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<v Speaker 1>Streamy live on the Ihearts Radio. While this is Eye

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Eying the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today is Troy

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<v Speaker 2>Hutchison from Goisycats dot Com. Now we have Ray with

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<v Speaker 2>breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eye on the Ball, Breaking News on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, starting off with the obvious one from the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Arizona, how much.

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<v Speaker 2>More can you talk about this silly game? I'm just joking.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, but they lost three to eight.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a good game for until the eighth, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and then kind of Philip It's opened Phillipark.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel bad for the picture of right because he

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<v Speaker 2>had had a great year and then you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the starter and stopper of all. The criticism goes to.

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<v Speaker 4>Their like a Mason White couple as too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, stuff stuff happens.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean it's in the biggest moments, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, so in front of a lot of people, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, one thing I want to point out

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<v Speaker 4>is Summer Hill got injured throughout the season, they brought

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<v Speaker 4>him back and he really didn't look the same. I

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<v Speaker 4>wonder how healthy he actually is and that that played

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<v Speaker 4>a role throughout the season. I think he like banging

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<v Speaker 4>up his knee or something like that. I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was a lower Lake area.

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<v Speaker 3>Keeping it going with some commitments stuff. One that Troy

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't talked about yet, thankfully, Darren Schmidt committed about an

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<v Speaker 3>hour AGO's He from uh Vancouver, Washington, and Adam Gorney

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<v Speaker 3>says that he flipped from Boise State to.

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<v Speaker 2>Come here Vancouver, Washington, one of the prettiest places in

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<v Speaker 2>the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Was that like legitimate or I've never been there.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just wondering, fantastic because I've seen Pullman in well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, on the other side of the Okay, there

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<v Speaker 5>you go, Okay, sure, Pullman, well Pullman, Yeah, I guess okay, spoken,

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<v Speaker 5>It's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Pullman, Yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Never been to Washington, so I wouldn't know. Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 3>we kind of went over. Three star from California, R J.

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<v Speaker 3>Moseley committed the wide receiver. Another one is a three

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<v Speaker 3>star from Texas quarterback Zayer Hiller. I think that's how

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<v Speaker 3>you say his name and do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see Britain. Is he status quo? On the recruits?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they doing better? What do you what do you

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<v Speaker 2>see from that?

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<v Speaker 4>I think well, right now on our website on rivals,

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<v Speaker 4>Hiller is an unranked recruit. There's another recruit tell Us

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<v Speaker 4>that is unranked as well. That could change in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of the recruiting updates, but I think overall, they're they're

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<v Speaker 4>getting the guys they want to. Now, there's some big

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<v Speaker 4>fish out there, like we talked about Jayda and Oneil,

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<v Speaker 4>the four start quarterback that's committed to Oklahoma, some other

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<v Speaker 4>guys that they could potentially flip. So if you get those,

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking at a recruiting class by the time National

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<v Speaker 4>signing Day comes around maybe in the thirty five forty range,

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<v Speaker 4>which would be a very good class for Arizona and

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<v Speaker 4>kind of that that range that right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>And to Don's point, that's where Arizona is in the

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<v Speaker 2>grand scheme of football, right if you get if they

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<v Speaker 2>got to a twenty five ranking, how big would that be?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Jed got to a nineteen. It's the largest,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the largest class in Arizona history.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and he's kind of showed for it right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, really well, and how often does that happen?

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<v Speaker 4>It's maybe once every five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I know who I am. I'm no Brad Pitt,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm Steve Rivera. You know what I'm saying. You

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<v Speaker 2>are who you are, And I think to Don's point,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he was talking about, and to your point too,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of maybe you're not You're not Dawn and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not Brad Pitt. You're right. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not. You're trying to be optimistic to be nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>more often that ain't gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, but I think it can happen. Not And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying consistent nineteen nineteen nine, No, no, okay, give

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<v Speaker 4>me consistent consistent thirty about thirty to forty?

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<v Speaker 2>How often does that happen?

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<v Speaker 4>Mike had it going like that, Mike top top forty?

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<v Speaker 2>How old were you then?

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<v Speaker 4>I know that? But how much how much of the

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<v Speaker 4>recruiting fall off after Mike whins were a bunch a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch and that and that hurt it a lot? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>yea yeah, someone came in, Yeah, completely right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you said, could could it continue to happen like

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and Fish every now and again more often.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it depends on who you have as as a coach.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, because let's say Brennan, they have a great

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<v Speaker 4>year and they have the number thirty, we'll say thirty

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<v Speaker 4>four recruiting class. After everything's said and done the next year,

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<v Speaker 4>you can use that for a moment. Hey, look, we

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<v Speaker 4>have this as an assist, we have rules.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how much I hate recruiting because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>much of crap.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm shooting fact.

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<v Speaker 2>That you could have one good year and then it

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<v Speaker 2>falls off because well, now the kids want to play

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<v Speaker 2>and the kids that just came are going to play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all cyclical, right, So so you're thinking thirty thirty

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<v Speaker 2>two to thirty five is realistic consistently.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're showing progress as a program. Now, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>that four and eight, that isn't going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that you're here at theres.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's a lot of factors.

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<v Speaker 4>I get that. I'm just saying rich Rod was a

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<v Speaker 4>consistent seven game winner. Yeah, if he how do I

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<v Speaker 4>put this, if he cared about recruiting it as much,

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<v Speaker 4>they would have been in that thirty range.

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<v Speaker 2>No. No, of course, because you know what, he had the

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<v Speaker 2>slogan okay, geez, yeah, it was okay with big, big

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<v Speaker 2>infant deal. I mean, okay, you had a slogan, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's a heck of a coach, no great

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<v Speaker 2>excesen that that was the problem with him. He thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was a great coach, and he is, but he

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<v Speaker 2>hoped to mild those kids, that he could get two three,

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<v Speaker 2>four stars into becoming better and.

