Speaker 1: Jessica Aaron, my guest for the evening. You know exactly
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Erin Jessica, it's a pleasure to have you on with
me tonight. Hi, guys, let me start. I used to
start with just the boring question like how did you
get into this? But I have a better one now
that I like to start with. When you think about
everything you do, what do you consider your job titled
to be?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, already coming up with hard questions? Huh? I
don't know, Like I when people ask me what I do,
I just say that I'm in the adult film industry.
Speaker 1: Sure, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty much it. I don't know. I feel
like that it kind of explains everything to them. Sure,
unless they're like, if i'd say adult film industry. Then
they know if I just say the adult industry, then
there's it's so broad.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha. See I always think, you know, the easy
thing to go is, oh, Jessica Aaron's a porn star,
that's what you do. But you're a social media manager,
I assume. I don't know if you have a team
that does editing, but you could potentially be.
Speaker 2: An editor everything myself.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: So I would love to have somebody that does everything
for me. That that would make my life a lot easier. Honestly,
it'd probably make more money. I hired it out to
other people.
Speaker 1: Sure, trust me. When I sit here and I sit
down to edit and the voice comes out not great,
and I go, fuck, if I could just hand this
off to somebody to make it perfect, I'll sit here
and I'll talk to the beautiful ladies all day. You
do all the back end work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to do the fucking you know,
just let me fuck it. Then you do everything else.
You know, here's my Twitter, here's my Instagram. You know,
you do all that, and then here's my only fans
you can pop it on there. Here's all the other websites.
Because there's a million of them. It's just it's a lot,
and when we get into it, you don't really notice
how much marketing it is. I don't know. I'm not good.
I'm not a marketer. I should really I need a
book or something.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to that because I have another question
that kind of piggybacks on that. But let me now
after that first question go into the boring one. So
how did you initially decide? How did Jessica go, Hey,
I'm doing this work over here at XYZ whatever it is,
Fuck it, We're going to just do this. We're going
to become a person who works in the adult entertainment
industry or whatever term we'd like to use. When did
you decide to step out of the norm and into
this fun, wild, wacky world.
Speaker 2: To be fair, I usually say I'm inborn, but I
mean depending on the establishment of where I'm at. If
it's like the gym, I'm like, yeah, I'm a foreign star.
But if it's like we're sitting at a nice restaurant
and I don't like, I don't know, if there's business
people around me, oh, I'm an adult film industry. You know,
it's a little bit class here depends on what you're
talking to.
Speaker 1: There's a whole group of nouns sitting behind you. Sure yes,
I'm in the adult entertainment industry. Sure yeah.
Speaker 2: You know when I go back home and like there's
people that you know meet me for the first time.
You know, that's extended friends and family. I'm an adult
film industry.
Speaker 1: Okay again, I I don't delve into family. But you
say going home this and that there's no likee man,
that leads into other questions I have later too, So funny,
we're jumping. It's I wish I could put this in
a nice list and organize it the right way, but
that's not how I work. Do you lie to people
ever and say that you're not in the adult internet?
You never like insurance because you don't want to talk
about it, or you like talking about it.
Speaker 2: The bank, Oh oh, the bank. A lie to the bank,
A lie to like you know, because like when you
like have an LLC, you don't want it to be
anything like what that has anything to do with porn whatsoever,
because if the bank finds out, then they can drop
you as a client.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. They they do that to like white supremacists
and porn stars. That's all all I've noticed, right, Like
you're not allowed to have a bank account if you
are spewing crazy hate or if you do the natural
act of having sex and someone's filming it, it's social
media hates you, guys. I watched a video or so
lame because years ago during COVID.
Speaker 2: Everyone wanted to do only fans. Sure, everyone did only fans. Yeah,
but now it's just getting back to the tab like oh,
sexist taboo. But that's like if you think about history though,
that's how history's been all like world history is where
sex is more rampant, and then you know, then you
go into like religions. I'm not going to get into there,
but the religions like no, don't do that. And then
it became and then it goes down and it's like
it's an overflowing a roller coaster of being more prudish
to being more sexualized.
Speaker 1: You know what too, I think there's been a tick
up in people becoming more religious as well over the
last x amount of I know, I don't know, COVID
is it Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I noticed it too, with the chad wives and stuff.
I'm so into to piss off the tradwives.
Speaker 1: To be honest, see, I gotta ask, has anyone tackled
those types of things as satire at all and tried
to like get that. I interviewed a girl once. I
also do its show where I interview new performers that
are coming on like never having done anything, and again
it's so funny. We were like, hey, no politics, and
I'm about to dive into it, but not sidewise. She
was the spitting image of Alexandria Ocasio Cortes AOC right, okay,
And my thought was like, Lisa Ann did it with
Sarah Pallin, right, I mean, we have SNL.
Speaker 2: They just instead a fucking they're they're doing comedy.
Speaker 1: Sure, and that's fine, but I'm saying some people might
want to see the fucking you know, for your sake,
I would hope they do. So. So I looked at
that and I was like, yeah, you're definitely gonna be divided,
but there is a market for that if someone you
know is big. So I don't know the banks. Really,
that's a fucking shame. They got to fix that.
Speaker 2: So the way I grew up was very Midwest, very
I grew up on a farm like not like, uh,
we didn't have no combines or nothing, but we grew
up vegetables like it was a small farmstead. You know.
