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<v Speaker 1>Yes, do you feel Yes, yes, you feel it. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good to know. Otherwise, the alternative is not something

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<v Speaker 1>that we want to talk about. This is not that

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<v Speaker 1>type of show. You are, but this is not that

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<v Speaker 1>type of show. So the question is, do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>that your life is aligned with the forces of the universe?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean all of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like some little bits that I sometimes think that

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<v Speaker 3>might be aligned.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well, what if I told you that you

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<v Speaker 1>could actually find a way to align yourself to these

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<v Speaker 1>forces so that you could be living in more love.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love that all the bits would be aligned.

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<v Speaker 1>All the bits, but not just more love, but also

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<v Speaker 1>more abundance, greater levels of health and well being. Your

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<v Speaker 1>soul's purpose would be completely revealed to you. Your talents

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<v Speaker 1>and special attributes would emerge. Mm hm, You'd be living

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<v Speaker 1>a limitless experience of life and become highly effective at

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he had me at love.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Yes, But for everyone else who wasn't there yet,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we're distilled a little bit more convincedly to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the episode. Apparently this is what we're all intended

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<v Speaker 1>to experience in this lifetime. But so few of us

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<v Speaker 1>are able to achieve. Now, what if I could bring

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<v Speaker 1>a group of non physical teachers to the show that

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<v Speaker 1>could help us find our way there. I would love that,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you would. So would you say that that

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<v Speaker 1>would be worth staying tuned in during the breakfour?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, then don't go anywhere, because by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode we're gonna know just how to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an episode of the Skeptic Musicians. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to miss it. And it starts now. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Will and I and unlike Moulder and Scully.

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<v Speaker 3>Both want to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

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<v Speaker 3>We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and

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<v Speaker 3>metaphysical world.

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<v Speaker 1>We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even

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<v Speaker 1>joined a coven.

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<v Speaker 3>Of witches and wait, you joined a coven?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, all in the interest of finding something, anything, that

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<v Speaker 1>will prove that there's something beyond this physical.

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<v Speaker 3>Three dimensional world we all live in.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the Skeptic metaphysics. Hey, welcome to the Skeptic

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<v Speaker 5>of Evisians.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Will, and today we're honored to have Gary Temple

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<v Speaker 1>Bodily a renowned chandler who has spent over a decade

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<v Speaker 1>bringing forth the spiritual wisdom of Joshua a group of

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<v Speaker 1>non physical teachers. Now, through thousands of channeling sessions and

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<v Speaker 1>his popular podcast Joshua Live and the Law of Attraction,

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<v Speaker 1>Gary has provided profound insights on topics like free will, manifesting,

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<v Speaker 1>shifting perspective, physical densities, and the Law of Attraction. Now

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<v Speaker 1>He's helped people from around the world view their lives

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<v Speaker 1>from a higher perspectives. He's also the author of for

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<v Speaker 1>books on spiritual understanding, including A Perception of Reality and

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<v Speaker 1>a Radical Change in Your Approach to Life. His work

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<v Speaker 1>has even been featured in a document titled The Teachings

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<v Speaker 1>of Joshua Today. Gary's here to share his incredible journey,

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<v Speaker 1>the wisdom is gained through the ten years of channeling

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<v Speaker 1>Joshua and how we can transform our life by realizing

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<v Speaker 1>that we're truly the creators of our own reality. We're

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<v Speaker 1>beyond excited to dive into the conversation. So welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Gary, How are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 3>Great?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Thanks so much, Gary, Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 4>having me.

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<v Speaker 3>We are thrilled to have you beyond thrill?

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<v Speaker 1>Did? Gary? We've got so much to talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>about and so little time, So I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>dive right into it, because we all know that we

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<v Speaker 1>are the creators of our own reality. At least we

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<v Speaker 1>know it here right If you're in the space, if

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to podcasts, if you if you study this

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<v Speaker 1>at all, you have heard that many many times. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is something different. The reality of putting into

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<v Speaker 1>effect is something completely different. So my biggest question to

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<v Speaker 1>you is how can we wake up and stop creating

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<v Speaker 1>the world we're living in right now? Because it is

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<v Speaker 1>a mess.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, your reality is awesome. Look at

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<v Speaker 4>you two, look at the show. Look at how much

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<v Speaker 4>fun you're having. Your world is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, You're right, But the world outside that

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<v Speaker 1>window is not so much. It is a little scary

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So only if you pay attention to it, only if

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<v Speaker 4>you but if you do not have social media, TV, radio, whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>you lived in your little town in Virginia with your

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<v Speaker 4>friends and your family and your loved ones and didn't

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<v Speaker 4>pay attention to that, you would not know because it

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<v Speaker 4>does not.

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<v Speaker 1>Affect you kind of, I mean it affects us in

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<v Speaker 1>a certain way, because, for example, we have a daughter

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<v Speaker 1>who's thirteen years old and her future is at stake

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<v Speaker 1>for lack of a better word, and if we act

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<v Speaker 1>like ostriches to put our faces in the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>just don't pay attention to what else is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not listening it out. I'm not sure how oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to help her? Or are you saying that

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps there's a way around it.

