Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to rose Pricks. It's a beautiful, beautiful
Speaker 1: Friday morning. I'm here. It's me Stephanie Wilder Taylor. I'm
Speaker 1: here with Cecily Nobler and you know, it's a day,
Speaker 1: it's the day to do real housewives. Are you guys watching?
Speaker 1: Is anybody watching? Are you guys still watching?
Speaker 2: Because we're sort of barely watching. If we're honest, we're watching,
Speaker 2: We're watching. I mean, we're here, we're doing it. But like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel feeling like I could be
Speaker 2: wrong about this, but maybe our housewives days are kind
Speaker 2: of membered. I mean, all I really want to talk
Speaker 2: about is Lisa Renna getting roofed at the abbey. That's
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Speaker 1: I did realize that on our last one that's not
Speaker 1: out yet, so you guys don't have to yell at
Speaker 1: me yet. But I completely called Davante who's Devo. I
Speaker 1: was calling him Javante the whole time we were talking
Speaker 1: about him.
Speaker 2: I think I didn't wire it. I think I was
Speaker 2: hearing Davante because I was just thinking Devo.
Speaker 1: I was calling him Javante. And I'm going to say
Speaker 1: in my defense that I'm like an old lady. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm like your your old aunt who just says things
Speaker 1: wrong and just doesn't even notice. And I mean, it's happened.
Speaker 1: You know. My dad used to add s's to things
Speaker 1: like Michael J.
Speaker 3: Fox would Michael J. Fox's, but not as a joke.
Speaker 3: And he and he was insists. He loved to talk.
Speaker 2: About like pop culture, so he would talk about Beyonce.
Speaker 2: It was very interested Beyonce. But he would be like, what,
Speaker 2: I'll listen to a little bit of that Beyonce beyond.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's Beyonce. He's like Beyonce. But he was
Speaker 2: not kidding.
Speaker 1: Okay. My stepfather, my stepfather, same thing. My stepfather used
Speaker 1: to pronounce heinegen beer like heinegans. So my brother and
Speaker 1: I have never stopped making fun of that, like.
Speaker 3: Oh, do you get me.
Speaker 1: Saying it? I could see that a little bit. I
Speaker 1: don't know that one's like like a Heinigans and I
Speaker 1: want it with kind.
Speaker 2: Of makes sense. Give me a Honigan, Give me a Honigans.
Speaker 2: That makes more sense than Beyonce.
Speaker 3: I mean, not Beyonce. That's not really my type of music.
Speaker 3: But I'll listen to it, but I'll hear it.
Speaker 1: I told you about the one that my stepfather would
Speaker 1: do where he called Ronald Reagan Reagan and I knew
Speaker 1: that there was a press secretary named Don Reagan, but
Speaker 1: I was like, but Ronald Reagan's name is, It's Reagan.
Speaker 1: And he was like, you could pronounce it either way,
Speaker 1: because he was very how is that a thing? You
Speaker 1: could pronounce it either way? That's like never a thing
Speaker 1: you cannot pronounce it. And then if you tried to say,
Speaker 1: but he was a guest lad, so if you tried
Speaker 1: to say, but nobody has ever pronounced it Ronald Reagan,
Speaker 1: he'd say, yes, yes they have.
Speaker 2: But if he's like, uh, trumpeles and you're like, it's
Speaker 2: just Trump, it's not trumpels, He's like, you could say
Speaker 2: it either way. It's German trumpeles like that. It's a name,
Speaker 2: so that's not something you can It's not like any
Speaker 2: word like often or often depending on like where you live.
Speaker 3: It's a name. It has to be the way the
Speaker 3: name is.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the the try telling tried telling my stepfather
Speaker 1: that back in the day, and try being in high
Speaker 1: school and trying not to have huge fights because you
Speaker 1: have a stepfather that's just like this, I say it,
Speaker 1: so it is, I'm in charge, and then you have
Speaker 1: to be like, I mean, okay, oh, anyway.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. So are we gonna it's all crazy? So Rena,
Speaker 2: where do we put the because that feels like it
Speaker 2: goes here? But maybe we save it for ureat.
Speaker 3: We could talk.
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Speaker 1: about the RuSHA Brina thing. Let's okay, yeah, real quick,
Speaker 1: real quick. Now, I want to say this really quick.
Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, she's been very vocal,
Speaker 1: even on Chechnay, Andy Cohen and everything. She's making the
Speaker 1: rounds because she does have a book coming out. But
Speaker 1: she was talking about at the Trader's premiere party which
Speaker 1: they had at the Abbey, that she got roofeed and
Speaker 1: she went and got tested at the hospital and they
Speaker 1: found like fentanyl and major like amphetamines and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like math or something in her.
Speaker 2: Drink in her system after she drank. And I believe
Speaker 2: for one hundred percent. And I hate when I read
Speaker 2: the Oh she's talking to a book, she's lying, It's like,
Speaker 2: fuck off all those people. I think that that's terrible.
Speaker 2: And that's all I have to say about that. What
Speaker 2: do you think?
Speaker 1: I mean, I completely agree, And I got to say.
Speaker 1: We did some Patreon episodes about What's not the Abbey,
Speaker 1: No about Tara Reid who did not.
Speaker 3: What well.
Speaker 2: We talked about the Abby though it's notorious. I don't
Speaker 2: understand what's going on over there, but they are. This
Speaker 2: is not the first time someone's accused being there and
Speaker 2: having this happen, like it happens a lot.
Speaker 3: You should look up their lawsuits and all this.
Speaker 1: No, I was what I was going to say, is
Speaker 1: I totally believe it because unlike the Tara Reid thing,
Speaker 1: like she's actually went to the hospital and got tested
Speaker 1: as opposed to remember when Tara Reid was like yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just think so, but I don't know
Speaker 1: they tested me for something, but like I don't really know.
Speaker 3: I'm not I don't you know, I don't know, so
Speaker 3: that's yeah, I don't know. Yeah, Lisa, that that does suck.
Speaker 2: And I don't know why the abbey doesn't close down
Speaker 2: at this point, Like I can't believe that place is
Speaker 2: still open. There's something something very wrong with that place.
Speaker 2: And it's just I've heard for years. Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think that is? Why would
Speaker 2: somebody do that to her?
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I got roofed once, although I didn't go to the
Speaker 2: hospital and get tested, but I'm pretty sure I was rootfeed.
Speaker 2: Also in West Hollywood at I'll just say it. We
Speaker 2: talked about this on a show on The Red. It
Speaker 2: was called Red.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: I think it's a Mexican place, Mexican restaurant.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it.
Speaker 2: And I had gone to the bar and I can
Speaker 2: drink a drink and I don't get wasted, you know,
Speaker 2: I like, I know my limits, I know whatever.
Speaker 3: So I had a rum drink.
Speaker 1: It's like a.
Speaker 2: Delicious, like rum frozen rum thing. I sit down and
Speaker 2: I'm like, even Mike said he'd never seen me like.
Speaker 2: I was unable to move, Like I was in a
Speaker 2: k hole. I couldn't move. I couldn't talk you into
Speaker 2: carrying me to the car. I just don't understand.
Speaker 1: Can you do that when you're with somebody else, Like,
Speaker 1: who's what is the goal? Why would you waste a
Speaker 1: drug on somebody who's not like by themselves, who's not
Speaker 1: a good mark? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I have no I mean Lisa Renna. Maybe they were
Speaker 3: just going after her. Maybe me. It was the wrong
Speaker 3: drink that was served.
