Speaker 1: Jessica Aaron, my guest for the evening. You know exactly
Speaker 1: where you can find her at Jessica dot erin links
Speaker 1: to all of her social media, or in the episode
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Speaker 1: Erin Jessica, it's a pleasure to have you on with
Speaker 1: me tonight. Hi, guys, let me start. I used to
Speaker 1: start with just the boring question like how did you
Speaker 1: get into this? But I have a better one now
Speaker 1: that I like to start with. When you think about
Speaker 1: everything you do, what do you consider your job titled
Speaker 1: to be?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, already coming up with hard questions? Huh? I
Speaker 2: don't know, Like I when people ask me what I do,
Speaker 2: I just say that I'm in the adult film industry.
Speaker 1: Sure, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty much it. I don't know. I feel
Speaker 2: like that it kind of explains everything to them. Sure,
Speaker 2: unless they're like, if i'd say adult film industry. Then
Speaker 2: they know if I just say the adult industry, then
Speaker 2: there's it's so broad.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha. See I always think, you know, the easy
Speaker 1: thing to go is, oh, Jessica Aaron's a porn star,
Speaker 1: that's what you do. But you're a social media manager,
Speaker 1: I assume. I don't know if you have a team
Speaker 1: that does editing, but you could potentially be.
Speaker 2: An editor everything myself.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: So I would love to have somebody that does everything
Speaker 2: for me. That that would make my life a lot easier. Honestly,
Speaker 2: it'd probably make more money. I hired it out to
Speaker 2: other people.
Speaker 1: Sure, trust me. When I sit here and I sit
Speaker 1: down to edit and the voice comes out not great,
Speaker 1: and I go, fuck, if I could just hand this
Speaker 1: off to somebody to make it perfect, I'll sit here
Speaker 1: and I'll talk to the beautiful ladies all day. You
Speaker 1: do all the back end work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to do the fucking you know,
Speaker 2: just let me fuck it. Then you do everything else.
Speaker 2: You know, here's my Twitter, here's my Instagram. You know,
Speaker 2: you do all that, and then here's my only fans
Speaker 2: you can pop it on there. Here's all the other websites.
Speaker 2: Because there's a million of them. It's just it's a lot,
Speaker 2: and when we get into it, you don't really notice
Speaker 2: how much marketing it is. I don't know. I'm not good.
Speaker 2: I'm not a marketer. I should really I need a
Speaker 2: book or something.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to that because I have another question
Speaker 1: that kind of piggybacks on that. But let me now
Speaker 1: after that first question go into the boring one. So
Speaker 1: how did you initially decide? How did Jessica go, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this work over here at XYZ whatever it is,
Speaker 1: Fuck it, We're going to just do this. We're going
Speaker 1: to become a person who works in the adult entertainment
Speaker 1: industry or whatever term we'd like to use. When did
Speaker 1: you decide to step out of the norm and into
Speaker 1: this fun, wild, wacky world.
Speaker 2: To be fair, I usually say I'm inborn, but I
Speaker 2: mean depending on the establishment of where I'm at. If
Speaker 2: it's like the gym, I'm like, yeah, I'm a foreign star.
Speaker 2: But if it's like we're sitting at a nice restaurant
Speaker 2: and I don't like, I don't know, if there's business
Speaker 2: people around me, oh, I'm an adult film industry. You know,
Speaker 2: it's a little bit class here depends on what you're
Speaker 2: talking to.
Speaker 1: There's a whole group of nouns sitting behind you. Sure yes,
Speaker 1: I'm in the adult entertainment industry. Sure yeah.
Speaker 2: You know when I go back home and like there's
Speaker 2: people that you know meet me for the first time.
Speaker 2: You know, that's extended friends and family. I'm an adult
Speaker 2: film industry.
Speaker 1: Okay again, I I don't delve into family. But you
Speaker 1: say going home this and that there's no likee man,
Speaker 1: that leads into other questions I have later too, So funny,
Speaker 1: we're jumping. It's I wish I could put this in
Speaker 1: a nice list and organize it the right way, but
Speaker 1: that's not how I work. Do you lie to people
Speaker 1: ever and say that you're not in the adult internet?
Speaker 1: You never like insurance because you don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it, or you like talking about it.
Speaker 2: The bank, Oh oh, the bank. A lie to the bank,
Speaker 2: A lie to like you know, because like when you
Speaker 2: like have an LLC, you don't want it to be
Speaker 2: anything like what that has anything to do with porn whatsoever,
Speaker 2: because if the bank finds out, then they can drop
Speaker 2: you as a client.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. They they do that to like white supremacists
Speaker 1: and porn stars. That's all all I've noticed, right, Like
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to have a bank account if you
Speaker 1: are spewing crazy hate or if you do the natural
Speaker 1: act of having sex and someone's filming it, it's social
Speaker 1: media hates you, guys. I watched a video or so
Speaker 1: lame because years ago during COVID.
Speaker 2: Everyone wanted to do only fans. Sure, everyone did only fans. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but now it's just getting back to the tab like oh,
Speaker 2: sexist taboo. But that's like if you think about history though,
Speaker 2: that's how history's been all like world history is where
Speaker 2: sex is more rampant, and then you know, then you
Speaker 2: go into like religions. I'm not going to get into there,
Speaker 2: but the religions like no, don't do that. And then
Speaker 2: it became and then it goes down and it's like
Speaker 2: it's an overflowing a roller coaster of being more prudish
Speaker 2: to being more sexualized.
Speaker 1: You know what too, I think there's been a tick
Speaker 1: up in people becoming more religious as well over the
Speaker 1: last x amount of I know, I don't know, COVID
Speaker 1: is it Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I noticed it too, with the chad wives and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm so into to piss off the tradwives.
Speaker 1: To be honest, see, I gotta ask, has anyone tackled
Speaker 1: those types of things as satire at all and tried
Speaker 1: to like get that. I interviewed a girl once. I
Speaker 1: also do its show where I interview new performers that
Speaker 1: are coming on like never having done anything, and again
Speaker 1: it's so funny. We were like, hey, no politics, and
Speaker 1: I'm about to dive into it, but not sidewise. She
Speaker 1: was the spitting image of Alexandria Ocasio Cortes AOC right, okay,
Speaker 1: And my thought was like, Lisa Ann did it with
Speaker 1: Sarah Pallin, right, I mean, we have SNL.
Speaker 2: They just instead a fucking they're they're doing comedy.
Speaker 1: Sure, and that's fine, but I'm saying some people might
Speaker 1: want to see the fucking you know, for your sake,
Speaker 1: I would hope they do. So. So I looked at
Speaker 1: that and I was like, yeah, you're definitely gonna be divided,
Speaker 1: but there is a market for that if someone you
Speaker 1: know is big. So I don't know the banks. Really,
Speaker 1: that's a fucking shame. They got to fix that.