I grew up growing my own food, canning, freezing, all
that jazz. I grew up as basically as a trad wife,
but as a child. That's like, that's what we did,
That's how we survived. Sure, so now everyone is like
in the city doing like all the treadwife bullshit, and
I'm just like, that's great, but like and then they're
trying to market off of it. And then first of all,
then they are going all like, oh, I'm holier than now,
and they're like aes somem are with their voice and
like very sensual. But you're not fucking I know you
would get freaky in the sheet. I know you. I
know you're yet freaky.
Speaker 1: You got five kids, you know, Hannah. Fuck okay, I
know you know how fuck okay, miss Utah. But has
anyone catch see you want to And that's funny. I
totally get it. You wan to piss off the trad wives.
Speaker 2: I there's a few people that I feel like it's
worth It's worth me pissing off the trad wives. And
I love the only fans people, but the only fans
people that like to state that they are porn stars.
Speaker 1: No, okay, so that's interesting. So how did you initially
get your start in this industry? It was only fans, right, Yes,
it was only fans.
Speaker 2: And then I went to I met people that were
performers and they were going to it ABN. This was
two years ago, and I went and I met up
with people that they worked with and we clicked and
we did a clob My first ever collab was with
Richard Glaize and then he posts on Twitter, which I
never got into Twitter until I got into mainstream porn. Sure,
it wasn't lucrative for me, gotcha, Yeah, who cares about
what you fucking have to say? It's just negativity on there.
But now it's all porn, so it's like it's great.
Speaker 1: So so what convinced you to make that step? Then?
What was like I lost my job? Oh okay, so okay,
So and this is not a bad thing at all.
By the way, I apologize, I get.
Speaker 2: Right in the mask to get to where you want
to be.
Speaker 1: That's well, I agree, But what I was going to say,
this is not a bad thing. But some people come
to this industry from a place of desperation, like I
have bills I have to pay, I want to do
this and then oh sure, okay, did you did you?
Did you find you loved it right away? Or was
it like it had to grow on you a little bit.
Speaker 2: So I actually went to my first shoot. It was
Team Ski. It was through one of the friends that
that brought me to ADN. She links me up with
one of the teen Street directors and I went and
I did like, I had like fifty lines. I had
a lot of lines. Okay, it was like breaking the
fourth wall looking straight at the camera. You know, a
little bit of comedy in it. It was like Brady Bunch,
but fucking you know. So I did all that and
you know, I got out of the shower after and
the director was like, oh my god, like you sure
that was your first time? And I said yeah, and
he's like, you're made for porn, and I was like
that's when my big head started growing.
Speaker 1: You know, you're a natural. Goddamn You can really convince
anyone to keep doing it, or at least do it
the second time. The first time you grab them and
you go you're fucking natural, you know that?
Speaker 2: Just and then I think what it was like the
next day I had a collab with them, so I
was like, okay, there you go, and it just works.
Speaker 1: I am. I have a lot of mainstream people that
come on this show, so I'm always very friend. Oh yes, yeah,
great the main stream. Isn't that the acting part? I
could really it's hard just do it without uh, no offense.
The acting's great. I don't really care that no offense.
I'm sure it's a tough time for you that you're
a real estate agent who's trying to sell this house
and there's leaks everywhere, and if only there was something
you could do. Yeah, I'm sure that's all great. I
really want to get to the part where you're fucking
though that's mad.
Speaker 2: I don't like the I don't like the lines I
do suck. I like those. I want to do more
scenes where there's like an actual character. Okay, you know,
I like the I like doing the parodies.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I just did like the freak Your Friday one like
a couple of months ago, and I was Lindsay Longhan
of ours, who.
Speaker 1: Was, uh, who is the mother character in this?
Speaker 2: Lindsay Lohan is technically the mother because it's for a
freakyer Friday. Then when I came out, and then there's
the grandma and then the daughter.
Speaker 1: So I was the mom okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 2: And then there's the grandma.
Speaker 1: I was going through your your charts basically looking at
everything you. I was like, milf this, milf that discuss No.
Twenty five, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, thirty one. Now, just turned thirty one last week?
Speaker 1: Wow you are? I turned thirty eight next month, I believe,
so I.
Speaker 2: Know I was. I was like thirty. I'm like thirty, thirty,
thirty and thriving thirty one. I'm like, we can stop now,
we don't need to hear any farther. I'm turning thirty again,
say thirty.
Speaker 1: So when'd you initially get into this, Like twenty seven,
twenty six, twenty six.
Speaker 2: I did only fans during COVID okay, off and on,
and then I got into porn, like mainstream porn. Last year.
I just had my one year after first three.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, okay, let me jump into some
of that content then, because I want to talk about
a couple of things. We do a thing on the
show called stat check Now, these numbers are entirely wrong. Okay,
they're totally wrong. None of them are accurate. They're all bullshit.
Anytime I say this too at the beginning, I go,
these numbers are wrong. I say the numbers. The girl
always responds back, those numbers are wrong. I know.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know if they're wrong or not, because I
don't know. I didn't even roll that stats are a thing.
