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<v Speaker 1>Murder, mysteries and laughter. We are a husband and wife

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<v Speaker 1>duo with an affinity for creepy stories. Wicked and Grim

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<v Speaker 1>will take us through the world of devilish tales and

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of live and lighthearted marital disputes. So sit

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<v Speaker 1>back and relax. We're going to get into a Q

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<v Speaker 1>and A episode here on Wicked and Grim.

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<v Speaker 2>Warning materials your audience listeners, This question is.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I'm Nicole, I'm Ben, and you're listening to a

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<v Speaker 1>Q and A of Wicked and.

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<v Speaker 2>Grim True crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Q and a Q and a Q and A questions

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<v Speaker 1>and answers here we go. So if you didn't already

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<v Speaker 1>hear from last episode and the episode before that, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been warning. Yeah, we have been. This week is a

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<v Speaker 1>Q and A. Nicole is actually on vacation right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is pre recorded, so she's on vacation, chilling down

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<v Speaker 1>in the Okanhagen, British Columbia.

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<v Speaker 2>Area, the one time in our lives we've pre recorded

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<v Speaker 2>an episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, right, wow. So yeah, just to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give you guys something still to keep going on, this week,

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<v Speaker 1>we opened up lines on our social media for questions

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<v Speaker 1>and answers.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, I think people are pretty into this. We

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<v Speaker 2>got like probably close to seventy questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually blew my mind sometimes, like, oh, should we do this?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we get?

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<v Speaker 1>Like one question?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we do a podcast on that? But you guys

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<v Speaker 2>came through and we got oodles and oodles of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's definitely not a worry of if we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get questions, I think ever anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have margaritas, and we have questions, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go through them, and you're gonna get to

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<v Speaker 2>know us better and we're good. Old Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you. My margarita is almost gone ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, you still have a third. I'd say that's

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<v Speaker 2>a third, not anymore now a fourth. I have a fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually doing better than you. What the heck? Hurry up.

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<v Speaker 1>I also had another alcoholic Bedverigere did so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. We actually had a little many kind of

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<v Speaker 2>date night, I guess you could call it. We had margarita's,

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<v Speaker 2>We had pizza that we made on the barbie.

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<v Speaker 1>Made on the egg barbecue.

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<v Speaker 2>You you cooked them on the barbecue.

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<v Speaker 1>Barb barbecue onto barbeque. We had it to.

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<v Speaker 2>Pizzas Barbie from Okay, Okay, so let's dive in. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>do it, because I want to try to get through

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<v Speaker 2>as many as we can.

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<v Speaker 1>What I thought we were only doing like one question?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I wonder if we could make a podcast

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<v Speaker 2>entertaining only one one, like an hour long, forty five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes or so, just based on one question.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that sounds rough. Oh I know a question that that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that question.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to actually say something, but go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>The question that I think we should do, yeah, an

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<v Speaker 1>entire episode. Yeah, the question is why why?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Just why?

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<v Speaker 2>Open ended?

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<v Speaker 1>It there is this was probably like good ten years

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<v Speaker 1>ago that I heard this story, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's true or accurate, but it was still funny.

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<v Speaker 1>But some university down in the States had this big

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a psychology or philosophy sort of

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<v Speaker 1>so all these students go in for the exam and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a piece of paper and the only question on

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<v Speaker 1>there is why.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh kay, you would probably excel at that and I

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<v Speaker 2>would not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's the kicker. So many people just like wrote major,

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<v Speaker 1>elaborate like page after page after page explanations.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Oh, but it was tryingly so simple the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, well, I mean, how can you really answer why?

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<v Speaker 1>But there was one student who responded with why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Eh and boom like miccro just laughed right a plus.

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone else is probably just losing their shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, that is the epitome of what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I love just a boss.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Okay, Well, what I was going to say

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<v Speaker 2>is you are in some serious shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I am oh oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wow, yeah, people are not happy with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a lot of people very upset. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but I'm not I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time, well, yeah, like, seriously, there was

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<v Speaker 2>probably how many people in this world on Tuesday? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think you made cry? I think there would have

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think we had somewhere in the vicinity of

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen hundred people listened to the episode on Tuesday Tuesday alone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had several messages and emails and comments about

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<v Speaker 1>people being like We've listened to podcasts, we've listened to

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<v Speaker 1>true crime, but this episode, holy shit, and the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of tears people claim that was going on. Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and they're like at work and shit and

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<v Speaker 2>like having to leave their workstation because they're like upset.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah said that I should wax your again legs for

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<v Speaker 2>everyone because you do it. You just put us through something.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it. We'll film it and put it up on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I No, I'd actually rather wax your back.

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<v Speaker 1>Wax my back's not that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Sound like, I'm not saying it's like super hairy, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would be more enjoyable for me than your legs

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason why, I don't know, because it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like it would be more torture.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, you can wax my back. If I get

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<v Speaker 1>to wax.

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<v Speaker 2>Your back, I don't really have hair on my back.

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you dune dumb?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we'll find.

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<v Speaker 1>Out next time on Wicked in Griff Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>That can be our next special episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine it just be a screaming into the microphones.

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten waxed before, though, so like, I think I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be able to handle it better than you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten like tree pit stuck in my arm hair

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the same thing. I'm sure love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it rips that shit out, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, anyway, you're in the doghouse. Nobody likes you right now,

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<v Speaker 2>which is awesome because I feel like I get in

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<v Speaker 2>trouble a lot. So yay, yay, it's not me this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sorry for making everyone very upset. But but

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<v Speaker 1>Judith Barzy, I definitely want to share her story.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a story that deserved to be shared. So no,

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<v Speaker 2>no fault to you whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>However, I could have maybe not have played like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her final recorded lines ever that those were things that yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I could have omitted.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but it was good to hear those.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a good podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well let's move on to the questions and the answers.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll start us off number one here, Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is a Patreon. We'll start with Patreon. Then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll go through like Insta and we had Facebook and

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<v Speaker 2>then we had Instant Stories. So Mandy said, if you

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<v Speaker 2>had to do a podcast but true crime wasn't an option,

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<v Speaker 2>what topic would you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Snam, Yeah, I think we probably do like a

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<v Speaker 1>lifestyle because I mean, we're living in a tiny home.

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<v Speaker 1>We made quite a big change. Okay, you're now chasing

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<v Speaker 1>your passion. I'm now doing my uh nine to five

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<v Speaker 1>of choice, and I've got the passions on the side

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff too, So I would say I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be, yeah, like a lifestyle one or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't well my initial lot when that was business related.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see myself doing a business related podcast of sorts.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of business ones out there, like photographers

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<v Speaker 2>who have who are doing photography based podcasts, but then

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<v Speaker 2>also just about the entrepreneurship side of it and stuff too,

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<v Speaker 2>So I could see that you're very business savvy that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'd go well too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we'd do pretty good at that. Yeah. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you. Where are you on

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<v Speaker 1>our list? Because you sent me the lists here through email.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all the questions, I can't find the question you

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<v Speaker 1>just asked.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on Patreon. You that's not on the lists.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, because you sent me a Patreon I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I told you. Okay, this question if anyone wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to know but didn't want to answer, does Ben listen

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<v Speaker 2>to anything I have to say?

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<v Speaker 1>And the answer no, no, yes, I do. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shade you throw in right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit? No. I literally was like, yeah, that one's

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<v Speaker 2>labeled Patreon, but it's actually not Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're like, okay, well if it's labeled patreon,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, why did you label it patreon?

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<v Speaker 2>I can be very unorganized.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Five minutes before we started this, you were like

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<v Speaker 1>turning our tiny home apart.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep losing shit and I don't normally losings. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so do you know where we are?

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<v Speaker 1>Love, So you're losing your marbles? I can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that you're actually on Patreon?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because okay, so yeah, I just wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>through Patreon ones. It's easier on the phone, but then

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<v Speaker 2>like comments and stuff, sometimes they get they're weird. So

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<v Speaker 2>those ones I copied and pasted to documents. So okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now that everybody knows where.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at, everybody being me. Okay, thank you for throwing

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<v Speaker 1>that shade again.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you want to ask the second one or

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<v Speaker 2>do you want me?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still opening up the Patreon thing here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're doing that on the computer right yeah? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well I'll hold it up for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I accidentally just closed Patreon, So I've got to do

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<v Speaker 1>it all over again. No, go ahead, go ahead, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>catch up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So the next question comes from Remil and this

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<v Speaker 2>is a doozy. This is a doozy. It says, if

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<v Speaker 2>you could save anyone from any of the cases you've covered,

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<v Speaker 2>who would it be?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is this is a loaded question because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no right answer.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Well, that's just like it's almost heartbreaking. How

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<v Speaker 2>would you choose?

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<v Speaker 1>There's no right answer. But there's also no wrong answer either,

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<v Speaker 1>So I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, oh, there are there would be wrong answers.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, who would you save?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? No, I guess for the wrong answers. I was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like the the jerk, the perpetrators and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, fuck them their douce canoes. We know that already.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually put a lot of thought into this one,

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<v Speaker 1>So those are two options i'd go to. I would

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<v Speaker 1>would be someone who their killer is unknown, Okay, because

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I actually really like that answer. That's quite good. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I picked a person for this one, but I kind

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<v Speaker 2>your answer is way better. But Sylvia likens the girl

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing, basically like trash, and she's the opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's who I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick that's totally respectable. I understand that wholeheartedly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like the idea of someone being able to say,

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Okay, I got the questions up now, too awesome, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent agree. I'm not going to say Ireland specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>to do the Whiskey Trail, but I want to visit

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<v Speaker 1>a couple other countries over there. But yeah, definitely somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to go back to New York and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff again. But like how you feel, I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>could see myself doing that a little bit easier than

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<v Speaker 2>going to Ireland. So that's why I'm picking. Ireland is

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, we've done quite a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we've done like the the Mexico trips.

