WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:03.839 We continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on a five 2 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:06.639 to seventy LA Sports giving away those tickets Chargers and 3 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:09.359 Ravens giving them away this hour. The game is Monday 4 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:11.279 night and so far, we'll give you a cue to call. 5 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:13.439 And if you missen any of the show today, Dylan 6 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:15.720 ornandis I thought really did a good job during the 7 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:18.399 one o'clock hour. Yeah, you did. Going back, listen to 8 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:20.640 the podcast. Kevin puts it up the minute we get 9 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:23.719 off the air. Get the iHeartRadio app. Download the app. 10 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:26.079 If you don't have it, you should because you can 11 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:29.000 check out what we said. The podcast is there, and 12 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:30.559 if you have it, you can stream the show wherever 13 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:32.840 you go live. Put us in your pocket, keep us 14 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:35.520 close to your heart. We want to feel your heart 15 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:40.799 beat and we will just put the phone in your pocket, 16 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:46.439 your shirt pocket, put on your earphones, walk around and 17 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:51.200 listen to us. Your chest protector, that's right, that's right. 18 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:55.439 I'm still picking you and that oversized chest protector at nine. 19 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:59.840 No, I got it. I understand. Yeah, I hear you. Okay, 20 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.960 So you want to go to spring training. Camel Back 21 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:06.480 Ranch is right around the corner, and it's a great 22 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:09.200 place to watch a baseball game. We don't have to 23 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:11.200 regale you with the tales of what we did in 24 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:14.680 the past there. But it was fun. And by the way, 25 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:16.159 camel Back Ranch has the best plan. 26 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:17.599 You want to You don't want to go back to 27 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:20.560 the trip we took. No, you don't want to do that. 28 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.879 No, you mean the best trip they've ever had, the 29 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:26.599 best one. Is that what you're talking about. Yes, that's 30 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.560 what I'm talking about. You're talking about the one where 31 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:31.599 you grabbed the microphone on the plane and started making announcements. Yes, 32 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:36.560 I did, and they loved it that trip. Yes, that's 33 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:39.400 where we went out to stay with everybody. Yes, we 34 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:42.280 went out to dinner with everyone. The plane ride. 35 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.480 They wished that plane ride was like six hours as 36 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:48.280 opposed to an hour to Phoenix because we were having 37 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:49.879 so much fun on the plane. 38 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:53.799 Yeah, they wanted it to keep going and keep circling. Right. 39 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:56.040 So the trip where they had the best trip ever. 40 00:01:56.879 --> 00:01:59.920 And the next year we said, boy, we're so excited. Uh, 41 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:05.120 when's the trip And we never went again, never went 42 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:10.000 to spring training again. But that's what we learned. And 43 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:13.000 if you go to Camelback Ranch you probably will experience this. 44 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:17.240 That is the best grass you'll ever feel. Oh yeah, 45 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:19.520 I don't care where you go, what grass you walk on. 46 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:24.240 If you like grass, go to camel Back Ranch, yes, 47 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:25.919 because that'll be dawn. 48 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:29.639 There, and take a nap and you will be floating 49 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:30.919 in the clouds. 50 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:33.319 If you could. If you could, and you can't, don't 51 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:35.599 do it. You'll be arrested. If you could just take 52 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:37.759 off all your clothes and roll around in that grass. Yeah, 53 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:41.560 you would be the happiest person. You would. It's that good. 54 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:46.919 The grass is that good. I'm serious. It's very nurturing, 55 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:52.360 it's very warm, it's good grass. It's great grass. 56 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:56.280 It's great Grass's great grass, and it just echoes the fact. 57 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:58.159 I mean you grew up there, Fred, Well, you know, 58 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:00.400 grew up in Detroit but didn't move to Zona, so 59 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:03.479 you spend a lot of time there. I grew up 60 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:07.039 in Arizona and know how the grass can be very, 61 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:12.400 very good. I remember I remember being at USC And 62 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:15.000 you know one thing you do is you rate the 63 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:18.240 stadiums and the fields that you play on when you 64 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:20.639 go play them, especially teams that you play every single year, 65 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.520 like at that time when there was a pack ten 66 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:27.719 conference and back twelve conference. But when there was a conference. 