Speaker 1: Now, well, you'll see what I mean by stats when
I start saying, so stat check seen. We use the
Internet Adult Film Database for this. It's like IMDb except
for porn. Now, what they count is most of your
mainstream stuff, some collabse, some not. This isn't included over
here that we just use it as a milestone. So
that way, when you're on a year from now and
you have like twelve AVN awards and we're like, oh, Jessica,
thank you for coming back. Hell, you know when you
still only have this number blah blah blah. So number
of scenes you've shot are twenty nine, number of guys
you've worked with twenty three seven girls. No, we only
do AVN on this only because it'd be hard to
do all the other st everything else. Yeah, I don't.
I have zero A V noms and zero wins. Is
that correct? Okay? All right?
Speaker 2: I hope we don't get like a Lisa nomination this year.
I don't foresee myself actually winning this year, but it
would be great to get a nomination for the best
like favorite like boobs the boob category. Okay, I don't
see myself getting the milk one, right because like I'm
pretty new in the milf scene, or like the new
starlet would be cool, but I'm going for the boobs.
I would. I would like to be known for best boobs.
Speaker 1: Proud of them, are you?
Speaker 2: Yes? I bought them myself before porn. That's why I'm
a male is because of my boobs.
Speaker 1: Did you ever look down at them as you were
thinking about getting into porn and go, well, I bought these?
I might well like fuck it? Why not?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry, my cat.
Speaker 1: It's totally cool. I'll show you my cat afterwards you
lose your mind. You'll be like, oh my god, that's
the cutest cat. He has a human name, too, Kay,
ask your cat's name?
Speaker 2: Yes, what's yours? First?
Speaker 1: Though, David?
Speaker 2: Oh you're okay, So mine's Gerald?
Speaker 1: Okay? Human names that's pretty cute.
Speaker 2: It's actually a family name. Mean what that name? And
I catch it not even thinking about it, but that's
like my grandpa's name. And he when my dad was
like yeah, like a child. So I was like, oh,
maybe he's reincarnated.
Speaker 1: Oh that's very cute. We adopted him. He's a little
one eyed British short hair cat ut okay. And he
doesn't scratch and he doesn't bite, and he does the
thing that dogs do where they put their teeth on
you if you're like tickling them, but he doesn't break skin.
Oh my god, how great are cats?
Speaker 2: I love cats. I just had to put one of
mine down. I'm like, the day before my birthday.
Speaker 1: We're twins. You want to hear how we're almost kind
of twins?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Three year My birthday's November twenty seventh. Okay, three years ago.
On November twenty six my dad was killed in a
work accident. Okay, it's okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: I've been a really good dad club too.
Speaker 1: It sucks, it's it's it's it's well, sometimes it sucks.
I've met people where they're kind of like, well, my
dad's dead. I'm like, oh my god, I'm so sorry,
they go, I'm not.
Speaker 2: In a well And here's the thing is like they're dead.
They've been dead for so long. It's just kind of like,
why why are you sorry? You're just sorry for yourself.
You had to hear me say that my dad's dead,
and you know what, my mom is dead too, So
I no one can ever give me your mama jokes.
And I love that, and I might growman cry at
the bar when they do like stupid dad jokes because
I will win every time, you know, I'll make you feel.
Speaker 1: Like shit, I still have I'm mom. But I sit
back and I think when I lost my dad, I
was really like, even though I'm a grown man and
my father was getting old and this and that, I
had a feeling like, oh, there's no one that can,
like who will have my back definitively, Like you all
have friends and they find this and that, but you
never know when your friends could kind of turn on
you or this, and I disagree with you.
Speaker 2: That's never I guarantee I've dealt with that a lot, right,
But someone family that you find close and everything else,
when they're gone, it's almost like, shit, my shield's gone,
you know, in a little bit of a way, like
I wouldn't have this guy at the boar beat me up.
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like that, but I know, but it was, like.
Speaker 2: Dad, Bro, like I freaking the other day, I got
a fucking flat tire and you know when I'm a
little low on cash, Well, bro, I'm sorry. You know
that sucks. You know, I'm going to be there for
your emotional support. Do you need another tire to be
put on?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And then he'll go and have we change a freaking tire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, I totally I get it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Here's the the other said part though, because you said
about your cat. The following year, November twenty seventh, my
actual birthday, the one year and one day anniversary, my
dad we had to put down my wife's twenty one
year old cat.
Speaker 2: All but that's a very long time.
Speaker 1: And she didn't get sick until the very the day.
The day she went was when she showed signs she
was going, like she went strong the whole fucking time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what I'm hoping Gerald will do. He's fat,
he's like a ginger cat, you know, but he's like
a cream color.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's very cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's like seven. And then I had a
six year old that I had to put down, but
he was like a special needs I think he was
an eurologically not all there, okay, but he I woke
up and he was not doing good and I took
him and I think he had an obstruction.
Speaker 1: Oh that's really sad.
Speaker 2: And then I got my twelve year old who has hyperthyroidism.
Speaker 1: So now are you doing the cream in the ear?
Is that hyper hypo?
Speaker 2: I think that's hypo. I do like two pills in
the morning and two and a half at night.
Speaker 1: Okay. We used to do cream in the ear every
night and then it eventually went to twice a day. Yeah,
she had a thyroid thing too. Anyway, Uh, I'll talk
to you fucking day about cats. By the way, all
right now, I'm just gonna have to hit this kind
of crudely right off the bat. But what would you oh,
where did the status? We're good with that. What would
you say has been and you still have a young career.
