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Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Eying the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today is Troy
Speaker 2: Hutchison from Goisycats dot Com. Now we have Ray with
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Speaker 3: All right, starting off with the obvious one from the weekend.
Speaker 3: I mean, Arizona, how much.
Speaker 2: More can you talk about this silly game? I'm just joking.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, but they lost three to eight.
Speaker 3: It was a good game for until the eighth, you know,
Speaker 3: and then kind of Philip It's opened Phillipark.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel bad for the picture of right because he
Speaker 2: had had a great year and then you know, he's
Speaker 2: the starter and stopper of all. The criticism goes to.
Speaker 4: Their like a Mason White couple as too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, stuff stuff happens.
Speaker 3: And I mean it's in the biggest moments, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, so in front of a lot of people, exactly.
Speaker 4: And you know, one thing I want to point out
Speaker 4: is Summer Hill got injured throughout the season, they brought
Speaker 4: him back and he really didn't look the same. I
Speaker 4: wonder how healthy he actually is and that that played
Speaker 4: a role throughout the season. I think he like banging
Speaker 4: up his knee or something like that. I think it
Speaker 4: was a lower Lake area.
Speaker 3: Keeping it going with some commitments stuff. One that Troy
Speaker 3: hasn't talked about yet, thankfully, Darren Schmidt committed about an
Speaker 3: hour AGO's He from uh Vancouver, Washington, and Adam Gorney
Speaker 3: says that he flipped from Boise State to.
Speaker 2: Come here Vancouver, Washington, one of the prettiest places in
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 4: Was that like legitimate or I've never been there.
Speaker 5: I'm just wondering, fantastic because I've seen Pullman in well,
Speaker 5: you know, on the other side of the Okay, there
Speaker 5: you go, Okay, sure, Pullman, well Pullman, Yeah, I guess okay, spoken,
Speaker 5: It's fine.
Speaker 2: I like Pullman, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3: Never been to Washington, so I wouldn't know. Yeah, when
Speaker 3: we kind of went over. Three star from California, R J.
Speaker 3: Moseley committed the wide receiver. Another one is a three
Speaker 3: star from Texas quarterback Zayer Hiller. I think that's how
Speaker 3: you say his name and do you.
Speaker 2: Do you see Britain. Is he status quo? On the recruits?
Speaker 2: Are they doing better? What do you what do you
Speaker 2: see from that?
Speaker 4: I think well, right now on our website on rivals,
Speaker 4: Hiller is an unranked recruit. There's another recruit tell Us
Speaker 4: that is unranked as well. That could change in terms
Speaker 4: of the recruiting updates, but I think overall, they're they're
Speaker 4: getting the guys they want to. Now, there's some big
Speaker 4: fish out there, like we talked about Jayda and Oneil,
Speaker 4: the four start quarterback that's committed to Oklahoma, some other
Speaker 4: guys that they could potentially flip. So if you get those,
Speaker 4: you're looking at a recruiting class by the time National
Speaker 4: signing Day comes around maybe in the thirty five forty range,
Speaker 4: which would be a very good class for Arizona and
Speaker 4: kind of that that range that right, So.
Speaker 2: And to Don's point, that's where Arizona is in the
Speaker 2: grand scheme of football, right if you get if they
Speaker 2: got to a twenty five ranking, how big would that be?
Speaker 4: I mean Jed got to a nineteen. It's the largest,
Speaker 4: it's the largest class in Arizona history.
Speaker 2: Okay, and he's kind of showed for it right there.
Speaker 2: I mean, really well, and how often does that happen?
Speaker 4: It's maybe once every five years.
Speaker 2: Hey, I know who I am. I'm no Brad Pitt,
Speaker 2: so I'm Steve Rivera. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 2: are who you are, And I think to Don's point,
Speaker 2: that's what he was talking about, and to your point too,
Speaker 2: kind of maybe you're not You're not Dawn and you're
Speaker 2: not Brad Pitt. You're right. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You're not. You're trying to be optimistic to be nineteen
Speaker 2: more often that ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 4: No, No, but I think it can happen. Not And
Speaker 4: I'm not saying consistent nineteen nineteen nine, No, no, okay, give
Speaker 4: me consistent consistent thirty about thirty to forty?
Speaker 2: How often does that happen?
Speaker 4: Mike had it going like that, Mike top top forty?
Speaker 2: How old were you then?
Speaker 4: I know that? But how much how much of the
Speaker 4: recruiting fall off after Mike whins were a bunch a
Speaker 4: bunch and that and that hurt it a lot? Yeah,
Speaker 4: yea yeah, someone came in, Yeah, completely right.
Speaker 2: So you said, could could it continue to happen like
Speaker 2: Mike and Fish every now and again more often.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends on who you have as as a coach.
Speaker 4: I think, because let's say Brennan, they have a great
Speaker 4: year and they have the number thirty, we'll say thirty
Speaker 4: four recruiting class. After everything's said and done the next year,
Speaker 4: you can use that for a moment. Hey, look, we
Speaker 4: have this as an assist, we have rules.
Speaker 2: You know how much I hate recruiting because it's a
Speaker 2: much of crap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm shooting fact.
Speaker 2: That you could have one good year and then it
Speaker 2: falls off because well, now the kids want to play
Speaker 2: and the kids that just came are going to play. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all cyclical, right, So so you're thinking thirty thirty
Speaker 2: two to thirty five is realistic consistently.
Speaker 4: If you're showing progress as a program. Now, if you're
Speaker 4: that four and eight, that isn't going to happen.
Speaker 2: Remember that you're here at theres.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of factors.
Speaker 4: I get that. I'm just saying rich Rod was a
Speaker 4: consistent seven game winner. Yeah, if he how do I
Speaker 4: put this, if he cared about recruiting it as much,
Speaker 4: they would have been in that thirty range.