Speaker 2: So the way I grew up was very Midwest, very
Speaker 2: I grew up on a farm like not like, uh,
Speaker 2: we didn't have no combines or nothing, but we grew
Speaker 2: up vegetables like it was a small farmstead. You know.
Speaker 2: I grew up growing my own food, canning, freezing, all
Speaker 2: that jazz. I grew up as basically as a trad wife,
Speaker 2: but as a child. That's like, that's what we did,
Speaker 2: That's how we survived. Sure, so now everyone is like
Speaker 2: in the city doing like all the treadwife bullshit, and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, that's great, but like and then they're
Speaker 2: trying to market off of it. And then first of all,
Speaker 2: then they are going all like, oh, I'm holier than now,
Speaker 2: and they're like aes somem are with their voice and
Speaker 2: like very sensual. But you're not fucking I know you
Speaker 2: would get freaky in the sheet. I know you. I
Speaker 2: know you're yet freaky.
Speaker 1: You got five kids, you know, Hannah. Fuck okay, I
Speaker 1: know you know how fuck okay, miss Utah. But has
Speaker 1: anyone catch see you want to And that's funny. I
Speaker 1: totally get it. You wan to piss off the trad wives.
Speaker 2: I there's a few people that I feel like it's
Speaker 2: worth It's worth me pissing off the trad wives. And
Speaker 2: I love the only fans people, but the only fans
Speaker 2: people that like to state that they are porn stars.
Speaker 1: No, okay, so that's interesting. So how did you initially
Speaker 1: get your start in this industry? It was only fans, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: it was only fans.
Speaker 2: And then I went to I met people that were
Speaker 2: performers and they were going to it ABN. This was
Speaker 2: two years ago, and I went and I met up
Speaker 2: with people that they worked with and we clicked and
Speaker 2: we did a clob My first ever collab was with
Speaker 2: Richard Glaize and then he posts on Twitter, which I
Speaker 2: never got into Twitter until I got into mainstream porn. Sure,
Speaker 2: it wasn't lucrative for me, gotcha, Yeah, who cares about
Speaker 2: what you fucking have to say? It's just negativity on there.
Speaker 2: But now it's all porn, so it's like it's great.
Speaker 1: So so what convinced you to make that step? Then?
Speaker 1: What was like I lost my job? Oh okay, so okay,
Speaker 1: So and this is not a bad thing at all.
Speaker 1: By the way, I apologize, I get.
Speaker 2: Right in the mask to get to where you want
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: That's well, I agree, But what I was going to say,
Speaker 1: this is not a bad thing. But some people come
Speaker 1: to this industry from a place of desperation, like I
Speaker 1: have bills I have to pay, I want to do
Speaker 1: this and then oh sure, okay, did you did you?
Speaker 1: Did you find you loved it right away? Or was
Speaker 1: it like it had to grow on you a little bit.
Speaker 2: So I actually went to my first shoot. It was
Speaker 2: Team Ski. It was through one of the friends that
Speaker 2: that brought me to ADN. She links me up with
Speaker 2: one of the teen Street directors and I went and
Speaker 2: I did like, I had like fifty lines. I had
Speaker 2: a lot of lines. Okay, it was like breaking the
Speaker 2: fourth wall looking straight at the camera. You know, a
Speaker 2: little bit of comedy in it. It was like Brady Bunch,
Speaker 2: but fucking you know. So I did all that and
Speaker 2: you know, I got out of the shower after and
Speaker 2: the director was like, oh my god, like you sure
Speaker 2: that was your first time? And I said yeah, and
Speaker 2: he's like, you're made for porn, and I was like
Speaker 2: that's when my big head started growing.
Speaker 1: You know, you're a natural. Goddamn You can really convince
Speaker 1: anyone to keep doing it, or at least do it
Speaker 1: the second time. The first time you grab them and
Speaker 1: you go you're fucking natural, you know that?
Speaker 2: Just and then I think what it was like the
Speaker 2: next day I had a collab with them, so I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, there you go, and it just works.
Speaker 1: I am. I have a lot of mainstream people that
Speaker 1: come on this show, so I'm always very friend. Oh yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: great the main stream. Isn't that the acting part? I
Speaker 1: could really it's hard just do it without uh, no offense.
Speaker 1: The acting's great. I don't really care that no offense.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a tough time for you that you're
Speaker 1: a real estate agent who's trying to sell this house
Speaker 1: and there's leaks everywhere, and if only there was something
Speaker 1: you could do. Yeah, I'm sure that's all great. I
Speaker 1: really want to get to the part where you're fucking
Speaker 1: though that's mad.
Speaker 2: I don't like the I don't like the lines I
Speaker 2: do suck. I like those. I want to do more
Speaker 2: scenes where there's like an actual character. Okay, you know,
Speaker 2: I like the I like doing the parodies.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I just did like the freak Your Friday one like
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago, and I was Lindsay Longhan
Speaker 2: of ours, who.
Speaker 1: Was, uh, who is the mother character in this?
Speaker 2: Lindsay Lohan is technically the mother because it's for a
Speaker 2: freakyer Friday. Then when I came out, and then there's
Speaker 2: the grandma and then the daughter.
Speaker 1: So I was the mom okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 2: And then there's the grandma.
Speaker 1: I was going through your your charts basically looking at
Speaker 1: everything you. I was like, milf this, milf that discuss No.
Speaker 1: Twenty five, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, thirty one. Now, just turned thirty one last week?
Speaker 1: Wow you are? I turned thirty eight next month, I believe,
Speaker 1: so I.
Speaker 2: Know I was. I was like thirty. I'm like thirty, thirty,
Speaker 2: thirty and thriving thirty one. I'm like, we can stop now,
Speaker 2: we don't need to hear any farther. I'm turning thirty again,
Speaker 2: say thirty.
Speaker 1: So when'd you initially get into this, Like twenty seven,
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty six.
Speaker 2: I did only fans during COVID okay, off and on,
Speaker 2: and then I got into porn, like mainstream porn. Last year.
Speaker 2: I just had my one year after first three.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, okay, let me jump into some
Speaker 1: of that content then, because I want to talk about
Speaker 1: a couple of things. We do a thing on the
Speaker 1: show called stat check Now, these numbers are entirely wrong. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're totally wrong. None of them are accurate. They're all bullshit.
Speaker 1: Anytime I say this too at the beginning, I go,
Speaker 1: these numbers are wrong. I say the numbers. The girl
Speaker 1: always responds back, those numbers are wrong. I know.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know if they're wrong or not, because I
Speaker 2: don't know. I didn't even roll that stats are a thing.