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody put it in the wrong I went to
Speaker 2: the bathroom at one point and Mike was just he
Speaker 2: was sitting there but probably not paying attention. I don't
Speaker 2: think anybody would come by and do it then, But
Speaker 2: and I know it wasn't him, so you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know, but it was. It wasn't
Speaker 2: just like, oh, I'm really drunk. It was like I
Speaker 2: can't walk right after half a drink like it.
Speaker 3: It was weird.
Speaker 2: It happens, and it both times in West Tillywood, So
Speaker 2: not thrilling.
Speaker 1: Lisa Renna's been talking a lot, like, saying a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff, and I'm finding myself even though we forget
Speaker 1: how kind of awful she was towards the end when
Speaker 1: she got fired. Yeah, it's hard to get get a
Speaker 1: housewife fired that the fans have to really hate you,
Speaker 1: because I mean normally fans even if you're getting some
Speaker 1: hate still, they'll still be a lot that love you.
Speaker 1: And she does not. She's not sorry put it that way.
Speaker 1: She's like, you know what, I did a job and
Speaker 1: that's what I was there to do, and I don't
Speaker 1: feel bad about a lot. Like the only thing she
Speaker 1: says she feels bad about. I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: been keeping up on what she's saying. The only thing
Speaker 1: she feels bad about is the Yolanda stuff about feeling
Speaker 1: Yolanda of having Munchausen's because I think she feels like
Speaker 1: she was kind of put up to that and she
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done it and it was, you know, wrong.
Speaker 1: But in general, she does not feel bad about how
Speaker 1: she was to Kim. She doesn't feel bad about like
Speaker 1: the stuff she said, the fight she had with people.
Speaker 1: She feels like she was just picking up for herself
Speaker 1: and doing a job, which I kind.
Speaker 3: Of agree with her if I'm honest.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Munchausen thing was crazy, but Lisa had
Speaker 2: a lot to do with that too, vander Pump, but
Speaker 2: I actually they're all looking it up and stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's just like that's just good gossip at that point,
Speaker 2: Like that's just crazy shit. But Yolanda was also a
Speaker 2: piece of fucking work, you know, I don't know, I guess,
Speaker 2: but you don't. You don't go after the kit. You
Speaker 2: don't really go after someone's like illness. I don't like that.
Speaker 3: But she's you know, Lisa Rena is gonna Lisa Rinna.
Speaker 3: She she had to go.
Speaker 2: But then she was perfect for traders for what you know,
Speaker 2: like she's she's just doing her job. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: think Andy's scared of her because there's some tea that's
Speaker 2: going to be spilled, and he's been kind of pumping
Speaker 2: her up a little bit, which is funny because he's like.
Speaker 3: Oh, now you love her, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Okay, but she's I'm gonna I'll read her book, that's
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? We should? We should have like a
Speaker 1: Rose Pricks book club book club should and read that
Speaker 1: book next.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I.
Speaker 1: Love Okay, we came upon Oh you guys, thanks for
Speaker 1: that's it. All right, let's let's you have some macros
Speaker 1: about this episode, though, right, I do have one Big
Speaker 1: macro okay, And I noticed it twice because I started it.
Speaker 3: Last night and I was very tired.
Speaker 1: So sometimes when I watch things at night, it feels
Speaker 1: it HICs differently.
Speaker 2: Than it does if I watch it in the morning.
Speaker 2: But I watched half of it last night and half
Speaker 2: of it this morning. And so I say that because
Speaker 2: it had such an intensity this show. The way that
Speaker 2: they the music or whatever they were doing this episode
Speaker 2: was so intense.
Speaker 3: That it was really bothering me for no reason.
Speaker 2: You're just talking about Roger, You're just like, you know,
Speaker 2: Keeley is, you know, having dinner and saying like saying
Speaker 2: whatever he's saying. Everything was underscored by this intense like
Speaker 2: scary music, movie music. Did you notice that it was
Speaker 2: one hundred percent agree? And oh my god, my god,
Speaker 2: I was like, am I going crazy?
Speaker 1: No, they started it from the very beginning. Not only
Speaker 1: do I agree, but like I was like, wait, why
Speaker 1: is just the opening sequence with this like no, no,
Speaker 1: no music. I'm like, what do you?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? That fed up? Do they just get
Speaker 3: a different music producer or something?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I completely agree, And I was like,
Speaker 1: they're trying to make something feel more dramatic. That's just
Speaker 1: not that dramatic.
Speaker 2: Well, they really took me out of every so I
Speaker 2: was having a hard time, especially last night. I'm like,
Speaker 2: whoa god, what I was like feeling unsettled. It was
Speaker 2: just unsettling the whole time. So we get into the
Speaker 2: thing they're doing, all their their getting. You know, you
Speaker 2: have Amanda, her kids are very cute. I will give
Speaker 2: her that. She's very cute kids. She's playing with her kids.
Speaker 2: That's one of the things that we see somebody was doing.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I never I always check out at the intros. Let's
Speaker 2: check in with the ladies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I have a couple of macro notes, though.
Speaker 1: My macro notes are just that I I think this
Speaker 1: show is really reaching. I don't think anybody really has
Speaker 1: a storyline, really, anybody I got exactly. I think we're
Speaker 1: trying to make us care about nothing. Nobody likes Amanda,
Speaker 1: so you know, she wasn't in this episode really, which
Speaker 1: is which is good. But without her in the episode,
Speaker 1: this is one of those things I felt like we
Speaker 1: kind of need her on this wall because I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: nothing happened, We're just we were rehashing. So hard people's
Speaker 1: storylines like this is my macro note, I can't. I
Speaker 1: don't care about Sutton. I don't care about her fucking
Speaker 1: name change. I mean, stop trying to make that a thing.
Speaker 1: Does anybody care.
Speaker 3: About it anyway?
Speaker 2: Okay, No, nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody cared about any
Speaker 2: of us. Really, I don't care about like Rachel Zoe's
Speaker 2: stupid dif from a year ago either and making it
Speaker 2: the most intense thing that's ever happened.
Speaker 3: Calm down when she will tell you.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, she's kind of becoming like the
Speaker 1: star of the show, but she herself keeps going like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't really care. I don't really care, like I've
Speaker 1: been over it for a long time. But also it
Speaker 1: was like this was the worst moment in my entire life.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, which is it anyway?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so they go in and they have
Speaker 2: all their little intros mm hmm, right, and then what's
Speaker 2: the first thing forget was it?
Speaker 1: We start? Oh? Well, I mean I guess this is
Speaker 1: part of the intro. Bose is driving with Leel, which
Speaker 1: I do find relatable because driving with your teenager who's
Speaker 1: just gotten their license there's nothing more anxiety provoking about it.
Speaker 1: I would say it's probably right up there with trying
Speaker 1: to see if the embryos took. Sitting in a car
Speaker 1: next to your teenager who's going to drive to San Diego.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, bos, this is now here's
Speaker 1: where the scary music should be playing. Okay, so back
Speaker 1: in the Hamptons, this is where we start. Rachel's friend,
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's it's a Dereite is asking is talking
Speaker 1: to Phoenix and her daughter is asking if she flew
Speaker 1: commercial to get to the Hamptons. What show is this?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: Now I know why, darit? Why would your daughter be
Speaker 1: asking you, mommy, did you have to fight commercial? What
Speaker 1: the what?