Speaker 2: No. No, of course, because you know what, he had the
Speaker 2: slogan okay, geez, yeah, it was okay with big, big
Speaker 2: infant deal. I mean, okay, you had a slogan, and
Speaker 2: I think he's a heck of a coach, no great
Speaker 2: excesen that that was the problem with him. He thought
Speaker 2: he was a great coach, and he is, but he
Speaker 2: hoped to mild those kids, that he could get two three,
Speaker 2: four stars into becoming better and.
Speaker 4: The other issues at the time, and he tried to
Speaker 4: change it at the last minute. There he didn't care
Speaker 4: about defense, no care at all about defense. So having
Speaker 4: a bunch of no offense to them, but older dudes
Speaker 4: on your recruiting staff, that on your coaching staff that
Speaker 4: wasn't working at West Virginia as your defensive staff, saying
Speaker 4: well we'll go call it Okage's and every now and
Speaker 4: then you find you find a scooby, right sure, well okay.
Speaker 2: And it was a two star. Yeah, I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: there's there's points when you have to coach them up
Speaker 2: and you did or whatever. But also you have to
Speaker 2: get to be the thirty thirty two to thirty three ring. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know there's that you need that Arizona's not that place.
Speaker 2: I've been here long enough to know that, and I'm
Speaker 2: not catch lightning a bottle a couple of times. Boo.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how recruiting rankings worked when Dictomy was around.
Speaker 2: Well, he was the same guy he was. He was
Speaker 2: a over Coach him or coach him up. Maybe get
Speaker 2: a couple of dudes and play your asses off.
Speaker 4: And an air that's two slided in a nutshell and
Speaker 4: an air that. There was a lot of overlook guys too.
Speaker 4: So you know, if you put those players in now,
Speaker 4: how would they be ranked. You know, I didn't where
Speaker 4: his recruiting classes in that thirty to fifty range.
Speaker 2: Constantly Anthony would know more about that guy. He followed
Speaker 2: it one than me.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, consistent coaching matters, and if you're able
Speaker 4: to show growth. I know a lot of the kids
Speaker 4: Brennan's first year, a lot of high level kids, four
Speaker 4: or five sir kids that were like, oh, we love
Speaker 4: the staff, we liked the university. Okay, but show us
Speaker 4: before we're gonna go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 4: Question, but we're not gonna go.
Speaker 2: It's like the kid I don't ten years ago from
Speaker 2: Florida and you probably know the an't better than me
Speaker 2: when he committed here before Star Fight start, he was
Speaker 2: a quarterback to Florida a couple days later. No, ye
Speaker 2: tell you you're going to go to Arizona. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's kind of the tone that I hear in my mind,
Speaker 2: not in reality, but in my mind, you're going to
Speaker 2: play football Arizona. Hell with you, you're going to go to
Speaker 2: Florida or that. If you have the chance to write now,
Speaker 2: is that. I'm sure that's what you hear.
Speaker 4: You do this for a living, Yes, But I just again,
Speaker 4: it's hard to overlook the fact of the Tetrao McMillon class. Now,
Speaker 4: a lot had to go right. Sure that even when
Speaker 4: Teto Ro mcviellan, if Oregon doesn't make a coaching change,
Speaker 4: he's going to Oregon, He's not coming to Arizona. But
Speaker 4: the fact that they made the coaching change to Dan Lanning,
Speaker 4: the fact that Dan Lanning really had an emphasis on
Speaker 4: the defensive side of the football with the recruits and
Speaker 4: really talking to them when he came in and kind
Speaker 4: of ignored the offensive guys, was the main driving force
Speaker 4: for Arizona land.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was a perfect, perfect, perfect But the rest of
Speaker 4: that recruiting class, even if you didn't have to to
Speaker 4: Roman Villain. Obviously, that's the main piece. A lot of
Speaker 4: really good football players came out of there, a lot
Speaker 4: of NFL dudes, a lot of good football players, a
Speaker 4: lot of high three star, low four sarcus.
Speaker 2: Like I said, do you catch lighting a bottle and boom,
Speaker 2: here you are.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the next recruiting class was very good, and
Speaker 4: we didn't see them develop because once he left they
Speaker 4: all transfer.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and we'll see how good he'll make them
Speaker 2: be or have them be. Okay, keep going, all right,
Speaker 2: your stuff, mind, it's cool. I mean, it's good hearing
Speaker 2: you guys talking to me. You have the fish plate,
Speaker 2: the rice, the.
Speaker 3: Rice, keeping going though. This is this is one that
Speaker 3: kind of caught my eye today. It was reported by
Speaker 3: Javier on the fourteenth, So on Saturday, Sunnyside graduate Audrey Humanez.
Speaker 3: Oh Yeah, yeah, we go into the Senior World Championships
Speaker 3: for wrestling obviously in Croatia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta we've had around before. We'll get around
Speaker 2: later at some pot. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Pretty cool, nineteen years old doing big things.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Where did you go to school, like Columbia or somewhere?
Speaker 2: I can't remember what she was. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 2: he doesn't have it on there. But no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but side always produced tough, tough. I was actually did
Speaker 2: the guys sell his ticket? Yeah, the one hundred thousand,
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars ticket.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, because I tried looking on DraftKings.
Speaker 3: But I haven't pissed because now he's in trouble again.
Speaker 2: And now he's in trouble for yah'd be twenty If
Speaker 2: he didn't sell it, that shame on him.
Speaker 6: And then then yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he said
Speaker 6: he was going to ride it.
Speaker 2: Because it was one hundred and seven. I think the
Speaker 2: last time we.
Speaker 6: Checked it went back up to one hundred and seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sell your ticket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was when it was one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 2: I keep it for a while, then went out to
Speaker 2: sixty five, and no, it's one hundred and seven. It
Speaker 2: was one hundred something. Now it's got to be about
Speaker 2: fifty five minutes.
Speaker 3: It's probably like the like not even letting new cash
Speaker 3: thirteen bucks, you know, yeah.
Speaker 6: It's probably not No, yeah, it's probably like locked right now.
Speaker 4: But if Edmonton it did he for the Pacers or Thunder, Yeah, Thunder. Okay,
Speaker 4: I can see the Thunder winning today and all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, Yeah, then you catch out.
