartoony
like hooks you in way. It doesn't feel like they're
just like imagine if ham And just sat down and
told them all like what happened. This is such a
clever way.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I will just my last thing on Ian
there is when I was younger, I always just saw
him as like that character in the Leather Jacket mister Coole,
also just like the comedy, like where he would just
have the humor wrapped around him. But as I've watched
this film, like as as adults, you know, like actually
like grasping everything that's going on, it's like, oh my god,
he's actually not a fucking idiot, Like he actually has
some really great lines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 7: Just so funny that he's just so like he's just
easily seen as that cool guy with the leather jacket,
handsome man on screen. That's just like kind of maybe
putting a little bit of a wedge between our two lovers,
between Ellie and and doctor Grant there. But you can
really appreciate him, I guess as a character. I suppose
just handsome man.
Speaker 6: You can feel his fear at times too, Like we'll
get to the scene later, but when he's in the
back of the jeep and he's like, that's an impact term,
that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Fairly alarmed here, Like.
Speaker 6: He starts to feel panic for this guy just crippled
the back, can't go anywhere.
Speaker 4: I'm glad that you have like every single line just
like ready to go at it.
Speaker 2: I can quote this movie out the lazoo.
Speaker 3: Well, they correct me on this quote, Taylor.
Speaker 7: What is Grant says when like one of the greatest
scenes ever in film with like the first t Rex scene,
when like there's the jeeps and everything, but like Grant
goes and checks on the kids and then Ian's like,
are the kids scared or what?
Speaker 3: Does he say?
Speaker 7: Something like like something about being scared, But Grant is like, no,
the kids are fine.
Speaker 3: Are you scared? He's like, no, I'm not scared, And.
Speaker 7: Like, but like the way that he said it, specifically
with the line he didn't say like, are the kids scared?
Speaker 3: She just said something about yeah, yeah, just great.
Speaker 1: I think he shooting. Jeff always says like he's chewing gum,
but he's not chewing you know quiet you have very
quietly chewing gum and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: One part I didn't really pick up on before is
that when he finds out that, uh, Grant and I'm
trying to have the Ellie are together, he like lays
off at that point, And I like that touch because
he's not just like a total douchebag. Obviously, he's got
his shirt off and he's laying on that thing when
he needs to get operated on, but he's not like
trying to like seduce her at that point. It's just
how he is. But yeah, I like when he finds
out that he he kind of just simmers off at
that point. And you know, they're also not together for
a while until things go down, so he's obviously not
gonna be as light hearted at that point when they're
running for their lives. But I thought that I had
a little bit of nuance to the character as well,
that he isn't just this single sided like douchebag character, because.
Speaker 1: Oh, go ahead, Oh I was just gonna say, that's
the easy like knee jerk reaction is just to keep
doing that throughout the movie and cause like drama that's
not there, and they didn't even have dramas, like don't
something about before, Like it's just a subtle thing going
on between Ellie and al and as far as like
you can, the movie starts with him being not like
he's not a fan of kids. He's scaring the ship
that kid at the beginning, and then he like slowly
works with these kids and in the end he's holding
the kids. Now that's where it works better than the
one movie thing, because Drastic three completely wreckons this because,
like they get they'd break up because he doesn't want
to have kids, and it's like, well, I thought that's
kind of the point of the first movie that showed
that he'd be cool with kids and everything, but when
it came to it, he's like absolutely not Ali. That
was just like that was a one time thing. But
in this movie, when I just look at it by itself,
it's a perfect like mini arc with those two. So
it's good that he's not constantly in there being like,
oh you're with this loser because he never brings Alan
down either, like they have some like face offs, but
it's never in like a macho macho douchey way. It's
just like in different ideologies and that's kind of it.
So I agree on that.
Speaker 2: What's your uh, can you do your Ian Malcolm?
Speaker 5: Laugh?
Speaker 2: Travis, I know you got one.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I got You're put him on
the spot before I have. But I feel like on
this I've never I just done naturally.
Speaker 4: Is it Ian Malcolm or is it a Jeff Goldbloom
and general.
Speaker 1: That's straight, It's kind of just both. Yeah, definitely and
Malcolm because I feel like I feel like I've definitely
seen him the most in this and other than Chicks
from Out of Earth Girls are Easy. I don't know
the fly I'm trying to think of like other movies
I've seen him in a lot of but it's definitely
this But yeah, it's that one laugh like in the
middle of but he has the gum again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Taylor, What so the t Rex is animatronic? Correct?
Speaker 2: A bit of both practical CGI and was.
Speaker 5: There anything else that they use animatronics for in this.
Speaker 6: Of the triceratops, the velociraptors, and the bracy saurus head
when it was like eating out of the tree. Yeah,
I think the Delaphosaurus as well.
Speaker 2: I believe that's it.
Speaker 4: Probably for like some parts of the velociraptors and like
like I'm thinking like in the kitchen when he taps
his nail off the ground, But that's probably you know,
just a part of one, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they Again that's something I just I applaud them
for doing in this movie. It was just this right
balance between the two. And again some of the scenes
in Broad Daylight a CGI holy shit, like we're in
twenty twenty two and it looks pretty damn good, which
is astounding.
Speaker 1: It looks better than a lot of other things. Was
a sad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I just I really love that so very much. Again,
the whole dark sequence with the t Rex, just in
the rain and everything else, some of the best it's
so so good and just when it like breaks down
to the glass and everything, that's just one of the
most iconic things in cinema.
Speaker 2: It's at least to me, of all time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it like really builds up to that moment too, right,
I think what Travis said of or I forget who
commented on, but like, yeah, you're not seeing any dinosaurs really,
even though they're on this tour and there's poster, so
you're just waiting for that moment obviously with the goat,
with the like weather slowly getting worse than the water.
And then I also love that the I for totally
forgot about the spy kids like goggles that he has
in there, Like I just love I want one of
those on my shelf. I love the look of that thing.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, that's one of the greatest scenes in history.
Just builds up like what Kirkin took about the goat
and everything. It's great that first time you go with
the t rex. You know, they see the goat. It's
broad daylight. Oh it's boring, No, TX, they come back,
the goat's still there. So it's like this sign of like, yeah,
again he doesn't want to eat he once to hunt.
Power is down and again they like smart choice. Whoever
had the idea, whether it was editor or Spielberg, but
the fact the movie has so much great score, but
there's no score at all in that scene it's just
pure silence. It's the rain, it's it's the car and everything,
and just the build up of okay, the power's out,
you see the thing, the guy running when you gotta go,
you gotta go, the bathroom kill and stuff like that,
the kids and you just want, yeah, you just want
them to stop moving everything like that, and it just
continually gets worse, where Alan Grant fixes the situation by
throwing the flare and Ian's like got the kids and
you're like, no, get back. Like this is where it
shows yeah he's an athetician, but he's not a dinosaur expert.