We just pissed the one year anniversary on your your
mainstream porn entrance. What would you say has been your
defining scene so far? Like if you if someone were
to say, hey, I can only watch one video of yours.
What is your best video that I should go check out?
Either you do the best in it, you look the
best in it. It's the most intense scene you've done. Like,
what is your quote unquote defining scene.
Speaker 2: That's a hard one, you know. I got the most
traction and people enjoying this scene, which is one of
my least favorite scenes because of what happens in it.
It's my glory whole swallow scene.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we have it's a tense. We have.
Speaker 2: It's intense. I think there was like seven guys, now
ten guys. There's ten guys and you have to take
each of their loads within two minutes.
Speaker 1: You are jumping two questions ahead every time we talk.
It is the most awesome thing. And I actually forgot
one of my old questions from section one that will
come back to because now we're talking about it. I
think you may be saying the wrong website too, because
it's in both secrets. I think it's the secrets. There's
a different one. Yeah, they're both. They're both ones. But
I think you've shot with the Okay, yeah, that's actually
on my prep sheet. Like to talk about this, Okay.
I enjoy those websites. I enjoy how they're shot. I
call them mid tiers. No offense to them, no offense.
It's strictly production wise. So my tears are top end
where everything's real beautiful. Director cinematography not necessarily my thing.
Speaker 2: I like the cinematic stuff.
Speaker 1: You do, so you do like that type of stuff
I do.
Speaker 2: I'm I just I think my two favorite ones are
like not out yet. I have like three coming out
that I don't know when they are. Two of them
are pentholes, okay, and one of them's hustler, and they
do more like cinematic nice stuff. And I just did
what is it called pornpoll dot com. It's a brand
new one, okay, but the guy, the director for that
one does like really cinematic stuff and like slow mo
while you're on the on the pole, and it's like,
I'm excited for that one, but visualizing for the visual sure,
but I would say, like the hardest one I've ever
done that I'm most proud of because it was so
I'm never swallowed come ever in my entire life. And
then I go to this glory whole scene and I
have to take ten loads well, and it's also like
not fully all the way down my esophagus, so like
I'm like sucking dick, and it's catching onto the stuff
that dust was in there and put it back out,
so I'm like coughing, like come out of my fucking esophagus,
and it's just like it. I don't know. I think
guys like to see if people struggle. Maybe that's what
it is like they I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I enjoy those websites. I
don't enjoy glory whole websites all the time. I enjoy secrets.
I enjoy swallows. And here's why I do. And by
the way, I like, I have a wife, like I
don't have any need for porn. I just I just
enjoy it. I think it's fun to watch. It's like
a psychological thing. I think I like them because of
kind of what you said there where when I see
someone hits eight or nine or ten, I go, oh,
this chick is a worker, Like it's maybe they cut
away after the.
Speaker 2: First one with this just no, it was straight through.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I have to ask a little
behind the scenes and don't you know if you don't
want to, I totally understand it, but I would assume
my own personal head. If I'm shooting that scene and
I'm in your shoes, lingerie, nakedness, whatever, I'm thinking to myself, Okay,
I'll swallow one, then I'll go throw it up and
drink some water. Come back, swallow the next one, drink
some water. So you just shot all the way through.
Speaker 2: All the way through. I mean, if you absolutely need
to cut, they will cut. But like, no, they have
like because right after you do a gangbang okay, so
so like they're also on a time crunch because those
those the male talent shows up as well for that.
So it's like you're on a time the country, get
everything done.
Speaker 1: I have to ask it, and it's it's it's I'm
not assuming this is true, but if I were to
watch those scenes, if I were to watch the gang
bang scene you said that occurred. Second, right, are you
giving your one hundred percent performance or are you like
at ninety? Like okay, I just got to keep the
smile going because my jaw is killing me right now.
Speaker 2: No, because gang banks are super easy. It's quick. It's
like thirty minutes, not even twenty thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, what goes? I mean? Is it just
is that planned at all? Is it like they used
to say, just go, just go, just jump in?
Speaker 2: So it's gonzo, it's it's you just get thrown into
the wolves.
Speaker 1: See. That's what I like, And that's why I say
I like those. I don't need like the beautiful cinematic
thing because I know a monster. I can't ever picture
a monster like myself in that beautiful scene by the
ocean and you have you know, Jennifer White or whoever
beautiful with the drapes. No, no, no, I'm more of a pig.
I also don't necessarily need to be in the bottom
tier where you hear like copywritten music in the background
playing and you're like, oh, they don't have the rights
to rage against the machine in this fucking porn video.
So I like where maybe they don't have the best
camera and the best cinemata, or they do have a
really great camera, they don't need a lot of cinematography.
They just kind of set up and go Jessica, go
to work. Yeah, those I enjoy personally.
Speaker 2: They have like a they have a side camera and
then they have an up top camera as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Eventually, I would like to do more cinematic things. I
think that, like I'm well, I'm actually looking into doing
some some improv classes and stuff just to like get
into a little bit more acting portion because I would
like to do more of like the movie style eventually,
within like the next maybe couple of years.
Speaker 1: Sure does does does the acting portion and fit your personality?
Prior to coming into porn or now.