Speaker 3: I would have cashed out. Yeah, of course, Diamondbacks coming
Speaker 3: off a weekend. You went to the game yesterday, got
Speaker 3: two out of three from the Padres, but won the series.
Speaker 3: Next series is going to start tomorrow. It's against the
Speaker 3: Blue Jays. It's gonna be one to look out for.
Speaker 3: A home on the road.
Speaker 2: On the road. Did they play next week?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: Every week, I should say me. Can I finish my si? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 4: So what was your sentence?
Speaker 2: Did they finish next week at home?
Speaker 4: I think I.
Speaker 1: Know.
Speaker 4: They have a stretch coming up with the Rockies, White Sox,
Speaker 4: and Marlins. I mean that's a great stretch. And all
Speaker 4: of a sudden you find yourself in the nod of
Speaker 4: the and then you're not selling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not back till the twenty seventh. Okay, cool, cool,
Speaker 3: keep it going. Oh this was kind of an interesting one. Well,
Speaker 3: I'll start with the big news. Otani's supposed to start
Speaker 3: today against the Padres for the first time in a
Speaker 3: couple of years. I supposed to just go first. Maybe
Speaker 3: an indy well supposed to be an inning, maybe a
Speaker 3: second one against the Padres. It's gonna be an interesting one. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: I think that's playing with fire. So yeah, why do
Speaker 3: they really, like, I know, they're baned up pitching?
Speaker 6: Is that home or they're gonna be playing in it?
Speaker 4: So that's gonna be a crazy But is it worth
Speaker 4: potentially his career, like if he re injures that that shoulder, Yeah,
Speaker 4: is it worth his sitting to test that out?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably not.
Speaker 3: It's tough fun, yeah, I Mean the thing I don't
Speaker 3: what I don't understand, is like I don't understand why
Speaker 3: so many people want him as a starter, like I
Speaker 3: think if he's a closer, like I think that's just
Speaker 3: as cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but can you How do you do that though,
Speaker 4: because you're gonna want him in the lineup every day,
Speaker 4: so you can't come up out of the bullpend.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well I thought they like switched it up
Speaker 3: for him, didn't they?
Speaker 4: Like, you can be like he could be, he could
Speaker 4: pitch him hit, yes, but if you're already in the lineup,
Speaker 4: they can't move you to pitcher because you're already d h.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So maybe I'm I'm wrong on the rules, but I
Speaker 4: don't see how he would be able to because I
Speaker 4: thought of the pen too, Like, how you would be
Speaker 4: able to do that?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 3: No, I mean you probably know more more about baseball
Speaker 3: than me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: But yeah, this is an interesting one too, though.
Speaker 3: His interpreter is yeah, I think he turned himself in,
Speaker 3: like for his prison sentence today in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was another crazy one. Obviously.
Speaker 3: A big story of tonight is going to be the
Speaker 3: Pacers versus the Thunder Game five in Oklahoma City series
Speaker 3: tied the game.
Speaker 2: He lost the series on Saturday Friday? Whatever game?
Speaker 4: Do you think that's it?
Speaker 2: Okay, so he just took it over Indiana should have
Speaker 2: won that game. Yeah, I thought there's every right to
Speaker 2: win the game. Like texted with Chris because you know
Speaker 2: you haven't heard a word from him today, right, Actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's for a reason. If he doesn't win tonight, he's done.
Speaker 4: All I gotta say is the series extender Scott Foster
Speaker 4: was calling that game. Oh, just pointing that out though, Okay,
Speaker 4: the extended, the extended that that nice little push off
Speaker 4: travel that uh s g A had there to take
Speaker 4: the lead.
Speaker 3: A lot of people weren't fans of that one other
Speaker 3: big story of today, Arkansas gage would pitches third no
Speaker 3: hitter in men's collegeables series.
Speaker 2: History, narrow away from being a perfect game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty pretty cool stuff. I mean they they also
Speaker 6: eliminated Murray Murray State with.
Speaker 2: That so now gone Oregon State, Arizona and Murray State Louisville.
Speaker 4: So I don't know what happened in their game.
Speaker 2: Who's the other loose? Just Murray State?
Speaker 6: Yeah, just Murray.
Speaker 2: Okay, bad?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's about it.
Speaker 4: There's some other big stuff, but all right, okay, you
Speaker 4: know who's excited and this kind of just thought about
Speaker 4: this that Arizona is not in it anymore? Kay Johnson?
Speaker 9: Oh, no more questions, So let me ask.
Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody asks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was just gonna say, because well I'll ask.
Speaker 2: Michael Levin comes in to say, Okay, let's go and
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Speaker 1: with Steve Rivera on Fox sportsporteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Thanky in the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: I'm Steve Rivera. Your Troy Hutchison got ready with us.
Speaker 2: Now we have Michael ev from The Daily Star, Michael
Speaker 2: Hiding Good.
Speaker 8: How are you guys?
Speaker 2: We're doing well. Thank you. I don't think you probably
Speaker 2: put the baseball season to bed yet, but uh uh,
Speaker 2: And to maybe cheat on you for today, what were
Speaker 2: your five things from yesterday?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean started off with that eighth inning disaster,
Speaker 7: which was kind of like the un on Friday, right, yeah, right,
Speaker 7: like they just kind of melted down and imploded.
Speaker 8: I also discussed missed.
Speaker 7: Opportunities earlier in the game. I thought they could have
Speaker 7: expanded the lead a couple different times. They didn't take
Speaker 7: advantage of those.
Speaker 2: So couldn't that be said for Friday's game too? Friday's
Speaker 2: game two.
Speaker 7: Of Sure, Yeah, Sir, talked about defense both good and bad,
Speaker 7: talked about Smith Bailey super impressive again, and then just
Speaker 7: kind of a little bit of a look ahead to
Speaker 7: the future and the importance of giving to Pail a
Speaker 7: contract extension and along with that like upping the assistant
Speaker 7: coach school so that Kevin Vance is fairly compensated and
Speaker 7: sticks around, which I mean, you know, they could do
Speaker 7: that and he could still leave because someone could offer
Speaker 7: him more money, or someone could offer him a promotion
Speaker 7: to a head coach position, but they need to do
Speaker 7: everything in their power to keep him on board.