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<v Speaker 4>There is an illusion going on. Ah, this is an

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<v Speaker 4>illusion of separation.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now we're getting to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is forgetting who you are. This is an adventure

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<v Speaker 4>that you came into. You don't know anything. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>know anything. You have a set of beliefs. You want

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<v Speaker 4>certain things based in that set of beliefs, but if

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<v Speaker 4>those beliefs were different, you'd want different things. So adjusting

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<v Speaker 4>your beliefs from limiting to empowering will shift your perspective

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<v Speaker 4>of yourself in your reality. If you are focused on

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<v Speaker 4>what's going outside of you in an attempt to control

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<v Speaker 4>that so that you feel better, it's never going to

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<v Speaker 4>work because you can't control any of that. If you're

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<v Speaker 4>projecting something into the future, you don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 4>to happen. You couldn't have imagined what would happen in

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<v Speaker 4>the last five years of all kinds of different things.

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<v Speaker 4>You couldn't have imagined COVID happening. You couldn't have imagined

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<v Speaker 4>a million different things happening. But do they really affect you?

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<v Speaker 4>And what is your basis for wanting things to be

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<v Speaker 4>a certain way? It's this not knowing. We all would

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<v Speaker 4>feel better if we knew, but empirically there's no way

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<v Speaker 4>to know anything. For instance, you think you know your

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<v Speaker 4>birth date, that's just a belief. You have some evidence

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<v Speaker 4>for it. You have a birth certificate, you've got your

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<v Speaker 4>parents saying that was the date, and so you have

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<v Speaker 4>some understanding that that was the date you were born.

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<v Speaker 4>But you could have been switched out with another baby,

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<v Speaker 4>they could have had some scandal going on. You never know, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And people find us all the time, good God, Gary, Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>this idea that we know something is just really, we

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<v Speaker 4>have beliefs about things, and we have a certain amount

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<v Speaker 4>of evidence for certain beliefs, and we have no evidence

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<v Speaker 4>for other beliefs. But in general, our lives are the

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<v Speaker 4>sum total of our beliefs. That's our mental construct. That

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<v Speaker 4>mental construct then begets a perspective, a general perspective in

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<v Speaker 4>every area of your life, and that perspective is translated

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<v Speaker 4>into a vibration. That vibration then creates the reality. So

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<v Speaker 4>if you can shift that perspective higher by definition, you

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<v Speaker 4>raise your vibration and you attract a different reality. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 4>there's two default perceptions of reality. The one we're all

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<v Speaker 4>born with, which is the victim meaning we believe that

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<v Speaker 4>outside conditions and people can make us feel something. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the fear based mentality that we all grew up with.

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<v Speaker 4>We feel something and it seems like that event caused

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<v Speaker 4>to feel something, but what really caused us to feel

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<v Speaker 4>something was a belief, and without that belief, we could

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<v Speaker 4>not feel anything. And so this process then of ascension

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<v Speaker 4>is adjusting those beliefs from limiting to empowering. The other

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<v Speaker 4>possible belief system is that you're the creator of your

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<v Speaker 4>reality and that how you interpret the outside reality is

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<v Speaker 4>indicative of how you feel. So the reality is what

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<v Speaker 4>it is, It's created by your unique perception of it

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<v Speaker 4>yournique belief system. Everyone's different and you can choose to

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<v Speaker 4>see that reality from a limited perspective perceiving yourself as

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<v Speaker 4>a victim in that circumstance, or from a higher perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>perceiving yourself as a creator in that circumstance. If you

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<v Speaker 4>perceive that you're a victim, you're going to feel negative emotion.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the simple, basic form of guidance. You've heard that

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<v Speaker 4>many times before. Your emotions are simply guidance. The negative

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<v Speaker 4>emotion indicates that you're perceiving reality inaccurately.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I'm a questioned about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent, about just one, but it's about the experience.

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<v Speaker 3>So about I don't know, like maybe twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>I woke up one night and there's a man in

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<v Speaker 3>there was stuff to tie me up and all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had never feared that. I never really even

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<v Speaker 3>thought about that, but it scared that hell out of me.

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<v Speaker 3>So are you saying that that emotion that I have

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<v Speaker 3>was already explained that to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, in that circumstance.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're going very extreme, which is fine. Look at

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<v Speaker 4>that event from a limited perspective. You could have been killed,

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<v Speaker 4>you could have been something terrible happened. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>that person should not have been there and not existed.

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<v Speaker 4>What a horrible thing that happened to you? Right, the

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<v Speaker 4>victim and telling from twenty years later, you look at it, go,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what? That incident shaped my life from then on,

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<v Speaker 4>everything that I've come to appreciate and learn and grow

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<v Speaker 4>that influenced all this growth. I wouldn't be where I

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<v Speaker 4>am now had that event not occurred. I understood that

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<v Speaker 4>I was able to survive it, that I moved on

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<v Speaker 4>from it, that I got to reconcile it, and that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm at a so much more evolved place now because

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<v Speaker 4>of it. Nothing actually bad happened. It was traumatic at

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<v Speaker 4>the time, but I'm fine now. So two different ways

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<v Speaker 4>to look at the same event, one as the creator

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<v Speaker 4>looking at it from this higher perspective, and one as

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<v Speaker 4>the victim. Oh, I got lucky, right, and that should

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<v Speaker 4>never have happened. Now, what does that mean in your life? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>from this higher perspective, which let's see, may not be true.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have any evidence that is true. You are

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<v Speaker 4>empowered by that. You're not feeling negative emotion about that.