Speaker 1: Now, well, you'll see what I mean by stats when
Speaker 1: I start saying, so stat check seen. We use the
Speaker 1: Internet Adult Film Database for this. It's like IMDb except
Speaker 1: for porn. Now, what they count is most of your
Speaker 1: mainstream stuff, some collabse, some not. This isn't included over
Speaker 1: here that we just use it as a milestone. So
Speaker 1: that way, when you're on a year from now and
Speaker 1: you have like twelve AVN awards and we're like, oh, Jessica,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming back. Hell, you know when you
Speaker 1: still only have this number blah blah blah. So number
Speaker 1: of scenes you've shot are twenty nine, number of guys
Speaker 1: you've worked with twenty three seven girls. No, we only
Speaker 1: do AVN on this only because it'd be hard to
Speaker 1: do all the other st everything else. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I have zero A V noms and zero wins. Is
Speaker 1: that correct? Okay? All right?
Speaker 2: I hope we don't get like a Lisa nomination this year.
Speaker 2: I don't foresee myself actually winning this year, but it
Speaker 2: would be great to get a nomination for the best
Speaker 2: like favorite like boobs the boob category. Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: see myself getting the milk one, right because like I'm
Speaker 2: pretty new in the milf scene, or like the new
Speaker 2: starlet would be cool, but I'm going for the boobs.
Speaker 2: I would. I would like to be known for best boobs.
Speaker 1: Proud of them, are you?
Speaker 2: Yes? I bought them myself before porn. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: a male is because of my boobs.
Speaker 1: Did you ever look down at them as you were
Speaker 1: thinking about getting into porn and go, well, I bought these?
Speaker 1: I might well like fuck it? Why not?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry, my cat.
Speaker 1: It's totally cool. I'll show you my cat afterwards you
Speaker 1: lose your mind. You'll be like, oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: the cutest cat. He has a human name, too, Kay,
Speaker 1: ask your cat's name?
Speaker 2: Yes, what's yours? First?
Speaker 1: Though, David?
Speaker 2: Oh you're okay, So mine's Gerald?
Speaker 1: Okay? Human names that's pretty cute.
Speaker 2: It's actually a family name. Mean what that name? And
Speaker 2: I catch it not even thinking about it, but that's
Speaker 2: like my grandpa's name. And he when my dad was
Speaker 2: like yeah, like a child. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe he's reincarnated.
Speaker 1: Oh that's very cute. We adopted him. He's a little
Speaker 1: one eyed British short hair cat ut okay. And he
Speaker 1: doesn't scratch and he doesn't bite, and he does the
Speaker 1: thing that dogs do where they put their teeth on
Speaker 1: you if you're like tickling them, but he doesn't break skin.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how great are cats?
Speaker 2: I love cats. I just had to put one of
Speaker 2: mine down. I'm like, the day before my birthday.
Speaker 1: We're twins. You want to hear how we're almost kind
Speaker 1: of twins?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Three year My birthday's November twenty seventh. Okay, three years ago.
Speaker 1: On November twenty six my dad was killed in a
Speaker 1: work accident. Okay, it's okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: I've been a really good dad club too.
Speaker 1: It sucks, it's it's it's it's well, sometimes it sucks.
Speaker 1: I've met people where they're kind of like, well, my
Speaker 1: dad's dead. I'm like, oh my god, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: they go, I'm not.
Speaker 2: In a well And here's the thing is like they're dead.
Speaker 2: They've been dead for so long. It's just kind of like,
Speaker 2: why why are you sorry? You're just sorry for yourself.
Speaker 2: You had to hear me say that my dad's dead,
Speaker 2: and you know what, my mom is dead too, So
Speaker 2: I no one can ever give me your mama jokes.
Speaker 2: And I love that, and I might growman cry at
Speaker 2: the bar when they do like stupid dad jokes because
Speaker 2: I will win every time, you know, I'll make you feel.
Speaker 1: Like shit, I still have I'm mom. But I sit
Speaker 1: back and I think when I lost my dad, I
Speaker 1: was really like, even though I'm a grown man and
Speaker 1: my father was getting old and this and that, I
Speaker 1: had a feeling like, oh, there's no one that can,
Speaker 1: like who will have my back definitively, Like you all
Speaker 1: have friends and they find this and that, but you
Speaker 1: never know when your friends could kind of turn on
Speaker 1: you or this, and I disagree with you.
Speaker 2: That's never I guarantee I've dealt with that a lot, right,
Speaker 2: But someone family that you find close and everything else,
Speaker 2: when they're gone, it's almost like, shit, my shield's gone,
Speaker 2: you know, in a little bit of a way, like
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have this guy at the boar beat me up.
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like that, but I know, but it was, like.
Speaker 2: Dad, Bro, like I freaking the other day, I got
Speaker 2: a fucking flat tire and you know when I'm a
Speaker 2: little low on cash, Well, bro, I'm sorry. You know
Speaker 2: that sucks. You know, I'm going to be there for
Speaker 2: your emotional support. Do you need another tire to be
Speaker 2: put on?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And then he'll go and have we change a freaking tire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, I totally I get it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Here's the the other said part though, because you said
Speaker 1: about your cat. The following year, November twenty seventh, my
Speaker 1: actual birthday, the one year and one day anniversary, my
Speaker 1: dad we had to put down my wife's twenty one
Speaker 1: year old cat.
Speaker 2: All but that's a very long time.
Speaker 1: And she didn't get sick until the very the day.
Speaker 1: The day she went was when she showed signs she
Speaker 1: was going, like she went strong the whole fucking time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what I'm hoping Gerald will do. He's fat,
Speaker 2: he's like a ginger cat, you know, but he's like
Speaker 2: a cream color.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's very cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's like seven. And then I had a
Speaker 2: six year old that I had to put down, but
Speaker 2: he was like a special needs I think he was
Speaker 2: an eurologically not all there, okay, but he I woke
Speaker 2: up and he was not doing good and I took
Speaker 2: him and I think he had an obstruction.
Speaker 1: Oh that's really sad.
Speaker 2: And then I got my twelve year old who has hyperthyroidism.
Speaker 1: So now are you doing the cream in the ear?
Speaker 1: Is that hyper hypo?
Speaker 2: I think that's hypo. I do like two pills in
Speaker 2: the morning and two and a half at night.
Speaker 1: Okay. We used to do cream in the ear every
Speaker 1: night and then it eventually went to twice a day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she had a thyroid thing too. Anyway, Uh, I'll talk
Speaker 1: to you fucking day about cats. By the way, all
Speaker 1: right now, I'm just gonna have to hit this kind
Speaker 1: of crudely right off the bat. But what would you oh,
Speaker 1: where did the status? We're good with that. What would
Speaker 1: you say has been and you still have a young career.