Speaker 8: If they can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Michael going into this postseason summer Hill
Speaker 4: obviously was banned up throughout the year and made his
Speaker 4: way back and kind of just didn't look like his
Speaker 4: normal self throughout the postseason and Big Ball Tournament. I
Speaker 4: think a little bit of that injury kind of played
Speaker 4: played out how its effect on him throughout this whole
Speaker 4: time run for Arizona.
Speaker 7: I do, I really do, And I think it kind
Speaker 7: of maybe got to him mentally a little bit, like
Speaker 7: he just I don't know, he just did not seem.
Speaker 8: Like himself.
Speaker 7: The longer the postseason went on. I mean, he was
Speaker 7: such a destructive force earlier in the year, and when
Speaker 7: he broke his hand in late March, I think it
Speaker 7: was yeah, I think it was late it was late April,
Speaker 7: whatever that was. He was batting over four hundred, like,
Speaker 7: well over four hundred, like he was as dangerous as
Speaker 7: any leadoff hitter in the country.
Speaker 8: And then he came back and then he heard his hamstring.
Speaker 7: I don't know which one is bothering him more, maybe both,
Speaker 7: But he got out of rhythm, he got out of
Speaker 7: sink and just wasn't the same guy. Like and we're
Speaker 7: talking about someone who had a you know, on base
Speaker 7: percentage of around five hundred. But when you know, the
Speaker 7: last game of the year, the most important game of
Speaker 7: the year, goes oh for five. I don't think it
Speaker 7: was for a lack of effort. I just don't think
Speaker 7: that he was feeling like himself physically. And you know,
Speaker 7: confidence can wane in this in this sport especially, and
Speaker 7: sometimes you get into a little bit of a rut
Speaker 7: and it's hard to pull yourself out of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, Michael. A few people saw that this
Speaker 2: team more than you this season, and and me just
Speaker 2: coming on board for the last you know, three four
Speaker 2: weeks whatever. And I've said this, you know, by my
Speaker 2: third person, I said this to Arizona fans must be
Speaker 2: very timid, or you know, when you hit a dog
Speaker 2: and he kind of becomes shy because one didn't score
Speaker 2: enough runs in the last month. And then they to
Speaker 2: me there must have been oh, no, two run needs
Speaker 2: not big enough. It was just kind of like, holy crap,
Speaker 2: how do you have faith in this team when they're
Speaker 2: just going to disappoint you? And over the last couple
Speaker 2: of games there was exactly that.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 7: I think the the oddity of that is that they
Speaker 7: were so good in late inning and one run game
Speaker 7: situations leading up to that point, right. I mean, they
Speaker 7: were undefeated when winning or tied after the sixth inning
Speaker 7: before Friday, and they were undefeated when winning after the
Speaker 7: seventh inning before Sunday. And that's because they generally don't
Speaker 7: make a lot of mistakes in the field, you know.
Speaker 7: And then of course they make two airs and one
Speaker 7: inning on Sundays. They hadn't made two airs in the
Speaker 7: same game since May sixth, Okay, so that gives you
Speaker 7: some idea how good they usually are defensively. And they
Speaker 7: had the stopper of the year back of their bullpen
Speaker 7: and Tony Fluda. And you know, I don't know if
Speaker 7: the heavy workload from the previous weekend impacted him at all.
Speaker 7: I think, you know, both he and Garrett Hicks were
Speaker 7: the victims of some seriously bad luck.
Speaker 8: I mean, that hit that the dudes for.
Speaker 7: Coastal Carolinas on Friday was the word I used, was ridiculous.
Speaker 7: I mean, it was an absolutely I mean credit to him,
Speaker 7: but he hit the ball basically off the ground and
Speaker 7: blooped it right on the line down right field line.
Speaker 7: And then you had another hitter for this in this
Speaker 7: last game for Louisville to do almost the exact same
Speaker 7: thing because Tony plut it landed almost the same spot.
Speaker 7: So sometimes that is just the breaks of the game.
Speaker 7: You know, It's just the way things go in baseball.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I know you tweeted out that you couldn't make the trip,
Speaker 4: but you were still covering the team from home. But
Speaker 4: throughout this whole entire process in the College World Series,
Speaker 4: Steve and I were wondering, did you guys get to
Speaker 4: have that conversation or questions with Jay Johnson about his
Speaker 4: time at Arizona and how that conversation went or did
Speaker 4: anybody or did anyone? I?
Speaker 8: Okay, here's the deal. So I wasn't able to go.
Speaker 7: We had our partners with the Omaha World Herald recovering
Speaker 7: for us out there in Omaha. But they had press
Speaker 7: conferences right for every team, and there were in person
Speaker 7: questions and zoom, and it was like, in person will
Speaker 7: get priority.
Speaker 8: Zoom will if we have time, right, So they got
Speaker 8: a half hour for.
Speaker 7: Each team, and of course participated in Coastal Carolina and
Speaker 7: it lasted maybe fifteen minutes out of the half hour
Speaker 7: I participated.
Speaker 8: In the one for Arizona.
Speaker 7: I was about twenty minutes out of the half hour LSU.
Speaker 7: They took up the whole half hour and I did not,
Speaker 7: and I was unable to get my question in. No
Speaker 7: one there asked him about his time at Arizona. I
Speaker 7: had a question in the holster about the twenty sixteen team,
Speaker 7: you know, And it would have been a great addition
Speaker 7: to that story that I did on that last game,
Speaker 7: and it's a good story without him, it would have
Speaker 7: been a little bit better with him. Just people, a
Speaker 7: few people from the team, just reminiscing about that that
Speaker 7: time and that season. But yeah, no one, no one
Speaker 7: was able to get a question in because there's a
Speaker 7: ton of LSU media there. And if you know Jay Johnson,
Speaker 7: he's loquacious, right, Like he's a talker. He's going to
Speaker 7: get you a lengthy, thorough answer no matter what you
Speaker 7: ask him.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure he's smart enough to know that they
Speaker 2: were gonna come and oh darn, we didn't have enough time.