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<v Speaker 4>This you guys dived into like a really traumatic subject.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, So everyone wants to go to the most,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the worst thing that could possibly happen at

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<v Speaker 4>things every time in life. So I have something that

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<v Speaker 4>came to me today that I think that will help

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<v Speaker 4>anyone who's got any you know, issues with family or friends.

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<v Speaker 4>So imagine that you have a son and you are

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get him ready to for school because you

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<v Speaker 4>have an appointment with a realtor at nine point thirty

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<v Speaker 4>and he's just not cooperating. And it's the same thing

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<v Speaker 4>all the time. He never get us up in time.

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<v Speaker 4>He never does the same time. So you have this

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<v Speaker 4>disagreement and you maybe yell at him and push him

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<v Speaker 4>along and get him going. Why because you want to

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<v Speaker 4>make this appointment with the realtor. Joshua talks about there's

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<v Speaker 4>things you think you want and things.

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<v Speaker 1>You truly want.

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<v Speaker 4>So in this instance, you truly want a wonderful relationship

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<v Speaker 4>You know me, the real turn time, have her have

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<v Speaker 4>you look at the traumatic things in your life. You

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<v Speaker 4>want me to tell you a story about my partner, Christy?

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<v Speaker 1>Would Christy want you to tell us a story?

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<v Speaker 4>her that she hasn't seen him twenty years and says,

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<v Speaker 4>come and visit me in North Carolina, and she goes,

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<v Speaker 4>him for a long time, and she's she's got Christie's

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<v Speaker 4>got a hide, a different move around and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>stay low and finally catch them and they go through

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<v Speaker 4>She realizes that that started her spiritual journey. And while

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<v Speaker 4>it was tragic, everyone was playing their part in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Her boyfriend who died, the ex husband who's now in prison,

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<v Speaker 4>and Christy. It was all set up to launch Christy

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<v Speaker 4>on this spiritual journey. It's an amazing journey that she's

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<v Speaker 4>or you can look at it from the higher perspective. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>we could be wrong. Maybe this was just a terrible

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<v Speaker 4>we know there's a non physical that in the non physical,

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<v Speaker 4>pre birth agreements, all these things. It doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing is empowered. How someone might feel about something

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>She made a choice to make it mean something to

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<v Speaker 4>What we get told over and over and over again

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<v Speaker 4>It's all happening for your benefit. Everyone goes to the

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<v Speaker 4>most extreme things, and that is this. We are living

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<v Speaker 4>in polarity, right, We are experiencing polarity white, black light, dark, good, bad. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Ice cream no ice cream.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're existing in duality that this part of that

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<v Speaker 4>range is good, but that part is bad. And if

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<v Speaker 4>we can realize, we need, like Abraham says, the entire

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<v Speaker 4>buffet so that everyone could have the experiences that they

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<v Speaker 1>So everything happens for a reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything happens for you, for literally for you. Everything happens

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<v Speaker 1>And we've heard that before and again It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where up here I got it. I got it, Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally get it. However, here is holy different. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Karen. Do you get it? Does it resonate with you more?

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<v Speaker 3>I mostly get it, But every once in a while

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of fall back into really you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't help thinking, you know, you're telling us Christy's story,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can't help thinking about the boys friend. How

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<v Speaker 3>was that beneficial for him? You know? But then I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to sometimes I have to like talk myself

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<v Speaker 4>That is vulnerability, because to have a belief like that,

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<v Speaker 4>where it's okay that someone transitioned to the non physical,

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<v Speaker 4>the non physical is not a bad place. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>wonderful place. You know, he's ready. It's the timing that

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<v Speaker 4>opens you up to no control over your death, for instance,

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<v Speaker 4>And so you ever notice that when anyone dies, everyone

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<v Speaker 4>asks how do you die? So that you can control?

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<v Speaker 4>You don't want to die that way, right, That's the reason.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I hadn't done it that way? But you're

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<v Speaker 4>We have a joke that says, when we die, we

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<v Speaker 1>No, people know me too much. I want to die

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<v Speaker 1>screeching into like home plate or something something completely differweeded

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<v Speaker 1>what awo? So then the question, though, is because I

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<v Speaker 1>say it's all good when I break my ankle in Europe,

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, you're not really fully in three D.

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<v Speaker 4>You're probably you know, in the top two percent, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So you're up there, your your perspective is very high. Ready, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>when some event happens, Joshua calls it a manifestation event.