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<v Speaker 2>We did.

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<v Speaker 1>You did Orlando. We went over like down in the

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle area. Well, we've done a lot of like British Columbia,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where we're from, but British Columbia is it's

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love it. I love the coast of

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<v Speaker 2>Orlando trip a lot. But if I'm going to choose also,

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly feel like when we went to Seattle and

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<v Speaker 2>wine touring, like like quite a long road trip. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>that was really nice. It was, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>choose that one. Okay, I love road tripping with you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're probably just like, oh my gosh, no, I'm stuck

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<v Speaker 1>What is she going to ask me? She's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>We usually throw on some tunes and have a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and then once in a while you'll drink

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there was. Remember I also had a cold and

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<v Speaker 2>then an energy drink on top of it, which contribute

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<v Speaker 2>to my delusion. And here I'm driving your ass home.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you felt real safe.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not feel safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're good there, Yeah, to go ahead. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>even pick one? Though? You didn't even pick one?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Anytime we go to Taffino okay, yeah, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria trip when we went I went to that little

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<v Speaker 1>record shop into Yeah, yeah, yeah. You like the island,

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<v Speaker 1>Vancouver Island. I love Vancouver Island.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna move there one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Just throwing that out there, probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Sarah said, if you had to get one

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<v Speaker 1>What would it be? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Snap, huh that okay, I didn't think of this. Ahead

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay, I would There's two roads I would go down.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one to really get a reaction from other people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or there's one to really represent something in particular, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>like a third eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Or something Katie's revenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, there you go that. Oh that is good. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that is really good. I was thinking like an Illuminati

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<v Speaker 1>eye or something like that, just make people really think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I would probably get something pretty subtle,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest, that's just like maybe in the corner

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<v Speaker 2>room before it. That's just kind of cute.

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<v Speaker 1>See maybe a little dude, like on a lawnmower when

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I kind of think that's funny. That's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like a little man mowing blond and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going bald, right, I like it. I'd probably do that

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm thirty four as it is, or am

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<v Speaker 1>I thirty five? I'm thirty four, right, No thirty five,

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<v Speaker 1>No thirty four? Thirty four yeah, okay, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my hairline is receding slightly, not terribly yet, but

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty dang good for like grays and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fair enough, very good. Uh So, next up we

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<v Speaker 1>got Bronson, who, ironically enough, is one of my tattoos.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, from Vancouver.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so if you need a tattoo, hit up Bronson

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<v Speaker 1>down in Vancouver.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a man in town.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. So which episode are you especially proud of? Are

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<v Speaker 1>there any that you would have liked to release as

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<v Speaker 1>an extended cut or revisit? Oh, revisit Gabby Patito. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>definitely like to visit that because I think we rush that.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like, oh, let's do this one because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like big news right now. We try to like jump

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<v Speaker 1>off the hype of it. So I'd like to revisit

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<v Speaker 1>it and do that case better joke, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>we will. We will. One I'm particularly proud of, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is that Lulu Lemon Murder one. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you had everyone like you shocked everyone really

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<v Speaker 2>with what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like what well, it was a really good story,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm really proud of how I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>tell a good story in that one. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>am also kind of proud that I made so many

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<v Speaker 1>people cry with Judith. So wow, it's like I got

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll look into Ben's art. Yeah, I actually feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the picked in one I'm I'm kind of proud of,

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<v Speaker 2>just like that was a massive case and it was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of one I'd been putting off a lot and

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<v Speaker 2>then I was like, I'm gonna just do it and

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<v Speaker 2>it was it turned out good. And then the other one,

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<v Speaker 2>what the other Sarah Everard, I told a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>story on that one, made pretty deflatable actually, So yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What about extended cut? Anyones that you would like want

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<v Speaker 1>to do a deep dive into?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've always wanted to do a cult, a cult

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<v Speaker 2>episode or episodes and do a deep dive in something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But I can't think of one per se

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<v Speaker 2>that I've already done.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any that I really want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>like a major deep dive into, because what I really

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<v Speaker 1>like is I like giving like ninety to ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the information. I don't like giving it all

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<v Speaker 1>because I do want people to kind of dive in

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<v Speaker 1>on their own and discover new things. I want them

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<v Speaker 1>to find that attachment and be able to say I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to find out more and still have more

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<v Speaker 1>information to go find, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like kind of heighten their curiosity a little, right exactly. Yeah, No, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, And I think that also builds up like a

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<v Speaker 1>personal relationship with this with thedividual's story is if you

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<v Speaker 1>specifically are going and learning more about it, you are

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<v Speaker 1>making that attachment. You are going in doing it, you know. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's specific ones I'd want to

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<v Speaker 2>One I would like to take away is the Donnalleys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that it's the case, it's the episode. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've talked about that before, but that was a

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<v Speaker 2>train wreck. If you ever want to laugh about anything,

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<v Speaker 2>go listen to that one. Like I literally was Spiraling.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode number five. That is one of my favorite episodes

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<v Speaker 1>because it was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it was I was so nervous. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>a train wreck.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Samantha, she says, if you could solve any

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<v Speaker 2>cold case, which one would you choose to solve? PS

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<v Speaker 2>love that you guys are doing a Q and a nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I would go with an old school because there's still

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<v Speaker 1>a chance for some of these newer cold cases to

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<v Speaker 1>be solved, just like, for example, the Zodiac Killer was

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<v Speaker 1>like in the past year suddenly solved, right, So I'd

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<v Speaker 1>want to go with one where it's like there's no

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<v Speaker 1>chance of it really being solved, something like Jack the Ripper.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, I thought that you would say, the Black Dohlia, know,

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<v Speaker 2>the very first one that you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that a cold case for the out past?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the Dombinet I'd really like to see salved.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed like it potentially is or.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be it might be on that track right now. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah no, uh, diatlift past. Yeah, actually, now that

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<v Speaker 1>you pointed out, yeah, I would like to solve that one.

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<v Speaker 2>That one would be very interesting to see what the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck actually happened there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and that's one that I don't think ever will

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<v Speaker 1>be solved, So yeah, no, that would be my answer. Percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you forgot about that one, didn't you.

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<v Speaker 1>For a brief moment I did, which that's like my

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<v Speaker 1>all time favorite case, So I can't believe I did

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<v Speaker 1>forget about Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I'm here for. Well, mind you shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda asks if you could interview anyone from a case,

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<v Speaker 1>victim or villain, just to know their side thoughts, who

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<v Speaker 1>would it be? WHOA, that's deep. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>there's any.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would want it to interview a villain.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would want to interview a villain.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give them that voice and platform.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, I'd be shitting my pants. But I

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<v Speaker 2>would actually be very curious, very curious to get inside

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<v Speaker 2>like their head.

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<v Speaker 1>And as for victim, I'm again going to go someone

447
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<v Speaker 1>who's unsolved because then there's things we can learn, there's

448
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<v Speaker 1>potentially someone we could find.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this is gonna this is gonna blow your

450
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<v Speaker 2>mind a bit. But the the toy box killer.

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<v Speaker 1>Really I would interview him. Oh God, fuck that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's a complete disgusting piece of crap. I

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<v Speaker 2>would oh, but I think it would be interesting. If

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to interview someone, I'd want to interview

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<v Speaker 2>like one of the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, but I would pull a full

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<v Speaker 1>on Doctor Phil to that motherfucker, because Doctor Phil he

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<v Speaker 1>did an episode where he interviewed that I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's name, but he was the creator of bum fights.

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<v Speaker 1>He would literally like give bums drugs to fight what. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd like here the winner gets like these crack rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically here is they haven't heard of this?

463
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like a thing in early two thousands,

464
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<v Speaker 1>like around Jackass era. Yeah, it's called bum fights. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Phil had this guy on his show, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe this guy even showed up dressed up as Doctor Phil,

467
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<v Speaker 1>like shaved his head as wow, preceding hairline and everything. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Phil brought this guy on his show to kick

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<v Speaker 1>him off his show. Nice, right, that's what I do. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna interview you when I sit down with him

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<v Speaker 1>and like get the fuck out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's fair. That's totally fair. Okay, Sheila. When researching

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<v Speaker 2>Slash watching true crime, what interests you more the detective

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<v Speaker 2>work or the forensics?

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, that's a good question. Forensics.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say forensics as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I get mad at detective works sometimes because sometimes

478
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<v Speaker 1>it's just so bad or they ignore things. Yeah, forensics

479
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<v Speaker 1>never lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I really it's Yeah, it's very interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>see what they can test and what comes out and stuff, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then like you said, it's pretty pretty much the true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tiffany, if you could visit one place in the States,

484
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<v Speaker 1>where would you go? And why cough cough, Alabama is

485
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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool? Heard, it's actually pretty cool there. Yeah. Oh,

486
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<v Speaker 1>that's a good one place in the States. I'm like

487
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<v Speaker 1>drawing a blank on anywhere that is in the States

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Wow, United States? Where is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. The places that come to my mind

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<v Speaker 2>are places I've already been, Like, I'm obsessed with San Francisco, obsessed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've said that before. And New

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<v Speaker 2>York also love so New York. Probably if I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to pick a place to go to the States right now,

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<v Speaker 2>New York will be top of my list because I

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<v Speaker 2>was only there like a couple of days. I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up getting really sick and I was by myself, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to kind of redo that trip. So I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say New York.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a fair I wouldn't mind visiting New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I would get very sick of it very quick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's wild, like it's a pretty cool place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could imagine, I think for me it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be out in Nevada area fifty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah. You can't really get there though, can

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<v Speaker 2>you know?