Speaker 9: Right right.
Speaker 7: I mean, look, it is a situation where I kind
Speaker 7: of I wish I had been there because you know,
Speaker 7: maybe I would have been able to intercept him, you know,
Speaker 7: as he was leaving the press conference or whatever, and
Speaker 7: get a couple questions, and he knows me, he probably
Speaker 7: would have accommodated me.
Speaker 8: But that's how it goes.
Speaker 7: There could be another occasion, you know, where LS went
Speaker 7: Arizona in the same College World Series. I don't think
Speaker 7: that's inconceivable at all. Un Let's you's going to be
Speaker 7: going a lot with Jay down there and all the
Speaker 7: resources they have, and and in Arizona they've gone every
Speaker 7: four times the tournament's been contested since twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Since you've been a regular on the show. The last
Speaker 2: happened a month or so. I talked to you about
Speaker 2: the softball program and you know, you know the season
Speaker 2: and how you rate it disappointing. Okay, so we went
Speaker 2: there and now now here. Scale of one to ten,
Speaker 2: what do you rate it? And was it successful?
Speaker 8: Baseball? Yes, baseball definitely successful.
Speaker 10: Yes.
Speaker 7: Uh, scale of one to ten, I'd say maybe like
Speaker 7: an eight some'wor up there.
Speaker 8: Look, I mean the goal for any program is to
Speaker 8: make it to Omaha.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 7: No, it's satisfied within the program that they only made
Speaker 7: it to Omaha and then went you know, went to
Speaker 7: and out. But you know, when you gather the team
Speaker 7: the first day in August, I mean, that's that's that's
Speaker 7: the north star for everybody.
Speaker 14: Right.
Speaker 8: So they did that, and they progressed.
Speaker 7: And they're gonna, you know, put a bunch of guys
Speaker 7: into MLB organizations again.
Speaker 8: They seemed to be recruiting. Well, I feel like the
Speaker 8: program is in a good place. And you know, I
Speaker 8: don't think I think Frank Chance, it's.
Speaker 7: The only coach who led Arizona to four consecutives NCAA
Speaker 7: tournament appearances in his first four seasons. Obviously, it was
Speaker 7: a different landscape back then. But Chip Hill did that
Speaker 7: and he got into the World Series in his fourth year,
Speaker 7: So that, without question, I would say a very successful
Speaker 7: season for U of a baseball You know.
Speaker 4: I really don't pay attention in terms of the MLB
Speaker 4: prospects and stuff like that. It's kind of harder to
Speaker 4: keep up in terms of like comparison to NBA and
Speaker 4: NFL with the drafting in the middle of the MLB
Speaker 4: season the way it is. But for a guy like
Speaker 4: Mason White, who had this phenomenal postseason run, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of fizzled out there at the end in Omaha,
Speaker 4: but big hit after big hit and being on the
Speaker 4: national stage, how much does that affect or help a
Speaker 4: guy like him because he's going to get drafted. But
Speaker 4: how much can that move you in the draft order
Speaker 4: when you put on a display like he did this postseason?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think for the most part that
Speaker 7: scouts have made their reports and you know, reached their
Speaker 7: conclusions about players by this time of year.
Speaker 8: But you know a lot of times we're talking about,
Speaker 8: like how do we break the tie? You know, like
Speaker 8: we have these guys about even or roughly in the
Speaker 8: same range.
Speaker 7: Maybe you can move yourself up a little bitter, or
Speaker 7: maybe you move down if you don't perform. I had heard,
Speaker 7: you know, when Mason White wasn't doing quite as well,
Speaker 7: that maybe he's going to fall into the fourth or
Speaker 7: fifth round range. I think the way he performed down
Speaker 7: the stretch, cutting down on his strikeouts, showing that he
Speaker 7: can go the other way, still displaying.
Speaker 8: The elite power that we all know he has.
Speaker 7: I think we're talking more third round, maybe even the
Speaker 7: end of the second round for him now. And I
Speaker 7: think that's thanks to his performance in the postseason. I mean,
Speaker 7: m VP of the Big Twelve tournament, MVP of the
Speaker 7: Eugene Regional.
Speaker 8: When the stage is.
Speaker 7: The biggest, the lights are the brightest, usually Mason White
Speaker 7: performs his best.
Speaker 2: What do you think his legacy will be.
Speaker 8: I think it will be great.
Speaker 7: I mean, look, he's he's a third generation Wildcat right
Speaker 7: His dad and grandpa played at Arizona. He's the second
Speaker 7: all time leading home run hitter in program history. He
Speaker 7: I think is tied for the most extra base hits
Speaker 7: in program history.
Speaker 8: He also has the.
Speaker 7: Most strikeouts in program history. So you know, he supposed
Speaker 7: to kind of like his modern approach to hitting and
Speaker 7: when with some of the results of that can be
Speaker 7: and you know, he's he's someone who's he's gonna come
Speaker 7: back here in the off season to work out. He'll
Speaker 7: be around the program. He loves Arizona. It's all he
Speaker 7: ever wanted to do since he was a little kid,
Speaker 7: was to play for the Arizona Wildcats, and he got
Speaker 7: to do that.
Speaker 8: He fulfills his dream.
Speaker 7: I think he leaves with a with a sterling legacy
Speaker 7: as as one of the all time greats in program history.
Speaker 2: He's like Michael lev going to a bar, you don't
Speaker 2: have to buy a beer.
Speaker 8: So not true.
Speaker 4: As you look at Chip Hill and just that closing
Speaker 4: press conference, you know, do you feel like for him
Speaker 4: there's a sense of relief not only to get to
Speaker 4: the Super Regionals and do what they did, but to
Speaker 4: get the promo the program to Omaha. And I don't
Speaker 4: want to say a monkey office back, but you know
Speaker 4: people were wondering, can can he get to super And
Speaker 4: not only did he do that, but he did get
Speaker 4: them to Omahan.
