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<v Speaker 1>Well whiskey, come and take my pain the money all ry.

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<v Speaker 2>Why think alone when you can drink it all in

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<v Speaker 2>with Ricochet's three whiskey Happy Hour, join your bartenders Steve Hayward,

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<v Speaker 2>John Yu and the International Woman of Mystery Lucretia.

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<v Speaker 3>Where they slapped it up and it ain't easy on

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<v Speaker 3>the should stop got it giving.

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<v Speaker 2>W All right, you guys, aren't we glad that Drive

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<v Speaker 2>January is over? Did you guys both survive January well enough?

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<v Speaker 4>Or did you try January?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 5>What did Joe? What do you mean January mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Drive January is? Was we were supposed to give up

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol for a month? Why? I don't know? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I I borrow, I dredged up and re stated.

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<v Speaker 2>Will Rogers famous line about prohibition, which in my case

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<v Speaker 2>was at least drive January doesn't mean no liquor at all?

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<v Speaker 4>I know you know what it is?

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<v Speaker 5>Where does this idea come from the latest.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing from the CDC who wants us all to believe

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<v Speaker 4>that alcohol is the greatest cause of every disease ever

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<v Speaker 4>known to man? That it's a that you know that

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<v Speaker 4>it's almost a quarter of a millionth of a jump

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<v Speaker 4>in your chances of getting cancer if you drink, and

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's it's just the latest thing, like you

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be barbecuing your meat because of the carbon and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just stupid. So I'm drinking more because of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, if they make me give up alcohol, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to take up smoking because you know they okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they snap that out.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of it's getting a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>play that RFK had a nicotine gum or or shoe

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<v Speaker 4>or something like that in the middle of the pretty

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<v Speaker 4>rough hearings, So you can't blame that he was a heroin.

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<v Speaker 5>If he can't have alcohol, I'm going to take a funanol.

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<v Speaker 2>Well all right, So so by the way, how are you, Crazi?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? John? You're doing well this week? I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, after we recorded last weekend, the Eagles

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<v Speaker 5>won the NFC Championship. We're going to go to the

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<v Speaker 5>Super Bowl, and I wish I could beat in New

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<v Speaker 5>Orleans watching the Eagles and eating mcred simultaneously, but I

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<v Speaker 5>can't be and a soft pretzel. But this is like

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<v Speaker 5>the best thing, This is the most important thing I

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<v Speaker 5>should tell. It's a true story, but it's also a joke.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a true story. Is my mom was a psychiatrist

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<v Speaker 5>and she worked in a psychiatric hospital in Philadelphia for

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<v Speaker 5>forty years. And so the other day I said to her,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Philadelphia is a crazy city, said mom, was

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<v Speaker 5>there ever a day where there were no new patients?

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<v Speaker 5>And she said yes, the day after the Eagles won

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<v Speaker 5>the Super Bowl. Ah, true story.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know your fans have gotten even more of

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<v Speaker 4>a bad rap because of how you know, subhuman. They

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<v Speaker 4>tend to act on occasion like the guy who you

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<v Speaker 4>know made all those nasty comments to that woman. I

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<v Speaker 4>think she was a Chiefs fan. No, no, it was

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<v Speaker 4>before that. Whatever it was, she was anyway, and he

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<v Speaker 4>got kicked out forever he can never go to another

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<v Speaker 4>Eagles game. And then he got fired because he worked

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<v Speaker 4>for some DEI company that remember that that believes in

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<v Speaker 4>belonging and anyway, But I will tell you this. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a big story a couple of days ago about the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that the Eagles had extended a very generous invitation

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<v Speaker 4>package to the Super Bowl to one of the guys

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<v Speaker 4>in New Orleans who had been his buddy. Was they

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<v Speaker 4>both played for Princeton football. For Princeton, his buddy was

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<v Speaker 4>killed and he was seriously seriously injured, and so the

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<v Speaker 4>Eagles are are rolling out the red and he's still

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<v Speaker 4>in pretty bad shape, fractures everywhere and so on. He

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<v Speaker 4>was hit by the car, the truck, So the Eagles

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<v Speaker 4>are making a big deal out of him to the

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't see I don't think you see any Seagles

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<v Speaker 5>players taking a kneed during the national anthem. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 5>you that much. Philadelphia doesn't never don't stand for that

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<v Speaker 5>kind I don't think so we don't stand for that

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<v Speaker 5>kind of stuff. That's a forty That's a San Francisco thing, right,

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<v Speaker 5>that's Colin Kaepernick in the San Francisco forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 5>and all their PC football, right, But all.

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<v Speaker 4>The others did it too, and the NFL was pretty

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<v Speaker 4>despicable in that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I agree, Yeah, I think that's now.

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<v Speaker 2>But since you mentioned McRib john, that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>pieces of housekeeping to get to here in our opening today.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was gonna do it in different order, but

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<v Speaker 2>you brought it up, so let's do it now. It

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<v Speaker 2>is my sad duty to tell our listeners that it

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<v Speaker 2>has become necessary in the course of human events for

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<v Speaker 2>the three Whiskey Happy Hour to declare holy war on

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<v Speaker 2>the Commentary Magazine podcast because.

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<v Speaker 6>Earlier this week they went on the war path about

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<v Speaker 6>how disgusting the McRib is not once not just in

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<v Speaker 6>passing they did at the beginning of the show in

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<v Speaker 6>a prolonged fashion because actually John pot Hard it's not

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<v Speaker 6>like John, but he never does anything briefly.

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<v Speaker 4>And someone there Whiskey Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>The kettle black.

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<v Speaker 2>But then they came back to it to the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the episode too, so they doubled down on just

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<v Speaker 2>in the McRib And you know, look, I made my

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<v Speaker 2>view is clear. I don't like the McRib either, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't get to do that. And this is a

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<v Speaker 2>three Musketeers moments, all for one and one for all.

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<v Speaker 2>So listeners, we have declared war on the Commentary Magazine podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably thinks that it's better if they do because they'll

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<v Speaker 4>mean more for him.

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<v Speaker 5>Well there's that, But can I ask, like, did they

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<v Speaker 5>attack the McRib or did they attack McDonald's overall, because

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<v Speaker 5>if you attack McDonald's, this is like from you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the famous speech from Animal House, then you're attacking the

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<v Speaker 5>United States America.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, No, No, it was just the McRib.

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<v Speaker 4>Still, I think you could make the same Uh, you

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<v Speaker 4>could make the same progression, John. If you attacked the McRib,

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<v Speaker 4>you're attacking McDonald's, which means you are attacking the United

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<v Speaker 2>I did think, I mean, look, I'm I'm a good

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<v Speaker 2>old fashioned proto wasp, and I did think it was

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<v Speaker 2>interesting and revealing who exactly a'm on the commentary crowd

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<v Speaker 2>or not, shall we say, strictly observant Jews when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to their fast food preference sell.

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<v Speaker 5>Then how do they know what a mcgrip tastes like?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 5>Can it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I was wondering. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>So the usual trouble. Oh, this is going to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>And this is just once again the snooty New York

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<v Speaker 1>I think?

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<v Speaker 2>By when we move on from that and say that

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite executive order, John, I think you should be

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<v Speaker 2>for this is Uh. Trump should mandate that mcgribby part

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<v Speaker 2>of the school lunch program. Then we'd have it year round.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 5>All that plus next you know how he usually welcomes.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember he welcomed I think the NCAA men's football champions

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<v Speaker 5>or basketball. I remember he had a big picture of

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<v Speaker 5>him piled in the White House, piled with big max

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<v Speaker 5>and quarter pounders. Well he should add mcgribs next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I I mean he was by the ways everything

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<v Speaker 2>and they had Chick fil a and again he had

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<v Speaker 2>all the you know but this true?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, who I wouldn't. But look, this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's that, as you all know, the McRib is a

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<v Speaker 5>very special sandwich. It's not available all the time. It

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<v Speaker 5>only comes out for certain precise seasons. And I bet

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<v Speaker 5>that wasn't available when Trump had his celebration. Sam, Yeah, oh, Rush,

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<v Speaker 5>I could spam sushi they'd be more lucky. But I

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<v Speaker 5>bet you know, I bet the guys on commentary don't

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<v Speaker 5>know this because they don't even even really eat mcgribs.

