Speaker 1: Yes, do you feel Yes, yes, you feel it. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: that's good to know. Otherwise, the alternative is not something
Speaker 1: that we want to talk about. This is not that
Speaker 1: type of show. You are, but this is not that
Speaker 1: type of show. So the question is, do you feel
Speaker 1: that your life is aligned with the forces of the universe?
Speaker 2: I mean all of my life.
Speaker 3: There's like some little bits that I sometimes think that
Speaker 3: might be aligned.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well, what if I told you that you
Speaker 1: could actually find a way to align yourself to these
Speaker 1: forces so that you could be living in more love.
Speaker 3: I would love that all the bits would be aligned.
Speaker 1: All the bits, but not just more love, but also
Speaker 1: more abundance, greater levels of health and well being. Your
Speaker 1: soul's purpose would be completely revealed to you. Your talents
Speaker 1: and special attributes would emerge. Mm hm, You'd be living
Speaker 1: a limitless experience of life and become highly effective at
Speaker 1: everything that you do.
Speaker 2: I mean, he had me at love.
Speaker 1: That's it. Yes, But for everyone else who wasn't there yet,
Speaker 1: maybe we're distilled a little bit more convincedly to listen
Speaker 1: to the episode. Apparently this is what we're all intended
Speaker 1: to experience in this lifetime. But so few of us
Speaker 1: are able to achieve. Now, what if I could bring
Speaker 1: a group of non physical teachers to the show that
Speaker 1: could help us find our way there. I would love that,
Speaker 1: I thought you would. So would you say that that
Speaker 1: would be worth staying tuned in during the breakfour?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, then don't go anywhere, because by the end
Speaker 1: of this episode we're gonna know just how to get there.
Speaker 1: This is an episode of the Skeptic Musicians. You don't
Speaker 1: want to miss it. And it starts now. My name
Speaker 1: is Will and I and unlike Moulder and Scully.
Speaker 3: Both want to believe.
Speaker 1: So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.
Speaker 3: We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
Speaker 3: metaphysical world.
Speaker 1: We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
Speaker 1: joined a coven.
Speaker 3: Of witches and wait, you joined a coven?
Speaker 1: Yep, all in the interest of finding something, anything, that
Speaker 1: will prove that there's something beyond this physical.
Speaker 3: Three dimensional world we all live in.
Speaker 5: This is the Skeptic metaphysics. Hey, welcome to the Skeptic
Speaker 5: of Evisians.
Speaker 1: I'm Will, and today we're honored to have Gary Temple
Speaker 1: Bodily a renowned chandler who has spent over a decade
Speaker 1: bringing forth the spiritual wisdom of Joshua a group of
Speaker 1: non physical teachers. Now, through thousands of channeling sessions and
Speaker 1: his popular podcast Joshua Live and the Law of Attraction,
Speaker 1: Gary has provided profound insights on topics like free will, manifesting,
Speaker 1: shifting perspective, physical densities, and the Law of Attraction. Now
Speaker 1: He's helped people from around the world view their lives
Speaker 1: from a higher perspectives. He's also the author of for
Speaker 1: books on spiritual understanding, including A Perception of Reality and
Speaker 1: a Radical Change in Your Approach to Life. His work
Speaker 1: has even been featured in a document titled The Teachings
Speaker 1: of Joshua Today. Gary's here to share his incredible journey,
Speaker 1: the wisdom is gained through the ten years of channeling
Speaker 1: Joshua and how we can transform our life by realizing
Speaker 1: that we're truly the creators of our own reality. We're
Speaker 1: beyond excited to dive into the conversation. So welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. Gary, How are you doing today?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 4: Well, Thanks so much, Gary, Thank you so much for
Speaker 4: having me.
Speaker 3: We are thrilled to have you beyond thrill?
Speaker 1: Did? Gary? We've got so much to talk to you
Speaker 1: about and so little time, So I'm just going to
Speaker 1: dive right into it, because we all know that we
Speaker 1: are the creators of our own reality. At least we
Speaker 1: know it here right If you're in the space, if
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts, if you if you study this
Speaker 1: at all, you have heard that many many times. However,
Speaker 1: the reality is something different. The reality of putting into
Speaker 1: effect is something completely different. So my biggest question to
Speaker 1: you is how can we wake up and stop creating
Speaker 1: the world we're living in right now? Because it is
Speaker 1: a mess.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, your reality is awesome. Look at
Speaker 4: you two, look at the show. Look at how much
Speaker 4: fun you're having. Your world is amazing.
Speaker 1: You know what, You're right, But the world outside that
Speaker 1: window is not so much. It is a little scary
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 4: So only if you pay attention to it, only if
Speaker 4: you but if you do not have social media, TV, radio, whatever,
Speaker 4: you lived in your little town in Virginia with your
Speaker 4: friends and your family and your loved ones and didn't
Speaker 4: pay attention to that, you would not know because it
Speaker 4: does not.