Speaker 2: Well, I used like I was in drama, like okay
class growing up, you know, and I was like a
figure skater, so like I always was in like characters,
you know, figure skating, you pick a character, you know,
presented on like the skates you know, and judges and shows.
So I was like Annie. I was always you know,
what's so wild? I was always a redhead figure skating.
I'm a blonde. Naturally.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask how real is the hair
because it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: I get asked all the time if it's real. But
it's because I pick like the most like orange ginger color. Ever. Sure,
I don't want it to be fire engine, but I
was like always Annie, it was always aerial, Okay, you know,
and now, like I just have red hair and I'm
in porn, so I guess it just fits.
Speaker 1: I get it. That makes sense to me. Are you
going to be the type? Are you making the red
hair your or will you eventually change it? You think
once I.
Speaker 2: Would would like to change it. I would like to
actually just have like my natural hair all together. But
I kind of started porn in with it, so now
it's kind of I would say, within the next like
three years, I'm going to keep it for a long time,
but who knows, it might be even harder to change
it then.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, were there any like kinks or niches or
fetishes or anything like that that you thought you would
have no interest in pursuing coming into porn where you're
maybe like I don't want to ever do that. Maybe
I ended up shooting a scene like that something and
you decide, oh, that's actually kind of fun. I do
kind of like that. Has anything changed your mind in porn?
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't done anything super crazy in my opinion,
Like I haven't done anything for like kink or anything. No,
I haven't done any bondage. I haven't done anal So
it's like, I mean, like everything else I feel like
it's so like normal, but I mean, is it though?
Like my brain now is completely different than it was
a year ago.
Speaker 1: My brain's been fucked since sixth grade. Okay, Like that
was the first time we had the spice channel and
it kind of decoded a little and you could see
the you know.
Speaker 2: Waves, You can see one nipple it.
Speaker 1: Well exactly, and that's just the whole night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're like, you're gonna be thinking about that
one nipple the whole time. Yeah, go for hours on that.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah no, yeah, and and and so when I
have to say that, I'm like I have to step
outside and be like, what do normal people consider to
be normal? Right? I saw a scene I didn't watch.
The whole scene wasn't necessarily my thing, but I saw
a scene where you were riding a guy and then
another guy was fucking that guy, and I was like,
this is like.
Speaker 2: Uh, was it all three of us on top of
each other? It was?
Speaker 1: It was it was it was the one guy that
you were fucking laying on the bed and the other
guy came and just kind of slid in this guy.
And I was like, well, I think I'm done with
this episode. It's fine. It's fine for people who enjoy it.
I'm not not my preference.
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, that might be something. Yeah, I probably wouldn't
think about being into the BYE area. I've only done
like two byzines and then the rest have been like
because like collabse or stuff, you know. But I don't
really consider myself being part of the BYE portion. I'm
more of a straight okay, but I mean I don't
mind if that's what you know. I mean most of
the guys are gay for pay anyways.
Speaker 1: Okay, is that okay? All right, we've all heard that
for about thirty years and thank you for confirming it. Yes, yes,
So they say, sure, have you ever had to this is? Uh,
I'm only ask you to name the person at all.
I won't. I won't, I won't. It's a rude question.
Have you ever shown up on set and seen the
guy you're gonna have to fucking been like, it's gonna
be a long day? Yeah? And was it a looks thing?
Was it a hygiene thing? Was it a reputation? It's
been there's been enough Copple. Actually, surprisingly one was a
looks and penis too small, too big, too small, God,
too small like, like, okay, step outside of the industry again,
you're you're a woman working in marketing.
Speaker 2: All oh, it was normal size.
Speaker 1: How does that get into porn? Then?
Speaker 2: Well, he works for himself.
Speaker 1: Got you. That's the real easy way to not have it.
Fucking matter. Huh, doesn't matter what I look like, as
long as provide the flight, hotel and pay for it
and put it up on a website. Maybe depending on
the girl.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, And then another person was because
of their hygiene teeth specifically.
Speaker 1: I just ask some girl that day the other day,
what is breath like on set? I'm a real important
breath person. If you, I don't care how hot you are.
Speaker 2: Just has plaque on their teeth.
Speaker 1: That's gross when you can see it. Yeah, oh my god. Okay,
But to answer the question about breath, do people have
a good breath on set?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm the person that I like. I brush my
teeth before I go to set. I brush my teeth
right before I'm doing even Pretty Girls, and then before
we start the scene, I'll brush my teeth, and then
after the scene, I'll brush my teeth. Wonderful, I'm like,
But I also have VISI line, so I'm like, sure,
and I have like the breath drops, I have like
all this extra stuff. I just deepens. Not not everyone
can hate. Uh. Some people have situations with their mouth.
Usually some of them is like veneers, Okay, I can
help it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can throw a mint in there though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and people do, but sometimes it doesn't always work
the whole time, and it's just it is what it is,
and it's honestly, it's their dentists that messed up, so
you should Well.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to come down on any of them
my personally. I just I if I saw I use
thinking about that in mainstream movies too, I'm like, did
Brad Pitt have tuna that day when he was kissing
the chick? Because I hate that.
Speaker 2: My thing is is like all these freaking celebrities are
getting like veneers, and like, I know, their fucking mouth
is rank. How come no one's talking about their mouth
being rank.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that, but veneers stink.