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<v Speaker 5>They just look down on America.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, that's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me change that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're declaring limited war, not unconditional total war.

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<v Speaker 5>So is there anything whatever leads you to believe that

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<v Speaker 5>Lucretia or I believe in limited war?

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, I had a whole thought about that that

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<v Speaker 2>I believe on the cutting room floor. One other piece

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<v Speaker 2>of housekeeping, briefly, listeners, the reason we're coming on a

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<v Speaker 2>little later than usual, you know, half a day late,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever is. I was on the road to something, John,

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<v Speaker 2>you actually got me involved in. I had to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to Villanova Law School to be the keynote speaker, and,

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<v Speaker 2>much to my sort of discomfort because I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>and Culture, so pretty broad scale. I had no idea

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<v Speaker 2>John that, and I clearly have brought down their average.

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<v Speaker 2>But among the luminaries who've been their keynote speakers and

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<v Speaker 2>focus for the day include Justice Scalia obviously many years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>Martha Nusbam, who I don't like worth of darn, but

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<v Speaker 2>she's a big figure in the sort of academic philosophical world.

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<v Speaker 1>And then how did I get on this list?

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<v Speaker 5>And anyway, it's about conservative thought? What did you tell them?

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<v Speaker 5>I read the paper. I hope you'll post it, but

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<v Speaker 5>I was hoping at least if seventy five to one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred great minds came together at least someone would finally

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<v Speaker 5>be able to figure out what the hell you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think you're just too optimistic, John.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, I just do want to say

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to Patrick Brennan, who had.

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<v Speaker 1>Never met before.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a great guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a very serious guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and has a you know, an interesting political philosophy

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<v Speaker 2>though he became a law professor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and to his staff.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Steven Smith from Yale was there, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's a very nice guy in a very gentle manner.

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<v Speaker 2>But he picked a fight with me on a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of things where he thought I'd gone too.

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<v Speaker 1>Far and that was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Mahoney and I had dinner the night before and

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<v Speaker 2>got shushed in the restaurant for talking too loudly.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh where'd you go?

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<v Speaker 1>What was Steve?

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<v Speaker 5>Steve's Steve's cheesteaks, Steve's No.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we were out in what rabb Hopefully.

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<v Speaker 4>They weren't a no no no.

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<v Speaker 2>We were at a nice restaurant in the hotel we

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<v Speaker 2>were staying, and we a few patrons found.

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<v Speaker 1>Us to be too loud, and that's probably true.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan's a large, loud guy and saw my and I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen him for ten years. Anyway, it was fun

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<v Speaker 2>and I will probably post the paper awesome anyway, And

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<v Speaker 2>then the only other thing is, you know, I keep

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<v Speaker 2>threatening We're gonna do three whiskey happy hour whiskey glasses

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder should we do onesies? I mean, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The way the hell are you onesies? See you missed

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<v Speaker 1>this too, John. It was the highlight of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Bernie Sanders glowering at RFK Junior, pointing to a

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<v Speaker 1>You do you support these onesies? And in my mind,

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<v Speaker 4>the what Chris Chris Christie also wears onesies. Anyway, The

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I in my mind, I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>conjure up Bernie Sanders changing a diaper. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>The Maha moms. John, Are you aware of the Maha moms?

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<v Speaker 4>And there supposedly the movement out there of the Maha

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<v Speaker 4>Clinton into power. We'll see, yeah see, but that was

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<v Speaker 2>Well, anyway, listeners, this week we are going to do

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<v Speaker 2>messages from our sponsors. Don't go away, all right, Lucretia

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<v Speaker 1>What's on your mind this week?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there's a lot on my mind, but you only

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<v Speaker 4>are going to let me talk about one of those things.

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<v Speaker 4>So I had to prioritize here and what I want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about for all of my faithful listeners out there,

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<v Speaker 4>who are in fact of the faithful i e. Catholics,

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<v Speaker 4>this was an interesting week for all of us, a

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<v Speaker 4>very interesting week. So you have jd Vance, who is,

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<v Speaker 4>mentality where whatever the Pope says is gospel, sorry forgive

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<v Speaker 4>and faith and what the bishops say. But what came

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<v Speaker 4>out this week very clearly, and you can again thank

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<v Speaker 4>is that the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, which

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<v Speaker 4>it turns out that they have received over the course

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<v Speaker 4>of let's just say, the Biden administration. It didn't start

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<v Speaker 4>in the Biden administration, but it got much worse, literally

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<v Speaker 4>shall we say, assistants to refugees and immigrants. And know,

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<v Speaker 4>way through the mountains. You know, it's the whole thing

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<v Speaker 4>is despicable, especially because I mean, the bishops came out

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<v Speaker 4>this week and they trashed Trump's executive orders on immigration

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<v Speaker 4>and his deportation. As you put it, John, we're not

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to say deportation anymore. We have to say removal, right,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the legal word that along with illegal aliens. That's

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<v Speaker 4>that's in the law too, Okay, illegal aliens. And so

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they're finding that this goes against Christian practice

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<v Speaker 4>and so on, and and of course you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>hypocrisy is so thick here because all of these last

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<v Speaker 4>every possible way, pro transgender you know, on and on

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<v Speaker 4>administration at least nodded at, nodded to by Biden. If

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not he was behind them, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 4>gets on there with Margaret Margaret, I won't, I won't.

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<v Speaker 4>I won't run it for you. Steve, I'll leave it

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<v Speaker 4>for you. But and and has this interesting discussion and it's,

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<v Speaker 4>believe it or not, a discussion that we had a

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<v Speaker 4>few weeks ago, and one of our listeners took me

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<v Speaker 4>And that is the notion it was when we were

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<v Speaker 4>talk about Jimmy Carter, and I said that the thing

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<v Speaker 4>I found most despicable about Jimmy Carter was when he

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<v Speaker 4>and I just you know, that's everything that that defines

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<v Speaker 4>everything that's despicable about the Left, which is, let's care

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<v Speaker 4>about people. Let's let's show, let's virtue signal how much

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<v Speaker 4>we care about people that we can't do much about.

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<v Speaker 4>We certainly can't personally do anything about it. We can

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<v Speaker 4>what we should do it for good Christians or whatever. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>Jamie Vance took him down, and he did it by

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<v Speaker 4>he did it by referencing a biblical precept, something out

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<v Speaker 4>of Thomas Aquinas called the Ordo Amorus or the order

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<v Speaker 4>of Love. And it's really very clear in Christian theology.

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<v Speaker 4>Despite people who want to say that the Good Samaritan

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<v Speaker 4>going to do a sermon today, I promise, but the

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<v Speaker 4>order of love is very simple God, you, your family,

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a whole lot of reasons for it, which

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<v Speaker 2>also sort of a minor scandal to share with John.

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<v Speaker 1>It relates to aquinas a litill find funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, look, Advance did this with a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>trumpy and genius and baiting the liberals to expose themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>because never mind the theology for a moment, to say

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<v Speaker 2>that you should care about migrants as much as or

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<v Speaker 2>more than your own family, is that really a good

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<v Speaker 2>look for liberals? I mean, that just goes against nature,

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<v Speaker 2>never mind theology.

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<v Speaker 4>It's incredible, that's why they push it, because it goes

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, the fair point, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that goes along with the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The bit about the Catholic bishops, I mean, boy, I

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<v Speaker 2>when they were behind the nuclear freeze and opposing Reagan's

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<v Speaker 2>foreign policy. But about the federal grants to Catholic charities

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<v Speaker 2>and such, that's been going on for a long time

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<v Speaker 2>for all kinds of things, you know, homeless services and

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<v Speaker 2>the details but they might as well not have the

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<v Speaker 1>Conditional that there's no spiritual.

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<v Speaker 2>they usually aly to an NGO. Really, I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these Catholic organizations are laundering the money from

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<v Speaker 2>the NGOs who do the actual work. And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>this was an issue with you know, President George W.