Speaker 3: The actual fuck? It's gross, so love it.
Speaker 1: So the whole thing about this scene is that she's
Speaker 1: facetiming because PK is watching the children, and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be like this is where we're also supposed to
Speaker 1: get like scary music, like as if PK can't handle
Speaker 1: like watching his kids. And I'm I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 1: I wasn't really on Durite's side on this. I'm not
Speaker 1: seeing the horror show that is like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: PK wants to take your kids to camp late because
Speaker 1: he's hanging out like, I don't know. I thought it
Speaker 1: was weird. I thought it was weird that her daughter
Speaker 1: feels like she has to ask special permission. Oh my god, mom,
Speaker 1: is it okay if dad takes us to camp late?
Speaker 1: And I thought durit was over compensating with the darling,
Speaker 1: of course it's fine. Well, why would your daughter be
Speaker 1: so scared to tell you that unless she was worried
Speaker 1: you were going to freak the fuck out and be like, no,
Speaker 1: he K can't bring you late to camp. I mean
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, they're so stupid and boring, like it's so
Speaker 2: stupid a face time. Now we're watching now, I always
Speaker 2: think of that Jewel song people living their lives for
Speaker 2: you on TV.
Speaker 3: So here we are, we're doing this show.
Speaker 2: We're doing a pot you're listening to this of us
Speaker 2: doing a thing where we're watching people now on FaceTime.
Speaker 3: It's not even doing anything. There's no interesting.
Speaker 2: It's not like scripts where they're talking and it's like
Speaker 2: a play and it's beautiful and there's meaning. No, it's
Speaker 2: just like dumb pique and to read face timing, but
Speaker 2: I just felt.
Speaker 1: Like, are you trying to give us? Is this supposed
Speaker 1: to be ammunition to like hy pk is just like
Speaker 1: the worst guy ever and doesn't care about your kids.
Speaker 1: It's like he's that's some total normal dad shit. So
Speaker 1: you're not proving anything. But okay, well she just can't
Speaker 1: control it. So okay that all happens. They and everybody
Speaker 1: comes downstairs and they're all hungover, which is supposed to
Speaker 1: somehow be adorable that like women in their fifties are
Speaker 1: Kyle except Kyle, but then they almost like make fun of.
Speaker 3: Her in a way.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you're not You're not hungover because you
Speaker 1: don't drink everything. It's so they're still so focused on
Speaker 1: the fact that Kyle doesn't drink. It came up so
Speaker 1: many times in this episode. I know, like she's not
Speaker 1: fun whatever, but who cares. So she's they're all sitting Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is weird.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh god, everybody's so like skinny and holding
Speaker 2: their heads.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just what is this?
Speaker 1: Are the dogs? I mean they're all like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I've got a dreas. I've got to you more alcohol
Speaker 1: drinking because I'm just so sick from alcohol. It's like,
Speaker 1: how old are you guys?
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think I'm going to say I'm
Speaker 2: going to throw in a little insight here from my
Speaker 2: experience not doing that, but like being around I have
Speaker 2: I have some wealthy friends who like to have a
Speaker 2: cocktail and then they like to have a bloody Mary
Speaker 2: the next morning, and I think it's more of like
Speaker 2: a oh, we're so fabulous, do you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like it's it's weird because I mean, it doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense that like bloody Mary is going to fix
Speaker 2: the r I guess it does because people do it.
Speaker 2: I never was able to do that, but to me, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a rich person thing, so I see it. I'm
Speaker 2: always like, oh, that's so specific you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why. Maybe not. I'm sure
Speaker 3: it's you know, everybody. But yeah.
Speaker 1: There are also a lot of designer talk in this
Speaker 1: episode too, because Rachel is like, so Kyle comes in
Speaker 1: and Rachel goes, oh my god, you look so cute.
Speaker 1: It looks so kide, I like die, I die of
Speaker 1: your outfit. And then Kyle says, which was probably way
Speaker 1: more relatable to us than apparently to Rachel. Kyle's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I got this at Zara and then Rachel
Speaker 1: Zoe's face was just like oh oh yeah. And then
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, you get some like really cute stuff there,
Speaker 1: and then Rachel goes, yeah, I die like Zara's got
Speaker 1: the cutest stuff. And then the producer asks her if
Speaker 1: she has anything. She's like, well, my earrings are ar
Speaker 1: Chanel and the producer goes, do you have anything that's
Speaker 1: not designer? And she's like, I mean yeah, like I do, well,
Speaker 1: like no, I guess I don't.
Speaker 3: All right, well, okay that all'll have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of designer chuck, but that's
Speaker 2: to be expected because.
Speaker 3: We have Rachel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but is that supposed to be aspirational? That like,
Speaker 1: oh we all what it is? This is Rachel Burke.
Speaker 1: I mean this is all she's ever been.
Speaker 2: There's never been a moment, but this isn't her Like
Speaker 2: even Okay, even though we don't dislike her as much
Speaker 2: as we did, but even Erica has had somewhat of.
Speaker 3: An arc evolution. Like you sometimes see her without makeup.
Speaker 1: Sometimes she's Oklahoma, a little bit right, a little bit
Speaker 1: just tiny bit.
Speaker 2: We're not going to get that with Rachel. There's not
Speaker 2: she's this person. She's oh my.
Speaker 3: God, I die, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: But we have to do we have to show the
Speaker 1: Burken bags and the price tag every time every eight
Speaker 1: twenty eight thousand dollars burkin. Okay, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you they have they have a deal with them.
Speaker 2: They're getting paid. Yes, I promise you got their influencers.
Speaker 1: So okay, So now they all go shopping. They this
Speaker 1: is where they decide to the cure for a hangover
Speaker 1: for Rachel is shopping. So they d Reit starts looking
Speaker 1: at all this stuff. They go to this designer store
Speaker 1: and deit's looking at all this stuff and she tells
Speaker 1: the camera She's like, you know, I'm not really spending
Speaker 1: that much money, but I do like to treat myself. Like, yes,
Speaker 1: as a single mother, my expenses went up, but I
Speaker 1: really hustle, so you know, I do have like a
Speaker 1: lot of expenses, but like, I still like to treat myself.
Speaker 3: And she kind of goes snuts though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's actually showing her charging stuff thousands and thousands
Speaker 2: of dollars where it almost seems like the others are
Speaker 2: a little word.
Speaker 1: Didn't you feel like Kyle was a little concerned? Yes,
Speaker 1: But I have a lot to say about this because
Speaker 1: so they show that she spends forty five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: on some clothes. Then her credit card gets declined, but
Speaker 1: it turns out false alarm.
Speaker 3: It was just a fraud alert.
Speaker 1: So so and then Rachel is enabling her because Rachel's going, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that that sulky thing is such a vibe,
Speaker 1: like you have to get that. That is a vibe
Speaker 1: like you are vibing so hard right now, like those
Speaker 1: clothes as.
Speaker 3: Like hotgirl summer. Oh my god, we're doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is encouraging her, but it is a lot
Speaker 2: of thousands just in a minute, ten minutes, thousands of
Speaker 2: dollars just laying down on this stuff. You're not going
Speaker 2: to wear right, So then she'll wear it once.