67 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:30.680 You knew those teams and those places that you played 68 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:35.039 every single year, and every single year we looked forward well, 69 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:37.159 I guess it was every other year because you didn't 70 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:40.080 play them every year there. Every other year you look 71 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:47.439 forward to playing at ASU, Arizona State University, and Arizona, 72 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:50.719 you know, the U of A and Tucson because you 73 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:54.400 knew the grass was going to be unbelievable and it 74 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:56.719 was a fast track. You always used to say that 75 00:03:56.719 --> 00:04:00.520 that's a fast track. Oh, that's a fast track. Arizona 76 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.840 State and and and Arizona was always that was a 77 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:07.280 fast track. We love playing on that grass because it 78 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:11.159 gave you everything. It was like carpet and it was 79 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:14.120 so manicured so well, and the same thing with camelback ran. 80 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:16.879 It just took that to a whole different level because 81 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:18.360 you did you feel like you want to just lay 82 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:19.279 down there and take a nap. 83 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.399 So just a little bit better than the silver dome there, 84 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:22.560 Rudney a little bit, just like. 85 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:24.639 A little bit Kevin a little bit better. 86 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:26.879 Basically, just painted the concrete, I believe. 87 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.920 That's all they did. They painted the concrete. 88 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:34.879 You know, it'd be a concert the night before and 89 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:39.040 you know they rolled that that that half an inch 90 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.920 turf that they would roll down on top of that concrete. 91 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:45.720 Sometimes there would be beer bottles underneath the concrete, I 92 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:46.959 mean underneath. 93 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:47.600 The turf that they rolled down. 94 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:50.439 They forgot to take the beer bottles out and the 95 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:53.600 bottle caps that were underneath that turf that they rolled out. 96 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.800 If you got hit at the Silver Dome on that 97 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:01.040 concrete turf, yeah, and you went down, did you realize, 98 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:01.839 Oh you felt it. 99 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:03.920 You felt it like you know, like Vic used to 100 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:05.759 talk about playing football in the street. 101 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:08.759 Yeah, it was that. It was that. 102 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:12.360 It was that hard, like there was it was no 103 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.439 cushion whatsoever falling on that turf. 104 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:16.800 Listen. 105 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:18.639 Then on top of that, it was the worst turf 106 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:20.959 because it would burn you if you fell down on 107 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:25.399 it too, So it was like synthetic so plastic basically. 108 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.639 And then and once you fell down on it, it 109 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:32.079 would slide in would burn your skin, so you would 110 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:35.839 have all kinds of rug burns on your skin after 111 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:36.680 every single game. 112 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:42.000 Yeah, not good. Standards were very low back then, all right, 113 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.160 But you brought something up a second ago, and I 114 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.480 just want to say this, we don't have to elaborate 115 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.279 on it, but I'd like to get it out there. Okay, Oh, well, 116 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:51.600 you know you talked about Arizona State and Arizona in 117 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:55.040 the grass in both fields. Please do not bring up 118 00:05:55.040 --> 00:06:02.000 the dirty tea again. Please don't do that. Why I 119 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:04.759 love the dirty tea. The dirty tea is something special, 120 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:10.639 The dirty tea, dirty tea is something special. No, when 121 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:12.720 you grew up in Phoenix, you you didn't like the 122 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.800 dirty tea, the dirt. 123 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.040 No, it was the dirty tea until I heard it 124 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:21.800 from Alex Verdugo when he came to become a Dodger 125 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:25.079 and he talked about the dirty tea. Or actually Justin 126 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:28.560 Turner told me, Yeah, Erdugo tells me from the same 127 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:30.680 hometown as you, the dirty tea. I was like, what 128 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.240 are you talking about the dirty Justin what are you 129 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:37.040 talking about dirty tea? Yeah, Verdugo says, it's the dirty 130 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:41.040 tea Tucson. It's called the dirty tea. Like, oh okay, 131 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:42.759 But then I got it. I was like, yeah, I 132 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.240 guess it is the dirty Yeah, right, exactly, dirty. 