Speaker 7: I think he did feel a sense of relief when
Speaker 7: they got there, right because remember, like they hadn't even
Speaker 7: gotten out of a regional in the first three years,
Speaker 7: including one that they hosted. And when you're the host,
Speaker 7: I mean you're the favorite, right, you're supposed to win.
Speaker 8: Doesn't always happen. We saw a bunch of upsets this year.
Speaker 7: I think there's there might be a little bit more
Speaker 7: parody in college baseball now as we're seeing in college
Speaker 7: basketball in college football, because everyone has money, right, so
Speaker 7: you can spread the talent out a little bit. But
Speaker 7: it was definitely a hurdle that he needed to get
Speaker 7: over to me to kind of win over the fans
Speaker 7: once and for all, you know, really definitively prove to
Speaker 7: them that he's demand for the job.
Speaker 8: I think no one quept in. You know, Chip Hale's
Speaker 8: bona fides just as a baseball man or as a.
Speaker 7: Man period, Like, he is extremely well liked and well
Speaker 7: respected by players and coaches and colleagues. But you know,
Speaker 7: there were questions about whether he could coach in college
Speaker 7: because there are different elements in play in college.
Speaker 8: Than in professional baseball, most.
Speaker 7: Mostly recruiting, right, Like, could this guy who's in his
Speaker 7: mid fifties get out there and recruit? And he did
Speaker 7: a good job of hiring the right people to surround him.
Speaker 7: And I think they've actually recruited better than people fought.
Speaker 7: They were able to get some elite arms through the
Speaker 7: draft last year, including Smith Bailey who was outstanding as
Speaker 7: a freshman. So those are a lot of positive signs
Speaker 7: for what Chip Hale has done. And to your original point,
Speaker 7: try I do agree. I think it was a sense
Speaker 7: of relief for him when he got past that first
Speaker 7: round and then you know, Cherry on top to win
Speaker 7: the Super Regional two.
Speaker 2: Having covered the team for a long time, Michael, let
Speaker 2: me ask you this, when was the last time you
Speaker 2: wrote like a feature on him? And I asked you
Speaker 2: that because you know, not having dealt with him a
Speaker 2: whole heck of a lot. I think when I he
Speaker 2: was covering doing stuff, I maybe wrote a story or
Speaker 2: two a long time ago that he was kind of
Speaker 2: self effacing in the interviews during the games and kind
Speaker 2: of funny and and just kind of like a normal dude,
Speaker 2: you know, Tommy Tommy, Tommy loydish and that struck me
Speaker 2: as very being very cool, you know, very normal dude
Speaker 2: kind of like, So, have you done a feature on
Speaker 2: him lately? I have not. No.
Speaker 7: The last like really in depth feature I did on
Speaker 7: Chip was going into his first season.
Speaker 2: So the reason I asked is, how would you how
Speaker 2: would you knowing at least maybe my perception is wrong,
Speaker 2: but how would you write that now? Because he is
Speaker 2: just a dude who, to me, who knows baseball, and
Speaker 2: and obviously you just mentioned they love playing for him,
Speaker 2: because you don't get here by accident, you know. To me,
Speaker 2: he was just a dude who loves to coach the
Speaker 2: game and is pretty good at it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it would be it would be an
Speaker 7: interesting thing to do, and maybe I will do that
Speaker 7: going into next season. He I think what stands out
Speaker 7: to me a couple of things. One, I think he's
Speaker 7: learned some things since he became a college coach, like
Speaker 7: how important every game is and you can't really afford
Speaker 7: to take a night off with a shorter season where
Speaker 7: every game impacts your.
Speaker 8: Your metrics, you know.
Speaker 7: And I think he's proved to be a smarter person
Speaker 7: than a lot of people gave him credit without question
Speaker 7: in terms of how in terms of how to put
Speaker 7: together an entire organization.
Speaker 2: And I'm told that he's a very bright dude off
Speaker 2: the baseball field.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I don't doubt it.
Speaker 7: Like I think he I think he had qualified to
Speaker 7: get into the Navy or the Air Force or maybe both,
Speaker 7: or like coming out of high school.
Speaker 8: So yeah, very smart guy. And I think too, like
Speaker 8: I think he's actually well.
Speaker 7: Equipped for this current era because he was in professional baseball,
Speaker 7: you know. I mean it's like it's like free agency now,
Speaker 7: right every off season he is for guys who have
Speaker 7: been coaching college baseball for twenty thirty years. Like that
Speaker 7: was a shock to the system, right, all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: Like I got to re recruit all my players, and
Speaker 7: you know, like I have to redo my roster every year.
Speaker 7: That's like that every year in the pros.
Speaker 8: So I don't think it was nearly as big.
Speaker 2: Of a deal for him, and smart enough, smarter than
Speaker 2: me not to use the word dude. You got a question,
Speaker 2: be no, okay, you got it. We're good to go.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael lev I appreciate you. Will probby find
Speaker 2: you somewhere the summer. Maybe you come in and be
Speaker 2: a co host. I'm getting tired of Troy.
Speaker 8: Oh wow, thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker 7: I will definitely look at my calendar and see if
Speaker 7: I can work that out.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, thank you to join you yeah, thank you, Michael.
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Speaker 1: This is I on the Wall on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 1: Want to take part in the show call out Steve
Speaker 1: now went five to two oh four one six seventy four.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my the ball Here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. M Steve Rivera or Troy Hutcher send
Speaker 2: your ay. Good to talk to Michael lev get the
Speaker 2: scoop on the baseball team. It's funny that no one
Speaker 2: asked to Well, I can understand nobody was there to ask.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, but it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I guess one day we'll find when I write the
Speaker 2: next book.
Speaker 4: And now's a few people don't care.
Speaker 2: No, they know, we're more curious. Yeah, we're more curious.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they know they writing it. Okay, let's go
Speaker 2: back to your ninety seven. Uh and how did we
Speaker 2: start this? Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you said nobody expected them. Yeah, yeah, that far
Speaker 4: and god yeah yeah. Uh but I mean a key
Speaker 4: part of that is Miles Simon's being suspended.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: If he wasn't suspended, what kind of seating they would have?