Speaker 1: We just pissed the one year anniversary on your your
Speaker 1: mainstream porn entrance. What would you say has been your
Speaker 1: defining scene so far? Like if you if someone were
Speaker 1: to say, hey, I can only watch one video of yours.
Speaker 1: What is your best video that I should go check out?
Speaker 1: Either you do the best in it, you look the
Speaker 1: best in it. It's the most intense scene you've done. Like,
Speaker 1: what is your quote unquote defining scene.
Speaker 2: That's a hard one, you know. I got the most
Speaker 2: traction and people enjoying this scene, which is one of
Speaker 2: my least favorite scenes because of what happens in it.
Speaker 2: It's my glory whole swallow scene.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we have it's a tense. We have.
Speaker 2: It's intense. I think there was like seven guys, now
Speaker 2: ten guys. There's ten guys and you have to take
Speaker 2: each of their loads within two minutes.
Speaker 1: You are jumping two questions ahead every time we talk.
Speaker 1: It is the most awesome thing. And I actually forgot
Speaker 1: one of my old questions from section one that will
Speaker 1: come back to because now we're talking about it. I
Speaker 1: think you may be saying the wrong website too, because
Speaker 1: it's in both secrets. I think it's the secrets. There's
Speaker 1: a different one. Yeah, they're both. They're both ones. But
Speaker 1: I think you've shot with the Okay, yeah, that's actually
Speaker 1: on my prep sheet. Like to talk about this, Okay.
Speaker 1: I enjoy those websites. I enjoy how they're shot. I
Speaker 1: call them mid tiers. No offense to them, no offense.
Speaker 1: It's strictly production wise. So my tears are top end
Speaker 1: where everything's real beautiful. Director cinematography not necessarily my thing.
Speaker 2: I like the cinematic stuff.
Speaker 1: You do, so you do like that type of stuff
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I'm I just I think my two favorite ones are
Speaker 2: like not out yet. I have like three coming out
Speaker 2: that I don't know when they are. Two of them
Speaker 2: are pentholes, okay, and one of them's hustler, and they
Speaker 2: do more like cinematic nice stuff. And I just did
Speaker 2: what is it called pornpoll dot com. It's a brand
Speaker 2: new one, okay, but the guy, the director for that
Speaker 2: one does like really cinematic stuff and like slow mo
Speaker 2: while you're on the on the pole, and it's like,
Speaker 2: I'm excited for that one, but visualizing for the visual sure,
Speaker 2: but I would say, like the hardest one I've ever
Speaker 2: done that I'm most proud of because it was so
Speaker 2: I'm never swallowed come ever in my entire life. And
Speaker 2: then I go to this glory whole scene and I
Speaker 2: have to take ten loads well, and it's also like
Speaker 2: not fully all the way down my esophagus, so like
Speaker 2: I'm like sucking dick, and it's catching onto the stuff
Speaker 2: that dust was in there and put it back out,
Speaker 2: so I'm like coughing, like come out of my fucking esophagus,
Speaker 2: and it's just like it. I don't know. I think
Speaker 2: guys like to see if people struggle. Maybe that's what
Speaker 2: it is like they I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I enjoy those websites. I
Speaker 1: don't enjoy glory whole websites all the time. I enjoy secrets.
Speaker 1: I enjoy swallows. And here's why I do. And by
Speaker 1: the way, I like, I have a wife, like I
Speaker 1: don't have any need for porn. I just I just
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I think it's fun to watch. It's like
Speaker 1: a psychological thing. I think I like them because of
Speaker 1: kind of what you said there where when I see
Speaker 1: someone hits eight or nine or ten, I go, oh,
Speaker 1: this chick is a worker, Like it's maybe they cut
Speaker 1: away after the.
Speaker 2: First one with this just no, it was straight through.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I have to ask a little
Speaker 1: behind the scenes and don't you know if you don't
Speaker 1: want to, I totally understand it, but I would assume
Speaker 1: my own personal head. If I'm shooting that scene and
Speaker 1: I'm in your shoes, lingerie, nakedness, whatever, I'm thinking to myself, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll swallow one, then I'll go throw it up and
Speaker 1: drink some water. Come back, swallow the next one, drink
Speaker 1: some water. So you just shot all the way through.
Speaker 2: All the way through. I mean, if you absolutely need
Speaker 2: to cut, they will cut. But like, no, they have
Speaker 2: like because right after you do a gangbang okay, so
Speaker 2: so like they're also on a time crunch because those
Speaker 2: those the male talent shows up as well for that.
Speaker 2: So it's like you're on a time the country, get
Speaker 2: everything done.
Speaker 1: I have to ask it, and it's it's it's I'm
Speaker 1: not assuming this is true, but if I were to
Speaker 1: watch those scenes, if I were to watch the gang
Speaker 1: bang scene you said that occurred. Second, right, are you
Speaker 1: giving your one hundred percent performance or are you like
Speaker 1: at ninety? Like okay, I just got to keep the
Speaker 1: smile going because my jaw is killing me right now.
Speaker 2: No, because gang banks are super easy. It's quick. It's
Speaker 2: like thirty minutes, not even twenty thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, what goes? I mean? Is it just
Speaker 1: is that planned at all? Is it like they used
Speaker 1: to say, just go, just go, just jump in?
Speaker 2: So it's gonzo, it's it's you just get thrown into
Speaker 2: the wolves.
Speaker 1: See. That's what I like, And that's why I say
Speaker 1: I like those. I don't need like the beautiful cinematic
Speaker 1: thing because I know a monster. I can't ever picture
Speaker 1: a monster like myself in that beautiful scene by the
Speaker 1: ocean and you have you know, Jennifer White or whoever
Speaker 1: beautiful with the drapes. No, no, no, I'm more of a pig.
Speaker 1: I also don't necessarily need to be in the bottom
Speaker 1: tier where you hear like copywritten music in the background
Speaker 1: playing and you're like, oh, they don't have the rights
Speaker 1: to rage against the machine in this fucking porn video.
Speaker 1: So I like where maybe they don't have the best
Speaker 1: camera and the best cinemata, or they do have a
Speaker 1: really great camera, they don't need a lot of cinematography.
Speaker 1: They just kind of set up and go Jessica, go
Speaker 1: to work. Yeah, those I enjoy personally.
Speaker 2: They have like a they have a side camera and
Speaker 2: then they have an up top camera as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Eventually, I would like to do more cinematic things. I
Speaker 2: think that, like I'm well, I'm actually looking into doing
Speaker 2: some some improv classes and stuff just to like get
Speaker 2: into a little bit more acting portion because I would
Speaker 2: like to do more of like the movie style eventually,
Speaker 2: within like the next maybe couple of years.