Speaker 1: Affect you kind of, I mean it affects us in
Speaker 1: a certain way, because, for example, we have a daughter
Speaker 1: who's thirteen years old and her future is at stake
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, and if we act
Speaker 1: like ostriches to put our faces in the ground and
Speaker 1: just don't pay attention to what else is going on,
Speaker 1: I'm not listening it out. I'm not sure how oh
Speaker 1: that's going to help her? Or are you saying that
Speaker 1: perhaps there's a way around it.
Speaker 4: There is an illusion going on. Ah, this is an
Speaker 4: illusion of separation.
Speaker 1: Okay, now we're getting to do it.
Speaker 4: This is forgetting who you are. This is an adventure
Speaker 4: that you came into. You don't know anything. You don't
Speaker 4: know anything. You have a set of beliefs. You want
Speaker 4: certain things based in that set of beliefs, but if
Speaker 4: those beliefs were different, you'd want different things. So adjusting
Speaker 4: your beliefs from limiting to empowering will shift your perspective
Speaker 4: of yourself in your reality. If you are focused on
Speaker 4: what's going outside of you in an attempt to control
Speaker 4: that so that you feel better, it's never going to
Speaker 4: work because you can't control any of that. If you're
Speaker 4: projecting something into the future, you don't know what's going
Speaker 4: to happen. You couldn't have imagined what would happen in
Speaker 4: the last five years of all kinds of different things.
Speaker 4: You couldn't have imagined COVID happening. You couldn't have imagined
Speaker 4: a million different things happening. But do they really affect you?
Speaker 4: And what is your basis for wanting things to be
Speaker 4: a certain way? It's this not knowing. We all would
Speaker 4: feel better if we knew, but empirically there's no way
Speaker 4: to know anything. For instance, you think you know your
Speaker 4: birth date, that's just a belief. You have some evidence
Speaker 4: for it. You have a birth certificate, you've got your
Speaker 4: parents saying that was the date, and so you have
Speaker 4: some understanding that that was the date you were born.
Speaker 4: But you could have been switched out with another baby,
Speaker 4: they could have had some scandal going on. You never know, right,
Speaker 4: And people find us all the time, good God, Gary, Right, Well,
Speaker 4: this idea that we know something is just really, we
Speaker 4: have beliefs about things, and we have a certain amount
Speaker 4: of evidence for certain beliefs, and we have no evidence
Speaker 4: for other beliefs. But in general, our lives are the
Speaker 4: sum total of our beliefs. That's our mental construct. That
Speaker 4: mental construct then begets a perspective, a general perspective in
Speaker 4: every area of your life, and that perspective is translated
Speaker 4: into a vibration. That vibration then creates the reality. So
Speaker 4: if you can shift that perspective higher by definition, you
Speaker 4: raise your vibration and you attract a different reality. Essentially,
Speaker 4: there's two default perceptions of reality. The one we're all
Speaker 4: born with, which is the victim meaning we believe that
Speaker 4: outside conditions and people can make us feel something. That's
Speaker 4: the fear based mentality that we all grew up with.
Speaker 4: We feel something and it seems like that event caused
Speaker 4: to feel something, but what really caused us to feel
Speaker 4: something was a belief, and without that belief, we could
Speaker 4: not feel anything. And so this process then of ascension
Speaker 4: is adjusting those beliefs from limiting to empowering. The other
Speaker 4: possible belief system is that you're the creator of your
Speaker 4: reality and that how you interpret the outside reality is
Speaker 4: indicative of how you feel. So the reality is what
Speaker 4: it is, It's created by your unique perception of it
Speaker 4: yournique belief system. Everyone's different and you can choose to
Speaker 4: see that reality from a limited perspective perceiving yourself as
Speaker 4: a victim in that circumstance, or from a higher perspective,
Speaker 4: perceiving yourself as a creator in that circumstance. If you
Speaker 4: perceive that you're a victim, you're going to feel negative emotion.
Speaker 4: That's the simple, basic form of guidance. You've heard that
Speaker 4: many times before. Your emotions are simply guidance. The negative
Speaker 4: emotion indicates that you're perceiving reality inaccurately.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm a questioned about that.
Speaker 1: Excellent, about just one, but it's about the experience.
Speaker 3: So about I don't know, like maybe twenty years ago,
Speaker 3: I woke up one night and there's a man in
Speaker 3: my bedroom with an ice and I got away, but
Speaker 3: there was stuff to tie me up and all of this.
Speaker 3: So I had never feared that. I never really even
Speaker 3: thought about that, but it scared that hell out of me.
Speaker 3: So are you saying that that emotion that I have
Speaker 3: was already explained that to me?
Speaker 1: Okay, in that circumstance.