133 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.759 Yeah. It doesn't take a lot of thought to understand 134 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:50.800 what the dirty tea is. Yes, when it way back 135 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:54.399 to Kendleback Ranch and the grass. Dodger spring training right 136 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.279 around the corner. Can you it's seriously right around the corner. 137 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:01.519 It's unbelievable. So if the Dodgers win the World Series, 138 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:03.360 and what does that mean, it means it's gonna cost 139 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:05.759 you little more now to go to spring training. So 140 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:08.279 the deal is this, if you can't afford to go 141 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:13.600 to Dodger Stadium, spring training is a fun alternative. And also, 142 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:16.319 if you get a chance, if you if you care 143 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:18.319 and you get a chance, not a bad idea to 144 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:21.120 spend a couple of days in Phoenix and go to 145 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:25.120 multiple games because that really is fun. Now, granted, you're 146 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:27.920 really not gonna see anybody. You only see a bunch 147 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:29.319 of lot You'll see a lot of guys trying to 148 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:31.319 make the team. The starters will play a little bit, 149 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:37.040 but it's you're really close to the players and it's 150 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:39.240 a good time. I used to love it when I 151 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:41.040 lived there. I went to spring training every day. I 152 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.720 thought it was the best. So here's what it's gonna 153 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:50.000 cost you this year. Four games. If you want to 154 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:51.759 set on the grass, and that's fun to set on 155 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:55.639 the outfield grass, it really is. It's gonna cost you 156 00:07:55.920 --> 00:08:00.800 between twenty nine and eighty one dollars twenty nine and 157 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:04.000 eighty one dollars per game if you sit on the 158 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:09.879 outfield grass. H Okay, my mistake. That's what seats are 159 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.000 going to cost you. That was my bad seats. If 160 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:14.759 you don't want to set on the grass, between twenty 161 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.800 nine and eighty one dollars seat, and really for spring training, 162 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:21.360 there's no bad seat in the house, right if you 163 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:24.279 want to sit on the grass. It's forty to fifty 164 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.279 three dollars on weekends, twenty five to forty two dollars 165 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:32.519 on week days. That's what it's going to cost. Uh. 166 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:36.200 You know they share the facility with the Chicago White Sox. Yes, 167 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:39.000 so the days the Dodgers don't play at Camel Back Ranch, 168 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:42.159 the White Sox will. And it says you can get 169 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:44.759 a seat right behind home plate for a nickel, So 170 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:46.919 you know that might be a pretty good I. 171 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:49.720 Don't believe that's true, Fred, Maybe you just made that 172 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:50.080 one up. 173 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:52.840 Nickel. Yes, I made that up, but I made it 174 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:53.200 up to. 175 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:55.240 The joke the White Sox will pay you to come 176 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:56.240 to the game. Is that what it is? 177 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:58.919 Yeah? What are you trying to say right there it is. Yeah, well, 178 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.639 given how awful they work, and see Miguel Vargas in 179 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.399 the dugout and bring training off the crime. 180 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:08.600 Oh he has to see the Dodger players all around 181 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:09.799 town all day every day. 182 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:11.519 God, you know. 183 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:14.159 So so the days walking out to the facility where 184 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:16.159 they're working out, you know, they each got their own 185 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:18.799 locker room, and you know, you come into the main 186 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:21.759 you know, main door, and Dodgers go right and then 187 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:25.080 White Sox go left, and you know, Miguel comes in 188 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:28.840 and he's pulling up and he's like watching the Dodger 189 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:30.600 guys go to the right and he's got to go 190 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:31.240 to the left. 191 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:34.679 Yeah. And then when the workout's over, you know they're 192 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:36.679 all because the end of the workouts at about the 193 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:40.120 same time, they're all congregating, you know, they're they're leaving now, 194 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:44.480 you know. And Freddie Freeman says to uh, Miggi Rojas, 195 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:46.799 hey man, you want to get a bite to eat. 196 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:49.720 And at that moment, Miguel Vargas is coming out of 197 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:54.080 the White Sox clubhouse, right mm hmmm. So Freddie says, hey, Miggi, 198 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:57.200 you want to get a bite to eat, and Vargus 199 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:58.320 go sure, Freddy goes No. 200 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:08.960 Not you mag Rojas, God you wrong, Miggy wrong, Miggy 201 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:13.759 cold blooded, Fred cold blooded. 