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<v Speaker 1>But you can get to the gate, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're standing at the gate, like SUVs will pull

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<v Speaker 1>up on the hillside and there's like people watching you

509
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<v Speaker 1>and there's like arm guards and shits, Like when you're

510
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<v Speaker 1>standing there, you probably have a rifle pointed at your head.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. Chicago would be another cool place. San Diego's all

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<v Speaker 2>my list as well, but I'm going there in November,

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<v Speaker 2>so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't mind going to San Diego for Sandygo Comic Con.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason I've avoided it so far is I

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine how busy it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, you ready, I'm ready, Michelle. Is the goal

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<v Speaker 2>to do podcasting full time and not have your other jobs?

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<v Speaker 1>For me? One hundred percent? I would. I'm actually I've

520
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<v Speaker 1>been taking classes as voice acting and stuff too. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to do this for a living one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's with Wicked and Grim because maybe it's not

523
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<v Speaker 1>your thing and I evolve into some other projects as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but one hundred percent for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be pretty awesome just to have one focus,

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<v Speaker 2>but I also love photography so much that it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a part of me. And I'm not sure I could

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<v Speaker 2>ever see myself not taking photos, that's really I can't.

529
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<v Speaker 2>I can't see a future without that. So I could

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<v Speaker 2>see myself cutting back in then and like focusing more

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a fair answer. You're good with photos,

533
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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, they keep going out what you're good at

534
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<v Speaker 1>and what you love, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Shenise, what cold case do you want solved the most? Again?

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<v Speaker 1>Diatl pas?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, we kind of answered that one above. Ah, yeah,

539
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<v Speaker 2>there are going to be a few people that ask

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<v Speaker 2>the same things. So yeah, okay, why don't you do

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<v Speaker 2>the next one too? Then? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Leah, what case have each of you covered that has

543
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<v Speaker 1>given you the most sleepless nights?

544
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<v Speaker 2>I got an answer, I'm going.

545
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<v Speaker 1>To say right now. I generally sleep very good at night.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't usually have sleepless nights, but it's a how

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<v Speaker 1>long do I think about the case afterwards? How many

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<v Speaker 1>days it is it on my mind? Yeah, Toy box

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<v Speaker 1>Killers stayed in my head for all long time, but

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<v Speaker 1>the one that still stays up to my head to

551
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<v Speaker 1>this day is Rodney al Calla.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, hey, the Dating game caller. Yeah, okay, I

553
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<v Speaker 2>thought you were gonna say d Junko.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, definitely her as well, but Rodney al call It.

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<v Speaker 1>It's his body count is some astronomical number, like they

556
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<v Speaker 1>expected to be over one hundred and forty or something

557
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<v Speaker 1>like that estimated. That's crazy, right, Like I cannot imagine. Wow,

558
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<v Speaker 1>that's unconfirmed, but that's their estimate of being somewhere gusting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think Rodney al Calla is one that's stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with me for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually gonna say, really, the most recent one I did,

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<v Speaker 2>the Richardson murders. That one actually had me pretty fucked

563
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<v Speaker 2>up for a while because I think I dove into

564
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<v Speaker 2>that case extremely deeply, like read the book. It was

565
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<v Speaker 2>just like top of mine kind of all the time

566
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<v Speaker 2>for like two weeks pretty much, and it was yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>got me. That one got me. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, I was like, eat, what is it? What's

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<v Speaker 2>the saying eat, sleep, breathe the Richardson's.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, no, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I reading the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know who read them.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I can't remember, I'll do that. What podcasts do

575
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<v Speaker 1>you listen to? What podcasts would you love to guess on? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are you an answer? Okay, well I asked the question.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just staring at me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that's true. Okay, So I am not a huge

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<v Speaker 2>podcast listener, which is probably shocking. I like to listen

580
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<v Speaker 2>to audible books. It's kind of what I'm doing most

581
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<v Speaker 2>of the time if I'm like just listening to something.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will occasionally listen to Morbid Canadian True Crime.

583
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<v Speaker 2>I also like the podcast Serial Killers. I don't know

584
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<v Speaker 2>if you've listened to that, Yeah, Crime Drunkie occasionally, and

585
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<v Speaker 2>then I do have some business podcasts that I listened to.

586
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<v Speaker 1>Us. Well, I'm I'm not a big podcast listener, so

587
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<v Speaker 1>neither of us are really I started out, like last year,

588
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<v Speaker 1>listening to a lot of podcasts, but now I don't

589
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<v Speaker 1>listen to a lot. I huge on music. I love music,

590
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<v Speaker 1>and I'm bouncing around genres all the time and I

591
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<v Speaker 1>pretty much have music on twenty four to seven. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I do listen to podcasts, I'm usually listening regarding

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<v Speaker 1>a topic that I'm currently interested in, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 1>case i'm researching, and I'll go to say Morbid for example.

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<v Speaker 1>I have listened to them a lot, but I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>to Morbid for example, and I'll listen to their case

597
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<v Speaker 1>while I'm driving to work and stuff. Yeah, so before

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<v Speaker 1>I research, I know the basics on what I'm researching.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like a big YouTuber too, yes, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's I just love content in general. It's

601
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<v Speaker 1>so hard for me to stick to one. I bounce around,

602
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<v Speaker 1>Like if I'm doing a case research, I'll listen to

603
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<v Speaker 1>Morbid on one. Next episode, I'll listen to dark Poutine

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<v Speaker 1>next episode, I'm listening to small Town Dicks, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going all around and I'm listening to pieces of Everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So Michelle, how long does it typically take

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<v Speaker 2>to create a podcast episode, research, recording, and social media?

608
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<v Speaker 1>Long time? Forever. I managed to do it a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit quicker than Nicole sometimes you do for me, usually

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00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>around eight hours of research per episode, and I think

611
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<v Speaker 1>you you might be around like nine or ten at.

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<v Speaker 2>Least probably, Yeah, Like that's just the research. So then

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<v Speaker 2>so then you're researching, and then it's about an hour

614
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<v Speaker 2>or so to record, and then bend does all the

615
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>stuff afterwards, which takes you like another hour or so.

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00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I do the editing and uploading and all

617
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<v Speaker 1>that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And then whoever did the case does the social media

619
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<v Speaker 2>the next day. And that's not really that long. That's

620
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<v Speaker 2>not that we don't post a shit ton on our

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<v Speaker 2>social media, Like it's mostly just on Tuesdays and stuff, right,

622
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<v Speaker 2>but sometimes we spend a bit more time on social

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<v Speaker 2>media if we have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'd say you're looking at probably at least

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hours an episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at least at least yep, which is wild, Like,

627
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<v Speaker 2>that's so long.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. Tracy music is my go to when I'm stressed?

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<v Speaker 1>What is yours music for me? One hundred percent already

630
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<v Speaker 1>mentioned I'm big on music and have it going all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, just to continuing stressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is mine fair enough? Also, having a drink after

633
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<v Speaker 1>a long day at work, it's not so much like

634
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<v Speaker 1>the alcohol I need to get drunk. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>no different than having a coffee in the morning. It's

636
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<v Speaker 1>just it's a nice hug, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I used to I'll be all about taking baths.

638
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not super into that with the tiny home, just

639
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<v Speaker 2>because we're like the water I feel like is more.

640
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<v Speaker 2>It's not an issue, but it's just my head a little.

641
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<v Speaker 2>We don't have like you can't just turn your tap

642
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<v Speaker 2>on kind of thing. Yeah, but I do love just

643
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<v Speaker 2>like going outside too. That's a big one for me.

644
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<v Speaker 2>If I need a break, I'll just walk outside, take

645
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<v Speaker 2>five minutes or so.

646
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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, cuddle the doggles a bit too.

647
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love that.

648
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<v Speaker 1>So B asks have you guys ever been Bugaboo Creek?

649
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<v Speaker 1>There used to be a restaurant chain that was Canadian

650
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<v Speaker 1>themed in the US named after it. Every time I

651
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<v Speaker 1>go there, pretty much saying curious about if anyone has ever,

652
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<v Speaker 1>if she knows anyone? Or sorry, they know anyone. I

653
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<v Speaker 1>don't want to assume genders. My apologies if I did,

654
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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, do we just do they know anyone who's

655
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<v Speaker 1>who's been there?

656
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:22.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that is?

657
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Bugaboo Creek is actually just outside of Golden.

658
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh, seriously, you know what this is?

659
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh? Which Nicole is from Golden No, I'm not

660
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<v Speaker 1>well kind of.

661
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I was never living there. My sister did.

662
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought you did live there for for a little

663
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<v Speaker 1>like a year or something.

664
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<v Speaker 2>No, I wasn't My family lived there before I was born.

665
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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, that's what it was. Okay, Well, Nicole's family's

666
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<v Speaker 1>from Golden so there we go. But no, I haven't been.

667
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Probably I'm like, what's that.

668
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it looks like it's an absolute beautiful area

669
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<v Speaker 1>b C. So I can imagine it's it's gorgeous.

670
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<v Speaker 2>So the Cootoney's is one area of BC that I

671
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<v Speaker 2>need to explore more are Fair because like that's the

672
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<v Speaker 2>Is it the Cootonies?

673
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think it's cooteneyes? Is it? I don't know.

674
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm like, don't even know what the Cootones like

675
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Nelson and stuff. Isn't the Cootenes I thought Golden was.

676
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 2>But maybe I'm totally off here.

677
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm on Google Maps right now looking.

678
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, there's not I'm not familiar even with all

679
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.519
<v Speaker 2>parts of our province and I would like to get

680
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<v Speaker 2>more familiar.

681
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 1>So okay, now that's totally in the Cooties.

682
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, I thought, so yeah.