Speaker 2: You're saying, yes, they have a near breath some people,
but some people I wouldn't say. If you had a
good dentist who did the veneers correctly, it should be fine. Sure,
But some people what happens is like, and I'm not
the most educated on it. Okay, sure they maybe drill,
they take too much of the enamel off of the
tooth and it starts rotting into the in the veneer,
and so then you have a rotting tooth underneath the
veneer the cap. Yeah, that's why most people what they
should be doing is just taking a little bit off
and getting like the porcelain, you know, yeah copper, like
the front facing, not the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what kind of teeth. The guy with the
small dick had though he still had a small dick.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was nice.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, that's great. That's what old guys want to hear.
You dick smell, but you're nice.
Speaker 2: I was getting angry halfway in because I was like, God,
I just want this to be over.
Speaker 1: All right? What type what type of content? If I
head over to your only fans? Am I going to
see at Jessica dot Aaron AA r E N. Are
you a daily poster of a picture? Are you a
weekly poster? Are you a monthly full video? Or what
are we doing? What is like the structure?
Speaker 2: Whenever I remember and or if somebody messages me for
a custom I'll like, I like the customs. I think
I just fell out of love for only fans because
it's just of everything else in my daily life. It's
another thing that I have to remember to be active on. Okay,
you know, sure, I just need to be better about it,
to be honest. Okay, all right, I'm trying.
Speaker 1: You try this in New Year's resolution that we're coming
up with it.
Speaker 2: Way I can find somebody to, like, you know, sit
in my ear and be like, hey, you need to
post this, this and this today, and I'll be like, Okay,
maybe I just need guidance. I just need somebody a
guide me to make posts every day.
Speaker 1: Do you And I know, I know that's not what
you're talking about in this sense, but do you have
any mentors in the industry, anyone who's like helped you along?
Or I see online all you girls, I would think
from the outside again using dumb brain over there, I
would be like, oh my god, it must be so
fucking caddy and nasty in the porn industry, all these
girls going at each other to beauty contest. No, you
all seem like really nice with each other and sweet.
Has anyone like been a mentor for you have you
kind of figured it out yourself.
Speaker 2: I've kind of had to do it myself here. And
I feel like different locations of porn have different environments.
Florida is very party, you know. There's a lot of
like big content houses, model houses there. There's quite a
few so and I feel like a lot of people
call mingle over there. La I feel like is exactly
the same saying people co mingle here in Vegas, people
don't really co mingle like that, if that makes sense. No. Yeah,
there's a lot of older I mean coming. It's just
so weird because I characterize myself as like the new
new porn stars. But usually those new porn stars are
usually like eighteen, nineteen to twenty five, you know, and
then there's me, thirty one, coming in and it's like
I have this work ethic of somebody who is older,
who just stays to themselves. And then but then I'm
still part of this new wave of new people, you know.
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe that's just Vegas though, because there's been
so many people who have come into the industry because
of COVID, you know, during the pandemic, even older people
like I've interviewed a lot of people who've come in
not even not old or older, but like you're saying,
not eighteen nineteen. But then again, all of you kind
of learned to do it on your own during COVID,
So maybe that's kind of the mindset now. Yeah, yeah,
we don't come mingle. We don't, but we're not angry
at anyone. It's just say, I got shit, I gotta
get done. Let's get it done. Do you want to
work with me on this ship? Let's get it done?
You know? Yeah, okay, all right? Is there a type
of I.
Speaker 2: Would like to do more things, but I think I
just need to Like it might be just Vegas, you think, so, Yeah,
they don't do like industry parties here like that.
Speaker 1: That surprises me. Why don't they?
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a lot of performance because there's
a lot of the older porn stars that live here
and I stick to themselves, or they have kids, got
or they're like in the swinger lifestyle, and I'm like, yeah,
that's great, but it's like, have you gone to a
swinger party? Me?
Speaker 1: Personally, I have not. I've interviewed a lot over the
last few weeks.
Speaker 2: Though, I I've gone to one and it was very just,
and none of the men were in like.
Speaker 1: I know, you were not interested in them, or they
weren't interested in you. I wasn't interested in Yeah, I
figured I was like, what the fuck are these guys
talking about? Okay, good makes.
Speaker 2: Sense, and the way they do it well. I didn't
go to like a like a like a swinger party
that was like industry people. Sure, I went to, like,
I guess, a normal swinger freaking play party. And then
me and my one friend that are like, he's in
only fans. He gets tested, I get tested. We have
a risk band. No one else has risk bands. So
you can't even be fucking anybody because I'm not going
to waste my test. I'm not going to validate my test.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, that doesn't make sense. I okay. So our
industry parties, like in industry swinger parties, is that like
everyone comes in tested for the most part, I'm guessing.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, if you're in the industry, it would
make sense that you would come in tested.
Speaker 1: It's so funny anytime. It's just the trope about porn
stars are just so far from the truth. Ready, all
you do is show up on set and get fucked
and get paid a lot of money. No, not true
at all.
Speaker 2: You haven't been. We haven't had an industry pay raise
in since the eighties.
Speaker 1: You girls are dirty and have STDs and this and that.
The cleanest people in the world, right, These tropes are
just entirely wrong about the porn industry.