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<v Speaker 4>The manifestation event comes because you're not aware of a

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<v Speaker 4>preventing you from acting on inspiration. Your inner self is

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<v Speaker 4>sending you inspiration all the time, but this belief causes

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<v Speaker 4>you to either knock away that belief before it even

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<v Speaker 4>you hear the inspiration, you're like, I can't do that

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<v Speaker 4>or that's impossible. Right, it's that belief belief That belief

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<v Speaker 4>in order for your inner self to get you to

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<v Speaker 4>take some action on this inspiration, first it has to

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<v Speaker 4>put you in a situation where you can discover this

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<v Speaker 4>limiting belief. Once you discover an aware of this limiting belief,

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<v Speaker 4>you can prove it's not true. For instance, I have

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<v Speaker 4>a friend who will not fly. He will not go

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<v Speaker 4>on an airplane. He believes that this dangerous, but we

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<v Speaker 4>self is it. So we use this evidence for ourselves to

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<v Speaker 1>Else called the laws of physics.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, so we're able to push past the fear to

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<v Speaker 4>act on our inspiration to fly to Paris. He will

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<v Speaker 4>His belief that plane travel is dangerous prevents him from

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<v Speaker 4>himself that that belief is not true, the next time

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<v Speaker 4>he's inspired to go on a plane, he might be

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<v Speaker 4>that limiting belief, he's got all this evidence. Well, you

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<v Speaker 4>can do that with any limiting belief, because all limiting

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you didn't even realize is your limiting belief.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you feel deep done. It sound like

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<v Speaker 3>you don't deserve a break a vacation. Went to Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 3>first day in, got COVID, go to Europe first day

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, Karen, you are I mean you hit the

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<v Speaker 4>nail on the head of that one too, and that

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<v Speaker 4>COVID and the broken ankle. Are these manifestation events showing

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<v Speaker 4>you that you have this, you want. This is not

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<v Speaker 4>responsible feeling, right, I shouldn't be taking this time off.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to cover the bills and pay for these things.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. It's not that you don't deserve it, it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's irresponsible. You're not doing the manly thing by taking

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<v Speaker 4>You believe that Karen loves you because you take care

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<v Speaker 4>then she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not going to you anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>That has nothing to do with it. It's your energy

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<v Speaker 4>that she's attracted to and loves. Well, thank you in

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<v Speaker 4>the fact you're doing the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean thank you. Thank you first, yes, I thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for calling me out the bus hurt. But however,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that I hear what she's saying in I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so those two things are unusual. Get in COVID

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<v Speaker 4>you have to look at that. Go that's pretty weird.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, how often does those two things.

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<v Speaker 1>Happen on vacation in years?

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<v Speaker 4>Both times perfect? Right, So they're just showing you that

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<v Speaker 4>you have an identity that you believe is the reason

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<v Speaker 4>that your family loves you. That's just limiting obviously, right,

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<v Speaker 4>It's not true. Where in your life can you see

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<v Speaker 4>that you don't have to take care of everything for them.

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<v Speaker 1>To love you?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, was there a point where you couldn't do anything

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<v Speaker 4>and they still loved you? Or you look at something

427
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<v Speaker 4>in your life. Where has it been in my life

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<v Speaker 4>where I wasn't able to take care of everything but

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<v Speaker 4>they still love me anyway? Or I wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 4>do this thing I want to do, but they still

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<v Speaker 4>love you anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I would bring it back to getting coved in

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<v Speaker 1>Hawaii and breaking my ankle in your foot, because even

434
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<v Speaker 1>though I had a broken ankle in Europe the first

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<v Speaker 1>day of a three week well second day off a

436
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<v Speaker 1>three week European dication, she went out of her way

437
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<v Speaker 1>to make sure I felt comfortable, helping me and knowing

438
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<v Speaker 1>that it's all good. We're going to make this strip

439
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<v Speaker 1>worthwhile regardless. So yes, I do I do see that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I have the proof. Am I testing her?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I am not testing not testing you.

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<v Speaker 4>You are finding evidence in your own life how you

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't be the one taking care of everything and you

445
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<v Speaker 4>were still loved and taking.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Care of and we were still fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you will always be fine. You lose everything,

448
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<v Speaker 4>you will still be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's back to what you said earlier, which is

451
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<v Speaker 1>that change of perspective. That change of perspective is perspective,

452
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<v Speaker 1>is what's going to what's going to move the needle

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<v Speaker 1>for you? And that's what this is all about, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's about listening to Joshua. It's about listening to

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<v Speaker 1>these types of shows. It's about doing your meditation. It's

456
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<v Speaker 1>about reading the books and living the spiritual life, knowing

457
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<v Speaker 1>that there's more to it than than this will Oh,

458
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<v Speaker 1>there's so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It's about making a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>True. True.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about opening up those belief systems. I was exactly

462
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<v Speaker 4>like well, I was a total skeptic and the stuff

463
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<v Speaker 4>that I've experienced in the last eleven years is just

464
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<v Speaker 4>mind blowing. My belief system is completely chained, but it's

465
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<v Speaker 4>through experience and every day I had to push past

466
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<v Speaker 4>fear to do these woo woo things that I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny this show. I love this show so

468
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<v Speaker 1>much because it goes in these ways. Right. Exactly what

469
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<v Speaker 1>we are focused on is the guests that we attract

470
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<v Speaker 1>to the show at the perfect time. We just talked

471
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<v Speaker 1>about this, I get all kinds of signs from the universe.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Karen Is the previous show talked about how I like

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<v Speaker 1>to say that the universe starts with a whisper and

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<v Speaker 1>ends with the two by four of the head.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going ale.