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<v Speaker 4>The other issues at the time, and he tried to

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<v Speaker 4>change it at the last minute. There he didn't care

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<v Speaker 4>about defense, no care at all about defense. So having

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of no offense to them, but older dudes

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<v Speaker 4>on your recruiting staff, that on your coaching staff that

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't working at West Virginia as your defensive staff, saying

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<v Speaker 4>well we'll go call it Okage's and every now and

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<v Speaker 4>then you find you find a scooby, right sure, well okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a two star. Yeah, I mean, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's points when you have to coach them up

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<v Speaker 2>and you did or whatever. But also you have to

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<v Speaker 2>get to be the thirty thirty two to thirty three ring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know there's that you need that Arizona's not that place.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been here long enough to know that, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not catch lightning a bottle a couple of times. Boo.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure how recruiting rankings worked when Dictomy was around.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was the same guy he was. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a over Coach him or coach him up. Maybe get

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of dudes and play your asses off.

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<v Speaker 4>And an air that's two slided in a nutshell and

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<v Speaker 4>an air that. There was a lot of overlook guys too.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, if you put those players in now,

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<v Speaker 4>how would they be ranked. You know, I didn't where

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<v Speaker 4>his recruiting classes in that thirty to fifty range.

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<v Speaker 2>Constantly Anthony would know more about that guy. He followed

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<v Speaker 2>it one than me.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm saying, consistent coaching matters, and if you're able

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<v Speaker 4>to show growth. I know a lot of the kids

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<v Speaker 4>Brennan's first year, a lot of high level kids, four

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<v Speaker 4>or five sir kids that were like, oh, we love

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<v Speaker 4>the staff, we liked the university. Okay, but show us

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<v Speaker 4>before we're gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 4>Question, but we're not gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the kid I don't ten years ago from

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<v Speaker 2>Florida and you probably know the an't better than me

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<v Speaker 2>when he committed here before Star Fight start, he was

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback to Florida a couple days later. No, ye

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<v Speaker 2>tell you you're going to go to Arizona. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of the tone that I hear in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>not in reality, but in my mind, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>play football Arizona. Hell with you, you're going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>Florida or that. If you have the chance to write now,

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<v Speaker 2>is that. I'm sure that's what you hear.

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<v Speaker 4>You do this for a living, Yes, But I just again,

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<v Speaker 4>it's hard to overlook the fact of the Tetrao McMillon class. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot had to go right. Sure that even when

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<v Speaker 4>Teto Ro mcviellan, if Oregon doesn't make a coaching change,

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to Oregon, He's not coming to Arizona. But

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that they made the coaching change to Dan Lanning,

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that Dan Lanning really had an emphasis on

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<v Speaker 4>the defensive side of the football with the recruits and

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<v Speaker 4>really talking to them when he came in and kind

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<v Speaker 4>of ignored the offensive guys, was the main driving force

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<v Speaker 4>for Arizona land.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a perfect, perfect, perfect But the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>that recruiting class, even if you didn't have to to

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<v Speaker 4>Roman Villain. Obviously, that's the main piece. A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>really good football players came out of there, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of NFL dudes, a lot of good football players, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of high three star, low four sarcus.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, do you catch lighting a bottle and boom,

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<v Speaker 2>here you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And the next recruiting class was very good, and

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't see them develop because once he left they

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<v Speaker 4>all transfer.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and we'll see how good he'll make them

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<v Speaker 2>be or have them be. Okay, keep going, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>your stuff, mind, it's cool. I mean, it's good hearing

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<v Speaker 2>you guys talking to me. You have the fish plate,

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<v Speaker 2>the rice, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Rice, keeping going though. This is this is one that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of caught my eye today. It was reported by

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<v Speaker 3>Javier on the fourteenth, So on Saturday, Sunnyside graduate Audrey Humanez.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Yeah, yeah, we go into the Senior World Championships

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<v Speaker 3>for wrestling obviously in Croatia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we gotta we've had around before. We'll get around

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<v Speaker 2>later at some pot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Pretty cool, nineteen years old doing big things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Where did you go to school, like Columbia or somewhere?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what she was. It doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have it on there. But no, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but side always produced tough, tough. I was actually did

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<v Speaker 2>the guys sell his ticket? Yeah, the one hundred thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't know, because I tried looking on DraftKings.

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<v Speaker 3>But I haven't pissed because now he's in trouble again.

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<v Speaker 2>And now he's in trouble for yah'd be twenty If

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't sell it, that shame on him.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's playing with fire. So yeah, why do

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<v Speaker 4>So that's gonna be a crazy But is it worth

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<v Speaker 4>potentially his career, like if he re injures that that shoulder, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>is it worth his sitting to test that out?

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<v Speaker 4>because you're gonna want him in the lineup every day,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, Well I thought they like switched it up

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<v Speaker 4>Like, you can be like he could be, he could

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe I'm I'm wrong on the rules, but I

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, this is an interesting one too, though.

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<v Speaker 3>His interpreter is yeah, I think he turned himself in,

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that was another crazy one. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>tied the game.

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<v Speaker 2>He lost the series on Saturday Friday? Whatever game?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that's it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he just took it over Indiana should have

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<v Speaker 2>won that game. Yeah, I thought there's every right to

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<v Speaker 2>win the game. Like texted with Chris because you know

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't heard a word from him today, right, Actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for a reason. If he doesn't win tonight, he's done.

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<v Speaker 4>All I gotta say is the series extender Scott Foster

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<v Speaker 4>was calling that game. Oh, just pointing that out though, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>the extended, the extended that that nice little push off

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people weren't fans of that one other

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<v Speaker 2>History, narrow away from being a perfect game.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, pretty pretty cool stuff. I mean they they also

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<v Speaker 2>That so now gone Oregon State, Arizona and Murray State Louisville.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know what happened in their game.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the other loose? Just Murray State?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, just Murray.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean that's about it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's some other big stuff, but all right, okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>your five things from yesterday?

427
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<v Speaker 7>Well, I mean started off with that eighth inning disaster,

428
00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:42.720
<v Speaker 7>which was kind of like the un on Friday, right, yeah, right,

429
00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:46.480
<v Speaker 7>like they just kind of melted down and imploded.

430
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<v Speaker 8>I also discussed missed.

431
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<v Speaker 7>Opportunities earlier in the game. I thought they could have

432
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<v Speaker 7>expanded the lead a couple different times. They didn't take

433
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<v Speaker 7>advantage of those.