683
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>That's uh mountains. Yeah, that's basically right between Kamloops and Calgary,

684
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 1>south of Golden right by Revelstoke Okay, yeah, yep, or

685
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.599
<v Speaker 1>by Radium Hot Springs yeah, gorgeous area in there.

686
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that took care of all of our Patreon questions.

687
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Where do you want to move on to next? Do

688
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 2>you want to do insta?

689
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Sure? Is that actually the instant docucent it is? Okay?

690
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>What is the Patreon docusent me? What does that? Then?

691
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>That is Instagram stories?

692
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, okay, so let's hit up Instagram first. Okay, Okay,

693
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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you read the first one. Go for it.

694
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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So it's from Sage Beauty PG. Why a true

695
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>crime podcast? I'll let you answer this.

696
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<v Speaker 1>You're going to answering that well. Before the podcast started,

697
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<v Speaker 1>I actually had another podcast. I believe it's off air

698
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<v Speaker 1>and now you can't find it on the internet. Might

699
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<v Speaker 1>be able to find an episode or two. I was

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<v Speaker 1>called insert creative title, where I interviewed creative individuals and

701
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you interviewed me once I did. I Actually I had

702
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<v Speaker 1>some big names on the show. I call me Chris

703
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I talked to Yeah. But I love doing podcasts. I

704
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.559
<v Speaker 1>love content creation. But I was having a lot of

705
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.799
<v Speaker 1>trouble with guests bailing on me and consistency, and I

706
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.559
<v Speaker 1>was like, God, I want to do something with someone

707
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 1>who I know, can be like relied on and relied

708
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>on episode after episode after episode. Thus my wife.

709
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:58.759
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, Okay, glad that I'm reliable.

710
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it you live in the same house.

711
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It makes sense, right, Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying.

712
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 1>So that approached, you know, it's like, we should do

713
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 1>a podcast together because it'd be great for us to.

714
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 1>At that time, we were like, we do so many

715
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>things apart, we need to do more things together.

716
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

717
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, let's do something together. How about creating

718
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 1>a podcast. I love content creation. Let's make that content

719
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>about something you love. And I was like, what about

720
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 1>true crime? True crime's growing in popularity. At that time,

721
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>there was like no husband and wife duos right doing

722
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:32.119
<v Speaker 1>true crime podcasts. I'm like, so it's something unique, why not? Yeah,

723
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>So we hopped on it.

724
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gone really well. I don't know how. Was

725
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I pretty amped right away or was I pretty hesitant?

726
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I kind of remember you were hesitant for sure.

727
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Just the time. Mostly they always seem like we lack

728
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<v Speaker 2>time and then we're adding something else to the plate.

729
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>So mm hmm.

730
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:49.039
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, I don't regret it. It's it is

731
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot of work. But it's it pays off like immensely.

732
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So next question is, what is something that you

733
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<v Speaker 1>have learned that is mind blowing or is something that

734
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:04.519
<v Speaker 1>really sticks with you today? Oh that is so much. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest thing for me is there so many people

736
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>who just don't ask questions, who don't report things. Someone's

737
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<v Speaker 1>talking about something like Judith Barzi. How many times did

738
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<v Speaker 1>her father say I'm gonna kill her, I'm gonna kill her,

739
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna kill her, and people just like, oh, yeah,

740
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 1>sure and they didn't say anything. That blows my mind

741
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>every fucking time that people don't speak up.

742
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well there was that other one though, that blew

743
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 2>your mind. The was it Celebrity Killer? Is that what

744
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:32.039
<v Speaker 2>it was called?

745
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't even remember which episode that is?

746
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, uh oh, I can't remember his name,

747
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.119
<v Speaker 2>but remember he like got famous pretty much after and.

748
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 1>People interview him. Yeah, trying to remember he was over

749
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>in Japan, was it or something?

750
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

751
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I totally know between you're talking about. I

752
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>say Yagawa, right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, okay,

753
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, the celebrity Cannibal right, okay.

754
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's coming back to me. That one was wild

755
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.119
<v Speaker 2>that one. I remember blowing your mind completely.

756
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, because people just like romanticized this murderer. It's like,

757
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck?

758
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like they're nothing special. They they don't deserve any

759
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:17.199
<v Speaker 2>any credit or and it's not abration or anything.

760
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not much different to how people hold Ted Bundy

761
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 1>at such high regards, like oh my god, he's so hot,

762
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's like he fucking killed people.

763
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah gross. Yeah, okay, So what we might have already

764
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.519
<v Speaker 2>what inspired you guys to do a true crime podcast?

765
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.360
<v Speaker 2>My fiance and are obsessed with the pod. Much love

766
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 2>from Kansas.

767
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate that awesome, But yeah, it boils down to I

768
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>love content creation, Nicole loved true crime, and we needed

769
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to spend more time together.

770
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Spend more time together.

771
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so boom wi getting Grim was born.

772
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:50.800
<v Speaker 2>There you go, there you go.

773
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Did you know my friend in Canada? Did you know you?

774
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you know your my friends in Canada? I want

775
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to tell my husband about your podcast. Thanks for feels

776
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 1>like friends, True Cramp podcasts all that. That's awesome. We'd

777
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.800
<v Speaker 1>love to hear that people actually consider us like friends.

778
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.280
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a big part of this love that. I

779
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.280
<v Speaker 1>love that because we just wanted to be you know,

780
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>just us and ourselves and kind of include you guys,

781
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>like you were sitting down having a conversation with us.

782
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>So that's that means a lot.

783
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Which we do get a lot. So I feel like

784
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Speaker 2>that's working, which is good.

785
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:23.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

786
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what is your favorite case you haven't covered

787
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 2>and want to? I still I think I've said this before,

788
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 2>but I really want to do that Johnson Bentley. Yeah,

789
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:36.480
<v Speaker 2>so that's like top on my list.

790
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, there's so many and none that I can

791
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 1>think of at this moment. None that I'm trying to think.

792
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 2>So many, but I can't think of a single one.

793
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I do know that there's like there's multiple and

794
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I know that they've got them like a star beside

795
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:56.079
<v Speaker 1>them in our little book and everything you need your book.

796
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 2>We don't even have it out here.

797
00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.199
<v Speaker 1>No, we don't.

798
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.639
<v Speaker 2>There is a giant list though, of ones we want

799
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.800
<v Speaker 2>to cover, yes, and Ben can't think of one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Well, I do know I want to cover the

801
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>dipick Box. I want to cover that one. But that's

802
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.119
<v Speaker 1>not true crime. That's that is a paranormal case.

803
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you love your paranormal I do. Yeah, you could

804
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:18.840
<v Speaker 2>have a paranormal podcast even.

805
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, well spoiler alert, something like that might be in

806
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:23.079
<v Speaker 1>the works.

807
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the next question we've already answered.

808
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what maybe do you want to start your crime podcast? Yeah, so,

809
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:35.199
<v Speaker 1>as someone who's choosing the child free life, are you

810
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>too choosing that path too? Do you want to answer

811
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:42.519
<v Speaker 1>that one?

812
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Sure? Yes, sure, there's always the one percent chant.

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00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>There's yeah. This year, actually we kind of made the

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<v Speaker 1>call that I think I think we're going to go

815
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:52.199
<v Speaker 1>child for you.

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00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I think we're relating towards that. I don't know. I

817
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:57.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know that I dislike kids or anything, but literally,

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00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 2>if you had me a baby and you had me

819
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 2>a puppy, the puppy is going to make me probably

820
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:05.920
<v Speaker 2>a hundred times more excited. So like I maybe should

821
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<v Speaker 2>just continue to get dogs.

822
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And everyone always says, well, it's different when it's

823
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>your own. It's different. I'm sure it is. But just

824
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:16.320
<v Speaker 1>because you can be happy with a kid doesn't mean

825
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>you can also be happy without.

826
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I do think too. Lots of times parents they like

827
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.440
<v Speaker 2>it's hard, it's I can only imagine how hard it is,

828
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<v Speaker 2>And it lots of times it doesn't sound like anyone's

829
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<v Speaker 2>having a lot of fun. Who are parents Like that's

830
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.199
<v Speaker 2>probably an unpopular opinion. I'm sure it's completely worth it,

831
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.760
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of things it doesn't sound overly fun

832
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<v Speaker 2>at times, like at all.

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<v Speaker 1>No, what are people's reaction when you tell them you

834
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<v Speaker 1>have a true crime podcast? A lot of the times,

835
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.079
<v Speaker 1>at least in my experience, people just kind of brush

836
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.519
<v Speaker 1>it off, like, oh, yeah, I'm sure you do, like

837
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:57.119
<v Speaker 1>like it's we're just and nobody just doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they assume it's not successful. Yes, they okay, good

839
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<v Speaker 2>for you, like pat pat little Sally on the shoulder.

840
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure you'll have fun in the next week

841
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:06.719
<v Speaker 1>of trying to make that work.

842
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, I mean, but we're also not very good

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<v Speaker 2>at being like, yeah, we have a true grim podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It has like this many downloads and and we've covered

845
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<v Speaker 2>this and we've been featured here, blah blah blah blah.

846
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 2>So like we're not very We don't toot our.

847
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Horn, we're not very boathful. I mean we do on

848
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>social media a little bit, like we try and celebrate.

849
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.679
<v Speaker 2>We're celebrating it with our listeners exactly.

850
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 1>But outside the real world, I mean, yeah, we don't

851
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 1>talk about it a lot. Really, No, but we have

852
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:34.800
<v Speaker 1>had positive reactions and we've had negative ones.

853
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Too, Yeah, we have. Okay, so what are each of

854
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:42.119
<v Speaker 2>your favorite cases you've covered so far and.