Speaker 1: Sure does does does the acting portion and fit your personality?
Speaker 1: Prior to coming into porn or now.
Speaker 2: Well, I used like I was in drama, like okay
Speaker 2: class growing up, you know, and I was like a
Speaker 2: figure skater, so like I always was in like characters,
Speaker 2: you know, figure skating, you pick a character, you know,
Speaker 2: presented on like the skates you know, and judges and shows.
Speaker 2: So I was like Annie. I was always you know,
Speaker 2: what's so wild? I was always a redhead figure skating.
Speaker 2: I'm a blonde. Naturally.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask how real is the hair
Speaker 1: because it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: I get asked all the time if it's real. But
Speaker 2: it's because I pick like the most like orange ginger color. Ever. Sure,
Speaker 2: I don't want it to be fire engine, but I
Speaker 2: was like always Annie, it was always aerial, Okay, you know,
Speaker 2: and now, like I just have red hair and I'm
Speaker 2: in porn, so I guess it just fits.
Speaker 1: I get it. That makes sense to me. Are you
Speaker 1: going to be the type? Are you making the red
Speaker 1: hair your or will you eventually change it? You think
Speaker 1: once I.
Speaker 2: Would would like to change it. I would like to
Speaker 2: actually just have like my natural hair all together. But
Speaker 2: I kind of started porn in with it, so now
Speaker 2: it's kind of I would say, within the next like
Speaker 2: three years, I'm going to keep it for a long time,
Speaker 2: but who knows, it might be even harder to change
Speaker 2: it then.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, were there any like kinks or niches or
Speaker 1: fetishes or anything like that that you thought you would
Speaker 1: have no interest in pursuing coming into porn where you're
Speaker 1: maybe like I don't want to ever do that. Maybe
Speaker 1: I ended up shooting a scene like that something and
Speaker 1: you decide, oh, that's actually kind of fun. I do
Speaker 1: kind of like that. Has anything changed your mind in porn?
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't done anything super crazy in my opinion,
Speaker 2: Like I haven't done anything for like kink or anything. No,
Speaker 2: I haven't done any bondage. I haven't done anal So
Speaker 2: it's like, I mean, like everything else I feel like
Speaker 2: it's so like normal, but I mean, is it though?
Speaker 2: Like my brain now is completely different than it was
Speaker 2: a year ago.
Speaker 1: My brain's been fucked since sixth grade. Okay, Like that
Speaker 1: was the first time we had the spice channel and
Speaker 1: it kind of decoded a little and you could see
Speaker 1: the you know.
Speaker 2: Waves, You can see one nipple it.
Speaker 1: Well exactly, and that's just the whole night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're like, you're gonna be thinking about that
Speaker 2: one nipple the whole time. Yeah, go for hours on that.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah no, yeah, and and and so when I
Speaker 1: have to say that, I'm like I have to step
Speaker 1: outside and be like, what do normal people consider to
Speaker 1: be normal? Right? I saw a scene I didn't watch.
Speaker 1: The whole scene wasn't necessarily my thing, but I saw
Speaker 1: a scene where you were riding a guy and then
Speaker 1: another guy was fucking that guy, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is like.
Speaker 2: Uh, was it all three of us on top of
Speaker 2: each other? It was?
Speaker 1: It was it was it was the one guy that
Speaker 1: you were fucking laying on the bed and the other
Speaker 1: guy came and just kind of slid in this guy.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I think I'm done with
Speaker 1: this episode. It's fine. It's fine for people who enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I'm not not my preference.
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, that might be something. Yeah, I probably wouldn't
Speaker 2: think about being into the BYE area. I've only done
Speaker 2: like two byzines and then the rest have been like
Speaker 2: because like collabse or stuff, you know. But I don't
Speaker 2: really consider myself being part of the BYE portion. I'm
Speaker 2: more of a straight okay, but I mean I don't
Speaker 2: mind if that's what you know. I mean most of
Speaker 2: the guys are gay for pay anyways.
Speaker 1: Okay, is that okay? All right, we've all heard that
Speaker 1: for about thirty years and thank you for confirming it. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So they say, sure, have you ever had to this is? Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm only ask you to name the person at all.
Speaker 1: I won't. I won't, I won't. It's a rude question.
Speaker 1: Have you ever shown up on set and seen the
Speaker 1: guy you're gonna have to fucking been like, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a long day? Yeah? And was it a looks thing?
Speaker 1: Was it a hygiene thing? Was it a reputation? It's
Speaker 1: been there's been enough Copple. Actually, surprisingly one was a
Speaker 1: looks and penis too small, too big, too small, God,
Speaker 1: too small like, like, okay, step outside of the industry again,
Speaker 1: you're you're a woman working in marketing.
Speaker 2: All oh, it was normal size.
Speaker 1: How does that get into porn? Then?
Speaker 2: Well, he works for himself.
Speaker 1: Got you. That's the real easy way to not have it.
Speaker 1: Fucking matter. Huh, doesn't matter what I look like, as
Speaker 1: long as provide the flight, hotel and pay for it
Speaker 1: and put it up on a website. Maybe depending on
Speaker 1: the girl.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, And then another person was because
Speaker 2: of their hygiene teeth specifically.
Speaker 1: I just ask some girl that day the other day,
Speaker 1: what is breath like on set? I'm a real important
Speaker 1: breath person. If you, I don't care how hot you are.
Speaker 2: Just has plaque on their teeth.
Speaker 1: That's gross when you can see it. Yeah, oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 1: But to answer the question about breath, do people have
Speaker 1: a good breath on set?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm the person that I like. I brush my
Speaker 2: teeth before I go to set. I brush my teeth
Speaker 2: right before I'm doing even Pretty Girls, and then before
Speaker 2: we start the scene, I'll brush my teeth, and then
Speaker 2: after the scene, I'll brush my teeth. Wonderful, I'm like,
Speaker 2: But I also have VISI line, so I'm like, sure,
Speaker 2: and I have like the breath drops, I have like
Speaker 2: all this extra stuff. I just deepens. Not not everyone
Speaker 2: can hate. Uh. Some people have situations with their mouth.
Speaker 2: Usually some of them is like veneers, Okay, I can
Speaker 2: help it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can throw a mint in there though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and people do, but sometimes it doesn't always work
Speaker 2: the whole time, and it's just it is what it is,
Speaker 2: and it's honestly, it's their dentists that messed up, so
Speaker 2: you should Well.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to come down on any of them
Speaker 1: my personally. I just I if I saw I use
Speaker 1: thinking about that in mainstream movies too, I'm like, did
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt have tuna that day when he was kissing
Speaker 1: the chick? Because I hate that.