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<v Speaker 2>Bush's Faith based initiatives. They wanted to chip away at that, thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're gonna have a faith based organizations,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll let them talk about their faith as an

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<v Speaker 2>element in those services they deliver. Right, No, of course

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<v Speaker 2>there's lots of problems there, but that was controversial with

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent secular. And then finally John Halter over

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<v Speaker 2>to you. So John Carlow and I'm forgetting his last

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<v Speaker 2>name for heritage, was at the conference. I keep wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to call him Carfano, but that's James the forum. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>John Carla was very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Young guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Carlo cam That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>John Carlo Camparo told the funny story.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, well, boot boot on heritage, then really that

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<v Speaker 1>And anyway, that was funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Take it off your taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know, anyway, John, what do you have to

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<v Speaker 2>add on if anything?

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<v Speaker 5>Or well, you guys are both Catholic, right, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>get why Steve's like our friend.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, I'm Eastern Orthodox?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>No? Oh gosh, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know this.

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<v Speaker 2>Icons in your house, Well, this is my I have

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<v Speaker 2>a few here and there, not very many that part

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<v Speaker 5>Know, Steve does smell like incense all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do even more incense than the High Church

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<v Speaker 2>Episcopal Church of which you left. But well, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>of istan Bull back to Constantinople and then he can

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I've been talking about that for decades. The game.

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<v Speaker 4>I okay, anyway, so wait, can I just one last

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<v Speaker 4>thing before John goes on? But you didn't give us

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, sorry, Actually should just take that remember that list

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<v Speaker 5>of Stanford for in words, right, you should just have

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I still loved.

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<v Speaker 5>That episode where we had a contest to you who

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<v Speaker 1>Either of us trying it in sixty seconds it was around.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't even you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Retarded was on there, I think, but not there anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to put them together, oh somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So my question was, you know, one, why does the

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<v Speaker 5>Catholic Church allow these people in the hierarchy to speak

431
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<v Speaker 5>on political issues as if they represent the Catholic churches

432
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<v Speaker 5>and institutions? Says one question, But then the second question

433
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<v Speaker 5>is I I remember the Catholic bishops and a lot

434
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<v Speaker 5>of other religious leaders came out against Reagan's foreign policy

435
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<v Speaker 5>and called for nuclear zero, And I mean the idea

436
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<v Speaker 5>that they would be commenting on the deployment on intermediate

437
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<v Speaker 5>range ballistics well missiles in Europe, the pershings, which actually

438
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<v Speaker 5>had a lot to do with helping the end the

439
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<v Speaker 5>Cold War. But I think because of that, could you

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<v Speaker 5>say that the rank and file Catholics have lost a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of faith in their leadership and institution because of

442
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<v Speaker 5>things like that. So I'll make a point as someone

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<v Speaker 5>who went to an Episcopalian school and go to Episcopalian church,

444
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<v Speaker 5>is there was a lot of controversy about the Episcopalian

445
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<v Speaker 5>bishop by I guess, giving an openly political speech at

446
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<v Speaker 5>the National Cathedral with the President and the audience and

447
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<v Speaker 5>making a plea on behalf of illegal aliens and gays

448
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<v Speaker 5>and transferred, you know, the people that she thought were

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<v Speaker 5>going to be harmed by President Trump's orders. Regardless of

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<v Speaker 5>what you think about that one way or the other,

451
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<v Speaker 5>I think it's inappropriate for church leader to be commenting

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<v Speaker 5>like that, particularly in front of the elected leadership of

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<v Speaker 5>the country. So it makes me not to It makes me,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, not want to take the leadership of the

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<v Speaker 5>episcopal church all that.

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<v Speaker 4>Seriously, well, you're absolutely right, John. By the way, that woman,

457
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<v Speaker 4>that bishop, the Washington Bishop received an organization she runs

458
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<v Speaker 4>out of there received fifty three million dollars in immigration

459
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<v Speaker 4>assistance federal moneies fifty last year fifty three million dollars.

460
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<v Speaker 4>So she had a little bit of a financial interest

461
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<v Speaker 4>in that as well, which is the big problem with

462
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<v Speaker 4>all of it. But for just a moment, you know, here,

463
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<v Speaker 4>here's the problem. And I know people who are Catholic

464
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<v Speaker 4>who say they won't go to the Catholic Church anymore

465
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<v Speaker 4>because of Pope Francis, because of this or that. I

466
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<v Speaker 4>am again, I'm probably not the best person to speak

467
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<v Speaker 4>to this because I'm not a cradle Catholic. So i

468
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<v Speaker 4>didn't grow up believing that, you know, when the Pope

469
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<v Speaker 4>spoke it was the word of God. And the whole

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<v Speaker 4>idea is crazy to me. I know what the the

471
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<v Speaker 4>I know what the you know the rules are about it,

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<v Speaker 4>and so on. But here's the point to remember. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>if you are indeed a Christian of some kind, you

474
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<v Speaker 4>have to realize that at church that church, your church,

475
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<v Speaker 4>my church, the universal Church whatever, is a man made

476
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<v Speaker 4>institution and it's going to be run by fallible human beings.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing one, thing two back to you guys. As mentioning

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<v Speaker 4>of what happened during the eighties and so on, there

479
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<v Speaker 4>was a very serious and successful effort on the part

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<v Speaker 4>of the Soviet Union to undermine the Catholic Church worldwide,

481
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<v Speaker 4>especially in South America. That's where you get the liberation

482
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<v Speaker 4>theology that our current pope is such an adherent of.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was manifestly successful. And the other thing that

484
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<v Speaker 4>they did was they infiltrated the seminaries. And I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to go on after this rever because I know

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<v Speaker 4>you want to move on, but I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>get those points out to you. So John, here's the point.

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<v Speaker 4>Our Catholic leadership was so stupid. They fell for this

489
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<v Speaker 4>infiltration attempt by the Soviet Union and turned themselves completely political.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, by the way, I used to back in the

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<v Speaker 2>eighties refer to liberation theology, which really disappeared till Francis

492
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<v Speaker 2>came back. But I always referred to it then as

493
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<v Speaker 2>Marxism with salsa, because it really was.

494
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they had always.

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<v Speaker 2>Books about synthesizing Marxism and Christianity quite directly. However, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it should be mentioned that while our Conference of

497
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<v Speaker 2>Catholic Bishops was so bad on those questions, the French

498
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<v Speaker 2>and German bishops I think it was French and bishop

499
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<v Speaker 2>might have been Italian, but certainly the German bishops put

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<v Speaker 2>out their own paper dissenting from what the American bishop said,

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<v Speaker 2>and what they said was a long thoughtful I haven't

502
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<v Speaker 2>read it now for forty years, but I still have

503
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<v Speaker 2>a copy somewhere. What they said was no, no nuclear weapons,

504
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<v Speaker 2>and their deployment in our countries is consistent with just

505
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<v Speaker 2>war theory and a necessary thing to do so, and

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<v Speaker 2>that I suspect Cardinal Ratzinger had his hand on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Later Pope Benedict right now, I think I mentioned once before.

508
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<v Speaker 2>I know I have talked to some people about this.

509
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<v Speaker 2>I maybe said it on one of our episodes that

510
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<v Speaker 2>I've been hearing for a while anecdotally that the current

511
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<v Speaker 2>generation of Catholic seminarians are much more conservative and by

512
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<v Speaker 2>the way, much more heterosexual. That's has been a real

513
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<v Speaker 2>problem in past decades, right, And that was that was.

514
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<v Speaker 4>A little bit like DEI in the seminaries. They were

515
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<v Speaker 4>purposely choosing seminarians who exhibited.

516
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<v Speaker 2>Minor attractions. They're supposed to say these days, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know what a felia. But anyway, the last point I'll

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<v Speaker 2>say is that I just lately saw some data and

519
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<v Speaker 2>I think I'll put this up as a daily chart

520
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<v Speaker 2>on power Line that surveys of Catholic seminarians going back

521
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<v Speaker 2>like twenty five thirty years and showing, in fact, a

522
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<v Speaker 2>rising number of Catholic seminarians are conservative, which means that

523
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<v Speaker 2>the age of Francis will be behind us, perhaps not

524
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<v Speaker 2>just to the top, but further down the ladder.