855
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Why kind of already talked about that. Mine is definitely,

856
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>uh well, if not Judith Barci now, but the Little

857
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Lemon murder. I love ones that tell the good story,

858
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>whether it's solved or unsolved, or mystery or paranormal. A

859
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.280
<v Speaker 1>good story to me is is important. So when we

860
00:40:58.280 --> 00:40:59.400
<v Speaker 1>actually succeed in that.

861
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this did. I do think this. Sarah Everall was

862
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:05.639
<v Speaker 2>one on the top of my list just because it

863
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>was so crazy, like, oh my gosh, it's scary because

864
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that could happen to anyone. I feel like the yogurt

865
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.239
<v Speaker 2>chop murders was an interesting one.

866
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:18.599
<v Speaker 1>To research as well. Yes, that was actually a good one.

867
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:20.920
<v Speaker 2>That was pretty sad. I mean they're all sad.

868
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, what are your pets named after? Well, Mika

869
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>is named after Meka on Eurotrip the movie. Ripley is

870
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>named after Ripley on Aliens the movie. And shout out

871
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 1>to Brittany who helped me land on that name. I

872
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:40.239
<v Speaker 1>was thinking on it for a while a couple different ones,

873
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and She's like, what about Ripley And I was like yeah,

874
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:46.119
<v Speaker 1>and then Kiwi is named after a Kiwi.

875
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Kee is the one I named oh my gosh, which

876
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.119
<v Speaker 2>just like I probably shouldn't have just said that, I

877
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:59.320
<v Speaker 2>just played into what everyone already thinks of me. I

878
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I thought be so funny to have a

879
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 2>cat named Kiwi just and suits the shit out of

880
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:04.039
<v Speaker 2>him too.

881
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So what are some of your favorite bands and

882
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>someone you'd love to see in concert? Asking because I

883
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.320
<v Speaker 1>just saw Red hutchli Peppers live last week and still

884
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>fresh in my mind, I love that I'd love to

885
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>see Red Hutchili Peppers actually Spice Girls. Oh of course

886
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you would, kay.

887
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Literally, I've heard so many times if there's like a

888
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.440
<v Speaker 2>reunion and that was like my jam when I was

889
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.199
<v Speaker 2>a child. So I would totally one hundred percent and

890
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 2>go on rock that shit nice.

891
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not too big on live concerts, I mean, I've

892
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I would definitely go see some I love like rock,

893
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.639
<v Speaker 1>classic rock, and even getting into like some heavier, like

894
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.119
<v Speaker 1>some metal stuff that's kind of my life, even.

895
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Like country and stuff though too or.

896
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Not so much anymore, not so much. And how you're

897
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in a very specific mood for it. I

898
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.960
<v Speaker 1>have a very broad taste. I'll listen I'll listen to rap, country,

899
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 1>hip hop, like you name it, but usually it's I

900
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>got to be in a very specific mood for those things.

901
00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:59.760
<v Speaker 1>My general go to is like rock, alternative rock, classic rock,

902
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Iron Maiden's a big one, Billy Talent. I love Billy Talent,

903
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:09.679
<v Speaker 1>System of Down, love Them Disturbed. I mean, the list

904
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>goes on, honestly.

905
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I'm I'm kind of like one of those

906
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:17.480
<v Speaker 2>people that just literally go to Spotify and select a playlist. Yeah,

907
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:21.360
<v Speaker 2>so like based on my mood. So I'm not I

908
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.679
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't have like super favorite bands and stuff.

909
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say so fair enough. Okay, So how did

910
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you get to know each other? Well? This is fine,

911
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 2>we actually got We're probably gonna get to a lot

912
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 2>more of them, but we got a lot of questions

913
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 2>regarding our relationship as such. So do you remember?

914
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Do I remember how we got to know each other?

915
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 2>How did we get to know each other? Ben?

916
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you want me to cover it?

917
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

918
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:47.039
<v Speaker 1>High school? We met in high school eleven pe class yep,

919
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and ever since then, Nicole was hooked. She's like, I

920
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 1>need this man in my life, and I'm like, I

921
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>got you, babe.

922
00:43:55.559 --> 00:44:00.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I actually thought that Ben was incredibly odd. I

923
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 2>thought you were incredibly odd, but you still drigged me,

924
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 2>and here we go, here we are.

925
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:07.199
<v Speaker 1>I definitely was odd, and I probably am still odd

926
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>to this day.

927
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.000
<v Speaker 2>A good although you were also like a lot of

928
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 2>guys and stuff in high school, or assholes, to put

929
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:19.880
<v Speaker 2>it nicely, And you were a very kind You've always

930
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>been very kind, so.

931
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, if you

932
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>each had a beer named after you, what would the

933
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 1>name be? What kind of beer? Your flavor? I love

934
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:33.360
<v Speaker 1>my ip as, I love I love bitter beers.

935
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna let you answer this. Because I don't

936
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 2>drink beer.

937
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I would probably honestly have a beer named after Wicked

938
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 1>and Grim.

939
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that would be fun, a craft beer beer named

940
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:46.239
<v Speaker 2>after Wicked and Grim.

941
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Love love.

942
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.159
<v Speaker 2>I'd have to start drinking beer.

943
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it would just be the Stay Wicked Beer

944
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:57.079
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, or the Wicked Beer or Wicked

945
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:58.159
<v Speaker 1>and Grim Beer, something like that.

946
00:44:58.199 --> 00:44:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Good beer.

947
00:44:58.840 --> 00:44:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

948
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I drink more so ciders than wine, so fair enough.

949
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Why the tiny home?

950
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Why a tiny home? Why not?

951
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Why not?

952
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's just answer that.

953
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Why not? Yeah, if you can tell me why not?

954
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Freedom?

955
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 1>It opened up a lot of freedom for us.

956
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think when we made the decision to do it,

957
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 2>we were very, very busy, and it kind of just

958
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.840
<v Speaker 2>seemed like like our life had a path, but we

959
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't necessarily know if we liked that path. And so

960
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 2>the tiny home has opened up to many paths that

961
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>we can now have a choice to choose between.

962
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:42.519
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Nailed it? Yeah, nailed it. So ever, get out

963
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to Barkerville. Hell, oh, yes.

964
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.280
<v Speaker 2>My gosh, I'm obsessed with Barkerville and I'm going in August.

965
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:49.800
<v Speaker 1>A gold rush true crime story would be cool, Yes,

966
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it would. I've honestly wanted to stay there and like

967
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of maybe do some ghost hunting too. That would

968
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>be super cool.

969
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, not okay with that? Actually I could do like

970
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:04.199
<v Speaker 2>an on location podcast. Why have we not thought about that?

971
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Like we did at the Fairmont? I don't know the

972
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 2>lady in Red what the heck is with us?

973
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 1>But for those who don't know, Barkerville is a little

974
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:11.719
<v Speaker 1>gold rush town.

975
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.719
<v Speaker 2>And it's pretty large actually for the old rush town.

976
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>It is, so it's they got like the actors wallanders

977
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 1>through the streets and all that. There's bakeries and restaurants,

978
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>all this cool stuff you can go see and do.

979
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely crazy. It's right outside a little town called

980
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Wells in British Columbia. Yeah, cool, epic little place.

981
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Like you can literally Okay, I am obsessed with Barkerville.

982
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I could go every year, but I may ben get

983
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 2>sick of it. But you literally just get to like

984
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:42.519
<v Speaker 2>immerse yourself in this other world it is. It's beyond awesome.

985
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, we haven't been for a while. I wouldn't mind

986
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 1>going back. Oh okay, just catching up and binging all

987
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the episodes. Love your vibe and from friendship? Can hear

988
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>love through the banter? Sounds like you two have spent

989
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>half your lives as besties. Did this? Did you start

990
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 1>as friends? I mean yeah, we started out in gym

991
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:04.079
<v Speaker 1>class together getting to know each other a little bit,

992
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and I mean it didn't take as long to start

993
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 1>dating really because really we showed interest in each other

994
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and started chatting on MSN.

995
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, And I actually think that's even like

996
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:16.639
<v Speaker 2>where we exchange or I love you.

997
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't remember who said I love you first?

998
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>You did? Did I yeah on MSN, I'm pretty sure.

999
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:26.480
<v Speaker 2>So funny, good look at us, But I mean we

1000
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:31.039
<v Speaker 2>were just little, little little babies. Yeah, Okay, what is

1001
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>the one thing from from or about your tiny home

1002
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:35.840
<v Speaker 2>that you did not expect to love as much as

1003
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 2>you do? Now?

1004
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect it to feel so much like home.

1005
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Yeah, I know. I it's very comfortable.

1006
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I think I kind of expected to always be a

1007
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.559
<v Speaker 2>little bit cramped and stuff, and it just like is

1008
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:58.880
<v Speaker 2>really cozy and comforting almost.

1009
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't feel a difference from our giant home

1010
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 1>that we had before with five bedrooms, three full bathrooms,

1011
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.880
<v Speaker 1>double garage. Like, it feels no different being in a

1012
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 1>tiny home to that one. Though.

1013
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I think I expected it to be a bit harder,

1014
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.840
<v Speaker 2>not living with so many things, but I haven't really

1015
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:17.960
<v Speaker 2>had a super issue with that.

1016
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 1>The tools is a bit of a pain because I

1017
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 1>don't have like a garage just go tools. That's a

1018
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:23.119
<v Speaker 1>bit of a pain.

1019
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:24.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you actually spent quite a bit of time

1020
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 2>in the garage making things and stuff, so yeah, that's

1021
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a loss for you.

1022
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Hey, yeah, but that that's other than that, it's no

1023
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:34.400
<v Speaker 1>different to me. Yeah, when did you guys know you

1024
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.679
<v Speaker 1>loved each other? Well, like you said, we were in

1025
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>high school?

