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and Scale Television. It's it's something I'll tell you, ladies.

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I have a question, and I know a lot of

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you listen to this show. Do you remember what it

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was like to be a teenage girl? I grew up

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around a bunch of teenage girls cousins, and they always

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had some kind of drama or trauma in their life.

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It's probably where I get my flair for the dramatic.

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But I've heard that being a teenage girl is well

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hell at times, much worse than boys. Teenage girls hormones

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are raging, they are irritable, testy, and reactive. They're like

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a live wire. Everything is annoying to a teenage girl,

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especially her parents. So when you think back to those

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days were you were you difficult? Were there things that

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you look back and regret on? Maybe things that you

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said to your parents when they wouldn't let you get

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your way, anything still haunt you to this day. How

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many times did you scream I want to kill my

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dad when he told you no? How many times did

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you wish your parents would disappear forever so you could

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just get on with your life free from the burden.

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Of course, you never really meant it, did you, But

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have you.

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Speaker 5: Ever thought about what would have happened if that wish

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had actually come true?

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Speaker 1: On October one, twenty twenty one, sixty four year old

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Conrad and Mirowitz found himself at the hospital in Grand Blanc, Michigan. Yes, yes, yes,

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I know it's Grand Blanc or some shit. Nobody really cares.

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Just pay attention to the story, Okay. Anyway, Conrad was

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in rough shape when he arrived at the emergency room.

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He had severe chemical burns all over his head, torso, arms,

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and legs. Conrad's fingers were so burned that the skin

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had peeled off, exposing the fleshy, raw red tissue underneath. Yup,

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his legs were turning green. He was hanging on by

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a threat. Conrad was also confused and drunk, very drunk.

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Let's just say he blew almost four times the legal

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limit when he was admitted into the emergency room. So

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Conrad wasn't totally sure what had happened, and everyone at

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the hospital was equally as confused as to what had

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caused his burns. Here's one of the nurses in the

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er who dealt with him that night.

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Speaker 2: And even before Girland brought the patient in, the paramats

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approached me and be like, hey, we should probably take

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a look at this guy because we don't know what's

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the cause of these burns, and we were concerned about

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the possible chemical or some type of chemical exposures to

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the physician at the time said that we should decon

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this patient being we don't know what the offending Asian is.

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So we put him into our decontamination room and started

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rinsing the patient down for any type of chemical materials

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or anything like that.

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Speaker 6: Done other bore No, actually ahead fifteen years your first

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time correct.

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Speaker 1: In the emergency room, Conrad was cleaned to remove any

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potential hazardous chemicals. He ached and moaned, but with the

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alcohol in his system and the severity of his burns,

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he was floating through the pain. Most of his nerve

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endings had been damaged by the chemicals, so he was

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falling into comfortable numbness.

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Speaker 2: I was a paramedic as well, and so I've seen

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like house fire burns that weren't that bad.

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Speaker 1: As the nurses tended to Conrad, he tried to ask

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them what happened.

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Speaker 2: I started asking him what was going on, What's what happened?

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And he stated that he's like, oh, I did bomb

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my house used like an a stect beside bomb a

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couple of days ago. He's like, maybe that's what caused this.

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Speaker 1: So the nurse called poison control to get more information.

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Speaker 2: He said what I was describing was more like an

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alcoholitic type burn. After I got off the phone Points

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Control I reported my findings what I spoke with fun

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Points Controls to the physicians, and I received no further

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orders at that time.

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Speaker 7: Were you able to stabilize him?

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Speaker 2: I didn't get another IVY like I wanted to, but

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his vitals were stable at the time.

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Speaker 1: Conrad seemed to sober up, and as the pain medication

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kicked in and the treatment soothed his skin, he was

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able to collect himself. Soon two of his sons arrived

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at the hospital, and the nurse overheard them talking with Conrad.

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Speaker 2: They were trying to discuss their like most of us like,

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what had happened at this point that the patient did

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seem slightly more responsive than when he first came in.

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Disgusting with that that he remembered his daughter throwing a

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white powder on him when he was on the couch.

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Speaker 1: Conrad remembered that he'd gotten into a fight with his

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teenage daughter, Megan in Merrowitz. That's the last thing that

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he recalled. She threw something at him. The concerned nurse

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who heard this called the police and reported the assault

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as soon as they showed up, they wanted to talk

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to Conrad.

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Speaker 8: She wondered, Yeah, he would be placed earlier for whatever reason.

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So there was at an hotel she wanted to hear colored.

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Speaker 1: Conrad said something had pissed Megan off. He wasn't sure.

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He remember she had a hair appointment or something. His

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memory was foggy, but Conrad's memory was often foggy. He

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was kind of a big drinker.

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Speaker 8: Yes, last night, you know, she threw a bunch of

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stuff at me, got mad.

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Speaker 7: What do you what stuff meaning?

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Speaker 9: But there's a.

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Speaker 8: She rearranged her bedroom so there was a mattress on

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the wall.

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Speaker 7: He dad went crazy on that stuff.

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Speaker 8: You know, if I Baskedard take out the gardens several times,

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his dad hasn't been working.

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Speaker 7: But is this is this kind of I'm trying to

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gauge this.

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Speaker 10: Is this a normal behavior that she would throw stuff

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on you to burn you.

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Speaker 7: No, you know she usually is an argument.

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Speaker 8: No, I get mad at her, she gets mad at me,

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bad around with each other. It's normal, okay, right, But

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this is this is very very good.

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Speaker 1: Conrad and Meghan lived alone in a split level home.

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He drank a lot, and she was your typical eighteen

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year old girl, always on her phone and often irritated

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with her father. They bickered a lot, but they also

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loved each other.

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Speaker 8: We had a half to suit her off. Yeah, it's

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a bottle down. It's a quarters, a little.

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Speaker 10: One off party calling ice.

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Speaker 7: Oh a beer like the beer fest. Yeah, like the

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Seltzer drink. Loving me so to have to move wife's

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of movies.

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Speaker 11: Set it off my phone.

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Speaker 9: It's falling at night, and it was pretty early this morning.

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Speaker 8: Gun it up, says by smear off surrests of the movie.

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Speaker 7: Way back to that, okay, they said, Oh, I got

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all kinds of people in the house.

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Speaker 3: It's still.

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Speaker 6: You are you Were you sleeping when this happened.

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Speaker 9: Or were you conscious?

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Speaker 12: No sleeping.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have anything drink.

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Speaker 10: I won't bother you that much.

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Speaker 7: All I need if you don't remember, you don't remember all.

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Speaker 13: I just want to know.

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Speaker 7: If you go in your house to insay.

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Speaker 13: What happened, go ahead, okay.