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<v Speaker 1>Two.

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<v Speaker 4>So remember my priest, my young Filipino priest, who would

527
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<v Speaker 4>come at and at the end of every every mass

528
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:09.119
<v Speaker 4>would do the Hail Mary and say, let's just pray

529
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<v Speaker 4>to Mother Mary to rid the world of the chief

530
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<v Speaker 4>peoples of communism and socialism.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then John all I can say, I mean, that's

533
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<v Speaker 2>episcopalian for a long time, and used to say I'm

534
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<v Speaker 2>not gonna let him kick me out until I couldn't stand.

535
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<v Speaker 1>It any longer.

536
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<v Speaker 2>But our reform project should be, or yours should be,

537
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<v Speaker 2>let's bring back the old days. Of when the Episcopal

538
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<v Speaker 2>Church was known as the Republican Party at prayer, which

539
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<v Speaker 2>you said that you.

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<v Speaker 5>And I got to say, I don't have a lot

541
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<v Speaker 5>of respect I mean for the Episcopalian. So I was

542
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<v Speaker 5>listening to a sermon because the Bishop of California, I

543
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<v Speaker 5>think he was keen to the little church I was in,

544
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<v Speaker 5>happened to be there, and his whole sermon was about

545
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<v Speaker 5>why Christianity demanded that we do something about climate change?

546
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just say, are you like out of your

548
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<v Speaker 5>like you're just so like you just should not be

549
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<v Speaker 5>in charge anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Nowhere both Episcopalians and Catholics have a real revival is

552
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<v Speaker 4>Africa in church. The Anglican Church in Africa is vibrant

553
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<v Speaker 4>and committed to the Bible. The Catholic Church is the

554
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<v Speaker 4>same way in Africa throughout it throughout most of Africa.

555
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<v Speaker 4>I should say, sorry, see if you're thinking.

556
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I am.

557
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<v Speaker 5>But I was wondering, like, because when they when you

558
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<v Speaker 5>sing this sys and they're going, how can you prioritize

559
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<v Speaker 5>lower forms of life over human life as a religious leader,

560
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<v Speaker 5>Because if you really want to, you know, do something

561
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<v Speaker 5>about climate change, you have to be in favor of

562
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<v Speaker 5>policies that reduce the population size, that's what they're really doing.

563
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<v Speaker 5>And so there are these people in the church who

564
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<v Speaker 5>think this, who are allegedly pro life. Are they not

565
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<v Speaker 5>elevating actually the other forms of nature above human life

566
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<v Speaker 5>in their policies. Then that just as when I was

567
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<v Speaker 5>listening as this sertment, I was like, this is this

568
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<v Speaker 5>runs counter It seems to me. Well the idea that you're,

569
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<v Speaker 5>you know, the Christian is a pro life, pro human life.

570
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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't believe it. And then I was like, you're

571
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<v Speaker 5>so so non logical and you're thinking you should just

572
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<v Speaker 5>not be in charge of anything, But that's how you

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<v Speaker 5>get to be the bishop.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you bring that up sparked of synaps in my

575
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<v Speaker 2>head that wasn't killed off by my non dry January.

576
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<v Speaker 2>The first sentence, as I recall, in the Catholic bishop's

577
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<v Speaker 2>statements against nuclear weapons in the nineteen eighties, and this

578
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<v Speaker 2>was highlighted by Professor Jaffa in Class Lucretia, The first

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<v Speaker 2>sentence was the existence something like this, the existence of

580
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<v Speaker 2>nuclear weapons calls into question the sovereignty of God. Professor

581
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<v Speaker 2>jaff would say, is it really now Catholic doctrine to

582
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<v Speaker 2>doubt the omnipotence of God. Climate change you can drop

583
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<v Speaker 2>in place of nuclear weapons, and it's the same thing.

584
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<v Speaker 2>It's it's actually a theological heresy, if not just total

585
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<v Speaker 2>lack of confidence in their own faith, in their own beliefs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I have to say, Lucretia, do you have

587
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<v Speaker 1>a life?

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa with what John said? I mean, I imagine our

589
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 4>listeners are already born with our theological discussions here. But

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<v Speaker 4>because it was such a big deal this past week,

591
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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was worth bringing up. And I saw

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of Catholics because there's a group of Catholics

593
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<v Speaker 4>I follow on social media, and that gets me in

594
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<v Speaker 4>trouble sometimes, so I'll leave that aside. They're all saying

595
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<v Speaker 4>we're better off being led at the Catholic Church by J. D. Vanson.

596
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<v Speaker 4>We are the pope or the Catholic bishops. Yeah, which is?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

598
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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure your friend that I won't mention here would

599
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<v Speaker 4>love to hear that. John.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, all right, we need to go to a break,

601
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<v Speaker 2>if for no other reason that I need a couple

602
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<v Speaker 2>of minutes to catch my breath. After Lucretius saying she agreed,

603
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<v Speaker 2>with me one hundred percent. This is a rare moment.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't go away, people, We'll be right back. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're back.

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<v Speaker 2>And John, I'm throwing the mic to you. What's on

607
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<v Speaker 2>uppermost in your mind this week?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm still thinking about the never trumpers who draw the

609
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<v Speaker 5>line at you know, not eating mcribs. But I will

610
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<v Speaker 5>I thought what I would raise was, to me, it's

611
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<v Speaker 5>a part of the same phenomenon, which is the confirmation hearings,

612
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<v Speaker 5>plus what's been going on with law enforcement and the

613
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<v Speaker 5>Justice Department. So you know, a lot of these headlines.

614
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<v Speaker 5>So many things happened this week. But the thing that

615
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<v Speaker 5>was interesting to me, and I think they're tied together,

616
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<v Speaker 5>was so President Trump has through the Attorney General, the

617
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<v Speaker 5>person who's the acting Attorney General, through the US Attorney

618
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<v Speaker 5>in Washington, d C. Who are all both acting right

619
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<v Speaker 5>now because they're pending Pam Bondi being confirmed. And then

620
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<v Speaker 5>whoever President Trump puts in DC firing all the prosecutors

621
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<v Speaker 5>who worked on the January sixth cases, in the Special

622
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<v Speaker 5>Council cases against him, and.

623
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<v Speaker 4>Has been done. John, I thought, I read this is.

624
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<v Speaker 5>One question is whether it's actually legal to do. And

625
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<v Speaker 5>then there's a story in the Washington Post today and

626
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<v Speaker 5>yesterday that apparently this is going to happen at the

627
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<v Speaker 5>FBI too, that FBI leaders are right now asking for

628
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<v Speaker 5>the names of the FBI agents who worked on the

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<v Speaker 5>January sixth and the Special Council investigations. So that's one,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, huge thing, plus President Trump flying all the

631
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<v Speaker 5>firing all the inspector generals and all the agencies. That's

632
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<v Speaker 5>another thing. And then you had the hearings this week

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<v Speaker 5>for the we talked a little about RFK Junior. I

634
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<v Speaker 5>guess so the ones that I focusing song was the

635
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<v Speaker 5>way that Cash Patel's hearings went versus Telsea Gabbard, And

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<v Speaker 5>so one thing issued I reason I wrote a few

637
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<v Speaker 5>pieces this week. They just happened to all come out

638
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<v Speaker 5>this week. They weren't all time to be this week,

639
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<v Speaker 5>but I had written different times.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was wondering. Yeah, Frank got a lot, Okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Which is like how what this all means about law fair?

642
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 5>The end of law fair and so on, and so

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00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:10.319
<v Speaker 5>one way to understand what Trump is doing is that

644
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 5>this is a less damaging way to end lawfare, because

645
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 5>the thing he could do, and I've speculated he might do.