202 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:17.399 But it was funny. No, yes, it was. Okay. So 203 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:22.480 when we come back, really interesting news involving Charles Barkley 204 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.000 and the TNT guys. It's really interesting. We're going to 205 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:33.840 talk about it. Oh, yes, come on on a Tuesday. 206 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:39.440 Yes, we have taken a few liberties and tangents on 207 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:44.080 the road to get in here. Today. I'm looking at 208 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:47.399 Fred Rogan and his catcher's outfit. I call it an 209 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:50.320 outfit because it's not a uniform. It's an outfit the. 210 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.039 Way I'm gonna try to find No, I'm gonna try 211 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:58.399 to find a picture, please, because I know. I know. 212 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:00.480 It's the oversized. 213 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:06.320 Chest protector and the oversized shin guards and the oversized 214 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:07.840 helmet with the mask. 215 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:09.399 Let me ask you this. 216 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:12.279 Did you have the helmet connected to the face mask 217 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:16.039 or did you have a hat backwards with a face 218 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:16.759 mask over it. 219 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:18.960 I had a helmet backwards. 220 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:23.960 You had a helmet, Okay, so you had the helmet. 221 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:27.759 It was it was like the plastic helmet that you 222 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:33.720 turned backwards. It wasn't connected. No, okay, I was old school, 223 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:36.120 old school. Okay, yeah, you. 224 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:38.519 Didn't do the Yogi he didn't do the Yogi bear, 225 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.720 just like cloth hat. No, no, no, no, no. I 226 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:42.240 had the helmet. 227 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:45.200 Okay, you had the helmet, but not a not a 228 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.399 connected helmet. Let's they started doing back in that day. 229 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:51.600 No, I didn't come on. What do you think I am. 230 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:54.440 I was out there gutting it out, man. I wasn't 231 00:11:54.480 --> 00:12:04.799 wearing that kind of stuff. I was going real yeah, 232 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:07.600 all right, So I think this is pretty interesting if 233 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:10.480 you haven't heard about it. You know, with the NBA 234 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:16.279 switching partners after this season, tn T was out. It's Amazon, 235 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:21.960 NBC and ESPN, ABC. So tn T was out. What 236 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.600 did that mean? That was the end of the best 237 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.960 studio show in sports television by far the end. Everybody 238 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:32.279 tries to copy it. Nobody can because you can't create chemistry. 239 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:34.639 People have it or they don't, and that group does. 240 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.480 And it centered around Charles Barkley. But I would tell 241 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:41.080 you Ernie Johnson's role as is as important as Charles Barkley. 242 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:46.799 Ernie Ernie Johnson as good as it gets in the business. Okay, 243 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:50.840 So anyway, when TNT lost the NBA, that was it. 244 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:53.600 For them. I thought, oh my god, they're gonna put 245 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:55.720 him on the hockey pregame show because they have hockey 246 00:12:56.759 --> 00:12:59.080 or they have Nascar. I mean, what are they gonna 247 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:02.200 do with them? As they ended up doing. Never heard 248 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:09.559 of it before. ESPN has agreed to license inside the 249 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:16.399 NBA the Turner Show beginning next season, so before ESPN 250 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.720 games you're going to see the Turner guys on TV. Now, 251 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:23.000 the Turner guys are still going to do it from Atlanta, 252 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:27.000 and they're still going to produce their show, so it 253 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:31.399 won't even be produced by ESPN. They're simply going to 254 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:36.399 take the show and move it and let the Turner 255 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:42.200 guys do their thing, which I think is brilliant, brilliant. 256 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:44.399 With all due respect to the people that work on 257 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:48.519 the ESPN pregame shows, they're not even close to those guys. 258 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:55.120 Actually nobody is. But they're the gold standard of basketball 259 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:58.960 and the gold standard of studio shows. The only thing 260 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:03.039 close to that truly are the Fox shows. 261 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.960 For football NFL Sunday Fox Yeah, Yeah, because they get it. 262 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:11.000 Yeah, and even the show before that were Carrissa hosts. 263 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.840 That's where they're grooming the guys to move up to 264 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:17.679 the other show that's pretty good too. They just get it, 265 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:22.600 they understand it, and Turner wrote the book on it. 266 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:25.679 So that show is going to move and it's going 267 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:30.519 to be licensed by ESPN from Turner. So really, in 268 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:34.279 the big picture, what does that mean. That means Channel 269 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:39.960 four would license Rob Fukazaki sportscast to run on Channel four. 270 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:44.559 That's what it means. They are licensing it from another company. 