Speaker 4: So you're going very extreme, which is fine. Look at
Speaker 4: that event from a limited perspective. You could have been killed,
Speaker 4: you could have been something terrible happened. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: that person should not have been there and not existed.
Speaker 4: What a horrible thing that happened to you? Right, the
Speaker 4: victim and telling from twenty years later, you look at it, go,
Speaker 4: you know what? That incident shaped my life from then on,
Speaker 4: everything that I've come to appreciate and learn and grow
Speaker 4: that influenced all this growth. I wouldn't be where I
Speaker 4: am now had that event not occurred. I understood that
Speaker 4: I was able to survive it, that I moved on
Speaker 4: from it, that I got to reconcile it, and that
Speaker 4: I'm at a so much more evolved place now because
Speaker 4: of it. Nothing actually bad happened. It was traumatic at
Speaker 4: the time, but I'm fine now. So two different ways
Speaker 4: to look at the same event, one as the creator
Speaker 4: looking at it from this higher perspective, and one as
Speaker 4: the victim. Oh, I got lucky, right, and that should
Speaker 4: never have happened. Now, what does that mean in your life? Well,
Speaker 4: from this higher perspective, which let's see, may not be true.
Speaker 4: We don't have any evidence that is true. You are
Speaker 4: empowered by that. You're not feeling negative emotion about that.
Speaker 4: This you guys dived into like a really traumatic subject.
Speaker 4: You know, So everyone wants to go to the most,
Speaker 4: you know, the worst thing that could possibly happen at
Speaker 4: the beginning, but if you did it in small little
Speaker 4: things every time in life. So I have something that
Speaker 4: came to me today that I think that will help
Speaker 4: anyone who's got any you know, issues with family or friends.
Speaker 4: So imagine that you have a son and you are
Speaker 4: trying to get him ready to for school because you
Speaker 4: have an appointment with a realtor at nine point thirty
Speaker 4: and he's just not cooperating. And it's the same thing
Speaker 4: all the time. He never get us up in time.
Speaker 4: He never does the same time. So you have this
Speaker 4: disagreement and you maybe yell at him and push him
Speaker 4: along and get him going. Why because you want to
Speaker 4: make this appointment with the realtor. Joshua talks about there's
Speaker 4: things you think you want and things.
Speaker 1: You truly want.
Speaker 4: So in this instance, you truly want a wonderful relationship
Speaker 4: with your son. You truly want to spend time with
Speaker 4: them and appreciate him at this age because he's never
Speaker 4: gonna be this age again. This is the thing that
Speaker 4: you truly want. What you think you want is the realtor.
Speaker 4: You know me, the real turn time, have her have
Speaker 4: a good opinion of you, that sort of thing, And
Speaker 4: so you're sort of sabotaging your relationship with your son
Speaker 4: just to get this thing you think you want. But
Speaker 4: if you thought about it, it wouldn't matter if you
Speaker 4: missed the appointment, as long as you had a great
Speaker 4: time with your son and had you know, it didn't
Speaker 4: stress him out and all that stuff. That's what you
Speaker 4: truly want. So when we're focusing on these conflicts that
Speaker 4: we might have with the people in our lives, it's
Speaker 4: good to have a context there. What I really really
Speaker 4: want is a great relationship with my husband and my
Speaker 4: children and my parents and my friends, and this other
Speaker 4: stuff about what people think of me and being on
Speaker 4: time to avoid the negative emotion of some consequence that
Speaker 4: may or may not happen down the road. It's adjusting
Speaker 4: your framework so that you realize you create this reality.
Speaker 4: So what is most valuable to you in your reality,
Speaker 4: it's the things that you love and give you joy.
Speaker 4: What do you think you want is the security and
Speaker 4: like love and respect from other people and these things
Speaker 4: that really have nothing to do with you, because they're
Speaker 4: looking at you from their perspective. Anyway, when you think
Speaker 4: about any negative emotion. We're usually talking about the day
Speaker 4: to day stuff, the day to day annoyances and little things.
Speaker 4: That's where you start, and you look at those little
Speaker 4: things from the higher perspective, going, you know what, it's
Speaker 4: all going to work out perfectly. This person in line
Speaker 4: in front of me confused right now, I don't have
Speaker 4: anywhere to go. I much rather help them rather than
Speaker 4: be annoyed with them. That's what I truly want when
Speaker 4: you look at the traumatic things in your life. You
Speaker 4: want me to tell you a story about my partner, Christy?
Speaker 1: Would Christy want you to tell us a story?
Speaker 4: We don't know, So we're just gonna go with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Sorry, Christy, I tried.