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Speaker 1: Another nurse on the scene gave her two cents to

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the cops.

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Speaker 12: I'm trying to he said, sit down on a couch.

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Speaker 13: He doesn't know when it happened.

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Speaker 9: And then his family friends family with you.

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Speaker 14: So he was.

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Speaker 15: He was super lucky. If you have a husband, all

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three hundred al would be a point free kind.

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Speaker 9: So he doesn't have a red laving it from the restaurant.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So.

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Speaker 16: All right, well we're going to go talk with the daughter.

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Speaker 7: Understand Yep.

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Speaker 13: I appreciate it, and I guess it's really all I need.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So I appreciate tea green hine away.

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Speaker 1: To be clear, if you're blowing a point three blood

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alcohol level, you're almost dead. We're talking like ten to

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fifteen drinks. Although that was me or nothing for an

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immortal like myself back in my heydays of drinking. To

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the average person, that would kill you. Most people would

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black out or end up with their stomachs pumped. But

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not Conrad. He was a seasoned drinker, a real vet.

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Soon the police found Megan at a hotel where she

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was partying with her friends. She was nonchalant as they

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quizzed her.

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Speaker 7: Do you know why we're here?

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Speaker 13: I know that they told me that he had some

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kind of burned behind.

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Speaker 7: So when was the last time you were at those around?

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Speaker 4: Telling me.

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Speaker 17: I left around.

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Speaker 10: Thirty okay, okay, and right now you're not in trouble.

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You're not under arrest. I'm just seeing what you know,

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what happened. Okay, we heard there was a little stuff up.

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Speaker 13: Okay, I left, but.

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Speaker 12: And I realized that it was my hair appointment.

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Speaker 14: Obviously I had to give one take me you dron't

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have money.

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Speaker 13: And I walked over to him and I woke him up.

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Speaker 12: But I could tell he was a little drunk, so

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I got.

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Speaker 7: I was upset.

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Speaker 14: Obviously that's fine, but he kept saying, like I can

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I'm drunk, can't take the car, and I like, I

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can't take it, and he just keeps telling me that.

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I started yelling at him to find because obviously that's

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like a start thing.

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Speaker 12: You know, he drinking.

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Speaker 7: He breaks my heart, totally stop. I totally understand.

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Speaker 1: Conrad was too drunk to drive Megan to her hair appointment,

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so she got mad. But this wasn't just danny hair appointment.

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This was Megan's eighteenth birthday and she had big plans

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to party with her girlfriends at a hotel and now

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her stupid father was drunk again and he was screwing

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it up like he did everything.

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Speaker 13: I just kind of got mad.

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Speaker 14: And I'm like all I threw in him was a

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vagabriad and I know that didn't hurt him because it's

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a vagabrit.

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Speaker 1: As mad as she was. Megan swore that all she

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threw at Conrad was a bag of bread. That's it.

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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna be honest with you. Your dad's in bad shape.

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So there's there's a lot of burning on your dad, Okay,

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consistent with what come on? Hot right? You said you

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were fighting with your dad.

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Speaker 10: That's fine, you know, I totally understand if he's drinking,

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that's absolutely not how he should be running his household.

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Totally understand that, you know, but it's just not it's

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not I'm not understanding. Did he is this self inflicted?

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Like if you I mean, make sure put you and

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you own my shoes. You two are the only people

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in that house and you leave it two o'clock and

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he's perfectly fine, right and all of a sudden, you

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know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: So how did he get these? You know?

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Speaker 9: I mean he had stuff over there. You have pats

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and dogs over all the time.

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Speaker 13: It could have been I don't know.

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Speaker 14: If I knew that there was temples over there, I

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Speaker 1: The a Mirrowitz house was a mess, a complete pig

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sty Alcoholism isn't just deadly, it's gross. Maybe one of

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their many cats accidentally knocked something on him. Well, he

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was passed out on the couch. Megan said she didn't

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throw anything harmful at her father.

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Speaker 13: Maybe think like I do.

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Speaker 1: But when the police searched the Mirrowitz home they found

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what had burned Conrad so badly. Lie, Yes, Lie, we

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all saw that movie Fight Club right. The alkali chemical

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is found in everything from soap to silver polish and

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drain cleaner. Depending on its form, Lie, can be very dangerous.

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The entire couch was covered in the white powdery substance,

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and the bottle of drain cleaner had been left on

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the cushion. There was no bread to be found. By

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the way, the whole story was messy, and the only

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two witnesses were not very credible. The man who was

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so intoxicated he blew nearly four times the legal limit,

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and a hormonally fueled teenager late for her birthday party

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who was kind of the main suspect. It was going

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to take a lot of digging to find out exactly

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what happened, but luckily for the police, others had shown

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up at the house after Conrad had been burned. Sixty

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four year old Conrad and Merowitz had ended up in

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the hospital after waking up on his couch covered in

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chemical burns. He was drunk when he showed up at

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the er and confused as to what had happened, but

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as he sobered up, he remembered a fight with his

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teenage daughter Megan, and that she threw stuff at him

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as she left the house on the day he was burned.

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It was determined that Conrad had been burned with LYE,

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which contains sodium hydroxide when in its pure powder form,

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which is what it was when it was thrown at Conrad.

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Lie burns are extremely painful and severe. It was no

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different with Conrad. He had been dowsed in lye while

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he was sleeping on the couch, and by the time

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he was found his skin was peeling off. In fact,

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it was a friend and neighbor of Megan's named Kayla

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Basquet who first found Conrad that day. Kayla was also

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planning to go to Megan's hotel party later that afternoon

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when she received a strange message from her friend on Snapchat.

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Megan sent Kayla a photo of herself crying.

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Speaker 7: So he said, she got.

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Speaker 13: A photo of her crime.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, and then you talked to her that yeah, okay.

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Speaker 13: How did you.

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Speaker 7: Converse with her?

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Speaker 9: I said that you know what's wrong?

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Speaker 13: Well, let me ask you.

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Speaker 7: Did you send her a message?

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Speaker 17: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I tested her on snapshot.

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Speaker 7: Okay, and you said what's wrong?

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Speaker 13: Yes?

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Speaker 7: And then she said that.

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Speaker 16: She said that her jah got drunk and she he

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didn't care because she had stuff to do today and

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she threw.

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Speaker 14: Stuff at him.

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Speaker 7: Okay. Do you know what was special about that day?

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Speaker 9: It was her birthday?

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Speaker 17: Okay.

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Speaker 7: She was like a party that night, is that right?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: All right, So she was crying when she in that photo.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Did she contact you again?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 13: When was that?

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Speaker 9: A few hours later?