646
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<v Speaker 5>This is to actually investigate and prosecute criminally the people

647
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<v Speaker 5>who actually undertook the whole lawfair campaign. Because if in fact,

648
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<v Speaker 5>and this applied, maybe applies more to the district attorney

649
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<v Speaker 5>in New York, the Attorney general in New York, the

650
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<v Speaker 5>district attorney Fanny Willison. You know these are you know,

651
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<v Speaker 5>this is a Lucretia's Hall of Fame, hall of Shame,

652
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 5>and the DA her friend Fanny Willis in Georgia. But

653
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<v Speaker 5>it also might extend to the Special Council Jack Smith

654
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:55.079
<v Speaker 5>and so on is did they actually launch these prosecutions

655
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<v Speaker 5>of Donald Trump to affect his ability to run in

656
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<v Speaker 5>the election, Because if they did, then they are violating

657
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<v Speaker 5>his constitutional rights and they're violating the constitutional rights of

658
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<v Speaker 5>the voters. This is the theory that Jack Smith actually

659
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<v Speaker 5>used to prosecute Donald Trump. So if that's true, I

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<v Speaker 5>think at the minimum Trump could launch invest have the

661
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<v Speaker 5>just uprin launch investigations. I would say, particularly targeted at

662
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<v Speaker 5>state prosecutors, state attorney generals, because the last thing I

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<v Speaker 5>think we want is states interfering with the ability of

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<v Speaker 5>federal candidates to run for office. So you could say,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, so the left has been hammering Pambondie and

666
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<v Speaker 5>Tulca Gabbert and Cash betelsing, Oh, you would never countenance that. Well,

667
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<v Speaker 5>if liberals don't want that to happen, then the less

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<v Speaker 5>aggressive position is President Trump firing all the people who

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<v Speaker 5>worked on these prosecutions that he thinks were wrong, that

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<v Speaker 5>actually his lawyers took the position in court that they

671
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<v Speaker 5>were unconstitutional. So this is where it all comes back

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<v Speaker 5>into the bigger things we like to talk about, is

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<v Speaker 5>that a president is allowed to have a different view

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<v Speaker 5>of the law than the courts. And so President Trump,

675
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<v Speaker 5>if he wants to think, and he's entitled to think,

676
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.519
<v Speaker 5>that the prosecutions were unconstitutional, then he ought to fire

677
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<v Speaker 5>everybody who participated in them, because why should he tolerate

678
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.199
<v Speaker 5>people in his administration who were doing, in his view,

679
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 5>appatently unconstitutional things. In my mind, it's the same thing

680
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<v Speaker 5>as Lincoln saying he wouldn't enforce dred Scott, Obey dread Scott,

681
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:31.360
<v Speaker 5>same thing as Jefferson pardoning everyone who's been convicted under

682
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<v Speaker 5>the Alien Sedition acts. So, in a funny way, I

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<v Speaker 5>think what's been happening this week, while it's driving the

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<v Speaker 5>left crazy, they should be grateful that that is as

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<v Speaker 5>far as Trump has gone so far. The other point

686
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 5>is he's i think, also usefully restoring the idea that

687
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<v Speaker 5>the president is in charge of law enforcement. So notice

688
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<v Speaker 5>what Biden tried to do was, oh, no, I'm not

689
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<v Speaker 5>involved in any of this. It's a special counsel is

690
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.440
<v Speaker 5>allowed to do what he wants, and oh, these states,

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<v Speaker 5>I have nothing to do with these states going on

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<v Speaker 5>after federal candidates.

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<v Speaker 4>The worst part was it was a lie.

694
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, that's part of the investigation, is that

695
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.760
<v Speaker 5>you'll be able to get the emails and discussion notes

696
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.559
<v Speaker 5>of all the people who participate in these meetings. But

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<v Speaker 5>at least Trump is making clear firing these agents, firing

698
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 5>the prosecutors, firing the inspector generals. The president is actually,

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<v Speaker 5>in the constitution, the head of all federal law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 5>and he has a duty actually to remove people who

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<v Speaker 5>won't carry out the views of the constitution that he holds.

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<v Speaker 5>So now it's going to be a great fight. It's

703
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<v Speaker 5>going to be a great civil service fight because you know,

704
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<v Speaker 5>these prosecutors, some of them and FBI agents are going

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<v Speaker 5>to say I'm being fired in violation of the Civil

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<v Speaker 5>Service Act.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah but now my understanding is right, there's a legal

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<v Speaker 2>question mark there.

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<v Speaker 1>My understanding is, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I've read a few pieces about this this week.

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<v Speaker 1>No one has yet filed suit yes to say my

712
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>firing was illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>And the speculation that I kind of love this, that

714
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<v Speaker 2>the left is actually paranoid. This way, I applaud Trump

715
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<v Speaker 2>one more time. There's speculation that Trump is setting a

716
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 2>trap for them because this will elevate a reconsideration of

717
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Humphrey's executor, the famous case that said there are limits

718
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<v Speaker 2>on the president's ability to control quote unquote independent agencies

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<v Speaker 2>and executive branch, which I think is widely thought to

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<v Speaker 2>be defective and vulnerable, not just by but this.

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<v Speaker 4>Morrison versus Olsen is a better for the law enforcement.

722
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<v Speaker 4>It's a better precedent for the left on law enforcement. Right,

723
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<v Speaker 4>even though everybody acknowledges it was now that Scalia was right,

724
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Sclio was right. Yeah, And I do have a really

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<v Speaker 4>quick question for you, though, John, before you go back

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<v Speaker 4>to answering that, and that is, do you think that

727
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<v Speaker 4>eighteen US two forty one could also be used against

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<v Speaker 4>the fifty one intelligence experts?

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<v Speaker 5>If you have the this is actually the Biden administration's theory.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually thought it was too expensive their argument, and

731
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<v Speaker 5>the lower court in Washington, d c. Upheld it. The

732
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<v Speaker 5>Supreme Court didn't reach this in the immunity case, but

733
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<v Speaker 5>the lower court upheld it. Which is the idea. Section

734
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<v Speaker 5>two forty one makes a criminal to violate the constitutional

735
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<v Speaker 5>rights federal constitutional rights people. Yes, the ku klux klin x.

736
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<v Speaker 5>So if they actually did it to interfere with the election,

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<v Speaker 5>this is the theory. Now the problem with this theory,

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<v Speaker 5>I'd be first admitted. I think this is why when

739
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<v Speaker 5>we talked about it is, you know, there's got to

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<v Speaker 5>be a limit because every political trick and campaign and

741
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<v Speaker 5>drytch can't be the subject of a federal criminal prosecution.

742
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<v Speaker 5>So that's why it's easier to say. The way I

743
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<v Speaker 5>think of it is, look at what Fanny Willison Bragg did.

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<v Speaker 5>Suppose a Southern da did that during the time of

745
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<v Speaker 5>and I'm sure they did did this during the time

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<v Speaker 5>of segregation to keep black candidates from running for office.

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<v Speaker 5>Would anyone have any doubt Section two forty one not

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<v Speaker 5>apply to what they did. So I think it's even

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<v Speaker 5>worse if you think about it being used for partisan purposes.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you know that people could engage in targeting

751
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<v Speaker 5>people on partisan grounds and taking away their constitutional rights.

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<v Speaker 2>That's well, let me make a devil's advocate point and

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<v Speaker 2>then a second point that will rescue me with lucretia,

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<v Speaker 2>because you won't like my first point, and that is

755
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<v Speaker 2>Brendon and all those people will say, you know, we

756
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<v Speaker 2>didn't say, we didn't make a factual claim that the

757
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<v Speaker 2>laptop was Russian disinformation.

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<v Speaker 1>Our language was it bore the hallmarks. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lawyerly evasion and maybe a court may or

760
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<v Speaker 1>maybe or maybe a court would buy that or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. However, I believe point two.

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<v Speaker 2>They should be prosecuted aggressively, regardless of that whether that

763
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<v Speaker 2>evasion is illegally exculpates them or.

764
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<v Speaker 1>Not, on the grounds that the process is the punishment.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see Brendan have to spend a million

766
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<v Speaker 2>dollars them.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, even before you find churches, you have to have

768
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<v Speaker 5>an investigation. And this is an investigation. You'll get to know,

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<v Speaker 5>right why who wrote this up? Why did they write

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<v Speaker 5>it up? You know, did they know that it was

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<v Speaker 5>actually true?