But just it keeps leveling up and leveling up, and
like that scene in the best way, it feels like
it's an hour long and just like they just make
you sue it and you you probably I don't know
what people were thinking back then. Also we've seen the movie,
so you probably not thinking they're gonna kill these kids,
but legitimately, even as watching movie, like they're gonna kill
these kids, Like there's no way they can get at
It's like the shots that they have that like you're
talking about the glass coming down and just the mud
when the mud sinks into it's just it. It's just
a top notch fantastic see like and again that dinosaur
that's amate trunk, that thing looks complet depletely real moves
and even then like there's a couple of shots of
it far out, but for the majority of the first
part it's just like the eye and the window like
even see like his like Retina like go like bigger
and longer with the flashlight and everything like. It's just
a perfect scene. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, I agree that kind of what next?
Speaker 1: What next?
Speaker 3: To SCE?
Speaker 4: You know, one actor that I completely forgot was in
this movie is Sam Jackson, And I gotta say I
just loved watching him every single scene talking with a
cigarette in his mouth, bounces up and down the whole time.
Yeah that one say, when he's on the computer and
you're just talking for like fifteen seconds straight, the go
on the whole time. But yeah, I just I just
completely forgot he was in this But I mean, I
don't know if there's should break down with his character,
but I gotta ask what happened with him at the end,
because I feel like we just skipped to they left
the room, like that room with all the computers and
he was still in that room, I think, and then
like we just never see him again, even though they.
Speaker 1: Go w saw him again.
Speaker 6: They went because at the and they went to the
security shed, right, and then he went to the maintenance
shed to kind of reboot the system. And then that's
when the raptors got him.
Speaker 1: So that arm that falls on Ellie, that's his arm.
Speaker 4: I thought that was the like the I don't know
what the word is, like medic person that uh Ellie
was like working with on the whatever dinosaur.
Speaker 2: Oh no, doctor Harding. I believe he got out.
Speaker 1: He made a doctor because I think where arm falls
and she calls that leave as she's like, oh, Sam Jackson,
and then she pulls off the arm.
Speaker 2: Oh mister Arnold, yeah, mister Arnold.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And again it's such a great reveal, like we know,
like look at the shot, like that arm's not there,
but it's so good. And that whole stuff with the
rappers is scared.
Speaker 4: Totally went over my head. I think I thought that
like it was like a white person's arm or something.
I don't know why. I just like that that's exactly
what I did not see.
Speaker 1: Tell Jackson and you're like no, that's a white Well.
Speaker 4: There you go. That was my main question what happened
to him? Because I also was wondering, like there's a
ton of scientists we're seeing, like obviously there's other people
on this island, and you don't you don't need to
go through all of them. But I don't know. Did
they all just evacuate at some point? Are there's there's
some other bunkers. Are they all dead, like every single
one of them.
Speaker 2: With the storm hitting.
Speaker 6: I think it was the notion was everyone was evacuated,
because that's what they emphasize, that, like drop what you're
doing and leave now, like you need to go.
Speaker 4: So I guess they took what a hell whatever helicopters
they did have there and just pieced out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just surprised that Sam Jackson's such a big start.
Now they didn't try wreck coon like, oh he just
lost his arm, you know, but he's back, Like that's still.
Speaker 3: A chip, bigger cigar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they couldn't. You get radar nowadays, if you smoke
in a movie now you get a radar rating.
Speaker 4: So he's not even smoking it though, it just sits
in it true.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just yeah, when he first came on screen,
I was just like, oh, that looks like Sam Jackson.
Then you know, I said to myself, I'm like, oh,
that's that's bad. That's like a stereotype that everyone looks
the same. And then he came want screen again, I'm like, no,
that really looks like Sam Jackson. I googled it it
was and I was just like, man, that took me
way longer to realize than it should have because he had.
Speaker 1: A little hair. You look at him in the older years,
he had some hair going on. You know, he adds a.
Speaker 5: Good level thirty years ago, like he was young.
Speaker 4: He was, you were young, Samuel, he had how old
he was supposed to be in Captain Marvel when they
went back to the n was the relief that wait,
is that what the collector or that whatever Jeff Goldblum's
character look like in Ragnarock back in the nineties two,
did he look the same as he does?
Speaker 1: Well, they didn't de age him. He just never ages, remember.
Speaker 4: Right, right, that's his power here, the.
Speaker 6: Things that he does with like with Dennis Naderie where
he's like again, it's the way they shoot these scenes too,
because like he like leans over and it's just like
a blurt out backshot of his head and he's like
Dennis the Headlights.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I'll buck the two a program.
Speaker 6: When I get okay, it doesn't move, and Denn it's like, okay,
a lot of computer cycles.
Speaker 2: System will be down for a while.
Speaker 6: He's just he's just swings back over or he's just
like I hate this hacking crap. But he's in his
mouth and he's like swearing at the computer.
Speaker 3: You didn't say the magical rand, not just the gold line.
Speaker 5: Could we do an episode where you just recreate the
entire script?
Speaker 1: Do you think I was gonna say? I think it's
like an extra life charity stream thing where to reenacts
the you know, the movie and everything like that. So
I because I feel like the first time this kind
of conversation I must have been a meme or something.
Because the dots and thing that's when you shared with me, Taylor,
that came up a lot like oh, don't tell any
when I'm here dots and no one cares Dotson's here, and.
Speaker 4: Like it's I fucking love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's interesting that, like, I don't think that's
the weakest, partly because I don't think there's a week
part because you need that. That's the part like I
care the least about. But I think it's good that
it's not in the movie that much. I like that
there's this little subplot it messes up the island and
he ends up dying. And Taylor told me that they
based a video game off that, which is fucking crazy
to me. But I like that, yeah Telltale game, Yeah,
off that little canister going. But I like also to me,
like the t Rex scene, I definitely would not want
to be in that situation. Great scene and this scene's
not better than it. But man, what is that thing called? Taylor?
I've always always forget it that that I'll take the
t Rex any day because fuck that thing. That thing
has scared me forever, the fact that it does that
makes that sound and spits like some goo at it.
But again it's it's like.
Speaker 2: It's like a snake, isn't it one hundred percent?
Speaker 1: But like except the rattling is not on the tail,
it's on its head. But just like just again the
buildup of like I feel like when they animate it
without the flaps, it does look fine or nice. It's
a smaller dinosaur and she's like, oh, you're on the stick,
and he throws it, and just this build up like
every time he turns around, this thing's a closer and
a little closer, and then it shoots him and and
then he like walks away and then it's just in
the car and you can't escape this thing and it
tears the part that is still the most scary that like, fuck, man,
they've not used that enough of the New This movies.
I wish they did, but yeah, that that is the
scariest scene for me, that dinosaur right there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was one of those scenes that definitely stuck
with me as a kid. It's just like the way
that it starts out where it just seems like a
lot less threatening of a of a dinosaur, and he's
just kind of playing it off like kind of just
shit talking anyways, like like get.