Speaker 4: Christy gets divorced from her husband and she's dating her
Speaker 4: new boyfriend. Her ex husband is sort of a stockery guy,
Speaker 4: and she's not really thinking too much of it. She
Speaker 4: gets the inspiration one day to actually her friend calls
Speaker 4: her that she hasn't seen him twenty years and says,
Speaker 4: come and visit me in North Carolina, and she goes,
Speaker 4: all right, you know, I haven't seen a long time,
Speaker 4: and so, just out of the blow, she goes and
Speaker 4: spends the weekend while she's gone, her ex husband murders
Speaker 4: her boyfriend and then they all thought it was her,
Speaker 4: and so there's a big trial and they can't find
Speaker 4: him for a long time, and she's she's got Christie's
Speaker 4: got a hide, a different move around and you know,
Speaker 4: stay low and finally catch them and they go through
Speaker 4: trial and she's written up in the paper.
Speaker 1: It's a big deal.
Speaker 4: She realizes that that started her spiritual journey. And while
Speaker 4: it was tragic, everyone was playing their part in it.
Speaker 4: Her boyfriend who died, the ex husband who's now in prison,
Speaker 4: and Christy. It was all set up to launch Christy
Speaker 4: on this spiritual journey. It's an amazing journey that she's
Speaker 4: been on. But the fact is you can look at
Speaker 4: that event and be traumatized from it and victimized from it,
Speaker 4: or you can look at it from the higher perspective. Now,
Speaker 4: we could be wrong. Maybe this was just a terrible
Speaker 4: thing that should never have happened and someone died needlessly.
Speaker 4: We don't know, but from all the work that we've done,
Speaker 4: we know there's a non physical that in the non physical,
Speaker 4: there is no fear, there is no separation, there is
Speaker 4: pre birth agreements, all these things. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 4: it's true or not. How Christy feels now about that
Speaker 4: whole thing is empowered. How someone might feel about something
Speaker 4: similar would be victimized.
Speaker 1: So it's really a choice.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: She made a choice to make it mean something to
Speaker 1: her versus victimize her. Right.
Speaker 4: What we get told over and over and over again
Speaker 4: by Joshua Abraham, everything is working out for you. Nothing
Speaker 4: is ever happening to you. It's all working out for you.
Speaker 4: It's all happening for your benefit. Everyone goes to the
Speaker 4: most extreme things, and that is this. We are living
Speaker 4: in polarity, right, We are experiencing polarity white, black light, dark, good, bad. Well,
Speaker 4: we can't think about. What I'm trying to say is
Speaker 4: there's a range and everything exists within it.
Speaker 1: Ice cream no ice cream.
Speaker 4: But we're existing in duality that this part of that
Speaker 4: range is good, but that part is bad. And if
Speaker 4: we can realize, we need, like Abraham says, the entire
Speaker 4: buffet so that everyone could have the experiences that they
Speaker 4: came for.
Speaker 1: So everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 4: Everything happens for you, for literally for you. Everything happens
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 1: And we've heard that before and again It's one of
Speaker 1: those things where up here I got it. I got it, Gary,
Speaker 1: I totally get it. However, here is holy different. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get it.
Speaker 4: Karen. Do you get it? Does it resonate with you more?
Speaker 3: I mostly get it, But every once in a while
Speaker 3: I kind of fall back into really you know, like
Speaker 3: I couldn't help thinking, you know, you're telling us Christy's story,
Speaker 3: and I can't help thinking about the boys friend. How
Speaker 3: was that beneficial for him? You know? But then I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: maybe it was his time to just get out of
Speaker 3: here and you know, be one with the collective consciousness.
Speaker 3: I have to sometimes I have to like talk myself
Speaker 3: back into to getting it.
Speaker 4: That is vulnerability, because to have a belief like that,
Speaker 4: where it's okay that someone transitioned to the non physical,
Speaker 4: the non physical is not a bad place. It's a
Speaker 4: wonderful place. You know, he's ready. It's the timing that
Speaker 4: opens you up to no control over your death, for instance,
Speaker 4: And so you ever notice that when anyone dies, everyone
Speaker 4: asks how do you die? So that you can control?
Speaker 4: You don't want to die that way, right, That's the reason.
Speaker 1: You know, I hadn't done it that way? But you're
Speaker 1: right actually, but he's not. Oh no, I'm never short
Speaker 1: diving again.
Speaker 4: We have a joke that says, when we die, we
Speaker 4: want it to be like, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: No, people know me too much. I want to die
Speaker 1: screeching into like home plate or something something completely differweeded
Speaker 1: what awo? So then the question, though, is because I
Speaker 1: do get it in my heart and I want to
Speaker 1: get it in my head. So how does someone like
Speaker 1: me who is very firmly entrenched in the three D
Speaker 1: world and gets up every day, goes to work and
Speaker 1: bides into the hole. I gotta do this for my
Speaker 1: family or do this for me, all the all the
Speaker 1: responsibilities and all that kind of stuff. How do I
Speaker 1: say it's all good when I break my ankle in Europe,
Speaker 1: for example.
Speaker 4: First of all, you're not really fully in three D.