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<v Speaker 4>And they did know there's all the evidence in the

773
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<v Speaker 4>world that they knew I mean, the FBI knew that

774
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<v Speaker 4>the laptop was real. The FBI knew the laptop was real,

775
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<v Speaker 4>and the CIA that signed off on it, that ridiculous

776
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<v Speaker 4>affirmative action idiot Gina haspell She signed off on it,

777
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<v Speaker 4>She actively signed off on it, and she knew it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't Russian disinformation. I mean that if they do an investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>But back to what John was saying, though, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>do we want to go down that road? It does

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<v Speaker 4>seem to be quite the punishment for poor John Brennan

782
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 4>that his security clearance was taken away because he's out

783
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<v Speaker 4>there whining about it like a two year old, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm loving every minute of that. I don't know, I

785
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<v Speaker 4>think it should be more those I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye, remember about Brennan.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Mike pal Lloyd Billingsley makes this point

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again. I don't think we've ever made

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<v Speaker 2>it on our podcast. That guy admits that he voted

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<v Speaker 2>for Gus Hall, the Communist Party candidate for president, back

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy six.

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<v Speaker 4>He changed his mind. It'd be fine. I don't care

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<v Speaker 4>what happened in seventy six.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of us were then.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>What he's done subsequently, that's such a problem.

797
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I agree to that, but that's ought to

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<v Speaker 2>be a red flag that this guy might not have

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<v Speaker 2>been altogether there for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, just one last point about the hearings. So the

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<v Speaker 5>interesting thing to me was that Cash Patel, who has

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<v Speaker 5>openly talked about right doing exactly this, seems to have

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<v Speaker 5>skated through his confirmation hearings. In fact, you know, watching

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<v Speaker 5>the different clips, I was amazed at how demoralized the

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00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.679
<v Speaker 5>Democrats were. I don't think they really laid a finger

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<v Speaker 5>on him. I mean, when it started out all the

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<v Speaker 5>cabinets nominees and you look at their paperwreck, he would

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<v Speaker 5>have should have been the most vulnerable one because he's

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<v Speaker 5>been doing podcasts for years. He has said some really

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<v Speaker 5>extreme things. I mean, he makes Lucretia look.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a squish. Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>But the interesting thing to me is the one that

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<v Speaker 5>looks like she's gonna not make it is Tulca Gabbert,

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<v Speaker 5>And from what I can tell, it's not really her

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<v Speaker 5>views on the Patriot Act and what's called Section seven

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<v Speaker 5>and two, which we can talk about some other time.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if Lucretian and I disagree about section

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<v Speaker 5>seven to two. But what it sounds like why senators

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<v Speaker 5>are not going to vote for her is because she

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<v Speaker 5>kind of you know, you know, defends Edward Snowden, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's a good reason not to.

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<v Speaker 4>The defense is not wholehearted, maybe really quickly, let me

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<v Speaker 4>let's let's be at least subtle, which, of course Democratic

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<v Speaker 4>senators with an IQ below room temperature are incapable of subtleties.

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<v Speaker 4>But what she says is what he did was wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>but what he what he uncovered was terrible. What he

827
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<v Speaker 4>did was illegal, But what he uncovered was unconstitutional behavior

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<v Speaker 4>by our government. And I mean that's okay. Would have

829
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<v Speaker 4>have ever been found out if he had been unwilling

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<v Speaker 4>to I'm not a Snowden fan.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not trying to say that, but I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>say that that is not a totally unacceptable opinion if

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<v Speaker 4>you just do what I've seen many people do in

835
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<v Speaker 4>my world. Snowden, I mean, we almost lost a contract

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<v Speaker 4>with the government because another college had Snowden tried to

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<v Speaker 4>bring Snowden onto campus at one point, and the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the government takes that so seriously that we had to

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<v Speaker 4>like anyway, never mind all that, it's a subtle point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Snowden was wrong. He broke the law. He he betrayed

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<v Speaker 4>the trust that the United States government gave him. But

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<v Speaker 4>he could turn around and say, but the United States

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<v Speaker 4>government betrayed the trust of the American people, and my

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<v Speaker 4>whistleblowing made that clear.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think what he did. I don't think what

846
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<v Speaker 5>the government was doing was unconstitutional. But he I mean,

847
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<v Speaker 5>he leaked information which I think I believe led to

848
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:24.559
<v Speaker 5>the deaths of American agents, and so he should be executed. Yeah,

849
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:28.599
<v Speaker 5>that's just like that's you know, it's just like that.

850
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 5>But that's why I think it focuses the mind on

851
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:34.760
<v Speaker 5>what she actually believes, because she in the past has

852
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.079
<v Speaker 5>defended him and at the hearing would not repudiate it.

853
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 5>In fact, she evaded it several times, questions about it

854
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:45.159
<v Speaker 5>several times, And I think that's the kind of that's

855
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 5>the kind of question like this guy ysked no question

856
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:51.519
<v Speaker 5>on something that's very clear that I think shows why

857
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.159
<v Speaker 5>she's not to me. It probably won't make it because

858
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:55.519
<v Speaker 5>she couldn't answer that clearly.

859
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think she didn't want to break with you know, well,

860
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the Tucker Carlson fans, for example, I think that she

861
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 2>could have given an answer.

862
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm closer to your opinion. John.

863
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 2>It's one thing to give away potentially unconstitutional acts or

864
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 2>dubious acts of the.

865
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Government, but I think a better way they could be.

866
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the better thing to have done would

867
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.039
<v Speaker 2>have been to take it to You're going to be

868
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a Paul when I say this, but let me finish it.

869
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Take it to Adam Schiff or somebody in Congress and

870
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>say I've had this information with the government's done, you've

871
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 2>been mad at Bush and the War on Terror.

872
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.039
<v Speaker 1>You need to know about it because it's been concealed

873
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>from you.

874
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Now, this highlights to me the hypocrisy of the Democrats

875
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.079
<v Speaker 2>on this, because that is kind of how it was

876
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 2>done in the seventies when you had the Church Committee

877
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 2>in the Senate and the Pike Committee in the House

878
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:46.679
<v Speaker 2>investigating the CIA and the FBI, and especially the Pike Committee,

879
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:49.639
<v Speaker 2>what did they do. They leaked the findings like crazy

880
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.280
<v Speaker 2>to the media, and that would have happened in this case.

881
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 2>But now the information would have been coming from Democrats

882
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:59.000
<v Speaker 2>for partisan reasons, and there's a sort of different kind

883
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.679
<v Speaker 2>of accountability there. I think it's a mistake to celebrate,

884
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, Snowden being a free agent. I like that, right,

885
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 2>but and I think it would if Gabard thought about

886
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 2>that and given a better put my argument a little

887
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:13.639
<v Speaker 2>better than I just did, that could have been kind

888
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:14.639
<v Speaker 2>of interesting.

889
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Saying nothing is.

890
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 5>She's not being nominated to be secretary of HHS. I mean,

891
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 5>the reason why, okay, it matters is because she's in

892
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.199
<v Speaker 5>charge of the intelligence agencies.

893
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:27.360
<v Speaker 4>Except that. Here's but let me let me give the

894
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:31.119
<v Speaker 4>other side of the which I have sympathy for your

895
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:33.599
<v Speaker 4>point of view, John, But but the other side of

896
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:38.960
<v Speaker 4>it is the widespread belief that our intelligence agencies have

897
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:46.360
<v Speaker 4>been turned against Americans, and uh, Telsea Gabbard is one

898
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:49.519
<v Speaker 4>of the victims of that for no apparent reason other

899
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 4>than maybe her uh uh, you know, touting Edward Snowden.

900
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.519
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, But she herself has been the victim

901
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:03.719
<v Speaker 4>of what I would illegal, unconstitutional spying on a private citizen.