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Speaker 17: She asked me to drive her to her party over

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the hotel.

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Speaker 1: But Kayla didn't pick up Megan for the hotel party.

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She got a ride with someone else. But Megan did

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call Kayla later again that afternoon.

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Speaker 7: And you were talked around the sunny Yes.

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Speaker 17: How did she seem?

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Speaker 9: I don't know, just normal?

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Speaker 7: Okay. She wasn't crying there, no, all right? So this

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was three forty seven walks over first Yes, what did

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she ask.

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Speaker 4: You to do?

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Speaker 16: She asked me to go over to the house and

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get the credit card information from her.

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Speaker 9: Dad because it wasn't working when she was at the hotel.

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Speaker 1: Kayla was familiar with the amir Wake's house. She lived

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only a two minute drive away, so she said she

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would stop by to get the card information from Conrad.

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Speaker 6: And you said you've noticed family for a while, right, Yeah,

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even over the house n eighty times. Yeah, the house

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was pretty messy, wasn't it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, in fact, it was.

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Speaker 6: Let's uscriv it is dirty, yeah, and gross.

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Speaker 1: Dirty and gross is a bit of an understatement. Conrad's

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house was a wreck, a sliver away from a garbage dump.

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Here's Conrad's ex wife and Megan's mother, Julie, describing the house.

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Speaker 12: A lot of trash. You could not walk into the kitchen.

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There was trash bags, ye, various trash all over.

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Speaker 13: It's the couch.

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Speaker 12: There's just a little like one foot wide trail to

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the couch.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say that Conrad sat and drank on his

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leather couch all day every day. He didn't clean very much,

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he didn't cook very much. He just he just sat

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there and drank. He often drank so much that he

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would relieve himself in plastic bags instead of getting up

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to use the bathroom. Yeah, it was that bad. These

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bags were often strewn around the living room. What a picture, huh.

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Speaker 12: The bathroom, it needed a good clean. And the downstairs,

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the lower levels, the bi level, the basement, not a

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lot with cat urine pieces. The lower level bathroom. I

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gagged and as a was fall all the theses brutal.

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Speaker 1: So the house was utter squalor. But Kayla arrived and

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let herself inside like she usually did. She walked up

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the stairs and found Conrad in the living room.

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Speaker 7: Can you tell us about how he was on the couch?

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Speaker 9: He was kind of leaned.

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Speaker 16: I don't remember which way he was leaned, but he

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had like one leg crossed over the other. He wasn't clothed,

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but there was a blanket across his torso.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, all right. When you got up the stairs,

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you saw him on the couch.

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Speaker 17: How did he look? I he looked very bad. He

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looks very out of it.

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Speaker 16: He had I didn't know what it was at the time,

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but it was like burns or blood or bruises or

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something on him. It looked like it was on his head,

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on his chest, on his hands, on his stomach.

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Speaker 9: His legs were very green.

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Speaker 7: Okay, it green?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: How did that make you feel? When you saw in

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that way?

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Speaker 9: Very ill?

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Speaker 16: I started to panic because I had never seen anyone

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in a state like that before.

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Speaker 7: Did you know what happened at that point?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Okay, did you say anything to him? But he saw

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in that way?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? I said, what's wrong?

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Speaker 16: And then he told me his hand hurt, and then

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that's when he reached it out said all five of

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his fingertips were the red purple color, and his fingernails.

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Speaker 9: I curled up.

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Speaker 1: Kayla was in shock. She'd never seen an adult man

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that injured and vulnerable before. As she helped Conrad look

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for his cell phone, her own phone started ringing.

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Speaker 9: And then I got a call from Megan.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so making call to you at this point?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: All right? How long had an instance you talked to her?

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Speaker 9: Last?

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Speaker 16: So maybe ten or twenty minutes. It was like the

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last time was when I was about to leave my house. Yeah,

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she asked me for the credit card number because it's

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like that's what she wanted, and so he started saying

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the credit card numbers, and she said that they weren't working,

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and then she hung up.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so had you been able to speak through it all?

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Speaker 11: Really?

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Speaker 9: Not really?

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Speaker 7: Okay, so you weren't able to tell her what happened

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to her dad at not really.

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Speaker 17: I didn't know what to say at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Kayla was panicking, so she excused herself and went out

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into the front lawn to call her mom for help.

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That's when Megan called again.

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Speaker 17: I said, Meghan, something's wrong with your dad?

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Speaker 7: And what did she say?

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Speaker 9: She says, oh, he used to just drunk.

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Speaker 6: And then last she laughed, yeah, Okay, did you tell

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her anything else?

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Speaker 9: I was like, no, something is wrong. And then what

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she told me? To call Austin? She said, Paul Austin, Yeah,

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who was awesome? Her brother?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Austin and Merrill. Wicks picked up his phone promptly,

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and unlike Meghan, he was actually concerned when Cayla told

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him what was going on with his phone. He got

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a ride over to the house from his friend and

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asked Kayla to call nine one one.

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Speaker 3: I thought that maybe he had just had an injury,

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or maybe had fallen or something like that. I wasn't

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expecting to see what I had seen.

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Speaker 1: When I got there, Kayla and Austin went to the

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hospital behind the ambulance. Meanwhile, Megan was still at the hotel,

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struggling to pay for her party room. She kept calling Austin.

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Speaker 6: So while you're at the hospital, you talked to Megan

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on the phone.

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Speaker 7: Yep, do you recall who called who?

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Speaker 9: She had called me? Okay, she called you? What did

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she say she called?

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Speaker 3: She had called me and it had gone that she

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was asking about to find new Dad's pain or whatever.

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Speaker 9: I told her, no, why because he's at the hospital.

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And that's when she was like, oh, and I just hung.

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Speaker 13: Off and that was it.

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Speaker 1: Megan was frustrated. She needed Daddy's card to work, God

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damn it. So she tried calling Kayla again.

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Speaker 17: And I told her we were at the hospital and

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she hung up on me.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a little pause here. How much

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do you hate Megan right now? Are you just seething

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with rage at this entitled little brat or do you

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have any kind of glimmer of sympathy at all? After all,

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Megan was living in filth and chaos with an alcoholic father,

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and there is nothing easy about that. But to hear

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your dad is greatly injured in the hospital and have

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this kind of reaction. It's kind of despicable. No, and

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what about the bread story? Are you buying it? You

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got a lot of breadline around the house and little

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individual baggies. The house was a total mess, and Conrad

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blew a point three when he arrived at the emergency room.

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It is possible, I guess that he accidentally knocked over

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the lie onto himself. It's not likely, but I mean,

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anything's possible. You also have to know that Megan and

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Conrad's relationship was complicated when they were married. Conrad and

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Julie had a mix of biological and adopted children, Austin

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and Megan. The older two of the four kids were

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adopted and ended up with Conrad after their parents' messy

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divorce and custody battle.