434
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<v Speaker 2>So couldn't that be said for Friday's game too? Friday's

435
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<v Speaker 2>game two.

436
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<v Speaker 7>Of Sure, Yeah, Sir, talked about defense both good and bad,

437
00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:09.599
<v Speaker 7>talked about Smith Bailey super impressive again, and then just

438
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<v Speaker 7>kind of a little bit of a look ahead to

439
00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:17.160
<v Speaker 7>the future and the importance of giving to Pail a

440
00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:23.559
<v Speaker 7>contract extension and along with that like upping the assistant

441
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<v Speaker 7>coach school so that Kevin Vance is fairly compensated and

442
00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:32.839
<v Speaker 7>sticks around, which I mean, you know, they could do

443
00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:35.640
<v Speaker 7>that and he could still leave because someone could offer

444
00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:37.640
<v Speaker 7>him more money, or someone could offer him a promotion

445
00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:40.160
<v Speaker 7>to a head coach position, but they need to do

446
00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:42.960
<v Speaker 7>everything in their power to keep him on board.

447
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<v Speaker 8>If they can.

448
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, Michael going into this postseason summer Hill

449
00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.599
<v Speaker 4>obviously was banned up throughout the year and made his

450
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<v Speaker 4>way back and kind of just didn't look like his

451
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<v Speaker 4>normal self throughout the postseason and Big Ball Tournament. I

452
00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:02.480
<v Speaker 4>think a little bit of that injury kind of played

453
00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:05.960
<v Speaker 4>played out how its effect on him throughout this whole

454
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<v Speaker 4>time run for Arizona.

455
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<v Speaker 7>I do, I really do, And I think it kind

456
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<v Speaker 7>of maybe got to him mentally a little bit, like

457
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<v Speaker 7>he just I don't know, he just did not seem.

458
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<v Speaker 8>Like himself.

459
00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.839
<v Speaker 7>The longer the postseason went on. I mean, he was

460
00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:28.480
<v Speaker 7>such a destructive force earlier in the year, and when

461
00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:32.680
<v Speaker 7>he broke his hand in late March, I think it

462
00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:34.799
<v Speaker 7>was yeah, I think it was late it was late April,

463
00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:38.960
<v Speaker 7>whatever that was. He was batting over four hundred, like,

464
00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:42.799
<v Speaker 7>well over four hundred, like he was as dangerous as

465
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<v Speaker 7>any leadoff hitter in the country.

466
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<v Speaker 8>And then he came back and then he heard his hamstring.

467
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<v Speaker 7>I don't know which one is bothering him more, maybe both,

468
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<v Speaker 7>But he got out of rhythm, he got out of

469
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<v Speaker 7>sink and just wasn't the same guy. Like and we're

470
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<v Speaker 7>talking about someone who had a you know, on base

471
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<v Speaker 7>percentage of around five hundred. But when you know, the

472
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<v Speaker 7>last game of the year, the most important game of

473
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<v Speaker 7>the year, goes oh for five. I don't think it

474
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<v Speaker 7>was for a lack of effort. I just don't think

475
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<v Speaker 7>that he was feeling like himself physically. And you know,

476
00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:18.680
<v Speaker 7>confidence can wane in this in this sport especially, and

477
00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:20.400
<v Speaker 7>sometimes you get into a little bit of a rut

478
00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:22.640
<v Speaker 7>and it's hard to pull yourself out of it.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question, Michael. A few people saw that this

480
00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:29.759
<v Speaker 2>team more than you this season, and and me just

481
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<v Speaker 2>coming on board for the last you know, three four

482
00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:34.039
<v Speaker 2>weeks whatever. And I've said this, you know, by my

483
00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:36.720
<v Speaker 2>third person, I said this to Arizona fans must be

484
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<v Speaker 2>very timid, or you know, when you hit a dog

485
00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and he kind of becomes shy because one didn't score

486
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<v Speaker 2>enough runs in the last month. And then they to

487
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<v Speaker 2>me there must have been oh, no, two run needs

488
00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:51.440
<v Speaker 2>not big enough. It was just kind of like, holy crap,

489
00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:53.359
<v Speaker 2>how do you have faith in this team when they're

490
00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:55.920
<v Speaker 2>just going to disappoint you? And over the last couple

491
00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:57.200
<v Speaker 2>of games there was exactly that.

492
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<v Speaker 8>Well.

493
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<v Speaker 7>I think the the oddity of that is that they

494
00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:06.680
<v Speaker 7>were so good in late inning and one run game

495
00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:10.839
<v Speaker 7>situations leading up to that point, right. I mean, they

496
00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:15.839
<v Speaker 7>were undefeated when winning or tied after the sixth inning

497
00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.839
<v Speaker 7>before Friday, and they were undefeated when winning after the

498
00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:24.000
<v Speaker 7>seventh inning before Sunday. And that's because they generally don't

499
00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:27.119
<v Speaker 7>make a lot of mistakes in the field, you know.

500
00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:29.839
<v Speaker 7>And then of course they make two airs and one

501
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:34.880
<v Speaker 7>inning on Sundays. They hadn't made two airs in the

502
00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.839
<v Speaker 7>same game since May sixth, Okay, so that gives you

503
00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.119
<v Speaker 7>some idea how good they usually are defensively. And they

504
00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:43.279
<v Speaker 7>had the stopper of the year back of their bullpen

505
00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:46.039
<v Speaker 7>and Tony Fluda. And you know, I don't know if

506
00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:50.279
<v Speaker 7>the heavy workload from the previous weekend impacted him at all.

507
00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:54.359
<v Speaker 7>I think, you know, both he and Garrett Hicks were

508
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<v Speaker 7>the victims of some seriously bad luck.

509
00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:00.319
<v Speaker 8>I mean, that hit that the dudes for.

510
00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:05.240
<v Speaker 7>Coastal Carolinas on Friday was the word I used, was ridiculous.

511
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.400
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it was an absolutely I mean credit to him,

512
00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.880
<v Speaker 7>but he hit the ball basically off the ground and

513
00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:14.039
<v Speaker 7>blooped it right on the line down right field line.