Speaker 4: What do you think they would have gotten?
Speaker 2: No? Okay, so, so good question. Good question. You're assuming
Speaker 2: all things would have gone better? No, was right because
Speaker 2: he was out for that first semester because of academics.
Speaker 2: I think that that's where they helped win the damn
Speaker 2: thing because one Mike Bibby had to grow up. Michael
Speaker 2: Dickerson had to really grow up and show that what
Speaker 2: he was capable of because he always had it in him, right,
Speaker 2: except that he didn't get the chance because of all
Speaker 2: the dynamics. In fact, he was the year before. He
Speaker 2: was dynamic when they lost to Kansas in the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 2: But so that kind of helped them set up for
Speaker 2: what they went through during the regular season of the
Speaker 2: Pector and they were mediocre at the bat. You know,
Speaker 2: they finished fourth, fifth in the conference eventually ran So
Speaker 2: to your point of what what were you trying to
Speaker 2: go get if.
Speaker 4: He was didn't have those issues he played, Let's say
Speaker 4: they gel. Maybe maybe some things don't gel, is what
Speaker 4: you're saying, But maybe they get four or five more wins,
Speaker 4: maybe the seating goes higher because on paper that like,
Speaker 4: regardless of how that's a talent. You know, I'm sure
Speaker 4: everybody thought that's a talented team going into the season.
Speaker 2: Well you didn't know that until you until the next
Speaker 2: year when they were very talented and nothing. It was
Speaker 2: in the eight I'll give you one more if you
Speaker 2: want to go hypothetical. If you remember going into summer,
Speaker 2: there was a dude that there I used the were
Speaker 2: dude again that would have should have been on the
Speaker 2: roster but didn't make it. Jackson or Steven Jackson. How
Speaker 2: how that would either screwed up the chemistry or made
Speaker 2: him very talented, because you know what I'm saying, sometimes
Speaker 2: addition by subtraction or whatever you were or phrase you
Speaker 2: want to use pieces exactly. So we don't know what
Speaker 2: would have happened had Steven Jackson showed up and qualified
Speaker 2: to be on that team. Uh. And Miles was a
Speaker 2: big factor obviously, but he had a great run. To me,
Speaker 2: the MVP of that whole team was mis Mike Bibi
Speaker 2: because he had a great run too over a longer
Speaker 2: period of time. Miles had that final four n Jason Terry,
Speaker 2: I mean, they're all the Sometimes if you don't you
Speaker 2: believe in baseball gods. I believe in basketball gods. I
Speaker 2: just believe in sports gods. And how old are you
Speaker 2: in ninety seven? Two?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Two? Okay, So you'd have to kind of go through
Speaker 2: it to say I can't believe this is happening, but
Speaker 2: believe it's happening. And in my mind, having covered all
Speaker 2: those teams and written a few books, and I swear
Speaker 2: to this till the day I die. You poove Arizona.
Speaker 2: You tell Arizona they cannot do it. They come through,
Speaker 2: You tell them that they it'll be easy. They poop
Speaker 2: the bed because it happens all the time. Ninety eight
Speaker 2: better team than ninety seven to them, Tell them that
Speaker 2: they're going to bet Utah easy, Oh we got this,
Speaker 2: get their ass kicked. Yeah, I mean so many times
Speaker 2: it happens. I think the apples to apples one was
Speaker 2: in two thousand and one when they lost to Duke
Speaker 2: in the finals. But Arizona was handicapped with Gilbert and
Speaker 2: with Luke, and they didn't They weren't fully we equipped
Speaker 2: the beat Duke. Could they have had that not happened?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 4: But to me is by far of the most talented
Speaker 4: team Arizona is ever, without question, out question nine.
Speaker 2: Whatever you want to say, and I say this publicly,
Speaker 2: that's the best team in the history of Arizona basketball.
Speaker 2: Yeah nine, with eighty eight being probably second to me
Speaker 2: in my mind. Yeah, yeah, no, and that's I think
Speaker 2: that same conversation. And obviously this team didn't win it all,
Speaker 2: but you just look on the run that they went
Speaker 2: on the Derek Williams team and he broke his hand
Speaker 2: and he had to miss a couple of games and
Speaker 2: didn't really have that big of a role.
Speaker 4: Those guys started to step up, they started to gel
Speaker 4: in their roles despite that, right, yeah, yeah, And then
Speaker 4: they went on this great run to the Elite eight.
Speaker 4: Could it probably beat Yukon if one shot goes in there,
Speaker 4: one shot goes in there, who knows what would have happened.
Speaker 4: But do they have that moment with how Derek Williams
Speaker 4: getting hurt and having to gel without.
Speaker 2: You'll never know problem, but I'm sure you enjoy what
Speaker 2: happened with him. Yeah, in ninety seven, there were so
Speaker 2: many things that happened that didn't happen or have you
Speaker 2: know whatever vice person Bibby had to grow up, prediction
Speaker 2: had to grow up without Miles there. And then Miles
Speaker 2: shows up and the dynamic saying that take me off
Speaker 2: the bench or move me to the bench, and I
Speaker 2: have to do that. So the roles and they were
Speaker 2: still mediocre, fourth or fifth in the conference, and they
Speaker 2: just caught fire. I mean, they just did. They wanted
Speaker 2: to me to my point of telling them that you
Speaker 2: can't and they will or whatever. South Alabama they wanted
Speaker 2: there because they were on the verge of losing again
Speaker 2: in the first round until they didn't.
Speaker 4: And then every every game, every game was very close.
Speaker 2: Kansas Sweet sixteen called the Charleston North Carolina, but the
Speaker 2: previous one was in between Providence over time after having
Speaker 2: a big lead, you know, and then North Carolina and
Speaker 2: then of course Kentucky. I mean, things fall into place
Speaker 2: for a reason. You know, you'll meet your your wife
Speaker 2: eventually at some point you didn't imagine and you'll say, Steve, dammit,
Speaker 2: why did I go there?