Speaker 4: You're probably you know, in the top two percent, right,
Speaker 4: So you're up there, your your perspective is very high. Ready, Okay,
Speaker 4: when some event happens, Joshua calls it a manifestation event.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: The manifestation event comes because you're not aware of a
Speaker 4: limiting belief. There's a limiting belief in place that is
Speaker 4: preventing you from acting on inspiration. Your inner self is
Speaker 4: sending you inspiration all the time, but this belief causes
Speaker 4: you to either knock away that belief before it even
Speaker 4: consciency gets to you, or as soon as you think
Speaker 4: you hear the inspiration, you're like, I can't do that
Speaker 4: or that's impossible. Right, it's that belief belief That belief
Speaker 4: is ignites in fear whenever you have this inspiration. So
Speaker 4: in order for your inner self to get you to
Speaker 4: take some action on this inspiration, first it has to
Speaker 4: put you in a situation where you can discover this
Speaker 4: limiting belief. Once you discover an aware of this limiting belief,
Speaker 4: you can prove it's not true. For instance, I have
Speaker 4: a friend who will not fly. He will not go
Speaker 4: on an airplane. He believes that this dangerous, but we
Speaker 4: know it's not. We have evidence to show us how
Speaker 4: self is it. So we use this evidence for ourselves to
Speaker 4: go on that crazy tin can in the sky and
Speaker 4: land somewhere.
Speaker 1: Else called the laws of physics.
Speaker 4: Right, so we're able to push past the fear to
Speaker 4: act on our inspiration to fly to Paris. He will
Speaker 4: never fly to Paris because he can't push past the fear.
Speaker 4: His belief that plane travel is dangerous prevents him from
Speaker 4: ever buying a ticket. Now, if he just sat down
Speaker 4: with the evidence and poured over it and prove to
Speaker 4: himself that that belief is not true, the next time
Speaker 4: he's inspired to go on a plane, he might be
Speaker 4: able to push past that fear. Sure, it's going to
Speaker 4: be a lot of fear. But now he's worked on
Speaker 4: that limiting belief, he's got all this evidence. Well, you
Speaker 4: can do that with any limiting belief, because all limiting
Speaker 4: beliefs are false.
Speaker 3: And I think you didn't even realize is your limiting belief.
Speaker 3: I think that you feel deep done. It sound like
Speaker 3: you don't deserve a break a vacation. Went to Hawaii,
Speaker 3: first day in, got COVID, go to Europe first day
Speaker 3: in your breaking right.
Speaker 4: So anyway, Karen, you are I mean you hit the
Speaker 4: nail on the head of that one too, and that
Speaker 4: COVID and the broken ankle. Are these manifestation events showing
Speaker 4: you that you have this, you want. This is not
Speaker 4: responsible feeling, right, I shouldn't be taking this time off.
Speaker 4: I have to cover the bills and pay for these things.
Speaker 4: I don't. It's not that you don't deserve it, it's
Speaker 4: it's irresponsible. You're not doing the manly thing by taking
Speaker 4: care of the family. And that's your number one like identification.
Speaker 4: You believe that Karen loves you because you take care
Speaker 4: of everything. I mean, and if you do not, if
Speaker 4: you won't, if you if you fall asleep on the job,
Speaker 4: then she's.
Speaker 1: Not going to you anymore.
Speaker 4: That has nothing to do with it. It's your energy
Speaker 4: that she's attracted to and loves. Well, thank you in
Speaker 4: the fact you're doing the show.
Speaker 1: I mean thank you. Thank you first, yes, I thank
Speaker 1: you for calling me out the bus hurt. But however,
Speaker 1: let's say that I hear what she's saying in I'm
Speaker 1: on board, but I want to be worthy. So how
Speaker 1: do I prove that the limiting event is incorrect?
Speaker 4: Okay, so those two things are unusual. Get in COVID
Speaker 4: at firstday in Hawaii breaking your ankle and rome, right,
Speaker 4: you have to look at that. Go that's pretty weird.
Speaker 4: I mean, how often does those two things.
Speaker 1: Happen on vacation in years?
Speaker 4: Both times perfect? Right, So they're just showing you that
Speaker 4: you have an identity that you believe is the reason
Speaker 4: that your family loves you. That's just limiting obviously, right,
Speaker 4: It's not true. Where in your life can you see
Speaker 4: that you don't have to take care of everything for them.
Speaker 1: To love you?
Speaker 4: Like, was there a point where you couldn't do anything
Speaker 4: and they still loved you? Or you look at something
Speaker 4: in your life. Where has it been in my life
Speaker 4: where I wasn't able to take care of everything but
Speaker 4: they still love me anyway? Or I wasn't able to
Speaker 4: do this thing I want to do, but they still
Speaker 4: love you anyway.