Speaker 1: Kyle's like, I'm going to go next door to this
Speaker 1: jewelry store. And then Rachel leaves Derey to you know,
Speaker 1: settle up, and she goes to talk to Kyle and
Speaker 1: she tells her, yeah, like I die like Deury just
Speaker 1: like bought so much stuff right now, which okay, but Rachel,
Speaker 1: you did tell her to buy all that stuff. You
Speaker 1: were like right behind her, going like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you have to buy it. So then Kyle comes, So
Speaker 1: basically Durree comes to the other store, and I thought
Speaker 1: this was weird. Kyle's right away like giving her a
Speaker 1: hard time about what she spent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't that kind of.
Speaker 1: Feel like, well, Kyle, you're already in trouble for being
Speaker 1: too much in Durit's business. Yeah, why would you start
Speaker 1: going like, yeah, how much did he spend? Be honest,
Speaker 1: imagine if I did. She's not a good friend. She's
Speaker 1: never been a good friend.
Speaker 2: She's her friend is going through a really hard divorce,
Speaker 2: and she's like just sending memes to the ex boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Has been sorry that she wasn't that close to you.
Speaker 2: She talks about DREI she's not She's not a good friend,
Speaker 2: which is what Kyle keeps calling out. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: like she could tear's maybe what you.
Speaker 1: Would be so mad. I know you very well. If
Speaker 1: we went if we went shopping and you went into
Speaker 1: a store and then you and then like our other
Speaker 1: friend was like, oh yeah, Cecily bought a bunch of stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, would you spend be honest, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can spend that. Oh my god, can you have
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars to spend? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It's not nice, it's not sisterly, it's not supportive. No,
Speaker 2: it's weird. She's not great to dread. I've never really liked.
Speaker 2: And that's what Dari has been calling out. And then
Speaker 2: she gaslights to Dread be like, oh my god, you're
Speaker 2: so crazy, you're so anxious talking let me, And it's
Speaker 2: like she Kyle owns nothing. She never owns anything. Right,
Speaker 2: We're like, yeah, I can be and I can be
Speaker 2: a nightmare.
Speaker 3: No never once.
Speaker 1: No. So the next thing that happens makes it worse
Speaker 1: because I'll just skip ahead to So Kyle's on the
Speaker 1: phone with Bo's yes, and she's she's shading to read,
Speaker 1: but she's right, she's what they call concern trolling, right,
Speaker 1: She's like yes, yeah, Like did she you know? I
Speaker 1: don't know, Like Durid's kind of being really scattered, like okay,
Speaker 1: like for instance, like we what she really wants to
Speaker 1: say is something different, which is that like Durt's being crazy,
Speaker 1: maybe she's manic, maybe something else. But what she says,
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, I don't know. She's acting kind of scattered,
Speaker 1: like we went to the airport and she did she
Speaker 1: forgot her like real id.
Speaker 2: So then Bo's is like, she doesn't and she didn't
Speaker 2: have her passport.
Speaker 3: It was like this big to do about that?
Speaker 1: Right, So Bo's tells the camera, you know, it's interesting
Speaker 1: because Kyle uh whatever didn't like whatever about Durit talking
Speaker 1: about p QU but like, and then she got in
Speaker 1: trouble for that. She needs to take her own advice
Speaker 1: and like stop God, stop talking about Deree basically right,
Speaker 1: But then Bose does it too.
Speaker 2: She does do it. She has been doing it a
Speaker 2: little bit more than she was. Yeah, I have noticed that,
Speaker 2: have you, Like she didn't she used to always have
Speaker 2: her back the way that I was even surprised by.
Speaker 2: But now you know, And some of that's fair, like
Speaker 2: because some of that's like, well, maybe she knows her
Speaker 2: a little bit better. They're close enough friends and she'd
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, yeah, sometimes she can do this, which
Speaker 2: is fair.
Speaker 3: But also I'm sort of I guess I.
Speaker 2: Don't know why, but I'm like having issues with FaceTime calls,
Speaker 2: like either be in the scene or not you're getting
Speaker 2: paid a lot of money.
Speaker 1: You don't need to be face to If Bose isn't there,
Speaker 1: you don't need to chat. Just keep going with the
Speaker 1: scene that you're in. I don't know, maybe maybe you
Speaker 1: would disagree because you're like, well, no, I completely agree, No,
Speaker 1: I completely agree. You're just trying to force them talking
Speaker 1: about each other. But also Bose here is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to I'm trying to read what I
Speaker 1: wrote about this scene. But basically she's like, Bose is
Speaker 1: telling us that Kyle, when she got divorced, she really
Speaker 1: like kind of stopped drinking and so so this is
Speaker 1: kind of dangerous for Kyle to be talking about Drey
Speaker 1: being scattered could really get her kids taken away from her.
Speaker 1: That's what bos was saying, Like, this could be dangerous
Speaker 1: for her. Okay, first of all, how is it going
Speaker 1: to be dangerous? I d like she's going to get
Speaker 1: her kids to stop? Yeah, that I thought that was
Speaker 1: like you're doing too much here, Bows. And also when
Speaker 1: you're like, well, Kyle, like when you when you separated
Speaker 1: from Mo, like you you kind of like weren't drinking
Speaker 1: anymore and kind of so that could have gotten you
Speaker 1: in trouble. What oh so wait, so cutting down on
Speaker 1: your drinking or cutting stopping drinking, that's that's going to
Speaker 1: get your you to lose custody. Like, none of it
Speaker 1: makes sense, and so this is what I wrote down
Speaker 1: for myself. I feel like something else is going on
Speaker 1: that they're not saying, and I feel that what they're
Speaker 1: dancing around is that they're saying that Durree is acting
Speaker 1: manic and that if they talk about that, that Kyle's
Speaker 1: trying to say that, and that that could get her
Speaker 1: kids taken.
Speaker 2: You know, here's what I'm going to say about Okay,
Speaker 2: I think you're right, and I thought of that too,
Speaker 2: but I think that it's no different than what Dured
Speaker 2: has always been. I don't think she's bipolar. I think
Speaker 2: she's always a little bit manic. She's not eating, so
Speaker 2: she's very like squirrely. She's you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to say too thin because I don't want to body
Speaker 2: shame her, but she's very thin, seems to be living
Speaker 2: on diet, coke and cigarettes, which she's made that joke.
Speaker 2: She doesn't seem to be taking care of herself, and yeah,
Speaker 2: spending a lot, drinking a lot always late. She definitely
Speaker 2: has like ADHD and all that. But yeah, is she
Speaker 2: a little manic, of course, But I don't think it's
Speaker 2: any different than who Dared has always been.
Speaker 3: That was a long way to say that. I think
Speaker 3: she's just that's who she is.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: So so bringing it up Ash as their friend as
Speaker 2: a friend, because that's implying that she's different than usual
Speaker 2: and maybe PK should take a look at that.
Speaker 3: But no, she's just flitty deriy, that's it. I always relate.
Speaker 1: But if Bose feels that way, then why are they
Speaker 1: doing this weird? Like, yeah, maybe we should like really
Speaker 1: come up with a game plan to like help her
Speaker 1: be more focused, Like what are you talking about? First
Speaker 1: of all, neither one of you are actually friends with Derey,
Speaker 1: like actually good friends with her, like this whole season
Speaker 1: Bose is knew on a show about the housewives, Bose
Speaker 1: has her own friends. Yeah, it's they're show friends. They
Speaker 1: are these two women are not hanging out outside of
Speaker 1: the show. I don't believe. Sorry to come off forceful
Speaker 1: about that, I just don't. I don't believe that they're
Speaker 1: true good friends. They have no history together, So who's
Speaker 1: bos to be like yeah, we need to have like
Speaker 1: an intervention on her focus.