Speaker 4: I'm not going down that road. But could keep fisher
Speaker 4: that what 'tate blame it.
Speaker 2: Ray bought me that drink, she said next to me.
Speaker 2: The rest of history. But you know, that's just how
Speaker 2: things happened. You just do. Look at football ninety eight.
Speaker 2: Come on a pretty good football team, right and then
Speaker 2: the suspended game it's played later u C l A.
Speaker 2: Miami or whatever it was, and yeah, Ano they're out
Speaker 2: on a flukey type of situation and and a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff happened that year. The leap by the Lake
Speaker 2: and the odds of you completing that player one hundred
Speaker 2: and one million to one. And then the u c
Speaker 2: l A game, Trohn Canada goes down entering the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: and I believe, wasn't it Chris mccalliser was suspended for
Speaker 2: that game. Part of that game to your best players
Speaker 2: are out of that game, you get blown out in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, you'd be u c l A. You don't,
Speaker 2: you don't need that, but you know, things that happened
Speaker 2: are out of your control.
Speaker 10: Right right.
Speaker 2: There was one other one I was going to bring up.
Speaker 2: Just so many, just so many. There's so many in
Speaker 2: Arizona's history in terms of doing more than just expect,
Speaker 2: doing more than you expected, then losing with a pretty
Speaker 2: good darned team. Thatty eight was one of them.
Speaker 4: Well, last again, pretty good darned team and it turned
Speaker 4: out to be no. But last year. The expectations of
Speaker 4: the football program entering the year right ranked in the
Speaker 4: top twenty. Everybody expected you, Yes under Brennan, everybody expected
Speaker 4: you there.
Speaker 2: Okay, so okay, so realistic or not, I'm just saying yes, okay,
Speaker 2: so where did the where did the first misstep happen?
Speaker 4: I think the first like uh oh, this was all
Speaker 4: going to fall apart was when Raymond Palito quit football
Speaker 4: or whatever whatever happened with that, and then J Cory
Speaker 4: Krofsky Merrit had his eligibility.
Speaker 2: Totally and he was I totally agree with.
Speaker 4: Those things hit within the first three weeks of the season,
Speaker 4: and after that it was like, okay, where do you go?
Speaker 4: And then it kind of just spiraled.
Speaker 2: Sure, no, the running back, I think you hit it
Speaker 2: on the head, Polluta. We don't know how good you
Speaker 2: would have been, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, he would have been better than what they
Speaker 4: were rolling out and what they were for because you
Speaker 4: you had to force a true freshman and that's still
Speaker 4: a mission. Well red shirt freshman, that's still a mission.
Speaker 4: It is it is, But I mean, is it a
Speaker 4: real mystery? Could he have been healthy? That's the question?
Speaker 4: His health is true question. But Okay, Rhino doesn't have
Speaker 4: to play left tackle as a red shirt freshman. You
Speaker 4: move him to right tackle, you know, and he blew
Speaker 4: out his you know, he hurt his knees, So who knows.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of factors that went in
Speaker 4: on On in that season.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, but you're right with the running back, we
Speaker 2: had him on. You had a good kid, obviously, very talented,
Speaker 2: but that was a huge blow I think to the program.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the rest of the running backs they were
Speaker 4: very good number twos. Nobody in that room was the
Speaker 4: number one.
Speaker 2: We Sawsky merit and that would have given Noah some
Speaker 2: relief the backfield decisions stuff like.
Speaker 4: That, because they built that group off of what cross
Speaker 4: Kymeric could do and it just didn't work out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, circumstances of an answer are crazy, you know,
Speaker 2: baseball two, I'm sure softball number of things. You know,
Speaker 2: Arizona wins their fourth straight NCAA title or fourth or
Speaker 2: fifth back in the day in the nineties, when UCLA
Speaker 2: uses that, Tanya.
Speaker 4: Oh that well that yeah, I mean they three petd
Speaker 4: twice with one gap year with an outwall.
Speaker 2: For and they don't get credit for winning that thing.
Speaker 2: And she was what older or not she was an
Speaker 2: ineligible player from Australia. That's fine, Yeah, Tanya Hardy. You know,
Speaker 2: certain things happen for a reason or no, you know,
Speaker 2: unknown reasons.
Speaker 4: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: It'll be good.
Speaker 4: Uh it a minute or so yeah, pretty much real quick.
Speaker 3: Jaden Parker committed, So I think that's like the fourth
Speaker 3: or fifth coming high school today looks like what's going on.
Speaker 4: I mean, you just have those official visits not too
Speaker 4: long ago, so people are wrapping those up. I know
Speaker 4: they're gonna have more official visits. But the month of
Speaker 4: June and July, you're gonna see a lot of commitments
Speaker 4: across the country. UCLA I think got like five in
Speaker 4: the last twenty fi kids.
Speaker 2: These kids getting paid.
Speaker 4: It depends on the kid getting paid. Some of them
Speaker 4: are give me a figure. So from what I was told,
Speaker 4: and I'm not obviously source wise in terms of how
Speaker 4: the athletic department at the university was run at least
Speaker 4: during Brennan's first year, I don't know how true it is.
Speaker 4: Inaccurated is this year every player on the fifty three
Speaker 4: man roster had a base of let's say, again, I
Speaker 4: forget the real number, but let's say twenty five thousand,
Speaker 4: and if you're doing well, if you're you know, kicking butt, okay,
Speaker 4: seventy five thousand for a guy like Noah and t
Speaker 4: Mack who got you know that that money from the
Speaker 4: booster and kind of spread it out to the team.
Speaker 4: Yes they did have more, but they spread it out.
Speaker 4: So it was comp not only being on the roster
Speaker 4: you got paid, but compensation for your your your worth
Speaker 4: and play on the field. So it does fluctuate, but
Speaker 4: everybody on the fifty three man roster at the time
Speaker 4: was getting a percentage.
Speaker 2: I'm not tired of you yet. You got to go.
Speaker 2: Thank you. What's against tomorrow