Speaker 3: Him fitch a stick. He's like, eh, no, wonder you're extinct.
Like it's just total asshole this thing.
Speaker 7: And then it just kind of sticks with them, and
then when it eventually flaps, Yeah, he's so fucked by
that point, like you already you already dropped the barbasol
that had all the embryos, like he's already fucked and
he's just trapped in this in this tiny little suv
with just goo in his eyes. That's I always assumed
that was like acid. Is that basically what that is?
It seemed like it was burning. I mean, might might
have just got into his eyes so he threw some
dirt in his eye, that for sure. But uh yeah, no,
that that scene definitely freaked me out as a kid.
I don't think as much as the Raptor scene with
Laura Derham, because that's that's like meant to be like
a like a horror film shot where just like it
would go to like the camera angle of like the
raptor's feet like running at her like that one is
meant to like really freaky out. But this one definitely
stuck with me. Just yeah, I think same thing. It's
like I never want to fucking encounter that type of
creature with the flaps.
Speaker 4: At all, speaking of that guy. Like the scenes that
stand up to me. Of course, that t Rex scene
with the rain and and the kitchen scene alway stood
out to me, but also the one that's like maybe
stands out the most. And it's not even that it
stands out just like in my head, I can picture
it is when he takes the barbersal like canister and
he's in that little room and he's pulling out the
little croygenic things and the kind of smoke comes out
of that when he opens it up. I don't know why,
just the sound effects of that particular scene, and I
think it's mostly the sound effects. Honestly, it's like always
stuck with me. I don't know why. That's like one
of the top scenes that does like circulates in my
brain constantly. But I don't know why. It's always stood out.
Speaker 1: To me satisfying scene, you know.
Speaker 6: I think another prominent scene for me is the after
the build up of Ellie leaving and we get.
Speaker 2: The legendary Muldoon, Robert Muldoon, the game warden.
Speaker 6: Nah, he's just like sneaking through the bush and he's
just like I love.
Speaker 4: He's so good it should be destroyed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so good. But he's just like I got
her and he's like five.
Speaker 7: The classic outback type character, just crocodile.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he's just he spends like ten minutes going
through the bush and just the slow build up of him,
just the sweat is just just pouring down in his face,
and he's just like cocking his gun and you see
the raptor in the distance and like, yeah, it's just
such a build up and.
Speaker 3: Picks his hat off, ceremonies his hat off.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just such a good foreshadow to when he's
just uh explaining it, or when Alan Grant's explaining at
the beginning to the kid just decking him out, Like
you know, the attack comes from the side, from the
other raptor. You didn't even know where it was there,
and uh, when that raptor just comes out of the bush,
it's great because I don't think the audience, you know,
first time movie goers, you don't expect that, you don't
remember that, and it just happens and you just know, like, fuck,
this thing is really like a like twelve inches away,
like a foot away from this guy's fucking face if
that so you know he's locked.
Speaker 1: But he just shot it before he dropped that one
liner though he had to drop that and then go,
you know he should have shot.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I don't he's speaking out of fear. Oh,
I think she definitely heard him, but I mean he
definitely turned to get a shot off, Like he wasn't
going out without a fight.
Speaker 1: So like if he would not have turned, would he
have been okay?
Speaker 2: Like if he just like pretended like pretended like he
didn't know it was there and just kept moving forward.
Speaker 5: Girl. No.
Speaker 1: And then the raptors I love like because they are
they're just the they are the like they're all they're
villains like the dinosaurs, but they just build them up
so good, like they're the first kill that in the movie,
Like when we talk about what you were talking about
with Alan Granny song with a kid and what they
would do and the first baby or whatever he holds
a dinosaur is that he's like kind of in shock
and in fear that they're breeding raptors and stuff like that.
Like again he's still excited, but he just knows what
this could be. It is constantly building up and you
never see them. I looked at it. You don't see
them to me like an hour thirty four into the movie,
And because they are kind of like the final boss
when you see them and it makes an impact. So
I love just the constant reminders of like you want
to see them, want some and you never do them.
When they do Oh, they just wreck shop on our characters,
especially you know, Ellie does not deserve a very caring character.
She cares about these dinosaurs very nice, very in the middle,
trying to be a nice sousayra peacemaker everybody when they
are get hot and they just a terrorizer.
Speaker 6: We're right, they don't bring them in like full body
shot till the kids. And I think that's a great
build up for it, because having the kids in that
situation just makes it more terrifying and just the again,
Ellie's like, oh, unless they figure out how to open doors,
and then here it just cuts to the scene of
the fucking door handle opening, which is terrifying, and then
one strolls.
Speaker 4: In perfect perfect that's ridiculous. They just amp it up.
Speaker 6: And they throw a second raptor in there too, which
is even more spookier.
Speaker 4: And that whole scene they're.
Speaker 5: Pack killers, do you know. I mean, I guess we
don't know, no, but raptors. Like when I watch that
scene them, how did they not hear them crawling around
and or smell them or see them or anything.
Speaker 4: They knew that they were.
Speaker 5: It's unrealistic in a sense, right.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm they knew that they were in there. I
think that's the only case I could make. But like
where they were, they were just kind of slowly going
about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I guess you could defer to the excuse like dinosaurs
don't know what they're dealing with because these are human beings,
I guess, and they don't know what this kitchen is
or something like that. It's just a weird kind of
environment and they're seeing reflections on the walls and stuff
like that. So maybe there's that, But like, I don't know,
you do have like merit, you do have merit in
your argument.
Speaker 5: So I was just wondering if you had any type
of explanation for that, like maybe raptors are near sighted
or only far sighted or something like that, or their
noses don't work. I don't know. I just wanted to
ask if there was an explanation.
Speaker 2: I don't have an answer.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows raptors are fucking dumb. It's it's so funny.
Speaker 5: Aren't they supposed to be like the smartest?
Speaker 7: And I feel like I feel like the raptors have
just become like so like so mainstream, maybe a little
too popular for my liking. I feel like maybe there's
some other dinosaurs that take explore.
Speaker 4: Because what's your favorite?
Speaker 1: You know, these raptors are the.
Speaker 3: One with the fucking giant may on his tail.
Speaker 7: Okay, nobody talks about, Oh yeah, he's fucking sneaking through
kitchen like like.
Speaker 3: You have to. He would hear them, you'd hear those kids.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be like sneaking through the kitchen plates
and stuff like that, like he might be here.
Speaker 3: He leaves like a cool guy.
Speaker 7: Uh No, It's just like I'm not going to change
anything for like what the raptors' roles are in these
Drassic Park movies, but like you.
Speaker 1: Fake a different dinosaur in the finale.
Speaker 3: They put so much emphasis.