Speaker 3: Right, No, you don their kids at stake, and a
Speaker 3: divorce is a stake.
Speaker 2: I'd be real mad if my friends were talking about
Speaker 2: me like that when I was going through something like this,
Speaker 2: because PK will use every single ounce of it for
Speaker 2: for himself. Yes, I mean, and I'm not saying he
Speaker 2: doesn't love his kids. I think he does. I think
Speaker 2: PK actually loves his kids. But then you also look
Speaker 2: at the flips that is like, yeah, of course she
Speaker 2: wants more custody because he can get more money from her,
Speaker 2: although I don't know that she has more money than
Speaker 2: he does.
Speaker 3: I don't know how that's going to go down.
Speaker 1: But it's it's you know, it's chaotic, it's crazy, and
Speaker 1: it's not surprising. So we have this stupid FaceTime, which
Speaker 1: I am so sick of. And then do we go
Speaker 1: back there? When do we go to Erica? Now? Now
Speaker 1: we go to uh Sutton at a rustaurant with Jennifer Tilley.
Speaker 1: J God, Yes, she's being so over the top with
Speaker 1: the waiter. She's like, illove your.
Speaker 4: Name, Oh Jen, my name is Jen. I wasn't bound,
Speaker 4: did you see bound? My husband was the Simpsons guy,
Speaker 4: but he died. But again it's Victor. Sit down with us, Victor.
Speaker 4: I have a tattoo, want to see it. I'm so hungry, Victor.
Speaker 4: Can I get a beautiful rose?
Speaker 1: What food could I get that would make me not
Speaker 1: feel the hunger feelings?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Chip, okay, you just seem like you would know, Victor.
Speaker 3: Thank you for being.
Speaker 2: Such a great guy. I had a guy do that
Speaker 2: one time on a date. He was such a nice guy.
Speaker 2: So I'm not putting him, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that I'm saying you shouldn't be a
Speaker 1: good guy and be like really nice to wait staff.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite thing. We want that, right, Yes, but
Speaker 2: it was over the top. He's like, what's your name?
Speaker 3: Jenny?
Speaker 1: Hi, Jenny, Hey, Jenny, what are you any kept saying
Speaker 1: her name, said his name, said.
Speaker 2: My name, this is Cesli. I'm like, God, So Jenny
Speaker 2: doesn't care. So then she it's sushi. She she leaves,
Speaker 2: comes back with sushi and he's like, oh, Jenny, this
Speaker 2: looks great. Thank you Jenny. It was like, oh God,
Speaker 2: that's too much the other way.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I have so many stories about that kind
Speaker 1: of thing.
Speaker 3: But okay, so.
Speaker 1: Something's right away, Like, you know, I rented a house
Speaker 1: here one time. I'll rented a house here one time,
Speaker 1: and that was when I was still with Christian. First
Speaker 1: of all, why are we trying to make her marriage
Speaker 1: story happened twenty years ago? What the actual fuck? I
Speaker 1: don't know they have They literally have been divorced like
Speaker 1: ten years. They've never been together on the show. We've
Speaker 1: never met him. No, it's absurd. It's really sad. They've
Speaker 1: done that with other housewives before.
Speaker 2: But she's but the whole thing of like, I know,
Speaker 2: I'm just brown again.
Speaker 3: I just gotta be Sutton Brown. I don't know what
Speaker 3: that's going to look like. Shut up.
Speaker 1: And this reminds me, live your life. Probably I'll live
Speaker 1: somewhere between Los Angeles and San Diego before I had house.
Speaker 1: And I have pictures, pictures with my daughter Porter in
Speaker 1: a picture from that from those times. And Jennifer's like.
Speaker 3: Oh a picture, Oh poor, like you painted it?
Speaker 2: Did someone drag a picture? No, it's like a picture,
Speaker 2: like a photograph from it camera. And she's like, like
Speaker 2: a sketch.
Speaker 1: No, not like a sketch, like an oil pat My
Speaker 1: husband used to sell oil paintings.
Speaker 3: Let's give Victor the waiter over and talk to him
Speaker 3: about oil paintings. Why are you here?
Speaker 1: Wow? And then Jennifer Tilly does this thing to camera
Speaker 1: where she's like, well, when I used to be friends
Speaker 1: with Sutton twenty years ago, she had a husband who
Speaker 1: was very wealthy, and she was super so sophisticated, she
Speaker 1: was on the board of things, and but there were
Speaker 1: cracks in her marriage. Okay, she hasn't been married in
Speaker 1: the whole time, like we keep saying, and at her
Speaker 1: husband now is with one of her friends and he
Speaker 1: wants to marry.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah that was news. That was news.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was her friend because we knew that Christian
Speaker 2: was getting married. He's going to the church. She wants
Speaker 2: to make sure, like religious wise, they're and old. She's
Speaker 2: got to take rid of strack and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this was information that he is marrying one
Speaker 2: of her friends. Yeah, that would suck, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: they're not that good of friends.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: And also, so Sting did Sting and Trudy did that
Speaker 2: to his wife?
Speaker 3: Really? Yes, Sting was married to someone else.
Speaker 1: And then I was all into like the Tean trick
Speaker 1: sex Tan trick.
Speaker 2: Yes, trick very open about all his weird stuff whatever.
Speaker 2: I think they were swinging and just never talked about that.
Speaker 2: I think that they were open and you know, he
Speaker 2: could have sex with her, and then he fell in
Speaker 2: love with the friend and it's been with her for decades.
Speaker 2: Oopsie's was it Trudy's again or just a friend of
Speaker 2: the custu Is Trudy is the new one? I think
Speaker 2: she's the now wife.
Speaker 1: Right, But I'm saying was it was the was the wife?
Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: We'll look into that for another day. But yes, it's
Speaker 2: something that happened, and that sucks for Sutton. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I don't know how close they were, but she was
Speaker 2: like she even really want to talk about it.
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, well what I find interesting.
Speaker 1: What I find interesting is that she doesn't want to
Speaker 1: talk about it, but that would actually be a story
Speaker 1: point that we would care about, which Sutton is that.
Speaker 3: She wants these lawsuits.
Speaker 1: I guarantee he's put a big, big, big gag.
Speaker 3: She's very gagged on what she can say about him.
Speaker 2: I can almost one hundred percent that guy with that
Speaker 2: kind of wealth, he dangles all the money he gives
Speaker 2: to her on You cannot talk about our marriage. You
Speaker 2: can say we were married, you can say my name
Speaker 2: that I'm the father of your children or child, but
Speaker 2: you can't talk about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess I think that's what it is, because she
Speaker 1: would have otherwise. Yeah, all right, So Erica is now
Speaker 1: having therapy with doctor Jen.
Speaker 2: Doctor Jen, who you can take. Somebody I know knows her. Oh,
Speaker 2: really was like married to her or something something kind
Speaker 2: of close. I was at a dinner party and she
Speaker 2: came up and they were like, oh, yeah, so and
Speaker 2: so used to date her or something.
Speaker 3: It was really weird. I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 2: But she Well, how do you feel about the television therapist?
Speaker 3: I'm torn?
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't. I don't like it, and you know
Speaker 1: I don't. I've never we've talked about doctor Jen before
Speaker 1: because she's been on the show.