Speaker 1: Actually, I would bring it back to getting coved in
Speaker 1: Hawaii and breaking my ankle in your foot, because even
Speaker 1: though I had a broken ankle in Europe the first
Speaker 1: day of a three week well second day off a
Speaker 1: three week European dication, she went out of her way
Speaker 1: to make sure I felt comfortable, helping me and knowing
Speaker 1: that it's all good. We're going to make this strip
Speaker 1: worthwhile regardless. So yes, I do I do see that,
Speaker 1: But I have the proof. Am I testing her?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, I am not testing not testing you.
Speaker 4: You are finding evidence in your own life how you
Speaker 4: couldn't be the one taking care of everything and you
Speaker 4: were still loved and taking.
Speaker 1: Care of and we were still fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you will always be fine. You lose everything,
Speaker 4: you will still be fine.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So it's back to what you said earlier, which is
Speaker 1: that change of perspective. That change of perspective is perspective,
Speaker 1: is what's going to what's going to move the needle
Speaker 1: for you? And that's what this is all about, right.
Speaker 1: It's it's about listening to Joshua. It's about listening to
Speaker 1: these types of shows. It's about doing your meditation. It's
Speaker 1: about reading the books and living the spiritual life, knowing
Speaker 1: that there's more to it than than this will Oh,
Speaker 1: there's so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's about making a choice.
Speaker 1: True. True.
Speaker 4: It's about opening up those belief systems. I was exactly
Speaker 4: like well, I was a total skeptic and the stuff
Speaker 4: that I've experienced in the last eleven years is just
Speaker 4: mind blowing. My belief system is completely chained, but it's
Speaker 4: through experience and every day I had to push past
Speaker 4: fear to do these woo woo things that I'm doing.
Speaker 1: It's so funny this show. I love this show so
Speaker 1: much because it goes in these ways. Right. Exactly what
Speaker 1: we are focused on is the guests that we attract
Speaker 1: to the show at the perfect time. We just talked
Speaker 1: about this, I get all kinds of signs from the universe.
Speaker 1: Karen Is the previous show talked about how I like
Speaker 1: to say that the universe starts with a whisper and
Speaker 1: ends with the two by four of the head.
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Speaker 4: Here's the thing. I'm intellectual, you're intellectual. Men tend to
Speaker 4: be an intellectual. It is an intellectual start. You're got
Speaker 4: an ego voice going on saying, oh yeah, don't be weird.
Speaker 4: What are you doing? You know, no one's going to
Speaker 4: read this book, no one's going to listen to your podcast.
Speaker 4: Why are you wasting this time? And you'll you know,
Speaker 4: and you have to That ego.
Speaker 1: Is there for a purpose.
Speaker 4: It keeps you alive, right, and it's going to try
Speaker 4: and keep you safe, and you're going to have fear
Speaker 4: with every inspired idea. That's just what happens. You have anice,
Speaker 4: it's going to trigger some living belief. You can't get
Speaker 4: rid of your limiting beliefs. You can only soften them
Speaker 4: so that they're not limiting. But to have the experience
Speaker 4: is where you get the information. Abraham's famous words words,
Speaker 4: don't teach experience teachers. We're having this conversation. People are
Speaker 4: listening passively, they're learning, they're getting some concepts, and then
Speaker 4: they're going to have an experience, and that experience is
Speaker 4: going to cement what they've heard here in other places, right,
Speaker 4: and then they're going to get be inspired to do
Speaker 4: something they would never do before, and they're going to
Speaker 4: have fear. And that's when they stop. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to go to this retreat. I'm going to take this course.
Speaker 4: I'm going to, you know, talk to this, talk to
Speaker 4: my friends about this. This is one of the scary
Speaker 4: things in this community spirituality is we're sort of all
Speaker 4: in this alone. The rarity of a couple that's on
Speaker 4: the same page is unbelievable, you know, But more often
Speaker 4: than not, you have friends out there who are secretly
Speaker 4: listening to this stuff but not wanting to talk it
Speaker 4: in case they sound weird to their friends. But everyone
Speaker 4: knows somebody. And when you start opening up to your
Speaker 4: friends about the little things even meditation, you know, or
Speaker 4: affirmations or little things like that, you can find this community.
Speaker 4: And that's what helps, is really to have that friendship community,
Speaker 4: and probably all your listeners join this community that sort
Speaker 4: of thing.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: And I think it's easy, you know you're talking about
Speaker 2: you have these conversations, that you have an experience, and
Speaker 2: then from the experience you go on. I think, unfortunately
Speaker 2: it's so easy and so much more I guess common
Speaker 2: for people to try to explain that experience away as
Speaker 2: a coincidence, Oh that was just because of this or
Speaker 2: that was, and not to really just accept that maybe
Speaker 2: it was a miracle.
Speaker 3: Maybe. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is such a good point, because this is
Speaker 4: what we all do. Something which we call unimaginable happens,
Speaker 4: and the instinct is to explain away because that keeps
Speaker 4: you safe. Yes, it can't be woo woo, wo can't
Speaker 4: really be true.