902
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:06.440
<v Speaker 4>We know that's the case. I think that's why she

903
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.440
<v Speaker 4>was given that job, or at least nominated for that job,

904
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:16.800
<v Speaker 4>because Trump understands that the entire intelligence community has proven

905
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Speaker 4>themselves with the fifty one and the you know, the fight,

906
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 4>the FISA warrants, all of that has proven themselves to

907
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:26.239
<v Speaker 4>be just abjectly corrupt.

908
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:29.599
<v Speaker 5>And I think there's two different things. I think there's

909
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 5>two different things, but I can see why in terms

910
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.000
<v Speaker 5>of politics people don't view them as two different things.

911
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.840
<v Speaker 5>But what Snowden revealed, I think, was that we were

912
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:45.480
<v Speaker 5>conducting warrantless surveillance basically on everybody abroad, which is not unconstitutional. Actually,

913
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 5>and actually when this was all revealed, then that's why

914
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 5>Section seven oh two becomes an issue, because Congress eventually

915
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.320
<v Speaker 5>approved it and passed a law to authorize it. That's different,

916
00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:00.119
<v Speaker 5>in my mind than what happened with Russia collusion and

917
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 5>all the ways intelligence agencies tried to stop Trump, which

918
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:07.320
<v Speaker 5>has nothing to do with our efforts to stop these

919
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.960
<v Speaker 5>foreign threats and terrorists. By intercepting all the communications in

920
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:12.880
<v Speaker 5>the rest of the world. I'm glad the government does it,

921
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.679
<v Speaker 5>but agreed, these guys. What they did is they use

922
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.880
<v Speaker 5>their intelligence, you know, positions to launch a political witch

923
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.239
<v Speaker 5>hunt against someone they didn't want to be president, which

924
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.280
<v Speaker 5>has nothing to do with what's Snowden.

925
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.199
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, I mean I wasn't trying. I was

926
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.360
<v Speaker 4>actually making a different point, John, I was making the

927
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.960
<v Speaker 4>second point, which is that I don't know that that

928
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:39.440
<v Speaker 4>many of Tulci Gabbard's supporters really care that much about Snowden.

929
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:41.119
<v Speaker 4>At least a lot of people that want to see her.

930
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 4>That Snowden's a separate issue. They are interested in her

931
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 4>simply because she already is saying we are not going

932
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:55.199
<v Speaker 4>to do business as usual, at least recent usual in

933
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 4>the intelligence world anymore. That's why that's do you see

934
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 4>what you're right? When they're two separate issues. I'm saying

935
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 4>that support for Tulsa Gabbard for the most part, has

936
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:10.199
<v Speaker 4>nothing to do with the snowed in question. It has

937
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:15.039
<v Speaker 4>to do with the concern about our intelligence Agency's the

938
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.480
<v Speaker 4>last thing I'll say, is it. By the way, I'm

939
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:20.239
<v Speaker 4>not sure that the d n I. There's a lot

940
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 4>of jokes going around there about the most important thing

941
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:26.519
<v Speaker 4>that the nominee for d n I could do, what

942
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:28.400
<v Speaker 4>the hearings would be explained why we need a d

943
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:29.400
<v Speaker 4>n I.

944
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I agree, Oh yeah, I was going to say that too. Yeah,

945
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.880
<v Speaker 2>it's that's the whole thing. Was a bad idea, But yeah, right,

946
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:35.880
<v Speaker 2>so right.

947
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:38.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm told that if she doesn't get it, Trump will

948
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:43.719
<v Speaker 4>maker national security advisor. Well no, and he's going to

949
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.239
<v Speaker 4>nominate the National Security advisor anyway.

950
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I switched Waltz and Gabbard.

951
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't. I think.

952
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:51.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if that's worse or better.

953
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.119
<v Speaker 1>I hear things about Waltz. I don't know much about them,

954
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 1>but I impressed.

955
00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, okay, I have no idea if that rumor

956
00:49:59.519 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 4>is true.

957
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Schlogon could be fun.

958
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:05.280
<v Speaker 5>Or we can make our governor of Canada. That would

959
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 5>be perfect. So I think people right, Oh, so I

960
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.039
<v Speaker 5>get to say what EO I liked so and it

961
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 5>also talks about the future. EO is I like the

962
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.480
<v Speaker 5>which it's not. It's only starting now to get the

963
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:22.519
<v Speaker 5>attention it deserves, which is the DEI Executive Order. Uh

964
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:26.320
<v Speaker 5>and Steve made this point this week that in the

965
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 5>New York Post about how it reverses Lyndon Johnson's Affirmative

966
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.480
<v Speaker 5>Action EO, which is something no Republican present has dare

967
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 5>touch before.

968
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.960
<v Speaker 2>H and Reagan thought about it and shrunk back from

969
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:41.280
<v Speaker 2>doing it.

970
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Bush didn't do it. Trump didn't do it his

971
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:49.000
<v Speaker 5>first term and would have normally caused enormous political uproar,

972
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.519
<v Speaker 5>but because of the blizzard of eos goes unnoticed. Now,

973
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:56.639
<v Speaker 5>I think that the Curnio has the germs of in

974
00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 5>it of a really important change, because right now it's

975
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:03.599
<v Speaker 5>a no more DEI within the government. And then it

976
00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:06.400
<v Speaker 5>says and the government agencies are now supposed to study

977
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:12.239
<v Speaker 5>whether government contractors and recipients of federal grants are engaging

978
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:17.920
<v Speaker 5>in DEI programs. And here's the catch that violate current law. Now,

979
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 5>I think that President Trump could instead go further and

980
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 5>issue AEO that says, no recipient of federal funds and

981
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.280
<v Speaker 5>no one who does business with the federal government shall

982
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:34.119
<v Speaker 5>use race in any of its operations are considered diversity,

983
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:38.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, DEI at all. That would be groundshaking because

984
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 5>every university in the country except Hillsdale and Growth City,

985
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:46.079
<v Speaker 5>I think, receives federal funding, right, and they're one of

986
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 5>the worst. Right, They're one of the worst violators of

987
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 5>color blindness. And it would apply to all the major government,

988
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:55.199
<v Speaker 5>the s and P. Five hundred, every major company in

989
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.320
<v Speaker 5>America would have to stop their DEI policies. That I

990
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.719
<v Speaker 5>think if he just added that one more sentence, that

991
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:05.400
<v Speaker 5>could really seal the deal. And really put a stake

992
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.519
<v Speaker 5>through this and this DEI business.

993
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 4>So can I just add a couple of things from

994
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 4>a personal point of view being at a university, I

995
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:17.000
<v Speaker 4>have watched the meltdown this past week, and what I

996
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:21.480
<v Speaker 4>what I was talking with John about earlier today, many

997
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 4>of these grants, some of them, regardless of what actually

998
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 4>ends up happening with the Title seven and Title nine interpretations,

999
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 4>things like USA ID and grants are going away. They

1000
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:39.679
<v Speaker 4>have already stopped expenditures, totally stopped expenditures on a number

1001
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:43.800
<v Speaker 4>of grants, like a grant for instance, that puts ten

1002
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 4>million dollars toward pay bringing in in the medical school

1003
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 4>graduate students and postdocs to do research in the grad

1004
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 4>in the medicine. So they've had to stop that. They

1005
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:01.760
<v Speaker 4>can't offer any more you know, awards on that. I mean,

1006
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 4>it's just on and on. But the other side of

1007
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:08.079
<v Speaker 4>it is the university itself. We already have a legislature

1008
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 4>and a board of regents who are telling us to

1009
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:14.719
<v Speaker 4>back off on DEI. But so much money comes into

1010
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:18.320
<v Speaker 4>the university and those kinds of grants, and the university

1011
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:21.599
<v Speaker 4>takes fifty three percent off the top. My university is

1012
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:25.840
<v Speaker 4>already in the hole, seriously in financial trouble. You can

1013
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 4>imagine the panic going on. So I'm having a bit

1014
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.320
<v Speaker 4>of shot and for it about that one, because my

1015
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:33.119
<v Speaker 4>college makes money hand over flood, but they still communyway.

1016
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 2>That's I'm used to hearing universities taking twenty percent off

1017
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 2>of grants.