Speaker 2: So we're probably the most cleanliest. We take Like when
it's on set, I'm taking like three showers to day.
Speaker 1: You told me you brush your teeth about twelve times
before you get the scene. Like, you know, I can't
imagine how clean your hair is because your fucking mouth
is shine.
Speaker 2: I try not to wash my hair that much because
you know, it's it's nice not to wash the hair.
It takes a while to drive, but the body have
to smell good.
Speaker 1: This is your job. This is like y, you know,
Like I.
Speaker 2: Kind of even like driving to LA and having a
shoot because like, when I drive to LA, I'm sitting
in the car for four and a half hour, you know,
do you singing and swast I'm like, uh no, I'm
all sweaty now, nervous sweats, you know, trying to get
to LA.
Speaker 1: I get it. I've waited for an interview in a
hot car for forty five minutes, just pouring sweat through
my suit.
Speaker 2: Well, and I am always early, Well, I'm always early.
I'm always like an hour early to my LA shoots.
Speaker 1: Why is that? Do you drive real fast? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I drive and I drive fast, but not only that.
I have anxiety about being late to anything. So and
I never know the what the traffic's going to be
like in LA.
Speaker 1: I've never been west of Pennsylvania. Okay, you know, I
couldn't tell you what traffic's like Jersey traffics dog shit, though,
if you're coming to Exotica, I'll let you know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my roommates actually going to Exotica.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Is she a performer? I can ask
the name or no?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lucy Lotus.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right. Oh I may have reached out
to her for an interview in the past. I don't know, Okay, Jessica,
where or I have a couple more questions, and they're
they're odd, kind of where are we going from here?
Do you want? It? Sounds like it's so funny because
you answer all the questions beforehand, because you're so good
at like just conversing. I my question to you is
where do you want your career to go from here? Now?
If I track back and go, well, you want to
start shooting more mainstream stuff, go ahead, you say it again.
Where would we like to see Jessica Aaron's career move
from this point?
Speaker 2: I would like to do more like not less MILF.
I do love the MILF, I'll still do it, but
I would like to do more like boyfriend girlfriend stuff,
or more girl next door or wife swap. I just
worked with Nadi America and I liked that. I would
like to do more stuff like that, Vixen, more penthouse hustler.
I would like to do like get on some like magazines,
maybe have a feature for some. I'm currently trying to
set up a time this year to go to Budapest
or Prague.
Speaker 1: Okay, Prog's a big shoot site, right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I would like to do that. I'm in
the process of trying to get everything worked out while
trying to figure out I want to move. I want
to move to a different apartment, so I'm like trying
to fit that plus my Florida trip, plus my New
York City trip. It's like there's a lot.
Speaker 1: Well it's tough to ask this though, So do you
see yourself more as a person who do you want
to do this for X amount of years? And then
I understand there's no definitive answer and no one will
hold you to this, but do you want to do
this for X amount of years? And then forty forty
five something like that, you go, I think I'm gonna
step away. Do you see yourself shooting like Guilf porn
someday or not?
Speaker 2: Guilf? No, now, Guilf. That's that I can probably say, no,
I would not. But like one is like, what's the
age your guilf is that? Like, are they going to
be like, oh, it's forty five. My dad would be
crazy to be a Guilf at forty five? Like, but
and I already look young. Yeah, I look twenty five
and I'm thirty, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have to be like one hundred and
twenty to do stop I think the way you're aging.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to do I would like to
try to invest and get multiple homes for just like
obviously myself, but then to one to rent out for industry. Sure,
that kind of stuff. Yeah, I just need to do
more investments.
Speaker 1: Personal question, are you good with money? Are you bad
with money? Bad with money too? Yeah? Wi, my wife
is so good with money and I have to almost
be like fucking take my shit away from me. I
see stuff and I go, we need that, we need
that right now on Amazon. Yeah, it's a real problem, dude.
I got Amazon packages day everything.
Speaker 2: I know. I was kind of bad. I bought this
nice mirror and I was like, it's an investment. I
can take pictures in it.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: It was like thirty five dollars.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a business right off to me, if
you have.
Speaker 2: The right I mean, everything's in business right now.
Speaker 1: It's pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: Like, I know, my tax lady just still foiled my
taxes from last year.
Speaker 1: Last question I have for you here, and it's an
odd one, but I always like to just judge it
based on the people who are in the industry and
what they think. And the answers to me have been
really surprising. It's not meant to be a gotcha or
negative or anything like that. What age should women be
allowed to get into porn legally? Go ahead, and then
I'll tell you what I've kind of been tracking from
all the other performers I've talked.
Speaker 2: I feel like it probably shouldn't be eighteen. Yes, legally
you're an adult, but I also don't think that, like
people in the military at eighteen should be sent out
to war either. So I'm I mean, they say your
frontal lobe developed at twenty five, but I mean then
I feel like you're kind of getting late to the
game of you know, of the tiktoks and twitters and Instagrams,
like people already having careers by the time they get
twenty five. I would probably see, like twenty one, I
think that's a good way to start drinking. I mean unfortunate,
Like I mean, granted, they are going to start partying
a lot and having gas money, they're going to spend
it willy nilly. You can only do so much though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's kind of been the consent we've we've
talked about it in this way. I use the exact
same reference. I go, if you can go die in war,
you should be able to shoot porn if you want to. Right,
You're mature enough for that. You're mature enough. But it
really comes down to where the number doesn't really matter
because there's eighteen year old who are mature enough to
do this and understand the complications of it.