514
00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:20.240
<v Speaker 7>And then you had another hitter for this in this

515
00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:23.200
<v Speaker 7>last game for Louisville to do almost the exact same

516
00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:25.759
<v Speaker 7>thing because Tony plut it landed almost the same spot.

517
00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:29.839
<v Speaker 7>So sometimes that is just the breaks of the game.

518
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:32.839
<v Speaker 7>You know, It's just the way things go in baseball.

519
00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:33.960
<v Speaker 2>You know.

520
00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:37.160
<v Speaker 4>I know you tweeted out that you couldn't make the trip,

521
00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:40.200
<v Speaker 4>but you were still covering the team from home. But

522
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Speaker 4>throughout this whole entire process in the College World Series,

523
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.240
<v Speaker 4>Steve and I were wondering, did you guys get to

524
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:51.960
<v Speaker 4>have that conversation or questions with Jay Johnson about his

525
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.720
<v Speaker 4>time at Arizona and how that conversation went or did

526
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<v Speaker 4>anybody or did anyone? I?

527
00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:02.920
<v Speaker 8>Okay, here's the deal. So I wasn't able to go.

528
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:08.559
<v Speaker 7>We had our partners with the Omaha World Herald recovering

529
00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:12.599
<v Speaker 7>for us out there in Omaha. But they had press

530
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:16.920
<v Speaker 7>conferences right for every team, and there were in person

531
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.920
<v Speaker 7>questions and zoom, and it was like, in person will

532
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<v Speaker 7>get priority.

533
00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:26.000
<v Speaker 8>Zoom will if we have time, right, So they got

534
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:26.799
<v Speaker 8>a half hour for.

535
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.359
<v Speaker 7>Each team, and of course participated in Coastal Carolina and

536
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.839
<v Speaker 7>it lasted maybe fifteen minutes out of the half hour

537
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:35.079
<v Speaker 7>I participated.

538
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:36.039
<v Speaker 8>In the one for Arizona.

539
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:39.359
<v Speaker 7>I was about twenty minutes out of the half hour LSU.

540
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:43.079
<v Speaker 7>They took up the whole half hour and I did not,

541
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:46.759
<v Speaker 7>and I was unable to get my question in. No

542
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:50.119
<v Speaker 7>one there asked him about his time at Arizona. I

543
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:56.000
<v Speaker 7>had a question in the holster about the twenty sixteen team,

544
00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:59.200
<v Speaker 7>you know, And it would have been a great addition

545
00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:02.359
<v Speaker 7>to that story that I did on that last game,

546
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 7>and it's a good story without him, it would have

547
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:08.519
<v Speaker 7>been a little bit better with him. Just people, a

548
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.400
<v Speaker 7>few people from the team, just reminiscing about that that

549
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:17.319
<v Speaker 7>time and that season. But yeah, no one, no one

550
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 7>was able to get a question in because there's a

551
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:22.400
<v Speaker 7>ton of LSU media there. And if you know Jay Johnson,

552
00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 7>he's loquacious, right, Like he's a talker. He's going to

553
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.400
<v Speaker 7>get you a lengthy, thorough answer no matter what you

554
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:30.839
<v Speaker 7>ask him.

555
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:32.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure he's smart enough to know that they

556
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.039
<v Speaker 2>were gonna come and oh darn, we didn't have enough time.

557
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:39.759
<v Speaker 9>Right right.

558
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:42.039
<v Speaker 7>I mean, look, it is a situation where I kind

559
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 7>of I wish I had been there because you know,

560
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:46.839
<v Speaker 7>maybe I would have been able to intercept him, you know,

561
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 7>as he was leaving the press conference or whatever, and

562
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:52.079
<v Speaker 7>get a couple questions, and he knows me, he probably

563
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:54.000
<v Speaker 7>would have accommodated me.

564
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.559
<v Speaker 8>But that's how it goes.

565
00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.200
<v Speaker 7>There could be another occasion, you know, where LS went

566
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 7>Arizona in the same College World Series. I don't think

567
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 7>that's inconceivable at all. Un Let's you's going to be

568
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 7>going a lot with Jay down there and all the

569
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 7>resources they have, and and in Arizona they've gone every

570
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 7>four times the tournament's been contested since twenty twelve.

571
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Since you've been a regular on the show. The last

572
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:17.680
<v Speaker 2>happened a month or so. I talked to you about

573
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:20.599
<v Speaker 2>the softball program and you know, you know the season

574
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.799
<v Speaker 2>and how you rate it disappointing. Okay, so we went

575
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>there and now now here. Scale of one to ten,

576
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:30.720
<v Speaker 2>what do you rate it? And was it successful?

577
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:36.279
<v Speaker 8>Baseball? Yes, baseball definitely successful.

578
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 10>Yes.

579
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.119
<v Speaker 7>Uh, scale of one to ten, I'd say maybe like

580
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.160
<v Speaker 7>an eight some'wor up there.

581
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 8>Look, I mean the goal for any program is to

582
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:46.720
<v Speaker 8>make it to Omaha.

583
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Right.

584
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 7>No, it's satisfied within the program that they only made

585
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 7>it to Omaha and then went you know, went to

586
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 7>and out. But you know, when you gather the team

587
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:04.000
<v Speaker 7>the first day in August, I mean, that's that's that's

588
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:05.240
<v Speaker 7>the north star for everybody.

589
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:05.920
<v Speaker 14>Right.

590
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.400
<v Speaker 8>So they did that, and they progressed.

591
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.119
<v Speaker 7>And they're gonna, you know, put a bunch of guys

592
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.880
<v Speaker 7>into MLB organizations again.

593
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.519
<v Speaker 8>They seemed to be recruiting. Well, I feel like the

594
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.880
<v Speaker 8>program is in a good place. And you know, I

595
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 8>don't think I think Frank Chance, it's.

596
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:30.640
<v Speaker 7>The only coach who led Arizona to four consecutives NCAA

597
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.759
<v Speaker 7>tournament appearances in his first four seasons. Obviously, it was

598
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.000
<v Speaker 7>a different landscape back then. But Chip Hill did that

599
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:40.640
<v Speaker 7>and he got into the World Series in his fourth year,

600
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:45.160
<v Speaker 7>So that, without question, I would say a very successful

601
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.839
<v Speaker 7>season for U of a baseball You know.