1026
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Actually, were we still in high school when we said

1027
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 2>when we said that, yes, we were, we were. Yeah,

1028
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Holy heck, uh huh grade twelve though, probably.

1029
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's taking us along. I think.

1030
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:52.480
<v Speaker 2>So, if you could find out the answers to any

1031
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>unsolved case, which one would it be? And why?

1032
00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Yeah, they choose what happened on diatlock paths, So

1033
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:00.599
<v Speaker 1>would I. We already talked about that.

1034
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I we totally agree there.

1035
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two questions, one for me and another for my

1036
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.039
<v Speaker 1>partner Matt, who doesn't have Instagram. So, first of all,

1037
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 1>if each of you were encrypted, which one would you be?

1038
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:16.000
<v Speaker 1>And why? Nicole would one hundred percent be the Mothman

1039
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:18.519
<v Speaker 1>because she stays up so freaking late all the time

1040
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that bad. And I would be Sasquatch because apparently Nicole

1041
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:24.159
<v Speaker 1>thinks I need to wax my back.

1042
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. No no.

1043
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:30.760
<v Speaker 1>And if either of you turned out to be a

1044
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 1>serial killer, what things about each other would make you say?

1045
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh that makes sense now.

1046
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 2>I feel like way better answer with this.

1047
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Again. Nicole staying up so fucking.

1048
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Not even that bad?

1049
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.719
<v Speaker 1>And I do not stay up that late. I go

1050
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>to bed and you you're up. I don't know how

1051
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.280
<v Speaker 1>late you could be out burying a fucking body.

1052
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:51.679
<v Speaker 2>Literally.

1053
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

1054
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'll steep till one in the morning, and you

1055
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:55.639
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm fucking doing working?

1056
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I get up to go to work at

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00:49:58.079 --> 00:49:59.760
<v Speaker 1>like five in the morning, so I don't know what

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00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you're doing when I'm sleeping.

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00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh my gosh. That's actually something I feel like

1060
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I need to think about. What would be things that

1061
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, Oh, yeah, I don't even know.

1062
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.079
<v Speaker 1>You being a photographer saying oh, I'm going to go

1063
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:18.119
<v Speaker 1>location scouting again. How do I not know you're burying

1064
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:18.559
<v Speaker 1>a body?

1065
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a good alimi okay. And then we have another

1066
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.960
<v Speaker 2>one where when you guys met I kind of answer that.

1067
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:30.599
<v Speaker 2>And then someone asked if we ship to Finland like

1068
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Red Bubble, right, so through Red Bubble so wherever they ship.

1069
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you're talking about e merchan on Red Bubble, yeah,

1070
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.360
<v Speaker 1>it would have to be through that website. We just

1071
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>we just upload there and they take care of all

1072
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 1>of it for us. If you're thinking of the mugs

1073
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to be putting on sale soon, yeah.

1074
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah we would. Okay, let's move on to Facebook

1075
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 2>one Facebook questions here. So first one, what TV show

1076
00:50:57.079 --> 00:50:59.840
<v Speaker 2>or movie duo do you both relate to the mouse?

1077
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Jim and Pam from the Office. Not because I

1078
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>think we're like them, but because if you watch The Office,

1079
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:09.880
<v Speaker 1>they're just in their own little world. They don't care

1080
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 1>about what people think around them, And I think that's

1081
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of us with the tiny home and the podcast.

1082
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.320
<v Speaker 1>We're just doing what we want because it makes us happy.

1083
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, because a lot of people think our lifestyle

1084
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:22.559
<v Speaker 2>and such is very odd, right, Yeah.

1085
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 1>So not that I think we're like Jim and Pam.

1086
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:31.199
<v Speaker 1>I think that we're just living like that. What is

1087
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 1>the hardest case for each of you to cover? What

1088
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:38.559
<v Speaker 1>was the hardest case? Junco Faruda and Judith BARSI last

1089
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.360
<v Speaker 1>night as well, or the other night as well. Judith, honestly,

1090
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:45.679
<v Speaker 1>I was having trouble keeping my shit together a little bit,

1091
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think that was the first time I was

1092
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:48.679
<v Speaker 1>really struggling.

1093
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Actually struggle there. I mean, I don't love the barbing

1094
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Ken killers. One was actually a bit hard to.

1095
00:51:56.440 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, those are the toy box kill or two.

1096
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:02.079
<v Speaker 1>That one, Yeah, that really got to me.

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00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I mean all of the above. Yeah, okay,

1098
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.599
<v Speaker 2>so where are we now? Who would play who would

1099
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.679
<v Speaker 2>play you in the movie version of your life? Oh god,

1100
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not good at questions like this.

1101
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, not that I look like some of these people,

1102
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.760
<v Speaker 1>but I've had some people tell me other celebrities I

1103
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 1>look like certain celebrities there and you.

1104
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:29.320
<v Speaker 2>It does go to your head, don't.

1105
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I use it to my advantages sometimes, but I'm I'm

1106
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 1>very well aware it's not the case. Oh funk, what's

1107
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:36.519
<v Speaker 1>his what's his name.

1108
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:38.760
<v Speaker 2>From the Is it from the notebook? Right?

1109
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:39.639
<v Speaker 1>It's his name?

1110
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I should so know this. Holy heck.

1111
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 2>People are screaming at us.

1112
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Gosling.

1113
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. There.

1114
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:49.079
<v Speaker 1>I actually because I used to do a lot of

1115
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.760
<v Speaker 1>cosplay conventions and in one costume, I was wearing buzz

1116
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Lightyear and someone took a picture with me, and on

1117
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that picture on Facebook, someone literally commented on it, seriously,

1118
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, is that Ryan Gossling dressed up as

1119
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Buzzed Lightyear?

1120
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:04.639
<v Speaker 2>And you're a little literally like yeah, yeah.

1121
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Fi. That was before I had a beard, So I

1122
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:11.079
<v Speaker 1>would say, I think Ryan Gosling has to play me.

1123
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, saying, I have absolutely no idea who would have

1124
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 2>to play me?

1125
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, you got to pick.

1126
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:21.599
<v Speaker 2>I have zero answers in my head. You gotta pick

1127
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Reese Witherspoon.

1128
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Reese Witherspoon, you think, hey, just because you went legally,

1129
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:28.280
<v Speaker 1>who is the one?

1130
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:31.400
<v Speaker 2>There was someone that people have told me I look

1131
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:32.920
<v Speaker 2>like before, Renee something.

1132
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Renee's Elwiger. I think so, actually, yeah, that that would

1133
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:39.159
<v Speaker 1>be a good one. Her voice is much different from yours,

1134
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:41.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's kind of got like a similar actually, kind

1135
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.880
<v Speaker 1>of like a squeaky tone to it to think of it.

1136
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.639
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, maybe that. Yeah, there we go.

1137
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:50.400
<v Speaker 1>We just answered that question. Yeah. Uh, you are often

1138
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:52.679
<v Speaker 1>cracking adult beverages in your intro.

1139
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah we are.

1140
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.079
<v Speaker 1>What is the most god awful combination of cocktails that

1141
00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 1>you've had to suffer through? I don't know about you,

1142
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.280
<v Speaker 1>but I'm thinking looking back to one night in shots

1143
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:04.679
<v Speaker 1>in our apartment when we were playing rock band with

1144
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Brock and Sarah.

1145
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 2>It was in our townhouse actually.

1146
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh close enough, Yeah, long story short. We were in

1147
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 1>our early twenties. We were it was like three am.

1148
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:17.360
<v Speaker 1>We were playing rock band.

1149
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Our poor neighbors.

1150
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so two of us were playing rock band

1151
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.960
<v Speaker 1>while the other two were mixing shots, and you had

1152
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:28.760
<v Speaker 1>to drink the shot that was made while you were

1153
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:32.440
<v Speaker 1>playing ross yea, and we started getting mean with the

1154
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 1>shots with including.

1155
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Like mustard in there.

1156
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so including condiments from the fridge and the alcohol,

1157
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:43.559
<v Speaker 1>so mustard, salad, dressing, well whatever it was in the fridge,

1158
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:48.119
<v Speaker 1>that ever was in the fridge and the kitchen was

1159
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.199
<v Speaker 1>free game. Yeah, so that was nasty.

1160
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:53.079
<v Speaker 2>That was pretty nasty.

1161
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1162
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything that frustrates you the most? How about

1163
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:59.639
<v Speaker 2>the other was living in close quarters or doing the

1164
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:00.320
<v Speaker 2>pod cast?

1165
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Your disorganization gets to me sometimes.

1166
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:07.920
<v Speaker 2>The fact that you literally can't have a moment of silence.

1167
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Ever, touche, I can argue that, like if we're.

1168
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Just chilling at home, like some background noise has to

1169
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:17.480
<v Speaker 2>be on.

1170
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I love I love music. What have you learned about

1171
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.280
<v Speaker 1>living in a tiny home and how do you and

1172
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:29.480
<v Speaker 1>how you both adapted to it? That you don't need

1173
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 1>as many things as you think?

1174
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely one hundred percent agree with that, actually, yeah, and

1175
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:35.719
<v Speaker 2>that a home can be anything.

1176
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1177
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Really, I think a lot of people think to make

1178
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:42.119
<v Speaker 2>it or something that they have to thrive for or

1179
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 2>strive for this big house, like kind of what the

1180
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:46.719
<v Speaker 2>American dream, kind of.

1181
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Like the American dream.

1182
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but your American dream can be anything, and it

1183
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:53.679
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to be this white picket fence house.

1184
00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It could be a van down by the river.

1185
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You could literally live in a van and travel

1186
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.480
<v Speaker 2>around your country, which is pretty awesome. Yeah, like think

1187
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:01.639
<v Speaker 2>outside the box sometimes.