Speaker 7: And being like, oh, the raptors are the smartest ones
or they're pack pack hunters. And then again when we
get to Jurassic World, it's just like instead of exploring
different different types of species of dinosaurs that could be
intelligent and like really really cool dinosaurs, it's just it
all comes back to the raptors and Jurassic just in general,
Jurassic World, whatever the fuck they do after those Drassic
Planet Jurassic Space something. I feel like they're always gonna
have Raptors as just this, like Golden Child, like Dino
and I just they're overrated.
Speaker 3: Come on, let's throw some mom.
Speaker 4: You blame those movies for that, don't blame this movie
for that. This is the original.
Speaker 3: While I'm watching this, it made me think of it.
Speaker 7: I'm like, raptors are just so mainstream, you know it
is My hipster thought, Well, this is you're a herbivore guy.
Speaker 5: Kind of a tangent, absolutely kind of a tangent. But
on the topic of you know, mainstream diosaurs. Did any
of you guys watch Lamb before Time?
Speaker 3: Was that.
Speaker 1: This peak?
Speaker 2: It's so peak, like Jurassic Jazza peak.
Speaker 4: I'm not it's before time.
Speaker 1: It fucking bubbles the long neck or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Bubbles.
Speaker 1: It's little foot, little boring.
Speaker 4: Docky.
Speaker 2: That is such a sad story.
Speaker 1: I think I've seen them, but yeah, no, I don't
need to read. I don't need to They're not peak
in this household.
Speaker 6: My kids are definitely going to be indoctrinated into the
time before.
Speaker 4: Don't push that on them. Let them choose.
Speaker 3: You know what's so.
Speaker 7: Bad about it, Dylan, You're so against it, like heavy
against it am.
Speaker 3: I seems like.
Speaker 4: You should not force his an interest on his kid.
If this kid doesn't like it, well, if he doesn't
like it, I'm not gonna like force. But like you said,
you're gonna indoctrinate them like well at the beginning stages
for sure.
Speaker 1: That I mean.
Speaker 5: I named my kid after a video game and a
Harry Potter movie, so I can't really talk. I definitely
pushed my likings on kids. So same with Travis. Travis
named his kids after Yeah.
Speaker 4: But if one was like, I don't like this comebook stuff,
I think, you know, Travis would probably lay off. You know,
I want to watch cars, and I think the kid
doesn't like Borderlines. You know, like you're gonna play Borderlines
for eight hours tonight and tomorrow. We're gonna play in
this campaign like.
Speaker 2: Just put band aids on your fingers.
Speaker 5: Keep playing.
Speaker 1: We want to go next for this movie, the Cinematic Adventure,
I'll make it.
Speaker 5: Can I ask you another question, Taylor, So what are
your thoughts on because they used frog DNA to help
build the DNA coding, So how do you think these
the scientists were smart enough to recreate dinosaurs but not
smart enough to know that frog DNA would produce males
or like the ability to to procreate.
Speaker 6: I think it's just a lack there of human Uh,
it's just human best practice again as doctor Grant said,
like some West African frogs could change their sex. But
I guess it was just something that just thought of,
just they didn't indoctrinate. I'm using that word again, that
kind of philosophy to the Jurassic World, where they started
to really focus on the traits of filling in the
genetic code with other animals. They in this concept, it
was just about, Okay, we need to build a dinosaur,
and we're rushing to do it, and we're just gonna
pump it out. So we're just gonna see what we
can source from it, like, oh, we can use amphibian
DNA just to fill in those sequence gaps and boom,
create a dinosaur. So it just goes hand in hand
with Ian Malcolm saying they just were rushing to see
if they could do it before thinking if they should.
Speaker 1: You didn't ask if you should before you saw if
you could or whatever. Right, So yeah, I think it's
one of those things you just hope that it like
that's a life thing. Too, where not every single gene
from everything has taken so you would hope, okay, maybe
just use this part of the DNA, but it's not
gonna use that. And at the end of the day too,
like they say like, oh, we don't we don't plan
them reproducing. But at the same point, like everyone, this
park's fucking shady. I guarantee you if I GUF someone
brought up like, hey, this DNA might be a little iffy,
butther be like yeah, but we gotta create this dinosaur,
and like, yeah, well let's do it. Then, you know,
Like I feel like the people, the scientists there wouldn't
have cared really, They just wanted to do especially him,
and like I feel like he cares eventually. I feel
like it's definitely not that. I feel like he more
cares once his grandchildren ending. It's like man of his
grandchildren weren't there was he ever gonna get it. But
I think they didn't really care at that point. They
just wanted to make it and they just want, Okay,
this is gonna do a dinsauric. Great, we're using this frog.
And I love the video. I love the explainer of
get for the mosquito and everything that's all fun clever stuff.
Speaker 7: So just as you're talking about him in there, I
I love too that. Sorry, when he's just scorfing down
pints of ice cream, you know it's melting, and he's
just kind of opening up to Laura Laura Ellie, I
guess it is.
Speaker 3: Her name is Laura Laura dern yea.
Speaker 7: Of just like his like basically scam like gig that
he had initially about the what was it even it
was like a tick farm or flea farm or flea something,
flea circus, thank you, and how he just he wanted
to create something real. And yeah, like every moment up
until that point he does just seem like a shady
dude that just wants to make money and just like
benefit off of this like amazing spectacle. But I love
those little conversations he hasn't even before that, Like you
definitely see him being kind of distraught about like his
grandkids kind of possibly you know, getting popped off by
some dinos. But like it just kind of humanizes him
with a sense it's like, Okay, this guy's in like
strictly bad character.
Speaker 3: It gives him layers and.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just I really that was a scene that
I feel like, like I mentioned, I've seen this movie
like six months ago, but I didn't really like fully
engage in that scene. I think that I was like,
oh my gosh, this is a totally different side from
the character that I that I just wasn't expecting. So
I love that scene specifically of just him again, like
by the end of the movie, he agrees with Doctor
Grant about wanting to kind of just end this park.
It's not a good idea, but yeah, no, I really
like just the transition that that character goes through in
the movie.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck are the parents that let the kids
go too? You know? Like him obviously he was delusional,
but the parents, it feel like, I'm gonna wait until
the parks up and running, you've had a couple of months,
you know.
Speaker 7: Not just just like just such a first chance to
ditch their kids with with Grandpoppy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even then, like the background we have great
shot right of like that's an iconic thing of like
Jurassic Park logo, the tower of the Gate, Yeah, everything
that's iconic. But I feel like even the high voltage
for the t Rex, yeah, it's gonna shock them. But
I feel like lots of these fences are questionably a
lot lower than I'd want them to be, and like,
obviously that's the whole point in Drastic World, that they
really reinforce it. But even then the park still goes
to shit, right, But I feel like I'd be here,
like there's so much that could go wrong, and obviously
again it did. That's the point in the movie. But
as the parent, I would want to be like, hey,
let's see some photos before I send these kids here
and the Yeah, I feel like we talked about I
feel like since we started the podcast, there's.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I think we lost them.