Speaker 3: I do She's not great. But what about Doctor Drew?
Speaker 3: I enjoyed. I mean I think it killed I think
Speaker 3: Celebrity Rehab killed a lot of people.
Speaker 2: It is really fucked up, but I think I enjoyed
Speaker 2: watching it a weird way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fucked up show that really exploited people. It really
Speaker 3: exploited people.
Speaker 2: But doctor Drew, I love him or hate him like
Speaker 2: he had he was knowledgeable. He was an actual doctor
Speaker 2: who was like, this is the medication you have to
Speaker 2: take to get you know, get over heroin or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: She doesn't have it. She's like a life coach on Instagram. Yes,
Speaker 2: and also intense. I want to also say, like we
Speaker 2: said at the beginning of the episode, now the music
Speaker 2: is just swell.
Speaker 1: Everything's huge. So Erica's upset. She's very upset because she
Speaker 1: just she's tired of her life. She's tired of having
Speaker 1: problems in her life, and she just wants to get
Speaker 1: to a place where she doesn't have any pro almost
Speaker 1: And doctor Jen, okay, you be Erica, say that.
Speaker 3: I'm Erica Elean. I'm gonna be doctor Jen.
Speaker 1: Okay, I just I just like I just when am
Speaker 1: I gonna like not have problems anymore? Look at me,
Speaker 1: Look at me, Erica, Erica, Jane, Erica, Jane Girardi.
Speaker 3: You look at me.
Speaker 1: And then that's kind of a good impression of her voice.
Speaker 1: Even she's like Okay, she's like, that will never be happening. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you understand that's never gonna happen. Because you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's life, that's life. Erica, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what am I?
Speaker 4: What? What is this?
Speaker 1: I did for a second, I felt scared. I didn't
Speaker 1: feel anything but scared. If you're going to give the advice,
Speaker 1: if you're if your whole therapy session is just going
Speaker 1: you know what, life is just life, like that's what happens.
Speaker 1: Like if I can tell you, if I can give
Speaker 1: you one piece of advice, it's that like here and now,
Speaker 1: that's all you.
Speaker 3: All we have is the here now?
Speaker 1: Like why would I pay five hundred dollars a session
Speaker 1: to have doctor Jen come over when I could just
Speaker 1: like look through Instagram and find some Mel Robbins quotes.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't hate that. I could go to
Speaker 1: fucking home Goods and read something on a pillow. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it made me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was an intent you didn't really get anywhere.
Speaker 2: She cried a little bit. I'm glad Eric is in therapy,
Speaker 2: but it's like maybe we do it behind club. But
Speaker 2: that's fine. I related to what Erica was saying. Actually
Speaker 2: I really did, but you know, I don't know that
Speaker 2: I need I didn't need the music.
Speaker 1: Well, and the whole point of the scene was to
Speaker 1: be a very special episode of Real Housewives where Erica
Speaker 1: is now bringing up again her domestic violence chart, you know,
Speaker 1: And it was basically a very special episode. They have
Speaker 1: to put up a chiron and tell you where to
Speaker 1: like get help. What happened just in the middle of
Speaker 1: the episode.
Speaker 3: That was weird too.
Speaker 2: It's like the scene finished and then I was I
Speaker 2: was hoping it was the end of ye I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that went fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and no we had to go back to the
Speaker 3: handstuns well.
Speaker 1: And it was also like, okay, and listen, maybe this
Speaker 1: is going to be very problematic of me to say,
Speaker 1: but I you know me, I have to say something
Speaker 1: super problematic every every time we record. But I feel
Speaker 1: like this is such a tryhard for Erica to rehab
Speaker 1: her image. Like we're also in the same scene talking
Speaker 1: about the fact that she owes twenty five million dollars.
Speaker 1: She's being sued for twenty five million dollars. Okay, who
Speaker 1: is that money for victims?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Why do we are we lot time.
Speaker 1: She's trying to shift, which let's not forget how Erica
Speaker 1: behaved in seasons past, where she was so much better
Speaker 1: than everybody. She had so much money, she had a
Speaker 1: giant glam squad following her everywhere she went. She was
Speaker 1: the most self important, narcissistic, like, I'm a sicker, I'm
Speaker 1: a perfarmer. Everybody's gonna come see like, and did not
Speaker 1: give a fuck about anybody else, and by the way,
Speaker 1: said many times, I don't care about the victims. I
Speaker 1: care about me. And now it's like I just felt
Speaker 1: like it was very placed to shift it to like,
Speaker 1: but I was a victim of domestic violence, which, of
Speaker 1: course that's terrible, and I feel awful for her, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't take away the fact that you're being sued
Speaker 1: for good reason.
Speaker 3: Right, thank you? Right? Right? Agreed? Yeah, it was okay.
Speaker 2: So then we have this really intense scene and then
Speaker 2: we go this is when we go back to the Hampton's, right,
Speaker 2: because everyone's meeting Rachel's family, yes, for this day party.
Speaker 2: Who I love the family, by the way, I really did.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to hang I like
Speaker 2: these parents. She has a very healthy home life. She
Speaker 2: came from wealth, all me money.
Speaker 1: Two parents don't seem to love her like she's a good,
Speaker 1: solid like life.
Speaker 3: I would say, is that fair to say?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was the funny part of this
Speaker 1: scene was that Derey can not be on time. I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought the shade, the Kyle shade was valid. She's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing, like she's always late, and
Speaker 1: it's one thing to be late, like when we're you know,
Speaker 1: meeting somewhere.
Speaker 3: But this is you just have to come downstairs or
Speaker 3: not even leaving the house. They were staying there.
Speaker 2: Like that was weird because what is that she has
Speaker 2: a problem, But she's always had this. I think it's
Speaker 2: just it really is like add she just has an issue,
Speaker 2: takes her flam squad a long time.
Speaker 3: She's a perfectionist. I think she has OCD.
Speaker 1: I had someone in my family who had that and
Speaker 1: there would be you know, we'd be meeting at dinner
Speaker 1: and he'd.
Speaker 3: Be hours hours.
Speaker 2: In fact, he was that way and then his like
Speaker 2: nephew was the same way and they had the same OCD.
Speaker 2: Where like, I don't we don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: It could be anything. It could be picking you know,
Speaker 2: their face, it could be any thing. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: real and I think she has that.
Speaker 1: Remember years ago and you probably don't remember this, And
Speaker 1: I don't know why I remember this, But do you
Speaker 1: remember when Durrete's lateness was a problem with Teddy and
Speaker 1: they were meeting at a restaurant or something, and and
Speaker 1: it turned out that Dereite had been like at her
Speaker 1: house taking Instagram photos and that Remember I could be
Speaker 1: combining two things, but I remember that she. I remember
Speaker 1: that Teddy was that they were all mad because it
Speaker 1: wasn't just OCD. It was like Deurite was just had
Speaker 1: a photographer over doing Instagram photos before she left the house.
Speaker 3: She was super late.
Speaker 2: She's not good with time, and in this case, but
Speaker 2: before she gets there, everyone's just kind of chilling with
Speaker 2: their parents and meeting the you know, the brother in law,
Speaker 2: whoever is there, who all seemed just perfectly lovely. But again,
Speaker 2: the music was really like there was a lot going on.
Speaker 2: I watched this this morning, so it wasn't being tired,
Speaker 2: and Kyle.