1188
00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 1>As the Great Pumba once said, home is where your

1189
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:11.840
<v Speaker 1>rump rests. Is there a case you would not cover.

1190
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but you're planning to cover it? Oh that one

1191
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 2>with the Little Boy?

1192
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh yeah, well we wouldn't. We don't want to

1193
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.159
<v Speaker 1>cover local cases. It's just a little, a little too

1194
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:25.800
<v Speaker 1>close to home.

1195
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:29.400
<v Speaker 2>That's a really good answer. Absolutely, Yeah, no, I agree there.

1196
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:33.400
<v Speaker 2>How did you get into podcasts? Did you listen to

1197
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:35.599
<v Speaker 2>them a lot before deciding to do your own? What

1198
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:38.719
<v Speaker 2>motivated you to be different from the other true crime pods?

1199
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:42.519
<v Speaker 1>I loved content creation and we wanted to do something together.

1200
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and ours is ours a lot different from

1201
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 2>the others.

1202
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. All I know is that we we

1203
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.360
<v Speaker 1>strive to just kind of be ourselves. We kind of

1204
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:53.519
<v Speaker 1>took the idea from more of it a bit because

1205
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.199
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of open banter, right, yeah, and we're like,

1206
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:57.400
<v Speaker 1>if we do that, we can just kind of be

1207
00:56:57.440 --> 00:56:58.320
<v Speaker 1>ourselves and.

1208
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Which is have fun way easier then. I feel like

1209
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:03.679
<v Speaker 2>we probably wouldn't still be doing it if we had

1210
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:06.519
<v Speaker 2>to kind of stick to a script. Yeah, that doesn't

1211
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:08.039
<v Speaker 2>really sound fun to either of us.

1212
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:14.039
<v Speaker 1>I heard you say that you married young, But how

1213
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:19.480
<v Speaker 1>long have you been together. We've been together since high school,

1214
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>like two thousand and six.

1215
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh. I was like, where are you two thousand and five?

1216
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Yo?

1217
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, end of two thousand and five. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1218
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:31.000
<v Speaker 2>so that's a long ass time.

1219
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What's your top three true crime podcasts you listen to?

1220
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Morbid's definitely one of them. They're there.

1221
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Go to Canadian True Crime and Serial Killers for me.

1222
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I do like small Town Dicks, last podcast on

1223
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the left. They're very Oh okay, I like that one too. Actually, yeah,

1224
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:49.239
<v Speaker 1>they're hit and miss for me, but I do go.

1225
00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I keep going back to them though. Timing time again.

1226
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how did you two meet? Sweet chatted about that already. Yeah,

1227
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I like, I love, love love this question.

1228
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, we've talked about this before too.

1229
00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:05.519
<v Speaker 2>What would your order for your what would you order

1230
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:06.440
<v Speaker 2>for your last meal?

1231
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would order, Oh, and you were pretty in

1232
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:13.519
<v Speaker 1>depth with yours. I would either want to do one

1233
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:16.119
<v Speaker 1>of two things. One, I'm going to fucking enjoy this

1234
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:19.079
<v Speaker 1>last meal, so I'm going to get things like steak, chocolate, milk,

1235
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:21.079
<v Speaker 1>like all these individual things that I really like.

1236
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1237
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Or Two I'm going to get something simple that's going

1238
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:24.880
<v Speaker 1>to fuck with people.

1239
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:28.559
<v Speaker 2>And there is if you're a serial killer, you probably

1240
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:29.119
<v Speaker 2>know that route.

1241
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think this is the root. I'd go anyways,

1242
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.320
<v Speaker 1>because there is something that would I would enjoy, that

1243
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>has significance to me and would fuck with people. I

1244
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:42.519
<v Speaker 1>would get a two leader of Canada dry ginger ale, yeah,

1245
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:43.039
<v Speaker 1>and a.

1246
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Bag ad Oh okay, I thought you were gonna maybe

1247
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:45.800
<v Speaker 2>say Ritz cracked.

1248
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, Rich crackers is kind of the other one my

1249
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:50.119
<v Speaker 1>dad grew when I was growing up. He said, yeah,

1250
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:52.239
<v Speaker 1>can of ginger ale and a chunk of bag at

1251
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and he loved that as a snack. Right, So I

1252
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:56.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of I started doing that and I kind of

1253
00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:59.760
<v Speaker 1>reminisce about that, and then as I evolved, I sometimes

1254
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:02.039
<v Speaker 1>will swap out the bag ap for Ritz crackers, right.

1255
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:04.599
<v Speaker 1>So I would probably go to bag out though, just

1256
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>because it's that nostalgia factor.

1257
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you have to do better than that,

1258
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Like you'd have to order a few other things too.

1259
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:14.559
<v Speaker 1>No, that's the thing. It's simple. It's like, what the fuck? Why?

1260
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:16.760
<v Speaker 2>What a weirdo? This is his last meal?

1261
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>This is what you want exactly. But I would still

1262
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:19.360
<v Speaker 1>enjoy it.

1263
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would definitely go in the past route. I'm

1264
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:25.840
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with Vedicinio Fredo and I would want about as

1265
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:28.800
<v Speaker 2>much shrimp as you could possibly put on top of

1266
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 2>that nice and I would just go to town fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what about what's the first true crime story that

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<v Speaker 1>wants you getting to host a true crime podcast? For me,

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00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:41.079
<v Speaker 1>the Outlok past has always been like up there for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's one per se it. We

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<v Speaker 2>kind of chatted about this previously about it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>how we kind of grew up, right, there was all

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00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.519
<v Speaker 2>these things like Google Bumps and are you Afraid of

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00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the Dark and all these and Dateline and just like

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00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 2>all these shows that you watch that made you.

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<v Speaker 1>Interested in the saying one hundred percent yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if there if I'd say there's one,

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01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:06.199
<v Speaker 2>or just like how how I grew up, I was

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with goosebumps.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, oh so was I.

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01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're getting down here now. We just have our

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01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:17.239
<v Speaker 2>our Facebook or our Instagram stories and then we're done.

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<v Speaker 2>We're done.

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01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:20.719
<v Speaker 1>My laptop's about to die here too, So you might

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01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:22.599
<v Speaker 1>be reading some of these questions here.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of them I think are similar.

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<v Speaker 1>So, okay, what has been your favorite episode? Again? We

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<v Speaker 1>kind of covered that a little bit. Yeah, which case

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01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:35.400
<v Speaker 1>will forever haunt you? We covered that as well. Yeah,

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01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 1>what was the first murder or mystery you heard that

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01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:41.119
<v Speaker 1>piqued your interest in researching more? For me? Do youall

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01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:42.840
<v Speaker 1>look past? We kind of covered that a bit too.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone specific you want to note on that

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01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:48.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know.

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01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:52.519
<v Speaker 2>The picked in one for sure, and I put that

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<v Speaker 2>one off for a while. That's like a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's when we were holding off on one to

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01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:59.239
<v Speaker 1>do it justice, right, Yeah, because we knew it's at

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01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:03.159
<v Speaker 1>least two parts. Yeah, knowing what you know now about podcasting,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything you would change not.

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<v Speaker 2>To do it? Just kidding, just kidding, I'm just kidding, Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the time I don't think I ever anticipated would take

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01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:19.679
<v Speaker 2>quite as much time, But that wouldn't make me prevent

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01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:20.519
<v Speaker 2>from starting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think the way we do it, we

1306
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.199
<v Speaker 1>did it starting out exactly how we wanted to do it,

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01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to be ourselves and just have fun. Yeah, so I

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01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:29.280
<v Speaker 1>don't think I would change anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Okay, the next one we already answered. So

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<v Speaker 2>after that, are you going to be bringing Jacko back

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01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 2>again this Halloween?

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent? If you are taking part in the

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<v Speaker 1>Wicked giveaway right now, Jacko has actually been involved in that,

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01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.679
<v Speaker 1>And if you're over on Patreon, Jacko has been making

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01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.559
<v Speaker 1>appearances over there. One of the things he actually did

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<v Speaker 1>over there is he he did a full reading of

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<v Speaker 1>Edgar Allen's Poe the Raven.

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<v Speaker 2>Riich was pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually. Yeah, so jack will forever be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast and he is definitely coming back for Halloween. Yes,

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01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 1>how do we meet? Of course we went over that

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01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:11.119
<v Speaker 1>high school. If you could stop only one of the

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<v Speaker 1>killers that you've covered so far, which one would it be?

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<v Speaker 1>And why? So I'm going to assume stop them before

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<v Speaker 1>they kill anybody. Yep, I'm going to say whoever had

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<v Speaker 1>the highest number, potentially Rodney al Kala. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>would say him because I think he had estimated of

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the one hundred and forty or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how many people could you say? Right exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>most gruesome case you've ever covered.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's Junco. Yeah, though there's

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01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:42.760
<v Speaker 1>some other ones that are definitely up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, remember there was that one too. Gosh, I'm just

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01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:48.760
<v Speaker 2>looking it up really really quick. This was wild. It

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01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:54.719
<v Speaker 2>was the murder of Elizabeth Olton where it was like

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<v Speaker 2>the what was it? The nine year old girl went

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01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:02.360
<v Speaker 2>missing and it was this older sister, the friend's older sister,

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01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:08.000
<v Speaker 2>who just like wanted to murder someone. Yeah, that's crazy,

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01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:12.800
<v Speaker 2>crazy young age. What when people do weird shit like

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01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:15.239
<v Speaker 2>that or bad shit like that? A young age blows

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01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:15.639
<v Speaker 2>my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not a question, but a challenge record one episode

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01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:22.079
<v Speaker 1>without swearing. Oh see, I don't know if we could

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01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:22.480
<v Speaker 1>do that.