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<v Speaker 1>That two by four. I am sick of getting it

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<v Speaker 1>over the head, over the ankle because it continues to

478
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<v Speaker 1>do it. And yet we get guests after guests seeing

479
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<v Speaker 1>the same things that you're saying to me about or

480
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<v Speaker 1>to us, to the audience, to all of us. But

481
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<v Speaker 1>that you have to listen to it. You have to

482
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<v Speaker 1>look at it. And Andy even take this step because

483
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<v Speaker 1>you can internalize it and you can say, oh yeah,

484
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<v Speaker 1>I know this sight and I can. I can, what's

485
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<v Speaker 1>intellectualize everything and explain everything away. But if you don't

486
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<v Speaker 1>live it, that's the rub.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, you know what Before you answer that, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a break and we'll be right back. We hope you're

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying this conversation as much as we have. If you

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<v Speaker 1>know someone who would benefit from hearing the message we're

492
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<v Speaker 1>sharing on the show, do them and us a favor.

493
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<v Speaker 1>And share the show with them. It will help get

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<v Speaker 1>the word out about us, and it might just change

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<v Speaker 1>someone's life for the better. Hey, guys, will here. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to share another five star review that came in.

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<v Speaker 1>Really love this one and I couldn't wait to share

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<v Speaker 1>with you. It was, like I said, a five star

499
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<v Speaker 1>and the topic or the subject line says a true blessing.

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<v Speaker 1>This review came from Angela Burgess, and Angela left us

501
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<v Speaker 1>a review on our skepticmtozian dot com website. She goes on,

502
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<v Speaker 1>I love your show and listen daily. Thank you so much.

503
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<v Speaker 1>My mother passed away last December, suddenly and unexpectedly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have had a very hard time dealing with her loss.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry to hear of your los Angela. I

506
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<v Speaker 1>can imagine how hard that must be. She goes on

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<v Speaker 1>to say, your show has helped me tremendously. She and

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<v Speaker 1>I have always had this deep connection that was very

509
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<v Speaker 1>obvious to us, but we never really explored the what

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<v Speaker 1>or the why, which is honestly because of fear that

511
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<v Speaker 1>people wouldn't understand. We always shared an almost telepathic connection,

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<v Speaker 1>but never really acknowledged this to others. Since her passing,

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<v Speaker 1>I've suffered a loneliness and emptiness I can't even describe

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<v Speaker 1>because I no longer feel her presence. I feel in

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<v Speaker 1>my bones that I will find her someday and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be together again, but I don't know when or how.

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<v Speaker 1>Your show has enlightened me to many ideas and believed

518
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<v Speaker 1>from people, and given me hope that something wonderful awaits

519
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<v Speaker 1>us after our physical deaths. I know the connection my

520
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<v Speaker 1>mother and I with head was real, and the void

521
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<v Speaker 1>I experienced now is real. Your show has given me

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<v Speaker 1>both hope and comfort, and I thank you for that. Angela.

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<v Speaker 1>My heart goes out to you. I can only imagine

524
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<v Speaker 1>the whole that you must have in your heart. The loneliness,

525
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<v Speaker 1>I can feel it, I can sense it just from

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<v Speaker 1>the words that you wrote to us. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for sharing us with us. We are unbelievably grateful,

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<v Speaker 1>sincerely that we have been able to help you in

529
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<v Speaker 1>some small way. Losing love one, especially someone that had

530
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<v Speaker 1>you had such a deep connection with it like you

531
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<v Speaker 1>have with your mother, I'm sure must be just unbelievably

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to get through. So we're thrilled that we can

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<v Speaker 1>help you in some small way and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there listening or watching have

535
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<v Speaker 1>gone through the same thing. So if you have some

536
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<v Speaker 1>words of encouragement or recommendations, suggestions that Angela could possibly

537
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<v Speaker 1>put in place to help her with her heart, please

538
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<v Speaker 1>feel free to send us a note. We will pass

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<v Speaker 1>it along to Angela so that she can know that

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<v Speaker 1>she's not by herself. It's not just awesome listening to

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<v Speaker 1>our show, but also a community of people that are

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<v Speaker 1>there for her as well. All Right, thank you Angela

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<v Speaker 1>so much for sending this to us. That really means

544
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<v Speaker 1>a lot to us. Thank you for the five star review,

545
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<v Speaker 1>and we really hope that your heart heals very very quickly.