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Speaker 12: The end product was that he had custody of the

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older to Meghan and Austin one percent of the time

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physical custody. I had physical custody of the younger to

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Morgan and Ian one percent of the time. Now the

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children could decide when or even if they wanted to

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see the other parents. It was up to them. With

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one accepts and being new for Christmas Eve, they had

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to be with their dad and sons day they had to.

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Speaker 11: Be with me.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, at the hospital, more family members arrived to check

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in on Conrad, including Julie, who pressed him to find

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out what had happened.

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Speaker 12: He just SPT, I don't know. I don't know, and

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he said he actually showed me many of his friends

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and I was feeding up ice chips.

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Speaker 1: Conrad's condition worsened over the next twenty four hours, and

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he was soon taken to a new hospital to further

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treat his injuries. While Conrad was being transported, the police

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found Megan at the hotel. First, she gave the whole

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bread story. We know that one. It's a riot, but

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then the lines started to change.

481
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Speaker 7: Really, does you remember what it was that you were

482
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Do you remember?

483
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:57,759
Speaker 18: Do you not remember?

484
00:28:59,480 --> 00:28:59,799
Speaker 1: Remember?

485
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 10: Okay?

486
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 7: Is it possible that you do do some other things

487
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,079
with typing road?

488
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,839
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know.

489
00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 7: Okay.

490
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,359
Speaker 13: So there was this this canister.

491
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: Stuffs called lie Okay, so.

492
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: It looks like it could have been throwing over his

493
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:17,839
head and it landed over Okay.

494
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:19,119
Speaker 11: Is there any reason why.

495
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,079
Speaker 8: You're finger printing beyond that?

496
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 15: I mean, that's my job Okay, well.

497
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: You remember throwing anything at him that caused like this

498
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:34,400
white power of laying on not intentionally try we're going

499
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about this landing.

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Speaker 13: I don't think so.

501
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Speaker 7: I mean it was like way where what.

502
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,759
Speaker 16: Kind of like.

503
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,799
Speaker 10: Probably like water.

504
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 12: I don't like.

505
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 7: A water bottel or water.

506
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,279
Speaker 19: It was at the bottle.

507
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: When lie is mixed with water, it creates an extremely

508
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:08,559
potent exothermic reaction. In other words, it fucking burns like

509
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:13,960
a motherfucker. You don't want to experience it. Just take

510
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:18,960
my word for it. Weirdo. It burns your skin right off.

511
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,079
So if you're into that sort of thing, hey, knock

512
00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:27,640
yourself out. Start with your face. Anyway. Megan admitted that

513
00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:31,160
she got mad and just started throwing a bunch of stuff,

514
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,559
but she wasn't sure what she was throwing. She was

515
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:40,200
in that kind of possessed teenage girl rage, the kind

516
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,599
that cancels people for posting a meme when.

517
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Speaker 10: You were throwing stuff, right, you're unintentionally throwing, so I'm

518
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,920
not you know, I understand, it's totally get it.

519
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 7: They're right, that's fine when you threw anything. Because we

520
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:54,920
need to help out here.

521
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 10: They're trying to figure out what's going on, because, like

522
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,359
I said, he's in a rough shape day. Was there

523
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,720
any substance that blew out of something when you threw

524
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:04,359
something at them or anything?

525
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 7: We're trying to help your dad out here, I think

526
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:08,599
so yeah.

527
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: Okay, So where on the body did you see that

528
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white stuff.

529
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:15,839
Speaker 15: Who mostly went on the couch a little like on

530
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his like lower legs.

531
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Speaker 4: Okay, mostly covered with the blanket?

532
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 7: Okay, you know what that I was?

533
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 13: It looks like like teather something.

534
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: And there it was a confession.

535
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 7: I mean, we're both for both smart individuals.

536
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,039
Speaker 13: I didn't think like a powder alone can do that.

537
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 7: Well, you said you threw water to right, you see

538
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,680
how the water.

539
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:45,079
Speaker 13: And the drain open next.

540
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 10: Okay, so you know at this point, I'm gonna have

541
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:52,799
you turn around on her arrest.

542
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, so.

543
00:31:55,759 --> 00:32:01,799
Speaker 10: Turn around place. Okay, we'll try not to make it speak. See,

544
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,319
I always want you what's going on?

545
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: Right?

546
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:06,079
Speaker 13: You're a bad person?

547
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 7: But yea.

548
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:18,519
Speaker 1: So they're in the parking lot of her own eighteenth

549
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:23,400
birthday party. Megan was arrested. After a week in jail,

550
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:27,119
she sent this video to a friend, who later shared

551
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,759
it with police.

552
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:35,599
Speaker 13: Really, so here see.

553
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,319
Speaker 4: And everyone saying everyone who.

554
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 16: Was there, because what and they.

555
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 11: Didn't know what happened? Did know?

556
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 9: So?

557
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:58,519
Speaker 11: Received?

558
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 12: So why?

559
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,759
Speaker 1: Megan went on about how now she has to live

560
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:18,000
with her mom and at least she can be the

561
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:25,839
girl she's destined to be a teenagers. What a pain

562
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:44,559
in the ass right the whole school everyone, But everything

563
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,160
would not turn out so good. Conrad was soon transported

564
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,599
from one hospital to a burn unit specialist at another hospital.

565
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:58,000
He spent one hundred and fifty one days in that

566
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,799
burn unit, being treated for wounds on forty one percent

567
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,400
of his body. He was put on dialysis because his

568
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:12,079
kidneys were shot. His burns became infected over and over again,

569
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,360
to the point where both of his legs had to

570
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:22,119
be amputated. He had a tracheotomy. Then, after five months,

571
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:24,480
he decided he wanted to be taken off life support

572
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:31,039
and go home on hospice. Conrad only made it three days.

573
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,800
He died in March of twenty twenty two, and everything

574
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,599
changed all of a sudden. Megan was not just a

575
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:44,360
little brat who may or may not have burned her

576
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,239
father in a hissy fit. She would soon be on

577
00:34:48,440 --> 00:35:27,519
trial for his death. When Conrad Amerowicks was taken to

578
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:31,440
the emergency room for severe chemical burns caused by a

579
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,280
bottle of lye. No one expected that his teenage daughter,

580
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,400
Megan would be responsible. It was Megan's eighteenth birthday and

581
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,519
she had a hair appointment before her party, but when

582
00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:47,280
Conrad got too drunk to drive her to the salon,

583
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:51,360
she had a fit and threw a bottle of lye

584
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,760
at her father. Conrad's injuries got worse over the course

585
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,320
of five months in the hospital, and then he died.