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01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Because that would be very fun.

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01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:26.280
<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be very fun, and we're kind of going

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01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:26.960
<v Speaker 1>against who.

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01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:28.800
<v Speaker 2>We are, you know, and it would be it would

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01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:30.000
<v Speaker 2>be an interesting challenge.

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01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:32.840
<v Speaker 1>It would be a challenge. It would be a challenge

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01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:36.360
<v Speaker 1>because I fucking love swearing. I fucking love it. Bud.

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01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow. If a toy company made an action figure of you,

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01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:44.599
<v Speaker 2>what three items would it come with.

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01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:49.480
<v Speaker 1>It'd probably come with some sort of can that we'd

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01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:52.519
<v Speaker 1>be able to open. Microphones, oh.

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01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Say whine, but yeah, like alcohol, microphones and a.

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<v Speaker 1>Husky and a husky.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just oh yeah, I love it. I would

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01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:03.280
<v Speaker 2>be buying all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a we just like that's us. What

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01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:12.320
<v Speaker 1>case keeps you up at night? And why again? Going back?

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<v Speaker 1>Junco Fruda is one of the Rodney al callas. One

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I had said the Richardson's the deeper you

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01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:21.639
<v Speaker 2>dive into a case, I feel like for me anyway,

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01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:23.840
<v Speaker 2>that the more impact it has on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like Ketchup or Dill pickle old Dutch chips?

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01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Both being Canadian Ketchup chips hold a place in our heart,

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01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:34.039
<v Speaker 1>same with all dressed right, we like.

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01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 2>We actually like chips.

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<v Speaker 1>We do. Chips are awesome, Chips are delicious and not

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<v Speaker 1>very nutritious.

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01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:40.679
<v Speaker 2>Not nutritious.

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<v Speaker 1>Would would be your favorite though? Between Ketchup and Dill

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01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Ketchup Ketchup? If you could only have one type of

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01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:48.800
<v Speaker 1>chip for the rest of your life, what would it be?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever we were eating tonight, those Miss Vicki's dijon. Yes,

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01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:00.920
<v Speaker 2>they're so good. Yeah, they are good actually has good

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01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:01.840
<v Speaker 2>flavors of chips.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, I'd probably go with like the

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01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:05.519
<v Speaker 1>arebas chips.

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01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, like a dorrito kind of chip bit.

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01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, they're like Dorito's, but they're better.

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01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have more flavor.

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01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Actually they're thicker too, they're heavier.

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01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:16.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look at us, we're like chip connerswords.

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<v Speaker 1>Chip commis, sewers, pinkies in the air, ladies and gentlemen

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<v Speaker 1>when you're eating those chips, okay.

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01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:23.119
<v Speaker 2>And then that one was why do you guys start

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01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 2>out decide to do a podcast? We answer that? And

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<v Speaker 2>the final final question actually know there's two because one

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01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to write down. Will you ever do the

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01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Marilyn Moreau case?

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01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:36.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've never actually thought about.

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01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Doing it neither, and I actually love the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's some celebrity cases we have on our list,

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01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:47.280
<v Speaker 1>like I want to do Harry Houdini's eventually doing Bruce

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01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Lee would actually be another one going. Of course, you

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01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:54.320
<v Speaker 1>know the Manson case. That's another one. But Marilyn Monroe.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought of adding that to the list. I

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01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:56.360
<v Speaker 1>think we should.

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01:05:56.480 --> 01:06:00.719
<v Speaker 2>We should. I think that would be very interesting research. Actually, yeah,

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01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:02.880
<v Speaker 2>And then the other question that came in was just

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<v Speaker 2>how's tiny home living?

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01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:07.840
<v Speaker 1>It's tiny, Yeah.

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01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:11.159
<v Speaker 2>But it's good. Yeah, it's very good. I would say initially,

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01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:14.079
<v Speaker 2>if you ever okay, i'm gonna say, if you ever

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01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:16.320
<v Speaker 2>think that you're going to go into tiny living, I

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01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:22.559
<v Speaker 2>definitely recommend it, but expect a pretty large would you say,

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01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:26.559
<v Speaker 2>learning curve transition? Oh yeah, definitely, because the shows that

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01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:28.400
<v Speaker 2>you watch and stuff, they make it seem like it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty easy, peasy and stuff.

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01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:31.119
<v Speaker 1>But it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough.

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01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, if you pay close attention to those shows where

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01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you're watching like HGTV and stuff, pay really close attention

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<v Speaker 1>to what sort of personal items you see in the

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01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:43.880
<v Speaker 1>tiny home while they're going through it. If you don't

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01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 1>see any personal items I eat, jacket, hanging up pictures

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01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.719
<v Speaker 1>on the wall, chances are it's a stage tiny home.

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01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Look for the ones where there's personal effects and affairs

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01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:57.199
<v Speaker 1>and things, flowers and the counter or something might be

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01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.519
<v Speaker 1>there because they're setting the stage. If you see a

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01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:02.519
<v Speaker 1>book or something sitting there, someone could be reading it,

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01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:06.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe your laptop, things that are in use. Yeah, that's

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01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:08.039
<v Speaker 1>going to give you a much better perspective on what

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<v Speaker 1>it's really like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then honestly too. At a lot of those ones

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01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that are on the shows, they've been in their tiny

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01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:16.679
<v Speaker 2>home for nine months a year kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, like now I'm saying like I absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>love tiny home living. But if you ask me like

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01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:23.840
<v Speaker 2>two three months and I was be like, holy shit,

1434
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:27.440
<v Speaker 2>we made a big mistake because it wasn't easy at first.

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01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:28.400
<v Speaker 1>It's an adjustment period.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also because we were having some issues with

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01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:32.960
<v Speaker 2>our tiny home and stuff too, which wasn't helping. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>now I would say like I absolutely love it. I

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01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:35.480
<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:38.119
<v Speaker 2>The only thing is I would maybe love it a

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01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 2>bit more if we weren't in Prince George only because

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01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the winter's like, when you're tiny I'm living, you want

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01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:45.079
<v Speaker 2>to spend a lot of time outside and the winters

1445
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:46.840
<v Speaker 2>are pretty harsh here. And then when it's not winter,

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01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:49.599
<v Speaker 2>we have pretty bad mosquitoes, So like you can't spend

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01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:52.199
<v Speaker 2>a ton of time where we're living.

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01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're in a bad mosquito.

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01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you can't spend as much time outside as

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01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:01.159
<v Speaker 2>you'd like to perhaps, So yeah that's our Q and A.

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01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had some really good questions, actually, some good

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01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:05.800
<v Speaker 1>ones that really made us think.

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01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a lot that was great, that was fun.

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01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm definitely going to be thinking on some of

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01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.559
<v Speaker 1>these for like the next week to come. I know.

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01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hmm, I'm going to be asking people I

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01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:17.600
<v Speaker 1>work with what would your last meal be if you

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01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:20.880
<v Speaker 1>were on death row? And I'll get sideway his looks.

1459
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I know it, but it'll be worth it totally.

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01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a way to start.

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01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:26.479
<v Speaker 1>A conversation the safety guy at work, if you were

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01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:29.399
<v Speaker 1>on death row? What would your last meal be? So

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01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:30.720
<v Speaker 1>this is a safety meeting.

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01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Man, it looks like your gears are really turning right now.

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01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Well they kind of are.

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01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So anyway, thanks so much for giving us all

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01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:40.720
<v Speaker 2>the questions and wanting to get to know us better

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01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:44.199
<v Speaker 2>and just being here and being you like, we appreciate

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01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:44.920
<v Speaker 2>all of you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it means an incredible amount. We can't even begin

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01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:51.720
<v Speaker 1>to communicate how much it means, because I don't think

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01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Wicked and Grim would be here today if we did

1473
01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:57.560
<v Speaker 1>have the support that we currently have. So thank you

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01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:00.680
<v Speaker 1>so much. It means so much to us, it really does.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to keep talking because I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>one more thing. We actually got a sweet review that

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to read.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh did we got a new review? Oh sweet, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's bumping down that one if Nicole is so annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the one prior to that was so I yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I want a couple. I mean, both of us have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten a few.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand if you don't like someone's podcast, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're seriously going to leave a review because you

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<v Speaker 1>just don't like someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't judge someone's like character.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, this is just like if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>hot minute to give us a review, like, seriously love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes our day. Okay, So this one just came

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<v Speaker 2>in on the fifth and it says amazing on a

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<v Speaker 2>scale of one to ten, one hundred thousand. I love

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast. It is a great podcast, and Ben and

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole are awesome. Most true crime podcasts I would imagine

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<v Speaker 2>would be very dark and sad and awful, but they

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<v Speaker 2>keep it light with plenty of jokes and laughter and

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<v Speaker 2>fun conversations in between to make it easier to take in.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep up the great work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like I just when I go on there

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<v Speaker 2>and see these new reviews of it, just like warms

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<v Speaker 2>my heart. Well, thank you for taking that time super appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you so much. And it's actually it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feels good that someone realizes we're trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>these conversations a little bit lighthearted, easier to digest. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of it too, is that it takes away

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<v Speaker 1>some of that power that those perpetrators had, taking away

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<v Speaker 1>the fear mongering aspect kind of I don't know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pays it back to the victim in my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent yeah, one percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can leave a review, that would absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>mean the world to us. If not totally cool, we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you either way. Thank you for being here, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for the questions today. If you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>check us out on our Instagram, Facebook, all the social

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<v Speaker 1>media down below. If you want to hit us on Patreon,

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<v Speaker 1>you're more than welcome to join us over there again

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<v Speaker 1>down below. But if not, you want to listen, we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that just the same.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you, thank you, and thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>and until our next episode, stay Wicked,