Speaker 1: I feel like since we started the podcast, we've talked
about the era of the child actor being so good
now between like Logan and Stranger Things and and we're
back then very hit or miss. I feel like both
these kids are really good at their roles and what
they need to do. They don't feel like child actors.
They feel natural in the movie. They don't stand out
in a bad way. So everything's great. Yeah, Kirk and
brought the ham and stuff. I love that moment when
they phone Hammond and they're trying to get from like
room to room and it's sounding like it's okay, and
the phone drops and all him and just hears is
like Allie'd be like shoot them and doctor Grant just
shooting the gun and the kids screaming, and he's like, oh,
like it's like the worst thing you could hear gunshots
dinosaurs and your grandchildren screaming. Yeah, Like it's a Hunters
and it feels like such a tribute to Georgia. Luca
is a new hope when see three peoples doing the
same thing and he thinks that they're dying, but this
time it's much more serious. But I love that and
the finale too. We totally the kitchen, but everything from
like they're going there. I love the idea of they
jump on the bones of the dinosaurs, and the dinosaurs
jump on the bones of the dinosaurs, and the t
rex comes in to make the baby face save and
and just seeing the last shot, like obviously we get
more of the kids and they look and they see
the birds, like all the sense, but just that last
shot of the t rex, the banner falling, That's some
great stuff.
Speaker 7: Right there, that that t rex just literally popping out
of fucking nowhere was the one scene where I'm like,
what the fuck just like did that really just happen?
Speaker 3: Like they did not realize that this t rex turn
off the.
Speaker 7: Walk through the front door, Like he just walks through
the front door, like nobody fucking hears this, this tank
like this statsreck and he's like, doorry, guys, I got this.
I'll take on all the rap That was like one more.
I'm like I feel like I never clued into just
how lucky that was, Like it just didn't make sense,
Like there's not a giant gape in this building. He
just walks in through the front door and he's just there.
Nobody fucking heard him, even though he's just waiting to
snatch up a raptor.
Speaker 3: Oh, I couldn't help a lot, like literally laugh out loud.
Speaker 7: It is just so ridiculous in that moment of just
how do we get our heroes out of this situation.
Let's just have a t Rex literally just fast travel
in this moment, and he just takes up these raptors.
Speaker 3: It was a little bizarre, still absolute lo movie.
Speaker 1: But he's hunting, you know, That's why he's there. He's
whole lifetime some raptors.
Speaker 4: Fair enough one to follow up on which I was
saying with the kid actors, I agree. I mean, I'm
not gonna give them perfect score on the acting, but
I think like they're pretty good. The one that didn't
work for me is the kid in the desert. That
scene was kind of funny, and that that was because
that's like a very early on scene and I was
a little bit worried. I'm like, oh, man, is the
how's the acting going to be in this film? Because
that one's scene, Like I love from Grant's point of view.
I love when he's like or sliced your gut, like
he's really saying some dark ship. Like I don't know
why no one stepped into like say, okay, man, you
gotta step back here, like give this kid a break.
Speaker 1: He'd be canceled today. That yeah, that's why. That's why
in the newest one, he's just gonna have some ship
job because like he keeps scaring kids. Man, you can't
keep doing this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that was funny. But yeah, I think
that the kid actors work. I like that they both
kind of have a job to do in that the
the boy, he just knows a lot about dinosaurs. The
girl it's a little bit forced. I think like that
She's just can She's just a hacker, and she can
break into this system even like all the computer stuff
in general with Dennis's name right as well, like just
the very nineties era hacking with like you know, slamming
that keyboard and like all these things coming up. I
think that that part's age in a way. That's kind
of funny now that I don't know if it was
very serious back then. I can't remember how I felt
about that stuff at well, it was a kid, I
probably thought it was the coolest thing ever. But yeah,
I like that they at least have a job for
each of them to do. And I mean even in
the kitchen scene, like they kind of pop off there
with yeah, locking them up in the freezer and whatnot.
I thought that was like, I don't know, I feel
like the lock mechanism on freezers, on those freezers is
a little unintuitive, right, you like take this pin and
like put it through that thing. She knew exactly what
to do, like she on just in a moment's notice,
took that and locked that freezer without having to think
twice about that.
Speaker 1: The only thing that bothered me in those two things
is and Emily tried to defend it because I was like, okay,
they're they locked the one the raptors in the freezer,
and I was like, how did these kids push that
raptor back? And they adulted and then she but then
she said, if you notice in the freezer there's ice
on the ground, so that she said that the raptor,
he's slipping right. But like the other thing is I
love that when they're trying to and it's Grant and
Ellie and they're like pushing against the door and they're
Ellie's trying her best, like reach for the shotgun. So
you have them go on the door. You have the
girl hacking the boys do it nothing. He's just like
cheering on. It's just like pass her of.
Speaker 8: The fucking gun. Man, like get out of the gun,
let's go, you know. Yeah, but they lock it, and man,
that that just scares me. I just think of any situation.
I'm trying to think there's some horror movie or something
where that happens and someone like locks and they like
lose a finger. Oh it's Rose Red, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: It's a great Stephen King. Uh good, I almost like
great good adaption. But man, your fingers in there something
that locks you're getting injured. Those look like some really
heavy duty locks. When they the electronic ones not messing around,
they held back rappers and everything. But yeah, i'd say
that that's a little force and stuff. But I love
all the moments of them with the long necks and
the trees and stuff like that. And I love all
the moments like kind of before when they're just kind
of they don't look like they don't look like shit kids,
but they definitely don't. They don't look like they have
a complete understanding why what the magnitude of the situation
is right, they just look like they're literally at a
water park or something. And then it's slowly and then
you got that classic shot too, the jello and stuff.
So that's of good use with the kids.
Speaker 4: I gotta say too, Like the suspense of the scene
when they're climbing over the fence is really good, where
it's kind of this countdown of they got to get
off this spence with the volts are gonna come through,
and then the kid just getting launched. I've broken into
laughter seeing that now. I can't remember if that was
a funny thing for me as a kid, but I
just hit. The complete horizontal movement to me just cracked
me up. But he was good, which surprises me a bit.
Speaker 5: But yeah, has it gonna hold that dinosaurs if it
just mildly shocks a.
Speaker 4: Child, well spared no expense, but apparently they did spare
expense when it.
Speaker 6: Didn't dinosaurs, right, Like, dinosaur's not gonna want to like
keep bumping against it, right.
Speaker 1: I take it too. It's like you know when you
have the oven or like the stove on and you
turn it to max, but like those first ten seconds,
it's just like warm, but it's not going to be
like burn you. Yeah that's that. Ye, yeah, that's how
it works Kirkling. So I just feel like that electricity
gate needs some time to warm up, which still.
Speaker 4: Is still the first like yeah, five seconds, that's.