586
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,679
Megan was now facing murder charges. The Ameerick's family had

587
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:11,960
become even more broken than they already were. Conrad's eldest son, Austin,

588
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:16,760
became super protective of his father before he died, not

589
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,760
allowing his mother to visit Conrad in the hospital.

590
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Speaker 12: And I ended up calling Austin, and he told me

591
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:29,519
that a plan was put in place where no one

592
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:34,559
could come up there except for himself and one other

593
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:39,119
and you had to have the tast code or the

594
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:45,159
tast words in order to get any information or to visit.

595
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,719
And he told me I'd better not ever try to

596
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,239
go around that he was I know you're good at

597
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,599
talking your way into things, and not to ever come

598
00:36:56,679 --> 00:36:59,480
up there or do anything, or you're done for.

599
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: At first, Megan was looking at murder charges, but the

600
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,400
prosecution put it down to domestic violence and the unlawful

601
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,840
possession of harmful devices or irritants causing death. The state

602
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,320
had a tough case to prove. No one saw Megan

603
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,400
throw the lie at her father. Her confession was half

604
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,599
baked at best. In June of twenty twenty three, Megan

605
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:30,320
showed up in court to face the consequences of her

606
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,519
alleged actions. She remained quiet beside her lawyers, wearing a

607
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:41,800
paisley blue sun dress and little makeup on her round face.

608
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,599
She didn't smile. She barely opened her mouth as the

609
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,960
prosecution began their opening arguments and the media turned on

610
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their cameras.

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Speaker 6: Criminal cases are always about choices and consequences. A person

612
00:37:57,599 --> 00:37:59,880
will make a choice to do something and the consequences,

613
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,639
and so in our society we hold people accountable for

614
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,840
the choices are the consequences of their choices, and that

615
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,239
is why we are here today. Because on October first,

616
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,119
twenty twenty one, Megan Amroits made a choice to act,

617
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and the action left the death of her father Conrad

618
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,400
of MROs.

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Speaker 7: Megan turned eighteen on September.

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Speaker 6: Twenty ninth, twenty twenty one.

621
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Speaker 7: She was supposed to have a birthday party on the

622
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night of October first.

623
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Speaker 11: Twenty twenty one.

624
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Speaker 6: She'd also made a hair appointment that day, so she

625
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:27,519
was going to go go and get her hair done

626
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:30,119
and then go to his birthday party. So she woke

627
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:32,800
up at home on October first, at the home she

628
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,840
shares with her father, Conrad, and that was in Ortonville,

629
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,000
Michigan pre in Open County. Now, Megan does not drive,

630
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,360
so she needed Covondrad to take her to the hair appointment.

631
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So she goes to get it and she finds what

632
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:47,239
do I think you're gonna hear as a familiar site,

633
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,280
which is that Conrad, even at ten o'clock in the

634
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,119
morning or so, was drunk, and he was actually so

635
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:53,559
drunk key was effectively passed out.

636
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 7: And this made her enriched.

637
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:00,519
Speaker 1: Megan scowled and hung her head as the price Secutor

638
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,719
Jason DeSantis continued telling the jury her story, and she.

639
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 6: Starts throwing things at him, just everything that's lying around,

640
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,840
and you're gonna see in the photos there was a

641
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,639
lot of stuff lying around. But one of the things

642
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:16,920
that you're going to find out that she admitted if

643
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,400
throwing at him was water. And another thing that she's

644
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,800
going to admit to throwing at him is you're going

645
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,320
to see on a police interview video is a white

646
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,039
powder cleaning in patients that she's going to say got

647
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:30,039
you know, miss gotting around his legs.

648
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:33,079
Speaker 7: The product, of course, would lie.

649
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:36,679
Speaker 6: And I think you're going to find that statement that

650
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,800
there was a little bit of white powder was probably

651
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,199
an understatement that she made have to herself because it

652
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:44,960
was not just a.

653
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 7: Little bit of white powder.

654
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 6: Live of course is a common product. It's an alkali

655
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,239
be using tons of things soaked fertilizer, but.

656
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:54,599
Speaker 7: It's also a household cema.

657
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 6: It's available at pretty much any store by the ASR ware,

658
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,280
and she used very commonly for drive people for dream cleaning.

659
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,159
Speaker 7: It is dangerous to humans.

660
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,559
Speaker 6: So she puts this on him and it gets everywhere,

661
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,679
and it's all over his skin because unfortunately Conrad was

662
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,679
asleep on the couch and he was effectively naked at

663
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,719
the time, so all this got in direct contact with

664
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,559
his skin. Now Megan has a trend and to come

665
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:18,679
and pick her up and she leaves to go to

666
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,320
her hair appointment. Conrad is still passed out, so this

667
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,920
stuff is just sitting on him.

668
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 7: Eating away of his flesh. For a very long time.

669
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Speaker 1: The state was very strategic in its charges. They wanted

670
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:38,639
to hold Megan responsible for her father's death. But this

671
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:44,280
wasn't an intentional murder. This wasn't even a crime of passion.

672
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:50,679
In fact, they couldn't even use the word murder or manslaughter.

673
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:52,679
Speaker 6: So the elements of the offense of the things I

674
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,480
have to prove, so are the only things I have

675
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:57,039
to prove. Now, you probably heard of words like motives.

676
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,880
I don't have to prove motives. I think we will,

677
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:01,960
but I don't think I have to. What I do

678
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,280
have to prove is that honor about October first, twenty

679
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,840
twenty one in Open County, Michigan, that the defindant place

680
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,559
used or released a substance, that that substance then was

681
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,280
that she possess, placed, use, or release, was a chemical irritant.

682
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,519
The law defines that as a solid, liquid or gas

683
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,360
that there it's chemical or physical properties, alone or in

684
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,440
combination with one or more other substances, can be used

685
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,079
to produce an irritant. Effect in humans, animals, or plants. Third,

686
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:31,599
that the defendant possessed, place, used, or released the chemical

687
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:36,320
irritant to frighten, terrorize, intimidate, threatened, harass, injure, assault, batter,

688
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:37,920
or kill conrade murrods.

689
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:41,159
Speaker 7: Fourth, the possession in place and re.

690
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,679
Speaker 6: Use or release of the chemical urritent resulted in the

691
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:47,199
death of Conrad Ammerins. You do not have to all

692
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,039
agree upon which intent of the list that you have

693
00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:52,440
there that it is. One of you may think it

694
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,920
was to scarem, one of you may think it was

695
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,159
to hurt him. One of you may think it was

696
00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:57,480
to kill him. You don't have to agree on that part.