Speaker 1: Yes we have.
Speaker 4: Christy and I started a new podcast called an Unimaginable Life,
Speaker 4: and this is just amazing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: We started this like in December and we're doing one
Speaker 4: or two a month, and then we started. She was
Speaker 4: doing these medium readings. She's unbelievable. And there are spiritual
Speaker 4: medium readings where the person's relatives, dead relatives will come
Speaker 4: in only to introduce them to their spirit guides. So
Speaker 4: generally someone will have three spirit guides, and the spirit
Speaker 4: guides will give this amazing information about how to move
Speaker 4: forward in their lives. There's really two types. There's the
Speaker 4: ethereal spirit guide that's a god or an angel or
Speaker 4: something that's familiar. You know, they have names and you
Speaker 4: can look them up and google them. And then there'll
Speaker 4: be a person, a human, someone who was a human
Speaker 4: before as a spirit guide. And I found these fascinating
Speaker 4: because they would really relate and there'd be these interesting
Speaker 4: people you never heard of before. So we started in
Speaker 4: our podcast doing dead talk, and dead Talk is we
Speaker 4: have Q cards and we have four categories because she'll
Speaker 4: bring them in and there'll be thousands of famous people
Speaker 4: who've transitioned who want to come and talk, and so
Speaker 4: we have categories male or female. So we say, okay,
Speaker 4: this one's male. All of the women are gone lived
Speaker 4: in the nineteen hundred, so anyone before it's gone was
Speaker 4: a philosopher right, and then was born in Europe. So
Speaker 4: then we get this French philosopher that we never heard
Speaker 4: of before, who's telling us all this amazing stuff from
Speaker 4: their perspective about how we're living our lives now, what's
Speaker 4: really happening at what was happening in history, and how
Speaker 4: your past lives work and all this stuff. So this
Speaker 4: idea of this unimaginable life, you can imagine a future,
Speaker 4: an ideal that you want to live. And so that's
Speaker 4: just a box that someone else has done before. If
Speaker 4: it's imaginable, someone else has done before, you some variation
Speaker 4: of that, the mansion, the boat, the yacht, the whatever
Speaker 4: it is. Right, What Joshua and Christy Chown's White Light
Speaker 4: are telling us is what you want is unimaginable and
Speaker 4: you can't imagine it, right. The only way you get
Speaker 4: there is by shifting your perspective higher and higher and higher,
Speaker 4: and then experiences happen. Just like you said that. Now
Speaker 4: you see that and you go, oh, that happened because
Speaker 4: I'm having an unimaginable experience because I've gone on this
Speaker 4: ascension journey seeing myself from harperspect The first indication of
Speaker 4: that is seeing the numbers line up. The second indication
Speaker 4: of that is being aware, Oh, COVID on this trip,
Speaker 4: broken inkle on this trip. Third one is oh, limiting beliefs.
Speaker 4: That belief is not true. I didn't even realize I
Speaker 4: had that, but now that I think of it, I
Speaker 4: can prove that that's not true, just like the airplane.
Speaker 4: And then you see yourself now as the creator. So
Speaker 4: now any judgment you're thinking, Okay, well, I'm choosing a side.
Speaker 4: Why because I have some fear and I think that
Speaker 4: by choosing to say Republican or Democrat, right, I think
Speaker 4: that somehow I'm going to protect myself if this party wins.
Speaker 4: And it's thought, oh, there's a fear there that if
Speaker 4: I'm the creator, then it's a reflection of my vibration.
Speaker 4: So my vibration is the only thing I care about,
Speaker 4: and that vibration is all perspective in every area of
Speaker 4: your life.
Speaker 1: Good God, I could listen to you forever. We can talk.
Speaker 3: We can talk forever, Like the conversation we were having
Speaker 3: about that person that's always late, and then it's like,
Speaker 3: why do we keep getting upset?
Speaker 1: We know this is going to happen, and we just
Speaker 1: say Okay, we just expected to be late, and we
Speaker 1: won't get upset about it, you know, just like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how does that feel though?
Speaker 4: Being annoyed with some being late and then just say,
Speaker 4: oh my god, this is just a funny aspect of
Speaker 4: their personality. We know they're going to be late, and
Speaker 4: you just sit back and go, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: We know you're gonna be late. That's so much more fun. Yeah,
Speaker 4: But being annoyed, because annoying is trying to control this
Speaker 4: is never going to happen, right.
Speaker 1: And then to nail that point even further, I believe
Speaker 1: that the reason why I have a hard time doing
Speaker 1: that on those times that I have a hard time
Speaker 1: doing that is because I'm not thrilled with me inside, right,
Speaker 1: and so then that angst that inger is taking out
Speaker 1: on how dare he be late? You know, because I'm
Speaker 1: not feeling good, And so the times that I am
Speaker 1: feeling good, I can't just go, oh, it's just how funny, Well,
Speaker 1: oh we got way to get to better. Two'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning today, it's.