Speaker 1: Pretty good then yeah yeah yeah, and I still again
it's used for memes and the Bunch and everything like that,
but the whole grant like prank of pretending to get
shocked gets me every time. It's so bit And again
it's in a situation where it's there's serious stuff going on,
but he knows like these kids are scared, so he's
trying to have some about them. But again it just
shows like man, yeah he's learning, because like again this
maybe you should be doing around kids and stuff like
that in this moment, but it's been that the kid
gets shocked later on. But again, the the comedy of
this movie is just pitch perfect. There's not a single
joke in me that feels like it's going too much.
And when he needs to get serious, it gets serious.
There's not like kitchen jokes or something like that. Like
when the raptors are here, it's it's game time.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I can't know if anyone else mentioned it, but that again,
that one scene where they're driving away in the jeep
and the t Rex is just objects are closer than
they appear, Like that's just very clever, great goddamn scene,
and Ian im just shifting the stick off and they're
slowing down, and and again the more aligned with that
humor you're saying, Travis his one liner just like think
that on the tour, like just shit, you don't want
to hear after some life and death moments, and then
the rest of the.
Speaker 1: Week he just proceeds to be like injured and in
the back of vehicles Like that's I love it, and
he's just he's just sitting somewhere giving information. He does
nothing else. So because he gets head butted by that dinosaur,
he's lucky he didn't get eaten, but he got a
head butted into the bathroom. And then I always thought
when I watched as a kid, that guy the bathroom
was actually going to the bathroom because his shorts are
so high. They're so high you don't see anything. So
I always said, oh, his pants are down or something.
And that's why I think as a kid, when he
said when you gotta go, you gotta go, I thought
he actually meant it. I think at one point in my.
Speaker 3: Life just really cut of shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, that's all I have to add on
the lawyer.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: One thing I just realized right now as I was
on IMDb for this movie is that doctor uh, doctor
Wu and I don't really connect that he what is
his role in Jurassic World? Is it pretty much the
exact same thing as it is here. I can't exactly
the same. I'd say when he was in the movie,
I was like, he looks familiar. I wonder what it's from.
I didn't picture that it was from dress there's more.
Speaker 6: Of a devious notion. Yeah, but at the beginning, he's
very much the same, I'd say.
Speaker 1: In Jurassic World, though they've turned his character up to
be like evil, mad scientist guy we're here, he is,
like he's a scientist that believes what he's doing. But
in Jurassic World he's always just like, oh no, we
got to steal this, do this, except in the news
movie he's like, I've made a terrible mistake. Finally, sixty
years later he's like, yeah, this is a bad idea.
Speaker 4: So now that the main cast is finally coming back
for dominion, is he the only guy that has then
been in Jurassic World? End Jurassic Park then and like
the original trilogy, like, well, who else has come through Goldblum.
Speaker 1: For five minutes? Like two minutes and the last one
right right press Yeah, but yeah, he was just there.
But in Jurassic World, yeah, he was the only one
to come.
Speaker 3: Back that Mosquito and him and Staff.
Speaker 1: I think they kept it, you know, out of all
all things anything else to show it specifically. I got
a few things, but.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd forget who it was, but quickly mentioned that
scene with the long necks and just like Grant promising
to just stay awake with the kids again, just a
really good bonding moment with the character.
Speaker 3: Who was very against kids.
Speaker 7: And then you just see kind of warm enough to
which again sounds like it kind of gets wreck on.
And the third one, I haven't seen that one along.
Yeah I remember, yeah, I remember bits about it, but
I'm excited to definitely watch that one to talk about.
But yeah, that scene was was really really fun and
I it's with my name when that kid was dropping
those puns, like what do you call a a dinosaur?
Speaker 3: What does he even say to the you know, you
know perfectly, I'm sure, what do you call it?
Speaker 2: Blind dinosaur? What do you call it? Blind dinosaur's dog?
Do you think he saw us?
Speaker 1: Rex?
Speaker 3: And comedy? Great comedy, right, Travis? He said the comedy hits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that one's so bad. It's so good.
I guess I'll give him that one.
Speaker 7: And then the scene which is like right after the
t Rex moment when the jeep goes flying off and
into the tree and then Grant climbs up the tree to.
Speaker 3: Go save the kid.
Speaker 7: There, I like how Grant has this like again just
like a phobia of heights, and then he's just kind
of like forced to like like faces fear to go
save this kid, and the kid is like a very
similar fear, and they're both just kind of in this predicament,
but he has to just be like the adult in
the situation, just a really good moment and when the
kid is just like really embarrassed that he threw up,
and it's just like this really quick little line of
like it's so not important to the situation what's going on,
but like as a kid, it's like, don't tell anyone
through it, Like it's just one of those things. And
I just like that scene, like it wasn't necessary, but
like it didn't have to be in there, but to me,
it lifted those just so scary. It just made them
feel more real as like a real kid as opposed
to someone that's just fitting that spot of kid in
Jurassic Park.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I don't know if we're doing trivia,
and I don't want to ruin a thing, But Taylor,
did you know that the kid in the desert scene
that goofy kid as a is a voice actor in
Star Wars the Clone Wars. I didn't know that it's
kind of character and let's see, he playsky Corky cry
do you know who that commando was?
Speaker 1: Annoying pig aliens.
Speaker 4: Corky quz k r y z.
Speaker 3: Do you know, Jessica.
Speaker 2: Interesting?
Speaker 1: He also was a nightmare on Elm Street five. He
was the baby that Freddy Couger tries to possess.
Speaker 4: Also, he does a voice in Diablo three. Jessica, I
know you're a fan of that one. So this guy's
got quite the career.
Speaker 6: Travis, you'll know who was show do a show share
monster voice effects.
Speaker 1: He's just in some room somewhere.
Speaker 5: Like that.
Speaker 2: He was the nephew of the Duchess of Mandalor Oh
of course, yeah, definitely character Corky Criz.
Speaker 1: I actually do remember him, Taylor, I'm just meming, but
I do remember the Duchess's nephew there. So yeah, the
only two things I got left to shout out were
I really love the beginning of the the plane they're
in starting a bus and they're all putting on their
seat belts and all goals to put his on him.
There he has two both female ends, and he just
can't do anything.
Speaker 6: That's one of the biggest foreshadows to what two females
there you.
Speaker 1: Go, yeah, good, good catch the Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then just Ian is just kind of like laughing
at him the whole time. So that's some good shit.
And then yeah, we already talked about but the scene
when they first see the dinosaurs. They've tell the score
and everything, but I just I think each actor plays
it right there, each giving the same emotion but different.
Even again, this movie's used for gifts and stuff, but
Alan taking off his glasses and stuff. It feels believable
in that moment, especially for what they do, and I
love that they're in like the utter shock. You have
the lawyer who literally the first thing is like, we're
gonna make so much money. And then you have Ian
Malcolm who's like impressed, but he's very tepid about the
whole thing because he's just like you they like actually
didn't drop a fuck bomb, but he's like, oh, you
actually did it. They did it, like you know, like
he's more just shocked. So I love the way they
all play it. It could again come off like very cheesy,
but I think they do a good job. Like he's
like literally falling to his knees and they're just like
having this outer body experience. So just a great scene
to set you out for what's to come.