697
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,679
A verdict has to be unanicus. But your rationale for

698
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:03,719
getting there here does not. You only throw things at

699
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,320
someone when you want to hit him with it. You

700
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,639
only do that when you're angry. And you only throw

701
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,000
things or put things on people when you want to

702
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:12,400
hurt them or scare them, or do any one of

703
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,599
those things that you want to do, And that's a

704
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:16,639
negative action towards them because you're upset and angry. And

705
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:18,360
I would say this, I think you only put drain

706
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,639
clear on someone when you want to hurt them. So

707
00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:22,039
with the industry, I'll ask you for a verty of

708
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,079
the holds are responsible for her choices, and that will

709
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:24,559
be a vertist of.

710
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 15: Guilty at charge.

711
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: Megan's defense was what you might expect, and it involved

712
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:36,159
a lot of blame on Conrad's problem with alcohol. Apparently

713
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:40,000
alcohol makes you throw things around the room that yourself.

714
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,639
Speaker 20: Now, what happened on that day was tragic, no question,

715
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:45,880
but there's some more facts.

716
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 12: You need to know.

717
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 20: His son when he went to the hospital talk to him.

718
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,480
His statements were, I don't remember what happened, mister andrwith happened.

719
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:04,679
Blood alcohol ever was very high. And his son said,

720
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,239
look what he told me. Him and Meghan had a fight. Okay,

721
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,599
they had a fight. They had an argument, submitted he

722
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:14,639
threw some bread at him in a couple other things.

723
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:20,400
But that doesn't mean that he's through this stuff at him.

724
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:25,480
This is a tragic situation. Throughout all the medical records,

725
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,559
and I think we're going to have meant to medical records,

726
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:35,840
there's and total probably twenty thousand pages. Never once does

727
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,519
he say I remember what happened. Never once does he

728
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:44,239
say Megan did it. Never once does he say or

729
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:49,960
blame anyone for this. Now he went through a horrific experience,

730
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:58,880
but he was also an extreme alcoholic. So this is

731
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,599
a bad situation. You're gonna have to look at all

732
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:06,440
the facts, all the situation, listen to all the testimony,

733
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,320
and make up your mind.

734
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: Megan's trial was long and highly publicized. Her brother Austin

735
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,360
and former friend Kayla both testified for the state, whereas

736
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,440
her mother Julie got up to support her daughter. In fact,

737
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:26,239
Julie was one of the only people who was on

738
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,199
Megan's side. A little bit of that cluster b you know, we.

739
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 21: Don't know what happened that day. There's no few French

740
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:42,199
from the bottle. When I returned with Meghan on the

741
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,880
Wednesday after this happened for her retrieve for stuff, when

742
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,559
we were escorted by a state trooper, the bottle.

743
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,039
Speaker 12: Was sitting on the couch. It was still there. Anyone

744
00:44:57,079 --> 00:45:03,960
could have touched it. While why was a more thorough

745
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:10,360
investigation not done it? These are my questions of how

746
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:16,000
you know the two plus two with all the facts

747
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:22,760
that are known, the actual facts, not the hearsay or

748
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,599
the testimony, but the physical facts. Tuplus two has just

749
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,639
not aboke for.

750
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: This trial wasn't just about whether or not Megan through

751
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:39,719
the lie on her dad, but her behavior afterwards. Both

752
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,559
Austin and Kyla testified after they told Megan and Conrad

753
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,599
was in the hospital, she just huffed and continued to

754
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:51,000
harass them for his credit card pin. All she cared

755
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,440
about was her birthday party. The selfish teenager? Isn't that

756
00:45:56,519 --> 00:46:01,719
a oxymoron? Now, let's do a put yourself in Megan's

757
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,440
shoes for a second. Would you react like this if

758
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,159
you found out that your dad was in the emergency room?

759
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,440
What if he was just a drunk piece of shit? Nah,

760
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,280
that changes things, doesn't it? Or maybe not? Maybe you

761
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,599
drop everything and just rush to go see him. Maybe

762
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:24,159
that's the kind of person you are. What if your

763
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,320
dad hit you? Ooh, I'm not saying that this dad did,

764
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,039
but what if he did? What about then? Would you

765
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:37,960
change your behavior at all? What if he hurt you emotionally?

766
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 12: What?

767
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:46,039
Speaker 1: Now? It's not so black and white sometimes, but it

768
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:50,000
didn't take long for the jury to decide Megan's fate.

769
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 9: May do you have morn?

770
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:53,559
Speaker 19: You can be seated, sous and gentlemen, the jury.

771
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 9: I understand that you haven't heard.

772
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,519
Speaker 13: It is it correct.

773
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,679
Speaker 9: Family, you're my poor person.

774
00:46:58,159 --> 00:46:59,679
Speaker 19: I'm gonna ask that you hand the end holp to

775
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:05,920
my clerknstars. I mean if you could please stand and

776
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:14,960
read the verse to the courtroom.

777
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 9: Guilty of chemical irrisis. Unlawful youth called it this.

778
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: Megan hung her head and clutched her coat to her chest.

779
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:29,039
As the guilty verdict was announced, the state asked to

780
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:33,000
remove her bond, and Megan's lawyer began scrolling through his

781
00:47:33,159 --> 00:47:36,440
phone trying to figure out what dates were best for sentencing.

782
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:42,599
Megan began to sob, and the camera zeroed in on

783
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:48,079
her face, but it just looked like forced tears, like

784
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:52,400
she knew the world was watching, and they sure were.

785
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:56,719
When it came time for sentencing, Megan chose to read

786
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,079
a statement.

787
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,599
Speaker 15: Sometimes in life we are face to trouble those we

788
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:05,880
don't wish for, and most start up for a minute.

789
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:14,519
It's true, yet we face the many ways. Nineteen years

790
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:15,880
ago I was faced.

791
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:19,079
Speaker 13: Into the arms of the first mans ever loved me,

792
00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:24,440
the man are lucky enough to call my dad. Growing up,

793
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:25,840
he became so much more.

794
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 9: He was a storyteller or to a fairy.

795
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:34,119
Speaker 13: A friend and perro. But do it all the one

796
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:39,000
thing that never changed was that he was mine. One

797
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:41,920
of the biggest things overlooked in this case is that

798
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:45,199
me and my siblings lost our dad too. That loss

799
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:49,440
has severely broken us. My little brother was diagnosed with

800
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:53,599
severe depression, and at his age that will probably take

801
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:56,880
over most of his life. He wasn't allowed to say

802
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,239
goodbye to my dad. He's fifteen and not only has

803
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,679
to live with that car at the same time has

804
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,599
to watch and thanks sisters thanks to come home. My

805
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:10,039
little sister is still traumatized from having her car surrounded

806
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,440
and her sister taken away and works the phone until

807
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,599
the police blurted out, our dad has gone. We had

808
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:19,800
no idea. She always kept from saying goodbye, and it's

809
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,159
also struggling as she watches me go through this. My

810
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,679
mom lost him too. Nobody sees that, but that's true.