Speaker 2: My thing is is like all these freaking celebrities are
Speaker 2: getting like veneers, and like, I know, their fucking mouth
Speaker 2: is rank. How come no one's talking about their mouth
Speaker 2: being rank.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that, but veneers stink.
Speaker 2: You're saying, yes, they have a near breath some people,
Speaker 2: but some people I wouldn't say. If you had a
Speaker 2: good dentist who did the veneers correctly, it should be fine. Sure,
Speaker 2: But some people what happens is like, and I'm not
Speaker 2: the most educated on it. Okay, sure they maybe drill,
Speaker 2: they take too much of the enamel off of the
Speaker 2: tooth and it starts rotting into the in the veneer,
Speaker 2: and so then you have a rotting tooth underneath the
Speaker 2: veneer the cap. Yeah, that's why most people what they
Speaker 2: should be doing is just taking a little bit off
Speaker 2: and getting like the porcelain, you know, yeah copper, like
Speaker 2: the front facing, not the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what kind of teeth. The guy with the
Speaker 1: small dick had though he still had a small dick.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was nice.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, that's great. That's what old guys want to hear.
Speaker 1: You dick smell, but you're nice.
Speaker 2: I was getting angry halfway in because I was like, God,
Speaker 2: I just want this to be over.
Speaker 1: All right? What type what type of content? If I
Speaker 1: head over to your only fans? Am I going to
Speaker 1: see at Jessica dot Aaron AA r E N. Are
Speaker 1: you a daily poster of a picture? Are you a
Speaker 1: weekly poster? Are you a monthly full video? Or what
Speaker 1: are we doing? What is like the structure?
Speaker 2: Whenever I remember and or if somebody messages me for
Speaker 2: a custom I'll like, I like the customs. I think
Speaker 2: I just fell out of love for only fans because
Speaker 2: it's just of everything else in my daily life. It's
Speaker 2: another thing that I have to remember to be active on. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know, sure, I just need to be better about it,
Speaker 2: to be honest. Okay, all right, I'm trying.
Speaker 1: You try this in New Year's resolution that we're coming
Speaker 1: up with it.
Speaker 2: Way I can find somebody to, like, you know, sit
Speaker 2: in my ear and be like, hey, you need to
Speaker 2: post this, this and this today, and I'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe I just need guidance. I just need somebody a
Speaker 2: guide me to make posts every day.
Speaker 1: Do you And I know, I know that's not what
Speaker 1: you're talking about in this sense, but do you have
Speaker 1: any mentors in the industry, anyone who's like helped you along?
Speaker 1: Or I see online all you girls, I would think
Speaker 1: from the outside again using dumb brain over there, I
Speaker 1: would be like, oh my god, it must be so
Speaker 1: fucking caddy and nasty in the porn industry, all these
Speaker 1: girls going at each other to beauty contest. No, you
Speaker 1: all seem like really nice with each other and sweet.
Speaker 1: Has anyone like been a mentor for you have you
Speaker 1: kind of figured it out yourself.
Speaker 2: I've kind of had to do it myself here. And
Speaker 2: I feel like different locations of porn have different environments.
Speaker 2: Florida is very party, you know. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: like big content houses, model houses there. There's quite a
Speaker 2: few so and I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 2: call mingle over there. La I feel like is exactly
Speaker 2: the same saying people co mingle here in Vegas, people
Speaker 2: don't really co mingle like that, if that makes sense. No. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of older I mean coming. It's just
Speaker 2: so weird because I characterize myself as like the new
Speaker 2: new porn stars. But usually those new porn stars are
Speaker 2: usually like eighteen, nineteen to twenty five, you know, and
Speaker 2: then there's me, thirty one, coming in and it's like
Speaker 2: I have this work ethic of somebody who is older,
Speaker 2: who just stays to themselves. And then but then I'm
Speaker 2: still part of this new wave of new people, you know.
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe that's just Vegas though, because there's been
Speaker 1: so many people who have come into the industry because
Speaker 1: of COVID, you know, during the pandemic, even older people
Speaker 1: like I've interviewed a lot of people who've come in
Speaker 1: not even not old or older, but like you're saying,
Speaker 1: not eighteen nineteen. But then again, all of you kind
Speaker 1: of learned to do it on your own during COVID,
Speaker 1: So maybe that's kind of the mindset now. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't come mingle. We don't, but we're not angry
Speaker 1: at anyone. It's just say, I got shit, I gotta
Speaker 1: get done. Let's get it done. Do you want to
Speaker 1: work with me on this ship? Let's get it done?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, okay, all right? Is there a type
Speaker 1: of I.
Speaker 2: Would like to do more things, but I think I
Speaker 2: just need to Like it might be just Vegas, you think, so, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they don't do like industry parties here like that.
Speaker 1: That surprises me. Why don't they?
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a lot of performance because there's
Speaker 2: a lot of the older porn stars that live here
Speaker 2: and I stick to themselves, or they have kids, got
Speaker 2: or they're like in the swinger lifestyle, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's great, but it's like, have you gone to a
Speaker 2: swinger party? Me?
Speaker 1: Personally, I have not. I've interviewed a lot over the
Speaker 1: last few weeks.
Speaker 2: Though, I I've gone to one and it was very just,
Speaker 2: and none of the men were in like.
Speaker 1: I know, you were not interested in them, or they
Speaker 1: weren't interested in you. I wasn't interested in Yeah, I
Speaker 1: figured I was like, what the fuck are these guys
Speaker 1: talking about? Okay, good makes.
Speaker 2: Sense, and the way they do it well. I didn't
Speaker 2: go to like a like a like a swinger party
Speaker 2: that was like industry people. Sure, I went to, like,
Speaker 2: I guess, a normal swinger freaking play party. And then
Speaker 2: me and my one friend that are like, he's in
Speaker 2: only fans. He gets tested, I get tested. We have
Speaker 2: a risk band. No one else has risk bands. So
Speaker 2: you can't even be fucking anybody because I'm not going
Speaker 2: to waste my test. I'm not going to validate my test.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, that doesn't make sense. I okay. So our
Speaker 1: industry parties, like in industry swinger parties, is that like
Speaker 1: everyone comes in tested for the most part, I'm guessing.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, if you're in the industry, it would
Speaker 2: make sense that you would come in tested.
Speaker 1: It's so funny anytime. It's just the trope about porn
Speaker 1: stars are just so far from the truth. Ready, all
Speaker 1: you do is show up on set and get fucked
Speaker 1: and get paid a lot of money. No, not true
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: You haven't been. We haven't had an industry pay raise
Speaker 2: in since the eighties.