Speaker 2: That scene I love watching.
Speaker 6: I think the Graham Norton Show or Sam Neil talks
about what that scene was and when they had to
look at the Bracy Saurus, it was Steven Spielberg with
a stick with a tennis.
Speaker 2: Ball at the end.
Speaker 6: Just really funny how they were able to kind of
sell that emotion looking at such a humorous thing.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's the only like the wide
shots are good, that close up shot of it, that's
the only time I think the SEG's like a little
like man in it. Just when they're a little close
to It's like all this stands up within the rest
of the movie is pretty flawless.
Speaker 3: So for a ninety three movie or whatever.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna make a couple of comparisons here, like
to the book, just because I just think it's interesting
and for your guys inside too. So a lot of
the character dynamics are completely flipped around in the book.
Hammond is not like a down to earth kind of
like come around guy at all. He's such an hill
asshole and so every kind of mistake that happens, he's
always blaming other people. It's absolutely ruthless. And he dies
in the book again spoiler, but he after they get
the power back on and most of the dinosaurs are contained,
he tells himself he's going to continue with opening the park,
and he goes for a walk and he trips down
a hill and he gets eaten by a bunch of dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: So the fitting in for that that version of the character,
if he wants to keep the park open and dies
that way.
Speaker 6: It is it definitely is uh, Doctor Wu he dies
as well by veloss of raptors in the book of
Jurassic World.
Speaker 1: If he dies in this movie.
Speaker 6: You know again that's that's you can see the flaw
in this because again Michael Crichton is a fantastic author
and both the drastic part books that he's written are
literally fantastic, And you can see so much A Fallen
Kingdom has a lot of reference source material to the
second book, but certain characters where they don't have much
they can continue off of.
Speaker 2: And go off of.
Speaker 6: That's where you can kind of see them running into
kerfuffles with like Doctor Roof for example, in the Jurassic
World franchise.
Speaker 2: Now, Doctor Malcolm. They killed him off from the first book,
but then they brought him back in the second one,
which is good.
Speaker 1: What do you mean the second movie and the first.
Speaker 6: In the first book, they actually kill him off. And
I didn't think he was gonna come back at all.
I thought they actual killed him up. And I read
a second book, I'm like, oh, they actually, okay, shoehorn
him back in that he's become his injuries. They just surviving.
Speaker 1: He's half dinosaur, half man. Yeah, you're talking about my career.
I having my trivia here. Do you know how much
you put in? Nobody know how much Universe will pay
for the rights of the book. I don't wop two
million dollars so you think multi billion dollar franchise. But
then later on he did get a substantial percentage of
the gross and a one point five non a coachable fee,
so he did get more later on, but they did
only buy it for two million, which again just even
Jurassic World in itself is a billion dollar movie, so
right there, pretty good deal for Universe. So oh yeah,
give you some two million for this book. And they
they paid for the book even before it was published too,
so it was and it went to a lot of places.
It went to Warner Brothers. At one point Tim Burton
was going to maybe directed, which thank god that didn't
happen in there. Oh yeah, Michael Keaton would have been, oh,
we got to do that, and he would have been
fucking hamm oh, yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah, so yeah,
he was in that.
Speaker 6: He's the new blower got destroyed in the book. They
actually the Coastakan government bombed the ship out of it
after everyone managed to escape.
Speaker 1: He really didn't want sequels. He killed him and he killed,
he killed, and he killed the island.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was killed the island.
Speaker 4: But again got ba the island, like what is that
that was there? That was one of their.
Speaker 2: Contingency plans the dinosaurs. They had the lising.
Speaker 4: What do they think is going to happen? The dinosaurs
are going to travel across the world.
Speaker 6: Their main concern was the dinosaurs getting off the island,
and that.
Speaker 1: Was about the pterodactyl's still in right.
Speaker 4: Was there? There's no terodactyls in this movie.
Speaker 1: No, but they're kind on this one.
Speaker 2: In the book.
Speaker 6: That was something that was highlighted was dinosaurs kept consistently
getting to the mainland, and certain people were looking at
how this was happening, and it.
Speaker 1: Was just like t rex swim there.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't the t rex.
Speaker 6: It was like the little It was the green compies
for the most part, that were just coming across and
they were coming on the little green compsagni.
Speaker 1: The ones that kill a girl in the next movie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so they're little ones. They kept just getting onto, uh,
like stock ships and resupply ships that were just kind
of sneaking over like rats exactly. So they were popping
up in Costa Rica, and then every so often they
would find a larger dinosaur body washed up on the beach,
and then they would go to try and inspect it.
But then the agency would come in and gin would
come in, clean the area, quarantine the body, and then
they would literally they would hide it.
Speaker 2: And keep its secret. Because there was so much involved
with this.
Speaker 4: So what was the what was the narrative of why
they bombed it? Like the narrative the general public doesn't
know that it's a dinosaur island, right, they don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so as far as anyone knows, like I can't
remember what they would have told people if they didn't
even mention act.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh, I don't remember if they told the
public really what it was. Just Yeah, they would have
bombed bombed the island and then killed the dinosaurs. So
that was their main fear of them getting off the island.
Speaker 1: They said, dinosaurs and no them believing like they're hiding
something worse out there. It's not fucking dinosaurs, it's something
much bigger.
Speaker 6: One of my favorite things about the book was that
there was a second t rex. There was a juvenile one,
and the two kind of like kept their distance from
each other. But there was another sequence and reading it
was so cool. Was Alan was separated with the kids
and they were going on a raft of some kind
down the river and the t rex actually is swimming
after them in the river and coming at them, and
they actually, I can't remember how they managed to like
manage to put more of a distance between them and
the t rex, but it was super curee like.
Speaker 1: You couldn't swim, that's what happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds like it would be very hard to show,
so I can maybe underst that's why they didn't do it.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna put this animatronic in this water, it
has to be moving.
Speaker 6: That kind of source material again is referenced in We'll
get to it Dassic Park three in a different contexts.
Speaker 1: So yeah, any final things thoughts to shut out before
a rating for the pill d you and drop them.
Speaker 5: I want to shout out that I like the kind
of the background architecture and things like that in the park,
you know, like looking like there's fossils in the columns,
and all the chairs look like they're you know, made
of wood if they're from prehistoric era. Things like that.
It's a lot of kind of fine details in the
movie that are really fun to look at. And as well,
although the CGI you know, questionable when you're zoomed in
on the long neck in the very beginning, you know,
I do like that they put in the time to
kind of add wrinkles and things and try and make
it look you know, textured, I guess would be the
right word. So, although it does come off a little
dated in that one scene, I do think it is,
you know, for the time. I think it was a
bit of ahead of its time.
Speaker 1: M I agree.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Did anyone mention the cow the cow scene where they
cow in the cage. That's always just been so brutal.