811
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,880
They were in loved ones. She mothered his kids and

812
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,159
she loves him.

813
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 22: And then there's me.

814
00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 13: It's almost been two years and I have been able

815
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,159
to moorn. I refused to think he's gone because no

816
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,360
part of me can handle me.

817
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: Megan sobbed through her entire statement. It was hard not

818
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,639
to feel a little bit bad for the girl. She was,

819
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,639
after all, a child by law. She was eighteen, but

820
00:49:57,679 --> 00:50:01,119
we all know that doesn't make you mature, not mature

821
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:06,719
enough to understand the real world, the harsh cruelty of it,

822
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:13,039
the fact that things aren't always fair and stay that way,

823
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,000
and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.

824
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:20,719
Megan barely lived in the adult world, and now here

825
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,639
she was in a courtroom, begging a judge to see

826
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,599
how she too lost her father, even if the state

827
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:31,559
did believe it was all her.

828
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 13: Faults, taken every belief of Louvo and happiness to destroyed it.

829
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:40,039
I am the best.

830
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,519
Speaker 22: Parts of him.

831
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 13: I'm his daughter. What would have him? I don't know

832
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,639
who I aim anymore. He was my reason, you know,

833
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,280
every day I battled.

834
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 11: With so far.

835
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 13: When I was younger, I had count the names until

836
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,159
I could live with my dad full time. And when

837
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:01,400
that day finally came, the first time in my life

838
00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:06,159
I could find me exhal. He was my best friend

839
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:09,400
and the person I talked to about boy is the

840
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,199
one who know every single thing about me. And my

841
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,639
favorite person alive is my dad, who's always been the

842
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:20,440
one const in my life. Is that alone, and that

843
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:24,000
created an unbreakable bond maintunas, and no one, not especially

844
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:28,000
mister DeSantis, can take that away from me. I never

845
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:30,679
got to say goodbye, and that the scar I'll never

846
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,559
be able to lose. I get so scared that he

847
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:36,199
thinks I didn't love y because I wasn't allowed to be

848
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,840
there and hold the sands. If all the peason land,

849
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,079
that shouldn't be one of them. Nobody even wants to

850
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,679
talk about him, like we're just supposed.

851
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:46,599
Speaker 6: To have on.

852
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:47,599
Speaker 13: But I can't.

853
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,079
Speaker 1: To close her tearful statement, Megan turned her focus on

854
00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:57,599
the female judge presiding over her case and turned up

855
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,239
the water works.

856
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,639
Speaker 22: Once upon a time, you dreamed of being a judge,

857
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,840
and part of me believes it's because some people deserve

858
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,800
another change. You've accomplished your dream, and I guess now

859
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,840
I'm asking for you to help me accomplishm in a

860
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,440
world full of wrongful judgment. I'm asking going to be

861
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:19,199
the change to believe you.

862
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 13: Need the way my dad did. I'm gonna ask for

863
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:31,119
the lower into my guidelines, but even lower impossible. I'm

864
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,599
not a spread society, but an asset for the future.

865
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: Megan begged for freedom. She needed to finish high school.

866
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,400
She had big dreams of becoming a marine biologist. Don't

867
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,599
all girls dream of that? She was so young. She

868
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,639
made a mistake, and she didn't want to be locked

869
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:59,800
away forever. She didn't want consequences to her action.

870
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 23: Miss Ameriwitz Case number twenty twenty two to eight one

871
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:12,119
five one nine FC harmful devices iritants unlawful possession or

872
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:15,679
use causing death And with regard to this matter, the

873
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:18,440
Court has reviewed the PSI. It has reviewed your compass

874
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,199
score and your prior criminal history. The circumstances that you

875
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:27,639
have endured during your adolescent life are somewhat detailed in

876
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:31,880
the PSR. The report indicates physical abuse and attempted sexual

877
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,800
assault by a friend of a sibling, which was not

878
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:39,159
addressed by your parents. Your adoptive parents separated when you

879
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:42,199
were eight and a half years old. You endured both

880
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,239
physical abuse and While you indicate that you were raised

881
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,000
by both of your parents, the court does recognize that

882
00:53:50,039 --> 00:53:53,280
your father was a severe alcoholic. His disease could not

883
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,079
make him a fit parent, and he always puts you

884
00:53:57,159 --> 00:54:00,159
in harm's way. Your childhoods would aligned with abuse. The

885
00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:03,639
inability to grow mentally as a child Your only criminal

886
00:54:03,679 --> 00:54:06,639
history was driving offense that your father was unable to

887
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:11,320
drive you. The PSI indicates that he would pick you

888
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,079
up all intoxicated and that you had to quit your

889
00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:16,960
job to care for your father. Your father described you

890
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,159
as an angel, making it clear that you do not

891
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,119
have malice. It is clear that your father's addiction and

892
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:26,400
the denial of his addiction alienated his family. Your parents

893
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,239
divorced when you were approximately eight and a half years old.

894
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:33,800
Your younger siblings could not endure visiting your father anymore.

895
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 3: Father.

896
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 23: Your younger sister testified that the last time that she

897
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,320
was at the house, she shared a bathroom with your father,

898
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,599
and that there was vomit in the shower, in the sink,

899
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:46,280
and toilet paper all over the bathroom. The first responders

900
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,599
could not attend to your father because of the filth

901
00:54:48,639 --> 00:54:51,639
inside the house, that it was not fit for habitation.

902
00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:55,719
Garbage bagged and unbagged garbage filled the home. The home

903
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,840
was infested with visible fleas and bugs, and the PSI

904
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,760
describes plastic bas eggs filled with urine near the couch.

905
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,440
Your mother testified about human feces around the couch as well.

906
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,199
Your mother, your younger siblings and your other older brother

907
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,480
all left the home, leaving you with the daunting task

908
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:16,760
of caring for your father. The denial of the disease

909
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,159
from your father and your brother's believed that your father

910
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,199
was not an alcoholic weight on your shoulders. You did

911
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:24,039
not have the luxury of being a child, as you

912
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:27,039
indicated that you had to be an adult in the house.

913
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,960
This is a serious crime that you have been found

914
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,119
guilty of. The Court does not believe that a child

915
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:36,840
your age new or understood the consequences of throwing the

916
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,760
items at your father or the damage that it would

917
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,320
cause him. At the time of the incident, you were

918
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,039
barely eighteen years old. You were three days past your birthday.