546
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<v Speaker 1>And if there's anything we can do, please don't have

547
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 1>to say to reach out now. If you'd like to hear

548
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>your email or your review read on the air, just

549
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.519
<v Speaker 1>go to skeptic medeposition dot com. You can send us

550
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<v Speaker 1>an email or a voicemail directly from the site, or

551
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>even better, go to Apple Podcasts and leave us a

552
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>five star review there. That will go a long way

553
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<v Speaker 1>towards providing social proof the people that are looking for

554
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<v Speaker 1>this type of content that this show is actually worth

555
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<v Speaker 1>their while. All Right, once again, Angela, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much from the bottom of my heart. You're not alone

557
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<v Speaker 1>hanging there. It will get better. Let's get back to

558
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<v Speaker 1>the show. We get guests after guest seeing the same

559
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<v Speaker 1>things that you're saying to me about or to us,

560
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<v Speaker 1>to the audience, to all of us, that you have

561
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<v Speaker 1>to listen to it. You have to look at it

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<v Speaker 1>in any even take this step, because you can internalize

563
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<v Speaker 1>it and you can say, oh yeah, I know this

564
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<v Speaker 1>sight and I can I can what's intellectualize everything and

565
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<v Speaker 1>explain everything away. But if you don't live it, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the roup.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the thing. I'm intellectual, you're intellectual. Men tend to

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<v Speaker 4>be an intellectual. It is an intellectual start. You're got

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<v Speaker 4>an ego voice going on saying, oh yeah, don't be weird.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you doing? You know, no one's going to

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<v Speaker 4>read this book, no one's going to listen to your podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are you wasting this time? And you'll you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and you have to That ego.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there for a purpose.

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<v Speaker 4>It keeps you alive, right, and it's going to try

576
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<v Speaker 4>and keep you safe, and you're going to have fear

577
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<v Speaker 4>with every inspired idea. That's just what happens. You have anice,

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to trigger some living belief. You can't get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of your limiting beliefs. You can only soften them

580
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<v Speaker 4>so that they're not limiting. But to have the experience

581
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<v Speaker 4>is where you get the information. Abraham's famous words words,

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<v Speaker 4>don't teach experience teachers. We're having this conversation. People are

583
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<v Speaker 4>listening passively, they're learning, they're getting some concepts, and then

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to have an experience, and that experience is

585
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<v Speaker 4>going to cement what they've heard here in other places, right,

586
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<v Speaker 4>and then they're going to get be inspired to do

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<v Speaker 4>something they would never do before, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>have fear. And that's when they stop. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to go to this retreat. I'm going to take this course.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to, you know, talk to this, talk to

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<v Speaker 4>my friends about this. This is one of the scary

592
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<v Speaker 4>things in this community spirituality is we're sort of all

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<v Speaker 4>in this alone. The rarity of a couple that's on

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<v Speaker 4>the same page is unbelievable, you know, But more often

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<v Speaker 4>than not, you have friends out there who are secretly

596
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<v Speaker 4>listening to this stuff but not wanting to talk it

597
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<v Speaker 4>in case they sound weird to their friends. But everyone

598
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<v Speaker 4>knows somebody. And when you start opening up to your

599
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<v Speaker 4>friends about the little things even meditation, you know, or

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<v Speaker 4>affirmations or little things like that, you can find this community.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what helps, is really to have that friendship community,

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<v Speaker 4>and probably all your listeners join this community that sort

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<v Speaker 4>of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's easy, you know you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>you have these conversations, that you have an experience, and

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<v Speaker 2>then from the experience you go on. I think, unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>it's so easy and so much more I guess common

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<v Speaker 2>for people to try to explain that experience away as

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<v Speaker 2>a coincidence, Oh that was just because of this or

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<v Speaker 2>that was, and not to really just accept that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it was a miracle.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that is such a good point, because this is

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<v Speaker 4>what we all do. Something which we call unimaginable happens,

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<v Speaker 4>and the instinct is to explain away because that keeps

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<v Speaker 4>you safe. Yes, it can't be woo woo, wo can't

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<v Speaker 4>really be true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we have.

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<v Speaker 4>Christy and I started a new podcast called an Unimaginable Life,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>We started this like in December and we're doing one

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<v Speaker 4>or two a month, and then we started. She was

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<v Speaker 4>doing these medium readings. She's unbelievable. And there are spiritual

626
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<v Speaker 4>medium readings where the person's relatives, dead relatives will come

627
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<v Speaker 4>in only to introduce them to their spirit guides. So

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<v Speaker 4>generally someone will have three spirit guides, and the spirit

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<v Speaker 4>guides will give this amazing information about how to move

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<v Speaker 4>forward in their lives. There's really two types. There's the

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<v Speaker 4>ethereal spirit guide that's a god or an angel or

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<v Speaker 4>something that's familiar. You know, they have names and you

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<v Speaker 4>can look them up and google them. And then there'll

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<v Speaker 4>be a person, a human, someone who was a human

635
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<v Speaker 4>before as a spirit guide. And I found these fascinating

636
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<v Speaker 4>because they would really relate and there'd be these interesting

637
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<v Speaker 4>people you never heard of before. So we started in

638
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.800
<v Speaker 4>our podcast doing dead talk, and dead Talk is we

639
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 4>have Q cards and we have four categories because she'll

640
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 4>bring them in and there'll be thousands of famous people

641
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 4>who've transitioned who want to come and talk, and so