Speaker 1: You girls are dirty and have STDs and this and that.
Speaker 1: The cleanest people in the world, right, These tropes are
Speaker 1: just entirely wrong about the porn industry.
Speaker 2: So we're probably the most cleanliest. We take Like when
Speaker 2: it's on set, I'm taking like three showers to day.
Speaker 1: You told me you brush your teeth about twelve times
Speaker 1: before you get the scene. Like, you know, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine how clean your hair is because your fucking mouth
Speaker 1: is shine.
Speaker 2: I try not to wash my hair that much because
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's nice not to wash the hair.
Speaker 2: It takes a while to drive, but the body have
Speaker 2: to smell good.
Speaker 1: This is your job. This is like y, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I.
Speaker 2: Kind of even like driving to LA and having a
Speaker 2: shoot because like, when I drive to LA, I'm sitting
Speaker 2: in the car for four and a half hour, you know,
Speaker 2: do you singing and swast I'm like, uh no, I'm
Speaker 2: all sweaty now, nervous sweats, you know, trying to get
Speaker 2: to LA.
Speaker 1: I get it. I've waited for an interview in a
Speaker 1: hot car for forty five minutes, just pouring sweat through
Speaker 1: my suit.
Speaker 2: Well, and I am always early, Well, I'm always early.
Speaker 2: I'm always like an hour early to my LA shoots.
Speaker 1: Why is that? Do you drive real fast? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I drive and I drive fast, but not only that.
Speaker 2: I have anxiety about being late to anything. So and
Speaker 2: I never know the what the traffic's going to be
Speaker 2: like in LA.
Speaker 1: I've never been west of Pennsylvania. Okay, you know, I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you what traffic's like Jersey traffics dog shit, though,
Speaker 1: if you're coming to Exotica, I'll let you know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my roommates actually going to Exotica.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Is she a performer? I can ask
Speaker 1: the name or no?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lucy Lotus.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right. Oh I may have reached out
Speaker 1: to her for an interview in the past. I don't know, Okay, Jessica,
Speaker 1: where or I have a couple more questions, and they're
Speaker 1: they're odd, kind of where are we going from here?
Speaker 1: Do you want? It? Sounds like it's so funny because
Speaker 1: you answer all the questions beforehand, because you're so good
Speaker 1: at like just conversing. I my question to you is
Speaker 1: where do you want your career to go from here? Now?
Speaker 1: If I track back and go, well, you want to
Speaker 1: start shooting more mainstream stuff, go ahead, you say it again.
Speaker 1: Where would we like to see Jessica Aaron's career move
Speaker 1: from this point?
Speaker 2: I would like to do more like not less MILF.
Speaker 2: I do love the MILF, I'll still do it, but
Speaker 2: I would like to do more like boyfriend girlfriend stuff,
Speaker 2: or more girl next door or wife swap. I just
Speaker 2: worked with Nadi America and I liked that. I would
Speaker 2: like to do more stuff like that, Vixen, more penthouse hustler.
Speaker 2: I would like to do like get on some like magazines,
Speaker 2: maybe have a feature for some. I'm currently trying to
Speaker 2: set up a time this year to go to Budapest
Speaker 2: or Prague.
Speaker 1: Okay, Prog's a big shoot site, right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I would like to do that. I'm in
Speaker 2: the process of trying to get everything worked out while
Speaker 2: trying to figure out I want to move. I want
Speaker 2: to move to a different apartment, so I'm like trying
Speaker 2: to fit that plus my Florida trip, plus my New
Speaker 2: York City trip. It's like there's a lot.
Speaker 1: Well it's tough to ask this though, So do you
Speaker 1: see yourself more as a person who do you want
Speaker 1: to do this for X amount of years? And then
Speaker 1: I understand there's no definitive answer and no one will
Speaker 1: hold you to this, but do you want to do
Speaker 1: this for X amount of years? And then forty forty
Speaker 1: five something like that, you go, I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: step away. Do you see yourself shooting like Guilf porn
Speaker 1: someday or not?
Speaker 2: Guilf? No, now, Guilf. That's that I can probably say, no,
Speaker 2: I would not. But like one is like, what's the
Speaker 2: age your guilf is that? Like, are they going to
Speaker 2: be like, oh, it's forty five. My dad would be
Speaker 2: crazy to be a Guilf at forty five? Like, but
Speaker 2: and I already look young. Yeah, I look twenty five
Speaker 2: and I'm thirty, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have to be like one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty to do stop I think the way you're aging.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to do I would like to
Speaker 2: try to invest and get multiple homes for just like
Speaker 2: obviously myself, but then to one to rent out for industry. Sure,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Yeah, I just need to do
Speaker 2: more investments.
Speaker 1: Personal question, are you good with money? Are you bad
Speaker 1: with money? Bad with money too? Yeah? Wi, my wife
Speaker 1: is so good with money and I have to almost
Speaker 1: be like fucking take my shit away from me. I
Speaker 1: see stuff and I go, we need that, we need
Speaker 1: that right now on Amazon. Yeah, it's a real problem, dude.
Speaker 1: I got Amazon packages day everything.
Speaker 2: I know. I was kind of bad. I bought this
Speaker 2: nice mirror and I was like, it's an investment. I
Speaker 2: can take pictures in it.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: It was like thirty five dollars.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a business right off to me, if
Speaker 1: you have.
Speaker 2: The right I mean, everything's in business right now.
Speaker 1: It's pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: Like, I know, my tax lady just still foiled my
Speaker 2: taxes from last year.
Speaker 1: Last question I have for you here, and it's an
Speaker 1: odd one, but I always like to just judge it
Speaker 1: based on the people who are in the industry and
Speaker 1: what they think. And the answers to me have been
Speaker 1: really surprising. It's not meant to be a gotcha or
Speaker 1: negative or anything like that. What age should women be
Speaker 1: allowed to get into porn legally? Go ahead, and then
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I've kind of been tracking from
Speaker 1: all the other performers I've talked.
Speaker 2: I feel like it probably shouldn't be eighteen. Yes, legally
Speaker 2: you're an adult, but I also don't think that, like
Speaker 2: people in the military at eighteen should be sent out
Speaker 2: to war either. So I'm I mean, they say your
Speaker 2: frontal lobe developed at twenty five, but I mean then
Speaker 2: I feel like you're kind of getting late to the
Speaker 2: game of you know, of the tiktoks and twitters and Instagrams,
Speaker 2: like people already having careers by the time they get
Speaker 2: twenty five. I would probably see, like twenty one, I
Speaker 2: think that's a good way to start drinking. I mean unfortunate,
Speaker 2: Like I mean, granted, they are going to start partying
Speaker 2: a lot and having gas money, they're going to spend
Speaker 2: it willy nilly. You can only do so much though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's kind of been the consent we've we've
Speaker 1: talked about it in this way. I use the exact
Speaker 1: same reference. I go, if you can go die in war,
Speaker 1: you should be able to shoot porn if you want to. Right,
Speaker 1: You're mature enough for that. You're mature enough. But it
Speaker 1: really comes down to where the number doesn't really matter
Speaker 1: because there's eighteen year old who are mature enough to
Speaker 1: do this and understand the complications of it.