919
00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:48,440
It is clear that your brain is not developed. The

920
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:51,199
United States Supreme Court, in Roper versus Simon in two

921
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:55,000
thousand and five case recognize that juveniles have less culpability

922
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:57,679
and are less deserving of the harshest punishment due to

923
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,840
the inherent immaturity and vulnerability. The Court recognizes that you

924
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,519
have indicated that you have professional goals of becoming a

925
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:08,559
marine biologist and that you plan to open a rescue

926
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:11,719
from marine life after completion of high school and college,

927
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:13,679
and that you would like to start a charity to

928
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,960
help recovering alcoholics. Regards to this matter, the court is

929
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,079
going to sentence you to one year in jail with

930
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,320
five hundred and six States credit.

931
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: That was it. One year in jail. She spent longer

932
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,320
in jail waiting for trial than she did for her

933
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:39,000
actual punishment. What's that old saying slap on the wrist, Well,

934
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:44,000
Megan barely got touched on the rest. She barely got

935
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,320
a tap. She sure was lucky with the sympathetic judge

936
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,320
there wasn't she. I wonder if she'd be just as

937
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,840
sympathetic if she was a seven foot, two hundred and

938
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,800
fifty pound black man. Makes you wonder. Not everything's fair

939
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,559
Sometimes it just stays that way.

940
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:08,039
Speaker 23: I want you to understand that with regard to this opportunity,

941
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:11,599
that if you are not successful with regard to probation,

942
00:57:12,039 --> 00:57:15,679
the prison term of five to twenty five years is

943
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:16,480
on the table.

944
00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:21,039
Speaker 1: Megan served her year in jail and didn't waste a

945
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:24,440
moment of it. In fact, she became good friends with

946
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,480
Jennifer Crumbly, and the media went crazy. For those of

947
00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:32,320
you who don't know Jennifer Crumbly, is the mother of

948
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:37,599
Ethan Crumbly, the Oxford High school shooter who murdered four

949
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:41,559
students and injured seven while on a rampage in November

950
00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:45,880
of twenty twenty one. Ethan's mother, Jennifer, was charged with

951
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:50,719
involuntary manslaughter for purchasing the handgun that her son used

952
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,440
to kill his classmates. Anyway, Megan and Jennifer really hit

953
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,199
it off in the Slammer. Not sure why, but they

954
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,519
just did. Here's Megan.

955
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 18: I had no idea who she was when I first

956
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:09,199
got there, but she had sent down a little care

957
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,119
package for me, and that was the first time she's

958
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ever done anything like that, so I thought it was

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really kind of her. Well, when I moved in with her,

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we were, you know, together twenty three hours a day,

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and when I moved out every day for my hour,

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I would just stand at her door and talk to

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her and we talked through the event, like when I

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was in my phone. We would yell and talk to

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each other like that, and we'd always find a way

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to talk to each other every single day.

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Speaker 1: In all the interviews she did, whether it was on

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some YouTube channel or some major news network, Megan said

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the same thing. She only threw bread at her dad.

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She was innocent. All that stuff she told cops, she

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was just she was coerced.

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Speaker 9: I was really scared.

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Speaker 18: I had thought that my dad had hurt himself again,

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and I didn't want him to get in trouble for anything,

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because they would have taken him away, put him in

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a mental hospital. And I was just really freaked out.

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I didn't know I could stop talking.

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Speaker 13: I didn't know that I didn't have to talk to them.

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I was I just wanted to get over with do

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what they wanted me to do.

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Speaker 1: Megan also thinks maybe her dad put the lie on

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himself as a suicide attempt. Weird way to commit suicide,

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but drunks have done weirder things, you know.

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Speaker 18: Part of me thinks that he could have done it

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to himself. I know that he has always been released suicidal,

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but he also does get hurt a lot on accident,

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sometimes on purpose, and that's where most of his hospital

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visits come from. Is us finding him hurt and he

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has to go to the hospital. So I guess that's

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one of my theories. I know my truth, and I

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know what happened, and so does my dad, and that's

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what matters.

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Speaker 1: Megan knows her truth, but we will never know the truth.

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There were no witnesses, but a part of me thinks

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Megan did throw the lie. I think she knows deep

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down that she did. I don't think she really expected

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it to burn him that badly, and I don't think

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she expected it to lead to his death. But she

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threw it, and she knows she threw it. That part

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I'm pretty sure about could be wrong, and it's just

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my opinion, but that's how I see it. Be curious

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to hear how you see it. Leave a comment sortinscale

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dot com. Megan was frustrated. She was angry. I mean,

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why wouldn't she be. She was living with a bumbling

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drunk in a filthy, disgusting house. She must have finally

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just snapped. She didn't deserve to live like this. She

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didn't deserve to have this be her life. She didn't

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deserve this drunk in her life. But there he was,

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ruining her eighteenth birthday party. I don't blame her for that. Actually,

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I blame her mother for allowing Megan to live in

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such squalor with someone she knew had a severe alcohol problem.

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Julie's kind of a shitty mother, and Megan didn't really

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deserve that either. This whole family could have been saved

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if they had just attended a couple of meetings.

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Speaker 12: I still think about it a lot.

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Speaker 18: I know that now I have to listen.

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Speaker 11: To my dad.

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Speaker 1: As the judge said, Megan A. Merriwick's was just a

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kid when she lost her father because of her unhinged actions.

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But Megan was living in a highly stressful situation that

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no kid her age should have to be in. Taking

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care of a drunk all day, day in and day

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out is just too much for most grown adults to bear,

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let alone a kid. An eighteen year old, she was

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tasked with the impossible and did not understand what a

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burden her father's alcoholism was on her mental well being

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until it was too late. But Megan, believe it or not,

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was lucky. She got a sympathetic judge who looked at

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her horrible upbringing and also felt kind of bad. I

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don't know if a year in jail was enough for

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Megan to really fully understand the consequences of her actions.

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Only she knows if she threw the lie on her

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dad or not, whether she intended to or not, that's

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all something she's got to struggle with for the rest

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of her life. She has to come to terms with

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that somehow in her brain, or maybe it'll just self

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destruct like her father's did. The thought of what she

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may have done intentionally, well, you'd away at her like

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the lie did on her father's skin for eternity, and

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that's probably just about the worst punishment a daughter can have.

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It's amazing how shitty humans can be.

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Speaker 11: Huh.

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Speaker 1: Well, that does it for another episode of Sword and Scale.

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Speaker 11: Uh uh uh uh uh at all too.

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Speaker 9: M