Speaker 3: Was just like Hi, she's ill, Like Kyle's.
Speaker 2: Really putting it on in the scene, yes, like okay,
Speaker 2: And then she says to camera she's like kind of
Speaker 2: passive a ground. I understand what she says because I
Speaker 2: get envious of people who have families like Rachel, because
Speaker 2: I don't never have and you you had either. So
Speaker 2: when I know what she's saying, when she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, must must be nice. Like I wish I
Speaker 2: could call my mom when I'm going through this divorce,
Speaker 2: but I feel like that's a little bit different, like
Speaker 2: call your mom or call her mom, because what you're
Speaker 2: really saying is you wish you could call a mom.
Speaker 3: But Kyle's mom was not well right.
Speaker 1: She was alcoholic, And I know what she's saying, she
Speaker 1: wished she'd had that, but the way she said it
Speaker 1: just made it seem like it was just so sad
Speaker 1: that her mom wasn't there because I don't think that
Speaker 1: would have been the comfort she thinks it would have been, right,
Speaker 1: But I also do understand what she.
Speaker 2: Was saying, but that was just that was so intense.
Speaker 2: And then Durite finally shows up and she's fine, She's
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 3: Oh, hello, hello.
Speaker 2: But then the conversation became about Roger because Rachel tells
Speaker 2: us that like Roger wasn't just a son in law
Speaker 2: to them, he was he was their son, he.
Speaker 1: Was their everything, their whole lives. They loved him so
Speaker 1: much and.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't let her put him down, Like even if
Speaker 2: she was going to. They were like, but he was
Speaker 2: a good guy though, right he's still and she's kind
Speaker 2: of stuck.
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, yeah, no, he's totally a good guy.
Speaker 2: Of course that sucked for her, but I understood maybe
Speaker 2: they were trying to help her too, like she's also
Speaker 2: going through divorce, like po cool, be chill.
Speaker 3: So then we find out.
Speaker 2: Through well, this is maybe maybe a little out of
Speaker 2: out of order, but he cheated. She wants you to know,
Speaker 2: very hard, very hardcore, that he cheated on her, because
Speaker 2: this is maybe afterwards where they're just at dinner with
Speaker 2: the girls, yeah, and she's talking about it. She's like, yeah, babitas,
Speaker 2: because it's the anniversary of the day exactly or goes
Speaker 2: when it all happened, like just it's like the It's
Speaker 2: like she's vague posting on Facebook, yes happened, Like what happened?
Speaker 1: She's like, well, it all came down. I remember it
Speaker 1: was October. I remember it was August. I remember the day.
Speaker 3: And then somehow Kyle knows. She's like was it August third,
Speaker 3: Like how do you know that?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: And she's like, I just remember the day and I
Speaker 2: knew that was that. I was having trouble with Roger,
Speaker 2: but I was scared should I leave? And I knew
Speaker 2: that day with what he told me that I should leave.
Speaker 1: And it's so obvious, and Dureid's like, well wait, hold on,
Speaker 1: go back a little bit, like what did he tell you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I was very thankful for her. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And she was like, I mean and did she even
Speaker 1: still ever say it? Did they guess it? No? She
Speaker 1: then she just said it. Then she then she's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, she goes, well, why did you leave? And
Speaker 1: she's she's like was it something he said? And she's
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, oh and then she goes, well sold
Speaker 1: me straight out. So the thing that happened, what was
Speaker 1: the thing that happened? And she's like she basically is
Speaker 1: kind of vague again, and then she's like, well, there
Speaker 1: was a you know, a thing that I could never
Speaker 1: go back. And they're like, okay, but what so the thing,
Speaker 1: the crazy thing that happened that made you know you
Speaker 1: could never go back?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 1: What? How did you find out I found out? Or
Speaker 1: he told said to you? And she's like, he said
Speaker 1: it to me?
Speaker 3: What he did? So she'd like walk in on it.
Speaker 3: He told her. Then they have a conversation which was interesting.
Speaker 1: They're like, do you think he told you because he
Speaker 1: felt guilty or like, no, he told me to hurt me.
Speaker 1: And that's a little bit like that's information because then
Speaker 1: she tells the story and she's like, Okay, you guys,
Speaker 1: I mean like it's always been weird. I mean like
Speaker 1: four years we've been dating four years, and like did
Speaker 1: I cheated? You know?
Speaker 2: I was like messed around with the hottest model you've
Speaker 2: ever seen, Like you guys, she almost has to go
Speaker 2: They almost have.
Speaker 3: To reel her in, like Okay, we get it.
Speaker 2: The guy was hot to so you guys, he was
Speaker 2: so hot, so I like messed around with him and
Speaker 2: then I told Roger and guess what biggest ring I've
Speaker 2: ever had?
Speaker 3: Like proposed the next day and like what is the
Speaker 3: point of that story?
Speaker 1: The Kyle goes, well, I know you guys weren't married yet,
Speaker 1: but like how long have you been together? And she
Speaker 1: goes like four years a couple of months, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, are we to get are we exclusive? Right?
Speaker 3: So she tells him so is that is?
Speaker 2: She's saying he played the long game for fifteen years
Speaker 2: and then was like, guess what, I cheated too, bitch.
Speaker 1: I was like, that is so fucking weird. And I
Speaker 1: was completely on Kyle's side when she's like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but that's fucked up, Like what are you saying? Like
Speaker 1: you totally cheated on him, so you're not trustworthy. But
Speaker 1: that's not a way to start a marriage, like and
Speaker 1: now you're mad at him? Yeah, because so then they
Speaker 1: as part of this, they're like, well, do you think
Speaker 1: he felt insecure? She goes, no, he was like totally
Speaker 1: secure just until like the last six or seven years.
Speaker 3: Only that. Yeah, just that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And again this very intense conversation, her necklaces are just
Speaker 2: jangling in the in the in the moonlight. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was having jewelry on in your filming. It's too much
Speaker 2: because you can hear it on your on their on
Speaker 2: their microphone, right like anyway, you.
Speaker 3: Guys, I die. It's like, oh my god, I die.
Speaker 3: We all die.
Speaker 1: He died during this episode because what the hell? So
Speaker 1: what we skipped over though was kind of major was
Speaker 1: the Kili Okay, so Keiley.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, they go to dinner.
Speaker 1: They go to dinner with the daughter Keeley and Bo's
Speaker 1: and their daughter, go have this another very Did you
Speaker 1: know the music was out of.
Speaker 3: Control during this scene too? Yes, yes it was. Oh
Speaker 3: it got weird. That got weird.
Speaker 1: He's like, sometimes I don't know if I can like
Speaker 1: keep up, you know, like what if I lose my job,
Speaker 1: Like what if I can't take care of things or whatever?
Speaker 3: And Boz is like, don't you worry about that. I
Speaker 3: got that.
Speaker 1: You just better have that dick working. That's basically what
Speaker 1: she said. She didn't say it like that, but that's
Speaker 1: what I heard. Well, but what what I felt like
Speaker 1: was way weirder about the scene was that he she's
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, I just you know, okay, first of all,
Speaker 1: he says, so like, first of all, first of all,
Speaker 1: as I said last episode, I find it completely weird
Speaker 1: and sort of inappropriate to just be like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I was in front of your daughter, to just be
Speaker 1: like I was really sad when like the embryos didn't take,
Speaker 1: like we lost those embryos, like bye bye to the embryos.