602
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:52.359
<v Speaker 4>I really don't pay attention in terms of the MLB

603
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.400
<v Speaker 4>prospects and stuff like that. It's kind of harder to

604
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 4>keep up in terms of like comparison to NBA and

605
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:02.200
<v Speaker 4>NFL with the drafting in the middle of the MLB

606
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 4>season the way it is. But for a guy like

607
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 4>Mason White, who had this phenomenal postseason run, you know,

608
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 4>kind of fizzled out there at the end in Omaha,

609
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 4>but big hit after big hit and being on the

610
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 4>national stage, how much does that affect or help a

611
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 4>guy like him because he's going to get drafted. But

612
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 4>how much can that move you in the draft order

613
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 4>when you put on a display like he did this postseason?

614
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, I think for the most part that

615
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 7>scouts have made their reports and you know, reached their

616
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:36.279
<v Speaker 7>conclusions about players by this time of year.

617
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 8>But you know a lot of times we're talking about,

618
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.279
<v Speaker 8>like how do we break the tie? You know, like

619
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:44.799
<v Speaker 8>we have these guys about even or roughly in the

620
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:45.519
<v Speaker 8>same range.

621
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 7>Maybe you can move yourself up a little bitter, or

622
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 7>maybe you move down if you don't perform. I had heard,

623
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.559
<v Speaker 7>you know, when Mason White wasn't doing quite as well,

624
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 7>that maybe he's going to fall into the fourth or

625
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:01.920
<v Speaker 7>fifth round range. I think the way he performed down

626
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 7>the stretch, cutting down on his strikeouts, showing that he

627
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 7>can go the other way, still displaying.

628
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:11.960
<v Speaker 8>The elite power that we all know he has.

629
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 7>I think we're talking more third round, maybe even the

630
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 7>end of the second round for him now. And I

631
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.759
<v Speaker 7>think that's thanks to his performance in the postseason. I mean,

632
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.599
<v Speaker 7>m VP of the Big Twelve tournament, MVP of the

633
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:27.519
<v Speaker 7>Eugene Regional.

634
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 8>When the stage is.

635
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:35.359
<v Speaker 7>The biggest, the lights are the brightest, usually Mason White

636
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 7>performs his best.

637
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>What do you think his legacy will be.

638
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 8>I think it will be great.

639
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:46.319
<v Speaker 7>I mean, look, he's he's a third generation Wildcat right

640
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:51.920
<v Speaker 7>His dad and grandpa played at Arizona. He's the second

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<v Speaker 7>all time leading home run hitter in program history. He

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<v Speaker 7>I think is tied for the most extra base hits

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<v Speaker 7>in program history.

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<v Speaker 8>He also has the.

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<v Speaker 7>Most strikeouts in program history. So you know, he supposed

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<v Speaker 7>to kind of like his modern approach to hitting and

647
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<v Speaker 7>when with some of the results of that can be

648
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<v Speaker 7>and you know, he's he's someone who's he's gonna come

649
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 7>back here in the off season to work out. He'll

650
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<v Speaker 7>be around the program. He loves Arizona. It's all he

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<v Speaker 7>ever wanted to do since he was a little kid,

652
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<v Speaker 7>was to play for the Arizona Wildcats, and he got

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<v Speaker 7>to do that.

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<v Speaker 8>He fulfills his dream.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he leaves with a with a sterling legacy

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<v Speaker 7>as as one of the all time greats in program history.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like Michael lev going to a bar, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to buy a beer.

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<v Speaker 8>So not true.

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<v Speaker 4>As you look at Chip Hill and just that closing

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<v Speaker 4>press conference, you know, do you feel like for him

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<v Speaker 4>there's a sense of relief not only to get to

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<v Speaker 4>the Super Regionals and do what they did, but to

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<v Speaker 4>get the promo the program to Omaha. And I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to say a monkey office back, but you know

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<v Speaker 4>people were wondering, can can he get to super And

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<v Speaker 4>not only did he do that, but he did get

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<v Speaker 4>them to Omahan.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he did feel a sense of relief when

670
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 7>they got there, right because remember, like they hadn't even

671
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<v Speaker 7>gotten out of a regional in the first three years,

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<v Speaker 7>including one that they hosted. And when you're the host,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean you're the favorite, right, you're supposed to win.

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<v Speaker 8>Doesn't always happen. We saw a bunch of upsets this year.

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's there might be a little bit more

676
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<v Speaker 7>parody in college baseball now as we're seeing in college

677
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<v Speaker 7>basketball in college football, because everyone has money, right, so

678
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<v Speaker 7>you can spread the talent out a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 7>it was definitely a hurdle that he needed to get

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<v Speaker 7>over to me to kind of win over the fans

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<v Speaker 7>once and for all, you know, really definitively prove to

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<v Speaker 7>them that he's demand for the job.

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<v Speaker 8>I think no one quept in. You know, Chip Hale's

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<v Speaker 8>bona fides just as a baseball man or as a.

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<v Speaker 7>Man period, Like, he is extremely well liked and well

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<v Speaker 7>respected by players and coaches and colleagues. But you know,

687
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<v Speaker 7>there were questions about whether he could coach in college

688
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<v Speaker 7>because there are different elements in play in college.

689
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<v Speaker 8>Than in professional baseball, most.

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<v Speaker 7>Mostly recruiting, right, Like, could this guy who's in his

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<v Speaker 7>mid fifties get out there and recruit? And he did

692
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<v Speaker 7>a good job of hiring the right people to surround him.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think they've actually recruited better than people fought.

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<v Speaker 7>They were able to get some elite arms through the

695
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<v Speaker 7>draft last year, including Smith Bailey who was outstanding as

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<v Speaker 7>a freshman. So those are a lot of positive signs

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<v Speaker 7>for what Chip Hale has done. And to your original point,

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<v Speaker 7>try I do agree. I think it was a sense

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<v Speaker 7>of relief for him when he got past that first

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<v Speaker 7>round and then you know, Cherry on top to win

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<v Speaker 7>the Super Regional two.