642
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<v Speaker 4>we have categories male or female. So we say, okay,

643
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<v Speaker 4>this one's male. All of the women are gone lived

644
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<v Speaker 4>in the nineteen hundred, so anyone before it's gone was

645
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<v Speaker 4>a philosopher right, and then was born in Europe. So

646
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 4>then we get this French philosopher that we never heard

647
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 4>of before, who's telling us all this amazing stuff from

648
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 4>their perspective about how we're living our lives now, what's

649
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 4>really happening at what was happening in history, and how

650
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.800
<v Speaker 4>your past lives work and all this stuff. So this

651
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:51.320
<v Speaker 4>idea of this unimaginable life, you can imagine a future,

652
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 4>an ideal that you want to live. And so that's

653
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 4>just a box that someone else has done before. If

654
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:01.039
<v Speaker 4>it's imaginable, someone else has done before, you some variation

655
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 4>of that, the mansion, the boat, the yacht, the whatever

656
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 4>it is. Right, What Joshua and Christy Chown's White Light

657
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 4>are telling us is what you want is unimaginable and

658
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 4>you can't imagine it, right. The only way you get

659
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 4>there is by shifting your perspective higher and higher and higher,

660
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:28.760
<v Speaker 4>and then experiences happen. Just like you said that. Now

661
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 4>you see that and you go, oh, that happened because

662
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:35.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm having an unimaginable experience because I've gone on this

663
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.599
<v Speaker 4>ascension journey seeing myself from harperspect The first indication of

664
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<v Speaker 4>that is seeing the numbers line up. The second indication

665
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 4>of that is being aware, Oh, COVID on this trip,

666
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 4>broken inkle on this trip. Third one is oh, limiting beliefs.

667
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<v Speaker 4>That belief is not true. I didn't even realize I

668
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.119
<v Speaker 4>had that, but now that I think of it, I

669
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Speaker 4>can prove that that's not true, just like the airplane.

670
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 4>And then you see yourself now as the creator. So

671
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 4>now any judgment you're thinking, Okay, well, I'm choosing a side.

672
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:11.159
<v Speaker 4>Why because I have some fear and I think that

673
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 4>by choosing to say Republican or Democrat, right, I think

674
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:19.920
<v Speaker 4>that somehow I'm going to protect myself if this party wins.

675
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 4>And it's thought, oh, there's a fear there that if

676
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm the creator, then it's a reflection of my vibration.

677
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.400
<v Speaker 4>So my vibration is the only thing I care about,

678
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 4>and that vibration is all perspective in every area of

679
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 4>your life.

680
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Good God, I could listen to you forever. We can talk.

681
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 3>We can talk forever, Like the conversation we were having

682
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 3>about that person that's always late, and then it's like,

683
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 3>why do we keep getting upset?

684
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 1>We know this is going to happen, and we just

685
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<v Speaker 1>say Okay, we just expected to be late, and we

686
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>won't get upset about it, you know, just like, yeah, yeah,

687
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>how does that feel though?

688
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<v Speaker 4>Being annoyed with some being late and then just say,

689
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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, this is just a funny aspect of

690
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<v Speaker 4>their personality. We know they're going to be late, and

691
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<v Speaker 4>you just sit back and go, don't worry about it.

692
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<v Speaker 4>We know you're gonna be late. That's so much more fun. Yeah,

693
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<v Speaker 4>But being annoyed, because annoying is trying to control this

694
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 4>is never going to happen, right.

695
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<v Speaker 1>And then to nail that point even further, I believe

696
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<v Speaker 1>that the reason why I have a hard time doing

697
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<v Speaker 1>that on those times that I have a hard time

698
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<v Speaker 1>doing that is because I'm not thrilled with me inside, right,

699
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<v Speaker 1>and so then that angst that inger is taking out

700
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<v Speaker 1>on how dare he be late? You know, because I'm

701
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<v Speaker 1>not feeling good, And so the times that I am

702
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>feeling good, I can't just go, oh, it's just how funny, Well,

703
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 1>oh we got way to get to better. Two'clock in

704
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the morning today, it's.

705
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Time for more drinks.

706
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<v Speaker 1>No, right, So it's a positive. So really, the yes,

707
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it's making the choice, it's identifying limiting beliefs, but it's

708
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<v Speaker 1>also allowing yourself the grace to find that piece within yourself,

709
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>because if you can be at peace within yourself, then

710
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<v Speaker 1>you can also offer that piece others. Right, the empty

711
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:12.559
<v Speaker 1>you have to empty out your glass before you can

712
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>fill it. That the whole, That whole thing makes great sense.

713
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the reminder, because I am so lost

714
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.159
<v Speaker 1>right now that I need these daily reminders because it's

715
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<v Speaker 1>it's a challenging time.

716
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<v Speaker 4>Right.