1018
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:40.920
<v Speaker 4>Maybe the indirect cause are fifty three percent if the

1019
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:42.519
<v Speaker 4>work is done on campus.

1020
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean other universities. I hear the figures twenty

1021
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 2>percent at least some private foundations, and maybe higher for

1022
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:48.760
<v Speaker 2>government money.

1023
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:50.639
<v Speaker 1>But the point is, whatever the figure.

1024
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Is, the point there is a serious cutback in those

1025
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:55.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of funds sluicing around to all these programs.

1026
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:58.639
<v Speaker 1>They're going to have to have massive layoffs of their

1027
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:03.159
<v Speaker 1>administrative bloat. And I'll be the right exactly that's right.

1028
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:06.159
<v Speaker 4>So then the other thing, really quickly is, you know

1029
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:12.159
<v Speaker 4>my other position. I started receiving as if I were, well,

1030
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.079
<v Speaker 4>I guess I am. I am a federal employee, all

1031
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:21.679
<v Speaker 4>of the DoD missives, and you know, here's what usually happens.

1032
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:24.599
<v Speaker 4>You know what my inbox would be filled with today

1033
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:27.079
<v Speaker 4>from not just the university, but from the do D

1034
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:31.360
<v Speaker 4>and all these other groups. Because today's February first. Do

1035
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:35.159
<v Speaker 4>you know what February first is, John, the first day

1036
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:41.079
<v Speaker 4>of Black History Month? Yeah? Really, no more Black History Month,

1037
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:45.760
<v Speaker 4>no more Martin Luther King Day celebrations or pronouncements on

1038
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:49.840
<v Speaker 4>social media. No more Women's Equality Day, which means, thank god,

1039
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.559
<v Speaker 4>I don't have to go give fake speeches for that anymore.

1040
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:58.000
<v Speaker 4>But also this was interesting. No more Holocaust Remembrance days.

1041
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that was well. So first of all,

1042
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean hexap put out.

1043
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I have a statement I actually post on power line.

1044
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.639
<v Speaker 2>No Pacific Islander, heritage, no month, just stop.

1045
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:08.119
<v Speaker 1>It all the way.

1046
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:15.199
<v Speaker 5>What is my month? I had one, because that's when

1047
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:17.039
<v Speaker 5>I'm really going to go over kick some ass on

1048
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 5>the commentary podcast. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna.

1049
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Have like a uniche.

1050
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.519
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna like, I'm gonna like be like Steve Johnny

1051
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:25.960
<v Speaker 5>and I can see what the idea is. What it's

1052
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:27.800
<v Speaker 5>going to be, Mick Ribs. I'm going to toss left

1053
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.199
<v Speaker 5>and right out of my little satchel all around the

1054
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:31.360
<v Speaker 5>commentary offices.

1055
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:35.599
<v Speaker 2>But then, uh, equally fun is President Trump did put

1056
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<v Speaker 2>out a proclamation observing Black hits this month and includes

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<v Speaker 2>this clause American heroes such as Frederick Douglas, Harriet Tubman,

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas Soul, no Justice, Clarence Thomas. Right, so, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think last time I checked, Clarence Thomas is not

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned at all at the National Museum of African American History,

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<v Speaker 2>which okay, But did.

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<v Speaker 4>You see my good story of the day yesterday? Abram Kendy,

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<v Speaker 4>the Button Professor, completely shut down, shut down operations. How

1064
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:14.760
<v Speaker 4>many millions of dollars and with abs were funneled into

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00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.559
<v Speaker 4>his operation there with absolutely nothing to show for it.

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<v Speaker 4>He closed his doors, fired everybody, and went to Howard University.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I know that he'll come out on top.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no problems there. But still it was a good story.

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we wrap, we need to go to another

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<v Speaker 2>break for our sponsors, and then we'll come back. Get

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<v Speaker 2>your babbyl on bees queued up Lucretia, and I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a new close for us, and we'll be right back,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, give us the best of the bee Lucretia.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. Even though they said last week that they

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<v Speaker 4>were going to shut down because there wouldn't be anything

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00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.039
<v Speaker 4>funny to talk about, because everything would be perfect. But

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<v Speaker 4>the Democrats proved that that wasn't the case because we

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<v Speaker 4>had the hearings, and you know that was actually posted

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<v Speaker 4>on ex John that I really appreciated all the people

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<v Speaker 4>who were watching and reporting on those hearings because I

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00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:11.760
<v Speaker 4>could only stand about five seconds of it before I

1084
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:16.079
<v Speaker 4>threw my beer at the TV or some equally frustrated action.

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<v Speaker 4>So I appreciated their fortitude and got a lot of

1086
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<v Speaker 4>response on that. But anyway, nominee, it's a picture of

1087
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Cash Battel, nominee for top criminal justice position, interviewed by

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00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 4>nation's top criminals.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was good.

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<v Speaker 4>Or the picture of Cash Battel and Telsy Gabbard Democrat

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<v Speaker 4>senators opposed diversity for one day only. You know if

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<v Speaker 4>I like that Babylon b writers get nothing done? Is

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00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Telsy Gabbard is on TV?

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00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah she didn't look spectacular.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to say, yeah, very very pretty. There's no

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<v Speaker 4>way around it. Preliminary report confirms tragedy was the fault

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<v Speaker 4>of whichever political party you like. Poor Trumpy did have

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of tragedy this week, now, didn't he. I'll

1099
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 4>set up a little bit. Let me do this in first,

1100
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<v Speaker 4>entire federal workforce replayed by one replaced excuse me by

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<v Speaker 4>one sixteen year old Chick fil A employee.

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<v Speaker 5>Boy.

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<v Speaker 4>The metldown on that has been so spectacular, I can't

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<v Speaker 4>even And finally, uh local Karen being a real margaret.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good John, have you.

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<v Speaker 5>Altered your responsibilities? Yeah, you guys have to give me

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00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:40.280
<v Speaker 5>the new tagline whenever we figure out what it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've got one. I mean you can still do

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<v Speaker 1>always do your whisky meat. That's perpetual. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go straight to my clothes, but I.

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<v Speaker 5>Always drink your whiskey meat and Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so a quick context, and I won't do it

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. But remember, for two three years after

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a tagline, don't forget to milk the soft

1117
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Power dividend, and that was mocking Samantha Power for her

1118
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<v Speaker 2>disappointment to Hillary Clinton didn't win, because she told the

1119
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<v Speaker 2>New York Times, having all these women diplomats to her

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<v Speaker 2>apartment in New York, I was looking forward to milking

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00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:13.559
<v Speaker 2>the soft Power dividend. And I thought it was such

1122
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.280
<v Speaker 2>a ridiculous phrase. But now we have a new one,

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<v Speaker 2>courtesy of JB. Advance, and I think this one should

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<v Speaker 2>be the model for everyone for quite a while to

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<v Speaker 2>come here.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's frankly martyret I don't really care all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye everybody, Bye guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Next week.

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<v Speaker 5>Bye.

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<v Speaker 7>This is in poetry. It's meandering sophistry, and you must

1131
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<v Speaker 7>hate words. All of the youth degree is soothe in

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<v Speaker 7>your wandering and chasing these turns.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no.

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<v Speaker 5>Peace warning, that's only a story you tell.

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<v Speaker 3>Two scared kids now that nothing is growing, it's darker

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<v Speaker 3>and lowing.

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<v Speaker 7>Just too asso, our bitch, And just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>No hour is fine, just saying no hour is.

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<v Speaker 3>Fine, But no one wants say.

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<v Speaker 7>No hour is.

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01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Fine, so we both know.

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01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:29.880
<v Speaker 2>No hours is fine.

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01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:31.679
<v Speaker 5>Never do tie.

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<v Speaker 3>And kids are statistics and affair for the ages. I

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01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:43.639
<v Speaker 3>assume they'll be fine. And if numbers are destiny and

1146
01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:44.559
<v Speaker 3>history is.

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<v Speaker 4>Dead to ricochet.

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<v Speaker 1>Join the conversation.