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<v Speaker 2>Having covered the team for a long time, Michael, let

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<v Speaker 2>me ask you this, when was the last time you

704
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<v Speaker 2>wrote like a feature on him? And I asked you

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<v Speaker 2>that because you know, not having dealt with him a

706
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<v Speaker 2>whole heck of a lot. I think when I he

707
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.360
<v Speaker 2>was covering doing stuff, I maybe wrote a story or

708
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<v Speaker 2>two a long time ago that he was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>self effacing in the interviews during the games and kind

710
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<v Speaker 2>of funny and and just kind of like a normal dude,

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00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, Tommy Tommy, Tommy loydish and that struck me

712
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 2>as very being very cool, you know, very normal dude

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like, So, have you done a feature on

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<v Speaker 2>him lately? I have not. No.

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<v Speaker 7>The last like really in depth feature I did on

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<v Speaker 7>Chip was going into his first season.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason I asked is, how would you how

718
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<v Speaker 2>would you knowing at least maybe my perception is wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but how would you write that now? Because he is

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<v Speaker 2>just a dude who, to me, who knows baseball, and

721
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<v Speaker 2>and obviously you just mentioned they love playing for him,

722
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<v Speaker 2>because you don't get here by accident, you know. To me,

723
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<v Speaker 2>he was just a dude who loves to coach the

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<v Speaker 2>game and is pretty good at it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean it would be it would be an

726
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<v Speaker 7>interesting thing to do, and maybe I will do that

727
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<v Speaker 7>going into next season. He I think what stands out

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<v Speaker 7>to me a couple of things. One, I think he's

729
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<v Speaker 7>learned some things since he became a college coach, like

730
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<v Speaker 7>how important every game is and you can't really afford

731
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<v Speaker 7>to take a night off with a shorter season where

732
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<v Speaker 7>every game impacts your.

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<v Speaker 8>Your metrics, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think he's proved to be a smarter person

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<v Speaker 7>than a lot of people gave him credit without question

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<v Speaker 7>in terms of how in terms of how to put

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<v Speaker 7>together an entire organization.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm told that he's a very bright dude off

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<v Speaker 2>the baseball field.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, I don't doubt it.

741
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<v Speaker 7>Like I think he I think he had qualified to

742
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<v Speaker 7>get into the Navy or the Air Force or maybe both,

743
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<v Speaker 7>or like coming out of high school.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, very smart guy. And I think too, like

745
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<v Speaker 8>I think he's actually well.

746
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<v Speaker 7>Equipped for this current era because he was in professional baseball,

747
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<v Speaker 7>you know. I mean it's like it's like free agency now,

748
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 7>right every off season he is for guys who have

749
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<v Speaker 7>been coaching college baseball for twenty thirty years. Like that

750
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 7>was a shock to the system, right, all of a sudden,

751
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.039
<v Speaker 7>Like I got to re recruit all my players, and

752
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.400
<v Speaker 7>you know, like I have to redo my roster every year.

753
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:32.800
<v Speaker 7>That's like that every year in the pros.

754
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<v Speaker 8>So I don't think it was nearly as big.

755
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<v Speaker 2>Of a deal for him, and smart enough, smarter than

756
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<v Speaker 2>me not to use the word dude. You got a question,

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<v Speaker 2>be no, okay, you got it. We're good to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Michael lev I appreciate you. Will probby find

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<v Speaker 2>you somewhere the summer. Maybe you come in and be

760
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<v Speaker 2>a co host. I'm getting tired of Troy.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh wow, thank you, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 7>I will definitely look at my calendar and see if

763
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<v Speaker 7>I can work that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, thank you to join you yeah, thank you, Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>You know I joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to my the ball Here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. M Steve Rivera or Troy Hutcher send

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<v Speaker 2>your ay. Good to talk to Michael lev get the

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<v Speaker 2>scoop on the baseball team. It's funny that no one

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<v Speaker 2>asked to Well, I can understand nobody was there to ask.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, but it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess one day we'll find when I write the

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<v Speaker 4>And now's a few people don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they know, we're more curious. Yeah, we're more curious.

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<v Speaker 14>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well they know they writing it. Okay, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>back to your ninety seven. Uh and how did we

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<v Speaker 2>start this? Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you said nobody expected them. Yeah, yeah, that far

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<v Speaker 4>and god yeah yeah. Uh but I mean a key

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<v Speaker 4>part of that is Miles Simon's being suspended.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>If he wasn't suspended, what kind of seating they would have?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think they would have gotten?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Okay, so, so good question. Good question. You're assuming

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<v Speaker 2>all things would have gone better? No, was right because

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<v Speaker 2>he was out for that first semester because of academics.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's where they helped win the damn

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<v Speaker 2>thing because one Mike Bibby had to grow up. Michael

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00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Dickerson had to really grow up and show that what

853
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.119
<v Speaker 2>he was capable of because he always had it in him, right,

854
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.400
<v Speaker 2>except that he didn't get the chance because of all

855
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the dynamics. In fact, he was the year before. He

856
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:33.440
<v Speaker 2>was dynamic when they lost to Kansas in the sweet sixteen.

857
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>But so that kind of helped them set up for

858
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 2>what they went through during the regular season of the

859
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Pector and they were mediocre at the bat. You know,

860
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 2>they finished fourth, fifth in the conference eventually ran So

861
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 2>to your point of what what were you trying to

862
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 2>go get if.

863
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.800
<v Speaker 4>He was didn't have those issues he played, Let's say

864
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 4>they gel. Maybe maybe some things don't gel, is what

865
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:58.199
<v Speaker 4>you're saying, But maybe they get four or five more wins,

866
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.599
<v Speaker 4>maybe the seating goes higher because on paper that like,

867
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.079
<v Speaker 4>regardless of how that's a talent. You know, I'm sure

868
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:06.320
<v Speaker 4>everybody thought that's a talented team going into the season.