271 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:49.279 So what happens to the current ESPN people, Well, the 272 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.639 Turner guys are going to do big events. You know, 273 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:55.960 they'll do the finals opening Sunday, and I think they'll 274 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:57.679 do all the games after the first of the year 275 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:02.799 on Saturdays when ABC has Game, the ESPN people will 276 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:06.440 do the other games, their pregame show, their studio show. 277 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:09.279 So what will happen is they'll come on and do 278 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:12.200 whatever they're gonna do, and then the Turner guys will 279 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:15.799 come on and really do it. Now the ESPN people, 280 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:17.759 this is gonna change things a little bit for them 281 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.919 because the way ESPN works it's so commercial driven that 282 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:27.279 when you would see the crew that did it last 283 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:30.519 year do it at halftime of the NBA Finals, they'd 284 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.639 be on for like three minutes because they were all commercials. 285 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:36.360 They can't do that with the tn T guys. They're 286 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:39.279 gonna have let them go and be them. I think 287 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:42.679 it's fascinating. It's never been done before, but it shows 288 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:43.639 how things have changed. 289 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:53.799 Yeah, yeah, it almost kind of you know, reminds me 290 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:56.200 a little bit. I don't know if you remember when 291 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.799 and there was that big shakeup where Fox was coming 292 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.360 on board, right, Fox was they had the money and 293 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:05.480 Murdoch took over and he's like, we're going to spend 294 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.440 the money and where we where where do we spend 295 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:10.720 the money? We gotta we gotta capture sports. And they 296 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:14.360 went after the NFL and they went hard and they 297 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:16.440 got them and they stole it from I don't want 298 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.360 to they stole it, but CBS. They took the NFC 299 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:31.279 from CBS, right, remember that, And they also took the 300 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:37.600 CBS talent to Fox. James Brown, Brown, Bradshaw, they took 301 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.759 they took Madden in summer role, who were the CBS 302 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:45.279 number one crew, and they brought him to Fox became 303 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:46.600 the Fox number one crew. 304 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:47.360 You remember that. 305 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:51.320 Yeah, So it was you know, kind of reminds me 306 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:55.320 of that where they saw the talent where CBS had 307 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:58.080 the talent in terms of their on air personalities, and 308 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:00.960 we're going to take them as we take over the NFL, 309 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.160 and we're going to bring these guys on board. 310 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:07.119 And and they brought them on board. 311 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:09.000 And and and obviously they took it to a different 312 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:13.160 level because when Madden and Summer all, you know, became 313 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:15.799 the number one guys at Fox, they were they took 314 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:17.039 it to a different level. 315 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:18.000 Than they had it at CBS. 316 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:20.559 Same thing with with JB and there in the pregame 317 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:22.240 show JB. 318 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:23.920 They went to Fox, they gave them, I guess they 319 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:24.759 gave more leeway. 320 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.559 And it was more, it was more, it was younger, 321 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.319 it was hipper, it was all of those things. And 322 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:32.720 they brought that talent over there and it just off 323 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:35.359 to the races, which they did. It feels like the 324 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:37.960 same thing that they're doing right here is that they 325 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:40.640 understand that the talent level at T and T is 326 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.880 we don't want to break that up and and they. 327 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:46.799 Do have the best. So the question is what happens 328 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:49.519 to that. 329 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.880 That rival crew that worked at ESPN that is now 330 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.480 taking a back seat to Charles Kenny and and and 331 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:59.440 Ernie and and Uh and Shaq and those guys what 332 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:01.880 happens to those guys and how do they feel about it? 333 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:06.000 Well, they feel terrible. I can promise you they feel awful. 