717
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yesterday I went to the grocery store with our

718
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<v Speaker 3>daughter and it wasn't too busy, but there was this

719
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<v Speaker 3>one cashier guy and I'm like, and what, it's got

720
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<v Speaker 3>a lot to go to that line because he talks

721
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<v Speaker 3>a lot. Last time he put like the potatoes on

722
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<v Speaker 3>top of the eggs, and you're talking about its healthish,

723
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<v Speaker 3>You're not paying attention. So I go then to the

724
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<v Speaker 3>next one, and then of course he gets them and

725
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:41.519
<v Speaker 3>he's like, oh, I come over here.

726
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:45.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, hey, we go me there. You know.

727
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:48.400
<v Speaker 3>He's just like yeah, boy, I'm just you know, I'm like, oh,

728
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 3>how you doing today? He's like, well, struggling, And I'm like,

729
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 3>that was your first mistake. But then I thought this

730
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 3>guy needs to be hurt. And I'm like, go, so,

731
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:57.159
<v Speaker 3>how was that new doctor you were going to? And

732
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.320
<v Speaker 3>just something like kind of triggered it and he's like,

733
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.519
<v Speaker 3>there's someone that cares about me. So it ended up

734
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.199
<v Speaker 3>after this whole conversation we did took a long time,

735
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 3>and you know whatever. So we got out and I

736
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:07.599
<v Speaker 3>was talking to her daughter about it, and I'm like,

737
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, I had to refrain how I thought about

738
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<v Speaker 3>him because instead of like avoiding the situation, this poortner

739
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 3>has no one to talk to, and it probably helped

740
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<v Speaker 3>him out. Maybe it didn't, but what did what harm

741
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 3>did it do?

742
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:20.239
<v Speaker 4>And then for her, her.

743
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Responses like, Mammy were really kind? And I'm like, well,

744
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.360
<v Speaker 3>how is it about that? But if by doing that,

745
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 3>I can give that example to her that she'll take

746
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<v Speaker 3>with her life because of just shift in perspective, go

747
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 3>into that guy's aisle and not be like, let's just

748
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:38.000
<v Speaker 3>get through. You know why, it's a good thing.

749
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:40.920
<v Speaker 4>How did you feel when your daughter said, Mommy, you're

750
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:41.400
<v Speaker 4>really kind?

751
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh it made my heart.

752
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:51.480
<v Speaker 4>So without that guy, that cashier, you wouldn't have that experience, right,

753
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 4>So that's why he was there. Yeah, And so now

754
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 4>imagine that you have two. Do you realize that we

755
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:01.239
<v Speaker 4>don't manufacturer thoughts in our brain.

756
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>We attract thoughts. Okay, we've heard that. I've heard that.

757
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.440
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So a law of attraction, you attract everything thoughts.

758
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:13.719
<v Speaker 4>There's two realms of thought, the math consciousness of humanity,

759
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 4>which is generally in fear. The same thoughts keep being

760
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.000
<v Speaker 4>thought over and over again. They never die, they're always there.

761
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 4>And then thoughts from the non physical, your guide, your supporters,

762
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:26.559
<v Speaker 4>you're inner self sending your thoughts. So you're so when

763
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.079
<v Speaker 4>you go in front of a cashier with the attitude

764
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.079
<v Speaker 4>that I'm going to listen to him, you know, and

765
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to there's something for me in this moment,

766
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:40.000
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know what it is, you can't imagine

767
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 4>what it is, but I'm going to be present for

768
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.800
<v Speaker 4>this cashier in the moment. And then you get these

769
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 4>thoughts to ask him about doctor right, And how are

770
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 4>you to remember that? That's amazing? Where did that memory

771
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:53.719
<v Speaker 4>come with that?

772
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

773
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.679
<v Speaker 4>It was given to you right, the right words, the

774
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:00.079
<v Speaker 4>right time, speaking of the same right thing, not to

775
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.599
<v Speaker 4>necessarily make him any better or worse. But then the

776
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 4>unimaginable thing happened you never imagined that your daughter would

777
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.840
<v Speaker 4>pick up on this and then come later and say, Mommy,

778
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:11.599
<v Speaker 4>you're really kind.

779
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that thing you were given allowed you to

780
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 1>put yourself in a place where our daughter said that

781
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 1>to you. But also you gave him what he needed

782
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to help him to that conversation at that particular point

783
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>in time, and then maybe.

784
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 3>She saw that something so small, that can feel like

785
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:28.400
<v Speaker 3>so insignificant.

786
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:31.639
<v Speaker 4>Can have a big impact, and her whole perception of you,

787
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, enhanced by that. So everyone got everything in

788
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:40.360
<v Speaker 4>that moment. Therefore everything worked out perfectly. But you couldn't have,

789
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, set goals for that or vision board. She

790
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:45.079
<v Speaker 4>was not imaginable.

791
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.519
<v Speaker 3>She's trying to happen because yeah, because I went to

792
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<v Speaker 3>the other and he's like.

793
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you are incredibly full of wisdom. I can just

794
00:42:54.880 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 1>hear our audience yelling at us that you hear I'm hearing. Okay,

795
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 1>what is the first cous would that is? Josh Okay,

796
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 1>We're going to answer that on part two of this conversation.

797
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Next week. We're going to talk about who Joshua is

798
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.559
<v Speaker 1>and maybe even have a chance to talk to them

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