Speaker 2: And then the thirty year olds that aren't even mature enough
to do this, and they get drugs and they you know,
they can't handle their stuff. You know, they go and party.
They're more worried about the partying than anything.
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like she's calling me out directly now, folks,
But no, I'm just kidding. Uh, But they get that.
So here was the kind of solution we came up with, right,
how about eighteen to twenty one? You can do cam
and solo stuff on only fans. Okay, you can make
money if you need to. That was the other concern.
It's some girls get kicked out of the house at sixteen,
they hit eighteen, they decide they want to do this.
I don't want to be the one to take that
away from them.
Speaker 2: Well, and then you also got to think about the
like the legislation side of it, which is kind of shitty.
I'm sorry to bring this up, but if you if
you put a stop on you know, the age of
being on these platforms and performing, then it's going to
hurt women. It's not really going to help hurt men.
Too much, right, it's gonna hurt the women of the world,
so and that aspect, it kind of makes me feel
kind of like ichy because like, you know, you're taking
away a woman's right.
Speaker 1: Totally totally. I think it's more the way I looked
at it at least, and again it's not I'm a
fucking middle aged dude, like it doesn't affect me at all,
but I always I did an interview early on with
this girl who was eighteen, found a job on sexy Jobs,
flew across the country on her own dime because she
was going to be paid back for it, booked a
hotel room, got to the hotel, called the guy no answer,
and I hear that, and I go like, yo, I
am that I not.
Speaker 2: Only fans people all the time. That's why I don't
fuck around with it.
Speaker 1: You know, I totally get it. It just it like that.
To me. I was like, yo, we need to like
protect people like that. But that's just a white night thing.
That's I have not considered, like you said at the time,
I did not consider like you said. Yeah, yeah, I
don't want to hurt why I don't want to take opportunities.
Speaker 2: Because what it is it's like once they go this step,
then it's what's the next step. And there's already a
war on sex sex workers. Yeah, so they're already trying
to take away I mean, my home state had I
think they're trying to pass a law that they can't
have porn hump.
Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a bunch of states already right.
Speaker 2: There is Texas and Florida is one of them. Michigan
is going to do it as well. But they also
they put in a clause I don't know if if
you read the Michigan one, which is the one I read,
they're trying to put a uh, transphobic law in place
where it's under the law for porn. So there the
headline says porn, but they're really attacking the trans the
trans community, and that's what's happening. And with these with
these bills, it's like they have a umbrella, oh, you know,
law that they're trying to get passed, but no one's
actually reading what's underneath and what the fine line printers. Yeah. Yeah,
the bill we're getting attacked.
Speaker 1: The bill to ban porn. It's sixteen hundred pages or whatever,
and you're like, well, what else is in there, because
like I think you could have wrapped this up in
three or four pages.
Speaker 2: Maybe they wanted to be as they wanted to be
as hard to read as possible.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, you know it's weird. But
by the way, that's when you step in you make
a separate of trad jess okay, and you get and
you do ludes. Just do ludes, okay, because these guys
are you know, church guys I don't want.
Speaker 2: To talk of just like having all these like freaking
sun dresses that go down to the.
Speaker 1: Floor, drags on the floor.
Speaker 2: I have actually thought about pissing them off that way
by doing like like because I don't know, I just
find it funny. There's some people that I'm willing to troll,
and the tradwives are the are the It's okay, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think you'd piss them. I think you might piss
the wives off, but I think you might get the
guys on that for real. Like if I wish.
Speaker 2: Back in North Adaytota and I do like a whole
shoot in the freaking fields like picking corn.
Speaker 1: Again, it might work. You don't know, there's an what
I've learned from interviewing people in this industry is there
is an audience for everything. Might not be the biggest audience,
but there's an audience for everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just so weird because I have the
tr like, I know the knowledge of tridwives. But the
thing is is all the tridewives that are on the
internet now, they're fake. They're fake tribewives. They're not. They
don't even like they just learned how to pickle, so
that the pickle. They just learned how to do sour dough.
Just now they're doing sour doll.
Speaker 1: Look. I'm I'm not religious at all, but COVID really
fucked me up. Where my wife and I are looking
for a house now, I'm looking for an acre of
property so I could grow my own food, not have
fucking microplastics all over the world.
Speaker 2: I real food, right, it's growing my own food. I
really do because it's like it's great. I loved it.
It tastes so much better.
Speaker 1: It tastes Yeah, I did tomatoes a few years ago.
They were good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you ever had a radish from the grocery store.
Speaker 1: I've never had a radish personally, No, what is a ratish?
Speaker 2: She is so good, like like we used to grow
like corse radish root.
Speaker 1: It makes radish is different. Horse radish is good. Radishes
are like fucking beats with no flavor.
Speaker 2: From the grocery store when you have them from your house,
like it's hot, it's spicy.
Speaker 1: Your cat is the cutest fucking cat in the world,
by the way he or she keeps tapping you on
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I guess tonight, Jessica Aaron. Jessica, thank you so much
for coming on with me.
Speaker 2: Thank you, I was I had such a great time.
Whenever you want me on again,