334 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:08.720 They're still gonna be on. I think they're gonna be 335 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:09.960 on before these guys. 336 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.160 So they're doing the they're doing the pre pre show 337 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:17.799 and then when they do, they do the off off 338 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:19.039 games off nights. 339 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:32.519 They'll do that. And I wonder how much the NBA. 340 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:30.880 And all those you know that that crew, right, And 341 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:33.960 so they're they're gonna they're taking a back seat to 342 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:35.279 the other guys. 343 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:39.079 Yeah, that's gonna be interesting. Yeah, well they're they're getting paid, 344 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:41.880 and they're paid to do what they tell them to do. 345 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.480 Yeah, paid is one thing again, but it's it's all 346 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.839 about quality and you're doing your job and being the 347 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:50.720 best and being at the top of your game, and 348 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:53.240 now you've got to take a back seat to somebody 349 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.680 coming over taking your spot. Yep, that's not an easy thing. 350 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.240 I don't care how much you getting paid. That's not 351 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.039 that's not an easy thing to kind of just do 352 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:01.519 or take. 353 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:05.680 No, it's awful. Of course, the alternative is they take 354 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:07.119 your spot, you don't get paid. 355 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:12.400 Yeah, I mean everything, Fred, But to say, oh, they're 356 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:13.960 getting paid, so they should be okay with it. 357 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:18.000 No they're not. Well, no, I promise you they're not. 358 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:20.599 But I wonder if the NBA had anything to do 359 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:24.519 with this, because if you remember, Warner Brothers shut the 360 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:30.079 NBA after they lost the contract, and as part of 361 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:36.160 a settlement with the league this happened. So the league 362 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:38.799 settled with Warner Brothers. I think they gave digital rights 363 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:40.960 for the next ten years the only people that could 364 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.920 have those, and some other perks. They still had some 365 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:50.279 international territories where they provide games. They still run NBA 366 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:52.759 TV and NBA dot Com for the next five years. 367 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:58.240 So I think maybe this TNT tow ESPN might have 368 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:01.880 been part of this giant set that the NBA figured out. 369 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:04.319 Oh, I guarantee you the NBA was involved in that. 370 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:06.640 They don't want to lose that talent. They they had 371 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:09.640 a footprint around the world with those guys, those four guys, 372 00:20:09.799 --> 00:20:12.319 like you mentioned, T and T guys, they were the 373 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:16.960 best in the business of all sports. And to to 374 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.519 lose that or not to be able to kind of 375 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:23.240 continue that, they realized that they're not you know, they're 376 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:29.400 not so you know brand, you know, dominant and feel 377 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:31.160 like they got to keep their own people in their 378 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:34.480 own brand. Understand that there the other guys might have 379 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:37.119 a better show than we had, and why not, let's 380 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.559 let's keep those guys going and bring them over here. 381 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:41.480 I thought it was a big move. 382 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:44.319 It's not easy to put your ego aside and say, look, 383 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:46.279 those guys got a better show than we do, let's 384 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:49.680 bring them all over. So I'm sure it hurt from 385 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.319 the talent pool, the Steven A. Smith and and who 386 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:59.319 else was on that show, Malik Andrews and and and 387 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:08.400 Kendrick and my man my man from partnering interruption, Wilburn, Wilburd, Wilbon, Mike, 388 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:13.279 Mike Wilburon. Yeah, so I'm sure you know, it bothers 389 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:16.160 them a little bit, but it also I'm sure bothers 390 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:18.720 the producers of the show all of that. It's like, 391 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:21.400 you know, we we thought we did a pretty good job. 392 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:25.240 But the unfortunate thing that they were second behind those guys, 393 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:29.920 and and and a distance second at that. And so 394 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:32.440 the big brass that he has man said, we're not 395 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:35.039 going to why are we losing that? Because you remember 396 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:40.240 Charles was ready to retire Charles, he was done it's like, 397 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:43.000 I'm out, I'm not gonna We're not doing this show anymore. 398 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:44.480 And he made a big deal about it and was 399 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:47.400 signing off, and they brought it, you know, they brought 400 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:47.839 him back. 401 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:49.960