Speaker 3: Time for more drinks.
Speaker 1: No, right, So it's a positive. So really, the yes,
Speaker 1: it's making the choice, it's identifying limiting beliefs, but it's
Speaker 1: also allowing yourself the grace to find that piece within yourself,
Speaker 1: because if you can be at peace within yourself, then
Speaker 1: you can also offer that piece others. Right, the empty
Speaker 1: you have to empty out your glass before you can
Speaker 1: fill it. That the whole, That whole thing makes great sense.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the reminder, because I am so lost
Speaker 1: right now that I need these daily reminders because it's
Speaker 1: it's a challenging time.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yesterday I went to the grocery store with our
Speaker 3: daughter and it wasn't too busy, but there was this
Speaker 3: one cashier guy and I'm like, and what, it's got
Speaker 3: a lot to go to that line because he talks
Speaker 3: a lot. Last time he put like the potatoes on
Speaker 3: top of the eggs, and you're talking about its healthish,
Speaker 3: You're not paying attention. So I go then to the
Speaker 3: next one, and then of course he gets them and
Speaker 3: he's like, oh, I come over here.
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, we go me there. You know.
Speaker 3: He's just like yeah, boy, I'm just you know, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: how you doing today? He's like, well, struggling, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: that was your first mistake. But then I thought this
Speaker 3: guy needs to be hurt. And I'm like, go, so,
Speaker 3: how was that new doctor you were going to? And
Speaker 3: just something like kind of triggered it and he's like,
Speaker 3: there's someone that cares about me. So it ended up
Speaker 3: after this whole conversation we did took a long time,
Speaker 3: and you know whatever. So we got out and I
Speaker 3: was talking to her daughter about it, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, I had to refrain how I thought about
Speaker 3: him because instead of like avoiding the situation, this poortner
Speaker 3: has no one to talk to, and it probably helped
Speaker 3: him out. Maybe it didn't, but what did what harm
Speaker 3: did it do?
Speaker 4: And then for her, her.
Speaker 3: Responses like, Mammy were really kind? And I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: how is it about that? But if by doing that,
Speaker 3: I can give that example to her that she'll take
Speaker 3: with her life because of just shift in perspective, go
Speaker 3: into that guy's aisle and not be like, let's just
Speaker 3: get through. You know why, it's a good thing.
Speaker 4: How did you feel when your daughter said, Mommy, you're
Speaker 4: really kind?
Speaker 3: Oh it made my heart.
Speaker 4: So without that guy, that cashier, you wouldn't have that experience, right,
Speaker 4: So that's why he was there. Yeah, And so now
Speaker 4: imagine that you have two. Do you realize that we
Speaker 4: don't manufacturer thoughts in our brain.
Speaker 1: We attract thoughts. Okay, we've heard that. I've heard that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So a law of attraction, you attract everything thoughts.
Speaker 4: There's two realms of thought, the math consciousness of humanity,
Speaker 4: which is generally in fear. The same thoughts keep being
Speaker 4: thought over and over again. They never die, they're always there.
Speaker 4: And then thoughts from the non physical, your guide, your supporters,
Speaker 4: you're inner self sending your thoughts. So you're so when
Speaker 4: you go in front of a cashier with the attitude
Speaker 4: that I'm going to listen to him, you know, and
Speaker 4: I'm going to there's something for me in this moment,
Speaker 4: and I don't know what it is, you can't imagine
Speaker 4: what it is, but I'm going to be present for
Speaker 4: this cashier in the moment. And then you get these
Speaker 4: thoughts to ask him about doctor right, And how are
Speaker 4: you to remember that? That's amazing? Where did that memory
Speaker 4: come with that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: It was given to you right, the right words, the
Speaker 4: right time, speaking of the same right thing, not to
Speaker 4: necessarily make him any better or worse. But then the
Speaker 4: unimaginable thing happened you never imagined that your daughter would
Speaker 4: pick up on this and then come later and say, Mommy,
Speaker 4: you're really kind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that thing you were given allowed you to
Speaker 1: put yourself in a place where our daughter said that
Speaker 1: to you. But also you gave him what he needed
Speaker 1: to help him to that conversation at that particular point
Speaker 1: in time, and then maybe.
Speaker 3: She saw that something so small, that can feel like
Speaker 3: so insignificant.
Speaker 4: Can have a big impact, and her whole perception of you,
Speaker 4: you know, enhanced by that. So everyone got everything in
Speaker 4: that moment. Therefore everything worked out perfectly. But you couldn't have,
Speaker 4: you know, set goals for that or vision board. She
Speaker 4: was not imaginable.
Speaker 3: She's trying to happen because yeah, because I went to
Speaker 3: the other and he's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are incredibly full of wisdom. I can just
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