869
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Well you didn't know that until you until the next

870
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.039
<v Speaker 2>year when they were very talented and nothing. It was

871
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 2>in the eight I'll give you one more if you

872
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 2>want to go hypothetical. If you remember going into summer,

873
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:18.599
<v Speaker 2>there was a dude that there I used the were

874
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:20.960
<v Speaker 2>dude again that would have should have been on the

875
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>roster but didn't make it. Jackson or Steven Jackson. How

876
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:26.760
<v Speaker 2>how that would either screwed up the chemistry or made

877
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:30.079
<v Speaker 2>him very talented, because you know what I'm saying, sometimes

878
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>addition by subtraction or whatever you were or phrase you

879
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:37.760
<v Speaker 2>want to use pieces exactly. So we don't know what

880
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>would have happened had Steven Jackson showed up and qualified

881
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:42.719
<v Speaker 2>to be on that team. Uh. And Miles was a

882
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.639
<v Speaker 2>big factor obviously, but he had a great run. To me,

883
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:48.559
<v Speaker 2>the MVP of that whole team was mis Mike Bibi

884
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 2>because he had a great run too over a longer

885
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 2>period of time. Miles had that final four n Jason Terry,

886
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're all the Sometimes if you don't you

887
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.360
<v Speaker 2>believe in baseball gods. I believe in basketball gods. I

888
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>just believe in sports gods. And how old are you

889
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 2>in ninety seven? Two?

890
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

891
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Two? Okay, So you'd have to kind of go through

892
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:12.199
<v Speaker 2>it to say I can't believe this is happening, but

893
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.400
<v Speaker 2>believe it's happening. And in my mind, having covered all

894
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 2>those teams and written a few books, and I swear

895
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.480
<v Speaker 2>to this till the day I die. You poove Arizona.

896
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.519
<v Speaker 2>You tell Arizona they cannot do it. They come through,

897
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 2>You tell them that they it'll be easy. They poop

898
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 2>the bed because it happens all the time. Ninety eight

899
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.800
<v Speaker 2>better team than ninety seven to them, Tell them that

900
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>they're going to bet Utah easy, Oh we got this,

901
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 2>get their ass kicked. Yeah, I mean so many times

902
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 2>it happens. I think the apples to apples one was

903
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and one when they lost to Duke

904
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:48.280
<v Speaker 2>in the finals. But Arizona was handicapped with Gilbert and

905
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:53.039
<v Speaker 2>with Luke, and they didn't They weren't fully we equipped

906
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 2>the beat Duke. Could they have had that not happened?

907
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I think so.

908
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.079
<v Speaker 4>But to me is by far of the most talented

909
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 4>team Arizona is ever, without question, out question nine.

910
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you want to say, and I say this publicly,

911
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:06.559
<v Speaker 2>that's the best team in the history of Arizona basketball.

912
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah nine, with eighty eight being probably second to me

913
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>in my mind. Yeah, yeah, no, and that's I think

914
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.559
<v Speaker 2>that same conversation. And obviously this team didn't win it all,

915
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 2>but you just look on the run that they went

916
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:21.079
<v Speaker 2>on the Derek Williams team and he broke his hand

917
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:22.719
<v Speaker 2>and he had to miss a couple of games and

918
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't really have that big of a role.

919
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Those guys started to step up, they started to gel

920
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:30.400
<v Speaker 4>in their roles despite that, right, yeah, yeah, And then

921
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:32.840
<v Speaker 4>they went on this great run to the Elite eight.

922
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:36.639
<v Speaker 4>Could it probably beat Yukon if one shot goes in there,

923
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.159
<v Speaker 4>one shot goes in there, who knows what would have happened.

924
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.360
<v Speaker 4>But do they have that moment with how Derek Williams

925
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:43.519
<v Speaker 4>getting hurt and having to gel without.

926
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.639
<v Speaker 2>You'll never know problem, but I'm sure you enjoy what

927
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 2>happened with him. Yeah, in ninety seven, there were so

928
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>many things that happened that didn't happen or have you

929
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 2>know whatever vice person Bibby had to grow up, prediction

930
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 2>had to grow up without Miles there. And then Miles

931
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>shows up and the dynamic saying that take me off

932
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>the bench or move me to the bench, and I

933
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.440
<v Speaker 2>have to do that. So the roles and they were

934
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.599
<v Speaker 2>still mediocre, fourth or fifth in the conference, and they

935
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:11.239
<v Speaker 2>just caught fire. I mean, they just did. They wanted

936
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.800
<v Speaker 2>to me to my point of telling them that you

937
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:16.599
<v Speaker 2>can't and they will or whatever. South Alabama they wanted

938
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 2>there because they were on the verge of losing again

939
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>in the first round until they didn't.

940
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:25.320
<v Speaker 4>And then every every game, every game was very close.

941
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Kansas Sweet sixteen called the Charleston North Carolina, but the

942
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 2>previous one was in between Providence over time after having

943
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:37.199
<v Speaker 2>a big lead, you know, and then North Carolina and

944
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 2>then of course Kentucky. I mean, things fall into place

945
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:43.599
<v Speaker 2>for a reason. You know, you'll meet your your wife

946
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:48.039
<v Speaker 2>eventually at some point you didn't imagine and you'll say, Steve, dammit,

947
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:49.079
<v Speaker 2>why did I go there?

948
00:45:53.360 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going down that road. But could keep fisher

949
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 4>that what 'tate blame it.

950
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Ray bought me that drink, she said next to me.

951
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>The rest of history. But you know, that's just how

952
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.159
<v Speaker 2>things happened. You just do. Look at football ninety eight.

953
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Come on a pretty good football team, right and then

954
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:22.400
<v Speaker 2>the suspended game it's played later u C l A.

955
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Miami or whatever it was, and yeah, Ano they're out

956
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:28.360
<v Speaker 2>on a flukey type of situation and and a lot

957
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>of stuff happened that year. The leap by the Lake

958
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and the odds of you completing that player one hundred

959
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and one million to one. And then the u c

960
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.199
<v Speaker 2>l A game, Trohn Canada goes down entering the fourth quarter,

961
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and I believe, wasn't it Chris mccalliser was suspended for

962
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.519
<v Speaker 2>that game. Part of that game to your best players

963
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:48.800
<v Speaker 2>are out of that game, you get blown out in

964
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:51.159
<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter, you'd be u c l A. You don't,

965
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.039
<v Speaker 2>you don't need that, but you know, things that happened

966
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 2>are out of your control.