Speaker 1: It's I don't know if i'm Leelle, I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: like I'm your kids sitting right in front of you.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I need to be your emotional
Speaker 1: sounding board on how devastated you are that you're not
Speaker 1: having another baby right now. But okay, so she's over
Speaker 1: sharing in my opinion. And then Keeley's like, okay, but
Speaker 1: like if this next one doesn't take, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: are you gonna want.
Speaker 3: To take a break?
Speaker 1: Okay, She's like fifty Oh.
Speaker 3: My god, like is she really fifty?
Speaker 1: No? But she's like forty seven right, right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: So what of course? What?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Like, why are you pressuring this woman into having a
Speaker 1: baby and doing this to her body? So that's when
Speaker 1: Bo's tells the camera like, yeah, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm really worried that if I can't have a baby,
Speaker 1: can't give him a baby, He's not going to be
Speaker 1: into it. He's gonna either leave me for somebody who can,
Speaker 1: or like I don't know, go do it on his own. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's not healthy. So then he says he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know she's she says, well, I'm really worried,
Speaker 1: like what happens if it doesn't take? And what happens
Speaker 1: if I can't have a baby? And he goes and
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound very reassuring. He's like, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: i'd marry you anyway. She goes okay, and then he
Speaker 1: goes into the thing about like, well, my fear is
Speaker 1: like what if I lose my source of income?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She goes, well you bring other things to the table,
Speaker 1: and he goes, no, No, I mean, I mean I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep working. I'm going to keep like I want to
Speaker 1: keep my businesses and stuff. And he goes, I like
Speaker 1: having my own money.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: That was weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was weird the whole thing. It was weird
Speaker 2: to be in front of the daughter. Yeah, that was odd.
Speaker 2: I'd forgotten about that scene. I wrote down like bullet
Speaker 2: points on that one because it was like kind of
Speaker 2: a nothing. I was like, it's very intense. It doesn't
Speaker 2: seem appropriate for conversation. But I know that she likes
Speaker 2: to bring her daughter in there, and that's fine. They
Speaker 2: have that kind of relationship.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I just I didn't even notice.
Speaker 3: I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't recognize him as Keeley at first. I thought
Speaker 2: it was just somebody else you thought she had, like
Speaker 2: a new boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought it was like her brother. I don't like
Speaker 2: my face. Blind has kicked in on that, so it
Speaker 2: took me a second. I was like, because he just
Speaker 2: seemed different. Maybe he's tired. I don't know, but.
Speaker 3: It was weird. I didn't love that either. I just
Speaker 3: it was fine. I like him, so I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to I think we should end on a
Speaker 2: good note. Let's name the people we like. Let's name
Speaker 2: the people we like. We like Bose, we would hang
Speaker 2: with her if she would have us. Keeley seems like
Speaker 2: a nice guy. Okay, we like them.
Speaker 1: Who else I'm gonna say, I don't really, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I like Bo's She's fine. I don't care
Speaker 1: about her being on the show. I don't think she
Speaker 1: brings anything. All she talks about is the fertility stuff,
Speaker 1: which I guess I don't know. I'm not going through,
Speaker 1: so I don't relate. And that's not that's not I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I don't like her. I'm just saying I
Speaker 1: don't care. Like I'm not like, oh a bo scene.
Speaker 1: I think she's trying to shit talk people and trying
Speaker 1: to be in on shit talking people for no real reason.
Speaker 1: She doesn't really have a history with these women, right,
Speaker 1: That's not okay, So I don't really care about that.
Speaker 1: I'm finding myself really not caring about Rachel Zoe. I
Speaker 1: think her.
Speaker 2: Story, don't. I mean, I don't dislike her, but I
Speaker 2: don't totally whatever. Kyle's too much, reads, too much, Eric
Speaker 2: is too much, like is there anybody? But I guess
Speaker 2: that's the show. I mean, if I think back to
Speaker 2: The Shark, Yeah, people are saying that people are they
Speaker 2: are like.
Speaker 1: I think it's feeling very forced. I haven't seen what
Speaker 1: people's reaction is, but now when I watch it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like, honestly, bring me Amanda scenes back,
Speaker 1: because that was so They're way funnier. She's so crazy.
Speaker 2: People aren't even talking about it on Whispering, Like it's
Speaker 2: not even on people's lips.
Speaker 3: I'm going to Whispering right now.
Speaker 2: And well, a lot of it's Housewife because of Mary
Speaker 2: Cosby's son, you know, dying.
Speaker 3: So people are discussing that. Okay.
Speaker 2: One person just wrote yesterday Jennifer Tilly's bag at the
Speaker 2: lunch with Sutt and it's just a weird picture of
Speaker 2: a cat that's funny and built and then somebody some
Speaker 2: people try to get political with Epstein files unrelated. I
Speaker 2: don't like when whispering does that they okay again more
Speaker 2: with Mary but no, there's a lot of Southern charm,
Speaker 2: which you know I love and get all up in
Speaker 2: m but no Housewives. Yeah, well, I mean, listen, somebody
Speaker 2: wrought Bravo.
Speaker 3: Please stop trying to make mo happen. Oh my god, yeah, yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's very put on, which is probably part of the
Speaker 1: reason why Moe and Kyle have to pretend to be
Speaker 1: like such good friends is because he's a big part
Speaker 1: of Bravo.
Speaker 2: Right now, Yeah, somebody said, somebody did say CULTI Amanda
Speaker 2: has to be won and done right. So this was
Speaker 2: five days ago, so someone did say that. A lot
Speaker 2: of people agree, and someone's like, yeah, I really want
Speaker 2: to know this audience that made her rich and listen
Speaker 2: to her bullshit and manifesting audience. We need an ABC
Speaker 2: special asap. I don't know what that means, but you know,
Speaker 2: anymore for outside of that special, I think we're all
Speaker 2: going to tune out, just like the cast did this year.
Speaker 3: Then they're talking about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we can. I mean, we can tell
Speaker 1: you that the numbers for this show have gone down,
Speaker 1: So I think that it's not because we're less funny,
Speaker 1: because we're just as hilarious as always. Obviously it's not us.
Speaker 1: So I think people are not watching this season as much.
Speaker 2: They're calling Amanda Scamanda because she's a scam artist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Love it, Scamanda, and then this making me laugh before
Speaker 1: we go this is kind of funny.
Speaker 2: Uh well, one person like, at this point, I'd rather
Speaker 2: have Renna. I would definitely have Renna. I mean, oh
Speaker 2: my god, bring her back. This is what's funny. So
Speaker 2: one said, probably they go Kyle zero for two for
Speaker 2: new friends, first Anne Marie and now this creature.
Speaker 3: They called it Amanda. Uh huh, that makes me laugh,
Speaker 3: But that's true.
Speaker 2: I told you, why is Kyle buddying up to these
Speaker 2: new people? Because nobody else wants to deal with her
Speaker 2: because she will turn on you and make you look
Speaker 2: by shit and we don't like that.
Speaker 1: No, no, but we're yeah, we're not seeing all of
Speaker 1: what's going on with Drey. We're seeing way too much
Speaker 1: of what's going on with Bo's because it's nothing. I
Speaker 1: don't care about Sutton at all, never liked her, don't
Speaker 1: like her anymore this season I don't know, boring, but
Speaker 1: it's still like, it's still fun to watch. But bring
Speaker 1: Amanda back. Let's let's get to the parts where they're
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