That's another one of those scenes that's really stuck with me.
And seeing it again, oh god, it's it's great once again.
It's kind of like setting up the Raptors for the
future in a very terrifying way.
Speaker 1: So I had to make sure the kids eyes were
off of that scene because they still don't exactly even
understand that concept of chicken and burgers and where they
come from, right where they killed the fucking animals. Just
show them a scene from it. But yeah, yeah, it's
a good it's it's it's a great scene again, just
more build up and just the just the sound and
so here's they're just like like rushing through. It's like, oh,
w be that.
Speaker 6: You know, they make that like really like like as
if your stomach is really hungry, and it's just making
that gurgly sound, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1: I know what you mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know I've been there, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, many times. Yeah, okay, And for that's all it.
I don't have much more say. I said everything in
my opening here. I would just be repeating myself about
how great this is, this is an easy ten out
of ten s tier type of movie. Kirkland, you go.
Speaker 3: Next ten ten movie? It's perfect.
Speaker 7: It's again, It's just one of those nostalgia movies that
I feel like I'll never really be done with it.
And it's a special one.
Speaker 1: Taylor Field.
Speaker 6: I think I know this one is easily easily easily
a ten out of ten. It will never ever drop
from being that. For me, this is always cemented in stone.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: It's just absolutely fantastic and will always be a part
of me for eons to come. My soul will transcend
beyond this plane of existence.
Speaker 2: It is always be drafted the movie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll go right to that scene where the t
Rex is breaking out in the bathroom and stuff.
Speaker 3: Can be training your own race, Jessica.
Speaker 1: Any foul thoughts?
Speaker 5: Can I throw out a couple of Easter eggs?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Please preferably so, Nedri.
Speaker 5: There's multiple outfits that he's dressed exactly like characters from
the Goonies.
Speaker 3: Who's uh uh?
Speaker 4: I feel like we said like seven different names for
this character in this in this right confused?
Speaker 2: The guy you like stealing the embryos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought his name was Dennis, But that's always whatever.
Speaker 2: You just said his first name, Dennis, last name Injurie.
Speaker 3: You guys said something else too, Newman, Yeah, his name
from Scienfield.
Speaker 1: It's just that's the only other role he's known from,
or al from Alice toy Barney.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that guy. That guy. When they are in
the helicopter with the seat belts that won't click, they're
both female seatbelt heads, supposed to be portraying that all.
Speaker 1: Where were you half an hour ago and talked about this?
Speaker 5: Probably zoned out it happens. I'm sorry. There is a
there's a scene from Jaws on Nedri's computer in the background,
he's watching one of Sielberg's other movies. The t Rex
actually has a missing tooth. The animatronic broke in one
of the shots and they just left it so when
she's actually biting down you can see she's missing one.
There is shining references with the raptors. I'm sure Travis
would know them better than me. But apparently the hiding
in the kitchen cabinet supposed to be like hiding in
the cupboard and locking up in the freezer, same as
locking up track mm hmm.
Speaker 1: The projector just happenstances to be on. It's like, I
don't know if Spielber's like, we're getting lock this raptor an, Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's ghosts.
Speaker 4: Kitchens only have so many things. You can lock people
in the last.
Speaker 5: One if you didn't know, when the DNA projector hits
the raptor, the letters that are on it are codes
for actual DNA, So it's projecting DNA code onto the
raptor that was created using DNA. I don't give this
movie a perfect score. I don't think it's a perfect movie.
I think it's really good. But I'll end on that
controversial topic.
Speaker 2: You're gonna drop your score? Are you gonna hide?
Speaker 5: I don't. Usually I don't really give scores anymore. I
followed in Dylan's suit because you can't score every movie
the same, and it's just, you know, it gets complicated.
You can't get Suicide Squad like a ten out of
ten and then come and give this a ten out
of ten too.
Speaker 2: Right, different contexts, different context.
Speaker 5: See exactly exactly. That's why the rating system is flawed.
I don't think it's a ten out of ten movie.
Speaker 1: You know Taylor's rating system is flawed. I don't think
anybody else's rating systems I've heard as flawed.
Speaker 6: Would you rate this movie a t rex or a
velociraptor or a floposaurus floposaurus?
Speaker 5: What's better a t rex or a velociraptor?
Speaker 1: Context?
Speaker 3: Context?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all context. You know. I'll give this two
velociraptors out of two.
Speaker 4: Fuck, it's a perfect movie.
Speaker 5: Well maybe it was supposed to be two velocirappers and
one t rex, so it only got two velociraptors.
Speaker 4: Your t rexes, Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 7: Yeah, something I completely forgot about. I didn't realize doctor
Grant just throws away his raptor claw, Like, what was
the point of that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like, yeah, he's a bunch of anymore.
Speaker 1: Draftsberg three, He's still just doing the same thing, right,
He's blowing into ship.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: I just always thought that was like his that was
his heirloom. He's gonna pass down, and then he just
fucking tosses it.
Speaker 3: He's like you, I.
Speaker 1: Think it's like you remember, do you remember the Great
ending a Turboman Kirkland, when the whole movie Arnold Schwartz
Snegger's after the doll and he finally gives his doll
to his son, and his son's like, why do I
need the doll when I got the real thing at home?
Because Arnold dresses turrible man? And then they list up
Armold and he's like, that's my dad. That's what this
was happening with the claws. He's seen the real raptor.
He don't need this fucking my dad. That's my raptor.
Speaker 3: Fair enough?
Speaker 2: How about this is an answer? It's all symbolic.
Speaker 6: He uses the raptor clock to scare kids away because
he hates kids. But once he evolves, sitting in the tree,
he throws it away.
Speaker 1: About three because we gotta we gotta dive into this
because like, he doesn't evolve. Got they broke up, she.
Speaker 4: Get events of this traumatic experience. You know, I don't
blame them, really, I feel like this.
Speaker 1: Would have brought them closer together.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Ellie was one. I remember Ali's like, let's have some kids,
and Sam was like, come on, was it around his head?
Speaker 3: Ellie?
Speaker 1: That's the four that's for Jurassic World Dominion. We'll find
out deal and final thoughts, Oh, this is how many
female seat belts did you give?
Speaker 5: This?
Speaker 4: One hundred?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: This is Uh it's a great movie. They spared no
expense in making an all time classic. Uh yeah, it's
it's one of the best. It's one of the best.
Love it and it was a lot of fun to
watch this one after a long time. And uh yeah,
I'm like kind of hype to get into number two
and pension number three as well, so do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gentlemen. Well, thank you very much for tuning in.
Like Dan just alluded, we'll be back next week number two,
or if you're on Patreon, because next week I think
we'll be recording them back to back. You begin two
and three at the same time, so you want to
be doing that, So uh yeah, ladies and chill. We
hope you enjoyed this Jurassic Part retrospective and I prossly
hear of his next I'll be boring.