Speaker 2: And then the thirty year olds that aren't even mature enough
Speaker 2: to do this, and they get drugs and they you know,
Speaker 2: they can't handle their stuff. You know, they go and party.
Speaker 2: They're more worried about the partying than anything.
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like she's calling me out directly now, folks,
Speaker 1: But no, I'm just kidding. Uh, But they get that.
Speaker 1: So here was the kind of solution we came up with, right,
Speaker 1: how about eighteen to twenty one? You can do cam
Speaker 1: and solo stuff on only fans. Okay, you can make
Speaker 1: money if you need to. That was the other concern.
Speaker 1: It's some girls get kicked out of the house at sixteen,
Speaker 1: they hit eighteen, they decide they want to do this.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the one to take that
Speaker 1: away from them.
Speaker 2: Well, and then you also got to think about the
Speaker 2: like the legislation side of it, which is kind of shitty.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to bring this up, but if you if
Speaker 2: you put a stop on you know, the age of
Speaker 2: being on these platforms and performing, then it's going to
Speaker 2: hurt women. It's not really going to help hurt men.
Speaker 2: Too much, right, it's gonna hurt the women of the world,
Speaker 2: so and that aspect, it kind of makes me feel
Speaker 2: kind of like ichy because like, you know, you're taking
Speaker 2: away a woman's right.
Speaker 1: Totally totally. I think it's more the way I looked
Speaker 1: at it at least, and again it's not I'm a
Speaker 1: fucking middle aged dude, like it doesn't affect me at all,
Speaker 1: but I always I did an interview early on with
Speaker 1: this girl who was eighteen, found a job on sexy Jobs,
Speaker 1: flew across the country on her own dime because she
Speaker 1: was going to be paid back for it, booked a
Speaker 1: hotel room, got to the hotel, called the guy no answer,
Speaker 1: and I hear that, and I go like, yo, I
Speaker 1: am that I not.
Speaker 2: Only fans people all the time. That's why I don't
Speaker 2: fuck around with it.
Speaker 1: You know, I totally get it. It just it like that.
Speaker 1: To me. I was like, yo, we need to like
Speaker 1: protect people like that. But that's just a white night thing.
Speaker 1: That's I have not considered, like you said at the time,
Speaker 1: I did not consider like you said. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hurt why I don't want to take opportunities.
Speaker 2: Because what it is it's like once they go this step,
Speaker 2: then it's what's the next step. And there's already a
Speaker 2: war on sex sex workers. Yeah, so they're already trying
Speaker 2: to take away I mean, my home state had I
Speaker 2: think they're trying to pass a law that they can't
Speaker 2: have porn hump.
Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a bunch of states already right.
Speaker 2: There is Texas and Florida is one of them. Michigan
Speaker 2: is going to do it as well. But they also
Speaker 2: they put in a clause I don't know if if
Speaker 2: you read the Michigan one, which is the one I read,
Speaker 2: they're trying to put a uh, transphobic law in place
Speaker 2: where it's under the law for porn. So there the
Speaker 2: headline says porn, but they're really attacking the trans the
Speaker 2: trans community, and that's what's happening. And with these with
Speaker 2: these bills, it's like they have a umbrella, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: law that they're trying to get passed, but no one's
Speaker 2: actually reading what's underneath and what the fine line printers. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the bill we're getting attacked.
Speaker 1: The bill to ban porn. It's sixteen hundred pages or whatever,
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, what else is in there, because
Speaker 1: like I think you could have wrapped this up in
Speaker 1: three or four pages.
Speaker 2: Maybe they wanted to be as they wanted to be
Speaker 2: as hard to read as possible.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, you know it's weird. But
Speaker 1: by the way, that's when you step in you make
Speaker 1: a separate of trad jess okay, and you get and
Speaker 1: you do ludes. Just do ludes, okay, because these guys
Speaker 1: are you know, church guys I don't want.
Speaker 2: To talk of just like having all these like freaking
Speaker 2: sun dresses that go down to the.
Speaker 1: Floor, drags on the floor.
Speaker 2: I have actually thought about pissing them off that way
Speaker 2: by doing like like because I don't know, I just
Speaker 2: find it funny. There's some people that I'm willing to troll,
Speaker 2: and the tradwives are the are the It's okay, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think you'd piss them. I think you might piss
Speaker 1: the wives off, but I think you might get the
Speaker 1: guys on that for real. Like if I wish.
Speaker 2: Back in North Adaytota and I do like a whole
Speaker 2: shoot in the freaking fields like picking corn.
Speaker 1: Again, it might work. You don't know, there's an what
Speaker 1: I've learned from interviewing people in this industry is there
Speaker 1: is an audience for everything. Might not be the biggest audience,
Speaker 1: but there's an audience for everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just so weird because I have the
Speaker 2: tr like, I know the knowledge of tridwives. But the
Speaker 2: thing is is all the tridewives that are on the
Speaker 2: internet now, they're fake. They're fake tribewives. They're not. They
Speaker 2: don't even like they just learned how to pickle, so
Speaker 2: that the pickle. They just learned how to do sour dough.
Speaker 2: Just now they're doing sour doll.
Speaker 1: Look. I'm I'm not religious at all, but COVID really
Speaker 1: fucked me up. Where my wife and I are looking
Speaker 1: for a house now, I'm looking for an acre of
Speaker 1: property so I could grow my own food, not have
Speaker 1: fucking microplastics all over the world.
Speaker 2: I real food, right, it's growing my own food. I
Speaker 2: really do because it's like it's great. I loved it.
Speaker 2: It tastes so much better.
Speaker 1: It tastes Yeah, I did tomatoes a few years ago.
Speaker 1: They were good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you ever had a radish from the grocery store.
Speaker 1: I've never had a radish personally, No, what is a ratish?
Speaker 2: She is so good, like like we used to grow
Speaker 2: like corse radish root.
Speaker 1: It makes radish is different. Horse radish is good. Radishes
Speaker 1: are like fucking beats with no flavor.
Speaker 2: From the grocery store when you have them from your house,
Speaker 2: like it's hot, it's spicy.
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