967
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:56.119
<v Speaker 10>Right right.

968
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 2>There was one other one I was going to bring up.

969
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Just so many, just so many. There's so many in

970
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Arizona's history in terms of doing more than just expect,

971
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 2>doing more than you expected, then losing with a pretty

972
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:10.519
<v Speaker 2>good darned team. Thatty eight was one of them.

973
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:14.679
<v Speaker 4>Well, last again, pretty good darned team and it turned

974
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.800
<v Speaker 4>out to be no. But last year. The expectations of

975
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:20.800
<v Speaker 4>the football program entering the year right ranked in the

976
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.400
<v Speaker 4>top twenty. Everybody expected you, Yes under Brennan, everybody expected

977
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:25.960
<v Speaker 4>you there.

978
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so okay, so realistic or not, I'm just saying yes, okay,

979
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.320
<v Speaker 2>so where did the where did the first misstep happen?

980
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:34.760
<v Speaker 4>I think the first like uh oh, this was all

981
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:39.079
<v Speaker 4>going to fall apart was when Raymond Palito quit football

982
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.280
<v Speaker 4>or whatever whatever happened with that, and then J Cory

983
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.199
<v Speaker 4>Krofsky Merrit had his eligibility.

984
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Totally and he was I totally agree with.

985
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.599
<v Speaker 4>Those things hit within the first three weeks of the season,

986
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.760
<v Speaker 4>and after that it was like, okay, where do you go?

987
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 4>And then it kind of just spiraled.

988
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Sure, no, the running back, I think you hit it

989
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:00.039
<v Speaker 2>on the head, Polluta. We don't know how good you

990
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 2>would have been, right.

991
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:02.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he would have been better than what they

992
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 4>were rolling out and what they were for because you

993
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 4>you had to force a true freshman and that's still

994
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.440
<v Speaker 4>a mission. Well red shirt freshman, that's still a mission.

995
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 4>It is it is, But I mean, is it a

996
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:13.119
<v Speaker 4>real mystery? Could he have been healthy? That's the question?

997
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 4>His health is true question. But Okay, Rhino doesn't have

998
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 4>to play left tackle as a red shirt freshman. You

999
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 4>move him to right tackle, you know, and he blew

1000
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.199
<v Speaker 4>out his you know, he hurt his knees, So who knows.

1001
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's a lot of factors that went in

1002
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 4>on On in that season.

1003
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, but you're right with the running back, we

1004
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 2>had him on. You had a good kid, obviously, very talented,

1005
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:38.119
<v Speaker 2>but that was a huge blow I think to the program.

1006
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:40.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because the rest of the running backs they were

1007
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.880
<v Speaker 4>very good number twos. Nobody in that room was the

1008
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:44.360
<v Speaker 4>number one.

1009
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:49.280
<v Speaker 2>We Sawsky merit and that would have given Noah some

1010
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 2>relief the backfield decisions stuff like.

1011
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.800
<v Speaker 4>That, because they built that group off of what cross

1012
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.360
<v Speaker 4>Kymeric could do and it just didn't work out.

1013
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, circumstances of an answer are crazy, you know,

1014
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.920
<v Speaker 2>baseball two, I'm sure softball number of things. You know,

1015
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Arizona wins their fourth straight NCAA title or fourth or

1016
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:11.400
<v Speaker 2>fifth back in the day in the nineties, when UCLA

1017
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 2>uses that, Tanya.

1018
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:15.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh that well that yeah, I mean they three petd

1019
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.599
<v Speaker 4>twice with one gap year with an outwall.

1020
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 2>For and they don't get credit for winning that thing.

1021
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:23.599
<v Speaker 2>And she was what older or not she was an

1022
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>ineligible player from Australia. That's fine, Yeah, Tanya Hardy. You know,

1023
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.320
<v Speaker 2>certain things happen for a reason or no, you know,

1024
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 2>unknown reasons.

1025
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 4>It is what it is.

1026
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:34.039
<v Speaker 2>It'll be good.

1027
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 4>Uh it a minute or so yeah, pretty much real quick.

1028
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Jaden Parker committed, So I think that's like the fourth

1029
00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:45.639
<v Speaker 3>or fifth coming high school today looks like what's going on.

1030
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:48.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you just have those official visits not too

1031
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 4>long ago, so people are wrapping those up. I know

1032
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.800
<v Speaker 4>they're gonna have more official visits. But the month of

1033
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:55.920
<v Speaker 4>June and July, you're gonna see a lot of commitments

1034
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:59.159
<v Speaker 4>across the country. UCLA I think got like five in

1035
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:00.199
<v Speaker 4>the last twenty fi kids.

1036
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 2>These kids getting paid.

1037
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 4>It depends on the kid getting paid. Some of them

1038
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.960
<v Speaker 4>are give me a figure. So from what I was told,

1039
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:15.079
<v Speaker 4>and I'm not obviously source wise in terms of how

1040
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 4>the athletic department at the university was run at least

1041
00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:20.519
<v Speaker 4>during Brennan's first year, I don't know how true it is.

1042
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:24.119
<v Speaker 4>Inaccurated is this year every player on the fifty three

1043
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:26.599
<v Speaker 4>man roster had a base of let's say, again, I

1044
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:28.800
<v Speaker 4>forget the real number, but let's say twenty five thousand,

1045
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:33.239
<v Speaker 4>and if you're doing well, if you're you know, kicking butt, okay,

1046
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:36.159
<v Speaker 4>seventy five thousand for a guy like Noah and t

1047
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.039
<v Speaker 4>Mack who got you know that that money from the

1048
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:41.280
<v Speaker 4>booster and kind of spread it out to the team.

1049
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 4>Yes they did have more, but they spread it out.

1050
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:46.840
<v Speaker 4>So it was comp not only being on the roster

1051
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:50.119
<v Speaker 4>you got paid, but compensation for your your your worth

1052
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:53.400
<v Speaker 4>and play on the field. So it does fluctuate, but

1053
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:55.519
<v Speaker 4>everybody on the fifty three man roster at the time

1054
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 4>was getting a percentage.

1055
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not tired of you yet. You got to go.

1056
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. What's against tomorrow
